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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, I'm your host Paula Skateloni, the founder of Transformative Hermonix, the podcast that offers listeners a synthesis of ancient wisdom and modern science.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, and welcome back to Transformative Hermonix, I'm your host Paula Skateloni.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today, I'm thrilled to share the work of Sandy Broadhurst.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sandy is someone that I had found on a different podcast and then hearing about her work and her exquisite way of bringing beauty back into the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt the urge to bring her on the podcast to purchase her cards to explore this path of love that she was inviting us into and I will say from my own experience of using the cards um, to pretty magical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like this, it's timing of this is perfect for our community because we've been talking about love, authenticity, frequency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like Sandy really brings it all together into something that's very practical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that taps in to things that are already present in our lives around us, and brings us into a deeper connection with the things that are part of living world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And connect us back to that line and understanding of what it means to be on the path of the rose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sandy Broadhurst is a founder and creator of the Mandala's of Love, Sandy Weaves by Brasional Healing through the Secret Geometry of Roses, her transmissions form luminous energy mandala's and soul-charged portals that help to reveal alchemy's and release ancestral imprints, emotional residue and energetic fragmentation within the heart tones and deep memory fields of Mother Earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For over four decades, Sandy has shared her creative and healing path through design while being a metaphysics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her devotions rooted in the awakening of the divine feminine and return to beauty as a sacred medicine on a path to heal and find inner peace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her work is an invitation to open the heart to remember the truth of who we are and to return home to love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to another episode of Transformative Foremonics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Paula Scatalone, your host.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And before we begin today, as always, I would like us to slow down for a moment, whether you're driving or sitting at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just take a moment to orient to the space around you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We begin to answer that question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I know I'm here and not someplace else?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe even find your
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[SPEAKER_01]: these simple steps allow us to create space so that we can ingest and take in the gems of what this discussion is going to bring today I hope and as always with that metaphor I invite you to take a bite digest that it's settled and find a home
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[SPEAKER_01]: and come back for more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is really is a buffet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that we cover a lot of topics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today I'm particularly excited to set with my guest because this is a topic I've been skirting around and following and trying to make sense of and I feel in listening to Sandy speak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of clicking and aha moments that I'm having and I hope you have it as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Sandy, it is such a pleasure to sit with you today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited for what we're going to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Paula.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would like to
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[SPEAKER_01]: share that in my journey, I have not ventured into the rose as a as a sentient force as a deeper understanding of how everything fits together, which is the beauty of all of this right, all of the pieces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel like your piece in particular is helping me to understand the journey that many of us on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm going to start with a question that will probably encompass your journey as well as to start with sharing a little about your journey with the rose and helping us to understand our connection and the importance of it because it's it's more than one would think and there is a lot to this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is true, this is true, I mean my journey with the Rose started from a small chart in a my grandmother was Rose Kate, my sister was Rose Marie, so I was surrounded by roses and my grandfather was a professional gardener and they had a little cottage in the middle of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: and he had a rose garden in front of the of the cottage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just always used to fascinated me because we could run as children around the rest of his garden and he was even like an artist with colour, you know, in creating these amazing colours of colour in the garden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but the rose garden and probably because he didn't want young children getting caught on thorns but we weren't invited to go on the rose garden and also the cottage lived on an unmade up road you know a rough track road right in the depth of the forest and I noticed that he always used to
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[SPEAKER_00]: because the animals used the forest animals and the new forest is really unique because there are that the animals are owned, but they have a license.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have commoners rights with cottages that can go out on the forest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he used to, you know, be out there to try and get manure for his roses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was something I think he'd been in those early days though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, oh, this is really interesting because you know, they're putting the
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the manure from the animals onto these roses and they're creating fragrance and beauty and blossom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was something about the rose that even struck me then that it was an alchemical plant that transformed denser material into these beautiful flowers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But my journey through all of that, then took me on to be a Couture wedding dress designer for 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't a planned path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to be an artist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to paint and photograph.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and default my mother's soad and I grew up with it by age 11 I could make a totaled suit and you know that was my default pattern right so I ended up making wording for ox of silken antique French textile and the women all wanted roses on their dresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: this was the eighties and nineties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm sure I've got a past life at the French court because it was of that time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was big dresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Lady Dye, you know, sort of date Lady Dye, and it's sort of thing big skirts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, dress it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, as I say, we specialised in South Connecticut, French textile, I ended up with two shops and one was a design studio, one was a main shop, in one of them was in Winchester, in the UK, and one was in Romsida at the market town, and we made it square as it dresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I even manifested myself a managed dress in the shop called Rosemary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we meet thousands and thousands of bias cats, silk, gathered roses to go on these dresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were very good at what we did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we were in hello magazine and all the main.
