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Speaker 1: The youngsters put me on. I heard them.
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Speaker 2: They was chopping it up and they was talking about single and single, single. Now, I don't know how explicit I could be, but y'all could do y'all thing when y'all do it.
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Speaker 1: But I think single is just like I be fucking.
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Speaker 2: The single single is, you got Desert Storm down there. So if you Desert Storm, then baby, you got to figure something out. You know what I'm saying? Because that ain't the way to go. This life is too short to be Desert Storm. You got to find something going.
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Speaker 3: On.
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Speaker 4: So first of all, you drive. Like, you have a death wish.
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Speaker 3: I drive a Porsche, and I should drive like I drive a Porsche.
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Speaker 4: I mean, but all of us ain't trying to die.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: I'm still here, luckily.
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Speaker 3: She drives a Maserati. She drives it two miles per hour. It's like sitting in the car with Auntie listening to Dateline. Literally listening to Dateline.
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Speaker 4: I do listen to Dateline in the car.
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Speaker 3: She listens to Dateline in the car. But do you ever take the Maserati out?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 3: No. Never. Never.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the most I've gone, I've gone 100 in it, but that's like the most. Yeah. Well, it goes to like 180, something insane.
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Speaker 3: She's very appropriate.
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Speaker 4: I just want to know why. It's fine if you have a Porsche.
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Speaker 3: I was asking Coscarelli about his new drive and now you want to make fun of me.
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Speaker 4: Because you drive like an insane person.
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Speaker 3: I drive defensively. No, no, no.
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Speaker 4: It's not just defensively. Like you're literally, I'm just like, are we running from the law?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: Have you, are you auditioning for Fast and Furious?
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Speaker 3: Also perhaps.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: She's an offensive and a defensive driver. Let me tell you something.
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Speaker 3: The people in LA, you never know what's going to happen and you have to be ready for anything. You have to be able to move quickly. You have to be agile. It's almost like being a quarterback. You have to be ready for anything.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what that was, but I just do know I just try to avoid getting in the car with you. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Well, when I was in the car with this one, Cosgrove, he doesn't want this. He's like, did I answer this? Can we just do the podcast?
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Speaker 4: But we don't give it to him anyway.
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Speaker 1: Can we do it?
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Speaker 3: First of all, I didn't know that Shark Coochie was a common saying.
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Speaker 4: As we transition, we have Marshawn Lynch coming up on Flagrant and Funny, and he introduced us to many terms. One of which was Shark Coochie.
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Speaker 3: But apparently everyone already knows this.
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Speaker 4: They knew about it. I didn't know anything about Shark Coochie.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so why are we so late? Because they're like, we've been saying that for years.
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Speaker 4: I didn't know that. So Shark Coochie, for those who are uninitiated, is.
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Speaker 3: Most people know now. Well... Yeah.
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Speaker 4: For the few that don't... It's charcuterie. It's charcuterie, but they call it Shark Coochie.
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Speaker 3: Coscarelli, did you know that? I hadn't heard that. Ever?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 3: I was dying when I said it. Okay.
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Speaker 4: Yes. Okay. So we were unaware of Sharkoochie.
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Speaker 3: Okay. So great. We're all in agreement.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So I.
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Speaker 4: But speaking of Coochie.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: What kind of transition is that?
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Speaker 4: Are you dating Coscarelli?
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Speaker 1: That's the transition?
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Speaker 4: No, that's not the transition. The transition is Carrie has a coochie plant at our house.
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: You have a coochie plant.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: Do you not have a coochie plant?
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Speaker 1: Am I lying?
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Speaker 3: I think Coscarelli likes me now. He just winked. He goes, tell me more.
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Speaker 4: This is weird. Do you not have a Gucci plan?
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Speaker 3: Should I talk to HR? This is weird.
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Speaker 4: Listen, I got the video of you and the Gucci plan.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so first of all, I have a good friend of mine who also likes to steal when we go places. So we went to this place. I love that you say also. Because I join her in taking sometimes cutlery.
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Speaker 4: Interesting.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes things that belong to a restaurant, I take them with me. As have you.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I take. You take glasses all the time.
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Speaker 3: I take glasses from bars.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about it.
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Speaker 1: I have a few.
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Speaker 3: Okay. So they had these really cute, like, vases that had the- Now you're trying to classy it up. Yeah, it's a vase.
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Speaker 4: It was coochie.
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Speaker 3: It was a vase that was similar to coochie. And so she took.
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Speaker 4: Them- Not similar. It is a coochie diagram. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, I confess. You know what?
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Speaker 4: I'm going to send a video. I have a Coochie plan. So that y'all will play it while we're talking.
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Speaker 3: And I love it. And it's a giver of life in more ways than one. The word Coochie is so weird.
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Speaker 4: It's so funny, though.
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Speaker 3: It's so weird.
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Speaker 4: It's so funny, though. You can spell it so many ways. I love how our friend Tony Baker, the comedian, spells it. K. K-E-W.
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Speaker 3: That's how I spelled it.
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Speaker 4: Yes. K-E-W.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: C-H-I-E.
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Speaker 3: Coochie.
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Speaker 1: Coochie.
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Speaker 3: Are we allowed to say that?
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Speaker 4: I don't know. This could all be bleeped. Kudos. But yes, Carrie has a coochie plant. So everybody knows.
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Speaker 3: And it's a giver of life and it's beautiful. And you'll see, it's just, and it's a small, it's a small little plant. It's just a little reminder of, of, of mother nature. It's what it is.
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Speaker 4: Is that what it's reminding?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that what you act like?
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Speaker 4: You ain't got one. I do not have a Gucci plan in my house. But you have one. So why are you acting like it's so odd? I possess one as a woman, but like, I don't, you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: This is so uncomfortable.
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Speaker 4: Well, Considering the interview that people are about to hear in a moment.
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Speaker 3: They're going to get used to this.
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Speaker 4: We're warming them up. It's a primer. We're warming you up because we're in the thick of it with Marshawn Lynch, who was amazing and wonderful.
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Speaker 3: He was so, you know what I like the most about when we had the opportunity to talk to him? He is always joyful. He's always a good time. I wonder, you know, you think you see him, you're like, do you ever have a bad day? I'm sure he does, but he's really fun.
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Speaker 4: His spirit is infectious. But it was funny how he called us wild. I was like, I'm sorry. You don't want to talk about Sharkoochie.
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Speaker 3: Well, Coscarelli called him charming. He is very charming.
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Speaker 4: That is true.
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Speaker 3: That is an accurate description.
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Speaker 4: That is a very accurate description. So y'all will hear that in a moment.
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Speaker 3: You're going to love it because we talked about, just FYI for those who, this is why you got to stick around and listen. You guys all know that Chris Johnson has ALS, former NFL player. Chris Johnson has ALS, former running back. And he talked about his first visit to see him, talked about the friendship. And it was really, really beautiful. It was. Because I think when we found out, I know many people were shocked. I'm sure other people who have known him were.
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Speaker 4: The deterioration happened so fast.
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Speaker 3: It was so rapid.
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Speaker 4: Yep, it did.
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Speaker 3: ALS is, you know, much like cancer, it is not discriminant. Is that the way to say it? It goes to anyone.
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Speaker 2: Anybody.
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Speaker 3: Anybody can have it. It's so sad to see somebody so young with. family, anybody, period. But the deterioration is really scary. But Marshawn talks about it in a very eloquent way so that we all can understand it. He breaks it down, which I love.
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Speaker 4: And he talks about his new graphic novel that he has out. Beast Mode 510. Shout out to Oakland.
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Speaker 3: And he also talks about dating.
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Speaker 4: He gave you some excellent dating advice.
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Speaker 3: He kind of talks about his life and put me on game.
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Speaker 1: He did.
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Speaker 4: You're right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because he don't want you to be Desert Storm out here.
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Speaker 3: I was like, what?
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Speaker 4: What are we talking about? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: But maybe that's why you have a Gucci plant. Is that why? I was like, I'm not married. Married people are dead because you're fully Desert Storm because you're married. So it's like, what?
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Speaker 4: I love how you think, you know, we a rainforest up in here. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Okay, talk it, talk it, talk it. Meanwhile, we had a lot that we haven't covered. Congratulations to the Atlanta Dream and the Golden State Valkyries. That is our WNBA finals for 2026. Two sweeps. Two sweeps. Absolutely amazing. There were so many things to talk about. I will go with first, though. We need to say all hail the queen. Five-time MVP.
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Speaker 4: Asia Wilson. Yep.
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Speaker 3: And I thought. She was so gracious. I loved the push, the marketing push. I love what they showed us. I love Bam giving her so much love, telling her who she is, and calling her wife, putting everybody like, ooh, look, they married. I don't know if it's legally.
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Speaker 4: But yes. In our minds.
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Speaker 3: In our minds, they are married.
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Speaker 1: They married.
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Speaker 4: It don't matter.
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Speaker 3: And I loved it. And I love that Don Staley narrated a beautiful video to her. I love the memes of her with like Will Chamberlain, Bill Russell. I think other people who won five. Oh, Michael Jordan. I think it was Michael Jordan. How many MVPs did, Buff, how many MVPs did Michael Jordan get? There's been a couple of memes going around, but she was on the mountaintop with them. And I thought it was only apropos.
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Speaker 4: Because I think she might have more than Jordan.
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Speaker 3: You think so?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm trying to think of how many. I know LeBron has four, I think.
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Speaker 3: You think she has more than Jordan? Let me look it up. He's at five, yeah. Oh, he does have five. And how many does Bill Russell have? Because I think that was what it was. It was Michael Jordan, Bill Russell.
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Speaker 1: And her.
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Speaker 3: And they were all just sitting there chilling like, we did it. And what? So impressive. Congratulations. Yeah, five. Perfect. That's what I saw. Look at me doing my thing.
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Speaker 4: Look at you. Look at you. A fountain of knowledge. And you know what? Real quick, let's hear from Asia Wilson first. when she accepted the MVP, her fifth.
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Speaker 5: You dream as a young girl. You dream so big and you write your goals out and you just never imagine that you were able to just check them off. And when you're able to check them off, small wins, big wins, it truly means a lot. And so I think that's why I cried a little bit harder on this one because 15-year-old Aisha wasn't sitting up here dreaming about being a five-time MVP. She wasn't dreaming about being a three-time champion. She was just dreaming about surviving this world. And so for me to sit up here with surrounded by these trophies and to be able to play the game of basketball every single day, it just means a little bit more to me. And it's something that I won't.
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Speaker 1: Take for granted.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm with you. I think it was a it's an incredible achievement. Everybody's always like, OK, so does this officially make Asia Wilson the best player?
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Speaker 1: Ever.
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Speaker 4: Does this make her the GOAT? I think in women's basketball, that's a really tough discussion because it's not just hardware. Of course, it's like, you know, you look at a bunch of different accomplishments. She's definitely in the conversation. But I think the women's game is one where I don't know that I can really name a goat because it's so hard.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's very similar to in the NBA. There are people who will fight you if you say that LeBron's not to go there. There there's a generation.
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Speaker 4: But it feels like a two man race, though, even though Kareem, I think Kareem, to me, has a case that is often dismissed. I mean, he changed the game at every single level.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's because so few people are now on social and have experience that they can't really talk about it that way.
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Speaker 4: And he's a big dude.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to be a historian of the game, that too. Okay, wait a second. You're right. It is a two-man race, but my goat is going to be Kobe. But you're right. It would be arguably, generally speaking.
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Speaker 4: Generally speaking.
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Speaker 3: Well, it could be a two-woman race right now.
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Speaker 4: I mean, some people say Diana Taurasi. Some people say Cynthia Cooper. Some people say Cheryl Swoops. Some people say Cheryl Swoops. And even people like to put Cheryl Miller in there. It's like, but she didn't play in the WNBA. And it's a shame because I think before the WNBA existed, most people probably would say Cheryl Miller. But I think it's just a much tougher, because some people say Maya Moore. It's just like an incredibly tough decision to make.
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Speaker 3: But listen, you might get me leaning like I was like, it's a two woman race, Maya and Asia.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know that it is. I think it's broader than that.
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Speaker 3: And then I think Cynthia, like you're right. You can't call it.
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Speaker 4: You can't call it like it's tough.
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Speaker 3: I wonder why we can't call it. We'll have this conversation again a couple of years from now.
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Speaker 4: Why can't we call it?
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Speaker 3: There's a reason why. And I don't know. We haven't really delved into that. But let's figure out why. Everyone's going to have their own version. And it's an argument that I love to have because we're having the argument, the debate about who is the greatest of all time in the WNBA. It's a beautiful debate to have.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think even if you're in the conversation, like, that's the win. But the fact is, like, Asia Wilson, I think she's played nine seasons. And the fact that half of those seasons she has won MVP is the most absurd statistic I can possibly think.
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Speaker 1: Of for a player.
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Speaker 4: It's like, she's won five out of the nine times that she's been in the league. That is, that's insane.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it hasn't been as if the competition hasn't been great. She's been playing with the greats. Those have even then retired and moved on. She's been playing with some really amazing talent. I think that, yeah, wow.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't even know.
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Speaker 3: You're like, I don't even know where to go. You can make a case for a lot of these ladies for various reasons and what they were able to accomplish. And also for the simple fact that while we have more eyes on the game now, it feels as if we have more eyes on the game now, there are a lot of people who never witnessed Cynthia play or Cheryl and Cynthia play together or Cheryl, Cynthia, and Tina play together in that case. Or for that matter, somebody would say, or Maya. Like, that wasn't that long ago. Maya wasn't that long ago.
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Speaker 4: She wasn't.
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Speaker 3: Right, but did we have the same amount of attention? I don't know. People would be like, it's hard-pressed to find somebody saying Maya wasn't it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, Maya, I think she only played eight seasons. And so... you think about what the rest of her career might have looked like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah. If, if that's what she had wanted to do.
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Speaker 4: Correct. If she, but she obviously walked away for, uh, the important reason of, of, you know, changing the world, changing the world, becoming more active. Um, she's married to him now. She, she freed her husband from like, uh, an unjust, you know, sort of sentence on his life. So it's, it, it was a lot more to it. So it's kind of hard to say, but, Getting back to this finals matchup, it's like, shout out to the dream. I didn't realize this. I looked it up. But maybe now we can look at it from this perspective. Gabby Williams and Angel Reese might be the two biggest acquisitions this offseason of the W. So, like, they traded— the Chicago Sky traded Angel Reese. And I remind people, traded. They traded her, okay?
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Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 4: They traded her, like, I think it was April 6th.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 4: And something like two weeks later, the Golden State Valkyries signed Gabby Williams to a multi-year deal.
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Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 4: They both got picked up in the same month. And now they're both meeting in the finals. And I'm like, wow. That is astounding on top of the many layers of this finals that we're about to see between these two teams. Especially for Angel. It's like, you know, Chicago, they've had some problems.
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Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. When you say they have some problems. They've had a lot of problems.
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Speaker 4: Like when you look at the list of players they've had and no longer have, you know.
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Speaker 3: But I also, let's just give back. Let's go back because it wasn't that long ago. I want to say 20, when did they win the championship with Candice?
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Speaker 1: 2022?
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Speaker 3: 2023? It wasn't. So what happened between 2023 and 2026? Let me look up when they won the chip.
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Speaker 4: But there was, they have, they should be more relevant than they are. And Angel was, you know, she was critical.
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Speaker 3: 2021. 2021.
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Speaker 4: That's not that far. I mean, that's five years ago.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
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Speaker 4: And so she was critical of them. And I don't think her criticism, it wasn't unfair. She was just saying, like, we need to be better in every area. Build a team. Like, we have some components, but we need so much more. And they shipped her out of there because she was a little too honest.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the way it came across. That's the way it came across. That's the way on top of, you know, you buy her teaspoon after one year. They are a little bit in disarray. And I think this makes it look worse. The fact that she's going on to another team. And I get it. Atlanta was a playoff team. They had some components. But Angel has taken this team to another level. And that is, to me, just indisputable.
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Speaker 3: So. But shout out to Jordan Canada. I also want to just talk about. Man, Jordan Canada. I honestly believe, like, yes, Angel was everything. But Jordan was instant offense. She was, I mean, lights out. She was playing with a certain type of theory that she could not be denied. It reminded me of Gabriela Jaquez. Not the same.
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Speaker 4: Type of play. Look at you shout now, UCLA all over the place.
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Speaker 3: But do you remember in that championship game?
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Speaker 4: Oh, she wasn't playing.
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Speaker 3: She couldn't be denied. She plays for the Chicago Sky. So we haven't been able to, I mean, listen, that team in itself and that organization obviously has to do some retooling. And I hope that she can shine brighter if she has to stay there in whatever capacity. But she, what she, she was like, I wanted her to be MVP. She couldn't be the MVP, obviously. But in my mind, I was like, she was just there. Everything was hers. She was hustling on both sides. And I was just like, I love everything about her. And that's how I felt about Jordan Canada. And yes, I'm going to shout out UCLA. And that same thing, I want to go on over to Golden State and talk about that head coach. Do you want to do that?
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Speaker 4: Oh, talk about, I've.
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Speaker 3: Seen more UCLA. Oh my gosh, here we go.
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Speaker 1: Next.
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Speaker 3: Point guard from 98 to 2003 at UCLA. She spent some time abroad. She's from Huntington Beach, Orange County, California. I will say this. The only thing that makes me a little concerned is that she did spend some time with the Clippers. I'm not going to hold that against her. Anybody who knows me knows I hate the Clippers.
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Speaker 1: I'm so petty.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to have to get over that. You're going to have to explain this to me.
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Speaker 3: I'm so petty.
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Speaker 4: I do not understand why you hate a team that has never been on the Lakers level.
