Are Some Spirits Better at Communicating Than Others with Erica Coward

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Point is I was in a school, soul, school level training, and they said, Where do you want to learn?
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And I said, I want to learn how to be a spirit guide.
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I need to come back and teach.
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I want to come back, come back and communicate with my children and my my family.
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Like, how can I communicate with my husband?
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I want to learn.
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So you go, you're going into spirit school.
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So you're gonna go over here and you're gonna be a spirit guide, and you're gonna go over here and train and how to go back.
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And I was literally in this portal of training, and I went back and communicated with my husband.
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Welcome to the Unity Code, where we explore what becomes possible when we stop keeping spirituality on the sidelines and start using our connection to spirit to actually change lives.
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I'm Nicole Pope, a medium teacher and former transformation corporate executive.
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I've spent more than 20 years obsessed with data, patterns, systems, and one question.
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What actually creates change?
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These days I'm asking that same question about energy, consciousness, the soul, and our connection to spirit.
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And no, we're not keeping this theoretical.
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On the podcast, we're going to teach it, test it, demonstrate it, play with it, and bring real people into the conversation.
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We'll explore mediumship, energetic, intuition, ancestral patterns, human potential, and some things I'm not even sure we have language for yet.
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Because the goal is bigger than becoming more spiritual.
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It's about discovering what you're capable of, using it to transform yourself, expand your life, and step into possibilities you couldn't access before.
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This is the Unity Code, where spirit meets experimentation, transformation, and a community curious enough to find out what else is possible.
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I'm so glad you're here.
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Hello, everyone.
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Welcome back to the Unity Code.
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I am so excited to introduce to you the amazing Erica Coward.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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Thank you for having me.
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I love our chat, so I'm excited for that.
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Me too.
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I'm so excited.
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This was something that definitely was more of a spirit-led conversation, and it was so interesting and profound that we thought it would be super value add to bring it to all of the listeners here on the Unity Code.
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So a little bit about Erica.
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Her and I have actually been chatting for like several years now.
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I think you were one of the first people that I followed on TikTok when I first started doing this work many years ago.
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So Erica is the founder of Simply Divine Elements.
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She has experienced spirit since she was a little girl.
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And we're going to talk a little bit about that.
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But she's actually a beautiful, wonderful healer and psychic medium and intuitive and all of these amazing things.
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And you can find her all over the socials.
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And I think what I love so much about you, Erica, is the love and the passion and the joy that you bring into this work.
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And there's this beautiful underlying energy of just relentless perseverance of who you are in the work and the integrity that you bring to this work.
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So I'm actually so, so excited to have you here on the podcast and just introducing some real mediumship level discussions with everybody here today.
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So again, thank you so much.
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I'm so stoked you're here.
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Thank you.
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And I found it very interesting when we connected is you, I kind of had a feeling you were from up north too.
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And that was another thing that led me.
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And it's so interesting how that happens, right?
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I'm from up north, but I don't live there anymore, right?
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I'm down in Florida.
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And for some reason, I just knew you were from up north.
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And then I think I might have seen you in a Boston Red Sox hat, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this happens all the time.
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I meet people that aren't literally from or even around where I was born, you know.
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A crazy story I'll share real quick with how that works and how collide how spirit collides with the healers and everyone.
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So I took a couple years ago, I took a course and there was a girl on it that for some reason her and I were just like we connected, immediately emailed each other after.
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I didn't know why.
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I was just like, I need to talk to this girl.
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And come to find out, she is literally born and raised from the town that I grew up in.
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We're the same age, never met, but she's from Salem.
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Like, how, like, and that was not the first time.
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A lot of my clients that come to me, that you know, again, I started my business in Florida.
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A lot of them come to me and they are from where I grew up.
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Like, how, like, that is spirit-led for sure.
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Wow.
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That's insane.
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And yeah, I think I think it's worth noting.
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Like, I can't believe you're from Salem, Massachusetts.
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Like wild.
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It's so wild.
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The amount of energy that you must have born into, like in that location.
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No wonder you do what you do, Erica.
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I just have to say it.
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It was definitely not easy as a child growing up in that, you know, era area and just being, you know, experiencing things that were different and unusual, and it wasn't a common thing.
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Right.
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Let's just say that.
