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Okay all righty there campers welcome to another episode of
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bad press uh joined uh as sometimes always by co-host
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trevor trevor how you doing buddy.
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I'm glad to be here sometimes always.
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Sometimes always you know that's that's all we can ask for.
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A hundred percent of the time i'm here sometimes.
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Yeah sixty percent of the time what can you name
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that movie That is Anchorman.
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60% of the time, it works every time.
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The Panther cologne. What's it called? Sex Panther?
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Sex Panther, that's right.
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That's right, that's right. Yes, classic movie. I miss movies
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like that. Anyway, so what's new, man?
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Not too much. I've been super, super busy. Nothing is
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new with that.
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Everybody's busy, dude. The elites are just trying to keep
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us busy to keep us down.
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Yeah, I don't know. I do it to myself. I
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think the elites are definitely getting me.
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No, it's the elites. It's the elites. For sure.
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The elites are definitely getting me.
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They're keeping me in my little tradesman job. But then
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I also keep signing up for extra obligations. And for
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some reason, I just love the staying up for 18
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hours at a time.
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You know?
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You know, somebody's got to do it and it's not
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going to be me. So somebody's got to work 18
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hours straight. It's actually kind of pertinent to our topic
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tonight that I hope you think is interesting. I'm bringing
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random stuff to the show. This is not that well premeditated,
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but I, dude, I think it's a fascinating topic. So
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I don't know. Hopefully people agree. And that is the
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confluence of AI, governments, massive capital pools, and commercial space.
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So I think it'll be cool. We'll see. But do
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you have any like thoughts or interest or insights into
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commercial space programs, commercial space exploration? What's your like, familiarity
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with the topic?
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Uh, I mean, my familiarity with the topic is basically,
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it just seems like, so, okay. Commercial are talking about
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for like passenger flights into space. Are we talking about
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commercial exploitation of like mining?
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Commercial would just mean, um, private or public, uh, companies
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corporations doing things in space not you know not nasa
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or you know esa or the japan space agency building
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rockets but like private generally american companies are it's like
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a there's a lot going on i'm just curious before
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i launch in like are you super are you familiar
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with these companies and what they're doing or not really
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it will help.
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I knew of i mean obviously i SpaceX. I know
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Elon Musk. I know Bezos.
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Is it blue sky?
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Blue origin. Yeah. Blue origin.
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Uh, and I know that there were a couple other,
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is it, is a Bigelow one?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Bigelow. Yeah.
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He's kind of small. He's kind of small potatoes. Uh,
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just in terms of money, like market cap, but yeah,
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but yes, he's in there. Bigelow aerospace.
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That's what, in Bigelow aerospace, that was just a whole
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rabbit hole that I went down with. Um, do you
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know anything about, sorry to, already taken please please but
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do you know anything about um all sap it was
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like the government program awsap and they were.
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I know he's deep into it i know he owned
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skinwalker ranch or maybe still does i know he yeah
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he's in this you know he's in the shit so
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to speak yeah.
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Yeah it was and he was in he was in
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it with uh harry reed um yes senator from nevada
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and there was all sorts of interesting stuff but there's
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uh The podcast run by Corbell and George Knapp, and
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they always have James Lekatsky on as this guy who
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worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency, and they tell this
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story about all that. But anyways, it was a whole
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rabbit hole. I went down that rabbit hole. So I
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know about Bigelow, Bezos, Musk. And I know that there's like,
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I know there's one or two others.
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That I'm not super familiar with.
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I don't know what they're doing. There's quite a few.
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They do interesting stuff. I mean, there's one I'm really
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interested in called Rocket Lab. And then there's one called Firefly.
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They landed a lander on the moon last year. And yeah,
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there's Blue Origin. Anyway, so these companies are interesting. I
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think really the only one that has a public interest
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is SpaceX because of Elon. Elon is a very high
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profile person. So I mean, we're going to be talking
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about a lot of different things tonight and they sort
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of all come together and what I would sort of
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propose as like a grand unifying theory that I will
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offer and predict and we'll see if I'm right in
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10 years. But Elon plays a big part in all this.
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So I thought maybe we'd just start by talking about
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him a little bit. So people have strong opinions about him.
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I became fascinated by him in the early days after
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he got out of PayPal with $ 30 million or whatever
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it was. And he started Tesla. He started solar city.
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He started SpaceX. And he seemed to me like, like
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a Barnum Bailey kind of guy, like he, or like
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almost like a Tesla, actually, maybe people will view that
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as a compliment. I don't necessarily mean it as a compliment.
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I mean, like he was the master of spectacle of hype.
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Like he's, he's got a weird speech pattern that people
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interpret as, you know, he's a genius. And he is.
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And he tells you, he paints this picture of the
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Star Trek future and people believe him. People at Sequoia
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Capital believe him. People at these big hedge funds and
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big venture capital and private equity firms, they believe him.
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And most people think he's crazy, but he's got the
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perfect blend of dreaming out loud, political savvy, and delivering
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on some promises. Like if, like, For example, if you
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would have said 20 years ago that the biggest car
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manufacturer in the world would be an American electric car company,
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people would have laughed in your face. Imagine saying that
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in the 90s or the 2000s. First of all, the
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idea of just an electric car company was ridiculous. But
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the idea of an American electric car company being the
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biggest car company in the world... By a huge margin.
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People wouldn't believe that. So he has delivered on some promises, right? Anyway,
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so now when he says things like we're going to
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launch 30 super heavy stars, Starship super heavies a day,
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we're going to, you know, build a colony on Mars.
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We're going to put data centers in space. Surprisingly, even
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though the public, I would say, probably doesn't believe it, surprisingly,
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the money believes him. And so it's been really interesting
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to follow him. Fascinating rise. And he just IPO'd a
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$ 2 trillion company. And so he now has $ 2 trillion
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of cash to spend. So I want to kind of
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go over that and what he plans to do with
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it in his unholy with AI companies. But first I
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thought maybe, you know, I need to tie AI into this.
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So to do so, let me just give you a
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little update on AI. Token Max. Oops. From Sam Altman.
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And so for people who don't know, Sam Altman, I'm
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rambling because David left, just so you guys know. Normally
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I would pause to talk to him, but he was gone.
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So that's why I kept talking.
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So I heard my son going, dad-ass, dad-ass.
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Are we a couple of dads with our sons at home?
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Because my wife's and daughter are gone.
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Well, I put him, so I'm two hours ahead of you.
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So I put him to bed.
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Yeah, I'm just being a deadbeat father. My son is
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watching a movie right next to me. He's awake.
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Yeah, well, I mean, it's not like I would. Me
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and Al aren't watching movies together.
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He's not in a hot car right now. He's in
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the home with me. So anyway, I was just talking
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about Elon, how his company just went public. They now
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have $ 2 trillion in cash. Massively successful IPO. Like most IPOs,
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huge pump and dump. All the smart money got all
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their cash. All the dumb money lost all their money.
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But that always happens. And now SpaceX is sitting at
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about $ 140 a share, claiming that they could become a
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$ 10 trillion company in the next few years. So the
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question is how? How is that possible? How is it
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that a company that doesn't make any profit already is
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one of the largest companies in the world by market
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cap on its way to be the biggest? And for
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folks who don't know, the biggest company in the world
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is NVIDIA. It has a $ 5 trillion market cap. which
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is insane. Higher now because they just had blockbuster earnings.
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This is going to be kind of a finance-y show. Sorry.
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This is another passion of mine. I'm very into day trading,
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so forgive me. But anyway, so there's all these commercial
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space companies. Some of them are incredible. I think Rocket
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Lab's amazing. Elon Musk is currently suing them. Anyway, so
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there's all these companies. How is Musk going to justify
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this kind of valuation now that there are companies that
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can do the same thing that he does? Not as good,
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not at big of a scale, but there are companies
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that can reliably access space now. You want to go
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to the moon, you want to go to Mars, you
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want to go to low Earth orbit, companies can do
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it for you for pretty cheap, surprisingly cheap. So his
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initial pitch was reusability. that they can build spaceships that
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are basically like aircraft, you know, and therefore are very
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cheap to operate. You just pay for gas and maintenance.
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You don't throw the rocket away when you're done with it.
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But then now other companies are starting to be able
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to do that too. So we kind of needed a
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differentiator and there is, you know, I've kind of already
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alluded to this, but there are two things that Musk
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is exceptional at. One is leveraging government. He knows how
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to turn taxpayer money into a business that he owns. SolarCity,
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great example. Tesla, millions, many, many millions, maybe billions of
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dollars in tax credits for electric vehicles and batteries. SpaceX,
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it's the largest recipient of NASA contracts in the country.
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So he knows how to turn taxpayer money into businesses.
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His second skill is hype. He knows how to sell
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a vision. And so he managed to leverage his vision
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of a colony on Mars and thousands of ships launching
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every day for the IPO. And he got $ 2 trillion.
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Now he needs to turn it into 10. And there's
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only one place you can get that kind of multiple.
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There's only one sector that people are that excited about today.
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And it is AI. AI. So SpaceX is very much
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now an AI company. And so transitioning to AI, I'll
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play a clip. This is, I would say, a very
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pro AI clip to start us off. And then we'll
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talk about some not so pro AI clips and then
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build up to what I'm trying to pitch here. But
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do you have any thoughts or questions? You got to
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interrupt me or I'll just keep. spewing.
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That's super interesting.
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I know nothing of the finance element of it and
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like the size of companies and those.
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Sorts of things.
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I see all sorts of headlines and I occasionally browse
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an article, but it's not a world that I inhabit frequently.
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So it's interesting.
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I mean, I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot.
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I don't know if I can add anything in terms.
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Well, I think you could represent the person who's not
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obsessed with this, which will be all of our listeners.
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So I'm sure you'll have good questions or ask for
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important points of clarification, but, but yeah, I mean, really
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Musk is the main guy and he has unlimited capital.
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Bezos also has unlimited capital, but blue origin just can't
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seem to get their shit together. I mean, they've hit
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some important milestones. They've reused rockets, but they also blow
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up on the pad. And he's in like an, in
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unholy alliances with like, defense prime contractors like Lockheed and Boeing.
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Like he's very old school. He does things the old way.
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It's just not the same. Um, so yeah, so SpaceX,
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the thing though, again, to come back to this is
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they don't make any money, but Musk is kind of,
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he's kind of brilliant. He's created a world for himself
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where he doesn't really need to because he is now
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the company of the future, and everyone wants to be
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a part of it. And nobody cares. You know, nobody
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cares if he makes money. He's very much in the
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school of Nvidia where it's like making money is not important.
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Just be kind of be too big to fail. Like
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have every billionaire in America rooting for you and you're
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going to do fine. You know, like he's building a
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hundred billion dollar space a launch facility in louisiana right
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now 30 launch pads all the activist groups come out
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the government agencies just squash them with a hammer dude
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like he knows how to leverage government um there's a
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company trying to compete with starlink right now the fcc
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just hammered them hammered them for antitrust issues because you
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know rocket lab's trying to buy a satellite company And
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it's just rich because it's like antitrust issues. Like SpaceX
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is a hundred times the size. What do you mean?
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You know, so he, he is an insider. Like I
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think people underestimate what an insider he is.
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I think, and that's what I remember.
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You mentioned obviously that, you know, origins and PayPal and
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that has been a peripheral interest to me, the PayPal
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mafia and Peter Thiel and the group that came out
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of the PayPal mafia in, I'm woefully uneducated, you know,
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right at this moment on the history of kind of
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how he has risen and kind of where he comes from.
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they come from a very interesting background. And so I'd
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be interested in looking a little bit more into that
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history and kind of approaching it from, you know, some
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of that. I mean, yeah, he comes up and I mean,
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he kind of explodes onto the scene when it, When
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would you say Elon Musk really popped?
