James Paxton - Actor (Last Train to Fortune) / Musician (Love, Pax)

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This is Jeffrey Blake and you are listening to Fascination
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Street Podcast with the wonderful Steve.
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You already know it when you win from the fastest Street.
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Welcome Backstreet Walkers. This episode is with James Paxton. James
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is an actor and a musician and an artist, and
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we talk about all of those things. We do a
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deep dive into some of his background, his childhood, where
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he grew up, who he grew up with, and then
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what got him into acting. We talked about some of
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his early projects. Of course, his dad is Bill Paxton,
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so we talked a little bit about him as well,
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and then we talk about his music. He is a
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member of two different bands. One is called Sound Days
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and the other one is called Filamingo Dogs. And also
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he has a solo career under the heading of Love Packs.
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He is gracious enough to let me play my favorite
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song so far from Love Packs and I think you're
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gonna dig it. And then we finish up talking about
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this crazy art thing that he does where he fla
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I'll let him tell you. We do have a surprise
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popin guest. Never done that before. It did work out well.
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I was crossing my fingers the whole time. It was
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a surprise for James and we had a guest pop
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in and say hello and give him some love. So
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make sure you hang in there for that too. Follow
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James Paxton everywhere. Check out his music under those three
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different band names I mentioned. And this is my conversation
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with actor, musician and artist James Paxton.
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For beret to be fascinating, for Berett to be fascinating,
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for Beretta to be fascinating.
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Welcome to Fascination Street Podcast. James Paxton, what's up, dude?
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Hey, what's up, Steve? It's good to see you.
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Oh my gosh, it is good to see you too. Man,
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you are way better looking than just the name would
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then the name would suggest. Now it's only because I
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think all people named James are ugly. But apparently now
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I have to reevaluate these thoughts.
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That's an interesting theory.
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So what we're gonna do, James, is we are going
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to talk about you, man. We're going to get to
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know you and some of the things that are you,
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and maybe even if we have time a little more
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about you.
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Absolutely, thank you so much for having me on Fascination Street.
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Oh dude, it's one hundred percent my pleasure. This is
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exciting stuff here. We're going to talk a lot about you.
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But first, what I like to do, James, is I
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like to start from the beginning. It helps us understand
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how the guests got from where they were to where
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they are. So where were we born and raised?
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Man?
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Where'd you grow up?
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I was born and raised in a small town called Ojai, California,
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kind of up between Ventura and Santa Barbara, so about
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an hour and forty minutes north of Los Angeles. Kind
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of a sweet, like little artist community. Kind of a
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hippie kind of vibe there, but it's a melting pot
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because it's far enough out of LA that it feels
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like a world away, but it's not so far that
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you can't get on the road and just get up
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there in a short amount of time. And it's more
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on the map these days. Growing up, everybody thought I
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was like from Ohio or something, you know, when I
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said whereas, it's a small town, but it was a
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wonderful place to grow up. And you know, my parents
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didn't want to raise kids. My sister and I in LA,
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and they wanted to find a community that was within
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striking distance LA, but you know, a good place to
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raise kids and a place where you know, kids can
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can go to the great public schools there, which my
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sister and I did, and just a really sweet kind
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of place to grow up, very kind of you know,
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like farmers market and a lot of outdoor activities hiking
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and horseback riding and camping and stuff. So I grew
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up up there in Ohio, California.
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Well, I'm glad that you were able to get out
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of West Adams and Figueroa.
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Wow, that's incredible that you that you knew that, Steve.
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Thanks.
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Yeah. West Adams in Figaroo was my first the first
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place that I ever lived in Los Angeles. It was
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down by USC because I had two roommates that went
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to USC, one that I met when I moved into
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the apartment. The other one was Lauren Raimie, Sam Raimie's son,
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who we had grown up knowing each other a bit,
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and we both happened to leave NYU at a similar
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time and moved I moved to LA. He moved back
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to LA and I needed roommates. I wasn't going to
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USC I was starting to work on film sets. But
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I needed a place to live and it was West
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Adams in FIGAROA was the place that we signed a
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little lease.
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Yeah, we're gonna go all over the place here. But
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I am currently living in a small town just outside
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of the ten I grew up in, which is called
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San Antonio, Texas.
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Yeah, you're you're in Bernie, right?
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I am in BERNIEE. How do you know that you
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want to fight me?
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Oh?
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How do you know?
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Bro?
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I'm not the only one that does his research. Steve
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oh snap Son?
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Whoa? How do you know? Wow? Okay, well, good on you,
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my man.
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I listen to your podcast and I learned that. You know, obviously,
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I not to interject with what you were going to say,
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but I have a lot of Texas lineage and a
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lot of you know, I've spent a lot of time
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in Texas. I've made numerous films in Texas, and I
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know right where Bernie is actually.
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Oh, kick ass, Well, next time you're coming on through
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holloween a fat kid? I So did you go to
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San Antonio Elementary School?
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That's not real, but I did.
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That's the real thing.
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That's a real thing. I went to San Antonio for
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six years in elementary school.
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That's weird because it's a four year school. No, just kidding.
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They actually just unfortunately shut that down in the Ohi
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Unified School district. I think it's like a charter.
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Oh it was one of like.
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The local elementary public schools in Ohi that my sister
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and I went to. Yeah, San Antonio.
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They shut down all of them, right, all of the
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pub schools or almost all of them.
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No, they just kind of took a bunch of different
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ones and merged them. Okay, not enough kids growing up
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there anymore, unfortunately, because it's so on the map.
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Sure, yeah, now everybody knows where it is and they're like, well,
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I don't want to live there. That's too quaint.
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Well it's unfortunately. The sad things is just people like
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locals are getting priced out. People are buying like second
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homes there. It's a little bit of a plague on
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the town. I'm not going to lie, you know, it's
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really it was a bit more of a family friendly
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place when it was on a lower status on the radar.
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So you know, I don't blame people for discovering what
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a beautiful place it is and everything and wanting to
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be up there. But I wish that, you know, yeah,
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it was still more family friendly for kids grown up.
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So, like you said, I do live in Bernie, Texas
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and around here because we're dealing with kind of the
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similar thing with OHI, where you know, people are getting
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priced out, so they sell t shirts here that say
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Bernie sucks. Tell a friend.
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Yeah, yeah, there's I have a buddy, you know, hi,
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who's actually making shirts that are kind of similar. You know,
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he's real local and trying to Yeah, hey, you know whatever,
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whatever works.
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Yeah, I love it. Bernie sucks. Tell friends. So when
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we first moved here, I would see all these We've
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been living here for about eleven years, and I would
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see all these bumper stickers that said Bernie Texas Gone Forever.
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And I didn't know what that meant because I was like, well,
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where are we? Then I'm confused, and so I followed
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this dude. I know, I's s creepy, but I followed
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this dude like to the gas station, and when he
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got out, I was like, hey man, what does that
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bumper sticker mean?
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You know?
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And he was about one hundred and twenty years old,
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and he said, well, it means that my quaint little
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town is gone because the people like you. And I
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was like, well, you have a good day, sir.
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He didn't mince words.
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No, he was he was tired of my kind. Mm again,
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we're going to go all over the place. But I
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need to know you went to NYU for journalism. How come?
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Yeah, that's a great question. So I wanted to study
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journalism because, you know, after much kind of to do
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about what am I going to do with my life?
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What do I want to do? Trying to think of
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a job or a career path that would allow me
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to always be doing something different and always be learning
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about something new and be able to travel and take
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me places and meet people that I might otherwise not
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have just met. And I kind of fell in love
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with this idea of being, you know, a reporter and
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kind of being on the scene, you know, of wherever
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was breaking news was happening. That's why I decided to
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study journalism. And then when I took a leave of
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absence from school.
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Because you got E Coli, Yes, yeah, I got E Coli.
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Yeah that was terrible. Oh man, I don't mean to laugh,
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but no, no, please laugh. I didn't even know that
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like people could get e COLI like until I got
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it at eighteen years old my freshman year at NYU,
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and I was like, this is a thing. This is off.
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I was at the NYU like student hospital, and I
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was just losing weight so fast, and I was, oh, so,
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I won't go into too many details.
