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Now use your host, Rob McConnell, and welcome back. This is the
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Our guest this hour is a young
lady that's going to be talking to
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us who is a trained psychic and
a spiritual medium. Now, Nancy,
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how do you pronounce your family name? Nobody ever gets it right, so
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it's technically tet, but nobody gets
that, so it's going to end up
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being do turtre, do art do
turt or. I also answer to two
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turtles if all else fails. All
right, so if I call you Nancy,
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do tet am I right, Yes, that's actually quite good. Well,
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that's not too bad for a French
guy. So your name means Nancy
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of the head. No, that
that would be a latte. This is
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ju tetre, which means from the
small hill. Oh, the small hill.
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All right, so tell us a
little bit about yourself. Where should
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I start? Well, what little
small hill did you come from? I
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didn't, but my husband did.
My husband is French, and actually I
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had become French in the years,
so I didn't come to the small hill
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I came from. I've lived all
of the United States. I've lived in
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England, France, and Germany.
We moved a lot when I was a
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kid, and I became a businesswoman, then became an attorney, practicing in
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New York. For close to a
decade, I practiced security litigation. And
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then I did this kind of strange
detour in my life and I started to
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write a book about what I thought
it was going to be, the psychology
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of intuition. And when I started
to look for the literature of all the
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psychologists and psychiatrists, they didn't want
to deal with intuition, and they were
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calling it things like empathy or resonant
empathy, or transference or countertransference in other
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ways. I know what those things
are, and none of them are intuition,
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and so they didn't want to deal
with intuition. So I studied a
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bunch of neuroscience. I thought maybe
they would have the answers they didn't want
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to deal with it, and then
I sort of went and I tried to
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find anybody who knew something about it, and that's what led me to psychics,
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psychic detectives, mediums, medical intuitives, military programs, just all kinds
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of stuff. Artists, poker players, you name it. And I realized
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at a certain point that if I
was going to write about this thing called
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intuition, that I had to understand
it on a very basic experiential level.
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So I trained it, and I
trained as a psychic detective for about ten
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years, and that's what I do. I also trained in military style remote
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viewing techniques, so I'm trained in
several different types of remote viewing and I've
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also developed my own type of remote
viewing that I called TSP. Now,
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who did you study you remote viewing
front with the military. I studied with
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Lynn Buchanan and my mentor was in
Goo Swan, Okay, why did you
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decide to become a psychic um?
Well, I didn't decide to. In
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fact, I was fighting it the
whole way because you know, I grew
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up in a very academic family,
very left brained. Nobody believed in that
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stuff. I certainly didn't believe in
it, and so I didn't decide to
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be that way. I I'm just
a curious person. I like learning,
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you know, about different people and
different ways of thinking. So I realized
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at a certain point when I was
sort of involved in these training things that
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I was pretty good at it.
And people would tell me that and I
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would laugh at them because I thought
it was ridiculous. And at a certain
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point I realized, well, it's
time to either accept this, you know,
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I'd I'd be silly not to accept
it. I have enough proof already,
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And when you're an attorney, you
kind of like proof. You like
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evidence. But how do you go
from being an attorney to being a psychoicd
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of remote viewer. Apparently not too
many people take that pathway it takes.
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It's really hard to explain. When
you have to change the way that you
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look at everything and the way that
you process all types of thinking. It
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takes a lot of courage. And
my biggest issue was always making a fool
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of myself because I don't like that, and I particularly you know, as
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somebody who I'm very analytic, and
so when you're analytic, you can always
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kind of reverse engineer you're thinking.
You can take it back and say,
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well, the reason why I got
there is because this is this, this
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and is all logical at all makes
sense and you can prove it to other
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people. When you get into the
psychic realm, you can't prove anything.
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There is no way to reverse engineer
this because there is no logic, because
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you're not dealing with a linear,
sequential type of thinking. The only way
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that you can prove it is by
feedback. So feedback, particularly in different
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types of remote viewing, becomes really
important. And that's how you could say
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to yourself, well, okay,
I'm on the right track. I get
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it, and I'm not a complete
fool. How would you describe psychic intuition?
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I describe well, let me put
it this way. I describe intuition
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on a kind of a sliding scale, because I think a lot of times
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what people have done is they've separated
out intuition that we all kind of know
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and we all get it from this
crazy psychic stuff, And for me,
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from what I've learned, it's all
on the same sliding scale, but you
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have different ratios of two different components, two different variables, conscious to unconscious
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awareness of say, let's say the
facts or the situation, and then rational
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irrational thoughts. So if you start
on the really conservative side, you have
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educated guesses which we all get and
pretty much even you know, scientists and
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business people, and they all understand
that educated guess is you're just missing maybe
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a link or two, and you're
in being absolutely under certain about something.
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You get into the kind of the
middle of this sliding scale of intuition,
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and you get into the realm of
things that are like gut feelings and hunches.
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It's very the emotions start to have
a certain weight in your understanding about
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life, right, and you're missing
more data and it's more unconscious all right.
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And then finally get out to the
the most liberal end, let's call
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it, which is the psychic realm. And in that realm you're dealing with
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sometimes it's completely irrational and sometimes it's
completely not within your conscious awareness. And
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that's tough. I mean, if
you're a rational thinker, that is really
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hard to go there. So it'd
be fair to say you had to reinvent
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yourself totally. Absolutely. I thought
about a minute and a half before I
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have to go to my first break. What was the biggest change in your
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life when you decide to, if
you'll excuse you expression, come out of
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the closet with your with your with
your desires to be part of the paradormal
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world end a psychic. What was
the thing that changed the mode? I
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think I really started believing in myself. I think, for as much as
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you can go around the world and
think that you trust yourself, you don't
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trust yourself until you are completely flying
blind. And what it enabled me to
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do was to become a better lawyer, a better human being. I'm better
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in psychology, I'm better in a
whole lot of things because it put me
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on what I call this super highway
of information. Nancy, please to involve
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you when I have to take our
first break extornation. Our guest this hour
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is Nancy, and if you'd like
to get more information about Sandy, visit
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her website www dot The Skeptical Psychic
dot com and Nancy and I will be
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back. Well there. I love
that song. Thanks Greig, Nancy and
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I will be back on the other
side of this break as we continue here
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in the X Zone from our broadcast
center in studio in Hamilton, Ontario,
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Canada. Don't forget. You can
always get the current edition of the X
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Chronicles newspaper with our compliments that has
read around the world at www dot x
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Chronicles newspaper dot com. I'm Rob
McConnell. Don't go away. Nancy is
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our special guess. She is the
skeptical psychic. And why are you known
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as the skeptical psychic? But it's
not obvious. Yeah, no, skeptical
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because when you start out on the
other side of the fence, you don't
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believe, you never had any experience
with this kind of stuff, and you
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kind of don't want to go there
because you don't really trust it or you're
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nervous about it. Right, Yeah, you're skeptical, but it's a it's
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a good kind. It's not what
I call the religious skeptics. And by
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that I mean zealots. I mean
people who their go to primary position is
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I don't believe, therefore it doesn't
exist. Well, you know that's that's
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their right to believe that way,
isn't it. Yeah, absolutely, and
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by the way, coming from that
other side of defense, I have a
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huge amount of compassion for people who
don't get it. I spend a lot
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of my time trying to explain how
and why this works. And in fact,
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I've written a book called Psychic Intuition, which explains, in terms of
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neuroscience, psychology, and linguistics,
how we all start out with these abilities,
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why we all lose them, or
most of us lose them, and
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how we can get them back again. Because I'm just a trained person,
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I can I understand. I understand
your voyage that you took in getting to
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the conclusions that you have gotten to. But if it is sole legitimate,
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how come it isn't a recognize part
of the scientific psyche of that we people
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have. Oh yeah, well,
that's for exactly the reason that I've been
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talking about, which is your typical
left brained people, your analytic intellect,
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actual scientific whatever people, They have
only learned how to process thinking in one
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particular way, which is very sequential. It's linear. We get that way
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because we start out learning language language. Literally, let me make that kind
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of time. But I don't get
it. Let me ask you this thing.
