NYC Mayor Targets Fictional Anti-Semitism | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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Good morning. It's Wednesday, September 30th,
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2026. This is DeProgram with Ted Rall and
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Jamarl Thomas. Thank you for joining us. We're
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going to break down news and current events for
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the day. Wait, are we on? I don't see us. We're
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not? Let's see. I don't see us. I'm seeing us
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on YouTube. 32 people. Let's see. There we are.
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There we are. Oh, okay. Yeah. Sometimes it stays.
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Yeah. I have to take it out. And otherwise you
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get a black screen. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank
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you. All right. Good. Good game. Thank you. Yeah.
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And yeah, Rumble Studios is hinky sometimes.
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So anyway, thanks for joining us. We're here
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today because it's Wednesday from 9 to 11 a.m.,
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which means you get two full hours with us. The
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second hour will be dedicated to the Q&A. All
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right, let's get into what we're talking about
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today. Among other things, and among what you're
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talking about, caving into Zionists, Mayor Mamdani
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has released a report claiming that American
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Jews are victimized by a rise in anti-Semitism.
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I did a deep dive. There was no such thing. There's
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no data. It's completely made up. The Cornell
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rape case, we'll be talking about that, the alleged
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gang rape case and the complications in that.
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And I have some, not personal, but I have some
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insight in that a similar case took place when
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I was in college at Columbia University. This
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is a funny story about Trump. He tried to loot
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hundreds of millions of dollars of Venezuelan
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gold. But basically, leave it to Donald Trump
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to end up screwing up to the point where the
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gold can't be used. He literally has the most
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worthless gold in the world. We'll talk about
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that. The U.S. Supreme Court is allowing Trump
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to resume sending, deporting immigrants to countries
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that they have no association or relation to
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whatsoever. But that's temporary until they rule
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permanently. ICE is hiring another 5,000 mooks.
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And the Trump administration is going to add
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a citizenship question, seems innocuous enough,
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on the Form 1040, which is the form that Americans
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fill out their tax returns on. A lot to get into.
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And that's not even getting into the weird Emirati
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plane and a bunch of other stuff. So good morning,
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Jamarl. Thanks. Always good to see you. Always
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good to see you, too. What's the Emirati plane
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thing? So Emirates Airlines has a discount carrier
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called flydubai. And apparently, there was a
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flight en route from the UAE to Israel, of all
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places. Apparently, there was a kerfuffle between
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the pilot and co-pilot. They got into it, and
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they were mixing it up with fisticuffs in the
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cockpit. Fell 17,000 feet, terrorizing the passengers
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aboard. Fortunately, it didn't crash. They were
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forced to divert to Saudi Arabia. The Saudis
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were, of course, displeased. And so
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the question now is what the hell were these
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two arguing about? And I keep
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thinking about the case of that plane, that
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German pilot who basically flew a
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plane into the Alps just because he wasn't feeling
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happy about his life. Say, hey, dude, kill yourself.
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But really, do you have to take the
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rest of us with you? Yeah, it's always such a
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trash move. It just is, right? It's
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sorry. It is. I'm sorry that everybody who's
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on this plane is going to die with me. It's
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why? Why do they have to die with me? You could
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have eaten your gun. He could jump off a bridge.
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Nothing wrong with it. It's a dramatic death.
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No, it's not. It's very dramatic and really not
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cool. And totally, if there's
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an afterlife, people are going to be
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giving him shit for that. So, yeah, these two,
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they're going to try to figure it out.
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I have to admit that my first thought was,
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maybe they were arguing about Israel because
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they were on their way to Israel. They're two
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Arab pilots. Maybe they were, we shouldn't
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be flying to Israel or fuck Israel if they got
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into it. And they were having a little micro
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fight about Zionism versus anti-Semitism. And
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one thing led to another. They're punching each
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other in the cockpit. By the way, this would
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be an argument for how a lot of planes, a lot
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of airlines, they used to have a third and fourth
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person routinely in the cockpit, right? There
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was a navigator and there was an assistant, assistant
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pilot, a co-pilot, right? There are probably
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people watching and listening who
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know more about this. But there used to be,
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now it's not uncommon for there to
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just be two people in the cockpit at any given
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time. It's not a bad thing to have a third and
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a fourth just because. And obviously
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they just want to cut costs. But
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I would think in a situation like this, it would
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have been nice to have someone, hey,
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you two assholes, cut it out. People are professionals.
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One would hope. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's also that.
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There's the Malaysian flight too, right? It
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seems to me there were all sorts
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of dark conspiracies, it was diverted to
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Kazakhstan or whatever, but look, the
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plane did go into the Indian Ocean. We know that.
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And parts of it washed ashore in the middle.
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I was at Île de la Réunion, right, the French. How
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do you know it wasn't sucked into a black hole
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like Don Lemon hypothesized? That could
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have happened. Well, if so, the black hole didn't
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take the tail or part of the wing. Maybe it was
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taking lessons from Trump or he was just incompetent.
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Oh, you're talking about Malaysian flight, what
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is it, 1-0 something? Yeah. Because
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there's conspiracy theories about that. Lots
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of them, yeah. But look, the plane was... Plane
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and stuff like that. But wreckage was washed
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ashore in the Réunion and other places, right?
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So we know it went into the Indian Ocean. We
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just don't know why. It could have been
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anything, right? It could have been one of those
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things. Remember the golfer who gas-filled up
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his plane and then he basically passed out and
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just ran out of fuel and that was the end of
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it? That can happen on a commercial jet. There's
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also a possibility that the guy committed suicide,
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right? Same sort of thing. Yeah. It's, if
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you want to do it, do it by yourself. Don't take
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other people with you. Oh, by the way, Marine
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Le Pen. I was looking at, I was covering, I had
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a European guest today that covered European
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politics. And we were going into, well, we didn't
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get into Marine Le Pen. I figured I'd get into
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that with you. She, her party, National Rally,
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apparently has won some kind of honors or electoral
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advancement. But it seems that they're going
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after Jordan Bardella on some kind of anti-Semitic
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comments, quote unquote, that he supposedly made
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at some point. It seems like this is the angle
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to which they're trying to attack the party.
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It's interesting, right? Look,
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she looks like a shoo-in, which puts a big fat
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target on her back. Yes, it does. In a big way.
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By the way, following up that story about the
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Spanish. To strike the Spanish sit-ins in Madrid.
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That seems to have been resolved in a way that
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only a European country could get things done
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in a way that Americans can't. First of all,
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the company that evicted her decided to let her
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back in. They gave her a new lease, which is
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actually less than she was paying originally
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for the next eight years. She's 87 years old,
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so hopefully she'll live another eight years.
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But anyway, that should cover her for a while.
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So she'll be paying about $460. Everybody's happy.
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And the Spanish government is going to jam through
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a giant package to try to provide financial
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relief to distressed renters and other people
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who are suffering from inflation in
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Spain. So they protested and the protests made
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gains. Yeah. Yeah. And also take note, lefties, this
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was not a protest that was held every four months
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weather allowing on Saturdays. This was a
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protest that greatly inconvenienced the
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powers that be, right? They took over a public
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square in the country, in the nation's
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capital. They were there several days in a row.
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They went into the week, into the work week, and
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that's when things, that's when the Spanish
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parliament got serious and took care of it.
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I think that would happen here if
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you had similar
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resolve on the part. BLM was every day
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and it made a difference until it didn't, right?
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But that's the thing too. You always have
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to hold the elite's feet
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to the fire in that. It doesn't
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you don't win and then go away and then it stays
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won. Victories have to be protected, fought
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for. It's a constant struggle because the oppressors,
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they work 24/7, 7 days a week, 365 days a year,
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and you better too if you want to take them on.
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I don't know what Black BLM got though. What did
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they get? Well, temporarily, right? They
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got body cameras. They were supposed
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to defund the police in cities like Minneapolis.
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They were on the right track. And then
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they stopped holding the elite's feet to the
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fire. And in fairness to BLM, the lockdown came
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to an end and people had to go back to work in
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offices and stuff. And that was the end of that.
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They didn't get anything in the long run, but
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there were going to be concessions. Yeah. If
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that's true, then we have no excuse for anything.
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There is no excuse for anything. We don't do
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shit. Look, every gain in this
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country, right: civil rights,
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feminism, gay rights, rights for the
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disabled, everything, abolitionism,
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it all, women's suffrage, it all came
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as the result of sustained, aggressive
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political agitation. And it involved, in some
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cases, violence and nonviolence. The
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suffragettes were violent. People forget
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that. It's at a certain point,
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husbands were worried that their wives were going
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to poison them or stab them to death while
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they were sleeping. It was
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just that's how
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it works. And for the last 50 years, we've forgotten
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how to do that. Yeah. Why do you think we forgot
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how to do that? I rack my brain. I don't know.
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I've racked my brain about that over and over.
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Spain didn't forget. France didn't forget. None
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of those countries forget. So it's not a technological
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difference. It's not
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they're all watching TV or they're
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all, they have TV. They have
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the same distractions we do, so I don't
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get it. The closest. I don't know.
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I'll say one thing. What they don't do
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in those tactically, one thing that they do not
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do in European countries is have this peace
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police kind of mentality where, for
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people who don't know, if you go to a lefty protest
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in the U.S., they will have the peace police,
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which is a group of protesters who will prevent
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any more aggressive, Black Bloc type
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people from mixing it up with the police or throwing
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stuff at them. And they basically, they're trying
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to keep things nonviolent, even to the point
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of doing the cop's job for them by ejecting the
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more aggressive factions of their own movement.
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Yeah, that's kind of the point. You've got to
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have the whole thing, right? There's
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nothing wrong with nonviolence. I have this debate
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all the time with my friend David Swanson. But
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nonviolence is a crucial part of political change.
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But there's got to be either violence or the
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credible threat of violence to close the deal.
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Otherwise, the elites don't give anything up.
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The Martin Luther King, Malcolm X thing. You
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need both. Both were necessary. It's
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hey, you want to carry the stick Malcolm X is
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talking about, armed rebellion and revolution.
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Martin Luther King is talking about peace. Which
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one do you want? And they're like, yeah, let's take
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the peacenik. Yeah, yeah, we'll take that. We'll
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take that one. Yeah, we'll take that one. We don't
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want that one, right? We like that one. It's that
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one scares us. That's part of the issue, right?
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It's you're having these protests and it's
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everybody be quiet, everybody be calm, everybody
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be blah blah blah. Okay, nobody cares. Yeah, nobody
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cares. Nobody cares about your King's protests.
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Nobody does. It's not even an inconvenience,
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right? No, I agree with you on this.
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I put a clip in the thing of Ro Khanna. I don't
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know if you saw this clip with Ro Khanna having
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a conversation and they asked Ro Khanna if Iran
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has a right to self-defense. And Ro Khanna effectively
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says yes, and then effectively says no. And then
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even the host is like, I'm not trying to condone
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violence. And it's what do you mean you're
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not trying to condone violence? They're literally
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being militarily attacked. Whether people are
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being killed, violence is already happening.
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It's justified violence. And yet they still can't
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bring themselves to say it's justified violence.
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And also they can't bring themselves to shut
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up about Israel, about Iran not being
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allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. It's
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you can think that you can just think,
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I don't want nuclear proliferation or I don't
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think Iran can be trusted. I don't think those
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things. But you're allowed to think
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those things. But if you are playing the
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role of a progressive Democrat or a real liberal,
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you should just leave that talking point
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to the right-wingers and just let them have
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it and just focus on the injustice of the war
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and the violence that it's causing and the inconvenience
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that it's causing here in the U.S. to consumers.
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They can't do that. And in fact, Ro Khanna can't
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even make the claim that I put the clip in. I
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don't know if you want to play the clip and we
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can get to it later if you want in the Q&A or
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something like that. But we can play it. Ro Khanna's
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answer. And he keeps getting himself in this
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situation. To his credit, Ro Khanna would go in
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interviews, to his credit and to his credit. He
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would talk up the Palestinian issue. More so
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than others. In fact, he even went to the West
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Bank. He was the one that the settlers looked
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like they were going to injure at one point,
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but basically kept him from going the way he
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pleased. And yet he still gets stuck in these
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political thickets where what he's saying makes
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no sense. That's the clip. We can play it. Yeah,
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all right. Let it roll. Let's move to a simpler
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topic, Iran. So on Iran, I know that Iran was
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attacked by the U.S. and Israel twice. And I just
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want to ask you, do you think Iran has the right
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to defend itself? Well, any nation. Of course,
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under the UN Charter, every nation has a right
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to self-defense, but I do not believe that Iran
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has acted in compliance with international law.
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Now, I was opposed to the Iran war. I'm
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opposed to the war that we're waging, but I don't
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think Iran should be in any way attacking American
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military installations. What? Saudis or... I'm
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not going to... What the fuck? First of all,
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what's with the uh, uh, uh? It's the easiest
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question in the fucking world to answer. Do I
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like coffee in the morning? Yeah, I love it.
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Does Iran have a right to defend itself? Fuck
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yeah. It's fire hot. Yes. It's easy.
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All countries have the right to defend themselves.
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Especially if they're attacked. Well,
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that's what defense means, right? Not
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like the Israel thing, where if we
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our right to defend ourselves means that we get
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to start wars with all our neighbors all the
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time and kill the locals. That's not
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self-defense. But self-defense, yeah. And then,
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of course, oh, that means they don't have
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the right to attack U.S. military bases. The
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U.S. military bases, which are being used as
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launching pads against Iran where missiles
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are being fired from those bases at Iran and
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where those are supply depots for U.S.
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weapons being used against Iran. They have
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every right under international law to strike
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those bases. Every right. Yes. That response is
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insane. Or do you just not know it? What is
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it? He knows it and it's well they have a
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right to respond. Okay. But not against our military
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bases. Okay, so who should they respond to?
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Are you saying they should go after civilians?
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What are you saying? They should send a
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firmly worded letter? Yeah, it's so dumb. They
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should post on TikTok? What should they do? More
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Lego videos? For our Congress to come and stop
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the president from murdering our population.
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That's what they should do. He's out of his fucking
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mind. What, words are violence? He's out of his
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mind. He's an idiot. Words of violence. What
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you should do is send a letter. Say, we respectfully
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ask that you please stop attacking us. Pretty
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please with sugar on top. And if you don't, we're
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going to be required to reach out to the United
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Nations and ask them to condemn you, in which
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case you'll just simply veto it. Yeah. It's nonsense.
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This is the whole violence thing, right? They
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obviously had it right. And not just right. Well,
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they actually have a duty to their own people.
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They have a duty to kill as many U.S. service
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members and destroy as many bases and any other
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ships as possible. You kill your enemy, period.
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And they have a right to do it, considering we're
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the ones that attacked them, not the other way
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around. And Ro Khanna, for whatever particular
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reason, can say, yes, well, under international
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law, they have a right to defend themselves.
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But apparently they don't have the right to attack
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military bases that are doing the attacks. Let's
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keep rolling this bullshit. Let's do it. Because
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by the way, they're acting exactly what we're
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saying. It's interesting because if we're
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attacking if we're attacking
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their military installation, please for one second
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if we're attacking them and attacking their military
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installations and as you know there was, we also
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attacked civilian infrastructure and civilian.
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We attacked the monop school where 168
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young children and teachers were killed. We
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we've attacked a sports complex where young people
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were killed as well. So it's hard to reconcile
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the idea that they should not respond by attacking
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military bases because that's where the attacks
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are coming from. So I'm not condoning violence
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in any way, shape, or form. So whoever is watching
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this, that's not what this is about. But how
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do you justify saying that they have no right
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to attack U.S. military bases? Again, I'm not
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asking you to condone that. I'm just saying there's
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got to be a sense of justice here. And it seems
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like if we're going to attack them, them responding
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in self-defense makes sense from a world order
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perspective. I fundamentally believe that we
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shouldn't be in that war. And Thomas Massie and
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I led the effort to oppose the war. And I believe
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that the school shooting needs to be investigated.
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And if there are people who took that action
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with negligence, they need to be held accountable
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and prosecuted. My focus is ending the war. But
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the Iranian regime is a regime that has committed
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genuine human rights abuses with the IRGC and
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engaged in genuine acts in aiding terrorism.
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So I'm not going to apologize. I don't think the
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answer to that is to engage in regime change
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war, but I also don't think that we should
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be in any way condoning the Iranian regime
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which in my view is illegitimate in terms of
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the consent of its own people from a moral perspective
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and has killed dissidents and committed human
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rights violations nor should we be condoning
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them lashing out and attacking other nations.
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I just would not criticize our
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own government for starting the war. You're dumb.
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He's stupid and he's a weasel. He's not even
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good at being a weasel. This is a Sonali response.
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Yeah. It's not even a good Sonali response. No,
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Sonali would have done a better job. Yeah, she
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would have done a better job explaining this.
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He's trying to basically say, well, Iran
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is illegitimate. When the Ayatollah died and
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you had more people come to that funeral than
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any funeral in the history of funerals, that
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doesn't seem like an illegitimate government
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to me. Meaning it doesn't seem illegitimate,
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especially now with the overwhelming majority
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of the population backs its government against
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this criminal war that the United States initiated.
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This is fucking outrageous. We are out there
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murdering fishermen in Venezuela and we're still
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doing it, by the way. And he's like, well, they've
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committed terrorism. It's that's exactly
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what I'm saying. It's sort of
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look. I do DMZ with Scott
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Stantis. And before we got to be friends, we
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were enemies. And one of the reasons I was pissed
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off at him was he was the president of the Cartoonist
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Association. And I did a controversial cartoon.
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He was invited on Fox News to basically talk
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about cartooning. And so they went after him
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and said, would you have ever drawn that cartoon
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that Ted Rall drew? He should not have taken
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the bait. He should have been like, Ted Rall
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has the right to draw any fucking cartoon he
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wants. We have the First Amendment, free speech,
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shut the fuck up. Yeah, but that cartoon's outrageous.
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I don't give a shit what he drew. That's all
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he should have said, right? But he said, well,
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I wouldn't have drawn that cartoon. To his eternal
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credit, approached me and he was like, oh my
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God, I knew I fucked up the second I said it.
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I was really tired. I wasn't sharp.
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That can happen. And he was like,
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I apologize. I should have fucking
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I didn't do the thing. The whole point is a full-throated,
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if you're anti-war, then you're,
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if you're anti the Iran war, then be anti the
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Iran war. Don't be anti the Iran war, but also
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the Iranian government sucks and I wish they
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were overthrown. You're allowed to think
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that. You're really allowed to think that
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there's lots of people in Iran who don't like
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their government but that's not really the point
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here, is it? You can have a separate discussion
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about that at another time but this is the big
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topic here, right? And it's missing the point.
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And that's what I mean. And when you're
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giving, you don't see the pro-war people
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ever give quarter to the other side in that way.
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You're never going to see Republicans on Fox
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News. You're never going to see Sean Hannity
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say, well, I'm totally for the war
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and I think it's great that we're doing it, but
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really we should have laid off that school
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and we've been kind of sloppy in our targeting.
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No, they don't give any quarter at all, right?
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It's only the so-called fake lefties in this
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country that get to play progressives
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on TV who ever do that, right? The right-wingers,
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the Trumpies, the pre-Trump Republicans,
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none of them ever do that and it just drives
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me crazy. Yeah, it's aggravating to me. For
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one the answer makes no sense and he's caught
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in a contradiction immediately. Yeah. Do they have
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a right to stuff? Yes, but then, but whoa. What's
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his butt stuff? Well, I guess there could
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be a but like if they have nuclear weapons,
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I hope they don't use them. That could be a but.
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But even so, he shouldn't say that right now.
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It's not the point. Yeah. It's but I don't
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like their government. Well, they don't like
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yours either, right? Yeah, and our government
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sucks and everything that he accused the Iranian
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government of doing. And there's lots of legit
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criticisms to be made of the Iranian government.
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But we're worse. Okay. Yeah. And all the human
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rights abuses we do at a much bigger scale. Well,
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did y'all see yesterday at Trump's press conference
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at the Elon where a reporter asked him, Mr. President,
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why is it that North Korea can have a nuke,
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I saw, Iran can't? He's like, well, because I like
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the North Koreans. I don't like the Iranians. But
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no. No, because they have one and you can't take
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it away from them. That's why. That's all. By the
00:26:13.789 --> 00:26:15.930
way that question in and of itself can only be
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asked in the empire. You can never ask that question
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anywhere else because it would never make sense
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anywhere else. What does the U.S. have to do
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with North Korea having any, meaning a sovereign
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state has a nuke. It is hey, why is it
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okay for this sovereign state to have a nuke
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for the other one? Well, for one, they're a sovereign
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state. I don't have anything to do with it. I
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don't have any power over it. And part of the
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reason I don't have power over it is because
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what Robby pointed out, they have nukes. But
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it's an empire question. It's a question that
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the media and the empire would ask because nobody
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else in the world would make it would make sense.
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Hey, why should they be able to do so? Why should
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Ted Rall be able to have a girlfriend? Well,
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what the fuck do I have to do with Ted Rall's
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:55.480
girlfriend? Yeah, it's nothing to you. Yeah,
00:26:55.619 --> 00:26:57.099
it's nothing to you. It's none of your business.
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It's a sovereign state. They do what they want.
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So how am I, how are you asking me, why should
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a sovereign state be able to do something that
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a sovereign state has the power to do? And again,
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I keep pointing out, if Iran had a nuke, this
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war wouldn't be taking place. We have a comment
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from Fortech. I missed the start of today's show.
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Did they mention the letter to the American people
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by the IRGC? No, but I don't even know what that
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is. Do you guys know? Basically, it's
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I don't remember the thing. I saw the letter and
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I think I even copied it. But yeah, basically,
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if I remember correctly. This war is not about,
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:39.339
it's kind of what Russia does. What Russia is
00:27:39.339 --> 00:27:41.240
like, look, Europeans, we're not trying to have
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a war with you. Your world leaders are idiots.
