Lest You Forget

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I remember in elementary school when we used to have like these um assignments that basically teach you how to use the internet.
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You know, you'd like go to computer lab and then you have to go look up this thing.
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Yeah.
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And so I remember where one of the assignments was like, go to, I don't know if this was a site, but like go to ancestry.com and then go look up your family name and see what family history you can find.
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And I always remember not like um I would just get stopped really early because my parents' parents are not born in the US.
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So there there's like no records, you know.
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You should try what I'm doing, because I thought the same thing would happen with the like people on my mom's side of the family, because it's very like the same thing where they're not born in the US.
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Um, but I've got I've traced records back through Spain.
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I've traced like from other countries.
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From back when I'm referring to.
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Yeah.
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So that is interesting.
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And I would be curious because I think my dad did his fair share of research because his parents passed when he was eight.
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And so, and his brother also.
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But I think he went back a certain I don't know how far back he went, but it saw it stopped at a certain place.
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But even just I think he knew that like his dad was like an inventor in the village that they lived in, which is kind of cool.
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Yeah, yeah, like the neighborhood inventor, you know.
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Um, I don't know anything else.
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Yeah.
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Do you have like I have like deep, deep curiosity for these things?
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And just recently in the last month or so, I felt like I did I yeah, I would say and feel okay with saying it did feel like the Lord told me, like, know your people.
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Get to know your people.
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Um, like those who are living and those who aren't living.
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I think there's something to that.
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I definitely have gone through like my phases of like going in and out of the interest of like knowing more about my family history.
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But I will say that there is something to what you said about knowing your people with even knowing how to pray over your family.
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Yeah.
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So and that I feel like I've had this conversation with my mom before.
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Um, and my mom is a strong woman of faith.
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But when it comes to my dad's side of the family, I really don't know much.
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I know that they were not believers, whereas my mom's side is.
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I don't know how far back, but and then she's from like a fishing village.
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That is so interesting to me.
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Yeah, that is not family history is interest is fascinating.
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Well, that's something that most people in the US can say, like, I don't know anybody from a fishing a fishing village, you know.
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I should ask her more.
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I know she listens to this podcast too, but yeah, I definitely get curious.
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I think that's so cool that you're doing that.
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And I think that is like something sometimes when we have like these unique interests, right?
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That a lot of times it's useless information, but I don't find this to be useless at all.
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I think this is how you pass along family stories.
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Yeah.
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And there's so much like um like oral family history, you know, where somebody, I don't know if if this ever came around with your family, but like somebody would say, Oh, you're a descendant of this, or oh, our family comes from here.
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And somebody, my grandma, I think, told me once that my that my great grandfather on my maternal side, his family was came was Jewish.
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Oh, so I waited side, my my mom's side.
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Okay, my maternal great-grandfather.
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Okay.
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So really that's what um I wanted to.
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I so it was kind of started with like looking through like the genealogies in the Bible or thinking about the genealogies in the Bible.
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Oh, wait, by the way, welcome to through it.
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Oh welcome to through it.
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We are gonna talk about the Bible.
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This is Ariana.
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This is Kimberly.
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Hi.
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So we're talking about the Bible and genealogy.
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If you've just started listening.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if anybody just like fast forwards to the intro.
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I don't think so.
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I like the bantering in the beginning within the podcast.
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Me too.
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Um, I I like that you're talking about genealogy though, because I came across something in Deuteronomy this week, and I was like, what's the connection to that?
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But before I go into that, I want to hear what you're saying.
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Um, what was I saying?
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I know that my I have a lot of Deuteronomy in my notes, so we might be overlapping.
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Yeah, which is great.
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One was Jethro.
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Did you dig into him?
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No.
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Okay.
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So Jethro is the father-in-law of Moses.
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah, is um what is his wife's name?
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Zipporah.
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Moses' wife.
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Her father, right?
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Is yeah.
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Jethro.
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Yes.
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Because there was a passage that talked about hmm, let me see.
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I think it's in Exodus 18.
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I just thought this was a really cool passage that I hold on, let me see if I can find it.
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Yeah, Jethro's advice to Moses when so the Israelites are surrounding Moses from morning to night, and Jethro is like, what are you doing?
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He's like, They're coming to me to ask what God's will is over their life.
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He is like, What you're doing is not a good thing.
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Yeah, to delegate some of these tasks.
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The big matters, have them bring it to you.
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The smaller matters, delegate it to other people.
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But it I was, I was the reason why I dug into that is because I was curious because Jethro wasn't a part of the people that got um, he wasn't part of the Exodus out of Egypt.
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So I'm like, was he a believer?
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And because he believed in the same God, and so Jethro was actually a descendant of Abraham.
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He was, yeah, and so he was a priest of Midian.
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Midianites.
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Yeah.
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I was gonna say Cushites, yeah.
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Midianites.
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And and then that's a whole nother thing that I kind of went down that rabbit hole this week, too.
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So I love that you're talking about this.
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So the thank you, the point of like it's it all started with this belief that um somebody told me that my family was Jewish, and um maybe incorrectly so, I got a little bit excited of like, oh, maybe we could be Jewish.
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And um nobody, I mean I can't go back far enough, but as into the 1500s, this man's family is being born and dying in the same town in Mexico.
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So that far back is so I'm fascinated.
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Who knows how accurate it is that far back?
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There's only so many things like record-wise.
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Yeah.
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Um, there's like a sweet spot for anybody that has passed somewhat recently, there's very little on because of like just the legalities.
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Yeah.
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And then any like with that that far back, it's like, you know, there's certain cultures did a better job of keeping record of things.
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But it's very similar to like the the genealogies in the Bible of how you can find who married who and what their children's names were.