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I would say it felt like.
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2015 for me from not knowing a ton about the industry.
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Musk really became one of those household names.
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he was more well-known.
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were talking about Elon. Yeah. He, he, it's really amazing.
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He could just be, it could just all be genuine.
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You know, I'm very open to that because I followed
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him back in the day when he was just a,
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a guy with 10 million to spend and he went
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to Russia and tried to buy a rocket ship and
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they said no. And so, because I don't know if the,
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you know, all the details like America didn't have a
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way to access the space station or even go to
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space really. Um, we were using Soyuz rockets out of Russia.
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the Cosmodrome or whatever it's called, and they would get
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on this little tin can Soyuz rocket, which the facility
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just got blown up by Ukraine, interestingly enough, but, and
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we would pay to send astronauts to space. It was
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kind of embarrassing. NASA had just kind of fallen apart.
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They were trying to be too many things to too
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many people. Elon shows up, young kid, and starts this
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company with tons of failures in the beginning. Actually interesting,
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a bunch of NASA astronauts got together with congressmen and
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they passed a bill to basically try to shut down
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commercial space. And there's this famous 60 Minutes interview with
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Elon where he's crying because the interviewer is telling him
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about like your hero. I forget the astronaut, but said
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this about you, you know, and he's just crying. It's, it's,
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it's become like this, like legendary moment and, and space stuff. Anyway.
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So he seemed like this cool guy, this outsider guy,
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but he's not some, somehow he's been able to maintain
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that image of like this rogue iron man, Tony Stark gene,
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eccentric genius, but he's as inside as inside can be.
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Like he is as much of an insider as you
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could possibly imagine. So with that, well, I was going
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to pivot to AI, but since we're talking about Musk,
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let's just stay on that topic and talk about StarMind.
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Have you heard of StarMind?
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Not heard of StarMind.
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Okay. Well, actually we got to do AI first because
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it's AI. So let's do AI first. We'll come back
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to StarMind. Do you like the name StarMind?
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Yeah. Bringing together.
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Using the star theme feels, yeah, what you're saying of,
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of an insider, it feels like a new generation, like
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there have been entrenched long enough, you know, since, you know,
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the rise of PayPal, stuff like that, you know, since
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the nineties, you know, got their foot in the door, got,
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you know, through the, the tech boom, you know, through
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the boom of the internet and navigated that.
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Made a bunch of money and got.
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Their foot in the doors but it it's like they
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are insiders but it's kind of the new generation of insiders.
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Yeah it's like new money you.
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Know yeah and it's like they're transforming you know government
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they're transforming things into their image because they now have
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the power you know they've accumulated the capital they've accumulated
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the political resources to make changes and it feels you
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know kind of like they're way waging this revolution or
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waging this sort of war against you know the old
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establishment um just to kind of still entrenched but.
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Just to kind of give more perspective on my mind
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oh sorry just to give more perspective on like how
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much the world has shifted like Maybe because you're younger,
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maybe you won't agree with this. But to me, like
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when I think of like a massive entrenched corporate interest,
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like what comes to mind? Like for me, it's like
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Lockheed Martin, Ford, you know, companies like this. But the
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market cap of Ford is $ 50 billion.
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That's smaller than Rocket Lab, an unknown space company.
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You know, Tesla. Let's do Tesla.
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Yeah, it's like we.
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One trillion.
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Are now so far along, it still feels new because
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we can remember when these changes started to happen and
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remember when these shifts started to occur and saw it
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happen in real time. It doesn't feel as entrenched because
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we saw the transition, but we've transitioned almost fully into
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this new... Into this new future, into the new world.
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It is a whole new world. Like Lockheed, a bigger company,
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$ 130 billion. SpaceX is 20 times larger than Lockheed Martin.
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20 times.
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And you've even started to see that with.
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The Department of Defense and the defense contracts that get
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handed out. I mean, obviously Lockheed is making... hand over
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fist right now with the Patriot missiles. And, you know,
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we talked a little bit about that and some of
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the weapons platforms that they have and certainly still hold
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a lot of influence and a lot of power, but
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the department of defense handing out all of this money
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to AI companies and handing it out to big tech,
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you know, that's signaling the shift. And even Lockheed has
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had to, all of the defense contractors have had to
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pivot to artificial intelligence and incorporating artificial intelligence into the
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weapons platforms and into the the jets and into all this.
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Sort of stuff.
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And so it's completely at this point dependent upon, dependent
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upon the, the tech companies that you're, you know, the
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Elon Musk's and the Sam Altman's and, you know, whoever
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else is running these NVIDIA, you know, difference like companies
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like that, you know, that Lockheed would cease to exist
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if those companies, you know, don't.
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Yeah. In essence, partner with them.
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So this would be a good time maybe to just,
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for me to do a better job explaining what this
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episode is about. So I am constantly complaining about AI.
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I'm talking about how stupid it is. I'm talking about
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how pointless it is, how we're in an AI economic bubble.
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I want to clarify my position. I think all of
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that is true, but I have a nuanced position. And
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it's basically this, that it doesn't actually matter. You know,
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it doesn't actually matter. if the powers that be decide
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this is the workhorse that we're going to base our
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economy on, then it's going to remain inflated. We're seeing
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crazy macroeconomic stuff with money printing and debt issuance. They
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will keep this up until they don't, whenever that is.
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It could be 10 years from now. I don't know.
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So I just kind of want to clarify that. But
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I was starting to think a couple of weeks ago
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that this house of cards might finally start coming to
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an end because we're starting to hear some like tepid
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remarks from the big CEOs of the AI company. So
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I thought I'd just play this little, like a, it's
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like an AI hype channel. I listen to the, I
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like to see both sides of the story there. It's
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like AI hype, YouTube channel, bunch of multimillionaires doing a YouTube.
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So what chance do we have anyway? Um, This is
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kind of their intro.
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Sam Altman went on video this week to tell the
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world that he.
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Was wrong about the impact of advancing AI. We've all
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been too ambitious on timelines, even with this incredible technology.
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He now believes it will be something slower, more like
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a rising tide. Superficial layer, I agree.
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Going one layer down though. So first it was open claw.
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Okay, that's good. You get the idea. So people are
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starting to say like, eh, maybe, maybe we overhyped this
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a little bit. And that's a weird thing for a
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CEO to say, especially a CEO that might go public someday.
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So I was really trying to figure like, why would
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he be saying this? The only thing I can think
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of is there are significant headwinds in the data center
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development space. Some of it is like municipal headwinds, like
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city council meetings. I'll play a couple of clips.
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It is known as the data center capital of the world,
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but residents who live next door to some of them say,
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They're producing noise that's not only annoying, but debilitating. Imagine
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hearing loud hums or white noise like this right here.
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So you get the idea. It's just 24 hours a day. Hell.
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Yeah.
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Actually, in my neighborhood, there's been a huge local municipal
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fight over.
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I'd have to look up the details.
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I forget which DC blocks is the name of the
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company and DC block.
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I think they're based out of Florida.
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DC blocks bought a piece of property right next to
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the Nashville zoo.
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And it's an industrial park.
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There's a railway that isn't super active, but one of
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the bigger rails, like, um, you know, rail centers in
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the city. And there's a bunch of warehouses, a bunch
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of factories that kind of back up to the zoo.
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But DC Blocks bought this property adjacent to the zoo
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and had.
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I.
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Mean, it was a private property transaction and went ahead
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with plans to build a data center. And it infuriated
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the residents in my neighborhood, me included. And there was
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this petition that was signed that got probably... near a
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million signatures, if not more than a million signatures. And
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what the city of Nashville, they had their hands tied
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a little bit because it was a private property transaction. And,
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you know, the law essentially is on the side of
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DC blocks being like in any other instance, they would
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be cleared to build, you know, this data center and
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the city of Nashville was, I'm not sure where they
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stood on it, but the mayor said that they were
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going to use eminent domain to seize the property to
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block the development. Wow. So DC Blocks is now, I believe,
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taking the city of Nashville to court over that eminent
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domain issue.
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And it raises all sorts of interesting.
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It's become a bit of a political football. I think
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the turning point recently is it seems like Republicans have
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decided like, hey... we can be the anti-AI data center guys.
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And they weren't before.
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It was the opposite.
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Now it's kind of like both parties are like, people
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hate this. This is an 80-20 issue.
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It's a very unifying.
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Everyone hates it.
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Everyone hates it. Rural people hate it. Urban populations hate it.
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No one is for this. Except for, yeah, exactly. People
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who stand to make a bunch of money by selling
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property to these places.
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There's a, there's been some, Oh, sorry.
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Oh, but yeah, it's them.
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And then it's politicians who stand to make a ton
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of money.
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There's a, there's some clips going around where like these guys,
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these people like will infiltrate city councils. Like they'll get
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like their people elected to a city council just to
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get a vote through. And then they'll like drop out
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of the city. It's pretty intense. It's like corporate espionage style. stuff.
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And if you want to have fun, just Google like city,
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which I did here, just so people get an idea,
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like city council, uh, AI chaos. And it's just thousands
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of local news stations with people just like, shame on you.
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Like you gave a $ 300 million tax break. My taxes
485
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went up 20% this year. My, my power bill doubled.
486
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I can't sleep at night. Like, how do you live
487
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with yourself? It's really, I'm actually kind of, I gotta say,
488
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I'm kind of like, had a little faith restored in
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like community, you know, like just, just regular people.
490
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And then the other, and the response to flock cameras,
491
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you know, those two things. And so I think you're
492
00:28:57.019 --> 00:28:59.940
starting to see a tipping, a bit of a tipping
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point with people getting fed up with the data centers and.
494
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They did it very sneakily. I mean, they got away with.
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Building all of these data centers and getting them past
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their city councils and getting the groundwork laid. there's already
497
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been so many data centers that have been built and
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00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.299
so many that are in progress of being built. And
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so you can't do anything about the ones.
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That have already been built.
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And so it's about, okay, well, going in the future,
502
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are we literally just going to sell the entirety of
503
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what's left of the natural resources? What's left of our
504
00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:38.609
water in the West? Are we going to hand it
505
00:29:38.690 --> 00:29:42.319
over to big data? Are we going to start, you know,
506
00:29:42.539 --> 00:29:46.339
Appalachia has this problem because it's extremely poor, you know,
507
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.519
communities and they want to do like, I remember one
508
00:29:49.579 --> 00:29:52.220
is in Southern Kentucky, right by the mammoth cave system,
509
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which is the largest cave system in the world. Huge, huge,
510
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natural resources in terms of groundwater i mean all of
511
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those underground cave systems it's one of the biggest underground
512
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river systems in the world and so they're looking to
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get access to that and they've already built a couple
514
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in that area of kentucky but that's you know one
515
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of these where i saw it's kind of you know
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00:30:14.309 --> 00:30:17.170
people flowing out of the city halls like you know.
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00:30:17.750 --> 00:30:20.190
It's kind of smart because like they get a ton
518
00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:23.630
of pushback from using city water power and it's expensive
519
00:30:24.660 --> 00:30:28.490
So they pivoted to like, yeah, destroying natural resources. Like
520
00:30:28.549 --> 00:30:31.849
let's just suck up the mammoth cave system water for free,
521
00:30:31.869 --> 00:30:35.329
you know? And also let's build our own power plant,
522
00:30:35.950 --> 00:30:37.650
you know? So they have kind of been able to
523
00:30:37.710 --> 00:30:39.690
get away from some of this stuff. So, and as
524
00:30:39.750 --> 00:30:43.210
much as I'd like to credit grassroots effort, it does
525
00:30:43.250 --> 00:30:45.809
seem like the real problem is we just can't build
526
00:30:45.829 --> 00:30:51.109
power plants. There's huge, like two year back waiting lists
527
00:30:51.210 --> 00:30:53.769
on turbines. There's only a few companies that build a turbine.