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They're driving you to the brink of destruction,
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stuff like that. If I remember correctly, maybe
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I'm thinking about it. Off. Okay, so Blake has
00:27:57.210 --> 00:28:02.869
just kicked in $5 for the Ted's rack of big old
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titties. Let's go fund. So we now get down to,
00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:15.089
let's see, $4,968. Thank you for the $5. Keep
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going. I was kind of wondering if those guys
00:28:17.009 --> 00:28:20.609
had forgotten about it. No, the titty fund's
00:28:20.609 --> 00:28:24.250
still on. Justice says mainstream white women's
00:28:24.250 --> 00:28:27.750
suffrage leaders often used racist, nativist,
00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:30.470
and elitist rhetoric, marginalizing Black women
00:28:30.470 --> 00:28:32.410
and people of color to advance white women's
00:28:32.410 --> 00:28:36.509
voting rights. That's true, and that legacy continues
00:28:36.509 --> 00:28:38.730
with a lot of the rhetoric of white feminism
00:28:38.730 --> 00:28:41.869
these days, but that's probably for another day,
00:28:41.910 --> 00:28:43.869
for another time, because we could do a six-hour
00:28:43.869 --> 00:28:48.170
show with all the news today. Jackson, military
00:28:48.170 --> 00:28:50.569
bases are being attacked. It's because of the
00:28:50.569 --> 00:28:52.990
U.S., you agree, Robby? I'm sure. Of course.
00:28:56.269 --> 00:28:59.509
Swing voters seems like a humanity. Kill and to die.
00:28:59.509 --> 00:29:05.150
By the way. Guys, and we haven't
00:29:05.150 --> 00:29:07.730
even gotten into any of our official topics today.
00:29:08.150 --> 00:29:12.049
Today is, it's so funny, not with a
00:29:12.049 --> 00:29:15.849
bang, but a whimper. The U.S. officially withdrew
00:29:15.849 --> 00:29:20.029
from Iraq. The war in Iraq finished yesterday.
00:29:20.390 --> 00:29:23.849
That's my main story today. So I got the cliff
00:29:23.849 --> 00:29:26.349
notes of the letter. So it's a 25-page letter.
00:29:26.430 --> 00:29:28.769
I'm going to download the whole thing. So basically
00:29:28.769 --> 00:29:30.349
this is the rundown because I'm not going to
00:29:30.349 --> 00:29:32.329
read 25 pages. I don't want to put that to anybody.
00:29:33.829 --> 00:29:36.809
We don't hate Americans. Iran declares itself
00:29:36.809 --> 00:29:38.710
the victor in the current war, which is true.
00:29:39.690 --> 00:29:42.750
Hormuz, Iran says that because of geography,
00:29:42.950 --> 00:29:44.950
they control it. The United States tried to take
00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:47.569
it away from them. They failed. And to make that
00:29:47.569 --> 00:29:50.549
point clear, Iran actually this morning, I saw
00:29:50.549 --> 00:29:53.890
this, attacked three tankers that are being escorted
00:29:53.890 --> 00:29:56.130
by the U.S. Navy with drones, all three of them
00:29:56.130 --> 00:29:59.799
have been put out of action. And basically, the
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.440
Iranians are calling for the American people
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.220
to stand up and take their government back. So
00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:06.779
that you claim to be a republic, a government
00:30:06.779 --> 00:30:10.200
of the people, that people reject this war. So
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:11.720
it's incumbent on the American people to stand
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.599
up and take the government back and to restore
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:17.859
their agency, which I agree with. I like it.
00:30:18.450 --> 00:30:20.890
I just sort of did a cartoon to that effect.
00:30:21.690 --> 00:30:24.710
All right. Well, so. All right. So we should.
00:30:24.869 --> 00:30:26.529
All right. We've got stuff to talk about. Should
00:30:26.529 --> 00:30:30.359
we talk about Mayor Mamdani? This kind of drives
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.980
me absolutely insane. Wait, real quick. The fly
00:30:33.980 --> 00:30:35.880
plane, there's more information on it. So it
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:37.619
says, after much confusion, it turns out that
00:30:37.619 --> 00:30:39.980
a Ukrainian and a Russian pilots were on board
00:30:39.980 --> 00:30:43.799
the flydubai plane. Both took control of the
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:47.519
plane and landed it after a second pilot attacked
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.259
the captain. It says both of the pilots who were
00:30:51.259 --> 00:30:53.180
flying as regular passengers and a civilian.
00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:56.839
Clothes. After the incident, they replaced the
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.619
crew in the cockpit and landed the plane. Russian-Ukrainians
00:30:59.619 --> 00:31:02.589
working together. Yeah, that's kind
00:31:02.589 --> 00:31:04.410
of, I was just going to say that. That's kind
00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:08.200
of awesome. That's wild. Yeah. That's
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.119
just wild. I couldn't imagine being on a plane
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.099
that dropped 17,000 feet. Talk about
00:31:13.099 --> 00:31:15.759
your life passed before your eyes. No doubt.
00:31:15.980 --> 00:31:23.319
No doubt. Let me put up this cartoon. Let's see.
00:31:24.549 --> 00:31:31.849
Yeah, I think I can do it this way. Okay. Okay.
00:31:32.029 --> 00:31:34.710
So this is a cartoon that I'm putting out next
00:31:34.710 --> 00:31:38.049
week, right? But it shows 1945. It shows
00:31:38.069 --> 00:31:40.730
the Nuremberg trial. And an American prosecutor
00:31:40.730 --> 00:31:44.089
says, the German people bear collective guilt.
00:31:44.349 --> 00:31:46.950
They should have fought the Nazis and overthrown
00:31:46.950 --> 00:31:50.309
Hitler. Then, this year,
00:31:50.309 --> 00:31:53.670
a guy on the sofa in his house, protest
00:31:53.670 --> 00:32:03.019
march in that drizzle? Right. Oh, right, right.
00:32:03.019 --> 00:32:06.099
It is like that. It is ridiculous.
00:32:06.099 --> 00:32:09.400
It's the point that I make, the apathy. But by
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.500
the way I do think we are paying for the apathy.
00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:14.240
We're $40 trillion in debt. We're paying
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.519
for the apathy whether we do it directly or not.
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.660
True. And we're paying at the pump too although
00:32:18.660 --> 00:32:20.559
it still drives me crazy that we care about our
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.480
gas prices more than we care about the people
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:28.599
we're murdering. Yeah. Okay, so Zohran? Yes. All
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.779
right. I guess in this case, you can mess with
00:32:30.779 --> 00:32:35.880
the Zohran. So caving in, Mayor Mamdani, obviously
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.599
taking a lot of pressure from the Zionist lobby,
00:32:38.779 --> 00:32:44.119
issued a report in which, of course, nothing
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.279
was going to go far enough for the Zionists.
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.680
But basically, the report says that American
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.819
Jews have reported a marked rise in anti-Semitism
00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:58.420
in the last decade. It says that basically the
00:32:58.420 --> 00:33:02.940
city of New York wants to do more funding and
00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:05.579
they want to sort of form a little department
00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:09.539
to combat anti-Semitism. This will be like the
00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:12.599
Maytag repairman, the ultimate no-show job.
00:33:12.700 --> 00:33:14.900
I want a job on this commission because they
00:33:14.900 --> 00:33:17.880
literally won't have any work to do. So it's
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:19.430
going to be awesome. They're going to be paid
00:33:19.430 --> 00:33:21.509
not to do anything. I looked this up and I would
00:33:21.509 --> 00:33:24.950
ask anybody to Google this, use your favorite
00:33:24.950 --> 00:33:30.309
AI, whatever. Ask any search engine, what are
00:33:30.309 --> 00:33:33.630
the statistics of anti-Semitic or anti-Jewish
00:33:33.630 --> 00:33:37.609
attacks, whether they're attacks on property
00:33:37.609 --> 00:33:42.710
or they're attacks on people that are separated
00:33:42.710 --> 00:33:44.769
from anything having to do with the genocide
00:33:44.769 --> 00:33:49.170
in Gaza, criticism of Israel, or Zionism. In
00:33:49.170 --> 00:33:51.650
other words, attacking Jewish people for being
00:33:51.650 --> 00:33:54.410
Jewish. And the answer to that question is that
00:33:54.410 --> 00:33:58.069
there is literally no count whatsoever. No organization
00:33:58.069 --> 00:34:04.029
tracks these things at all. And the Anti-Defamation
00:34:04.029 --> 00:34:09.469
League, basically, they count all criticism of
00:34:09.469 --> 00:34:13.690
Israel as being an anti-Semitic attack. And
00:34:13.690 --> 00:34:17.110
so they've changed the numbers, right? So they're
00:34:17.110 --> 00:34:19.219
they changed the calculus. It didn't used
00:34:19.219 --> 00:34:21.619
to be like that. So they were able to say,
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.219
oh my God, there's been a massive increase. Well,
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.440
sure. If I start including
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.039
every time a Jewish person gets a flat tire while
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.639
driving a car as an anti-Semitic attack, yeah,
00:34:31.699 --> 00:34:34.099
you're going to also see a spike in anti-Semitic
00:34:34.099 --> 00:34:37.000
attacks. But the point is, there is literally
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.679
zero, not only is there zero data to support
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.170
this, right? But on top of that, it sort of doesn't
00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:47.269
pass the smell test because it's not
00:34:47.269 --> 00:34:49.610
we read the paper every day.
00:34:49.630 --> 00:34:51.289
It's not like every day, every now
00:34:51.289 --> 00:34:53.389
and then there's oh my God, this person
00:34:53.389 --> 00:34:56.909
was attacked for being Jewish. I read the
00:34:56.909 --> 00:35:00.389
Columbia University report where during the student
00:35:00.389 --> 00:35:03.190
protests, during the encampments, all
00:35:03.190 --> 00:35:05.150
these Jewish students claim to have been attacked.
00:35:05.210 --> 00:35:08.570
Right. And there's all these I feel unsafe on
00:35:08.570 --> 00:35:12.010
campus. And literally, I was so frustrated because
00:35:12.010 --> 00:35:14.829
I thought there must have been actual anti-Semitic
00:35:14.829 --> 00:35:17.090
attacks. There just must have been because the
00:35:17.090 --> 00:35:18.989
atmosphere was so overheated. There must have
00:35:18.989 --> 00:35:21.389
been people who were intemperate assholes who
00:35:21.389 --> 00:35:23.789
were pro-Palestinian who said shit that was
00:35:23.789 --> 00:35:27.449
wrong, right? Okay, but if that happened,
00:35:27.650 --> 00:35:31.409
it's nowhere in the report. There isn't a single
00:35:31.409 --> 00:35:34.349
incident that is cited of that kind of thing
00:35:34.349 --> 00:35:37.710
happening. So I'm sure it's happened, but the
00:35:37.710 --> 00:35:41.780
point is... It's literally statistically
00:35:41.780 --> 00:35:43.920
non-existent. It's a rounding error. It's not
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.800
something, and it frustrates me to no end that
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.539
Mamdani, in an effort to get the Zionist lobby
00:35:50.539 --> 00:35:53.699
off his ass, first of all, this which will not
00:35:53.699 --> 00:35:55.940
work, because they're already criticizing him
00:35:55.940 --> 00:35:57.539
for this. They said it doesn't go far enough.
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.900
They say, well, all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism.
00:36:00.900 --> 00:36:05.920
So it's ineffectual. And on top of
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.139
that it's just like that clip you showed of Ro Khanna
00:36:09.139 --> 00:36:11.659
where it's you're giving the others you're
00:36:11.659 --> 00:36:14.440
legitimating, legitimizing the other side
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.920
which by the way I have no problem with when
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.000
the other side is right or has a point but
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.239
that's not the case here. They don't have a point.
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:26.139
They're making up out of whole cloth. Well, saying
00:36:26.139 --> 00:36:28.079
something that you don't like isn't an attack.
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.559
An attack is if I walk up and I hit you in the
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.059
face. That's an attack. If I come up and I say
00:36:34.059 --> 00:36:35.739
that you're supporting a genocidal government,
00:36:35.980 --> 00:36:38.739
that's not an attack. That's me expressing an
00:36:38.739 --> 00:36:41.199
opinion. Now, you can make the argument that
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.300
words are violence, but if you make that argument,
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.619
then you may as well give her a free speech because
00:36:45.619 --> 00:36:47.780
the entire point of free speech is to be able
00:36:47.780 --> 00:36:50.460
to say things that is unpopular or that makes
00:36:50.460 --> 00:36:52.940
people uncomfortable. Popular speech does not
00:36:52.940 --> 00:36:56.260
need to be protected by definition. Yeah. No,
00:36:56.340 --> 00:37:00.369
agreed. That's the whole point of this. It's
00:37:00.369 --> 00:37:03.650
dumb. Let's be very honest. Israel, on some level,
00:37:03.670 --> 00:37:05.269
they're doing this in order to create this level
00:37:05.269 --> 00:37:09.630
of anger and hatred. You committed a genocide,
00:37:09.789 --> 00:37:11.969
dude. Right? You still are. And you're calling
00:37:11.969 --> 00:37:15.030
yourself a Jewish state as it commits a genocide.
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.420
And so it's okay, so what do people, how
00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:21.380
are people to take that? Are they to take it
00:37:21.380 --> 00:37:23.960
as the Jews are committing a genocide? Is that
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.619
how they're to take it? Now, personally, I take
00:37:25.619 --> 00:37:28.440
it as Zionists are creating a genocide. The distinction
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.079
between Zionism and Judaism. I think those things
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.800
are different. And this attempt at saying this
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.920
is a Jewish state, this is a Jewish state that
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.380
commits a genocide, on some level is going to,
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.739
by definition, create anger and rage out of people
00:37:41.739 --> 00:37:46.559
at, quote, Jews, unquote, and their hand in what
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.079
is taking place. Even though, again, it's a political
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.940
movement, not necessarily a religious thing that's
00:37:51.940 --> 00:37:55.539
doing it. So, no, I agree with you.
00:37:55.579 --> 00:37:59.309
He's basically throwing them a bone when you
00:37:59.309 --> 00:38:01.389
shouldn't be throwing anything considering what's
00:38:01.389 --> 00:38:03.309
taking place. No, I agree with you. And it's
00:38:03.309 --> 00:38:05.670
never, and the thing is, it's also bad politics.
00:38:05.750 --> 00:38:08.070
He's usually a pretty smart politician,
00:38:08.250 --> 00:38:12.429
but this is a tactical mistake.
00:38:12.849 --> 00:38:16.090
Well, he needs to cede ground in some way. Basically,
00:38:16.150 --> 00:38:18.429
if I cede ground on this, I have more grace for
00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:20.550
other stuff. They can't hit me on this particular
00:38:20.550 --> 00:38:22.869
point. They can't say, especially being Muslim,
00:38:22.969 --> 00:38:26.969
right? It's me and my very attractive Muslim.
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.079
Actually, I don't know if his wife is Muslim.
00:38:29.179 --> 00:38:32.480
I think she's Syrian. But either way, the fact
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.440
that he's Muslim adds something on to it because
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:35.840
they try to make the argument that because by
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.880
virtue of him being a Muslim, he by definition
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.739
hates Israel or some insane nonsense like that.
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.360
At least that's where I think the logic goes.
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:44.239
It's kind of like if you support Palestinians,
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.559
by definition, you hate the state of Israel.
00:38:46.699 --> 00:38:50.280
And it's well, why do you think that?
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.320
Why are you making those two things linked together
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.360
like that? But they are linked. Same thing with
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.380
El-Sayed, right? Michigan. Muslim.
00:38:58.380 --> 00:39:00.340
Oh my God, he's saying stuff about Palestine.
00:39:01.139 --> 00:39:04.360
He must hate Israel because he's a Muslim. They
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.659
make those linkages. And so I guess he feels
00:39:07.659 --> 00:39:09.780
he needs to cede ground on some level. Like you
00:39:09.780 --> 00:39:12.019
said, it's going to be the Maytag repairman.
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:14.539
But the problem is the moment that you cede ground
00:39:14.539 --> 00:39:16.179
to that level of logic, you're stuck with the
00:39:16.179 --> 00:39:21.079
logic. Is that right? And again, I will point
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.440
out that the opposite side never does the same.
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.260
You're never going to get, is it Jonathan Greenblatt,
00:39:27.300 --> 00:39:30.460
I think, is the guy who runs the ADL. You're
00:39:30.460 --> 00:39:34.059
never going to see Jonathan say he's a fucking
00:39:34.059 --> 00:39:37.019
nut. And a lot of people quit the ADL, which
00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:39.139
used to be a far more respectable organization
00:39:39.139 --> 00:39:41.380
when it was, we used to call it B'nai B'rith,
00:39:41.380 --> 00:39:45.400
right? But a lot of people quit because
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.099
of him taking over and making it not about anti-Semitism,
00:39:49.099 --> 00:39:51.480
but making it about anti-Zionism.
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:57.010
And a lot of good Jews left. He, but
00:39:57.010 --> 00:40:00.210
Jonathan never says he never says,
00:40:00.230 --> 00:40:02.909
he never give any ground. He doesn't say, okay.
00:40:03.610 --> 00:40:05.829
Look, it's fair criticism to say there are certainly
00:40:05.829 --> 00:40:08.989
some people who criticize Israel who are Jewish,
00:40:09.190 --> 00:40:12.429
for example, and are not self-hating Jews. And
00:40:12.429 --> 00:40:15.130
he'll never give that, they'll never give that
00:40:15.130 --> 00:40:18.090
ground, right? Again, the giving of ground always
00:40:18.090 --> 00:40:21.409
goes one way in America, from left to right.
00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:25.590
It never goes from right to left, not ever. If
00:40:25.590 --> 00:40:28.429
anyone can point to one fucking example of that
00:40:28.429 --> 00:40:31.469
ever happening, I would be, I'll send you a free
00:40:31.469 --> 00:40:35.309
book today. Okay. It's totally not true and
00:40:35.309 --> 00:40:37.750
if you want any change you gotta, it's like the
00:40:37.750 --> 00:40:40.309
Matrix, you gotta fight Mr. Smith. You gotta be
00:40:40.309 --> 00:40:42.690
able to fight that fight. Yeah. It can't just
00:40:42.690 --> 00:40:45.250
be this thing of I'm ceding ground on this particular
00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:47.110
issue. No, you have to, some of those fights have
00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:51.320
to be fought. Yeah. And yeah, I agree with
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:52.920
you. You shouldn't have done, I don't think you
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.789
should have done it. It's oh, by the
00:40:55.789 --> 00:41:00.630
way, adding to this point. And he won the Jewish
00:41:00.630 --> 00:41:03.510
vote. He doesn't need to do this politically.
00:41:03.849 --> 00:41:07.210
He has Jewish New Yorkers on his side, and he
00:41:07.210 --> 00:41:12.090
has key Jewish politicians like Brad Lander on
00:41:12.090 --> 00:41:14.969
his side defending him. He doesn't need to suck
00:41:14.969 --> 00:41:19.190
up to these lunatics. Listen to this. 53-year
00:41:19.190 --> 00:41:21.269
senators voted to block a resolution that would
00:41:21.269 --> 00:41:23.349
have forced the State Department to report on
00:41:23.349 --> 00:41:25.730
the killing of American citizens by Israeli settlers
00:41:25.730 --> 00:41:28.650
and soldiers in the occupied West Bank. The privileged
00:41:28.650 --> 00:41:32.230
resolution, led by Chris Van Hollen, Tim Kaine,
00:41:32.309 --> 00:41:35.690
and Bernie Sanders, involves Section 502B of
00:41:35.690 --> 00:41:38.389
the Foreign Assistance Act. It would have required
00:41:38.389 --> 00:41:41.190
a report within 30 days, investigation into the
00:41:41.190 --> 00:41:43.230
killing of U.S. citizens by settlers or Israeli
00:41:43.230 --> 00:41:46.030
forces, human rights situation in the West Bank,
00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:48.409
specifically its detention of Palestinian children.
00:41:48.690 --> 00:41:50.869
If the administration failed to deliver the report,
00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:53.869
most U.S. security assistance to Israel would
00:41:53.869 --> 00:41:56.130
have been cut off, according to the sponsors.
00:41:56.369 --> 00:41:59.650
Guess who jumped in, the Democrats, to put a
00:41:59.650 --> 00:42:02.989
knife in that? I'll give you one guess. This
00:42:02.989 --> 00:42:08.789
was in the Senate? Yep. Schumer? No. I know who
00:42:08.789 --> 00:42:12.289
this is. John Fetterman. Fetterman. Of course.
00:42:12.730 --> 00:42:16.869
That motherfucker. And keep in mind, the killing
00:42:16.869 --> 00:42:20.190
of American citizens. Yeah, which could include
00:42:20.190 --> 00:42:25.300
Pennsylvanians. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But Pennsylvanians
00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:28.199
are Americans by definition. Yes, I'm just saying
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.480
your own constituents, right? Your own constituents,
00:42:30.860 --> 00:42:34.719
your own countrymen. Hey, how many Americans,
00:42:34.900 --> 00:42:37.260
the people who you are philosophically, ethically,
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.860
and legally supposed to be representing and defending,
00:42:40.179 --> 00:42:44.730
how many of them have been murdered by lunatics
00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:47.750
with beards? They had the wrong hyphenated name
00:42:47.750 --> 00:42:50.079
though. They're Palestinian Americans. They
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.239
weren't Israeli Americans, right? So we don't care
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.280
about them. And so it's a whole Animal Farm thing,
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.880
right? Some hyphenated Americans are more American
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:00.340
than others. I know that, but that's dumb.
