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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knocks, and myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six and nine am Eastern or three am the six and Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe show over at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the I Heart Radio app by searching f s R. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. So there's a game in the NFL this weekend and something about it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense to me, which could spell bad news for one Super Bowl contender. We'll get into all of that here coming up, and just a couple of moments from now, it's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here, it's LaVar Arrington, it's Brady Quinn, It's Jonas Knox. You here on fs are you can hang out with us as always on the I Heart Radio app. You can find us on hundreds of Fox Sports Radio affiliates and wherever you are, making us up part of your Friday. It's a football Friday and We will take you all the way out until nine am Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific right here on Fox Sports Trabels forgot Yeah football in high school. By the way, do you think is it official that Matt Ryan's got turf toe? Because I think I called that the second it half turf toe. Well, listen, I've had turf toe. Yeah, I mean it's true. I mean, so if you guys, like I used to like a good turf toe, it's not fun. It hurts. I still have problems with it. It hurts. Didn't doesn't Dione have Like? Isn't that why you're such a comeback? You what a dirt bag leotay dirt bag. I didn't you that that that that uh that buzzed right over my head. You were talking about you were talking about prompt talking about I was I was talking about, you know, Matt Ryan's turf toe the second he went down. I call that, I said on the text message, it's turf towel, you know. But again, you know, yeah, just Dr Knox over here just diagnosing this stuff. So you guys need to Yeah, if you guys need me to help with any of that stuff, let me know. I played the game now it works all right? Um So let me ask you that because little bar you said that the Green Bay Packers, if you were to re pick your Super Bowl contender coming out of the NFC, that the Green Bay Packers will be a correct the top on the list. Right now, Okay, how the hell are the Green Bay Packers only like a one point favorite at Minnesota this weekend? Because it's a divisional rival? It's a divisional opponent, not quite as big a rival as Chicago, but it's a big rival, a rival route between the two, the ways, the familiarity, I get it. But do we really think that Aaron Rodgers and the offense is going to struggle like they did last week this week? I know he's dealing with whatever. His soda has a pretty pretty decent defense. I mean, they've got some studs on that team. It's it's just one of those things where I think it's a safer than sorry approach. But I'm just being honest. The way they're playing right now, they're they're imbalance, like they have balanced and the only team that I should I saw a show balance like that. Um well, no one really. I mean maybe Arizona maybe, Arizona UM, but I don't know where Kyler is with with his health. Without Kyler, they're not the same team. So when I look at where we're at right now, and as it applies to Green Bay, they might be the most balanced team UM in the NFL. And and when you're looking at this this matchup, you know, I don't know why they made it such a small I don't even know that you called out a spread, um, but right it's like you gave that's a point. You gave the point. So so the idea, but to me is is that you know, they just think that it's going to be a hard fight game. But Green Bay is playing at a different level. Aaron Rodgers, even when he doesn't play well, you know, they they looked at his stats, you know, the last one he got. You know, the stats weren't what they should have been for Aaron Rodgers, he still impacts the game in a way where even if his stat line isn't crazy, there's something that he had to do with in that game and game plan that made it work the way that it did. And that's what I really like and enjoy about this Green Bay Packers team right now. It may just be Aaron Jones. You know, maybe maybe no. Aaron Jones closest thing to Roger Craig that I've seen in the Running back. If you've never seen Roger Craig this film, no one has the knee drive that Roger Craig had. Um. There are a few that have been nice. Eric Metcalf had real, real nice gate, real nice drive. But Aaron Aaron Jones has a similar running style, similar game to Roger Craig, and I love it. I love watching him play. Like I don't know why more kids don't have higher knee drives when they run. And he's out because he's dealing with the the knee issue. But I just I don't. To me, I look at last week and to go, well, you know, Rogers, they looked a little bit rusty. They looked a little bit you know, out of swords. But they'll be able to figure that's the point. But just Bruiser back there too. Yeah, I just I to me, this seems like Green Bay should roll. But again, there's like a couple of these every single year. And Brady and I've talked about this where you see a point spread come out and it goes that just doesn't make any sense. And then somebody knows something. Maybe it is division, maybe maybe that's where we're at. But to me, I just look at this and I just assume Green Bay is going to get back on track if they're all that in the NFC, that's my thought. Yeah, I mean, look, normal circumstances, the home team gets three points, right, So what the lines telling you is obviously the betting markets view Green Bay as the better of the two teams. That Jones not being their hurts uh, Dalvin Cooks still playing for the Viking helps as if we've touched on that. I'm still waiting for something to come out about that. But look, k Cousins had a good year, like he always seems to put together these years were He's got eighteen touchdown past the two interceptions completely over six passes, like ho hum, just another year. And and oh, by the way, justin Jefferson maybe a top five wide receiving the league. That dude is unstoppable. So like, I think both these teams will have their their big plays. I think last week, you know, how Aaron looked was a product of probably rust you know, coming back in there and credit Seattle to I mean, Seattle played him tough. So I just I think the question really comes to me or this game is gonna come down to which Minnesota Vikings defense shows up. Like if you look at the first five games of the season versus their last four, I mean, two completely different football teams they were getting back to to start this season. What this defense has typically been under Mike Zimmer with exception of the past a couple of years, you know, better situation in particular on third down coverage has been better, a little pressure has been better at times. There was about a four or five game skick and after they got started that that where they kind of found that group, found that rhythm, and then they've started to kind of drift back, you know, and and Baltimore is different animals that kind of that hurt them. But you know, even last week in a win versus the Chargers, I just I've got some concerns that if they earned Rogers that we know shows up, the Vikings are gonna have a hard time keeping pace. But I think it would be a great game. I think this is gonna be the best game of the weekend. I also wonder how banged up Rogers really is because it does. He's listed as questionable, but the assumption is he's gonna play, But it does. You just want to And you mentioned the Kyler Murray stuff. I mean Kyler Murray I think was probably more banged up than they wanted to lead on to start. Didn't see the way through his helmet down. It was bet went Listen. I'm gonna tell you like this. You're taught at an early age never let your helmet go, never let it go. So when you see somebody like like a quarterback on top of that, with that type of like intensity and they let that helmet go like that, they are in serious pain. That's serious pain. So to me, that's you know, I knew right away it was. It wasn't good. And and and another reason why I knew it wasn't good is when you got a game as big as that on the line and you can't you don't have enough adrenaline to overcome the pain that you have going on. And it is visibly showing the way that it showed on him in that game. Once that once that adrenaline goes away, once that settled it, hey Brady, tell them about it the next day. The next day, you don't even realize that how like, how was I even out there? When you get that type of an injury, it's, uh, it's weird, man. I mean like the adrenaline that runs through your body when you mentally prepare for an NFL game and then how you feel the next day as like a civilian's