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Jennifer Reif: You are listening to the
Breaktime Tech Talks podcast, a bite-sized
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tech podcast for busy developers where
we'll briefly cover technical topics, news
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snippets, and more in short time blocks.
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I'm your host, Jennifer Reif, an
avid developer and problem solver
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with special interest in data,
learning, and all things technology
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I did an absolute ton of writing
this week through the book
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and through some blog posts.
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I did get a bit of a breather midweek,
which I will talk about, and then
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got right back into making progress.
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I'll talk about blog post updates and
other weekly updates, which include
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some upcoming podcast guests as well.
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Starting off the weekly updates,
we have the Java book again, right?
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I've had progress on this
the last several months.
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I've been working really hard on it
this summer and have a deadline that
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is upcoming at the end of the summer,
and I made some really good strides
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this week, wrapping up another chapter
and starting a new one as well.
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I actually got ahead a bit by finishing
the chapter up a day early, and then
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it didn't take me very long to outline
the next chapter, so then that let
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me get even just a bit further ahead.
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After that, I felt like I needed a bit
of a breather, so I tackled some small
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tasks and some catch-up work that I
was behind on and enjoyed a quieter
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afternoon, which was really nice.
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Then I charged right back in on the
next chapter starting the next day.
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The beginning of a new chapter is
always tough to start and to set the
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stage and the background properly, so I
didn't quite hit my page count yesterday
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for what I was hoping to achieve and
what I have scheduled out, but I know
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that I'll make that time up once the
content starts flowing really well.
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And I am still just a bit ahead,
so I'm hoping to maintain that
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lead on into the next few weeks and
maybe give myself another breathing
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opportunity here in a week or two.
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Another set of progress that I made
was posting a blog post to DZone.
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I haven't done this in a long
while, actually, I think since
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last fall, and I was really excited
to produce something else and put
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something else together for that.
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Again, I love, really love writing
technical blogs, and I wrote
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one on the agents architecture
that I've been talking about.
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This is based on the session that
I'm really enjoying giving this
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year, and I wanted a blog post
format for that, probably over a few
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installments, so maybe three or four
posts that I hope will be coming.
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I've got the first post out that just
sets up the architecture and talks a
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little bit about setting the stage and
the background and just a bit of a high
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level about the project, and then the
next few blog posts will go into more
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detail on the different layers that
we stack up throughout the project.
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So I hope a new one will be coming soon.
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Then I also discovered that a colleague
wrote a blog post and published
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it to DZone as well on Spring AI,
Neo4j, and the Goodreads dataset.
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This is from Akmal Chaudhry,
who's on my team, and he spoke
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at the London Java Community, or
the LJC, a couple of weeks ago.
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And in preparation of-- for that, he
was working on some Java things, and
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I pointed him to my Goodreads project
that is available on GitHub, and he
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took that and ran with that and put
together a really nice presentation
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and spoke there, and then wanted to put
together a blog post to follow that up.
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And so he published that this week also
on DZone, which I was super excited about.
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So you can hear somebody else's
perspective on using Neo4j and Java,
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and I read through the blog post.
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It's called GraphRAG in Practice: Using
Spring AI, Neo4j, and Goodreads Data.
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This is a nice walkthrough of setting
up the project and getting it running,
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including the data import steps to
set up your own copy of the data
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and then continue on from there.
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Definitely check that out if you're
interested in hearing about those topics.
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It was a really nice post, and again,
super excited to have, somebody else
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jumping in on th- these topics as well.
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Then I also have some meetup
group tours that are coming up.
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I have probably mentioned this
in past, podcast episodes.
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I have some Florida groups
that are coming in November.
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I have North Carolina groups
that are occurring in September.
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I will give all the details out once we
finalize organizing those, so I'm just
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assembling those details and figuring out
what the schedule will look like, and then
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I'll publish more information as I go on.
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Plus, I also have a virtual user group
presentation in a couple of weeks for
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the Miami JUG, or Java User Group.
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That event link I will leave in
the show notes here in this podcast
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episode 'cause that is coming up
here shortly, and it should be a
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really fun, interesting session.