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Um, so all of that to say that we're not gonna talk about genealogy today, but it did lead me to the to the point of like um the importance of like remembering and forgetting.
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And remembering is important and forgetting is equally important in some regard.
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And the um what made me what what prompted it or the first place I want to go is Deuteronomy.
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I absolutely love I love Deuteronomy.
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I don't know if this is wrong either.
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I had the thought earlier this week where I'm like, Lord, can I love more of the books as much as I love Exodus, Deuteronomy, and Ezekiel?
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And I I do just always go back to them.
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I used to, it's so funny you said Deuteronomy because I was in Deuteronomy this morning and I haven't been, and I didn't know you were gonna talk about it.
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Um, but I remember when I first went through the Old Testament, I was like, oh my gosh, I love Deuteronomy.
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And now I've been on this thing with Exodus where I'm like, I love Exodus.
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I love Exodus.
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I feel like, and I also really, really, really love Isaiah.
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So we're not like far from that since that like your other book is Ezekiel.
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I love how wild Ezekiel is.
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Yeah, yeah, so wild.
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Like it's especially coming out of like Jeremiah.
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And Jeremiah is known as like the weeping prophet.
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The weeping prophet.
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Yes, where I'm like, Lord, I'm so thankful for your word and everything that came out of Jeremiah, please, but also like continue to open my eyes to Jeremiah because I struggle, I struggled getting through it, yeah.
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And then you get into Ezekiel and you're like, oh yes, I know cooking food on cow dung and laying on your side for a year.
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Yeah, I'm like some of the books that I was less interested in before, I'm finding like a new interest in.
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And I think that same pattern rings true with other things in life, like something as basic as the gym.
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Like I used to love working out back.
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Now I hate hitting back, you know, like changes, I think, in different seasons for different reasons.
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Yeah, like the different things happen.
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There's life experience, and then I think also part of like the Lord showing us things or changing our interests or different seasons.
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So let's um let's go to Deuteronomy eight, and I'm gonna read chapter 11.
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Verse 11.
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Yes, every time without fail.
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Deuteronomy chapter eight, verse eleven.
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Okay, take care lest you forget the Lord your God by not keeping his commandments and his rules and his statutes, which I command you today.
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Less when you have eaten, less when you have eaten and are full, and have built good houses and live in them.
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And when you when your herds and flocks multiply, and your silver and gold is multiplied, and all that you have is multiplied, then your heart be lifted up, and you forget the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery, who led you through the great and terrifying wilderness, with its fiery serpents and scorpions, and thirsty ground where there is no water, who brought you water out of the flinty rock, who fed you in the wilderness with manna that your fathers did not know, that he might humble he might humble you and test you.
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I want to throw something.
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This is so good.
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I read a very similar passage.
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Keep going.
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Or are you gonna go?
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I think I was mid where am I to test you to do good in the end.
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That was it.
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To do good in the end.
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Throw something, throw something because there is so much of the like yeah, I want to flip a table.
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Yeah, like in a good way.
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There's like cute aggression.
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I think there's Bible aggression.
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Oh, for real pin.
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Yes.
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That should be a good thing.
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I like want to punch through the drywall.
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Why are we like this?
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I'm like, okay, what can I pick up that's near me?
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Um, because okay, so you just were read uh Deuteronomy 8, 11, but how it talks about lest you forget, right?
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All these good things happen to you, lest you forget.
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So let's like think of a way that we can memorialize this so we don't forget.
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So I was telling you I was in Deuteronomy 32, and let's see, in verse 15, I did like a study on verse 15.
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It seems like a random verse, but I had to look into it.
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It says, but Jeshon grew fat and kicked, you grew fat, stout and sleek, then he forsook God who made him and scoffed at the rock of his salvation.
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Um, so I looked that up because it is kind of hard to understand.
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But one of the notes, one of the commentaries on that is prosperity is never evil in itself, yet it tests the heart.
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So Hosea 13, 6, it echoes the pattern of when they had pasture, they became satisfied.
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When they were satisfied, their hearts became proud, therefore they forgot God.
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Yeah.
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So that's it is very similar.
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That would, I would assume there would be a cross-reference there.
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There has to be.
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Yeah.
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So that that is what this verse in Deuteronomy is saying that, like when you have eaten and you are full, and you have built good houses and you live with them, and your herds and your flocks multiply, and silver and gold is multiplied, and your heart is lifted up, and then you get to this place where you're like, look at everything I've done.
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Because you've forgotten the Lord.
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And there is there's so much, it's so easy for us as humans to be just in the way that we're impatient, and I feel like we're just, I don't know, always children in we see three feet in front of our noses, and that's really it.
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And the um, you know, it's like if you meet, or you know, like a let's say Instagram, for example, social media, if you post a picture and you have like 85 comments telling you how beautiful you are, but then there's one comment that's like, oh, your hair's out of place.
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Like, what do you remember?
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You remember the bad for whatever reason.
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And like when you get to a place where everything's good and there's no struggle and everything's fine, it's not like, oh, be careful, oh, watch out, but remember the Lord.
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Remember the Lord who brought you out of Egypt.
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Remember the Lord who gave you water when there was thirsty ground, who gave you manna from heaven.
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And I just I think the point is like the not the tension, but like the parallels between intentionally remembering and intentionally forgetting.
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So, how do we do it?
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This is so good.
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I, you know what I appreciate about the way that you bring up certain topics?
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I could tell that you're very intentional with it.
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Because it's not a coincidence that there's oftentimes so much overlap with what I've been sitting on and then what you bring, or vice versa.
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Cause I have been, and like we're gonna pray about this later tonight, but like the way the pattern of so our podcast is called Through It.
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Part of the meaning through it of being like, we go through it again and again.