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Speaker 3: Because they exist.
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Speaker 4: They just can't exist.
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Speaker 3: The same way you hate. I don't have to explain anything to you, Michigan State fan. You hate.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I hate the University of Michigan. Yes, but that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: No, you hate other teams too for no reason. Like anything. I hate the Seahawks. It's so unnecessary.
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Speaker 4: Shout out to my 49ers. We undefeated. Bust that ass. Anyway. So, yes, but it makes sense why we hate them.
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Speaker 3: You see, her petty makes sense.
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Speaker 4: My petty makes sense. Your petty with the Clippers doesn't make sense.
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Speaker 1: It does.
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Speaker 3: They encroached on our territory. Nobody needed them in Englewood. We was already there up to no good. Nobody needed them. We was there up to no good. They could have easily went to Orange County. Sorry for pounding on the table. They could have easily went somewhere. They didn't need to be in our vicinity. It's like, it's fine.
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Speaker 4: You're like, they don't even deserve to breathe the same air as us. That's like generally your position on them. You're like, why do they exist? Do you agree?
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Speaker 3: I just think it's... Do you agree?
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Giants fans who hate the Patriots.
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Speaker 3: Why?
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Speaker 4: Y'all beat them twice for Super Bowls. They're not all your... I mean, you know, in the context of the games.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: It's like, why do you hate them?
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Speaker 3: And you know what? This is my town. Why are you in my town?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Why are you in my city?
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Speaker 4: Clippers can't get no love. Why are you in my city? It is very strange.
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Speaker 3: Hanging up your JV jerseys. Why are you in my city?
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Speaker 4: When you run into a Clippers fan, it's like a Clippers fan. It's like, I feel like I've. They're just doing it because they're a contrarian.
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Speaker 3: Just because.
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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't. I need to understand how you became one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:19:09
Speaker 4: In this town. Because it's bizarre. Because you have one team that's won 50-11 championships.
00:19:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:19:15
Speaker 4: Y'all ain't won nothing. So it's like, I don't even get like, was it a decision?
00:19:21
Speaker 3: I will walk this back. I will say, I will say they produce Natalie. And so obviously her being on the, on their G league and working with them as a coach on the bench for the actual Clippers playing with them in the NBA. I mean, coaching within the NBA, she's learned a lot. It's helped her become the coach that she is today. And so, therefore, there's something happening there. I don't know.
00:19:45
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:19:45
Speaker 3: Was that a compliment?
00:19:46
Speaker 4: You're disgusted with the Clippers.
00:19:48
Speaker 3: Was that a good... The Clips gonna clip. That's what you always say. I have coined that since... You've coined that phrase. Early 2010s. Yes. And they never.
00:19:57
Speaker 4: They never stop clipping.
00:19:59
Speaker 3: They never disappoint.
00:20:00
Speaker 4: They do not.
00:20:01
Speaker 3: They never disappoint.
00:20:02
Speaker 4: They ain't got a draft pick.
00:20:03
Speaker 3: Pablo Torrey founds out. Go ahead, Pablo.
00:20:05
Speaker 4: They ain't got a draft pick to like 2075. I don't know if our first round pick is like... They spent all that money on that confusing dome, Intuit dome.
00:20:17
Speaker 3: Can't even get in there unless you're a robot. Have you been inside?
00:20:20
Speaker 4: I have not, but it's totally... It's state-of-the-art. It's facial recognition.
00:20:26
Speaker 3: It's all the things. And I'm just like, okay, come on.
00:20:29
Speaker 4: Your cash is not welcome there.
00:20:30
Speaker 3: I'm just like, come on, man. I don't feel like all this. I want to get inside. Like, can I just get inside? Old school, get inside, but whatever. Shout out to the Clippers. I wish you guys the best.
00:20:38
Speaker 4: No, you don't. She's a lie. She hates you. And if you went away tomorrow, she would not care. I hope things get better. She does not. She hopes you guys continue to suck.
00:20:46
Speaker 3: Steve is actually, I like Steve Ballmer. He's actually a nice guy. I actually, I enjoy him saying what's going on.
00:20:51
Speaker 4: I'm inspired by his enthusiasm.
00:20:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so enthusiastic. Okay, go on.
00:20:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you want a winner to be. But as you said, Natalie, Golden State, Gabby Williams, Veronica Burton, Tiffany Hayes. It's going to be interesting.
00:21:14
Speaker 3: Can you pick? I don't think I can pick. You got one? Because you've been so good thus far. Are you ready to say who's going to win it all?
00:21:22
Speaker 4: This, to me, was the best matchup.
00:21:24
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:21:25
Speaker 4: This was the best matchup.
00:21:25
Speaker 3: I agree.
00:21:26
Speaker 4: But I got to be honest, as we are often here on Flagrant and Funny.
00:21:31
Speaker 5: Honest?
00:21:31
Speaker 3: Honest.
00:21:32
Speaker 4: We are often honest.
00:21:33
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:21:34
Speaker 4: Okay. Is, Angel Reese winning a ship feels now like a civil rights movement.
00:21:40
Speaker 3: It just, like, I don't.
00:21:42
Speaker 4: Want to be the one to say, hey, you know, I don't want to pick, don't say, because I feel like the black people are going to rise up against me.
00:21:52
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:21:52
Speaker 4: Like, so.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:21:54
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't, I don't want to.
00:21:55
Speaker 3: That's fair.
00:21:56
Speaker 4: I don't want to do that.
00:21:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:21:57
Speaker 4: Because right now, there are certain matchups, like, let's be honest, in sports, is that, Where you know Black America has galvanized.
00:22:06
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right?
00:22:07
Speaker 4: That's our team. Growing up, the team that we all hated was Duke. Oh. Duke has been a thorn in Black history for a long time.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: They ruined Black history.
00:22:19
Speaker 4: Oh, my God. UNLV.
00:22:20
Speaker 3: Yeah. Michigan. Yeah.
00:22:23
Speaker 4: It's like they have broken... They don't respect black lives.
00:22:28
Speaker 3: You don't fool with Christian Laidner to this day, huh?
00:22:30
Speaker 4: Duke don't respect black lives. They don't.
00:22:32
Speaker 3: Black lives don't matter.
00:22:33
Speaker 4: Black lives don't matter to Duke. And it feels like.
00:22:36
Speaker 3: You are ridiculous.
00:22:38
Speaker 5: They don't.
00:22:38
Speaker 4: They do not matter.
00:22:40
Speaker 3: Christian Laidner is on the phone. He wants to talk to you.
00:22:42
Speaker 4: Yes, I know.
00:22:42
Speaker 3: He's upset with your behavior.
00:22:43
Speaker 1: He finds it egregious.
00:22:44
Speaker 3: He finds you egregious.
00:22:46
Speaker 4: I agree. Okay, go on. But, like, credibly, like, when I meet a black Duke fan, I'm just like, I feel like you're AI. They're a boy. they're AI I don't I was like I don't get why.
00:22:58
Speaker 3: You what about Zion you don't fool with him I like.
00:23:02
Speaker 4: Zion but it's it just feels Duke feels anti-black that's all that's all I can say really that rooting for Duke is anti not now actually now it's much better yeah but when I was growing up then anti-black akin to the Celtics it was the Celtics it's like I felt like.
00:23:20
Speaker 3: Literally, I'm rooting for the Klan. Like, what are we doing? You got the dream winning.
00:23:25
Speaker 4: So, what I will say is... Will it go the full seven?
00:23:29
Speaker 3: I think it's going seven.
00:23:30
Speaker 4: It's going seven. Like, these are two very evenly matching. You got a taste of that. Like, your team disappointed all of Black America.
00:23:38
Speaker 3: Oh, she's talking about UCLA.
00:23:40
Speaker 4: I'm talking about UCLA.
00:23:40
Speaker 3: I'm like, my team?
00:23:41
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:23:42
Speaker 3: I get it.
00:23:43
Speaker 4: Yes, you did. You're a race traitor, Carrie. You're a race traitor.
00:23:46
Speaker 3: Because, what are you talking about? Everybody on that team was biracial.
00:23:50
Speaker 4: You're a race traitor. You disappointed. You let down Black America.
00:23:54
Speaker 3: Everyone on that team was biracial. Again.
00:23:57
Speaker 4: It didn't matter. It didn't matter. Or foreign. We were behind South Carolina. And look what y'all did. Y'all don't care about Black lives.
00:24:05
Speaker 3: You're right. Y'all don't. Yeah.
00:24:07
Speaker 4: UCLA don't care about Black lives.
00:24:08
Speaker 3: I think you're blaming my coach because she's white.
00:24:12
Speaker 4: I'm not. Actually, you know I love Courtney.
00:24:14
Speaker 3: I know. I am.
00:24:15
Speaker 4: Joking people. I can't wait till this is a headline on Breitbart or somewhere else. Jemele Hill saying that Duke is anti-Black. So is UCLA.
00:24:24
Speaker 3: So is UCLA.
00:24:24
Speaker 1: No.
00:24:24
Speaker 4: No, I get what you mean.
00:24:26
Speaker 3: Well, that was because of what happened the day before or two days before with your boy, Geno. Right? That's right. I think that had a lot to do with why people were rooting for Dawn because it felt like she was being picked on for no reason when she was trying to be classy and Gina was a sore loser. Right. He has since apologized. And Don has asked us to move on. But you have told her.
00:24:52
Speaker 4: But you. You told her. You was like, you ain't moving on.
00:24:54
Speaker 3: You told her that too. You said, I'm not moving on. I was like, I don't know. We may not have moved on. Yeah.
00:24:58
Speaker 4: We got to have a meeting. The black folks, we got to have a meeting to decide.
00:25:01
Speaker 1: If we're going to move on.
00:25:02
Speaker 4: It's on the agenda.
00:25:03
Speaker 3: So when it's all said and done, before we get to this Marshawn Lynch interview, you are rooting for Atlanta.
00:25:10
Speaker 4: I don't know if rooting is the right word. But you just think they're going to win.
00:25:15
Speaker 3: Uh.
00:25:15
Speaker 4: Man, this series is honestly too close to call.
00:25:17
Speaker 3: I can't call it.
00:25:18
Speaker 4: I can't call it. It is very too... You know what? The Black people ain't stoning me. I got to be out in the city. Well, you know what I.
00:25:27
Speaker 3: I got to go to Black places. I think we're going to see... The Black people are not... I think we're going to see... Angel Reese got it. She got it. We're going to see a different Angel. Even though she's been all business in the playoffs, I think she's just going to step it up another level. And I think it's going to be.
00:25:38
Speaker 4: She's a high motor, high energy player.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:25:40
Speaker 3: And... But Gabby's going to match it.
00:25:42
Speaker 4: That's the thing. Gabby is going to match it.
00:25:43
Speaker 3: She's just the X Factor for me when it comes to this team. Yes, Tiff Hayes is also instant offense. And Veronica Burton, just incredible. But Gabby almost beat us in the Olympics. Remember, we sat there and watched.
00:26:00
Speaker 4: Single-handedly. I was like, yo. I got something for y'all.
00:26:04
Speaker 3: I've been scared ever since. So I never knew.
00:26:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get you. But Buffy says Gino is all in on Golden State. You know what?
00:26:13
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying?
00:26:19
Speaker 4: I don't want to pick against the civil rights movement. That's all I know. It's like I'm not doing it. They're not coming after me.
00:26:25
Speaker 3: So you're saying they're going to win definitively.
00:26:27
Speaker 4: I'm going to say it. Atlanta got it.
00:26:29
Speaker 1: All right.
00:26:29
Speaker 4: I ain't going against the ATL.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: I'm not going against nobody. I'm not even calling it because I'm all like, I don't. One, I'd rather be like, oh, I really know what's going on. I'll make a decision after game one.
00:26:39
Speaker 4: Okay. After game one.
00:26:40
Speaker 3: What we didn't discuss as we're wrapping this up is that I'm really disappointed that Atlanta doesn't have a place or a bigger venue. Let's talk about it. I want to say this. Right now, from my understanding, Atlanta doesn't have a bigger venue because they have no place to play.
00:26:56
Speaker 4: Because their current facility, only 3,500 is the capacity.
00:27:00
Speaker 3: And so they can't use State Farm Arena because apparently there's a concert and two NBA games. The Hawks also play there. In my mind, I would think as soon as they made it to the playoffs, they would have been looking. I hope the NBA is helping them in attempting to find a different location because I'm sure they've been in this place before. We've asked our producer to reach out to the NBA, so we'll wait for their response. We don't know if that's the case, but I assume that they are doing it. But this leads me to a bigger discussion that can no longer be avoided. We're going to have to start talking about women getting their own arenas.
00:27:31
Speaker 4: Exactly.
00:27:32
Speaker 3: They already are getting their own practice facilities. Now it's time for their own arenas, especially in these types of situations. Everybody then uses this as an example of what their 15 teams in the league, all 15 teams in the league need to know I may be in the finals. So where will my girls go? Where would these ladies rather go if, in fact, it rolls into preseason of NBA?
00:27:56
Speaker 1: Is it?
00:27:58
Speaker 4: And unfortunately for a lot of women that are playing, this is something that they have sadly probably been accustomed to throughout their careers.
00:28:06
Speaker 3: Yeah. We remember. Yes.
00:28:08
Speaker 4: I remember when I played sports, we often had to accommodate the male practice times. I mean, it's just like that's kind of what it is.
00:28:15
Speaker 3: I remember when we were in L.A. and the Sparks were playing in a gymnasium and it was like playoffs. What?
00:28:20
Speaker 1: What?
00:28:20
Speaker 3: Yep. What are you talking?
00:28:21
Speaker 2: Or not?
00:28:22
Speaker 3: Look, we can use the biggest example of them all. New York Liberty. They were all the way out in Westchester playing some play. They got kicked. They didn't necessarily get kicked out, but they were removed from MSG. They weren't playing there anymore. And they had other like that's where the practice facility was. That's where the games were. And they said, move them back, move them back. And look what happened. But they you know, if you build it, they will come. That's the way I believe this will happen. If you build it and this is to all the owners. to the NBA, to the WNBA, they will come. It's time to start having that conversation in a realistic way.
00:28:54
Speaker 4: And as it was, people were on the hawk's ass because they put out a graphic. I saw that.
00:29:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:02
Speaker 4: Listen, respectfully, but also disrespectfully.
00:29:05
Speaker 3: Like my driving?
00:29:07
Speaker 4: Your driving is very disrespectful. But You know, with these NBA games, I feel like there's a compromise that's in there for State Farm. You know, and I know the Atlanta owners, like, they're not trying to miss any money. Like, $ 3, 500 is not going to do it.
00:29:21
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:22
Speaker 4: So I saw a reporter suggest this. I think it was Ann Killian, who is a reporter I've known for a while, who said, like, why not do– try to do, like, a doubleheader that day or whatever. Like, figure out a way because the 80, you know, Atlanta's behind this team. Like they easily, if there was a 17,000 square foot or 17,000 seat arena available right now, it would sell out in a heartbeat because of how much they love this team and how they're representing the city. And I know it, to me, it just kind of gets to the general, um, feeling about the WNBA is that it's always been an afterthought.
00:30:04
Speaker 3: Well, by the time we do Wednesday's podcast, I would assume they would find a place and we'll be able to report back.
00:30:12
Speaker 4: Because I'm wondering if it's having some, you know, some effect on ticket sales, because are you going to buy tickets and you don't know what it is?
00:30:19
Speaker 3: I think people still buy tickets. Okay. I just, I, especially this is the first time they've been to the final since 2013. They have won zero finals games. Um, Shout out to Angel McCaffrey. I was like, shout out to Angel, man. The angels of doing it for him.
00:30:33
Speaker 4: Who averaged 30 in that finals, by the way.
00:30:35
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I definitely believe this is one for the city.
00:30:39
Speaker 4: Well, they need to figure it out.
00:30:40
Speaker 3: You know who figured it out? Our boomer, Sean. All right.
00:30:43
Speaker 4: Come on, transition us, queen.
00:30:45
Speaker 3: Go on and let's talk about this. Marshawn Lynch, he has a new graphic novel out called Beast Mode 510. He explains that to us.
00:30:55
Speaker 4: So much more.
00:30:56
Speaker 3: So much more. So much more. And only the way that Marshawn could. I hope you enjoy this interview, y'all.
00:31:02
Speaker 4: Sharkoochie. First of all, what you eat, though, because you make it look delicious, whatever it is.
00:31:12
Speaker 3: He's hungry.
00:31:13
Speaker 1: Crystal Carter, Sharkoochie. Uh-huh.
00:31:17
Speaker 3: What are the ingredients for sad coochie?
00:31:20
Speaker 1: Not sad coochie, shark coochie.
00:31:21
Speaker 3: I said sad coochie, like what kind of shark coochie?
00:31:24
Speaker 1: Not sad coochie. Sad coochie.
00:31:28
Speaker 4: You said shark coochie.
00:31:30
Speaker 1: It's shark coochie.
00:31:32
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:31:33
Speaker 3: Tell me what's in shark coochie.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: Honey, hard-ass bread, and it's some jelly and some pepper jack cheese.
00:31:44
Speaker 3: Sounds like I mean, I don't know.
00:31:47
Speaker 2: What charcuterie would constitute. It would constitute, what is this called? Charcuterie.
00:31:59
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm dead. Oh, it's charcuterie, but you said it was charcuterie.
00:32:05
Speaker 2: No, somebody told me that.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: I didn't make that up.
00:32:10
Speaker 4: I love it.
00:32:11
Speaker 3: You should say you made it up. That's hilarious.
00:32:13
Speaker 4: You need to take credit for that.
00:32:14
Speaker 1: You should say you made it up.