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Oh shit, can I get a ecol kid gets?
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Oh man, there's got to be better ways. This was
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terrible And I was just like falling behind in class
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with that, and it was just like I needed to
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like regroup, and so I came back.
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How long did this last? Like how long was this illness?
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Oh man, it was like a good like three weeks
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of just really sick. Yeah, really terrible.
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I would imagine you'd really fall behind in school. Yeah,
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three weeks.
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I was missing class and it was just like tough.
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I also had a job that I was missing that
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I was out because I was busting tables on the
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weekend at a place called the Minetta Tavern in the
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in the village, and I actually was loving that job.
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It was hard work, but it was a lot of
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fun just being like kind of at this trendy restaurant
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and on the weekends like serving you know, people like
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Jodie Foster and Sign felt.
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You're in the middle of the hustle and bust.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and I kind of enjoyed that education element. Yeah,
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Jodie Foster came in, I bust her plates Common the
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rapper Seinfeld, Like I said, it was, it was amazing,
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and I was really to leave the city, but I
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needed to leave the city regroup, and then I started
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to have second thoughts about going back to the East Coast.
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I was going to go back to school, but I
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didn't want to necessarily go back to the East Coast.
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I moved to LA and that's when I started studying
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in an acting class and working on That's when I
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went to moved to that place in downtown by usc.
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West Adams and Figaro.
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Yeah, yeah, good, yeah, yeah. You done really good research, Steve.
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It's it's amazing. But anyways, yes, I realized that, like
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there's a lot of similarities in terms of being an
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actor and going into journalism because I could, you know,
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always be working on different kinds of projects hopefully you know,
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there's always a big research phase to projects and to
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specific roles sometimes depending on what you're playing, and that
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kind of allowed me to you know, Okay, I can
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still learn about different, you know, things and kinds of people, places,
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I can travel with the job, and I always already
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loved it. I just didn't want to necessarily like follow
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in my father's footsteps at the time. Now I'm like
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a like actively like going against it. Just I just
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didn't really even think it was a possibility until I
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started taking some classes and doing some auditions. And I
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had already done theater throughout high school and kind of
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grew up sort of around it, visiting dad on sets.
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That's why I study journalism. Sorry, I was around about
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the way.
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No, that's okay. You mentioned it a couple of times.
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Let's get it out of the way. You keep saying
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my dad, who's your dad?
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Yeah, so my dad is the actor Bill Paxton. My mom,
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Louise Paxton, is a painter. So I come from you know,
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very artistic people that are very creative, very creative.
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Yeah, I gotta know where your mom's from. Every interview
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I've ever heard you say mom, like, you're from Britain.
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Where is your mom from?
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Yeah? Yeah, my mom is from London. And I grew
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up saying mom probably the only thing that I really say. Actually,
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I say a couple words slightly weirdly. I say vitamin,
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which is a strange way to pronounce vitamin.
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It definitely is. But mom is the one that sticks out.
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Mom's the one that sticks out. That's the one that
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I have to actively, like, when I'm doing scenes with
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like a TV or film, mom, I have to say
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mom and really like remind myself to saeg.
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Why do you think it is that that's the only word? Really? Like,
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what why do you think that is? How come we
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don't have a whole bunch of other londonisms? You know?
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I have a few. I mean I said to Tomato
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when like for a long time until I basically it
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was basically like you know, at school, they were just
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why do you keep fucking saying it that way? And
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I'm just like, well, yeah, okay, and then I and
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then I stopped saying it that way. So ever since
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I was like six months old, we visit the UK
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all the time. My grandmother's still alive, My cousins are
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over there, my aunt and uncle. We see them all
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the time. Especially since Dad passed, we started going over
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there for the holidays. But growing up, I was just
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always there. So I do have things that come out
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a little more when I'm over in the UK. I
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kind of just subconsciously, you kind of, you know. I
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think as humans, we all sub consciously try to assimilate
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to where we are for extended periods of times, for sure,
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and I'll do that like with the UK. But but
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it was just a habit thing ever since a kid.
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I just I just was always calling her mom. I
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think it's because my cousin and my cousins do.
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That, and I'm probably watching your mom do that, right,
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Your mom was talking to her parents or her mom
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makes sense exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, she calls her mom. Yeah, my mom still
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has an accent. It's a bit watered down. It's more
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transatlantic these days because she spent more time in the States,
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like in her life than she has in in the
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UK after meeting my dad. But when she goes back
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there it comes out even stronger as well. And so
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and any American that would meet her today would would
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really clock it. You know, it'd be like obvious to
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them that she's got an accent.
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That's hilarious. Yeah, yeah, So you decide you're going to
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get into acting, and your dad says, look, if you're
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going to do this, you got to do it. You
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can't fuck her own. You got to take classes. You've
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got to learn the art. You have to be skilled,
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not just some fly by night crackhead.
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That's exactly how he said it to me.
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Yeah. Is that when you got Vincent Chase as your
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acting coach?
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Yeah? So another great question.
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So Vincent hold on, So everybody listening, just so you know,
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it's not the Vincent Chase from Entourage. This is an
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actual person named Vincent Chase.
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Yes, this is an actual person named Vincent Chase, and
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there is a connection to Entourage, though the main character
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around Entourage. His name inspiration was taken from my acting coach,
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Vincent Chase. It was because my dad did a movie
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that he produced in the early nineties called Traveler, and
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he had been auditioning some younger actors to play. It
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was about these these travelers, these gypsy con men cousins. Basically,
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there's a young guy who meets his older cousin who
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my dad plays the older cousin, Baki. My dad had
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been producing this film. He kind of co directed it. Honestly,
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but kind of gave the director credit officially to Jack Green,
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who was Clint Easwood's longtime DP. And Dad got all
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this great director experience, but he was a lead. He
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produced it. It was like he was really getting into
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He really was involved in every aspect of making this film.
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He had read all these different actors. He had cast
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Stephen Dorf in the part of the young guy, the
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young co lead. Dorf got a Jack Nicholson movie last minute,
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had to drop out, and Dad met this young actor
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named Mark Wahlberg who had done maybe two films at
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the time, like Basketball Diaries and I forgetting what the
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other one was. But he was really young, and Dad
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was like, we got to cast this guy. And Vincent
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Chase was my dad's longtime acting coach that he met
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through Michael Bean and Rick Rossovich out in LA when
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he first moved out here after leaving the East Coast
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studying under Stelle Adler. Dad cast Vince to play like
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the bad guy. Vince did very little actual on screen
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acting in his career, but he was a magnificent acting
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coach who he came up like in the Pasadena Playhouse
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and stuff, and Dad and him were just so close
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and so he played the bad guy and he met
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Mark Wahlberg and he coached Mark on that film. And
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Mark always loved the name, thought it would be perfect
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for Entourage, and so he, you know, he asked Vince
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to can I take the name? You know? And Vince
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was like, yes, son, sure you can use it. He
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kind of spoke like that, you know, yes, my son, yes.
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And he was a sweet, sweet guy. He was like
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my great godfather. He lived. I studied with him till
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he passed away in twenty eighteen, at oh wow, eighty
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eight years old. I studied with him all the time.
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For like five years. I was in class like three
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nights a week with him, and I would study one
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on one all the time. When I moved to La
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he really I was just always at Vince's house. So
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he had a long time acting studio on Sunset and
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then in his older years he moved it to his
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living room in his little place on Detroit Street in
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West Hollywood. Did classes about eight to ten students a night,
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sometimes less, sometimes give or take a few more, but
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it was mostly the same faces, you know. And he
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taught me basically everything I know and everything that I
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use technique, wise, he was a melting pot of all
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the different teachers, Adler Meisner, all the main ones. He
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kind of took what he thought worked and then put
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it all together, and he would kind of tailor it too,
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depending on the student how they learned things. But he
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taught me everything I mean. And so anyways, he is
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connected to he's the name inspiration for Adrian Spirit.
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So you learned all that from Vincent Chase. But what
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did you learn while you were tiling Phil collins house?
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How did you find this stuff?
