The Invaders Review: Quantity Unknown – Fusion Patrol Ep. 797

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Fusion Patrol. I'm Eugene.
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And I'm Kenneth.
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And tonight we are looking at episode nine of season one of The Invaders.
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Say it with me, a Quinn Martin production. In color. In color.
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Quantity unknown.
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Prologue. A mysterious light plane with no registration nor flight plan crashes.
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It is a catastrophic crash, but there are no bodies. The only thing of interest
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is a small, incredibly light, thermosized metal cylinder.
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It is sent to Sparic Laboratories for analysis.
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On the way, invaders hijack the van. A gunfight ensues with several casualties,
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including one invader, while the second gets away.
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The glowing death is seen and reported by one of the dying guards.
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Act 1. The newspaper reports draw David Vincent to the scene.
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Harry Swain, a security guard at Sparrick Labs and a friend of the deceased
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security guard, immediately notices him and eyes him with suspicion.
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Vincent goes to see Mr. Richards, who runs the lab.
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He expresses his concerns about the cylinder and posits a scenario where a group
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of people will stop at nothing to get it back.
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He convinces Richards to set a trap by pretending to send the cylinder to another
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lab, expecting the invaders to intercept it.
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The invaders are prepared to take
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the fake cylinder when they receive a last-minute tip that it is fake.
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They abort their plans, leaving Vincent with egg on his face.
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Things look even worse when the police, who weren't in favor of the plan in
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the first place, run a check on Vincent and find out he's on a wacko crusade
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against aliens from another world.
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Richards sends him away. As he leaves, Harry Swain waylays Vincent and takes
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him captive at gunpoint.
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Act 2. Harry is convinced that Vincent is an invader and knows all the essential details about them.
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Vincent overpowers Harry and then convinces him that he is not an invader.
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The invaders killed Harry's wife and child, and Harry is on the same crusade as Vincent.
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They agree to meet later and exchange information.
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That evening, Diane Oberle, the lead scientist at barrack labs,
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comes to visit Vincent. She's scared.
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So far, the cylinder's material resembles nothing on Earth, and she feels she's being watched.
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Harry calls and interrupts them. He's been attacked and nearly killed by the invaders.
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Vincent leaves to meet with him and asks Diane to return to the lab and run
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as many tests as possible on the cylinder. She agrees.
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When the two men meet, it becomes clear that the invaders plan to take that
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cylinder back soon, possibly even that night.
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They hatch a plan. Harry will get Vincent into the lab, and together they will steal the cylinder.
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Harry has a contact in military intelligence to whom they can take the cylinder
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for a full investigation.
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As they leave, we can see that the invader from the failed hijacking has been watching them.
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Act 3. They break into the lab. Harry is clearly a lot more desperate and ruthless than Vincent.
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Vincent finds Diane working on the cylinder. There's still no progress in opening
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it. Even the laser cutter fails to mark it.
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Vincent reveals that he's there to take the cylinder before the invaders can.
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She pleads with him not to, but things come to a head when Richards arrives.
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Harry shoots him. Then a gun battle ensues between Harry and the other security guards.
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The lab catches fire, and Harry is trapped behind a wall of flames.
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Unseen, Vincent gets out with the cylinder.
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Act 4. Vincent takes the cylinder to the military intelligence contact, Colonel Griffith.
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Vincent has read in the papers about Harry's death and the fact that nobody was found.
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This has made him suspicious, and rightly so, for Colonel Griffith is the invader
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we've known about since the hijacking.
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Harry walks in, not dead.
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With Griffith's hands on the box containing the cylinder, it's time to gloat
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a bit at Vincent's expense.
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When he showed up, they rearranged all their plans to involve him in the heist
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to retrieve the cylinder.
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The cylinder is very important to them, as it contains instructions from their
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home planet on how to take over the Earth.
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Fortunately, Vincent isn't as dumb as he acts, and he's hidden the cylinder.
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He draws a gun and shoots Griffith.
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But, proving that maybe he is as dumb as he acts, he doesn't turn around and shoot Harry.
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Instead, they fight, and Vincent escapes the room. He retrieves the cylinder
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from a nearby shrubbery with Harry in hot pursuit.