00:32:16
Speaker 4: You should.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
00:32:18
Speaker 4: You know, we got all these Marshawn Lynch-isms. I mean, why not add Sharkoochie to it? Sharkoochie is the best.
00:32:24
Speaker 1: That's best.
00:32:25
Speaker 4: I'd rather say Sharkoochie than charcuterie.
00:32:27
Speaker 3: I'd rather say Sharkoochie than charcuterie.
00:32:30
Speaker 1: Y'all terrible. Let me see.
00:32:34
Speaker 4: Oh, but now we terrible.
00:32:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. Y'all over there talking about something. I don't... You know what? That's that speed of weed shit.
00:32:46
Speaker 3: That's funny.
00:32:47
Speaker 4: That is hilarious.
00:32:48
Speaker 3: All right.
00:32:49
Speaker 1: I ain't nothing all day, so I'm.
00:32:50
Speaker 3: It's okay.
00:32:51
Speaker 4: I understand.
00:32:52
Speaker 3: I'm starving, too. Marshawn, the last time I saw you as we get started was at Super Bowl, and you were in the suite, the Kendrick Lamar suite, when Kendrick Lamar performed. That's the last time I saw you. You came in there. Do you know April? You know April McDonald? Do you remember her?
00:33:07
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
00:33:09
Speaker 3: That's our girl. That's the last time I saw you.
00:33:11
Speaker 1: Is that right? We was in New Orleans.
00:33:16
Speaker 3: That's right.
00:33:16
Speaker 4: We were.
00:33:17
Speaker 3: I didn't know where it was. I didn't know where it was. That's a good one.
00:33:19
Speaker 1: New Orleans.
00:33:20
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Do you like New York when you're there? Because I'm from California, but you're from the Bay. I'm from LA. So that's blood versus crip sometimes. Like we're just two different people. It really is. And so do you love.
00:33:35
Speaker 2: Y'all started recording already?
00:33:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:39
Speaker 3: We're talking about Sharkoochie and Blood vs. Crips.
00:33:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. This motherfucker just took a turn for the better. What we doing? What we doing? What we doing? I want to.
00:33:49
Speaker 3: Know how you... Do you like New York when you there? I want to know your energy.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I fuck with New York for sure. But you got to remember, I was in Buffalo a long time ago. And when we got days off, we would come around and, you know what I mean? We would come get down out here. So, you know what I mean? I got love from New York straight up. They take care of me out here too.
00:34:15
Speaker 4: Well, since we're on the subject of talking about hometowns, you know, right now, the Golden State Valkyries, they're on the brink In fact, by the time this interview may air, they may be in the WNBA finals. I know you've spent some time with the Valkyries. You've gone to the games. Talk your shit, Marshawn. What do you think about the Valkyries, their run, their success, everything that they're doing?
00:34:39
Speaker 2: Realistically, it's good for the Bay. I feel a certain type of way about.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: Bay Area. I can't even say Bay Area sports. Let me stop lying.
00:34:51
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Oakland sports because All our teams have slid on us, so, you know what I mean? But to be able to see them, you know what I mean, doing their things, being an expensive team, coming out, doing, you know, doing their shit, like, it gave the city, like, I don't even want to say the city, it gave the Bay, it gave the Bay another opportunity to cheer for, you know, a sports team. But what they got going on over there is actually pretty solid, though, like, from an organizational standpoint. Like, they really, I think they did it the right way.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: I think they're the blueprint, honestly. This is their second year in the league. It looks like they're about to be in the finals. The valuation for that team is more than any other WNBA team in existence. And their fan base shows up like they're sold out. And then this group of players that they have are hungry. They play well together. Yeah. I just, I don't know who put it all together. I know you talked about the organization, but I said this on the show the other day. They are the blueprint. Like, if you look at it, for a minute it was the Liberty, and we still love that experience. That's a great fan experience. I haven't been to Valhalla. Have you been to any games? Yes, you've been to games there. Tell me what it feels like while you're there.
00:36:06
Speaker 2: It's... I mean, you know, see, the thing is, I kind of, you know, I might be biased just because, you feel me, though.
00:36:15
Speaker 1: I'm a town nigga.
00:36:15
Speaker 2: But the Bay, like, with any Bay Area team, the fans always doing ape shit. So, you know what I mean? Especially for them to be, you know what I mean, in the playoffs right now. And I've been to, what, I think I went to game, I'm not sure, game two against Dallas?
00:36:35
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: And the experience in the stadium was stupid because, I mean, you got too short performing at halftime.
00:36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:36:45
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, And then it's like, you feel me? You really get the beta come out now. Although you got this, you got like the squares of the bay that come in and support it. But you know what I mean? With social media, they done learned how to go dumb. You feel me though? The whole shit like you got real, you got real tech nerds in there.
00:37:05
Speaker 1: You feel me though? Popping that callus in like, you feel me?
00:37:08
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, to see that is, is, I mean, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a good feeling and damn, you know, I was able to take my, uh, my guy babies in there.
00:37:17
Speaker 1: I mean, they big and they big in the sport.
00:37:20
Speaker 2: So to see them like running around in there from a from a I mean, a different perspective of just, you know, me kicking back and actually seeing them, you know, get down. And then you feel me? I was I was I was tucked and I was under. So, I mean, when when a lot of people really, you know, noticing me or whatever. So it wasn't more so that, you know, they was focused on individuals coming up and speaking to me, but them actually being able to, you know, I mean, walk around the stadium and, you know, get, you know, the T-shirts and, you know, going to the little clubs that they got, go grab some food and everything. So, I mean, you know, for me, it was a great experience to see them actually enjoying it. But then, I mean, just the energy that, you know, I mean, that the Bay brain, no matter where they at and how they getting down, Win or lose, you know, we going to rock.
00:38:11
Speaker 1: So that's always a blessing.
00:38:15
Speaker 4: You know, I do feel you mentioned something a moment ago. I do feel terrible for Oakland fans because, as you mentioned, the teams that you guys have loved for a long time, the teams that you guys built in the brands, you know, you got the Raiders. They go to Las Vegas. We know what's about to happen with the A's. I think they're going to Vegas, too. I mean, as somebody who grew up in Oakland and you've seen this happen, how heartbreaking is it for you that Oakland has become that city that these teams have abandoned?
00:38:44
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to be honest with you, it's like, it's a fucked up feeling. But the thing is, what I don't think they understand is like, it wasn't the teams that gave.
00:38:59
Speaker 1: The city... they kind of like swag. It was the city that gave them teams that shit.
00:39:05
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? That shit hit different when you think about it like that, though.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:39:13
Speaker 2: Most cities get their swag from their team because they good or whatever. It was vice versa when you think about Oakland teams. You know what I mean? All runs and shit. Even with baseball, like, you got Ricky Henderson running around in bases, and that's a real town nigga, though, you feel me, so that shit, it different, and then just hard-nosed Oakland Raiders football, we gonna bust your ass in the mouth, that's real town shit, though, you feel me, like, that's how it going, then, you feel me, though, when you think about the Warriors, like, you know, what Draymond really represented, like, That's my son. So, you feel me? He ain't got no choice but to be like, it's kind of like that. And the thing is, you know, you get that from the city rather than the team giving, you know, the city something to be proud of. Like, motherfuckers was proud to play for the Raiders because that motherfucker was from the town. Like, you take somebody like Charles Woodson, you feel me, though, who not from Oakland, but if you ask anybody, you feel me, though, outside of that they don't think that Charles Woodson was really a town nigga though like he ain't even from Oakland but he represented it so well and so tough like that's the type of shit like you feel me when you think about it from from Oakland and how that how that give you and anybody that has came to Oakland they'll tell you that like it's so like I don't know it's like to the point where, like, no matter where you from, it hug you and it give you a sense of, like, I belong here.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No matter where you from. So, you know what I mean?
00:40:49
Speaker 2: To have all of the teams, you know, taken away, you really taking away, like, some culture.
00:40:56
Speaker 1: From the.
00:40:58
Speaker 2: Actual team. And you leave that shit in a place where And for me, though, like, it really started. Because, I mean, you know, the Raiders, you know, the Raiders done done this before. Like, you know, they went down to L.A.
00:41:09
Speaker 1: And shit. And then they had to come right back home, though, you get it?
00:41:15
Speaker 2: And then, I mean, you know, it's a thing with the city that, you know, we probably elect, you know, slide under the radar. But, I mean, they should have built them stadiums to keep them motherfuckers going.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: They should have for sure did that, like. You know what I mean? But, you know, that's for another time. That's some bullshit.
00:41:36
Speaker 3: You talked about how the Raiders came to L.A. and then came back. I went to UCLA, and a lot of my friends are on town business. And so a lot of my friends came from Oakland to go to school at UCLA's. I always would say, and they would come down here and they complain about LA so bad. They'd be like, oh, y'all water. Y'all stole our water. That'd be the main thing they talk about. We stealing y'all water. And I'm like, all right, bet. We stole y'all water. Anything else? Cause y'all here. So I'm really curious.
00:42:06
Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all.
00:42:07
Speaker 3: Talking all this trash, but y'all still here in LA. So I'm curious about what's, what is the beef in your mind between LA? Well, NorCal versus SoCal, LA versus Oakland. It's not really LA versus Oakland. It's Northern California versus Southern California. For real.
00:42:23
Speaker 2: And the crazy part about, the crazy part about it in my mind, you feel me though? It's like, compared to you I was vice versa where we had everybody and because I was at Cal but then we had all of the SoCal niggas come up to come up to to Berkey at school.
00:42:44
Speaker 1: And they had the same type of, you know, type of vibe.
00:42:48
Speaker 2: And realistically, I think it's just something that has been implanted in, you know what I mean? Because we're a younger generation, you know what I'm talking about? So I think it's just something that's been implanted in us, like, you feel me, though? And I think it get into, like, you know, that, that, that black culture type shit where.
00:43:06
Speaker 1: Oh, they not from here. So fuck them niggas.
00:43:09
Speaker 2: But when, when, when, like you got, you got, we got, we had some, we had some hitters from, from Southern California on my college team.
00:43:17
Speaker 1: And it was always the same.
00:43:20
Speaker 2: And then it was a situation where you feel me though, me and DJ, you know, buzz jokes about this shit all the time. Uh, the Sean Jackson, where when he first got there and the first time he heard me, popping it, I'm on some shit like, yeah, bro, you feel me? I don't want to holler that cuz, bro, you know, Blood was over there tripping, though, but we gonna, you know.
00:43:39
Speaker 1: And he like, hold on, did he just say, really, cuz?
00:43:42
Speaker 3: And I'm like, at the same time, in the same sentence?
00:43:46
Speaker 2: So somebody had to tell him, like, nah, you know, they from Oakland, you feel me, though? They don't do no crips and no Bloods type situation. And, you know, it wasn't more so about, you know, about gangs and all that shit and then how you how you grow up and it's not so much, you know, affiliated with gangs, but you know, these, my people, this is what I represent.
00:44:05
Speaker 1: These is who, you know, I'm going to ride for. I'm going, you know, I'm talking about it.
00:44:10
Speaker 2: And in reality is, is more so the same thing, but you know, the culture down there just was a little bit more, uh, I'll say like put together when it comes to how organized that, you know, it was, but, uh, You know, we was athletes. So, I mean, you know, I don't want to get that, you know, misconstrued, but, you know what I mean?
00:44:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:44:29
Speaker 1: We understood.
00:44:29
Speaker 3: We understood.
00:44:31
Speaker 2: And, I mean, you know, when you popping it, you know, you want your spot to be, I want my spot to be the toughest or we got.
00:44:38
Speaker 1: The best this or the best that.
00:44:41
Speaker 2: And in reality, like, you feel me, it's more so like, shit, I was from Oakland, D-Jack was from, from L.A., then we had some other guys, you feel me, though, that felt the same way, whether they was from Fresno or, you feel me, they go up a little north to Sac.
00:44:57
Speaker 1: But.
00:45:00
Speaker 2: In all of them pockets, you got four different, you feel me, those cities who think that they the one, and they all popping it the same way. So when you say like a beef, I don't even really look at it as no beef. It was more so like everybody just want to put on for their city in order to do that. You got to pop your shit the most. And then what they found out was town niggas really got that mouthpiece. So when it came to that, we.
00:45:24
Speaker 1: Was a little bit different.
00:45:25
Speaker 3: Y'all do.
00:45:26
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:45:26
Speaker 3: We was a little bit different when it come time. True.
00:45:31
Speaker 1: It can't even go different than go ahead and spit that ism.
00:45:35
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
00:45:36
Speaker 4: Spitting that ism.
00:45:37
Speaker 3: I was like, if I hear one more person tell me they on-town business, I'm like, I get it.
00:45:41
Speaker 1: I hear you.
00:45:41
Speaker 4: I feel it. You know, we're going to ask you about your graphic novel in a moment, Beast 510, which I assume was a shout-out. Obviously, clearly a shout-out to Oakland. Before we get there, Marshawn, one thing about you, everybody know you a real one. You keep it real. Yeah, that's right. And show the cover.
00:45:59
Speaker 3: You're a real one.
00:46:00
Speaker 4: So because you're a real one, I saw a podcast interview you did recently when you were talking about, yeah, that's right. Flash it again. I saw a podcast interview you did recently where you were talking about dating and about how like you're, you know, what you're looking for now in a woman. Yeah, you can start giggling, but I saw it.
00:46:18
Speaker 3: He's like, I got to boo now. Why are you bringing that up? What you were looking.
00:46:21
Speaker 4: For as a youngster has changed, you know, as you've grown older.
00:46:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:46:26
Speaker 4: But wait, my friend here, my wonderful, beautiful co-host, Carrie, two single champions.
00:46:33
Speaker 3: Two single. She's two single. What that mean?
00:46:36
Speaker 4: I mean, my husband said she was two single.
00:46:38
Speaker 3: Her husband said I was two single. He don't know nothing about me. That translates.
00:46:43
Speaker 1: Is that single or is that single single?
00:46:47
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's clearly a difference, right?
00:46:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:46:51
Speaker 4: So you single single.
00:46:52
Speaker 3: Well, he knows the definition. What is single versus single single?
00:46:55
Speaker 1: I don't, man. Hey, look, the youngsters put me on. I heard them.
00:46:59
Speaker 2: They was chopping it up and they was talking about single and single single. Now, I don't know how explicit I could be, but y'all could do y'all thing when y'all do it. But I think single is just like I be fucking. You know what I mean? The single single is you got Desert Storm down there. So if you Desert Storm, then baby, you got to figure something out.
00:47:18
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because that ain't the way to go.
00:47:22
Speaker 4: I'm there.
00:47:23
Speaker 2: Hey, man, this life is too short to be Desert Storm. You got to put on something going on.
00:47:28
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:47:29
Speaker 4: Well, I was going to ask you to give my girl some dating advice.
00:47:33
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you. I will say, I don't believe I'm single single. She's like, it ain't Desert Storm over here. I don't believe I'm single.
00:47:41
Speaker 1: As long as you ain't Desert Storm, we good. Life too short can be Desert Storm, baby.
00:47:45
Speaker 3: Life is too short. I just read about a woman who thought she was about to die and she slept with 200 men before she died. So have at it.
00:47:51
Speaker 1: All right, now baby tripping.
00:47:54
Speaker 3: So have at it. So Jamel said, you got to give me some advice. She, we listened to your advice. You said in short in that interview, not too short, but in short in that interview, you said, um, When you were younger, you liked a certain type of woman, and now you need a different woman. You need somebody who can challenge you, not somebody who's trying to beef with you, but someone who can make you be better at the enterprise that you are creating, which is why we see you everywhere. We see you with your television shows.
00:48:33
Speaker 4: We see you in movies.
00:48:39
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to tell the people. You're supposed to be slick. I got you.
00:48:43
Speaker 1: I got you.
00:48:45
Speaker 3: We see you moving in all of these spaces. And do you, as you level up and as you are more exposed to different things that you want to partake, you find yourself acquiring different company and wanting different company. What does that look like for you when you're dating?
00:49:00
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the thing is, like, I see I'm childish, too. And I'm immature. And I'm everything that women like. What I realized then. And growing up, for whatever reason, women just like that shit.
00:49:15
Speaker 1: You feel me, though? And then, you know what I mean?
00:49:17
Speaker 2: I was just telling Chris was like, you feel me, like, I got a personality, so me just saying hi sometimes can come off as, like, I'm flirting or, you feel me, though, I'm trying to, you know what I mean, kick it to you. But with that being said, like, in my time of growth, like, Like you said, I used to like what I used to like. And the thing was, I didn't know because my mind was so, I ain't going to say it was tainted, but the way that I thought, like, I thought you was supposed to get it out of a woman.
00:49:53
Speaker 1: You feel me though?
00:49:54
Speaker 2: A or B, like everything was supposed to be all on her.
00:49:57
Speaker 1: Like I need, I need, I need an issue.
00:50:01
Speaker 2: And then what it, what it, what it grew into was like, I'm like, well, shit, I don't, So then it just got to the point where it's like, well, hold on. They talk about what you bring to the table and all of that. It was like, nah, how you going to make me feel when I do got the world on my shoulders and I'm dealing with all of these type of situations? Because I'm not a real big communicator like that. So can you see in me? to really understand like what I'm going through. Cause I'm not going to come to you like, damn baby, I got the world up the weight of my, on my shoulders. I got this, I got that. Cause I feel like that's venting. I feel like that's bitch shit. Like, I don't feel like as me personally, me, myself as a man, like I will go and do that. But if you can see that in me, like, damn, okay, something going on. And you come put your hands in my head, rub my dress for a minute. That shit, that shit will work wonders. You feel me? So it's more so like, you feel me, though? When you talk about getting in tune, it's a whole different type of situation, man, being able to see that. And then just by, you feel me, by nature, like I got little brothers and sisters, like being a provider and a protector, it's like they don't have to say shit. I can see it within them. And then, you feel me, though, with my woman, motherfucking be able to see that. And it ain't going to be like I'm going to have to come and talk to you about a gang of shit. I'm going to be able to see that. And then, all right, without even talking about it, I'm going to go try and fix whatever problems it is, though. So, I mean, you know, that's my growth in that. But I take that same approach within my work, though. So, you know what I mean? It started to become a little thing for me.