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[SPEAKER_00]: publications and periods at different times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were in all the newspapers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we made top-end and very unusual dresses and a lot of colour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In 20 years I probably made five white dresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I was looking at was going to suckly increase the radiance of this woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that, you know, she just had presence on her day, and it was sometimes it was the cyclist of colour into the fabric that changed her, you know, so I learned a lot in those 20 years about women and their stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, how women felt about their bodies, how when I came to design a wedding dress for a client and sit down and sketch from my collection, and to often bring a mother with her, and it was like, who's dressed is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's day is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: who, you know, mum would be determining what was going on when actually the girl could have met, might have chosen a different dress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and who was to say the child, if I was making me, you know, bridesmese dresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'd go to see them on the wedding day and dress them all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to see the home she grew up in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got this whole picture of the framework of how women feel about themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, what was the attractor factor?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the spectrum of vibration at this woman carried
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I saw that the heart field held, you know, the conscious and unconscious pattinging, that that was actually the calling card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I wasn't new to energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My wedding
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[SPEAKER_00]: the cam, the Egyptian healing energy, metamorphic technique, crystals, numerology, you know, as I could kick in the candy store.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that looks interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think Hogan, explore, explore that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all of that came into the dresses, and I ended up making learning dresses that I worked with numerology, and I took the birth dates of the bride and groom, what the gifts were, what the exchange was in the relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then couch gold and silver threads for the masculine feminine on the heart chakra doused for the semi-precious stones that needed to be stitched onto these threads
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[SPEAKER_00]: cleansed and energised them for the for the couple for the bride predominantly so that she when she put on the dress she just sort of went into a still zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were really sort of say that they did move from really creative design into something that was more of a sacred
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can remember, I couldn't do that magazine saying to me, you know, your 10 years ahead of your time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, in more than 10 years, yeah, and it was just like, it was the magic zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, you know, I was just getting the guidance as to where I was going to, you know, what I needed to do next and how this was to take place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they got the semi-precious stones would be stitched up in the numerological sequence and the dresses came with booklets that said, you know, what the exchange was and so on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to the end of that journey and I just knew I wasn't going to make wedding dresses forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I then know there's something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is something else
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[SPEAKER_00]: We hadn't long been there, and I had to team in the workroom, so it was an 1860s building with a basement, the ground floor had my collection, top floor had my team in the workroom, and that varied from four to six women that were talented seamstresses that were putting these designs together for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah, we haven't long been there and nobody wanted to go in the basement because that's when the fabrics were And they've waiting till I was in the shop and they go Sunday, just think you could just pop down a pick-up sunset's fabric And that was a whole educational piece about the energy of spaces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that was my first experience of connecting with an earth band spirit and that was the way shower that started me to think there's another path opening up for me and I also started doing
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, all the wedding dresses and the women that came in, or, you know, they'd say, I don't know why I feel so much better after coming for my crystals, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I make 12s in Calico.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we were good to designers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was right on the energy field, like touching the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you think, now you think, what a privilege that was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, actually, we don't even like people getting too close to us in the line in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I got, you know, it is too close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I was working really right in on the body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And people would say, I can't wait for my next fitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they've got a little blast of rakey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, of course, what happened was that my team in the work room, you know, on a Monday morning, there would have to be a debrief as to what it happened to everybody over the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, mother hen, counselling, healing, designing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: little did you know little did you know little did I know yeah so I started doing the one-to-one sessions okay and then got into the question of why do some people he and some people don't great that was the question I was going to ask you because I've heard you mentioned that before
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a great question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you determine?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I looked, you know, so for some people that came, we would take an exponent or I, you know, my team would take the exponent actually forward, because I mean, I see much just almost as a facilitator of the technology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I opened it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a hollow bone, I think, is the word most used now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, it's like, well, the common denominator is the place that came out of in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you come back and we exponentially move forward, that's one thing, but I was getting people coming back and it was grand talk day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they, you do the
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so what was it when they went home?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So was it a sick building or was it a toxic relationship?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where my inquiry started to go and I became more and more fascinated by space and because of the experience that I had had in my shop, you know, and I mean, my team didn't want to stay on this premises and that's how I was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had two tiny children at that time, you know, which was pretty inconvenient, you know, so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was beginning to understand the impact that space has on us, and also when we look at the attractor factor of relationship, I began to see that the homes that we buy are also a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as a child, my father,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We moved a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my father had a phrase, if you like, where he would buy what he called a pickstie in a row of palaces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he would buy a place that would do a wrapper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would buy a
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so even early doors, I got to experience quite a number of interesting properties as a child, I mean, you know, with histories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this drew you into understanding space and your relationship to space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which then started to, is that when the traveling began because you started to be called to spaces or maybe it's actually, what happened as the, as the wedding dress time, the 20 years came to
