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it can feel complicated, but when people have experiences, trauma, whatever, it can just be like you had an argument with someone.
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But if you haven't been able to express, the whole thing out, we'll bury it in tissue.
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So it literally will store at the cellular level in the body, which can then be the cause of illness.
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I personally believe that it is the cause of illness, that and, environmental-type things that we're exposed to.
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but we bury stuff because, one, we're not allowed to act a certain way per society.
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It's not appropriate for me to punch you if I'm mad at you, right?
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But I still may need to express something without punching you.
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I might need to go to a room and punch a pillow or yell into it and do that more primal type of a- Release?
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movement release.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Where, like, in our society, that's not okay.
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that's not been voted something y- you're allowed to do, so people- Just bury all that stuff down Which is what makes people, habitually mad.
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we all know somebody who's just kinda like- Mad.
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They're, like, angry at the world.
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they're not angry at anything, they're just angry.
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Or somebody who's sad, who might be depressed, whatever it is.
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A lot of times, it's buried old stuff.
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It might be from when they were a kid.
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a situation, their brother took their toy, but Mom told you weren't allowed to be mad about it.
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It's not okay to cry.
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Yeah.
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yeah.
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It's written in our body.
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And then you- we g- live our whole life and we become adults, and then some people have a hard time expressing how they feel or crying, letting the tears out.
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That's part of, like, the healing process of coming in and you maybe receiving body work with me and having a conversation and the story come up out of the body-
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Welcome to Rooted, Stories of Faith, Growth, and Changed Lives.
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I'm Todd.
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These conversations aren't about perfect answers or polished stories.
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You don't have to have it all figured out to be here.
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You just have to be willing to listen.
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Today, I'm sitting down with Robin.
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Robin and I met through the CrossFit gym, and it took a morning coffee date to get to know each other two or three years ago.
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and what stood out to me most about Robin was her ability to have a safe conversation with, knowing...
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even the first time I sat down with you, being able to share some things I'd never shared with other people before.
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you bring that energy to the room of, it's okay to come in and sit down and have a seat and share what's on your mind.
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it's a very comforting feeling to be around you,
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Thanks for having me.
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There's nothing to perform here.
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It's just a conversation between the two of us.
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We'll move through stories and a few other topics that we have planned and maybe not planned out.
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before faith or growth entered the picture what did life feel like?
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Life was heavy.
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I had fun.
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I feel like on the outside everything was fun and good, but there was a lot to carry because I hadn't done the work on myself.
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So it was a performance, essentially.
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you're performing for the world, and then you go home and you're like, take off all the things, and what's left of you?
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Not
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Yeah.
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What's at the- Yeah what's at the core?
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What's underneath all that stuff?
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Yeah.
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And you and I get to talk about this a lot How many coats were you carrying at the time?
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Yeah, the coats.
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I don't know.
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Countless.
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Whether it was through work, family, things I carried that I didn't wanna share or tell people about my life.
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even just in the sense of, fitting into a group that I didn't even wanna fit into, but that required, me to show up and drink every weekend and be out of control, of myself.
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The alcohol would do that where- but it was like, that's what you're supposed to do.
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So you keep showing up in the way you're supposed to for society or the people that are in your life so you can keep them.
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You don't make other people uncomfortable if you just do what everyone else is doing.
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And so I continued to do that for a lot of years, to the point that it was really uncomfortable for myself.
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What kept you rooted back then?
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Or was there anything that kept you rooted back then?
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knowing who I was inside, like my own relationship with myself, it was like its own battleground, I guess you could say.
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I knew...
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I had a pull that I knew what was right, but there was a fear of losing people in my life.
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if I was all of who I am, who would walk away from me?
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So the rooted piece of me knew who I was.
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It was coming back home, like being home- was safe.
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my marriage was safe.
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We had a lot of things to work on, but it w- has always been a place that I could go and be who I am.
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Zach's a person who's seen all of the pieces of me and just never wavered to like,"Okay, and we'll work through that." but like coming back home and just being like outside with my horses, with any of my animals, like animals are at the root of who I am, helping rescue.
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I guess truth- truthfully, they rescue me, too.
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But from the people side of it, like rescuing animals and bringing them in and giving them a place to heal and know that they're safe, yeah, like literally my feet in the dirt, rooted in the earth.
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I think it's pretty cool that you do that for animals and you do it for humans.
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That's the Robin that I know now.
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I didn't know the previous Robin, We had seen each other.
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We'd passed each other at the gym, but never really had a conversation until we went and had that coffee.
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and you've helped me out a ton of...
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I remember going to have coffee that morning.
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a week later, I was leaving for an experience to go out to San Francisco at the time I think it was when I went to San Francisco and I came back I and I came back and was in a, what I felt like it was a heavier space than before I left to go there.
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And I was like,"Hey, Robin, like I, I need help." And it was pretty cool that, that God put you in my s- put you in my pathway even before I was a believer He put you in my path.
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I went to California, had this experience, came back, felt heavier, and there you were when I got back.
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We'd already started a relationship or a friendship and get back in.
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You helped me pull through some, or walk through some dark times with me and helped me process a lot of things, so it's...
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One, I'm al- I'm always grateful for that, and it's also very interesting that you say that you help animals do that same thing from rescue or...
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I think I've seen you rescue everything from miniature donkeys to cats to countless other things that I know that Zach has said,"Now, what is Robin bringing home now?"
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Yep.
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Yeah, that's a regular conversation.
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luckily, again, he is supportive in that.
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Right.
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And'cause it is part of, my lifeline-
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It's who you are
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So he, he hasn't been, like, a hard stop.
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Yes, he does say no sometimes- and that's reasonable.
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But just this winter I brought home four kittens that were orphaned, and two of them are...
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You wouldn't know it, Zach loves them.
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Right.
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But he was kinda like,"What are we gonna do with four kittens?" And I'm like,"We're gonna raise them, and it's gonna be great." And it is.
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they all blend together.
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And, two of them, friends of ours have.
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They're little girls who were really excited to have them.
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So we get stories about the defective kittens that I gave them, because they've had them chase them down the road in their car as though they're dogs, like chasing them when they leave, to being on the roof.
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She, my girlfriend had to go pick them up at someone's house'cause they just love people.
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And I'm like,"Well, they didn't have a mom.
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I was their mom.""So of course they wanna be with you guys."
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Sure.
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When did you start to realize that the alcohol and the other things weren't enough?
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the thing that comes forward is, self-abandonment.
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it was a way of abandoning myself.
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the alcohol would numb the things, like the dealing with what's actually happening, like looking inward and seeing, old wounds that I had as a kid that I just, I needed to look at, and essentially re-parent my child self.
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I'm an adult now, and having a relationship with the kid that I was, and being the parent that I needed.
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Not that my parent...
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Not that I had, terrible parents or anything, but there's no manual when you get a kid, right?
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When you have a kid.
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Like- There shouldn't be do what you can with what you have.
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And so there were things that I needed as a kid that I now can provide for myself.
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But it took a long time of, being able to really pull back the layers and see myself, one, as a kid, like what I needed, and what I need now as an adult that I don't need to seek outside of myself.
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I was chasing whatever thing, whatever feeling, how I wanted to be, look, whatever, outside of myself when it was all inward work
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And Do you think that a lot of people are afraid to look inward?
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Absolutely.
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And just keep chasing?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's uncomfortable.
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Yeah.
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It's uncomfortable, and it's a place that when you get there, it can feel really raw to be in that space.
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To be vulnerable enough to say, one, I have these things.
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and to be an adult, to be, for me, in my 30s, I'm like,"Why would I feel like this?
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Like, why am I upset about this?
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Why do I wanna cry about that?
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I'm an adult.
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That shouldn't bother me." But the truth is, it does.
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It did bother me.
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things that happened in my past, th- relationships I did or didn't have with family members, losing my uncle, in a tragic accident.
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there were things that happened that I then felt abandoned in life, and I also abandoned myself- So the relationship that needed fixing or work was actually my own relationship with myself And that is really raw to, then admit and own your own stuff.
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Yeah.
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And be like,"Oh, yeah, I'm at the center of problem."
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Of me.
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Yeah.
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I'm at the center of all of this, and so I'm gonna have to look at me and own my stuff.
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And there's a lot of, forgiveness for the people around you who did or didn't know or have the tools to be what you might have needed- at a certain time in your life.
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And learning the tools that you do need so you can be that for yourself.
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Which has provided a space for me to be, show up differently for people around me
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Two things came up.
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One of the hardest things to do is look in the mirror.
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It's easy to point fingers.
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the hardest thing is to do is look in the mirror like,"Oh, yeah, I did that." and it's...
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I know you have given me this drill, Go home and look in the mirror.
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literally stare yourself in the mirror for five minutes, 10 minutes, whatever that takes.
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At some point, for me, I remember at some point I saw somebody different in there.
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oh, there is somebody else inside that mirror that does need work done, because it is so easy to blame everybody else for your defaults or your faults and just keep pointing fingers or numb it.
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Yeah.
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So it is, it does take work.
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And then at your...
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The second point that you made was Being able to turn around and help other people in the boat, get them out of the water and pull them up I'm glad you did that personally.
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and I know that you've helped a ton of other people, and also animals.
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Being able to help them give them a new life, give men, women, children, high school girls, whatever, boys- Yeah of helping them through.
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Now you get to go back and shepherd them and help them through life, guide them.
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it's pretty cool to see that you've taken yourself through those journeys of healing to be able to, and now go back and help.
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"Oh, I've been there.
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I can help you with that," or Guide you along.
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Yeah.
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It's, and like for me, like going back now and coaching high school basketball, so being with, teenage girls.
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Right.
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curmudgeon.
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my main focus or like goal when I go in there, intention maybe, is just to be another adult in their life that would be the kind of adult I would've needed then.
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I get to be an extra person in their life.
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I don't know what they all go home to.
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I don't know what that looks like, what their personal lives are like, boyfriends and friends, and it's complicated at that age.
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but I am a landing spot if they need it.
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It's a place where you can have a conversation.
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You can say the thing you need to say, and with the exception of if it's going to hurt someone or, themselves, it stays with me.
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It's a place that you can just say what you need to say, and we can move forward, and if you need tools or help, I can be there.
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But I didn't have that as a high schooler.
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when I think back to my coaches, we never had that.
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It was,"We're here to win." I'm sure I learned a lot of life lessons growing up through coaches-
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Absolutely
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But having somebody there with the intention of,"We're here to grow as a team.
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We're here to grow as humans.
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If we win, that's a byproduct."
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Absolutely.
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I think people often miss that of sports and other things,
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Yeah, and I can say the reason I stepped into that is when I met our head coach, who I didn't know prior to this, one of her main things was that they're people.
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they're not just basketball players.
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they're their own human being, and it's really the goal is to help them be better adults when they step out into the world and have more tools so that they can navigate the things they're gonna bump up against because let's be real, life does that.
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whether they're in your control or not, and there's consequences for whatever actions there are.
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And so holding them accountable but, also giving them a place to, express what they need to or feel what they need without shame or guilt, and so they can keep moving forward and hopefully they can become people, adults in life who can give space to other people as well.