00:51:50
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good.
00:51:53
Speaker 4: See, Carrie, you got to rub somebody's dreads.
00:51:56
Speaker 3: He gave me all the advice I needed.
00:51:58
Speaker 4: He gave you some gems. He gave me some gems. He's like, he.
00:52:01
Speaker 3: Ain't going to come and talk to you like it's a diary, but you don't have to look inside and see what it is. And then the physical communication will let him know that I ride with him and it's all good.
00:52:14
Speaker 1: That come a part of knowing your person too, though.
00:52:19
Speaker 3: Well, how do you do that? If you're not a big communicator.
00:52:23
Speaker 2: That's where the time come in at. That's where the time come in. You spend some time with somebody and you can't figure it out doing shit. Then you in trouble. That probably ain't true, you feel me? But you know your person, I'm pretty sure. Jamil, you look over at your, you feel me? And y'all motherfuckers ain't got to say nothing and y'all right on point.
00:52:50
Speaker 4: He does know me.
00:52:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the time, the time, you feel me though? I mean, that come now, I'm not saying I just don't sit there and I'm just a mute.
00:53:00
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I do want to ask you about your numerous experiences. business ventures. And, you know, as Carrie mentioned, you got movies, you got cigars, you have this graphic novel that's coming out. What?
00:53:24
Speaker 3: When does a graphic novel come out?
00:53:25
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:53:25
Speaker 4: When does that come out?
00:53:26
Speaker 3: No, no.
00:53:26
Speaker 1: It came out on the 6th.
00:53:28
Speaker 3: It's on the 6th.
00:53:29
Speaker 4: October 6th. October 6th, y'all.
00:53:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, it came out on the 6th.
00:53:33
Speaker 4: But you have all these things going. And the one thing about you, and I know people have given you a lot of praise, deservedly so, is that you have never changed. You are the same in every room, that you go in. So where did that, I know this is going to sound a little bit like a weird question, but where did you get such courageousness to be yourself in all environments?
00:53:55
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it, I think it started at home.
00:53:59
Speaker 2: I mean, I think my mama told me like, you send me everybody else in the world is taken. So, you know what I mean? It's okay to be yourself because you can't beat him. And I think that got me out of the mindset of competing and, with other individuals and, you know, focusing on myself.
00:54:16
Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean? Growing up, it was hard. You feel me?
00:54:19
Speaker 2: Cause it's like, you know, you might see somebody come to school. They got all the J's and hell of shit. It's like, damn, I want them Jordans and hell of shit, but that ain't, that ain't gonna, that ain't gonna cut it for me. But the thing was, no matter how much I thought about it, if I was in that position, um, My position didn't change. I still had to come to school with these Payless shoe store shoes on. And the thing is, I had to make it work with what I had. And I made shit work with what I had. So I look in the mirror and I'm comfortable with the individual that I see. Like, I enjoy that nigga. Like, I really, really enjoy it. Like, I like that nigga. Like, I see the world of him and I appreciate him. And what that started to do is that started to play, you feel me, that you got to be delusional a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
00:55:12
Speaker 3: A lot bit. Not even a little.
00:55:14
Speaker 1: A lot.
00:55:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:55:15
Speaker 1: Well, a lot a bit.
00:55:16
Speaker 2: And in believing that, like, you know what I mean? The thing is, I know that you're going to have some ups. You're going to have some downs. You're going to have some good days. You're going to have some bad days. And no matter what, like, giving up is not an option.
00:55:33
Speaker 1: You feel me, though? Curring up.
00:55:35
Speaker 2: That's not an option. So pushing through and continuing to fight. I like to fight.
00:55:42
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
00:55:42
Speaker 2: We don't fight. We don't fight to come out on the other side. You feel me? And I mean, I take them all the same way. Like, You feel me, though? The bad days, all right, cool. How are we going to make this shit better? The good days, okay, how are we going to make this shit better? The great days, okay, how do we go and make these days better? Like, you feel me? And then it just gets to a point where it's like every time that I wake up and I get an opportunity to go and, you know, take on the world or, you know what I mean.
00:56:14
Speaker 1: Take on that day, it's like.
00:56:16
Speaker 2: I'm blessed to have that opportunity because I know a lot of individuals who just wish that they could. And I mean, you know, I'm not sure if you've seen it, but we talked about it.
00:56:25
Speaker 1: On Andre Ward.
00:56:29
Speaker 2: Is that, you know, I mean, I just recently went to go see Chris Johnson and it's like, you know, he just say he just want the opportunity to, you know, move his hand.
00:56:39
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:56:39
Speaker 2: Don't give his, give his family a hug again. And it's like, if I wake up and I get that opportunity to do that, like, nigga, It could be way worse for me.
00:56:49
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:56:49
Speaker 2: And then, you know, I got some other shit going for me. Like, you feel me? I be busting hella jokes, hella fun, having hella fun and shit. You know what I'm talking about? Handsome than a motherfucker. Be chilling.
00:56:59
Speaker 1: I ain't tripping off of shit. You know what I'm talking about? My mama good. You feel me, though? Grandma good. You feel me, though?
00:57:06
Speaker 2: The loved ones is solid. It's like, nigga, you got something to smile for. Like, It's okay, bro. It's okay. Some bad days got to happen, but take them the same way you take the good days. Keep on rolling and look for a way to make them opportunities a little bit better.
00:57:22
Speaker 4: I love that.
00:57:23
Speaker 3: He gave us so much.
00:57:24
Speaker 4: You gave, you gave a sermon right there. Um, I want to go back to that. You said you went to see Chris Johnson. What was that experience like?
00:57:31
Speaker 2: I mean, realistically, because it's like, you know, you play, you play this, uh, you play this game in your mind before you actually, you know, go in there to see him. It's like, because you know, like what the situation is, but then it's like, well, do, do I be, do I be me?
00:57:53
Speaker 1: Do I be, you know, sympathetic? Do I, you know, am I down? Am I sad?
00:57:59
Speaker 2: Do I, and it's like, you, you just don't know until you walk in there. And then it's like, it's like, okay, You hear, bro, like you hear. And then, you know, the way that he communicates is through the eye situation. And it's like, you know, he's still him.
00:58:26
Speaker 1: Which brings it out of you.
00:58:29
Speaker 2: And being able to do that, I mean, and have that interaction, you know, with him, it's like, yeah.
00:58:35
Speaker 1: Nigga, you still in there, bro. Like, what's happening? You feel me?
00:58:39
Speaker 2: So it gives you a sense of, like, of hope. You know what I'm talking about? But it also put on your mind, like, you know what I mean? Because everybody had that situation, like, you know, that couldn't be me. But I'm looking at somebody who did it at the highest level, And I see that as him. And I know that he probably had a mindset or a thought process like that before, which is another reason why I try and live and take every opportunity and and maximize it to the to the best of my ability every chance that i get as well but yeah i mean it was it was it was a hard situation to go into when i ain't gonna hold you like lindale white uh Lavelle Hawkins and Quentin and even Pac-Man. You know, being able to holler at them through the situation because, you know what I mean, that was my pipeline to meeting him.
00:59:38
Speaker 1: So, You know what I mean?
00:59:41
Speaker 2: Just having the conversations with him and everybody kind of have the same kind of feeling like, you know, I ain't know how to, I ain't know how I was going to rock. And then as soon as I get in there and we back to busting jokes, just like it was.
00:59:52
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, all right, nigga.
00:59:54
Speaker 2: I mean, because nigga, you don't, you don't want to fuck up that opportunity.
00:59:57
Speaker 1: And it's like, once you know, you are, yeah, I did that shit.
01:00:00
Speaker 3: Right.
01:00:01
Speaker 2: And then, you know, just being able to see bread, like, you know, look him in his eyes and know that he can, he can feel this. Like, that shit is special. And it puts you on another, in another mindset of living. And I'm appreciative of shit that before I would have, you know, might have took for granted.
01:00:22
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you how you felt when you left, because what you said is very honest. In any situation, it doesn't have to be Chris Johnson's situation, but when someone is dealing with, when they're on borrowed time and you know that they won't be around, there is this uncomfortable way of how we try to communicate with those people. I'm dealing with that with myself right now with one of my family members. And in my way, I'm like, well, how do I do it? What do I do? I think it's odd that the person who is actually dying and or sick has to make us feel better before we can relax, which is really a crazy dynamic. How would you describe your friendship with Chris before and now?
01:01:09
Speaker 2: Oh, man, the thing is, like, what I realized that at running back, like, it's a real small community of running backs, especially back in our day, because it was just like, you know, now you kind of got running back by committee. So, you know, it's more running backs that share time that actually get to do their thing. But back then, you know, you had to be a workhorse. And the thing was, I mean, I... The only way that I could describe it is like you had some running backs and then you had some niggas that played running backs.
01:01:45
Speaker 4: Wait, what's the difference? That was a nigga that.
01:01:48
Speaker 1: Played running backs. You know what I'm saying? It's just certain isms. You had a different type of lingo when it came to it.
01:01:55
Speaker 3: But you know what he's saying. She knows exactly what you're saying.
01:02:00
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear him explain it.
01:02:02
Speaker 2: And then this was, like, you see what I mean? Like, he was, like, one of them ones. So it's, like, every time we done got an opportunity to, like, put it together, it was, like, it wasn't like it was no football shit. Football was probably the least thing we talked about. You feel me? But it was more so, like, yeah, man, hold on.
01:02:21
Speaker 1: You feel me? We feel it.
01:02:22
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, we don't do like that. But, you know, our relationship really got, you know what I mean? Because I think it was.
01:02:33
Speaker 2: The first Pro Bowl that I got to go to, I think they played in the playoffs. It was either the playoffs or the last game of the season. And he was one of the running backs that was going to the Pro Bowl. And in that game, he ended up spraining his ankle.
01:02:53
Speaker 1: So you feel me?
01:02:54
Speaker 2: When he did that and he declined after playing it, then I was the next running back. So I got bumped up to go to the Pro Bowl. And I just remember Quentin hit me like, yeah, man, this nigga CJ wanted to holler at you. So I'm like, hey, bro, I appreciate you fucking with me. Like, man, you know, because you could have still went, but you wouldn't have been able to play. He like, man, once they told me that even if I don't play just because I was the running back that got picked to play in the Pro Bowl, that I'ma still get my check so it's all good I'm like well shit I appreciate it bro you feel me and then it's like that's when you like that's when you know like oh yeah I'm dealing with a nigga nigga so that shit was solid though man but you know what I mean just the.
01:03:35
Speaker 3: Two or one cause once again the question is when it's one when it's one versus two versus.
01:03:41
Speaker 1: Two like what's the you official official Okay, okay, all right.
01:03:45
Speaker 4: Just like you, single, single.
01:03:47
Speaker 3: I'm not single, single. Oh, you're not single, single, but single, single.
01:03:49
Speaker 4: It's desert.
01:03:49
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not the desert.
01:03:51
Speaker 1: She just brought you back to Desert Storm, baby.
01:03:52
Speaker 3: Hold on. She tried to put me in Desert Storm, and I'm like, well, hold on. Hold the phone.
01:03:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you feel me?
01:04:03
Speaker 4: No, we got you. Listen, we know you got to run, but before you get out of here, explain to the people, and hold it up again if need be. People will see it. Explain to us what Beast 510 is about.
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Speaker 2: Beast Mode 510? So, man, look, Beast Mode 510 is the... So, like I was telling them earlier, like, you know what I mean? This is more so like... You know what I mean? Because we doing some shit in there. You know what I mean? Tackling some problems. Got gentrification going on through Oakland. You feel me, though? Motherfucker come buying up, doing all kind of weird ass shit.
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Speaker 1: Got some of his tenants doing something strange for a little piece of change. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: All kind of little shit. And you feel me? I ain't really feeling that. So, I mean, you know, this was just the kickoff just to introduce the super niggas. See, right now, he's just a nigga. doing what niggas should do within our communities to take care of our shit.
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Speaker 1: You feel me?
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Speaker 2: But then I'm going to just say like this, I'm putting it out there in the atmosphere right now. But in that next, in that next book, then yeah, he going super nigga. And I think he going to.
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Speaker 1: Be, he going to be, he going to be taking on some, some problems.
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Speaker 3: He buying back the blocks?
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Speaker 1: Man, you feel me? Like Mike Epps, like Ward Dunn, you feel me, though?
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Speaker 2: And any other individual that I miss that go back to their neighborhoods and go buy property and putting their people in better positions.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, man, this is this is a you know, I mean, for me, it's a real good thing because, you know, I mean, when I was growing up, like I wasn't into reading. And, I mean, this is an opportunity for you to, you know what I mean, especially if you're not a reader, to pick up something fun, you know what I mean, to read. And it's going to give you a little bit of background education at the same time as well as some comedy.
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Speaker 1: And, you know, I got a co-star in this motherfucker, which is my mama. You feel me?
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Speaker 4: Oh, you know I love your mama.
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Speaker 1: She crazy as hell. And she crazy as hell in this book, too.
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Speaker 2: But, you know, she doing her thing in the book. But, I mean, you know, to me, it's one of those situations where it's like, if you not into reading books, This will give you an opportunity to pick something up and get your mind wrapped around it. Because, I mean, you know, the knowledge is so cliche, but it's the truth. Knowledge is the power, man. And I think, I mean, they say if you want to hide something from a nigga, put it in a book. And it's just one of them opportunities to open up your mind to something different.
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Speaker 1: To where we don't have niggas opening up books.
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Speaker 4: I'm all for that. And we've learned so much.
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Speaker 3: I love him so much.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 3: If you want to hide something.
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Speaker 4: Put it in a book. But in this book, you're going to learn something. You're going to learn something for sure. You're going to learn something. We have learned, don't be Desert Storm out here. We have learned, don't be Desert Storm out here, that there is a difference between a nigga, a nigga nigga, and a super nigga.
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Speaker 3: Is this a, what is this? You got a sword? What was that you just pulled out? Is that a sword?
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, you know what I mean? And then I have my little, you feel me?
01:07:12
Speaker 4: Okay, I see.
01:07:13
Speaker 3: I'm going back to Game of Thrones. What are we doing?
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Speaker 1: You feel me?
01:07:16
Speaker 2: Look, instead of knighting them how you do like this, when you do shoulder to shoulder, I'm niggering niggas. You feel me? And you got to go right to left.
01:07:29
Speaker 4: You got to go right to left.
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Speaker 1: You got to go right to left. You know what I'm saying?
01:07:34
Speaker 3: Why right to left as opposed to left to right?
01:07:37
Speaker 1: You said, why right to left?
01:07:39
Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
01:07:39
Speaker 1: Because fuck that. I'm making all rights. Okay. It's on site. You see what I mean?
01:07:46
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
01:07:47
Speaker 1: I'm making all rights.
01:07:49
Speaker 3: I'm making all rights.
01:07:50
Speaker 1: I'm making all rights. Even if it ain't right, I'm making all rights. I love you. I heard that. And even if it was wrong, I'm going to make it right. Fuck it.
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Speaker 3: I know that's right.
01:08:01
Speaker 1: Fuck it. We own one. We own one.
01:08:04
Speaker 4: Well, Marshawn, thank you. Cause you, man, you are one of the most incredible people I've ever met. Cause you are always you and your energy is good, man. I, I literally never run into you when you in a bad mood, man. I just, the positivity just, just oozes off of you. And so good luck with this graphic novel. We're going to be watching on the big screen. Cause I know you in the Madden movie. Everybody copping cigars.
01:08:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. You forgot about that?
01:08:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get so many checks right now, you done forgot where they all coming from.
01:08:32
Speaker 2: See, I ain't forgot the checks, but the work, yeah. We do the work and forget about it.
01:08:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that's right. Do the work and forget about it. All right, you take care, my friend.
01:08:41
Speaker 1: Do the work and forget about it. I appreciate you, everybody. Y'all have a blessed night.
01:08:45
Speaker 3: We appreciate you. You are a superstar. Thanks for coming on Flagrant and Funny.
01:08:49
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. And do not be Desert Storm, baby.
01:08:52
Speaker 3: I will not. I promise. I take this oath. Knight me right now.
01:08:56
Speaker 4: That's right.
01:08:57
Speaker 3: Right to left.
01:08:58
Speaker 4: Knight me right now. Go Desert Storm. Flagrant and Funny is an iHeart Women's Sports production.
01:09:05
Speaker 3: Producers are Michael Coscarelli and Buffy Gorilla. Our editor is Michael Coscarelli. Our executive producer is Jesse Katz. And this show is hosted by us, Jemele Hill and Gary Champion.
Speaker 1: The youngsters put me on. I heard them.
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Speaker 2: They was chopping it up and they was talking about single and single, single. Now, I don't know how explicit I could be, but y'all could do y'all thing when y'all do it.
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Speaker 1: But I think single is just like I be fucking.
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Speaker 2: The single single is, you got Desert Storm down there. So if you Desert Storm, then baby, you got to figure something out. You know what I'm saying? Because that ain't the way to go. This life is too short to be Desert Storm. You got to find something going.
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Speaker 3: On.
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Speaker 4: So first of all, you drive. Like, you have a death wish.
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Speaker 3: I drive a Porsche, and I should drive like I drive a Porsche.
