Midnight Meat Train (2008) – Clive Barker’s Lost Horror Gem

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You can run, but you can't hide from the Class
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Hard Cast. Hunting you from the Emerald Isle, your host
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Hi, welcome back everybody to another episode of Class Horror Cast.
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I'm one of your hosts, Aaron, and I'm joined by
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my co host Thomas as I like to call him.
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He doesn't like that, so I'll allow him to introduce
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himself at all his coolast nicknames.
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I'm Tom kat aka Tom Thompson though Raptilian. You can
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find out my music on all music platforms. I'm working
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on a new album. I just gotta finish recording like
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four songs and essentially it's done, and it's gonna be
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a little different but still kind of the same subject
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matter but a little different if you if you're easily offended,
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I don't know, if you're.
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Like my music, probably won't like any of them. Pushing
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just ahead of the.
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Name of the game. Yes, so you want to talk
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about something?
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Yeah, Actually, so before we get into we're going to
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talk about in this episode. We just wanted to talk
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for him and I guess about neither of us had
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this conversation yet, so it's not something that's been like
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pre planned about the recent movie Death of a Unicorn,
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which Tom, I let you go first because you've seen
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it before I did.
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Yeah, So, like we had we had movie tickets right
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that like buy one, get one free, whatever some like
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a deal or whatever, and it was done in April,
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so we wanted to go see a movie and it
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was that or Woke White, you know, Snow White, and
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like I heard that was awful. So uh so we're like, oh,
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Chelsea is like that that unicorn movie just came out
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and I was like, let's go see that. That looked fun,
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like I remember seeing the trailer and then so we
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saw it. She thought it was okay, you know, for
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what it was like. She's like, she didn't like it
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too much, but I liked it. For a horror movie
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about a unicorn. I thought that it was fairly good.
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And I like that one like that one bald guy,
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the servant guy.
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He's very good. And I will say, gets his name.
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I used to love Paul Road. Now I can't look
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at him every movies and I'm like, I would just
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want him to die. Yeah, Anthony Carrigan is that guy's name?
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A very good actor and you recognized him instantly because
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he played Victor z As in the Gotham TV show.
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I didn't know that, I know, dude, he was fantastic,
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Wow from Barry. Have you seen Barry?
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I haven't, but I know I know what you're talking about.
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He's like a hit man and it's like his body,
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it's like really his buddies kind of after him. But
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like it's a very funny. Like if you never have
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seen Barry with what's that? Give me a sec. What's
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that guy's name?
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Hin a scary looking dude though, right, oh yeah, what's
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that guy's name?
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That's uh Bill Hatter Hater Hatter Hitter. He's in it,
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Stephen or Yeah, Stephen Root, Anthony Kerrigan, Yeah, he's he's
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gold in that show, Like Barry is actually a very
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good show. Yeah, that's funny, but he's kind of he's
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kind of comical too though. He's like you can play
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that Psycho is the Gotham Show any good?
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Fantastic? Really, dude, it's I guarantee you they get. It
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has like a bit of everything. It's like it's got
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its action, it's got whatever, but it's also got like
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kind of horror elements. The storytelling is really good.
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I don't know if I can convinced the wife to
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watch that, But do you want to watch? You a
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whole series about Batman? Trying to get her to watch Technically.
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It's not, though, that's the good thing. What it's technically
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not about Batman.
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I've been trying to get her to watch Daredevil and
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he was like bored by it, like the news.
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Well, yeah, this is completely different. I didn't think because
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I've watched some of those kind of shows, and I
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was like, like I used to love Arrow. And then
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I was like, I don't know if I can get
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into another show like that, but this is completely different
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than what I was expecting.
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So I like Death of a Unicorn. I thought it
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was like fun and it kept my attention the whole time.
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And I also went, I was I think I was
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pretty high when I went. I did smoke some weed.
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I smoked a joint, so like I was like in
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a good mood and you didn't like it at all.
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Not so for people who don't know, Like I'm assuming
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that everybody's probably gonna listen to the show and I
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will know most of the things we talk about. But
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basically the story is a father daughter duo Elliott and Ridley,
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hit a unicorn with their car and bring it to
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a wilderness retreat of a mega wealthy pharmaceutical CEO. So
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from what I could kind of gather from like half
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watching the movie, was he some sort of like attorney
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lawyer kind of dude, and he's like trying to take over,
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like this guy who's dying.
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And whatever, and yeah, so you fell asleep or no.
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But I was just like, looking at my phone, I
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was like, it's just fucking I was the only person
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in there.
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Wow, that's crazy.
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I was like, Wow, this is absolutely just dreadful. I
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don't know what it was about it. I just couldn't
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fucking I couldn't do it, eh, I just could not
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get into it. I like, like, what did you What
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was it about it that you enjoyed?
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I just I don't know, Like I thought it was
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kind of comical, like the the deaths and the kills
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were kind of funny, you know, for like a for
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a you know, comedy kind of horror about a unicorn
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killing people. I thought that the story for what it
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was like it was decent. I thought it could have
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been a way worse.
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That's how if someone said to you, I have fifteen
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million dollars and this is the movie I'm gonna make,
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what would.
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You say, like if the death of the Unicorn? I
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but like that sounds weird, I guess.
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But if someone said, like, I want to spend fifty
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million dollars on a movie and this is number one
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on my list, I think this is the best idea.
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Oh no, yeah, it's definitely could have been used for
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something else. It is weird that it got approved for
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what it is, but as a whole, like you know,
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I would probably watch it again, Like I.
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Think, Christ, I don't know if I could ever make
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it true that ever again.
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I thought, I don't know, this is the first time
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we've really disagreed on something. But I thought it was
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for what it is, for entertainment purposes, it was an
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enjoyable movie, like it was decently. It was fun for
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what it was and what it was about.
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It had elements that I was like, I could see
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like the bones of a really good movie. But I
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kind of wish it had it went one way or
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the other. Like I've seen people like there's people on
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fucking IMDb before I went like, I'll always just have
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a quick look on like reviews and stuff, but I
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won't spoil it, but I'll just get a general feel
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for like, okare how are people feeling about this? And
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like I've seen people saying things like, you know, it
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won't make anyone's best horror movie list or anything like that,
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but well, for sure, this mixing the social satire of
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Knives Out with monster movie thrilled such as Drastic park
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and Aliens Death of a Unicorn is a gleefully unsubtled
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bit of fun. I'm like, right, I didn't now. I
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could see right how you could tie it to stuff
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like Drastic Parking, but I just wish it had it
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just went one way or the other. I didn't really
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like the way it was like haha, comedy, haha. It's
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supposed to be kind of serious and we're supposed to
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care about the relationships. Now, it's supposed to be scary. Now,
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it's supposed to be kind of gory funny, and I
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just picked one and stick to it because they don't.
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I just felt like they'd done none of those things
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well enough. And then when you've done a bit of
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everything and done none of it well, I was like, wow,
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this just feels like four different movies pretty much. Yeah, yeah,
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I don't know. Like there was parrots, but I was like, okay,
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that's pretty cool, and I like the idea of like
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a scary unicorn. It was something that never really occurred
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to make it.
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Do an episode on my show about unicorns, because there
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is a fair amount of like cryptid stuff about them.
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The other thing I really had an issue with was
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why you so much CGI?
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Please start? Yeah?
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Now, I will say that when it when it came
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to nighttime in the story, the CGI was infinitely better.
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And I think that's because they had like the darkness
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to kind of hide some of maybe the imperfections. But
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when you first start to see them and it's like
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broad daylight, I'm like, wow, that is so jarringly like
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clearly obvious that it's CG.
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I just can't I'm surprised they chose that, But who knows.
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If I watched it again at home, I could be
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a little more critical. Like I just thought, for a
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movie about a unicorn horn, you know, in a horror movie.
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I thought it could have been worse. That's how I
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thought of it.
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Yeah, I just wish, like part of me when they
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were doing the scary parts, like where it was meant
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to be kind of scary and some of the kills,
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I was like, I want that movie just for the
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entire hour forty minutes.
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Well, it's also like there. It's also because some of
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the people that were in it, like I love William
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Poulter or whatever that.
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Yes found though I like, I like Paul Rudd and stuff,
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but like I just found like in this he was
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just like trying really hard funny and I was like, wow,
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you're embarrassing.
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Yeah, I didn't. I'm actually not gonna lie. I didn't
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like Paul Rudd's performance that much, but they like there
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was there's a fair amount of like decent actors and actors. Yeah,
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that is so funny. Like some of the stuff that
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he's been in, especially when he was like younger, and
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he's been able to do like a more serious take
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like he's been in Midnight. Some are midsom which I
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do definitely want to cover. He kind of grew as
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an actor because I mostly think of him as we're
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in the Miller's right, it's going on brows. You know.
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It's a weird face, man.
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He does, right, he does. I was like, is it
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only mean that thinks that?
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Yeah, No, he definitely has a weird face, and he's
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coming up in a war movie soon.
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But yeah, I don't know. So if we get onto
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what we actually came here to talk about, then now
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the opinions could flip again because I'm not sure. Me
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and Tom haven't talked about how either of us feel
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about this movie that we're going to cover, so this
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could change. Now, this could go from Me loving this
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movie and Tom hating us. So I don't know. Yeah,
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but yeah, So today we're hopping aboard the Midnight Metriin
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as we take a deep dive into two thousand and
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eight horror Trigler. Based on a short story by Clive Barker,
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this dark, grizzly and visually striking film was directed by
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Ryu Kitamura. Has gained the cult following over the years
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for its unique mix of gore, psychological horror, and bizarre mystery.
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That it wasn't a major commercial success at the time
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of its release. Midnight Me Train has stood out as
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a prime example of brutality and surreal storytelling that Clive
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Barker has become known for.
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My wife but I was like, we're gonna watch Midnight
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Me Train, and I'm like, she's like, I don't want
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to watch that. I'm like, Bradley Cooper's in it, Like
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it's not that bad at least, it's not like She's
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like that last one that you made me watch was
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horrible and I was like, the.
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Last broadcast, no, no.
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No, what we just covered kness fault, Like that was awful.
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I was like it was fun, you know, it's like
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nostalgic to me and Aaron, so we both like it.
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And she was like, no, it was like the acting
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was trash. It looked like trash. It just poorly written,
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so rude, just shit around it. I know she enjoyed
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this a little more, but she's like, I don't want
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to watch. It's just the name, how.
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Like, yeah, yeah, a very weird choice of name as well.
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because obviously like.
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Barker's homosexual, so yeah, I didn't know that is he
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really They.
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didn't name the movie.
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So I didn't know he was a home A.
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he talks about it. I'm like someone saying, no, you
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can't like him anymore.
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He's gay.
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But I was literally taking that. I was like this, now, no,
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because I was like, I feel like he knows that
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he's gay. He'll be like I hate all this work.