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Turn around and do that for somebody else.
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Yeah.
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It would be interesting to know that how many of those girls have learned the tools that Robin has taught them and have already turned around to help somebody else.
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I'm sure it's happening.
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It's that, ripple effect of what happens when-
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Absolutely
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when you get to work, one-to-one.
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if you were, you and I get to work together, what happens when we walk away?
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Because- We both receive and then, I get to turn around and go out in the world and there's something, a nugget that I got from Todd- that I then spread.
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Yep.
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Or a perspective shift.
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Yep, absolutely
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from this basketball season.
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Some- something has happened that they've taken away and then shared with a friend or a family member or...
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Who knows where, we don't know where it goes.
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goes.
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there was a a ripple effect.
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You help a friend's friend.
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it goes, three layers deep is how far that goes.
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If you're a smoker, you're probably gonna hang around with a smoker who's going to...
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It goes three layers deep.
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But if you are a, somebody that helps people be better people, be better humans, how much that ripple effect can go also three layers deep of...
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So one of the girls on your basketball team could be helping a friend's friend go through something tomorrow.
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We'll never see it.
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You'll never see it, but to know that how that or that happens.
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I feel like that kind of ties to, the faith piece of doing the work.
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just sometimes you do the work, and, you don't see anything happen, right?
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you're just like,"I don't know.
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I showed up, and I had the conversation-" and I don't know that, I don't know what happened.
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I don't know what happens when you leave the room," right?
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having faith that whatever transpired in a session, in a conversation with somebody, that it impacted them enough to then impact the next person, the next layer- of the ripple, and it is the things you maybe don't ever see or know about.
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Most of life that we never know, how it works- Yeah or wh- what happens next.
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Trust in the process.
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Ooh, that leads to the next question.
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We just talked a little bit about faith in, in the process, but where does faith or where did faith start to move from an idea to something real for you?
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even just what you just said, having faith that it's going to happen.
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I think some of it is evidence-based oddly enough, right?
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sometimes faith is like the...
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It's kind of blindly, you're blindly going with just faith that it's gonna work out.
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But there's also, coming, stepping into, honestly being fed up with my own self- In the process of, navigating all these different pieces of myself, being fed up with myself enough to step in and peel back the layers and look.
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And then in doing my own work, knowing that, I can see the change in that.
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I can see where I was and where I am now, and sometimes it is hard to see that anything's changed'cause you're like,"How am I in this thing still?" with a certain person or whatever.
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But when you can look at, the stuff you didn't pick up, the coat you didn't pick up, like- So then when you sit with someone and you give them space to talk and to express what they've been in through, are experiencing currently, I know something's happening.
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That is- It's wor- like the faith it's,
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that's faith.
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That is the faith.
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I don't have to see the outcome of, what it is, but I know in that process, you and I sit down and you share that story, whatever it is, or experience that you had, something's already working.
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Something's, yeah.
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Something's already- it's working in you.
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Which leads me to a n- then our next topic.
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I've known you, and I know the work that you do-
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Like that it's working in
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So the stories that we, the stories that we carry, the codes that we carry.
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Let's talk a little bit about, I'm always intrigued by the stories that come out of me when you and I work together.
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one of the things you do or have helped me with was help bring stories out of my body.
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You are a licensed massage therapist, but you're so much more than that.
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It's not, I can't even put into words what you do.
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Tell me a little bit about Your thoughts on the emotional baggage that we carry in our bodies.
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It can feel complicated, but when people have experiences, trauma, whatever, it can just be like you had an argument with someone.
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But if you haven't been able to express, the whole thing out, we'll bury it in tissue.
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So it literally will store at the cellular level in the body, which can then be the cause of illness.
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I personally believe that it is the cause of illness, that and, environmental-type things that we're exposed to.
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but we bury stuff because, one, we're not allowed to act a certain way per society.
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It's not appropriate for me to punch you if I'm mad at you, right?
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But I still may need to express something without punching you.
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Like, I might need to go to a room and punch a pillow or yell into it and do kind of that more primal type of a- Release?
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movement release.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Where, like, in our society, that's not okay.
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Like, that's not been voted something y- you're allowed to do, so people- Just bury all that stuff down Which is what makes people, like, habitually mad.
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Like, we all know somebody who's just kinda like- Mad.
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They're, like, angry at the world.
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they're not angry at anything, they're just angry.
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Or somebody who's sad, who might be depressed, like, whatever it is.
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A lot of times, it's buried old stuff.
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It might be from when they were a kid.
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Like, a situation, their brother took their toy, but Mom told you you weren't allowed to be mad about it.
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It's not okay to cry.
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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yeah.
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Heard that and things that are written in our...
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It's written in our body.
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And then you- we g- live our whole life and we become adults, and then some people have a hard time expressing how they feel or crying, letting the tears out.
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So in working with people, like in being in a space where you do feel comfortable or safe, the nervous system, literally the nervous system then can start to release that.
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That's part of, like, the healing process of coming in and you maybe receiving body work with me and having a conversation and the story come up out of the body- Yeah where, like, you can feel tension in the body or maybe your neck is hurting.
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So what are you storing there, Todd?
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And then a s- a story that you're like,"Where did that come from?" about the most random thing.
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That you're like,"I didn't even know-" Yeah that was a thing in my life." It was stored in your neck.
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And I still find that it's- I don't know, it's awesome to watch it happen, to be part of that, and I know I've gotten to experience both sides of that, helping somebody facilitate or- Actually, it just happened yesterday.
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Yeah.
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it, it was, call it intuitive hit or something, whatever you wanna call it, Yeah
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Yeah, it was a really cool exchange.
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It was pretty cool.
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And, like, that story, for me, it wasn't like some crazy, horrific thing that happened to me.
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I was out riding horses with a girlfriend, and long story short, I fell off on the shoulder.
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So I had s- that story stored in my shoulder.
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Mm.
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And you were able to help me, one, talk the story out and release that, release it from my shoulder.
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Like, and it's, it's such a, a feeling of, like, I don't know, freedom, when you get to, like, again, take something off that your body's been carrying.
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And that was probably- 12 to 15 years ago- Mm that that happened.
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So I've been carrying that around in my shoulder.
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And like my shoulder doesn't hurt today- Literally at all.
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and that's like a cr- it would be like a chronic issue.
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It is pretty wild.
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And I know that,"You're working on a muscle on me," and you could see it something in my face or something in me shifted and you said,"You can either let that story go, you can tell me what was in there, or you can bury it back in and you'll see me in a couple weeks to try to go through it again." I'm like,"Dang it.
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Okay." And to be able, Feeling safe enough to let that story out- is for sure is a key to that.
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and I think the other part of that is that's where dis- disease comes from is- dis-ease.
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Disease.
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In the body
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in the body.
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how did you...
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When did you first learn that you had this- gift of helping people?
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I think honestly at a young age, I had a weird knowing that I could help people in these other ways.
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I had interesting connections, like with my great-grandma and things like that where I had like really intuitive things that would happen or that I would know that was like, how does she know that?" and I do think it is a skill of like from being a kid, my dad could be hot-tempered when I was a kid.
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so I learned to read rooms really well,'cause that's uncomfortable.
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So like I learned to pick up of like how was my dad feeling?
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How was my mom feeling?
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I could feel on other people's emotions and whether that was I was naturally gifted that in some way, but also a learned skill through your experiences of what's happening in the room.
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Yeah.
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How am I gonna act in the room because of what else is happening in the room?
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If that makes sense.
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absolutely.
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And then I was gonna...
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I went, actually I was going to school to be a dentist, oddly enough.
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That's what I was gonna go to college for- Really?
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to be a dentist.
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right.
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there's a whole story there, with college and friends and experiences that happened, but long story story- short, I took a semester off when I realized that was not gonna be my jam, and I went to a car show and found, at Ivy Tech, went in to use the restroom and found that they had a massage program.
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I was like,"That's what I'm gonna do." Most random.
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Again-
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Awesome
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put divine placement.
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Sure.
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I was where I w- I needed to be at the right time.
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I just wanted to help people feel better.
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that's essentially what happened, but then in the doing, being one-on-one with people and learning the body in different ways, and, having really great teachers when I was in school, that was helpful, too.
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really it was probably years into doing body work that I had this"Oh, there's a lot more happening than,'Oh, your muscles are just tight.
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Here you go.''Here's your massage.
00:24:00.603 --> 00:24:05.692
You feel better.'"See you later." Like, why do those same muscles hurt, for the last three years?
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yes, we have injury, but if you get, 8 to 16 weeks out and you're still having, the same pain, like, you haven't had change in it, there's probably a layer of a mental, emotional thing tied to it.
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Because even when you have an injury, sprain my ankle.
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I'll do that every now and then, roll my ankle,'cause I had an injury in high school, and I can hear the dialogue in my head like,"So dumb.
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Why would you do that?
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Like, why'd you get on the counter to get to the top shelf and then jump down?" But that's a, that gets stored.
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the way I talk about myself, like what happened around that, and if I can't release the situation, now I might have a pain in my ankle that I have to work through, but it's not because my ankle physically maybe needs something.
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It's because I need to process the situation.
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Too heavy, yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's, funny you bring up ankle.
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we did some work together on my ankle.
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"Todd, what are you carrying?" Or are you holding onto," or,"What are you digging your heels into?" being able to let that go and- I'm back to...
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it wasn't that long, back to running, back to my normal things.
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And do you think that people go to the doctor?
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Obviously, w- people need to go to the doctor for s- some reasons.
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Yeah.
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do you think it's too much has become a social norm just to,"Oh, my ankle hurts, I'm gonna go to the doctor"?
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I think, people want a quick fix.
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We live in a very immediate gratification world.
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So it's easier to go to the doctor and hope they can just give you the pill that makes everything better, which is, part of our downfall, just in general in our society, where there's the, there are these other layers of work mentally, emotionally, spiritually, that we skip over.
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and it's not to necessarily to the fault of society as a whole, I just think it's the way we've been conditioned into this life.
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Even from like a physician's standpoint, they've been trained in a certain way, and they believe wholeheartedly in what they do.
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And they do really great things, right?
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we need them and what they do and their knowledge and...
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there is another layer of our healing that I think gets overlooked a lot.
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I was talking to somebody from the hospital last night.
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I think their average turnaround time is 7.6 minutes.
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That's how long a doctor sees a patient.
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What can you and I get done in 7.6 minutes?
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You don't get to any of the mental, emotional, spiritual, like knowing a person.
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People need a place to be seen and heard, and they're not getting...
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I think it's something you used to get with your physician.
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Like I- when you think of, the old school doctors who would, spend the time with you.
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They knew you.
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They knew where you lived.
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They knew what your job was.
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Absolutely.
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They'd see you in the grocery store, and they knew all about your whole life.
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Our doctors don't know that now because they can't.
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They are in a system that keeps them from being able to build true relationships with people, which also then makes it really hard to help people get better.