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Speaker 4: I mean, but all of us ain't trying to die.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: I'm still here, luckily.
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Speaker 3: She drives a Maserati. She drives it two miles per hour. It's like sitting in the car with Auntie listening to Dateline. Literally listening to Dateline.
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Speaker 4: I do listen to Dateline in the car.
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Speaker 3: She listens to Dateline in the car. But do you ever take the Maserati out?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 3: No. Never. Never.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the most I've gone, I've gone 100 in it, but that's like the most. Yeah. Well, it goes to like 180, something insane.
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Speaker 3: She's very appropriate.
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Speaker 4: I just want to know why. It's fine if you have a Porsche.
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Speaker 3: I was asking Coscarelli about his new drive and now you want to make fun of me.
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Speaker 4: Because you drive like an insane person.
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Speaker 3: I drive defensively. No, no, no.
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Speaker 4: It's not just defensively. Like you're literally, I'm just like, are we running from the law?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: Have you, are you auditioning for Fast and Furious?
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Speaker 3: Also perhaps.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: She's an offensive and a defensive driver. Let me tell you something.
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Speaker 3: The people in LA, you never know what's going to happen and you have to be ready for anything. You have to be able to move quickly. You have to be agile. It's almost like being a quarterback. You have to be ready for anything.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what that was, but I just do know I just try to avoid getting in the car with you. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Well, when I was in the car with this one, Cosgrove, he doesn't want this. He's like, did I answer this? Can we just do the podcast?
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Speaker 4: But we don't give it to him anyway.
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Speaker 1: Can we do it?
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Speaker 3: First of all, I didn't know that Shark Coochie was a common saying.
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Speaker 4: As we transition, we have Marshawn Lynch coming up on Flagrant and Funny, and he introduced us to many terms. One of which was Shark Coochie.
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Speaker 3: But apparently everyone already knows this.
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Speaker 4: They knew about it. I didn't know anything about Shark Coochie.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so why are we so late? Because they're like, we've been saying that for years.
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Speaker 4: I didn't know that. So Shark Coochie, for those who are uninitiated, is.
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Speaker 3: Most people know now. Well... Yeah.
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Speaker 4: For the few that don't... It's charcuterie. It's charcuterie, but they call it Shark Coochie.
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Speaker 3: Coscarelli, did you know that? I hadn't heard that. Ever?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 3: I was dying when I said it. Okay.
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Speaker 4: Yes. Okay. So we were unaware of Sharkoochie.
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Speaker 3: Okay. So great. We're all in agreement.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So I.
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Speaker 4: But speaking of Coochie.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: What kind of transition is that?
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Speaker 4: Are you dating Coscarelli?
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Speaker 1: That's the transition?
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Speaker 4: No, that's not the transition. The transition is Carrie has a coochie plant at our house.
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: You have a coochie plant.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: Do you not have a coochie plant?
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Speaker 1: Am I lying?
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Speaker 3: I think Coscarelli likes me now. He just winked. He goes, tell me more.
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Speaker 4: This is weird. Do you not have a Gucci plan?
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Speaker 3: Should I talk to HR? This is weird.
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Speaker 4: Listen, I got the video of you and the Gucci plan.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so first of all, I have a good friend of mine who also likes to steal when we go places. So we went to this place. I love that you say also. Because I join her in taking sometimes cutlery.
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Speaker 4: Interesting.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes things that belong to a restaurant, I take them with me. As have you.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I take. You take glasses all the time.
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Speaker 3: I take glasses from bars.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about it.
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Speaker 1: I have a few.
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Speaker 3: Okay. So they had these really cute, like, vases that had the- Now you're trying to classy it up. Yeah, it's a vase.
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Speaker 4: It was coochie.
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Speaker 3: It was a vase that was similar to coochie. And so she took.
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Speaker 4: Them- Not similar. It is a coochie diagram. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, I confess. You know what?
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Speaker 4: I'm going to send a video. I have a Coochie plan. So that y'all will play it while we're talking.
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Speaker 3: And I love it. And it's a giver of life in more ways than one. The word Coochie is so weird.
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Speaker 4: It's so funny, though.
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Speaker 3: It's so weird.
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Speaker 4: It's so funny, though. You can spell it so many ways. I love how our friend Tony Baker, the comedian, spells it. K. K-E-W.
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Speaker 3: That's how I spelled it.
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Speaker 4: Yes. K-E-W.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: C-H-I-E.
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Speaker 3: Coochie.
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Speaker 1: Coochie.
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Speaker 3: Are we allowed to say that?
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Speaker 4: I don't know. This could all be bleeped. Kudos. But yes, Carrie has a coochie plant. So everybody knows.
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Speaker 3: And it's a giver of life and it's beautiful. And you'll see, it's just, and it's a small, it's a small little plant. It's just a little reminder of, of, of mother nature. It's what it is.
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Speaker 4: Is that what it's reminding?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that what you act like?
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Speaker 4: You ain't got one. I do not have a Gucci plan in my house. But you have one. So why are you acting like it's so odd? I possess one as a woman, but like, I don't, you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: This is so uncomfortable.
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Speaker 4: Well, Considering the interview that people are about to hear in a moment.
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Speaker 3: They're going to get used to this.
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Speaker 4: We're warming them up. It's a primer. We're warming you up because we're in the thick of it with Marshawn Lynch, who was amazing and wonderful.
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Speaker 3: He was so, you know what I like the most about when we had the opportunity to talk to him? He is always joyful. He's always a good time. I wonder, you know, you think you see him, you're like, do you ever have a bad day? I'm sure he does, but he's really fun.
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Speaker 4: His spirit is infectious. But it was funny how he called us wild. I was like, I'm sorry. You don't want to talk about Sharkoochie.
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Speaker 3: Well, Coscarelli called him charming. He is very charming.
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Speaker 4: That is true.
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Speaker 3: That is an accurate description.
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Speaker 4: That is a very accurate description. So y'all will hear that in a moment.
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Speaker 3: You're going to love it because we talked about, just FYI for those who, this is why you got to stick around and listen. You guys all know that Chris Johnson has ALS, former NFL player. Chris Johnson has ALS, former running back. And he talked about his first visit to see him, talked about the friendship. And it was really, really beautiful. It was. Because I think when we found out, I know many people were shocked. I'm sure other people who have known him were.
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Speaker 4: The deterioration happened so fast.
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Speaker 3: It was so rapid.
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Speaker 4: Yep, it did.
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Speaker 3: ALS is, you know, much like cancer, it is not discriminant. Is that the way to say it? It goes to anyone.
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Speaker 2: Anybody.
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Speaker 3: Anybody can have it. It's so sad to see somebody so young with. family, anybody, period. But the deterioration is really scary. But Marshawn talks about it in a very eloquent way so that we all can understand it. He breaks it down, which I love.
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Speaker 4: And he talks about his new graphic novel that he has out. Beast Mode 510. Shout out to Oakland.
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Speaker 3: And he also talks about dating.
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Speaker 4: He gave you some excellent dating advice.
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Speaker 3: He kind of talks about his life and put me on game.
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Speaker 1: He did.
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Speaker 4: You're right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because he don't want you to be Desert Storm out here.
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Speaker 3: I was like, what?
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Speaker 4: What are we talking about? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: But maybe that's why you have a Gucci plant. Is that why? I was like, I'm not married. Married people are dead because you're fully Desert Storm because you're married. So it's like, what?
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Speaker 4: I love how you think, you know, we a rainforest up in here. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Okay, talk it, talk it, talk it. Meanwhile, we had a lot that we haven't covered. Congratulations to the Atlanta Dream and the Golden State Valkyries. That is our WNBA finals for 2026. Two sweeps. Two sweeps. Absolutely amazing. There were so many things to talk about. I will go with first, though. We need to say all hail the queen. Five-time MVP.
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Speaker 4: Asia Wilson. Yep.
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Speaker 3: And I thought. She was so gracious. I loved the push, the marketing push. I love what they showed us. I love Bam giving her so much love, telling her who she is, and calling her wife, putting everybody like, ooh, look, they married. I don't know if it's legally.
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Speaker 4: But yes. In our minds.
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Speaker 3: In our minds, they are married.
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Speaker 1: They married.
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Speaker 4: It don't matter.
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Speaker 3: And I loved it. And I love that Don Staley narrated a beautiful video to her. I love the memes of her with like Will Chamberlain, Bill Russell. I think other people who won five. Oh, Michael Jordan. I think it was Michael Jordan. How many MVPs did, Buff, how many MVPs did Michael Jordan get? There's been a couple of memes going around, but she was on the mountaintop with them. And I thought it was only apropos.
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Speaker 4: Because I think she might have more than Jordan.
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Speaker 3: You think so?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm trying to think of how many. I know LeBron has four, I think.
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Speaker 3: You think she has more than Jordan? Let me look it up. He's at five, yeah. Oh, he does have five. And how many does Bill Russell have? Because I think that was what it was. It was Michael Jordan, Bill Russell.
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Speaker 1: And her.
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Speaker 3: And they were all just sitting there chilling like, we did it. And what? So impressive. Congratulations. Yeah, five. Perfect. That's what I saw. Look at me doing my thing.
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Speaker 4: Look at you. Look at you. A fountain of knowledge. And you know what? Real quick, let's hear from Asia Wilson first. when she accepted the MVP, her fifth.
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Speaker 5: You dream as a young girl. You dream so big and you write your goals out and you just never imagine that you were able to just check them off. And when you're able to check them off, small wins, big wins, it truly means a lot. And so I think that's why I cried a little bit harder on this one because 15-year-old Aisha wasn't sitting up here dreaming about being a five-time MVP. She wasn't dreaming about being a three-time champion. She was just dreaming about surviving this world. And so for me to sit up here with surrounded by these trophies and to be able to play the game of basketball every single day, it just means a little bit more to me. And it's something that I won't.
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Speaker 1: Take for granted.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm with you. I think it was a it's an incredible achievement. Everybody's always like, OK, so does this officially make Asia Wilson the best player?
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Speaker 1: Ever.
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Speaker 4: Does this make her the GOAT? I think in women's basketball, that's a really tough discussion because it's not just hardware. Of course, it's like, you know, you look at a bunch of different accomplishments. She's definitely in the conversation. But I think the women's game is one where I don't know that I can really name a goat because it's so hard.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's very similar to in the NBA. There are people who will fight you if you say that LeBron's not to go there. There there's a generation.
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Speaker 4: But it feels like a two man race, though, even though Kareem, I think Kareem, to me, has a case that is often dismissed. I mean, he changed the game at every single level.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's because so few people are now on social and have experience that they can't really talk about it that way.
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Speaker 4: And he's a big dude.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to be a historian of the game, that too. Okay, wait a second. You're right. It is a two-man race, but my goat is going to be Kobe. But you're right. It would be arguably, generally speaking.
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Speaker 4: Generally speaking.
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Speaker 3: Well, it could be a two-woman race right now.
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Speaker 4: I mean, some people say Diana Taurasi. Some people say Cynthia Cooper. Some people say Cheryl Swoops. Some people say Cheryl Swoops. And even people like to put Cheryl Miller in there. It's like, but she didn't play in the WNBA. And it's a shame because I think before the WNBA existed, most people probably would say Cheryl Miller. But I think it's just a much tougher, because some people say Maya Moore. It's just like an incredibly tough decision to make.
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Speaker 3: But listen, you might get me leaning like I was like, it's a two woman race, Maya and Asia.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know that it is. I think it's broader than that.
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Speaker 3: And then I think Cynthia, like you're right. You can't call it.
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Speaker 4: You can't call it like it's tough.
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Speaker 3: I wonder why we can't call it. We'll have this conversation again a couple of years from now.
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Speaker 4: Why can't we call it?
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Speaker 3: There's a reason why. And I don't know. We haven't really delved into that. But let's figure out why. Everyone's going to have their own version. And it's an argument that I love to have because we're having the argument, the debate about who is the greatest of all time in the WNBA. It's a beautiful debate to have.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think even if you're in the conversation, like, that's the win. But the fact is, like, Asia Wilson, I think she's played nine seasons. And the fact that half of those seasons she has won MVP is the most absurd statistic I can possibly think.
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Speaker 1: Of for a player.
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Speaker 4: It's like, she's won five out of the nine times that she's been in the league. That is, that's insane.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it hasn't been as if the competition hasn't been great. She's been playing with the greats. Those have even then retired and moved on. She's been playing with some really amazing talent. I think that, yeah, wow.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't even know.
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Speaker 3: You're like, I don't even know where to go. You can make a case for a lot of these ladies for various reasons and what they were able to accomplish. And also for the simple fact that while we have more eyes on the game now, it feels as if we have more eyes on the game now, there are a lot of people who never witnessed Cynthia play or Cheryl and Cynthia play together or Cheryl, Cynthia, and Tina play together in that case. Or for that matter, somebody would say, or Maya. Like, that wasn't that long ago. Maya wasn't that long ago.
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Speaker 4: She wasn't.
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Speaker 3: Right, but did we have the same amount of attention? I don't know. People would be like, it's hard-pressed to find somebody saying Maya wasn't it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, Maya, I think she only played eight seasons. And so... you think about what the rest of her career might have looked like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah. If, if that's what she had wanted to do.
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Speaker 4: Correct. If she, but she obviously walked away for, uh, the important reason of, of, you know, changing the world, changing the world, becoming more active. Um, she's married to him now. She, she freed her husband from like, uh, an unjust, you know, sort of sentence on his life. So it's, it, it was a lot more to it. So it's kind of hard to say, but, Getting back to this finals matchup, it's like, shout out to the dream. I didn't realize this. I looked it up. But maybe now we can look at it from this perspective. Gabby Williams and Angel Reese might be the two biggest acquisitions this offseason of the W. So, like, they traded— the Chicago Sky traded Angel Reese. And I remind people, traded. They traded her, okay?
00:14:09
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
00:14:10
Speaker 4: They traded her, like, I think it was April 6th.
00:14:13
Speaker 3: Right.
00:14:13
Speaker 4: And something like two weeks later, the Golden State Valkyries signed Gabby Williams to a multi-year deal.
00:14:20
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
00:14:21
Speaker 4: They both got picked up in the same month. And now they're both meeting in the finals. And I'm like, wow. That is astounding on top of the many layers of this finals that we're about to see between these two teams. Especially for Angel. It's like, you know, Chicago, they've had some problems.
00:14:39
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. When you say they have some problems. They've had a lot of problems.
00:14:43
Speaker 4: Like when you look at the list of players they've had and no longer have, you know.
00:14:49
Speaker 3: But I also, let's just give back. Let's go back because it wasn't that long ago. I want to say 20, when did they win the championship with Candice?
00:14:58
Speaker 1: 2022?
00:14:58
Speaker 3: 2023? It wasn't. So what happened between 2023 and 2026? Let me look up when they won the chip.
00:15:06
Speaker 4: But there was, they have, they should be more relevant than they are. And Angel was, you know, she was critical.
00:15:16
Speaker 3: 2021. 2021.
00:15:16
Speaker 4: That's not that far. I mean, that's five years ago.
00:15:19
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
00:15:20
Speaker 4: And so she was critical of them. And I don't think her criticism, it wasn't unfair. She was just saying, like, we need to be better in every area. Build a team. Like, we have some components, but we need so much more. And they shipped her out of there because she was a little too honest.
00:15:38
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:15:38
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the way it came across. That's the way it came across. That's the way on top of, you know, you buy her teaspoon after one year. They are a little bit in disarray. And I think this makes it look worse. The fact that she's going on to another team. And I get it. Atlanta was a playoff team. They had some components. But Angel has taken this team to another level. And that is, to me, just indisputable.
00:16:03
Speaker 3: So. But shout out to Jordan Canada. I also want to just talk about. Man, Jordan Canada. I honestly believe, like, yes, Angel was everything. But Jordan was instant offense. She was, I mean, lights out. She was playing with a certain type of theory that she could not be denied. It reminded me of Gabriela Jaquez. Not the same.
00:16:28
Speaker 4: Type of play. Look at you shout now, UCLA all over the place.
00:16:31
Speaker 3: But do you remember in that championship game?
00:16:33
Speaker 4: Oh, she wasn't playing.
00:16:34
Speaker 3: She couldn't be denied. She plays for the Chicago Sky. So we haven't been able to, I mean, listen, that team in itself and that organization obviously has to do some retooling. And I hope that she can shine brighter if she has to stay there in whatever capacity. But she, what she, she was like, I wanted her to be MVP. She couldn't be the MVP, obviously. But in my mind, I was like, she was just there. Everything was hers. She was hustling on both sides. And I was just like, I love everything about her. And that's how I felt about Jordan Canada. And yes, I'm going to shout out UCLA. And that same thing, I want to go on over to Golden State and talk about that head coach. Do you want to do that?
00:17:09
Speaker 4: Oh, talk about, I've.
00:17:10
Speaker 3: Seen more UCLA. Oh my gosh, here we go.
00:17:13
Speaker 1: Next.
00:17:13
Speaker 3: Point guard from 98 to 2003 at UCLA. She spent some time abroad. She's from Huntington Beach, Orange County, California. I will say this. The only thing that makes me a little concerned is that she did spend some time with the Clippers. I'm not going to hold that against her. Anybody who knows me knows I hate the Clippers.
00:17:31
Speaker 1: I'm so petty.
00:17:32
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to get over that. You're going to have to explain this to me.
00:17:35
Speaker 3: I'm so petty.
00:17:36
Speaker 4: I do not understand why you hate a team that has never been on the Lakers level.
00:17:39
Speaker 3: Because they exist.
00:17:41
Speaker 4: They just can't exist.
00:17:42
Speaker 3: The same way you hate. I don't have to explain anything to you, Michigan State fan. You hate.