completely different things, which, by the way, we were I was addressed on the civilian thing and and listen, yeah, I'm a military, I'm a military kid. I grew up military. I'm I'm from three generations of military. So when when you try to when you try to military thump it really it really is is It's not like it falls on like deaf deaf airs with me. You gotta understand something. A civilian is somebody who is normal to uh, the people around him, like everyday living. So when you say civilian, you actually are you When you leave a certain culture, no matter what it is, if you're in law enforcement, if you were, if you do anything that takes you away from the normal every day what's going on in regular society and culture, you are not a regular civilian. Just I just thought I cleared that up. Somebody somebody got on you because you said civilian on the air, and and and you know, the one thing is it's one. It's one thing. It's like when you get it's like when you thump, Like I was in the military, Like I get that, Like I get that. Like if there are two dudes that would respect the sanctity and and the I reverenced the importance of what our arm forces and military represents. There's two of us on here that have like like my father lost his legs in Vietnam, Like he has no feet, right, so we'll be joking around. I have no legs, right, Like my dad really has no legs because he they were in an ambush in Vietnam. Like my dad was in live live action, Like he saw some of his best friends die right in front of him. Like like I'm we're joking around and talking and smoking cigarettes. In the next moment, you know, he's he's no longer with us. So like, you know, I just thought i'd put that out there. Don't don't you know, don't take take some of the things we say out of out of context. We are civilians because we were football players and and now we're civilians, Like you know, it is what it is. People are too sensitive. You guys can you guys can call me whatever you want, call me a slappy hole, but you call me whatever you want. I mean, you basically do every day. Figured I give a I give a understand because sometimes people you know it, I mean, and it says, Look, by definition, by definition, if you're not in an armed service or police force, then you're considered to be a civilian. But just because the literal term is the literal term, doesn't mean that it doesn't apply to other aspects of life. So like, just kind of relax. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying relax a little bit, you know, because that's the son of Chopper, And I'm the son of Michael Team. And Michael T is a bad man, bro. And if my daddy say I could say I'm a civilian now, then I'm gonna say I'm a civilian. Well, what does Michael T and Chopper think about the Packers MNUS one and a half, Because I think that Michael, you want to take the Packers uh winning the game? One? About this one? Really, I'm saying, I'm really strange every time I've said this about a NFL game. Look, Atlanta and Dallas last week. I was like, man, it was that night and a half. That's a big line for the way Dallas played versus Denver and what happened. They took out forty three to three on wasn't even close. And there's always lines like New Orleans last week. Yeah, that was what I was like, all Right, I'll take the Saints like they'll they'll cover this because I don't understand why with Trevor Simeon, the Titans shouldn't just roll those kids. But that was what we were like, what happens with the Pittsburgh Lions game? How does that work? We'll bet on that one? How does that work? Well, there's there's quite is about Roethlisberger, whether or not he's going to be cleared from COVID. What I'm saying last week's game, when when the game ends in a time that well, if you if you bet the point spread, yeah, if you've met the point, if you bet on the money line, which is for one team to win, it's just a push. You get your money back. But if you've got the point spread, yeah you've lost terrible. But listen, uh, you know, it's just you know, some sports gambling here nothing like it. It's always always trying to learn. It doesn't I'm trying to learn as well too. I learned stuff from you guys every day. It's how it works. We learned together. And because we are a great show and we do this all the time, we're like Matt Campbell's Iowa State Cyclones together, the most together team in the country. We don't need to have to win when it all we need to be together. Yeah, we just need to stick together. By the way, up in the morning, you know, get out and get the work that's right, just for work. You know. The layers of ball busting on this show are at an all time high right now. All right, we are brought to you by Discover. Real credit card questions require real people, someone who understands your issues and works to resolve them with you. That's why I Discover offers helpful US based representatives available seven Discover exceptionally common sense. All right. Coming up next, we're gonna go live to the place of Big noon kickoff in Norman, Oklahoma with Joel Klatt, Fox Sports college football analyst. He's gonna have a lot to say about the comments from Matt Campbell. Also some interesting moves happening around the world of college football as well. All of that next here It's for you right here on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am Eastern, three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio coming up later on the hour, about twenty minutes from now, we're gonna have this week's edition of Over Unders as we take a special look ahead to the NFL this weekend. That twenty minutes from now, right now, though, always kind enough to join us here bright and early on a Friday. It is Joel Klatt, Fox Sports College Football Analyst. He will be on the call in Norman, number thirteen, Oklahoma hosting Iowa State. That is again the new and eastern time kickoff on Fox. Joel, what's happening, how's your Friday? Good morning? What's going on? Um morning? Just getting ready for this game? And of course there's the rumors out there about Lincoln Riley and l s U and some sort of an offer that was made potentially, Joel, if you were Lincoln Riley or you were advising Lincoln Riley, would you tell him to stay at Oklahoma or to maybe kick the tires on an l s U deal. I would stay at Oklahoma, But you know, I there there are some that, let's face it, I think you L s US job more so than I do. I don't think I think they're both great jobs. But the first the first element about Oklahoma is that there's there's a loyalty at Oklahoma that maybe there isn't quite at l s U. You can be at at at o U and have a down year here and they're not not many. I'm not saying that you can, you know, be David Shaw Stanford, but you can have a down year here and there. Stoops was eight and four and five a couple of times and it's okay, you know, and and and they'll stick with you. He didn't win a national championship every three years, and and he was still okay, and that that's gonna be afforded Lincoln Riley, and they're not going to run him out of town because he didn't win a national championship. Whereat l s U. You know, everyone says, no, it's a great job. They've got resources and recruiting base, and that's absolutely true. They've got passionate fans, they've got history, they've got everything that you would want. But they've also got an impatience that I don't know if it would be attractive if if I was Lincoln Riley, I can make the same if not, you know, equal money at Oklahoma. And everyone says, the last three coaches have won national championships for the Tigers. That's an amazing stat it makes it makes it a great destination. And all three of those guys have gotten fired basically, and you know it's or at least the last. The last two then run out of town. So from my seat, I think that the impatience at l s U makes Oklahoma an easier place to stay if you're Lincoln Riley. He still relies on Bob as as a mentor. I think that he understands the the immense break that he got coming from Carolina. You know, I mean, he's basically a position coach at Texas. Deck Reverend McNeil takes him to East Carolina. Um Bob stoops hires him, and now all of a sudden he's the head coach of the University of Oklahoma and his mid thirties and and he's making you know, he can make nine figures here. I think he should stay. It was a long dissertation because I think it's a it's a tough question. But at the same time, I just think that that Oklahoma is a is a spot that you can stay for for a longer period of time. It was a great question and one that we should also acknowledge the fact that you're in Norman, Oklahoma. So even if you worse to say that Lincoln Riley should go to l s U, we probably want to wait till leaked out right. It's fair. It's fair that maybe, like maybe I don't think I would. You know that I'm pretty stubborn, but tomorrow at like five