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Cause it, if you don't feel like your doctor cares, which is how I've felt in the past, I'm like, I'm not doing what they told me to do." I'm out."
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Yep.
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And I wonder how much that happens with other people who do have really serious things going on that truly do need their physician.
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there are a lot of things happening, but when we don't give people space to talk and to feel through anything, and we just throw the next, Band-Aid.
00:27:24.146 --> 00:27:26.356
Band-Aid on them, and don't fix the actual problem.
00:27:26.626 --> 00:27:26.817
Yeah.
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we skip the root cause.
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The root ca- right.
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Very much That's where the incredible people like Robin come in and help facilitate those,
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It's okay to let them work together, and sometimes we do need- Nope.
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Absolutely a Band-Aid.
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Like you have to stop the bleeding, right?
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Like you have to...
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But there are other layers to illness than just I have X, Y, Z.
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And that- that's another thing in the way we talk about- The way we talk about disease, like owning something.
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Like a s- a person who has cancer walking around saying,"I have cancer." You're experiencing cancer.
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You don't have it.
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Don't own it as yours.
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Don't own that into your body as though that is a definite'cause you don't have to keep that.
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You spoke it into yourself.
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You literally...
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When...
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Yes, you and I talk about this a lot.
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You speak it into your own being.
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"Yes, I have cancer."
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It becomes part of your identity.
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who you are.
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And for me, I have not had cancer.
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I've not experienced cancer in that way, right?
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But I know I would give a valiant effort to not own that in my body.
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And I would ask the people around me not to speak it into my body also.
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'Cause that's a conversation tool.
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I don't have it.
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I'm...
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How easy it is to talk ourselves into being sick of, I have a cold.
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Oh, I just don't feel good today."
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Yeah.
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I like that shift of perspective from I have to I'm experiencing.
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it is work to be in that space because the normal way we would talk about that and the way we've learned through our own lives is that you have X, Y, and Z.
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So it, it does take effort.
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I find I say it sometimes, and I'm like,"Ooh, I don't like how that sounds.
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That.
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"We're gonna rewrite that." And just having, in those moments, having gratitude for your body and what your body is capable of doing.
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your body has carried X, Y, and Z around whatever stories and emotional things.
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Thank you for keeping me safe.
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Thank you for giving me the ability to still do life.
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I'm still walking around a functioning member of society even though I have had these experiences that I've carried, and it's safe now to let these go.
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you're doing the work and you're giving the space to allow things to move through and leave the body
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A lot of the population needs to hear things like that of One, we talk ourselves into, to a lot of things.
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We can talk ourselves into and out of almost anything we want.
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We can talk ourself- Absolutely into being sick.
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We can talk ourself into...
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You and I have witnessed it at the gym.
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We can talk ourselves into a workout, and we can talk ourself out of a workout.
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We can talk ourself into- feeling like you wanna go for a run, and you can talk yourself just as much out of it.
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And it, um...
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We'll touch, touch a little bit on the spiritual side of that, is every time you talk yourself out of it, you're letting the enemy...
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You're cracking that door open for the enemy to let it happen again the next time.
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Every time you speak yourself into, I'm tired today, I don't wanna go to the gym," or every time you get up and hit snooze, you let the enemy have that little...
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You just open that door up a little bit wider every time you do that.
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But it's also true of every time you say yes to yourself, it's easier to say yes to yourself the next time.
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If you make an appointment with Robin and share some things, for me, the next time I go back to have an appointment with Robin, h- and how much easier it is to say yes and share that next layer of the onion that got peeled back of-
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Yeah
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Or next time you went for that, if you did a half-mile run, when you go to a three-quarter or one-mile run, it makes it that much easier.
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and speaking life into yourself, oh, I ran that a mile last time.
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Maybe I can run two miles this time," or,"I did it in 10 minutes this time, I can do it in nine." so it, it's easy to spin that both ways of into the negative or into the positive, letting the enemy in that...
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We're, I'm reading a book, Don't Let the Enemy Sit at Your Table.
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We let him sit at the table, he's going to pull up a chair just as fast as he can.
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We know that.
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Yeah.
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I need the help.
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I need some help letting that out.
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I- that's for me personally.
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I've let the enemy creep in and store that, and, it's, it manifests or it festers until you, until I realize that, oh, s- X, Y, Z is going on.
00:31:50.787 --> 00:31:56.787
One, having the tools to process it myself now, or if I don't, it's a phone call or whatever.
00:31:56.787 --> 00:32:01.106
It's an appointment with- Yeah with somebody to help get through that, Very good conversation.
00:32:01.106 --> 00:32:12.106
One I think that a lot of, whether you're a believer, a Christian or not, needs to hear how much stuff, trauma or even the good stuff that we've...
00:32:12.906 --> 00:32:13.747
There's a good question for you.
00:32:13.747 --> 00:32:22.477
How many stories have you heard of maybe not a trauma Have you been working on somebody that had a, cool, incredible story from your childhood come up?
00:32:22.856 --> 00:32:22.967
Oh, yeah.
00:32:22.967 --> 00:32:23.146
Yeah.
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That happens all the time.
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Okay.
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Which is really neat to have, people be able to share, these really fun, happy-
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Right
00:32:30.247 --> 00:32:31.497
funny memories that they have.
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And sometimes it will come from, I've had stories come up about my uncle who has been gone now for over 10 years, and but it's a way for me to get to share and remember and keep him alive in my life.
00:32:45.846 --> 00:32:59.207
And those things do happen where they come up, and people will, laugh, and you have to be like,"What was that?" they have a,"Oh," and a story comes out, something really cool, something random- something playing with their brother when they were a kid or whatever it is.
00:32:59.207 --> 00:33:01.406
There are really great things that come through.
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And in sharing stories, because of my background with being a massage therapist, understanding the body and working with the body and then stepping into the coach training that I've done and being in the coaching side of it, we have a conversation about the things, and there can be perspective shifts around what feels really heavy and negative and how it's actually can serve in a positive way in your life.
00:33:24.557 --> 00:33:25.817
So that's another, piece of that.
00:33:25.817 --> 00:33:31.987
So bringing out the really happy stories, but also the things that feel heavier, more sad can also serve you in a positive way.
00:33:32.086 --> 00:33:32.366
Sure.
00:33:33.027 --> 00:33:34.287
Yeah, you did that for me yesterday.
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What?
00:33:35.646 --> 00:33:55.076
One, one simple perspective shift of having a credential of- going into rooms that a lot of people aren't allowed into, of how heavy that was, not heavy that was for on, but just heavy weight on me of having this responsibility when you're like,"Todd, it's just, it's a key for Todd to go in.
00:33:55.287 --> 00:34:06.217
It's a key for the door to go in and just Todd be Todd." Um, how much of a weight that lifted off of me yesterday, oh, I have the credentials to walk through the door now to be able to be me.
00:34:06.487 --> 00:34:11.047
That was an incredible shift for me yesterday and- how much freer I feel today.
00:34:11.597 --> 00:34:23.427
So it is, yes, the good stuff is also fun and perspective shifts that we can't see ourself, that people like you get to help facilitate to others.
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and like you.
00:34:24.387 --> 00:34:29.686
You get to go and sit with people and have those types of conversations and shift what's happening in the room.
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Because you can bring a different lens or a different perspective to what their experience is They might not even be in the present.
00:34:36.336 --> 00:34:46.367
So sometimes helping people come back into present and into their body as opposed to in their head and helping them feel and shift, like, where they wanna go.
00:34:46.617 --> 00:34:48.617
Like, how are they gonna attack this next thing?
00:34:48.617 --> 00:34:50.626
How are you gonna move forward in, in life?
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Coming back into the body is a pretty cool experience when you experience it.
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Yeah.
00:34:58.416 --> 00:35:00.746
Not knowing,"Oh, it's just my body.
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I'm wasting my body," until you experience Coming back to your body?
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"Oh, that's what that means."
00:35:07.277 --> 00:35:11.407
you're like,"I wasn't actually ever in my body." And I do think that's one of those...
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I think a lot of people are not in their body and are not connected to it in that way, and sometimes it does take help from someone else.
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Like working with another person, whether it's you or myself or Cathy, like other people that we know that do that type of work.
00:35:28.686 --> 00:35:39.547
but that being in your body and learning how to have a relationship with your body- I think is key to having ultimately people having life that they wanna have.
00:35:39.597 --> 00:35:42.177
we live in a society that tells us to be very heady.
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In our head it's all logical, that's the place you always come from it.
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But your head isn't even the place that decisions get made.
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That's all in your body.
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So learning how to receive information, to feel what's in your body, and sometimes you don't need to know why, like why a thing is there.
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Sometimes we don't know the story.
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sometimes that is a piece and sometimes it's not, so connecting in and having the ability to just call it what it is.
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"Ooh, I feel that in my chest.
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It's really tight.
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It's actually like fist-sized in my chest," and just calling it what it is allows the different parts of your brain to calm down and to either get offline or get online to be in the place that you need to be to go forward instead of staying in that spin cycle of, anxiety and all of these things because that's a different part of your brain that's functioning- People really aren't stuck.
00:36:30.626 --> 00:36:34.666
They're just a little, certain pieces are offline, and there are tools you can have to, come back in.
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Back, put back in alignment.
00:36:36.036 --> 00:36:46.867
To be able to get themselves out of stuck, where people feel like they need all these other things when really you just need probably a few tools to come back in, and then you can go on about your way.
00:36:46.927 --> 00:36:47.237
Let them...
00:36:48.177 --> 00:36:52.317
If you were to give the listeners one tool to help them get unstuck, what would it be?
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Honestly, I think the easiest tool, and it's one that I use a lot, is go outside., Like it sounds really simple, like it should probably be more complicated, and yes, there are, like, deeper things to do, but, like, take a break and go outside.
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spend three to five minutes outside without your phone, without someone else.
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Just go outside.
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I don't care if it's two degrees or 100 degrees.
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Just do it.
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Reconnect.
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That is a place that we are actually connected.
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We live in a very connected society, so we think, with our phones and the internet and all of that, but those are...
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That's where disconnection happens.
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The connection is coming back to Earth, to more natural...
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to a more natural state.
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And just give yourself a minute to be there.
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Breathe.
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your breath is very important in regulating yourself.
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I actually just did an experiment with a few people, of taking a break every, one to two hours, going outside for literally two minutes.
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Take a break, go outside.
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and all of them said that it was a huge shift in their mood, how they felt, their ability to reset and go back into work, how they received other people.
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So that would be my one tip and most simple thing you could do.
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It's free, right?
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It's free.
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you just have to walk out your door.
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we all have the ability to do that at this point,
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unless you're in jail.
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yes.
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Well- And they might let you out every once in a while.
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They might.
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Get you some sunshine.
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Yeah.
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And I guess that's where we serve our consequences for whatever the actions might be.
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But, like- yes, I suppose there are a few people who couldn't get outside.
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But the general population- but for the most
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part- can walk outside
00:38:27.056 --> 00:38:29.367
everybody can walk outside- Yeah and take a beat and
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Such an easy tool, and we skip it most of the time.
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You spend a lot of time outside.