00:43:00.340 --> 00:43:03.969
But that's so problematic because what that means
00:43:03.969 --> 00:43:06.889
is we're not united. We're not one thing, which
00:43:06.889 --> 00:43:08.630
is the entire point of this supposed to be a
00:43:08.630 --> 00:43:11.409
melting pot. Hey, you may be from Afghanistan. Besides
00:43:11.409 --> 00:43:13.769
which we're not even asking for anything to be
00:43:13.769 --> 00:43:16.110
done about it. We're just trying to collect data.
00:43:16.750 --> 00:43:19.550
We're collecting. We want numbers. We just want
00:43:19.550 --> 00:43:23.969
a report. Hey, did you happen to kill my daughter?
00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:26.130
That'd be nice. Could you let me know? That'd
00:43:26.130 --> 00:43:27.949
be great. So that way I know I don't have to
00:43:27.949 --> 00:43:29.949
send her a Christmas card this year. Listen,
00:43:30.090 --> 00:43:32.369
it's like you hit someone's dog, Ted. If
00:43:32.369 --> 00:43:36.449
someone ran over Clovis, if they came and knocked
00:43:36.449 --> 00:43:37.929
on your door and said, I'm sorry, is this your
00:43:37.929 --> 00:43:40.630
cat? I'm really sorry. He was out on the road.
00:43:40.889 --> 00:43:43.829
I tried to stop. I couldn't. It was an apology.
00:43:44.730 --> 00:43:47.260
Is there anything I can do? How can I make this
00:43:47.260 --> 00:43:51.139
right? We can't get that for a culture that we
00:43:51.139 --> 00:43:55.099
pay for. Or even no apology. No apology at all.
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.579
Even just hey, dude, I killed your cat.
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.079
Have a good day. See you. We're not even getting
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.400
that. Human beings. And those human beings being
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.079
Americans. This is supposed to be like
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.159
Rome, right? A Roman citizen can go anywhere.
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.000
Did you hear that the Israeli Supreme Court,
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.539
which until recently was like the only last
00:44:16.170 --> 00:44:18.590
institutional vestige of sanity in that country,
00:44:19.150 --> 00:44:24.630
they ordered the IDF to reinstall that Palestinian
00:44:24.630 --> 00:44:27.409
family who were under siege in the West Bank
00:44:27.409 --> 00:44:31.610
by Jewish terrorists, right? And so
00:44:31.610 --> 00:44:36.050
the IDF went in there to do that, and then they
00:44:36.050 --> 00:44:40.630
were repelled by the settlers. The settlers drove
00:44:40.630 --> 00:44:45.230
the IDF out. Now, I'm like, this is where I want
00:44:45.650 --> 00:44:48.949
these settlements to look like Gaza. I want the
00:44:48.949 --> 00:44:53.989
IDF to come in with F-16s and strafe it and
00:44:53.989 --> 00:44:57.269
bomb it and go then go in with people
00:44:57.269 --> 00:45:00.329
to blow up all the buildings that survive. That's
00:45:00.329 --> 00:45:02.690
if you're a democracy and you
00:45:02.690 --> 00:45:04.670
treat everyone the same that's what you should
00:45:04.670 --> 00:45:07.610
do. You literally claim to. Literally they
00:45:07.610 --> 00:45:11.190
went in there like, pretty kind, sir. Would you
00:45:11.190 --> 00:45:15.610
please step aside? Queensberry rules. Dictates
00:45:15.610 --> 00:45:19.590
said we must pass through here. Fuck off. All
00:45:19.590 --> 00:45:23.349
bad. Have a nice day. Have a nice sandwich. Goodbye.
00:45:24.150 --> 00:45:27.409
It's what? It's literally like they're
00:45:27.409 --> 00:45:30.710
not even pretending to try. Yeah, of
00:45:30.710 --> 00:45:31.769
course they're not trying, right? It's
00:45:31.849 --> 00:45:33.829
oh, we tried so hard. We couldn't do it. We couldn't
00:45:33.829 --> 00:45:36.309
stop them. They were too strong. We know
00:45:36.309 --> 00:45:38.369
what the IDF is capable of. They should
00:45:38.369 --> 00:45:41.849
have killed those settlers. We have seen them
00:45:41.849 --> 00:45:46.849
murder people with breathtaking precision. Yes.
00:45:47.710 --> 00:45:51.610
And take a certain amount of glee out of it as
00:45:51.610 --> 00:45:53.989
they did it. The idea that they can't deal with
00:45:53.989 --> 00:45:57.389
settlers. There was a documentary, I'll give
00:45:57.389 --> 00:46:00.210
credit to NPR for talking about it this morning,
00:46:00.329 --> 00:46:04.690
called Gaza. It's airing in Israel. Gaza, N-A-Z-A-F-O.
00:46:04.690 --> 00:46:07.659
Oh, Nazafo. And so basically they're
00:46:07.659 --> 00:46:11.480
and basically it's about how it's
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:16.280
IDF veterans talking about how
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:19.619
people were targeted in Gaza and basically they statistically
00:46:19.619 --> 00:46:22.179
they were literally told, we're willing
00:46:22.179 --> 00:46:25.119
to eliminate the entire population of Gaza. By
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.679
the way, new statistics, new estimates of the deaths
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:32.130
there is about 680,000 dead in Gaza, according
00:46:32.130 --> 00:46:36.829
to some NGOs who calculated. It's sort of
00:46:36.829 --> 00:46:38.989
just based on who was there before, who's there
00:46:38.989 --> 00:46:42.210
now. And just that makes more sense
00:46:42.210 --> 00:46:45.730
to me than the Gaza Health Ministry numbers,
00:46:45.929 --> 00:46:49.329
which those require recovering bodies. So most
00:46:49.329 --> 00:46:51.289
of the bodies are under the rubble. So that does
00:46:51.289 --> 00:46:53.829
make sense to me. And having done
00:46:53.829 --> 00:46:56.130
some more correspondence, I never thought,
00:46:56.130 --> 00:46:58.619
looking at that video, that
00:46:58.619 --> 00:47:00.980
it ever made sense that it was, quote unquote, only 70,000.
00:47:00.980 --> 00:47:04.900
But it never moved. It stayed at a
00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:06.260
particular point and it's okay, but they've
00:47:06.260 --> 00:47:07.719
been murdering people for months. How does this
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:09.619
number sing? And those numbers always seemed
00:47:09.619 --> 00:47:13.659
really lowball. But yeah. Anyway, the point
00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:16.920
is that movie, it's heinous.
00:47:16.940 --> 00:47:18.760
They literally were like, we're willing
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.559
to kill 20 people for every person we target
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.920
and we don't care. And they, like you said, to
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.489
your point, extraordinary precision. They literally
00:47:27.489 --> 00:47:29.989
zero in on the people's phones, the occupants
00:47:29.989 --> 00:47:33.369
of a building. They listen and watch them. They
00:47:33.369 --> 00:47:35.989
can as they're killing them and they make
00:47:35.989 --> 00:47:38.550
fun of them as they do that. And this is left,
00:47:38.550 --> 00:47:41.769
as you would imagine, a lot of Jewish
00:47:41.769 --> 00:47:44.610
Israeli soldiers traumatized because
00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:48.210
they're not all monsters. And so
00:47:48.210 --> 00:47:50.349
before the show we were talking a little
00:47:50.349 --> 00:47:53.210
bit about how this compared to the way German
00:47:53.210 --> 00:47:56.530
Nazi troops handled this. And I think,
00:47:56.550 --> 00:47:59.530
look, a lot of, for example, at the big
00:47:59.530 --> 00:48:02.349
massacres at Babi Yar and places like that, a
00:48:02.349 --> 00:48:04.110
lot of German troops, they couldn't really do
00:48:04.110 --> 00:48:06.510
it without drinking the entire time. They passed
00:48:06.510 --> 00:48:08.849
out, the German army passed out schnapps to the
00:48:08.849 --> 00:48:11.690
soldiers so that they would keep doing it because
00:48:11.690 --> 00:48:14.880
they were, it's not really human nature to do
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.900
this for most people, to just kill innocent people
00:48:17.900 --> 00:48:20.880
for fun. Some people are enjoying themselves.
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.480
Lord knows the leadership is enjoying
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.659
themselves. But I think in terms of the conscript,
00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:29.300
it's a mixed bag. Some are really into it. Some
00:48:29.300 --> 00:48:31.300
are really not into it. And then there's a bell
00:48:31.300 --> 00:48:34.760
curve in between. No, I accept that.
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.780
They're people, even if they act like monsters,
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.059
they're still people. Right. I think there's
00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:42.690
going to be a lot of people. Worst monsters. There's
00:48:42.690 --> 00:48:44.469
going to be a lot of suicidal ideation among
00:48:44.469 --> 00:48:47.409
for IDF vets, I think. Well, apparently they
00:48:47.409 --> 00:48:49.429
are. A lot of them have been eating their
00:48:49.429 --> 00:48:52.150
guns at some of the stuff they've been doing.
00:48:52.150 --> 00:48:56.860
Yeah. I don't know what to say. The
00:48:56.860 --> 00:48:58.900
reality of it is that they're doing monstrous
00:48:58.900 --> 00:49:01.380
things and the majority of the population agree
00:49:01.380 --> 00:49:02.820
with the monstrous things that they're doing.
00:49:02.820 --> 00:49:08.380
So yeah, I don't know. I
00:49:08.380 --> 00:49:11.989
suppose that would be. Two great comments. One is silly and
00:49:11.989 --> 00:49:15.090
one is silly without wanting to be silly. Okay,
00:49:15.150 --> 00:49:20.630
so one is from Eric. If I identify as a furry
00:49:20.630 --> 00:49:22.809
and do a crime, should I go to prison or the
00:49:22.809 --> 00:49:28.750
pound? The zoo. Okay. And Zach, Nazis were leftists.
00:49:28.750 --> 00:49:31.329
You do know that, right? They weren't
00:49:31.329 --> 00:49:33.789
leftists. Nazis were right-wingers. Yeah, they
00:49:33.789 --> 00:49:36.090
were hardcore right-wingers. Yeah. Hitler
00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:38.050
might have did this thing where they're
00:49:38.050 --> 00:49:40.860
will put out certain tropes. That he knows
00:49:40.860 --> 00:49:43.119
socialism is in the name but that doesn't make
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.199
you socialist. Yeah, it was a fascist government.
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.940
Yeah, fascism is on the far opposite extreme of
00:49:49.940 --> 00:49:53.980
communism. So but we can if we want to get
00:49:53.980 --> 00:49:57.059
into that we can. Okay, just a little bit of housekeeping.
00:49:57.059 --> 00:49:59.380
The second hour of the show as we go till 11
00:49:59.380 --> 00:50:01.300
o'clock we have an hour and nine minutes left
00:50:01.300 --> 00:50:04.719
in today's show. We'll be focused on your questions
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.599
but we'll continue to talk about the news and
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.800
okay so I think we've done enough about
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.900
Mamdani. I could do the whole show about Mamdani.
00:50:12.900 --> 00:50:15.679
Do you only put the clip of that Yahoo
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.079
on 60 Minutes saying how Israel can hack your
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:22.519
phones? Sure. Okay, just one second here, fellas.
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.119
The fact that he's so arrogant he just
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:27.000
comes out. I don't know if we can play that six
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.699
minute clip. We may, they may quit. Oh, right, right,
00:50:29.699 --> 00:50:32.679
right, right. Now you're right. You don't
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.280
play around. Yeah, they'll blow us up. Can't do
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.829
it. Yeah. I don't know that. If we're on
00:50:37.829 --> 00:50:39.769
Rumble, we could. I don't know if YouTube will
00:50:39.769 --> 00:50:43.090
do it with fair use. They should. They should
00:50:43.090 --> 00:50:45.170
let it go. Obviously, it's a political
00:50:45.170 --> 00:50:48.090
talk show doing news and commentary. What they'll
00:50:48.090 --> 00:50:49.510
do is they'll ding us and we'll have to fight
00:50:49.510 --> 00:50:52.170
it afterwards. Yeah, it's not worth it. Okay.
00:50:52.550 --> 00:50:55.329
All right. I'm saying it from experience. No,
00:50:55.349 --> 00:50:57.849
you're right. No, we dealt with this with Manila
00:50:57.849 --> 00:51:03.349
over and over and over. All right. Cornell, Venezuelan
00:51:03.349 --> 00:51:09.070
gold, deportations, or citizenship question
00:51:09.070 --> 00:51:12.230
on tax forms. Venezuelan gold. Let's go to that.
00:51:12.230 --> 00:51:14.420
All right. Do you want to tee it
00:51:14.420 --> 00:51:17.000
up? Well, I don't know the thing I remember. All
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.659
right. Trying to take Venezuelan gold out of four.
00:51:19.659 --> 00:51:21.500
They were trying to take Venezuelan gold out
00:51:21.500 --> 00:51:23.139
of one bank to another bank or something like
00:51:23.139 --> 00:51:25.480
that. Well, so actually so what happened is
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:31.150
that Commissar Marco Rubio has
00:51:31.150 --> 00:51:35.110
taken over the Venezuelan government as the viceroy
00:51:35.110 --> 00:51:38.429
of Venezuela. And as part of the looting of the
00:51:38.429 --> 00:51:41.329
country's natural resources, they took over the
00:51:41.329 --> 00:51:45.010
mining operations and they diverted all of the
00:51:45.010 --> 00:51:50.489
mined raw gold that then has to be refined. And
00:51:50.489 --> 00:51:55.630
the problem is that it can't be refined under
00:51:55.630 --> 00:51:58.570
international rules if it's sort of like blood
00:51:58.570 --> 00:52:00.949
diamonds if it's been sourced through criminal
00:52:00.949 --> 00:52:03.670
gangs or there was environmental destruction
00:52:03.670 --> 00:52:07.369
or corruption involved in the extraction of this
00:52:07.369 --> 00:52:11.210
resource. So the thing is, this is not to say
00:52:11.210 --> 00:52:13.550
that the Venezuelan mining industry was pure
00:52:13.550 --> 00:52:17.489
as the driven snow before the U.S. invasion and
00:52:17.489 --> 00:52:20.829
occupation, but or I shouldn't, it's not even
00:52:20.829 --> 00:52:23.550
an occupation, the overthrow of the Maduro
00:52:23.550 --> 00:52:27.070
government. But it certainly was a lot, certainly
00:52:27.070 --> 00:52:29.789
back under Hugo Chavez, it was a lot,
00:52:29.829 --> 00:52:32.449
it was a socialist government. Criminal gangs
00:52:32.449 --> 00:52:35.250
were not running the show and things got worse
00:52:35.250 --> 00:52:37.909
and worse. Anyway, under the doctrine
00:52:37.909 --> 00:52:40.929
of move fast and break things, Trump just rushed
00:52:40.929 --> 00:52:44.550
into this and just said, just take it. So Rubio
00:52:44.550 --> 00:52:48.869
did take it. And the thing is that it's all sitting
00:52:48.869 --> 00:52:52.510
in warehouses now in the United States worth
00:52:52.510 --> 00:52:54.929
hundreds of millions of dollars of gold bars.
00:52:55.610 --> 00:52:58.769
But under international law and international
00:52:58.769 --> 00:53:03.730
rules, nobody can take it or use it. So it's
00:53:03.730 --> 00:53:06.170
basically sitting there. I guess you
00:53:06.170 --> 00:53:08.849
could just melt it. There is no such thing as
00:53:08.849 --> 00:53:11.750
international law. But there's international
00:53:11.750 --> 00:53:15.230
business rules. And apparently a lot of the,
00:53:15.329 --> 00:53:18.409
nobody will buy this shit. Nobody will take it.
00:53:18.489 --> 00:53:22.090
So basically. It's kind of just typical Trumpian
00:53:22.090 --> 00:53:24.010
incompetence. Well, I'm surprised that we don't
00:53:24.010 --> 00:53:28.230
put in our votes. Apparently we can't.
00:53:28.510 --> 00:53:30.050
There's nothing stopping us from taking a gold
00:53:30.050 --> 00:53:32.909
bar. In Ukraine, they used to, what's
00:53:32.909 --> 00:53:34.650
the guy, the congressman that had gold bars in
00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:37.650
his refrigerator? We can take gold bars.
00:53:37.650 --> 00:53:39.809
What's stopping us from putting those in our
00:53:39.809 --> 00:53:45.000
banks? Well, according to basically the business
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.880
rules of the gold mining industry, which I was
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:51.679
not aware of up until now. You can't do that.
00:53:51.860 --> 00:53:55.400
So basically it would be like the, I
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.280
guess the thing is there would be sanctions against
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.719
the United States among other gold,
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:03.619
gold traders. There's obviously a huge international
00:54:03.619 --> 00:54:07.400
gold trading market. We'd be cut out. We would
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.280
not be allowed to trade gold with the rest of
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.500
the world. I want to see it. I don't believe
00:54:11.500 --> 00:54:14.519
it. I don't believe it for one moment. I don't
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:16.920
believe it. I just don't believe it. Donald,
00:54:17.099 --> 00:54:21.710
we have bullied the world. Oh no host of issues
00:54:21.710 --> 00:54:25.210
but the specific one is the one where we're stuck
00:54:25.210 --> 00:54:26.929
on from the standpoint of international law. I
00:54:26.929 --> 00:54:30.690
don't buy it. That gold is going to be laundered
00:54:30.690 --> 00:54:33.110
in some particular fashion and we will get our
00:54:33.110 --> 00:54:34.690
hands on that gold in some way. What they'll do
00:54:34.690 --> 00:54:37.449
is either a they're going to either they're
00:54:37.449 --> 00:54:41.090
going to melt it down, make it
00:54:41.090 --> 00:54:43.670
for electronics to conduct electricity or they're
00:54:43.670 --> 00:54:45.789
going to make it into jewelry. One or the other.
00:54:45.789 --> 00:54:48.250
That's what's cool about gold. It's
00:54:48.250 --> 00:54:50.360
so malleable. Well, what about selling it in the
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.340
country itself? Meaning you may not be able to
00:54:52.340 --> 00:54:53.920
put the stuff out the country, but certainly
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.800
you can sell it to, as Robby was pointing out,
00:54:55.860 --> 00:54:57.900
if manufacturers need it for something.
00:54:58.199 --> 00:54:59.760
Look, I'm just telling you what the New
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.320
York Times says. Look, what is true is
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:04.980
that the gold is just sitting there. That part
00:55:04.980 --> 00:55:10.019
is true. So they may figure out some
00:55:10.019 --> 00:55:13.000
way to just dump it on,
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:17.199
all the cheap jewelry stores in
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:19.639
on the Lower East Side might end up selling this. Who knows.
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:22.679
So there's, so they transported it from Venezuela
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:26.880
to the U.S. or from the UK to the U.S. because I
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:31.250
thought it was in the UK. Now it's in the
00:55:31.250 --> 00:55:33.590
it's in the U.S. Oh I guess this thing is it's unprocessed
00:55:33.590 --> 00:55:35.869
or thank you P.W. Walker for pointing that out
00:55:35.869 --> 00:55:39.789
and it can't be refined
00:55:39.789 --> 00:55:43.909
until yeah that's the issue but it's in the U.S. I think
00:55:43.909 --> 00:55:45.650
that's what the Times is reporting
00:55:45.650 --> 00:55:50.039
now. How did it get to the U.S.?
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:53.400
We basically diverted it from Venezuela. Probably the U.S.
00:55:53.420 --> 00:55:56.179
military transports. We stole it from Venezuela.
00:55:57.750 --> 00:56:01.469
That's just looting. Totally looting.
00:56:01.489 --> 00:56:03.130
It's just hilarious that we stole something that
00:56:03.130 --> 00:56:07.059
we can't use. We'll find a way to use it.
00:56:07.539 --> 00:56:11.159
It's just so... Gold also has industrial applications,
00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:13.460
right? Exactly. Yeah, we'll find somebody to
00:56:13.460 --> 00:56:15.320
use it. I guess it's so over the top, though.
00:56:15.380 --> 00:56:18.280
It's cartoonish. It's like somebody rolling
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:21.110
up a truck to the back of a bank and just taking
00:56:21.110 --> 00:56:23.230
the money out and just driving away. That's effectively
00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:25.550
what we did. That's exactly it. That's exactly
00:56:25.550 --> 00:56:27.909
it. All right. Got a comment. Thanks for the
00:56:27.909 --> 00:56:31.230
$5 from Andre. Netanyahu went to the UN to quote
00:56:31.230 --> 00:56:34.530
unquote expose Mamdani and his response, Mamdani's
00:56:34.530 --> 00:56:36.889
response was to arrest protesters of Israel.
00:56:37.630 --> 00:56:43.219
That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Mamdani did arrest the
00:56:43.219 --> 00:56:46.949
anti-Israel protesters. Disgusting. Instead
00:56:46.949 --> 00:56:49.190
of the guy who he should be arresting, the guy
00:56:49.190 --> 00:56:54.750
he promised to arrest under the ICC. But, yeah.
00:56:56.130 --> 00:57:01.309
We're not signatories. True. Yeah. We could do
00:57:01.309 --> 00:57:03.710
it, but we're not signatories. I know. Which
00:57:03.710 --> 00:57:05.789
is ironic. I still think he shouldn't. I think,
00:57:05.809 --> 00:57:07.869
even if he just did it and booked
00:57:07.869 --> 00:57:11.449
Netanyahu and just kept him in the Tombs or kept
00:57:11.449 --> 00:57:15.050
him in Rikers for a night, that'd
00:57:15.050 --> 00:57:21.639
be great. Keep seeing spicy. If that happened,
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:23.500
do you think that Netanyahu's bodyguards are
00:57:23.500 --> 00:57:27.219
trying to shoot the cops? They're in the U.S.