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Stee, I'm friends with Phil Collins. No I'm not, but
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I will tell you we have it. We do have
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a Phil Collins connection because you tiled his house and
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I'm from San Antonio and he is a huge fan
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of the Alamo and the Battle of the Alamo.
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Oh I heard this. Actually, yeah, he.
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Had like a multimillion dollar collection of Alamo memorabilia, like
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archives and like I just all this crazy archaeological dig shit,
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and he donated all of it to the Alamo.
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Which that's so cool.
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There's like this whole building that's like the Phil Collins collection.
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Wow, that's crazy. I was there doing research with my
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dad when he was going to play Sam Houston in
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this History Channel mini series called Texas Rising. I went
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to where the Alamo was with him. This was in
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twenty fourteen that we were doing that research and we
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went on this crazy kind of Maybe that was before
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Phil had donated all that stuff. But I didn't directly
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tile Phil Collins's house. I did the glaze on the tiles.
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No, that's not how I'm telling the story.
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Like, there's a place called artk Studio in Ohi and
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I was looking for work. I was like nineteen and
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I was looking for some work and I apprenticed a tilemaker,
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Richard Kite, who owns that, and he had all his
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own kind of formulas for these glazes, and he showed
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me at a tile and so I just sit there
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and it was really kind of methodical and like a meditation.
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I would just fill different colored glazes in these tiles
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and then i'd fire them and stuff, and I worked
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on tons of them for a job for Phil Collins House.
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Yeah that's pretty sick.
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I don't know how big into music you are. But
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have you ever heard of an interviewer named nardwar Okay?
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So I did hear about this person only because about
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a year ago I was having a conversation such as
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we are now and the guy goes, bro, are you
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Nard Warring me right now? And I go, what the
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hell does that mean? Yeah? Oh, never mind? So then
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I had to look it up.
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Yeah. Yeah, so Nard war he you know, he does
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his research just like you know, like you do, and
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pulls some really deep cuts out. And I always love
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his interviews and stuff, so it's really cool to do that.
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Does he get to say stuff like this, oh, Texas
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Rising two previous guests of my show, we're in that
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film with your father?
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No, he doesn't. I think he just you know, keeps
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it to musicians. But who are those guests?
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Courtney Gaines? Courtney Gaines was a guy who played I
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know who he is. Yeah, oh you okay? Good?
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Oh yeah, yeah, I met Courtney. I spent time with.
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Courtney also a musician.
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Yeah yeah. I was at actually supposed to do a
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film with Courtney November of twenty twenty four and it
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fell apart like a week and a half before we
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were supposed to be in New Mexico shooting. It was
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called Dirt and just indie films, you know, but it's
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gonna get to finally work with him. But I remember
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I met him in twenty fourteen when we were down
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in Mexico shooting that and stuff.
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And oh well then you probably met the other guy
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previous guests to the show, Jeffrey Blake.
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Yeaheah. I know Jeff really well. He was close with
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my dad and dad. Actually, Jeff was up for his
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audition in Texas rising and Dad, you know, put in
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a good word for him, and I think kind of,
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you know, they reunited on that. They were old friends.
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Very cool. All right, We're going to talk about more
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things that are specific to you, like, for instance, you
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and your dad got kicked out of a theater for
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sneaking into one of your dad's own movies.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, what movie was? It, do you remember,
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Not sure how you found that info.
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I'm friends with the theater owner.
488
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Yeah.
489
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Yeah. So like this theater that we would go to
490
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a lot was in Ventura on Main Street, and often
491
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we'd see movies there and sometimes Dad would like to
492
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as soon as one was over, he'd be like, let's
493
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:05.680
duck in and watch a little piece of this one,
494
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and we would jump into another screening room and sit
495
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where there was an open seat, and you know, got
496
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:13.640
away with it quite a lot. But he would also
497
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:15.839
love to do that when he had one of his
498
00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.559
own films out and he liked to sit in the
499
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back and just kind of watch the audience, you know,
500
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get a little taste of how the film is actually
501
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.319
playing out in the wild. And nobody knew that he
502
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.400
was in there, you know. So we did that once,
503
00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:32.279
I think for greatest game ever played. And we got
504
00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.400
pulled out of the theater and Dad didn't want to
505
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.519
make a big thing of it, so he just said, yeah, yeah,
506
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we'll get out, we'll get out here, and we just
507
00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:40.559
and we took off. But yeah, they didn't even realize
508
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:41.759
like that it was his film.
509
00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:43.119
That is so funny.
510
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:45.960
I have a funny little story actually another moment that
511
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:48.240
was similar to this, but it's really funny. We were
512
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.640
at Universal Studios once for my sister's birthday and Dad
513
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.720
had called to, you know, hook up a kind of
514
00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.640
a nice like VIP experience for Lydia. She was probably
515
00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:02.759
twelve years old or something. We went with our godsister Dina.
516
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We were walking like down to there's like I don't
517
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:07.920
know if you've ever been to Universal Studios, but there's
518
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:09.880
like a bit there's a lot of different tiers and
519
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.599
there's a big lookout where they used to have Dad,
520
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:16.079
Tom Hanks and Kevin Bacon from Apoll thirteen all like
521
00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:19.640
a giant cutout, all in their space suits, and people
522
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:21.599
would take photos with them a lot and stuff. They're
523
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.759
not there anymore, unfortunately, but they were there for probably
524
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.160
twenty years, I don't know long time. These ladies who
525
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.640
are clearly visiting from some other country like in Asia somewhere,
526
00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.079
came up to Dad and said, oh, can you please
527
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.160
take a picture of us with And he had his
528
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:37.279
cap and his hat on, and they didn't have no
529
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:40.839
idea that they were talking to the guy and asking
530
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:42.960
the guy who they're taking a picture with in the
531
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:45.839
cutout to take a picture of them that is hilarious
532
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.880
and dad never broke he said, yeah, of course, of
533
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.079
course he took the photo and they never knew and
534
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:51.200
it was just a funny memory.
535
00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:54.640
App that's awesome. I love that. What's it like to
536
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:57.480
be directed by Fred Durst?
537
00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:01.079
Fred Durst, he's such a film fina, which is a funny.
538
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.640
He directed this film called The Fanatic that I was
539
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.079
in with John Travalta, and he himself is a film fanatic.
540
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:09.599
His first film, The Education of Charlie Banks, was with
541
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:12.599
Jason Ridder and Jesse Eisenberg, young in their careers, and.
542
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:16.359
It's Jason Ridder Jason Ritter, you mean two time previous guests.
543
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:17.799
I'm sorry, I'll stop doing that.
544
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:19.079
Oh really? Was he on too?
545
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:20.720
Yeah? I love you.
546
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.400
I'ven't seen Jason in forever. No, No, it's okay, that's great.
547
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:26.400
I'm glad that you're you know, I'm in some good
548
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.200
company here. I love Jason. So yeah, I love that film.
549
00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:32.000
And Fred was you know, he got a lot of
550
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.880
praise for it. He's he's a real like student of film,
551
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.079
and uh, being directed by him was like, you know,
552
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.119
he takes it seriously and he's he's very present with you,
553
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:43.440
he gives you ideas. It was a pleasure. I got
554
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.400
to say it was. It was a total pleasure working
555
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:46.079
with Fred Durst.
556
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:49.519
Nice. Tell me about Philip Newbold Rylander.
557
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:55.920
Philip Newbold Rylander. Wow, that's crazy that that's I think
558
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.079
that's somebody that I did a paper about when I
559
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:02.240
was in high school who died in World War One.
560
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.400
That's such a crazy like that's bringing back, that's going
561
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.880
back along a long ways. I went to a boarding
562
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.119
school for a while. That was, how come, how come?
563
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:14.319
Why did you go to boarding school? I mean, you
564
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.319
seemed happy as shit you, OHI at the public school system.
565
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:18.480
Why'd you go to boarding school?
566
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:21.240
Exactly? I was, And in a lot of ways, I
567
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:24.480
should have just stayed in that system, so OHI has
568
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.400
when it comes to high school, it has like four
569
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:31.240
or five different like really kind of renowned like preparatory
570
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:34.359
boarding schools and high schools. At the time, my parents
571
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:36.680
just felt that I would be able to get like
572
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.359
the best education if I could get to if I
573
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.920
could go to Thatcher, the boarding school in the town.