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least he hides it well, I guess, but I've read
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his I've read a couple like I've read one of
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his books. I liked it. It was.
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is gay. I don't know if he's gay or he's
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bisexual or something. Heart but A, he's a very like
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because I'll get into a little bit later, like some
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of the special features. So for people listening or watching,
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I watched the extreme edition or like the unrated cut. Yeah,
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so there was a theatrical cut that was like cut
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to pieces, but I watched the one with all the
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like where they left in all the full gore scenes
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and stuff. And there's a couple of special features on
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it that were quite good and it like talks to
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Clive quite a bit and it was actually really interesting listen.
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So you want to so Clive Barker has started. He
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identifies as a gay man who had relationships with women
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and considers women a central part of his life. So
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it says that he had several relationships with older women
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during his teenage years, but realized he was gay when
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he was around eighteen, So he probably got molested by women,
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it sounds like, and then it maybe switched him because
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like how young were you? And you know, because if
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you're realized you were you had relationships with older women,
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but you realize you're gay around eighteen or nineteen, So
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how young were you when these im and we're maybe
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taking advantage of you?
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And he's also I wonder, like I don't want to
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speak for him because that's fucking I don't know if
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that is the case, Like, but he's like a hyper
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sexual guy as far as I can tell, and I
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don't even I don't know if I mean that in
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like the physical terms, Like he doesn't seem like a
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you know, a guy who's trying to be all like
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creepy and like ha, let me like sex. Everybody up
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but like, if you look at a lot of his work,
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it's very like sexualized. There's a lot of like bondagey
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kind of stuff and like.
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So he's like I think you can be physically homosexual
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and spiritually bisexual.
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Okay, interesting, I never knew that.
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Yeah, yeah, okay, despite.
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So what did what did you just said in Euro's
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spiritual homo?
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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's like whatever. I'm a big fan
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of hal Raiser. I've read what was that one book
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that I read? I read most of it, like I
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think I didn't finish it, but it was it was editing.
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He is a good writer. But yeah, his works are
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very like I don't know, maybe he is diving into
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a little bit of a of a fetish like even.
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If you look at things like hr Geiger, gig or
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howeveryone I'll pronounce it. I have a book downstairs like
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this big, like fucking six or seven hundred page book
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of all his different artwork and stuff. The amount of
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like weird like sexy like dicks and titties and like
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vaginas and stuff that are in his work is like
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kind of unsettling. I'm like, what is that about?
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Or something deep inside of them? You know, so you
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never you never know, but like I can't where the
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hell's that tray for that book? Then I can't find But.
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This movie actually really got like pulverized though, like I
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actually feel kind of bad. Yeah, so like what we
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can talk about. I'll give you my opinions and stuff
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once where you really get into it. But I like
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Clyde so this reminded me of a Clyde Barker film really,
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so yeah, like no, I will say right it was.
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In my opinion, it's definitely one of the better outcomes
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for his adapted works, and he himself even says it
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that I had written down here so like some of
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the notes from like the commentary track. So it's him
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and the director like they watched the movie together, and
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to be honest with you, like they're quite frank in
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everything they say, like they're not doing that thing where
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it's like, oh, this movie is so good, everything is
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so great, everything's so perfect, Like they're just really honest
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about it, and like straight away Barker's like, yeah, we've
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been working on getting this movie made for a long time.
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The script was the hardest part. Slash elements are fine,
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but nobody could really convey any of the bigger things
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that he felt like were a play, which we'll get into,
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like the that like backstory, well.
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I heard that the book it was only a short story,
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right that they had to add certain adaptations in the
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film of like making more of a background of Leon
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or whatever, because it wasn't in the book. He was
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just like a what like a worker or like a
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service worker at the trains to or something like that.
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He see you again in the he was in a
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was he an accountant or something like.
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That, something like that where he's just like a base
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or something like that.
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He's just like and yeah, And I think the whole
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point was, like I think why they chose photographers because
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they kind of wanted to bring in that kind of
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night crawlery.
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There was times in this film though, that I'm like,
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what are you doing? What you like, I'm freaking out,
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like why are you going that way? Why are you
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following him? Are you fucking retarded? Like why would you
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go that direction? Why would you like? Do that drives
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me insane horror movies and people like purposely put themselves
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into very dangerous situations where I'm like, man, how why,
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Like I know you're like you're being fueled by curiosity,
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but like, if you know this man is, I'm not
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gonna follow Jeffrey Dahmer into his apartment and then like
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bend over and be like all right, sir, I'm ready.
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You know what I mean?
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Was the So from listening, I'm trying to find out
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exactly where I had written this down.
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But if you knew Ted Bonny was a serial killer,
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would you follow him into his house? Oh?
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No, no, not at all. Yeah, that was it I
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wrote down. I do like the idea of Leon slowly
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descending into madness. That sex scene is intended to like
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seem like it's more rough than like she was expecting,
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or he's kind of like turned into something. The fact
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that he has all these visions and nightmares, And I
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didn't realize until I listened to the commentary Trek. The
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whole idea is supposed to be why he does all that.
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Remember when he first meets Mahogany or whatever, and like
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he grabs them and he like looks at him or whatever.
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So the whole idea is supposed to be from that
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point they have this weird connection connection and that's why
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he's That's why he's doing all the dumb shit of
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like like you just said, I think now it doesn't
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come across very well when you're watching it, but it's
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supposed to be. Like it's like he can't help himself
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but make all the wrong choices and like go all
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the wrong ways and do all the wrong things.
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I know what. I'm like, why are you doing this? Man?
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It's so so it's a dumb I'll tell you a
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little secret about myself, you know. Uh, sex scenes and
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movies and shows, I will fast forward through them, especially
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if they're obnoxiously long. I feel like we've talked about this,
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maybe I feel like maybe me and Billy did. But
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it's just I just I don't. I don't care. Like
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if I want to watch a sex scene, I'll put
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on some porno or some shit. You know.
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It's like, yeah, like I don't, don't. It's not something
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that necessarily interests me, to be honest, and like whatever.
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Sometimes they're so long that even like even on shows,
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me and like what the fuck And we'll skip through
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it and it's like ten minutes and we're like, why
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is this like important? Like you even there was Uh,
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there's been a couple of movies that we've watched where
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we're like they could have just shown them go into
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the room, like if you're gonna show nudity, show nudity
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or whatever, right, but don't make it this little thing
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where you just see like half of a nipple or
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whatever and there's rolling around the sheets. I do it
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or not do it. But there's definitely been some sex
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scenes in like movie and shows. They're like very obnoxiously long,
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and I don't know what the purpose is. It's not telling,
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it's not like is that benefiting the story. So I
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was like, I don't need like whatever. I'm just gonna
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skip through this because like it's fucking boring me.
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Yeah, And even from listening to what I think, the
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only reason that I think that was put in was
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to convey that, you know, the way she's trying to
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be like the support of partner and stuff like that,
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and she's trying to be like quite loving, and then
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like I think that scene is supposed to convey like
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instead of like them making love, he's just fucking hard. Yeah,
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and she's just kind of there, like you can even
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see in her face express she's kind of like, huh,
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that's like I thought we were making love, but now
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I'm getting fucked to death and like supposed to be like,
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you know, he's turning into something that he wasn't.
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To be honest, most men, would you rather make love
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or fuck?
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Be honest with your stuff, fuck'll be a bitch.
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Che you know, like that's what the man wants to do,
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Like you gotta be sensual a bit and stuff like that,
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but most men just want to get to it. That's
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an honest take, and it's probably true for most people,
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unless you're an effeminate bitch.
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Clive says as well, two or three times. I think
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that he's quite aware that most of the stuff, most
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of his work that's been adapted for screen is pure garbage.
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He and I upon like more investigation. He's probably the
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number one guy who speaks out against his own stuff
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being adapted for screen. That like projects start, he's really
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excited about, like, oh, this short story or this book
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or whatever is going to be adapted into a movie.
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You know, that's the natural progression. He thinks it's a
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great idea. Yeah, and he's like and then just overtime
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between studios, producers, distribution companies, all these different people get
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involved and by the end of it, you're just sitting
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there going, I know, because.
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When we I want to cover Howard's at some point,
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But honestly, I want to do like one, two, and
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three and then save the mess up ones for either
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watch alongs and commentaries or just like a forty five,
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like you know what I mean, I do, I don't.
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I do not want to cover all whatever, how many
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they are in one sitting, like so I like even
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like I would do the first three, but like it's
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some of them I've had to turn off. But like
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when he goes to space and all stuff like those
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are fun commentaries for everybody. Like make sure if you're
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listening to this or watching this, go subscribe on Rumble
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because we're able to do a little more things on Rumble,
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especially like watchalongs and stuff like that. So it's definitely
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worth subscribing to. Like I keep shouting that out, but
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Rumble is a great platform that is a little more
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lenient when it comes to things, So uh, definitely go
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check that out. But yeah, I can't, I couldn't do like,
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but I honestly think that hell Raiser one and two
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are pretty phenomenal when it comes to a horror movie
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especially the first one, like just the set up, the
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way that carries on, you know what I mean, it's
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it's still uh still holds up and it's just because
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of uh yeah. I do like the the guy plays
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Pinhead Bradley some something, Doug Bradley Bradley. He does a
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good job without him, It's not really There.
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Was a there's a couple of feature things on the
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the unrated version of the movie and have Clive Barker
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the Man behind the Myth, the Anatomy of Murder, Mahogany's Tail,
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and then like the audio commentary with the two guys.
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But the bid on Clive it goes it's actually really good.
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I might see if I can find it on YouTube
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and send it you because it's actually a really good,
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like fifteen minute watch. It's like a mini documentary. But
483
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they go to his house in Hollywood and he has
484
00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:34.759
this fucking it's like an underground bunker he goes down into,
485
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.759
but it's his art studio where he does all his
486
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:40.480
paintings and stuff, and like, dude, it's like gamme goosebumps.
487
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:42.519
Because I was like, this is kind of spooky, like
488
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:46.160
it's like kind of seems like a character from a
489
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.759
movie as well, how he works and like how his
490
00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:51.400
mind works. And he was talking about, like they ask
491
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him about, you know, why do not you really direct
492
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:56.799
anything or like really have much involvement. It's more like,
493
00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.680
you know, people option his stories and then somebody else
494
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:01.960
makes them and he kind of, you know, it's just
495
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:05.160
like an executive producer. And he says it on the
496
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.519
documentary thing, He's like, because I don't have full control,
497
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:09.720
and then everybody messes up and it's a pile of
498
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:11.640
shit that I don't like. So the only thing I
499
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.079
can control is if I write a story or write
500
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:16.839
a book, it's only me holding the pen. And if
501
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.680
I paint a painting, it's only me holding the paintbrush.
502
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:21.799
So that's the reason that I love that more than
503
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:22.680
I love filmmaking.
