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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
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I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
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our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
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in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
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going over the same parenting topics over and over.
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So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
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we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
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thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
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if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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and let's all make like we're doing something important for
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our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
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a newer entertainment property, and for this week of January nineteenth,
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we're continuing with and in fact finishing up with the Lowdown.
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This was the we watched the last episode of season one.
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It was called The Sensitive Kind, in which almost everything
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was wrapped up pretty neatly except Bettie.
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Kyle McLaughlan watched some of the past episodes that said,
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wait a minute, am I have the bad guy in this? Wait? No, no,
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I'm an ain't actor. I don't want to. I this
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looks like I'm gonna probably die at the end to
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be evil. Oh let's fix that, shall we? I wasna
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like to be You got a season two? I kind
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of like to be in season two?
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Yes?
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Okay? And suddenly yes, and it is old Donald. He's
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a good guy. Look at him.
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He's a good guy.
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Now he has suddled. We like that guy, don't we?
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All right? I'm sorry, go ahead? No?
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He Lee?
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I mean what happened? Lee writes the story of how
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all this went down? Well, first of all, going back
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to the cliffhanger we left it on, was Lee with
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about ten or fifteen guns pointed at him inside a church.
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But Marty busts in and saves him by claiming to
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be a federal agent.
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And what follows, and they drive off and nobody follows them.
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Well, but they shoot the crap out of the white van,
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which still lives, and Marty, remember Marty gets like grazed
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by a bullet, and he's.
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Like freaking out, the screaming like a baby, the whole
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the whole way. As they go, I thought they were
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going to pull up to the same convenience store where.
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Lee got a makeover classes in the hat.
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Yeah, yeah, that's what they were doing, but that's not
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what it has called that. So so Lee survives his ridiculous.
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Yeah, nobody comes after him.
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Yeah, he just goes back to his bookshop, writes his article. Understand,
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yeah I don't that was very much a handwave situation.
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He but he writes his article and then he decides
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he's going to show it to Donald's rather than just
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you know, put it out there and yeah, you know,
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get ruin everything for Donald. He'll he'll just tell him.
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And that's when Donald reveals himself to be a real
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dummy who had no idea that anything was happening. And
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then Lee has this brilliant idea like, well, if you
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give this land to back to the native people, then
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everything will be fine. And that's kind of what.
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I mean.
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I just don't know if like Lee, this whole time
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has been like I'm a true story and like I'm
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a writer, I need to, you know, tell the world
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what's going on. But then he's like, actually, in this case,
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I'm gonna let you slide as long as you do
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this thing for me.
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Yeah. I would guess it's because Betty Joe sort of
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makes it clear to him that it was as if
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it could not have been already. Further reinforces that he's
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the one who got the old guy killed. Yeah, and
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that you know, it's his fault and he wants to
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make it right. So I guess he feels that this
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is a way he can do that, and it's worth
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I guess, compromising.
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His journalistic ethics.
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Journalistic ethics. But he also gets to write a tribute
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to this guy who to Dan, it looks it looks
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like he met Although was that supposed to be real
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or was that supposed to be a dream? I couldn't
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quite tell.
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Yeah, good question. They show They show Dale coming into
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the bookstore and then having a little exchange. But then
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at the end of the at some point later, someone
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asked if you ever met Dale, and he said.
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No, yes, but with a little twinkle in his eyes,
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it however you wish. Yes, But you know, it brings
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it back all around to the victim, and it tells
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an interesting story and I imagine has some things that
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are maybe a little damning in it. I don't know.
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But and he gives he gives the letters Dale's Letter
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to Pearl Letters to Pearl. So now she knows right,
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and Betty Joe is apparently reduced to a life of
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lounge singing based on the scene after the credit yeah,
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which just sounds like the actor said, Hey, I know
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what am I saying?
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Yeah? And how how does she not get actually booed
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off the stage if she's standing up there crying. I
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don't know that seems good.
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It's fine, we understand, but uh. And Lee's ex wife
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gets married and he goes to the wedding and he
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nobly tells Francis that's okay, you go live with them,
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and you know, I understand, but I thought that was
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kind of what.
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No, she's not having it. No, she calls him on
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his bs and then he just kind of goes away
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and doesn't you know, who knows what's leaves? That leaves
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it for season two to see how that works out.