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, they're clearly there was something about the whole understanding of that I was getting a relationship and realizing what the situation was with my relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that those two parts of my life coming into a closing point,
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[SPEAKER_00]: took me out, I went off to KLC, the design school in London, and I did an intensive training there to learn, you know, the mechanics of space and designing for space layout and the energetics that were really taking me forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that took me, yeah, it just took me out on a different trajectory, I had come across Master Chowacok Sui, who was a chronic heating master.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had gone off to Vancouver, Ireland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: without knowing another chronic healer on the planet, but I knew that I recognized his energy, and I could see the violet aura around him, and I knew I had to go find him, and that took me into another experience of learning about energy and working with colour, primer, with energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this has been an incremental process of developing a refinement and insight as to the influencing factors on our lives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can remember somebody saying, two years ago, there was, I think there was a book that came out was about this being the only planet of choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and there was a real realization in fact that we're not on a planet of choice because our patterns usually the patterns that we take on in the first five to seven years of life are the underlying drivers of the choice points that we face on our journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, certainly my journey was no different to that, and I also think that anybody that's drawn to the rose hasn't necessarily had any journey either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is something here about the unfolding of the feminine, the voice of the feminine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So why would I realize for me that's whole journey from me as about being about finding my voice and finding my power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because of, you know, the patterning I experienced in my childhood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I was exploring relationship through making the wedding dresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because my question to everybody was, how did you meet your beloved?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did you meet this amazing person you're going to journey with?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody had a story, you know, it's happenstance or a friend at our store, they hadn't expected to be there or everybody had a story, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel that, well, somebody did say to me it was researching the human dream, but that period of my life,
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[SPEAKER_00]: brought me a wisdom and an insight of the feminine story and the part of empowerment of the feminine and the sacredness of relationship to all the impact of relationship on our soul's evolution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we look at the inner temple, which is what that one's all about, and how the dress and everything else, when we take it out to the space that we live in, it's like the outer temple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the next piece of our expression.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the next piece of our experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I feel at home where I live?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I feel home here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I feel at home where I live?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so whatever we might have going on in here, that is an ongoing story, when I started to look at people's houses, the story was outpicked it in the house, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were to choose, yes, yes, yes, beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: my own experience of this journey here, this, you know, this book, this earth, the life of the earthling, you know, and what, and what we, what the soul, it could cause forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all relationship, it's all, you know, our partners, our relationships, but ours is our relationships too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that evolutionary process took me to developing more skill, a different skill set in the healing arts of reading the energy of a space, and developing tools, developing ways in which I could
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[SPEAKER_00]: calibrate space and be able to change the energy and to release negative energy within a space.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have found over the years now so you know we're talking 25 years of doing this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well actually it was nearly 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you go back to when I release the spirit in the basement of my wedding dress shop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's really been, that's become more my mastery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've become quite adept at spirit communication and release and the understanding that the heart holds all the stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, this is where the trauma sets in the heart and all of the earth-bound spirits that I have released through the
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[SPEAKER_00]: have all had trauma in the heartfelt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and that wound pattern was strong enough for the soul not to clean me release at that last breath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and so from seeing the dynamics in relationship and seeing how our lives evolve through our journey, do we heal these original patterns that can often be set right back in early childhood?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do we
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[SPEAKER_00]: as anubis in the Egyptian pantheon speaks of, we should have hearts as light as feathers through our journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: my process evolved through the last 20, 25 years to a very refined vision of how we come home to ourselves, how we do we truly come home to ourselves and coming home to our spaces is one way
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the journey, the journey, it's just sort of incrementally to me, deeper and deeper, into understanding energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on all sorts of levels, you know, I trained in energetic from sway, work with color, work with sand, work, and found all of these different tools that were going to assist me in bringing balance and harmony in spaces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and it was through that journey that I ended up at the Alambra in Granada in Spain at Rose time in the end of April in 2010.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Alambra had been on my wish list on my wall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are only two places to be fair on my wish list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one was the Alambra and I couldn't
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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't I didn't know why and the other was rustling chapel in Scotland and I didn't know at the time they both had a connection with the rose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They would just drop in and I just knew that one day I would go visit and I had the opportunity to go to the Alambra
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[SPEAKER_00]: with my then partner and have, you know, two, four days in the Alambra and I've noticed in my journey that there are certain pulse points when there is shift and the Alambra was one of
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[SPEAKER_00]: a general life garden there, a feeling like I'd come home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a familiarity with the energy and the beauty that was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And before I'd even got as far as the Nazareth Palace,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I spotted a dark clip-tedge with roses dancing on the top of it, multi-coloured roses and I'm like, oh no, I need to go in here, and I'd gone with my favourite camera, had always
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then the gardens in the Alambra are like magical rooms with roast birds and fountains and waterways and you walk through an archway and then there's another delight with a fountain and
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[SPEAKER_00]: the roses were saying that photograph me, me, don't miss me, I'm over here, come a photograph me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I, you know, I just, I was like, just, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and those two days passed in a haze.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the alambra itself and the, the rhythmical script, the Arabic script and the proportions of the rooms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, all of those things had already started to come into my field of...