PM, I might have a different Well, so so let me just follow up on that question, because you gave us some great stuff. One of the things that was reported not only from that fact that l s US making this offer potentially to Lincoln Riley that's competitive. Let's just say with maybe mil Tuckers, was that Oklahoma is not going to match it. And I can understand where they're coming from right, because with Lincoln Riley, you're gonna deal with us every single year, like literally every single year, you're gonna get a college top program or NFL top program that comes out and says, we want to sign Lincoln Riley to be become our next head coach. So you don't want to have to deal with this time and time and time again. I guess how much do you think money will play a factor at some point in his head? And then also the eventual move to the SEC anyway, and and I guess and looking into the future if you can like, yeah, they've been great being able to win conference championships, but once they go into the SEC, I think we all would agree. I wouldn't put them as a top four team right now in the SEC the way that their teams look. We'll only have one loss. So how much of it do you think, well, money will factor in and how much of it do you think they'll have to look into the future and say, what ultimately gives me the best shot to be a successful head coach? Is that l s U or would it be Oklahoma standput? Yeah, I mean that's that's a terrific question. I mean, to be honest, I I don't know how Oklahoma is going to do in the SEC. To your point, um, now, you can look at their record against the SEC over the course of the last you know, five, six, seven years, and it's pretty good. Uh, And you could say that you know they'd likely do well. And I think that they will do well. But they've hung their hat on the fact that they've been big twelve champions now for the basically the last twenty years, and it's been now for what twenty one years since they actually have won a national championship. And and as as we're talking about earlier at l s U, it's it's not just about saying, hey, we can win the SEC. You better be national championship caliber if you're going to win the SEC. That's that's the bottom line. So I think that Oklahoma is gonna be really competitive there, I really do. And I don't know exactly how their schedules are gonna work. I've heard that it's gonna be Pod Systems and they'll be set up in a pod that I feel like would be advantageous for them to win. And then it just matters about the crossover games because it's not like they're gonna just sit there and play an SEC West schedule because it's gonna be broken up a little bit different than that. UM. But having having said that, you know, oh, use identity now for twenty years has been we run the Big twelve. I don't think that they're going to have the same identity like we run the SEC. They're not gonna run the SEC. That's just not not the case. Having said that, I think you're going in at probably a decent time because I don't think Nick Saban's gonna coach for ten more years, you know, so you're probably gonna get Nick Saban in his last few years rather than in the in the meat of this twelve year run that's been the most successful run in the history of college football for any program that we've ever seen. Joe, I'm I'm so deep into this n I L thing and the development of it and everything that that is taking place. It is, in my opinion, a wave of mass proportions. And and the reason why I bring that up and my preface to the question is looking at what we've just seen, UM with Oregon and Phil Knight and them creating this company that helps with n I L and helps with the taxes and making it seamless. You mentioned nine figures for for UH for the coaching job, and and and and just to listen to nine figures, Like how big of a play is that n I. How much does this play into these contracts that are going to be offered, because now you would have to assume that these donors that you know, the chains are off, like the the gate is open. Whatever it is that you can do to create a winning team, you now have the ability to be able to legally do it and entice the top players to go to schools that at maybe some point in time they might have not even looked at that school. Well, you bring up an interesting point. I don't think. I think that we have just seen the tip of the iceberg as far as the creativeness and I use air quotations creativeness that we're seeing from from schools, boosters, you know, entities surrounding programs, and how N I L will be used to make that destination more attractive. I just I don't know exactly what it's gonna look like, LaVar. I wish that I did. I've been such a purist my my whole life, Like I just loved to play the game, I was a walk on, you know it. It's like I just love to run out behind Ralphie. Even when I was playing, you know, I thought it was amazing we run out and get the A E A Sports game, we get nt A football because like we were on it, and I didn't have that sense that I was being taken advantage of necessarily until maybe right at the end. But that's that's clearly changing in this day and age. And I'm and I'm only saying that because I just have never really thought of it through this lens of the N I L. I think that we're headed down a path in which major boosters are not going to be in a facilities race, because now everybody has their their multimillion dollar facilities. We're gonna be in an N I L race in terms of who can be the most creative and create the biggest pot of money for everybody on the team, and how is it going to be distributed? Distributed? I'm not sure what that looks like, but I think that that's certainly it's kind of the way that it's going, and it's going to basically be the exact same arms race that we've had for the last fifteen years, because it's not going to be about building barber shops and you know things like that in your facility with slides and look at all the bells and whistles. It's going to be what is your n I L nity? What can it do for me? And how much money can I make in the next two or three years. You can get him on Twitter at Joel Claudy as Joel clad Fox Sports College football Analysts, joining us here on Fox Sports Rading. He'll be on the call for Oklahoma and Iowa State tomorrow new and Eastern time on Fox. Um Brady made mention of this the Mel Tucker deal. How surprised were you buy either the length or the terms reported for the Michigan State head coach. Well, I think l s U was was very much, you know, going to come after Mel and and probably actively was to some extent, and so they needed to pay him that because that is what he was going to be offered from an l s U. This is what l s U was gonna go after. They're gonna take the biggest swing that they possibly can. If you're looking at the contracts that are around the top end of college football, that's what it is, Jim both Fisher nine million bucks. You know, Nick is right up there, you know, I think nine and a half and and going north of ten here in the next couple of years with his escalators. So that's what ELSU was gonna offer. So, you know, everyone was shocked about that amount in that length, but that's basically what what the top end of college football is going to be, which is what they had to compete with if they wanted to keep him there. You know, let's just put it this way. Michigan States not the type of place that you would take less money to stay at, like maybe you would at Oklahoma if you were Lincoln rightly, So they were going to have to come up to the level that l s U was talking and that's about what it was. So the ten years is actually something that I was I was in my head thinking to myself, what's l s you canna offer? And I thought to myself, they're probably in the neighborhood of nine, nine and a half ten million a year, So you know, ten ten for a hundred could for anybody that John deal Man get that money. Hey, class, I want to ask you, just because obviously you're a Norman. I'll be there shortly for Oklahoma Iowa State, but Big twelve, and as we look at the bigger picture in college football, as we head towards the College Football Playoff, I kind of pose this question last week on our show, and I'm curious to get your thoughts on it. A one lost Big twelve champ versus let's just say, a one lost Pack twelve an undefeated Cincinnati. I think I know what direction you're you're gonna go. But keep this in mind, We've never had a team make it in the top four the College Football Playoff that wasn't within the top seven this late in the college football rankings. So that being said, does a Big twelve champ have a chance with only one loss. Yes, they've got they've got a chance, But I think some dominoes have to fall their way. Let me just paint this scenario, and I hope I don't get to like too much into the weeds now. The first the first thing that I would say is, I don't