528
00:30:53.789 --> 00:30:56.109
So We just, it just doesn't seem like we can
529
00:30:56.150 --> 00:30:59.450
do it. And it's not really clear to me why
530
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:04.099
we need so many data centers. You know, it does, it's,
531
00:31:04.339 --> 00:31:08.380
it kind of seems to be like the impetus for
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00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.740
a lot of this is NVIDIA. Like NVIDIA is investing
533
00:31:12.779 --> 00:31:16.900
in companies saying, build a data center with our chips.
534
00:31:17.730 --> 00:31:17.930
Yeah.
535
00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:23.440
And so this is keeping NVIDIA's, uh, revenue numbers inflated
536
00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:27.079
justifying their $ 5. 2 trillion. They're the biggest company in the world.
537
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:32.730
And it's this competition with China angle. That's the other
538
00:31:32.769 --> 00:31:34.710
thing that I get seen.
539
00:31:35.009 --> 00:31:36.660
We have to do it before China does it.
540
00:31:36.930 --> 00:31:41.329
Yeah, that's the only positive responses that I see for
541
00:31:41.369 --> 00:31:43.210
the data center. Like when this whole thing was happening
542
00:31:43.230 --> 00:31:46.960
in my community with the DC blocks, there would be
543
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:52.599
35 messages on the local neighborhood app being like, sign
544
00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:56.490
the petition, get this data center blocked, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
545
00:31:57.170 --> 00:31:59.910
And then there would be the one guy who's like, well, actually,
546
00:31:59.970 --> 00:32:01.950
you know, do we just want to let China go,
547
00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:05.910
go ahead and let, you know, out compete us and, and.
548
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.680
It's such an effective future and stuff like that. And it's, uh,
549
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:11.039
you know, that's how you get the boomers in the
550
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:13.319
city council meetings. Like you don't want to be speaking
551
00:32:13.420 --> 00:32:18.809
Mandarin now, do you? You know? Yeah. Oh, okay. Um, So, so,
552
00:32:19.009 --> 00:32:22.670
so Musk built huge, you know, many million square foot
553
00:32:22.690 --> 00:32:25.839
data center in Memphis realized they don't really need it.
554
00:32:26.410 --> 00:32:28.890
And so he's just leasing it out to open AI
555
00:32:28.910 --> 00:32:31.619
and all these companies. So it's wild. I mean, there's
556
00:32:31.660 --> 00:32:35.400
a whole drama with Sam Altman and Elon Musk. Um,
557
00:32:35.500 --> 00:32:38.420
they hate each other, you know, I don't know. Sam
558
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.509
Altman is credibly accused of raping his three-year-old sister. So
559
00:32:42.990 --> 00:32:44.769
that might be a vote of confidence if he doesn't
560
00:32:44.789 --> 00:32:48.569
like you, I don't know. But, um, Anyway, so it's crazy.
561
00:32:48.589 --> 00:32:53.509
So I want to move into star mind now because,
562
00:32:53.569 --> 00:32:56.880
and I didn't emphasize it enough, the real issue, water
563
00:32:56.890 --> 00:33:00.259
is a major issue, but the real issue really is power.
564
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.619
Like there is just, we don't have the power to
565
00:33:05.660 --> 00:33:08.859
power these things. They're talking about the goal of being
566
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:13.200
a terawatt. And that's about how much energy the US
567
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.559
uses a year right now. So we would need to
568
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:21.049
double our electrical supply to meet the compute objectives of
569
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the major, what are called frontier labs, which is a misnomer.
570
00:33:24.170 --> 00:33:28.990
These are corporations are not labs, but so anyway, here's
571
00:33:29.069 --> 00:33:32.509
star mine. This was announced at the SpaceX earnings call.
572
00:33:33.710 --> 00:33:35.970
There's a weird situation going on right now. Sorry to
573
00:33:35.990 --> 00:33:39.279
keep rambling, but there's a lot of people that hate
574
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:44.220
Elon Musk. They tend to be liberal. They don't like his,
575
00:33:44.630 --> 00:33:48.329
political relationship with Trump and his donations to the campaign.
576
00:33:48.369 --> 00:33:51.170
And it gets pretty toxic. I go, I'll read some
577
00:33:51.190 --> 00:33:55.430
of these Reddits. It's pretty intense. But there is like
578
00:33:55.490 --> 00:33:58.500
valid criticism of him too. But anyway, the valid criticism
579
00:33:58.539 --> 00:34:01.460
is how do you justify a $ 2 trillion valuation? It
580
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.539
doesn't make any sense. You know, you don't make any money.
581
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:07.140
How can one of the most valuable companies in the
582
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.889
world not make $ 1 in profit? You know, but by
583
00:34:11.929 --> 00:34:14.280
this measure, you and I, We could have a $ 2
584
00:34:14.059 --> 00:34:16.500
trillion company with our podcast here. You know what I mean?
585
00:34:16.980 --> 00:34:20.360
If we could convince people there was enough magic on
586
00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:24.619
the horizon, like, trust me, bro, we're developing this stuff.
587
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.530
You're not going to believe it. We could have a
588
00:34:27.530 --> 00:34:29.269
$ 2 trillion IPO, you know?
589
00:34:29.469 --> 00:34:32.530
I mean, the books we have, the coloring books we
590
00:34:32.570 --> 00:34:36.170
have coming down the pipeline, you won't believe.
591
00:34:35.739 --> 00:34:36.280
Them, brother.
592
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.719
Check it out at hemisphericpress.com. Now, not to downplay the
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00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.400
amazing engineering skills of like SpaceX and these companies, but anyway,
594
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.630
so they got to do something. And what kind of
595
00:34:47.690 --> 00:34:50.369
companies can get a $ 2 trillion valuation right now?
596
00:34:50.469 --> 00:34:50.769
AI.
597
00:34:51.630 --> 00:34:54.289
But again, like I've said, there's no electricity. So what
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00:34:54.309 --> 00:34:57.050
do we do? Have you heard of AI data centers
599
00:34:57.090 --> 00:34:57.489
in space?
600
00:34:58.630 --> 00:34:59.309
No, I haven't.
601
00:34:59.789 --> 00:35:00.630
You haven't heard this?
602
00:35:01.269 --> 00:35:03.159
I haven't heard AI data centers in space.
603
00:35:03.429 --> 00:35:05.840
This is like the biggest, this is like for the
604
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.539
last year, this has been like the hottest topic in,
605
00:35:09.369 --> 00:35:11.389
in like volatile investing.
606
00:35:11.989 --> 00:35:14.469
So let's go. I want to hear about star mind.
607
00:35:14.570 --> 00:35:18.449
And then I've got another interesting, which I'm not sure
608
00:35:18.469 --> 00:35:20.670
if it's related or not. It may be pure ignorance,
609
00:35:20.750 --> 00:35:24.280
but I have some, an interesting development in the areas
610
00:35:24.449 --> 00:35:29.440
we've been talking about that also may try. It's maybe
611
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.480
trying to solve the same problem that we're talking about.
612
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.480
This problem of power.
613
00:35:33.219 --> 00:35:34.980
Oh, really? Is it fusion related stuff?
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00:35:35.579 --> 00:35:35.760
Yeah.
615
00:35:36.340 --> 00:35:38.340
Okay. Okay. Are you telling me to hurry up and
616
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:39.219
play the clip or can I.
617
00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:42.159
Say, I want to play the clip. Let's talk about it.
618
00:35:42.179 --> 00:35:43.579
And then I just want to put a pin in
619
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.719
it because I have something that was interesting. I learned
620
00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:47.460
about a couple of days ago.
621
00:35:47.860 --> 00:35:51.809
Well, real quick, you know, people have been mocking this
622
00:35:52.449 --> 00:35:54.789
and I've been one of them. I was like, this
623
00:35:54.869 --> 00:35:58.030
is insane. You people have lost your damn minds.
624
00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:00.210
You know, I did a sentence in space.
625
00:36:00.610 --> 00:36:04.539
This has been, this has been the prevailing sentiment, including my,
626
00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:07.809
my own. And the reason is people don't, people think, Hey,
627
00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:12.090
space is cold. And that is true, but just quick, quick,
628
00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:17.119
like science thing, you know, heat leaves a body in
629
00:36:17.139 --> 00:36:23.380
three ways through radiation, through, um, convection and through conduction.
630
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:25.760
So like if you hold a hot coffee mug, the
631
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:31.239
heat that transfers to your hands, that's conduction. Um, and then,
632
00:36:31.500 --> 00:36:34.099
you know, if you blow on the coffee, that's convection.
633
00:36:34.730 --> 00:36:39.070
Because air gets hot, it moves up, and cool air
634
00:36:39.130 --> 00:36:41.510
comes in to replace it. And then radiation is just
635
00:36:41.590 --> 00:36:46.699
heat that just emanates energy. Only one of those works
636
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:52.420
in space, and it's radiation. And so actually, it's extremely
637
00:36:52.460 --> 00:36:56.519
difficult to keep things cool in space. Things that generate
638
00:36:56.579 --> 00:36:59.469
heat are things that are exposed to the sun, which
639
00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:02.449
AI data centers would need to be both because they're solar-powered.
640
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.659
So people just ridiculed this idea. Dude, I hate to
641
00:37:07.739 --> 00:37:10.380
say it. I've been looking into the physics. I can't
642
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.659
believe I'm saying this, that I'm looking into the physics
643
00:37:12.699 --> 00:37:16.090
of AI data centers. I think the fucker can do it.
644
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:19.610
I actually think he's going to do it. And so
645
00:37:19.699 --> 00:37:22.949
I want to listen to this. And the implications of
646
00:37:22.989 --> 00:37:24.789
that are kind of interesting. So let's just play the clip.
647
00:37:24.889 --> 00:37:25.590
It's pretty interesting.
648
00:37:25.610 --> 00:37:27.449
A lot of people don't actually know what the inside
649
00:37:27.469 --> 00:37:29.030
of a data center even looks like, right?
650
00:37:29.250 --> 00:37:29.510
Yeah.
651
00:37:29.809 --> 00:37:32.989
And it's some like mythical place where they... The internet's
652
00:37:33.030 --> 00:37:34.090
in the cloud or something.
653
00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:37.690
Yeah, some people envision wires, some people envision boxes, but
654
00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:41.889
effectively it comes down to a set number of chips
655
00:37:42.550 --> 00:37:44.820
and the things that we need to launch into space
656
00:37:44.860 --> 00:37:47.860
are actually quite small when we look at it. The
657
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.320
more challenging part is figuring out how do you get
658
00:37:50.340 --> 00:37:53.539
the power for it? And that's where A lot of
659
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.679
what we've worked on for existing like Starwing technology, the
660
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:02.829
solar arrays are what we want to utilize that expertise
661
00:38:03.190 --> 00:38:04.829
to be able to build a satellite that can actually
662
00:38:04.869 --> 00:38:08.050
launch the critical components of the data center into space itself.
663
00:38:08.849 --> 00:38:10.349
So I'm just going to pause it because, you know,
664
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people can't see the video. So it's an interesting looking satellite.
665
00:38:14.909 --> 00:38:17.619
It's actually a flatter light. This is a style of satellite.
666
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:21.619
It's basically it's like a it's like a domino. you know,
667
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.460
the bus of the satellite is like a domino. And
668
00:38:24.500 --> 00:38:27.800
then it has two big solar panel wings, which would be,
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you know, perpendicular to the sun. So they're facing the sun.
