FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 3 November 2026

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Speaker 1: Come and join the team on 5AA.
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Speaker 2: Can I just bet that I hope all the horses have a good time?
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Speaker 3: Knockdown, Bill 2, with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
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Speaker 4: Live from Highmarsh Square, it's 5AA Breakfast. Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
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Speaker 1: Nine after six, good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday on 5AA Breakfast, the most famous Tuesday of the year. It is Melbourne Cup Day in Australia.
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Speaker 5: I thought you were going to say interest rates.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no. We're not going to mention interest rates today. Zapped of the intrigue about what's going to happen, knowing the outcome is only going to hurt people with a mortgage, we can give it a wide berth, I think. We might talk about it briefly, briefly a little bit later, but we don't need to labour the point because in his absence, I'm happy to carry on the David Penberthy tradition of noting interest the significance of Melbourne Cup Day beyond a day for race enthusiasts today.
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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: This is, on the David Penberthy calendar, our long-time listeners know what I'm about to say, but if you're joining us for the first time early, This is the end, officially, of the productive part of 2026. So congratulations. Congratulations. The productive part of 2026 is over. We got here. And from this day forward, it is officially the beginning of the month or couple of months of wind down. Bludging. We're officially, we're bludging. Yeah, that's right. Or at least working up to a bludge.
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Speaker 5: Getting towards summer holidays.
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Speaker 1: You're not at your productive best. If you're firing on all cylinders, you're a few cylinders down from this day forth. It starts this afternoon when people take it off. Okay, great. And it peaks back up again at Australia Day. Deal. So as we go down, we lull back to being productive in Australia Day. It is the festive season now, officially in Australia. I'll sign up to that. That's always been our philosophy. We've tried to stretch it out, but it's hard to find another market that's better than Melbourne Cup Day.
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Speaker 5: So you'll hear us from 7 o'clock tomorrow?
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Speaker 1: Really mailing it in. Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, just cut out the first hour. Patty just said something. I didn't hear it, but I think it was probably for our benefit. Coming up on the program this morning, get it around that, Phil Currie will join us from Canberra. Rates might get a mention there against the backdrop of government spending that is not looking like it's being reined in at a rate that at very least the government had planned. NDIS looking at you. Also coming up on the program this morning, we'll talk about the The prospect of compulsory council voting. Compulsory voting. It would seem this is one of those discussions where the cure in most people's minds is worse than the disease. Because it's pretty obvious what would fix the problem with councils that don't reflect the electorate. Forcing the electorate to participate in the process.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Nobody seems to want that. Or do they? We'll find out a little bit later in the morning. We're interested in your thoughts there. On that, we're going to speak with Mark Hoffmeyer, who is the best in the business. He flies planes, big and small, right around the world, does international routes from Adelaide and elsewhere. He is great to talk to about aviation matters, and we'll ask him what he's managed to glean about that horrific crash that happened in Florida. We were on the air when it happened. Around 7.30 yesterday, the first images started to come through. We were trying to make sense of it then. People still are. Mark Hoffmeyer, after 6.30, will be able to work it out for us. How are you, Stace?
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Speaker 5: I'm good.
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Speaker 1: Are you energised by the revelation that the productive part of the year is now over?
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Speaker 5: That's excited me, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Are you excited about drawing out Melbourne Cup horses?
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Speaker 5: Sure, yes. I've got the little bowl here with all the names. We're going to do a breakfast sweep.
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Speaker 1: So if you missed out on Sam and Ned's sweep, we've got a sweep for you this morning. We've got $ 100 worth of Sam Test seafood to give away as well. There you go.
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Speaker 8: Good.
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Speaker 1: So pick a horse, win fish is the motto this morning. It sounds positively biblical. So over the course of the morning, we'll do it in different bits. You just need to be the first caller through. We'll give you a horse, and forgive our horse pronunciation. We are not horse racing experts, unless you're secretly a big horse racing person.
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Speaker 5: Not really, but I can get involved in a sweep.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the beauty of a sweep.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Twelve after six. I want to recount the story delicately because I don't want to job anyone in my private life. So it's funny the things you learn when you're teaching a little person about the world because you suddenly realize, difference of opinions or different understandings of everything from weather patterns to electricity. I'm getting a lot of questions about electricity at the moment that I simply cannot answer. I've realised the depth of my knowledge about how electricity works is not that deep.
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Speaker 5: You're not across the NEM and AEMO?
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Speaker 1: No, no. I don't know. I don't know why the lights turn on when we flick the switch. Really, I've realised. Alternate current, direct current, something, there's a plug in the wall. I don't know. So someone in– my daughter just recently discovered yesterday how funny the name of Daddy Longlegs is for a spider. It is funny. She's been talking about it to everyone in our family. Someone in my orbit said, well, you guys should teach her the proper name. And I'm, what? They said, well, it's a Dirty Longlegs. And I said, a what? And this adult, very adult, said– well, come on, she's getting confused. And I said, no, no, no, I think you might be confused. This is going to be a big moment for you when you Google this because you've lived a long life thinking everyone else is saying something different.
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Speaker 5: So they genuinely thought it was dirty long legs.
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Speaker 1: Genuinely thought it was a dirty long legs. So we learnt that lesson late in life and got me thinking about things that you've said or sung or Or recounted incorrectly. Things you've said incorrectly in your life. 8223 0000. You can text us on 024808 1395. I think we should give Wendy a shout out for her persistent correction of jealous v envious.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Which I have adopted. Yes, we say jealous a lot, but it's really envious. Jealous is a specific use case for a form of relationship envy.
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Speaker 8: Oh.
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Speaker 1: Where envy is what we are actually thinking of all the time about, you know, I want what that person has or I wish I had that thing that they had.
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Speaker 5: Envious of that holiday.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Jealous is really specifically that person's hanging out with my partner too much.
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Speaker 4: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I'm jealous.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Okay. Wendy, if you're up early, correct us. What is something you've said wrong? 8223 0000 or Texas on 04808 1395.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Song lyrics are good for this as well.
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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I've got a classic, a song lyric that it was when I was a kid, so you can forgive me for that, up until about the age of 10, I'd say. We had a lot of family, big Greek family.
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Speaker 10: Yes.
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Speaker 5: Big Greek family, lots of big Greek weddings. And every time the Nutbush would come on, I thought it was Nutbush kitty litter.
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Speaker 1: Nutbush kitty litter?
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Which is just a kid's perspective on life, I guess.
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Speaker 1: There's a Disney executive somewhere that's upset they haven't worked that into a film. That's excellent.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You're in the running. Let's go to Glen Osborne. Kev's called in. Morning to you, Kev.
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Speaker 11: Yes, good morning, Will and Stacey. I was on yesterday. It seems to be a habit as I drive to work. The only industry that gets busier at this time of the year is the construction and building industry. So far from it does it weigh down. Everybody sort of thinks that October, November, oh, I have to get things done.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mad rush.
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Speaker 11: You got it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: What are you working on at the moment, Kev?
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Speaker 11: I'm envious of other people in other industries about that. Have a good day.
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Speaker 1: Well done, Kev. Have a good day. Decent weather for you today, I think. Kev, we'll have a look at it very, very shortly. In Willie's weather. Oh, Willie's weather. No, we'll look at it on the Bureau website. Willie weather's not until quarter to seven. 8223 0000 or text us on 04808 1395. Things you've said wrong or you understood incorrectly. Phrases you've said wrong. Song lyrics you've gotten wrong.
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Speaker 5: We are a bit worried. We've stopped. It just became a thing in our house to when someone burped, we would say, bless you, as if they had just sneezed. So we've done that to Molly while she's been a baby. And I said to Ben the other night, We'll have to stop that because she'll go to school and she'll be blessing her burps and it will be weird to everyone else. Someone will burp and she'll go, bless you.
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Speaker 1: I like this. It's sort of a family assumption that something much more polite just happened.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going to brush over it. Bless you. It was probably a sneeze.
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Speaker 5: I said we should probably start teaching her, excuse me, not bless you because that would be weird.
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Speaker 1: That's good. I wonder how many of these things you've taken from home and wrong. My father was– always an English pedant. So I have always said the reverse. I remember the degree to which we would drive him insane because we would say, we wouldn't say, we'd get much and many wrong all the time. And we would use much for everything. And my word, it just drove him up the wall. We'd say, how much Smarties have we got? Things like that. And you'd see his head just begin to boil. We always used to say that wrong. Andrew says, not a misword, but a mistake. I once said to an Uber driver, look at the ducks, and he said, I think they're rocks. Needless to say, I wasn't wearing my glasses. Thank you, Andrew. Farmers taking issue with the season of indolence, saying farmers are at their busiest at the moment. All systems go at harvest time. All right. It's tough in 2026 to have a universally capturing rule of anything. That's true. Let's say that.
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Speaker 12: All right.
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Speaker 1: Eight minutes after six, but thank you. We take the objections. Take the objections on board. It's all part of scientific study of the universe. It's not our rule.
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Speaker 12: It's Penbo's.
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Speaker 1: Exactly right. It's Penbo's rule. And he's not here, so blame him. He might be able to articulate it a bit more universally than I just did, but that's the spirit of it.
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Speaker 3: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Home's Selwa. one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
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Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 1: 22 minutes after six, getting some good text through from admissions of things people have said wrong for far too long in their life. Pat says, as a child, I pronounced the chest of drawers wrong. As a Chester of Draws.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because we lived in Chester, England.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: That makes a Chester of Draws sounds actually more sophisticated.
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Speaker 5: I think minus the of, just Chester Draws.
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Speaker 1: Oh, sorry. A Chester is Chester Draws. A Chester Draws.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It makes sense. It's almost an Australian accent then.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Chester Draws.
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Speaker 12: Chester Draws.
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Speaker 1: Chester Draws.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so true.
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Speaker 1: Kristen North Adelaide says, my Aunt Peggy often says, I'm going to kill a bird with two stones. Aunt Peggy sounds excellent.
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Speaker 5: Uh, Kelly, when I was little, I thought the line in the song Africa by Toto was, there's nothing that a hundred men on Mars could ever do.
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Speaker 1: I think everyone sings that.
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Speaker 5: What is it?
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Speaker 1: A hundred men or more.
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Speaker 5: Could have it.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Uh, now you've got me questioning it, Kelly. I feel like that sounds right.
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Speaker 1: You just yell the Africa. You don't need to really know the lyrics. Um, uh, what's Rob saying here? Um, He said, I always, when Rob says this might not get a run, I think it probably needs a pre-read before I just read that one along.
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Speaker 10: Maybe a pre-read.
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Speaker 1: And Ian says, what do you call an Irish spider? Paddy long legs. And Ian admits, in high school, I called my shoulders soldiers.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Maybe a big imposing shoulders, Ian. I don't know.
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Speaker 5: You're carrying a lot on them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right.
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Speaker 12: All right.
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Speaker 1: Kept them coming through. Admissions of things you've said wrong or incorrectly for far too long of your life or sung incorrectly as well, I think. That's where often we go wrong. Hayden Nelson for 7 News and Sunrise is at the scene of something that is somewhat odd this morning Hayden you're at the Pat.
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Speaker 13: I should be really clear I should have told you producers I've just stuck down to Moseley Square to grab a coffee but I'm at the Pat this morning is the scene of.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Hayden, it's radio, mate. We're not going to... You're not going to go to jail.
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Speaker 13: We wouldn't have known. You know, this is one of those things you worry about on TV. You know, you don't think necessarily for radio, but just in case anyone.
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Speaker 1: Your guilty conscience is now clear, Hayden. Three Hail Marys.
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Speaker 5: Okay, let's pretend you're at the Pat. What can you see?
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Speaker 13: So if you're at the Pat right now, what you would be able to see is some tire tracks leading over the grass into the water because at about 10.30 last night, still unclear as to what's led to this, whether it was a police chase or... Whether they've been sort of tracking a car they were looking for, traffic offences, is what Safehold tells us. But at some stage, at 10.30 last night, a car has basically just sped into the pad and has become submerged in the pad of a lunger. So, of course, police have been on scene very quickly. They've managed to find that driver. He's made his way out of the water himself. He's been checked over by paramedics. that he was arrested at the scene. So it's understood he will be facing those charges for traffic offences. But they did actually ask the police divers to ensure there was no one else inside the vehicle. So whether or not he was cooperative or whether that's just a course of action for police, I still don't know yet. But they checked over the vehicle and then have now retrieved it from the water. So it's no longer submerged in the Padua Lunga, but there are still some very clear traces Tire marks on the corner of Adelphi Terrace and Carnarvon Road as well, where you can see the scene of last night's chaotic end to what was, I think, a really terrible getaway plan from this joyride.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's extraordinary. We're looking forward to seeing the pictures a little bit later. And Hayden, I think you might have made the top five this week, mate. So stay listening on Friday morning.
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Speaker 5: Enjoy the coffee.
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Speaker 9: Finally made it.
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Speaker 1: Hayden Nelson for Seven News and Sunrise. Car driving into the pad. We've had the fame of that car at the bottom of the Torrens before.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Is it the new Oban?
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Speaker 1: Is it the new Oban? The Oban for getaway drivers? Maybe. I'm just thinking it's sort of– there's nowhere where you get a long run-up in terms of a long, straight, fast drive on the pad. You're always driving adjacent to it.