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[SPEAKER_00]: delight if you like because I'd become to understand the geometry of our spaces and how these different spaces upset up for how we feel and the impact of the energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the lion court is slightly trapezoid, it's holding mystery, but it's got the 12 lions, you know, which is
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, yes, it's called in me back as you can tell, but I also realised my connection to a Sufi mystic called Ibn Arabi who spent the first half of his life in Andalithia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also had come to understand that the, the, the alambra was on a Venus temple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it had a connection to the planet Venus and not the goddess Venus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And...
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[SPEAKER_00]: yeah it was just remarkable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I came home with all of these photographs and loaded them on my computer and a couple of days later woke up with this voice in my head that said we'd like you to put 11 of us together and work with us and this one behind me is one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've printed them onto silk and stretch them on canvas but this was one of the ones from the Alambra.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as I gathered them together, they instructed me to sit and meditate with each one and then they showed me where they worked, how they worked, how they worked together and how they worked as a grid, a chakra grid on the body to heal and balance the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that took me out on a whole new way of understanding the roses from all of the thousands of thousands of roses that we put on these dresses for these women and my grandmother who was part of my soul group and made sense of a religious functional family that I've birthed into and my sister rose me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this thread of the rose and her connection to the divine feminine, and it was just like a mystery that was developing, like blossoming like the rose, and I sat there, you know, after hearing these words, and you know, normally it's where's the coffee, but no, no, this was, you know, we'd like to put
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who am I speaking to?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said, you know, we are the sisterhood of the rose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We set alongside the white knight brotherhood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are, is a brotherhood of the rose, and you will know many of those that are part of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the your guide for this work will be this send it muster lady Nada, who I've come to understand is very connected to Venus and is also the overlapping salt of Mary Magdalene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, then it was just like, you know, but this is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, so unexpected, and they instructed me to start laying the cards on my body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every night, it was just late and every night and put these photographs on the chakra points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and, and, and, you know, the information was really super clear about where they needed to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was instructed to do that until I had
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[SPEAKER_00]: being able to memorize the frequency, the code, in each of these roses, and place them place them on the chakras.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I'd only get as far as a solar plexus and I'd be completely gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other chances I'd do it two or three times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as soon as I got to that point they said, okay, no, now you can set us up, we're a workshop, we're a class, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I put the class out when I had 11 amazing women show up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had 11 roses and I had 11 women turn up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which was just magical for this way of the rose class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They said that they were called the way of the rose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how it started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a beautiful story of the soul, your soul leading you to your purpose, to why you're here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this, yeah, it's like, it's like, I'm, it's interesting, the last, that last wedding dress collection with the golden silver threads and the crystals was actually called the threads of life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I've begun to realise that we are sacred with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know we weave our way from our childhood and our childhood stories and they get woven into whatever it is that our soul is called to step forward to experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are points in our lives when there's a kind of convergence when things start to make sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So from me, never having completed my degree course in fine art and photography.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here I was, with my photographs, you know, producing something that was weaving the healing arts, you know, with with for purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: incrementally from 2010, well, but in 2010 I started teaching them in London and I had the opportunity to teach them in New Jersey in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, I was taking twice a year over to the states and you know, teaching it the philosophical society in New York and the open centre and the metacenter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of these, excuse me, magical places.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and just seeing how the women were responding to the rose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How were they responding to this message?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The roses are just pure love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got no other agenda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I, you know, I experienced them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And each one of these roses has got like a coded message.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they open us to inquiry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and again, we come back to a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's no relationship to this rose or what's it my relationship to what this rose is inviting me to explore?