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It wasn't a common thing to talk about, like just the history of Salem.
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Oh, I love it.
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Okay.
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And so to kind of ground the listeners in what we're going to chat about for this.
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So our conversation started a few weeks ago where we were kind of doing trade readings for each other.
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And you asked me to pull in your grandmother, but then you actually said, like, but good luck, because no one can get her.
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So this is kind of what broached us kind of chatting and having this conversation today.
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But before we maybe go into that, I would love for you to give a little bit of background about, you know, how you obviously born, literally born into this work in Salem, Massachusetts.
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So, and you've been communicating with Spirit since you were a young kid.
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So, so how like how did you navigate your way into becoming a medium along this incredible journey that you've had?
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So, long story short, I will say that since I was a little girl, I always had things that happened in my dreams.
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I lost a lot of people young.
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And so weird stuff would happen too that I just didn't understand.
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I actually did light language as a child, and my mother literally was like, What's wrong with you?
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Like, I mean, I would say that I was borderline on something, like spectrum, whatever you want to call it, as a child is considered to someone doing that.
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And my sisters and I understand now, but I would do stuff like that.
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My my mother and I, I would say she would take me to Salem.
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We would do, you know, she would, she was very much into rituals.
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My mother's more like witchy energy to her.
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She believed in all that.
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We did stuff like little things like spells, like you know, intention setting and all that, but nothing too deep.
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I never talked to her actually about mediumship or any spirits that I would like experience.
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And I I think because I didn't understand it and and I wasn't approached it, like no one approached that to me.
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So once I hit a little older, of course, the dreams were heavy and coming in, and I would start sharing it.
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I started sharing it to my family, and I know my aunt, she is in spirit now, but she was the one who helped me with my dreams.
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She actually experienced a lot of dream state stuff like that she was going through, um, meaning like the interpretation or or spirit.
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Another thing to backtrack, my when I was little, I did also experience a lot of galactic stuff with my mother.
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My mother was huge in aliens and all of that.
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And she, I mean, I witnessed her, that's a whole nother topic, but I witnessed things with her and myself as children, and I was terrified.
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And I would say probably later on in my life, a couple maybe like seven years ago, is when I got over that fear and I understood why.
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But with that being said, the mediumship came back.
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It didn't leave, even if I wasn't really understanding right.
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And throughout my life as a teen, I kind of suppressed a lot to go through the trauma.
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Let me just fast forward, right?
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The trauma that I experienced that did have disso dissociated a lot of my life.
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Um, and then when I hit in my 20s, I would say like 20-ish, I started having dreams of people that I didn't know.
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Um, like, for example, one of my friends that I was in high school with, I didn't see her in for years, and I had a dream with her father, and he came to visit me, and it was his birthday, and he was like, You have to tell her.
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And he showed me like a whole room, like this her bedroom.
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Like, I've never been to her house.
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Like, this is just an acquaintance person of like someone I went to high school with.
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And he showed me like everything detailed, and I called, I or I tried to contact her on Facebook, and I found her and said, This is just the first time I'm doing this because I finally was told by spirit start telling people, stop saying, stop, stop keeping it to yourself.
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And so I sent her a message, and she was so appreciative and so thankful, and it just kept on happening once I shared it.
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Every time I shared it, and this is just me not, I didn't do readings, I wasn't paying, I had no business, like this, I had no idea what I was doing.
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I would just see people and like feel something, or I had struggled a lot being around people because I knew things and I didn't understand.
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And I knew before you said something, if you lied, I didn't want I didn't like people most of my life because I knew that their honesty didn't match their characters, so I had struggle making friends, you know.
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And then with the whole later on in life with mediumship, I would say I realized that my grandmother, I my mother and I went to see a medium 10 years ago, so not that long, right?
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Like 10 years ago.
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Because something changed in my life that bringing my children involved in this, my my daughter.
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So my daughter sparked something, and uh, that's a whole nother ballgame I would definitely tap into.
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But real quick on that, she sparked something.
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My mother and I said, let's go to Casta Dega.
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Casta Dega is a uh spiritual camp in Florida, not far from where I live, and it's all mediums, all psychics, all like the spiritual campgrounds.
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It's wonderful.