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I'd say we're pretty calm people for the most part.
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Yeah.
00:38:38.617 --> 00:38:53.407
After I left your house yesterday, Driving home, no radio, no nothing, and I saw a hawk fly over and land, and I got the, a message from, we'll call it from God that just he's everywhere.
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How much of a, like how clearly that came through on my way home after leaving your house yesterday, yeah, he's everywhere.
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It's pretty cool that, that no matter what stories are running through us or, wherever life was taking us, God is there with us.
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Whether you're a believer or non-believer, but that's my belief that he's everywhere.
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he was
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it was definitely the message you were meant to receive, right?
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Sure.
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Like- Yep a reminder or whatever.
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And I think, that's one thing that if people were willing to shift how they, view or move through life, I think that is one of those things that would comfort a lot of people through the process.
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That he's there.
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Yeah.
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He's around.
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And there are signs around us all the time.
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we are gifted that all the time, but a lot of times we just walk past the things that happen and don't acknowledge it.
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Or we have our logical brain tell us,"Oh, that can't be possible.
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I'm just not a person that believes in that.
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that wasn't a coincidence.
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There is no such thing.
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Yeah.
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That didn't just- Didn't just happen randomly happen.
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Yeah.
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that was intended for you, it was intended for you to see, and the message was intended for you to feel.
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However you receive that message, I don't know if y- you hear it, feel it, if it just shows up in your mind.
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Yeah.
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however you receive the message, it was, you could second-guess it, be like,"That's random,""Why would I randomly think that when I see this hawk?" why would that come forward?" And talk yourself out of that being a message from God.
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And I think people do that'cause it's, can be uncomfortable, But I have that stuff happen all the time, whether it's...
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And that's how I believe, it might be the penny, the random penny.
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I just had a, one of my clients text me, and she's"Okay, what's happening?" She goes,"I found a quarter in my dog's bowl," which was really random.
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She goes,"Not a big deal, right?
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I pick it up, take it out, walk back, another quarter in the dog bowl." Then she goes,"I just keep finding quarters everywhere." And I'm like,"Oh, that's for you to interpret.
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It's your message, but there is a message." Right?
00:40:55.637 --> 00:40:56.507
Trying to not see it
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Wait, no, it's just a quarter.
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But, and my dog must have." how did the second one get there when you walked back two seconds later?
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Like-
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That's pretty wild.
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Yeah.
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and it's not random.
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No.
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It's not random.
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not random.
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But we were on that mission trip last week, and that was the theme of a lot of the things that happened last week on that mission trip, where there's no such thing as coincidence.
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and for me, it's coins a lot.
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I have that happen.
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you care if I share a quick story?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah?
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Please.
00:41:25.246 --> 00:41:34.427
I went with my dad and my stepmom to Texas to watch my younger brother graduate from basic, and on the way home we hit, some bad weather, and, we were tired.
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22-hour drive, right?
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and I was the only one that sat in the backseat of the rental car.
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And I was feeling, nervous about the weather, and would my dad be able to stay awake, like, all the things.
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And I put my hand in the, door holder, and there was a penny in there.
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And I pulled it out and I looked at it, and I always look at the date, and I don't remember what the date was on it at this point, but I text my grandma and I was like,"What year was Uncle Mike born?" And she texts me, and it wasn't the year on the penny, and I was like,"Oh, whatever, random." Put my ha- my hand in the cup holder on the other side, another penny.
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And it was the year my uncle was born.
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And I just, quietly sat in the backseat and, cried to myself.
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happy tears, but, okay, he's here.
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he's around.
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We're safe.
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we're taken- care of.
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we, we are provided for in this moment.
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everything'll be fine.
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and then we got home,
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Right.
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And I had a piece of rose quartz that I got it all out and showed Zach, and I was like,"Look at these different things that I got," and he was kinda like,"Okay, cool.
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you bought rocks." Whatever.
00:42:31.657 --> 00:42:46.717
In the morning we got up, and I was like,"Did you move this?" And he's"What?" And I was like,"This rose quartz." He goes,"I don't even know what that is." And I was like,"But it's over here." there was a second piece of rose quartz in our house that I did not buy or bring in, and it was sitting on his grandmother's old cookbooks on our counter.
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She's around.
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They're with us.
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Just, those signs that, that's not a coincidence.
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He didn't do it.
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He didn't even know what I'm talking about.
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He used to look at me like I was a nutso.
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And now he has his own way of seeing those things show up and receiving that, but- Very Those are the things that have happened that would be really easy to just be like,"Oh, that's not anything." That didn't happen.
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It's just this or just that." those were real things that showed up.
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Those were real signs that, I'm not skipping over.
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They're there.
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God is everywhere.
00:43:15.726 --> 00:43:15.847
Yep.
00:43:16.297 --> 00:43:18.036
That's a great reminder.
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Very cool.
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Thanks for sharing that story.
00:43:20.507 --> 00:43:21.226
Yeah, absolutely.
00:43:21.226 --> 00:43:22.556
Thanks for letting me.
00:43:23.257 --> 00:43:24.822
What helps Robin stay rooted?
00:43:25.523 --> 00:43:34.592
It's those daily practices, like being outside, taking some time for myself, working out, which I will say through basketball season has been interesting to navigate.
00:43:35.342 --> 00:43:39.983
I haven't been at the gym a lot, but I have worked out at home and given myself some space.
00:43:40.273 --> 00:43:44.112
I've done some meditations, more walking, like low impact.
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I'll be back to the gym after basketball season- is over.
00:43:46.362 --> 00:43:49.132
But, it was just a shift in what I needed for my body.
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So one, understanding that and making the shifts where I need them, so that I can feel supported and not drained.
00:43:56.862 --> 00:43:58.132
spending time with my animals.
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Again, it all- Great usually goes back to being outside, being in nature, and being with them
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Robin, thanks for trusting me, and thank you for your ripple effect that you have on myself, and now you get to have this ripple effect on the listeners of sharing your story, sharing some of your tools.
00:44:20.413 --> 00:44:34.862
And as easy as they may sound of just walk outside, leave your phone, leave the distractions in the house or wherever they go, how valuable of a tool that is that gets often overlooked of just go outside.
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Take out the just, go outside.
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Yeah.
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It is simple, but it's effective.
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simple and effective.
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Very well said.
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What stayed with me the most from this conversation, a lot of things, as always from our conversations, but one of the things that was, that sticks with me is how easy it is to allow somebody else to have a different perspective and be able to receive it.
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That was a key yesterday and it was a key again today of being open-minded enough to Receive somebody else's perspective and not fight it.
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it's a tool to use and it's a tool to learn.
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but being able to have a different perspective and be able to view our, my own perspective from your lens, how valuable that is.
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So hopefully a listener can be able to take a tool from what we gave today and have a different perspective on their life, and hopefully they get a shift from that.
00:45:34.452 --> 00:45:41.793
Or maybe they get to listen to somebody else that gives them a perspective shift on life that helps them put a smile on their face.
00:45:42.353 --> 00:45:42.833
Yeah.
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Bring some joy
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bring some joy.
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How can someone find you if they wanna work with you?
00:45:46.813 --> 00:45:51.072
They can find me personally on Facebook or Instagram, and then I have a business page.
00:45:51.132 --> 00:45:53.972
My business is Whole Soul Wellness or Right Massage.
00:45:54.282 --> 00:45:55.193
Thanks for having me, Todd.
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it can feel complicated, but when people have experiences, trauma, whatever, it can just be like you had an argument with someone.
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But if you haven't been able to express, the whole thing out, we'll bury it in tissue.
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So it literally will store at the cellular level in the body, which can then be the cause of illness.
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I personally believe that it is the cause of illness, that and, environmental-type things that we're exposed to.
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but we bury stuff because, one, we're not allowed to act a certain way per society.
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It's not appropriate for me to punch you if I'm mad at you, right?
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But I still may need to express something without punching you.
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I might need to go to a room and punch a pillow or yell into it and do that more primal type of a- Release?
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movement release.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Where, like, in our society, that's not okay.
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that's not been voted something y- you're allowed to do, so people- Just bury all that stuff down Which is what makes people, habitually mad.
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we all know somebody who's just kinda like- Mad.
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They're, like, angry at the world.
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they're not angry at anything, they're just angry.
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Or somebody who's sad, who might be depressed, whatever it is.
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A lot of times, it's buried old stuff.
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It might be from when they were a kid.
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a situation, their brother took their toy, but Mom told you weren't allowed to be mad about it.
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It's not okay to cry.
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Yeah.
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yeah.
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It's written in our body.
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And then you- we g- live our whole life and we become adults, and then some people have a hard time expressing how they feel or crying, letting the tears out.
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That's part of, like, the healing process of coming in and you maybe receiving body work with me and having a conversation and the story come up out of the body-
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Welcome to Rooted, Stories of Faith, Growth, and Changed Lives.
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I'm Todd.
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These conversations aren't about perfect answers or polished stories.
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You don't have to have it all figured out to be here.
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You just have to be willing to listen.
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Today, I'm sitting down with Robin.
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Robin and I met through the CrossFit gym, and it took a morning coffee date to get to know each other two or three years ago.
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and what stood out to me most about Robin was her ability to have a safe conversation with, knowing...
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even the first time I sat down with you, being able to share some things I'd never shared with other people before.
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you bring that energy to the room of, it's okay to come in and sit down and have a seat and share what's on your mind.
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it's a very comforting feeling to be around you,
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Thanks for having me.
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There's nothing to perform here.
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It's just a conversation between the two of us.
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We'll move through stories and a few other topics that we have planned and maybe not planned out.
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before faith or growth entered the picture what did life feel like?
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Life was heavy.
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I had fun.
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I feel like on the outside everything was fun and good, but there was a lot to carry because I hadn't done the work on myself.
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So it was a performance, essentially.
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you're performing for the world, and then you go home and you're like, take off all the things, and what's left of you?
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Not
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Yeah.
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What's at the- Yeah what's at the core?
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What's underneath all that stuff?
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Yeah.
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And you and I get to talk about this a lot How many coats were you carrying at the time?
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Yeah, the coats.
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I don't know.
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Countless.
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Whether it was through work, family, things I carried that I didn't wanna share or tell people about my life.
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even just in the sense of, fitting into a group that I didn't even wanna fit into, but that required, me to show up and drink every weekend and be out of control, of myself.
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The alcohol would do that where- but it was like, that's what you're supposed to do.
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So you keep showing up in the way you're supposed to for society or the people that are in your life so you can keep them.
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You don't make other people uncomfortable if you just do what everyone else is doing.
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And so I continued to do that for a lot of years, to the point that it was really uncomfortable for myself.
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What kept you rooted back then?
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Or was there anything that kept you rooted back then?
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knowing who I was inside, like my own relationship with myself, it was like its own battleground, I guess you could say.
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I knew...
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I had a pull that I knew what was right, but there was a fear of losing people in my life.
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if I was all of who I am, who would walk away from me?
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So the rooted piece of me knew who I was.
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It was coming back home, like being home- was safe.
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my marriage was safe.