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because from 2010 I had 11 roses, 2011 they sent me off to Rosalind Chapel in Scotland to pick up three master roses, the Divine Feminine, the Divine Masculine, and the Golden Flame, and they set on a crown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: E3 roses on the left and right hand hemispheres of the brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So asking us to bring balance to these qualities within ourselves, of logic and disarming, and our creativity and our intuition, opening us out to these different aspects of self, to bring something more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because when we bring that mask and infeminine together, there's a third energy that's birthed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like if you've got two overlapping circles and you've got the versica, this area, the overlaps between the two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is the potential to birth the divine child from a Christic tradition, the divine child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that for me is that pure innocent connection to source,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we need masking and feminine imbalance to birth anything, whether that's a baby or a business or a creative project, we need both aspects of ourselves, we need the receptivity and the in breath and the out breath, you know, we, there is this, yes, harmony that comes, the best something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I had the masculine feminine and the divine flame, the sake flame that starts this sort of illumination of the verticality, if you like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they, they incrementally added a game and through 2012, 2013 and in 2014 by 2014, I had five levels of the work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What came after the master roses were a set of 11 roses that were the Corden Sansa rose angels who are the transformers of the five wounds to love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of abandonment, betrayal, denial, judgment, and separation that sit in the shakras where we hold our stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what the roses said when they first came through was that each and every one of us is women incarnating at this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: had at least one of those five wounds to love, to alchemist, that would either broaden through our soul story, or which embedded through from the ancestral line, through our mothers, because 70% of our emotional storyline comes over the placenta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we absorb even in uterror, even know whether we're going to be safe and left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what it is that our mothers are experiencing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, you know, refridic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not from the get go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a, that was a big overlap when I've heard you speak of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my journey I've been tracking through the gene keys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you know the gene keys, the six core wounds of humanity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I went and I put them all next to each other because I've been given music for seven years that take people through a unwinding of the core wounds
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[SPEAKER_01]: the Beatles usually, which is interesting from the UK, but the ways in which the Rose speaks to us of how to support the unwinding and coming back to these core wounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as the that hold and it really isn't and it's like a yarn, a ball of yarn that if we start to align it, there's a huge expansion that starts to happen in our energy because so much is bound, you're around those wounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I found with the roses, and what I've come to understand is that when I birthed this sat, they were birthed in windology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were birthed with that languaging of these five wings to love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in fact, what the roses have brought is a south.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So although they're illuminating the location in the body where these core wounds can get caught and where they are in the body, help us as facilitators to help guide others where they can track out or where they can question, you know, like, for instance, in the base chakra, base
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the self is self-love, self-value, self-esteem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am worthy, I am enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is the absolute fundamental, it's like, like the base of Maslow's triangle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we have not got that in place, it is very difficult to unwind anything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On that vertical, on that verticality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for most of us as women, this is a big piece because it's not only where we might have experienced being abandoned within those early years, but it's also where we can abandon another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's also more than anything else, it's where we can abandon ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're looking at all of the places where you're looking at, you know, having a divine downloaders to what you need to be doing,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there is something in that base that is absolutely not sound, we can abandon that path as we can abandon ourselves within it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We pull our route up, number of people I've worked with chronic fatigue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I did train as a Samaritan as well so those that you know are struggling to stay embodied, scan the base chakra there's nothing there, you know, it's really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, I, I, I, I did mention that I, I, I, I had gone off to meet Master Choe Cook Sea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went on to train in chronic healing, chronic psychotherapy, chronic funchway, and, and that true energetic ship from Choe of our spaces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, that also gave me the skills to scour, shackles, and, actually, the energy and
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[SPEAKER_00]: The energy anatomy is mandated on the work that I did with Reiki, with Sakaim, but mostly with chronic healing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I found it's such a powerful energetic
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[SPEAKER_00]: So weaving the roses with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful, something else in completely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, in that, I was doing one-to-one sessions for people with the roses and chronic healing at one point, a combining the two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and it was just so powerful in the way that the roses and they were sort of feminine, energy, woven with the structure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The awakening has a lot of structure to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a magical exploration, really, of the, well, of the parathoroses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I feel like you're speaking to the sacred geometry of the rose, and it's original blueprint, and that when we have that original frequency, I call it your signature frequency, but each shock rate, each energy center,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then people don't all understand that we have more than the seven, and you speak to that in your different decks as well, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The absolute cosmic upper shock rise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, of course, the other thing that really fascinated me, when I started sharing this work, in 2014, I had the first edition of the Oracle Printed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the more I got to share the work, the more my openness to the curiosity of what was going on here was blossoming too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I started dousing the energy centers up through the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: before I put the rose cards on the body for the current.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And checking the orientation of the spend, because obviously the chakra points are the crossing points of the stream, the currents of energy that move up through the body, the Eden, the Pinyala, the masculine feminine currents, and they cross over the chakra points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I started dows in the chakra's