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And we went, and that was the first time I ever had a medium tell me um everything I needed to know and understand about mediumship, and I broke down, like broke it, broke down.
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Like that was like my awakening break, just everything crumbles, shattered, and and like embrace it fully.
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Um, and I think with that being said, it was a lot of things evolving with mediumship with my daughter, and then I found out my grandmother, both of my grandmothers, had the mediumship ability.
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My and I learned a lot about my lineage after that, and then of course my daughter experiencing it as a child too.
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Wow.
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So it was undeniable for me.
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I couldn't deny it anymore, right?
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Like I love that, and I I think it just shows I don't know how some people are destined for this.
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And it like if your story is is nothing else, like you can see how you were literally born into a lineage of exceptionally gifted and connected women.
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And so even as you're getting these premonitions as a young child and seeing all these visions, right?
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You can turn and run from it as long as you want, but then there will be something that causes you to walk down this path with your daughter.
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And and you and I have such a similar story because that was my son, same thing, that kind of prompted me into this work as well.
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So it's I just I love that.
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Thank you so much for sharing your story.
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And I think it's just so eye-opening how this worked finds you.
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Like it just finds you.
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Yeah.
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It's wild, it's wild.
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And most of the time, too, most of the time, right?
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We don't necessarily understand that we've been experiencing it our whole life.
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Yes.
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Um, until you kind of reflect back and see all those little connect dots of everything you've gone through.
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And one thing that is very interesting is with my with that being said, I feel my grandmother and the lineage, when they crossed over, that is truly ultimately when that shifted fully into you're not breaking, you're breaking it.
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You're not you're not carrying this anymore.
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You're breaking it.
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My grandmother was terrified and of mediumship and she would dream all the time of of a spirit.
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And, you know, when they when she f she was 101.
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So when my grandparents found out what I was doing, they were like, they called me a bruja, you know, the Portuguese are from Portugal.
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So like all these, but they weren't saying it in a mean way.
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It was funny.
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It was just like, oh yeah, she's a bruja.
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Like, yeah, like no, like no big deal, you know.
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And my grandmother was like terrified, and and she would tell me on the time make it go away, you know, she didn't want to.
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So I knew that I wasn't alone, yeah.
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I wasn't this weird, you know, odd ball, but I always never felt like this was my place, home.
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You know, I was so interesting.
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So is this the grandmother that we connected to?
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So the one, no.
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So the one connected to was the other one that I also was with uh when she crossed over.
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She actually was the one who made me who by her passing I believed in God.
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Do you want to talk about that?
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What what caused her to happen?
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I will say that so my whole entire life as a as a child, too.
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I was raised Catholic, but like not Catholic, like we weren't strict.
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I never believed it.
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I never liked it.
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It didn't fit, didn't fit in my soul.
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I just I I didn't ever feel it.
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Something always pulled me away, and I became more into like Buddhism and like just everything is energy, all this on my own.
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And of course, everyone's like, what's wrong with her?
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But um I did what I thought was right, and then I hit a point where I was very dissociated and just in a dark, dark, dark place um from trauma that I just didn't believe in it.
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I didn't believe in anything for a very long period of my life until my grandmother passed away, and I witnessed seeing an angel when she passed.
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Like I saw an angel.
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What did it look like?
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I like a literal angel.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Like wow, literally light being, like a light being.
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So not so much wing-like, but like light being.
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Okay.
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And that type of shaping, if you will.
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And like when I saw that, I was told by many people that I witnessed a enlightenment, and that and then that got me intrigued, right?
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And I kind of went on this journey of like knowing that there was more than what I that meets the eye.
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And then, of course, my mediumship was even more stronger.
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And my grandmother would only visit me in my dreams, though.
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Yeah, until like randomly she would here and there in the present, like my waking day, but mainly just dream space state.
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And this is the woman that I asked to, can you connect to that?
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It is her, it was her.
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Um, so yeah.
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But so going on to the lineage of mediumship with her, she actually, so her mother and her were born in Salem.
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So they were born where I was born.
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Okay.
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But her mother, at so when she was 15, her mother went into a mental institution because she was hearing voices, but she was a medium.
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And back then, you were put in the Damer State Ward.
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Like you were put in a salence island, like you were shunned, right?
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Medicated and all that.
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And now I didn't know much of this when she was alive.