574
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.480
And I had a couple friends that I grew up
575
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.000
with who hear their parents were like teachers there and
576
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.480
stuff that I've known since like preschool. They were all
577
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.519
going there, some of my closest friends. So so yeah,
578
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:54.640
that's when I actually left the public school system and
579
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:57.319
went to a private school for high school. The school
580
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.119
goes way back and it had, you know, people that
581
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.680
went to school there through the World Wars, and they
582
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.400
had a dedication to our you know, the students that
583
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:10.079
had died in those wars. And one of the assignments
584
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.480
was to go pick a name and then do some
585
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:16.039
research on that name and that person. And I picked
586
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:20.160
Philip Nubold Rylander, who was shot down if I remember correctly,
587
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.759
in combat out of the air over France. That's going
588
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:26.839
so far back, but that's about as much as I
589
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:27.599
remember about that.
590
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.279
Well, that's fantastic. I'm glad. I asked. Now, I'm gonna
591
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.799
do something that I've never done before. So let's see
592
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:34.440
if this works. Okay, are you ready?
593
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:44.279
Okay? No way? Jeff? Yeah, baby, Hey man, Hey, how
594
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.039
are you Mipelle? What's going on?
595
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:48.559
I heard my friend Steve O was avenue on.
596
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:49.920
I said, I'd love to say hello.
597
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.559
So how we were just singing your praises and talked
598
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.640
a little bit about that amazing summer down in Mexico
599
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:56.720
on Texas Rising.
600
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:58.160
It was amazing.
601
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.880
It was certainly it was so epic. Yeah, and I
602
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:03.960
want to thank you, you know, for your recent you know,
603
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.160
remembrance of Dad and everything. Always brother he's your dad,
604
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:08.720
is like the brother I never had and I have
605
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:16.680
a brother. Yeah, no, I was that was great. I
606
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.039
have a memory Jeff of like you needed to do
607
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.640
a tape down in Mexico and you had me kind
608
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.599
of film you out in the hotel outside and did
609
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.920
that tape. I remember that vividly and everything. I was
610
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.480
soaking up so much, so much game at the time,
611
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:31.079
you know, from all these Yeah I.
612
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:31.599
Got the job.
613
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.400
Yeah, oh yeah, you you did get the job. I
614
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.400
remember that. I remember we celebrated. Yeah, yeah, it was great. Well,
615
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:38.839
we did a lot of celebrating. We did a lot
616
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.079
of celebrating. Absolutely, this is so wild, Steve. Have you
617
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.519
never like tapped in a guest surprise.
618
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.920
I've never done this before ever.
619
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.759
Wow. I just had to talk to you manas in
620
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:51.720
you in a while, and because you know, the monumental
621
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.960
day those two days ago. So yeah, thank you so much, Jeff.
622
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.799
I appreciate that. I love you.
623
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.359
Kick me up when you get back in town. I'm
624
00:28:58.359 --> 00:28:59.720
not feeling like i'at today either, but I want to
625
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:00.960
make sure didn't miss this.
626
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:03.880
Okay, thanks Jeff, well'll let you go. Thanks so much
627
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.319
for coming in and saying hi. Love you too, by
628
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.079
the way, great kid, great guy. He was a great son.
629
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.920
And he's also a great actor. Thanks.
630
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.200
He is a great and a great musician. And Jeffrey
631
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:15.920
is the one who turned me on to your music.
632
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.319
Yeah, oh wow, thank you, thanks Jeff.
633
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.880
Yeah. I told him you were coming on and he said, well,
634
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.599
you got to check out his music first. Yeah, like,
635
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.519
all right, that man, Xander and you should get together.
636
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.599
He's big. I was gonna say, your son is incredible musician.
637
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:29.119
He just released his first album.
638
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:29.599
He's doing great.
639
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:30.599
You guys would be great together.
640
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.440
Yeah, I would love that. I'd love that. But I'd
641
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.640
love to see you sometime. Let's let's stay in touch.
642
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:35.279
Of course, buddy.
643
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.720
All right, all right you guys, Jeff Thanks Jeffrey, I
644
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:37.920
love you.
645
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:42.359
Yeah, that was incredible. What a surprise, man, that was awesome.
646
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.400
So he woke up and he wasn't feeling very well,
647
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.480
so I didn't know if he was gonna be able
648
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:46.640
to make it, but I didn't want to spoil the
649
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:47.440
surprise though.
650
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.359
Dude, thank you so much, Steve. That was really cool.
651
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.839
That was really cool. Take that Nard War Yeah, exactly,
652
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:57.960
do this amazing.
653
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:06.720
Hey, street walkers, here's a word from our sponsors. Let's
654
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:07.720
get back into it.
655
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:14.599
Let's talk about some things. A while ago, you were
656
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:20.759
working on a quote gutter trash Shakespeare heroin tail feature. Yeah,
657
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.920
what does that mean? And did you ever? How's it going?
658
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:24.599
How's it coming?
659
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:26.960
That's going back a long time. That was my first
660
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.279
lead in a feature ever. Really, yeah, that was I
661
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.799
shot that in twenty fifteen.
662
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:33.599
Oh shit.
663
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.720
It was an super indie film called Boogeyman Pop. We
664
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.480
went up to Bend, Oregon and shot it.
665
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:40.240
I just had some friends move there.
666
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:41.599
Oh oh yeah, yeah.
667
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.039
Ben's cool from like the Houston area. They're like, fuck
668
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:46.559
this and they went to Bend, Orgon.
669
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:48.759
Yeah, Ben's a good spot. I could see you want
670
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.039
to go from No Offense to Houston, but it's going
671
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.480
from there to Bend. It's so green and beautiful. That
672
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:56.759
was my first film that I ever actually also was
673
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.240
like producing and I finished the film. We ran out
674
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.640
of money. We were like two thirds of the way finished,
675
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.200
and we took it to Blumhouse and sold it to Blumhouse. Oh,
676
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.440
they gave us a little more to finish it. I
677
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.680
was already wrapped out. The storytelling was elliptical, so it
678
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.079
was all about one the first night of summer break
679
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.799
and through the perspective of these three different main characters,
680
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.640
the story keeps looping back to this same moment, but
681
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.880
then following one of those characters. It's a really imaginative
682
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.240
wild movie. It's about kids and just set in like
683
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.880
a dead end kind of Pacific Northwest, like nowhere kids
684
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.240
type of town, and they all want to get out
685
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.599
of there. They're all like, you know, doing drugs. That's
686
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.079
why it's like this gut or trash kind of punk
687
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.759
rock thing. They're all into punk and stuff. But it
688
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.240
was beautiful writing. That's why I put the Shakespeare in there.
689
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.160
And unfortunately there was some issues with like an investor
690
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.720
or something, and the film was sold to Shutter but
691
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.119
then there was an adequate paperwork to finish the sale,
692
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.839
and Blumhouse shelved it and it did film festivals and
693
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.279
never got a public release.
694
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.680
Wasn't adequate paperwork.
695
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.079
Yeah, Like the record keeping wasn't done too well, I
696
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.200
think in terms of the actual filming. I mean it
697
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:12.960
was like gorilla filmmaking.
698
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.680
Right, it's an indy film, Bob Surprise, there's any paperwork exactly.
699
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:18.559
I mean it was it was like, you know, the
700
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.920
kind of thing where like we threw an actual punk
701
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.559
rock like concert with these this band called the Beer
702
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.480
Slayers and all the kids. All they had to do
703
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.400
was like who were extras there? They had to show up,
704
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.440
show an ID, sign a waiver and they basically just
705
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.440
got paid in like free beer and jumped around listen
706
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.519
to music and we filmed, you know, and I did
707
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.640
like I was in a mosh pit scene and all
708
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:42.880
this stuff, and it was that kind of thing and
709
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.160
and it was so fun and I learned so much
710
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.000
on that job. It's a sore spot just because it
711
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.119
never got a release. And I'm really proud of it.