504
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:25.920
Makes sense, I would we could cover him as a
505
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person at some point.
506
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:31.960
Yeah, fascinating guy, I mean crazy, Yeah, I guess you know,
507
00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:33.240
he's kind of a weird.
508
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.359
Covering some of these more obscure like artists would be interesting.
509
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.119
I am. I did write down as well that one
510
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:41.960
of the biggest issues that I probably have with the
511
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:46.319
movie I like, so I enjoy this movie A good
512
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:48.640
bit to be honest with you, but one of my
513
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.440
glaring issues that I didn't really like that much, and
514
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.000
maybe it's just me. I tried to like kind of
515
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.880
not notice as much, but it does bother me in
516
00:24:57.920 --> 00:24:59.920
parts was the fucking use of CGI.
517
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.359
Man. I know, okay, there was some kills where I
518
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.640
was like, oh that that like that's cool for what
519
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.160
it is, but then you can, like the beginning of
520
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:12.079
the CGI, it looks pretty decent and then it goes
521
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.480
too far, like the eyeballs popping out. I was like, cool,
522
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.720
but like I would have liked it to be practical
523
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.079
because I think it would have looked it would have
524
00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:24.440
looked a little better, Like there was parts around my
525
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:28.119
game that looks cool, cool, cool cool cool. No, like
526
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:29.720
you know what I mean, where it looked kind of
527
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.440
it looked decent at first, and then it just goes to.
528
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.880
Like a dress, there's things they don't like. And it
529
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:36.960
started to remind me of like you know, some of
530
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.440
those later Resident Evil movies where it became just like
531
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:43.880
a tree d even the techno music awful, but like
532
00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:47.279
even even as the CG got better, like when Wesker
533
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.880
and stuff comes into it, and like there's a scene.
534
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:52.480
I don't know if it's Resident Evil Afterlife one of
535
00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:57.880
those anyway, where uh, Wesker is in some big lab
536
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:03.519
room thing and Alice is it is that the character? Yes,
537
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:05.720
so she walks in and she's like, oh, Wesker. She
538
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.319
does like the cringey like Wesker ran back and this
539
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.680
time I brought some friends. And then he turns around
540
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.559
and goes, well you should have brought more, and he
541
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.680
takes his sunglasses off and he throws them and like
542
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:23.559
it does this treaty and then she has to like
543
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:25.640
dodge the glasses for some reason. I don't know why,
544
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:27.079
because what are the glass is going to do? And
545
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:29.599
then while she's dodging the glasses, he's like spinning in
546
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:35.200
slow motion in CG like flying. It was parts of
547
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:38.119
this movie that reminded me of like that weird like
548
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.200
why did we have to use CGI here? Because it's
549
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:41.559
really taking me out of it. Like there's a few
550
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.960
scenes where he hits people with that meat hammer thing
551
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.240
and the blood spatter is CG on the windows or
552
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:51.079
he smashes is it rampage Jackson? Did he smash his
553
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.720
head off the glass window and the cracks in the
554
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.359
fucking glass window are cg Yeah, and I'm like.
555
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:01.880
Jacks did not like doing this movie, he said. I
556
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.160
watched a clip of him talking about how he would
557
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.160
they did. I don't think they did hang him up
558
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.359
by the meat hook or did they? I can't remember, No,
559
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.599
I don't think because he complained about that, they wanted
560
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.519
him to wear a thong and he was like, and
561
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.799
they wanted to plast because they had to plaster him up.
562
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.079
But he's like, I'm supposed to be out of a meat hook.
563
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:21.079
And he was like, this is the most degrading film
564
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.839
I've ever done. And he was like, and it plastered
565
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:26.279
me up, and they wanted me to wear a thogs like,
566
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.039
I ain't wear a thong. I don't know you people.
567
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.440
And then so he's like, I'll wear a jockstrap. I'm
568
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:32.680
an athlete, Like, ill, sure, I'll wear that. And then
569
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:34.440
he was like I almost had to fight one of
570
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.160
these motherfuckers because one of them slapped my ass cheeks
571
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:39.599
when they were like plastering it. And he was like,
572
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.559
I don't know these people. And it just seemed like
573
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:43.599
he had a terrible time to this film.
574
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.960
He can be a bit of a like I'm a
575
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.359
huge UFC guy have been for like probably last like
576
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.720
twenty years. But he can be a bit of a
577
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.000
money bitch as well. Though he's kind of annoying sometimes.
578
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:55.799
I'm like, for a guy who's a professional fighter, he
579
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:56.799
doesn't offload him on them.
580
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.880
Yeah, I mean my way, you know.
581
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:02.559
But look, maybe that's the way when you get to
582
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.480
like the top levels and ending, I think you have
583
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.880
to be a little bit fucking a little bit gone.
584
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:10.400
I did enjoy though, like the visual style and like
585
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.880
the direction, Like the art direction I thought was quite good.
586
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:19.359
Like and that Ryu Kimura guy who directed this movie,
587
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.119
like this was his first feature as well, which I
588
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.640
thought was really good considering like if this was your
589
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:25.880
first movie, I'd be quite happy with that. Like I'd
590
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.240
stand over that and say, you know what, like I
591
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.400
gave that my best shot, considering I've never done it before.
592
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:34.720
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it visually looks good. Like
593
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.240
I enjoyed the movie, right, I thought it was pretty decent,
594
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.920
you know, some of the some of the like That's
595
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.599
why I said some of the CGI, I'm like, I
596
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.160
wish you could have you know.
597
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:49.240
Yeah, yeah, I actually wrote that down you you. Yeah,
598
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.839
I knew you'd feel the same I was like, can
599
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.160
you imagine how perfect this movie could have been if
600
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.200
they had to use practical effects my CG just to
601
00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:59.400
clean up some shots.
602
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.279
Yeah, I know, because like practical would have looked way better.
603
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.799
But you know, but there through some of the film,
604
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.599
like I said, I was like, what do you do it? Why?
605
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.079
I know he's being pulled in? They should have made
606
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.240
that a little more obvious or.
607
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.079
Like, yeah, it's really not. It doesn't translate. I don't
608
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.559
think unless you're listening to it with the guys talking
609
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.799
over it. I think it's very hard because like even
610
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.200
as I was listening to the commentary check, I was like, oh,
611
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.279
now I get it, but like some of that now
612
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:32.359
as well could boil down to this movie got like
613
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.319
shredded to pieces between rod tomatoes.
614
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.119
That's better than the Death of the Unicorn.
615
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:43.920
No, I mean in the sense of between the MPa
616
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.960
or whatever. They took out like half the movie. And
617
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.359
then on top of that, like the producers and stuff
618
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.160
kept coming back and going no, get rid of this,
619
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.279
put more of this in, get rid of that, get
620
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:55.319
rid of this, And supposedly it's cheaper for them to
621
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.920
use CGI than it is to do practical. So they
622
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.799
were very like, I know, we won't bother. We're practical,
623
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.440
and like the guys were kind of fighting on some
624
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.720
of the stuff, being like no, no, but this has
625
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:07.640
to be practical. Though, we're doing close ups of like
626
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.319
a dead body or whatever, like no, we just do
627
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.720
CG bodies hanging on the hooks, Like no, we have
628
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.640
to buy some bodies and hang them up like it's
629
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:15.599
gonna look garbage.
630
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.480
Yeah. And I'm I'm not gonna say I'm gonna say it.
631
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.440
I'm not a fan of public transit. I never want
632
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.599
to go on a subway again. I hate subways. I
633
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.480
hate public hate buses. I hate the people on them.
634
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.839
They can all be hooked on meat trains and traveled
635
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:31.559
into the depths of.
636
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.880
Her for the most part, Like they're a certain type
637
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:34.319
of person.
638
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:35.319
Yeah, it's true.
639
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:36.119
It's true.
640
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.720
It's yeah. And and so when this came out in theaters,
641
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.480
did it make a lot of money? Oh?
642
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.599
It made like ship money. So that was what I
643
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.720
was going to say. Yeah, so I didn't notice, Actually
644
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:54.160
that's this random somewhere this was I found this, Like
645
00:30:54.200 --> 00:31:00.680
I was like, what so in its North America can release?
646
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.039
It opened in one hundred and two theaters only right, Yeah,
647
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:10.160
and they weren't. The theaters that it opened in were
648
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.680
a specific type of theater that I have never heard
649
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.559
of before. They're known as dollar theaters, known for their
650
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:20.240
extremely low admission prices. This was apparently a decision that
651
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.720
was made by a newly hired executive at lines Gate
652
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.680
known as Joseph Drake, who greatly disliked the film and
653
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.799
was doing anything to actively bury it. And even Clive
654
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.160
Barker spends about fifteen minutes on the commentary where he's like,
655
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:34.920
I want to address all the issues that I have,
656
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.839
which Drake and all the stuff he'd done to try
657
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.680
and and like Live was like I rang his office constantly,
658
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.839
and eventually he got on the phone with me and
659
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.960
he was like, he was like, I'll be honest. He
660
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:48.119
was like, I can be quite difficult. And when I
661
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.880
get annoyed, like I'm like screaming shout and I'll call
662
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.960
you anything and everything. I'll say shit about you that
663
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:57.920
like people wouldn't say. And the dude just went, no,
664
00:31:58.200 --> 00:31:59.839
Live is just not gonna work at scarbage movie.
665
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.039
Wow, I'd be pissed just because some new guy and
666
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:06.880
the thing is not giving the film a chance to
667
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.079
do well in the major theaters and stuff like that, like.
668
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.559
Like supposedly this this was supposed to be like a
669
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.839
big theater released. There was supposed to be loads of
670
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.680
like promo put into it. They wanted it raided r
671
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.960
and all that stuff was slowly but surely, just like
672
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:22.440
back step back.
673
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:24.880
I feel like it could have done well they put
674
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.000
in major theaters because people be like, oh, this sounds
675
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.359
fucked up, you know, go with your buddies or something
676
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.119
like that. Like I do think there was there could
677
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:31.279
have been.
678
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.680
He had written a trilogy. Yeah, what he had written
679
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:35.160
a trilogy?
680
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:35.640
Wow?
681
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.920
And so they were gonna they were gonna have Bradley
682
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:39.359
Cooper come back again and we were gonna it was
683
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.680
gonna pick up and see how his story continued. And
684
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.240
then the hard one I think was gonna go back
685
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.319
to the start and you were going to see how
686
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.440
Vinnie Jones's character ended up. Oh that would have been interesting, yeah,
687
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.240
but it was like obviously after it came out, like.
688
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:59.599
And like it's so like annoying sometimes, you know, even the.
689
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.519
Worst power is though it's like you say, every time,
690
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:04.000
the part that kills me is when the things are
691
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.359
lost and ruined by people who I feel like don't care.