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If we are all born with it. Why doesn't it all stay with
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us because we get trained out of
it Because our brains start to In most
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people, the left hemisphere is dominant. Okay, okay, So your right
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hemisphere, which is your holistic side, your non analytics side, and tends
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to be your more psychic data side, gets wiped out. And they've done
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studies, you know, they for
a long time did the split brain studies,
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and they showed that if the for
example, the left brain was shown
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an item. Let's say a fabric
was a particular color, and let's say
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it's a green fabric, but they
use the word blue, and they put
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the word blue underneath, and only
your left hemisphere sees it, it will
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say, oh that's a blue item. Is it's shown to the right hemisphere
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and does not have a word attached
to it, it'll say green. Okay.
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We have disagreements inside our brain all
the time. But because the left
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hemisphere, which is also where most
of our language is located, um,
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it dominates, so that part of
our entire reality literally I mean literally disappears.
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Then how come other other things that
we are born with are not wiped
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out? For example, oh,
they are a seal on here what about
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talking? What about walking? What
about cognizant reactions that we have? Why
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is it only the psychic that has
wiped out and not these other traits that
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we're born with. No there are
people have suggested, for example, that
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we're all born with perfect pitch and
it gets wiped out. We're born with
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certain abilities to learn other languages.
Most of these abilities get wiped out between
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roughly the ages of three and six, and they get wiped out because our
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language becomes dominant. So the way
that I have explained this is that instead
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of experiencing the world as if everything
is unique and singular, you know,
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and you have no way to compare
it to anything, what we start to
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do is we start to use metaphors, we store. Everything becomes relative to
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something else. Okay, so everything
then becomes an abstract thought. So we
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lose our ability to experience the world
literally like a baby. Okay, babies
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just experienced everything like it's first time
ever. They have no way to compare
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it to anything. And a lot
of the psychic data that we get comes
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into our our bodies and into our
brains as um. We can't identify it.
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We've never we don't have anything to
compare it to it comes in as
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nonsense. And if with our very
developed linguistic brains, we can't compare the
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psychic data to anything, it disappears
from our reality, then how come some
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people retain it? Um? I
think some people are encouraged to retain it,
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you know, the way that their
families bring them up, you know,
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and they acknowledge certain things, and
and other families they don't you think
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it were you encouraged? Oh?
Absolutely not, no, no, no
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no. I come from a very
academic family. My father was a scientist,
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internationally recognized scientists, and my mother
comes from a very academic family.
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So now this stuff didn't exist.
Did you, looking back as a child,
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have any psychic experiences? You know? I think I maybe had two
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that I can remember. One of
them I recall. I think I was
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about I must have been about thirteen
years old or so, and I was
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over to friend's house and we were
talking about ghosts, you know how like
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teenage young teenage kids talk about ghosts. Oh that's you know, so much
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fun. And we got called down
for dinner. We go into their h
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My friend it was, her name
was Beth, it was They were all
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inning dinner watching TV. And I
wasn't allowed to watch TV at that time
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in my life, and so I
really didn't know what was all on or
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didn't to expect. But there was
a this woman who comes out on the
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TV. She I don't know she. I think she was holding a platter
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or something. And I knew immediately
what she was about to say. And
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I said what she was about to
say, and then she said it.
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And because even at that age,
I was kind of, you know,
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I was an analytical type of kid. So was it the lady? What
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was I am a little confused here? Was it the lady on TV that
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you knew what was going to say? Or the lady in the house?
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The lady on TV? How do
you explain that? Well, that's what
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I was trying to figure out when
I was thirteen. So I said to
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my friend, I said, oh, you know in my head, because
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I asked myself, how how could
you know something that you can't know?
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So in my head I had heard
her father's voice saying what this woman was
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going to say? And so I
said to my little friend, Bapitt said,
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well, did you did your father
say that? Is that? Could
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I have you know? Somehow,
and she said, well, actually I
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think he was, but it was
long before you came over the house.
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He was talking about that particular show
and he had made some comment about whatever
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that you know that this woman on
the TV was saying, it's a stupid
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and complex little story and it didn't
make any sense to me. All I
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remember is thinking, I was thinking, there's no way in my reality that
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would have allowed me to have that
information, and that was so confusing to
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me. I stuffed it in the
you know, does not compute box in
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my brain and I left it there
then, I mean, and over the
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then I had a mediumship type experience. I had a which I couldn't explain
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either, didn't know what to do
with that, stuffed it in the same
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little place in my brain and forgot
about it. But other than that,
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no, I mean, I just
wasn't one of those kids who grew up,
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you know, seeing spirits and predicting
and doing all that kind of stuff.
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But it's all trainable, and I
know it's trainable. I understand that
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you have an interest in uphology and
aliens. I do. I also knew
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that one either. How did that
come about? How did that come about?
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that the really important or the the
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time when I finally said to myself, well, there's no getting around this.
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One was when I went to a
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and I went with my daughter,
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have been about I don't know,
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we saw we saw the movie.
It was Woody Allen's Midnight in Paris,
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which is all about going backwards in
time, by the way, And we
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got out of the movie and there
was nobody in the movie theater. I've
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never seen that before. Nobody maybe
one employee, but I even I'm not
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so sure about that, but there
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this parking lot, into a big
it's a big shopping wall. It's a
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big, flat, open area,
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daughter pointed up in the sky and
she said, what's that? And she
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I look up and about five hundred
two thousand feet up in the air there's
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a massive about twenty to thirty orange
lights. And we all know nobody,
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I mean airplanes are using white,
blue or red. There's nobody uses orange.
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like bouncing lights from somewhere on the
ground and their bounce hang off of clouds
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and reflecting. But there was no
cloud cover and there were no beams of
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light being bounced off of anything.
And the closer we looked at this,
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why you could make at it was
a boomerang shaped craft. It was the
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size of a football field and it
was sitting there doing nothing. All right,
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a cliffhanger here. I have to
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take my news break at the bottom
of the hour. XO Nation. Our
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guest this hour is Nancy Tetra.
I hope I'm saying that right, And
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Nancy and I will be back on
the other side of this break as we
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continue here in the X Zone from
our broadcast center in studios in Hamilton,
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Ontario, Canada. If you'd like
to visit Nancy online, her website is
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the Skeptical Psychic dot Com. I'm
Rob McConnell. This is the X Zone.
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Don't go away, Welcome back.
Explanation. Nancy to thirty three is
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our special guest and she is a
trained psychic and spiritual medium. She wasn't
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born that way, and if she
was she doesn't remember it. She believes
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we all have the capability of tuning
into the supernatural once we unlearn our logical
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processes and learn to trust the profoundly
irrational processes of our mind. She loves
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evidence of the supernatural or paranormal,
but doesn't get stuck on the concept.