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We're gonna go through it again, we're gonna go through it again.
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And so this pattern of us forgetting, yeah, falling into idolatry, yes, going back to God and crying to him, him being merciful again, and then him being merciful and showing us favor, we fall back into idolatry, we go back and cry to him, and it's kind of like repeated.
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Yeah, you know, and it reminds me of uh again in Exodus when the Israelites they're um getting led out of Egypt, then they get led into the wilderness.
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God provides, they're hungry, he provides, they're thirsty, he provides.
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And every single time they come against this point of tension, they complain as if they forgot of the crazy miracles that they just walked out of.
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Yeah.
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And they're looking at this pillar of cloud and fire, like they know the presence of God is before them.
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So it's even harder when you do have something staring at you in your face, and yet you are still forgetting.
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Like we are so lost as a people, and then we look at culture today, and it is literally the same pattern that we see in a different context.
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Because we're not remembering what God has done.
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We serve the same God as then as today, and and he's no different.
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And I think I um I get like part of my love for the uh Exodus and Deuteronomy.
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Like, I I find myself often praying, like, Lord, thank you for parting the Red Sea, thank you for delivering your people out of Egypt.
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Like, I try to remember back not just like the things that I do, but the things that God has done throughout scripture, and to to keep that in in a place of remembrance all also, so that we're not we don't get too complacent or or for myself, I guess should say.
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So I don't get complacent and I lose reverence because it's not, hey God, what can you do for me?
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What have you done for me?
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And it it those things are endless, but if I I want to know God and I want to know his character, I want to know everything about him, it's so it's so much bigger than me.
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It's endlessly bigger than me.
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So remembering back to like all the things that God has done.
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Yeah, it's so much bigger that even as you're talking, I'm trying to grasp the right words to even describe that like feeling.
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Because you think about all of these miracles in the Old Testament, and even um God speaking, his manifest presence coming out of the burning bush and speaking to Moses and God being like you stand on holy ground, like these are all things that are very easy for us to almost like we dismiss the reality of the holiness.
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Like we lose our fear of God.
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Yeah.
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The fact that we can come before the throne of glory and even pray to him sometimes so casually, because of the fact that we have the Holy Spirit within us.
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And so I feel like part of maybe why we love the Old Testament so much too is because like we get to see what seems like to us like unusual, miraculous, very supernatural miracles.
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But I feel like if the people of the Old Testament were alive today or they're somehow able to like travel in time, I wonder how they would look at us.
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That it would be equally peculiar and miraculous, and how we can just have the Holy Spirit with like we can just we don't have to go in to the temple, like there doesn't have to be the sacrifice, like yeah, like Kim, you've never sacrificed an animal.
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Yeah, that just what is our what is norm becomes what is normal to us, it becomes so ordinary.
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And it's hard as humans to break out of that box.
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Yeah, I agree.
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And I have um I have uh struggled recently even in the like Lord, don't let me continue to do something because it has become a tradition, or don't let me do it as a routine or tradition.
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Where we where we sit in our comfort, yeah.
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And I've heard this before where it's like now your blessing has become a place of stagnation, and this blessing was never meant to keep you there, yeah.
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You're meant to keep moving forward, yeah.
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And sometimes our blessing does exactly that, it puts us in a place of anti-progress.
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There is a very tiny little girl in the front yard, she's so cute.
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I didn't see her little tiny pigtails and glasses.
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Oh, I know who that is.
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She hangs with the boys at the park.
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She's miniature, she's like, she's age, too.
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Oh, she's so cute.
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She always has the pigtails.
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She had glasses on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I know who that is.
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Um, okay.
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The um I'm gonna skip us forward a couple chapters um and read from Deuteronomy chapter 11, verse 18.
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Next.
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1118 was Kendrick's original due date.
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This is one of my favorite verses.
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I love this.
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I have uh this verse is the reason why I have tattoos on my hands.
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So verse 18 says, You shall therefore lay up these words of mine in your heart and in your soul, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
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19.
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You shall teach them to your children, talking to them when you are sitting in your house, and when you are walking by the way, and when you lie down and when you rise, 20.
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You shall write them on the doorpost of your house and on your gates, that your days and the days of your children may be multiplied in the land that the Lord swore to your fathers to give them, as long as the heavens are above the earth.
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I love that verse so much.
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I uh 19 is I wouldn't say one of my favorites, but one of the verses that spoke to me.
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And I swear I'm not gonna do this to you the whole time of like each year verse, and I'm taking us back to 32, but.
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I actually feel like this is divine.
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So Deuteronomy 32, um 46, he said to them, Take heart to all the words by which I am warning you today, that you may command them to your children, that they may be careful to do all the words of this law.
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47, for it is no empty word for you, but but your very life, and by this word you shall live long in the land that you are going over the Jordan to possess.
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So is Deuteronomy a chiasm?
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It feels like it right now.
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Yeah.
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Because how many chapters are there?
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This is towards the end, and it does feel like it's kind of converging.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That would make sense.
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I think that that's I mean, a lot of the Torah books, the first five books of the Bible, there's chiasms.
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When you remember when you have something, so like I said, the this verse in Deuteronomy 11 is why I have tattoos on my hands, because it says to bind these words to your hand, lay them up in your heart and in your soul.
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It is a don't forget, don't forget, remember me, remember me, remember what I have done.
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Because the minute we stop, the minute we stop, we stop remembering the Lord and remembering what he has done for us, I feel like one of two things happen.
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Either one, we start to pity ourselves, or two, we start to uh idolize ourselves.
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We'll become our own idols.
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That is so good.
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And we say, It all happened because I did it, or nothing good happens to me because you're not remembering all the good things that God has already done for you.