692
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:08.640
No, I know, they just want to make their money,
693
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.160
all the record execs and there. I would say anything
694
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.240
I'll say from my show, but you know they're always yeah, yeah.
695
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.200
Yeah, I know who they are. It's a three letter
696
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:18.079
words you're going to use.
697
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.400
That's so true, and then they ruin everything. Yeah, I
698
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:22.960
want you to carry on with your notes, Like I
699
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.920
want to talk about the end near the end, so
700
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.359
we can because that's the interesting part.
701
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.720
Yeah. Yeah, I was trying to save it, Like as
702
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.119
normally we kind of go all over the plus, but
703
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:32.759
this one, I feel like the end is a bit wild,
704
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.200
so I was trying to save it. I do actually
705
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.640
like the idea from having to get into like the
706
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:41.440
underabelity of the city and like you know, showing the
707
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:45.480
reality of like what a city can be like after
708
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.519
the sun goes down. I feel like it's only like
709
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.480
if we go into reality it's on, it's it's day
710
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.200
and night now, and like it's probably it's much worse
711
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.160
than what we're seeing in the movie. But I do
712
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:55.720
kind of like that. I don't know if you've ever
713
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:56.759
seen Night Crawler.
714
00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:00.240
With a thin I think I watched. Yeah, it's the
715
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.440
guy who was in Roadhouse econom McGregor. Yeah, yeah, and
716
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.519
you know that kind of idea, And I do feel
717
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.119
like it kind of they done a good job.
718
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.920
I think of like kind of portraying like how spooky
719
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:13.760
the city could be if you were like creeping around
720
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.719
like that trying to get like shots of crimes or
721
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:16.519
like scary shit.
722
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:21.679
Yeah, And like there was a doc I'm trying to
723
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.400
Dark Days, I think is that it. Uh, there's a documentary.
724
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.679
I watched this like really drunk and a trippy out
725
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.440
when I was younger. Ye had Dark Days And it's
726
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.920
a documentary indie film and it's about like people living
727
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.480
in the underground subways I think in New York and
728
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:42.000
how they live literally underneath.
729
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:42.440
These I've seen it.
730
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.480
Yeah, it's so wild man. Yeah, and like literally they
731
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.920
have electricity and all that type of stuff, like they're
732
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.119
stealing power from like the I think the subway trains
733
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.880
above them. I actually would like to maybe do it
734
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.840
a watch along. It's actually really well and run to
735
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.599
me and stuff a lot of places. It's a it's
736
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.599
a bizarre thing. Yeah, maybe we'll look at doing this
737
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.400
because it's on my side. It's it's bizarre and weird
738
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.719
and just kind of creepy, and it'd be Finney see
739
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.320
Billies Take It's only an hour and a half, but
740
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:14.039
like it's just weird to see how people live like
741
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.599
that and how you know, it is like Futurama or
742
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:21.400
something where there's like an underground, not necessarily mutant people,
743
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:25.159
but like legit people living far off and yeah, in
744
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.639
like the depths of the underground. You know, it's crazy.
745
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.079
I know, imagine they're scary. That'd be though, like if
746
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.920
you were let's say you were just ripped out of
747
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.559
your life right now, because I know that's probably how
748
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.280
some of these people ended up there. Like I don't
749
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.199
think anybody ever went you know what I want to do.
750
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:43.800
I want to live in the so by like a rat. Yeah,
751
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.880
I know, but it's like, you know, it's just true circumstances.
752
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.000
Some people just end up. But imagine if you were
753
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.039
just ripped from your life right now, everything got fucked
754
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.760
up on you. You lost everything, and it was like
755
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.719
my only option is like I'm gonna have to like
756
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.000
venture down into the Soaby or whatever and just like
757
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:00.320
and like to go down there, and then you have
758
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.360
all these like pre Yeah, you have all these like
759
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.360
pre established people who were most of them are probably
760
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.320
at this point like completely psychotic.
761
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.199
Yeah, I know, you know, and then like you find
762
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.880
like essentially like there's friends and different characters and it's
763
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.440
just like it is wild man. Yeah, I'll actually look
764
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.679
at doing that sometimes soon. It would be interesting to
765
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.480
cover on my show because I do. I do have
766
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:26.239
an episode about the it's about more people essentially people
767
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.800
that live in the underground. I espentially gonna maybe do
768
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.920
it for Patreon, but I'm like it may be too
769
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.239
it might be like too good to just hide away
770
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.679
because it's so weird the amount of people that do
771
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.280
live in the undergrounds of some of these like subway systems,
772
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.199
and it's pretty weird. But hey, if I would, I
773
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.000
would rather be living on the street corner or in
774
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:47.800
some of the depths of the underground where they have
775
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.719
a little bit of electricity and you can build shelters
776
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.920
and stuff like that. Not gonna. I'd probably rather be
777
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:52.559
a sewer red.
778
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:54.840
Oh I see him on dude like a computer.
779
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:55.559
I know.
780
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.280
I like it's crazy. I was like I was like
781
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.079
living down in this little hole. It's like down in
782
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:01.440
like a.
783
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.280
It's like the local like jerk Off Center, like they
784
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.360
have like like you know, oh god, you know what
785
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.440
I mean, that's where all the homeless people go if
786
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:11.840
they need to get the rocks off.
787
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:16.159
Like I did actually write down several times that I
788
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.480
love how this movie was late, like the kind of
789
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.119
spooky like kind of gothic colors and the city. I
790
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:27.360
felt like they kind of captured New York in like
791
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.079
a different way. They made it feel really isolated, like
792
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:31.920
at night when he goes out or when he's first
793
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:36.880
following Mahogany, it feels like the streets are like almost empty,
794
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.400
like when he becomes fixated on him. Yeah, but like
795
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.880
when he becomes fixated on him, it's like it feels
796
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.639
like there's nobody else around. So it's like if something
797
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:45.800
happens to you, like you're fucked.
798
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.079
Well. And in those scenes where he's like sitting there
799
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.559
with his briefcase, even Chelsea was like why would you
800
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.440
go up to this guy? And he's like holding it tightly,
801
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.519
like and you're saying weird. But in some of those
802
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.119
shots where he's just he's watching him for god knows
803
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.400
how long and it's like all the people are I
804
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:01.920
thought that was kind of a cool shot.
805
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:03.760
Also, way is his name Mahugany?
806
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.320
He really likes the smell of wood, you know.
807
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.960
You know it's like because instantly I had to double
808
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.400
take on it. I was like, wait a second, what
809
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:11.880
his name is?
810
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:14.280
And some of the parts I'm like, I just hate
811
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:18.599
stupid people in horror movies, like when the girlfriend Leslie
812
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.840
Bibb or whatever her name is, like when she's like, uh,
813
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.480
and when they're searching the apartment and then she sees
814
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.440
a bag all of a sudden on the table, but
815
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:28.639
it wasn't there before, and then so you go through
816
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:30.519
the bag. Whenn't you clue in that he's in the
817
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.480
apartment now and that and like yeah, and how she
818
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.679
she doesn't hear what happens to Jurgons or whatever that
819
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.119
guy's weird name is, Like why is your name Jurgens?
820
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.599
Assuming that's his last name, but Jurgens is literally a
821
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.920
jerk off cream, you know, Jurgons cream. Aaron knows about it.
822
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:54.840
He's yeah, but like that what that guy's name was?
823
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:55.280
Something weird?
824
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.119
Like I'm pretty sure, yeah, did you have the thing
825
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:05.239
pulled up? I'm pretty sure his name is Jurgins. Midnight
826
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.440
me train, I did.
827
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.280
I definitely haven't written down somewhere, but I have a
828
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:10.400
million pages of notes.
829
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:12.639
You always do me, uh, I know.
830
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:13.760
Yeah, it was like something wrong with me.
831
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.840
Yeah, his name is Jurgis. Oh, Jurgis. I thought it
832
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:24.079
was Jurgins. I swearers. Jurgis. What a weird name. Everyone's
833
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:25.280
got names.
834
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:27.440
I did like as well, like there is a bit
835
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.440
of a mix of genres, like there's like a slasher
836
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.639
kind of crime trailer mystery.
837
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:33.880
I didn't know where it's going because for the fans,
838
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.519
I didn't know. I've never seen this. I've heard about
839
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.159
this film since I was like probably ten years old.
840
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:41.679
Oh so this is the first time you saw this?
841
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.239
Yeah yeah, Oh I thought you had already seen this.
842
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.679
Wait eight, So maybe I'm not that that young. Actually,
843
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.360
so I was like seventeen. I weird. I feel like
844
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:55.639
this movie was a little older. I remember hearing about
845
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.079
this a lot when I was younger, and then like
846
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.800
the Midnight mea train always want to watch it and
847
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.719
remember the cover. So I probably remember like seeing it
848
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:06.760
at the video store or something like that, maybe Blockbuster.
849
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.960
We actually thought I was a little older, but I
850
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:16.480
distinctly remember seeing this and and then I never watched it, Like,
851
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.880
I didn't even know that. I was surprised they didn't
852
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.000
do the Clive Barker's Midnight Meat Train on it. Because
853
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.320
they don't. It's not on the cover or anything like that.
854
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.639
I would have maybe been more inclined, like maybe on
855
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.480
some of the later posters. But the posters that I see,
856
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.519
there's one where it says Clive Barker's and most of them.
857
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.760
Just have even on the DVD. It doesn't have a
858
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.000
look on the cover of Davidators the cover that I wonder.
859
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:44.880
I wonder is that though a conscious thing, looked like going,
860
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.239
don't put my fucking name on this garbage. Yeah, like
861
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:50.360
he felt quite happy. I think about how this one
862
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.239
turned out overall. The director's caught now, not the theatrical.
863
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:54.719
He was really annoyed about the theatrical.
864
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:57.320
But the hell that I watched on Plex probably the
865
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:58.800
the theatrical right.
866
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.239
Because there's like all the extended gore scenes. There's more
867
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.880
practical effects and stuff that are into on redded version.
868
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:06.760
Oh, I wish I watched that version. That would have
869
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:07.039
been nice.
870
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.119
Yeah, because they caught like twenty something minutes. I think, Wow,
871
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:11.920
that's yeah, and a lot of it is the Gore
872
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:13.800
and the Kills is what they called it.
873
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.960
How long is the the because I watched the one
874
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.760
that was like an hour and forty three minutes or
875
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:18.239
something like that.
876
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:22.920
Oh, no, that's probably that's probably it. Then weird because
877
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:24.400
there was one that went to theaters and it was
878
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:25.400
like an hour or twenty.