00:17:47
Speaker 4: Yes, I hate the University of Michigan. Yes, but that makes sense.
00:17:50
Speaker 3: No, you hate other teams too for no reason. Like anything. I hate the Seahawks. It's so unnecessary.
00:17:56
Speaker 4: Shout out to my 49ers. We undefeated. Bust that ass. Anyway. So, yes, but it makes sense why we hate them.
00:18:03
Speaker 3: You see, her petty makes sense.
00:18:05
Speaker 4: My petty makes sense. Your petty with the Clippers doesn't make sense.
00:18:08
Speaker 1: It does.
00:18:08
Speaker 3: They encroached on our territory. Nobody needed them in Englewood. We was already there up to no good. Nobody needed them. We was there up to no good. They could have easily went to Orange County. Sorry for pounding on the table. They could have easily went somewhere. They didn't need to be in our vicinity. It's like, it's fine.
00:18:25
Speaker 4: You're like, they don't even deserve to breathe the same air as us. That's like generally your position on them. You're like, why do they exist? Do you agree?
00:18:33
Speaker 3: I just think it's... Do you agree?
00:18:35
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Giants fans who hate the Patriots.
00:18:38
Speaker 3: Why?
00:18:38
Speaker 4: Y'all beat them twice for Super Bowls. They're not all your... I mean, you know, in the context of the games.
00:18:43
Speaker 3: No.
00:18:44
Speaker 4: It's like, why do you hate them?
00:18:45
Speaker 3: And you know what? This is my town. Why are you in my town?
00:18:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:18:49
Speaker 3: Why are you in my city?
00:18:50
Speaker 4: Clippers can't get no love. Why are you in my city? It is very strange.
00:18:54
Speaker 3: Hanging up your JV jerseys. Why are you in my city?
00:18:58
Speaker 4: When you run into a Clippers fan, it's like a Clippers fan. It's like, I feel like I've. They're just doing it because they're a contrarian.
00:19:04
Speaker 3: Just because.
00:19:05
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't. I need to understand how you became one.
00:19:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:19:09
Speaker 4: In this town. Because it's bizarre. Because you have one team that's won 50-11 championships.
00:19:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:19:15
Speaker 4: Y'all ain't won nothing. So it's like, I don't even get like, was it a decision?
00:19:21
Speaker 3: I will walk this back. I will say, I will say they produce Natalie. And so obviously her being on the, on their G league and working with them as a coach on the bench for the actual Clippers playing with them in the NBA. I mean, coaching within the NBA, she's learned a lot. It's helped her become the coach that she is today. And so, therefore, there's something happening there. I don't know.
00:19:45
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:19:45
Speaker 3: Was that a compliment?
00:19:46
Speaker 4: You're disgusted with the Clippers.
00:19:48
Speaker 3: Was that a good... The Clips gonna clip. That's what you always say. I have coined that since... You've coined that phrase. Early 2010s. Yes. And they never.
00:19:57
Speaker 4: They never stop clipping.
00:19:59
Speaker 3: They never disappoint.
00:20:00
Speaker 4: They do not.
00:20:01
Speaker 3: They never disappoint.
00:20:02
Speaker 4: They ain't got a draft pick.
00:20:03
Speaker 3: Pablo Torrey founds out. Go ahead, Pablo.
00:20:05
Speaker 4: They ain't got a draft pick to like 2075. I don't know if our first round pick is like... They spent all that money on that confusing dome, Intuit dome.
00:20:17
Speaker 3: Can't even get in there unless you're a robot. Have you been inside?
00:20:20
Speaker 4: I have not, but it's totally... It's state-of-the-art. It's facial recognition.
00:20:26
Speaker 3: It's all the things. And I'm just like, okay, come on.
00:20:29
Speaker 4: Your cash is not welcome there.
00:20:30
Speaker 3: I'm just like, come on, man. I don't feel like all this. I want to get inside. Like, can I just get inside? Old school, get inside, but whatever. Shout out to the Clippers. I wish you guys the best.
00:20:38
Speaker 4: No, you don't. She's a lie. She hates you. And if you went away tomorrow, she would not care. I hope things get better. She does not. She hopes you guys continue to suck.
00:20:46
Speaker 3: Steve is actually, I like Steve Ballmer. He's actually a nice guy. I actually, I enjoy him saying what's going on.
00:20:51
Speaker 4: I'm inspired by his enthusiasm.
00:20:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so enthusiastic. Okay, go on.
00:20:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you want a winner to be. But as you said, Natalie, Golden State, Gabby Williams, Veronica Burton, Tiffany Hayes. It's going to be interesting.
00:21:14
Speaker 3: Can you pick? I don't think I can pick. You got one? Because you've been so good thus far. Are you ready to say who's going to win it all?
00:21:22
Speaker 4: This, to me, was the best matchup.
00:21:24
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:21:25
Speaker 4: This was the best matchup.
00:21:25
Speaker 3: I agree.
00:21:26
Speaker 4: But I got to be honest, as we are often here on Flagrant and Funny.
00:21:31
Speaker 5: Honest?
00:21:31
Speaker 3: Honest.
00:21:32
Speaker 4: We are often honest.
00:21:33
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:21:34
Speaker 4: Okay. Is, Angel Reese winning a ship feels now like a civil rights movement.
00:21:40
Speaker 3: It just, like, I don't.
00:21:42
Speaker 4: Want to be the one to say, hey, you know, I don't want to pick, don't say, because I feel like the black people are going to rise up against me.
00:21:52
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:21:52
Speaker 4: Like, so.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:21:54
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't, I don't want to.
00:21:55
Speaker 3: That's fair.
00:21:56
Speaker 4: I don't want to do that.
00:21:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:21:57
Speaker 4: Because right now, there are certain matchups, like, let's be honest, in sports, is that, Where you know Black America has galvanized.
00:22:06
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right?
00:22:07
Speaker 4: That's our team. Growing up, the team that we all hated was Duke. Oh. Duke has been a thorn in Black history for a long time.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: They ruined Black history.
00:22:19
Speaker 4: Oh, my God. UNLV.
00:22:20
Speaker 3: Yeah. Michigan. Yeah.
00:22:23
Speaker 4: It's like they have broken... They don't respect black lives.
00:22:28
Speaker 3: You don't fool with Christian Laidner to this day, huh?
00:22:30
Speaker 4: Duke don't respect black lives. They don't.
00:22:32
Speaker 3: Black lives don't matter.
00:22:33
Speaker 4: Black lives don't matter to Duke. And it feels like.
00:22:36
Speaker 3: You are ridiculous.
00:22:38
Speaker 5: They don't.
00:22:38
Speaker 4: They do not matter.
00:22:40
Speaker 3: Christian Laidner is on the phone. He wants to talk to you.
00:22:42
Speaker 4: Yes, I know.
00:22:42
Speaker 3: He's upset with your behavior.
00:22:43
Speaker 1: He finds it egregious.
00:22:44
Speaker 3: He finds you egregious.
00:22:46
Speaker 4: I agree. Okay, go on. But, like, credibly, like, when I meet a black Duke fan, I'm just like, I feel like you're AI. They're a boy. they're AI I don't I was like I don't get why.
00:22:58
Speaker 3: You what about Zion you don't fool with him I like.
00:23:02
Speaker 4: Zion but it's it just feels Duke feels anti-black that's all that's all I can say really that rooting for Duke is anti not now actually now it's much better yeah but when I was growing up then anti-black akin to the Celtics it was the Celtics it's like I felt like.
00:23:20
Speaker 3: Literally, I'm rooting for the Klan. Like, what are we doing? You got the dream winning.
00:23:25
Speaker 4: So, what I will say is... Will it go the full seven?
00:23:29
Speaker 3: I think it's going seven.
00:23:30
Speaker 4: It's going seven. Like, these are two very evenly matching. You got a taste of that. Like, your team disappointed all of Black America.
00:23:38
Speaker 3: Oh, she's talking about UCLA.
00:23:40
Speaker 4: I'm talking about UCLA.
00:23:40
Speaker 3: I'm like, my team?
00:23:41
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:23:42
Speaker 3: I get it.
00:23:43
Speaker 4: Yes, you did. You're a race traitor, Carrie. You're a race traitor.
00:23:46
Speaker 3: Because, what are you talking about? Everybody on that team was biracial.
00:23:50
Speaker 4: You're a race traitor. You disappointed. You let down Black America.
00:23:54
Speaker 3: Everyone on that team was biracial. Again.
00:23:57
Speaker 4: It didn't matter. It didn't matter. Or foreign. We were behind South Carolina. And look what y'all did. Y'all don't care about Black lives.
00:24:05
Speaker 3: You're right. Y'all don't. Yeah.
00:24:07
Speaker 4: UCLA don't care about Black lives.
00:24:08
Speaker 3: I think you're blaming my coach because she's white.
00:24:12
Speaker 4: I'm not. Actually, you know I love Courtney.
00:24:14
Speaker 3: I know. I am.
00:24:15
Speaker 4: Joking people. I can't wait till this is a headline on Breitbart or somewhere else. Jemele Hill saying that Duke is anti-Black. So is UCLA.
00:24:24
Speaker 3: So is UCLA.
00:24:24
Speaker 1: No.
00:24:24
Speaker 4: No, I get what you mean.
00:24:26
Speaker 3: Well, that was because of what happened the day before or two days before with your boy, Geno. Right? That's right. I think that had a lot to do with why people were rooting for Dawn because it felt like she was being picked on for no reason when she was trying to be classy and Gina was a sore loser. Right. He has since apologized. And Don has asked us to move on. But you have told her.
00:24:52
Speaker 4: But you. You told her. You was like, you ain't moving on.
00:24:54
Speaker 3: You told her that too. You said, I'm not moving on. I was like, I don't know. We may not have moved on. Yeah.
00:24:58
Speaker 4: We got to have a meeting. The black folks, we got to have a meeting to decide.
00:25:01
Speaker 1: If we're going to move on.
00:25:02
Speaker 4: It's on the agenda.
00:25:03
Speaker 3: So when it's all said and done, before we get to this Marshawn Lynch interview, you are rooting for Atlanta.
00:25:10
Speaker 4: I don't know if rooting is the right word. But you just think they're going to win.
00:25:15
Speaker 3: Uh.
00:25:15
Speaker 4: Man, this series is honestly too close to call.
00:25:17
Speaker 3: I can't call it.
00:25:18
Speaker 4: I can't call it. It is very too... You know what? The Black people ain't stoning me. I got to be out in the city. Well, you know what I.
00:25:27
Speaker 3: I got to go to Black places. I think we're going to see... The Black people are not... I think we're going to see... Angel Reese got it. She got it. We're going to see a different Angel. Even though she's been all business in the playoffs, I think she's just going to step it up another level. And I think it's going to be.
00:25:38
Speaker 4: She's a high motor, high energy player.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:25:40
Speaker 3: And... But Gabby's going to match it.
00:25:42
Speaker 4: That's the thing. Gabby is going to match it.
00:25:43
Speaker 3: She's just the X Factor for me when it comes to this team. Yes, Tiff Hayes is also instant offense. And Veronica Burton, just incredible. But Gabby almost beat us in the Olympics. Remember, we sat there and watched.
00:26:00
Speaker 4: Single-handedly. I was like, yo. I got something for y'all.
00:26:04
Speaker 3: I've been scared ever since. So I never knew.
00:26:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get you. But Buffy says Gino is all in on Golden State. You know what?
00:26:13
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying?
00:26:19
Speaker 4: I don't want to pick against the civil rights movement. That's all I know. It's like I'm not doing it. They're not coming after me.
00:26:25
Speaker 3: So you're saying they're going to win definitively.
00:26:27
Speaker 4: I'm going to say it. Atlanta got it.
00:26:29
Speaker 1: All right.
00:26:29
Speaker 4: I ain't going against the ATL.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: I'm not going against nobody. I'm not even calling it because I'm all like, I don't. One, I'd rather be like, oh, I really know what's going on. I'll make a decision after game one.
00:26:39
Speaker 4: Okay. After game one.
00:26:40
Speaker 3: What we didn't discuss as we're wrapping this up is that I'm really disappointed that Atlanta doesn't have a place or a bigger venue. Let's talk about it. I want to say this. Right now, from my understanding, Atlanta doesn't have a bigger venue because they have no place to play.
00:26:56
Speaker 4: Because their current facility, only 3,500 is the capacity.
00:27:00
Speaker 3: And so they can't use State Farm Arena because apparently there's a concert and two NBA games. The Hawks also play there. In my mind, I would think as soon as they made it to the playoffs, they would have been looking. I hope the NBA is helping them in attempting to find a different location because I'm sure they've been in this place before. We've asked our producer to reach out to the NBA, so we'll wait for their response. We don't know if that's the case, but I assume that they are doing it. But this leads me to a bigger discussion that can no longer be avoided. We're going to have to start talking about women getting their own arenas.
00:27:31
Speaker 4: Exactly.
00:27:32
Speaker 3: They already are getting their own practice facilities. Now it's time for their own arenas, especially in these types of situations. Everybody then uses this as an example of what their 15 teams in the league, all 15 teams in the league need to know I may be in the finals. So where will my girls go? Where would these ladies rather go if, in fact, it rolls into preseason of NBA?
00:27:56
Speaker 1: Is it?
00:27:58
Speaker 4: And unfortunately for a lot of women that are playing, this is something that they have sadly probably been accustomed to throughout their careers.
00:28:06
Speaker 3: Yeah. We remember. Yes.
00:28:08
Speaker 4: I remember when I played sports, we often had to accommodate the male practice times. I mean, it's just like that's kind of what it is.
00:28:15
Speaker 3: I remember when we were in L.A. and the Sparks were playing in a gymnasium and it was like playoffs. What?
00:28:20
Speaker 1: What?
00:28:20
Speaker 3: Yep. What are you talking?
00:28:21
Speaker 2: Or not?
00:28:22
Speaker 3: Look, we can use the biggest example of them all. New York Liberty. They were all the way out in Westchester playing some play. They got kicked. They didn't necessarily get kicked out, but they were removed from MSG. They weren't playing there anymore. And they had other like that's where the practice facility was. That's where the games were. And they said, move them back, move them back. And look what happened. But they you know, if you build it, they will come. That's the way I believe this will happen. If you build it and this is to all the owners. to the NBA, to the WNBA, they will come. It's time to start having that conversation in a realistic way.
00:28:54
Speaker 4: And as it was, people were on the hawk's ass because they put out a graphic. I saw that.
00:29:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:02
Speaker 4: Listen, respectfully, but also disrespectfully.
00:29:05
Speaker 3: Like my driving?
00:29:07
Speaker 4: Your driving is very disrespectful. But You know, with these NBA games, I feel like there's a compromise that's in there for State Farm. You know, and I know the Atlanta owners, like, they're not trying to miss any money. Like, $ 3, 500 is not going to do it.
00:29:21
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:22
Speaker 4: So I saw a reporter suggest this. I think it was Ann Killian, who is a reporter I've known for a while, who said, like, why not do– try to do, like, a doubleheader that day or whatever. Like, figure out a way because the 80, you know, Atlanta's behind this team. Like they easily, if there was a 17,000 square foot or 17,000 seat arena available right now, it would sell out in a heartbeat because of how much they love this team and how they're representing the city. And I know it, to me, it just kind of gets to the general, um, feeling about the WNBA is that it's always been an afterthought.
00:30:04
Speaker 3: Well, by the time we do Wednesday's podcast, I would assume they would find a place and we'll be able to report back.
00:30:12
Speaker 4: Because I'm wondering if it's having some, you know, some effect on ticket sales, because are you going to buy tickets and you don't know what it is?
00:30:19
Speaker 3: I think people still buy tickets. Okay. I just, I, especially this is the first time they've been to the final since 2013. They have won zero finals games. Um, Shout out to Angel McCaffrey. I was like, shout out to Angel, man. The angels of doing it for him.
00:30:33
Speaker 4: Who averaged 30 in that finals, by the way.
00:30:35
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I definitely believe this is one for the city.
00:30:39
Speaker 4: Well, they need to figure it out.
00:30:40
Speaker 3: You know who figured it out? Our boomer, Sean. All right.
00:30:43
Speaker 4: Come on, transition us, queen.
00:30:45
Speaker 3: Go on and let's talk about this. Marshawn Lynch, he has a new graphic novel out called Beast Mode 510. He explains that to us.
00:30:55
Speaker 4: So much more.
00:30:56
Speaker 3: So much more. So much more. And only the way that Marshawn could. I hope you enjoy this interview, y'all.
00:31:02
Speaker 4: Sharkoochie. First of all, what you eat, though, because you make it look delicious, whatever it is.
00:31:12
Speaker 3: He's hungry.
00:31:13
Speaker 1: Crystal Carter, Sharkoochie. Uh-huh.
00:31:17
Speaker 3: What are the ingredients for sad coochie?
00:31:20
Speaker 1: Not sad coochie, shark coochie.
00:31:21
Speaker 3: I said sad coochie, like what kind of shark coochie?
00:31:24
Speaker 1: Not sad coochie. Sad coochie.
00:31:28
Speaker 4: You said shark coochie.
00:31:30
Speaker 1: It's shark coochie.
00:31:32
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:31:33
Speaker 3: Tell me what's in shark coochie.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: Honey, hard-ass bread, and it's some jelly and some pepper jack cheese.
00:31:44
Speaker 3: Sounds like I mean, I don't know.
00:31:47
Speaker 2: What charcuterie would constitute. It would constitute, what is this called? Charcuterie.
00:31:59
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm dead. Oh, it's charcuterie, but you said it was charcuterie.
00:32:05
Speaker 2: No, somebody told me that.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: I didn't make that up.
00:32:10
Speaker 4: I love it.