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How I found out was when I opened my abilities and was like, who is this woman, mom?
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Like I was like, why am I getting this woman all the time?
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Who is she?
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And I showed, I told her, I said, I need a photo of her.
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I need to see what she looks like because I'm seeing this woman.
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Is it your grandmother?
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And she goes, Well, I never met my grandmother, but I know of her, right?
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Because she was, she was in that, she didn't go, she wasn't around, obviously, at that point, with my mother.
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And I looked at the photo, and it was her.
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And she kept on telling me that she was a medium, that she went through it.
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She went through it, is what I kept on hearing.
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And every time I would see her face, I just felt this immense amount of like connection with this woman that I'd never met.
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And I would, I just I and then she left.
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After I started awakening my ability of it, it's like she just came in as an ancestor, as a healer, as like just like awakening, and then left.
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And I haven't seen her to tell you the truth since then.
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But I had past lives that I've experienced where I was in a like strait jacket, put in a assailant.
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Like, this is before I knew her or before I even experienced her.
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Years you're so connected.
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Like I found this out about me before, and then years later, I was like, wait, oh, she went through I went through that too.
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What?
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Child, okay, weird.
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So I can't, and it was like I couldn't speak because I was so medicated.
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I kept on not asking spirit, why do I feel like I can't speak my whole life?
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And it was because I was suppressed.
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My lineage had been suppressed, yes, not able to speak, not medicated, shunned, banned, you know, all of it.
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And that was that was ultimately my so she really awakened my connection with Ferrand and Source because I knew that there was so much more than you know what I was actually believing at that time.
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Wow.
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So working with her in your lineage, as well as your own past lives, I mean, there is uh healing upon healing that you're doing by doing this work in this lifetime.
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Yeah.
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And every time I did it, every time I faced it and went through it, I noticed my daughter was experiencing spirit, and she experienced also galactic beings, and she did exactly the same thing that I did as a child.
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She was terrified, and I had to experience it with her and talk to her with her and share about it, and it transformed her rapidly versus me my whole life, right?
00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:16.960
She she had a window of like when she was like three to like six, right?
00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:27.920
So, like a three-year window of letting go of that fear and facing that like experience with that galactic past life versus mine, right?
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I'm like a child all the way up until I'm like 30.
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Yeah.
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So it's like you have this huge expansion uh for me, and then with my lineage, it's like quick, we're we're getting that.
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So I see that as like, wow, okay, that's what I'm here for.
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That's what I'm doing.
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You did not come here to fuck around.
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You were just like, let's get straight to the lesson, everybody.
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Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
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And like the stuff that she experienced is is like wild.
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I did not like even her, the stuff that she experienced as a child is way more heightened because she's able to.
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Right.
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Right.
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And you're conditioned, and like you're teaching her, and so it doesn't come from a fear-based perspective.
00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.359
So it it changed, it's it changes the whole game of things.
00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.680
And our yeah, like our kids heal us because even in my past lives, I came home.
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So I knew things in my past life.
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I came home from my experience in Sedona, and my son like knew the location.
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He kept on saying Africa, Billy, and he was four or three at the time.
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I'm like, what why is he saying this?
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He named his new stuffed animal Billy.
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That was a past part of my past life with him.
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How did he know that?
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Wow, like this is this is and then I just knew in that moment of confirmation of everything that I went through in that experience that I was helping my lineage, that I was healing.
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So good, so good.
00:20:51.039 --> 00:21:01.599
So if we bring it back to your grandmother then, so you talked to her once during your awakening, and you didn't really hear from her since, besides maybe a dream or two.
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And you had asked other mediums to connect with this grandmother as well.
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So, what were what was the experience there for other people trying to connect with her?
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I will say I don't see mediums often.
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I probably see maybe about two, three.
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Yeah.
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Um and I will say when I have those two or three, like I think you did a long time ago, you connected with her a long time ago, and you said the same thing you said the other day, which was something about a dog.
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So the first, I feel like the first time I ever asked somebody, it was like very brief and it was not much.
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So I just took it as hey, I don't need to ask, I can just do it, right?
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As a medium, we're kind of like, well, I'm just gonna do it.