712
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.680
I mean, Blumhouse put out the trailer and everything on
713
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.559
their like YouTube channel, and it was supposed to come out.
714
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.400
It did great at like Fantastic fest and different festivals. Anyways,
715
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.599
it played bunch of festivals and I'm hoping one day
716
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.680
it comes out. So that's that's a movie. That's you know,
717
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.839
one day, maybe somebody can get the rights back. Maybe
718
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.400
Brad Almore, the director and writer, can get it back
719
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:12.440
and put it out somehow.
720
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.359
Well, I'm glad I could bring up a touchy subject.
721
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.400
I just I just love the film and it was Yeah,
722
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.720
it was like kind of like the beginning of my career.
723
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.319
And anyways, bogy Man pop Let's resurrect it one.
724
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.240
Day, hotly, Fuck that was you? Whoa what do you mean,
725
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.920
Ladies and gentlemen, we have royalty here. Oh my gosh, royalty.
726
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.200
You voiced Kim Cattrall's character's son on the Hulu hit
727
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.079
series How I Met Your Father. I did fucking love
728
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:39.759
that show. Bro.
729
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.920
Yeah, yeah, that was a great job. I'm at liberty
730
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:45.960
to speak of it now. But at the time I
731
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.279
couldn't reveal that I was the voice of the Unseen
732
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.640
Sun because they it was a whole mystery about who
733
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.279
the dad could be. They don't want anybody knowing like
734
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.720
the ethnicity or anything, because it might inform like who
735
00:33:57.799 --> 00:33:58.880
who the dad could be.
736
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.640
That makes sense because in the original series, everybody on
737
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:03.920
the show, like How I Met Your Mother, everybody was white,
738
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.319
so it didn't really matter. You couldn't you couldn't play
739
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.719
a guessing game. But on How I Met your Father,
740
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.719
everybody was not white. There was a bunch of different ethnicities,
741
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.239
So that makes sense that it would be under wraps
742
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:15.880
for that. That makes sense. I didn't think about that.
743
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.679
That's cool exactly. I remember I had submitted the audition.
744
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.760
I had done two takes into my phone of my voice.
745
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.760
I was traveling back to New York and I had
746
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.159
forgotten to get the audition in on time, and I
747
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.480
was like, fuck, like I'm a day late here, and
748
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.599
I asked my manager. I said, can I still send
749
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:34.079
you this? I'll do it. I'll do it right now.
750
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.360
I literally did it in my car the moment I
751
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.800
got home, because it's kind of like a nice little soundbox.
752
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:40.599
But they said, yeah, it's fine, it's fine. And then
753
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.039
I didn't hear anything for like maybe two months, and
754
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:45.880
then one day I get woken up kind of early
755
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.599
in the morning. My agents, my managers are all on
756
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:50.760
the call, and they said, hey, you got the job.
757
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.760
You got you got How I Met your Father? And
758
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:56.360
I go, I go, what what? What job? Because I
759
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.760
literally had done it so fast that I didn't know
760
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.400
exactly what it was. You know, I submit a lot
761
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.360
of auditions, a lot of audition tapes. They're like, it's
762
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.360
you got the voice roll, but it's a live action show.
763
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.599
But I was like, wait, what is this, Like how
764
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.920
how is this gonna work? And but it's like you
765
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.079
creatively have to be uncredited on the show even though
766
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.679
you're gonna be in every episode and everything. I go, okay,
767
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.159
this is this is just this unusual thing. And then
768
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:22.840
I looked into it and I was like, oh, yeah,
769
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.159
I remember this. Oh I remember the original show. Okay, okay,
770
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.400
this is making sense. And then it was so beautiful,
771
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.800
like how they had me on the show because they
772
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.719
allowed me instead of having to do this in like
773
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.920
some adr booth by myself, they allowed me to come
774
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.840
on a set with Kim Catrol and so my whole
775
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.880
recording was done there with Kim just off camera. They
776
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.800
just tilted. They just gave her an eyeline. I had
777
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.079
my my lines. I was on the sound stage with
778
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.519
her all day. They just tilted one of those stage
779
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.280
boom mics over to me. I didn't even have to
780
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.400
like re memorize my lines that I had a trailer. Everything.
781
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.440
It was like so I was like a regular on
782
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.599
the show. But it was awkward because I couldn't talk
783
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.920
about it while the show was on, so everybody was guessing.
784
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.719
It was kind of fun though. I kind of loved
785
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.239
that element that nobody really knew. But you could hear
786
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.559
my voice in all the episodes and I got to
787
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:15.400
know Kim really well.
788
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:16.719
How did they credit you?
789
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.079
They didn't. It just ended up on I was able
790
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.280
to end up talking about it legally once the show
791
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.199
like concluded, because they shut it down during the strike unfortunately,
792
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.840
which it was doing very well. It was just, you know,
793
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.480
I think it was a costly show. They were cutting
794
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.000
back a lot of things. It was one of the
795
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.880
most watched shows on Hulu during its run. We did
796
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:36.880
ten episodes in the first season and then got the
797
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.360
second season picked up for twenty for the second so
798
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.000
I did thirty episodes of that show and they just
799
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.639
couldn't credit me in the actual credits, so it just
800
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.599
ended up on IMDb, I think as on credit.
801
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:50.519
So you just weren't like there's just no mention at
802
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.519
all of you. Like, if I'm watching the show and
803
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.760
I'm waiting for the credits, You're just not there.
804
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.079
Yeah, I'm just not there. It was it was part
805
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.159
of the deal terms because they were like, you know,
806
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:01.880
I'm sorry, we have to do this. It's just like
807
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.360
we really want to keep the audience on their toes
808
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.320
and not not give anything away. And I said, you know,
809
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.840
I totally understand. You know, I got to know Hillary
810
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:11.960
Duff on that show and Kim especially, and I'd go
811
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:13.840
to the rat parties and hang out with the cast
812
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.360
and stuff. It was a bit it was a bit funny,
813
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.159
like because I just I was a part of it,
814
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:20.639
but I also felt like I wasn't. But it was
815
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.360
a great job, wonderful people. Yeah, I wish it was
816
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:24.679
still going on today.
817
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.440
Do you know where Hillary Duff lived right before she
818
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:29.639
moved to Los Angeles.
819
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.639
I believe she lived in Bernie, Texas.
820
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.559
She did live in Bernie, Texas. You son of a gun.
821
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.960
I listened to the year episode of Bobby.
822
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:39.440
Who played her dad on Lizie McGuire.
823
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.880
Of course, yeah, and I and honestly I didn't. I
824
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.719
gotta say though, you you I learned that through your
825
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.440
your podcast, so.
826
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:47.639
So did he.
827
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:49.519
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
828
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:54.320
Now you also you were the lead in a TV
829
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.039
show on USA Network called Eyewitness.
830
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.400
Eyewitness. Yeah. It was a limited series a ten episode
831
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:02.800
limited series TV show.
832
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:04.760
Yeah, so what was it like being the captain of
833
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:05.119
the ship.
834
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.159
That was incredible. Eyewitness remains like one of my I mean,
835
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.639
every job is special, and I'm grateful for every job,
836
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.679
but obviously some are just a bit more special because
837
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.239
of the timing, what they represent, what it was like
838
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:21.280
the experience eyewitnesses like in my top three favorite projects
839
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.679
that I've ever gotten to do. It was my first
840
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.920
real real job and my first real break, as they
841
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.880
would say, Like, I had been auditioning really really regularly
842
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.679
for about two years, getting closer and closer I'd get callbacks,
843
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.960
wasn't quite landing anything, and then I was really feeling
844
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.960
quite ill one morning and I almost passed on this audition.
845
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:43.760
I tried to reschedule it, and they couldn't have rescheduled
846
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.960
it because whatever reason, they were moving to the next
847
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:47.840
stage and they were seeing this last round of actors.
848
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.719
So I pushed through, went to do it. Found out
849
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.280
that Catherine Hardwick was actually in the room with the
850
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:55.599
casting director. I didn't know that the director was could
851
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:58.400
be in the room. I immediately start going into the audition.