670
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And then there are two vertical radiator panels that would be,
671
00:38:39.429 --> 00:38:43.909
have the edge towards the sun. So minimal sunlight. Anyway,
672
00:38:43.969 --> 00:38:47.420
so the thing here is people initially were saying that
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the radiators would need to be the size of like
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three football fields to cool this. And the miscalculation they
675
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made is they just took the numbers from earth based
676
00:39:01.550 --> 00:39:04.929
chips and they ran the numbers on that. But obviously
677
00:39:04.969 --> 00:39:06.690
if you're sending stuff to space, you're going to engineer
678
00:39:06.710 --> 00:39:09.909
it differently. So that's kind of been done. And so
679
00:39:09.969 --> 00:39:12.989
now they're pretty confident that they can cool these little
680
00:39:13.070 --> 00:39:19.269
self-contained satellite data centers pretty reasonably actually. And then the
681
00:39:19.309 --> 00:39:23.500
solar panels as well, are pretty small. Now this thing
682
00:39:23.659 --> 00:39:25.780
is as big as a seven 47. I don't want
683
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:28.150
to kid you. It's still a large object, but it
684
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fits in there in there. They can, fit like 30
685
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of them in Starship. Um, you know, cause the, the
686
00:39:34.659 --> 00:39:40.760
solar panels and radiators collapse, they're retractable anyway. So, um,
687
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the thing is people go, well, I don't understand how
688
00:39:45.389 --> 00:39:50.369
solar could work. Solar sucks. You know, on Earth, solar sucks.
689
00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:55.170
I did not realize the initial videos I watched, the
690
00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:58.530
people were using the wrong numbers. They were using Earth-based
691
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solar numbers. There's no air in space. There's no, these
692
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are slightly outside of the strong magnetic field. The efficiency
693
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is way higher. Also, it's always daytime in space. You know,
694
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if these are in a polar orbit, what's called a
695
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sun-synchronous polar orbit, They're never in shadow. So there's no
696
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need for batteries. And, uh, it is kind of an
697
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infinite source of power. It is like the free energy that,
698
00:40:29.739 --> 00:40:30.739
you know, that you dream of.
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So this is, this is going to be where my, okay.
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00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.780
So you have a, a data center in space.
701
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:42.699
Yeah. Thousands of them.
702
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Thousands of data centers.
703
00:40:44.659 --> 00:40:46.820
Of these satellites. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
704
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What is the link from space?
705
00:40:51.420 --> 00:40:52.880
What do you do? Okay. You have all of this
706
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:56.199
cool shit in space. What does it do to get
707
00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:58.260
back to earth? What are you getting back to earth?
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00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.460
So this is, this is where are you.
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Getting it back to earth?
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You're already tapping into my grand unified theory.
711
00:41:04.909 --> 00:41:05.179
Okay.
712
00:41:06.289 --> 00:41:10.710
So the FCC regulates this thing called spectrum. It's the
713
00:41:10.769 --> 00:41:14.670
electromagnetic spectrum. It's used to communicate radio, you know, television,
714
00:41:14.690 --> 00:41:19.840
you know, broadcast television, radio, it's very sought after. I mean,
715
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.000
if you own a piece of the rights to a
716
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.039
piece of the spectrum, you can sell your company for
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00:41:24.099 --> 00:41:26.260
billions of dollars, even if you don't do anything, just
718
00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:31.860
owning that is like hugely valuable. So Starlink owns a
719
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broadband spectrum. So this is real, this is as good
720
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as it gets broadband because you can transmit huge amounts
721
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of data. Jeff Bezos's company owns broadband spectrum. And so,
722
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.980
It's pretty cool. It's good internet. If anyone's ever used Starlink,
723
00:41:51.420 --> 00:41:55.440
it's very low. It's so low, actually, that there's air resistance.
724
00:41:55.500 --> 00:41:59.099
They have to constantly replace the satellites. But because they're
725
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.320
not that far up, you get low latency. You can
726
00:42:02.340 --> 00:42:06.880
watch videos. You can play video games. And the user
727
00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:09.320
base is growing huge. I mean, this is the only
728
00:42:09.380 --> 00:42:12.239
part of SpaceX that looks really promising from a numbers
729
00:42:12.260 --> 00:42:17.480
perspective is Starlink. But it's kind of limited because broadband...
730
00:42:17.309 --> 00:42:21.449
that piece of spectrum can't go through walls. So it
731
00:42:21.590 --> 00:42:23.670
only works for internet because you can put something on
732
00:42:23.710 --> 00:42:26.590
your roof and then you put a router inside that
733
00:42:26.659 --> 00:42:30.280
switches it over to like 2.4 gigahertz or five gigahertz internet.
734
00:42:32.500 --> 00:42:36.539
Now my prediction, and I'm going to explain why I
735
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:43.010
think I know this is true, is that how could
736
00:42:43.030 --> 00:42:45.010
you improve that? Like how could you turn this into
737
00:42:45.070 --> 00:42:50.449
something with even more market value? Well, you could lease
738
00:42:50.550 --> 00:42:55.639
space from telephone poles or cell towers to essentially do
739
00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.880
the same thing. Put a Starlink receiver, but huge, on
740
00:43:00.900 --> 00:43:03.380
the cell tower and convert it to a cell signal,
741
00:43:03.900 --> 00:43:08.900
like a 5G or an LTE signal. And now all
742
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:13.030
of a sudden, from your network that you own, you
743
00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:20.530
can do internet, cell service, and cellular data. And it
744
00:43:20.550 --> 00:43:23.769
can connect to StarMind via these laser optical terminals they have.
745
00:43:24.989 --> 00:43:27.909
So you can have a completely space-based comms network for
746
00:43:27.949 --> 00:43:34.110
everyone on Earth and a hugely, the most powerful, the
747
00:43:34.190 --> 00:43:39.559
highest margin possible AI called StarMind. This is the pitch.
748
00:43:40.619 --> 00:43:44.860
This is what is justifying the potentially $ 10 trillion valuation.
749
00:43:46.179 --> 00:43:47.440
Yeah, that's really interesting.
750
00:43:48.260 --> 00:43:49.579
It's pretty interesting, I think.
751
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:54.119
Yeah, it's pretty nuts to think about how all of
752
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.480
that stuff, how all of it works and how you would,
753
00:43:57.860 --> 00:44:00.940
you know, kind of translate it from, and then how
754
00:44:00.980 --> 00:44:05.030
quickly it's gone from just, you know, data being all
755
00:44:05.260 --> 00:44:08.489
transmitted through wires, you know, using, you know, I know
756
00:44:08.550 --> 00:44:11.929
it's stereotypical at this point, but having to use an
757
00:44:11.989 --> 00:44:15.369
Ethernet cable and having to use your telephone line, you know,
758
00:44:15.409 --> 00:44:15.969
to get data.
759
00:44:16.739 --> 00:44:17.380
For the internet.
760
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.690
And then now you're talking about satellites in space that
761
00:44:20.769 --> 00:44:24.909
use laser optical terminals to, you know, in theory, transmit,
762
00:44:25.030 --> 00:44:26.909
you know, cellular signal.
763
00:44:26.929 --> 00:44:29.590
This is a bit of an aside. Do you have anything,
764
00:44:29.690 --> 00:44:32.489
do you know what the hell 6G is?
765
00:44:33.090 --> 00:44:33.449
No.
766
00:44:33.809 --> 00:44:36.949
I've been seeing this thread go through.
767
00:44:36.989 --> 00:44:39.210
So one of the, these guys that I follow, he
768
00:44:39.250 --> 00:44:43.739
goes to all of these think tanks events in Washington, DC.
769
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.670
He lives in, I think in West Virginia, but he
770
00:44:46.849 --> 00:44:49.079
lives close enough to Washington DC where he can get
771
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:50.800
there relatively easily.
772
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:52.159
And he is a researcher.
773
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.500
And so he goes to the national archives in DC
774
00:44:55.820 --> 00:44:59.239
and then we'll catch these think tank events. And so
775
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:02.269
he goes to, you know, I don't want to name
776
00:45:02.329 --> 00:45:04.909
off all the think tanks, but you know, the major
777
00:45:05.590 --> 00:45:08.269
Brookings Institute, like all these different people who are the
778
00:45:08.309 --> 00:45:12.050
Atlantic council, you know, who are hosting these events and
779
00:45:12.190 --> 00:45:15.750
a big, topic of conversation in these think tank events
780
00:45:15.809 --> 00:45:20.510
has been 6g and the future of 6g. So I'll
781
00:45:20.730 --> 00:45:23.250
have to send some stuff your way or look into it.
782
00:45:23.269 --> 00:45:28.130
Yeah. That's interesting. I mean, I, I, my instinct is like,
783
00:45:28.329 --> 00:45:32.150
as soon as I start hearing about like next gen's frequency,
784
00:45:32.190 --> 00:45:35.039
that's gonna like make us see visions of God. It's like,
785
00:45:35.099 --> 00:45:37.760
it's my conspiracy radar goes off a little bit, but,
786
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.579
but I don't know, man, like if you would have
787
00:45:40.619 --> 00:45:44.360
told someone like my stepmother, like, Who thinks like, you know,
788
00:45:44.460 --> 00:45:46.239
after you get the COVID shot, you can hold a
789
00:45:46.300 --> 00:45:48.679
magnet up to your arm and it will stick, you know,
790
00:45:48.699 --> 00:45:52.579
like this, like that kind of type of conspiracy or whatever.
791
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.320
If you would have told her like, hey, in 10 years,
792
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:01.380
there's going to be 50,000 satellites in space that form
793
00:46:01.579 --> 00:46:07.059
a hive mind, an artificial intelligence in the sky. And
794
00:46:07.099 --> 00:46:10.639
you can access it just by talking, you know, think
795
00:46:10.659 --> 00:46:14.510
about Neuralink. Think about Neuralink. If you really want to
796
00:46:14.530 --> 00:46:20.389
get conspiratorial, imagine having a link in your skull, literally.
797
00:46:20.409 --> 00:46:25.320
I don't know if... Neuralink is really interesting, actually. I've
798
00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:27.760
listened to some of the interviews of the surgeons and
799
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.400
the developers on that. Imagine having a literal plug in
800
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:38.639
your skull that's connected to a hive mind of satellites
801
00:46:38.739 --> 00:46:42.860
of 50,000 data centers in space. Yeah. You know what
802
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.559
I mean? This really is science fiction craziness. And I
803
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.369
wouldn't take it that seriously because it's so ridiculous and
804
00:46:49.409 --> 00:46:52.510
so capital intensive if it wasn't for the fact that
805
00:46:52.550 --> 00:46:57.690
he just raised $ 2 trillion. And they have the ship
806
00:46:57.710 --> 00:47:01.320
that can do it. Starship Super Heavy can put these
807
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.019
things in space. No sweat for cheap. I think it'll
808
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.199
probably happen. We'll just listen to another minute. I don't
809
00:47:07.219 --> 00:47:09.639
know if it gets more interesting or not.
810
00:47:11.219 --> 00:47:14.030
We like to look at this and say, like, what
811
00:47:14.289 --> 00:47:17.429
is the actual engineering problem here? And it's really a
812
00:47:17.769 --> 00:47:21.369
combination of delivering power and then taking the waste heat
813
00:47:21.409 --> 00:47:23.750
and energy away and sending it into the vacuum of space,
814
00:47:23.789 --> 00:47:24.269
as you mentioned.
815
00:47:24.989 --> 00:47:25.210
Yeah.
816
00:47:26.789 --> 00:47:31.739
Now, the AI satellite is actually much simpler than a
817
00:47:32.179 --> 00:47:36.920
Starlink satellite. A Starlink satellite has gigantic phase ray antennas.
818
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:38.119
It's got.
819
00:47:40.059 --> 00:47:47.840
You know, parabolic antennas, it's got a lot of laser links.