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That's great.
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And also, Deuteronomy is a chiasm, and I love that you picked up on that so quick in us just exchanging these ideas.
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That's pretty cool.
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That's amazing.
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It and it's for it actually that like this is how cool the Bible is.
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Will you explain what a chiasm is?
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Do you have the I'll actually just read it off of this?
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Okay.
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Um I wouldn't be able to explain it off the top of my head, so I would need to like know the concept of it, but like actually giving a definition.
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So it's a literary device where ideas or sections are arranged in a mirrored reverse order pattern.
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So for example, A B C B A.
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So it reads the same way frontwards as it does backwards because it is mirrored.
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And then what is in the center is supposed to be like the central point.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that's what is the center of the Chaiism in Deuteronomy?
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I don't know.
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That's another time.
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Maybe remember the Lord?
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Probably.
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I mean, maybe that's what it kind of feels like here.
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Um never forgetting, because you know, then and well, if then we get the feasts, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, if we were to just like maybe go into the middle here, it might even be something about idolatry, but that kind of coincides with remembering the Lord.
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Oh, it is talks about the laws.
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Sabbatical law, Passover, feast of weeks.
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I feel like you're on to something with remembering the Lord.
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We'll have to dig into this.
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Yeah, this is really great.
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Okay, how fun.
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But I I also do really love that the Lord gave the gave the feasts and told us, told the people.
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I don't know why us like I was because we're part of the body.
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Why?
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That's how bad I want to be Jewish.
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Um, but the these feasts of like, hey, try so hard to remember what I've done for you and who I am and how much I love you that it's seven feasts.
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Seven times a year, you get all of you to get together and eat a meal to remember exactly what that was.
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And why don't we?
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I love, oh, this is nothing to do with what we're talking about, but I love um the that part of messianic Judaism.
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There is a part of messianic Judaism that kind of calls to me because I love the these things, God gave us these things, yeah.
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And like there's do we have to do them?
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No, we don't have to do anything, but I do love the idea of having feasts with in fellowship to purely remember the things that God has done.
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Yeah, and that it's such a celebration, yeah.
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It's not just such a casual God is good, and it's not go have an Easter egg hunt because it's Easter and Jesus died on the cross for you.
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Yeah.
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Look, I'm not trying to be legalistic here.
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I just I just love Jesus and the Easter bunny never did anything for me, okay?
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I mean, we can go down a whole nother, I should say, rabbit hole in this case, with just Hallmark holidays in general, and even with Halloween coming up.
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Like there's a plead the blood of Jesus.
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I mean, even you think about Christmas, and again, to your point, not to be so legalistic, but how we've come away, we've made it, we've added so many extra things that we've lost the focus of the thing.
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So always, yeah.
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That's it's look, we took our eyes off of him.
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Yeah, we're not remembering.
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It's Peter sinking in the water, right?
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Part of it is like, yes, the faith, but then where you have to have your eyes fixed also.
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He takes his eyes off of Jesus for a second, and what is he thinking?
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Oh, he's not thinking, oh, look at the waves.
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Great is your faithfulness, Lord.
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He's thinking, we're in a storm and I'm on water.
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Yeah.
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Look at the waves.
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Yeah.
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I do you have um, if you want to call it, memorials in your life, or even things that represent a memorial in a certain milestone or marker in your life?
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Um, I wish I had more.
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Yeah.
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I I don't have like tangible things.
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Um, I the Lord has blessed me with a very good memory.
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It's not perfect, it's not perfect, but I can remember dates, I can remember thoughts, feelings, conversations, what I was wearing 15 years ago on a certain date, that um is I don't want to say is suffice that sufficing right now.
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It's not.
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Um, but I did want to ask you specifically, or for both of us, to talk about like how do like what what are we doing to remember God, what God has done for us, um, you know, through things like do remembering specific scriptures, experiences that we've lived through ourselves, um, referring back to past prayers.
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I do write some of my prayers, not every single one of them, but remembering past prayers.
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And then even how watching how God has shown up to people we know, shown up for people we know in the body and in the word.
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Yeah.
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I think this is one of the reasons why I love to take notes in my phone, because I mean on the other hand, I will forget and even journaling.
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And so it's really cool to be able to look back on things where I genuinely forget about um whether it's an emotion or a thought that I had, and for me to reflect and be like, wow, I'm not even close to being there anymore, you know, or even um like prayer journals.
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I don't necessarily have a prayer journal, I just have a journal, but to remember the way that God has answered prayers and not even just answered prayers, but has um molded my heart and changed my mind about so many things.
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Like we talked about that, I think, in the last episode, right?
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And like how we're so blessed because he's so merciful that we didn't have to sacrifice or really give up things because he just circumcised our heart.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What are this like your go-to scriptures that you think back to that help you remember?
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Maybe not necessarily like your favorites, or the ones that like, I don't know, just the ones that were that help you remember who God is, what his character is like, or what he's done for you.
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I think different seasons in my life, I have different verses that I'll hold on to as like my power verse.
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Um, but I was just remembering this verse.
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Um in Jeremiah 23, 29, it says, Is not my word like fire, declares the Lord, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces.
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Man.
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And so we talked earlier about like when you read the Bible, yes, it is a lot of history, like true historical facts, but it is also teaching you the care characteristics of God.
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You're getting to know the heart of God.
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Um, and so in this case, this is like one of those words that teaches me like his characteristic and like his power.
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So his word is like fire.
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And I feel like I went back to that because again, I've been an Exodus, and so just thinking about how how God presented himself.
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Sorry, I just had to mom him.
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Like on a side note, I can't have kids in my house when their parents don't know that they're here.
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That is not smart.
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No, that's kind of scary, even with the garage open.