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[SPEAKER_00]: and seeing what the orientation of preference was, whether it was an anti-clockwise spin, a inn, feminines spin, or a clockwise spin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would go up through the body and chart, you know, what the body was showing me as part of the balancing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd put the roses up on the body,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I would down as a game and the pendulum would spin a bit and to clockwise and spin a bit clockwise and clockwise clockwise and what it was doing was the rose was in training the chakra into its perfect geometry bringing it because the the sacred geometry of the rose is golden mean it's pentagram it's golden mean
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what it's doing, and the body is golden mean, all of the proportions of our body are golden mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This ratio of 1 to 1.61803.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's known as the beauty proportion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is exactly the same as this dance of Venus in the heavens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Venus in the heavens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a Venus grid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, much of takeover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Venus does this dance in the heavens over eight years of this, the creating this rosabella, oh yes, the rosabinus, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she takes 1.618 years to get from point to point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the, the, and the rows, she opens her five seapuls around her bud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not consecutively, not prowl, she opens them in the same way that you would draw a five pointed star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then her blossom explodes from that, but so the underlying geometry has golden me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is pentagram.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the ratio embedded in the pentagram is golden me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this ratio, which we recognize is beauty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, you know, at some level with an, is it's why the, you know, the great artists, like Leonardo incorporated this golden mean ratio in
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the paintings, because at a cellular level in the body we could relate to the paintings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is this beautiful weave of, as above so below, and it is said that the rose was a gift from Venus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that it was brought with the earliest star seeds from Venus many many years ago and the earliest fossilized remains of the rose on the planet over 30 million years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the rose has been
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if the Rose holds this beautiful golden ratio and Venus holds this golden ratio while she's creating this rose baller in the heavens, I went off to Zatter France to do some training with a physicist called Dan Winter in 2006.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had something called a bliss tuner that he had created on his computer program, which he's dragged you up on the breasts to his computer, and then you went into a meditation, and the dials on his computer told you when you would hit the zone, and the zone
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what Dan was saying is the ratio of the heart in love is gold in me, which is the ratio of the rose and it's the ratio of Venus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we can see why Venus is the thing is the planet of love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The rose is given as a gift of love and why rose oil on the heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, or why we use Hawthorne, for instance, Hawthorne is part of the Rose family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Craticus, we use it as a self-abound for that, for the heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is just this beautiful magic, and I think the connection with the Rose and she's
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this evolving awareness of the Divine Feminine is
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[SPEAKER_00]: is all part of this picture of this evolving point that we're in in a much greater cycle of this return of the qualities that the divine feminine, the sacred feminine, or the empowered
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, this is why we're here right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I believe that Dalai Lama said that the world would be saved by Western women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because it is for us to rise and speak of that truth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to bring Barnett's back to our humanity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To do our inner healing, to do our inner healing so that we can do that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this was one of the things that they said when they first came through, they said that each one of us that as we're meant to come in with one of those wounds to laugh to, to alcoholise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they also said,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That, you know, it was important for women to do the work that they to heal the stories that they have around the masculine, how many have holding priestess wounds and stories from the past of not ending too well when we put our heads above the parapet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and what they said was that in, this was 2010, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said, you know, that in the coming years, it was for us as women to pay attention to heal our relationship with the masculine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, you know, our relationship with our inner masculine as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it, they said that it, we needed to go beyond the drama dancers and the passive aggressive behaviors in order to get on,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was for us to do our inner work, and then be able to hold the wounded masking into his heart, because they said that's where the wound is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Hret.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so interesting starting to see the brothers of the Rose emerging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are several lives seen within the
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[SPEAKER_00]: new age, but in the evolving consciousness community, where there are men who are obviously much more connected to their inner feminine and their heart, which makes them super powerful and super attractive for us as women, because we can see that they've done many of them, some of