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Harry chases Vincent to the top of an ornamental waterfall, and after a scuffle, Harry falls.
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As his body begins to burn up, he grabs the cylinder, destroying it as he dies.
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Epilogue. Vincent calls Diane to thank her for keeping his name out of the police
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reports about the heist.
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Keeping his distance, Vincent hangs up on her, knowing that if he has friends,
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the invaders will use them against him. All right.
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Quantity unknown. What do you think of quantity unknown?
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So far, it is the episode I enjoyed watching the most.
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I would say it's probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. This one and the last one both
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have been finally sort of hitting their stride.
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You know, this one, there's a couple problems in it, but yeah,
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yeah, it's a good solid story. It's a good introduction to the show.
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Yes. And the first time through, I was guessing about who may be a merely desperate
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human and who may be an invader pretending to be a desperate human being,
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or who may be an invader pretending to be a not-desperate human being,
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it was always a good guess right up until the end.
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Yeah. Yeah, it was. I think... I don't know.
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You know, the thing is about Harry,
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you can kind of see that if Vincent has been on this quest for a few more years
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or if Vincent had lost, you know, people who are even closer to him than just his partner,
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you know in the in the architecture business and not
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to say that it wasn't his good friend but you know if he'd lost his
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wife and his child you could
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see him going down a darker path like harry
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appears to be and they even
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have that conversation where harry says well you know if
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she gets hurt i mean what's one person against all the millions that will save
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and vincent starts with the correct position we cannot become as bad as they
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are and then finally you know you're right we have to risk it kind of thing i i,
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I don't know if that lesson would be better learned if Harry was actually a human.
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Does that make sense? Yes, it
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does. However, that position is what makes this such a good red herring.
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Yeah. Yeah. And there's a scene where Diane gives Vincent all the information
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that he needs to know that Harry is the alien.
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She says he only arrived three months ago.
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He, uh, he, he doesn't talk to anybody until we got the cylinder and then he's
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like all over and now suddenly he's Mr.
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Chatty. And then he's, all he cares about is the cylinder, the cylinder, the cylinder.
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And you know, red flag should be going off there.
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But Vincent now knows that he's obsessed like he is.
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And, uh, and Vincent can see that he's like, I don't make personal friends. I'm standoffish.
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And he is right. He's, he's extremely standoff. We've mentioned that before.
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He's also gotten a man killed.
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Yeah. So, you know, he is, he can see that as being justified and go,
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okay, yeah, I can write that off as being the obsession with fighting the aliens.
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But at the same time, he should have also seen that as being,
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wait a minute, that's the exact pattern of everybody else. They moved into the
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town and bought it three months ago.
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He just became our sheriff three months ago. He, you know, this is my new employee
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I just hired three months ago. Yes.
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Yeah. So again, very good, very good red herring on it.
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So I can't fault them for that. It's just, you know, a couple of,
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the other thing that they do really well, and I don't know that it's as,
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it's not as meaningful now as it would have been then,
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but Colonel Griffith, right?
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That's Hamilton Burger from Perry Mason.
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Yes, it is. It's the actor, William Tallman.
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William Tallman.
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And Tallman, this is his last television role.
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Is it really? Okay. Well, you know, one thing about William Tallman that I will
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give the man credit for, he's had some interesting ups and downs over the years.
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His worst down was, of course, dying of lung cancer. yes um
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he is i think he may have
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been the first celebrity to record a
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hey smoking killed me he was
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don't release this you know i mean yule brenner
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famously did the same thing but william talman was i think
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the first that did that and had that released posthumously
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to to try to stop somebody from smoking you are so he also rather famously got
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fired from perry mason after a police raid at a party where there was an orgy
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and and drugs and he was never convicted of it,
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and raymond burr went out on the wire for him and and forced them to rehire
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him after all the charges were dropped, but he was gone from the series for
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like a year while they, you know,
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basically his, they, they fired him on his morality clause.
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Yes. And that, you know, which they used to have back in those days.
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That did hurt his reputation and in his career.