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But yeah, she was, you know, father of the Year.
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He is not.
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I didn't try.
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The mother of the Year gets revenge for her son
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at the very end. Oh yeah, kills the big bad guy.
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I guess. Lee goes and there's a scene where Lee
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seems to be telling her what happened to hers.
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The mother of the skinhead.
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Yeah, yes, And then we see a scene of Frank,
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you know, get into his car. He seems like he's
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worried about something, but not her, I don't think. And
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then just out of the blue, you see her face
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coming and it's like, ohh goodbye, Frank. Could you put
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him in a trunk and dump him, dump him off
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a bridge?
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Yes, just for the final poetic justice, for.
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The flat of poetic justice. But anyway, that was you
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know that that uh, that mom had a good scene
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early on. Nice to see her back taking care of things, yep.
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Enforcing justice, frontier justice. Yeah.
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I was gonna say at the at the wedding, Lee
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brings like this painting as a wedding gift, and I
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believe he stole it.
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You know, stole it in the first episode.
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In the first episode and the husband is He's like, oh,
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where are we gonna hang this? He's like, I'm trying
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to be nice here. My wife seems to like this,
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but oh mg, what is this?
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Every time he sees it, he's gonna think about Lee.
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That's gonna be a problem. But they kept talking about
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how expensive the wedding was, and I was feeling like, oh, no,
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they're not gonna the husband. New husband is not going
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to be some tie in with some of the stuff.
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Is why are they making a big deal about the cost, right,
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But if they're going to do that, they didn't do
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that now, And I was glad, But it did seem
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like kind of a little throwing a little line out there.
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Let's see what it catches, you know, But weddings are expensive,
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so it could just mean nothing.
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At all, right, or just like sort of a contrast
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with her life.
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And yeah, Francis's life could be so swell and lives
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over a bookstore that has a big hole in the window.
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At the present time, they get oh is it a
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book slot?
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Multiple people yes, And his van is left there at
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the wedding venue, so it can be shot at multiple
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time and still go. But I guess maybe this is
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the this is the outcome of.
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That, the final straw for this van going to that webman,
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I'll just walk.
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I'll get you. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I'll go way
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back into town. So it's I think this was a
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longer episode than most, and yet still it did seem
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to get this whole messy and extremely dangerous plot did
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sat seemed to get cleaned up pretty easily. Yeah, and
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because I still one, it looks like.
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Yeah, it looks like it. And the the evil church,
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you know, was raided.
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They got arrested, raided.
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By the FBI or whoever, and everybody goes.
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We got to come up and smantage at the end. Yes,
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all the bad people have been taken care of, so
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it's okay, carry on, right, And that seemed a little tidy, yes,
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because these these people had been presented as such treacherous
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and unstoppable evil.
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But ah, okay, but indeed they were stopped.
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I mean, I don't I don't know why. When they
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fled the church, it didn't look like anybody was following them.
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And then they were yeah he got shot in late stuff.
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But I mean they were at that wherever they got
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the animal tranquilizer stuff, yeah, or whatever that was muscle.
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I'm not going to go into what that was. But
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the medication that relaxed. Nobody came running up or running in.
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They know where Lee lives. Nobody came running up or
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running in. They could have come to the wedding and
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shot everybody, nobody comes just like they said, Oh well,
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thank god those guys are out of the room. You know,
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we're done with them. Yeah, it seemed seemed wrong based
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on what we've been told about. Yeah, the inexorability of
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their evil.
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I mean, I guess we could interpret as maybe all
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those events were not shown in order.
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Right, I mean, yes, possibly, I don't know, And I
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mean I would think that Donald would get a bullet
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pretty quick, stepped off the stepped off the reservation, so
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to speak. But no, yep, it's all good. So good guys,
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you're all arrested. Everything's everything's fun.
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But there will be some more bad guys because there's
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a season two.
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That's right, So so time for lead to piss off
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somebody else.
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Let's go as we said I think we said last time.
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Let's bring Wendell back. Let's bring Peter Dinklish back.
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To Yes, knock some sense so he can come back
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and say he's got some he's got some story for
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him to research or some Yeah, and there we go.
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I like its go.
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I like it. So now that we are walking the
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entire distance away from this this story, which direction are
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we walking into? Are we going to a college Town
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for example.