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Speaker 10: Or parallel to it. Yeah, next to it.
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Speaker 1: So that requires some doing. I'm fascinated to see that a little bit later tonight and try to get a sense of the physics of that. All right, it's 26 after six. The weather for today, right now, 10.9 degrees outside, heading for a top of 23. Sunny, no rain, light winds. Pretty reasonable sort of a day to get out about and do things. Tom Renz in the 5AA Breakfast Studio with us right now. Agassi, no, it's a message. Demo clearance is on. Save on the Pajero Sport, the ASX, Triton and Outland at Nailsworth and Mawson Lakes. Morning to you, Rennie. Morning, Will.
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Speaker 10: Morning, Stacey. Big cup day. You looking forward to it? You out and about?
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Speaker 5: Not really. Not really, yeah.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 10: It's hard when you're doing brekkie radio. You're up so early.
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Speaker 1: Are you hosting things?
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Speaker 10: I'm just down the road. I'm at 2KW today.
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Speaker 12: Have fun.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, just to- Oh, food's good there.
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Speaker 1: Really good. Yeah. Sensational food.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so looking forward to it. It's an exciting day.
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Speaker 1: Do you get to enjoy it, or is it heavy going hosting-wise?
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Speaker 10: No, it's a pretty light day, to be honest.
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Speaker 14: I think most people, at most functions, and some people might be going to somewhere they're a bit more heavy, I'm not sure, but I think people just want to enjoy it. You know, maybe there might be a fashion on the field, best dressed, best fascinator, and then just enjoy each other's company.
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Speaker 5: That is a perfect men's look at women's dressing. Best fascinator.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: And that's it. And then try and back a winner. That's all people want to do.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to rain on everyone's parade on Melbourne Cup Day and do my– I just– Handicapped racing is just, to me, just the stupidest thing on planet Earth. But anyway, so shall we pick a winner among a group of horses who, in trying to work out which is the fastest, we've settled some with a lot of weight.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly. It's so hard to know. It's a lottery. I think I've been doing this for 12 or 13 years, and I don't think.
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Speaker 1: I've... It makes it more of a lottery, doesn't it?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it does.
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Speaker 14: It's really difficult, and it's a very open race this year. But for what it's worth, I'm going to go with.
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Speaker 10: Looking to put a few together. The tip I'll go with is Middle Earth, number four.
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Speaker 14: So I think that will go close today. I actually really like number 10, Goody Two Shoes as well. I had a chat to Tony McAvoy yesterday, and he was really big for this horse, number 10, Goody Two Shoes. So they're my two tips. One of them is Kieran Ma, Mark Zara's on board Middle Earth. And Kieran Marr, he's got seven runners, I think, in this. Which I think is the most ever for one trainer.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 10: So he's got seven in the race, which is amazing.
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Speaker 1: What's the total prize, Paul?
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Speaker 10: I think it's around $ 10 million.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 14: It's pretty significant. And goody two-shoes is Joseph O'Brien, 33-year-old Irish trainer. If he wins, it'll be his third Melbourne Cup. That'll make him the youngest to have ever won three. So he's trying to achieve some history. And probably the story... If people are barracking for a story, Chocolates, which is number 24, another Kieran Ma horse, Harry Coffey's on board. He broke his collarbone on the weekend. So he got past fit and he's riding.
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Speaker 1: And riding.
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Speaker 10: He's a jockey.
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Speaker 1: With a busted collarbone.
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Speaker 12: Broken collarbone.
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Speaker 7: What?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: So he doesn't want to... It's one of the favourites, so he doesn't want to lose the ride.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Something about all the bones to break. Every time I see a collarbone, I think it looks the most uncomfortable.
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Speaker 10: Yes, it wouldn't be great.
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Speaker 1: And you've been bouncing up and down and your collarbones miss a lot.
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Speaker 10: I know, I know.
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Speaker 5: So that was called shocklets.
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Speaker 1: Shocklets, yes.
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Speaker 14: So, look, if you're boxing, so a lot of people out there, they're going to say, I'm going to do a little trifecta today or a little first four, so where you try and pick the first four threats. I would box these ones for what it's worth. Number four, Middle Earth. Number 20, Point of Law. You would have seen this movie, Will. Cinderella Man, James J.
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Speaker 1: Braddock, the boxer. Yeah.
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Speaker 10: That's the name of the horse in the race today.
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Speaker 1: I was wondering where that name was from. He was the sort of Depression-era boxer.
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Speaker 10: Yes, that's right. Number 18, James J.
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Speaker 2: Braddock.
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Speaker 14: I've said number 10, Goody Two Shoes. So four, 20, 18, 10.
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Speaker 1: Rennie, we'll put you to the test and we'll see. People, if you get in our suite now, we'll be able to point out that you are Tom Rennie's horse's $ 10. 2 million kitty overall, just over $ 4 million if you come first.
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Speaker 10: For first, okay, yes, and $ 10 million for the overall.
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Speaker 1: $ 10 million for the field. And hopefully there's a whole whack of cash for some of our listeners' gamble response. Please follow Rennie's tips.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Tom.
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Speaker 12: Thanks, guys.
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Speaker 1: 27.
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Speaker 3: Some good admissions coming through on the text line of people that have misspoken and they're owning up to it and admitting things that they've.
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Speaker 4: Said incorrectly for long periods of time.
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Speaker 1: Or maybe sung incorrectly for long periods of time as well.
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Speaker 5: This one's great from Tina. A classic is the 1981 song by the Go-Go's, Our Lips Are Sealed, singing Alex the Seal.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a very different song all of a sudden.
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Speaker 5: A mistake a lot of people have made. Alex the Seal.
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Speaker 1: Alex the Seal.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Paul, cold chisel song, red, red wine and a three-day growth. I always thought it was red, red wine on the tea table.
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Speaker 15: Paul.
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Speaker 1: Paul needs to invest in better speakers.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 5: It doesn't really sound similar when I say it. Maybe when you sing it, it sounds similar.
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Speaker 1: Or maybe there's a scratch on the record that he plays it on. That one's a really hard one to explain. So let's go back to our Lips of Seal. Alex the Seal.
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Speaker 7: Mmm.
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Speaker 1: Again, there's a real Disney bent to it all of a sudden when you mishear that lyric. Thank you. Keep them coming through. 8223 0000. This is good. It's sort of everyone feels better about themselves. Everyone's got these things. 044808 1395. And maybe we can save one another from further future embarrassment in the process. Let's jump into the news cycle now. Yesterday, it was about an hour from now that people started sending us a video out of the United States of just an awful event, a Learjet with nine people on board crashing at unimaginable speed into the ground in Florida, a tragedy about which we know so much now. There's a cockpit voice recording. The transmission between the cockpit and the tower is harrowing. We're not going to play it. You don't need to hear it. It's awful. It The cause, though, is still the subject of some speculation because it hasn't been the official apparatus that goes in and investigates these things as yet. But we do know some of the elements. We know there was some ice on the wing. We know there was some turbulence and there was a storm. Mark Hoffmeyer is someone we really enjoy bringing to the conversation about everything going on in the aviation world, but his experience and expertise is as a pilot. He is the Australian and International Pilots Association spokesperson. Mark, good morning to you.
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Speaker 9: Good morning, Will. How are you, mate?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so obviously there's going to be an investigation, so we'll find out definitively. But from your perspective, when you see this awful tragedy unfold and what you understand about this type of craft, this Learjet, and the conditions in which it was flying, what do you imagine has happened here?
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Speaker 9: It's a good question. I think, like you, the audio is probably more harrowing for me, just hearing the pilots' voices. I think the challenge is there's so much information already come out, and you guys will understand this. Part of it is actually there's a lot of people doctoring things and AI and all sorts of different bits and pieces. So the challenge is trying to work out what it is. The red flags that I look at when I see this is that then you're a thunderstorm. So if they have potentially flown through a thunderstorm, what they often produce is what we call updrafts and downdrafts. They're like very fast-moving elevators of air in different directions, and that has the potential, if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, to could have a structural impact on the aircraft and actually damage the structure. And that maybe ties in with the concept of they were flying along quite well and then suddenly the aircraft has gone into an incredibly steep dive until it's hit the ground and and the pilots weren't able to recover so it could potentially be just a structural failure or as you said the air inside a thunderstorm is often a bit warmer which it's funny it actually moves the temperature into the icing range you can get a very fast build-up of ice which the de-icing systems might not be able to cope with which reduces the lift being produced by the aircraft which could have also had an impact on the aircraft's ability to fly.
00:23:34
Speaker 5: And Is ice quite heavy on a plane if it collects on the wings?
00:23:40
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's heavy, but it's actually just impacts basically the laminar flow of airflow over the wing, which actually produces the lift. So it probably doesn't make it too heavy to fall out of the sky. It actually just reduces the aircraft's ability to produce lift to stay in the air. But even that, as it got lower... potentially it starts to melt, although at the rate that it was falling, it potentially wouldn't have happened. So look, as you said, we've just got to let the investigators do the work. I think we now live in a world that's quite impatient and because we've got all these sort of Monday morning quarterbacks, everyone wants to put out sort of opinions and there's a bit of a race to have your opinion. Whereas in the past, we needed to be patient and let the investigators do their work. The interesting thing for me is going to be, the state of the flight data recordering, particularly because, as you said before, the impact is just horrendous at the speed that it's hit the ground that I guess we'll find out whether or not flight data recorders can survive that level of impact.
00:24:40
Speaker 1: All the risk factors, the red flags that you mentioned, the things you've heard, are those risks greater on smaller aircraft?
00:24:48
Speaker 9: Uh, not necessarily. I mean, aircraft, every aircraft certified to withstand certain forces in the air. Um, you know, the, the thing is that thunderstorms, when we had a few pass through Adelaide a couple of days ago, you know, they just, it's funny on the ground, you might see thunder and lightning, but above, you know, there's this huge towering clouds, um, of fast moving air in both directions. And there's just incredibly severe turbulence associated with them. And, And look, aircraft are incredibly strong and designed to withstand things, but you can still find in thunderstorms conditions that just aircraft cannot cope with, which is why we just give them a very, very wide berth in theory. That's what you try and do. But no, small aircraft should be just as strong. They do as well, some of their capabilities for de-icing maybe are not quite as sophisticated as some of the bigger airplanes, but they still do have that capability, yes. Mm-hmm.
00:25:41
Speaker 1: We'll await the outcome of that investigation, Mark, but that's great intel and great background. Really appreciate you talking about it. I know it's not easy as a pilot talking about something like this because it is bloody awful to listen to. So we appreciate you talking to us.
00:25:54
Speaker 2: All right.
00:25:54
Speaker 9: Thanks, guys. Enjoy your day.
00:25:55
Speaker 1: Good on you, Mark. Mark Hoffmeier, spokesman for the Australian International Pilots Association, based here. He's an Adelaide guy. He's a terrific bloke on that situation there and what confronted that pilot and some of the things that are of interest in the investigation that's ultimately going to come over the course of the next few months. All right, 14 minutes to seven. Coming up very shortly on 5AA Breakfast, we're going to do our very first sweep of horses for the Melbourne Cup. So be ready.
00:26:21
Speaker 5: I've got the bowl of names here.
00:26:23
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got the Copper Safe COVID Bowl.
00:26:26
Speaker 5: Oh.
00:26:28
Speaker 1: There was a weird suggestion during, I don't know if there's any science to this, COVID that it couldn't transfer over copper.
00:26:35
Speaker 13: Oh.
00:26:35
Speaker 1: So that bowl was used for all our draws during COVID.
00:26:39
Speaker 5: Lucky we're not using a pizza box.
00:26:40
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah. Absolutely right. You never heard Nicholas Spurrier say, don't touch the copper bowl, did you? Now, that's going to happen in a moment. But first, it is time for the weather. All right. 10.9 degrees outside of the city at the moment, heading for a top today of 23. This forecast is get out and do things weather. Sunny today. Light winds. There's no wind to be concerned about. The seas swell below half a metre. You can go out on your boat. I don't know what you're catching this time of year, but just go out and have a wonderful day because it's going to be beautiful. It's not too hot. There's no wind. You've got sun until about 7.30 tonight. Magnificent sort of a day today. What does the rest of the week have in store? Well, it changes a bit tomorrow. shower or two drops down to 21 the top zero to two millimeters we'll get a little bit of wind as well coming through with that system 25 to 35 k's an hour in the morning um it's a southwesterly and then a south to southwesterly late afternoon cloud clears on thursday 20 the top there 23 on friday maybe a sprinkle of rain friday but really this is not a rainy week uh this is a pretty steady weather pattern this week partly cloudy and 19 on saturday 23 on sunday And how about this? The warm weather returns Monday next week. Just missed it by that much for the weekend, but 28 on Monday of next week. So maybe we'll have some 30 days in our near future. Feels like a celebration with music underneath it, doesn't it?
00:28:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it. Especially this song.
00:28:13
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:28:13
Speaker 10: I said, baby, I just want you.
00:28:16
Speaker 9: Back and I want you to stay.
00:28:19
Speaker 1: It does make it a difficult transition to Saipol, though, so let's bring that down. 11 minutes to 7.