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And I did, and I would, but it's like I have to be so freaking demanding and strict and like direct, and I'm not really a direct demanding person, but I have to be with her, and I I said something one day that I was just so upset up and I was like, listen, I know you can send me a sign.
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I know you can.
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You're going to do it.
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I believe you can.
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I know you can.
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You got this.
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You're doing it.
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Like you are gonna show me something out of chills every time I talk like that.
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Yes.
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And I was like, so you know what, Laura?
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Get over here, show me a sign.
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And because she was a stubborn, she was stubborn and she was probably calling me an asshole the whole time.
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But she and she came through that day that I was so demanding.
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The wildest thing is she came through and she told my daughter.
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She said, she said something to my daughter.
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Like my daughter randomly goes, Mommy, can we go to pull over that cemetery?
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I've been asking for years, can we go pull over to the cemetery?
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She's asked me all the time, can we go to visit the cemetery?
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And I just never did.
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I just never, like, we're just on a mission when we're driving.
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And she was fairly young.
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So I was like, well, maybe one day.
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But one day she said it, and I'm like, oh my God, it's a sign my grandmother's telling her to go.
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Let's go.
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Yeah.
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And I just, she goes, I don't know why I said that.
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And my daughter goes, I don't know why I said that.
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Something just came through to me.
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She goes, something just told me to say that.
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And I was like, okay, so we're going.
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Let's pull over.
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We got into the cemetery and we parked and I'm walking, and she leads me over, and I look down and on my foot.
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I have a photo of this.
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I think I posted this a couple years ago.
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It says, Nana Phillips.
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My last name is my maiden last name is Phillips.
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We called her is Nana.
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Whoa.
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Oh, that's insane.
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Insane.
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I was like, I just looked around and started hysterically laughing.
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My daughter was like, what the hell is wrong with you?
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But I was just like, this is so like it never gets old, right?
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And so that was the last time that I demanded her presence because it was a lot.
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That wasn't that was a good one.
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So I was like, all right, she gave me about 15 years worth of visits.
00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:07.680
In that one with the very physical mediumship evidence in that wow, that's so cool.
00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:08.880
That is so cool.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:19.920
And so as you connect with her, or has as other mediums try to connect with her, like I think you stated that your experience tends to be very staticky and fuzzy, right?
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:25.599
So nine, so yes, like that experience was something that was definitely clear, right?
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But I don't always do that.
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I usually like, you know, I'm not I'm not doing that off like at all, ever.
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But I think I got to that point.
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But when I do just randomly, like if I was to connect with somebody else's loved one, right?
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I'm not doing that.
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I'm just opening the channel.
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And so I do that with my grandmother.
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And I feel like a lot of the messages come through fuzzy, staticky, or that like for a long time too.
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My other bouncing back to my other grandmother on my other side, she I would see her and she'd be kind of in the distance in my dreams.
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And eventually would slowly get closer and closer throughout my dream states of like as I would she would visit.
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But I feel like it was always a distance with my grandmother for some reason in in the connection of telephone, right?
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Like pick it up and be like, hey, Nana, like where are you at?
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Like where there's other loved ones that I can just ask, and they're it, they're right here, like they're there.
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So I never really took too deep in it.
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I just accepted it for what it was.
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I don't really beat myself up, I don't really get crazy about it.
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I just always say, I know you're there, right?
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I know she's around.
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I just am like, okay, there's some that are not accessible or so easily because it's the same as you know us.
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Like we have to put energy in, and we don't like I don't know what she's what she's doing on the other side.
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I wish I did, but I don't.
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I don't have that that answer.
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:09.599
And for her, it was kind of like a I would say too, because this doesn't happen in my mediumship readings.
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:16.799
I've never I I personally have never experienced a medium like a loved one not coming through closely enough.
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:17.680
Yeah.
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:26.480
Then and what I experienced with my own, I just assumed that's normal as a medium with your loved ones that are personal.
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.279
I just assume that that was if that makes sense.
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:30.480
It it totally does.
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:46.240
And I think it's a really interesting conversation because there's and we don't have to go down this rabbit hole, but as a medium, we all know that there is different strength to the connections that we can have with loved ones because a lot of the times loved ones will come through pretty clear.
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:58.960
We're able to get evidence and messages pretty clearly, but for me personally, there's a small handful of clients and departed loved ones that I've pulled through that have been like pulling teeth near impossible to read.