820
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.239
It's much more complicated than an AI satellite. An AI
821
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:55.969
satellite is essentially a lot of solar cells, a radiator,
822
00:47:56.690 --> 00:47:59.269
and you still need some laser links, but you don't
823
00:47:59.309 --> 00:48:02.550
have all of the super complex.
824
00:48:02.389 --> 00:48:04.090
Antennas that you have on a Starlink satellite.
825
00:48:05.670 --> 00:48:08.070
I mean, given the two, the easier one to design
826
00:48:08.110 --> 00:48:10.340
for is the AI satellite.
827
00:48:10.860 --> 00:48:11.039
Yeah.
828
00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:12.320
It's just a little bit bigger.
829
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.599
It's bigger. Just makes stuff bigger, yeah. I was like,
830
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.800
so we've got, this is our AI one, if you
831
00:48:19.820 --> 00:48:22.429
guys want to walk us through. I think this is
832
00:48:22.469 --> 00:48:25.590
basically the point. But the two major AI problems are solved.
833
00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:29.880
Free electricity, no water needed. And I think it is
834
00:48:29.900 --> 00:48:31.739
going to do something weird to the market. And I
835
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:35.480
did not understand why NVIDIA was such a big shareholder
836
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.889
in SpaceX because they seem like competitors to me. Because,
837
00:48:38.969 --> 00:48:42.190
you know, SpaceX is building a chip fab, the Terra fab.
838
00:48:42.949 --> 00:48:48.989
They have an AI. But NVIDIA is all in on SpaceX. And,
839
00:48:49.369 --> 00:48:54.750
you know, Elon just announced an exclusive contract with NVIDIA.
840
00:48:55.110 --> 00:48:58.030
So all of these data centers will have NVIDIA chips.
841
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.880
And this is going to, this is going to, no
842
00:49:02.940 --> 00:49:04.599
one else is going to be able to compete with this.
843
00:49:05.500 --> 00:49:08.559
All the other AI companies. I mean, if they're not
844
00:49:08.579 --> 00:49:13.610
going to be bankrupted just by natural economic forces, they'll
845
00:49:13.630 --> 00:49:17.340
be bankrupted by this. You can't compete with the margins.
846
00:49:18.420 --> 00:49:25.699
The biggest input cost is $ 0 now. Electricity. Here's the
847
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:29.170
reason for my conspiracy that they are planning to build
848
00:49:29.269 --> 00:49:34.409
a global broadband comms network that includes cell service and
849
00:49:34.449 --> 00:49:37.989
cellular data is because a company I really like and
850
00:49:38.050 --> 00:49:43.139
I invest in heavily, so I'm biased, just super compelling
851
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:47.679
founder and CEO, amazing engineering. They build the coolest shit,
852
00:49:48.860 --> 00:49:52.340
super reliable. They did it faster than SpaceX. Granted, they
853
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.610
were second, but they, just super cool. It's called Rocket Lab.
854
00:49:58.110 --> 00:50:00.889
And they've just had like a meteoric rise, super impressive.
855
00:50:00.909 --> 00:50:04.550
They've had a hundred launches. They're building this huge carbon
856
00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:10.610
fiber rocket. They bought a satellite company and it was
857
00:50:10.650 --> 00:50:14.900
for $ 6 billion. And if you watch the interviews with
858
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.179
the CEO, everyone's like, are you competing with SpaceX? Are
859
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:19.340
you ready to compete with SpaceX? He goes, no, no, no,
860
00:50:20.219 --> 00:50:24.550
not at all. We're smarter than that. This is what
861
00:50:24.570 --> 00:50:26.570
my whole conspiracy is based on. So I could be wrong,
862
00:50:26.590 --> 00:50:30.050
but we're smarter than that. We don't want to compete
863
00:50:30.130 --> 00:50:35.280
in broadband. So the company we bought, the spectrum that
864
00:50:35.300 --> 00:50:40.360
they own is called L band. And L band is
865
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.570
not useful for internet. It's, it's, not enough data can
866
00:50:44.610 --> 00:50:46.889
be stored on the, on the band. What it's useful
867
00:50:46.929 --> 00:50:48.849
for is it can penetrate any form of weather and
868
00:50:48.889 --> 00:50:52.650
it can penetrate buildings. So it's used for like search
869
00:50:52.690 --> 00:50:56.269
and rescue. Like Apple has a contract with the company.
870
00:50:56.610 --> 00:51:00.389
Like if you get lost in the woods and I said, Oh,
871
00:51:00.409 --> 00:51:03.840
that seems like a small market. And when pressed the
872
00:51:03.860 --> 00:51:06.400
CEO said, no, no, no, we've got big ideas. Like
873
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.420
this is not, we're not just going to be a
874
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:10.849
search and rescue. This is going to be big. And
875
00:51:10.869 --> 00:51:12.710
I'm like, how could it be big? And I'm trying
876
00:51:12.730 --> 00:51:16.389
to think like, what could L-band do that broadband can't?
877
00:51:17.150 --> 00:51:19.550
And it can do direct to cell phone. You can
878
00:51:19.570 --> 00:51:24.170
have phone calls on it. It works through buildings. And
879
00:51:25.130 --> 00:51:28.010
wouldn't you guess, Elon Musk, and I already mentioned this,
880
00:51:28.050 --> 00:51:31.050
but he put, I don't know if it was Elon,
881
00:51:31.070 --> 00:51:34.750
but SpaceX is putting pressure on the FCC to stop
882
00:51:34.809 --> 00:51:37.969
the acquisition. So it tells you that they are threatened
883
00:51:38.070 --> 00:51:43.710
by this issue. And that to me suggests that Elon,
884
00:51:43.789 --> 00:51:47.349
they are trying to make a play for all the comps.
885
00:51:48.630 --> 00:51:51.590
A single company that will be the largest AI company
886
00:51:51.610 --> 00:51:55.070
in the world and the largest telecom in the world.
887
00:51:55.329 --> 00:51:58.630
And so that would justify, you know, the $ 10 trillion valuation.
888
00:51:59.110 --> 00:52:01.389
That is the end of my TED Talk. Do you
889
00:52:01.429 --> 00:52:05.110
have any questions or interests or thoughts?
890
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:07.340
No, that makes a lot of sense.
891
00:52:07.429 --> 00:52:12.309
I mean, in terms of transitioning as kind of an
892
00:52:12.429 --> 00:52:13.489
end game.
893
00:52:14.829 --> 00:52:15.510
Of this.
894
00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:25.110
Development that we've been in of this clearly unsustainable push
895
00:52:25.139 --> 00:52:29.510
towards AI with the data centers reaching its breaking point
896
00:52:29.530 --> 00:52:33.880
that we mentioned earlier with local municipalities fighting back. People
897
00:52:34.820 --> 00:52:37.340
seem extremely resistant in that there's not going to be
898
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.869
a campaign that is successful in changing people's hearts and
899
00:52:40.889 --> 00:52:43.869
minds about this within the next five to 10 years.
900
00:52:44.110 --> 00:52:47.530
It doesn't seem like that's a viable solution. And so
901
00:52:47.550 --> 00:52:55.380
in kind of seeking a solution, engineering a satellite that
902
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.440
is able to basically run on free power and then
903
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:04.500
transmit down to earth the signal that is then widely
904
00:53:04.579 --> 00:53:08.769
applicable to all of the services that people use on
905
00:53:08.809 --> 00:53:10.750
a day-to-day basis that makes a lot of sense.
906
00:53:10.969 --> 00:53:11.809
And that's really interesting.
907
00:53:12.949 --> 00:53:18.070
Um, I don't know enough about it to have opinions
908
00:53:18.190 --> 00:53:21.949
or really any sort of informed conversation other than to say,
909
00:53:22.349 --> 00:53:25.800
you know, it's pretty fascinating. It's pretty wild concept.
910
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.719
It's, um, it does.
911
00:53:29.780 --> 00:53:31.960
Seem someone who's going to do it, that it's going
912
00:53:31.980 --> 00:53:32.800
to be SpaceX.
913
00:53:33.500 --> 00:53:36.110
Yeah. Yeah. sorry, there's, I have too much stuff open
914
00:53:36.139 --> 00:53:38.289
on my computer. So there's like a lag. I thought
915
00:53:38.329 --> 00:53:41.550
he stopped and then it kept, anyway, it's a, it shows,
916
00:53:41.630 --> 00:53:45.030
it shows the shrewdness of Elon. I mean, he is
917
00:53:45.070 --> 00:53:49.110
just an incredibly shrewd guy. I don't personally, I don't
918
00:53:49.150 --> 00:53:51.030
like it. I think it's bad. I think it is
919
00:53:51.090 --> 00:53:55.880
bad that we could have the entire world's computational power,
920
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.199
you know, in space owned by one company. You know,
921
00:53:59.219 --> 00:54:02.340
I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. And, and if,
922
00:54:02.500 --> 00:54:06.039
and not every, I mean, it isn't just AI, it's,
923
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:10.119
it's any cloud-based service. Like why, why wouldn't you use
924
00:54:10.219 --> 00:54:13.780
the service that's going to be cheaper, you know, and
925
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.440
it's going to be just as good, if not better.
926
00:54:17.219 --> 00:54:20.239
So it's, it's really interesting. And given, you know, his
927
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:25.949
political connections, like I'm starting to understand the, the role
928
00:54:26.489 --> 00:54:28.710
that the, like what you call the PayPal mafia, like
929
00:54:29.550 --> 00:54:32.409
the influence these guys have, the role they have, like
930
00:54:32.449 --> 00:54:36.010
these are bigger plans. These are big plans, you know,
931
00:54:36.429 --> 00:54:39.070
not to get into like a conspiratorial mindset, but this is,
932
00:54:39.150 --> 00:54:41.849
these are like big fricking moves, you know?
933
00:54:41.869 --> 00:54:43.219
No, this is, this is what I mean is you
934
00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:50.380
have to have coordination with global government, basically a global
935
00:54:50.420 --> 00:54:51.599
government structure.
936
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:54.659
I mean, maybe not.
937
00:54:54.619 --> 00:55:00.570
Everyone is buying into it, but I mean, all there
938
00:55:00.590 --> 00:55:06.519
will be dozens of countries that will be involved in,
939
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.179
you know, setting up the infrastructure on earth to support
940
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:16.059
something like that. Um, you have to have, I mean,
941
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:18.900
definitely with just the United States government, I mean, in
942
00:55:18.980 --> 00:55:22.159
order to get, like you said, the FCC to get that,
943
00:55:22.179 --> 00:55:26.730
to own that spectrum, you know, to own the broadband spectrum,
944
00:55:26.789 --> 00:55:29.619
to have, um, everything that you, you know, all the
945
00:55:29.659 --> 00:55:34.059
contracts lined up that you, it's not just this application,
946
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.139
you know, it's not just a consumer application and a
947
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.260
commercial application. It's also, you know, there, I'm sure there's
948
00:55:40.300 --> 00:55:43.920
military applications. I'm sure there's all sorts of, you know,
949
00:55:43.980 --> 00:55:47.820
different players that get involved in, you know, this sort
950
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:50.750
of thing. And like you said earlier, kind of at
951
00:55:50.789 --> 00:55:54.690
the points that you led of the privatization of space,
952
00:55:55.510 --> 00:55:59.119
whereas it used to be, you know, NASA, and the
953
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:01.760
Soviet Union, you know, those were the ones, you know,
954
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:07.199
kind of governing activity in space. Now it's a blend,
955
00:56:07.219 --> 00:56:10.500
you know, this corporatization and kind of this blend of that.