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Gone off my train of thought
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but the point is is that he was a very recognizable yes character
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and so you could be completely forgiven knowing
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that he's an invader that he's the main invader and
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that this is the you know the guy that we're working against they they salt
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him through the episode regularly yes and but they also make it obvious that
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at some point he got a tip off from somebody on the inside yes.
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And when i was watching the episode the second time i was looking for hints.
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And i.
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Figured out it was probably swain because he was right there at the at the at
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the laboratory he was in on the delivery of the second cylinder so he knew he
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would have just sent the message on it makes perfect sense.
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But it could have been diane because she
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was at the lab yeah yeah and and
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but there's also the scene where diane comes out and
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says oh i'm sorry i thought this cylinder had been
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sent to you i just found it sitting on the desk i did
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notice that odd it's like what what
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what is that supposed to be where the invaders outsmarted us
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and swapped it for the real one so that we are shipping the
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real one so that they can send out yeah i don't
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know but it it casts suspicion it means like something screwy is
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going on in the lab maybe means
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that whoever was meant to oh wait maybe meant whoever took it so maybe it was
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harry he was going to take it out to the car checked it realized it wasn't the
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real thing right i don't know set it down then she found it and oh well this
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should have been sent out to the thing i don't know i I thought Harry was the
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driver that took them out.
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He was took.
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Well, how did he call?
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Well, it was some point.
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How did he call Berger at that point? I'm going to call him Berger,
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whether he's good. How did he let the DA know?
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The Colonel Griffith.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's the thing. That's a good question.
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See, that's a problem with this episode. And the other problem with this episode
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is, who is it that the dying guard told about the glowing invader?
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He told Swain.
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Yeah. Why would Swain tell that to the news? why wouldn't he just leave that part out?
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Good question.
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Because that's what brought Vincent.
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Or maybe... One of those things.
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Somebody else heard it, or maybe the guy lived.
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Someone else heard it, or he lived long enough to tell somebody,
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but again, the episode doesn't tell us that.
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Yeah.
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But speaking of the colonel, while we're talking about the colonel,
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it occurs to me it takes more than three months to become a colonel.
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Yes, unless.
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I thought about that. I did, because we've had this question over and over again.
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Can they take over another person somehow?
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And again, we've not seen any proof of that.
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But there's another thing you could do. If you could get into the records department,
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you could create a fake colonel and transfer him to a new base.
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And they'd never know.
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It's true.
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So once again, they've left that open for the, I don't know.
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But yes, it did seem to me like he was legitimately a colonel,
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but on the other hand, that building didn't exactly look like a military base either.
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Now, what we can do with that is, and how did David get a civilian get on the
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grounds of a military base?
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Because a military base has gates and it has guards.
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Yeah, it didn't feel like it. It felt more like that was an office complex that
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the military had set up offices in. And I mean, that's not impossible.
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It's also a red flag.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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And as I watched the episode the second time around, I wondered,
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when did Vincent first become suspicious?
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My thought is that he became suspicious when he read there was no body.
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That would do it.
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But I think that's a big red flag at this point for, you know, this big fire.
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Harry's dead, but we couldn't find his body. Whoops.
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But I don't know. I don't know. He should have been suspicious earlier,
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but arguably, he may still not have been convinced that Harry was an invader
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because he didn't shoot him.
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This annoys the heck out of me. He had no compunction about shooting the colonel.
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But not Harry.
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Did he?
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No, he didn't.
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Okay. I'm not an advocate of murdering, even an alien, an invading alien from another planet.
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So let me just say that, you know, this is not something that I would say go out and do.
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But at the same time, in the context of the story, if you're going to murder
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somebody, an alien that's body will completely disappear in seconds is a really
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good way to get rid of the aliens.
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There's no evidence.
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There's no evidence. We talked about this definitely in one other episode,
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but he shoots the colonel.
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Maybe the colonel was going for a gun, you know, to comply with television ethics
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of what the good guy can do. But the other guy was trying to jump him.
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So just spin around, shoot Harry and walk out of the room.
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And if somebody says, I heard a gunshot, I was like, yeah, I heard that too, but no bodies, huh?