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We had a lot of things to work on, but it w- has always been a place that I could go and be who I am.
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Zach's a person who's seen all of the pieces of me and just never wavered to like,"Okay, and we'll work through that." but like coming back home and just being like outside with my horses, with any of my animals, like animals are at the root of who I am, helping rescue.
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I guess truth- truthfully, they rescue me, too.
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But from the people side of it, like rescuing animals and bringing them in and giving them a place to heal and know that they're safe, yeah, like literally my feet in the dirt, rooted in the earth.
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I think it's pretty cool that you do that for animals and you do it for humans.
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That's the Robin that I know now.
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I didn't know the previous Robin, We had seen each other.
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We'd passed each other at the gym, but never really had a conversation until we went and had that coffee.
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and you've helped me out a ton of...
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I remember going to have coffee that morning.
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a week later, I was leaving for an experience to go out to San Francisco at the time I think it was when I went to San Francisco and I came back I and I came back and was in a, what I felt like it was a heavier space than before I left to go there.
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And I was like,"Hey, Robin, like I, I need help." And it was pretty cool that, that God put you in my s- put you in my pathway even before I was a believer He put you in my path.
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I went to California, had this experience, came back, felt heavier, and there you were when I got back.
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We'd already started a relationship or a friendship and get back in.
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You helped me pull through some, or walk through some dark times with me and helped me process a lot of things, so it's...
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One, I'm al- I'm always grateful for that, and it's also very interesting that you say that you help animals do that same thing from rescue or...
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I think I've seen you rescue everything from miniature donkeys to cats to countless other things that I know that Zach has said,"Now, what is Robin bringing home now?"
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Yep.
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Yeah, that's a regular conversation.
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luckily, again, he is supportive in that.
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Right.
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And'cause it is part of, my lifeline-
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It's who you are
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So he, he hasn't been, like, a hard stop.
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Yes, he does say no sometimes- and that's reasonable.
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But just this winter I brought home four kittens that were orphaned, and two of them are...
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You wouldn't know it, Zach loves them.
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Right.
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But he was kinda like,"What are we gonna do with four kittens?" And I'm like,"We're gonna raise them, and it's gonna be great." And it is.
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they all blend together.
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And, two of them, friends of ours have.
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They're little girls who were really excited to have them.
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So we get stories about the defective kittens that I gave them, because they've had them chase them down the road in their car as though they're dogs, like chasing them when they leave, to being on the roof.
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She, my girlfriend had to go pick them up at someone's house'cause they just love people.
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And I'm like,"Well, they didn't have a mom.
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I was their mom.""So of course they wanna be with you guys."
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Sure.
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When did you start to realize that the alcohol and the other things weren't enough?
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the thing that comes forward is, self-abandonment.
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it was a way of abandoning myself.
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the alcohol would numb the things, like the dealing with what's actually happening, like looking inward and seeing, old wounds that I had as a kid that I just, I needed to look at, and essentially re-parent my child self.
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I'm an adult now, and having a relationship with the kid that I was, and being the parent that I needed.
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Not that my parent...
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Not that I had, terrible parents or anything, but there's no manual when you get a kid, right?
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When you have a kid.
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Like- There shouldn't be do what you can with what you have.
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And so there were things that I needed as a kid that I now can provide for myself.
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But it took a long time of, being able to really pull back the layers and see myself, one, as a kid, like what I needed, and what I need now as an adult that I don't need to seek outside of myself.
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I was chasing whatever thing, whatever feeling, how I wanted to be, look, whatever, outside of myself when it was all inward work
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And Do you think that a lot of people are afraid to look inward?
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Absolutely.
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And just keep chasing?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's uncomfortable.
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Yeah.
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It's uncomfortable, and it's a place that when you get there, it can feel really raw to be in that space.
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To be vulnerable enough to say, one, I have these things.
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and to be an adult, to be, for me, in my 30s, I'm like,"Why would I feel like this?
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Like, why am I upset about this?
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Why do I wanna cry about that?
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I'm an adult.
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That shouldn't bother me." But the truth is, it does.
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It did bother me.
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things that happened in my past, th- relationships I did or didn't have with family members, losing my uncle, in a tragic accident.
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there were things that happened that I then felt abandoned in life, and I also abandoned myself- So the relationship that needed fixing or work was actually my own relationship with myself And that is really raw to, then admit and own your own stuff.
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Yeah.
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And be like,"Oh, yeah, I'm at the center of problem."
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Of me.
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Yeah.
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I'm at the center of all of this, and so I'm gonna have to look at me and own my stuff.
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And there's a lot of, forgiveness for the people around you who did or didn't know or have the tools to be what you might have needed- at a certain time in your life.
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And learning the tools that you do need so you can be that for yourself.
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Which has provided a space for me to be, show up differently for people around me
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Two things came up.
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One of the hardest things to do is look in the mirror.
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It's easy to point fingers.
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the hardest thing is to do is look in the mirror like,"Oh, yeah, I did that." and it's...
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I know you have given me this drill, Go home and look in the mirror.
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literally stare yourself in the mirror for five minutes, 10 minutes, whatever that takes.
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At some point, for me, I remember at some point I saw somebody different in there.
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oh, there is somebody else inside that mirror that does need work done, because it is so easy to blame everybody else for your defaults or your faults and just keep pointing fingers or numb it.
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Yeah.
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So it is, it does take work.
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And then at your...
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The second point that you made was Being able to turn around and help other people in the boat, get them out of the water and pull them up I'm glad you did that personally.
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and I know that you've helped a ton of other people, and also animals.
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Being able to help them give them a new life, give men, women, children, high school girls, whatever, boys- Yeah of helping them through.
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Now you get to go back and shepherd them and help them through life, guide them.
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it's pretty cool to see that you've taken yourself through those journeys of healing to be able to, and now go back and help.
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"Oh, I've been there.
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I can help you with that," or Guide you along.
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Yeah.
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It's, and like for me, like going back now and coaching high school basketball, so being with, teenage girls.
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Right.
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curmudgeon.
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my main focus or like goal when I go in there, intention maybe, is just to be another adult in their life that would be the kind of adult I would've needed then.
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I get to be an extra person in their life.
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I don't know what they all go home to.
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I don't know what that looks like, what their personal lives are like, boyfriends and friends, and it's complicated at that age.
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but I am a landing spot if they need it.
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It's a place where you can have a conversation.
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You can say the thing you need to say, and with the exception of if it's going to hurt someone or, themselves, it stays with me.
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It's a place that you can just say what you need to say, and we can move forward, and if you need tools or help, I can be there.
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But I didn't have that as a high schooler.
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when I think back to my coaches, we never had that.
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It was,"We're here to win." I'm sure I learned a lot of life lessons growing up through coaches-
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Absolutely
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But having somebody there with the intention of,"We're here to grow as a team.
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We're here to grow as humans.
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If we win, that's a byproduct."
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Absolutely.
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I think people often miss that of sports and other things,
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Yeah, and I can say the reason I stepped into that is when I met our head coach, who I didn't know prior to this, one of her main things was that they're people.
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they're not just basketball players.
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they're their own human being, and it's really the goal is to help them be better adults when they step out into the world and have more tools so that they can navigate the things they're gonna bump up against because let's be real, life does that.
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whether they're in your control or not, and there's consequences for whatever actions there are.
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And so holding them accountable but, also giving them a place to, express what they need to or feel what they need without shame or guilt, and so they can keep moving forward and hopefully they can become people, adults in life who can give space to other people as well.
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Turn around and do that for somebody else.
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Yeah.
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It would be interesting to know that how many of those girls have learned the tools that Robin has taught them and have already turned around to help somebody else.
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I'm sure it's happening.
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It's that, ripple effect of what happens when-
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Absolutely
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when you get to work, one-to-one.
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if you were, you and I get to work together, what happens when we walk away?
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Because- We both receive and then, I get to turn around and go out in the world and there's something, a nugget that I got from Todd- that I then spread.
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Yep.
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Or a perspective shift.
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Yep, absolutely
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from this basketball season.
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Some- something has happened that they've taken away and then shared with a friend or a family member or...
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Who knows where, we don't know where it goes.
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goes.
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there was a a ripple effect.
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You help a friend's friend.
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it goes, three layers deep is how far that goes.
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If you're a smoker, you're probably gonna hang around with a smoker who's going to...
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It goes three layers deep.
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But if you are a, somebody that helps people be better people, be better humans, how much that ripple effect can go also three layers deep of...
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So one of the girls on your basketball team could be helping a friend's friend go through something tomorrow.
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We'll never see it.
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You'll never see it, but to know that how that or that happens.
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I feel like that kind of ties to, the faith piece of doing the work.
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just sometimes you do the work, and, you don't see anything happen, right?
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you're just like,"I don't know.
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I showed up, and I had the conversation-" and I don't know that, I don't know what happened.
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I don't know what happens when you leave the room," right?
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having faith that whatever transpired in a session, in a conversation with somebody, that it impacted them enough to then impact the next person, the next layer- of the ripple, and it is the things you maybe don't ever see or know about.
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Most of life that we never know, how it works- Yeah or wh- what happens next.
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Trust in the process.
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Ooh, that leads to the next question.
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We just talked a little bit about faith in, in the process, but where does faith or where did faith start to move from an idea to something real for you?
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even just what you just said, having faith that it's going to happen.
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I think some of it is evidence-based oddly enough, right?
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sometimes faith is like the...
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It's kind of blindly, you're blindly going with just faith that it's gonna work out.
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But there's also, coming, stepping into, honestly being fed up with my own self- In the process of, navigating all these different pieces of myself, being fed up with myself enough to step in and peel back the layers and look.
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And then in doing my own work, knowing that, I can see the change in that.
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I can see where I was and where I am now, and sometimes it is hard to see that anything's changed'cause you're like,"How am I in this thing still?" with a certain person or whatever.
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But when you can look at, the stuff you didn't pick up, the coat you didn't pick up, like- So then when you sit with someone and you give them space to talk and to express what they've been in through, are experiencing currently, I know something's happening.
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That is- It's wor- like the faith it's,
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that's faith.
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That is the faith.
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I don't have to see the outcome of, what it is, but I know in that process, you and I sit down and you share that story, whatever it is, or experience that you had, something's already working.
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Something's, yeah.
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Something's already- it's working in you.
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Which leads me to a n- then our next topic.
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I've known you, and I know the work that you do-
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Like that it's working in
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So the stories that we, the stories that we carry, the codes that we carry.
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Let's talk a little bit about, I'm always intrigued by the stories that come out of me when you and I work together.
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one of the things you do or have helped me with was help bring stories out of my body.
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You are a licensed massage therapist, but you're so much more than that.
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It's not, I can't even put into words what you do.
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Tell me a little bit about Your thoughts on the emotional baggage that we carry in our bodies.
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It can feel complicated, but when people have experiences, trauma, whatever, it can just be like you had an argument with someone.
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But if you haven't been able to express, the whole thing out, we'll bury it in tissue.
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So it literally will store at the cellular level in the body, which can then be the cause of illness.