00:28:24
Speaker 5: Ha, ha, ha.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: Senior Constable Matt Brown joins us. We won't put a sound track under Matt. Matt, there's been a drink driver reported at Elizabeth North.
00:28:34
Speaker 2: Well, if any soundtrack, you could use a song by The Police.
00:28:37
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
00:28:38
Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
00:28:38
Speaker 1: We could do that. All right, we'll do that next time, Matt. Just make sure you don't have anything that's too outstandingly tragic to talk about.
00:28:44
Speaker 2: Just don't stand so close to me, Will. But just before midnight, police responded to reports of a single vehicle crash involving a Holden sedan on Tillshead Road at Elizabeth North. Unfortunately, there were no reports of any injuries, but the driver, a 27-year-old man from Elizabeth South, underwent a breath test, which returned a positive reading of 0.146, nearly three times the legal limit. The driver was reported for drink driving, issued a six-month loss of licence notice. He'll be summoned to appear in court at a later date. So good thing he's off the road for a while.
00:29:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely. And tell us what happened at Freeling last night, Matt. There was a serious crash there.
00:29:20
Speaker 2: That's right, Stacey. About 9pm on Monday the 2nd of November, police and emergency services were called to Mudler-Weira Road at Wasleys after reports that a Hyundai station wagon had collided with a tree. The driver and sole occupant, a 33-year-old Evanston woman, was taken to hospital. Her injuries were serious but not considered life-threatening. Road closures were in place for several hours. And there was a car fire at Mount Barker, Matt. That's right, just before 1am today. Police and fire crews responded to reports of a car fire at Paddy Hill Road. And police and fire crews attended and found a Toyota sedan ablaze in the driveway. MFS crews extinguished the fire and prevented it from spreading to the property. And police are investigating the circumstances surrounding it. So anyone with information is asked to contact Crimestoppers on 1800 333 000. All right, good stuff, Matt.
00:30:15
Speaker 1: We'll work on that police soundtrack for you for next time. Soon your constable, Matt Brown, there. From SAPOL, we've been taking your admissions for things you've said or sung incorrectly.
00:30:24
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
00:30:25
Speaker 1: After the break, we've done this G-rated version. We're going to upgrade it to maybe mature themes. All right? After the break, because we're getting a few admissions.
00:30:32
Speaker 5: That are- Yeah, we are, actually. I haven't read them out.
00:30:35
Speaker 7: I know.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: Well, there's going to be a place for it. It's Melbourne Cup Day.
00:30:38
Speaker 10: Okay?
00:30:39
Speaker 1: There are different rules. We'll do it in a moment. Fair warning. All right. Let's check traffic. One of them you haven't read that I'm going to read to you that's going to blow your mind. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota, combining iconic strength with advanced hybrid power.
00:30:55
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00:31:03
Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:31:07
Speaker 1: Five minutes to seven. If you want to be involved in our 5AA Breakfast Melbourne Cup sweep to win $ 100 worth of Samtas seafood, call in right now, 8223 0055. First six callers get a horse. We'll do it three more times over the course of the morning until we have the whole field covered. 24 horses, 24 calls. Four groups of six. That's how it's going to play out. 8223 0055. A couple of texts we haven't gotten to yet on things people hear incorrectly. The Depeche Mode song, Just Can't Get Enough, has been mentioned multiple times.
00:31:38
Speaker 5: Yes, it has.
00:31:39
Speaker 1: And sung by people who say they thought the line was, I just can't get it up. I don't know if they've been fed the wrong information there or collectively everyone's heard the wrong thing or it's some kind of Freudian phenomenon that I'm not familiar with, but there's that. Then there's this from Leighton Stace. You'll love this. Leighton, who lives in Japan, listener from Japan, often talks to us about earthquakes and calls into the regular of the program. He says, I was at, but it's just been in a Tokyo hospital after an operation and a Japanese nurse came in to check my vitals. Her English was not good. So I asked Siri, can you please fill my bottle with water? I turned around to show her the translation and a rather shocked look came over her face. I turned the phone back and then understood why. It read, can you please fill my butthole with water?
00:32:29
Speaker 5: That would be the first time a nurse has been asked that one.
00:32:35
Speaker 1: I quickly retyped the question and again showed her and she laughed. Probably told my workmates after. How embarrassing for me, though. Technology's this close to being wonderful. It's this close.
00:32:46
Speaker 5: That poor nurse thinking, this Australian man.
00:32:50
Speaker 1: These people are animals. Let's give away some horses, shall we? First six callers through to start the sweep. And can we just make an all-encompassing apology to start with? Because Stacey and I don't know anything about horses. So we're going to say the names.
00:33:07
Speaker 5: We'll try our best.
00:33:08
Speaker 1: We're all in this together. We're committed to accuracy, but on this we're a bit out of our depth. Karen in West Lakes, good morning.
00:33:15
Speaker 12: Good morning.
00:33:16
Speaker 1: All right, Karen, what have we got for Karen?
00:33:17
Speaker 5: Karen got number 18, James J. Braddock, which was one of Rennie's tips.
00:33:22
Speaker 1: Yep, James J.
00:33:23
Speaker 12: Braddock.
00:33:23
Speaker 5: All right, Karen.
00:33:24
Speaker 1: Named after the boxer.
00:33:25
Speaker 5: Karen, number 18.
00:33:25
Speaker 1: All right, Karen, good luck to you. Kay in Woodville is on the line. What have we got for Kay?
00:33:30
Speaker 5: Kay, you have number 21, Strictly Business.
00:33:33
Speaker 1: Feel good about that, Kay?
00:33:35
Speaker 5: Not really.
00:33:36
Speaker 13: I think 20 was one that Tom read.
00:33:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right.
00:33:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, you are right.
00:33:40
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Bronwyn in Keswick. Bronwyn, good morning.
00:33:43
Speaker 5: Good morning.
00:33:44
Speaker 12: Good morning.
00:33:45
Speaker 5: Well, Bronwyn, you are inspired by David Penbethy this morning. You've got number 14, the soul of Spain.
00:33:52
Speaker 1: Oh, that sounds wonderful.
00:33:53
Speaker 6: Thank you.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: Might be a good omen, Bronwyn.
00:33:55
Speaker 5: Maybe as a breakfast show, we should all be backing number 14.
00:33:58
Speaker 16: Yeah.
00:33:58
Speaker 5: Soul of Spain.
00:33:59
Speaker 1: Andy in Henley Beach.
00:34:02
Speaker 5: You have number eight, wine, dark sea.
00:34:05
Speaker 1: Are you a horse racing person, Andy?
00:34:08
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:34:08
Speaker 10: There you go.
00:34:09
Speaker 1: What do you think of number eight?
00:34:13
Speaker 2: I'll let you know when it passes, of course.
00:34:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully not waiting too long. Mark in Happy Valley, good morning to you.
00:34:19
Speaker 17: Morning, guys.
00:34:21
Speaker 5: Mark, you've got number 12, Hopewell Rock.
00:34:25
Speaker 1: All right. Hopewell for you, Mark. And the last one is Lisette.
00:34:29
Speaker 8: Yes.
00:34:29
Speaker 1: In Walkley Heights.
00:34:31
Speaker 5: Number 19, Kizzle Yar?
00:34:35
Speaker 1: We don't know the name of that one, Lisette, but hopefully we get to learn it because it wins for your sake. Perfect.
00:34:40
Speaker 13: Thank you.
00:34:41
Speaker 1: Good on you, Lisette. Thank you. That's our first six in the running. to win now Melbourne Cup sweep, $ 100 worth of Sam Tass seafood on this Tuesday morning.
00:34:51
Speaker 3: The top seven before seven.
00:34:53
Speaker 1: Now we have a top seven before seven. Greatest horse names.
00:34:57
Speaker 5: Pat just said, this is all Jess.
00:34:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, does not fill me with confidence.
00:35:01
Speaker 5: He is absolving himself of any responsibility. He wants nothing to do with this.
00:35:05
Speaker 1: That said, if people... If people get it right, if people love it, it's all Jess.
00:35:10
Speaker 5: It's all Jess.
00:35:10
Speaker 1: Okay, number seven.
00:35:11
Speaker 10: Who shot the barman at the 600?
00:35:13
Speaker 1: Sartorius under extreme pressure. Second from Do You Remember? Ridden along on the inside.
00:35:18
Speaker 5: But it's all, who shot the barman.
00:35:21
Speaker 1: At the 200? Who shot the barman at number seven? Spot number six. Inside, it's Feline fell in fourth. In the middle of the track is.
00:35:32
Speaker 1: Coming down to the final 16th, it is Stan Pat in front. Arrgh! In front, coming down to the wire. They're coming to the finish, and it's all.
00:35:42
Speaker 1: Arrgh! What was that? That's not real, is it? It's 100% real. The horse's name is A-R-R-R-R-R.
00:35:50
Speaker 17: Arrgh!
00:35:53
Speaker 1: Oh, boy. I think R's done harshly to be in number six spot.
00:35:56
Speaker 5: Well done to that caller for getting into it.
00:35:58
Speaker 1: In the number five spot is our own personal 5AA Breakfast favourite, News Girl, named after Stacey Lee, of course. It won $ 331, 800. Should I get a share of that? I think you should. Yeah. Including $ 8, 000 worth of bonuses as well.
00:36:14
Speaker 5: What does a horse do to get a bonus?
00:36:16
Speaker 1: I don't know. It means it's KPIs, I guess. In the number three spot.
00:36:20
Speaker 10: Dreamer got through on the inside.
00:36:21
Speaker 1: Supercharged. Quickly beaten.
00:36:23
Speaker 14: Horsey McHorseface is coming.
00:36:25
Speaker 10: Horsey McHorseface and the big Dreamer.
00:36:27
Speaker 6: Horsey.
00:36:28
Speaker 10: Horsey McHorseface beats the big Dreamer.
00:36:30
Speaker 1: Horsey McHorseface. Number four, sorry. This is number three.
00:36:33
Speaker 10: Here comes Ethereal down the outside.
00:36:35
Speaker 1: Followed by Karazi and then may the horse be with you. May the horse be with you.
00:36:39
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
00:36:40
Speaker 1: Uh and uh number two.
00:36:41
Speaker 15: As they turn for home the leader is do re mi fa sol la ti do sweet over melissa second on the inside not a peep is third they're in the final for long it's do re mi fa sol la ti do.
00:37:02
Speaker 1: Who won by a half a dozen lengths No, that guy did well. Why do American horse callers sound like AI? They're weird, aren't they?
00:37:09
Speaker 10: They do.
00:37:10
Speaker 1: And number one. What a great call. A great racehorse as well. And you know what? Great seven before seven. Jess, well done. If anyone's got a suggestion for other great horse names that should be on the list, let us know. 8223 0000 or text us on 024808 1395.
00:37:35
Speaker 3: Knock down. Build two. With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
00:37:43
Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:37:48
Speaker 1: Seven after seven. Good morning to you if you're joining us for the first time on this. The 3rd of November. A Tuesday, a big one. We're going to get a rate rise today. We're going to have a Melbourne Cup race. One of our listeners is going to win $ 100 worth of Samtas seafood because we have a sweep. Six horses. Already gone. There are three more opportunities over the course of the morning for you to be part of the sweep. Stay listening. That's coming up. But it's going to be a beautiful day. If you are going to a lunch, if you are catching up with friends, whatever you're doing for the race or maybe just going about your day, sublimely ignorant that there is a big race going on today because it's not in your wheelhouse. It's going to be a beautiful day. Not much wind. Great day to get out and do things. Spectacular sort of a spring day. Not too hot to do anything either.
00:38:27
Speaker 8: No.
00:38:28
Speaker 5: You don't want it to be too hot on a day like this. Melbourne Cup day.
00:38:32
Speaker 1: When you're dressed up.
00:38:33
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:38:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets uncomfortable very quickly.
00:38:34
Speaker 5: I always feel for men in suits.
00:38:35
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just the worst.
00:38:36
Speaker 5: Because women, you can just wear the dress, but men, you've got to wear all the layers.
00:38:39
Speaker 1: I had to go to a function last week, or the week before, when it was one of the really hot days. It was a Channel 7 function, and all the blokes there looked like they had just jumped in a pool in their suits. Like, at some point in time, it's just unbecoming.
00:38:54
Speaker 11: Yes.
00:38:54
Speaker 1: It's not an attractive look. I don't know why we persist with it.
00:38:57
Speaker 5: There's no alternate classy option.
00:39:00
Speaker 1: There isn't.
00:39:00
Speaker 5: You can't rock up in the Hawaiian shirt.
00:39:02
Speaker 1: Come on, men. Haven't we solved this issue? We live in Australia. Darwin casual, I guess, is the closest.
00:39:09
Speaker 5: Rock up in your thongs.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: Thongs with an open neck shirt, button down too low. Maybe that's the answer.
00:39:15
Speaker 5: We are getting a bit of feedback on our top seven before seven.
00:39:18
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
00:39:19
Speaker 5: Quite a few people have said we missed Hoof Hearted. And one that's been suggested quite a few times on the text line is why kick a Moo Cow? A famous Australian racehorse whose name is a phonetic play on a New Zealand rural catchphrase. It's spelt– I'm not going to spell it out because that would be weird on radio, but it's spelt in a sort of New Zealand Waikiki accent.