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We're talking about GraphRAG
and RAG and the introduction
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to the AI industry and field.
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If you're interested in attending
that, definitely check out
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the meetup link and RSVP.
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Again, that will be virtual and
occurring at the end of July.
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Then I also have some podcast guests
that are starting to get lined
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up for the next, well, few weeks.
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I know I have at least one that is lined
up next month, and I'm really enjoying
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chatting with a few different people
and hearing different perspectives on
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different technologies and projects
that are going on in the space.
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I've been contacted by a few people
that I just never anticipated having
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the collaboration with, and I'm
super excited to hear their story
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and get their perspectives on this.
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So stay tuned for some more fun
content coming up in this podcast.
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The content piece that I read this week
is called Developer Relations After
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the Cheat Code Machine by Sunil Pai.
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I really enjoyed this take.
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I found myself navigating the changing
landscape as people learn in different
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ways and need different things.
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We're all trying to figure out
where things are going, right?
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And how to best help people and educate
people along the way, and that's really
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what developer advocacy has been focusing
on, or that's what I try to focus on
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in developer advocacy, and the author
goes into some of the details here.
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The author talks about his background
with learning via osmosis by watching
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colleagues work and operate, the
way his colleague, one colleague
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in particular, worked her job.
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I know my own experience actually
somewhat mirrors this too.
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My first job, I would sit at one of
my mentor's cubicles and work through
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problems over his shoulder, understanding
the different code bases and the processes
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and who to contact for what things.
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And Sunil, the author of this post,
points out that there have been multiple
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changes since then, since his entry
into the, the field and his initial
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learnings, bringing both negatives and
positives, as most everything does.
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But the AI era has definitely
shifted what people want.
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The author also mentioned
that the watch me work content
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seems to be more popular now.
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I find this a bit strange personally,
but I definitely see how this mirrors
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the over-the-shoulder learning that we
used to naturally do in an office with
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handwritten code and implicit business
knowledge, things that we would just
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soak up from our colleagues and being
around and watching them work that no
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longer really works in a, a remote work
type setting, at least not as well.
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And so one way to go about getting
that is through watching people
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work virtually via YouTube channels
or videos that they publish.
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It also mirrors the general YouTube
trend that I've seen of day in the life
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videos or get ready with me content,
which I've seen crop up quite a bit just
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in general spaces outside of technology.
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It's still not my favorite content,
mostly because I want that type of content
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digested into succinct action items that
I can apply in a fraction of the time.
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I don't really want to watch somebody
work over the course of two hours.
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I would rather get snippets and highlights
of the way that they work and the things
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that they do in five or ten minutes maybe,
and then I can start applying those.
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The perspective that I really loved
in this blog post, though, is that
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technical folks aren't trying to learn
code, but instead they're trying to
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learn all of the implicit knowledge of
how humans work, operate, or respond
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to different professional situations.
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It's the understanding, the modeling
of a domain, the communicating needs
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and requirements amongst teammates and
tools, and working through debugging
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or problem-solving activities.
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All of that is very vi- visible in this
type of watch me work type of content.
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Now, these things cannot be learned,
at least easily, in other formats like
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written formats, audio, et cetera,
and they can't, at least currently, be
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replicated by AI and software tools.
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So people are turning to human-created
content to learn and focus upon these
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particular skills and others as well.
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I'd like to make the point that
these skills were always important,
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but what has changed is the effort
dedicated to learning them and
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where our environment doesn't
naturally allow us to soak them up.
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The author closes with DevRel was always
trying to do these things, but now we
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have to format them in a different way
and go about them from a different angle.
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This week, after getting ahead on my
writing for the book, I was able to
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accomplish some other backlog tasks,
including a new blog post on DZone,
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alongside a colleague's new post
with Java and Neo4j also on DZone.
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Finally, I read a good article on how
developers are learning from others
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around them in new ways and how that is
impacting the developer relations role.
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I'm looking forward to having
you join me on another episode.