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Learning how to trust the information that
comes in a non verbal, disorganized,
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fragmented fashion is not easy. You
have to trust your insight, otherwise this
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kind of data is quickly dismissed by
the brain. But you must then try
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to verify your information. Now,
this means that you must exist in a
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very uncomfortable mental place of being both
a believer and a skeptic at the same
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time. This process will lead you
to the truth. Nancy spent lifetime attempting
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to master this strange balancing act.
Or website is the Skeptical Psychic dot com.
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And before we went to the newsbreak, Nancy, you were telling us
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about that you and your daughter went
to see a Woody Allen movie. It
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was very strange. There were very
few people in the theater. You walk
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out into the parking lot, look
up. Your daughter looks up, points
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at a very strange object in the
sky orange lights, later identified as a
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boomerang shaped object. So take it
from there. Yeah, And my daughter
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started to say, let's go,
let's go, let's get out of here.
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And she really freaked out when she
saw it, and I said,
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no, I have to fear what
this thing is, what does it do?
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What the heck is it? And
eventually a very large white luminescent orb
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sort of telescoped open off of the
one of these the wings of this boomerang
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shaped football field sized craft, and
it detached. It started moving around in
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the sort of croacute fashion, like
it was looking for something. It went
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behind the craft, came back over
the top, redocked, and then disappeared
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in sort of a blink. And
at some point they craft either cloaked or
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demterialized in three phases, starting with
the tips of these the wings, or
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I guess you would call another boomerang, and then the center and the very
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center, and poof, it was
gone. And then oh something important part
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is after that we went back.
We didn't discuss it. I said,
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how about to my daughter, I
said, how about we try and draw
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what we both saw before we tell
each other. So we both in color
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drew what we saw it was identical, and for the next year and a
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half we began to receive extremely strange
telephone call interruptions, and I believe they
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were aliens contacting us after that event. Why you, oh, I have
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no idea, And frankly, I
don't think it has too much to do
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with me at all. I think
that some people, well no, I'm
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going to clarify that some people do
see these craft and some people can be
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looking directly at them and they don't
see them at all. So yes,
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in that sense, Okay, maybe
because I've trained myself now to see things
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that maybe my left brain wouldn't be
able to identify. What happens if your
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left what happens if your right brain
is wrong, Well, your left brain
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can be wrong too. I mean, we could be wrong all the time.
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I understand that, But I just
ask you, what happens if your
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right brain is wrong? Well,
then what happens? I mean, all
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I know is that it was confirmed
by my daughter. She was also witnessed.
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We both drew the same thing,
which would tend to confirm it.
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We both saw the same thing and
experienced it, and then we both got
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the same telephone interruptions. Didn't matter
whether you know what combination landlines or cell
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phones or whatever we were using.
And eventually some of her friends heard it,
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and some of my friends and clients
heard it. What kind of interruptions
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were they? What would happen is
we'd be having a normal conversation all of
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a sudden there would be a very
weird, deep electronic male sounding voice that
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would start talking. And as soon
as it started talking, we couldn't hear
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each other, but we could both
hear it. And I don't know what
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language it was speaking. It sounded
like it was coming through huge amounts of
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like wave distortion. Um it would
speak, and when it was done speaking,
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one time I did say my daughter's
name, by the way, that
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was the only recognizable thing. It
would stop and then it would disconnect both
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of us simultaneously, and then neither
one of us would be able to call
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back the other for usually five or
ten minutes. And as I said,
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that went on for a year and
a half. Now, where was it
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you saw this UFO craziest thing?
I mean, the New Jersey, United
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States, five minutes from my house. All right? It is that?
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Is it a major city? At
what time? No? No, no,
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no, not at all. I
mean, I this is roughly say,
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a half hour drive outside of New
York City, okay. And what
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time of night was it? It
was eleven forty five pm. Were there
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any other reports of UFO was made
to the authorities or to the media that
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night. Well, my daughter when
we got back, she said, well,
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we have to we have to call
the police and we're this. So
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she picked up the phone and I
said, you know, Selene, maybe
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put the phone down for a sec. Let's let's consider this one carefully.
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I said, what exactly are you
going to tell them? And she thought
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about she didn't know what she was
gonna tell them. I said, well,
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how about this, how about you
asked them, if you're insisting on
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calling them, asked them if anybody's
reported seeing anything strange in the skytie nights,
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which he did, and of course
nobody had, even though it's right
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on it's on a highway, so
you would think somebody would have seen something.
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I then, for the first time
in my life, started going through
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I realized that they're reporting sites and
organizations for UFOs, which I had no
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clue because I wasn't into this.
And I started I did see that there
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had been some reports in a neighboring
town that night, roughly that period of
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time, where they had seen some
kind of a craft nothing like what we
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saw, though, coming in our
direction. The area where the where the
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sighting was made by you and your
daughter, was it in a high air
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traffic control area or controlled area?
No, not really, Um, they're
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they're no that you have Newark Airport. Newark Airport is roughly, I don't
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know, a half hour away.
Their planes don't generally fly over our area.
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There's a couple of small airports,
but nothing significant. How did that
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sighting change your life? Oh well, if all of a sudden you realize
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there's a possibility of non human intelligent
species and um, that they're interacting with
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us, and they're interacting intelligently and
have the capability to cut into phone conversations,
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potentially read your mind, um,
get into your dreams, transact you
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know with you. They can change
your reality. Uh so so overnight,
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virtually, I mean everything changes.
It expands your entire concept of what is.
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I understand you've written a book how
to Talk to an Alien? Yeah,
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yeah, well that sort of that
grew out of my interest in being
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contacted that way. Um, so
I got interested in trying to figure out,
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you know, who is trying to
communicate with us, and one are
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the various types of ways in which
non humans intelligences can communicate. And so
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I researched it a lot, and
I kind of discovered that there are probably
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many different species They are communicating not
only in human languages, but in alien
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languages, and not just us in
this sort of sequential language that we all
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deal in, but they also communicate
in very non durable, sometimes telepathic ways.
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So it's kind of it's it's a
huge area. And I was shocked
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because hardly anybody had ever talked about
this before. I only found one one
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serious researcher in the field, and
who was that. His name was his
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psychiatrist from the Steady Delawares name was
doctor Mario Pasiglini, and he had basically
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gathered I don't know, maybe one
hundred or so different writing samples from contactees,
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and he had broken down the different
types of writing samples into three different
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categories what he called dot in line, cursive or script style, and geometric
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style for the different types of writing
or alphabets that they have. And I've
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found that to be a really useful
kind of a guideline, a good starting
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point, although I think that there
are more types than that. So what
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message do you think the aliens are
trying to give you depends who you talk
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to. As you've got you've got. I think some that are trying to
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well, the most obvious is save
the environment, or save the world from
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destruction of humans by humans. Save
the world from tearing certain dimensional fabrics.
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Humans need to start understanding, you
know, their own violent tendencies. I
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understand these are wonderful messages, but
why don't they the aliens give these messages
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to the people who can actually make
these changes happen. The people in hour,
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the people in government, the leaders
of churches. I think you know
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that that was probably attempted. Um, they say that that was attempted.
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Certainly in the US was Eisenhower,
who may have cut some deals. Well,
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you're talking about the MJ twelve papers
here. Well, okay, listen,
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we've got to take a break.