879
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.480
Of course, ted Ramie gets his eyes bashed out, too, right,
880
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:33.159
It seems like that one. Something's always happening. But yeah,
881
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:34.320
this is the first time I saw it. But I
882
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.199
I it's so funny. How long that I went knowing
883
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.800
and hearing about this movie, thinking the name sound weird,
884
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.639
thinking oh, I should watch this, And then when you're like, oh,
885
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.519
we're gonna do Midnight Metre, I was like, all right,
886
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.679
finally I'll finally watch this. I've literally been putting this off,
887
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.840
like three years to watch this because I was going
888
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.039
to a long time ago too.
889
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.400
Was I assumed this was in it? Then if that's
890
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.079
the case, because I don't know. I didn't write down
891
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.960
all the differences between the different cuts, but I wrote
892
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.000
down the scene with him pulling out the tee nails eyes.
893
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.719
I thought it was like really horrific, and I thought, yeah,
894
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:09.880
I thought it was shot really well, and I kind
895
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:11.519
of had like a weird like eighties vibe.
896
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:14.320
Chelsea couldn't look at it. She was like, oh no, no, no,
897
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.960
no no, and obviously she's pregnant right now he's even
898
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.880
worse and him yanking it out, but like you're you're
899
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.000
getting rid of the identifiable records, right, that's essentially what
900
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.079
he's doing. So if the bodies were discovered, I'm guessing,
901
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.840
or when we get to who is consuming the bodies,
902
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:34.679
maybe they didn't. They didn't like the hard pieces, you know.
903
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.000
That was also like a kind of a bit of
904
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.039
a left turn, like when he gets knocked out after
905
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.079
that part and he wakes up and he's tied up
906
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.320
and there's like something attacking him and like I.
907
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.639
Remember devil, some sort of deep I don't know what
908
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:46.880
it was. Fuck.
909
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:49.000
I was like, that's another element you've added now as well.
910
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:50.320
I thought we were looking at like some sort of
911
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.559
slasher movie. Now there's like some kind of demon or
912
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:54.760
something as well, and.
913
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.519
Walking into that because I have my theories.
914
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.760
You know, I did write down. I thought the Vinnie
915
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.239
Jones was fantastic as Mahogany.
916
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:05.960
I don't know who else could have played that, to
917
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.960
be honest, Yeah, who else would have like done it
918
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:10.599
like he did it where he was just like quiet
919
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.480
and stoic and very like ominous and does look like
920
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.360
a serial killer, you know in.
921
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.360
Some red face he has like face a.
922
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:21.679
Serial killer is just your average human, right, Like That's
923
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.320
the thing is, like you never know because it could
924
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.880
be anybody. But if you think about like some of
925
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.559
these people, like what's that I'm thinking of a specific one,
926
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:34.679
but there's there's been some serial killers where they're like
927
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:39.920
kind of big dudes that have the like overpowering advantage.
928
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:42.599
It's gonna it's.
929
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:43.679
Gonna be And I mean, if I was going to
930
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.400
do something like that, I'd want to be somebody like
931
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.800
Vinnie Jones, probably who's like I don't know, like he's
932
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:54.880
what like, uh, he's probably six foot something.
933
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.480
I would imagine macarthurth I'm sucking up. I was like,
934
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:02.320
what's that guy's name? Is gonna bother me? S? Yeah,
935
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.360
I just keep talking. I'll think of it. I do.
936
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.400
Actually, I'll bring this up now. I feel like it's
937
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:12.559
a perfect time considering we're talking about Viny Jones and
938
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.280
I actually have a kind of funny story so I
939
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:16.639
met Vinnie Jones.
940
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:20.400
Did you really isn't he off of Way? Isn't he
941
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:25.360
off of euro Trip? Yes? And when he's when they're
942
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:30.039
in the like sing the whatever national anthem and do
943
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.159
you remember that? Have you seen You've seen euro Trip? Right,
944
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.079
And he's like one of the soccer hooligans and they're
945
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.119
all scared of him because he's like they're for he's
946
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:42.239
forcing him to like sing that song of the Manchester
947
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.480
United whatever. It's like, it's actually a great movie in
948
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:47.280
his character.
949
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.719
He's a very he's a very good actor. He's a
950
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.679
very underrated actor. I mean he used to be a
951
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.039
professional soccer player as well.
952
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.400
Really that makes kind of say, that's so fun why
953
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.639
they put him a euro Trip as a soccer hooligan.
954
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:05.599
As a football he was. He played for Wilmledon, Leeds United,
955
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.800
Sheffield United, Chelsea and Queens Park Rangers. So for people
956
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:14.840
over this side or like, those are all quite notable teams.
957
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.480
But yeah, he So he's in Wexford quite a bit,
958
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:20.800
which is the town I live in, and he's big
959
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.840
into horse racing, dog race and stuff like that, and
960
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.679
so he comes over here and has like relationships with
961
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.199
people have horses and different animals and stuff to go
962
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:31.800
to races and stuff like that. So he goes and
963
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.400
bets on it and just something he's into. So he
964
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.039
spends like a good bit of time in Wexford. And
965
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.440
there's a hotel where I go to the gym. It's
966
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:43.679
literally a two minute drive from my house. Yeah, but
967
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.400
we were we were there one time having dinner or something.
968
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.920
It was like some sort of a family dinner and
969
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:54.119
I was taking a piss in the toilet and I
970
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:59.440
like just barely like like tip elbows with whoever's next
971
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.880
to me. And then I look over and it's Vinnie
972
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.119
Jones looking at me with that just like stone look.
973
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:07.039
Like you're peeing with him.
974
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:11.880
Yeah, like we're pissling at the Ornolds weird and like
975
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:13.880
but I look when I look right, it was literally
976
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.480
something of a movie. He does that stone cold face
977
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.199
where he just goes like and just look straight at me,
978
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:21.599
and I'm like, whoa, that's that And he just goes
979
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.800
all right, Matt, and I'm like hello, and I go over.
980
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:27.760
I'm like washing my hands and I'm like I feel
981
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:29.679
like I can't I can't realy can I approach him
982
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.400
in the bathroom. But now I can't let him walk
983
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.039
out of here eier though I might never meet him
984
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.360
as a famous person. Yeah, I couldn't help. But I
985
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.760
waited till he was like washing his hands, and I
986
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.360
was like, you're Vinnie Johnes right, and was like so
987
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.960
I'm told, and I'm like wow, and like, dude, this
988
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:48.639
was a long time ago, so I don't even know
989
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.079
if I had like a fucking camera phone running. Yeah,
990
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.719
and I'm like, uh, and we Ireland wasn't in Europe
991
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:56.320
at the time. We were in pounds, we were in
992
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.400
Irish pounds. So I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck
993
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.119
can I And I'm like, oh, I have to get
994
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.480
your signature. So I take out a five pound note
995
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.400
and he signs the five pound note in the toilet.
996
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.480
That's funny, that's yes, so weird. I would have been like, Yo,
997
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.400
what the fuck, that's awesome, Like.
998
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:14.639
It was so weird because like when I looked at him,
999
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:17.519
and like he looked he's a super nice guy, but
1000
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.880
like obviously he has that look. Yeah, but like his
1001
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.239
face always kind of looks quite like You're like, well,
1002
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.719
this dude's going to kill me. And that's why I
1003
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.480
was like should. I I was like, is I don't
1004
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:28.920
know what he's like in real life? So like if
1005
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.000
I ask him, like are you Vnnie John's, is he
1006
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:32.760
gonna like smash my head through the mirror and like
1007
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:34.760
kick the head off me? Because there's did you ever
1008
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:36.840
see the videos of him, like a dude tries to
1009
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:37.559
fight him in a bar?
1010
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:39.719
Really? Yeah?
1011
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.519
Yeah, and he like tries to punch that off him.
1012
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:43.519
That's crazy.
1013
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.400
I don't know, Yes, I supposedly like he doesn't take
1014
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:46.280
no ship off people.
1015
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.199
I probably wouldn't, right, He's a very big dude. And
1016
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.760
if you yeah, so that's crazy.
1017
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.440
He's a good actor though, he's a very good actor.
1018
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:56.159
That's gonna bug me. I keep looking.
1019
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:59.239
I'm surprised he hasn't been in more horror movies, to be.
1020
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.719
Honest, Yeah, because he could play that character. It's funny
1021
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.679
when he is, like he's done comedy whos and then
1022
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.079
mostly obviously like a lot of like serious rot gangster
1023
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.280
stuff because that's what he kind of looks like, right.
1024
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:15.880
And he was like notoriously violent as well when he
1025
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:16.719
used to play soccer.
1026
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:18.280
Oh that makes sense.
1027
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.079
Oh yeah, no, dude, he would do like these crazy
1028
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.159
tackles and like try and break people's legs and stuff.
1029
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.079
Oh man, I'm still looking for that specific serial killer whatever.
1030
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.119
I don't there's so many zero kills that would come.
1031
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:35.840
When I was going through this list, I was like, wow, yeah, weird.
1032
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.480
It's just like, you know, it's just formiliar, like it's
1033
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:42.320
just cool, like how oh yeah, well that does not
1034
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:43.559
look fun with that lag.
1035
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.519
Yeah, I know, right. The dude is just like he
1036
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.440
was manic when he was a soccer.
1037
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:54.280
That guy's balls look that black and white one.
1038
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:57.079
On.
1039
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:57.960
Yeah, it doesn't care.
1040
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.840
Just like the first thing I told him when I
1041
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.880
got near him that I wouldn't be playing any football
1042
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.760
and neither would he. Weird, he grabbed his nuts, He's definitely.
1043
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.239
Grab he a little kid.
1044
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:11.039
What the fuck is that?
1045
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.920
Oh yeah, he was notorious for that, man weird.
1046
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:15.960
Then he became an actor.
1047
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:18.760
Yeah, like he was notorious.
1048
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:22.400
Like people so like fucking drop kick that guy.
1049
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:24.280
Like they would call it, like when you know when
1050
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.559
somebody's marking you, so like if I'm a midfielder and
1051
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.599
you're a midfielder, you're American my position or whatever. Yeah,
1052
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.280
And like I've seen so many interviews over the years
1053
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:35.039
with dudes who were like they go out on the
1054
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.920
pitch and then they realized that they're like matched up
1055
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.199
with Vinie and they're like, oh fucking hell, we're not
1056
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.360
even going to play fucking soccer. He's just yeah, he's
1057
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.159
literally going to kick me in the head with studs.
1058
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:48.039
That's so funny, weird. There's one picture where he looks
1059
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:51.559
like he's kicking a kid like a child. Weird.
1060
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.719
Scary dude though, the grab that.
1061
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:57.400
Guy's nuts ship to me is that from Lockstuck? What
1062
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:58.159
move is that from?
1063
00:49:59.159 --> 00:49:59.840
Uh?
1064
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:01.599
I can't remember lock Stock.
1065
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.639
I think yeah, because he's in a couple of movies
1066
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:05.360
like that, right.
1067
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.480
I love Lockstock to Smoker Barrels. I think it's that
1068
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.559
one of the other one that's so weird. They grabbed
1069
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.280
that guy's nuts. I'm not gonna like a girl guy's face.