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.739
They can't. If they did that, they would be annihilated.
00:57:31.019 --> 00:57:33.920
They couldn't. They would be annihilated. Think
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.659
of how cops act. A cop could break into a house
00:57:37.659 --> 00:57:40.179
and you could shoot at the cop because they broke
00:57:40.179 --> 00:57:41.960
into your house and they would all open fire
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.429
and the courts will let them off. Keep in mind,
00:57:45.469 --> 00:57:49.349
what was that case where the cop, they broke
00:57:49.349 --> 00:57:51.969
into the house, it was a no-knock warrant, the
00:57:51.969 --> 00:57:54.070
person shot at him, and all the cops opened fire,
00:57:54.210 --> 00:57:56.389
and they ended up murdering somebody who was,
00:57:56.469 --> 00:57:57.690
I think, in the other apartment or something
00:57:57.690 --> 00:58:00.429
like that. They went after the guy who shot at
00:58:00.429 --> 00:58:03.050
the cop, who, again, the cops broke into the
00:58:03.050 --> 00:58:04.670
house, and the guy didn't know that they were
00:58:04.670 --> 00:58:06.909
cops. Right now, as we speak, and we're going
00:58:06.909 --> 00:58:08.710
to talk about ICE, but not about this topic,
00:58:08.909 --> 00:58:12.010
that guy in Texas that ICE shot, they just charged
00:58:12.010 --> 00:58:15.269
him with attacking the officer. Yep. That's what
00:58:15.269 --> 00:58:18.079
I mean. So then Yahoo's bodyguards that are
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:19.780
in the U.S., a country of 320 million
00:58:19.780 --> 00:58:22.659
people, let's say there's 20 of them.
00:58:22.659 --> 00:58:25.059
And the NYPD aren't slouches. They know how to use their
00:58:25.059 --> 00:58:27.519
sidearms. But here's the thing, though. It would
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:33.420
show who runs what. If he, if Mamdani had the
00:58:33.420 --> 00:58:35.980
balls to do it, if he sent his cops and said,
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:40.030
go arrest this guy. Yeah. If Netanyahu's bodyguards
00:58:40.030 --> 00:58:42.010
tried to obstruct. Send some good Arab American
00:58:42.010 --> 00:58:44.090
cops to take care of you. Then what would happen?
00:58:44.409 --> 00:58:49.050
Right. Who would NYPD take orders from? Netanyahu
00:58:49.050 --> 00:58:53.550
or Mamdani? That's the question. It'll be Mamdani.
00:58:53.929 --> 00:58:56.739
They would take orders from Mamdani. I would
00:58:56.739 --> 00:58:59.460
hope so. I don't think Mamdani would
00:58:59.460 --> 00:59:01.659
do it. Mamdani's dick would grow by about three
00:59:01.659 --> 00:59:02.659
quarters of an inch. Well, Mamdani doesn't have
00:59:02.659 --> 00:59:06.659
the balls to do it. His penis has been
00:59:06.659 --> 00:59:09.590
it's clearly shriveled inside of his body.
00:59:09.590 --> 00:59:15.130
I'd be turned on. That's a sexy guy. I'd
00:59:15.130 --> 00:59:17.630
be like, oh my God. Holy shit. Look at the balls
00:59:17.630 --> 00:59:21.750
on that one. And I would not hold it against
00:59:21.750 --> 00:59:24.030
him at all. We had to let him go the next
00:59:24.030 --> 00:59:25.989
day. All right, all right. But can you
00:59:26.010 --> 00:59:28.869
maybe throw him down a flight of stairs? Maybe
00:59:28.869 --> 00:59:30.670
throw him down a flight of stairs before you
00:59:30.670 --> 00:59:33.150
do? Well, if someone had an Epstein,
00:59:33.349 --> 00:59:35.130
anything could happen in those prisons. Yeah,
00:59:35.150 --> 00:59:37.659
yeah, yeah. Well, that's true. Yeah, send them
00:59:37.659 --> 00:59:42.880
to the MDC. That would not be good. Oh,
00:59:42.900 --> 00:59:45.480
we lost this paperwork. All right. Venezuelan
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.420
gold, what have we done? We still have to do
00:59:47.420 --> 00:59:54.469
Cornell and ICE and taxes. You said you had a
00:59:54.469 --> 00:59:57.349
story about Cornell. Yeah, so you know about
00:59:57.349 --> 01:00:02.000
this rape allegation, right? So basically this
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.880
is a, so what happened here as far as we know
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:09.599
is back two years ago there was an alleged gang
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:14.400
rape at a fraternity at Cornell University. That's
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:18.019
in upstate New York. This was in October 2024,
01:00:18.019 --> 01:00:21.559
almost exactly two years ago. So according to
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:27.699
her, she according to the victim she. Basically,
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.239
it was a wild night of crazy drinking and ketamine
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:36.619
and God knows what else. There was consensual
01:00:36.619 --> 01:00:40.460
sex, according to her, with two dudes. And then
01:00:40.460 --> 01:00:43.239
things got wild and even got out of control.
01:00:43.900 --> 01:00:48.260
And then according to a Snapchat that there's
01:00:48.260 --> 01:00:51.400
a screenshot of basically it was
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:53.519
I don't want to repeat exactly what was said. Basically
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:56.480
it was hey, the door is open.
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:58.860
Come up upstairs. If you want it,
01:00:58.860 --> 01:01:02.300
this girl wants it. And then so a total
01:01:02.300 --> 01:01:05.360
of seven guys are accused of having had sex with
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:09.519
her. She claims that the last five or
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.659
at least some of the last five were non-consensual.
01:01:14.099 --> 01:01:18.929
She, at the time, campus, nothing. Now, the thing
01:01:18.929 --> 01:01:21.690
is that for three weeks, there were no reports
01:01:21.690 --> 01:01:26.170
filed of any kind. One of the two guys that she
01:01:26.170 --> 01:01:30.289
liked messaged her allegedly and said,
01:01:30.289 --> 01:01:31.889
I'm really sorry, things got a little out of
01:01:31.889 --> 01:01:34.469
control. And she's kind of like in her response,
01:01:34.630 --> 01:01:37.309
kind of like, no worries, no harm, no foul.
01:01:37.309 --> 01:01:39.610
Let's get together again soon, next time
01:01:39.610 --> 01:01:43.329
with less ketamine and with fewer guys. And so
01:01:43.329 --> 01:01:46.949
she was obviously kind of into the first two,
01:01:47.030 --> 01:01:51.110
but not into the last five. Three weeks later,
01:01:51.309 --> 01:01:55.829
she went to the campus police, not the Ithaca
01:01:55.829 --> 01:02:00.409
police, and said, and wanted to file a rape charge.
01:02:00.690 --> 01:02:05.150
They looked into it. There was no corroborating
01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:12.170
witnesses. Her testimony was unclear. They decided
01:02:12.170 --> 01:02:16.070
not to file charges. She also went with some
01:02:16.070 --> 01:02:20.289
local campus advocates and so on. And there,
01:02:20.329 --> 01:02:25.789
basically, the situation sat, except the college
01:02:25.789 --> 01:02:29.690
did hold a Title IX hearing. Right. Those are
01:02:29.690 --> 01:02:34.730
controversial. And the guys, two of the guys,
01:02:34.769 --> 01:02:40.590
I guess, were expelled. The others were suspended
01:02:40.590 --> 01:02:43.570
for short times and they had to write essays,
01:02:43.730 --> 01:02:46.250
which that part is hilarious. I will not rape
01:02:46.250 --> 01:02:48.670
unconscious women. I will not rape unconscious
01:02:48.670 --> 01:02:53.360
women. And anyway, but that was according to
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.480
the university. That was only part of it. Anyway,
01:02:56.579 --> 01:03:00.030
so. That was basically where things stood. And
01:03:00.030 --> 01:03:03.329
then a few days ago, she filed a civil lawsuit
01:03:03.329 --> 01:03:09.369
against the alleged rapists and the university
01:03:09.369 --> 01:03:13.110
and the fraternity, which has now been closed.
01:03:13.190 --> 01:03:15.730
The university did shut it down after this incident
01:03:15.730 --> 01:03:20.750
back then. So now this is all over social media.
01:03:21.469 --> 01:03:23.210
It's kind of, look, there's been
01:03:23.210 --> 01:03:26.030
cases like this before. There was the Duke lacrosse
01:03:26.030 --> 01:03:31.369
case there when I was at Columbia shortly.
01:03:31.369 --> 01:03:33.849
I guess this was a year after I left the first
01:03:33.849 --> 01:03:37.429
time. So between 84 and between
01:03:37.429 --> 01:03:42.150
84 and 90, when I was not on campus, there was
01:03:42.150 --> 01:03:47.030
a fraternity where a lady said she was attending
01:03:47.030 --> 01:03:51.010
a drunken party, claimed to have been gang raped.
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.719
And she filed charges. The university shut down
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.500
the fraternity, expelled all of the members who
01:03:59.500 --> 01:04:02.719
were present at the time, and blacklisted them
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:05.800
from all other Ivy League and other prestigious
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:11.059
colleges. Years later, she
01:04:11.059 --> 01:04:13.320
went to her therapist and her therapist encouraged her to
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.599
go to the university and she recanted her story
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:19.079
and said this never happened. I was just
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:21.219
upset because I liked this guy and he didn't
01:04:21.219 --> 01:04:23.320
want to date me and I wanted to get even with
01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:27.800
him. And so the university never took
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.800
it back. And they never reinstated the
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:35.480
frat. They never de-blacklisted the
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:37.460
students. They never readmitted them. But there were some
01:04:37.460 --> 01:04:40.630
civil lawsuits. There was the Barnard
01:04:40.630 --> 01:04:43.030
Mattress Girl, if you remember her, that was a notorious
01:04:43.030 --> 01:04:48.349
case where this girl at Barnard College, which
01:04:48.349 --> 01:04:50.489
is the women's college across the street from
01:04:50.489 --> 01:04:55.269
Columbia, claimed that she had consensual sex,
01:04:55.449 --> 01:04:59.809
but non-consensual anal sex with a friend of
01:04:59.809 --> 01:05:04.050
hers, with a FWB. She reported it. There was
01:05:04.050 --> 01:05:07.289
a Title IX case. He wasn't really allowed to,
01:05:07.289 --> 01:05:10.860
under Title IX you can't have a lawyer
01:05:10.860 --> 01:05:13.280
represent you or defend you. You can't confront
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.539
your accusers. It's not a real trial. And the
01:05:16.539 --> 01:05:18.900
jurors aren't legal experts. In some cases they
01:05:18.900 --> 01:05:22.739
even involve fellow students. And anyway she
01:05:22.739 --> 01:05:26.880
he was expelled. Basically her story started
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.900
to fall apart. He filed a civil lawsuit. The university
01:05:29.900 --> 01:05:32.400
ended up having to pay him millions of dollars
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.199
and reinstating him as a student. And
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:39.340
but the point is lacrosse case too. The Duke lacrosse
01:05:39.340 --> 01:05:43.719
case was all. Yeah. So it's a lot. So
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:47.380
it's the problem is rape happens a lot on
01:05:47.380 --> 01:05:52.579
campus but so do false allegations and so it's
01:05:52.579 --> 01:05:55.639
kind of what are the cops to do and now
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:58.000
you have Governor Kathy Hochul obviously with
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.400
presidential aspirations. She's urging something
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.219
to be done about this because of all the social
01:06:04.219 --> 01:06:07.699
media heat. And so now there's a new investigation.
01:06:08.460 --> 01:06:10.780
There's, they're looking into it again.
01:06:11.059 --> 01:06:14.300
But basically all the usual fault lines in a
01:06:14.300 --> 01:06:17.159
case like this are cropping up between
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:18.960
people who are oh, believe all
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.659
women and versus men are rapey
01:06:21.659 --> 01:06:25.480
scum. It's just a fucking hot
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:34.789
mess. It is a mess. Okay. I guess for one, yeah,
01:06:34.869 --> 01:06:37.269
this is a bit of a mess. She was on ketamine,
01:06:37.349 --> 01:06:40.409
so she was kind of unconscious. For what? I don't
01:06:40.409 --> 01:06:41.889
know why anybody would want to have sex with
01:06:41.889 --> 01:06:45.210
an unconscious woman. Well, that's right.
01:06:45.210 --> 01:06:52.699
By definition, there's no consent there, right?
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:55.420
She gave consent before she became unconscious
01:06:55.420 --> 01:06:57.280
with the ketamine. She gave consent to
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.760
the first two. Yeah, by her own count. Right.
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:02.500
So it's well, you can't really
01:07:02.500 --> 01:07:04.769
accuse the first two of rape. If you're
01:07:04.769 --> 01:07:07.230
invited, note to all watchers
01:07:07.230 --> 01:07:10.030
of the program who are dudes, if you were invited
01:07:10.030 --> 01:07:13.010
into a room and told she wants it, but she
01:07:13.010 --> 01:07:14.909
doesn't have anything to say because she's out,
01:07:15.070 --> 01:07:18.849
leave the room. She doesn't really want it. Right.
01:07:18.969 --> 01:07:23.309
Right. Or maybe she did, but she can't now. Right.
01:07:23.389 --> 01:07:24.869
Yeah. She can't consent when she's unconscious.
01:07:25.590 --> 01:07:28.949
So that's dicey in and of itself. Right.
01:07:28.949 --> 01:07:33.679
Yeah, that's a hard one. Because the
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.429
reality of it is she was unconscious.
01:07:36.449 --> 01:07:37.989
I suppose the other two could tell on the other
01:07:37.989 --> 01:07:41.010
five, but the other two are going to get in trouble
01:07:41.010 --> 01:07:42.530
for inviting the other people in in the first
01:07:42.530 --> 01:07:44.690
place because they didn't have any right to invite
01:07:44.690 --> 01:07:47.409
people to have sex. Totally. Yeah. I don't know.
01:07:47.489 --> 01:07:50.110
This is a mess. Do we know as a flat
01:07:50.110 --> 01:07:52.829
fact that the rape took place? We know
01:07:52.829 --> 01:07:55.329
as a flat fact the first two had sex and we know.
01:07:55.869 --> 01:07:57.710
Do we know it's a flat fact the other five joined
01:07:57.710 --> 01:08:01.110
them? We don't. We don't.
01:08:01.110 --> 01:08:03.309
It's largely widely assumed. By the way these
01:08:03.309 --> 01:08:05.710
guys have been doxxed by feminists online
01:08:05.710 --> 01:08:08.329
and stuff. So their names are even The Guardian's
01:08:08.329 --> 01:08:12.150
been reporting their names. But
01:08:12.150 --> 01:08:13.610
by the way I don't have a problem with that in
01:08:13.610 --> 01:08:15.670
a way because they're accused of rape.
01:08:15.670 --> 01:08:17.989
There's so they're college kids. So
01:08:17.989 --> 01:08:20.310
what? They're adults. They can be.
01:08:20.310 --> 01:08:22.409
Their names can appear. If you were accused of
01:08:22.409 --> 01:08:24.930
robbing a liquor store you'd be, your
01:08:24.930 --> 01:08:27.829
name would be in the paper. For some reason
01:08:27.829 --> 01:08:30.170
it feels different. It does feel different but
01:08:30.170 --> 01:08:32.939
I don't think it really is different. But
01:08:32.939 --> 01:08:36.319
so we don't know. So yes. So here's the
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:40.760
thing, right? She didn't go to the popo for six,
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:43.739
for well the local the rent-a-cops, right? She
01:08:43.739 --> 01:08:46.439
didn't go for the campus pigs for three weeks.
01:08:46.939 --> 01:08:50.659
So obviously, no rape kit is possible.
01:08:50.659 --> 01:08:52.600
The evidence has gone. So there's no physical
01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:55.340
evidence by that point. Also, the Snapchat thing
01:08:55.340 --> 01:08:57.300
of saying, hey, let's meet up later. Even that's
01:08:57.300 --> 01:08:59.720
a little weird to me. Is that weird?
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:01.920
That cuts both ways, though, right? Because
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.300
it's sort of like that kind of thing has come
01:09:04.300 --> 01:09:07.359
up in numerous cases like this. And psychologists
01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:10.359
call this normalizing behavior. If
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:13.520
you're traumatized, you're like. We're good here,
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:15.720
right? And now I'm not going to compare myself
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:19.020
with a rape victim, but I learned about normalizing
01:09:19.020 --> 01:09:21.979
behavior in my LA Times case, because in my LA
01:09:21.979 --> 01:09:24.439
Times case, it all surrounded this incident where
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:28.220
I was roughed up by this LAPD cop. And there's
01:09:28.220 --> 01:09:30.819
a recording of it. And at one point, I'm like,
01:09:30.899 --> 01:09:33.640
oh, after he takes off my cuffs and he's
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:35.880
ready to let me go, I'm like, oh, is there any
01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:39.619
place good to eat around here? And the LA Times
01:09:39.619 --> 01:09:41.760
made a lot of this and said, oh, if you
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.619
had such a rough experience with the cop, why
01:09:44.619 --> 01:09:47.819
do you ask that? Now, the thing is, I have corroborating
01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:51.079
evidence that I was meeting my friends for dinner.
01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:53.859
I was running late because of this incident.
01:09:54.060 --> 01:09:58.060
I didn't need a place to eat, right? So why would
01:09:58.060 --> 01:10:01.979
I ask this, right? Only just basically to sort
01:10:01.979 --> 01:10:04.060
of, we're good here. And that's apparently
01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:08.520
a really normal thing to do. U.S.,
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:12.319
Israeli troops
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.539
in the West Bank and you're like, good morning,
01:10:15.539 --> 01:10:17.920
but in reality you're terrified with this person.
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:22.159
Also pointing out that hey let's not do this
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:25.180
with the other guys also kind of indicates that
01:10:25.180 --> 01:10:29.180
the other guys were there, right? Right. And I think
01:10:29.180 --> 01:10:31.520
also what the fact that the guy was like,
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:34.359
oh things got out of control. I'm sorry about
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:36.979
how the direction that went. That also indicates
01:10:36.979 --> 01:10:40.739
that. So I'm 99 sure the other guys were
01:10:40.739 --> 01:10:42.699
there. At least somebody didn't give a about her.
01:10:42.699 --> 01:10:45.720
To be like hey come on in guys. By the
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:48.659
way I remember when I was in college and white
01:10:48.689 --> 01:10:53.470
woman had to think for Black guys. I had to
01:10:53.470 --> 01:10:56.930
think for Black guys that were let's say on the
01:10:56.930 --> 01:11:00.130
dicier side of things. I guess the danger of
01:11:00.130 --> 01:11:03.489
it all and. I remember when they were
01:11:03.489 --> 01:11:06.989
going to run a train and they were inviting people
01:11:06.989 --> 01:11:11.810
in. Right. Yeah. It happens. Yeah, it happens.
01:11:11.930 --> 01:11:14.390
And she was down for it. So it wasn't like some
01:11:14.390 --> 01:11:17.789
people are. Yeah, she was. She had a certain
01:11:17.789 --> 01:11:21.539
quirk about her that that was her thing. And
01:11:21.539 --> 01:11:25.239
I've dated girls who that was a huge fantasy
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.229
for them. Yeah. To shoot a grin of her
01:11:28.229 --> 01:11:30.390
roommates because the people effectively stole
01:11:30.390 --> 01:11:31.970
a bunch of shit out of their rooms. Like I said,
01:11:32.010 --> 01:11:34.529
they were in the dumps. Oh, shit. Yeah. But,
01:11:34.569 --> 01:11:36.850
yeah, I remember this other one. It was
01:11:36.850 --> 01:11:38.069
hey, would you like to come down? It was
01:11:38.069 --> 01:11:42.420
oh, no. Thanks a lot. Yeah. I had a roommate
01:11:42.420 --> 01:11:45.520
that he, he told me that in college,
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:49.520
he and the entire tennis team ran a
01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:52.520
train on some girl. And I was like, was she into
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.699
it? And he's like, I don't really know. And I
01:11:54.699 --> 01:11:57.640
was like, you didn't really know? What you're
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:01.020
you have to know. But I don't think you do.
01:12:01.020 --> 01:12:03.640
But you need to know. If you don't know then the
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:07.979
answer is no. Yeah. You should know. But I would
01:12:07.979 --> 01:12:11.539
go further. If she's really wasted and
01:12:11.539 --> 01:12:14.399
you can tell then even if the answer is yes the
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.260
answer is no. I have a question for you. I have
01:12:17.260 --> 01:12:19.119
a question for you Ted and this goes back to
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:21.520
the argument that we had with that lady who killed
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:23.640
her, killed her kids so she's out of her mind.
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:29.819
Well, these people are on drugs. So if it's okay
01:12:29.819 --> 01:12:31.979
for a woman to strangle her kids because she
01:12:31.979 --> 01:12:34.840
was out of her mind, then how is this wrong?
01:12:36.029 --> 01:12:38.329
Square this peg for me. You mean the fact that
01:12:38.329 --> 01:12:41.529
the alleged, you mean from the alleged rapists?
01:12:41.770 --> 01:12:45.310
Look, that's a criminal defense. If they were
01:12:45.310 --> 01:12:47.210
ever, obviously they're not going to be charged
01:12:47.210 --> 01:12:51.510
criminally. It's been two years. But if they
01:12:51.510 --> 01:12:54.550
were charged criminally and they said, they were
01:12:54.550 --> 01:12:57.470
able to say, listen, I was fucking fucked up
01:12:57.470 --> 01:13:01.170
beyond belief. I was so drunk. I was so wasted
01:13:01.170 --> 01:13:04.489
on ketamine. The special. I
01:13:04.489 --> 01:13:07.090
don't think many juries would look kindly upon
01:13:07.090 --> 01:13:09.689
it, but it is a defense. It's a line of defense
01:13:09.689 --> 01:13:11.750
that's been tried many times in American court.