956
00:56:10.699 --> 00:56:16.619
And so, yeah, I mean, it's not conspiratorial. I'm sure
957
00:56:16.659 --> 00:56:19.320
it is conspiratorial, you know, I'm a conspiracy theorist, but
958
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.769
conspiratorial in the sense that, yeah, you can't just, you
959
00:56:23.789 --> 00:56:25.670
can't just do this on your own. You have to
960
00:56:25.710 --> 00:56:27.630
have coordination and you have.
961
00:56:27.550 --> 00:56:33.130
To have, Can we take it to the max degree
962
00:56:33.150 --> 00:56:39.389
of conspiracy and just say you own just an unfathomable
963
00:56:39.429 --> 00:56:43.960
amount of compute in space and you do have some
964
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.460
very– an AI that of course I don't think is conscious.
965
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.039
I don't buy into the hype engine, the stupid PR
966
00:56:50.059 --> 00:56:54.309
releases masquerading as breaking news. I don't buy any of that.
967
00:56:54.349 --> 00:56:57.429
But you could have something very capable and very impressive
968
00:56:57.530 --> 00:56:58.170
in the sky.
969
00:56:58.570 --> 00:56:58.829
Right.
970
00:57:00.449 --> 00:57:05.539
And, you know, maybe, you know, you have a SpaceX phone.
971
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:07.880
There's already talks about that. An X phone. You know,
972
00:57:07.900 --> 00:57:11.579
there's there's you you can you can look, you know,
973
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:13.360
because they're a public company. So you can follow some
974
00:57:13.380 --> 00:57:14.940
of the things they do. And they're in talks with
975
00:57:14.980 --> 00:57:19.489
phone manufacturers and stuff. But anyway, who knows? But but
976
00:57:19.550 --> 00:57:21.929
the dude, the neural link thing. Can we just for
977
00:57:21.969 --> 00:57:24.510
a second, can we go max? Can we go like
978
00:57:24.570 --> 00:57:27.210
ridiculous conspiracy for a second? Would you permit it?
979
00:57:28.050 --> 00:57:28.289
Of course.
980
00:57:28.309 --> 00:57:30.449
And people, I don't know if, listen, I'm just having
981
00:57:30.510 --> 00:57:30.849
fun now.
982
00:57:30.869 --> 00:57:31.150
Okay.
983
00:57:31.190 --> 00:57:36.070
Everything else, pretty responsible. Now we're just having fun. Like
984
00:57:36.090 --> 00:57:40.239
the thing about Neuralink is like you, like if you
985
00:57:40.300 --> 00:57:43.760
look at the things you're trying to cure, right? Well,
986
00:57:43.860 --> 00:57:47.079
one thing they could potentially cure is like your interact,
987
00:57:47.260 --> 00:57:50.150
your ability to interact with the environment with like a
988
00:57:50.190 --> 00:57:52.849
spinal cord injury. Okay. So that's cool. You can control
989
00:57:52.909 --> 00:57:56.210
like an interface with your mind. Like they have the
990
00:57:56.250 --> 00:58:01.739
guy with the, Complete C6, you know, quadriplegic, and he
991
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:03.639
can play video games just by looking at a screen
992
00:58:03.659 --> 00:58:11.239
and thinking what he wants to do. It's pretty nuts, right? Blindness, blindness.
993
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.159
So if you think about what that means, it's the
994
00:58:14.219 --> 00:58:22.170
ability to induce the experience of vision, right? Deafness, same thing.
995
00:58:22.190 --> 00:58:25.429
The ability to induce the experience of hearing a voice
996
00:58:25.710 --> 00:58:29.840
or whatever. it is kind of nuts to just really
997
00:58:29.969 --> 00:58:34.449
daydream like as like a fiction writer might, uh, about
998
00:58:34.469 --> 00:58:38.889
the interaction between a device like that and a sort
999
00:58:38.929 --> 00:58:41.449
of omnipresent intelligence in the sky.
1000
00:58:41.489 --> 00:58:42.010
You know what I mean?
1001
00:58:42.530 --> 00:58:44.500
And of course it's fun. It's fun. It gets a
1002
00:58:44.500 --> 00:58:47.599
little revelatory, you know, revelations real quick, this idea that,
1003
00:58:48.179 --> 00:58:50.500
you know, we're going to hear things and see things
1004
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.820
in the sky that aren't really there. It's kind of
1005
00:58:52.860 --> 00:58:56.409
cool though. That's in revelation. I like that. Um, this
1006
00:58:56.469 --> 00:58:59.670
does fit that bill. But at least it's not like
1007
00:58:59.690 --> 00:59:04.099
this guy's friend is like obsessed with the Antichrist. Cause
1008
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:08.639
then I would be really suspicious, but, um, so I
1009
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:09.920
don't know. There's just something.
1010
00:59:10.019 --> 00:59:12.010
Fellow member of the PayPal mafia.
1011
00:59:12.469 --> 00:59:15.449
Yeah. There's something interesting there. There's something interesting with Peter
1012
00:59:15.489 --> 00:59:19.349
Thiel and Elon Musk and Thiel capital in the interest
1013
00:59:19.449 --> 00:59:24.289
that those people seem to have in this weird spiritual domain.
1014
00:59:24.329 --> 00:59:26.909
Like how you were telling me about Jesse Michaels, Thiel
1015
00:59:26.929 --> 00:59:30.519
capital investor. Yeah. acting like this cool young kid who's
1016
00:59:30.539 --> 00:59:33.750
just into ghosts and shit, you know, going on Rogan, like, bro,
1017
00:59:33.789 --> 00:59:36.750
it's just so much fun. You know, he's a teal
1018
00:59:36.789 --> 00:59:42.610
capital private equity investor, you know? Anyway, it's, um, I
1019
00:59:42.670 --> 00:59:45.210
wouldn't be that suspicious of it if not for these,
1020
00:59:45.929 --> 00:59:50.760
these things like this desire to influence the, the culture
1021
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:54.920
in relation to spiritual stuff, the interests that all these
1022
00:59:54.940 --> 00:59:59.590
people seem to have in spiritual stuff. And the technological
1023
00:59:59.630 --> 01:00:03.530
capabilities they may soon have border on supernatural. I mean,
1024
01:00:04.150 --> 01:00:07.630
at least from the perspective of like the people who
1025
01:00:07.670 --> 01:00:11.010
would have written these books would certainly appear supernatural. So
1026
01:00:11.309 --> 01:00:13.110
I don't know. I just think it's interesting and fun.
1027
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:14.340
So that's it.
1028
01:00:14.340 --> 01:00:18.019
No, I think it's, I think it's super interesting.
1029
01:00:18.059 --> 01:00:21.820
I mean, I, I go back to, you know, we
1030
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.380
talked about Andrea Pujaric, you know, I bring this up
1031
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:28.469
super frequently, but this desire to, to do kind of
1032
01:00:28.510 --> 01:00:31.630
exactly the thing that you're talking about, is to put
1033
01:00:31.670 --> 01:00:32.750
a voice in someone's head.
1034
01:00:32.769 --> 01:00:33.929
Yeah, this is it.
1035
01:00:34.090 --> 01:00:37.329
Which is the radio in the tooth is the 50s
1036
01:00:37.409 --> 01:00:41.260
version of having a chip in the head that's connected into,
1037
01:00:41.500 --> 01:00:45.980
you know, it's the same general concept of using a
1038
01:00:46.059 --> 01:00:49.800
frequency that someone is unaware of in order to produce,
1039
01:00:50.340 --> 01:00:52.760
you know, a hallucination of a voice or something.
1040
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.239
Not a hallucination. The voice is legitimately there, but.
1041
01:00:56.769 --> 01:00:58.750
But this is so much more advanced than that. Because
1042
01:00:58.789 --> 01:01:01.489
if you think about it, like if you just broadcast
1043
01:01:01.550 --> 01:01:04.719
a voice, it would be like this disconnected thing. Like,
1044
01:01:05.340 --> 01:01:08.179
you know, what is it? Like drink your Ovaltine. Let's
1045
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.900
say the voice is saying, drink your Ovaltine. And you're like, wait, wait,
1046
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.579
which kind of Ovaltine? And it just says, drink your
1047
01:01:13.659 --> 01:01:17.429
Ovaltine again. Like it would be like this amorphous, it
1048
01:01:17.469 --> 01:01:19.909
would not pass a sniff test. Like, especially if you
1049
01:01:19.949 --> 01:01:21.949
have a chip in your head. But if the thing
1050
01:01:22.010 --> 01:01:25.920
is a reasoning and speaking with you, And if you
1051
01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:29.340
say your prayer in your mind, like, who are you?
1052
01:01:30.099 --> 01:01:34.889
It is I, the Lord. What do you mean? Well, Trevor,
1053
01:01:34.909 --> 01:01:37.969
they say your name because they know you. I was
1054
01:01:38.030 --> 01:01:41.289
there with you when you put that nasty website into
1055
01:01:41.309 --> 01:01:44.730
your browser this morning. I'm just making shit up, but
1056
01:01:45.860 --> 01:01:47.519
it's kind of nuts.
1057
01:01:48.059 --> 01:01:50.960
Well, that's what I... And my point of not, like,
1058
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:51.860
not to compare, like.
1059
01:01:52.019 --> 01:01:52.900
Yeah, sorry to interrupt you.
1060
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:54.699
That's being the same thing, but it just shows the
1061
01:01:54.739 --> 01:01:57.260
progression of, like, this interest in that concept.
1062
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:57.619
Yes.
1063
01:01:58.179 --> 01:02:03.440
Of not necessarily having the technological capability, but knowing that
1064
01:02:03.579 --> 01:02:06.820
one day the technological capability will be there. And you
1065
01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.980
had people in the 50s, 75 years ago. How can we,
1066
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:14.840
you know... We have this technological development. We make patents,
1067
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:17.820
and we do stuff like that, and we mess with people. And,
1068
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:22.400
you know, I think to a certain extent, you know, people,
1069
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:24.989
it's like we live in the era that we live in.
1070
01:02:25.219 --> 01:02:27.420
So maybe a radio in the tooth to an old
1071
01:02:27.460 --> 01:02:31.500
man in the 1950s is like, fucking what?
1072
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:33.960
Can't distinguish it.
1073
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.059
Whereas today it would be, you know, wouldn't pass that
1074
01:02:37.099 --> 01:02:37.900
kind of sniff test.
1075
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:39.110
But I find it interesting.
1076
01:02:39.139 --> 01:02:42.710
I mean, there's also all this stuff with, you know,
1077
01:02:42.750 --> 01:02:47.530
it happens in the UFO phenomenon with like abductees saying
1078
01:02:47.550 --> 01:02:49.590
that they have implants.
1079
01:02:49.820 --> 01:02:50.579
Put into them.
1080
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:56.539
And one of the interesting elements of like the the
1081
01:02:56.599 --> 01:03:04.099
abductee phenomenon is the military abductions and these reports that
1082
01:03:04.219 --> 01:03:08.019
seem to where people are being drugged and they're being
1083
01:03:08.420 --> 01:03:11.980
operated on by human surgeons and having implants put into
1084
01:03:12.019 --> 01:03:13.989
them by human surgeons.
1085
01:03:14.139 --> 01:03:17.150
You know Hey, can you do me a favor? It's
1086
01:03:17.429 --> 01:03:22.199
so stupid. My computer connected to the internet outside in
1087
01:03:22.219 --> 01:03:26.599
my shed. So I'm going to switch networks because your
1088
01:03:26.659 --> 01:03:29.679
voice isn't coming through. So if you get disconnected, just rejoin, okay?
1089
01:03:29.699 --> 01:03:45.090
All right. Are you still... Okay. I think I'm still
1090
01:03:45.150 --> 01:03:49.449
recording hopefully, but David, David got kicked out. So just
1091
01:03:49.489 --> 01:03:53.300
stand by for, for a couple seconds. I hated it.