1070
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.800
He looks pissed, and the guy's.
1071
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.800
Like, oh, that would be awful though, right.
1072
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.760
There's no way he could shoot those shotguns off in
1073
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.519
his hands like he has them in that movie. Ah,
1074
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:27.719
not at all, especially a double barrel. I think they
1075
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.159
where There's no way your fucking wrist.
1076
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.880
Would even I'm actually working on trying to get any
1077
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:31.559
on the show by the.
1078
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.639
Way, Oh, that'd be awesome. You gotta keep pushing because
1079
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.480
there's definitely some people I would like to talk to you,
1080
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.119
I would talk to him. That'd be fine. I jump
1081
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.000
on for some of those ones. If people actually know
1082
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.360
some of the writers and directors, that obviously other people
1083
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.119
be very interested. I'm like, I don't know them. You know,
1084
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.280
I'm not like a horror I'm not. I'm not a
1085
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.719
completely horr nerd like you, but I am a nerd.
1086
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.559
But when I was talking ear you're about to release
1087
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.480
and like all the shit that went wrong with this movie,
1088
00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:01.719
so on on Detract live and and the director they
1089
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:05.199
talk about what happened. So there was pretty much no advertising,
1090
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:09.800
none whatsoever, Like nothing, no advertising at all. They had
1091
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:15.400
no website for the movie. The closest showing to like
1092
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:19.079
Central Los Angeles, it was seventy miles away.
1093
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.400
Weird, they really want that, I really wanted to suppress
1094
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:22.840
this film.
1095
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:26.079
That's fine, I know, right, And then the closest showing
1096
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.400
to New York City was a three and a half
1097
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.079
hour drive to the closest theater to New York City.
1098
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:33.840
So it was like he literally just picked places and went,
1099
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.920
where's the furthest most like desolate areas like fight in
1100
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:37.480
the movie theater.
1101
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:39.599
I really wonder how well it would do if he
1102
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.960
didn't do that, Like if they put in theaters, I'm
1103
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.679
sure they would have gotten audience because people be like, yo, like,
1104
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.320
you know, if I was even that eight, like so whatever,
1105
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.280
this came out when I was seventeen. You know, if
1106
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.320
I was at the theaters and I saw the poster,
1107
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.239
I'd be like, Yo, that looks sick. I gotta go
1108
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.400
see that. No wonder why I didn't hear about it
1109
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.000
until it was on like DVD.
1110
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.639
I think it really well on DVD as well. Those
1111
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:03.480
the only thing so they were kind of they were
1112
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.280
talking about that. They were like, it done really, really
1113
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:07.559
really well on DVD.
1114
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:10.000
I wonder if they would have got money from the
1115
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.840
theatrical releases too, if it would have helped, because that's
1116
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:13.360
not really fair.
1117
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.679
I hate when they do that because they basically got
1118
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.239
fucking nothing. Clive said that the executive that I mentioned before,
1119
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:25.239
Joseph Drake. He eventually called Clive back and said, sorry,
1120
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.800
my friend, the movie just doesn't work at all for me.
1121
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.239
We can't get a good trader from any of the footage.
1122
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:33.320
You guys shot, it's just not going to happen. Just
1123
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:36.480
forget about it, and that's it. Move on. And then
1124
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.480
the director comes on and says, well, funny you found
1125
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.840
that out, Clive, because I was told absolutely nothing as
1126
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.239
far as I knew. When I finished shooting. We were
1127
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.639
getting a huge theatrical release, we were getting a website,
1128
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:49.679
we were getting merchandise, we were getting advertised, we were
1129
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.840
getting everything. And then the day the movie comes out
1130
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:54.760
is when he found out that it was in one
1131
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:55.440
hundred teters.
1132
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:57.800
Dogar guy got a beef with Clive or something like
1133
00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:58.480
maybe that's it.
1134
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:00.440
I don't know. He must have been just like a dick.
1135
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.599
And then that's when Clive says, you know, I do
1136
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:04.440
want to direct a lot of my own projects, but
1137
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.320
I just don't do it anymore because the studio interference
1138
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.760
has just been crazy. And when I write my own
1139
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.320
stories and paint my own paintings, it's the only way
1140
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.800
that I have full control, which is a fair point.
1141
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.960
That's so crazy, man, I'd be fucking pissed. That's not
1142
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:22.000
really fair. Wow, that's as sad because it could have
1143
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:22.760
done a way better.
1144
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.320
You know, I did like the shot, you know when
1145
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:31.679
Leon has his his photo exhibit or whatever, and remember
1146
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:33.000
he goes up and I actually I.
1147
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.280
Was looking eyes or whatever.
1148
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:38.280
Yeah, but I was looking at that photo of Annie Johnson.
1149
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:39.960
I was like, fuck, man, that'd be such a cool
1150
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.519
photo to have because it looks so scary looking. I'm like,
1151
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:47.519
that's actually quite a cool But I did like that part.
1152
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:49.639
It was kind of weird how like, you know, he's
1153
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.119
like looking at the image but then it nearly feels
1154
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:52.760
real and.
1155
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:54.679
Staring back at you.
1156
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:54.960
Yeah.
1157
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:56.440
Yeah, that was actually a good shot.
1158
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.840
Yeah. Clive had written this as a trilogy and he
1159
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.159
expanded the lower and he was going to explain how
1160
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:05.960
deep the conspiracy truly went.
1161
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:09.880
Sounds like he knows something that.
1162
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.440
Now here's something. Another thing that I had a gripe
1163
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.800
with the scene when Leon gets ready to fight Mahogany
1164
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:22.679
on the train, So I didn't you know, he's like
1165
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.039
putting on the shit and all these like it just
1166
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.719
felt a bit like something like out the A Team.
1167
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:28.760
I was like, this is a bit comical. What I
1168
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:33.400
didn't what I didn't realize was right, And this is
1169
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.440
going to kind of spoil because we're getting towards like
1170
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.599
the ending parts. This will kind of spoil in a
1171
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:42.840
way about so the whole idea of that, right, I
1172
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:44.960
was like, that's kind of like for a want a
1173
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:46.719
better term, I was like, fucking gay looking like that
1174
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:48.239
he's putting on this shit and he's like, yeah, I'm
1175
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:50.159
gonna go fight him on the train with my tools.
1176
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:53.360
What was kind of supposed to be happening there is
1177
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:57.599
inadvertently you were supposed to see his slow descent into
1178
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:03.000
becoming Mahogany's successor without even realizing he was putting the
1179
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:06.920
ship on and didn't realize that like, oh, I'm already
1180
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:08.440
like assuming this role basically.
1181
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:11.280
Psychically, they're already controlling him, maybe because even when he
1182
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.360
started to snap pictures of them, it is weird. It's like,
1183
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:18.800
you know, it's almost like this like a theorical type
1184
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:20.639
like I'm trying to think of the word I want
1185
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:22.440
to use, but like how it's like it's kind of
1186
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:26.239
like like a haunting. Actually there's a word I'm looking for.
1187
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:30.079
But like he snaps the picture and then it almost
1188
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.400
it almost kind of looks like he's connected to him now,
1189
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.760
like they were kind of explaining Yeah, but psychically, man,
1190
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.119
that's the word I want. They're there. He's kind of
1191
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:44.840
in that world now right where he's he's breaking He's
1192
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:49.239
broken the threshold between our reality and then the reality
1193
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.519
of this underground of these like creatures that we'll get
1194
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.079
to or whatever. It is interesting because then it's kind
1195
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.519
of like we only see the physical world. But even
1196
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.199
Chelsea was like, oh, the weird Like she was putting
1197
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.239
pieces together before I was about the weird train conductor
1198
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.760
and how he allowed it to happen, and they're all
1199
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.559
kind of connected, and it's almost like he broke that
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00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:16.000
threshold of like this reality and then the reality they
1201
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.320
exist in that are supposed to kind of stay hidden,
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00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:18.920
you know what I mean.
1203
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:21.519
Mm hmm, Yeah. I think there was a lot of
1204
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.079
from listening to them talk like, there was obviously way
1205
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.760
deeper meanings, but it's just it probably didn't really come
1206
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.639
across that well, yeah, if you know what I mean,
1207
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:33.400
Like from the page to like and this is what
1208
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:35.440
life was talking about. It's like it's one thing to
1209
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.440
write a story and have all the stuff that like
1210
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.480
you feel should be part of it or you want
1211
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.199
it to be part of us, and then it's like,
1212
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.000
you know when so many people get involved in them
1213
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:47.719
and goes, yeah, but maybe we should do this, maybe
1214
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.119
we should do that, and then eventually it's like, oh,
1215
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:51.840
so this is not my story anymore, and this is
1216
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:53.000
just some other fucking thing.
1217
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.800
It's garbage. I hate how they do that. Hollywood man
1218
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.360
make money, get their shekels, and get the fuck out
1219
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.199
of there as long as they're can. Yeah, and then
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00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:02.880
it doesn't matter if it even does well, as long
1221
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:08.400
as they've made their money back and stuff and artist
1222
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:11.360
art was dying. It's starting to slowly come back. But
1223
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:13.119
what he actually I.
1224
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:14.880
Wrote this down and it has nothing to really do
1225
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.039
with ending, but I was like, you know what, I
1226
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:21.280
kind of want to meet a chick like fucking Maya
1227
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:24.559
like she would she would literally do anning for him.
1228
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:27.599
She puts up with all his bullshit for the whole movie,
1229
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.519
and then she's like, yeah, I'm going to like go
1230
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.079
to this place and get on this train and ill
1231
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.119
like follow them. I'm like, wow, It's like I can't
1232
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:37.239
even get a fucking text back.
1233
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.960
I know that's a real woman, you know, that's what
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00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:43.840
you want. You want that is going to like, you know,
1235
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.719
die for you, essentially the same way that you should
1236
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:47.320
want to die for.
1237
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:48.840
What was it the way Clive put it was like
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00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:51.519
you want the woman who will follow you into the
1239
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:53.599
depths of hell and something. He put it actually like
1240
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.519
it sounded like a poem. I was like, wow, that's true.
1241
00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:57.800
But that's why you're a Clivee Parker.
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00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.480
That's kind of it's kind of what you want to
1243
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.239
look for. You don't want to look for, like, oh, no,
1244
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.239
you did one thing wrong. Now I'm onto the next guy.
1245
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:07.280
And only fans or whatever, not only fans.
1246
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right though, yeah, yeah, you're right.
1247
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:13.159
Though I can't even I don't even know what it's called.
1248
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.119
Whatever you swipe, you know.
1249
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.360
The way Tom Tom has them all on his son. Really,
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00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:24.280
I did like when she discovers all the bodies hanging
1251
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.519
in the train and that like white angle shot and
1252
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:28.519
like then you see like it goes to like the
1253
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.800
tools and his tool bag and the naked chicken. He's
1254
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.599
like just how he seems like he's just at work.