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[SPEAKER_00]: question of all but you know many of them have done the work that enables us to feel safe and to feel treasured because I believe that it is for us to feel safe and treasured by the masculine which enables us to open up that it completely different level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, a particularly in that cycle chakra, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is because our warrior heart energy has got somewhere to land.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because you know the masculine wants to embed in in the feminine wants to and it doesn't I'm we're not talking about there there's no difference in in whether it's a same sex relationship or a heterosexual sexual relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One will always hold one more quality slightly different qualities than the other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the masculine wants to embed in the feminine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And our warrior hearts have got to be held safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, for us to blossom as roses, there has to be that sense of safety for us to really open and to drop those last levels of guardedness that we've learned over the Eons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of our safety, re-establishing trust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: True intimacy, with ourselves, with the earth, with others, can occur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can see the evolutionary path that women have been on because certainly for here in the UK in the sort of 80s and 90s, we have Margaret Thatcher here as our prime minister, who wore a skirt and carried a handbag, but was working with an iron fist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was not much in going on in there, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And women were, you know, were, were, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: wearing sort of our marney trousers suits and I can have as much sex as you, I can drink as much as you and I can get as far as you in the boredom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but we lost the goddess, we lost the feminine in our attempt to speak the same language coming from here, not the heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I see is the journey that we've been on since the beginning of the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I look at the Venus cycles from, say, 2004 to 2012, we were, that was an activation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from 2012 to 2020, an integration of what we were, could we embody this, could we hold this, could we embody it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's really been about being able to live it, I feel since 2020 in this cycle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we fully embody a balanced, masculine feminine within us?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which enables this divine child, this pure, innocent portal of connection to source to be our guiding light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we become light houses, basically?
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[SPEAKER_00]: On solid ground, illuminated from within and that can shine a light for our next steps and shine a light of safe passage for others in a storm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where the magic is, and the rose is such a bomb for the heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just beautiful, just beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there is a...
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[SPEAKER_01]: such an invitation for us to also redefine our relationship with God or source or that which we are in that as well that is so many people this time because of what's happening in the world and it's just unreal at so many levels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're called to
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[SPEAKER_01]: have more meaning in the larger picture, and this is all culminating and happening, you know, for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I have such a good, I feel after this conversation, a sense of where the rose, why the rose, is part of this conversation and needs to be part of this conversation as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, just recently, I mean, I've been very,
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[SPEAKER_00]: inspired by the monks in that have been doing the wolf piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that has linked me back into, again, these threads in my life, linked me back to my time training in our Hattick Yoga, which was very much based in Buddhist principles and also three years at a
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the first time that I sat eyes on venerable Bikupani Kara, who is the lead monk, who was a visionary, who put this walk for peace together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I recognised his Christlight and the rose heart, because he holds both as well as, you know, that Buddha embodiment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually as we're speaking today, there is a whole delegation of them that have gone to the United Nations in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a shift that's going on and we can feel that those of us at a sensitive, we can see the chaos, but actually underneath this, there is something really amazing that is developing
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[SPEAKER_00]: the sense of the verticality and the divine connection to the divine, and I think that's really where that's because I've got two sets, the rose oracle, and I've got the rose dragons, and the rose dragons have come in really to expand that connection, deep into the earth so that we are connected to the elemental aspects of ourselves,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the Magdonan says, you know, we are here to be a 100% physical and a 100% spiritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that we need to be fully embodied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I spent most of my life trying to get out of my body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really didn't want to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The trauma from my childhood meant that, you know, I, I had master's degree in people pleasing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and, and, and actually, we many of us came in a
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying this, I'm really tricky, Namba.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I always gave them metaphor that in that decision point of moving from source to form.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We started the entrance and then said, what did I sign up for?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then tried to go back and that's what we've done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas we know where was the small, where was the small print here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't absolutely know that at some levels, as I was birthing, I wanted to go back in again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just I know I'm not going to be safe, I know I'm not going to be held.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that I've come into a really dysfunctional family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tighten your hair?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the amount of people when we say that to people, they they know what we mean, it really hits home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this vessel is off the earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every molecule of this vessel is off the earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the more we can connect with nature, Golden Mean, the more we can connect with what for me, Rose Medicine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this is what this is what my sense the Rose is for us, it's a bound for the heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the elemental rose dragons really are, you know, inviting us into deeper connection with the elemental nature of ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, I take myself off to the shore, I'm very blessed where I live, I'm sort of ten minutes away from the shore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can stand on the shore and connect with the earth, look at across the water, feel the wind on my face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we're very lucky here in the UK, the sun is shining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can communicate with the solar power in the fire and the rose causes into embodiment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we look at the rose accruciant teachings, what is that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the verticality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about being a bridge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about bringing heaven on earth, which is what the roses are about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and this cross of incarnation, this cross of being able to stabilise and open ourselves up to being here in incarnation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that do that was we come into to peace and we find peace within the rows of the heart will open and and that there's that's where the magic is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because we're able to be here and be fully present to all that's unfolding within open hope and heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know, it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, I was reflecting just recently when I published the first edition of the Rose Oracle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was invited two years running to speak to a group in the United Nations on the roads and the path of peace and there is something here that is emerging again in parallel to what