believe that we've ever had three teams from one conference within the top seven at this point in any year prior. I believe that that's the case, I would have to go back and and like really dig into it. But because the Big Ten has taken up so many of those spots, if you're gonna have a year in which somewhere from someone from outside of the top seven at this point in the year were to get into the top four, it could be this one being is as that those three teams are going to play themselves out, So two of those are gonna be gone. So let's just paint this scenario. You've got four spots. Let's just say sake of argument, that we stick with what Vegas would predict. So Georgia wins out and let's just say Ohio State or give it to a one lost Big ten chance, those are two spots. Okay, we know that those are gonna go down at least two more. I believe that if Oregon wins out, they're gonna be in for sure, and if Cincinnati wins out, they're likely going to be in. Those would be the other two regardless of what happened in the Big twelve, they would be left out. So I think that the Big twelve champ, even with one loss, even if both oh You were to run the table or Oklahoma State were to want run the table. I believe that they need either Oregon or Cincinnati or both to lose. If you give Oregon a loss to Utah and one of the matchups with UTAHF you give SIMP Cincinnati a loss, then all of a sudden, what you see is that the Big twelve Champ with one loss is going to be pitted up against. There would be two basically two spots for three teams. It would be, let's just stake of argument. It would be like a one loss wake Forest, a one loss Notre Dame, a one loss Cincinnati, and a one loss Big twelve Champ. So there there's your people competing for that spot. I think that a one lost Big twelve Champ. And I hate to say that this way started. I'm sorry very but just based on resume, probably would go ahead of Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not if you held Cincinnati, how you can't put Notre Dame in over him, you know, correct? Correct? So like Cincinnati would be to Notre Dame at that point. So then so yes, I think it's plausible that even Oklahoma at thirteen has a legitimate although not not totally you know, um, I don't know what the word I'm looking for here is not totally likely, but plausible road to the college football playoff. It is Get him on Twitter at Joel Clasp Joel Clad. Fox Sports college football analysts will be on the call. How about Joel and LaVar sharing their play by play this week? Man? How about that? How about that? Yeah a LaVar? Yeah, let me just tell you real quick between us, because now that we've you know, I'm sure we've hit the break, so no one's listening. I'm sure. Let me just tell you what Gus told me one of the first times I've ever worked with them. So just to set you up for Sunday, Okay, he says, He says, I know you played baseball, so here's a quick analogy. You can hit the singles, I hit the home run. That's perfect. I was told, I was told a pack of wolves, and just know that you're in the pack. He is alpha. Best friends that anybody ever had. Best friends. Well, they're sharing Gus Johnson in the play by play with this weekend. Uh it is LaVar and Joe Clap. But Joe, we appreciate a man. Let's do it again next week. We'll be watching and listening tomorrow. Next Joe. You gotta there. He is Joe Clad, Fox Sports College Football Analyst with us here on fs ARE. It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. All right. Coming up next, we're gonna have another edition of Over Under is a special look ahead to the NFL. A busy weekend in the NFL. It's yours right here on fs ARE. 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It's Friday morning, and we feel all right, it's a football parties here on a football Friday. So I reach for my forty and I'm going to turn it up soon as we're down with this Keys to these trucks. Yeah, okay, I believe it, alright. List that kind of corny, Hey, but you get Friday that you got that in there. Yeah, I did get football Friday and there. Yeah, and I drink thirty ounces. I don't drink forties. Forties is old school. Yeah, I'm new school, So I drink thirties. Yeah, that's MODELO. I don't know about thirty ounces. Model Yeah. The twenty twos they call him Bombers. You get the twenty twos and MODELO. Brady is not much of a beer drinker, though. I have Aydelo sitting at my house right now. Don't Yeah, don't remember Zema's remember those? Yeah, Brady's got that this fridge too. Those are like the Foo food that was like a Mike's hard lemonade for Jonas had his first sip of alcohol. Man, the first time I've had a smearing off ice. I could feel the enamel on my teeth. Do you remember the first drink you've ever had? I remember my first moment with alcohol. Yeah, I do tell me. Miller Lite. My dad gave us a Miller Lite. We were playing a pickup basketball game, was my brother and I versus my two sisters. And afterwards he gave us and made us. I had to take a sip of his Miller Lite. It was awful. Mickey's Bird Yeah, Mickey's do you remember what Mickey's Happy Birthday? Roberto, Wait until the Kinciana Mickey's straight out of the games. Those aren't even real alcoholic Mickey's what about you? Do you remember Bud Budweiser? Dad? My dad gave me a sip of his Bud and I was like, I don't like this. I was, I was, I was pretty I want to say, I was like probably like nine or ten. But I remember being like, yeah, I don't I don't get why you got yeah not into it? Yeah, um yeah, yeah, I think it's night. That was the set up. This was the long set up. That was amazing, amazing good. I think it was a Mike's Hard lemonade, And of course I liked it because it tasted like lemonade. Yeah, and then it all started. Yeah if my brother was in college and he came home from college and that was this big time football star and he was like, you know what's going on, man, things are going well for you. He's playing basketball at Slippery or Edinburgh. He's at Edinburgh. We can't walking down the hallway. I can't walking down the hallway. He's like, come here, and I walked in. He's like, take a sip of this. He gave me a sip of peach snop. Now here's the thing. I didn't take a sip. I drank it. Oh and I threw up on the floor. Man, all on the floor. And that was my first experience with alcohol. Man when Jonas, you never said yours Jonas, Yeah, I did Miller white man. My dad, my dad would give me some white. Yeah. That was the first one I ever had. Parents didn't drink, you know, they were in the church. Yeah. My dad wasn't a big drinker either, but he liked mill light from time to time. Um, you know we like to do from time to Yes, Yes, it's this, Yeah, defeat your degenerate gambling soul, the problem bet monster. Wait, we're this is over unders and not the profet monster. We're doing over unders here on Fox Sports Radio. Listen, LA got everybody drunk and so here we are. What are the where where we stand this week on the O. So this it was a little bit of a blood bath last week, you guys, Jonas and Lavarre, you split it with four winds, apiecey Brady, anything right? Yeah? Alright? Did you even count the DeShawn Jackson long reception? I mean he he fumbled on that one. Technically it is a reception. It's just you know, it's a reception. Yeah, it's reception. It was yard. So we hit the overall, the only one I got and it was so close to too. This week, you guys are gonna look at the highest point total for the week, That of course is the Cowboys at the Chiefs. It is. It's fifty six and a half. Oh man, I will say, I want to say the under I'm going over. The Chiefs are back, baby, Kansas City's back. I'm gonna take the over all. Right, you guys, Washington at the Panthers, Cam New there's back combined rushing and passing touchdowns one and a half. Oh, I got the over. Yeah, I'll take the under combined rushing touchdowns. I'm gonna take the over. Yeah, just do it. Let's do it, Okay, separation, alright, go ahead, all right. Rogers went over last week and he's got no Aaron Jones passing touchdowns for Aaron Rodgers two and a half against the over. Over over, Yeah, I got that in firstly, all right, Joe Flacco is back. Number of interceptions against the Dolphins at a half. That's negative. Jesus um take the over. The Dolphins have some turnovers lately. I'm gonna see the over too. I think there's gonna be something coming out of his hand because of that. Yeah, just because that will take appropriate someone's coming out of his hand. He can be inappropriate about a toenail, like, how does this work? We're all gonna be and the Lions at the Browns. Number of layers LaVar LaVar is wearing during the broadcast three and a half. LaVar. Go ahead, you guys go first. I'm saying I think you were three. I'll take the over He's gonna go long John's uh collared shirt, suit jacket and then a warm coat over that. I'm gonna say I'm gonna go with two layers. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knocks, and myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six and nine am Eastern or three am the six and Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe show over at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the I Heart Radio app by searching f s R. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. So there's a game in the NFL this weekend and something about it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense to me, which could spell bad news for one Super Bowl contender. We'll get into all of that here coming up, and just a couple of moments from now, it's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here, it's LaVar Arrington, it's Brady Quinn, It's Jonas Knox. You here on fs are you can hang out with us as always on the I Heart Radio app. You can find us on hundreds of Fox Sports Radio affiliates and wherever you are, making us up part of your Friday. It's a football Friday and We will take you all the way out until nine am Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific right here on Fox Sports Trabels forgot Yeah football in high school. By the way, do you think is it official that Matt Ryan's got turf toe? Because I think I called that the second it half turf toe. Well, listen, I've had turf toe. Yeah, I mean it's true. I mean, so if you guys, like I used to like a good turf toe, it's not fun. It hurts. I still have problems with it. It hurts. Didn't doesn't Dione have Like? Isn't that why you're such a comeback? You what a dirt bag leotay dirt bag. I didn't you that that that that uh that buzzed right over my head. You were talking about you were talking about prompt talking about I was I was talking about, you know, Matt Ryan's turf toe the second he went down. I call that, I said on the text message, it's turf towel, you know. But again, you know, yeah, just Dr Knox over here just diagnosing this stuff. So you guys need to Yeah, if you guys need me to help with any of that stuff, let me know. I played the game now it works all right? Um So let me ask you that because little bar you said that the Green Bay Packers, if you were to re pick your Super Bowl contender coming out of the NFC, that the Green Bay Packers will be a correct the top on the list. Right now, Okay, how the hell are the Green Bay Packers only like a one point favorite at Minnesota this weekend? Because it's a divisional rival? It's a divisional opponent, not quite as big a rival as Chicago, but it's a big rival, a rival route between the two, the ways, the familiarity, I get it. But do we really think that Aaron Rodgers and the offense is going to struggle like they did last week this week? I know he's dealing with whatever. His soda has a pretty pretty decent defense. I mean, they've got some studs on that team. It's it's just one of those things where I think it's a safer than sorry approach. But I'm just being honest. The way they're playing right now, they're they're imbalance, like they have balanced and the only team that I should I saw a show balance like that. Um well, no one really. I mean maybe Arizona maybe, Arizona UM, but I don't know where Kyler is with with his health. Without Kyler, they're not the same team. So when I look at where we're at right now, and as it applies to Green Bay, they might be the most balanced team UM in the NFL. And and when you're looking at this this matchup, you know, I don't know why they made it such a small I don't even know that you called out a spread, um, but right it's like you gave that's a point. You gave the point. So so the idea, but to me is is that you know, they just think that it's going to be a hard fight game. But Green Bay is playing at a different level. Aaron Rodgers, even when he doesn't play well, you know, they they looked at his stats, you know, the last one he got. You know, the stats weren't what they should have been for Aaron Rodgers, he still impacts the game in a way where even if his stat line isn't crazy, there's something that he had to do with in that game and game plan that made it work the way that it did. And that's what I really like and enjoy about this Green Bay Packers team right now. It may just be Aaron Jones. You know, maybe maybe no. Aaron Jones closest thing to Roger Craig that I've seen in the Running back. If you've never seen Roger Craig this film, no one has the knee drive that Roger Craig had. Um. There are a few that have been nice. Eric Metcalf had real, real nice gate, real nice drive. But Aaron Aaron Jones has a similar running style, similar game to Roger Craig, and I love it. I love watching him play. Like I don't know why more kids don't have higher knee drives when they run. And he's out because he's dealing with the the knee issue. But I just I don't. To me, I look at last week and to go, well, you know, Rogers, they looked a little bit rusty. They looked a little bit you know, out of swords. But they'll be able to figure that's the point. But just Bruiser back there too. Yeah, I just I to me, this seems like Green Bay should roll. But again, there's like a couple of these every single year. And Brady and I've talked about this where you see a point spread come out and it goes that just doesn't make any sense. And then somebody knows something. Maybe it is division, maybe maybe that's where we're at. But to me, I just look at this and I just assume Green Bay is going to get back on track if they're all that in the NFC, that's my thought. Yeah, I mean, look, normal circumstances, the home team gets three points, right, So what the lines telling you is obviously the betting markets view Green Bay as the better of the two teams. That Jones not being their hurts uh, Dalvin Cooks still playing for the Viking helps as if we've touched on that. I'm still waiting for something to come out about that. But look, k Cousins had a good year, like he always seems to put together these years were He's got eighteen touchdown past the two interceptions completely over six passes, like ho hum, just another year. And and oh, by the way, justin Jefferson maybe a top five wide receiving the league. That dude is unstoppable. So like, I think both these teams will have their their big plays. I think last week, you know, how Aaron looked was a product of probably rust you know, coming back in there and credit Seattle to I mean, Seattle played him tough. So I just I think the question really comes to me or this game is gonna come down to which Minnesota Vikings defense shows up. Like if you look at the first five games of the season versus their last four, I mean, two completely different football teams they were getting back to to start this season. What this defense has typically been under Mike Zimmer with exception of the past a couple of years, you know, better situation in particular on third down coverage has been better, a little pressure has been better at times. There was about a four or five game skick and after they got started that that where they kind of found that group, found that rhythm, and then they've started to kind of drift back, you know, and and Baltimore is different animals that kind of that hurt them. But you know, even last week in a win versus the Chargers, I just I've got some concerns that if they earned Rogers that we know shows up, the Vikings are gonna have a hard time keeping pace. But I think it would be a great game. I think this is gonna be the best game of the weekend. I also wonder how banged up Rogers really is because it does. He's listed as questionable, but the assumption is he's gonna play, But it does. You just want to And you mentioned the Kyler Murray stuff. I mean Kyler Murray I think was probably more banged up than they wanted to lead on to start. Didn't see the way through his helmet down. It was bet went Listen. I'm gonna tell you like this. You're taught at an early age never let your helmet go, never let it go. So when you see somebody like like a quarterback on top of that, with that type of like intensity and they let that helmet go like that, they are in serious pain. That's serious pain. So to me, that's you know, I knew right away it was. It wasn't good. And and and another reason why I knew it wasn't good is when you got a game as big as that on the line and you can't you don't have enough adrenaline to overcome the pain that you have going on. And it is visibly showing the way that it showed on him in that game. Once that once that adrenaline goes away, once that settled it, hey Brady, tell them about it the next day. The next day, you don't even realize that how like, how was I even out there? When you get that type of an injury, it's, uh, it's weird, man. I mean like the adrenaline that runs through your body when you mentally prepare for an NFL game and then how you feel the next day as like a civilian's completely different things, which, by the way, we were