We'll be right back. This is
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the XON. I am Rob McConnell. Our guest of this hour is a
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Nancy to thir three and her website
The Skeptical Psychic dot Com. We'll be
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back on the other side of this
break as we wrap up this hour here
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in the X zone, don't go
away. And so you had are you
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finding commonalities across the board in the
languages, the alien languages that you've studied.
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What I Yes, there are some, but I have to tell you
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I am extremely frustrated not to find
more. And I because that sort of
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bothers my whole sense of well,
you know, how many groups are out
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there that are communicating in the same
language versus are it? Does this stem
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from the imagination of the human and
so it bugs me when I can't find
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more commonalities in the language. But
yes, I would say what I did
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talk about in my book How I
Talked to an Alien is I talked about
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four different cases where I found matches
from let's see, it was an American
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American guy in Florida, British woman, a couple of Japanese kids, and
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there was oh and a Brazilian man. Okay, so there are people all
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over the world, different time periods
when they got this particular type of writing.
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It was the dot and line style
of writing, and they do seem
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to be certain commonalities in it.
The problem is you're not necessarily dealing with
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you know, like a Latin alphabet, you know, or twenty six letters
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or anything like that. And sometimes
I've seen certain types of writing, for
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example, to tend to look more
like the sort of ideograms that you might
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find in like the Chinese characters and
that kind of thing. So it's been
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difficult. In your opinion, is
there a connection between the communications that you
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receive and others receive in the crop
circles? I think that there are.
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They are condensed ideograms, that's my
sense. I interviewed a guy years ago
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who claimed to be one of the
secret crop circle makers in England, and
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he said that he had, you
know, was sort of wide eyed and
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idealistic when he first heard about,
you know, these crop circles. He
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went and he found this group of
I think he said it was roughly sixty
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people at the time who were making
them, and got sort of disillusioned until
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he started to realize that even among
this group of human crop circle makers,
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that sometimes one person would get an
idea for a design, only to discover
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that one or two other people had
the identical idea and were building them on
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the same fields at the same time, or they started seeing you know,
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the flying orbs of different colored lights
over the circles. So he began to
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realize there's something going on that's beyond
simply what he and his buddies were doing.
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So I think that it's it's so
much connected in with the concept of
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human collective consciousness and tapping that as
well as expressing things through symbols that we
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can somehow collectively create and understand.
I don't know if that's too complicated,
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but that's what I feel. Have
you found that being a psychic, detective,
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spiritual medium, paranormal investigator, and
a remote viewer has been of any
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asset to you in trying to decipher
alien communications? Yeah? And what I
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think is that they are all related, which I never understood. You know.
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I thought when I first started this
voyage, I thought that, okay,
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psychics, you know that to be
psychic is one thing, And then
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I realized psychic is related to paranormal
events and dealing with spirits and other types
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of non human entities. And I
had no idea that any of that was
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related to UFOs or to alien entities, but it is. And the more
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that you are capable of communicating in
those realms, the more information you can
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get. So, yeah, they
are related. Why why, in your
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opinion, don't these visitors just land
and get it over with and prove their
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point once and for all, to
each and every one of us instead of
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a select few. Um Well,
people been asked him that for a long
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time. Although they did fly over
the White House, what's that? I
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said, allegedly, Well, I
did, ye, except the photos of
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them, Well, nobody can prove
they are UFOs. Well, I mean,
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what is proof of anything. Let
me say, if talking about roswell
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of a crashed UFO would be kind
of neat or really a dead alien,
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if we're talking about bigfoot, a
cadaver of a bigfoot, and the list
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goes on and on and on.
So you're talking about being able to touch
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something physical and tangible and that makes
it real to you as a next police
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detective. Yes, okay. I
wrote my entire book Psychic Intuition, which
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explains the difference between our concept of
reality and perceptions. Perceptions are can be
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highly highly manipulated, so that all
of us are experienced hallucinations. In fact,
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thirty nine percent of the world experiences
very obvious hallucinations. You know,
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but in any one of the five
senses, the basic senses, you can
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trick the brain into believing that something
has happened when it absolutely has not happened.
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So how do we know these paranormal
events aren't part of that thirty nine
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percent of the hallucination ratio. Well, I think what you're try and do
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is you try to get cross collaboration, either with somebody else or with two
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or more dissenses. I think that's
the best way to do it. Once
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again, I have a hard time
understanding the logic behind a lot of these
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sightings and a lot of these experiencers. When there is you know, millions
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of people, billions of people on
this planet who have not seen or experienced
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anything that is classified within the power
normal or in the genre of uthology,
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and yet there are millions who have
What part does the media play in the
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in the desire for people to see
UFOs or to experience a paranormal experience?
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Is there something in our social structuring
right now that people want excitement and they're
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looking outside of the realm of reality
for this excitement. People are always going
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to look outside the realm of reality
for excitement. There's no doubt about that.
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The problem is that if you're if
you're suggesting that people are only you
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know, saying they're seeing these things
because of what they're watching on TV.
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You know, there have been sightings
going back through the millennia. I mean,
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I talk about a case that I
think it was in fifteenth century China
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of a guy getting abducted having being
on a medical exam table. Basically they
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fiddled around with his heart, put
his heart back in, and suddenly he
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finds himself, you know, back
on earth there. So you don't you
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don't need a TV in order to
be influenced to have these thoughts. No,
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but as as a lawyer, weren't
you trained to deal in the facts?
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Yeah? So what is a fact? And I think, you know,
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I do a lot of psychic detective
work, so usually i'm I'm looking
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for dead bodies and what I have
discovered, because who would have thought that
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if you know zippo about you know, whoever the victim was, or the
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suspect or anybody involved or anything about
it. Who who would think that you'd
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be able to get anything super specific
like the name of a witness, like
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the color of shoes that were being
worn by the victim, or the precise
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location on an island where it turns
out it was the only place where the
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police or law enforcement ever decided to
excavate. I mean, there are things
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that end up being so bizarrely precise
that you say to yourself, well,
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I know that that was impossible,
but that's real. That is real.
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You just have to learn how to
incorporate that into your concept of what is
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reality. It's a different way of
connecting the dots, all right. I
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can understand that, and I'll give
you the psychic detective part. But when
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it comes to extraterrestrials, aliens my
person, I think that's a little too
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far on the edge to be even
considered as part of rational thinking. Yeah.
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Well, listen, I probably would
have agreed with you if I hadn't
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experienced that myself. In fact,
I think I even wrote in my book
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Psychic Intuition, I said, you
know, now that I finally had to
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I've been able to experience ghosts.
Now, I've been able to see them
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with my physical eyes, hear them
with my physical ears, feel them with
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my skin, and smell them.
How do you feel a ghost with your
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skin? Oh? Because they can
touch you in a whole variety of ways.
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The way that I've experienced them is
and it's all done through cross corroboration
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of your different senses, so it's
sort of a part of the package.
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But the way that I've felt them
as almost like a coolness or a cool
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breeze on my skin. But I
have many friends who've been physically touched by
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them. They can feel the outlines
of their of a I guess an asteric
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body or whatever. They could feel
warmth, temperature, texture, size,
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all kinds of things. But anyway, but what I wanted to say was
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that you what I had said was
okay, Now I finally understand what a
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good ghost can be experiences, So
I believe in ghosts. I'm okay with
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that now. But I said I'd
probably have to see an alien before I
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believe in one. I said that
straight out, and now you know it's
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sort of be careful what you wish
for now. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
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I'm getting very short on time here, but just in a very few
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words, I thought you saw a
UFO. You didn't see an alien,
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Absolutely correct, And the only thing
that I have experienced in terms of an
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alien in my physical world, of
with my physical ears was those telephone conversations.