01:13:11.890 --> 01:13:13.310
I don't think it's a good defense. It's not an
01:13:13.310 --> 01:13:16.810
effective defense. Well, the problem is they
01:13:16.810 --> 01:13:18.210
knew. Guys, you talk about this. I got to pee.
01:13:19.130 --> 01:13:23.180
Well, I'm an alcoholic. And I drink and
01:13:23.180 --> 01:13:25.079
get behind the wheel of a car. I know I can crash
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:27.159
the car as a result of the alcohol. They're not
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:29.619
going to give them a break for that.
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.699
In the woman's case, I think the argument is
01:13:31.699 --> 01:13:33.560
where she was out of her mind because of postpartum
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:35.840
depression was nothing that she did to be out
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.119
of her mind, which I'm not sure if I believe
01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:39.960
or not, but put that aside for the moment. That's
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:41.739
the argument in her case. She didn't have a choice.
01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:44.899
She was out of her mind because of the pregnancy.
01:13:45.140 --> 01:13:47.020
She wasn't taking anything. She was just out
01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:48.680
of her mind because of the condition. In their
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:50.439
case, they were taking shit. They were
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:52.579
getting hammered. It sounded like they were having
01:13:52.579 --> 01:13:53.880
a good party up until the point of the rape.
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:57.220
Listen, I agree. If the rape even happened. I
01:13:57.220 --> 01:14:00.079
think the best thing you could do, my daughter's
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:04.010
in college now, hopefully she never puts herself
01:14:04.010 --> 01:14:07.439
in this kind of situation to begin with. Don't
01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:09.520
get drunk or get stoned and go to a room with
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:10.899
two guys because you know it's going to happen.
01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:15.659
Don't put yourself in a situation where you're
01:14:15.659 --> 01:14:17.359
out of control, for one thing. But if it does
01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:22.000
happen, if one person gets a pass, she says,
01:14:22.060 --> 01:14:23.960
well, I was out of my mind because of a medical
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:28.300
condition. And I'm out of my mind because I saw
01:14:28.300 --> 01:14:31.649
a street pharmacist. Those are different. And
01:14:31.649 --> 01:14:33.229
you know those are different. Of course they're
01:14:33.229 --> 01:14:35.350
different. Those are different. No, I get it.
01:14:35.489 --> 01:14:38.510
You're trying to cross that Rubicon. Those are
01:14:38.510 --> 01:14:40.409
very different things. Well, I don't think so,
01:14:40.470 --> 01:14:42.470
ma'am, because I think what it is that we just
01:14:42.470 --> 01:14:47.409
cheapen life so much. Look, I'm not saying that
01:14:47.409 --> 01:14:50.500
the woman who killed her kids is innocent. Just
01:14:50.500 --> 01:14:52.140
to be clear, I'm not saying that. No, I'm not
01:14:52.140 --> 01:14:53.739
saying she's guilty. I think you and me are on
01:14:53.739 --> 01:14:56.819
the same side on this. If indeed she was out
01:14:56.819 --> 01:14:59.119
of postpartum depression and she was having all
01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:02.689
of the pregnancy stuff, if that's the case, the
01:15:02.689 --> 01:15:04.689
husband doesn't believe it, but if that's the
01:15:04.689 --> 01:15:06.510
case, that's not the same thing as her taking
01:15:06.510 --> 01:15:10.439
drugs. I don't know, man. It's just not. Because,
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:13.079
listen, I agree with you, but if the argument
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:15.500
is, if the defense is, I was out of my mind,
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:19.779
and in the Clancy case, she was an RN, she was
01:15:19.779 --> 01:15:23.180
an OB nurse. She was being treated for depression.
01:15:23.340 --> 01:15:25.619
She was going to all these doctors. She was getting
01:15:25.619 --> 01:15:30.199
treated. She kills her kids. And then the defense
01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:33.250
is, well, she's out of her mind. Well, if that's
01:15:33.250 --> 01:15:36.760
acceptable there. Well, look, look,
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.220
you're right that there's a conflict there, right? It
01:15:39.220 --> 01:15:46.180
reminds me of DUI. So if I'm drunk, by definition,
01:15:46.180 --> 01:15:48.939
I go out and run someone over. Well,
01:15:49.020 --> 01:15:52.930
okay. Our law says because I'm a drunk asshole,
01:15:53.130 --> 01:15:55.250
I shouldn't have gotten in the car and then I
01:15:55.250 --> 01:15:56.810
should go to prison for a long time because I
01:15:56.810 --> 01:16:00.750
ran over someone. Fair. But it's also true that
01:16:00.750 --> 01:16:02.970
because I was a drunk asshole, I didn't have
01:16:02.970 --> 01:16:04.810
the judgment to know that I shouldn't get in
01:16:04.810 --> 01:16:07.310
the car. Yeah, but the judgment is paying before
01:16:07.310 --> 01:16:10.090
you're drunk. Meaning that's where you're getting
01:16:10.090 --> 01:16:12.250
deemed. You're not getting deemed behind the
01:16:12.250 --> 01:16:13.930
wheel. You're getting deemed behind the wheel.
01:16:13.930 --> 01:16:16.210
But the legal system is inconsistent here, right?
01:16:16.729 --> 01:16:19.409
How? Well, because in the case of the Clancy
01:16:19.409 --> 01:16:23.369
case, she's got psychosis. So therefore
01:16:23.369 --> 01:16:26.770
she's not responsible. True. I guess that's the
01:16:26.770 --> 01:16:29.850
difference. That's the difference. That's the
01:16:29.850 --> 01:16:32.329
difference. Right. She didn't do anything intentionally
01:16:32.329 --> 01:16:36.409
in order to cause her psychosis. If you
01:16:36.409 --> 01:16:40.149
take Special K and then you rape someone,
01:16:40.149 --> 01:16:41.789
that's on you. You shouldn't have taken the Special
01:16:41.789 --> 01:16:45.220
K. It's an illegal drug anyway. In fact, I don't
01:16:45.220 --> 01:16:46.619
even know how you take Special K and rape anybody.
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.000
She was the one that was on Special K. Right,
01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:52.600
but we have no idea. There's no word from the
01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:56.420
reporting as to the state of the dudes. We know
01:16:56.420 --> 01:17:00.699
everyone was drinking. Special K would have knocked
01:17:00.699 --> 01:17:03.500
them out. Special K is, it puts you, it's like
01:17:03.500 --> 01:17:05.560
a... So they just would have taken a nap next
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:08.600
to her. Right. They would have just been... I've
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.520
never tried it, so yeah. I've never tried it,
01:17:11.539 --> 01:17:13.850
but I do know what it is. I just think that the
01:17:13.850 --> 01:17:17.529
best thing to do if you're at a university, if
01:17:17.529 --> 01:17:20.229
you're at a college, don't put yourself in this
01:17:20.229 --> 01:17:22.909
kind of situation. Totally. And people are going
01:17:22.909 --> 01:17:25.090
to say, well, Robby's victim blaming. However,
01:17:25.210 --> 01:17:27.689
let me just say that partying and drinking
01:17:27.689 --> 01:17:30.409
is always going to be a part of college and university
01:17:30.409 --> 01:17:33.609
life. And I've been to a lot of fucking crazy,
01:17:33.649 --> 01:17:38.670
drunken, insane. I was at a party where
01:17:38.670 --> 01:17:43.229
two dudes were so drunk that they fell off the
01:17:43.229 --> 01:17:45.350
roof of the building they were leaning on. They
01:17:45.350 --> 01:17:48.869
were on the roof and they leaned, they leaned
01:17:48.869 --> 01:17:53.210
back and they fell off six floors. Six floors
01:17:53.210 --> 01:17:56.289
straight, straight to the sidewalk in New York
01:17:56.289 --> 01:18:01.170
City. Okay. No soft landing. Okay. Not. But here's
01:18:01.170 --> 01:18:04.470
the funny part. They were set. They were so drunk
01:18:04.470 --> 01:18:07.710
that they felt they weren't stiff when they landed.
01:18:08.100 --> 01:18:11.359
And so they survived because they sort of had
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:15.000
the floppy bounce. That's like babies often survive
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:19.260
falls like that because they bounce. But if you
01:18:19.260 --> 01:18:21.880
stiff up, which is the normal thing to do when
01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:25.439
you're headed toward the ground, you're more
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:28.239
brittle, apparently. It's very strange. I had
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:30.380
a guy that did that in Upper Brown. Upper Brown
01:18:30.380 --> 01:18:32.300
was the Virginia Union. It's a historic Black
01:18:32.300 --> 01:18:34.819
college in Richmond. And I used to go to a program
01:18:34.819 --> 01:18:36.439
just before going to college. It was like this
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:39.680
preparatory thing that you used to stay with.
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.319
And I remember the guys got so drunk because
01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:46.159
keep in mind your TAs, the people who are overseeing
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:48.899
you are in college. You were in high school.
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:52.359
And so all of the people are men on one side
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:54.140
and you have all of the women in another campus
01:18:54.140 --> 01:18:57.960
on the other side. And men are men. You're
01:18:57.960 --> 01:18:59.579
dealing with college guys who are a few
01:18:59.579 --> 01:19:01.680
years older. And so we used to have these fights.
01:19:01.739 --> 01:19:03.600
They used to take place between the staff versus
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:08.609
the... God, that just brings back memories. One
01:19:08.609 --> 01:19:11.289
of the guys got so drunk but he fell off one
01:19:11.289 --> 01:19:13.810
of the balconies and lands on the floor and is
01:19:13.810 --> 01:19:16.510
so drunk he doesn't realize what just took place.
01:19:16.510 --> 01:19:19.050
He's like, oh, what just, what happened, man? What
01:19:19.050 --> 01:19:21.430
happened? When you, God, man, did some of the
01:19:21.430 --> 01:19:24.510
that we used to do. Oh my God. Alcohol. Dude,
01:19:24.510 --> 01:19:28.529
I had a roommate. Okay. He was, we'll
01:19:28.529 --> 01:19:32.880
call him Chris because his name was Chris. So
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:35.579
we were three musketeers, me, Dan, and Chris.
01:19:35.659 --> 01:19:37.979
We all got expelled from college together, right?
01:19:38.220 --> 01:19:43.119
But before we got expelled, one morning, Chris
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.119
and Dan and I go to a party across campus. It's
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.260
sponsored by these girls. Dan and I find
01:19:49.260 --> 01:19:52.199
it boring, so we leave and go back to our dorms
01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:55.020
and go to sleep. Chris stays. He's like, I'm
01:19:55.020 --> 01:19:56.859
going to hang out. He's flirting with some girl.
01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:58.560
And we're like, maybe Chris is going to get some
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:01.859
for once. Anyway, the next morning, no Chris.
01:20:02.100 --> 01:20:03.779
And we're like, we don't think anything of it.
01:20:03.819 --> 01:20:05.619
We figure he's sleeping with some
01:20:05.619 --> 01:20:08.939
girl. Evening rolls around. And we're
01:20:08.939 --> 01:20:12.069
like, it's a little worrisome. No Chris.
01:20:12.189 --> 01:20:14.069
He hasn't shown up. It's not really like him.
01:20:14.409 --> 01:20:17.970
So we go back to the party, knock on the door.
01:20:18.029 --> 01:20:20.449
And they're like, no, no, no. He left shortly
01:20:20.449 --> 01:20:22.649
after you guys. And now we're starting to get
01:20:22.649 --> 01:20:25.189
worried because it's wait, he's been MIA
01:20:25.189 --> 01:20:29.710
now for nearly 24 hours. We're like, ah, God,
01:20:29.890 --> 01:20:34.729
what the fuck happened? And so we go to the elevator.
01:20:35.170 --> 01:20:37.409
We're waiting for the elevator. It takes a really
01:20:37.409 --> 01:20:39.369
long time. So we're like, fuck it. Let's take
01:20:39.369 --> 01:20:42.510
the stairs. We go into the stairwell. We round
01:20:42.510 --> 01:20:46.890
the corner. And there's Chris in a pool of every
01:20:46.890 --> 01:20:54.739
bodily secretion, right? Out cold. Unconscious
01:20:54.739 --> 01:20:58.439
the entire time. He's been out for 20 hours.
01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:07.649
So we're like, oh, he got that drunk. Yeah. He got
01:21:07.649 --> 01:21:10.729
that drunk. He was still out. So we went and got
01:21:10.729 --> 01:21:12.970
we went to the janitor's closet and got
01:21:12.970 --> 01:21:17.689
a bucket of water and would sploosh and
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:22.829
woke him up. That's insane. That's how drunk people
01:21:22.829 --> 01:21:25.550
get, right? Yeah, that's insane. See, I've never
01:21:25.550 --> 01:21:27.630
been that drunk. I've been drunk enough where
01:21:27.630 --> 01:21:30.670
I've never been drunk to the point of unconsciousness.
01:21:30.670 --> 01:21:33.789
Oh, I have. Yeah. Yeah. I've never been that drunk.
01:21:33.789 --> 01:21:36.310
I've never been. I've never been Chris drunk, though.
01:21:36.310 --> 01:21:38.670
Well, and I maintain my waking state of consciousness,
01:21:38.670 --> 01:21:42.010
meaning I'm still this person even when my body
01:21:42.010 --> 01:21:44.739
is trying to throw up and everything else.
01:21:44.739 --> 01:21:46.659
It's I'm like it's almost like there's something
01:21:46.659 --> 01:21:49.159
behind that way. Yeah. I'm like you that way.
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:51.479
I have presence of mind. It's being that
01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:54.220
drunk is not going to make me, for example,
01:21:54.220 --> 01:21:56.840
want to have sex with an unconscious girl
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:58.979
or something. It would be I'd still have the presence
01:21:58.979 --> 01:22:01.539
of mind. Time to go home, right? Help me. Help
01:22:01.539 --> 01:22:05.020
me understand what's fun about this. I don't understand.
01:22:05.020 --> 01:22:08.640
That's okay. I don't get that. No, I mean about
01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:12.300
getting so drunk that you're out of your mind,
01:22:12.340 --> 01:22:16.260
passing out, pissing all over yourself. I do not
01:22:16.260 --> 01:22:21.880
understand the thrill. Why would anyone put something
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:25.479
in their body that breaks your mind? But the
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:27.619
goal is not to get to that point. The goal is
01:22:27.619 --> 01:22:30.199
to get to a nice sweet spot, but people overshoot
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:32.470
the sweet spot. That's exactly what it is.
01:22:32.470 --> 01:22:35.050
So people, this is about young people who
01:22:35.050 --> 01:22:37.390
are learning how to drink and they don't know
01:22:37.390 --> 01:22:40.149
how to drink, right? So they drink too much.
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.279
It's kind of like you're testing your limits
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:45.619
as a kid. How much can I get away with with my
01:22:45.619 --> 01:22:48.079
parents? How sassy and spicy can I be with my
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:50.539
parents before they hit me? This is like that.
01:22:50.739 --> 01:22:53.180
How many drinks can I have before I end up with
01:22:53.180 --> 01:22:56.659
bedspins or unconscious in the stairwell or whatever?
01:22:57.939 --> 01:23:01.239
By the time you're my age, you know how many
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:03.220
drinks you can have, and it doesn't happen anymore.
01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:09.020
There are some people who want to get smashed.
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:12.159
And I have certainly been in that mode,
01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:14.399
during a breakup or something like that. But
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:18.800
usually it's just what Jamarl says. But in terms
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.640
of the drinking itself, you're doing it because
01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:25.000
it loosens you up. And it's especially
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:28.119
if you're, you have inhibitions and you're
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:30.659
uptight and you're maybe shy and you're
01:23:30.659 --> 01:23:33.439
scared to talk to girls or whatever. It's sort
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:36.439
of, it gives you some liquid courage. The
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:40.579
music is playing. The atmosphere is good.
01:23:40.579 --> 01:23:42.399
When we used to play chess we used to drink and
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:44.699
play chess or smoke pot. It depends on the person.
01:23:44.699 --> 01:23:48.060
Each person had their own vice. But
01:23:48.060 --> 01:23:50.619
these are older men, right? So it's my bottle
01:23:50.619 --> 01:23:53.680
of Courvoisier. I know how much to drink and maintain
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:56.439
myself, right? Or the guy's smoking. I know
01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:58.720
how much to maintain and maintain my faculties.
01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:01.659
Yeah. I like to drink. I like to drink wine
01:24:01.659 --> 01:24:03.800
when I play chess but it's not good for my chess
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:07.159
playing. Oh, I used to do tequila. God, man, I
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:10.020
remember this guy who, for the life of him, could
01:24:10.020 --> 01:24:12.300
not understand why he kept losing. And so he
01:24:12.300 --> 01:24:14.479
kept buying shots of tequila. And I think I was
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:16.579
picking seven shots in, and he was still losing
01:24:16.579 --> 01:24:20.340
the game. And by the time I had left, I was so
01:24:20.340 --> 01:24:22.840
smashed. And I remember getting home, throwing
01:24:22.840 --> 01:24:25.300
up, and just passing out. But he never won a game.
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:29.939
He still never won a game. Oh, I'm sure. No,
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:33.039
I was totally smashed. But again, I don't really
01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:36.930
drink like that. I don't know. So Duskburn about
01:24:36.930 --> 01:24:40.130
this rape case says she described thinking that
01:24:40.130 --> 01:24:43.149
if she passed out and the men had sex with her,
01:24:43.229 --> 01:24:45.750
they could be charged with rape. The only reference
01:24:45.750 --> 01:24:47.689
of rape mentioned in the document, according
01:24:47.689 --> 01:24:52.510
to ABC News. Wait, I don't get it. And also,
01:24:52.630 --> 01:24:57.229
Sierra Julia, sorry, as a woman who's been raped
01:24:57.229 --> 01:24:59.909
on campus, I do not believe her. It was a wild
01:24:59.909 --> 01:25:02.210
party. Kids were being idiots. Keep your legs
01:25:02.210 --> 01:25:05.270
closed and have respect for your body. Boys,
01:25:05.289 --> 01:25:08.289
keep it zipped. True. I do accept that.
01:25:08.550 --> 01:25:11.529
But the problem is the five other guys.
01:25:12.029 --> 01:25:14.170
Meaning, if you say, okay, I'm going to take
01:25:14.170 --> 01:25:16.210
this cut of me and I'm going to let two guys
01:25:16.210 --> 01:25:18.529
have sex with me. That's what I want. That's
01:25:18.529 --> 01:25:20.689
my, that's within my wants right now for whatever
01:25:20.689 --> 01:25:23.109
particular reason and then they turn around and
01:25:23.109 --> 01:25:26.649
say hey guys the door's open let's have some
01:25:26.649 --> 01:25:30.029
fun. Okay that's deeply problematic. Oh yeah. And
01:25:30.029 --> 01:25:32.090
I agree with all of you making the point to say
01:25:32.090 --> 01:25:34.869
well look she was defenseless. She allowed
01:25:34.869 --> 01:25:36.489
herself to be put into this particular position.
01:25:36.489 --> 01:25:39.810
Although that's true but that doesn't, that doesn't
01:25:39.810 --> 01:25:43.529
absolve exactly the dudes at all. Yeah.
01:25:43.529 --> 01:25:44.770
That's what I was going to ask. That doesn't really
01:25:44.770 --> 01:25:46.890
absolve them for saying, hey, the door is open.
01:25:46.989 --> 01:25:49.250
Come on in. Have sex with this woman who gave
01:25:49.250 --> 01:25:52.449
us consent. In fact, quite the opposite. I hate
01:25:52.449 --> 01:25:54.470
to say it, but let's say you're one of the two
01:25:54.470 --> 01:25:58.970
guys. You should be, and she passes
01:25:58.970 --> 01:26:02.149
out. At that point, you're supposed to lock the
01:26:02.149 --> 01:26:05.460
door, put a blanket over her, put a glass of
01:26:05.460 --> 01:26:08.159
water next to her and leave and tell all the
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:09.899
other dudes to stay the fuck out of her room,
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:11.760
right? Well, she agreed to have sex with the
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.819
two guys. Yeah, but I'm saying the first two
01:26:14.819 --> 01:26:17.630
guys should have looked out for her.
01:26:17.789 --> 01:26:19.449
No, I guess I'm saying, no, I agree with you
01:26:19.449 --> 01:26:20.510
that the first two guys should have looked out
01:26:20.510 --> 01:26:22.449
for her. I'm saying the entire point of it all
01:26:22.449 --> 01:26:25.010
was to have sex with somebody on ketamine, meaning
01:26:25.010 --> 01:26:27.390
they were accomplishing their objective. The
01:26:27.390 --> 01:26:29.289
issue comes in where they allow five other guys
01:26:29.289 --> 01:26:31.670
to come in, meaning it's her right to say, I
01:26:31.670 --> 01:26:33.409
want to fuck two guys on ketamine. Yeah, totally.
01:26:33.409 --> 01:26:37.319
I have the right to do that. Yeah. I don't take
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:39.560
issue with it, right? There's nothing wrong with
01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:41.380
having group sex. That's not the issue here.
01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:42.579
There's nothing wrong with having group sex.
01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:44.239
I don't mean to take issue with you taking ketamine
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:46.140
and having group sex. The issue is you decided
01:26:46.140 --> 01:26:48.539
to do that shit with two kids who didn't give
01:26:48.539 --> 01:26:50.500
a shit about you and who brought in a bunch of
01:26:50.500 --> 01:26:52.800
other guys to have fun with. Yeah, in a frat,
01:26:52.819 --> 01:26:55.199
which is probably not a safe zone. Of all places.