I was addressed on the civilian thing and and listen, yeah, I'm a military, I'm a military kid. I grew up military. I'm I'm from three generations of military. So when when you try to when you try to military thump it really it really is is It's not like it falls on like deaf deaf airs with me. You gotta understand something. A civilian is somebody who is normal to uh, the people around him, like everyday living. So when you say civilian, you actually are you When you leave a certain culture, no matter what it is, if you're in law enforcement, if you were, if you do anything that takes you away from the normal every day what's going on in regular society and culture, you are not a regular civilian. Just I just thought I cleared that up. Somebody somebody got on you because you said civilian on the air, and and and you know, the one thing is it's one. It's one thing. It's like when you get it's like when you thump, Like I was in the military, Like I get that, Like I get that. Like if there are two dudes that would respect the sanctity and and the I reverenced the importance of what our arm forces and military represents. There's two of us on here that have like like my father lost his legs in Vietnam, Like he has no feet, right, so we'll be joking around. I have no legs, right, Like my dad really has no legs because he they were in an ambush in Vietnam. Like my dad was in live live action, Like he saw some of his best friends die right in front of him. Like like I'm we're joking around and talking and smoking cigarettes. In the next moment, you know, he's he's no longer with us. So like, you know, I just thought i'd put that out there. Don't don't you know, don't take take some of the things we say out of out of context. We are civilians because we were football players and and now we're civilians, Like you know, it is what it is. People are too sensitive. You guys can you guys can call me whatever you want, call me a slappy hole, but you call me whatever you want. I mean, you basically do every day. Figured I give a I give a understand because sometimes people you know it, I mean, and it says, Look, by definition, by definition, if you're not in an armed service or police force, then you're considered to be a civilian. But just because the literal term is the literal term, doesn't mean that it doesn't apply to other aspects of life. So like, just kind of relax. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying relax a little bit, you know, because that's the son of Chopper, And I'm the son of Michael Team. And Michael T is a bad man, bro. And if my daddy say I could say I'm a civilian now, then I'm gonna say I'm a civilian. Well, what does Michael T and Chopper think about the Packers MNUS one and a half, Because I think that Michael, you want to take the Packers uh winning the game? One? About this one? Really, I'm saying, I'm really strange every time I've said this about a NFL game. Look, Atlanta and Dallas last week. I was like, man, it was that night and a half. That's a big line for the way Dallas played versus Denver and what happened. They took out forty three to three on wasn't even close. And there's always lines like New Orleans last week. Yeah, that was what I was like, all Right, I'll take the Saints like they'll they'll cover this because I don't understand why with Trevor Simeon, the Titans shouldn't just roll those kids. But that was what we were like, what happens with the Pittsburgh Lions game? How does that work? We'll bet on that one? How does that work? Well, there's there's quite is about Roethlisberger, whether or not he's going to be cleared from COVID. What I'm saying last week's game, when when the game ends in a time that well, if you if you bet the point spread, yeah, if you've met the point, if you bet on the money line, which is for one team to win, it's just a push. You get your money back. But if you've got the point spread, yeah you've lost terrible. But listen, uh, you know, it's just you know, some sports gambling here nothing like it. It's always always trying to learn. It doesn't I'm trying to learn as well too. I learned stuff from you guys every day. It's how it works. We learned together. And because we are a great show and we do this all the time, we're like Matt Campbell's Iowa State Cyclones together, the most together team in the country. We don't need to have to win when it all we need to be together. Yeah, we just need to stick together. By the way, up in the morning, you know, get out and get the work that's right, just for work. You know. The layers of ball busting on this show are at an all time high right now. All right, we are brought to you by Discover. Real credit card questions require real people, someone who understands your issues and works to resolve them with you. That's why I Discover offers helpful US based representatives available seven Discover exceptionally common sense. All right. Coming up next, we're gonna go live to the place of Big noon kickoff in Norman, Oklahoma with Joel Klatt, Fox Sports college football analyst. He's gonna have a lot to say about the comments from Matt Campbell. Also some interesting moves happening around the world of college football as well. All of that next here It's for you right here on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am Eastern, three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio coming up later on the hour, about twenty minutes from now, we're gonna have this week's edition of Over Unders as we take a special look ahead to the NFL this weekend. That twenty minutes from now, right now, though, always kind enough to join us here bright and early on a Friday. It is Joel Klatt, Fox Sports College Football Analyst. He will be on the call in Norman, number thirteen, Oklahoma hosting Iowa State. That is again the new and eastern time kickoff on Fox. Joel, what's happening, how's your Friday? Good morning? What's going on? Um morning? Just getting ready for this game? And of course there's the rumors out there about Lincoln Riley and l s U and some sort of an offer that was made potentially, Joel, if you were Lincoln Riley or you were advising Lincoln Riley, would you tell him to stay at Oklahoma or to maybe kick the tires on an l s U deal. I would stay at Oklahoma, But you know, I there there are some that, let's face it, I think you L s US job more so than I do. I don't think I think they're both great jobs. But the first the first element about Oklahoma is that there's there's a loyalty at Oklahoma that maybe there isn't quite at l s U. You can be at at at o U and have a down year here and they're not not many. I'm not saying that you can, you know, be David Shaw Stanford, but you can have a down year here and there. Stoops was eight and four and five a couple of times and it's okay, you know, and and and they'll stick with you. He didn't win a national championship every three years, and and he was still okay, and that that's gonna be afforded Lincoln Riley, and they're not going to run him out of town because he didn't win a national championship. Whereat l s U. You know, everyone says, no, it's a great job. They've got resources and recruiting base, and that's absolutely true. They've got passionate fans, they've got history, they've got everything that you would want. But they've also got an impatience that I don't know if it would be attractive if if I was Lincoln Riley, I can make the same if not, you know, equal money at Oklahoma. And everyone says, the last three coaches have won national championships for the Tigers. That's an amazing stat it makes it makes it a great destination. And all three of those guys have gotten fired basically, and you know it's or at least the last. The last two then run out of town. So from my seat, I think that the impatience at l s U makes Oklahoma an easier place to stay if you're Lincoln Riley. He still relies on Bob as as a mentor. I think that he understands the the immense break that he got coming from Carolina. You know, I mean, he's basically a position coach at Texas. Deck Reverend McNeil takes him to East Carolina. Um Bob stoops hires him, and now all of a sudden he's the head coach of the University of Oklahoma and his mid thirties and and he's making you know, he can make nine figures here. I think he should stay. It was a long dissertation because I think it's a it's a tough question. But at the same time, I just think that that Oklahoma is a is a spot that you can stay for for a longer period of time. It was a great question and one that we should also acknowledge the fact that you're in Norman, Oklahoma. So even if you worse to say that Lincoln Riley should go to l s U, we probably want to wait till leaked out right. It's fair. It's fair that maybe, like maybe I don't think I would. You know that I'm pretty stubborn, but tomorrow at like five PM, I might have a different Well, so so let me just