1255
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.440
It's very like just clinical to him. He's not really
1256
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.480
like he doesn't make any faces. He's not he's just
1257
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:41.440
stone face. He's like, oh, I'm just doing a job.
1258
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:43.639
I thought that was a really good scene.
1259
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:48.239
Yeah, and some of the gross body scenes, especially during
1260
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:51.880
the fight scene, you know, when they're like they battle
1261
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:55.360
or whatever, like some of that's actually a really good Yeah,
1262
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:59.440
it was pretty gnarly. And the sounds that they like,
1263
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:04.039
the hits and stuff like that, get they did. Whoever
1264
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:07.719
does that, whoever did the sound effects did a pretty
1265
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.320
good job. I like the sound of meat hitting when
1266
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.960
they were like slicing up the bodies because they were
1267
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.159
all like they're hitting against them and stuff like that.
1268
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:18.639
And then good old the fucking Jurgen's cream is get
1269
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.840
gets sliced up and he's like, you think he's gonna survive?
1270
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:26.320
Yeah, that's pretty grim. That was pretty grim. I'm actually, uh,
1271
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:28.719
you know, like they're hacking the bodies up, the cord blood,
1272
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.480
they're like the way the cameras like moving around the
1273
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:34.960
train car kind of And I did say when the
1274
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:38.280
knife stabs into Jargis and he essentially gets golded white
1275
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.360
hanging upside down, I thought that was cool touch.
1276
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:43.280
Ye actually, oh shit, going to save him and now
1277
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:43.960
he's gone.
1278
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.800
Forever, you know. And then we're kind of getting into
1279
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:48.239
a lot of the stuff that you probably want to
1280
00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:51.719
talk about as well. When when the train stops and
1281
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:55.760
the creatures enter, it had me rethinking what is happening.
1282
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:57.840
The creature design I felt like was great on these
1283
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.039
two and how they were list the idea of the
1284
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.840
creatures feeding on the bodies, pulling the legs off and
1285
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:04.679
the body's hanging on the meat hooks. Yeah, you know
1286
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:08.440
that scene where they pull on the body and like
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01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:10.840
you see where the hook the hook is kind of
1288
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.639
going through like the heel and it just like starts
1289
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:16.800
to tear. I was like, wow, that's fucking horrific.
1290
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:28.519
Yeah, it's definitely pointing towards the idea of the reptilians,
1291
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:32.679
Like they literally look like reptilian creatures, same kind of jaw,
1292
01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:37.559
Like Foreshore, they're diving into a conspiracy, like the I
1293
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.480
don't know, like in my conspiracy mind, it's like I
1294
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:44.320
think these people get even like cly someone like Clive Barker,
1295
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:47.639
you know, is he is he are these thoughts coming
1296
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:51.119
from his head right? Or is something dropping them in
1297
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:53.800
his head? Yeah? People might not understand that if you've
1298
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:56.360
never listened to my show, but like, is that what's
1299
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:59.239
happening is is these thoughts being dropped in his head
1300
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:04.119
by something beyond our reality? Because that whole thing is
1301
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:07.159
supposed to be a very real conspiracy theory about why
1302
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.800
so many children go missing a year, and there was
1303
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:14.559
there's theories about that that. Okay, there was. I start
1304
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.079
getting into the alien aspect of things and diving pretty
1305
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:18.840
deep into the reptilians. And if you're not aware of
1306
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:21.159
who like David Iiki is, you should probably go listen
1307
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:24.239
to his talks because it's still fascinating even if maybe
1308
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:28.639
it's not true, it's still pretty fascinating. And this kind
1309
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:33.800
of idea that there is some sort of ancient reptilian
1310
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:37.280
type creatures that either physically exist here or they exist
1311
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.400
in an alternate dimension that we just can't see, that
1312
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:43.400
are feeding off our energy. That's just one theory, right,
1313
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:46.559
but there's been theory of going down that UFO in
1314
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.559
gray alien and reptilian rabbit hole. This idea I've heard
1315
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:54.440
from people that supposedly were in the military that there
1316
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:58.840
is underground bases dumbs that this is what they call them,
1317
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:02.320
and deep underground bases, and that there is some sort
1318
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:04.679
of reptilian creatures like you have the Dulcy Bass and
1319
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.760
they're actually feeding them in the underground and then that's
1320
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:10.599
why all these children go missing, because they want a
1321
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:16.599
certain type of pubescent child because it's a pure energy source.
1322
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:20.159
And then they do things like what people classify adrenochrome
1323
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.039
is and stuff like that, and like we'll be covering
1324
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:24.239
on my show eventually where I do think you can
1325
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.000
think this is all conspiracy theory and jargon or whatever,
1326
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:29.360
but uh, there is a lot of things that point
1327
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.280
like the Wier laptop supposed to be was real. Why
1328
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:35.320
did sixteen cops mysteriously die at the hands of Hillary Clinton?
1329
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.320
And then I've seen the images from the Wier laptop.
1330
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.400
I've literally seen them where it looks like a young
1331
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.920
girl is missing her face. And then guess what it
1332
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:47.840
connects to Tom Hanks and Castaway and Ellen and all
1333
01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.639
these things because the the you know, Wilson Will said,
1334
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.639
you know, that's supposed to be the look of a
1335
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:58.119
face that has been torn off. And conveniently, Ellen also
1336
01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:00.320
is on a video when she has a sw wether
1337
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:03.960
that has that exact same like that face on it,
1338
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.199
and there's been other videos. So this idea of being
1339
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:09.719
drip fed into our head about the fact that there
1340
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:12.400
is maybe some sort of creatures in the underground that
1341
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:15.880
are feeding on human beings and that's why all these
1342
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.119
people go missing, and yes, it could be sex trafficking
1343
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:21.159
and all sorts of things, right, but the ad read
1344
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:23.480
through rate of the amount of children that go missing
1345
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.239
should disturb a lot more people than it does. Most
1346
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:29.280
peop are living their everyday life not thinking about it.
1347
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:32.199
We covered this recently on like our The Dark Side
1348
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:35.280
of Hollywood episode is like, it is more prevalent than
1349
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.519
people understand, and most people in the world that we
1350
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:41.320
exist and don't want to look at that stuff because
1351
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:44.239
it frightens them that, wow, this is actually going on,
1352
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.280
and maybe the governments or something like that are facilitating
1353
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:49.239
it or at least know about it because they must.
1354
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:53.079
Then life gets a little more scary. It becomes like
1355
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:55.559
a horror movie, and most people don't want to look
1356
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:56.880
at that. They want to look at the fake thing
1357
01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:59.480
on a screen. Right. But sorry for my little ramt,
1358
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:02.039
But like it is the ties to this, you know
1359
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:03.920
what I mean? When I saw that, I was like,
1360
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.440
of course, of course this leads back to this whole
1361
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.840
idea of like the reptilians, and I'm like, that makes
1362
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:12.840
kind of sense. I feel like Clive Barker was either
1363
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.760
looking into conspiracy theories or heard about something to do
1364
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:17.159
with this, you know, I.
1365
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:19.519
Was I was just gonna say, like he doesn't mention
1366
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.159
anything obviously, like both.
1367
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:25.400
Absolutely must Why are they reptilian looking creatures?
1368
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:25.599
You know?
1369
01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:26.280
Why is it very.
1370
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.079
You know what I mean, it's very convenient when you
1371
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.960
bring it up like that. It is actually quite convenient
1372
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:37.119
to the of course they're that yeah, it's it's and
1373
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.360
it's that closely kind of tied in a way.
1374
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.000
That weird though when I saw it, I was like, hmmm,
1375
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.400
kind of makes sense. And they had to feed them
1376
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:46.800
or they'll come out of the underground, you know what
1377
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:50.199
I mean, Like it's there. There's legitimate conspiracy theories, and
1378
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:54.639
you have people like Phil Schneider who was a military
1379
01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:57.800
personnel and his father was in the military and he
1380
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.239
died mysteriously of a heart attack at a weird random time,
1381
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:03.119
just like you know, we got William Cooper and some
1382
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:06.559
of these other characters, and he supposedly went to underground base,
1383
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.960
was very credible, how it was sane, and said that
1384
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:12.440
he saw creatures and they killed one of his friends
1385
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.639
and the military. I think the military didn't know, but
1386
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:17.800
the government knew that they were. What they were digging
1387
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:20.360
on onto was like they're all were creating these underground
1388
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:22.519
bases for the military, but they were actually digging into
1389
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.320
an alien underground base and there was creatures down there
1390
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:28.119
that he saw that like psychically like shot his friend
1391
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:31.400
with this laser beam thing and he was missing fingers
1392
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.480
because one of them hit his hand and like stuff
1393
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:36.679
like that. Like you cannot people cannot believe it. But
1394
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:38.239
there's been a lot of people on this earth that
1395
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.159
have had weird experiences like that. So if you're interested
1396
01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:45.719
by that strangely podcast, but I don't know the uptill
1397
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.039
anything was Like I was like, of course, man, that's
1398
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:52.199
a weird connection that. You know, if at some point
1399
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:54.239
we could cover this on my show, because there is
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01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.519
this if we wanted to at some point go towards
1401
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.679
breaking down symbolism movies, I bet you I could find
1402
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.360
a time to do with this movie of the occult
1403
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.880
kind of symbolism and rituals and stuff like that that
1404
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:10.199
they do throughout Hollywood. You know, a little a little
1405
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:13.559
what they call that we go look a little tinfoil hattie.
1406
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:16.159
But you know, it's quite possible.
1407
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:20.639
You know, I did right tong as well. Actually that
1408
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:24.480
the final battle between them I thought was really gory
1409
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.039
and quite good. And I did like the way then
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01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:28.960
he had one line and just said welcome.
1411
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:33.000
Yeah, finally he talks and they cut out his tongue,
1412
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:37.440
so he's I guess, like you're a servant of these creatures.
1413
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.920
When it seems like it's over, the train driver appears,
1414
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:47.639
rips out his tongue, explains the backstory of what was
1415
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:50.639
truly going on here, stabbing mya and ripping out her
1416
01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:54.679
beating heart, telling Leon now serve as we all do
1417
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:59.000
without question. Yeah, I thought was kind of another cool touch.
1418
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:03.440
The conductor as his as she would be called, the
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01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:06.360
character was pretty good and like kind of like creepy
1420
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:08.840
and just like eating mysterious, you know.