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As always, thanks for
listening and happy coding
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Jennifer Reif: You are listening to the
Breaktime Tech Talks podcast, a bite-sized
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tech podcast for busy developers where
we'll briefly cover technical topics, news
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snippets, and more in short time blocks.
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I'm your host, Jennifer Reif, an
avid developer and problem solver
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00:00:20,149 --> 00:00:24,100
with special interest in data,
learning, and all things technology
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I did an absolute ton of writing
this week through the book
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and through some blog posts.
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I did get a bit of a breather midweek,
which I will talk about, and then
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got right back into making progress.
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I'll talk about blog post updates and
other weekly updates, which include
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some upcoming podcast guests as well.
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Starting off the weekly updates,
we have the Java book again, right?
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I've had progress on this
the last several months.
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I've been working really hard on it
this summer and have a deadline that
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is upcoming at the end of the summer,
and I made some really good strides
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this week, wrapping up another chapter
and starting a new one as well.
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I actually got ahead a bit by finishing
the chapter up a day early, and then
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it didn't take me very long to outline
the next chapter, so then that let
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me get even just a bit further ahead.
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After that, I felt like I needed a bit
of a breather, so I tackled some small
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tasks and some catch-up work that I
was behind on and enjoyed a quieter
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afternoon, which was really nice.
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Then I charged right back in on the
next chapter starting the next day.
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The beginning of a new chapter is
always tough to start and to set the
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stage and the background properly, so I
didn't quite hit my page count yesterday
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for what I was hoping to achieve and
what I have scheduled out, but I know
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that I'll make that time up once the
content starts flowing really well.
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And I am still just a bit ahead,
so I'm hoping to maintain that
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lead on into the next few weeks and
maybe give myself another breathing
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opportunity here in a week or two.
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Another set of progress that I made
was posting a blog post to DZone.
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I haven't done this in a long
while, actually, I think since
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last fall, and I was really excited
to produce something else and put
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something else together for that.
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Again, I love, really love writing
technical blogs, and I wrote
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one on the agents architecture
that I've been talking about.
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This is based on the session that
I'm really enjoying giving this
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year, and I wanted a blog post
format for that, probably over a few
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installments, so maybe three or four
posts that I hope will be coming.
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I've got the first post out that just
sets up the architecture and talks a
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little bit about setting the stage and
the background and just a bit of a high
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level about the project, and then the
next few blog posts will go into more
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detail on the different layers that
we stack up throughout the project.
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So I hope a new one will be coming soon.
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Then I also discovered that a colleague
wrote a blog post and published
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it to DZone as well on Spring AI,
Neo4j, and the Goodreads dataset.
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This is from Akmal Chaudhry,
who's on my team, and he spoke
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at the London Java Community, or
the LJC, a couple of weeks ago.
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And in preparation of-- for that, he
was working on some Java things, and
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I pointed him to my Goodreads project
that is available on GitHub, and he
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took that and ran with that and put
together a really nice presentation
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and spoke there, and then wanted to put
together a blog post to follow that up.
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And so he published that this week also
on DZone, which I was super excited about.
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So you can hear somebody else's
perspective on using Neo4j and Java,
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and I read through the blog post.
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It's called GraphRAG in Practice: Using
Spring AI, Neo4j, and Goodreads Data.
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This is a nice walkthrough of setting
up the project and getting it running,
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including the data import steps to
set up your own copy of the data
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and then continue on from there.
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Definitely check that out if you're
interested in hearing about those topics.
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It was a really nice post, and again,
super excited to have, somebody else
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jumping in on th- these topics as well.
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Then I also have some meetup
group tours that are coming up.
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I have probably mentioned this
in past, podcast episodes.
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I have some Florida groups
that are coming in November.
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I have North Carolina groups
that are occurring in September.
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I will give all the details out once we
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assembling those details and figuring out
what the schedule will look like, and then
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I'll publish more information as I go on.
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Plus, I also have a virtual user group
presentation in a couple of weeks for
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the Miami JUG, or Java User Group.