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Well, we eventually are going to walk over to where
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is it Pasadena? Where yes, our friends from Shrinkings going back,
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but we need a little something to do before Shrinking
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comes back. So we are going to revisit Man on
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the Inside, which we watched I feel recent, the last season.
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But there's already another season.
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This the second season.
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Yeah, it came out in the fall, I think. So
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we're just gonna binge that bad boy and talk about
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the whole entire season too next week. Yay, Yes, so
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we'll find out how how they're coming up with it.
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I mean, it's pretty easy to come up with a
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new story for that that type of show because it
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was nominally a solve the solve a mystery over the
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course of the season. So we just need another situation,
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another mystery to come along. And apparently one.
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Has funny how that works is when you need a mystery,
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here it comes.
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Here it comes. So we'll watch that and so we'll
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talk about it all next week. We will see you
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
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I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
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thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
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if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
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a newer entertainment property, and for this week of January nineteenth,
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we're continuing with and in fact finishing up with the Lowdown.
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This was the we watched the last episode of season one.
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It was called The Sensitive Kind, in which almost everything
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was wrapped up pretty neatly except Bettie.
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Kyle McLaughlan watched some of the past episodes that said,
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wait a minute, am I have the bad guy in this? Wait? No, no,
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I'm an ain't actor. I don't want to. I this
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looks like I'm gonna probably die at the end to
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be evil. Oh let's fix that, shall we? I wasna
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like to be You got a season two? I kind
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of like to be in season two?
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Yes?
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Okay? And suddenly yes, and it is old Donald. He's
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a good guy. Look at him.
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He's a good guy.
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Now he has suddled. We like that guy, don't we?
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All right? I'm sorry, go ahead? No?
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He Lee?
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I mean what happened? Lee writes the story of how
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all this went down? Well, first of all, going back
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to the cliffhanger we left it on, was Lee with
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about ten or fifteen guns pointed at him inside a church.
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But Marty busts in and saves him by claiming to
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be a federal agent.
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which still lives, and Marty, remember Marty gets like grazed
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by a bullet, and he's.
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Like freaking out, the screaming like a baby, the whole
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the whole way. As they go, I thought they were
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going to pull up to the same convenience store where.
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Lee got a makeover classes in the hat.
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Yeah, yeah, that's what they were doing, but that's not
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what it has called that. So so Lee survives his ridiculous.
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Yeah, he just goes back to his bookshop, writes his article. Understand,
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yeah I don't that was very much a handwave situation.
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He but he writes his article and then he decides
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he's going to show it to Donald's rather than just
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you know, put it out there and yeah, you know,
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get ruin everything for Donald. He'll he'll just tell him.
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dummy who had no idea that anything was happening. And
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then Lee has this brilliant idea like, well, if you
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give this land to back to the native people, then
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everything will be fine. And that's kind of what.
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I just don't know if like Lee, this whole time
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has been like I'm a true story and like I'm
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a writer, I need to, you know, tell the world
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what's going on. But then he's like, actually, in this case,
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I'm gonna let you slide as long as you do
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this thing for me.
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makes it clear to him that it was as if
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it could not have been already. Further reinforces that he's
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the one who got the old guy killed. Yeah, and
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that you know, it's his fault and he wants to
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make it right. So I guess he feels that this
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is a way he can do that, and it's worth
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Journalistic ethics. But he also gets to write a tribute
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to this guy who to Dan, it looks it looks
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like he met Although was that supposed to be real
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or was that supposed to be a dream? I couldn't
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the bookstore and then having a little exchange. But then
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at the end of the at some point later, someone
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asked if you ever met Dale, and he said.
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it however you wish. Yes, But you know, it brings
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it back all around to the victim, and it tells
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an interesting story and I imagine has some things that
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are maybe a little damning in it. I don't know.
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to Pearl Letters to Pearl. So now she knows right,
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and Betty Joe is apparently reduced to a life of
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lounge singing based on the scene after the credit yeah,
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which just sounds like the actor said, Hey, I know
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what am I saying?
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off the stage if she's standing up there crying. I
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don't know that seems good.
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It's fine, we understand, but uh. And Lee's ex wife
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gets married and he goes to the wedding and he
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nobly tells Francis that's okay, you go live with them,
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and you know, I understand, but I thought that was
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kind of what.