852
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.400
I'm like two lines into the audition, into the first
853
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.599
scene and Catherine stops me. I'm like, oh fuck. I'm like,
854
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.079
I'm screwing this up right now. Like I'm just I'm
855
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.480
already like shot myself in the foot. I feel sick,
856
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.760
like I shouldn't be here. She gives me some direction.
857
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:14.800
I go, I get a little further into the scene.
858
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.440
She stops me again. I'm like, I'm fucked. I'm fucked.
859
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.320
She has me do it again. I get through a scene,
860
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.800
I do a few others. It's the most unorthodox way
861
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.079
I've ever been casting a show.
862
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.079
Was she giving you notes every time she stopped? Was
863
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:26.920
she giving you direction?
864
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.599
She was giving me direction and really really detailed notes,
865
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.639
like very specific stuff. And I found out it was
866
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:36.280
because I think she just she liked something about me
867
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.400
wanted me to come back, because she said at the
868
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:40.400
end of that, she said, hey, I know this is
869
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.079
a little unorthodox, but I'm doing chemistry reads with a
870
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.480
number of actors with the other lead actor that they've
871
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:49.760
already cast at my house tomorrow in Venice. Can you
872
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.679
come and right there in the audition room, I said, yeah, yeah,
873
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.559
of course I'll come. So I did another round the
874
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.840
next day, like reading with the actual other actor, and
875
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.079
then I got back for another. It kept they kept
876
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.039
whittling it down. I was like, fuck, I'm really getting
877
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.239
close here. And then I had a meeting with the
878
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.320
show runner and creator the show at his house and
879
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.639
I was like, Okay, I'm really close now, but I
880
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.880
was getting nervous. And then I was The day after
881
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.800
that meeting, I was I used to work for a
882
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:17.440
catering company called Wo Nelly. We do like a lot
883
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.239
of weddings and events, and I was working a wedding
884
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:22.719
with the director of Boogeyman Pot. We were all, you know,
885
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.639
all of us who came up together. We were all
886
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.000
doing catering jobs and things like that. I finished that,
887
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.079
I told I told my friend. I was like, I'm
888
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.559
really close here, I'm really close. And then and he's
889
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:33.679
like I got my fingers crossed. The next night and
890
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.480
driving to acting class at Vince's and I get the
891
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.760
call that like they're like pull over right now. All
892
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.079
my reps are on it. I was like, this is
893
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:45.719
either great news or bad news. And I booked a job,
894
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:49.119
and I remember I was so happy. I ran across.
895
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.280
I used to park in this McDonald's parking lot down
896
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.960
the street from Vince before they started ticketing people, and
897
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.159
I remember jumping out and screaming and running across the
898
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.480
parking lot and then I just doubled over and vomited
899
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.199
because I was so excited in times of extreme happiness
900
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:05.719
or extreme sadness.
901
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:06.920
Grew up in the McDonald's parking lot.
902
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:08.719
I threw up in the McDonald's parking lot and some
903
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:10.320
bushies yeah, next to the parker.
904
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.119
Sure pastors by were like, yeah, that tracks.
905
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.840
Yeah, that tracks. Yeah. Yeah the Hollywood, like in the
906
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.480
middle of Hollywood. And you know, in times of extreme
907
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:24.000
like excitement or extreme sadness, I get really dry, heavy
908
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.960
and pukey. It's just a weird natural thing. But anyways,
909
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.159
I could hardly sit through that acting class that night.
910
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:31.800
I can't even believe you went.
911
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:34.360
Yeah, I went, and I was just like, holy fuck,
912
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.119
because it was straight to pick up. Not only did
913
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.559
I book a pilot that pilot season, I booked the
914
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.320
whole show. They had already like funded it. I was
915
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.159
headed to Canada for four months and it was amazing
916
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.079
being in that kind of role. I loved the whole cast.
917
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.280
I was working opposite Julianne Nicholson, who I still am
918
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.360
pretty sure she's the finest actor I've ever really gotten
919
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:56.119
to work with. I've worked with a lot of great ones,
920
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.039
but I think she might be the best that I've
921
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.800
worked with personally. You know, I love all of her work.
922
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:02.760
I'm so happy to see her go on to like
923
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.440
win you know, Emmy's and stuff. I mean, like she's
924
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.000
just so great. That was life changing. I remember Dad
925
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.239
was like I told him and he couldn't He really
926
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.760
couldn't believe it. There was a mostly a huge sense
927
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.239
of relief from him. He was like, okay, like you
928
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.400
can all right, this is I guess you know, you're
929
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:18.960
off to the races now. And he said, this is
930
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.280
a real ticket to ride. Was his terminology for it,
931
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.400
which was basically like you're this is a big a
932
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:27.280
big league's thing, you know, so fuck it up basically,
933
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.840
But also he was like it's It was a relief
934
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.320
because I think, you know, he knew you have connections
935
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.280
and you have advantages of course when you were related
936
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.199
to people. But you know, he struggled so much through
937
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.159
his career. I just don't think he wanted to necessarily
938
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.199
see me really commit to this career. That's why he
939
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.679
got really serious when I first was interested in it
940
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:48.960
and saying you gotta go study with Vince. You got
941
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.760
to buckle down. You should get some film set experience.
942
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.079
I don't care what that is. You know, that's why
943
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.920
I worked. You know, I've worked different departments on film sets.
944
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.360
I've done props, I've done crafty, I've done I've been
945
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.039
a production assistant numerous times.
946
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:02.199
You know.
947
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.079
It was just like be on set, learn this. So
948
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.119
I went as blew the door like wide open. For me.
949
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.239
It was like I've got something to build on here.
950
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:13.320
And it was such special writing. I'm so near and
951
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:16.599
dear to the character and I witness is just so
952
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.239
special in so many ways for me. I'll never forget it.
953
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.480
It was the greatest first job, first big job any
954
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:23.280
actor could have.
955
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:24.800
I love that for you.
956
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:25.519
Thank you.
957
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:33.880
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and thinking you're cooler than you actually are. If you
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find yourself experiencing any of these symptoms, stop what you're
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doing immediately and download Fascinations Tree podcast. Ask your podcaster
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a Fascination Tree podcast is right for you? Spoiler alert
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it is.
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Let's get back into it.
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So a few weeks ago, on April seventeenth, you had
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a film hit the theaters called Last Train to Fortune.
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Oh my gosh, bro, you're getting to work with Malcolm
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McDowell and Mary Stevers and Bernadette Peters. Tell me why
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this film is so important to you?
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Last Train to Fortune. Like I was saying earlier about Eyewitness,
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you know, you can count those those special jobs really
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on one hand, and Last Train is right there in
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my top few jobs I've ever done. I mean, I've
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never carried a film or lived with a film for
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so long and so to see it come out into
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the world is like, it's just this huge relief and
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release for me because I believed in this film since
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twenty eighteen when I was first to pro coach to
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do it, and we developed it for years before the
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timing was right. With everything, I can't even describe what
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an arrival it is for me to see it come
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out into the world and to have worked with Malcolm
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McDowell on set first and last out every day with
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Malcolm was like just stepping into a masterclass with one
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of my favorite actors of all time. Every day. I
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just could not come close to describing it. It's such
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a special film. It's a family friendly western that has
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such a positive and uplifting message about it, and it's
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a real love letter to great mentors and teachers and
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talks all about the you know, having an appreciation for
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reading and how books can you know, can take you anywhere.
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But it's also funny. It's just it's not preachy. It's
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got tons of heart, last trained of fortune. Please, yeah,
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everybody go see it. I'm immensely proud of it.
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If you happen to have missed it while it was
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in theaters, it will be on vod in early May,
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so definitely check it out wherever you can find it,
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maybe a mother's before that Grind was it south By
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Southwest bromm hmm, check you out. You're all over the place.
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Thanks Steve. Yeah, Grind premiered at south By Southwest. Grind
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is like a horror satire. It's like a very dark
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comedy with fantastical horror elements. It's an anthology story with
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three different kind of main stories, and I appear in
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two of them. Super proud of that one as well.
