1031: Tokenomics: Why Your Agentic AI Bill Is Exploding (and How to Fix It), with Tyler Cox and Ish Shah
In Episode #1031, Ish Shah and Tyler Cox (Distinguished Engineers in the Office of the CTO for Dell Technologies' client group) join Jon Krohn to work out why agentic AI bills are exploding and what can be done about it. Over one weekend Ish burned roughly two billion tokens on a side project, and …
1032: Garbage In, Gospel Out: Agents Are Your New Customers, with Salesforce’s CDO Michael Andrew
During their #sponsored discussion, Chief Data Officer at Salesforce Michael Andrew talks to Jon Krohn about what changes for a data team when its customers are AI agents as well as people. Listen to the episode to hear Michael Andrew talk about why agents need ten times more trusted data than huma…
1034: In Case You Missed It in September 2026
In ICYMI Episode #1034, Jon Krohn moves from what sits underneath AI systems to what it takes to live with them every day. Hear from Aishwarya Srinivasan, Luis Serrano, Katie Malone, Ish Shah and Dilani Kahawala, discussing why the bottleneck in shipping software has moved from execution to judgmen…
1035: Workslop, Glass Cliffs and Inviting Your Fears to Tea, with Carly Taylor
In Episode #1035, Carly Taylor (Founder of Rebel Data Science) returns to join Jon Krohn for a wide-ranging conversation about leading engineering teams when the ground keeps moving. Carly shipped nine Call of Duty titles in roughly five years at Activision, where she led game security, and has sin…
1037: Recursive Self-Improvement: The Eureka Machine, with Dr. Richard Socher
In Episode #1037, Dr. Richard Socher (CEO and Co-Founder of Recursive) joins Jon Krohn to make the case for automating the scientific method itself. Richard’s startup came out of stealth this year with over half a billion dollars raised to build recursively self-improving superintelligence, and his…
1038: AI’s Contentious Math Breakthroughs
In Episode #1038, Jon Krohn unpacks the remarkable and remarkably contentious run of mathematical results AI has produced in recent weeks, led by OpenAI’s claim to have cracked part of a million-dollar Millennium Prize problem. He lays out what was actually proved, the three big caveats that temper…
1039: AI for Real Estate, Walkable Cities and Climate Action, with Prof. John Renne
In Episode #1039, Prof. John Renne (Professor of Real Estate and Urban Planning at Tulane University) joins Jon Krohn to describe what happens when a tenured full professor goes back to school for a master’s in AI. John is a world-leading expert on transit-oriented development who spent decades pus…
Governance at Machine Speed
Fresh off Dreamforce, Gabe and Kelly dig into the increasingly loud debate around slowing down AI. The interesting part isn’t simply whether AI should move faster or slower. It’s deciding what should be allowed to move quickly, where the boundaries belong, who can stop something, and what evidence …
1042: Building for the Agent-Native App Store, with Salesforce’s Tyler Carlson
#Sponsored, SVP, Head of Product, AgentExchange and Partner Experience, Tyler Carlson, returns to talk to Jon Krohn about building for an agent-native app store. Since Tyler’s last appearance in Episode 956, Salesforce has gone headless, opening its data, workflow and permissions infrastructure thr…
1043: AI-Powered Precision Nutrition, with Viome’s Dr. Guru Banavar
In Episode #1043, Dr. Guru Banavar (Founding CTO of Viome) joins Jon Krohn for a technical masterclass on the biology inside your gut. Viome has assembled what Guru calls the largest dataset on human biology ever collected, roughly 100 quadrillion nucleotides of RNA from people in more than 150 cou…
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