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.000
And I always like wondered what was going on with that.
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:03.200
So you've had that too.
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:09.279
So I will say I can tell the difference if it's me or them.
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.720
Yes, if that makes sense.
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:15.279
And so when you when I am experiencing that, I do feel like it's usually me.
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:25.680
So like if I'm emotionally or if I'm like getting my period, or okay, so I never actually thought that that was the spirit doing that.
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.240
I always felt like it was me thing.
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.279
Um but I'm not saying that's right or wrong.
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:45.359
Like I just I guess like, especially after our conversation the other day, yeah, of like being in this state of like fear or being in the state of like unknown where they're in or wherever they're at.
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:55.359
But I never actually looked at it as oh, it was, you know, I I guess I always trust spirit more than I trust myself.
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:56.000
Yeah.
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:56.559
Okay.
00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:08.000
Which is which is really interesting because mine are actually a little bit different because I will be at full-on demonstrations with multiple people, and the connection is just fine.
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.599
And then I get to one spirit and I'm like, what is going on?
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:19.440
So this was so this was a really interesting conversation with your grandmother because as I was trying to connect in with your grandmother, it was static.
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.839
Like it was, it was literally static.
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.000
And you're like, oh, it's fine, it happens all the time.
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:25.519
You know, that connection is static y.
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.960
And I'm like, but that's because she's not in the mediumship vibration.
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:46.559
So it was really interesting to kind of have that conversation and walk through that exercise with you because in my personal experience, I have seen spirits in several different places in the spirit world that lead to a distant feeling connection or a difficult connection.
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.119
And like I think we talked about some of them.
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.799
Some of them can be reincarnated, some of them can be in a healing space.
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.640
I don't know if we necessarily talked about that one.
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:56.240
Healing space for sure.
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.720
I know totally have experienced that.
00:28:58.960 --> 00:28:59.279
Perfect.
00:28:59.440 --> 00:28:59.599
Yeah.
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:01.519
Okay, so you've experienced that one.
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:09.279
And then, you know, there are some souls that choose to stay more close to this physical 3D vibration.
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.680
And that's not to say they haven't crossed over.
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:18.240
That's not to say they're stuck, but I think that there's an option for souls to stay closer to this 3D vibration.
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:25.119
And it was just really interesting because as I kind of pointed out, your grandmother, and I was like, well, she's not in the mediumship vibration.
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:26.079
She feels lower.
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:36.720
And then both of us were able to tap into her more at this 3D earthly vibration, which is, I'm gonna say it's more closer to like the spirit, uh not spirit guide, to the psychic vibration.
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.160
But then as soon as we both opened up to it, there she was.
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.359
And it was such an interesting experience and conversation for both of us.
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.279
So, like, what what are your reactions?
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:52.400
Had like were you you were able to connect with her at that lower vibrational frequency, right?
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.839
When we did that, I'm trying to remember.
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:55.440
Okay, yes.
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:02.720
Oh, I I feel like I can always connect with her if I'm hearing her, feeling her, see if that makes sense.
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:09.039
Yes, but most of the time my human brain wants a tangible thing.
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:09.680
Yes.
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:15.680
So, like, so like she will make me feel something, right?
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:26.079
Or I can I can sense that, but for me, I I do have like, especially when I ask for signs, I am more of a person, like I need a sign ear sign.
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:34.240
I need a sign and I need the evidence of that sign to show up so then you can confirm what I'm asking for, right?
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:47.119
So like I could hear her if I ask a question or you know, any of my loved ones, but like again, I trust Barrett more than sometimes I trust myself, which is something that I think just I go through up and down.
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.440
Like sometimes I'm like, oh, I fully 100%.
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.000
Like I know I trust everything, right?
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.960
But we're human, we're gonna have these ups and downs.
00:30:55.119 --> 00:31:00.960
And so with me, I like with my grandmother to show me a specific sign.
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:02.160
Like, oh, got it.
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:13.200
So it's not so much like for me with the static, the connection, got it, and the connection, but I do feel like when I ask for the sign, it is a typical static, if that makes sense.
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.200
It's not always happening with her, okay.
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:20.640
That's why that was why I was like, that's why I mentioned, oh, could you, you know, see how it feels for you?