1421
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:14.800
And then I did like, actually that tie back so
1422
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:16.360
like at the very end, and it shows us that
1423
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:18.920
the open kill at the very start of the movie
1424
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:23.880
was actually Leon all along. Yeah, and then he turns
1425
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.119
and faces the camera and has a really cool soundtrack,
1426
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:29.519
a really cool song that comes on. So that was supposed
1427
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:30.920
to be the whole point. That clip you see at the
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01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:36.079
start was actually him doing his first kill, which is
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01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.039
why it was supposed to be so sloppy and whatever. Yeah,
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01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.960
Clive and and the director said that they were really
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01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.679
proud of the movie, and they were more thankful for
1432
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:51.519
the horror community afterwards supporting it because like all that
1433
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:53.159
other shit that went on with it. They were like,
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if we didn't have the horror community, like nobody would
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have ever even heard of this movie.
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Like ever, which is disappointing, you know.
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Yeah. Like I said that the special features on the
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DVD were good as well. There was that thing about
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Clive Barker was just inside his house his painting studio.
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I thought that was quite fascinating and interesting. There's a
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feature right on Mahogany's character. You have the prop master
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talking about his weapons and like the design of the
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bag and all that stuff, Like they really taught out
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a lot of stuff that didn't really come across on screen.
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Then they have the anatomy of a murder scene, which
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is ted Raimi's death, and there's like interviews with him,
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and then they have like the the director, the screenwriter
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and stuff, and they're just like general kind of behind
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the scenes stuff. Man I did also write down as
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well that the soundtrack for this movie is really good.
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If you haven't listened to it, it's actually like a
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really I do you have.
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Carpel title, Man, I have like pretty bad carple title
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like at times, and like you write out all your
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notes where I did at the beginning of Strange.
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Print, I print of stuff right, and then I have
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blank pages and as I'm watching it, I'm like trying
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to scribble down. But I definitely I suffer big time.
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Yeah with that, So I can't do that anymore. At
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the beginning of Strange Brew, I would write in a
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notebook and I would like look up like mysteries and
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01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.720
write it. And it was just like the sloppy writing
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when we're like, you know, and then we're drinking talking
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01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:16.159
about it, I'm like, I can't do this.
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But like there's sometimes when I'm trying to read this
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that I can't read it back because I'm like it's
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hardened me. So I'm literally just going like it's like.
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01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:24.960
Dude, you should like when I was doing like you know,
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01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:27.039
when I like, I've been doing music for a long time,
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but a lot of the songs, especially years ago, I
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wrote when I was drunk, because like when I when
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I'm drinking, I don't know, like it can it sounds weird,
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01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:37.439
but if I find that good medium. A lot of
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artists can like you can't be too drunk, you gotta
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01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:41.640
be buzzed. Me and Billy have done it where we
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01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:46.319
would do freestyles. I could actually be better at freestyling
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and like having things come up top of my head
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01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:51.760
when I'm just a little buzzed, not too drunk, but
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01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:54.239
not too sober. So I wrote a lot of my
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songs like intoxicated or close to it, and even I
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01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.039
wrote one I had a couple beers last night because
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01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:02.439
I'm like, this is coming to the end of the
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01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:03.720
road of me being able to do that. And I
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01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:05.560
finished the song and I actually really like it. But
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01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:09.119
a lot of those, like beginning songs I was doing,
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it was just scribbled on the page and I have
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01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:13.640
to like try to like, Okay, this is what I
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01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.039
was writing, because it's just so like I can read
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01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:18.960
my own writing, because I was so used to writing
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01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:21.479
like that and having to read it back for doing
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01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:24.319
like music. But if I gave that book to anybody else,
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01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:26.880
they would not be able to read it. And it's
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01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:29.920
interesting that like when I was I dropped that at school,
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01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:32.840
started working and then went back to finish. I actually
1495
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.800
applied myself and did fairly well, but it was funny
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01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:38.520
that one of the buddies there was me and this
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01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:41.920
dude to Miko, and he was he was a hip
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01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.479
hop artist too, a little more like Gangstraby's Black and Shit,
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01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:48.119
and so I was a little more like conscious rap
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01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:51.880
whatever they call that. And the teacher was like talking
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01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:55.479
about how me and his writing were difficult to read,
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01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.199
and my buddy Lee was like, it's hilarious that that
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01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.880
both of them are and you can't read the writing.
1504
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:05.760
It's like typical, right, but like it's so funny to
1505
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:07.640
see like some of my old books or I'm like,
1506
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:08.960
how the fuck did I even read this?
1507
01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:12.199
I know, That's how I feel like I i'd say
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01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:13.720
if I was to look because I keep all the
1509
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.239
notes just in like a like a folder thing, and
1510
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:17.720
I'm like, maybe in years to on my look back
1511
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.359
on them and like be able to remember things and
1512
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:21.560
be like, oh I remember that, And I'm like, I
1513
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:22.880
don't even know if I'll be able to read that
1514
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:23.800
ship in like ten years.
1515
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.640
It was so funny, like are kids reading Like what
1516
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:29.479
the fuck was wrong with them? You know that? You know?
1517
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:32.039
Because I was thinking about this and I was like yeah,
1518
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:34.720
and I'm there going like my kid will probably look
1519
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:36.319
at that goal you read her.
1520
01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:40.760
Are you mentally sound right now? Like you know, maybe
1521
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:42.479
horror movies don't even exist. Maybe we live in a
1522
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.079
totally different world. Were things under a digital lockdown? You have?
1523
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.600
Just like, look at these notes about these things we
1524
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:49.399
used to watch called horror movies.
1525
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.720
I seen something today actually before we before we finish
1526
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:56.560
this episode, just like talking about what you're talking about,
1527
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:59.119
like a digital prison kind of thing. I remember where
1528
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:00.479
it was, but I seen something. I don't know if
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01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:02.520
I was on TikTok or somewhere. It was obviously just
1530
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:06.239
like a not an AI clip, but like some fake thing.
1531
01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:08.600
But it was like some woman who gets on like
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01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:11.119
the like the subway or something she must have to
1533
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:12.439
take the train to work every day, is like the
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01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:15.840
premise of this advertisement or whatever it was supposed to be.
1535
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.079
And she's like it kind of is like an infomercial thing.
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01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:20.880
She's like, oh, I used to hate my two hour
1537
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.560
daily train commute to work every day, but now with
1538
01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:26.399
my fucking I don't know what she called it, she
1539
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.279
was like, now with my fucking whatever, I just plug
1540
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:31.840
it into my head and I love my two hour journey.
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01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:33.680
And she puts this thing on the side of her head, right,
1542
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:37.119
and her eyes just like glades over and turn white.
1543
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:39.760
And she's just like sitting on the train like this,
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01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:42.960
and like I'm assuming there's like obviously something going on
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01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:44.920
in her brain, like she thinks she's doing something else.
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01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.840
And then when it turns off, like she's at her
1547
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.640
destination and it pans out and like everybody else on
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01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:53.039
the train is also going and like like that, and
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01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:54.520
I'm like, wow, that's fucking scary.
1550
01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:57.359
Look at like sever it like I'm dying. So if
1551
01:12:57.359 --> 01:12:59.199
you ever want to talk about that stuff, like.
1552
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:00.600
Oh yeah, I'm already finished.
1553
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.640
There's a lot of cult symbolism and that stuff accult similar.
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01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:06.520
It's weird, man, is that where we're like headed? You know?
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01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:10.000
That's I'm like, all these things were stepping stones for
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01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.920
where we're going, but that's for my show. So I
1557
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:15.159
enjoyed this, like it was fun to do. We have
1558
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:17.119
a lot of ideas. We need to finish up some
1559
01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.680
of the stuff that I already watched because it's gonna
1560
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.359
fly out of my head with the amount of research
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01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:23.720
that we do. So but this was I, you know,
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01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:28.279
out of ten meat hooks, I'll give it like a
1563
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:29.640
good like seven point five.
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01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.600
Yeah, I think that's a fairly I was going to
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01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:34.600
say around to seven. I think it's a fairly uh.
1566
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:36.680
Yeah, six point five seven, Like you know, based on
1567
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.159
like how often you watch it or whatever, but like, uh,
1568
01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:42.680
it's it's kind of like a kind of artsy movie
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01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:44.720
in my opinion, you know, it's kind of like that,
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01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:47.560
like worse.
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01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:52.119
But yeah, it wasn't the worst. But yeah, if you
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01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:55.119
did enjoy to everybody, make sure to always leave a
1573
01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:58.760
like rate, follow share anything like that. It helps us
1574
01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.159
more than you can imagine. Yeah, and you can check
1575
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:04.840
out all my stuff on classharrorcast dot com or find
1576
01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:07.119
me on Class horror Cast. On Instagram is probably where
1577
01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:10.279
I'm most active on social media, And like Tom said,
1578
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.840
I follow about our rumblets more so mine because for
1579
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:14.920
some reason people just don't like to follow me.
1580
01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:17.760
Well we're getting we talk about controversial stuff online. That's
1581
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:21.279
where our our one episode that we did has gotten
1582
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:25.560
has done very well. There's some very controversial topics that
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01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:28.560
we've covered that people are like really enjoying on there.
1584
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:29.760
So that's good.
1585
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:35.319
I have to this point, I have made two cent
1586
01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.680
on rumble that's quite good.
1587
01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:39.800
Yeah, it's fine. I've only made like forty year bucks
1588
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:42.880
or something like that. And let's sit there. You know,
1589
01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:45.239
that's why I gotta support the show is because you realize,
1590
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.960
like this, this costs us to make and produce and
1591
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:50.920
stuff like that more than you think it does. A
1592
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:52.680
lot of people like, oh, they're just like recording and
1593
01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:55.239
now it's you have to spend money to do these things.
1594
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:56.399
Yep, be sure to do.
1595
01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:59.119
And I can't be monetized on fucking YouTube because it's
1596
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:02.800
dangerous and common controversial according to them. Fuck yourself.
1597
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:06.840
I won't say that, Tom, just nice people. I haven't
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01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:07.520
been banged jest.
1599
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:10.479
Yeah, I haven't been compared to the stuff that I
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01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.720
don't crossing fingers, all the stuff that we've covered, I'm
1601
01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:17.560
surprised what they've allowed. But you know, let's just keep
1602
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:19.520
it that at least they're keeping it up too much.
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01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.319
At least keeping it up. Thank you YouTube for being
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01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:24.199
so fucking censored.
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01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:27.359
Thank you YouTube for being so great. We love YouTube
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01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:31.159
so much. YouTube. Do not demanetize my channel or my videos. Please,
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01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:36.000
I love you so much. Yes, please us, Please help me.
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01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:39.439
I can't afford to run the show anymore. Please help me.
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01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:43.479
But yeah, we appreciate everybody. We hope you enjoyed this episode.
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01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:45.039
Let us know if you've seen the movie, what you
1611
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.399
thought about it, and if you have any suggestions for
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01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:49.359
future episodes, we would love to hear them as well.
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And yeah, we'll see everybody real soon in the next one. Peace.
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Thanks for listening to another episode of Class Horrorcast. Stop
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