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All right, Nancy, you and
I have to say so long for
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tonight. Thank you for joining us. I find it rather amusing that you're
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a hoards US again. Craig Psychic
detective, spiritual medium, paranormal investigator,
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remote viewer. Aliens communicate with you, and you've written a number of books
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You've I don't know. I really
can't buy into it. I really can't.
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Xnation, tell me what you think. Send me an email x on
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at x on radiotv dot com.
I'm Rob McConnell. We'll be back on
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the other side of this break.
Whatever you do, don't go away or
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get abducted, or communicate with aliens
or whatever it is that you might do
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after listening to this interview.
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Our guest this hour is a young
lady that's going to be talking to
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us who is a trained psychic and
a spiritual medium. Now, Nancy,
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how do you pronounce your family name? Nobody ever gets it right, so
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it's technically tet, but nobody gets
that, so it's going to end up
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being do turtre, do art do
turt or. I also answer to two
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turtles if all else fails. All
right, so if I call you Nancy,
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do tet am I right, Yes, that's actually quite good. Well,
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that's not too bad for a French
guy. So your name means Nancy
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of the head. No, that
that would be a latte. This is
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ju tetre, which means from the
small hill. Oh, the small hill.
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All right, so tell us a
little bit about yourself. Where should
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I start? Well, what little
small hill did you come from? I
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didn't, but my husband did.
My husband is French, and actually I
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had become French in the years,
so I didn't come to the small hill
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I came from. I've lived all
of the United States. I've lived in
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England, France, and Germany.
We moved a lot when I was a
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kid, and I became a businesswoman, then became an attorney, practicing in
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New York. For close to a
decade, I practiced security litigation. And
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then I did this kind of strange
detour in my life and I started to
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write a book about what I thought
it was going to be, the psychology
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of intuition. And when I started
to look for the literature of all the
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psychologists and psychiatrists, they didn't want
to deal with intuition, and they were
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calling it things like empathy or resonant
empathy, or transference or countertransference in other
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ways. I know what those things
are, and none of them are intuition,
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and so they didn't want to deal
with intuition. So I studied a
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bunch of neuroscience. I thought maybe
they would have the answers they didn't want
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to deal with it, and then
I sort of went and I tried to
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find anybody who knew something about it, and that's what led me to psychics,
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psychic detectives, mediums, medical intuitives, military programs, just all kinds
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of stuff. Artists, poker players, you name it. And I realized
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at a certain point that if I
was going to write about this thing called
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intuition, that I had to understand
it on a very basic experiential level.
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So I trained it, and I
trained as a psychic detective for about ten
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years, and that's what I do. I also trained in military style remote
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viewing techniques, so I'm trained in
several different types of remote viewing and I've
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also developed my own type of remote
viewing that I called TSP. Now,
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who did you study you remote viewing
front with the military. I studied with
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Lynn Buchanan and my mentor was in
Goo Swan, Okay, why did you
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decide to become a psychic um?
Well, I didn't decide to. In
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fact, I was fighting it the
whole way because you know, I grew
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up in a very academic family,
very left brained. Nobody believed in that
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stuff. I certainly didn't believe in
it, and so I didn't decide to
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be that way. I I'm just
a curious person. I like learning,
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you know, about different people and
different ways of thinking. So I realized
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at a certain point when I was
sort of involved in these training things that
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I was pretty good at it.
And people would tell me that and I
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would laugh at them because I thought
it was ridiculous. And at a certain
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point I realized, well, it's
time to either accept this, you know,
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I'd I'd be silly not to accept
it. I have enough proof already,
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And when you're an attorney, you
kind of like proof. You like
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evidence. But how do you go
from being an attorney to being a psychoicd
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of remote viewer. Apparently not too
many people take that pathway it takes.
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It's really hard to explain. When
you have to change the way that you
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look at everything and the way that
you process all types of thinking. It
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takes a lot of courage. And
my biggest issue was always making a fool
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of myself because I don't like that, and I particularly you know, as
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somebody who I'm very analytic, and
so when you're analytic, you can always
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kind of reverse engineer you're thinking.
You can take it back and say,
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well, the reason why I got
there is because this is this, this
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and is all logical at all makes
sense and you can prove it to other
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people. When you get into the
psychic realm, you can't prove anything.
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There is no way to reverse engineer
this because there is no logic, because
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you're not dealing with a linear,
sequential type of thinking. The only way
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that you can prove it is by
feedback. So feedback, particularly in different
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types of remote viewing, becomes really
important. And that's how you could say
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to yourself, well, okay,
I'm on the right track. I get
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it, and I'm not a complete
fool. How would you describe psychic intuition?
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I describe well, let me put
it this way. I describe intuition
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on a kind of a sliding scale, because I think a lot of times
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what people have done is they've separated
out intuition that we all kind of know
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and we all get it from this
crazy psychic stuff, And for me,
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from what I've learned, it's all
on the same sliding scale, but you
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have different ratios of two different components, two different variables, conscious to unconscious
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awareness of say, let's say the
facts or the situation, and then rational
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irrational thoughts. So if you start
on the really conservative side, you have
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educated guesses which we all get and
pretty much even you know, scientists and
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business people, and they all understand
that educated guess is you're just missing maybe
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a link or two, and you're
in being absolutely under certain about something.
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You get into the kind of the
middle of this sliding scale of intuition,
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and you get into the realm of
things that are like gut feelings and hunches.
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It's very the emotions start to have
a certain weight in your understanding about
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life, right, and you're missing
more data and it's more unconscious all right.
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And then finally get out to the
the most liberal end, let's call
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it, which is the psychic realm. And in that realm you're dealing with
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sometimes it's completely irrational and sometimes it's
completely not within your conscious awareness. And
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world end a psychic. What was
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you can go around the world and
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trust yourself until you are completely flying
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do was to become a better lawyer, a better human being. I'm better
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in psychology, I'm better in a
whole lot of things because it put me
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on what I call this super highway
of information. Nancy, please to involve
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you when I have to take our
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back. Well there. I love
that song. Thanks Greig, Nancy and
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in the X Zone from our broadcast
center in studio in Hamilton, Ontario,
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Canada. Don't forget. You can
always get the current edition of the X
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Chronicles newspaper with our compliments that has
read around the world at www dot x
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Chronicles newspaper dot com. I'm Rob
McConnell. Don't go away. Nancy is
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our special guess. She is the
skeptical psychic. And why are you known
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as the skeptical psychic? But it's
not obvious. Yeah, no, skeptical
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because when you start out on the
other side of the fence, you don't
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believe, you never had any experience
with this kind of stuff, and you
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kind of don't want to go there
because you don't really trust it or you're
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nervous about it. Right, Yeah, you're skeptical, but it's a it's
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a good kind. It's not what
I call the religious skeptics. And by
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that I mean zealots. I mean
people who their go to primary position is
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I don't believe, therefore it doesn't
exist. Well, you know that's that's
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their right to believe that way,
isn't it. Yeah, absolutely, and
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by the way, coming from that
other side of defense, I have a
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huge amount of compassion for people who
don't get it. I spend a lot
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of my time trying to explain how
and why this works. And in fact,
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I've written a book called Psychic Intuition, which explains, in terms of
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neuroscience, psychology, and linguistics,
how we all start out with these abilities,
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why we all lose them, or
most of us lose them, and
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how we can get them back again. Because I'm just a trained person,
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I can I understand. I understand
your voyage that you took in getting to
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the conclusions that you have gotten to. But if it is sole legitimate,
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how come it isn't a recognize part
of the scientific psyche of that we people
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have. Oh yeah, well,
that's for exactly the reason that I've been
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talking about, which is your typical
left brained people, your analytic intellect,
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actual scientific whatever people, They have
only learned how to process thinking in one
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particular way, which is very sequential. It's linear. We get that way
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because we start out learning language language. Literally, let me make that kind
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of time. But I don't get
it. Let me ask you this thing.