00:39:47
Speaker 1: Waikikamukau.
00:39:48
Speaker 5: Waikikamukau, but pronounced like that.
00:39:51
Speaker 1: That's excellent. But it's not, I mean, people aren't too upset with the top seven. I think that's a win for Jess. The top seven horse names of all time. Well done. Phil Currie in the nation's capital after 7.30. Lots to talk about with Phil. Our sweep, we've got two versions of the sweep coming up this hour. We will cross to Flemington as well. Eddie Summerfield for 3AW. And the weather forecast, the proper with the Bureau, in case you missed it. with our musical rendition at 6.45, the 7.25 Weather Bureau, the new home of the Weather Bureau, is coming up very shortly. We're having fun this morning. We talked about David Penberthy's theory about that the year begins to wind down officially on Melbourne Cup Day and doesn't wind up again until Australia Day. We've got the sweep and there's a festive feeling in the air. There's a few things news-wise that we just want to address here at 7.05, though, that are knocking around. And one of them, I think, just needs to be marked. There's nothing we can do about it, but we need to always talk about these things just to register, I think, our rightful contempt about how the most serious offenses in this country are handled. I'm talking about the Sylvie case, uh, in WA, Craig Sylvie, uh, the author of the Jasper Jones books, uh, beloved children's author who has been found guilty, uh, of, uh, uh, The distribution of Category 1 child abuse materials.
00:41:05
Speaker 5: Which is the worst category.
00:41:06
Speaker 1: The worst category. It's a term that carries– there's a 10-year charge is the maximum for distribution, seven years for possession. Craig Silvey has been jailed for seven months. So those two individual– Seven months. Two individual offences, a 10-year and a 7-year. Now, what does Sean Fuse tell us? They are for the imagined worst version. What do we know about this case? What we know about this case is this features the worst level of child abuse materials. That's the judge who said that. What else do we know? We know that there are text exchanges online with people that I will not read on air.
00:41:41
Speaker 15: No.
00:41:41
Speaker 1: Because I can't imagine anything more vile. I just can't. Maybe there is. And maybe judges have to allow for things that are beyond the imagination of the normal person. But how the hell... This grub can get seven months and be eligible for parole in three and a half months.
00:41:57
Speaker 5: In three and a half months. How is that a deterrent?
00:42:00
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not.
00:42:02
Speaker 5: People have holidays longer than that.
00:42:04
Speaker 1: Three and a half months. So out by February. Eligible for parole by March. Just outrageous. And look, I won't describe it as surprising because Scott from Modbry will rightly text in and say, Will, you've got to stop saying you're surprised. This is how these things are handled.
00:42:21
Speaker 5: Yes, it is.
00:42:23
Speaker 1: But we need to mark the fact that it's unacceptable. And as a community, we find this is the most repulsive behaviour imaginable, yet it is met with a sentence that suggests it's a minor misdemeanour.
00:42:36
Speaker 5: I can't believe even the maximum sentence is so low.
00:42:39
Speaker 4: 10 years.
00:42:40
Speaker 1: Distribution of child abuse materials.
00:42:42
Speaker 5: 10 years is the maximum you can get.
00:42:45
Speaker 1: Children are abused because a marketplace is created by the people that distribute the materials. The link is clear. The link between the sentence and the offending is not. It blows my mind. We need to mark it this morning. And, yes, we've had a festive and fun morning, but we can't let the morning go by without addressing that absolute bloody disgrace of a sentence. Now, you've got a bit of an update, Stace, this morning on the potential for the AI cars driving around. You've long been asking questions of the state government. Are you guys going to get involved in this like the New South Wales state government and haven't got a definitive answer as yet?
00:43:21
Speaker 5: No. Until yesterday, we sort of got a definitive answer from the Premier. I'll let you listen to it and– see what you think about it. So this was after, obviously we know about the Adelaide City Council's AI fining car. It's called ParkSafe. And then yesterday we learnt via the advertiser, there are a number of other councils, Burnside, Mitcham, Salisbury, all planning to introduce their own version of this type of car that would drive around, use cameras and AI technology to fine people who are are A, doing the wrong thing, or who are B, doing the right thing, but it caught them in a moment where it looked like they were doing the wrong thing. In New South Wales, the state government got involved, changed the legislation, so these things are not allowed to be used. We've been asking the government. We haven't had a response until yesterday the Premier was asked. Can I just ask you about the AI Council Trust? They're looking to expand into other suburbs around the city.
00:44:14
Speaker 8: Do you think the government needs to look at that and whether there is legislation that needs to.
00:44:19
Speaker 5: Be in place to govern that?
00:44:22
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:44:22
Speaker 5: Is that something you're going to look into?
00:44:26
Speaker 12: Potentially.
00:44:28
Speaker 5: So do you think the government needs to look into it?
00:44:30
Speaker 12: Yes.
00:44:31
Speaker 5: Is it something you're going to look into? Potentially.
00:44:35
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:44:36
Speaker 5: It's more than what we've had so far.
00:44:38
Speaker 1: Was that– I mean, look, we're extrapolating from two single-word answers. It sounds like the first answer was his personal view.
00:44:46
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:44:47
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:44:48
Speaker 1: Second view was, well, hang on, where are we at with that? Maybe we're nowhere.
00:44:51
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:44:52
Speaker 1: We're a long way from having a position or something sophisticated to say about it. But it sounds like– I suspect they will at some point.
00:44:59
Speaker 5: I think there's hope on the horizon.
00:45:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a better way of phrasing it.
00:45:02
Speaker 5: For the many of you who texted in to us yesterday who were concerned about this, it sounds like there is some hope that the government at some stage will look into it. And if they have a different line and would like to get in touch, I've been asking for a week for a government response. We'd love one. Let us know what you're thinking.
00:45:21
Speaker 1: Is that a fight they want to have with councils? Well, they picked New South Wales. We'll wait with interest for a more definitive response here. Qatar Airways and Emirates, this front page of the Tizer this morning, are cutting back their services from each day to five nights a week, despite a 20% increase in passenger traffic through Adelaide. Because of, they were saying, the surging fuel prices, I imagine there's a little bit of perhaps from some people too to fly through the Middle East at the moment that would be fitting into that as well. That's a surprise given how well those routes are doing commercially or certainly we've been told in the past. But if you're trying to book Qatar Airways or Emirates out of Adelaide through to Europe, you might find it a little bit more expensive or a little bit more difficult to do so. So seven days a week to five flights a week. That's coming very, very soon. Front page of the advertiser this morning.
00:46:14
Speaker 5: This is why we have inflation where we have it. Because, sure, going on a holiday, a lot of people can't consider that at the moment. But for those who can, the flights are in short supply. And when you can get them, they're expensive. So everyone is spending more.
00:46:29
Speaker 1: And they're about to get more expensive. And just I thought for everyone who's ever had anything in their family that has been sold prematurely and with the benefit of hindsight, they say, well, that would have been nice to have an heirloom, something that was given away at a a garage sale or you've always there are great stories in south australia everyone's got a grandfather who had a fishing plot of land on the fleurier peninsula that they gave away for a carton of beer 40 years ago that's now worth 1.5 million dollars you always hear those sorts of stories yeah well don't despair because even the experts get it wrong uh at a story out of the the u.s um solomon r guggenheim the guggenheim museum of course most famously the billionaire collector of artworks, had a whole bunch of these paintings called Vasily Kandinsky paintings. They said after he died, his estate said, we have too many of these. So they started selling them and they sold 50 paintings for a combined 536,000 pounds, about $ 1. 5 million. One of those paintings is about to go under the hammer again today. I'm going to say this incorrectly because I'm not an art aficionado, but the Patonte Enkin painting. which in 1964 was sold for around $ 62, 000. It's expected to break the all-time record for an artwork today and be sold for somewhere between $ 60 and $ 80 million. So if you've ever had anything in your house that you've sold and you have regrets, just know that even the people that are expert in doing this get it wrong from time to time.
00:47:56
Speaker 4: Wow.
00:47:56
Speaker 1: That is in the space of one lifetime, $ 60, 000 to $ 60 million.
00:48:00
Speaker 5: I feel like I need to see this artwork. I'm always so intrigued. at what expensive art is because art is so subjective.
00:48:09
Speaker 1: Totally, yeah. These people who know art more than anyone said, we've got a whole bunch of these. We've got too many here. We need to sell a few. The few contain one that's going to become the most priced artwork probably in history. So if you've had it in your family, don't despair. Everyone gets it wrong from time to time. All right, we're going to check traffic and we'll come back with more, including the Weather Bureau in just a moment. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota. Combining iconic strength with advanced hybrid power.
00:48:35
Speaker 12: Morning.
00:48:37
Speaker 10: Knockdown.
00:48:37
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00:48:45
Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:48:50
Speaker 1: 22 minutes after 7. Time for suite number 2. $ 100 worth of Semtas seafood. 8223 0055 is the number. Stacey's got the Copper Safe COVID bowl full of your... Melbourne Cup winners.
00:49:05
Speaker 5: Doing some ASMR here.
00:49:07
Speaker 1: Oh, that's very pleasant. Very relaxing.
00:49:09
Speaker 5: You like that?
00:49:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice.
00:49:10
Speaker 5: If I start chewing into the microphone.
00:49:12
Speaker 1: No, don't do that. I'll leave. And you can come over here and start pushing the buttons. 8223 0055. Get calling now. Six calls. First six calls through. We'll get the next six horses. But if you miss out, there are two more chances over the course of the morning until we give away all 24. And then we will be chatting with Patrick Clapp at the Weather Bureau in just a moment as well. Andrew, our resident airline enthusiast and expert, makes the point. that Qatar Adelaide services have also changed to a smaller seat capacity aircraft. So they've gone from the Boeing 777-300ER, which is typically 350 to 400 seats, to the Airbus A350-900, which is typically 300 to 350. So 50 or so fewer seats in addition to two fewer services. That's a really great point, Andrew.
00:50:01
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:50:01
Speaker 1: So it's not just the reduction in services as on the front page of the advertiser this morning.
00:50:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:50:07
Speaker 1: Love our listeners that are expert in their little niche field that share their expertise with us. Don't underestimate how much we appreciate that. From Ben Jordan, our resident stats man, to Andrew and Dave Lloyd and everyone. All right, let's go to the Weather Bureau. Patrick Clapp, good morning.
00:50:22
Speaker 13: Good morning.
00:50:22
Speaker 12: How are you?
00:50:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good, Patrick. We've been describing this as a perfect getting out and doing things weather day in Adelaide. It's a good Melbourne Cup function kind of day weather-wise as well, isn't it?
00:50:33
Speaker 18: It's about as good as it could be. Really good conditions, as you said. The only thing is a little bit of cloud about the hills and east of the hills this morning, but even.
00:50:44
Speaker 2: That should clear.
00:50:44
Speaker 18: So basically all of Adelaide and Greater Adelaide should be getting some sunny conditions through today. Those top temperatures take us to near averages. So just the specifics on those, 23 for Adelaide and Glenelg. Elizabeth, 25, no longer 22. Mount Barker, 23. So it really is looking like a great day today. That's the high pressure dominating before that next cold front coming through tomorrow.
00:51:11
Speaker 9: All right.
00:51:11
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Patrick. Thank you, Patrick Clapp at the Bureau of Meteorology. Remember, you can tune into the live stream at any time over the course of the morning. And with your fantastic new smart TVs, you can just go to the apps, go to YouTube and search 5AA Breakfast and you can have a local Adelaide breakfast. morning breakfast news program that you can have live on your television, all thanks to the great people at Dilmar. And in addition, you can see Stacey drinking Dilmar tea.
00:51:34
Speaker 5: I'm trying the Paradise Breakfast.
00:51:36
Speaker 1: What do we think? Delicious. Live review.
00:51:38
Speaker 5: It's a little bit of fruity, not too much though. I think if you are a sugar drinker and you wanted a little bit of sugar in there, it'd make it a bit more sweet, but just a nice hint of fruit.
00:51:47
Speaker 1: That's a terrific review. Cherish every morning with your daily Dilmar tea. Enjoy the new English breakfast or paradise breakfast. Dilmar, making the world a better tea. All right, let's give away some horses, shall we? Let's do it. All right, starting with Diane in Glenelg North. Diane, good morning to you.
00:52:07
Speaker 2: Good morning.
00:52:08
Speaker 1: All right, let's get you a horse, Diane.
00:52:09
Speaker 5: Diane, you're first up. You've got number one, Sons and Lovers.
00:52:13
Speaker 1: Do you like the sound of that? Oh, thank you.
00:52:15
Speaker 6: Thank you.
00:52:16
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Diane. Let's go to Croydon. Kai, good morning.
00:52:19
Speaker 10: Good morning.
00:52:21
Speaker 5: Kai, you've got number six, Enfjar. Sorry if I pronounced that wrong.
00:52:27
Speaker 1: Do you like the sound of that, Kai, whether we said it right or wrong? No, Kai's all up and about. Don't worry about that. He's speechless. Very excited. Marion in Glengarry, let's give you a horse.
00:52:39
Speaker 7: Thank you.
00:52:39
Speaker 5: Number four, Middle Earth. That was one of Tom Wren's tips, Marion.
00:52:43
Speaker 1: Middle Earth.