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I personally believe that it is the cause of illness, that and, environmental-type things that we're exposed to.
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but we bury stuff because, one, we're not allowed to act a certain way per society.
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It's not appropriate for me to punch you if I'm mad at you, right?
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But I still may need to express something without punching you.
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Like, I might need to go to a room and punch a pillow or yell into it and do kind of that more primal type of a- Release?
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movement release.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Where, like, in our society, that's not okay.
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Like, that's not been voted something y- you're allowed to do, so people- Just bury all that stuff down Which is what makes people, like, habitually mad.
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Like, we all know somebody who's just kinda like- Mad.
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They're, like, angry at the world.
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they're not angry at anything, they're just angry.
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Or somebody who's sad, who might be depressed, like, whatever it is.
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A lot of times, it's buried old stuff.
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It might be from when they were a kid.
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Like, a situation, their brother took their toy, but Mom told you you weren't allowed to be mad about it.
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It's not okay to cry.
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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yeah.
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Heard that and things that are written in our...
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It's written in our body.
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And then you- we g- live our whole life and we become adults, and then some people have a hard time expressing how they feel or crying, letting the tears out.
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So in working with people, like in being in a space where you do feel comfortable or safe, the nervous system, literally the nervous system then can start to release that.
00:20:04.212 --> 00:20:16.012
That's part of, like, the healing process of coming in and you maybe receiving body work with me and having a conversation and the story come up out of the body- Yeah where, like, you can feel tension in the body or maybe your neck is hurting.
00:20:16.593 --> 00:20:18.573
So what are you storing there, Todd?
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And then a s- a story that you're like,"Where did that come from?" about the most random thing.
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That you're like,"I didn't even know-" Yeah that was a thing in my life." It was stored in your neck.
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And I still find that it's- I don't know, it's awesome to watch it happen, to be part of that, and I know I've gotten to experience both sides of that, helping somebody facilitate or- Actually, it just happened yesterday.
00:20:41.742 --> 00:20:41.992
Yeah.
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it, it was, call it intuitive hit or something, whatever you wanna call it, Yeah
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Yeah, it was a really cool exchange.
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It was pretty cool.
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And, like, that story, for me, it wasn't like some crazy, horrific thing that happened to me.
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I was out riding horses with a girlfriend, and long story short, I fell off on the shoulder.
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So I had s- that story stored in my shoulder.
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Mm.
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And you were able to help me, one, talk the story out and release that, release it from my shoulder.
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Like, and it's, it's such a, a feeling of, like, I don't know, freedom, when you get to, like, again, take something off that your body's been carrying.
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And that was probably- 12 to 15 years ago- Mm that that happened.
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So I've been carrying that around in my shoulder.
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And like my shoulder doesn't hurt today- Literally at all.
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and that's like a cr- it would be like a chronic issue.
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It is pretty wild.
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And I know that,"You're working on a muscle on me," and you could see it something in my face or something in me shifted and you said,"You can either let that story go, you can tell me what was in there, or you can bury it back in and you'll see me in a couple weeks to try to go through it again." I'm like,"Dang it.
00:21:50.623 --> 00:21:56.762
Okay." And to be able, Feeling safe enough to let that story out- is for sure is a key to that.
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and I think the other part of that is that's where dis- disease comes from is- dis-ease.
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Disease.
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In the body
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in the body.
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how did you...
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When did you first learn that you had this- gift of helping people?
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I think honestly at a young age, I had a weird knowing that I could help people in these other ways.
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I had interesting connections, like with my great-grandma and things like that where I had like really intuitive things that would happen or that I would know that was like, how does she know that?" and I do think it is a skill of like from being a kid, my dad could be hot-tempered when I was a kid.
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so I learned to read rooms really well,'cause that's uncomfortable.
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So like I learned to pick up of like how was my dad feeling?
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How was my mom feeling?
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I could feel on other people's emotions and whether that was I was naturally gifted that in some way, but also a learned skill through your experiences of what's happening in the room.
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Yeah.
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How am I gonna act in the room because of what else is happening in the room?
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If that makes sense.
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absolutely.
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And then I was gonna...
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I went, actually I was going to school to be a dentist, oddly enough.
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That's what I was gonna go to college for- Really?
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to be a dentist.
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right.
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there's a whole story there, with college and friends and experiences that happened, but long story story- short, I took a semester off when I realized that was not gonna be my jam, and I went to a car show and found, at Ivy Tech, went in to use the restroom and found that they had a massage program.
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I was like,"That's what I'm gonna do." Most random.
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Again-
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Awesome
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put divine placement.
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Sure.
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I was where I w- I needed to be at the right time.
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I just wanted to help people feel better.
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that's essentially what happened, but then in the doing, being one-on-one with people and learning the body in different ways, and, having really great teachers when I was in school, that was helpful, too.
00:23:52.623 --> 00:23:59.603
really it was probably years into doing body work that I had this"Oh, there's a lot more happening than,'Oh, your muscles are just tight.
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Here you go.''Here's your massage.
00:24:00.603 --> 00:24:05.692
You feel better.'"See you later." Like, why do those same muscles hurt, for the last three years?
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yes, we have injury, but if you get, 8 to 16 weeks out and you're still having, the same pain, like, you haven't had change in it, there's probably a layer of a mental, emotional thing tied to it.
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Because even when you have an injury, sprain my ankle.
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I'll do that every now and then, roll my ankle,'cause I had an injury in high school, and I can hear the dialogue in my head like,"So dumb.
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Why would you do that?
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Like, why'd you get on the counter to get to the top shelf and then jump down?" But that's a, that gets stored.
00:24:35.423 --> 00:24:48.002
the way I talk about myself, like what happened around that, and if I can't release the situation, now I might have a pain in my ankle that I have to work through, but it's not because my ankle physically maybe needs something.
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It's because I need to process the situation.
00:24:51.932 --> 00:24:52.613
Too heavy, yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's, funny you bring up ankle.
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we did some work together on my ankle.
00:24:57.462 --> 00:25:03.732
"Todd, what are you carrying?" Or are you holding onto," or,"What are you digging your heels into?" being able to let that go and- I'm back to...
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it wasn't that long, back to running, back to my normal things.
00:25:07.063 --> 00:25:10.143
And do you think that people go to the doctor?
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Obviously, w- people need to go to the doctor for s- some reasons.
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Yeah.
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do you think it's too much has become a social norm just to,"Oh, my ankle hurts, I'm gonna go to the doctor"?
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I think, people want a quick fix.
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We live in a very immediate gratification world.
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So it's easier to go to the doctor and hope they can just give you the pill that makes everything better, which is, part of our downfall, just in general in our society, where there's the, there are these other layers of work mentally, emotionally, spiritually, that we skip over.
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and it's not to necessarily to the fault of society as a whole, I just think it's the way we've been conditioned into this life.
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Even from like a physician's standpoint, they've been trained in a certain way, and they believe wholeheartedly in what they do.
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And they do really great things, right?
00:26:01.482 --> 00:26:04.613
we need them and what they do and their knowledge and...
00:26:05.682 --> 00:26:10.022
there is another layer of our healing that I think gets overlooked a lot.
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I was talking to somebody from the hospital last night.
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I think their average turnaround time is 7.6 minutes.
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That's how long a doctor sees a patient.
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What can you and I get done in 7.6 minutes?
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You don't get to any of the mental, emotional, spiritual, like knowing a person.
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People need a place to be seen and heard, and they're not getting...
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I think it's something you used to get with your physician.
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Like I- when you think of, the old school doctors who would, spend the time with you.
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They knew you.
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They knew where you lived.
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They knew what your job was.
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Absolutely.
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They'd see you in the grocery store, and they knew all about your whole life.
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Our doctors don't know that now because they can't.
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They are in a system that keeps them from being able to build true relationships with people, which also then makes it really hard to help people get better.
00:27:00.626 --> 00:27:06.747
Cause it, if you don't feel like your doctor cares, which is how I've felt in the past, I'm like, I'm not doing what they told me to do." I'm out."
00:27:06.967 --> 00:27:07.217
Yep.
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And I wonder how much that happens with other people who do have really serious things going on that truly do need their physician.
00:27:14.836 --> 00:27:24.146
there are a lot of things happening, but when we don't give people space to talk and to feel through anything, and we just throw the next, Band-Aid.
00:27:24.146 --> 00:27:26.356
Band-Aid on them, and don't fix the actual problem.
00:27:26.626 --> 00:27:26.817
Yeah.
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we skip the root cause.
00:27:28.676 --> 00:27:29.386
The root ca- right.
00:27:30.017 --> 00:27:36.436
Very much That's where the incredible people like Robin come in and help facilitate those,
00:27:36.926 --> 00:27:39.537
It's okay to let them work together, and sometimes we do need- Nope.
00:27:39.846 --> 00:27:40.977
Absolutely a Band-Aid.
00:27:40.977 --> 00:27:43.247
Like you have to stop the bleeding, right?
00:27:43.247 --> 00:27:43.946
Like you have to...
00:27:44.537 --> 00:27:51.096
But there are other layers to illness than just I have X, Y, Z.
00:27:51.096 --> 00:27:56.477
And that- that's another thing in the way we talk about- The way we talk about disease, like owning something.
00:27:56.477 --> 00:28:01.537
Like a s- a person who has cancer walking around saying,"I have cancer." You're experiencing cancer.
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You don't have it.
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Don't own it as yours.
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Don't own that into your body as though that is a definite'cause you don't have to keep that.
00:28:09.416 --> 00:28:10.707
You spoke it into yourself.
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You literally...
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When...
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Yes, you and I talk about this a lot.
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You speak it into your own being.
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"Yes, I have cancer."
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It becomes part of your identity.
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who you are.
00:28:19.967 --> 00:28:23.356
And for me, I have not had cancer.
00:28:23.636 --> 00:28:25.656
I've not experienced cancer in that way, right?
00:28:26.297 --> 00:28:30.166
But I know I would give a valiant effort to not own that in my body.
00:28:30.217 --> 00:28:33.247
And I would ask the people around me not to speak it into my body also.
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'Cause that's a conversation tool.
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I don't have it.
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I'm...
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How easy it is to talk ourselves into being sick of, I have a cold.
00:28:41.146 --> 00:28:42.317
Oh, I just don't feel good today."
00:28:43.136 --> 00:28:43.356
Yeah.
00:28:44.126 --> 00:28:47.846
I like that shift of perspective from I have to I'm experiencing.
00:28:48.676 --> 00:28:58.196
it is work to be in that space because the normal way we would talk about that and the way we've learned through our own lives is that you have X, Y, and Z.
00:28:58.247 --> 00:28:59.467
So it, it does take effort.
00:28:59.497 --> 00:29:03.146
I find I say it sometimes, and I'm like,"Ooh, I don't like how that sounds.
00:29:03.146 --> 00:29:03.207
That.
00:29:03.207 --> 00:29:10.757
"We're gonna rewrite that." And just having, in those moments, having gratitude for your body and what your body is capable of doing.
00:29:11.067 --> 00:29:16.176
your body has carried X, Y, and Z around whatever stories and emotional things.