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his bs and then he just kind of goes away
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and doesn't you know, who knows what's leaves? That leaves
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it for season two to see how that works out.
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But yeah, she was, you know, father of the Year.
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He is not.
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I didn't try.
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The mother of the Year gets revenge for her son
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at the very end. Oh yeah, kills the big bad guy.
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I guess. Lee goes and there's a scene where Lee
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seems to be telling her what happened to hers.
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The mother of the skinhead.
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you know, get into his car. He seems like he's
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worried about something, but not her, I don't think. And
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then just out of the blue, you see her face
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coming and it's like, ohh goodbye, Frank. Could you put
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him in a trunk and dump him, dump him off
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a bridge?
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The flat of poetic justice. But anyway, that was you
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know that that uh, that mom had a good scene
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early on. Nice to see her back taking care of things, yep.
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Enforcing justice, frontier justice. Yeah.
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I was gonna say at the at the wedding, Lee
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brings like this painting as a wedding gift, and I
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believe he stole it.
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You know, stole it in the first episode.
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In the first episode and the husband is He's like, oh,
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where are we gonna hang this? He's like, I'm trying
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to be nice here. My wife seems to like this,
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but oh mg, what is this?
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That's gonna be a problem. But they kept talking about
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how expensive the wedding was, and I was feeling like, oh, no,
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they're not gonna the husband. New husband is not going
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to be some tie in with some of the stuff.
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Is why are they making a big deal about the cost, right,
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that now, And I was glad, But it did seem
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like kind of a little throwing a little line out there.
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so it could just mean nothing.
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At all, right, or just like sort of a contrast
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with her life.
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over a bookstore that has a big hole in the window.
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At the present time, they get oh is it a
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book slot?
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Multiple people yes, And his van is left there at
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the wedding venue, so it can be shot at multiple
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time and still go. But I guess maybe this is
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the this is the outcome of.
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That, the final straw for this van going to that webman,
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I'll just walk.
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I'll get you. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I'll go way
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back into town. So it's I think this was a
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longer episode than most, and yet still it did seem
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to get this whole messy and extremely dangerous plot did
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sat seemed to get cleaned up pretty easily. Yeah, and
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because I still one, it looks like.
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you know, was raided.
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They got arrested, raided.
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By the FBI or whoever, and everybody goes.
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all the bad people have been taken care of, so
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it's okay, carry on, right, And that seemed a little tidy, yes,
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because these these people had been presented as such treacherous
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and unstoppable evil.
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But ah, okay, but indeed they were stopped.
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fled the church, it didn't look like anybody was following them.
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the animal tranquilizer stuff, yeah, or whatever that was muscle.
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I'm not going to go into what that was. But
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the medication that relaxed. Nobody came running up or running in.
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They know where Lee lives. Nobody came running up or
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running in. They could have come to the wedding and
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shot everybody, nobody comes just like they said, Oh well,
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thank god those guys are out of the room. You know,
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we're done with them. Yeah, it seemed seemed wrong based
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on what we've been told about. Yeah, the inexorability of
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their evil.
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those events were not shown in order.
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pretty quick, stepped off the stepped off the reservation, so
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to speak. But no, yep, it's all good. So good guys,
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you're all arrested. Everything's everything's fun.
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a season two.
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That's right, So so time for lead to piss off
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somebody else.
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Let's go as we said I think we said last time.
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Let's bring Wendell back. Let's bring Peter Dinklish back.
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To Yes, knock some sense so he can come back
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and say he's got some he's got some story for
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him to research or some Yeah, and there we go.
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I like its go.
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I like it. So now that we are walking the
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entire distance away from this this story, which direction are
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we walking into? Are we going to a college Town
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for example.
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Well, we eventually are going to walk over to where
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is it Pasadena? Where yes, our friends from Shrinkings going back,
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comes back. So we are going to revisit Man on
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the Inside, which we watched I feel recent, the last season.
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we're just gonna binge that bad boy and talk about
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the whole entire season too next week. Yay, Yes, so
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we'll find out how how they're coming up with it.
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was nominally a solve the solve a mystery over the
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course of the season. So we just need another situation,
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another mystery to come along. And apparently one.
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Has funny how that works is when you need a mystery,
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here it comes.
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Here it comes. So we'll watch that and so we'll
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talk about it all next week. We will see you
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