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:23.839
Because I was like, why is this happening, right?
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.279
Like, why is it just that?
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:41.519
And I think that is that that does that clear up what I'm saying as far as signing your sign and like needing more evidence for her because it does for some reason it's not so crystal clear with me as like I hear.
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.599
So, for example, I hear a loved one and he's very clear.
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.079
He gives me the sense of feeling.
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:55.839
He see I see it, he gives me the evidence, like it's very crystal clear with him, and it's been since the literal day he died.
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.079
Like, so I kind of expect that.
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:06.160
Yeah, when he she's been gone longer, but it's not, it doesn't happen the same thing.
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:14.400
So again, it's the trust with myself, but then I'm like, okay, well, I need something to back it up, so here we are.
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:23.200
And most of the time, I don't dive too deep with it because again, she's been she's been crossed over for 20 years.
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:23.839
Yeah.
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:49.440
So I mean, how much longer, you know, I'm not gonna always do that, but I just think that it was fascinating with what you were saying, because personally I didn't even have that thought process of like, oh, she's just you know, in a lower vibration, or you were saying, you know, that she I don't know how you worded it, so I don't want to use your words, but if you explain it.
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.640
Well, it's it's just interesting because I just find that there's different places souls can be.
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.319
And I think to your point, we can always connect with all of them.
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.880
So, so it's not again like they're stuck.
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:02.559
And I'm I'm usually very careful.
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:09.359
And to be honest with you, I don't I don't explain this concept with my clients at all because I think it freaks most of them out.
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.480
But I think again, there's different places a soul can be.
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:20.960
And I think some people choose to stay closer to the earthly realm because they like to watch over their loved ones, they like to be really close into this realm.
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:37.359
And so for us as mediums, it's about understanding the different vibrations that a spirit can be in and kind of like fine-tuning your connection to amplify it when they are a little more distant or a little more difficult to connect to vibrationally.
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.359
Can I share something with you real quick?
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.440
Yeah, this just popped in my head.
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.400
So I don't know, did we talk before 9-11?
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:45.359
I can't remember.
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:45.920
No.
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:47.680
Okay, so then you don't know this.
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:57.440
So I had a dream right before 9-11 that I experienced death, like crossing over it.
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.160
Like I experienced it as a soul level.
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:07.119
And what happened is it didn't click until 9-11 happened, and I was like, oh, wait, does that make sense?
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:07.440
Hold on.
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:08.239
So let me backtrack.
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:15.599
So I saw in my dream, I was in a plane, I was literally crashing, and I was expect accepting this passing.
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.639
Like I knew that I could see another one happening, and I was embracing it, and I was like free of fear.
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.760
I had no fear, like it was the weirdest, wildest feeling.
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:30.960
And I I woke up in my dream and I was in heaven, but it was a soul school, and I was in school in heaven.
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.960
And the best way I can describe it is the feeling of liberation.
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:43.280
I had zero fear, like it was the most feeling of purity of just I didn't want to wake up.
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.199
It was getting kind of creepy when I woke up, I will say.
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:49.280
Never had anything like this in my life.
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:59.840
So, my point is I was in a school, soul school level training, and I kept on asking, and they were guiding me to where to go because they said, Where do you want to learn?
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And I said, I want to learn how to be a spirit guide.
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I need to come back and teach, I want to come back, come back and communicate with my children and my my family.
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Like, how can I communicate with my husband?
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I want to learn.
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So you go, you're going into spirit school.
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So you're gonna go over here and you're gonna be a spirit guide, and you're gonna go over here and train and how to go back.
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And I was literally in this portal of training, and I went back and communicated with my husband, and he was there, and I was like, okay, now I need to go find my kids.
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And I went back.
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I woke up wild, wild feeling.
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Like, what did I just experience?
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What it was after our conversation.
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Wow.
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And then 9-11 happened, right?
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That Memorial Day of like that energy, and I'm like, oh, I know it doesn't have anything to do with it, but it had a symbolic, you know, symbolism, if you will, to it.
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And it gave me a lot of clarity on what we were talking about.
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Oh, I love that.
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Because I think you're adding another layer that we also need to learn on the other side how to communicate back in this world.
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Correct.