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Unless of course the whole building is populated by aliens, but you know, it's just,
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just a little convenient that you
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know if he had if he'd shot him then he wouldn't have had to worry when he was
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running out to get the the cylinder which was very stupid of him to pull the
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cylinder out if he thought harry was chasing him yes so that was dumb yes all
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i have to say is dumb dumb dumb,
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Okay. We could have had an exciting tumble off of a waterfall.
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What did they say? Did they say it was supposed to be Baton Rouge?
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Yes. New Orleans.
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That was not Baton Rouge.
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No, it was not Louisiana. It looked like California.
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Yes. And it's amazing how much Ohio looks like Southern California, too.
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Yeah, kind of, yeah. I've only seen Ohio in the winter. It didn't look like
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California then. But yeah, I get the feeling, yeah.
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The last big action scene has an actual filming location I looked up.
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It's right along a freeway in the middle of Los Angeles.
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That's what it looked like when they got the shots over the city. Yeah.
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And it's one block removed from the Catholic Cathedral, so it's not exactly
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isolated. And it's the Fort Moore Pioneer Memorial.
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Okay.
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And I, between my viewings, I brought up the episode, Act 4 of the episode, on disc.
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And on my computer, I pulled up Google Earth.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I froze frames on the DVD and I pulled up and I studied Google Earth along with Street View.
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And if, and as that is, and that waterfall is part of the part of the memorial.
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And that was the site of a military fort once upon a time.
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And the building that David Vince, and the building where the colonel had his
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office existed until 2003.
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It's gone now. And for a long time, that block was the headquarters of the school district.
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And it's now the location of a performing and dramatic arts high school.
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It definitely looked like a school district office more than it in a military
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base i will yeah i will say that you know it's it's fascinating,
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okay i'll use the word fascinating other people may not find it so but i have
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the last couple three weeks i've been watching the rockford files which has
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a ton of location footage in Los Angeles.
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I mean, it's practically 70% of the episode is shot in practical locations.
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And it's quite fun to watch Rockford drive down a street and write down the
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names of the businesses and see if any of them still exist.
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And you can find maybe one in 10.
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And sure enough, that's the street.
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In a way, it looks nothing like it because half of it will be torn down.
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And the other, you know, the side of the street where that business still looks fine.
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But if you turn around, the other side has been completely redone and modified time.
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Rockford is early 70s. So just like this late 60s, a lot has changed in Los Angeles since then.
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Oh, yes.
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But it's amazing what stands and what doesn't stand. Yeah.
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You know, Phoenix, you know, you get five, 10 years and knock it down.
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So you said it's a pioneer memorial. Now, if you're in Arizona,
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all pioneer memorials, as far as I know, are for Mormons.
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This one is too.
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Is that? Is it? Okay. Okay. They love that word for their pilgrims or whatever they call them.
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This is a memorial that goes back to the Mexican War time. Although the memorial
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itself was from 1957 or so.
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I was going to say that waterfall looked a bit newer than that, but yeah.
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But the fort was from the 1840s.
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Cool beans. Cool beans. Yeah, it was a good, a little contrived that Vincent
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decided to run up the stairs and wear himself out. But, you know.
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We did hear Harry scream as if he was terrified and in pain as he was going over the hill.
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Another emotional innovator.
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Well, okay. Talk about emotional.
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Oh, Mr. Vincent, you should feel flattered. We changed all our plans just to screw with you.
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Yeah.
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They could have just gone ahead with their plans, but instead they're like,
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wouldn't it be funny if we made Vincent do it for us? He, he, he.
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That's, that's emotion. Don't tell me that is an emotion.
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Couldn't possibly not be and and then you know clearly they're going to kill him now,
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so apparently if they can just get one good practical joke over on vincent then
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then it's okay to kill him whereas the rest of the time it's like you know don't
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kill him it'll get people suspicious yeah yeah,
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So, this cylinder, some sort of data technology that we don't understand,
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contains the plans for them to take over the planet.
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Does that mean, and I think we can actually make an affirmative statement that
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this may be true, that prior to this, the invaders have been working without a plan?
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I wondered about that. And why would they not just all know what the plan is?
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I mean, why wasn't there just a briefing before they left home?