00:52:44
Speaker 7: Well, thank you. All the best.
00:52:47
Speaker 1: Tolkien fans will be excited. Let's go to Craigburn Farm. Let's give Andrew a horse.
00:52:51
Speaker 5: At number 24, chocolates. That was another Tom Wren suggestion.
00:52:55
Speaker 1: That was a Tom Wren. Chocolates. One with a great narrative because the jockey has the broken collarbone. Does that fill you with confidence, Andrew?
00:53:04
Speaker 9: Not really.
00:53:05
Speaker 2: No.
00:53:05
Speaker 1: Well, you never know. It'd be a great story. And it'd be great for you because you'd get $ 100 worth of Sam Tez seafood. Buffalo Bill. Let's give Buffalo Bill a horse.
00:53:14
Speaker 13: Yes.
00:53:14
Speaker 5: Number five, Vauban.
00:53:16
Speaker 1: Oh, well, there.
00:53:17
Speaker 6: Oh, giddy up, giddy up.
00:53:18
Speaker 2: Giddy up.
00:53:19
Speaker 1: That you, Buffalo Bill. Daryl in Port Adelaide.
00:53:23
Speaker 12: Will and Stacey.
00:53:24
Speaker 5: Hello, Daryl. You've got number 13, One Smooth Operator.
00:53:28
Speaker 4: Oh, that'll do.
00:53:29
Speaker 12: That's good.
00:53:30
Speaker 1: That'll do. That's you, Daryl. You're a smooth operator. So I just wanted to turn up slightly because on the live stream we see Stacey dancing. More horses to give away. That's half the field done. We've got another group of six we'll give away next half hour after Phil Currie, then again in the last hour of the morning. And, look, someone's going to walk away with $ 100 worth of Samtash seafood. We'll take a break. 5AA News is coming up. Phil Currie next.
00:53:58
Speaker 3: Knockdown, build two. With Metro Homes, sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
00:54:06
Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:54:15
Speaker 1: 23 minutes to 8. We're getting another Melbourne Cup sweep coming up before 8 o'clock. Six more horses. If you've just missed out, well, now's the time for you. 8223 0055. Plug that into your phone. We'll also talk compulsory voting for local government elections.
00:54:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:54:30
Speaker 1: After 8.30 today. I'm intrigued whether... whether this latest bout of rate rises, AI fines, travel to Brazil for climate conferences has changed anyone's position on wanting to engage in the local government process? Are you so outraged it's time for greater accountability, or is it still a bridge too far for our listeners? I bet it's still a bridge too far, but we'll find out after 8.30, definitively.
00:54:57
Speaker 5: Understood why it would be such a big issue. And I've often thought we should institute a rule that if you don't vote in local council elections, you can't complain about their decisions.
00:55:07
Speaker 1: So, see, that automatically removes 75% of our content. I don't know why you want to institute such a rule.
00:55:14
Speaker 5: Sorry, you're right, you're right.
00:55:16
Speaker 1: I take it back. My goodness, that would make things hard to talk about.
00:55:18
Speaker 5: For local radio's sake, keep it local.
00:55:20
Speaker 1: Please let us talk about council without requiring a vote. Let's head to Canberra and talk federal politics. Phil Currie, the political editor of the Fin Review, joins us. Morning, Phil.
00:55:29
Speaker 12: Morning, Will. I reckon you're right, Stacey. Same goes for federal and state elections, too.
00:55:33
Speaker 5: If you don't vote, if you haven't exercised your right... to democracy, then don't complain about the decisions.
00:55:39
Speaker 1: You're not helping either, Phil. Thank you. Let's talk about someone we can all– because we can all get in line and blame. It's actually an interesting question at the moment, the blame game with regard to a rate rise that we're going to get a little bit later today. You've written about the business groups having a look at the ACTU and the role that unions have played in this. I'm interested in the politics of it as well. We're about to see a midterm election in the U.S., where the White House is probably going to get a whack on cost of living. Cost of living, all the polling says, is the biggest issue there. Blowback for the Albanese government for another rate rise today, Phil. Is it so predictable that ultimately there's not going to be a political fallout as a result of this, or is it just nibbling away at the edges of support for Albo and the government?
00:56:26
Speaker 12: Look, I think it's getting close to being really bad because... Yeah, as you said, who's to blame? Well, there's lots of factors. There's no one factor here. The main reason things are out of control now is because of oil prices, because of what, you know, Trump's gone and basically broken the world. But, you know, the federal government has played, and state governments too, like it's not just federal government, but state governments are just as guilty, including your bloke, in terms of how much they spend. So the problem we had was before Trump invaded Iran, inflation in Australia was already too high. It was already above, the limit that the Reserve Bank deems acceptable. So the Reserve Bank, as I'm sure the Governor will say again today, was already increasing interest rates before Trump attacked Iran. Now, the problem we had when he did attack Iran was that what economists say, the economy had no capacity to absorb another shock, which the shock was the rise in oil prices. So the Governor had been warned for years and years, you've got to get inflation under control. We're already on the red line. And so... it really is just throwing fuel on the campfire, what's happening in the Middle East now. So, you know, had, for example, inflation been brought under control before the war in Iran, we probably could have absorbed one, two or three of these interest rate rises rather than just had what's going to be the fifth in a row today. So that's where this sort of shared blame comes from. You know, the Reserve Bank government's been saying for ages, as have a lot of economists, that this government spends too much money. The statistics bear that out. And the trouble is they've, You know, they've spent a lot of money because it's been a good way of winning votes. And now, all of a sudden, people are starting to think this may not be so good for me after all. So you're seeing this government really wrestling with what to do, how to sort of get off the drip, if you like, of easy votes and have to actually do some tough decisions. And, you know, I think we're seeing a transition, if you like, maybe back to where we used to be before COVID, where, you know, fiscal rectitude, as they call it, was something to be aspired to rather than admonished.
00:58:32
Speaker 5: And it just doesn't feel like it will stop any time soon, Phil. You know, Victorian election, then the New South Wales election next year.
00:58:39
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, it was good. Chris Minns is the only sort of real Labour Premier or leader in the country who's really conscious about spending. He's the New South Wales Premier and he's been Having some real wax at Albanese in recent months about it. He says every time we spend more money, we find a way to either pay for it or we cut something to offset it. And that's what you've got to do. Sydney's got the highest house prices in the world and definitely in Australia. And so every time there's an interest rate rise, it hurts more in Sydney than anywhere else. And he's been really quiet.
00:59:10
Speaker 7: Strong.
00:59:10
Speaker 12: And he came out yesterday and whacked all the other states. He said, don't lose your minds with these state elections coming up and just start spending trying to buy votes.
00:59:18
Speaker 9: And that was a real.
00:59:19
Speaker 12: So, you know, we got a Victorian election at the end of this month. But, yeah, he's about the only one using that language publicly. No one else is using it. So we need more of it.
00:59:29
Speaker 1: Well, to that end, we spoke about a couple of weeks ago, it sometimes feels like Mark Butler's the actor in the wrong film because he's trying to preach this idea that, well, if we're going to spend more on aged care, we're going to have to find it from somewhere else, and that's why we were going to try and save it from the over 65s private health rebate. He said we're going to try and make billions of dollars worth of savings with the NDIS as well. That latter point you guys in the Fin Review have written about this morning is not something that's looking– like the level of savings he was hoping for is going to be realised?
00:59:59
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, the government still intends to save this $ 38 billion off the NDIS will by the end of the decade. But there was just a line hidden in an annual report, an NDIS annual report, where the actuary and treasury actually is casting doubt over whether it's achievable. So it's not saying they can't. And I don't think the government needs to... Needs any reminding how difficult it will be to cut the NDIS, but they're still saying that's still our intention to do it. But that is the big banana. It's not the only thing they've got to do, but that is in terms of having to find savings. That thing is just eating the budget alive and it has to be reined in.
01:00:37
Speaker 5: Now, Phil, we've sort of mentioned this week and late last week that Matt Canavan is looking to shift from the Senate to the lower house, the seat of Capricornia. Is this.
01:00:48
Speaker 5: How politically motivated is this move in terms of... He was potentially looking at losing his Senate spot at the next election.
01:00:56
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right. And it's not going to be easy winning the seat of Capricorn here either. For your listeners, it's sort of halfway up the Queensland coast. Big population centre, sort of Rockhampton, Yippoon. If anyone knows where Yippoon is, it's... So he's real one-nation territory up there. Like, their vote would be well over 30%, you know, probably close to 40%. I haven't seen any polls, but anecdotally... Canavan, as you said, he's a Queensland senator. And again, he'll be second on the conservative ticket because they have the Liberal National Party up there, so the Liberals go first, the Nationals second. He will struggle to win that second Senate seat up there against One Nation. So for that and other reasons, he's decided to try and move to the lower house. The member for Capricorn is a lady called Michelle Landry. She's getting on a bit. She's always going to retire at this election, so... But it won't be easy, Stacey, that One Nation is running right up there and they'll put a lot of money into that seat and run a strong campaign. But it's sort of reflective of the threat the Nationals are facing because they could be left without any Senators after the next election. If the numbers stay as they are, they could be in real strife. And in the lower house too, they could lose a lot of their seats in the lower house, if not all. I don't think that will happen at the end of the day, but they face, you know, we talk about the Liberal Party and the existential threat to them. One Nation's really at the coalface when it comes to the One Nation threat because of the nature of the seats they hold.
01:02:22
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Bill. Good to chat, mate. You got a tip for a winner today or you don't do that kind of thing?
01:02:26
Speaker 12: No, no, I do. But just please don't put any money on because I'm useless. I was just looking at them and I like the colours of wine dark sea. So even though it's $ 41, I think.
01:02:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? You know what? Why not, Phil?
01:02:39
Speaker 12: I'll put my annual $ 5 bet on.
01:02:40
Speaker 9: There you go.
01:02:41
Speaker 12: Yeah, but no... I'm talking out of my head. Wouldn't have a clue.
01:02:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Number eight. It's what Melbourne Cup Day is all about.
01:02:47
Speaker 12: Anyone listening?
01:02:48
Speaker 1: Good on you, Phil.
01:02:49
Speaker 12: Good luck.
01:02:49
Speaker 1: Political editor of the Fin Review, Phil Currie there. Should we do a couple of texts quickly to round out this chat?
01:02:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is a really interesting text. There's no name on it, but 50% of EV and solar subsidies go to people earning over $ 120, 000 a year. This should be cut straight away.
01:03:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree completely with that.
01:03:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. And I was thinking about it this morning. Why are we offering EV subsidies anymore?
01:03:13
Speaker 1: The market has made the case to go EV. If that's something you've ever been curious about, people will– this is not experimental technology that needs– public support no there's a million of these things out in the road right now and if you don't want to pay petrol and you're to be inured from shocks in the middle east i mean the case has been made.
01:03:32
Speaker 5: And they're achievable for everyone now there are evs as low as what 20 30 grand yeah so it's not just something that the rich can buy you can.
01:03:40
Speaker 1: Buy a cherry and get a really nice car and get it for 30 000.
01:03:44
Speaker 5: That subsidy needs to stop.
01:03:45
Speaker 1: Now yeah i i agree with that and that one's blown that's an example of a an idea that blew out massively and it's cost billions more than it was um That was imagined. Andrew says, Mark Butler yesterday said the rise in inflation is our fault, blaming us for going out to restaurants and buying cars, gaslighting at its finest.
01:04:03
Speaker 5: I didn't hear that.
01:04:04
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the quote, but yeah. Anyone but the government's fault.
01:04:09
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:04:09
Speaker 5: It's always the way. We should be doing more.
01:04:14
Speaker 1: Well, the government needed to do more. They needed to do it early, and Phil's right. And people be There's one area where I wonder if we'll look back and think the RBA got it wrong, and it was the post-Ukraine war, post-COVID inflation event that we had, and we kept being told about the soft landing, the soft landing. We can navigate this without going into recession, where all of history had told us inflationary events end in recession. I wonder if we went a bit harder then, whether we would not be going as hard as we are now. Hindsight's 20-20, I get it, but I wonder if we'll reflect on the folly of the soft landing, or maybe we'll get through this and it'll be okay. But it doesn't feel like at the moment that that was prudent management when other places, yes, went into recession, went harder. They're now in a better position to us. And I know it's not one for one, but I wonder if we'll reflect on that.
01:05:02
Speaker 5: It's hard to see a way out at this point. It's hard to see.
01:05:04
Speaker 1: Five in a year.
01:05:05
Speaker 5: Where's that soft landing?
01:05:06
Speaker 1: It's not feeling so soft all of a sudden. It's starting to feel like crack landing.
01:05:09
Speaker 5: We're still falling.
01:05:10
Speaker 1: All right, let's check traffic and we'll come back with our sweep in just a moment. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota. combining iconic strength with advanced hybrid.
01:05:20
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01:05:28
Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:05:34
Speaker 1: Eight minutes to eight. 8223 0000 is the number. We've got six more horses to give away in a Melbourne Cup sweep. You can get calling right now, in fact. $ 100 worth of Samtas seafood on the line, which goes a hell of a long way at Samtas. You can watch along, remember, at any point to Facebook and YouTube live stream. Thanks to Dilmar Tea. Cherish every morning with your daily Dilmar Tea. Enjoy the new English breakfast or paradise breakfast. Dilmar, making the world a better tea. It is a big, big day today. Eddie Summerfield for 3OW is at Flemington.