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That event link I will leave in
the show notes here in this podcast
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episode 'cause that is coming up
here shortly, and it should be a
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really fun, interesting session.
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We're talking about GraphRAG
and RAG and the introduction
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to the AI industry and field.
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If you're interested in attending
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the meetup link and RSVP.
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Again, that will be virtual and
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Then I also have some podcast guests
that are starting to get lined
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up for the next, well, few weeks.
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I know I have at least one that is lined
up next month, and I'm really enjoying
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chatting with a few different people
and hearing different perspectives on
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different technologies and projects
that are going on in the space.
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I've been contacted by a few people
that I just never anticipated having
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the collaboration with, and I'm
super excited to hear their story
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and get their perspectives on this.
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So stay tuned for some more fun
content coming up in this podcast.
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The content piece that I read this week
is called Developer Relations After
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the Cheat Code Machine by Sunil Pai.
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I really enjoyed this take.
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I found myself navigating the changing
landscape as people learn in different
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ways and need different things.
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We're all trying to figure out
where things are going, right?
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And how to best help people and educate
people along the way, and that's really
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what developer advocacy has been focusing
on, or that's what I try to focus on
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in developer advocacy, and the author
goes into some of the details here.
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The author talks about his background
with learning via osmosis by watching
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colleagues work and operate, the
way his colleague, one colleague
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in particular, worked her job.
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I know my own experience actually
somewhat mirrors this too.
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My first job, I would sit at one of
my mentor's cubicles and work through
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problems over his shoulder, understanding
the different code bases and the processes
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and who to contact for what things.
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And Sunil, the author of this post,
points out that there have been multiple
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changes since then, since his entry
into the, the field and his initial
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learnings, bringing both negatives and
positives, as most everything does.
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But the AI era has definitely
shifted what people want.
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The author also mentioned
that the watch me work content
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seems to be more popular now.
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I find this a bit strange personally,
but I definitely see how this mirrors
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the over-the-shoulder learning that we
used to naturally do in an office with
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handwritten code and implicit business
knowledge, things that we would just
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soak up from our colleagues and being
around and watching them work that no
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longer really works in a, a remote work
type setting, at least not as well.
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And so one way to go about getting
that is through watching people
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work virtually via YouTube channels
or videos that they publish.
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It also mirrors the general YouTube
trend that I've seen of day in the life
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videos or get ready with me content,
which I've seen crop up quite a bit just
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in general spaces outside of technology.
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It's still not my favorite content,
mostly because I want that type of content
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digested into succinct action items that
I can apply in a fraction of the time.
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I don't really want to watch somebody
work over the course of two hours.
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I would rather get snippets and highlights
of the way that they work and the things
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that they do in five or ten minutes maybe,
and then I can start applying those.
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The perspective that I really loved
in this blog post, though, is that
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technical folks aren't trying to learn
code, but instead they're trying to
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learn all of the implicit knowledge of
how humans work, operate, or respond
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to different professional situations.
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It's the understanding, the modeling
of a domain, the communicating needs
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and requirements amongst teammates and
tools, and working through debugging
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or problem-solving activities.
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All of that is very vi- visible in this
type of watch me work type of content.
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Now, these things cannot be learned,
at least easily, in other formats like
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written formats, audio, et cetera,
and they can't, at least currently, be
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replicated by AI and software tools.
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So people are turning to human-created
content to learn and focus upon these
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particular skills and others as well.
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I'd like to make the point that
these skills were always important,
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but what has changed is the effort
dedicated to learning them and
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where our environment doesn't
naturally allow us to soak them up.
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The author closes with DevRel was always
trying to do these things, but now we
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have to format them in a different way
and go about them from a different angle.
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This week, after getting ahead on my
writing for the book, I was able to
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accomplish some other backlog tasks,
including a new blog post on DZone,
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alongside a colleague's new post
with Java and Neo4j also on DZone.
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Finally, I read a good article on how
developers are learning from others
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around them in new ways and how that is
impacting the developer relations role.
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I'm looking forward to having
you join me on another episode.
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As always, thanks for
listening and happy coding