follow up on that question, because you gave us some great stuff. One of the things that was reported not only from that fact that l s US making this offer potentially to Lincoln Riley that's competitive. Let's just say with maybe mil Tuckers, was that Oklahoma is not going to match it. And I can understand where they're coming from right, because with Lincoln Riley, you're gonna deal with us every single year, like literally every single year, you're gonna get a college top program or NFL top program that comes out and says, we want to sign Lincoln Riley to be become our next head coach. So you don't want to have to deal with this time and time and time again. I guess how much do you think money will play a factor at some point in his head? And then also the eventual move to the SEC anyway, and and I guess and looking into the future if you can like, yeah, they've been great being able to win conference championships, but once they go into the SEC, I think we all would agree. I wouldn't put them as a top four team right now in the SEC the way that their teams look. We'll only have one loss. So how much of it do you think, well, money will factor in and how much of it do you think they'll have to look into the future and say, what ultimately gives me the best shot to be a successful head coach? Is that l s U or would it be Oklahoma standput? Yeah, I mean that's that's a terrific question. I mean, to be honest, I I don't know how Oklahoma is going to do in the SEC. To your point, um, now, you can look at their record against the SEC over the course of the last you know, five, six, seven years, and it's pretty good. Uh, And you could say that you know they'd likely do well. And I think that they will do well. But they've hung their hat on the fact that they've been big twelve champions now for the basically the last twenty years, and it's been now for what twenty one years since they actually have won a national championship. And and as as we're talking about earlier at l s U, it's it's not just about saying, hey, we can win the SEC. You better be national championship caliber if you're going to win the SEC. That's that's the bottom line. So I think that Oklahoma is gonna be really competitive there, I really do. And I don't know exactly how their schedules are gonna work. I've heard that it's gonna be Pod Systems and they'll be set up in a pod that I feel like would be advantageous for them to win. And then it just matters about the crossover games because it's not like they're gonna just sit there and play an SEC West schedule because it's gonna be broken up a little bit different than that. UM. But having having said that, you know, oh, use identity now for twenty years has been we run the Big twelve. I don't think that they're going to have the same identity like we run the SEC. They're not gonna run the SEC. That's just not not the case. Having said that, I think you're going in at probably a decent time because I don't think Nick Saban's gonna coach for ten more years, you know, so you're probably gonna get Nick Saban in his last few years rather than in the in the meat of this twelve year run that's been the most successful run in the history of college football for any program that we've ever seen. Joe, I'm I'm so deep into this n I L thing and the development of it and everything that that is taking place. It is, in my opinion, a wave of mass proportions. And and the reason why I bring that up and my preface to the question is looking at what we've just seen, UM with Oregon and Phil Knight and them creating this company that helps with n I L and helps with the taxes and making it seamless. You mentioned nine figures for for UH for the coaching job, and and and and just to listen to nine figures, Like how big of a play is that n I. How much does this play into these contracts that are going to be offered, because now you would have to assume that these donors that you know, the chains are off, like the the gate is open. Whatever it is that you can do to create a winning team, you now have the ability to be able to legally do it and entice the top players to go to schools that at maybe some point in time they might have not even looked at that school. Well, you bring up an interesting point. I don't think. I think that we have just seen the tip of the iceberg as far as the creativeness and I use air quotations creativeness that we're seeing from from schools, boosters, you know, entities surrounding programs, and how N I L will be used to make that destination more attractive. I just I don't know exactly what it's gonna look like, LaVar. I wish that I did. I've been such a purist my my whole life, Like I just loved to play the game, I was a walk on, you know it. It's like I just love to run out behind Ralphie. Even when I was playing, you know, I thought it was amazing we run out and get the A E A Sports game, we get nt A football because like we were on it, and I didn't have that sense that I was being taken advantage of necessarily until maybe right at the end. But that's that's clearly changing in this day and age. And I'm and I'm only saying that because I just have never really thought of it through this lens of the N I L. I think that we're headed down a path in which major boosters are not going to be in a facilities race, because now everybody has their their multimillion dollar facilities. We're gonna be in an N I L race in terms of who can be the most creative and create the biggest pot of money for everybody on the team, and how is it going to be distributed? Distributed? I'm not sure what that looks like, but I think that that's certainly it's kind of the way that it's going, and it's going to basically be the exact same arms race that we've had for the last fifteen years, because it's not going to be about building barber shops and you know things like that in your facility with slides and look at all the bells and whistles. It's going to be what is your n I L nity? What can it do for me? And how much money can I make in the next two or three years. You can get him on Twitter at Joel Claudy as Joel clad Fox Sports College football Analysts, joining us here on Fox Sports Rading. He'll be on the call for Oklahoma and Iowa State tomorrow new and Eastern time on Fox. Um Brady made mention of this the Mel Tucker deal. How surprised were you buy either the length or the terms reported for the Michigan State head coach. Well, I think l s U was was very much, you know, going to come after Mel and and probably actively was to some extent, and so they needed to pay him that because that is what he was going to be offered from an l s U. This is what l s U was gonna go after. They're gonna take the biggest swing that they possibly can. If you're looking at the contracts that are around the top end of college football, that's what it is, Jim both Fisher nine million bucks. You know, Nick is right up there, you know, I think nine and a half and and going north of ten here in the next couple of years with his escalators. So that's what ELSU was gonna offer. So, you know, everyone was shocked about that amount in that length, but that's basically what what the top end of college football is going to be, which is what they had to compete with if they wanted to keep him there. You know, let's just put it this way. Michigan States not the type of place that you would take less money to stay at, like maybe you would at Oklahoma if you were Lincoln rightly, So they were going to have to come up to the level that l s U was talking and that's about what it was. So the ten years is actually something that I was I was in my head thinking to myself, what's l s you canna offer? And I thought to myself, they're probably in the neighborhood of nine, nine and a half ten million a year, So you know, ten ten for a hundred could for anybody that John deal Man get that money. Hey, class, I want to ask you, just because obviously you're a Norman. I'll be there shortly for Oklahoma Iowa State, but Big twelve, and as we look at the bigger picture in college football, as we head towards the College Football Playoff, I kind of pose this question last week on our show, and I'm curious to get your thoughts on it. A one lost Big twelve champ versus let's just say, a one lost Pack twelve an undefeated Cincinnati. I think I know what direction you're you're gonna go. But keep this in mind, We've never had a team make it in the top four the College Football Playoff that wasn't within the top seven this late in the college football rankings. So that being said, does a Big twelve champ have a chance with only one loss. Yes, they've got they've got a chance, But I think some dominoes have to fall their way. Let me just paint this scenario, and I hope I don't get to like too much into the weeds now. The first the first thing that I would say is, I don't believe that we've ever had three teams from one conference