01:06:02
Speaker 10: Eddie, good morning.
01:06:04
Speaker 8: Well, Stacey, good morning. I'm just riding on some lawns here at Flemington. Gate's open in about half an hour from now. You can probably hear me in the sound check behind me and As you two know, the beauty of working breakfast radio hours, often you don't check the colours of clothes that you might put on. And I've gone with a dark green suit, Shane, and navy blue tie. What's that old saying? Blue and green should never be seen.
01:06:25
Speaker 1: That's a bold statement. That is a bold statement.
01:06:28
Speaker 13: I haven't done well.
01:06:30
Speaker 1: What's it like being at Flemington before the gates open? Who's there at the moment? What's the vibe?
01:06:35
Speaker 8: But all the food beverage outlets are all getting set up for the day. The trackside bookies, yeah, there's still a few of them, despite most people these days packing horses on their phone. They're setting up and getting all of their cash in order for the day. There's a heap of seagulls cleaning up whatever's left over from Derby Day on Saturday. I'd love to say the roses are just being touched.
01:06:56
Speaker 12: Up at the moment, but.
01:06:57
Speaker 6: They're not.
01:06:58
Speaker 8: They are looking an absolute treat. A bit of drizzle in Melbourne this morning, guys, but the good news is, I can report, that has been cleared. There's some track workers there putting the rails together at the moment, just having a look and making sure every blade of grass is in the right place for the first race that jumps just after 11.
01:07:16
Speaker 5: Well, it wouldn't be a day in Melbourne without a drizzle of rain, at least.
01:07:20
Speaker 8: And sunshine safety.
01:07:21
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly, all of it.
01:07:22
Speaker 5: A bit of everything. So, uh, what are your, what are your tips, Eddie? Got any tips for us?
01:07:28
Speaker 8: Oh, so it's a hard year, isn't it? Because often we get to a cup and we like, there's, there's been some good stories around, but I feel like the field is so open this year that there's a stack of horses coming from, uh, overseas 17, in fact, from Europe and the U S just six from here in Australia and New Zealand, $ 10 million up for grabs. Um, If you like a bit of an omen bet, I don't mind James McDonald.
01:07:58
Speaker 13: He's on Trust Your Instinct.
01:07:59
Speaker 8: He, of course, won the Melbourne Cup back in 2021 on Very Elegant. Barrier 18 that day. Today, Barrier 18 as well. He was the last one to win from Barrier 18. So there's that omen there. Sheila Laxon, what a great story. She's won two Melbourne Cups. and she has entered two Melbourne Cups. Today's her third Melbourne Cup as a trainer. Knight's choice, the 2024 winner back today. So maybe that's something to have a look at, or anything from the Kieran Maher or Joseph O'Brien. How's Joseph O'Brien? He's 33 years of age. He's won two Melbourne Cups. He's got five horses running today. If one of them salutes, he'll be the youngest ever trainer to win three Melbourne Cups. Trust your instincts. His best bet there, Kieran Maher's pointer floor. Those two horses will jump favourite.
01:08:49
Speaker 1: Always enjoy chatting with our 3AW colleagues, Eddie, and asking them on this day or grand final day, which is a bigger day in Melbourne? Which do you prefer? Where do you sit in that discussion?
01:08:59
Speaker 7: Why?
01:09:00
Speaker 1: You have to pick one.
01:09:01
Speaker 8: I know. The atmosphere of Melbourne, particularly when there's an interstate non-Victorian club in the grand final. I know you guys in South Australia haven't been over here for more than a decade, really, isn't it?
01:09:14
Speaker 13: Not to rub that in.
01:09:15
Speaker 8: But it is such a fun week, grand final week, and it's really grown since the Crows were last here in 2014. The Cup, though, that brings people in on cruise ships from the east coast of Australia. There'll be people who have driven overnight from Adelaide to be here. There's a few who I've caught up with the last couple of years from Adelaide who are often on the rails, and I'm hoping to catch up with them again for you today, guys. And I think Grand Final Week has it, but the buzz of Melbourne on Cup morning and Cup day, because no one worked yesterday, no one will work tomorrow, and today everyone just has a punt, put the races on and has a good day away from schoolwork and the miseries of modern life. And of course, the other big thing that's happening today at 2.30 South Australian time is Jim Chalmers will get up and speak about the race decision.
01:10:03
Speaker 1: He's going to tell us how it's all going.
01:10:05
Speaker 8: Will we be tuning in for that or the cup? What's he doing, Jim?
01:10:10
Speaker 1: I can tell you, I can write his speech right now, Eddie. I don't think we need to tune in for that one. The cup has more intrigue about it. Good on you, mate. Have a wonderful day. Thank you very much, guys.
01:10:21
Speaker 16: See you, Eddie.
01:10:22
Speaker 1: Eddie Summerfield, 3AW Sports reporter there at Flemington.
01:10:25
Speaker 5: Pretty easy to see why. Sorry, Eddie. Why the Victorian economy is the way it is. When no one worked yesterday, no one's working today, no one did any work on Friday. People are probably working from home at the races today.
01:10:35
Speaker 1: It wouldn't look any different because everyone can work from home. That's right. Let's get some more people in the running for our sweep, shall we?
01:10:44
Speaker 5: Oh, way too early for this song.
01:10:45
Speaker 1: For Daryl? Too early for Daryl? Did I pull the Daryl trigger too early?
01:10:49
Speaker 5: This is like the nightclub's closing, the party's ending type song.
01:10:53
Speaker 1: Well, we've got another sweep after this. I have to find another horse, another song. Alan in Plimpton, good morning to you.
01:10:59
Speaker 9: Yes, good morning, yes.
01:11:00
Speaker 5: Alan, you've got horse number 11, Juja Kaibo.
01:11:05
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you, Alan.
01:11:07
Speaker 5: Sorry if I got that wrong.
01:11:07
Speaker 1: That's all right. As long as it wins, Alan will be happy. Anne in Newton, good morning. Good morning, guys.
01:11:12
Speaker 5: Anne, you've got number three, Knight's Choice.
01:11:15
Speaker 8: Oh, that's a goodie.
01:11:16
Speaker 5: Thank you.
01:11:17
Speaker 1: You've got a chance there, Anne. Glad you're happy. Karen, good morning. Good morning.
01:11:22
Speaker 5: Karen, you have number 22, Mr Monaco.
01:11:25
Speaker 16: Okay, then.
01:11:26
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
01:11:27
Speaker 5: All the best, Karen.
01:11:28
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Let's go to Pete, who's in Arendale. Good morning, Rue.
01:11:32
Speaker 9: Good morning, Stacey.
01:11:33
Speaker 5: Pete, number 17 is yours. Future history.
01:11:36
Speaker 10: Fantastic.
01:11:38
Speaker 9: It's got four legs.
01:11:39
Speaker 16: It does.
01:11:40
Speaker 1: It does, for now. From Arundel to Port Vincent. Linda, good morning. Daryl's just cut out.
01:11:46
Speaker 7: Hello, how are you?
01:11:47
Speaker 5: Hello, Linda. We're good. You have number 16. So you are.
01:11:52
Speaker 1: So you are. And our very last one, Paul in Port Noarlunga South.
01:11:55
Speaker 19: Paul.
01:11:56
Speaker 5: He's put us on hold.
01:11:57
Speaker 1: You there, Paul? Well, you know what?
01:12:01
Speaker 5: Oh, well, he's out.
01:12:02
Speaker 1: Let's take Lucy and Lockley's because that was the first one I saw. Lucy and Lockley's. We'll give you a horse. Morning, Lucy.
01:12:08
Speaker 5: Lucy, good morning. You're on the air. Number 20, Point of Law.
01:12:13
Speaker 8: Oh, very good.
01:12:14
Speaker 10: Thank you very much.
01:12:14
Speaker 1: Tale for the ages of Lucy Wins the $ 100 Samtas Seafood with Paul, who put us on hold. Must have been an important call. He might have missed out on $ 100 worth of Samtas Seafood, if you don't mind. All right, we're going to take a break. 5AA News, breaking at eight coming up. And then we're going to get into the issue of compulsory voting at local government elections. Do you think it's something, a concept whose time has come, folks? Let's just get a bit of a poll going, shall we? You can text us or call on 8223 0000.
01:12:46
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Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:13:01
Speaker 1: Nine minutes after rate-breaking day. In just a moment, getting some early votes in on our poll regarding the compulsory voting at local government election level. For or against, register your... and maybe add a little note about whether it's changed in recent years at all. Is enough enough? Is it time to compel people to be part of the process? Because we're going to get into that issue after 8.30 today, but we'll give you a chance to call in, but we'll be interested to have a little bit of ballast to that poll coming in now. We have one or two more sweeps. One more sweep. We have six horses remaining.
01:13:36
Speaker 5: Six horses.
01:13:36
Speaker 1: And in some really exciting news.
01:13:38
Speaker 5: There's only five in here. No, there's six.
01:13:40
Speaker 12: Sorry.
01:13:41
Speaker 5: How can I stuff up the sweep?
01:13:44
Speaker 1: A bit of turn up for the books. Six horses remaining, so one more sweep opportunity. $ 100 worth of Sam Tass seafood on the line. A few people have asked, what about Liz McCaskill's tips? Well, we've been on the phone to Liz, and we'll reveal them around the time of the next sweep, okay?
01:13:58
Speaker 5: Our resident psychic.
01:13:59
Speaker 1: Liz, on a heater, by the way. Yeah. What was the note? Cold shower.
01:14:03
Speaker 5: Cold shower.
01:14:03
Speaker 1: Taps in her house didn't work. She tipped cold shower. Unbelievable.
01:14:07
Speaker 7: Yep.
01:14:08
Speaker 5: Lots of listeners were very grateful.
01:14:09
Speaker 1: I don't know. Are there any home appliances that are in the field today? I'm not sure. We'll find out anyway.
01:14:16
Speaker 5: Unless Kizzle Yar, number 19, sounds like something you'd buy from Ikea and fail to put together.
01:14:22
Speaker 1: Has Liz been to Ikea? I don't know.
01:14:23
Speaker 19: Maybe.
01:14:24
Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll reveal all in a little bit. But first, it's time to go breaking at eight.
01:14:32
Speaker 5: Well, this is something we've been following for a while, the scrapping of the social worker registration scheme after months of work and millions of taxpayer dollars to get it up and running. It was sensationally scrapped during estimates, parliament estimates last year by new minister for child protection, Alice Rowles. Well, the Liberal opposition is claiming that the Minister has misled Parliament. So we'll talk to Laura Henderson, the Shadow Child Protection Minister, in just a moment. But we did want to say we requested the Minister, Alice Rolls, to come on this morning. We haven't heard back about her availability, so we're assuming she's not available. If she is and she's listening, feel free to call in, 8223 0000. We didn't even get a statement from the Minister. We got a statement from a government spokesperson.
01:15:20
Speaker 1: Wow.
01:15:21
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:15:22
Speaker 5: Which doesn't tend to add much to the conversation.
01:15:26
Speaker 1: You can't interview a statement.
01:15:27
Speaker 5: No, you can't interview a statement. We're offering the Minister a chance to come on and have her say. Otherwise, we don't really want to read out the government propaganda on this one.
01:15:35
Speaker 1: Fair enough.
01:15:36
Speaker 5: So for lack of an interview, Laura Henderson, Liberal MLC, joins you. Sorry, that was quite a disrespectful way to introduce you, Laura Henderson. I'm not meaning you're our last resort, but with respect, I'm just meaning we would rather talk to the Minister and question her about this.
01:15:53
Speaker 19: I would love to hear from the Minister as well. I think there are a lot of questions that need to be answered at this point. But ultimately, we've heard the Minister advise the Parliament that she had attempted to call every board member. We've now heard evidence through the Social Worker Registration Select Committee from the presiding member that that is not the case. We've also now got a copy of board minutes that indicate otherwise. As well, when it comes to Parliament sitting next sitting week, we'll be moving that Minister roles being investigated for misleading Parliament.
01:16:24
Speaker 3: And so this is over her claim that she did call every board member.
01:16:29
Speaker 5: Is that correct? And why is that important?
01:16:34
Speaker 20: That is correct.
01:16:35
Speaker 19: But members of Parliament are rightly held to a higher standard and they're expected to ensure that information that's provided to the Parliament is correct.
01:16:43
Speaker 12: So.
01:16:44
Speaker 19: What we are talking about here isn't whether or not a phone call was made. We're talking about the competence and the accountability of a rookie minister. We are dealing with the child protection system. And so I would say that is probably the most portfolio that a minister could hold because we're dealing with our state's most vulnerable. There are incredibly high stakes. And I guess just to bring it back into perspective for your listeners, The social worker registration scheme that we're talking about here that's been scrapped by the government actually stems from a coronial inquest after the tragic death of little Chloe Valentine. So things that really matter within this portfolio.
01:17:20
Speaker 5: All right. Well, we'll wait and see how that goes next week. Laura Henderson, thanks for your time.
01:17:30
Speaker 1: So someone wasn't contacted.
01:17:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the board members.