1092
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:55.530
It was interesting, but I'm just worried on the tape
1093
01:03:55.590 --> 01:04:01.099
if he's going to sound all sound all crazy. So anyway,
1094
01:04:01.500 --> 01:04:05.719
I'm curious what you guys think. I don't know what
1095
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.400
our email is for this show, but you can email
1096
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.539
me at God's eye view book at gmail.com. I'm curious
1097
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:14.519
what you think about this conversation. And David is back.
1098
01:04:19.139 --> 01:04:21.579
All right. Hopefully you sounded okay. The whole time you
1099
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:27.230
were talking, you were kind of glitchy. So, um, I thought,
1100
01:04:28.409 --> 01:04:30.750
I thought maybe it was my computer. I was like
1101
01:04:30.809 --> 01:04:33.929
shutting programs, but anyway, it seems like we're still recording
1102
01:04:33.969 --> 01:04:34.690
and everything. So.
1103
01:04:35.650 --> 01:04:36.309
Okay, cool.
1104
01:04:37.260 --> 01:04:40.099
So weird. It still says your internet is unstable, but anyway, okay.
1105
01:04:40.139 --> 01:04:42.739
You were making a great point. I interrupted you. Please continue.
1106
01:04:43.659 --> 01:04:47.090
No, but it was this, there's this phenomenon too of the,
1107
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:51.510
with the military abductions. That's, it seems like the military
1108
01:04:52.030 --> 01:05:00.570
at one point was drugging people, putting chips in their bodies, communicate,
1109
01:05:00.690 --> 01:05:02.949
and then using them as like a way to communicate
1110
01:05:03.010 --> 01:05:06.639
or way to mess around with people and trying to
1111
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:09.420
make it seem as if it were aliens were the
1112
01:05:09.500 --> 01:05:12.690
ones doing it and trying to kind of create some
1113
01:05:12.710 --> 01:05:15.710
sort of spiritual experience or some sort of profound personal
1114
01:05:15.750 --> 01:05:21.230
experience that motivates them into a completely alternate course of thinking.
1115
01:05:21.250 --> 01:05:28.710
Um, because if you think about like, just hypothetically, maybe
1116
01:05:28.750 --> 01:05:31.489
there really is some like end times thing that's going
1117
01:05:31.510 --> 01:05:34.070
to happen now that maybe that's not true. You know, maybe,
1118
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:37.719
maybe the world just keeps turning until, you know, whatever,
1119
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.110
there's no more humans, we evolve, whatever. But, but maybe
1120
01:05:41.150 --> 01:05:45.860
there really is this, like these final days and, and
1121
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.420
maybe like some of these ideas really are true that like,
1122
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.619
we're going to hear voices and see things in the
1123
01:05:51.659 --> 01:05:55.130
sky that aren't really there. It's like, okay, let's call
1124
01:05:55.170 --> 01:05:59.849
that the finish line. Let's imagine the series of events
1125
01:06:00.010 --> 01:06:04.030
that would take us there in like the last 10 years.
1126
01:06:04.050 --> 01:06:07.579
It's like, you could not dream up a better series
1127
01:06:07.619 --> 01:06:10.389
of events. You know what I mean? Like, like, And
1128
01:06:10.429 --> 01:06:13.920
so what you're saying is like, it could be that we,
1129
01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:19.960
the government, the government, whatever that means, groups, multinational groups, society,
1130
01:06:19.980 --> 01:06:23.619
secret societies, whatever, kind of have a pretty good idea
1131
01:06:23.659 --> 01:06:26.159
of how some of this stuff works. They just really
1132
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.409
haven't had the system to deploy it on a global scale.
1133
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:31.590
And maybe Elon's not that bad of a guy. Maybe
1134
01:06:31.610 --> 01:06:33.690
he's a good guy. Maybe his heart's in the right place,
1135
01:06:34.730 --> 01:06:37.730
but you know, time is a funny thing. And if
1136
01:06:37.750 --> 01:06:41.920
you're an organization that can last, like a multinational organization,
1137
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:46.179
like just because maybe star mine's great today or the
1138
01:06:46.219 --> 01:06:48.750
next 10 years or the next 20 years, like you
1139
01:06:48.789 --> 01:06:53.530
could imagine on this timeline towards judgment day, how a
1140
01:06:53.570 --> 01:06:56.809
system like this could be hijacked by those types of people. If,
1141
01:06:56.989 --> 01:06:58.329
if it isn't already, you know?
1142
01:06:59.389 --> 01:06:59.530
Yeah.
1143
01:06:59.550 --> 01:07:01.829
And that's what, I mean, I don't, I'm not super
1144
01:07:01.849 --> 01:07:05.789
convinced that Elon is, um, benevolent actor.
1145
01:07:06.469 --> 01:07:09.389
I'm not the most, you don't think the richest guy
1146
01:07:09.429 --> 01:07:10.949
in the world is just a nice guy. Is that
1147
01:07:10.969 --> 01:07:11.530
what you're saying? Yeah.
1148
01:07:12.349 --> 01:07:14.889
And also, I don't know. I mean, it's the same
1149
01:07:14.909 --> 01:07:15.730
thing with Peter Thiel.
1150
01:07:15.750 --> 01:07:19.010
When you start to look into their family histories as well,
1151
01:07:19.050 --> 01:07:21.860
they have very interesting backgrounds and there's a lot of
1152
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.199
connections to, uh, I think with both of them, I
1153
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:29.820
might be confusing Musk with Thiel, but there's like connections to,
1154
01:07:30.179 --> 01:07:33.539
I think it's Thiel's father, uh, I think he was
1155
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:36.219
super caught up in the apartheid regime in South Africa.
1156
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:38.590
I think that's Musk. I think that's Musk.
1157
01:07:38.739 --> 01:07:39.159
Yeah.
1158
01:07:39.409 --> 01:07:41.550
Is Teal South African too? I know Musk is.
1159
01:07:41.989 --> 01:07:43.090
It might be both of them.
1160
01:07:43.250 --> 01:07:45.889
I think that there is a South African connection to
1161
01:07:46.269 --> 01:07:49.369
Musk that he might not be South African. His heritage
1162
01:07:49.389 --> 01:07:50.760
might not be South African, but they.
1163
01:07:50.820 --> 01:07:51.380
Oh, interesting.
1164
01:07:52.340 --> 01:07:55.219
I think his parents may have like lived in. So anyways,
1165
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:55.559
it gets.
1166
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.420
He likes to joke that he's an African-American CEO. Yeah.
1167
01:08:01.670 --> 01:08:03.789
Like I said, I don't know the ins and outs
1168
01:08:03.829 --> 01:08:07.440
of it, but I know enough to be like, well,
1169
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:11.159
not to blame the sins of the father on the
1170
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:14.139
sons or whatever, but it's not like these people are.
1171
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.239
And it's also kind of the same story with Bill
1172
01:08:19.260 --> 01:08:22.380
Gates and some of these other people. Some of them
1173
01:08:22.420 --> 01:08:24.500
seem to have been kind of selected for the role
1174
01:08:24.699 --> 01:08:28.449
that they play. So the reason that yeah, I mean,
1175
01:08:28.489 --> 01:08:35.550
he is super savvy. He's super intelligent, a genius, an insider, whatever.
1176
01:08:36.590 --> 01:08:39.800
Sometimes I think that those are images that are constructed
1177
01:08:39.939 --> 01:08:43.340
for the public when in reality they have been selected
1178
01:08:43.460 --> 01:08:46.300
by a powerful group of people to be like, you
1179
01:08:46.340 --> 01:08:49.479
are going to be the one that we have this plan.
1180
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:52.550
We're going to make it seem like your plan because
1181
01:08:52.609 --> 01:08:56.789
that's the capitalist perspective. You know, that's the free market,
1182
01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:00.770
myth that we like to, you know, sell to people.
1183
01:09:00.869 --> 01:09:04.550
We like people to believe that these billionaires are self-made
1184
01:09:04.630 --> 01:09:09.779
and that, you know, the geniuses, you know, individual geniuses.
1185
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:11.420
Can succeed.
1186
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:15.119
And to a certain extent, that is very true. I'm
1187
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.819
not saying that that doesn't exist, but with people like Musk,
1188
01:09:20.470 --> 01:09:23.770
and with some of these other people like Gates and
1189
01:09:23.810 --> 01:09:27.510
maybe even Bezos, sometimes it feels like they're handpicked and
1190
01:09:27.550 --> 01:09:29.850
hand selected being like, we're going to give you the
1191
01:09:29.890 --> 01:09:32.720
keys to the kingdom. And this is the plan that
1192
01:09:32.739 --> 01:09:36.380
we have. And we want you to use, you know,
1193
01:09:36.619 --> 01:09:39.399
you're selected because you have skills. You're selected because you
1194
01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:42.260
are intelligent and you're selected because, you know, you have
1195
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:45.220
the skillset we're looking for in order to implement a
1196
01:09:45.260 --> 01:09:46.020
system like this.
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01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:47.979
So go do it.
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01:09:48.010 --> 01:09:50.869
And if I had a guess for you, If I
1199
01:09:50.890 --> 01:09:54.729
had to guess, it's that, but if I just had
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01:09:54.750 --> 01:09:59.029
to guess, a slight tweak of that, which is that
1201
01:09:59.380 --> 01:10:02.180
I don't think certainly that's how the message would be
1202
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.800
delivered to the individual. I think from a must perspective,
1203
01:10:05.819 --> 01:10:09.539
it's like, hey, this private equity firm just seems to
1204
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:13.539
have a real interest in my ideas. And they sure
1205
01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:15.140
seem very willing to give me $ 10 million or $ 100
1206
01:10:15.100 --> 01:10:23.159
million or may have. you know, these, uh, these huge, um, like, like, uh,
1207
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:25.970
super PAC committee sure seem to be putting pressure on
1208
01:10:26.010 --> 01:10:28.729
senators to allow me to do this or that, you
1209
01:10:28.739 --> 01:10:31.810
know what I mean? Like I bet it's more hidden
1210
01:10:31.869 --> 01:10:35.300
from the individual and just feeds into their hubris. Like, man,
1211
01:10:35.430 --> 01:10:38.329
I really am a genius, you know? And again, I mean,
1212
01:10:38.369 --> 01:10:43.710
he clearly the dude is, you know, he's, he's certainly intelligent,
1213
01:10:44.069 --> 01:10:46.989
incredibly shrewd. And I was a huge fan of his
1214
01:10:47.029 --> 01:10:50.350
for a long time. I, I do just kind of
1215
01:10:50.369 --> 01:10:54.550
feel like it's kind of was maybe not always an act,
1216
01:10:54.949 --> 01:11:00.460
but the sort of eccentric genius outsider character that he plays, it's,
1217
01:11:00.579 --> 01:11:02.319
it's just not true. It's not true.
1218
01:11:03.180 --> 01:11:06.119
Yeah. So, yeah, no, I think it's, I think it's
1219
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:06.859
really interesting.
1220
01:11:07.899 --> 01:11:11.500
Um, and there's a couple, like I said, I don't
1221
01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:13.140
know a ton about this, but it does make me,
1222
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.159
I am going to look a little bit more into
1223
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:19.300
some of the threads that came up. I'm interested because like,
1224
01:11:19.569 --> 01:11:23.729
I said I had heard a bunch about 6G. It
1225
01:11:23.770 --> 01:11:26.270
could be just another kind of buzzword, could be kind
1226
01:11:26.289 --> 01:11:32.500
of another fad, you know, slash marketing ploy, whatever it
1227
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:34.159
is to.
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01:11:34.180 --> 01:11:37.859
I'm confused what the need is for more G, you know?
1229
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:39.680
So that's what... We're.