within the top seven at this point in any year prior. I believe that that's the case, I would have to go back and and like really dig into it. But because the Big Ten has taken up so many of those spots, if you're gonna have a year in which somewhere from someone from outside of the top seven at this point in the year were to get into the top four, it could be this one being is as that those three teams are going to play themselves out, So two of those are gonna be gone. So let's just paint this scenario. You've got four spots. Let's just say sake of argument, that we stick with what Vegas would predict. So Georgia wins out and let's just say Ohio State or give it to a one lost Big ten chance, those are two spots. Okay, we know that those are gonna go down at least two more. I believe that if Oregon wins out, they're gonna be in for sure, and if Cincinnati wins out, they're likely going to be in. Those would be the other two regardless of what happened in the Big twelve, they would be left out. So I think that the Big twelve champ, even with one loss, even if both oh You were to run the table or Oklahoma State were to want run the table. I believe that they need either Oregon or Cincinnati or both to lose. If you give Oregon a loss to Utah and one of the matchups with UTAHF you give SIMP Cincinnati a loss, then all of a sudden, what you see is that the Big twelve Champ with one loss is going to be pitted up against. There would be two basically two spots for three teams. It would be, let's just stake of argument. It would be like a one loss wake Forest, a one loss Notre Dame, a one loss Cincinnati, and a one loss Big twelve Champ. So there there's your people competing for that spot. I think that a one lost Big twelve Champ. And I hate to say that this way started. I'm sorry very but just based on resume, probably would go ahead of Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not if you held Cincinnati, how you can't put Notre Dame in over him, you know, correct? Correct? So like Cincinnati would be to Notre Dame at that point. So then so yes, I think it's plausible that even Oklahoma at thirteen has a legitimate although not not totally you know, um, I don't know what the word I'm looking for here is not totally likely, but plausible road to the college football playoff. It is Get him on Twitter at Joel Clasp Joel Clad. Fox Sports college football analysts will be on the call. How about Joel and LaVar sharing their play by play this week? Man? How about that? How about that? Yeah a LaVar? Yeah, let me just tell you real quick between us, because now that we've you know, I'm sure we've hit the break, so no one's listening. I'm sure. Let me just tell you what Gus told me one of the first times I've ever worked with them. So just to set you up for Sunday, Okay, he says, He says, I know you played baseball, so here's a quick analogy. You can hit the singles, I hit the home run. That's perfect. I was told, I was told a pack of wolves, and just know that you're in the pack. He is alpha. Best friends that anybody ever had. Best friends. Well, they're sharing Gus Johnson in the play by play with this weekend. Uh it is LaVar and Joe Clap. But Joe, we appreciate a man. Let's do it again next week. We'll be watching and listening tomorrow. Next Joe. You gotta there. He is Joe Clad, Fox Sports College Football Analyst with us here on fs ARE. It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. All right. Coming up next, we're gonna have another edition of Over Under is a special look ahead to the NFL. A busy weekend in the NFL. It's yours right here on fs ARE. 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It's Friday morning, and we feel all right, it's a football parties here on a football Friday. So I reach for my forty and I'm going to turn it up soon as we're down with this Keys to these trucks. Yeah, okay, I believe it, alright. List that kind of corny, Hey, but you get Friday that you got that in there. Yeah, I did get football Friday and there. Yeah, and I drink thirty ounces. I don't drink forties. Forties is old school. Yeah, I'm new school, So I drink thirties. Yeah, that's MODELO. I don't know about thirty ounces. Model Yeah. The twenty twos they call him Bombers. You get the twenty twos and MODELO. Brady is not much of a beer drinker, though. I have Aydelo sitting at my house right now. Don't Yeah, don't remember Zema's remember those? Yeah, Brady's got that this fridge too. Those are like the Foo food that was like a Mike's hard lemonade for Jonas had his first sip of alcohol. Man, the first time I've had a smearing off ice. I could feel the enamel on my teeth. Do you remember the first drink you've ever had? I remember my first moment with alcohol. Yeah, I do tell me. Miller Lite. My dad gave us a Miller Lite. We were playing a pickup basketball game, was my brother and I versus my two sisters. And afterwards he gave us and made us. I had to take a sip of his Miller Lite. It was awful. Mickey's Bird Yeah, Mickey's do you remember what Mickey's Happy Birthday? Roberto, Wait until the Kinciana Mickey's straight out of the games. Those aren't even real alcoholic Mickey's what about you? Do you remember Bud Budweiser? Dad? My dad gave me a sip of his Bud and I was like, I don't like this. I was, I was, I was pretty I want to say, I was like probably like nine or ten. But I remember being like, yeah, I don't I don't get why you got yeah not into it? Yeah, um yeah, yeah, I think it's night. That was the set up. This was the long set up. That was amazing, amazing good. I think it was a Mike's Hard lemonade, And of course I liked it because it tasted like lemonade. Yeah, and then it all started. Yeah if my brother was in college and he came home from college and that was this big time football star and he was like, you know what's going on, man, things are going well for you. He's playing basketball at Slippery or Edinburgh. He's at Edinburgh. We can't walking down the hallway. I can't walking down the hallway. He's like, come here, and I walked in. He's like, take a sip of this. He gave me a sip of peach snop. Now here's the thing. I didn't take a sip. I drank it. Oh and I threw up on the floor. Man, all on the floor. And that was my first experience with alcohol. Man when Jonas, you never said yours Jonas, Yeah, I did Miller white man. My dad, my dad would give me some white. Yeah. That was the first one I ever had. Parents didn't drink, you know, they were in the church. Yeah. My dad wasn't a big drinker either, but he liked mill light from time to time. Um, you know we like to do from time to Yes, Yes, it's this, Yeah, defeat your degenerate gambling soul, the problem bet monster. Wait, we're this is over unders and not the profet monster. We're doing over unders here on Fox Sports Radio. Listen, LA got everybody drunk and so here we are. What are the where where we stand this week on the O. So this it was a little bit of a blood bath last week, you guys, Jonas and Lavarre, you split it with four winds, apiecey Brady, anything right? Yeah? Alright? Did you even count the DeShawn Jackson long reception? I mean he he fumbled on that one. Technically it is a reception. It's just you know, it's a reception. Yeah, it's reception. It was yard. So we hit the overall, the only one I got and it was so close to too. This week, you guys are gonna look at the highest point total for the week, That of course is the Cowboys at the Chiefs. It is. It's fifty six and a half. Oh man, I will say, I want to say the under I'm going over. The Chiefs are back, baby, Kansas City's back. I'm gonna take the over all. Right, you guys, Washington at the Panthers, Cam New there's back combined rushing and passing touchdowns one and a half. Oh, I got the over. Yeah, I'll take the under combined rushing touchdowns. I'm gonna take the over. Yeah, just do it. Let's do it, Okay, separation, alright, go ahead, all right. Rogers went over last week and he's got no Aaron Jones passing touchdowns for Aaron Rodgers two and a half against the over. Over over, Yeah, I got that in firstly, all right, Joe Flacco is back. Number of interceptions against the Dolphins at a half. That's negative. Jesus um take the over. The Dolphins have some turnovers lately. I'm gonna see the over too. I think there's gonna be something coming out of his hand because of that. Yeah, just because that will take appropriate someone's coming out of his hand. He can be inappropriate about a toenail, like, how does this work? We're all gonna be and the Lions at the Browns. Number of layers LaVar LaVar is wearing during the broadcast three and a half. LaVar. Go ahead, you guys go first. I'm saying I think you were three. I'll take the over He's gonna go long John's uh collared shirt, suit jacket and then a warm coat over that. I'm gonna say I'm gonna go with two layers. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live.