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A lot of fun to shoot that. I've done a
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lot of work in the past, like three and a
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half years, four years, and so much of it has
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taken so long to make its way into the world,
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As is the nature with independent film in today's day
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and age. You're never quite finished shepherding a film out
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into the world, even after you've finished filming it. That's
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just sort of the beginning of a whole nother process.
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I'm happy to be. Yeah, like you said, all over
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the place with these releases right now, it's been a
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long culmination of like you know, a lot of work
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that I've done in the past three and a half years.
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Well, you're working your little heine off.
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My man can't complain. That's right.
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Let's talk about music, yes, please, I don't want to
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talk about Flamingo dogs. Just kidding. I want to talk
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all about flamingo dogs.
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Flamigo dogs. Yes, thanks for asking. Flamingo Dogs is my
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oldest musical collaboration. It's a duo that I have with
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my oldest friend in the world, Jared McGill. We went
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to preschool together in middle school at a school called
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Matillaha in OHI. We were getting really into music at
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the time. I was always exposed to different music growing up,
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so is he. But we were getting into it in like, okay,
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we actively are like searching out shows to go to
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and begging our parents to take us to and we
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are just starting to follow stuff online, you know, MySpace
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all that stuff, discovering things with the internet. We were
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really into hip hop. Jared and I made diss tracks
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against each other, like really crude, gnarly dis tracks, as
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you would do, like you know, as a middle schooler.
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Through that process, like we kind of realized that Jared
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was pretty good at like making beats and making like
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and composing stuff, and I was more into the lyrical
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vocal side, and so we started making music together where
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he makes the beats and most of the production stuff
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and I do the vocals, and Flamingo Dogs was born.
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You know, it's my longest music collaboration ever. We've kind
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of gone through a lot of different genres. We started
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more in like alternative hip hop kind of music, and
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now it's more electro pop, kind of indie bedroom pop,
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type of dancy kind of stuff, more electronic leaning. Yeah,
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we're still putting out music.
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Today, yes you are. But I mean it's all in
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a Jay's work, right.
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It's all in a Jay's work. That was our original name,
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Jay's Work, All in a Jay's work, which is you
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know it's kids are have a hard time coming up
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with band names. It's it's not easy. That's why we
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landed on, you know, the genius name of Flamingo Dogs.
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At least it's memorable.
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Arose by any other name. Right, So you've been making
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music since you're thirteen? What about Sound Days?
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What Sound Days? Thank you for asking? Yeah, so, I
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you know, I work still frequently in both Flamingo Dogs
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and Sound Days. Sound Days was born originally sort of
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as an extension of Flamingo Dogs. But it's become totally
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its own thing because we started collaborating with one of
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my other best friends in the world, Dayton Sinkaia. He's
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a talented actor. He's been on shows like Letter Kenny
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and all these different things. And we met an acting
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class in Vincent Chase's class, and then years later I
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found out that, you know, he had actually a musical
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background back in Toronto where he was from. He just hadn't,
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you know, dabbled in music in a long time. And
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we recorded a song that he was featured on for
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Flamingo Dogs, and then we were like, oh, this this
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really works. You know, he was like an additional vocalist,
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so this is really works, so doing kind of you know,
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alternative hip hop, and we ended up being like, you
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know what, like we should make more of this music.
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The sound was so different with his addition to it
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that it was like this is its own band now.
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And then Sound Days was born in twenty nineteen. That
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song he featured on with Flamingo Dogs became like the
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first Soundays song, and now we're releasing tons of music.
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We just released a month ago or a couple months ago,
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a song called good fight with a music video. It's
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on YouTube. And you know, all our music with Flamingo
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Dogs and Soundays is on all the streaming platforms. Actually, yeah,
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we just released another one called not a Machine. Soundays
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is a genre jumping group that really has its roots
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in hip hop, but it dabbles in rock, it dabbles
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in dance, it it dabbles in R and B these
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different things. So yeah, those are the two bands that
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I'm part of.
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Those are the two bands that you are a part of.
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But yet there is one more project, which is No Offense.
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My favorite of the three projects, you, my friend, are
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Love Comma Packs.
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Thank you, Steve.
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Yes, there is the song by Love Comma Packs. They're
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just not in any way related to the genres that
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you just spoke of with. Those are the two bands
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I was wondering if you would let me play this song.
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It's my favorite song from Love Comma Packs. It is
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called count count On Me?
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I do?
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Can I play count On Me?
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Yes?
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Please? Please?
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Will you do me a favor?
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Yep?
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Will you introduce it like your radio DJ?
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Yeah?
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Hey you guys, this is James Paxton. I'm live on
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Fascination Street with Steve Owens. And this is my song
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from my project Love Pas entitled count on Me.
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Drown from your You love me, but you're getting time.
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In Sana te Ben and and we both don't know
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why it is this.
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Way that I feel. I'm sorry.
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We need the best of friends, my brother, Please let
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me make.
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Ass getting the pressure to break them the more. Oh
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and don't over love f.
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Deceive both to see you both, sucee. I hope that
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you know you cannot always count on me.
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We're all getting We're almost done. And how he comment.
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Home into the arms, into the arms of you, show
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me love, show me some sick you don't forgive me for.
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Show me what, show me what I'm living for.
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Showing me.
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With dirty water. It begged me too, It begged me
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to be clean.
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Showing me.
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With dirty water, n swash.
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And red pink.
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Getting the crushing to break them. Oh and dover up.
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To see.
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To see you book sEH that you know you cannot always.
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Count on me?
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Thank you. I really appreciate that. That's yeah. Love Pax
1147
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is my most personal music. It's it's definitely an exploration
1148
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of a genre that I grew up loving. You know,
1149
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Dad had would play me like people like Nick Drake
1150
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:02.159
and Elliott Smith a lot Simon and Garfunkle, like you know,
1151
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.159
I love these more folky, kind of mellower emotional kinds
1152
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of music. And I had actually just started learning guitar,
1153
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like trying to pick it up and teach myself when
1154
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Dad passed, and I totally threw myself into getting better
1155
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at it in the years since he's passed. So it's
1156
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a tough one because I really wish that he could
1157
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hear these songs.
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You know he's listening, he can hear them.
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I believe that. I believe that, you know, I dedicated
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count on me to him. I wrote a lot of
1161
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these songs actually in the moments I kind of post
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his passing. In the first few years, I wrote a
1163
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lot of these songs on guitar. Every time I'd learn
1164
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a new chord and I could play a new chord
1165
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progression because I just play kind of rhythm guitar, and
1166
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I work with musicians who can add more fancy flourishes
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to the songs. But I just every time I learned
1168
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a new chord, it was like, Okay, I'm gonna write
1169
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a new song now. And I wrote a lot of
1170
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these songs and I'm still writing songs all the time
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as love Packs, and that's what I'm going to be
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really focusing on in the future. I just finished a
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new music video and I have another song called Snapshot
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that I wrote on guitar and it's definitely like an
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outlet that I needed because love Packs is literally my signature.
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It's how I sign off on emails. Often on letters,
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I always write love Comma Packs. Most people call me
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Packs or JPAX. Growing up is kind of my main nickname,
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and so this is me. This is that music. So
1180
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thank you so much, Steve. I appreciate the support on.
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That No, one hundred percent. That song is a banger.
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It's a mellow banger.
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It is a mellow banger. It's really awesome. I love
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it a lot.
1185
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Thank you.
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So.
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One of the things that I like to say on
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this show when I have someone such as yourself, is
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bro saving some for everybody else. You're creative, and so
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many like you're stealing all the creativity. You're hogging it
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up for yourself. You're in television and film, you write
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and perform music. And now let me get this straight.
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You upcycle pieces of furniture. What does that mean?
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I do upcycle furniture pieces. So my mom was an
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art and she would run like a volunteer art program
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called Art Trek in the schools that my sister and
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I like San Antonio. She'd come to San Antonio or
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elementary school because they had cut the budget for any
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kind of art programs in California public schools at the time,
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and so my mom started this thing called Art Trek
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where she would come with another volunteer teacher and she
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would teach you different methods to the students and run
1203
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like an art portion, like twice a week and like
1204
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a little class. And I loved it. And she's a
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huge inspiration to me artistically. And I grew up drawing
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in this sort of abstract style. I draw these kind
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of patterned creatures, like these big fish and these big
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serpent looking things, and she was always encouraging of it.