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[SPEAKER_00]: the blossoming of the rose, and if you're looking at the Buddhist teachings and the connection to quanyan, quanyan is with the lotus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lotus and the rose are east and west.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they are bringing us back to the same thing, the compassionate heart, the heart that cares, the heart that it sees suffering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really believe that that energy, that movement
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[SPEAKER_00]: this new earth, or to be homiluminous, as had the rinse worth, that's, you know, this path, you know, it's really, it requires us to be fully present to what is still, sitting within us, within our hearts, that need's healing, that needs that soothing balm, needs to be witnessed, and needs to be asked for us to be fully present to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: with compassion, kindness, and space, and for unfolding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for us to unfold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's so, so beautiful, so powerful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have just loved every moment of listening to you speak about this and being on this journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, it is, it is, it is, you know, just a continual magical unfolding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've just followed the path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just, you know, wherever it's wanted me to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it took me off to Samusat to bring through the Rose Dragons, but it, you know, ultimately it's all about coherence in the field and and I've really noticed that that our nervous systems are, you know, hand out by what's going on out here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, what we're seeing, what we're seeing that we're horrified, that seeing minds in humanity to man and how it's still playing out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So more and more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we need coherence more and more because that's going to continue to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we need to find those ways to bring that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so as we think about that, what are the ways that people can reach you or your medicine to work on this coherence and to show up in the ways that we're inviting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I offer a series of consultation options, there's on my website mandalasoflove.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a series of options and I work directly with clients doing in a mandalas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and a clearing and activation process for the heart and for the cellular structure of the body healing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I work with people in their homes and I work with and create sacred mandalas to heal the land.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As I say, over the years I've become very adapted, expert release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what that's doing is it's lifting the trauma field from mother earth and I've worked all over the world Remotely, I was a prior to 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I traveled a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I You know, I did all my of my work in person, but since since 2020 It's I've found ways in which it works online so I have that
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[SPEAKER_00]: as an option and I periodically offer short five, five week courses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got one that starts this Thursday actually called Venus, the Rose and the Path of Peace which will be working with that with the wound patterns up through the body and I've also got a six month program that starts
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jenny of discovery really, it's a Jenny home to self, but it's also giving the tools to be able to do this work for others, to create sacred mandalice of love for others, and to be able to read the energy of the roses and use the roses as medicine for the heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so many different ways to connect with you and the roses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's minimal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just started with the Rose Dragon deck because I thought I'm just going to start somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to feel into what you feel called to, but it is definitely a journey that I'm enjoying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've only, I think I've been about a month or two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's powerful so I would like to support people in reaching out to you in whatever way and I'm so glad we connected And just had this time, I feel very honored to have sat with you and just created the space for this message to come through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is such a unique, when we've all had unique journeys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it's another facet of what's possible for us in this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I also have rosal oil on my side, some Egyptian rosal oil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been beautiful time, I appreciate every moment of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for being here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And is there, we'll put the website in the show notes so that they can reach you there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
01:13:20.624 --> 01:13:24.789
[SPEAKER_01]: And any parting message for our guests before we end?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, don't listen to just Kate remembering, just take a few nice, easy breaths.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in and out and come home to your body, bring yourself present, wherever the minds take you, just come back to the breath and present, and remember to stop and smell the roses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what we end on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We,
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[SPEAKER_00]: our center of a man-dollar of love and our families, our best families are a man-dollar of love and our soul families are a man-dollar of love and know that we are held and loved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will end on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will end on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're so welcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Until next time, take good care and thank you for being part of the journey.