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:54.880
Yeah, actually, she shouldn't be comfortable being in a house that her parents don't know.
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Yeah.
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I'm tempted to go out there, but I'm not going to.
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We can stop for a second if you want to.
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No, I trust that he's gonna tell her that.
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I just heard him.
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But anyway, so speaking of characteristics of God, so God's word is like fire, um, and his word is like a hammer.
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And I think sometimes we give the enemy too much power.
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Uh yes.
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Say that again.
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Yeah, I was just talking about this with a friend, and I feel like we have a tendency to fear the enemy more, whether we want to admit it or not.
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So almost thinking like, oh, the enemy is attacking me, and so this is gonna happen to me.
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Yeah.
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But hold up.
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Let's remember, going back to the word, that he is like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces.
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The enemy is not equipped or able to get in the way of our Lord.
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And we, and so if something happens, a lot of times, guys, it's our fault.
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And not everything is attack of the enemy.
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Yes, he is resistance, he is, he is very real as well.
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But if something is God's plan over your life, talking about remembering, you got to hold on to that and keep that in the forefront of your mind.
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Because if you know that this is God's plan for your life, and you have you've at one point had big faith for it, don't think that the enemy could get in the way of that.
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Yeah.
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And don't run away from your accountability so quickly because there are consequences to our actions.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So again, so sometimes it's us getting in the our own way.
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We're getting in our own way and we're coming into agreement with something that is not of God.
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And so when you have that realization, to also have the belief behind these verses that truly God is a consuming fire, and he has all authority and all power to um burn up anything that's in his way.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know.
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Do not be ignorant of the schemes of the devil.
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Yes.
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Know what is possible, but let's, yeah, please, like it's can we please all stop giving the enemy and anything evil power or authority?
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Like it's you don't have to be scared.
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And then there's another verse, it's in Deuteronomy, um, where it talks about, I think it's in Deuteronomy, the Lord will fight for you.
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Exodus.
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Well, it is there's one in a few different places.
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Actually, the one I'm referring to might be Exodus, but um, like as they're coming out of Egypt, there's another one though.
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.280
But that is, it's all over scripture.
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Yeah.
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:54.880
Another verse where sometimes if I start to feel like overwhelmed, that's another verse of like the Lord God will fight for you.
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:55.920
Yeah, I agree.
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I think back to that one too.
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Like, you don't all you have to do is be still.
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Yeah.
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Is it four?
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I want to say four fourteen, but I I know I just made that up.
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No, well, I thought it was like five, but maybe it's four.
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:16.320
Um, I'm gonna actually just look this up because it is in a few different pa places.
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Well, it's that's part of the characteristics of God.
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Yeah.
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He's fighting for he's fighting for us all the time.
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Like it it shows up in scripture often.
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:32.880
There's more, I think there's it's you can find it in Psalms, in Exodus, and Deuteronomy.
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We can probably find it in the epistles.
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Yeah, so you got four because it's in 14.
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So 14, 14, the Lord will fight for you, and you have only to be silent.
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1414.
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Yeah, so just be silent, the Lord will fight for you.
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Yeah, what's yours?
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:54.159
That's hard.
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.320
Um, I have a couple, okay.
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:06.239
Um, in terms of wanting to remember God specifically, I probably have brought it up on here so many millions of times.
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It's probably gonna be like my next tattoo.
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.719
Um, Deuteronomy chapter 30, verse 6.
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I want to be able to say it from memory, and I do, but I'm worried that maybe I leave out some.
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I know, I hear you, girl.
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Yeah.
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30 what?
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Uh, verse six.
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And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.
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That is, uh, I think about that at least once a day, I want to say, because he is that he is so good that there is this whole book about do this, do this, do this, and above all, love God more than anything else.
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Love God with all your heart, your soul, and your strength.
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Love God first.
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There are no other gods.
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And then at the end of this book, he's like, but I will circumcise your heart, I will remove the flesh from your heart so that you can love me and that you may live.
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:12.079
That's so great.
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.440
I love how we keep cross-referencing each other's verses.
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:29.519
So I told you I was in Jude earlier in the doxology of Jude, it says verse 24, now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy.
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So that basically what you said that he will circumcise the flesh off your heart.
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And what does that do?
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Right here in Jude, verse 24.
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Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and present to you blameless.
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This is after the circumcision of our heart.
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Now we can come before our father blameless.
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How being amen.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:38:07.679
Um I think another verse as we're talking, because you mentioned tattoos, uh, one of the verses that I have is Romans 8 28, and it says, and I don't want to miss a word here, but likewise the spirit helps us in our weakness, for we do not know what to pray for as we ought.
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But this part, the spirit himself intercedes for us on our behalf.
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We're growing too deep for words.
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The spirit himself intercedes for us.
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So Jesus has been, he has suffered here on earth.
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He knows what it looks like and feels like is like to be submersed in this very broken, fallen world around a bunch of broken, fallen people.
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Yeah.
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He has suffered here on earth more than any of us will ever suffer in our life.
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And so that same God, he is interceding for us.
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He is sitting at the right hand of God, interceding, being our advocate.
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Yeah.
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And how much more compassionate, merciful, and gracious.
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Granted, he is God and he is love, you know, he is love.
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But to even think that when he put on the flesh and came down here on earth, to be able to even experience, so how much more compassionate in the way that it's it um it talks about in Matthew before he healed a bunch of sick, like thousands, he looked at them and he was compassionate.
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And so, how much more now as he is seated in the heavenly places, how much more compassionate he is, how much more merciful.
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Even just like that it never ends, he never stops doing for us.
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Yeah, never, yeah, even after the suffering, the brutality, the being here and then healing people, all of the things, giving us the Bible, that he is still doing things for us, yeah.