01:26:56.100 --> 01:27:01.329
I guess for me, and I realize I'm coming from
01:27:01.329 --> 01:27:04.229
this from my experience with it. I grew up. There's
01:27:04.229 --> 01:27:06.699
a whole lot in this world that scares me. Alcohol
01:27:06.699 --> 01:27:08.600
and drugs is one of them. Anything that screws
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:10.840
with my mind because I see how destructive it
01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:15.119
is. And I don't think that people have enough
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:19.640
respect for just how destructive and how absolutely
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:22.439
evil, and I'm using that word deliberately, those
01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:27.840
substances are. If you do that, you're putting
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:32.489
yourself at the mercy of other people and you
01:27:32.489 --> 01:27:34.649
have no idea what's going to happen. Look, I
01:27:34.649 --> 01:27:37.779
would say pot opens my heart center. Meaning
01:27:37.779 --> 01:27:40.100
it makes me feel more. It makes me give a shit
01:27:40.100 --> 01:27:42.319
more. It makes me care more in a way that gives
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.420
me a different perspective on people, reality,
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.100
situations, all sorts of shit in a way that just
01:27:48.100 --> 01:27:51.159
wouldn't even cross my mind under normal circumstances.
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:55.960
I am not a fan of alcohol. My grandfather was
01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:58.659
alcoholic. It's extraordinarily destructive.
01:28:01.729 --> 01:28:03.689
And so I have issues with it. Alcohol in general,
01:28:03.689 --> 01:28:06.109
right? I don't like. I'm not a big fan of drunks.
01:28:06.109 --> 01:28:07.810
I'm not a big fan of alcoholics especially. I
01:28:07.810 --> 01:28:09.890
don't even like to be around them having a drink
01:28:09.890 --> 01:28:12.170
or something. I don't really care about. And
01:28:12.170 --> 01:28:14.130
I would go to a bar and drink and smoke with
01:28:14.130 --> 01:28:16.130
somebody if we hung out and that type
01:28:16.130 --> 01:28:21.380
of stuff but alcoholics less so. But pot it's
01:28:21.380 --> 01:28:25.880
not. I don't know. It's different. Maybe
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:28.739
Blues Funk is calling us to task here. You
01:28:28.739 --> 01:28:30.640
guys have had some really bizarre takes on women
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:35.229
recently. Please elaborate. Please elaborate.
01:28:35.390 --> 01:28:36.630
Yeah, correct me on it. Because I could
01:28:36.630 --> 01:28:38.369
be wrong. You're talking to three men
01:28:38.369 --> 01:28:41.350
who may have a certain take. Again, my
01:28:41.350 --> 01:28:45.470
take is that this is rape if she's right. So
01:28:45.470 --> 01:28:47.689
I don't know how that's... The thing
01:28:47.689 --> 01:28:50.109
is, it's so fucked up, right? Because it's
01:28:50.229 --> 01:28:55.010
how do you... The system isn't set up to deal
01:28:55.010 --> 01:28:59.689
with a situation like this. It's
01:28:59.689 --> 01:29:02.369
what are the authorities?
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.199
The authorities suck when it comes to rape accusations.
01:29:05.500 --> 01:29:08.920
But in fairness to the campus police and to Ithaca's
01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:11.720
finest, what are they supposed to do when you
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:14.279
come to them and there were drugs
01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:17.279
involved? And people were unconscious and
01:29:17.279 --> 01:29:19.079
some people may have been there and might not
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:22.140
have been there. And there's no physical evidence
01:29:22.140 --> 01:29:24.720
and everything is the first reports were
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:28.460
three weeks late. It's all so famished,
01:29:28.460 --> 01:29:30.979
right? And the believe women thing doesn't really
01:29:30.979 --> 01:29:32.560
apply because that's not really the way the law
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:35.439
works. You have to. Right, not to mention,
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:39.960
I would say listen to women, listen to men, listen
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:43.439
to everybody, but don't believe, don't
01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:45.640
just believe people. Well you have a burden of
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:48.819
proof that you're stuck with meaning even if
01:29:48.819 --> 01:29:50.779
the rape took place even if everything in this
01:29:50.779 --> 01:29:52.760
happened exactly the same way that she said it
01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:55.119
happened you still have a burden of proof that
01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:58.960
you have to prove. Yeah. I'll be honest
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:02.779
here. I think I do believe her. And
01:30:02.779 --> 01:30:05.920
I kind of think so. I think ethically,
01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:11.619
legally those five last guys all or some or most
01:30:11.619 --> 01:30:13.680
of them or some of them are rapists, right? All
01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:15.380
of them are rapists. But the question is, what
01:30:15.380 --> 01:30:17.720
the fuck can you do about it under our system
01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:21.020
where you can only send someone to prison when
01:30:21.020 --> 01:30:24.000
you can convict beyond a reasonable doubt? I
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.100
don't think any prosecutor could convince any
01:30:27.100 --> 01:30:31.699
jury of 12 men and women to convict beyond a
01:30:31.699 --> 01:30:34.020
reasonable doubt with this amount of evidence
01:30:34.020 --> 01:30:36.119
unless there's stuff that we haven't heard yet,
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:36.960
which they're very well aware of. I think they
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:38.439
can get the conviction, but I don't know if the
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.939
conviction is legit. Because as you point out,
01:30:40.939 --> 01:30:42.760
how do you convict beyond a reasonable doubt?
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:44.880
Less than two guys just come on and say,
01:30:44.979 --> 01:30:48.279
yeah, we invited five other guys in. Yeah. If
01:30:48.279 --> 01:30:51.180
they do that, fair enough. The Snapchat does
01:30:51.180 --> 01:30:57.010
provide evidence. Yes. Yeah. But it's...
01:30:57.010 --> 01:30:59.909
It's evidence. It's not proof. Yeah.
01:30:59.909 --> 01:31:02.609
The problem is, if they indeed invited
01:31:02.609 --> 01:31:04.630
the five other guys in, they're all guilty, right?
01:31:05.140 --> 01:31:07.319
Not just the five that were brought in,
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:09.640
but the two that allowed the other two to come
01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:11.720
in to rape her in the first place. Meaning,
01:31:11.819 --> 01:31:14.380
for one, look, ladies, if you're in college,
01:31:14.619 --> 01:31:17.779
keep in mind you're dealing with a 17-year-old
01:31:17.779 --> 01:31:20.289
or 18-year-old. You're dealing with a child,
01:31:20.409 --> 01:31:25.239
right? Yeah. I know they may say things to you
01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:27.800
in order to get you. There's a song by Florence
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:31.119
and the Machine where she, what is it called?
01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:34.380
Sympathy for, sympathy, sympathy for love, sympathy
01:31:34.380 --> 01:31:38.229
for something. But in part of the song, she goes
01:31:38.229 --> 01:31:41.489
into this thing of love where she's saying it
01:31:41.489 --> 01:31:43.470
out loud and it cuts through you, right? Like
01:31:43.470 --> 01:31:46.130
a wind. But then you realize that there's a part
01:31:46.130 --> 01:31:48.310
of it where it goes into very sexual behavior
01:31:48.310 --> 01:31:50.029
where she's laying on the ground and
01:31:50.029 --> 01:31:51.869
hopping in the air and stuff like that. And you
01:31:51.869 --> 01:31:53.449
think to yourself, okay, but these two things,
01:31:53.529 --> 01:31:57.279
what she's saying in the headspace that
01:31:57.279 --> 01:32:00.079
the person is in, the headspace is, I'm in love
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.619
with this person. This is love. This is pure
01:32:02.619 --> 01:32:05.979
love. And then it's but love's being fused
01:32:05.979 --> 01:32:07.619
with sex. Both of these things are coming in
01:32:07.619 --> 01:32:09.460
correlation with one another. But how do you
01:32:09.460 --> 01:32:10.960
know that that's in the other person's mind?
01:32:11.500 --> 01:32:14.720
The song is amazing to me. Sympathy of Magic
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:17.359
or something. Magic Sympathy or something. Whatever
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:21.100
the song is. It's in her mind. The entire
01:32:21.100 --> 01:32:23.020
song is something that's happening in a person's
01:32:23.020 --> 01:32:27.079
mind. And I thought to myself, if she's 18 and
01:32:27.270 --> 01:32:29.229
you're dealing with another 18-year-old, that's
01:32:29.229 --> 01:32:34.239
not in his mind. The song is amazing in a way
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:36.180
that it fuses sex and love together as one thing,
01:32:36.220 --> 01:32:39.020
as if this is one solid note that is coming out
01:32:39.020 --> 01:32:40.859
of this particular individual. You have no fucking
01:32:40.859 --> 01:32:42.340
clue what's in that person's mind. If they're
01:32:42.340 --> 01:32:46.550
17, 18, 19, it's probably not love. It wasn't
01:32:46.550 --> 01:32:50.970
love for me at that age. It was for me. Really?
01:32:51.210 --> 01:32:56.770
I was head over heels. Yeah, totally. Wow. I
01:32:56.770 --> 01:33:00.899
was head over heels later in life. Yeah.
01:33:00.939 --> 01:33:06.539
You can definitely be insanely in love at that
01:33:06.539 --> 01:33:09.939
age. No question about it. Of course. No, no.
01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:13.720
I'm not taking it away. I'm just saying many
01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:20.329
guys, 17, 18, 19, there is a very strong urge
01:33:21.319 --> 01:33:24.060
that is in those guys. Oh, no, it's
01:33:24.140 --> 01:33:26.960
fucking insane. Honestly,
01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:29.960
probably, boys that age should be locked
01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:33.460
up and not allowed to walk around in society.
01:33:35.500 --> 01:33:38.899
She took my virginity, the first woman I had
01:33:38.899 --> 01:33:41.560
direct sex with. So here we go. Okay, so maybe
01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:45.659
Blues Funk elaborated a little bit, not just protective-like.
01:33:45.659 --> 01:33:50.630
We also need to confront men and not just
01:33:50.630 --> 01:33:54.010
make our lives small because of fear. They should
01:33:54.010 --> 01:33:57.699
be afraid that we'll fight back. Wait, I don't
01:33:57.699 --> 01:33:58.819
know what that means, though. I'm not really
01:33:58.819 --> 01:34:01.000
sure what that means either. But I think what
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:03.119
it basically means is that women shouldn't have,
01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:06.159
why should women be living a life of fear, right?
01:34:06.260 --> 01:34:07.479
They shouldn't be living a life of fear, which
01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:11.239
was the reason why I made the argument. A woman
01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:15.159
has every right to say, I want to take care of
01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:18.569
me and I want to have sex with you. God bless
01:34:18.569 --> 01:34:22.189
her, right? Yeah, seriously. That is nothing
01:34:22.189 --> 01:34:24.170
wrong with that. That's her choice. For me, that's
01:34:24.170 --> 01:34:27.250
a free will issue. It is not up for the other
01:34:27.250 --> 01:34:31.869
guys to say, hey guys, the party's here. Let's
01:34:31.869 --> 01:34:34.850
all have sex with this unconscious woman who
01:34:34.850 --> 01:34:37.090
had no idea. Yeah, fuck that Brett Kavanaugh
01:34:37.090 --> 01:34:40.670
bullshit. Yeah, no. It's nonsense. Meaning,
01:34:40.670 --> 01:34:44.550
even if she is vulnerable. You shouldn't have
01:34:44.550 --> 01:34:46.850
to be worried about all the more reason if, look,
01:34:46.890 --> 01:34:50.430
if anyone is vulnerable, that's basic
01:34:50.430 --> 01:34:53.449
humanity that you should protect them
01:34:53.449 --> 01:34:55.869
and take care of them. I didn't leave Chris in
01:34:55.869 --> 01:34:58.449
the stairwell. You know what I mean? It's
01:34:58.449 --> 01:35:00.750
when you see
01:35:00.750 --> 01:35:02.310
people in trouble, you're supposed to protect
01:35:02.310 --> 01:35:07.930
them. No, I remember one night,
01:35:07.930 --> 01:35:10.409
look, and by the way, I do really
01:35:10.409 --> 01:35:12.890
appreciate this comment from Duskburn. I respect
01:35:12.890 --> 01:35:14.890
JT and Ted and Robby for literally just being
01:35:14.890 --> 01:35:17.350
straight with their audience, even if they're
01:35:17.350 --> 01:35:20.010
fucked up, LOL. I don't think we're fucked up.
01:35:20.090 --> 01:35:24.090
How are we fucked up? We're talking about hard,
01:35:24.130 --> 01:35:27.909
real shit here. One time I met a girl at a bar
01:35:27.909 --> 01:35:33.020
and we went to her place and things got literally
01:35:33.020 --> 01:35:35.859
right up to the point of penetration. And then
01:35:35.859 --> 01:35:39.420
she said, I'd rather just stop
01:35:39.420 --> 01:35:41.640
at this point and maybe we can just hug. And
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:44.579
I was like, listen. So I stopped immediately.
01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:47.619
I was drunk, but I have that presence of mind.
01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:50.159
I stopped and I was like, you know what? I should
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:51.920
just go home. And I went home. But what are you
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:53.859
supposed to do? I went home and I jerked off.
01:35:53.979 --> 01:35:58.220
Right. But I remember thinking to myself, I will
01:35:59.449 --> 01:36:02.529
never. She's this is dangerous, right?
01:36:02.529 --> 01:36:05.250
She might do this with someone else and
01:36:05.250 --> 01:36:08.390
if she takes some dumb-ass jock home
01:36:08.390 --> 01:36:10.510
it might end badly and I was just thinking
01:36:10.510 --> 01:36:13.310
now did I, was I a hero? No I just did what you're
01:36:13.310 --> 01:36:18.640
supposed to do. But the fact
01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:21.140
is there's physical... No, women shouldn't be
01:36:21.140 --> 01:36:23.359
more afraid than men. But the fact is that men,
01:36:23.380 --> 01:36:25.739
on average, are bigger and stronger than women.
01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:30.180
So it's the reality of the physical composition
01:36:30.180 --> 01:36:34.350
of our species. Yeah, I just... In that
01:36:34.350 --> 01:36:35.869
moment, were we supposed to be forced to switch
01:36:35.869 --> 01:36:38.090
to the Foreigner? That's what I mean.
01:36:38.170 --> 01:36:41.069
I don't even see... It's not being a hero.
01:36:41.229 --> 01:36:43.909
Maybe Blues Funk says, yeah, again, the
01:36:43.909 --> 01:36:45.569
way you're framing this, it's all about what
01:36:45.569 --> 01:36:49.489
the man needs. Not at all. I'm framing it by
01:36:49.489 --> 01:36:53.739
what the man needs? No. I'm going to catch some
01:36:53.739 --> 01:36:55.760
flack from what I'm about to say. And I understand
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:59.140
that. First time ever. But I'm coming
01:36:59.140 --> 01:37:03.109
to y'all as sincerely and as open-hearted as
01:37:03.109 --> 01:37:07.060
I possibly can. If I had it my way, if I was
01:37:07.060 --> 01:37:10.329
made dictator, I would ban drugs. God help us
01:37:10.329 --> 01:37:13.350
all. I would ban alcohol. And anyone who was
01:37:13.350 --> 01:37:15.649
caught selling it would be executed because of
01:37:15.649 --> 01:37:19.069
how dangerous this crap is. It's a very, very
01:37:19.069 --> 01:37:21.489
dangerous drug. And people play with it. People
01:37:21.489 --> 01:37:24.670
use it. It kills tens of thousands of people.
01:37:25.369 --> 01:37:26.909
And the reason why I'm coming at this, I have
01:37:26.909 --> 01:37:30.369
been the victims of it. I've got the scars on
01:37:30.369 --> 01:37:32.710
my body from where my mother threw boiling hot
01:37:32.710 --> 01:37:34.729
water on me when I was five years old because
01:37:34.729 --> 01:37:36.890
I asked her for something to eat because she
01:37:36.890 --> 01:37:39.250
was stolen out of her mind. My father broke my
01:37:39.250 --> 01:37:41.649
left arm because he was drunk out of his mind.
01:37:42.010 --> 01:37:46.310
There is nothing good at all. At all. At all.
01:37:47.020 --> 01:37:52.239
About drugs or alcohol. It is a poison. Run away
01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:58.939
from it. Seriously. What I'm saying is going to
01:37:58.939 --> 01:38:01.500
piss people off and people say there's Robby
01:38:01.500 --> 01:38:04.600
being a Nazi. Fine. So be it. But that's where I'm
01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:06.600
coming from. I'm being as honest with
01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:10.140
y'all as I can. If you love your kids encourage
01:38:10.659 --> 01:38:12.819
them to stay away from this crap. And football.
01:38:12.899 --> 01:38:15.239
No football. I would tell you that I would ban
01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:18.100
hamburgers if you're going to ban alcohol. I
01:38:18.100 --> 01:38:21.140
would ban fast food places. There's so much shit
01:38:21.140 --> 01:38:22.720
that you could ban that's going to cause people
01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:26.119
to die and all this other stuff. Objectively,
01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:28.100
look, everything Robby said is right.
01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:30.720
First of all, I hate drugs. I don't think everything
01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:33.279
Robby said was right. I don't think that this
01:38:33.279 --> 01:38:35.560
stuff is without alcohol. Okay, fair enough.
01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:40.319
Again, it's a little complicated, but
01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:44.869
overall. Meaning, my grandfather was an
01:38:44.869 --> 01:38:48.739
asshole even before the alcohol. Sure. I have
01:38:48.739 --> 01:38:50.460
other family members who were fucked up before
01:38:50.460 --> 01:38:52.840
the drugs. It wasn't the drugs. They were already
01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:57.970
fucked. In vino veritas, right? In wine, truth.
01:38:58.630 --> 01:39:01.050
It's when people are,
01:39:01.069 --> 01:39:04.069
drugs, especially alcohol, tends to expose your
01:39:04.069 --> 01:39:07.130
real personality. It doesn't turn nice people
01:39:07.130 --> 01:39:09.470
into monsters. Yeah. I don't know any
01:39:09.470 --> 01:39:13.520
person who... It's when Mel Gibson was pulled
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:15.859
over by that cop and he spewed off a bunch of
01:39:15.859 --> 01:39:18.260
anti-Semitic bullshit. Yeah, that's Mel Gibson.
01:39:19.060 --> 01:39:23.800
Yeah, a non-anti-Semitic guy isn't going
01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:26.819
to do that. Right. He doesn't think that, right?
01:39:27.529 --> 01:39:31.739
I don't know. Alcohol, yeah. Pot? I gotta
01:39:31.739 --> 01:39:33.800
be honest. I don't know anybody on pot who was
01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:36.619
wild and belligerent. If anything, they just
01:39:36.619 --> 01:39:40.470
chill the fuck out. Oh, I... The only time I
01:39:40.470 --> 01:39:44.489
did pot to any significant amount, I got belligerent.
01:39:45.069 --> 01:39:47.810
Did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not good for
01:39:47.810 --> 01:39:50.890
me at all. Even Chris, the degenerate druggie,
01:39:50.989 --> 01:39:55.649
he said I should never have pot ever. The people
01:39:55.649 --> 01:39:57.550
who I knew had pot, they were just... I'm basically
01:39:57.550 --> 01:40:00.630
allergic to it. Yeah, they were just zoners.
01:40:00.750 --> 01:40:02.770
And like I said, for me, just... So Matina has
01:40:02.770 --> 01:40:05.970
the question here. How do we make men consider
01:40:05.970 --> 01:40:09.199
the woman as a person? That is the question.
01:40:09.300 --> 01:40:11.560
Well, we all need to be considering each other
01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:15.739
as people. But I'm still, I'm old school.
01:40:15.859 --> 01:40:19.140
I do think men as the bigger, physically larger
01:40:19.140 --> 01:40:22.460
specimens of the species should be protective
01:40:22.460 --> 01:40:25.939
of women. Right. And if you know
01:40:25.939 --> 01:40:28.560
a woman is vulnerable, you should protect her.
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.800
You should protect the vulnerable in our society
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:33.239
should always be protected. But yeah,
01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:37.800
I think young guys often,
01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:40.000
they look at the opposite sex they
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.319
don't know them well and they don't understand
01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:44.060
them and they don't view them as people and they
01:40:44.060 --> 01:40:46.640
view them as sex objects. In fairness it
01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:48.500
can go the other way around too. I knew lots of
01:40:48.500 --> 01:40:51.359
girls who just viewed man as a meal ticket or
01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:55.020
whatever. But it goes both ways just
01:40:55.020 --> 01:40:59.010
different ways. Yeah. Dehumanization. Yeah. Let me
01:40:59.010 --> 01:41:01.529
actually this so this happened in real
01:41:01.529 --> 01:41:04.850
life. So when I first got back to
01:41:04.850 --> 01:41:09.170
the States I partially blind still is
01:41:09.170 --> 01:41:11.569
you can't see up my left eye, blood pressure
01:41:11.569 --> 01:41:16.109
issues and there was this woman who at the time
01:41:16.109 --> 01:41:18.229
was showing interest and I didn't understand
01:41:18.229 --> 01:41:21.289
why. In fact I didn't understand what was going
01:41:21.289 --> 01:41:22.869
on with her if I'm being bluntly honest with
01:41:22.869 --> 01:41:24.930
her. This was when I was traveling at the time
01:41:24.930 --> 01:41:27.609
still relatively good health at the time when
01:41:27.609 --> 01:41:29.210
I was traveling and she was showing interest.
01:41:29.210 --> 01:41:32.430
I really didn't pay her any mind. I didn't
01:41:32.430 --> 01:41:34.649
wasn't feeling her that way anything else. When
01:41:34.649 --> 01:41:38.649
I lay back into the U.S. We meet up and it's
01:41:38.649 --> 01:41:41.109
hey, all right, let's go paintball shooting.