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Or why go to the why do it this way why send it in a cylinder that wherever
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it arrives you then put it on a plane which apparently you didn't check for
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mechanical failure right,
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and fly it somewhere to get it's like it it really kind of doesn't make any sense,
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unless the plans are top secret only for the the high gorgon himself,
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could be but in which case you know he's gonna have to tell him eventually i
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don't know again it i don't know i think i would have liked it if it had been
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something else important to them,
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but i don't know what you know oh this is just our invasion plans great great
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i i just by the way you guys have been thrashing around kind of willy-nilly
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doing this doing that i i have kind of suspected you haven't got a plan you're
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really good at executing this stuff,
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You haven't got a plan to execute four. Anyway.
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You may have a point there. But speaking of that story, I did look up the writer and story by credits.
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Okay.
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The writer is Don Brinkley, who wrote three other episodes of this series.
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We haven't come to them yet.
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Oh, that's good. At least we got something to look forward to.
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And he wrote for a number of series and then went on to create Trapper John, M.D.
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Oh, Trapper John, M.D. I know a lot of people like that show.
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I always felt that was a miss.
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I mean, I don't like doctor shows anyway.
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MASH is all right. But I think I feel betrayed by Trapper John, M.D., right?
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That's Trapper John in name only. I have this idea for an ordinary doctor show,
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and how do we get people to watch it? I know.
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We'll pretend like he's a guy from a TV series that they loved years ago.
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Actually, that's a common misunderstanding, and it's a perfectly understandable one.
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Trevor John MD is a direct sequel to the movie, not the series. MASH.
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Either way.
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Either way, but yeah. But it's, yeah, it's just another hospital show that still had seven seasons.
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And the story by credit is to Mr.
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Clyde Ware, W-A-R-E, who wrote for a number of different series from 1961 to 1990.
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And the most notorious credit of them all.
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I've heard his name somewhere before, so hit me with it.
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It's a movie called Catalina Caper, which got the Mystery Science Theater 3000
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treatment in its second season on cable television.
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Oh, in Mystery Science Theater's second season.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Okay, not the show you were talking about. Surely that's a movie. Yeah.
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It's a movie, yes.
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Okay. Okay. So, wow, it's so bad they made it a series with two seasons.
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Catalina Caper is a combination of an espionage thriller and a 1960s beach movie.
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It sounds like a winner.
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And it has rock stars in it.
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Which ones?
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Little Richard, for one.
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What year was this made?
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Night was 1967.
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Oh, oh, quite a while back. Okay. Even before this. Okay.
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Probably about the time of this episode.
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Yeah, yeah. Roughly in that era. I was thinking this sounds something like late
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70s kind of plot, but no. Okay. All right.
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All right. I was going to say Little Richard. Wow.
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Damn it. Who heard of him late 70s?
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Oh, let's see. do you have anything else I don't I mean it's a it's a good episode it,
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It's, you know, I, again, I really like the fact that Vincent is so willing to accept, right?
00:27:27.114 --> 00:27:30.634
Someone else has had this experience. Someone else I can empathize.
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I mean, that's, that is, that is truly the, the core human emotion, isn't it?
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That we all have. You want other, you want to feel like other people have had
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the experience that, you know that that you and they have have something that
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especially when you feel like,
00:27:52.214 --> 00:27:57.574
you're in it all alone right that that that is such a powerful feeling that
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oh i'm not alone someone else has had this too and vincent falls for hook line
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and sinker and i i feel bad for him,
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i really feel bad for him but you know he has he has been a man without empathy
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throughout the entire series so far so it's true i guess that will burn him
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and he won't he won't do that again well.
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We'll see the i do have some exercises in pedantry.
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Well we all need to exercise our Pedantry bones occasionally.
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Like why was there a California flag flying in Ohio?
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That sort of thing sister cities program okay sister states.
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Program in this case.
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Ohio and california are sister states okay yeah
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okay and the really big one
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swain was in the water he was turning red he was about to cease to exist oh
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yeah and he reached through the metal bars of that fence to grab the cylinder
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and he burned up the cylinder but he did no damage to the bars and the fence.
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Or to the water.
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Or to the water. And in every other time we have seen an invader go red and cease to exist,
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have we seen, I mean, other than black marks, have we seen any damage to property?