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If we are all born with it. Why doesn't it all stay with
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us because we get trained out of
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people, the left hemisphere is dominant. Okay, okay, So your right
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hemisphere, which is your holistic side, your non analytics side, and tends
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to be your more psychic data side, gets wiped out. And they've done
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studies, you know, they for
a long time did the split brain studies,
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and they showed that if the for
example, the left brain was shown
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an item. Let's say a fabric
was a particular color, and let's say
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it's a green fabric, but they
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the word blue underneath, and only
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say, oh that's a blue item. Is it's shown to the right hemisphere
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and does not have a word attached
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We have disagreements inside our brain all
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hemisphere, which is also where most
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it dominates, so that part of
our entire reality literally I mean literally disappears.
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Then how come other other things that
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out? For example, oh,
they are a seal on here what about
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talking? What about walking? What
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is it only the psychic that has
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we're born with. No there are
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we're all born with perfect pitch and
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certain abilities to learn other languages.
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roughly the ages of three and six, and they get wiped out because our
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language becomes dominant. So the way
that I have explained this is that instead
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of experiencing the world as if everything
is unique and singular, you know,
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and you have no way to compare
it to anything, what we start to
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do is we start to use metaphors, we store. Everything becomes relative to
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something else. Okay, so everything
then becomes an abstract thought. So we
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lose our ability to experience the world
literally like a baby. Okay, babies
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just experienced everything like it's first time
ever. They have no way to compare
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it to anything. And a lot
of the psychic data that we get comes
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into our our bodies and into our
brains as um. We can't identify it.
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nonsense. And if with our very
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psychic data to anything, it disappears
from our reality, then how come some
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people retain it? Um? I
think some people are encouraged to retain it,
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you know, the way that their
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and they acknowledge certain things, and
and other families they don't you think
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it were you encouraged? Oh?
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no. I come from a very
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internationally recognized scientists, and my mother
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So now this stuff didn't exist.
Did you, looking back as a child,
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have any psychic experiences? You know? I think I maybe had two
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that I can remember. One of
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about I must have been about thirteen
years old or so, and I was
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over to friend's house and we were
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teenage young teenage kids talk about ghosts. Oh that's you know, so much
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fun. And we got called down
for dinner. We go into their h
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My friend it was, her name
was Beth, it was They were all
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inning dinner watching TV. And I
wasn't allowed to watch TV at that time
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in my life, and so I
really didn't know what was all on or
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didn't to expect. But there was
a this woman who comes out on the
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TV. She I don't know she. I think she was holding a platter
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or something. And I knew immediately
what she was about to say. And
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I said what she was about to
say, and then she said it.
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I was an analytical type of kid. So was it the lady? What
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was I am a little confused here? Was it the lady on TV that
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you knew what was going to say? Or the lady in the house?
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The lady on TV? How do
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I was trying to figure out when
I was thirteen. So I said to
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my friend, I said, oh, you know in my head, because
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I asked myself, how how could
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So in my head I had heard
her father's voice saying what this woman was
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going to say? And so I
said to my little friend, Bapitt said,
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well, did you did your father
say that? Is that? Could
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I have you know? Somehow,
and she said, well, actually I
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think he was, but it was
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He was talking about that particular show
and he had made some comment about whatever
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that you know that this woman on
the TV was saying, it's a stupid
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and complex little story and it didn't
make any sense to me. All I
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remember is thinking, I was thinking, there's no way in my reality that
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would have allowed me to have that
information, and that was so confusing to
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me. I stuffed it in the
you know, does not compute box in
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my brain and I left it there
then, I mean, and over the
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then I had a mediumship type experience. I had a which I couldn't explain
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either, didn't know what to do
with that, stuffed it in the same
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little place in my brain and forgot
about it. But other than that,
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no, I mean, I just
wasn't one of those kids who grew up,
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you know, seeing spirits and predicting
and doing all that kind of stuff.
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But it's all trainable, and I
know it's trainable. I understand that
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you have an interest in uphology and
aliens. I do. I also knew
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that one either. How did that
come about? How did that come about?
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that the really important or the the
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time when I finally said to myself, well, there's no getting around this.
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One was when I went to a
local movie theater here in New Jersey
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and I went with my daughter,
who was I don't know, she must
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have been about I don't know,
nineteen years old, I guess. And
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we saw we saw the movie.
It was Woody Allen's Midnight in Paris,
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which is all about going backwards in
time, by the way, And we
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got out of the movie and there
was nobody in the movie theater. I've
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never seen that before. Nobody maybe
one employee, but I even I'm not
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so sure about that, but there
were no customers. We walked out into
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this parking lot, into a big
it's a big shopping wall. It's a
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big, flat, open area,
and we're going to the car and my
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daughter pointed up in the sky and
she said, what's that? And she
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I look up and about five hundred
two thousand feet up in the air there's
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a massive about twenty to thirty orange
lights. And we all know nobody,
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I mean airplanes are using white,
blue or red. There's nobody uses orange.
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like bouncing lights from somewhere on the
ground and their bounce hang off of clouds
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and reflecting. But there was no
cloud cover and there were no beams of
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light being bounced off of anything.
And the closer we looked at this,
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why you could make at it was
a boomerang shaped craft. It was the
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size of a football field and it
was sitting there doing nothing. All right,
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a cliffhanger here. I have to
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take my news break at the bottom
of the hour. XO Nation. Our
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guest this hour is Nancy Tetra.
I hope I'm saying that right, And
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Nancy and I will be back on
the other side of this break as we
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continue here in the X Zone from
our broadcast center in studios in Hamilton,
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Ontario, Canada. If you'd like
to visit Nancy online, her website is
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the Skeptical Psychic dot Com. I'm
Rob McConnell. This is the X Zone.
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Don't go away, Welcome back.
Explanation. Nancy to thirty three is
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our special guest and she is a
trained psychic and spiritual medium. She wasn't
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born that way, and if she
was she doesn't remember it. She believes
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we all have the capability of tuning
into the supernatural once we unlearn our logical
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processes and learn to trust the profoundly
irrational processes of our mind. She loves
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evidence of the supernatural or paranormal,
but doesn't get stuck on the concept.
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Learning how to trust the information that
comes in a non verbal, disorganized,
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fragmented fashion is not easy. You
have to trust your insight, otherwise this
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kind of data is quickly dismissed by
the brain. But you must then try
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to verify your information. Now,
this means that you must exist in a
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very uncomfortable mental place of being both
a believer and a skeptic at the same
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time. This process will lead you
to the truth. Nancy spent lifetime attempting
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to master this strange balancing act.
Or website is the Skeptical Psychic dot com.