01:41:41.810 --> 01:41:45.329
So for one, she doesn't dress for it. She has
01:41:45.329 --> 01:41:50.159
on almost a low top of sorts. And
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:51.680
it's supposed to be a costume paintball party.
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:53.659
So everybody was supposed to have costumes on
01:41:53.659 --> 01:41:55.619
when they had paintball. I end up as Superman.
01:41:55.840 --> 01:41:58.100
I forget. She ended up like a chef. But again,
01:41:58.180 --> 01:42:00.880
ill-prepared, not dressed for it. I had family
01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:02.539
members that came. And of course, the family
01:42:02.539 --> 01:42:04.739
members are like, who's that chick? Now, again,
01:42:04.859 --> 01:42:06.689
I wasn't bringing her there as a relationship
01:42:06.689 --> 01:42:07.970
thing. I was bringing her there just because
01:42:07.970 --> 01:42:10.710
I wanted, I think I was trying to make friends
01:42:10.710 --> 01:42:13.609
and I consider, okay, well, she's somebody new
01:42:13.609 --> 01:42:15.149
that I met, so I'll bring her with me, but it
01:42:15.149 --> 01:42:19.090
wasn't a relationship thing. She, everybody
01:42:19.090 --> 01:42:21.670
gets taken out of the game because everybody
01:42:21.670 --> 01:42:25.029
gets shot. She's the last person in. And the
01:42:25.029 --> 01:42:28.270
people have a pincer maneuver and ends up hitting
01:42:28.270 --> 01:42:31.069
her with three different shots, back
01:42:31.069 --> 01:42:34.489
to back to back. And she flips out. She loses
01:42:34.489 --> 01:42:38.819
her shit. The
01:42:38.819 --> 01:42:41.479
level of rage that came out of her was shocking. So shocking that
01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:43.939
my family member was like, who's this gangster
01:42:43.939 --> 01:42:48.880
chick that you're all... Right? It was
01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:51.340
shocking. All of us were like, whoa. She's
01:42:51.340 --> 01:42:53.819
you motherfuckers. You effing...
01:42:53.819 --> 01:42:56.460
Dropping 20 f-bombs. She was furious. Yeah.
01:42:56.859 --> 01:43:00.579
Furious. And I'm sitting there, watching
01:43:00.579 --> 01:43:03.069
this, whoa. That's the only thing that's
01:43:03.069 --> 01:43:07.260
on my mind. Whoa. And we go back. And come
01:43:07.260 --> 01:43:10.140
to find out, she's pissed off at me. And I'm
01:43:10.140 --> 01:43:12.579
why are you pissed off at me? I don't even
01:43:12.579 --> 01:43:14.479
realize she's pissed off at me until later. And
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:17.039
her thing was basically, you didn't defend me.
01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:21.300
Defend you how? You didn't go and what was I
01:43:21.300 --> 01:43:22.659
supposed to do? Have a fight with the people
01:43:22.659 --> 01:43:26.020
who shot you? And to be fair, they did shoot
01:43:26.020 --> 01:43:27.960
multiple times. These are guys who do paintball
01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:29.760
all the time. And they play paintball the way.
01:43:30.010 --> 01:43:32.050
Ted and I used to play chess. We used to be malicious
01:43:32.050 --> 01:43:33.649
when we used to play chess with each other. We
01:43:33.649 --> 01:43:35.189
used to try to humiliate the other person in
01:43:35.189 --> 01:43:37.909
public when we played chess. It's oh, look
01:43:37.909 --> 01:43:39.630
at that guy. He's sweating under his arms. He's
01:43:39.630 --> 01:43:41.470
getting his ass kicked. Oh, look at him. Everybody.
01:43:41.689 --> 01:43:43.810
And we want people to laugh. They
01:43:43.810 --> 01:43:45.649
played paintball in that kind of way, the malicious
01:43:45.649 --> 01:43:48.489
way. And her thing was kind of well, I
01:43:48.489 --> 01:43:50.770
wanted you to fight. Or at the very least, I
01:43:50.770 --> 01:43:53.670
wanted you to defend, quote, defend women. And
01:43:53.670 --> 01:43:56.319
it's you're in a paintball game. You're
01:43:56.319 --> 01:43:57.979
ill dressed for it. If you would have dressed
01:43:57.979 --> 01:44:00.399
for it properly, it wouldn't have hurt as much.
01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:04.350
There's that. And in general, it's paintball.
01:44:04.710 --> 01:44:07.979
It hurts. That's why I don't play paintball.
01:44:08.859 --> 01:44:10.800
But that's why I do play paintball. It's the
01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:13.739
risk. The risk is the part of it. The fact
01:44:13.739 --> 01:44:16.199
that you don't get hit. The fact that there's
01:44:16.199 --> 01:44:20.659
pain when you do get hit. That's the point. She
01:44:20.659 --> 01:44:23.659
was pissed. Yeah. Yeah. For one, I think she
01:44:23.659 --> 01:44:25.520
was a lunatic. There's that. So it's not a loss.
01:44:25.739 --> 01:44:28.510
It kind of sounds like that. What did she expect?
01:44:28.510 --> 01:44:31.149
Did she expect somebody who literally
01:44:31.149 --> 01:44:34.270
got out the hospital a while ago has a blood
01:44:34.270 --> 01:44:36.949
pressure of 60 over 30 and is partially
01:44:36.949 --> 01:44:39.930
blind to go have a fight with people who shot
01:44:39.930 --> 01:44:46.390
you in the middle of the game?
01:44:46.390 --> 01:44:48.970
To me this was okay she's insane and my family
01:44:48.970 --> 01:44:53.220
even looked at it as you're insane and yeah.
01:44:53.220 --> 01:44:57.930
So this is interesting here. Jessica says,
01:44:58.050 --> 01:44:59.970
maybe if consequences for sexual assault and
01:44:59.970 --> 01:45:02.970
rape were a guarantee, men would make more of
01:45:02.970 --> 01:45:05.710
an effort to understand women. I know, but how
01:45:05.710 --> 01:45:08.310
do you prove that the guy did it or that the
01:45:08.310 --> 01:45:10.390
woman is not faking it? Well, nothing's a consequence
01:45:10.390 --> 01:45:13.069
for, nothing for any crime is a consequence,
01:45:13.210 --> 01:45:16.649
is a guaranteed consequence, right?
01:45:16.649 --> 01:45:18.550
It's saying if there were, if
01:45:18.550 --> 01:45:20.770
it was guaranteed that you'd be, there'd be a
01:45:20.770 --> 01:45:23.210
consequence for robbing a bank or whatever.
01:45:23.210 --> 01:45:26.840
But there isn't. I think most college-aged
01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:30.460
men don't think there will be consequences. You
01:45:30.460 --> 01:45:32.520
know what I got to tell you? Knowledge is the
01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:35.380
issue. I got to say, I think maybe there's a
01:45:35.380 --> 01:45:37.859
point here that's more about, honestly,
01:45:38.020 --> 01:45:40.720
your brain's not really fully formed until you're
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:44.079
about 25. You don't really have a sense of consequence
01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:48.199
in general when you're that age, right?
01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:51.779
That's why. Just give me an example
01:45:51.779 --> 01:45:55.039
not sexual at all. I locked myself out of my dorm
01:45:55.039 --> 01:45:57.939
room once. My dorm room was on the 10th floor
01:45:57.939 --> 01:46:02.180
of John Jay Hall. I was not in the mood to go
01:46:02.180 --> 01:46:05.060
and to the housing office and wait two hours
01:46:05.060 --> 01:46:08.800
to get a spare key. So I went to the bathroom
01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:13.020
and I walked on the outside of the building on
01:46:13.020 --> 01:46:16.760
a ledge that was about a foot wide. And I knew
01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:18.960
my window was open and crawled through the window
01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:22.500
of my dorm. I would do that today. I'm an idiot.
01:46:22.819 --> 01:46:26.100
Okay. I was, but I was an idiot at, I
01:46:26.100 --> 01:46:30.039
was really an idiot at 19. And you're more,
01:46:30.079 --> 01:46:31.819
you don't consider the consequences.
01:46:31.979 --> 01:46:34.800
Now, if I was going to do that, I'd be far
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:38.819
more, do I want to do this? Maybe I would.
01:46:39.140 --> 01:46:42.000
Maybe I would. But the point is, but the point
01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:45.109
is. I didn't even give it much thought. I'm
01:46:45.229 --> 01:46:48.569
yeah, what the fuck? That's the point,
01:46:48.609 --> 01:46:50.750
right? And it's you do a lot of shit like
01:46:50.750 --> 01:46:53.170
that. I walked on the subway
01:46:53.170 --> 01:46:55.949
tracks, on active subway tracks, did all sorts
01:46:55.949 --> 01:47:00.409
of stupid shit. I drove 120 miles an hour.
01:47:00.409 --> 01:47:02.789
I did shit because you're fucking young.
01:47:03.050 --> 01:47:07.350
And so it's I think it's sort of
01:47:07.350 --> 01:47:11.569
asking 18, 19, 20 year olds to be responsible
01:47:11.569 --> 01:47:14.829
is, it's kind of good luck.
01:47:14.829 --> 01:47:17.930
That'd be nice. Good luck. Are you serious? Accidentally
01:47:17.930 --> 01:47:21.090
did not be rapist. Well not to be raped should
01:47:21.090 --> 01:47:23.829
not be rapist. That's easy.
01:47:23.829 --> 01:47:29.850
When that's easy. Honestly. And yeah. Yeah.
01:47:29.850 --> 01:47:31.850
I think the problem with it.
01:47:31.850 --> 01:47:35.050
I'm 63 years old and when I was 18 I knew I knew
01:47:35.050 --> 01:47:37.689
if a girl was out of it that
01:47:37.689 --> 01:47:41.149
the only thing to do was to put a blanket
01:47:41.149 --> 01:47:43.670
on her and leave, right? I knew that. The problem
01:47:43.670 --> 01:47:45.670
is straightforward and it's a human issue. It's
01:47:45.670 --> 01:47:48.569
not even just a man issue. Women just so happen
01:47:48.569 --> 01:47:50.470
to have the unfortunate distinction of having
01:47:50.470 --> 01:47:53.010
a resource that men don't have access to without
01:47:53.010 --> 01:47:58.000
dealing with the women. And just like oil in the
01:47:58.000 --> 01:47:59.720
Middle East was oh, you have the misfortune
01:47:59.720 --> 01:48:03.479
of being born on a country that
01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:05.920
has oil and that the United States kind of wants
01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:08.779
to get access to. Not everybody is going to be
01:48:08.779 --> 01:48:12.560
the most moral, honest, ethical in dealing with
01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:14.220
women and trying to get that particular resource
01:48:14.220 --> 01:48:16.579
any more than the U.S. is in trying to get the
01:48:16.579 --> 01:48:19.659
resources from Iran, Venezuela or Iraq. Meaning
01:48:19.659 --> 01:48:21.340
it's a human issue. It's not just a man. It's
01:48:21.340 --> 01:48:23.300
just a human issue. Women do something similar
01:48:23.300 --> 01:48:25.979
in regards to going after men sometimes. Specifically
01:48:25.979 --> 01:48:28.520
in this case. And her point is, how do we get
01:48:28.520 --> 01:48:31.119
men to be decent human beings to not do this?
01:48:31.989 --> 01:48:34.909
Part of it is, it's how they're raised.
01:48:35.149 --> 01:48:38.899
It's about, certainly it's frustrating.
01:48:39.020 --> 01:48:40.859
I would really like, the thing is, there's
01:48:40.859 --> 01:48:46.060
no, okay, so sex 99% of the time, 99.999%
01:48:46.060 --> 01:48:47.899
of the time happens behind closed doors, right?
01:48:48.140 --> 01:48:51.359
So there's no witness by definition. There's
01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:55.640
no camera most of the time, right? So. It's kind
01:48:55.640 --> 01:48:58.319
of so anything that happens, especially
01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:01.359
it often involves people use alcohol to loosen
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:03.680
themselves up so that they can get brave enough
01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:08.539
to have sex or to ask for sex. And the contradiction
01:49:08.539 --> 01:49:11.479
of having men to be hunters while simultaneously
01:49:11.479 --> 01:49:16.020
telling them at times, stop hunting. Right. This
01:49:16.020 --> 01:49:19.319
is not an excuse, by the way. I'm not trying
01:49:19.319 --> 01:49:21.300
to craft an excuse. It's just kind of a
01:49:21.300 --> 01:49:23.300
problem that you don't know how, I don't know
01:49:23.300 --> 01:49:26.340
how you solve it. But that's a human problem.
01:49:27.159 --> 01:49:29.460
That's a problem of humanity in general. How
01:49:29.460 --> 01:49:31.220
do you make moral people? How do you make ethical
01:49:31.220 --> 01:49:33.039
people? How do you make people not do shit that's
01:49:33.039 --> 01:49:36.500
protestably violent or illegal? That's
01:49:36.500 --> 01:49:38.800
true with government. That's true with individuals.
01:49:39.100 --> 01:49:41.100
That's true across the board. What's crazy is
01:49:41.100 --> 01:49:44.159
we all as a society agree from a very early age
01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:46.079
that rape is one of the absolute worst things
01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:49.859
that a human being can do to one another. And
01:49:49.859 --> 01:49:53.380
yet, so many people do it. There's not
01:49:53.380 --> 01:49:56.399
a lot of crimes that we have broad agreement
01:49:56.399 --> 01:49:59.899
are really bad and that, yet lots of people
01:49:59.899 --> 01:50:03.739
do, except rape is one of them.
01:50:03.779 --> 01:50:06.659
We broadly agree murder is wrong, and most
01:50:06.659 --> 01:50:10.539
of us don't do it. Well,
01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:12.359
the majority of humanity, I don't think, does
01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:16.180
it. Right. Right. No, I think most people just
01:50:16.180 --> 01:50:20.430
want to be decent people. But it's an intimate
01:50:20.430 --> 01:50:24.340
crime. And it's a crime specific to the
01:50:24.380 --> 01:50:26.640
individuals in this case. I guess you
01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:28.960
can have gang rapes, of course. But in this case...
01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:32.899
As in this case. As in this case. But oftentimes,
01:50:33.060 --> 01:50:36.260
as you point out, it's silent. It's independent.
01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:39.909
And that's kind of a... So with that, you have
01:50:39.909 --> 01:50:43.789
no witnesses. You have... Yeah. It's...
01:50:43.789 --> 01:50:46.510
So it's... The problem is, it's... We set up
01:50:46.510 --> 01:50:50.090
the... We set up... Our culture sets up a situation
01:50:50.090 --> 01:50:53.140
where it's going to keep happening. And there's
01:50:53.140 --> 01:50:56.479
no way really to hold anyone accountable in a
01:50:56.479 --> 01:51:00.319
reliable way after it happens. That's the issue.
01:51:00.579 --> 01:51:03.819
So that's why it's an ongoing problem. Videotape
01:51:03.819 --> 01:51:07.689
all six? Maybe. Yeah. Look, remember,
01:51:07.810 --> 01:51:10.069
do you remember the Antioch College rules?
01:51:10.069 --> 01:51:13.170
Where I remember one of my early cartoons was
01:51:13.170 --> 01:51:15.609
about this, but it was sort of
01:51:15.609 --> 01:51:18.949
now at this time, I would like to gently
01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:22.859
stroke in a counterclockwise manner your right
01:51:22.859 --> 01:51:27.199
knuckle of your, of the, of one of your
01:51:27.199 --> 01:51:31.220
fingers if is that acceptable? Yes I hereby consent
01:51:31.220 --> 01:51:34.720
to that at this time. No more. Please initial. Yes.
01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:38.039
Yes. Please sign here. We have to call
01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:41.600
a notary and use it and you every single step
01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:44.180
of a sexual encounter was supposed to be
01:51:44.180 --> 01:51:48.079
specifically verbally consented to. Of
01:51:48.079 --> 01:51:50.390
course that's just not how. Romance,
01:51:50.810 --> 01:51:53.350
seduction, it doesn't work that way.
01:51:53.369 --> 01:51:55.310
Who the hell wants to have sex like that? Yeah,
01:51:55.409 --> 01:51:57.909
I cut off my dick first. Are you kidding?
01:51:58.390 --> 01:52:02.869
Approved. Yeah, that's not the way it works.
01:52:04.050 --> 01:52:07.550
No, it's just not reality. So it turns out that
01:52:07.550 --> 01:52:11.850
the pilot on the Israel-bound flight, according
01:52:11.850 --> 01:52:14.630
to Netanyahu, so who knows if this is true, but
01:52:14.630 --> 01:52:20.539
apparently the co-pilot stabbed the pilot. I
01:52:20.539 --> 01:52:23.430
don't know if that's true. No, no, that is what
01:52:23.430 --> 01:52:27.850
is being... Oh, wow. So remember Christa Pike,
01:52:28.109 --> 01:52:31.590
the woman who would be executed in Tennessee?
01:52:31.909 --> 01:52:37.090
This is a big death penalty case. Anyway, a court
01:52:37.090 --> 01:52:40.250
has one hour before she was supposed to be executed,
01:52:40.569 --> 01:52:45.949
she got a stay from the court. Did she? Can you
01:52:45.949 --> 01:52:48.750
imagine the stress? Can you imagine the stress
01:52:48.750 --> 01:52:51.039
of that? Yeah, she was going to be the first
01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:55.699
woman executed in Tennessee in 200 years. So
01:52:55.699 --> 01:53:03.159
she lured a friend. She was 18 years old. She
01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:06.800
and a friend lured a third friend out into the
01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:12.880
woods and basically stabbed their friend to death
01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:16.279
for fun. How do we get women to stop luring other
01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:22.430
women and stabbing them? It does remind me of
01:53:22.430 --> 01:53:25.250
the Slenderman case. It reminds me of the Heavenly
01:53:25.250 --> 01:53:28.720
Creatures case in Australia. Or New Zealand.
01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:34.850
How do we get women to stop doing this? Yeah,
01:53:34.930 --> 01:53:39.649
such an ongoing problem. Such a hard problem.
01:53:39.970 --> 01:53:41.970
All right, well, we have to talk about ICE a
01:53:41.970 --> 01:53:44.250
little bit. So ICE is going to hire another 5,000
01:53:44.250 --> 01:53:46.770
people. I think that's just worth mentioning.
01:53:47.050 --> 01:53:49.470
I thought there were 500 people recently. Yeah,
01:53:49.470 --> 01:53:52.029
they were. Now they're going to hire more. Maybe
01:53:52.029 --> 01:53:53.569
they'll hire back the people that they fired.
01:53:54.569 --> 01:53:58.130
And the Supreme Court has issued an injunction
01:53:58.130 --> 01:54:01.840
allowing Trump to continue to send people to
01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:03.479
deport people to countries that they have nothing
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:05.260
to do with, not the countries of their origin.
01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:08.859
I have a feeling they'll probably allow him to
01:54:08.859 --> 01:54:11.199
continue doing it on a permanent basis. The president
01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:15.220
has wide latitude. He does. I'm really interested
01:54:15.220 --> 01:54:24.279
in the question about the tax form, though. Oh,
01:54:24.340 --> 01:54:27.380
citizenship, yeah. Yeah, so basically it seems
01:54:27.380 --> 01:54:31.479
pretty innocent, right, at face value. Currently,
01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:34.359
Form 1040 does not care if you're a citizen or
01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:36.479
not or a legal resident. They just want to collect
01:54:36.479 --> 01:54:38.359
your taxes. And if you don't have a Social Security
01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:41.699
number, they don't care. The IRS just wants you
01:54:41.699 --> 01:54:45.960
to pay your taxes and whatever. So this would
01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:48.699
be a change. And it turns out that there's kind
01:54:48.699 --> 01:54:52.279
of two really sinister motives by the Trump administration.
01:54:52.899 --> 01:54:55.619
First of all, they're trying to scare legal immigrants
01:54:55.619 --> 01:54:58.260
into not filing their taxes, which would mean
01:54:58.260 --> 01:55:00.239
that they wouldn't qualify for things like the
01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:03.760
earned income, the earned tax credit. So in some
01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:06.500
cases you might owe, you might have to
01:55:06.500 --> 01:55:08.659
pay two hundred dollars but you would get a net
01:55:08.659 --> 01:55:11.439
one thousand dollars so you get, sorry, you eight
01:55:11.439 --> 01:55:14.319
hundred dollars back. They wouldn't get that because
01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:16.539
they'd be they're scared of filling
01:55:16.539 --> 01:55:18.939
out that group, that form so they'll drop out
01:55:18.939 --> 01:55:21.810
of the tax system and in other cases. It would
01:55:21.810 --> 01:55:24.470
turn people who are either undocumented workers
01:55:24.470 --> 01:55:28.850
or maybe not undocumented into tax evaders, which
01:55:28.850 --> 01:55:31.550
would then allow the administration to put them
01:55:31.550 --> 01:55:37.199
in prison. Yeah. Because obviously,
01:55:37.260 --> 01:55:41.000
if you have any question about your status, you're
01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:43.239
not going to get that. You may not get those
01:55:43.239 --> 01:55:46.720
taxes. If you're very concerned, especially
01:55:46.720 --> 01:55:48.560
if you're concerned that, well, if I put my address
01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:50.659
and everything else. ICE can just show up at
01:55:50.659 --> 01:55:54.279
my house and take me away. Yeah, it's sinister.