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I chose over that.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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It was very interesting, needless to say, because that perspective was something I needed.
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Wow.
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It just and like we were talking a little bit before we hit record today, and I just want to reflect back like how spirit always brings you the lessons that you're meant to learn.
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And for you, dreams are such a poignant place and like palpable because you literally travel in your dream, right?
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Where you're learning the lesson.
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And so I just I love this conversation because I don't know if either of us fully have the answers to this.
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But I think what is so cool about our initial conversation and the continuation on here is how we're just open to receiving and more and like understanding that there's so much more out there in the spirit world than we possibly know.
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And so for me, I'm super hyper-vigilant to understand like there's a connection issue.
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And to your point, like, is it me or is it spirit?
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And if it's spirit, help me understand how I can fine-tune my energy to be able to get a clearer message from spirit.
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But then also at the same time, they're adding additional levels of complexity and understanding for you to make you realize that sometimes it's not you.
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Sometimes the spirit has not gone to spirit school and is not versed in communication.
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A hundred percent.
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And you're you're so accurate when it comes to being open and just and receptive and to all avenues and to know that we don't have the answers, but that's the beautiful part of the evolution and the journey of humanity is to feel it, experience it, to learn from it, evolve from it.
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And one thing that in the dream taught me too, which was the correlation of my children, was how do I want my children to see me when I'm gone?
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How does how do I want my children to be able to communicate and connect with me?
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How do I want to teach them what's real, right?
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And that the thoughts and experiences that happen when I do, when I am gone, what did I teach them?
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Is what really was the soul lesson in that for me.
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What did I teach them?
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Did I teach them what they needed to know before I left for this type of soul evolution spiritually?
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Because you didn't just go to spirit school, you're also bringing spirit school to earth to teach people how to also communicate on this side of the veil to their departed loved ones.
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Boom, Erica.
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I know, I know, it's wild.
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Like I I mean, uh mind blowing, you know.
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You can't make it up.
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No, you can't.
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It's wild.
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And I mean, I love chatting with you because I feel like everything kind of connects when we have combos, right?
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When we uh that's another thing, too, is huge, is like I always tell everyone, like, talk it out, speak it out.
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Like you will find the answers, like even when the dreams dreams are huge.
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You have to speak it out, you have to talk about it.
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Because when you the second you start talking with someone about it, all the answers, not all, but most of the answers come into fruition of like, oh, connect the dots here, connect the dots here.
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And a lot of us don't.
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And that was one thing of my whole life of childhood, and just don't say it, keep it in.
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No, you gotta get it out to know and explore.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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Oh, this was such a great conversation, Erica.
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For the listeners, where can they find you?
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You can website, socials, where yeah, my website, Simply Divine Elements.com, social media, of course.
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I'm mainly on Instagram, Simply Divine Elements.
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And yeah.
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Okay.
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And what do you have new?
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Go ahead.
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I have new courses on the lineage of light healing for yourself and for children.
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So it is based off of children as well.
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So it's a lineage healing soul deep course.
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It is not open launched yet, but that is something I'm working on, and then teaching Reiki for children as well.
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But right now, I do have my intuition development one-on-one.
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I do have my mediumship little mini course that's basically just divulging in a whole little things that I've experienced, things that I've learned in a month of training.
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So amazing.
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Oh, everyone, go give her a follow.
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What were you gonna say?
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I was just gonna say one thing I want to add is that I didn't add is with mediumship, one thing that led me to where I'm at now when mediumship happened in my life and when I started doing mediumship lessons, I felt there was needing more every time, like something needing more.
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And that's how I got into intuitive Reiki healing.
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So that is why I do both.
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When I when I work with someone on mediumship level, I do intuitive energy healing as well, um, as a secondary kind of like not just the reading, right?
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And I know we we all do incorporate healing in our readings, but the intuitive Reiki for me has been life-changing aspect.
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So that is my the main thing that I do.
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I love that.
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I love that so much.
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So go give her a follow.
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Um, I'll absolutely add all of your information in the show notes for all of you.
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And like, thank you so much for this wild, wacky conversation and being open to like discussing some of the stuff that we don't talk about in the mediumship world.
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And I think that will just allow us a springboard to learn more and receive more from Spirit overall.
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So, Erica, thank you so much for being here.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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