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That he's still like, and we're forgetting or using Christianity as an aesthetic, like just wanting to be cute.
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:05.280
We're I'm I Frankie said something about me being finger waggy on the podcast.
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So I'm trying to be like cognizant of not being that way, but I do get like I I don't I'm speaking to old Ariana when I when I when I get this convicted.
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I'm not speaking to other people, and I don't want anybody to ever think that like anything I say comes from a place of moral superiority or spiritual superiority.
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I'm I'm ministering to myself because of the frustrations I have with myself for the for the things that I did of the world and and not wanting to I'm not wanting to forget God, wanting to continue to remember God so that I can I can go forward.
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Which brings me to my next verse.
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But I you've got something.
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No, I don't.
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You don't?
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:52.719
No, I'm tracking.
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Okay.
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You look like you found something cool.
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And I don't want to like steamroll you.
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No, go again.
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Okay, and with the making sure one, I think that you've all if you've listened to more than one podcast, you hear Kim and I talk often about how intentional we are with being intentional.
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Like everything is intentional, nothing is for no reason.
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Which is actually why I went to that verse in Deuteronomy, because I was thinking, like, there's nothing that is small.
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Yeah.
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There's nothing that is small.
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Nothing is small.
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And that's even what that verse was speaking to.
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Even in the way that we like when we remember and we're we're thankful for God, like there are the times that he took us out of slavery in Egypt, and then there are the times that he just had somebody smile at us when we were having a bad day.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And like, uh who's to say that one is really sure you feel like more of a relief from not being a slave, right?
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But I don't know, it doesn't like we should, I think, hold all of it with the same amount of weight that like any blessing, anything the Lord does for us is just as is as much of a big deal as like the things that we we make the biggest deals about.
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Yeah, we're because even thinking about, we've talked with our friend, like what are truly gonna be our treasures in heaven?
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And it's not always gonna be the like uh brought this friend to church, they gave their life to Christ, you know?
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It's gonna be the seemingly small things, like showing up as your best even when you didn't feel your best.
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Yeah.
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You know, reading even when you didn't feel like it, feeling your flesh in that moment.
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Yes.
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When it was being annoyed, yeah, and asking for forgiveness in that moment, yeah, or even later.
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Yeah.
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Those things of constantly returning back to Christ.
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I mean, who knows, right?
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So it it it is of no small thing.
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There is of no, definitely no empty word in this book that we call our Bible.
00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:00.480
So I want to read uh Philippians chapter three.
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Verse, I mean, I think I'm gonna start in 10, but I'm gonna be I might be annoying right now.
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I'm gonna read this in three different uh translations because I like it in three different I like it in everything, but I just I think it gives you it, it gives uh some extra, I don't know, light and depth.
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Thank you, thank you.
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Um, I'm gonna start in the amplified classic.
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If I can get to the verse.
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Okay, I'll start in 10.
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For my my determined purpose is that I may know him, that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of his person more strongly and more clearly, and that I may, in that same way, come to know the power outflowing from his resurrection, which it exerts.
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Over believers, and that I may so share his sufferings as to be continually transformed in spirit into his likeness, even to his death, in the hope that if if possible I may attain to the spiritual and moral resurrection that lifts me out from among the dead, even while in my body.
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Chapter 12.
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Now that I have, not that I have now attained this ideal or have already been made perfect, but I press on to lay hold of and make my own, that for which Christ Jesus the Messiah has laid hold of me and made me his own.
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I do not consider, brethren, that I have captured and made it my own yet, but one thing I do is it is one aspiration, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead.
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Say with me, last verse.
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I press on toward the goal to win the supreme and heavenly prize to which God in Christ Jesus is calling us upward.
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So I won't make everybody listen to all of that again in both in the other versions, but I do want to read it in the NLT.
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Okay.
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Also, okay, Philippians chapter three.
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I'm gonna do verses 13 and 14.
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13.
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Actually, I'll start at 12.
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You guys just love the Bible.
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Follow me.
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Um, I don't mean to say that I have already achieved these things or that I have already reached perfection, but I press on to possess that perfection for which Christ Jesus first possessed me.
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No, dear brothers and sisters, I have not achieved it, but I focus on this one thing: forgetting the past and looking forward to what lies ahead.
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I press on to reach the end of the race and receive the heavenly prize for which God, through Christ Jesus, is calling us.
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And then the next verse is good too.
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Verse 15 let us all who are spiritually mature agree on these things.
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If you disagree on some point, I believe God will make it plain to you.
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Come on.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Hallelujah.
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That verse 15, let those of us who are mature think this way.
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And if anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that to you.
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Is so good.
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That's actually a really sobering reminder.
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Yeah.
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If someone disagrees with you about something and maybe more of a secondary matter, not something that's complete heresy, you know, but um to encourage them to take it to the Lord and to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth.
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Yeah.
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Even for me too.
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Yeah.
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For I think I need that every day.
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Right.
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I I love this what Paul has written, the like the intentionality through remembering God and forgetting ourselves.
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Yeah.
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And not just forgetting ourselves, but forgetting the who we were before we knew God, before we knew Jesus, before we were changed, like, and not to forget to never talk about it, but to forget so that it doesn't keep us from pressing forward and continuing to run the race.
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That's great.
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Praise God.
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The thing that I was trying to remember earlier as you were talking, it came to me.
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I love how you're like forgetting the old so that you can continue to press on.
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:03.119
So I thought on that note, this is so interesting.
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So in the book of Jude, Jude is actually Jesus' half-brother.
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They come from the same mom.
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Obviously, Jesus didn't have an earthly father.
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Um, Jude, in the beginning of so in this is an epistle, it's a letter.