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No. No. I mean, their clothes burn up, and I think anything they're holding
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has burned up in the past.
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Guns, discs, whatever.
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But yeah, no, we haven't. And I, you know, I don't think we've seen,
00:29:50.822 --> 00:29:53.342
well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on. Yes, we have.
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Didn't, didn't in the episode where they were trying to regenerate the professor
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in the water tank, didn't killing one of the aliens start a fire in the lab?
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So, I mean, there is some exothermic reaction there.
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But it's inconsistent. You would think, you know, shoot them in their car.
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Like the time the two guys were killed in the car.
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Just last time.
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Would the upholstery catch on fire?
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We would think, but we never saw that.
00:30:29.766 --> 00:30:34.766
Yeah. So, you know, it's a convenient way to get rid of the body.
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Another reason why I think Vincent should just shoot them.
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Yes, it should. Nobody has to know. No evidence.
00:30:42.286 --> 00:30:45.706
I mean, sure, there's that burn spot that looks like a guy on the ground,
00:30:45.926 --> 00:30:48.046
but how could I have done that?
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I mean, that's a graffiti artist or something. Yeah. Yeah, it's.
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And and you know i think the other thing to that is that
00:30:58.626 --> 00:31:05.726
i don't think we've ever seen an alien die that slowly no it's been he was glowing
00:31:05.726 --> 00:31:11.566
and he knew usually they they barely hit the ground they're they're burning
00:31:11.566 --> 00:31:17.106
up on the way to the ground and then gone so did the fall kill him,
00:31:18.126 --> 00:31:23.306
I guess Are they allergic to water?
00:31:23.926 --> 00:31:26.106
Did the water delay the reaction?
00:31:27.346 --> 00:31:28.446
Oh, kept him cool maybe.
00:31:28.446 --> 00:31:33.726
Yeah But then I would have seen steam rising Or something, I would think.
00:31:35.471 --> 00:31:39.651
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's all right.
00:31:39.791 --> 00:31:43.851
It's all right. I'll, I'll, I'll cut them some slack. If they remake that episode
00:31:43.851 --> 00:31:49.651
in, you know, this, this century, then I expect there to be steam.
00:31:50.011 --> 00:31:55.771
I expect there to be, you know, a proper consideration of how much heat is released.
00:31:56.231 --> 00:31:59.591
Because i want somebody i want a scientist to say oh you know the only way they
00:31:59.591 --> 00:32:05.251
could have burned that cement is if it had been 700 degrees celsius you know
00:32:05.251 --> 00:32:09.091
or something and then from that point on then we can work out should it have
00:32:09.091 --> 00:32:11.071
melted the bar should it have burned the car,
00:32:11.751 --> 00:32:18.891
yeah stuff like that okay they when they remake this series that's a must but.
00:32:18.891 --> 00:32:24.411
Other than that But I only have the title for the next episode.
00:32:25.351 --> 00:32:26.491
Which is?
00:32:26.731 --> 00:32:27.671
The Innocent.
00:32:28.031 --> 00:32:35.831
The Innocent. All right. Well, in that case, I wonder if the innocent really are innocent.
00:32:36.751 --> 00:32:37.831
I'm guessing not.
00:32:37.831 --> 00:32:41.811
I wonder if the innocent are invaders. Or perhaps it's one of those things like,
00:32:41.831 --> 00:32:45.631
you know, who gets hurt in war? It's the innocent. Yeah.
00:32:45.631 --> 00:32:53.311
What I do know for sure is that it is one of two episodes on the DVD set to
00:32:53.311 --> 00:32:56.591
have a commentary track, so I'll listen to it.
00:32:56.831 --> 00:33:04.471
Oh, interesting. Okay. Okay. I guess I might. I might. Is it David Roy Thinnes?
00:33:04.751 --> 00:33:07.511
I haven't gotten that far.
00:33:08.111 --> 00:33:11.731
Ah. All right. Well, Kenneth, thank you for joining me.
00:33:11.991 --> 00:33:12.651
My pleasure.
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Listeners i do hope you'll join us all again next time on fusion patrol.