00:32:11
Speaker 3: You should say you made it up. That's hilarious.
00:32:13
Speaker 4: You need to take credit for that.
00:32:14
Speaker 1: You should say you made it up.
00:32:16
Speaker 4: You should.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
00:32:18
Speaker 4: You know, we got all these Marshawn Lynch-isms. I mean, why not add Sharkoochie to it? Sharkoochie is the best.
00:32:24
Speaker 1: That's best.
00:32:25
Speaker 4: I'd rather say Sharkoochie than charcuterie.
00:32:27
Speaker 3: I'd rather say Sharkoochie than charcuterie.
00:32:30
Speaker 1: Y'all terrible. Let me see.
00:32:34
Speaker 4: Oh, but now we terrible.
00:32:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. Y'all over there talking about something. I don't... You know what? That's that speed of weed shit.
00:32:46
Speaker 3: That's funny.
00:32:47
Speaker 4: That is hilarious.
00:32:48
Speaker 3: All right.
00:32:49
Speaker 1: I ain't nothing all day, so I'm.
00:32:50
Speaker 3: It's okay.
00:32:51
Speaker 4: I understand.
00:32:52
Speaker 3: I'm starving, too. Marshawn, the last time I saw you as we get started was at Super Bowl, and you were in the suite, the Kendrick Lamar suite, when Kendrick Lamar performed. That's the last time I saw you. You came in there. Do you know April? You know April McDonald? Do you remember her?
00:33:07
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
00:33:09
Speaker 3: That's our girl. That's the last time I saw you.
00:33:11
Speaker 1: Is that right? We was in New Orleans.
00:33:16
Speaker 3: That's right.
00:33:16
Speaker 4: We were.
00:33:17
Speaker 3: I didn't know where it was. I didn't know where it was. That's a good one.
00:33:19
Speaker 1: New Orleans.
00:33:20
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Do you like New York when you're there? Because I'm from California, but you're from the Bay. I'm from LA. So that's blood versus crip sometimes. Like we're just two different people. It really is. And so do you love.
00:33:35
Speaker 2: Y'all started recording already?
00:33:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:39
Speaker 3: We're talking about Sharkoochie and Blood vs. Crips.
00:33:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. This motherfucker just took a turn for the better. What we doing? What we doing? What we doing? I want to.
00:33:49
Speaker 3: Know how you... Do you like New York when you there? I want to know your energy.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I fuck with New York for sure. But you got to remember, I was in Buffalo a long time ago. And when we got days off, we would come around and, you know what I mean? We would come get down out here. So, you know what I mean? I got love from New York straight up. They take care of me out here too.
00:34:15
Speaker 4: Well, since we're on the subject of talking about hometowns, you know, right now, the Golden State Valkyries, they're on the brink In fact, by the time this interview may air, they may be in the WNBA finals. I know you've spent some time with the Valkyries. You've gone to the games. Talk your shit, Marshawn. What do you think about the Valkyries, their run, their success, everything that they're doing?
00:34:39
Speaker 2: Realistically, it's good for the Bay. I feel a certain type of way about.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: Bay Area. I can't even say Bay Area sports. Let me stop lying.
00:34:51
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Oakland sports because All our teams have slid on us, so, you know what I mean? But to be able to see them, you know what I mean, doing their things, being an expensive team, coming out, doing, you know, doing their shit, like, it gave the city, like, I don't even want to say the city, it gave the Bay, it gave the Bay another opportunity to cheer for, you know, a sports team. But what they got going on over there is actually pretty solid, though, like, from an organizational standpoint. Like, they really, I think they did it the right way.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: I think they're the blueprint, honestly. This is their second year in the league. It looks like they're about to be in the finals. The valuation for that team is more than any other WNBA team in existence. And their fan base shows up like they're sold out. And then this group of players that they have are hungry. They play well together. Yeah. I just, I don't know who put it all together. I know you talked about the organization, but I said this on the show the other day. They are the blueprint. Like, if you look at it, for a minute it was the Liberty, and we still love that experience. That's a great fan experience. I haven't been to Valhalla. Have you been to any games? Yes, you've been to games there. Tell me what it feels like while you're there.
00:36:06
Speaker 2: It's... I mean, you know, see, the thing is, I kind of, you know, I might be biased just because, you feel me, though.
00:36:15
Speaker 1: I'm a town nigga.
00:36:15
Speaker 2: But the Bay, like, with any Bay Area team, the fans always doing ape shit. So, you know what I mean? Especially for them to be, you know what I mean, in the playoffs right now. And I've been to, what, I think I went to game, I'm not sure, game two against Dallas?
00:36:35
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: And the experience in the stadium was stupid because, I mean, you got too short performing at halftime.
00:36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:36:45
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, And then it's like, you feel me? You really get the beta come out now. Although you got this, you got like the squares of the bay that come in and support it. But you know what I mean? With social media, they done learned how to go dumb. You feel me though? The whole shit like you got real, you got real tech nerds in there.
00:37:05
Speaker 1: You feel me though? Popping that callus in like, you feel me?
00:37:08
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, to see that is, is, I mean, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a good feeling and damn, you know, I was able to take my, uh, my guy babies in there.
00:37:17
Speaker 1: I mean, they big and they big in the sport.
00:37:20
Speaker 2: So to see them like running around in there from a from a I mean, a different perspective of just, you know, me kicking back and actually seeing them, you know, get down. And then you feel me? I was I was I was tucked and I was under. So, I mean, when when a lot of people really, you know, noticing me or whatever. So it wasn't more so that, you know, they was focused on individuals coming up and speaking to me, but them actually being able to, you know, I mean, walk around the stadium and, you know, get, you know, the T-shirts and, you know, going to the little clubs that they got, go grab some food and everything. So, I mean, you know, for me, it was a great experience to see them actually enjoying it. But then, I mean, just the energy that, you know, I mean, that the Bay brain, no matter where they at and how they getting down, Win or lose, you know, we going to rock.
00:38:11
Speaker 1: So that's always a blessing.
00:38:15
Speaker 4: You know, I do feel you mentioned something a moment ago. I do feel terrible for Oakland fans because, as you mentioned, the teams that you guys have loved for a long time, the teams that you guys built in the brands, you know, you got the Raiders. They go to Las Vegas. We know what's about to happen with the A's. I think they're going to Vegas, too. I mean, as somebody who grew up in Oakland and you've seen this happen, how heartbreaking is it for you that Oakland has become that city that these teams have abandoned?
00:38:44
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to be honest with you, it's like, it's a fucked up feeling. But the thing is, what I don't think they understand is like, it wasn't the teams that gave.
00:38:59
Speaker 1: The city... they kind of like swag. It was the city that gave them teams that shit.
00:39:05
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? That shit hit different when you think about it like that, though.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:39:13
Speaker 2: Most cities get their swag from their team because they good or whatever. It was vice versa when you think about Oakland teams. You know what I mean? All runs and shit. Even with baseball, like, you got Ricky Henderson running around in bases, and that's a real town nigga, though, you feel me, so that shit, it different, and then just hard-nosed Oakland Raiders football, we gonna bust your ass in the mouth, that's real town shit, though, you feel me, like, that's how it going, then, you feel me, though, when you think about the Warriors, like, you know, what Draymond really represented, like, That's my son. So, you feel me? He ain't got no choice but to be like, it's kind of like that. And the thing is, you know, you get that from the city rather than the team giving, you know, the city something to be proud of. Like, motherfuckers was proud to play for the Raiders because that motherfucker was from the town. Like, you take somebody like Charles Woodson, you feel me, though, who not from Oakland, but if you ask anybody, you feel me, though, outside of that they don't think that Charles Woodson was really a town nigga though like he ain't even from Oakland but he represented it so well and so tough like that's the type of shit like you feel me when you think about it from from Oakland and how that how that give you and anybody that has came to Oakland they'll tell you that like it's so like I don't know it's like to the point where, like, no matter where you from, it hug you and it give you a sense of, like, I belong here.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No matter where you from. So, you know what I mean?
00:40:49
Speaker 2: To have all of the teams, you know, taken away, you really taking away, like, some culture.
00:40:56
Speaker 1: From the.
00:40:58
Speaker 2: Actual team. And you leave that shit in a place where And for me, though, like, it really started. Because, I mean, you know, the Raiders, you know, the Raiders done done this before. Like, you know, they went down to L.A.
00:41:09
Speaker 1: And shit. And then they had to come right back home, though, you get it?
00:41:15
Speaker 2: And then, I mean, you know, it's a thing with the city that, you know, we probably elect, you know, slide under the radar. But, I mean, they should have built them stadiums to keep them motherfuckers going.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: They should have for sure did that, like. You know what I mean? But, you know, that's for another time. That's some bullshit.
00:41:36
Speaker 3: You talked about how the Raiders came to L.A. and then came back. I went to UCLA, and a lot of my friends are on town business. And so a lot of my friends came from Oakland to go to school at UCLA's. I always would say, and they would come down here and they complain about LA so bad. They'd be like, oh, y'all water. Y'all stole our water. That'd be the main thing they talk about. We stealing y'all water. And I'm like, all right, bet. We stole y'all water. Anything else? Cause y'all here. So I'm really curious.
00:42:06
Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all.
00:42:07
Speaker 3: Talking all this trash, but y'all still here in LA. So I'm curious about what's, what is the beef in your mind between LA? Well, NorCal versus SoCal, LA versus Oakland. It's not really LA versus Oakland. It's Northern California versus Southern California. For real.
00:42:23
Speaker 2: And the crazy part about, the crazy part about it in my mind, you feel me though? It's like, compared to you I was vice versa where we had everybody and because I was at Cal but then we had all of the SoCal niggas come up to come up to to Berkey at school.
00:42:44
Speaker 1: And they had the same type of, you know, type of vibe.
00:42:48
Speaker 2: And realistically, I think it's just something that has been implanted in, you know what I mean? Because we're a younger generation, you know what I'm talking about? So I think it's just something that's been implanted in us, like, you feel me, though? And I think it get into, like, you know, that, that, that black culture type shit where.
00:43:06
Speaker 1: Oh, they not from here. So fuck them niggas.
00:43:09
Speaker 2: But when, when, when, like you got, you got, we got, we had some, we had some hitters from, from Southern California on my college team.
00:43:17
Speaker 1: And it was always the same.
00:43:20
Speaker 2: And then it was a situation where you feel me though, me and DJ, you know, buzz jokes about this shit all the time. Uh, the Sean Jackson, where when he first got there and the first time he heard me, popping it, I'm on some shit like, yeah, bro, you feel me? I don't want to holler that cuz, bro, you know, Blood was over there tripping, though, but we gonna, you know.
00:43:39
Speaker 1: And he like, hold on, did he just say, really, cuz?
00:43:42
Speaker 3: And I'm like, at the same time, in the same sentence?
00:43:46
Speaker 2: So somebody had to tell him, like, nah, you know, they from Oakland, you feel me, though? They don't do no crips and no Bloods type situation. And, you know, it wasn't more so about, you know, about gangs and all that shit and then how you how you grow up and it's not so much, you know, affiliated with gangs, but you know, these, my people, this is what I represent.
00:44:05
Speaker 1: These is who, you know, I'm going to ride for. I'm going, you know, I'm talking about it.
00:44:10
Speaker 2: And in reality is, is more so the same thing, but you know, the culture down there just was a little bit more, uh, I'll say like put together when it comes to how organized that, you know, it was, but, uh, You know, we was athletes. So, I mean, you know, I don't want to get that, you know, misconstrued, but, you know what I mean?
00:44:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:44:29
Speaker 1: We understood.
00:44:29
Speaker 3: We understood.
00:44:31
Speaker 2: And, I mean, you know, when you popping it, you know, you want your spot to be, I want my spot to be the toughest or we got.
00:44:38
Speaker 1: The best this or the best that.
00:44:41
Speaker 2: And in reality, like, you feel me, it's more so like, shit, I was from Oakland, D-Jack was from, from L.A., then we had some other guys, you feel me, though, that felt the same way, whether they was from Fresno or, you feel me, they go up a little north to Sac.
00:44:57
Speaker 1: But.
00:45:00
Speaker 2: In all of them pockets, you got four different, you feel me, those cities who think that they the one, and they all popping it the same way. So when you say like a beef, I don't even really look at it as no beef. It was more so like everybody just want to put on for their city in order to do that. You got to pop your shit the most. And then what they found out was town niggas really got that mouthpiece. So when it came to that, we.
00:45:24
Speaker 1: Was a little bit different.
00:45:25
Speaker 3: Y'all do.
00:45:26
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:45:26
Speaker 3: We was a little bit different when it come time. True.
00:45:31
Speaker 1: It can't even go different than go ahead and spit that ism.
00:45:35
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
00:45:36
Speaker 4: Spitting that ism.
00:45:37
Speaker 3: I was like, if I hear one more person tell me they on-town business, I'm like, I get it.
00:45:41
Speaker 1: I hear you.
00:45:41
Speaker 4: I feel it. You know, we're going to ask you about your graphic novel in a moment, Beast 510, which I assume was a shout-out. Obviously, clearly a shout-out to Oakland. Before we get there, Marshawn, one thing about you, everybody know you a real one. You keep it real. Yeah, that's right. And show the cover.
00:45:59
Speaker 3: You're a real one.
00:46:00
Speaker 4: So because you're a real one, I saw a podcast interview you did recently when you were talking about, yeah, that's right. Flash it again. I saw a podcast interview you did recently where you were talking about dating and about how like you're, you know, what you're looking for now in a woman. Yeah, you can start giggling, but I saw it.
00:46:18
Speaker 3: He's like, I got to boo now. Why are you bringing that up? What you were looking.
00:46:21
Speaker 4: For as a youngster has changed, you know, as you've grown older.
00:46:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:46:26
Speaker 4: But wait, my friend here, my wonderful, beautiful co-host, Carrie, two single champions.
00:46:33
Speaker 3: Two single. She's two single. What that mean?
00:46:36
Speaker 4: I mean, my husband said she was two single.
00:46:38
Speaker 3: Her husband said I was two single. He don't know nothing about me. That translates.
00:46:43
Speaker 1: Is that single or is that single single?
00:46:47
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's clearly a difference, right?
00:46:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:46:51
Speaker 4: So you single single.
00:46:52
Speaker 3: Well, he knows the definition. What is single versus single single?
00:46:55
Speaker 1: I don't, man. Hey, look, the youngsters put me on. I heard them.
00:46:59
Speaker 2: They was chopping it up and they was talking about single and single single. Now, I don't know how explicit I could be, but y'all could do y'all thing when y'all do it. But I think single is just like I be fucking. You know what I mean? The single single is you got Desert Storm down there. So if you Desert Storm, then baby, you got to figure something out.
00:47:18
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because that ain't the way to go.
00:47:22
Speaker 4: I'm there.
00:47:23
Speaker 2: Hey, man, this life is too short to be Desert Storm. You got to put on something going on.
00:47:28
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:47:29
Speaker 4: Well, I was going to ask you to give my girl some dating advice.
00:47:33
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you. I will say, I don't believe I'm single single. She's like, it ain't Desert Storm over here. I don't believe I'm single.
00:47:41
Speaker 1: As long as you ain't Desert Storm, we good. Life too short can be Desert Storm, baby.
00:47:45
Speaker 3: Life is too short. I just read about a woman who thought she was about to die and she slept with 200 men before she died. So have at it.
00:47:51
Speaker 1: All right, now baby tripping.
00:47:54
Speaker 3: So have at it. So Jamel said, you got to give me some advice. She, we listened to your advice. You said in short in that interview, not too short, but in short in that interview, you said, um, When you were younger, you liked a certain type of woman, and now you need a different woman. You need somebody who can challenge you, not somebody who's trying to beef with you, but someone who can make you be better at the enterprise that you are creating, which is why we see you everywhere. We see you with your television shows.
00:48:33
Speaker 4: We see you in movies.
00:48:39
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to tell the people. You're supposed to be slick. I got you.
00:48:43
Speaker 1: I got you.
00:48:45
Speaker 3: We see you moving in all of these spaces. And do you, as you level up and as you are more exposed to different things that you want to partake, you find yourself acquiring different company and wanting different company. What does that look like for you when you're dating?
00:49:00
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the thing is, like, I see I'm childish, too. And I'm immature. And I'm everything that women like. What I realized then. And growing up, for whatever reason, women just like that shit.
00:49:15
Speaker 1: You feel me, though? And then, you know what I mean?
00:49:17
Speaker 2: I was just telling Chris was like, you feel me, like, I got a personality, so me just saying hi sometimes can come off as, like, I'm flirting or, you feel me, though, I'm trying to, you know what I mean, kick it to you. But with that being said, like, in my time of growth, like, Like you said, I used to like what I used to like. And the thing was, I didn't know because my mind was so, I ain't going to say it was tainted, but the way that I thought, like, I thought you was supposed to get it out of a woman.
00:49:53
Speaker 1: You feel me though?
00:49:54
Speaker 2: A or B, like everything was supposed to be all on her.
00:49:57
Speaker 1: Like I need, I need, I need an issue.