00:29:16.176 --> 00:29:17.916
Thank you for keeping me safe.
00:29:17.987 --> 00:29:22.596
Thank you for giving me the ability to still do life.
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I'm still walking around a functioning member of society even though I have had these experiences that I've carried, and it's safe now to let these go.
00:29:31.116 --> 00:29:36.696
you're doing the work and you're giving the space to allow things to move through and leave the body
00:29:37.396 --> 00:29:44.247
A lot of the population needs to hear things like that of One, we talk ourselves into, to a lot of things.
00:29:44.686 --> 00:29:48.896
We can talk ourselves into and out of almost anything we want.
00:29:49.626 --> 00:29:51.707
We can talk ourself- Absolutely into being sick.
00:29:52.636 --> 00:29:53.817
We can talk ourself into...
00:29:54.646 --> 00:29:56.936
You and I have witnessed it at the gym.
00:29:56.936 --> 00:30:01.547
We can talk ourselves into a workout, and we can talk ourself out of a workout.
00:30:01.727 --> 00:30:07.247
We can talk ourself into- feeling like you wanna go for a run, and you can talk yourself just as much out of it.
00:30:07.777 --> 00:30:08.497
And it, um...
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We'll touch, touch a little bit on the spiritual side of that, is every time you talk yourself out of it, you're letting the enemy...
00:30:15.707 --> 00:30:18.747
You're cracking that door open for the enemy to let it happen again the next time.
00:30:19.817 --> 00:30:28.446
Every time you speak yourself into, I'm tired today, I don't wanna go to the gym," or every time you get up and hit snooze, you let the enemy have that little...
00:30:28.767 --> 00:30:32.136
You just open that door up a little bit wider every time you do that.
00:30:32.507 --> 00:30:39.507
But it's also true of every time you say yes to yourself, it's easier to say yes to yourself the next time.
00:30:39.926 --> 00:30:55.747
If you make an appointment with Robin and share some things, for me, the next time I go back to have an appointment with Robin, h- and how much easier it is to say yes and share that next layer of the onion that got peeled back of-
00:30:55.977 --> 00:30:56.166
Yeah
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Or next time you went for that, if you did a half-mile run, when you go to a three-quarter or one-mile run, it makes it that much easier.
00:31:03.626 --> 00:31:07.767
and speaking life into yourself, oh, I ran that a mile last time.
00:31:08.636 --> 00:31:20.696
Maybe I can run two miles this time," or,"I did it in 10 minutes this time, I can do it in nine." so it, it's easy to spin that both ways of into the negative or into the positive, letting the enemy in that...
00:31:21.247 --> 00:31:23.957
We're, I'm reading a book, Don't Let the Enemy Sit at Your Table.
00:31:25.227 --> 00:31:30.156
We let him sit at the table, he's going to pull up a chair just as fast as he can.
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We know that.
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Yeah.
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I need the help.
00:31:33.027 --> 00:31:34.406
I need some help letting that out.
00:31:34.507 --> 00:31:35.767
I- that's for me personally.
00:31:36.106 --> 00:31:50.136
I've let the enemy creep in and store that, and, it's, it manifests or it festers until you, until I realize that, oh, s- X, Y, Z is going on.
00:31:50.787 --> 00:31:56.787
One, having the tools to process it myself now, or if I don't, it's a phone call or whatever.
00:31:56.787 --> 00:32:01.106
It's an appointment with- Yeah with somebody to help get through that, Very good conversation.
00:32:01.106 --> 00:32:12.106
One I think that a lot of, whether you're a believer, a Christian or not, needs to hear how much stuff, trauma or even the good stuff that we've...
00:32:12.906 --> 00:32:13.747
There's a good question for you.
00:32:13.747 --> 00:32:22.477
How many stories have you heard of maybe not a trauma Have you been working on somebody that had a, cool, incredible story from your childhood come up?
00:32:22.856 --> 00:32:22.967
Oh, yeah.
00:32:22.967 --> 00:32:23.146
Yeah.
00:32:23.336 --> 00:32:24.386
That happens all the time.
00:32:24.416 --> 00:32:24.646
Okay.
00:32:24.846 --> 00:32:29.817
Which is really neat to have, people be able to share, these really fun, happy-
00:32:29.846 --> 00:32:30.156
Right
00:32:30.247 --> 00:32:31.497
funny memories that they have.
00:32:31.537 --> 00:32:45.757
And sometimes it will come from, I've had stories come up about my uncle who has been gone now for over 10 years, and but it's a way for me to get to share and remember and keep him alive in my life.
00:32:45.846 --> 00:32:59.207
And those things do happen where they come up, and people will, laugh, and you have to be like,"What was that?" they have a,"Oh," and a story comes out, something really cool, something random- something playing with their brother when they were a kid or whatever it is.
00:32:59.207 --> 00:33:01.406
There are really great things that come through.
00:33:01.406 --> 00:33:24.176
And in sharing stories, because of my background with being a massage therapist, understanding the body and working with the body and then stepping into the coach training that I've done and being in the coaching side of it, we have a conversation about the things, and there can be perspective shifts around what feels really heavy and negative and how it's actually can serve in a positive way in your life.
00:33:24.557 --> 00:33:25.817
So that's another, piece of that.
00:33:25.817 --> 00:33:31.987
So bringing out the really happy stories, but also the things that feel heavier, more sad can also serve you in a positive way.
00:33:32.086 --> 00:33:32.366
Sure.
00:33:33.027 --> 00:33:34.287
Yeah, you did that for me yesterday.
00:33:35.537 --> 00:33:35.646
What?
00:33:35.646 --> 00:33:55.076
One, one simple perspective shift of having a credential of- going into rooms that a lot of people aren't allowed into, of how heavy that was, not heavy that was for on, but just heavy weight on me of having this responsibility when you're like,"Todd, it's just, it's a key for Todd to go in.
00:33:55.287 --> 00:34:06.217
It's a key for the door to go in and just Todd be Todd." Um, how much of a weight that lifted off of me yesterday, oh, I have the credentials to walk through the door now to be able to be me.
00:34:06.487 --> 00:34:11.047
That was an incredible shift for me yesterday and- how much freer I feel today.
00:34:11.597 --> 00:34:23.427
So it is, yes, the good stuff is also fun and perspective shifts that we can't see ourself, that people like you get to help facilitate to others.
00:34:23.487 --> 00:34:24.246
and like you.
00:34:24.387 --> 00:34:29.686
You get to go and sit with people and have those types of conversations and shift what's happening in the room.
00:34:29.797 --> 00:34:36.336
Because you can bring a different lens or a different perspective to what their experience is They might not even be in the present.
00:34:36.336 --> 00:34:46.367
So sometimes helping people come back into present and into their body as opposed to in their head and helping them feel and shift, like, where they wanna go.
00:34:46.617 --> 00:34:48.617
Like, how are they gonna attack this next thing?
00:34:48.617 --> 00:34:50.626
How are you gonna move forward in, in life?
00:34:51.327 --> 00:34:57.007
Coming back into the body is a pretty cool experience when you experience it.
00:34:58.186 --> 00:34:58.336
Yeah.
00:34:58.416 --> 00:35:00.746
Not knowing,"Oh, it's just my body.
00:35:00.786 --> 00:35:05.177
I'm wasting my body," until you experience Coming back to your body?
00:35:06.297 --> 00:35:07.277
"Oh, that's what that means."
00:35:07.277 --> 00:35:11.407
you're like,"I wasn't actually ever in my body." And I do think that's one of those...
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I think a lot of people are not in their body and are not connected to it in that way, and sometimes it does take help from someone else.
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Like working with another person, whether it's you or myself or Cathy, like other people that we know that do that type of work.
00:35:28.686 --> 00:35:39.547
but that being in your body and learning how to have a relationship with your body- I think is key to having ultimately people having life that they wanna have.
00:35:39.597 --> 00:35:42.177
we live in a society that tells us to be very heady.
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In our head it's all logical, that's the place you always come from it.
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But your head isn't even the place that decisions get made.
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That's all in your body.
00:35:49.956 --> 00:35:58.606
So learning how to receive information, to feel what's in your body, and sometimes you don't need to know why, like why a thing is there.
00:35:58.606 --> 00:36:00.007
Sometimes we don't know the story.
00:36:00.266 --> 00:36:06.766
sometimes that is a piece and sometimes it's not, so connecting in and having the ability to just call it what it is.
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"Ooh, I feel that in my chest.
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It's really tight.
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It's actually like fist-sized in my chest," and just calling it what it is allows the different parts of your brain to calm down and to either get offline or get online to be in the place that you need to be to go forward instead of staying in that spin cycle of, anxiety and all of these things because that's a different part of your brain that's functioning- People really aren't stuck.
00:36:30.626 --> 00:36:34.666
They're just a little, certain pieces are offline, and there are tools you can have to, come back in.
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Back, put back in alignment.
00:36:36.036 --> 00:36:46.867
To be able to get themselves out of stuck, where people feel like they need all these other things when really you just need probably a few tools to come back in, and then you can go on about your way.
00:36:46.927 --> 00:36:47.237
Let them...
00:36:48.177 --> 00:36:52.317
If you were to give the listeners one tool to help them get unstuck, what would it be?
00:36:53.016 --> 00:37:04.456
Honestly, I think the easiest tool, and it's one that I use a lot, is go outside., Like it sounds really simple, like it should probably be more complicated, and yes, there are, like, deeper things to do, but, like, take a break and go outside.
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spend three to five minutes outside without your phone, without someone else.
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Just go outside.
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I don't care if it's two degrees or 100 degrees.
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Just do it.
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Reconnect.
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That is a place that we are actually connected.
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We live in a very connected society, so we think, with our phones and the internet and all of that, but those are...
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That's where disconnection happens.
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The connection is coming back to Earth, to more natural...
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to a more natural state.
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And just give yourself a minute to be there.
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Breathe.
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your breath is very important in regulating yourself.
00:37:40.766 --> 00:37:49.327
I actually just did an experiment with a few people, of taking a break every, one to two hours, going outside for literally two minutes.
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Take a break, go outside.
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and all of them said that it was a huge shift in their mood, how they felt, their ability to reset and go back into work, how they received other people.
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So that would be my one tip and most simple thing you could do.
00:38:04.746 --> 00:38:05.367
It's free, right?
00:38:05.476 --> 00:38:05.927
It's free.
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you just have to walk out your door.
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we all have the ability to do that at this point,
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unless you're in jail.
00:38:11.327 --> 00:38:11.626
yes.
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Well- And they might let you out every once in a while.
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They might.
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Get you some sunshine.
00:38:16.117 --> 00:38:16.367
Yeah.
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And I guess that's where we serve our consequences for whatever the actions might be.
00:38:20.777 --> 00:38:24.476
But, like- yes, I suppose there are a few people who couldn't get outside.
00:38:24.476 --> 00:38:25.827
But the general population- but for the most
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part- can walk outside
00:38:27.056 --> 00:38:29.367
everybody can walk outside- Yeah and take a beat and
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Such an easy tool, and we skip it most of the time.