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And before we went to the newsbreak, Nancy, you were telling us
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about that you and your daughter went
to see a Woody Allen movie. It
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was very strange. There were very
few people in the theater. You walk
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out into the parking lot, look
up. Your daughter looks up, points
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at a very strange object in the
sky orange lights, later identified as a
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boomerang shaped object. So take it
from there. Yeah, And my daughter
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started to say, let's go,
let's go, let's get out of here.
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saw it, and I said,
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no, I have to fear what
this thing is, what does it do?
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What the heck is it? And
eventually a very large white luminescent orb
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sort of telescoped open off of the
one of these the wings of this boomerang
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shaped football field sized craft, and
it detached. It started moving around in
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the sort of croacute fashion, like
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behind the craft, came back over
the top, redocked, and then disappeared
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in sort of a blink. And
at some point they craft either cloaked or
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demterialized in three phases, starting with
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I guess you would call another boomerang, and then the center and the very
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center, and poof, it was
gone. And then oh something important part
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is after that we went back.
We didn't discuss it. I said,
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how about to my daughter, I
said, how about we try and draw
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what we both saw before we tell
each other. So we both in color
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drew what we saw it was identical, and for the next year and a
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half we began to receive extremely strange
telephone call interruptions, and I believe they
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were aliens contacting us after that event. Why you, oh, I have
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no idea, And frankly, I
don't think it has too much to do
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with me at all. I think
that some people, well no, I'm
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going to clarify that some people do
see these craft and some people can be
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looking directly at them and they don't
see them at all. So yes,
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in that sense, Okay, maybe
because I've trained myself now to see things
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that maybe my left brain wouldn't be
able to identify. What happens if your
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left what happens if your right brain
is wrong, Well, your left brain
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can be wrong too. I mean, we could be wrong all the time.
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I understand that, But I just
ask you, what happens if your
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right brain is wrong? Well,
then what happens? I mean, all
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I know is that it was confirmed
by my daughter. She was also witnessed.
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We both drew the same thing,
which would tend to confirm it.
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We both saw the same thing and
experienced it, and then we both got
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the same telephone interruptions. Didn't matter
whether you know what combination landlines or cell
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phones or whatever we were using.
And eventually some of her friends heard it,
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and some of my friends and clients
heard it. What kind of interruptions
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were they? What would happen is
we'd be having a normal conversation all of
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a sudden there would be a very
weird, deep electronic male sounding voice that
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would start talking. And as soon
as it started talking, we couldn't hear
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each other, but we could both
hear it. And I don't know what
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language it was speaking. It sounded
like it was coming through huge amounts of
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like wave distortion. Um it would
speak, and when it was done speaking,
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one time I did say my daughter's
name, by the way, that
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was the only recognizable thing. It
would stop and then it would disconnect both
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of us simultaneously, and then neither
one of us would be able to call
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back the other for usually five or
ten minutes. And as I said,
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that went on for a year and
a half. Now, where was it
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you saw this UFO craziest thing?
I mean, the New Jersey, United
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States, five minutes from my house. All right? It is that?
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Is it a major city? At
what time? No? No, no,
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no, not at all. I
mean, I this is roughly say,
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a half hour drive outside of New
York City, okay. And what
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time of night was it? It
was eleven forty five pm. Were there
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any other reports of UFO was made
to the authorities or to the media that
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night. Well, my daughter when
we got back, she said, well,
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we have to we have to call
the police and we're this. So
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she picked up the phone and I
said, you know, Selene, maybe
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put the phone down for a sec. Let's let's consider this one carefully.
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I said, what exactly are you
going to tell them? And she thought
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about she didn't know what she was
gonna tell them. I said, well,
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how about this, how about you
asked them, if you're insisting on
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calling them, asked them if anybody's
reported seeing anything strange in the skytie nights,
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which he did, and of course
nobody had, even though it's right
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on it's on a highway, so
you would think somebody would have seen something.
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I then, for the first time
in my life, started going through
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I realized that they're reporting sites and
organizations for UFOs, which I had no
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clue because I wasn't into this.
And I started I did see that there
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had been some reports in a neighboring
town that night, roughly that period of
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time, where they had seen some
kind of a craft nothing like what we
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saw, though, coming in our
direction. The area where the where the
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sighting was made by you and your
daughter, was it in a high air
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traffic control area or controlled area?
No, not really, Um, they're
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they're no that you have Newark Airport. Newark Airport is roughly, I don't
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know, a half hour away.
Their planes don't generally fly over our area.
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There's a couple of small airports,
but nothing significant. How did that
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sighting change your life? Oh well, if all of a sudden you realize
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there's a possibility of non human intelligent
species and um, that they're interacting with
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us, and they're interacting intelligently and
have the capability to cut into phone conversations,
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potentially read your mind, um,
get into your dreams, transact you
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know with you. They can change
your reality. Uh so so overnight,
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virtually, I mean everything changes.
It expands your entire concept of what is.
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I understand you've written a book how
to Talk to an Alien? Yeah,
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yeah, well that sort of that
grew out of my interest in being
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contacted that way. Um, so
I got interested in trying to figure out,
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you know, who is trying to
communicate with us, and one are
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the various types of ways in which
non humans intelligences can communicate. And so
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I researched it a lot, and
I kind of discovered that there are probably
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many different species They are communicating not
only in human languages, but in alien
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languages, and not just us in
this sort of sequential language that we all
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deal in, but they also communicate
in very non durable, sometimes telepathic ways.
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So it's kind of it's it's a
huge area. And I was shocked
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because hardly anybody had ever talked about
this before. I only found one one
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serious researcher in the field, and
who was that. His name was his
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psychiatrist from the Steady Delawares name was
doctor Mario Pasiglini, and he had basically
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gathered I don't know, maybe one
hundred or so different writing samples from contactees,
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and he had broken down the different
types of writing samples into three different
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categories what he called dot in line, cursive or script style, and geometric
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style for the different types of writing
or alphabets that they have. And I've
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found that to be a really useful
kind of a guideline, a good starting
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point, although I think that there
are more types than that. So what
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message do you think the aliens are
trying to give you depends who you talk
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to. As you've got you've got. I think some that are trying to
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well, the most obvious is save
the environment, or save the world from
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destruction of humans by humans. Save
the world from tearing certain dimensional fabrics.
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Humans need to start understanding, you
know, their own violent tendencies. I
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understand these are wonderful messages, but
why don't they the aliens give these messages
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to the people who can actually make
these changes happen. The people in hour,
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the people in government, the leaders
of churches. I think you know
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that that was probably attempted. Um, they say that that was attempted.
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Certainly in the US was Eisenhower,
who may have cut some deals. Well,
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you're talking about the MJ twelve papers
here. Well, okay, listen,
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we've got to take a break.
We'll be right back. This is
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the XON. I am Rob McConnell. Our guest of this hour is a
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Nancy to thir three and her website
The Skeptical Psychic dot Com. We'll be
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back on the other side of this
break as we wrap up this hour here
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in the X zone, don't go
away. And so you had are you
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finding commonalities across the board in the
languages, the alien languages that you've studied.
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What I Yes, there are some, but I have to tell you
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I am extremely frustrated not to find
more. And I because that sort of
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bothers my whole sense of well,
you know, how many groups are out
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there that are communicating in the same
language versus are it? Does this stem
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from the imagination of the human and
so it bugs me when I can't find
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more commonalities in the language. But
yes, I would say what I did
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talk about in my book How I
Talked to an Alien is I talked about
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four different cases where I found matches
from let's see, it was an American
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American guy in Florida, British woman, a couple of Japanese kids, and
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there was oh and a Brazilian man. Okay, so there are people all
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over the world, different time periods
when they got this particular type of writing.