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In the beginning, he introduces himself and he doesn't say, Jude, uh, the brother of Jesus.
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He says, Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James, to those who are called beloved in God, the Father, and kept for Jesus Christ.
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May mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.
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He identifies himself as not being uh holding this title of parading the fact that that's my brother.
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That's my brother.
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That was my big bro, right?
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Yeah.
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And instead, he says, What?
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I am a servant of Jesus Christ.
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So he is now realizing he is forgetting the old relationship that he had with him.
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And instead, he is holding on to his new identity to him, that he is a servant of Jesus Christ.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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And he is pressing forward in that way.
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I am no longer this earthly brother of the Son of God.
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Yeah.
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He is holy, he is the Messiah.
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I am a servant to him.
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Yes.
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Say that.
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Like that part just in partnership with what you just read out of Philippians.
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And I even like, I'll admit this.
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Like when I came across this verse, like earlier on when I came back to Christ, I took, I remember using that verse out of context.
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In what way?
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:55.679
Um, I think I was using it to encourage people to um to press forward in in doing what like your worldly ambition is.
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Oh.
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But this is like keep going, glad.
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:01.679
Yeah, exactly.
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But this is not encouraging us to press on toward our goal.
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It's encouraging us to press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus, pressing on in your salvation, pressing on in like the kingdom work that's here on earth.
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:21.920
Yes, Kendrick.
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.199
Can I um give Eah one of my Pokemon books like my Yeah, that's a very nice idea.
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:29.119
A whole box.
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:30.000
Not right now.
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:34.159
Mommy is still recording, and what you're asking is not like super, super important right now.
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:34.480
Okay.
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:35.360
Thank you.
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:38.159
Not right now.
00:50:42.800 --> 00:51:01.840
There are things that I hear, I think we can all agree, regardless of I think most people can, where um where you are on your walk with Jesus or in your beliefs at all, that it is you relate to people based on their failures, not on their accomplishments.
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Yeah.
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And you bond with people over those things.
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And I don't think that the that this is saying forget as in push it out of your mind and let it go away.
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It's forget it because um forgetting means dismissing from your mind and or paying no attention to forget in this way is is to stop dwelling on it.
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:57.360
So stop dwelling on who you used to be, the thing that you did, and dwell on Jesus, to not be tethered to your old identity, yeah, to um prevent being consumed by any type of condemnate condemnation from those times you were lost in sin and you were still blind.
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:04.639
And I think because of that, that also positions us to be more gracious to other people, you know?
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Um and to not constantly hold someone to what they what they did in the past.
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Also, let's not rob the glory that is supposed that we should be giving to the Lord and like look at what the Lord has done.
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Look at how he changed me, he saved me, that I was dead and I can now live.
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I have eternal life in Jesus.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's doing a new thing in us, is the point.
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:48.639
So I I love that that the clarity you made though, and forgetting because um there is something beautiful when you do remember what you were called out of, you know.
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.519
I think a lot of times we say, like, oh, I used to be there.
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I know what that's like, because I know what it's like to be there.
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Um, but in the sense of like not being tethered to your sin because he forgives us as far as the east is from the west.
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Yeah.
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So removes our sin that far.
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Which is I I sat on that verse for a long time once, and I'm like, make it like make it make sense.
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Like, I'm like looking at like thinking about a globe, like as far as the east is from the west, like, is this a distance?
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.800
But I think the west will never reach the east, and vice versa.
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:25.920
That's the point, right?
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:29.199
Yes, yeah, that it's like endlessly separated.
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.159
Yeah, that's I love that explanation.
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:41.599
Um, and then it kind of goes back to us believing and accepting that what Jesus did on the cross is complete.
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It is, period.
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That was gonna be what I was gonna leave this on.
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:46.239
Okay, yeah.
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:55.519
That in how like the constant reminder and where I I bring myself back to is John 1930.
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It is finished.
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.800
It is finished, it's it is been it is finished.
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Everything is paid for, your debt has been paid for, the enemy has been crushed, it's finished.
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:09.599
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:10.559
Amen.
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Thank you, Jesus.
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:13.280
Amen.
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Because imagine being like, I forgive you, but every time something happens, be like, remember when you did that?
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.760
How gosh, how frustrating that would be.
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Could you imagine that is the least like Christ, right?
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You think that that you ever hear that?
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Remember when you did that thing, unless it is to for you to express grace to another person.
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I don't think that's coming from our Heavenly Father.
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:39.360
Yeah.
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:51.119
You said something in the very beginning of this episode when you said, um, so to remember and then to forget certain things, but if you what did you say?
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If you it keeps you from your pride consuming you, or and then the other thing I feel like I if I'm remembering this correctly, um I think what I said or what I was saying is if you don't remember God, if you forget God and you start to you take God out of sentences and you start putting yourself into it, and it'll start being like, I did this, I got here.
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Look at everything I've done, taking glory from the Lord.
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Was that it?
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Yes.
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And versus the other will cause you to just give glory to God, cause you to remember.
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Remembering what God has done, and that apart from him, we can do no good.
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:43.920
Yeah, yeah.
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I I love how you said that in the beginning.
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That stuck with me.
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I'll probably honestly re-listen to this one.
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:58.159
There was lots of, I feel like, solid takeaways, just even with the different verses in scripture that we read.
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.079
This was, yeah, I I want to go back and reread Deuteronomy.
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:02.960
Yeah.
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.559
I am so behind on my Bible reading plan right now, though.
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I don't know if I can afford to.
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Yeah.
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:09.840
I'm gonna have to wait.
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.320
I've been rereading on lots of things, though.
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:14.320
Kind of, I and I think we should.
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I think that is the point.