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I never showed it to anybody besides her, and I
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was always just immerse myself in it though I as
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a kid like just drawing until the late hours of
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the night. A couple of years ago, I was on
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my way to a restaurant. I saw this wooden chair
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out on the street and I was with my partner,
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and she's, why don't we pick that up. That looks
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like a pretty, you know, well put together chair. We
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could just give it a new paint job and you
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could you could draw on it. Because she had I
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had finally shown her some stuff. I was like, I
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don't know, I don't know. She's like, now, let's do it.
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Let's do It'll be fun. So we picked it up.
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I ended up painting it a solid coat. And because
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I didn't know about these great non toxic paint pens
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at the time, I drew on sharpie, which was a
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bad move. I inhaled a lot of toxic fumes and
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it started to fade. I had to go all over
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it with like paint pens again, and I did that,
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and then I sealed it with a polyocrylic top coat.
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And then I was like, wow, this turned out pretty cool,
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you know. And I started picking stuff up off the
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street and I'll sand it and I'll glue it together,
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I'll fix it up, paint it and then I'll illustrate
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all over it with my art style. And I've just
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started kind of selling a lot of these pieces. People go, oh,
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can you make me one? Can you make me when
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I've got like a back order of commissions right now,
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and it's been really cool. I'm somebody who always needs
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a creative outlet, especially the time between jobs film and
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TV jobs where it's all out of my control. I
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need stuff like art and music that I can just
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do on my own terms to keep me going between
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those jobs.
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And it's the kind of shit to keep us out
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of trouble.
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Exactly, exactly totally, and so so that's yeah. So now
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I upcycle you know, furniture that people try to get
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rid of by leaving it out on the street, and
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I always tag underneath I write where I found it.
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Oh cool street name. So is there a place where
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somebody can go to see these pieces that you're doing.
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I'm gonna make a TikTok page for it eventually, but
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I'm just it's so much work covering all these different pages.
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I started an Instagram account, it's at Paxston Illustrated. That's
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where you can find it. And I have a YouTube
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channel where I'm just posting clips of it and the
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process also under Packston Illustrated.
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So on the YouTube channel, you post clips of you
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actually doing it, of you in the process of doing it.
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Yeah, I have a couple like time laps videos of
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me where you see me kind of hunched over drawing meticulously.
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That's really cool, man, that's a great idea, thank you.
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Yeah, funnily enough. Actually, do you see that chair, that
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yellow chair out there? Uh huh, yeah, that's the first
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one I ever did that. I do reach.
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Oh that's the word sharpie.
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It's got my yeah, laptop on it right now.
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But yeah, that's that's really cool.
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I'm keeping that one of course.
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For sure. That's awesome. So how long does something like
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that take you?
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They take way too long. They take me like a
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like a month at least each piece, some of them longer.
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I made a huge one for my mom's sixtieth birthday,
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a huge coffee table. It was the biggest one I
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ever took on. And that one took me about two
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and a half months.
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Nice. Yeah, that's awesome. That's keeping you out of a
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lot of trouble.
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Yes it is.
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I know we didn't talk about a lot of stuff,
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but we did talk about a lot of stuff for
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01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:48.000
those listening again. Last Train to Fortune was in theaters
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01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:53.280
mid April. It's on bod in early May. Also, since
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01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:56.719
it was debuted at south By Southwest. I'm sure it's
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01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:58.880
going to be somewhere. It's going to find a home
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01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:03.599
somewhere after that anthology Grind and you got a feature
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that opened back in March, which is also now in
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beaw D called Dragon d r ag N Is that right?
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Yes, Dragon dr agn is an acronym. It's a sci
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fi horror thriller that Peter Webber directed. He directed Hannibal
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Rising and A Girl with a Pearl earring with Scarletjohnson.
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He's an English director and I went out and did
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01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:27.480
this wild movie in Serbia. It's about an AI, a
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new experimental AI military drone technology that this company called
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Mantis is testing on these unwitting participants in this experiment. Basically,
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it's like a corporate retreat. We all represent different global offices.
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01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:42.960
We're out there in Serbia and we were on some
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01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.719
we think it's like a team building bonding exercise. But
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there's this drone technologies that's like stalking us through the
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through the forest, and it starts becoming sentient faster than
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the company can control it, and it starts hunting us down.
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01:02:57.000 --> 01:02:59.719
It's got, you know, like an alien type of vibe
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01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.199
to it. It's a lot of fun. It's just a
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01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.320
it's just a real action thrill ride.
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01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:06.639
Sounds fucking terrifying.
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01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.079
It's pretty scary, actually, yeah, it's pretty scary.
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01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:13.360
Yeah, easy ship. Tell everybody where they can find you
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01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:15.760
on the social medias and if there is a website,
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hit that one too.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely, anybody can follow along with my projects on Instagram
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01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.159
at This is James Paxton with the art stuff at
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01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:30.039
Paxton Illustrated. The bands have social media pages at Sounda's Music,
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01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:31.280
at Flamingo Dogs.
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01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.840
What about love Packs does that have its own thing?
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01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.880
Yes, love Packs, Yeah, you know love Packs. I post
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primarily this the love Pack stuff on my main Instagram paget.
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01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:42.679
This is James Paxton. But I would love it if
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01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:46.559
people would subscribe to the music channel I have on YouTube,
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which is just at love Packs. That is a newer account.
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01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.599
I'm really That's why I'm putting all the music videos
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all that stuff. I'm really trying to get back going. Yeah,
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01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:58.440
I'm not not hard to find, always happy to be
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01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:01.639
sharing some kind of artistic thing and you know, in
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the hopes that people dig it.
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01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:05.760
You know, well, you have a lot to be Doug,
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my friend, you got a lot going on.
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Thanks Steve.
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01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:10.480
Like I said, I know we didn't get to some stuff,
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01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.159
but did we cover the big bits? Like was there
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01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:14.880
anything that we didn't talk about or I didn't ask
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01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:16.920
about that you wanted to talk about today? Did we
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01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:17.800
get to the good stuff?
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I think that this is a very thorough, amazing interview.
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01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:24.840
I can't think of anything specifically right now that we're missing. Yeah,
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01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:26.719
I just want people to go see those films and
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01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:29.480
check that out and check out the music. We covered
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01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:31.880
a lot. I mean you went in in depth. It's great.
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01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.199
Well, thank you, and don't forget we did have a
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01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.639
surprise pop on guests, which I am so glad that
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01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:37.159
that worked.
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01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:38.559
Yeah, we love you, Jeff.
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01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:44.199
If you're still listening, James Paxton, j packs, dude, thank
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01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:45.599
you so much for taking the time out of your
1345
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:50.960
busy day and your hectic acting, singing, writing, arting up
1346
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:52.920
cycling schedule to hang out and let's.
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01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:54.719
Get to know you a little bit better on Fascination Street.
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01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:54.880
Man.
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01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:55.440
I appreciate it.
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01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.599
Hey, thanks Steve. I love being on Fascination Street and
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01:04:58.639 --> 01:04:59.920
I hope you'll have me again some time.
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01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.159
You are always welcome by man. Dude, you're a badass.
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01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:04.320
This was so much fun.
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01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:06.719
I think you're a badass, Steve. I really genuinely I
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01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.320
appreciate that. Thank you so much for you know, doing
1356
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.840
that research. It always it's always appreciated when you're being interviewed,
1357
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.079
when like you know that the person who's interviewing you
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01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.159
really knows their stuff and is in cares, you know,
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01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:19.639
And I appreciate that.
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01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:20.800
You don't make me cry.
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01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.400
Don't get too emotion dude.
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01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:26.159
Seriously, thank you so much. I appreciate you. You have
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01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:27.440
a great guess of your week. And I will talk
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01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:27.800
to you later.
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01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.400
Thanks Steve, you two, I'll talk to you later, all right.
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Bye, buddy peace. Opening music is from the song fsp theme, written,
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01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:49.360
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01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:53.639
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01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:57.519
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