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It was the dot and line style
of writing, and they do seem
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to be certain commonalities in it.
The problem is you're not necessarily dealing with
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you know, like a Latin alphabet, you know, or twenty six letters
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or anything like that. And sometimes
I've seen certain types of writing, for
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example, to tend to look more
like the sort of ideograms that you might
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find in like the Chinese characters and
that kind of thing. So it's been
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difficult. In your opinion, is
there a connection between the communications that you
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receive and others receive in the crop
circles? I think that there are.
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They are condensed ideograms, that's my
sense. I interviewed a guy years ago
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who claimed to be one of the
secret crop circle makers in England, and
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he said that he had, you
know, was sort of wide eyed and
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idealistic when he first heard about,
you know, these crop circles. He
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went and he found this group of
I think he said it was roughly sixty
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people at the time who were making
them, and got sort of disillusioned until
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he started to realize that even among
this group of human crop circle makers,
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that sometimes one person would get an
idea for a design, only to discover
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that one or two other people had
the identical idea and were building them on
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the same fields at the same time, or they started seeing you know,
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the flying orbs of different colored lights
over the circles. So he began to
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realize there's something going on that's beyond
simply what he and his buddies were doing.
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So I think that it's it's so
much connected in with the concept of
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human collective consciousness and tapping that as
well as expressing things through symbols that we
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can somehow collectively create and understand.
I don't know if that's too complicated,
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but that's what I feel. Have
you found that being a psychic, detective,
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spiritual medium, paranormal investigator, and
a remote viewer has been of any
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asset to you in trying to decipher
alien communications? Yeah? And what I
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think is that they are all related, which I never understood. You know.
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I thought when I first started this
voyage, I thought that, okay,
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psychics, you know that to be
psychic is one thing, And then
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I realized psychic is related to paranormal
events and dealing with spirits and other types
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of non human entities. And I
had no idea that any of that was
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related to UFOs or to alien entities, but it is. And the more
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that you are capable of communicating in
those realms, the more information you can
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get. So, yeah, they
are related. Why why, in your
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opinion, don't these visitors just land
and get it over with and prove their
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point once and for all, to
each and every one of us instead of
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a select few. Um Well,
people been asked him that for a long
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time. Although they did fly over
the White House, what's that? I
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said, allegedly, Well, I
did, ye, except the photos of
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them, Well, nobody can prove
they are UFOs. Well, I mean,
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what is proof of anything. Let
me say, if talking about roswell
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of a crashed UFO would be kind
of neat or really a dead alien,
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if we're talking about bigfoot, a
cadaver of a bigfoot, and the list
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goes on and on and on.
So you're talking about being able to touch
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something physical and tangible and that makes
it real to you as a next police
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detective. Yes, okay. I
wrote my entire book Psychic Intuition, which
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explains the difference between our concept of
reality and perceptions. Perceptions are can be
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highly highly manipulated, so that all
of us are experienced hallucinations. In fact,
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thirty nine percent of the world experiences
very obvious hallucinations. You know,
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but in any one of the five
senses, the basic senses, you can
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trick the brain into believing that something
has happened when it absolutely has not happened.
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So how do we know these paranormal
events aren't part of that thirty nine
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percent of the hallucination ratio. Well, I think what you're try and do
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is you try to get cross collaboration, either with somebody else or with two
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or more dissenses. I think that's
the best way to do it. Once
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again, I have a hard time
understanding the logic behind a lot of these
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sightings and a lot of these experiencers. When there is you know, millions
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of people, billions of people on
this planet who have not seen or experienced
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anything that is classified within the power
normal or in the genre of uthology,
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and yet there are millions who have
What part does the media play in the
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in the desire for people to see
UFOs or to experience a paranormal experience?
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Is there something in our social structuring
right now that people want excitement and they're
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looking outside of the realm of reality
for this excitement. People are always going
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to look outside the realm of reality
for excitement. There's no doubt about that.
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The problem is that if you're if
you're suggesting that people are only you
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know, saying they're seeing these things
because of what they're watching on TV.
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You know, there have been sightings
going back through the millennia. I mean,
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I talk about a case that I
think it was in fifteenth century China
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of a guy getting abducted having being
on a medical exam table. Basically they
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fiddled around with his heart, put
his heart back in, and suddenly he
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finds himself, you know, back
on earth there. So you don't you
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don't need a TV in order to
be influenced to have these thoughts. No,
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but as as a lawyer, weren't
you trained to deal in the facts?
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Yeah? So what is a fact? And I think, you know,
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I do a lot of psychic detective
work, so usually i'm I'm looking
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for dead bodies and what I have
discovered, because who would have thought that
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if you know zippo about you know, whoever the victim was, or the
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suspect or anybody involved or anything about
it. Who who would think that you'd
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be able to get anything super specific
like the name of a witness, like
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the color of shoes that were being
worn by the victim, or the precise
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location on an island where it turns
out it was the only place where the
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police or law enforcement ever decided to
excavate. I mean, there are things
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that end up being so bizarrely precise
that you say to yourself, well,
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I know that that was impossible,
but that's real. That is real.
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You just have to learn how to
incorporate that into your concept of what is
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reality. It's a different way of
connecting the dots, all right. I
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can understand that, and I'll give
you the psychic detective part. But when
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it comes to extraterrestrials, aliens my
person, I think that's a little too
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far on the edge to be even
considered as part of rational thinking. Yeah.
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Well, listen, I probably would
have agreed with you if I hadn't
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experienced that myself. In fact,
I think I even wrote in my book
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Psychic Intuition, I said, you
know, now that I finally had to
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I've been able to experience ghosts.
Now, I've been able to see them
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with my physical eyes, hear them
with my physical ears, feel them with
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my skin, and smell them.
How do you feel a ghost with your
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skin? Oh? Because they can
touch you in a whole variety of ways.
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The way that I've experienced them is
and it's all done through cross corroboration
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of your different senses, so it's
sort of a part of the package.
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But the way that I've felt them
as almost like a coolness or a cool
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breeze on my skin. But I
have many friends who've been physically touched by
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them. They can feel the outlines
of their of a I guess an asteric
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body or whatever. They could feel
warmth, temperature, texture, size,
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all kinds of things. But anyway, but what I wanted to say was
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that you what I had said was
okay, Now I finally understand what a
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good ghost can be experiences, So
I believe in ghosts. I'm okay with
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that now. But I said I'd
probably have to see an alien before I
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believe in one. I said that
straight out, and now you know it's
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sort of be careful what you wish
for now. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
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I'm getting very short on time here, but just in a very few
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words, I thought you saw a
UFO. You didn't see an alien,
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Absolutely correct, And the only thing
that I have experienced in terms of an
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alien in my physical world, of
with my physical ears was those telephone conversations.
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All right, Nancy, you and
I have to say so long for
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tonight. Thank you for joining us. I find it rather amusing that you're
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a hoards US again. Craig Psychic
detective, spiritual medium, paranormal investigator,
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remote viewer. Aliens communicate with you, and you've written a number of books
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You've I don't know. I really
can't buy into it. I really can't.
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Xnation, tell me what you think. Send me an email x on
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at x on radiotv dot com.
I'm Rob McConnell. We'll be back on
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the other side of this break.
Whatever you do, don't go away or
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get abducted, or communicate with aliens
or whatever it is that you might do
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after listening to this interview.