01:17:35
Speaker 1: I don't know how the board members that were contacted reacted to the scrapping of that plan.
01:17:38
Speaker 5: After having worked on it for months?
01:17:40
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:17:40
Speaker 5: Millions of taxpayer dollars spent on it? It's a strange one to me. It just doesn't make much sense. And there's not been an explanation. It was just a decision that was made and the explanations that have come haven't really stacked up. Oh, it was going to be too costly. But you hadn't told social workers how much it was going to cost for them to register. So how could it be too costly for them if you didn't have a price yet?
01:18:05
Speaker 1: It's been a mess, this whole thing. All right, let's head to Jared. Now, we've called Jared because Jared sent through a picture. And I said to Paddy, is that AI? It's a picture of the Torrens taken from Adelaide Oval. No, not from Adelaide Oval. Sorry, it's from the other side. Looking at Adelaide Oval.
01:18:20
Speaker 5: The Oval Hotel, it looks like.
01:18:22
Speaker 1: I think it's probably taken from the casino or the intercom, that sort of area. In fact, Jared's on the line. I was just asking him, Jared, where did you take the photo from?
01:18:30
Speaker 6: Just out of my office building. I got into works this morning and looked out the window and saw the green across the torrent.
01:18:38
Speaker 1: So just to describe it for people, it is as though you cannot see water for the green moss that is on top of the Torrens. The only bits of visible water are where boats have paddled through. Everything else, it looks like some sort of Petri dish. Jared, have you, so from your vantage point, have you ever seen it this bad before?
01:18:59
Speaker 6: No, no, never. It was getting pretty bad last week and you could see bits were floating down and it was starting to get more green, but this is the worst I've seen it probably ever.
01:19:08
Speaker 9: I would say.
01:19:09
Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable photo. We might put that up on social media a little bit later. Thank you, Jared. It is disgusting. There's no other word for it. It looks repulsive.
01:19:18
Speaker 5: It feels like it happens every year. I haven't seen it this bad. The entire river is covered in the green stuff. It's not algal bloom, is it? What is it?
01:19:30
Speaker 12: No.
01:19:30
Speaker 1: Do you know what it is? I don't know.
01:19:32
Speaker 4: Just.
01:19:33
Speaker 10: Oh, duckweed.
01:19:33
Speaker 1: Paddy says it's duckweed. You answered that quickly. You sound like a duckweed expert.
01:19:37
Speaker 5: That does tend to happen from time to time.
01:19:40
Speaker 1: Duckweed. Whatever it is, it is a thick layer of plant life over the top of the Torrens. And what you're imagining is probably not as green as it is when you'll see the photo. That is shocking.
01:19:51
Speaker 5: It looks like the grass. It's a continuation of grass.
01:19:54
Speaker 1: It does.
01:19:55
Speaker 5: It just looks like the grasses continue.
01:19:57
Speaker 1: Pinky flat continues into the Torrens. If you're on the live stream, you'll be able to see it. Otherwise, jump on. Cherish every morning with your daily Dilmar tea. Enjoy the new English breakfast or paradise breakfast. Dilmar, making the world a better tea. That is unbelievable. Thank you for sending that through, Gerard. We absolutely appreciate it. Now, time for 8.20 talkback. 8223 0000 is the number. What we want to know, we know the RBA are going to lift rates today. If the RBA has a desire to do some lifting today, what is something that you would like them to lift?
01:20:28
Speaker 5: Instead.
01:20:28
Speaker 1: Instead of the rates.
01:20:29
Speaker 8: Yep.
01:20:30
Speaker 1: If they have to lift something, what should it be?
01:20:32
Speaker 5: Let's give them some alternatives.
01:20:34
Speaker 1: That's right.
01:20:34
Speaker 5: I think they need to go to the gym.
01:20:36
Speaker 1: And now, this is not an economic conversation, ladies and gentlemen. Just think outside the box. If they have to lift something, what would you like them to lift? 8223 0000, text us on. 0-4-8-0-8-13-95.
01:20:53
Speaker 5: Can I make my first suggestion? I would like them to lift my husband's enthusiasm when I'm clothes shopping. Sitting on the man chair and looking over every now and then saying, yeah, nice, is not enough.
01:21:08
Speaker 1: Thank God for the man chair. That thing, I don't know who invented that, but they should be up there with Einstein and Edison. Yeah, absolutely. The man chair inventor. God bless you. Well played. That's good. And ironically, if they were to lift his enthusiasm for shopping, it would also add pressure to inflation. Watch the RBA lift, folks. 8223 0000 or text us on 048 08 13 95. We'll take some of your calls. I can see them coming through and check traffic first. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota, combining iconic strength with advanced hybrid power.
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01:21:57
Speaker 1: 22 minutes after 8, what would you like the RBA to lift instead of rates? If they have to lift something today, what could they lift instead of rates? Yours is great, I liked it. What did you say?
01:22:07
Speaker 5: My husband's enthusiasm when we're shopping.
01:22:09
Speaker 1: Some of the texts are unbelievable.
01:22:12
Speaker 4: Yes.
01:22:13
Speaker 1: I'd have them lift the moratorium on nuclear power in Australia. Why not? Just remove it. Just see what happens.
01:22:17
Speaker 5: Such a will answer.
01:22:18
Speaker 1: Just see what happens.
01:22:19
Speaker 5: No one else thinks of the moratorium on nuclear power.
01:22:22
Speaker 1: I just want to see what would happen.
01:22:25
Speaker 5: Probably nothing.
01:22:25
Speaker 1: Well, babe, and let's find out. Mike at O'Sullivan Beach, what should the RBA lift?
01:22:30
Speaker 9: Put in a salary cap.
01:22:32
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, Mike.
01:22:34
Speaker 18: Nice one.
01:22:35
Speaker 1: That's good.
01:22:36
Speaker 9: They're looking to be a bit dangerous this year. I think they're going to roll out to you.
01:22:40
Speaker 12: All right.
01:22:41
Speaker 1: Good on you, Mike. Thank you. Let's go to Clearview. Would you like the RBA to lift?
01:22:45
Speaker 17: Mate, I need a bit longer weekend.
01:22:47
Speaker 9: So can we lift the weekend, please? Another day might be nice.
01:22:50
Speaker 1: Perfect. Yeah.
01:22:51
Speaker 5: Love that.
01:22:52
Speaker 1: So, look, you know what? All these AI dudes and Anthropic and ChatGPT and OpenAI, they're pitching the technology wrong. If they'd started by saying, God, this is the pathway to the three-day weekend.
01:23:06
Speaker 2: Yep.
01:23:07
Speaker 1: I think things would have started out on a better foot. They've started with this could be the end of the world, and I'm no marketing expert, but I think that would be a better angle. Now, 8223 0000, what should the RBA lift? Bernie, good morning.
01:23:21
Speaker 8: Lift.
01:23:22
Speaker 3: Bernie.
01:23:23
Speaker 1: Bernie.
01:23:24
Speaker 5: He's listening to us. I can hear myself, but I like it.
01:23:25
Speaker 1: You're good, Bernie. What have you got?
01:23:28
Speaker 17: They should lift their game.
01:23:29
Speaker 1: They should lift their game.
01:23:30
Speaker 5: Good one.
01:23:31
Speaker 1: That would be good.
01:23:32
Speaker 12: Yep.
01:23:32
Speaker 1: Bernie, good on you. You can listen to it back now in six seconds' time. John and Hallett Cove, good morning.
01:23:38
Speaker 9: I'd like them to lift Jim Chalmers and Katie Gallagher off their front bench seats and put them in the back bench.
01:23:44
Speaker 1: That's a good idea.
01:23:45
Speaker 5: The eject button.
01:23:47
Speaker 1: Might happen, John. Thank you. It won't be the RBA that does it. Anna in Prospect, good morning. What should the RBA lift?
01:23:54
Speaker 7: Well, the RBA is so well known to all of us and I feel like they know us all intimately. I'd like them to do a wretched task that comes around a couple of times a year and that is to Lift, flip and rotate my queen-size mattress.
01:24:07
Speaker 1: Oh, that's brilliant, Anna. Oh, my goodness.
01:24:10
Speaker 5: Someone's got to do it.
01:24:11
Speaker 7: It's a pain.
01:24:11
Speaker 5: Might as well be the RBA.
01:24:14
Speaker 1: That's a community service. Michelle Bullock comes around with that other dude who's the assistant governor and they come over and they, how are you doing? Knock on your door. We're here to lift your mattress. Diana, good morning. Good morning.
01:24:27
Speaker 8: How are you guys?
01:24:28
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's intelligence.
01:24:30
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
01:24:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, well.
01:24:32
Speaker 5: That'd be nice.
01:24:33
Speaker 1: Gee whizzies. Some of his public appearances are.
01:24:35
Speaker 10: The midterms.
01:24:36
Speaker 1: They've always been eccentric, but they're now becoming weird.
01:24:39
Speaker 5: He's commenting on men's.
01:24:41
Speaker 1: A lot about men's attractiveness.
01:24:42
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:24:44
Speaker 5: Yeah. Anyway.
01:24:46
Speaker 1: Gay, good morning.
01:24:48
Speaker 6: Good morning, guys.
01:24:50
Speaker 20: I'm 71, and I'd really like them to lift my boobs.
01:24:56
Speaker 1: Hey!
01:24:57
Speaker 5: Yes, Gabe.
01:25:00
Speaker 1: Yes.
01:25:01
Speaker 20: Now, there's a challenge for them.
01:25:06
Speaker 7: Yep.
01:25:06
Speaker 5: No, I think they should just help out all women once you get to a certain age. Just give us all a lift.
01:25:13
Speaker 1: I don't know how that fits into the remit. So, inflation 2% to 3%, full employment, so under 5%, and.
01:25:20
Speaker 5: Full gravity.
01:25:21
Speaker 1: Full gravity. Or a removal of gravity, perhaps, maybe. Richard. I don't want to interrogate that one any further. I'm just going to get into trouble. Richard, what should the RBA lift?
01:25:30
Speaker 11: Yeah, still trying.
01:25:32
Speaker 17: To get over that last call.
01:25:34
Speaker 11: I was thinking lifting the standard political debate.
01:25:39
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:25:39
Speaker 17: The standard political leadership.
01:25:41
Speaker 9: That would make my morale lift.
01:25:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, good one, Richard.
01:25:44
Speaker 1: That's good. We're not putting rates up. But we're just going to say everyone needs to be a bit smarter in Australian politics.
01:25:51
Speaker 5: I think there should be a prerequisite of having run a business or been a senior administrator in a business or done something to do with running a business.
01:26:01
Speaker 1: I like that, Stace.
01:26:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, prerequisite.
01:26:03
Speaker 1: Talking about language. Stephanie, good morning.
01:26:06
Speaker 7: Good morning.
01:26:06
Speaker 15: I should lift Tuesday today.
01:26:10
Speaker 5: You'd lift Tuesday?
01:26:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. What does that involve, Stephanie?
01:26:15
Speaker 19: I'll just.
01:26:15
Speaker 6: Forget about today.
01:26:16
Speaker 1: Oh, so you just removed Tuesday. Tuesday would be gone.
01:26:19
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:26:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, good call.
01:26:20
Speaker 1: All Tuesdays from here on out?
01:26:21
Speaker 9: Oh, I don't know.
01:26:25
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:26:25
Speaker 15: All right.
01:26:26
Speaker 1: Food for thought.
01:26:26
Speaker 3: All right.
01:26:27
Speaker 1: Just get rid of us Tuesday. 364 days a year. Yeah. Stephanie, fantastic. Scott says they should lift the Australian cricket team out of the grave they're currently in before the soil gets thrown on. He also votes for gays.
01:26:41
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:26:42
Speaker 1: Suggestion as well. Thank you, Scott.
01:26:43
Speaker 5: I thought you meant he was Donald Trump.
01:26:45
Speaker 1: No, no. No, Stacey. Do you want to read any more texts? Should we shoulder arms to use a cricketing term? Okay. All right. 27 after 8. After 8.30, we're going to talk local government. And we want to know from you whether you think the time has come for compulsory voting to The reason we ask it today, we have a new litany of misdemeanors and misgivings to the local government that we whinge about all the time, from AI cars to trips overseas to climate conferences, rates going up, projects stuffed up.
01:27:25
Speaker 5: Banning advertising for major events.
01:27:27
Speaker 1: Banning advertising for major events. Are we still at the point where we think collectively the cure is worse than the disease? Or is it time to compel people to engage with this tier of government? Let us know. Compulsory or not compulsory? We're going to compile the numbers. 8223 0000 for your thoughts or text them through. We'll get into that subject next.
01:27:50
Speaker 10: Knockdown.
01:27:51
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01:27:58
Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:28:02
Speaker 1: 22 minutes to nine. Victoria McCurdy, the South Australian LGA CEO, will join us in just a moment to talk about a vote that the local government association had taken from its members with regard to compulsory voting. We thought we should do the same among our listener base. We spent a lot of time talking about councils. We spent a lot of time being critical of councils, and we know participation rates are very low.
01:28:30
Speaker 8: Is.
01:28:31
Speaker 1: The cure worse than the disease. 8223 0000. Is it time to make it compulsory? If you don't like it, should you be compelled? to have your say in it? Raymond in Salisbury has called in on this. Raymond, good morning. What do you think?