00:38:32.646 --> 00:38:34.047
You spend a lot of time outside.
00:38:34.927 --> 00:38:38.117
I'd say we're pretty calm people for the most part.
00:38:38.306 --> 00:38:38.447
Yeah.
00:38:38.617 --> 00:38:53.407
After I left your house yesterday, Driving home, no radio, no nothing, and I saw a hawk fly over and land, and I got the, a message from, we'll call it from God that just he's everywhere.
00:38:54.697 --> 00:38:59.847
How much of a, like how clearly that came through on my way home after leaving your house yesterday, yeah, he's everywhere.
00:39:00.277 --> 00:39:08.237
It's pretty cool that, that no matter what stories are running through us or, wherever life was taking us, God is there with us.
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Whether you're a believer or non-believer, but that's my belief that he's everywhere.
00:39:13.847 --> 00:39:14.456
he was
00:39:14.806 --> 00:39:17.077
it was definitely the message you were meant to receive, right?
00:39:17.077 --> 00:39:17.396
Sure.
00:39:17.436 --> 00:39:19.237
Like- Yep a reminder or whatever.
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And I think, that's one thing that if people were willing to shift how they, view or move through life, I think that is one of those things that would comfort a lot of people through the process.
00:39:31.686 --> 00:39:32.556
That he's there.
00:39:32.876 --> 00:39:32.967
Yeah.
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He's around.
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And there are signs around us all the time.
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we are gifted that all the time, but a lot of times we just walk past the things that happen and don't acknowledge it.
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Or we have our logical brain tell us,"Oh, that can't be possible.
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I'm just not a person that believes in that.
00:39:51.916 --> 00:39:53.036
that wasn't a coincidence.
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There is no such thing.
00:39:53.786 --> 00:39:53.847
Yeah.
00:39:53.887 --> 00:39:56.786
That didn't just- Didn't just happen randomly happen.
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Yeah.
00:39:56.947 --> 00:40:02.737
that was intended for you, it was intended for you to see, and the message was intended for you to feel.
00:40:03.476 --> 00:40:08.757
However you receive that message, I don't know if y- you hear it, feel it, if it just shows up in your mind.
00:40:09.507 --> 00:40:09.567
Yeah.
00:40:09.976 --> 00:40:22.987
however you receive the message, it was, you could second-guess it, be like,"That's random,""Why would I randomly think that when I see this hawk?" why would that come forward?" And talk yourself out of that being a message from God.
00:40:23.336 --> 00:40:28.277
And I think people do that'cause it's, can be uncomfortable, But I have that stuff happen all the time, whether it's...
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And that's how I believe, it might be the penny, the random penny.
00:40:32.257 --> 00:40:40.257
I just had a, one of my clients text me, and she's"Okay, what's happening?" She goes,"I found a quarter in my dog's bowl," which was really random.
00:40:40.257 --> 00:40:41.407
She goes,"Not a big deal, right?
00:40:41.407 --> 00:40:51.306
I pick it up, take it out, walk back, another quarter in the dog bowl." Then she goes,"I just keep finding quarters everywhere." And I'm like,"Oh, that's for you to interpret.
00:40:51.867 --> 00:40:54.827
It's your message, but there is a message." Right?
00:40:55.637 --> 00:40:56.507
Trying to not see it
00:40:56.507 --> 00:40:57.907
Wait, no, it's just a quarter.
00:40:58.356 --> 00:41:02.306
But, and my dog must have." how did the second one get there when you walked back two seconds later?
00:41:03.567 --> 00:41:03.697
Like-
00:41:04.206 --> 00:41:04.817
That's pretty wild.
00:41:04.896 --> 00:41:05.077
Yeah.
00:41:05.467 --> 00:41:06.257
and it's not random.
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No.
00:41:07.617 --> 00:41:08.056
It's not random.
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not random.
00:41:08.836 --> 00:41:18.967
But we were on that mission trip last week, and that was the theme of a lot of the things that happened last week on that mission trip, where there's no such thing as coincidence.
00:41:20.186 --> 00:41:21.797
and for me, it's coins a lot.
00:41:21.947 --> 00:41:22.567
I have that happen.
00:41:22.617 --> 00:41:23.907
you care if I share a quick story?
00:41:23.907 --> 00:41:24.427
Absolutely.
00:41:24.467 --> 00:41:24.536
Yeah?
00:41:24.536 --> 00:41:24.827
Please.
00:41:25.246 --> 00:41:34.427
I went with my dad and my stepmom to Texas to watch my younger brother graduate from basic, and on the way home we hit, some bad weather, and, we were tired.
00:41:34.817 --> 00:41:35.777
22-hour drive, right?
00:41:35.827 --> 00:41:38.106
and I was the only one that sat in the backseat of the rental car.
00:41:38.427 --> 00:41:43.297
And I was feeling, nervous about the weather, and would my dad be able to stay awake, like, all the things.
00:41:43.297 --> 00:41:46.867
And I put my hand in the, door holder, and there was a penny in there.
00:41:46.867 --> 00:42:05.347
And I pulled it out and I looked at it, and I always look at the date, and I don't remember what the date was on it at this point, but I text my grandma and I was like,"What year was Uncle Mike born?" And she texts me, and it wasn't the year on the penny, and I was like,"Oh, whatever, random." Put my ha- my hand in the cup holder on the other side, another penny.
00:42:05.766 --> 00:42:07.106
And it was the year my uncle was born.
00:42:08.286 --> 00:42:11.706
And I just, quietly sat in the backseat and, cried to myself.
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happy tears, but, okay, he's here.
00:42:15.126 --> 00:42:15.737
he's around.
00:42:15.737 --> 00:42:16.367
We're safe.
00:42:16.737 --> 00:42:17.376
we're taken- care of.
00:42:17.376 --> 00:42:19.407
we, we are provided for in this moment.
00:42:19.476 --> 00:42:20.317
everything'll be fine.
00:42:21.047 --> 00:42:21.847
and then we got home,
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Right.
00:42:22.597 --> 00:42:29.047
And I had a piece of rose quartz that I got it all out and showed Zach, and I was like,"Look at these different things that I got," and he was kinda like,"Okay, cool.
00:42:29.086 --> 00:42:30.786
you bought rocks." Whatever.
00:42:31.657 --> 00:42:46.717
In the morning we got up, and I was like,"Did you move this?" And he's"What?" And I was like,"This rose quartz." He goes,"I don't even know what that is." And I was like,"But it's over here." there was a second piece of rose quartz in our house that I did not buy or bring in, and it was sitting on his grandmother's old cookbooks on our counter.
00:42:47.467 --> 00:42:48.297
She's around.
00:42:48.496 --> 00:42:49.126
They're with us.
00:42:49.367 --> 00:42:51.617
Just, those signs that, that's not a coincidence.
00:42:51.806 --> 00:42:52.306
He didn't do it.
00:42:52.306 --> 00:42:53.536
He didn't even know what I'm talking about.
00:42:53.536 --> 00:42:55.577
He used to look at me like I was a nutso.
00:42:56.317 --> 00:43:07.507
And now he has his own way of seeing those things show up and receiving that, but- Very Those are the things that have happened that would be really easy to just be like,"Oh, that's not anything." That didn't happen.
00:43:07.547 --> 00:43:10.677
It's just this or just that." those were real things that showed up.
00:43:10.717 --> 00:43:12.706
Those were real signs that, I'm not skipping over.
00:43:14.157 --> 00:43:14.547
They're there.
00:43:14.827 --> 00:43:15.436
God is everywhere.
00:43:15.726 --> 00:43:15.847
Yep.
00:43:16.297 --> 00:43:18.036
That's a great reminder.
00:43:18.786 --> 00:43:19.217
Very cool.
00:43:19.556 --> 00:43:20.447
Thanks for sharing that story.
00:43:20.507 --> 00:43:21.226
Yeah, absolutely.
00:43:21.226 --> 00:43:22.556
Thanks for letting me.
00:43:23.257 --> 00:43:24.822
What helps Robin stay rooted?
00:43:25.523 --> 00:43:34.592
It's those daily practices, like being outside, taking some time for myself, working out, which I will say through basketball season has been interesting to navigate.
00:43:35.342 --> 00:43:39.983
I haven't been at the gym a lot, but I have worked out at home and given myself some space.
00:43:40.273 --> 00:43:44.112
I've done some meditations, more walking, like low impact.
00:43:44.322 --> 00:43:46.362
I'll be back to the gym after basketball season- is over.
00:43:46.362 --> 00:43:49.132
But, it was just a shift in what I needed for my body.
00:43:49.132 --> 00:43:55.782
So one, understanding that and making the shifts where I need them, so that I can feel supported and not drained.
00:43:56.862 --> 00:43:58.132
spending time with my animals.
00:43:58.793 --> 00:44:04.172
Again, it all- Great usually goes back to being outside, being in nature, and being with them
00:44:04.873 --> 00:44:19.103
Robin, thanks for trusting me, and thank you for your ripple effect that you have on myself, and now you get to have this ripple effect on the listeners of sharing your story, sharing some of your tools.
00:44:20.413 --> 00:44:34.862
And as easy as they may sound of just walk outside, leave your phone, leave the distractions in the house or wherever they go, how valuable of a tool that is that gets often overlooked of just go outside.
00:44:35.293 --> 00:44:36.693
Take out the just, go outside.
00:44:37.492 --> 00:44:37.713
Yeah.
00:44:38.103 --> 00:44:40.152
It is simple, but it's effective.
00:44:40.202 --> 00:44:41.342
simple and effective.
00:44:41.422 --> 00:44:42.032
Very well said.
00:44:42.733 --> 00:44:59.032
What stayed with me the most from this conversation, a lot of things, as always from our conversations, but one of the things that was, that sticks with me is how easy it is to allow somebody else to have a different perspective and be able to receive it.
00:45:00.072 --> 00:45:10.003
That was a key yesterday and it was a key again today of being open-minded enough to Receive somebody else's perspective and not fight it.
00:45:10.362 --> 00:45:13.652
it's a tool to use and it's a tool to learn.
00:45:14.802 --> 00:45:23.333
but being able to have a different perspective and be able to view our, my own perspective from your lens, how valuable that is.
00:45:23.722 --> 00:45:33.713
So hopefully a listener can be able to take a tool from what we gave today and have a different perspective on their life, and hopefully they get a shift from that.
00:45:34.452 --> 00:45:41.793
Or maybe they get to listen to somebody else that gives them a perspective shift on life that helps them put a smile on their face.
00:45:42.353 --> 00:45:42.833
Yeah.
00:45:42.943 --> 00:45:43.742
Bring some joy
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bring some joy.
00:45:44.563 --> 00:45:46.552
How can someone find you if they wanna work with you?
00:45:46.813 --> 00:45:51.072
They can find me personally on Facebook or Instagram, and then I have a business page.
00:45:51.132 --> 00:45:53.972
My business is Whole Soul Wellness or Right Massage.
00:45:54.282 --> 00:45:55.193
Thanks for having me, Todd.