00:50:01
Speaker 2: And then what it, what it, what it grew into was like, I'm like, well, shit, I don't, So then it just got to the point where it's like, well, hold on. They talk about what you bring to the table and all of that. It was like, nah, how you going to make me feel when I do got the world on my shoulders and I'm dealing with all of these type of situations? Because I'm not a real big communicator like that. So can you see in me? to really understand like what I'm going through. Cause I'm not going to come to you like, damn baby, I got the world up the weight of my, on my shoulders. I got this, I got that. Cause I feel like that's venting. I feel like that's bitch shit. Like, I don't feel like as me personally, me, myself as a man, like I will go and do that. But if you can see that in me, like, damn, okay, something going on. And you come put your hands in my head, rub my dress for a minute. That shit, that shit will work wonders. You feel me? So it's more so like, you feel me, though? When you talk about getting in tune, it's a whole different type of situation, man, being able to see that. And then just by, you feel me, by nature, like I got little brothers and sisters, like being a provider and a protector, it's like they don't have to say shit. I can see it within them. And then, you feel me, though, with my woman, motherfucking be able to see that. And it ain't going to be like I'm going to have to come and talk to you about a gang of shit. I'm going to be able to see that. And then, all right, without even talking about it, I'm going to go try and fix whatever problems it is, though. So, I mean, you know, that's my growth in that. But I take that same approach within my work, though. So, you know what I mean? It started to become a little thing for me.
00:51:50
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good.
00:51:53
Speaker 4: See, Carrie, you got to rub somebody's dreads.
00:51:56
Speaker 3: He gave me all the advice I needed.
00:51:58
Speaker 4: He gave you some gems. He gave me some gems. He's like, he.
00:52:01
Speaker 3: Ain't going to come and talk to you like it's a diary, but you don't have to look inside and see what it is. And then the physical communication will let him know that I ride with him and it's all good.
00:52:14
Speaker 1: That come a part of knowing your person too, though.
00:52:19
Speaker 3: Well, how do you do that? If you're not a big communicator.
00:52:23
Speaker 2: That's where the time come in at. That's where the time come in. You spend some time with somebody and you can't figure it out doing shit. Then you in trouble. That probably ain't true, you feel me? But you know your person, I'm pretty sure. Jamil, you look over at your, you feel me? And y'all motherfuckers ain't got to say nothing and y'all right on point.
00:52:50
Speaker 4: He does know me.
00:52:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the time, the time, you feel me though? I mean, that come now, I'm not saying I just don't sit there and I'm just a mute.
00:53:00
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I do want to ask you about your numerous experiences. business ventures. And, you know, as Carrie mentioned, you got movies, you got cigars, you have this graphic novel that's coming out. What?
00:53:24
Speaker 3: When does a graphic novel come out?
00:53:25
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:53:25
Speaker 4: When does that come out?
00:53:26
Speaker 3: No, no.
00:53:26
Speaker 1: It came out on the 6th.
00:53:28
Speaker 3: It's on the 6th.
00:53:29
Speaker 4: October 6th. October 6th, y'all.
00:53:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, it came out on the 6th.
00:53:33
Speaker 4: But you have all these things going. And the one thing about you, and I know people have given you a lot of praise, deservedly so, is that you have never changed. You are the same in every room, that you go in. So where did that, I know this is going to sound a little bit like a weird question, but where did you get such courageousness to be yourself in all environments?
00:53:55
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it, I think it started at home.
00:53:59
Speaker 2: I mean, I think my mama told me like, you send me everybody else in the world is taken. So, you know what I mean? It's okay to be yourself because you can't beat him. And I think that got me out of the mindset of competing and, with other individuals and, you know, focusing on myself.
00:54:16
Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean? Growing up, it was hard. You feel me?
00:54:19
Speaker 2: Cause it's like, you know, you might see somebody come to school. They got all the J's and hell of shit. It's like, damn, I want them Jordans and hell of shit, but that ain't, that ain't gonna, that ain't gonna cut it for me. But the thing was, no matter how much I thought about it, if I was in that position, um, My position didn't change. I still had to come to school with these Payless shoe store shoes on. And the thing is, I had to make it work with what I had. And I made shit work with what I had. So I look in the mirror and I'm comfortable with the individual that I see. Like, I enjoy that nigga. Like, I really, really enjoy it. Like, I like that nigga. Like, I see the world of him and I appreciate him. And what that started to do is that started to play, you feel me, that you got to be delusional a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
00:55:12
Speaker 3: A lot bit. Not even a little.
00:55:14
Speaker 1: A lot.
00:55:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:55:15
Speaker 1: Well, a lot a bit.
00:55:16
Speaker 2: And in believing that, like, you know what I mean? The thing is, I know that you're going to have some ups. You're going to have some downs. You're going to have some good days. You're going to have some bad days. And no matter what, like, giving up is not an option.
00:55:33
Speaker 1: You feel me, though? Curring up.
00:55:35
Speaker 2: That's not an option. So pushing through and continuing to fight. I like to fight.
00:55:42
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
00:55:42
Speaker 2: We don't fight. We don't fight to come out on the other side. You feel me? And I mean, I take them all the same way. Like, You feel me, though? The bad days, all right, cool. How are we going to make this shit better? The good days, okay, how are we going to make this shit better? The great days, okay, how do we go and make these days better? Like, you feel me? And then it just gets to a point where it's like every time that I wake up and I get an opportunity to go and, you know, take on the world or, you know what I mean.
00:56:14
Speaker 1: Take on that day, it's like.
00:56:16
Speaker 2: I'm blessed to have that opportunity because I know a lot of individuals who just wish that they could. And I mean, you know, I'm not sure if you've seen it, but we talked about it.
00:56:25
Speaker 1: On Andre Ward.
00:56:29
Speaker 2: Is that, you know, I mean, I just recently went to go see Chris Johnson and it's like, you know, he just say he just want the opportunity to, you know, move his hand.
00:56:39
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:56:39
Speaker 2: Don't give his, give his family a hug again. And it's like, if I wake up and I get that opportunity to do that, like, nigga, It could be way worse for me.
00:56:49
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:56:49
Speaker 2: And then, you know, I got some other shit going for me. Like, you feel me? I be busting hella jokes, hella fun, having hella fun and shit. You know what I'm talking about? Handsome than a motherfucker. Be chilling.
00:56:59
Speaker 1: I ain't tripping off of shit. You know what I'm talking about? My mama good. You feel me, though? Grandma good. You feel me, though?
00:57:06
Speaker 2: The loved ones is solid. It's like, nigga, you got something to smile for. Like, It's okay, bro. It's okay. Some bad days got to happen, but take them the same way you take the good days. Keep on rolling and look for a way to make them opportunities a little bit better.
00:57:22
Speaker 4: I love that.
00:57:23
Speaker 3: He gave us so much.
00:57:24
Speaker 4: You gave, you gave a sermon right there. Um, I want to go back to that. You said you went to see Chris Johnson. What was that experience like?
00:57:31
Speaker 2: I mean, realistically, because it's like, you know, you play, you play this, uh, you play this game in your mind before you actually, you know, go in there to see him. It's like, because you know, like what the situation is, but then it's like, well, do, do I be, do I be me?
00:57:53
Speaker 1: Do I be, you know, sympathetic? Do I, you know, am I down? Am I sad?
00:57:59
Speaker 2: Do I, and it's like, you, you just don't know until you walk in there. And then it's like, it's like, okay, You hear, bro, like you hear. And then, you know, the way that he communicates is through the eye situation. And it's like, you know, he's still him.
00:58:26
Speaker 1: Which brings it out of you.
00:58:29
Speaker 2: And being able to do that, I mean, and have that interaction, you know, with him, it's like, yeah.
00:58:35
Speaker 1: Nigga, you still in there, bro. Like, what's happening? You feel me?
00:58:39
Speaker 2: So it gives you a sense of, like, of hope. You know what I'm talking about? But it also put on your mind, like, you know what I mean? Because everybody had that situation, like, you know, that couldn't be me. But I'm looking at somebody who did it at the highest level, And I see that as him. And I know that he probably had a mindset or a thought process like that before, which is another reason why I try and live and take every opportunity and and maximize it to the to the best of my ability every chance that i get as well but yeah i mean it was it was it was a hard situation to go into when i ain't gonna hold you like lindale white uh Lavelle Hawkins and Quentin and even Pac-Man. You know, being able to holler at them through the situation because, you know what I mean, that was my pipeline to meeting him.
00:59:38
Speaker 1: So, You know what I mean?
00:59:41
Speaker 2: Just having the conversations with him and everybody kind of have the same kind of feeling like, you know, I ain't know how to, I ain't know how I was going to rock. And then as soon as I get in there and we back to busting jokes, just like it was.
00:59:52
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, all right, nigga.
00:59:54
Speaker 2: I mean, because nigga, you don't, you don't want to fuck up that opportunity.
00:59:57
Speaker 1: And it's like, once you know, you are, yeah, I did that shit.
01:00:00
Speaker 3: Right.
01:00:01
Speaker 2: And then, you know, just being able to see bread, like, you know, look him in his eyes and know that he can, he can feel this. Like, that shit is special. And it puts you on another, in another mindset of living. And I'm appreciative of shit that before I would have, you know, might have took for granted.
01:00:22
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you how you felt when you left, because what you said is very honest. In any situation, it doesn't have to be Chris Johnson's situation, but when someone is dealing with, when they're on borrowed time and you know that they won't be around, there is this uncomfortable way of how we try to communicate with those people. I'm dealing with that with myself right now with one of my family members. And in my way, I'm like, well, how do I do it? What do I do? I think it's odd that the person who is actually dying and or sick has to make us feel better before we can relax, which is really a crazy dynamic. How would you describe your friendship with Chris before and now?
01:01:09
Speaker 2: Oh, man, the thing is, like, what I realized that at running back, like, it's a real small community of running backs, especially back in our day, because it was just like, you know, now you kind of got running back by committee. So, you know, it's more running backs that share time that actually get to do their thing. But back then, you know, you had to be a workhorse. And the thing was, I mean, I... The only way that I could describe it is like you had some running backs and then you had some niggas that played running backs.
01:01:45
Speaker 4: Wait, what's the difference? That was a nigga that.
01:01:48
Speaker 1: Played running backs. You know what I'm saying? It's just certain isms. You had a different type of lingo when it came to it.
01:01:55
Speaker 3: But you know what he's saying. She knows exactly what you're saying.
01:02:00
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear him explain it.
01:02:02
Speaker 2: And then this was, like, you see what I mean? Like, he was, like, one of them ones. So it's, like, every time we done got an opportunity to, like, put it together, it was, like, it wasn't like it was no football shit. Football was probably the least thing we talked about. You feel me? But it was more so, like, yeah, man, hold on.
01:02:21
Speaker 1: You feel me? We feel it.
01:02:22
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, we don't do like that. But, you know, our relationship really got, you know what I mean? Because I think it was.
01:02:33
Speaker 2: The first Pro Bowl that I got to go to, I think they played in the playoffs. It was either the playoffs or the last game of the season. And he was one of the running backs that was going to the Pro Bowl. And in that game, he ended up spraining his ankle.
01:02:53
Speaker 1: So you feel me?
01:02:54
Speaker 2: When he did that and he declined after playing it, then I was the next running back. So I got bumped up to go to the Pro Bowl. And I just remember Quentin hit me like, yeah, man, this nigga CJ wanted to holler at you. So I'm like, hey, bro, I appreciate you fucking with me. Like, man, you know, because you could have still went, but you wouldn't have been able to play. He like, man, once they told me that even if I don't play just because I was the running back that got picked to play in the Pro Bowl, that I'ma still get my check so it's all good I'm like well shit I appreciate it bro you feel me and then it's like that's when you like that's when you know like oh yeah I'm dealing with a nigga nigga so that shit was solid though man but you know what I mean just the.
01:03:35
Speaker 3: Two or one cause once again the question is when it's one when it's one versus two versus.
01:03:41
Speaker 1: Two like what's the you official official Okay, okay, all right.
01:03:45
Speaker 4: Just like you, single, single.
01:03:47
Speaker 3: I'm not single, single. Oh, you're not single, single, but single, single.
01:03:49
Speaker 4: It's desert.
01:03:49
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not the desert.
01:03:51
Speaker 1: She just brought you back to Desert Storm, baby.
01:03:52
Speaker 3: Hold on. She tried to put me in Desert Storm, and I'm like, well, hold on. Hold the phone.
01:03:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you feel me?
01:04:03
Speaker 4: No, we got you. Listen, we know you got to run, but before you get out of here, explain to the people, and hold it up again if need be. People will see it. Explain to us what Beast 510 is about.
01:04:15
Speaker 2: Beast Mode 510? So, man, look, Beast Mode 510 is the... So, like I was telling them earlier, like, you know what I mean? This is more so like... You know what I mean? Because we doing some shit in there. You know what I mean? Tackling some problems. Got gentrification going on through Oakland. You feel me, though? Motherfucker come buying up, doing all kind of weird ass shit.
01:04:37
Speaker 1: Got some of his tenants doing something strange for a little piece of change. You know what I mean?
01:04:43
Speaker 2: All kind of little shit. And you feel me? I ain't really feeling that. So, I mean, you know, this was just the kickoff just to introduce the super niggas. See, right now, he's just a nigga. doing what niggas should do within our communities to take care of our shit.
01:04:59
Speaker 1: You feel me?
01:05:01
Speaker 2: But then I'm going to just say like this, I'm putting it out there in the atmosphere right now. But in that next, in that next book, then yeah, he going super nigga. And I think he going to.
01:05:11
Speaker 1: Be, he going to be, he going to be taking on some, some problems.
01:05:15
Speaker 3: He buying back the blocks?
01:05:17
Speaker 1: Man, you feel me? Like Mike Epps, like Ward Dunn, you feel me, though?
01:05:23
Speaker 2: And any other individual that I miss that go back to their neighborhoods and go buy property and putting their people in better positions.
01:05:32
Speaker 3: That's right.
01:05:32
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, this is this is a you know, I mean, for me, it's a real good thing because, you know, I mean, when I was growing up, like I wasn't into reading. And, I mean, this is an opportunity for you to, you know what I mean, especially if you're not a reader, to pick up something fun, you know what I mean, to read. And it's going to give you a little bit of background education at the same time as well as some comedy.
01:05:55
Speaker 1: And, you know, I got a co-star in this motherfucker, which is my mama. You feel me?
01:06:00
Speaker 4: Oh, you know I love your mama.
01:06:03
Speaker 1: She crazy as hell. And she crazy as hell in this book, too.
01:06:06
Speaker 2: But, you know, she doing her thing in the book. But, I mean, you know, to me, it's one of those situations where it's like, if you not into reading books, This will give you an opportunity to pick something up and get your mind wrapped around it. Because, I mean, you know, the knowledge is so cliche, but it's the truth. Knowledge is the power, man. And I think, I mean, they say if you want to hide something from a nigga, put it in a book. And it's just one of them opportunities to open up your mind to something different.
01:06:38
Speaker 1: To where we don't have niggas opening up books.
01:06:41
Speaker 4: I'm all for that. And we've learned so much.
01:06:43
Speaker 3: I love him so much.
01:06:44
Speaker 4: I know.
01:06:45
Speaker 3: If you want to hide something.
01:06:46
Speaker 4: Put it in a book. But in this book, you're going to learn something. You're going to learn something for sure. You're going to learn something. We have learned, don't be Desert Storm out here. We have learned, don't be Desert Storm out here, that there is a difference between a nigga, a nigga nigga, and a super nigga.
01:07:00
Speaker 3: Is this a, what is this? You got a sword? What was that you just pulled out? Is that a sword?
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, you know what I mean? And then I have my little, you feel me?
01:07:12
Speaker 4: Okay, I see.
01:07:13
Speaker 3: I'm going back to Game of Thrones. What are we doing?
01:07:16
Speaker 1: You feel me?
01:07:16
Speaker 2: Look, instead of knighting them how you do like this, when you do shoulder to shoulder, I'm niggering niggas. You feel me? And you got to go right to left.
01:07:29
Speaker 4: You got to go right to left.
01:07:31
Speaker 1: You got to go right to left. You know what I'm saying?
01:07:34
Speaker 3: Why right to left as opposed to left to right?
01:07:37
Speaker 1: You said, why right to left?
01:07:39
Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
01:07:39
Speaker 1: Because fuck that. I'm making all rights. Okay. It's on site. You see what I mean?
01:07:46
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
01:07:47
Speaker 1: I'm making all rights.
01:07:49
Speaker 3: I'm making all rights.
01:07:50
Speaker 1: I'm making all rights. Even if it ain't right, I'm making all rights. I love you. I heard that. And even if it was wrong, I'm going to make it right. Fuck it.
01:08:00
Speaker 3: I know that's right.
01:08:01
Speaker 1: Fuck it. We own one. We own one.
01:08:04
Speaker 4: Well, Marshawn, thank you. Cause you, man, you are one of the most incredible people I've ever met. Cause you are always you and your energy is good, man. I, I literally never run into you when you in a bad mood, man. I just, the positivity just, just oozes off of you. And so good luck with this graphic novel. We're going to be watching on the big screen. Cause I know you in the Madden movie. Everybody copping cigars.
01:08:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. You forgot about that?
01:08:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get so many checks right now, you done forgot where they all coming from.
01:08:32
Speaker 2: See, I ain't forgot the checks, but the work, yeah. We do the work and forget about it.
01:08:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that's right. Do the work and forget about it. All right, you take care, my friend.
01:08:41
Speaker 1: Do the work and forget about it. I appreciate you, everybody. Y'all have a blessed night.
01:08:45
Speaker 3: We appreciate you. You are a superstar. Thanks for coming on Flagrant and Funny.
01:08:49
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. And do not be Desert Storm, baby.
01:08:52
Speaker 3: I will not. I promise. I take this oath. Knight me right now.
01:08:56
Speaker 4: That's right.
01:08:57
Speaker 3: Right to left.
01:08:58
Speaker 4: Knight me right now. Go Desert Storm. Flagrant and Funny is an iHeart Women's Sports production.
01:09:05
Speaker 3: Producers are Michael Coscarelli and Buffy Gorilla. Our editor is Michael Coscarelli. Our executive producer is Jesse Katz. And this show is hosted by us, Jemele Hill and Gary Champion.