01:28:45
Speaker 9: Good morning, folks.
01:28:46
Speaker 17: Look, I tend to agree. It should be compulsory. But at the same time, we need to maybe look at making voting online.
01:28:56
Speaker 2: Because.
01:28:57
Speaker 17: Yeah, because it's one thing to have federal and state politics elections, and it's a nightmare lining up. You could spend all day to do it. And councils is probably harder because you wouldn't have as many polling booths and whatnot in your local council area. But if it's online, it's simple, it's easy for everybody to do. And I'm of the opinion that it's no good complaining about something unless you're prepared to do something about fixing it.
01:29:23
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Raymond. You've just brought up the very thing I was thinking about last night, and I wonder if the barrier to entry was reduced, whether it would change. Let us know, folks, whether it would change your position on this. If you could do it on your phone. Now, let's forget the technological challenges. Let's imagine we live in a world where that is possible. Is that the one thing that's in the way from this being a good idea, or do you have other philosophical problems? Like Scott does on the text line. He says, guys- Hell no. He says, why is that? Because what's the end game? I'm forced to vote nationally and that doesn't stop me from getting stuck with a PM that gets slagged off by eight-year-old children.
01:29:58
Speaker 5: Scott, drawing reference to Bronte Emanuel's.
01:30:02
Speaker 1: Son yesterday, getting all political. Sorry, you were about to say something, Scott.
01:30:05
Speaker 5: I was going to say, I don't actually think it's too hard to vote in council elections. It's a postal one. It gets sent out to you, you fill out a form, you put it back in the envelope it came in.
01:30:14
Speaker 1: So there's no line-ups as it is.
01:30:15
Speaker 5: So you don't It doesn't have to become a big thing on a Saturday like we do with a state and federal, or is the intention to change that? I guess we can ask our next guest.
01:30:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's find out. Victoria McCurdy joins us now. Victoria, good morning to you.
01:30:31
Speaker 20: Good morning.
01:30:31
Speaker 7: How are you?
01:30:32
Speaker 5: Good, thank you. So this vote will happen. Has there been a look at how council elections could look if we do end up going down the track of compulsory voting?
01:30:45
Speaker 20: Yeah, so there's been lots of conversations and it has been a topic for quite some time. And your caller just a moment ago makes a very good point. So there's two votes. There's one to see whether our sector is keen to look at advocating for postal voting, sorry, for compulsory voting. And the other decision is about looking at an alternative method of voting. Because we know once upon a time it was polling booths and then we went into postal voting. Postal voting, when you think about our return rate, is very expensive for councils. It is fully funded by the councils. It costs about $ 9. 8 million a year. And I'll provide you a couple of examples. So there's 131,000 electors. That's people who are eligible to vote in, say, the city of Onkaparinga. If they're only getting a 24% return rate, all of those postal votes are going out and only 24% are returned. but the postage is paid. So it's a very expensive exercise. I don't feel there is that much confidence nowadays in terms of the postal voting, although it is a very valid way. It's an easy and convenient way. But there are other alternatives, like your caller said, digitally, polling booth or a mixture. But there are two decisions. It's one about compulsory voting and the other is about alternative methods of actually obtaining those votes.
01:32:10
Speaker 1: I've got a pretty good handle because it's coming through on the text line now on what the average punter thinks about the arguments for and against compulsory voting. What are the proponents and the detractors among your membership saying, Victoria, those that are councils themselves, what are those for it, say the reasons for doing it are, and what are those who are against it say the reasons for not doing it are?
01:32:32
Speaker 20: Again, there's a mixture of conversations. There are some who are concerned that compulsory voting would.
01:32:40
Speaker 20: Attract more political parties into local government. And it's not to say they aren't already present. You would say the majority, and if you're looking at the statistics from the 22 election, the majority of the 600 odd elected members declare themselves as independent. They are there to represent their community as they should be. But there is a mixture of those who have to declare if they are a member of a political party. That's a concern because it should be about your elected member representing the community where they live and where they represent those residents. And there's also, I mean, there's others that will say, you know, it's a privilege to be able to vote in our country. It's a privilege to have three levels of government. That's why we have the country that we do, because of our government system. And so there's arguments for and against, but what the LGA is looking to do obtained from its members, those 68 councils, to go, is this a priority for us as the LGA to advocate to the state government? Because it requires a decision of our state government to make it legislation, whether that voting is compulsory or not.
01:33:52
Speaker 1: Okay.
01:33:52
Speaker 5: And is the vote purely about that fact that the LGA will advocate to the state government for it, or do you then look at some of the minutia, some of the detail about how it could work and how you get to know your candidates because that's another thing. A lot of people on the text line are saying, I've never had a candidate knock on my door. I don't know what they stand for until I get that thing in the letterbox and then I don't know who to vote for because I don't really know anything about them.
01:34:20
Speaker 17: Absolutely.
01:34:20
Speaker 20: And they're all valid questions. So currently now we're not looking to change for the 27 elections in April. Let's make that very, very clear. If this is a decision that our members are looking for, for the LGA to work on. It would be something that we would be working towards the 2031 election. And it wouldn't just be we advocate for compulsory voting, but what we would be working with our state government about going, well, what does that look like? What needs to change? Then what methods of voting are going to be the most appropriate? So it would require that work and energy to go into that. It's not just advocating we want compulsory voting. It's also about educating our community. I think It always surprises me the amount of people I listen to your radio and other radios a lot about the amount of people who want to complain or criticise about council. There's a lot of good things that come back and feedback about councils. But when you think of the percentage of 32%, 34% of electors only participate, yet they want to complain, you're going, you should be involved. You should know who your elected member is. they're not all going to get to knock on your door. Many do work exceptionally hard in their communities. It's not the same as a state or a federal member because they get a stipend, they get an allowance. Most people work full-time as well as being an elected member. They give it their time because they're usually passionate about their community. They're usually volunteering their communities already and they're trying to make where they live the best place possible. So I just think people should be paying more attention to their local elect members because it is that most local level of government.
01:36:02
Speaker 1: Victoria, someone's texted through with the suggestion that local government elections happen on the same day as state government elections. We synchronise the process. You go into the ballot box, it's an extra piece of paper, and you vote there. Is that something that's ever been canvassed at local government association level?
01:36:18
Speaker 7: No, it hasn't.
01:36:19
Speaker 20: And I actually heard that yesterday. I think the same question was asked of our president when she was talking about the same matter. And it's a very interesting way of looking at it. My personal opinion is I believe there can be just as much confusion at a state election as to who they're voting for, whether you're voting in the upper house, the lower house, who are the candidates. Imagine mixing that in with 600 other elected members who are coming in at local governments. I think they're very distinctive, different levels of government, and they should be given the attention that they deserve in separate elections.
01:36:55
Speaker 5: How do they do it interstate? Because I know in Tasmania and I think Victoria, it's compulsory.
01:37:01
Speaker 13: It is.
01:37:02
Speaker 20: So Tasmania, it came in compulsory in 2022. South Australia and WA are the only states where it is not compulsory. So again, they require this compulsory in every other state except South Australia and WA.
01:37:17
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating conversation and it's really stirred up our listeners, Victoria. There's some terrific feedback coming through, so we'll get to that. Thank you so much for your time this morning. Appreciate it.
01:37:25
Speaker 20: No, thank you very much.
01:37:26
Speaker 1: LGA South Australia CEO Victoria McCurdy on the push. But it's not a push yet. They're canvassing their members to see what the attitudes are from council to the potential for compulsory elections. Our listeners at the moment are having their views and they're very forthright because people feel very strongly on both positions on this one i think it's.
01:37:44
Speaker 5: Pretty 50 50 i don't know what are you what are you gauging from the text line.
01:37:49
Speaker 1: No i think 50 50 uh and then there's some outside of it like rob who says all in the same day limits access to multiple chances of democracy sausage so so think carefully about what you're asking uh that's a great point yes yeah.
01:38:01
Speaker 5: We haven't really thought through the ramifications yes the sausage ramifications um Brad says, seriously, compulsory voting for councils is ridiculous. I've never heard a better example of blowing your own trumpet. One, no one really knows much at all about the candidates. Their voting info cards are a carbon copy of each other. And two, the cost.
01:38:18
Speaker 8: Really?
01:38:19
Speaker 5: Focus on rubbish and roads? Thanks, Brad. And then the next one. Yes, council voting should be compulsory. I'm never notified about council elections or receive information in the post. so yeah people have very different views on it.
01:38:33
Speaker 1: This is i i'm intrigued by how this rates in terms of councils because it is it's a 50 50 issue in the five double a breakfast which is no doubt and it's really hard to get 50 50 issues these days yeah usually it's heavily skewed one way or the other but um I think it would need to be clearer. People are passionate about this.
01:38:51
Speaker 5: Because that little blurb that you get about each councillor is sometimes not enough and it can be– it's like getting a government statement. It's just a bit of propaganda. It's what they want you to know about them. You don't have a chance to prosecute and question them. And a lot of them can just get rid of their party membership so then they can say, I'm not a member of a party just before the election. And they can say they're unaffiliated when really they do have certain views on certain issues because they do affiliate themselves.
01:39:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm– I'm not sure what's worse, the current situation with not a great deal of transparency or a formalised system where it's all political parties.
01:39:27
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:39:28
Speaker 1: I think it might actually be, whilst I think there's this repulsion of, oh, we don't want politics in local council, if it's already there a little bit, it's already there. Yeah, it is.
01:39:36
Speaker 5: It's there.
01:39:36
Speaker 1: It's there. So maybe we should just go whole hog and have this declared, have it compulsory and have the entire process be totally transparent. At least we have a broad sense of what you're voting for as opposed to, relying on blurbs alone, which is not really a way to conduct things. Let's check traffic. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota, combining iconic strength with advanced hybrid power.
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01:40:11
Speaker 1: Six to nine, we've got six more horses to give away. 8223 0055. Get calling now for the final leg of our 5AA Breakfast Sweep. $ 100 worth of Samtaz seafood will be given away. Get calling right now. 8223 0055. Now, we've had a few requests for Liz McCaskill's tips. She's on a heater. Picked cold shower on the weekend. Some listeners backed Liz and they got rewarded. Uh, so we've called Liz. What are Liz's tips? Our 5AA resident psychic.
01:40:42
Speaker 5: Liz's tips are number one, 11, and she also likes number two called trust your instinct.
01:40:50
Speaker 1: Trust your instinct.
01:40:51
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:40:51
Speaker 1: That's what Liz does.
01:40:52
Speaker 5: So that's number one, sons and lovers, 11, juja kaibo, and two, trust your instinct.
01:40:59
Speaker 1: All right. Um, funny how Liz goes.
01:41:01
Speaker 5: Trusting her instincts.
01:41:03
Speaker 1: She certainly is. Uh, and, um, She's on a hot streak, Liz. All right, let's give away these last six horses. Maxine in Pasadena is on the line, which means it's horse time. Maxine, good morning.
01:41:16
Speaker 10: Good morning.
01:41:17
Speaker 5: Maxine, you've got horse number 15, Zaran.
01:41:20
Speaker 1: All right. Margaret and beautiful Moana.
01:41:25
Speaker 7: Good morning to you both.
01:41:26
Speaker 5: Hello, Margaret. I was about to call you Moana then. Hello, Margaret. You've got number 10, Goody Two Shoes.
01:41:32
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01:41:33
Speaker 12: Thank you very much.
01:41:34
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Margaret. Rex in Highbury, what have you got?
01:41:38
Speaker 5: Oh, Rex has Liz's tip. Number two, trust your instinct.
01:41:42
Speaker 1: Oh, Rex, you're with Liz. Thank you. Feeling good. All right, Tess in Camden Park is next cab off the rank.
01:41:48
Speaker 5: Number nine.
01:41:48
Speaker 12: Good morning, team.
01:41:49
Speaker 5: Asterix. Tess.
01:41:51
Speaker 2: Thank you.
01:41:52
Speaker 12: There you go.
01:41:53
Speaker 1: One for you to follow, Tess. Let's go to Woodville and give Jill a horse.
01:41:57
Speaker 17: Which one have I got?
01:41:58
Speaker 5: Jill, you've got number seven, Royal Supremacy.
01:42:02
Speaker 15: Is that any good?
01:42:03
Speaker 1: I don't know.
01:42:04
Speaker 5: We'll find out.
01:42:04
Speaker 1: We'll find out this afternoon, Jill. We're the wrong people to ask, unfortunately. And the last horse.
01:42:09
Speaker 5: It's paying $ 51. I'm guessing that's not good.
01:42:11
Speaker 1: Possibly not, Jill. But it is the Melbourne Cup. You never know. And Lindsay is our very last sweeper.
01:42:19
Speaker 9: Good morning.
01:42:19
Speaker 10: Good morning, Lindsay.
01:42:20
Speaker 5: You have number 23, Zakuma.
01:42:24
Speaker 12: Oh, 23. Beautiful.
01:42:25
Speaker 9: Favourite number.
01:42:26
Speaker 6: Oh, good.
01:42:26
Speaker 5: There you go.
01:42:27
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Lindsay.
01:42:28
Speaker 15: Good luck.
01:42:28
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