01:55:57.479 --> 01:56:01.420
See, this is one of those things where
01:56:01.420 --> 01:56:03.859
the government should not want to put that on
01:56:03.859 --> 01:56:06.630
the form. Under normal circumstances,
01:56:06.810 --> 01:56:09.350
for good sense reasons, you want people to file
01:56:09.350 --> 01:56:11.430
their taxes, in which case you don't want them
01:56:11.430 --> 01:56:13.970
to have any disincentive of it. It's kind of
01:56:13.970 --> 01:56:15.829
like college, where it's the amount of money
01:56:15.829 --> 01:56:17.310
that you pay for college is a disincentive to
01:56:17.310 --> 01:56:19.069
go to college, even though you want as many people
01:56:19.069 --> 01:56:21.430
to go to college as possible. For this kind of
01:56:21.430 --> 01:56:24.300
world economy that we have at our disposal. No,
01:56:24.399 --> 01:56:25.720
it's a disincentive. And yeah, you're right,
01:56:25.779 --> 01:56:28.369
it's sinister. Again, do you think any
01:56:28.369 --> 01:56:29.750
of this stuff is going to last beyond Trump?
01:56:30.270 --> 01:56:33.250
Well, God, I'm so glad you mentioned that. I'm
01:56:33.250 --> 01:56:36.229
obsessed with that question. I think most of
01:56:36.229 --> 01:56:38.369
it will. A lot of it will. Let's put
01:56:38.369 --> 01:56:40.310
it this way. We're not going to get a Charles
01:56:40.310 --> 01:56:42.789
de Gaulle situation where the next president
01:56:42.789 --> 01:56:44.670
comes in and signs an executive order that says
01:56:44.670 --> 01:56:47.130
all executive orders issued for the last four
01:56:47.130 --> 01:56:50.300
years are invalid by definition. You could, but
01:56:50.300 --> 01:56:51.840
they're not going to do that. No, I think they're
01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:53.300
going to keep a lot of this shit. We
01:56:53.300 --> 01:56:56.300
know from history that Democratic presidents
01:56:56.300 --> 01:56:59.260
tend to keep Republican, a lot of stuff that
01:56:59.260 --> 01:57:03.539
Republican predecessors did. Not all, but a lot.
01:57:03.739 --> 01:57:06.600
And certainly the big important things. That
01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:08.619
citizenship question, it's not going
01:57:08.619 --> 01:57:10.960
to go away because here's the thing. Let's say
01:57:10.960 --> 01:57:13.739
you're President Newsom, or President
01:57:13.739 --> 01:57:16.010
Buttigieg. It's oh, we should get rid of
01:57:16.010 --> 01:57:18.869
that. That was a really gross Trump thing. It's
01:57:18.869 --> 01:57:22.289
but Mr. President, the Republicans are
01:57:22.289 --> 01:57:24.989
then going to characterize you as weak on illegal
01:57:24.989 --> 01:57:27.770
immigration. You don't want that. We're already
01:57:27.770 --> 01:57:29.649
a little bit down in the polls. You can't afford
01:57:29.649 --> 01:57:31.770
that. Yeah, you're right. Just let it stay on.
01:57:32.890 --> 01:57:35.569
That's the conversation they always have. The
01:57:35.569 --> 01:57:39.409
Sonali wing of the Democratic Party is going
01:57:39.409 --> 01:57:42.850
to scream bloody murder to get this thing off
01:57:42.850 --> 01:57:46.350
the form. Well, they should. And they are. I
01:57:46.350 --> 01:57:47.550
think they are. Look at what Joe Biden
01:57:47.550 --> 01:57:50.109
did when Trump got in office. Oh, we're going
01:57:50.109 --> 01:57:52.869
to open the border. He did it only because Donald
01:57:52.869 --> 01:57:55.170
Trump had such a border policy that he wanted
01:57:55.170 --> 01:57:57.350
to show that he's the opposite of Trump. He's
01:57:57.350 --> 01:57:58.970
different than Trump. So the first thing they
01:57:58.970 --> 01:58:01.350
did was remove some of the provisions that Donald
01:58:01.350 --> 01:58:03.850
Trump had around immigration and whatnot. Now,
01:58:03.890 --> 01:58:05.390
whether he should remove them or not is secondary
01:58:05.390 --> 01:58:07.590
to the point that he did it is the point that
01:58:07.590 --> 01:58:09.590
I'm trying to make. There are certain issues,
01:58:09.770 --> 01:58:11.689
especially things that don't cost Democrats money
01:58:11.689 --> 01:58:15.579
or things that don't go against their funders.
01:58:15.619 --> 01:58:19.399
They're bribers. But they'll do it. This will
01:58:19.399 --> 01:58:21.640
cost the Treasury. Yeah, well, it will
01:58:21.640 --> 01:58:24.479
put some money into the Treasury's pocket a little
01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:27.039
bit. A drop in the bucket, I would imagine.
01:58:27.420 --> 01:58:29.659
Yeah, but it's not raising taxes on the rich.
01:58:29.779 --> 01:58:32.760
It's not Medicare for All. It's not any of these
01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:37.300
things that will be lifts. This is remove this
01:58:37.300 --> 01:58:40.380
thing off the thing. Hey, am I not great for
01:58:40.380 --> 01:58:44.289
doing this on my illegal? But we can still stipulate
01:58:44.289 --> 01:58:47.250
the odds of this going, continuing,
01:58:47.489 --> 01:58:50.069
going away under a Democratic administration
01:58:50.069 --> 01:58:54.989
are not 100%, right? True. Yes. Agreed. No, I
01:58:54.989 --> 01:58:56.689
agree with you. They keep a lot of that stuff,
01:58:56.829 --> 01:59:01.350
like the Obama stuff, the taxes, the grotesque
01:59:01.350 --> 01:59:04.069
tax cuts. And Democrats called them everything
01:59:04.069 --> 01:59:06.069
but a child of God, and Obama kept 80%.
01:59:06.069 --> 01:59:10.229
So, yeah, they'll keep them, most of it. This
01:59:10.229 --> 01:59:12.909
is a good question for Robby. Robby, how do
01:59:12.909 --> 01:59:14.529
you support guns which get to be dangerous in
01:59:14.529 --> 01:59:17.920
the wrong hands, but not drugs? That's easy because
01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:20.460
guns prevent the government from getting a monopoly
01:59:20.460 --> 01:59:24.409
on force. Alcohol doesn't do that. Drugs don't
01:59:24.409 --> 01:59:27.470
do that. No, but with guns, for example, let's
01:59:27.470 --> 01:59:33.779
take ICE, for example. If some goon kicks in
01:59:33.779 --> 01:59:37.060
my door, I will send him to be Jesus. I will
01:59:37.060 --> 01:59:41.760
shoot him. To take that collectively. If a government
01:59:41.760 --> 01:59:44.939
truly becomes tyrannical, for example
01:59:44.939 --> 01:59:46.859
how Black Lives Matter how they were saying
01:59:46.859 --> 01:59:49.399
that that the government is systemically racist
01:59:49.399 --> 01:59:51.739
that they are coming after Black people then
01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:54.180
the absolute worst thing that you could ever
01:59:54.180 --> 01:59:56.520
encourage Black people to do and Black pastors
01:59:56.520 --> 01:59:58.279
encourage Black people to do this is turn in
01:59:58.279 --> 02:00:00.800
your guns because at that point you are giving
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:03.140
the state that you believe is oppressive a monopoly
02:00:03.140 --> 02:00:06.659
on force. The entire point of the Second Amendment
02:00:07.470 --> 02:00:09.789
is to hunt the two-legged monsters who are coming
02:00:09.789 --> 02:00:12.189
after you whether they're in a uniform or out.
02:00:12.189 --> 02:00:15.220
That's the difference. That's the distinction.
02:00:15.220 --> 02:00:19.279
One destroys your agency. One that's not really
02:00:19.279 --> 02:00:22.699
addressing the question. The question is how many
02:00:22.699 --> 02:00:25.319
people have gun violence versus drug violence.
02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.840
Yeah that depends on how you characterize
02:00:27.840 --> 02:00:29.819
it. I talk about self-defense and accidents or
02:00:29.819 --> 02:00:32.670
just murder because a lot of times
02:00:32.670 --> 02:00:35.170
with homicide that also that factors in. Well I think
02:00:35.170 --> 02:00:36.750
you have to count accidents and I think you have
02:00:36.750 --> 02:00:40.329
to count non-self-defense homicides.
02:00:40.689 --> 02:00:43.229
Yeah. We know that 70,000 Americans
02:00:43.229 --> 02:00:47.390
a year die every year from illegal drugs. We
02:00:47.390 --> 02:00:49.510
don't know. That is a factor in people
02:00:49.510 --> 02:00:51.800
who are using illegal drugs. Drugs kill a lot
02:00:51.800 --> 02:00:53.699
of people. Booze kills a lot of people. Guns
02:00:53.699 --> 02:00:57.020
kill a lot of people. But guns kill less, though.
02:00:57.060 --> 02:00:59.159
The difference is, though, is that Mao Zedong,
02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:01.420
I don't have much use for the guy, but he got
02:01:01.420 --> 02:01:03.859
this right. When he said that political power
02:01:03.859 --> 02:01:07.199
grows out of the barrel of a rifle. He's right. There's
02:01:07.199 --> 02:01:08.779
a lot of truth in that. Oh, that's totally true.
02:01:08.960 --> 02:01:11.859
And the last thing that you ever want to have
02:01:11.859 --> 02:01:14.699
happen is for a government, any government, to
02:01:14.699 --> 02:01:17.500
have a monopoly on force. Because at that point,
02:01:17.560 --> 02:01:19.720
when they go tyrannical, you have no way of fighting.
02:01:19.720 --> 02:01:21.520
That's not addressing the point. The
02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:24.500
fact that guns can be used to hunt delicious
02:01:24.500 --> 02:01:28.180
squirrels and that they can be used to kill asshole
02:01:28.180 --> 02:01:31.420
invading troops, all those things are great about
02:01:31.420 --> 02:01:35.510
guns. But like if a but, the fact
02:01:35.510 --> 02:01:41.270
is guns also are dangerous. So
02:01:41.270 --> 02:01:45.189
do the dangers justify? It's sort of
02:01:45.189 --> 02:01:48.989
saying like alcohol. In some cases, alcohol is
02:01:48.989 --> 02:01:50.909
good for you. Right. There's some studies
02:01:50.909 --> 02:01:53.069
that have shown that it reduces your chances
02:01:53.069 --> 02:01:57.130
of heart disease. But
02:01:57.130 --> 02:02:00.630
overall, it has a net negative. Nicotine
02:02:00.630 --> 02:02:03.189
can cause you to lose weight, which is great.
02:02:03.390 --> 02:02:06.970
But overall, it's bad for you. So the question
02:02:06.970 --> 02:02:10.090
is, are guns a net benefit or a net positive?
02:02:10.939 --> 02:02:14.560
They are a net benefit and they are a net positive
02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:17.260
because they keep the government from getting
02:02:17.260 --> 02:02:19.899
a monopoly on force. Alcohol and drugs do not
02:02:19.899 --> 02:02:23.029
do that. Now, one of the things. I think one
02:02:23.029 --> 02:02:25.770
of the reasons why we don't have rioting in the
02:02:25.770 --> 02:02:27.369
streets in this country right now is because
02:02:27.369 --> 02:02:29.670
too many of the, too much of the population is
02:02:29.670 --> 02:02:32.050
on depressants rather than form of a pill or
02:02:32.050 --> 02:02:35.909
because of alcohol. I think that just factors
02:02:35.909 --> 02:02:38.229
into it. I don't know. This country is, we live
02:02:38.229 --> 02:02:40.569
in a fascist government and all the gun
02:02:40.569 --> 02:02:42.470
owners aren't doing shit about it, right? That's
02:02:42.470 --> 02:02:45.840
my point. So what are you guys doing? You're
02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:49.020
not defending us. From who? From what? From our
02:02:49.020 --> 02:02:52.949
fascist government. Well, there are some people
02:02:52.949 --> 02:02:55.029
who tried to – they're called the Oath Keepers,
02:02:55.029 --> 02:02:56.689
and I'm pretty sure that the two people here
02:02:56.689 --> 02:02:59.149
to my left wanted to put them on a cross because
02:02:59.149 --> 02:03:03.010
they took their guns to resist, in my opinion,
02:03:03.090 --> 02:03:06.789
they're dead wrong, a fascist takeover of the
02:03:06.789 --> 02:03:10.649
state. Listen, just because you have guns does
02:03:10.649 --> 02:03:12.649
not mean – Wait a minute. Oath Keepers were involved
02:03:12.649 --> 02:03:15.050
in trying to have a fascist takeover of the state,
02:03:15.149 --> 02:03:17.899
meaning when they were looking at Trump, waiting
02:03:17.899 --> 02:03:20.060
for Trump to give the heads up for them to get
02:03:20.060 --> 02:03:22.199
their guns and then come to what they weren't
02:03:22.199 --> 02:03:25.020
doing that for me they weren't doing they weren't
02:03:25.020 --> 02:03:28.119
doing that for even right wing
02:03:28.119 --> 02:03:30.079
right-wingers they were doing it for a fascist
02:03:30.079 --> 02:03:33.039
takeover. Yeah and that's my and that's my whole
02:03:33.039 --> 02:03:35.560
point so if you don't want if you don't want
02:03:35.560 --> 02:03:38.560
a bunch of fascists to take over then the last
02:03:38.560 --> 02:03:42.539
thing that you ever have they had guns in order
02:03:42.539 --> 02:03:45.079
to do that. How many millions of Americans
02:03:47.630 --> 02:03:50.810
now let me put you this way if y'all are
02:03:50.810 --> 02:03:52.350
right and the government if the government is
02:03:52.350 --> 02:03:55.180
fascist and by the way I don't know if we're
02:03:55.180 --> 02:03:56.880
fascists we're definitely an oligarchy
02:03:56.880 --> 02:04:00.220
we're well on our way I would submit to you the
02:04:00.220 --> 02:04:02.659
only reason that we are not full-throated goose-stepping
02:04:02.659 --> 02:04:05.800
in Nazi Germany style is because so
02:04:05.800 --> 02:04:09.119
much of the American populace has guns. That's
02:04:09.819 --> 02:04:13.109
hard to say. I don't buy that, Robby. I don't know.
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But can you disprove it? I can't prove it. I'll
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disprove it in one way. Tons of the German
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population had, civilian population had guns
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before 1933. And it's not true that Nazi Germany
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took them away. It's not true. There's all these
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internet tropes about how
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the Nazis and the communists took away guns.
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They didn't. People in Germany had guns for hunting.
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They had tons of them. And they had pistols and
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rifles. Shit, that's what most Americans have
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is pistols and rifles. But you know what the
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German population also had? They also had a history
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of an unequal treaty called the Treaty of Versailles
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that your countrymen pushed on them. If you had
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not had a Treaty of Versailles, Nazi Germany
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would have never risen. Okay, what does that
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have to do with the gun? Well, no, of course
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it does. Because if you think that your country
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is being victimized, and if you're on your knees,
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and nationalism is a very strong force, then
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having those gun owners, having a population
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of right-wing is going to be something you want
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to have. Those Germans were, the Nazis were,
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they were just like fucking Netanyahu with their
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line of bullshit. The Germans never
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paid. They never paid the reparations. They didn't
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pay. Sure they did. That's why the Jewish market,
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of course they did. They occupied Germany at
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a certain point to force them to pay. No, they
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didn't. No, but the Germans did. The reason why
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the Reichsmark was worth nothing is because they
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inflated the money supply to the point where
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they destroyed it. In order to pay the French
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with devalued money. But they paid them, that's
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the point. Yeah, but not really. Of course they
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did. They paid them with worthless cash. Congratulations,
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you got swindled. They occupied Germany in order
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to get the money. No, they didn't. When did they
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occupy Germany? No, they didn't. France never
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occupied Germany? No, they didn't. Look it up.
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Believe me, they didn't. They did not. They could
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have. The French military had every legal right
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to go in under the Treaty of Versailles if there
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was a breach, for example, when the Saar
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Valley was remilitarized by the Germans under
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Nazism, but they didn't. Because the Germans
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had rifles. Because the French pussed out. Well,
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the French always puss out. Let's be
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honest. They lost the war to Haiti, for
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God's sake. Right here. Yes. France, along with
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Belgium, occupied Germany's industrial Ruhr
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region from January 1923 to August 1926, specifically
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to force payment for the World War I reparations.
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Yep. They occupied the Rhineland. The Ruhr Valley,
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right? Germany? Yeah. Okay, I forgot about that
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episode. They occupied part of it. It's a little
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border region, right? It's still Germany. Russia
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is talking about going to nuclear war with Kaliningrad.
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They take this shit seriously. And to ask why
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the Germans had rifles is because of crap like
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this. It's just how Yamamoto... No, they didn't
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have rifles because they wanted to eat rabbits.
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Okay that's where they
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had, right they like to hunt. Okay Ted you're
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a student of history. What did Yamamoto say? What
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would happen if the Japanese army invaded the
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American mainland? I don't even know. Wake up a
02:07:25.529 --> 02:07:27.789
sleeping giant. He said there would be a
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there would be a rifleman behind every blade of grass
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and tree. Which is kind of true. Okay, but the
02:07:33.579 --> 02:07:35.340
fact is that in the United States, we've been
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occupied by our own government. I agree. And
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it's because the propaganda is so freaking strong.
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Why is that? It's because our population is not
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educated. Our population is apathetic. Our population
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is stoned. And disorganized. And our population
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is disorganized. If you're self-indulging yourself,
02:07:51.890 --> 02:07:54.449
you're dropping your IQ by 15 points every single
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year because you just want to feel good. Then
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you're going to look at these people and say,
02:07:58.789 --> 02:08:00.890
oh, we're going to organize around these leaders
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and these colleges and they're all just stone
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frat boys. Give me a freaking break. I don't
02:08:06.090 --> 02:08:07.930
think I dropped my IQ for smoking pot, to be
02:08:07.930 --> 02:08:11.170
honest. I don't think that's true. I don't know.
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I think it's individualist. I think it's propaganda.
02:08:15.390 --> 02:08:17.909
I think it's. It's an American ethos with this
02:08:17.909 --> 02:08:19.949
idea of we're rugged individualists. We're all
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John Waynes. If anything happens, we're singular,
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individual, etc. Whereas in Europe, they look
02:08:26.229 --> 02:08:29.270
at this stuff as more of a group entity. Meaning
02:08:29.270 --> 02:08:30.989
Spain looks at the homeless thing as a group
02:08:30.989 --> 02:08:33.409
issue, a government issue. France looks at their
02:08:33.409 --> 02:08:35.710
issues as a government issue. We don't look at
02:08:35.710 --> 02:08:37.590
it that way. We look at it as we are individuals.
02:08:37.909 --> 02:08:40.630
Anything that happens to us happens to us singularly,
02:08:40.630 --> 02:08:42.850
not as a country, not as a group. We
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have to pay all gas prices now. But even that
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I would wager somewhat individually. I think
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it's that if I had to put it on anything.
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Tell me I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Listen, at
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the end of the day, the question was, why do
02:08:56.890 --> 02:08:59.810
I support gun ownership and oppose drugs and
02:08:59.810 --> 02:09:01.409
alcohol the way that I do? It's because one has
02:09:01.409 --> 02:09:07.079
a value and one doesn't. Okay, that's fair. Although
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I do think that, having been to countries
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where you can't buy booze like Pakistan. It sucks.
02:09:14.420 --> 02:09:18.649
It sucks, yeah. It sucks. Yeah, things are uptight.
02:09:18.789 --> 02:09:22.069
Everyone's got a stick up their ass. Everyone's
02:09:22.069 --> 02:09:26.050
nervous all the time. No one's ever chill. All
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right, guys, let's do this one last comment.
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Deep Green, thanks for the buck. Ask yourself
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why the CIA pushed LSD to induce a state lassitude
02:09:39.649 --> 02:09:42.770
on the masses and are against a collective revolution
02:09:42.770 --> 02:09:45.750
armed with the spirit to fight back and knowledgeable.
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Yes. Agreed. I want to answer John Doe's question
02:09:52.380 --> 02:09:54.560
real quick before we pull off. So his question
02:09:54.560 --> 02:09:56.920
is, Robby, isn't a fascist action of killing
02:09:56.920 --> 02:09:59.600
all drug dealers a contradiction with wanting
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the citizens to have guns to avoid a fascist
02:10:01.560 --> 02:10:03.720
government? Let me make this very clear. I said
02:10:03.720 --> 02:10:06.399
if I was the dictator of the country, there would
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be... You'd be the totalitarianism. I would be
02:10:11.359 --> 02:10:15.680
the totalitarianism. I know, right? So, listen.
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I am not of the belief that unlimited freedom
02:10:19.979 --> 02:10:23.880
is a good thing. Well, there is no such thing
02:10:23.880 --> 02:10:26.359
as unlimited freedom. No, it's impossible. But
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that's the argument that they make. It's
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well, what would you do? For example, I don't
02:10:30.979 --> 02:10:32.359
think people have the right to destroy themselves.
02:10:32.939 --> 02:10:39.260
If you're going through San Diego and you see
02:10:39.260 --> 02:10:42.060
all these people who are homeless stoned out
02:10:42.060 --> 02:10:45.060
of their minds on the street, literally rotting
02:10:45.060 --> 02:10:48.060
away. They don't have the right to be there.
02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:50.079
What you should do, and this is what I would
02:10:50.079 --> 02:10:52.619
do, I would get those people up. I would get
02:10:52.619 --> 02:10:54.680
them into rehab. I would do everything I possibly
02:10:54.680 --> 02:10:57.100
could under my power to get them clean, get their
02:10:57.100 --> 02:10:59.579
life back. And the people who are selling that
02:10:59.579 --> 02:11:01.460
poison, I would put their brains on a freaking
02:11:01.460 --> 02:11:07.180
wall. There is no freedom in this equation. And
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with that, it seems like a nice, uplifting place
02:11:12.180 --> 02:11:14.659
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