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And I think that is the beautiful thing about not understanding everything in the Bible because it will constantly have you going back to the word.
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Yeah.
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That's what we need to do.
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And I think that's part of some of these hardships that we go through.
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Even the thorn that Paul speaks about, it keeps us humble so that we're constantly going back to the Lord.
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:45.760
Because now, full circle, going back to what we talked about, you know, if you're just living a super prosperous life all the time, yeah, you might forget who actually where that actually came from.
00:56:46.159 --> 00:57:01.119
Just remember, remember God and remember the importance of his word, like like the verse from Deuteronomy, like these words have them laid up in your heart and in your soul, yeah, bound to your hands, yeah, and on carried on your forehead.
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:01.760
Yeah.
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.400
Um, I talk with a lot of conviction about most things.
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:11.280
If I really love something, I talk about, I talk about it a lot and I talk about it with a lot of weight.
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I love Jesus.
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I love talking about the things of God.
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So I talk with a lot of conviction, but I'm a human being who can and does and has and will say things incorrectly.
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.199
Your theology should not come from the through it podcast.
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:32.400
Your theology should not come from me.
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:36.159
Um, it goes to your Bible.
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Your theology should come from the source.
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Yeah.
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Yes, the perfect word of God.
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I think too, like we're both passionate when we feel some kind of way, which is why how you said that, Frankie, you said that you have like sometimes you come across as being like finger, like pointing and shaking.
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Yeah.
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I I think it comes from just like your deep convictions.
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Cause I'll say that too.
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Sometimes when I talk to Jordan, it comes across that I'm like mad at him.
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Yeah.
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Or that not even mad at him, but like mad, but I'm not.
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I'm just very moved and feel strongly.
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And then at the end of it, I have to roll myself back in and be like, one, thanks for listening, but I'm not mad.
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I just feel real strongly about this particular matter.
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And so do I relate?
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You know, and but and that's the thing though, like when we speak of gosh, I don't want to keep going and going, but even like in prayer, this is why sometimes it comes out the way it does because I do a lot of times I want to shake people.
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Yeah.
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But same going back to that verse that we read, like we have to trust that God will reveal the truths, that the spirit of truth will really lead people.
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But again, it's like, do I say something?
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Do I not say something?
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Should I say something?
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Should I not say something?
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Lord, teach me when.
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Yeah, and that's when we need to lean on the Holy Spirit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Shut my mouth when I am not aligned with you.
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I think sometimes he's like, just let it flap, Ryan, and you'll pay for it later.
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Yeah.
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And and then it's like, at the end of the day, though, God does there's a divine design over us, and we all have gifts that have been graciously given to us, and we don't want to quench those either.
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No, I'm I believe that my gifts come from my mouth.
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Yeah.
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I I think that that's where that's where the Lord is grace the that's where the Lord decides to use I don't know how to say it.
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It's a gifting of the Holy Spirit.
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It is, and there's a reason why it there's so many times, a handful of times, where um even in Revelation where it draws this picture, the sword of the spirit coming out of his mouth.
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Those are words.
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The sword of the spirit being his word.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And our we can our giftings can we can flesh them up.
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They're not always perfect.
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Like even what is that?
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Oh, that story.
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I want to say it's in Chronicles or Kings.
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It's probably not.
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About the prophet who meets the young prophet, and he's like, Come have dinner at my house.
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And the young prophet's like, No, God told me not to eat bread or drink water.
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And the other prophet, who is a prophet, lies to him and said, God told me it's okay.
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You can come.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then what happens?
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Right.
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Because he lied.
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Yeah.
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So you can flush up your.
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The point is, don't trust me, read your Bible.
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Read your Bible.
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Yeah.
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Trust God only.
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Be discerning.
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Read your word.
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We talked for too long.
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And now we gotta get ready to do a prayer night.
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Yeah.
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Which I'm super excited for.
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And I actually think this conversation is gonna help carry us into what we're doing later today in prayer.
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So I'm actually really grateful for this.
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Me too.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Jesus.
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Yeah.
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I'll pray.
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Okay.
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Father, thank you.
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Father, I pray that my thank yous do not become a ritual or a tradition, Lord.
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I pray that you keep me in a place where I can keep my eyes fixed on you, remembering you and the good things that you have done always, and that every thank you that comes from my mouth, Lord, is genuine and full of genuine things from a true place and a true heart, Lord.
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I pray that for your body, Lord, that we don't get wrapped up in tradition, that we don't get wrapped up in routine, Lord, and we don't normalize what is holy, Father.
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I pray that you increase the reverence that we have for you, Lord, for the whole body, that we don't walk around like ostriches with our heads in the sand, Father, but that we open our eyes and we we fixate our eyes on you, Father, by going to the word.
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I pray that you give each one of us, myself included, Lord, a double portion of hunger and thirst for more of you, Lord Jesus.
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Give us more capacity for the hunger and the thirst for more of you, Lord.
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I thank you for everything that you have done in my life, Lord.
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I thank you that I can point to you and I can look back and say you were there and you were there and you were there before I even knew, and before I even have the had the words or the language to give you the credit, Father.
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I ask that you forgive me for the times that I have taken the credit away from you.
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I pray that you forgive me for that.
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And I thank you that that it's your strength that carries me forward, Lord.
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Thank you.
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I pray for all of our listeners, Father, that they all increase, that they all get the double portion of hunger and thirst for more of you, Father.
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Let us not be blind.
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I pray that the the seeds that have been planted, that they begin to be watered and then to you start growing them, Lord, that the the seeds start to shake and that the buds start to bloom, Father, and that they go, they grow straight into your vine, Father.
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Thank you that you are the source and that apart from you we can do no good.
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In Jesus' name, amen.
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Amen.
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Beautiful.