1230
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:43.619
At sub-millimeter spectrum at this point. Like, you can't get
1231
01:11:43.689 --> 01:11:46.390
any more, like, bandwidth than that.
1232
01:11:47.210 --> 01:11:48.470
Yeah. So.
1233
01:11:49.130 --> 01:11:52.939
This is just from a random website that I found.
1234
01:11:52.949 --> 01:11:59.380
It is the IEC, which is the International Electrotechnical Commission.
1235
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:00.539
I don't know what that is.
1236
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:03.319
I think that's legit. I think that's big time.
1237
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:05.090
Yeah.
1238
01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:07.930
The name of the webpage is What is 6G, and
1239
01:12:07.949 --> 01:12:10.529
are we ready for it? And it goes through some
1240
01:12:10.550 --> 01:12:14.229
basic explanations of just kind of what is 6G. So
1241
01:12:14.250 --> 01:12:17.939
6G refers to the sixth generation of cellular technology's Represents
1242
01:12:17.989 --> 01:12:20.119
a technological evolution, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1243
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:21.100
How do we get to 6G?
1244
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:25.000
It goes through very briefly the progression from 1G all
1245
01:12:25.020 --> 01:12:27.680
the way through 5G advanced, which is what is currently
1246
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:30.600
being deployed. So 5G advanced is currently being deployed, including
1247
01:12:30.619 --> 01:12:33.819
the first integration of satellite communications and AI solutions.
1248
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:35.020
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
1249
01:12:35.819 --> 01:12:40.210
Is this it? Satellite communications? Yeah.
1250
01:12:40.510 --> 01:12:43.750
So this is 5G advanced is the integration of satellite
1251
01:12:43.890 --> 01:12:45.130
communications and AI solutions.
1252
01:12:45.170 --> 01:12:46.760
So how will 6G be better than 5G?
1253
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.319
6G plans to use new mid-band radio frequencies from 4
1254
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:54.779
to 15 gigahertz. Combined with the existing mobile frequencies, this
1255
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:57.539
will make coverage better and be able to integrate satellite networks.
1256
01:12:58.460 --> 01:13:01.960
It will also enable more secure, reliable networks with higher capacity.
1257
01:13:02.380 --> 01:13:05.199
The connection will also be more consistent. When it comes
1258
01:13:05.220 --> 01:13:08.510
to integrating AI and the Internet of Things, 6G will
1259
01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:11.989
be able to support the evolution of AI and Internet
1260
01:13:12.029 --> 01:13:15.970
of Things, enabling faster video streaming, machine-to-machine communication, and potential
1261
01:13:16.010 --> 01:13:19.939
applications we have not seen yet. This includes collaborative virtual
1262
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.420
and augmented reality, fully networked vehicles, smart factories, more widespread
1263
01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:27.479
use of digital twins, and much more. Other key benefits
1264
01:13:27.539 --> 01:13:30.909
will be more precise location and sensor positioning, 1 to
1265
01:13:30.909 --> 01:13:34.430
10 centimeters, as well as greater energy efficiency and sustainability.
1266
01:13:35.289 --> 01:13:38.229
So yeah, I mean, it's talking about AI integration and
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01:13:38.270 --> 01:13:40.949
satellite network integration.
1268
01:13:42.229 --> 01:13:48.409
The satellite network integration? Dude, this fits my... grand conspiracy
1269
01:13:48.449 --> 01:13:51.789
theory here, which is, you know, if you want to
1270
01:13:51.810 --> 01:13:53.829
be a 10 trillion dollar company, you just, you gotta
1271
01:13:53.850 --> 01:13:57.949
be more than like it chat GPT plus rockets. You know,
1272
01:13:58.609 --> 01:14:03.569
if you can become a telecoms provider, not just internet,
1273
01:14:03.670 --> 01:14:06.949
but cell phone and cell data and internet of things,
1274
01:14:06.989 --> 01:14:11.399
which has been the promise for 20 years. Um, that's dude,
1275
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:14.720
that fits quite well into this little story here.
1276
01:14:14.819 --> 01:14:15.279
Wow.
1277
01:14:16.189 --> 01:14:18.310
Yeah, so I'll do a little bit more digging. Like
1278
01:14:18.350 --> 01:14:20.800
I said, there's a guy who has gone to some
1279
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:23.600
of these. And the think tank meetings that he was
1280
01:14:23.659 --> 01:14:27.119
going to was with some of the direct, maybe not
1281
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.979
the director of the FCC, but people in the Trump
1282
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.159
administration who work very high up in the FCC. And
1283
01:14:34.220 --> 01:14:38.329
they were bringing in partners from allied countries around the
1284
01:14:38.890 --> 01:14:44.840
world to give their equivalent government organizations that, you know,
1285
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.880
the equivalent of the FCC and like the UK and
1286
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:50.899
coming to give a speech on how at like United
1287
01:14:50.970 --> 01:14:55.050
States and their allies are going to pursue this technology
1288
01:14:55.130 --> 01:14:59.329
because in this conception of things, it would be in
1289
01:14:59.390 --> 01:15:03.300
competition to China in competition to Russia. Um, like there
1290
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:05.180
would be some sort of race, kind of maybe a
1291
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:10.800
space race of sorts to control the, um, maybe not
1292
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:14.220
control it, but be able to compete successfully in an
1293
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:18.220
international space. Because if Elon Musk is doing it in
1294
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:22.930
the United States and proposing something like StarMind, I would
1295
01:15:22.939 --> 01:15:23.880
imagine China is.
1296
01:15:24.739 --> 01:15:27.310
Oh, no, yeah. They're building their own constellations that are
1297
01:15:27.329 --> 01:15:29.409
like Starlink. So, yeah. Yeah.
1298
01:15:29.869 --> 01:15:32.069
That becomes very interesting.
1299
01:15:32.369 --> 01:15:34.909
I need to sell my Rocket Lab shares, man. No
1300
01:15:34.970 --> 01:15:37.920
wonder they're pissed at my little Rocket Lab. No wonder
1301
01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:40.399
they're trying to get the FCC to block this merger.
1302
01:15:41.420 --> 01:15:42.439
That's messed up, dude.
1303
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:43.100
Now I'm pissed.
1304
01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:49.100
Yeah, that would be annoying. It sucks to be right
1305
01:15:50.810 --> 01:15:53.750
so right that you're wrong. You know what I mean?
1306
01:15:54.409 --> 01:15:58.109
It sucks to be so on the nose that you
1307
01:15:58.149 --> 01:16:02.380
draw the ire of the elites and then bringing it
1308
01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:03.420
right back to the beginning.
1309
01:16:03.460 --> 01:16:05.819
They're bringing you down, man. They're bringing you down.
1310
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.180
It's so true, man. It's like you just– this guy,
1311
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:12.180
he's– and it's true. He's always sleep deprived, the CEO
1312
01:16:12.260 --> 01:16:16.819
of this company. He's just like playing this masterful game
1313
01:16:16.859 --> 01:16:21.560
of chess. And he just needs someone, his guardian angel
1314
01:16:21.579 --> 01:16:23.680
to come up and say, Peter, Peter, listen to me.
1315
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:27.020
You don't want to win this fight.
1316
01:16:28.489 --> 01:16:28.670
Yeah.
1317
01:16:28.989 --> 01:16:31.210
Cause you'll get your head chopped off. You know, like
1318
01:16:31.270 --> 01:16:34.720
if you win this game, you'll be, you'll be extinguished,
1319
01:16:34.899 --> 01:16:38.640
you know, stay down here in the dirt where you belong. Uh,
1320
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:39.380
it's so funny.
1321
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:40.779
Yeah.
1322
01:16:41.380 --> 01:16:44.050
I also want to circle back to this and this may,
1323
01:16:44.090 --> 01:16:47.210
like I said, this may be completely unrelated. This may
1324
01:16:47.250 --> 01:16:52.229
be my ignorance and I've been interested in this kind
1325
01:16:52.270 --> 01:16:53.909
of fusion thing for a little bit in the role
1326
01:16:53.989 --> 01:16:57.699
out of potential, uh, fusion platforms as a solution to
1327
01:16:57.739 --> 01:17:00.779
some of the power grid stuff. But this was, we
1328
01:17:00.810 --> 01:17:04.909
were talking about, um, data centers being built in South
1329
01:17:04.930 --> 01:17:09.409
central Kentucky. Uh, we were also talking about, um, data
1330
01:17:09.430 --> 01:17:13.569
center being proposed in the municipality of Nashville. And this
1331
01:17:14.930 --> 01:17:18.550
is an article from Clarksville now.com Clarksville is about 45
1332
01:17:18.550 --> 01:17:21.470
minutes North of Nashville. It's right on the border of Kentucky.
1333
01:17:21.850 --> 01:17:26.579
So right kind of in this area. And it's Fort Campbell,
1334
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:31.470
which is a huge military base. It's where the 101st
1335
01:17:31.510 --> 01:17:34.170
Airborne is based out of. So one of the most
1336
01:17:34.229 --> 01:17:38.310
important Army divisions in the country. But the title of
1337
01:17:38.350 --> 01:17:41.689
the article is Five Acre Nuclear Microreactor Power Plant to
1338
01:17:41.710 --> 01:17:44.229
be Built at Fort Campbell. So Fort Campbell has been
1339
01:17:44.289 --> 01:17:47.180
selected as one of five military installations to host an
1340
01:17:47.220 --> 01:17:52.079
advanced next-generation microreactor power plant under the Army's Janus program.
1341
01:17:52.779 --> 01:17:56.060
I have no idea if this is fusion technology, or fission.
1342
01:17:57.539 --> 01:18:00.260
And I'm not sure if the article ever really elaborates,
1343
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:02.659
I would have to look more into what the Army's
1344
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:07.779
Janus program is. But a little bit more information about
1345
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:09.539
the project, because I think it's really interesting that they're
1346
01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:14.079
putting a micro reactor in Fort Campbell. It's also interesting
1347
01:18:14.180 --> 01:18:19.020
from my personal, in my line of work, you know,
1348
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:23.539
the union, I'm in a non-union contractor for electrical but
1349
01:18:23.939 --> 01:18:29.439
the uh union in middle tennessee would most likely be
1350
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:34.319
selected to partner with this and so the opportunity for
1351
01:18:34.590 --> 01:18:37.609
people that i know uh to drop out of my
1352
01:18:37.630 --> 01:18:40.609
non-union shop and go to the union to work on
1353
01:18:40.649 --> 01:18:44.649
this is a really interesting uh you know once in
1354
01:18:44.670 --> 01:18:48.710
a lifetime really opportunity.
1355
01:18:47.149 --> 01:18:48.729
To work on a nuclear.
1356
01:18:48.390 --> 01:18:53.340
Well that's kind of reactor Um, let me just feed
1357
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:56.600
into that kind of related Jared Isaacman, who's the current
1358
01:18:56.640 --> 01:19:00.380
NASA administrator, who is very good friends with and handpicked
1359
01:19:00.460 --> 01:19:04.619
by Elon. There's actually a great TV show about Jared
1360
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:09.180
Isaacman and Elon is called countdown. It's on Netflix. Um,
1361
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:12.260
you should, you, you would, I think enjoy it. It's quite,
1362
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:17.000
it's a hagiography. It makes Elon look like God himself, but, um,
1363
01:19:17.220 --> 01:19:20.180
he's obsessed with nuclear power. And so they're trying to
1364
01:19:20.220 --> 01:19:22.140
put nuclear power on the moon. They're trying to have
1365
01:19:22.180 --> 01:19:25.140
a react, a mini reactor on the moon. And so
1366
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:28.000
I know this sounds unrelated, but NASA will fund a
1367
01:19:28.020 --> 01:19:31.800
lot of the development for earthbound companies, you know, and
1368
01:19:31.859 --> 01:19:35.300
so they'll kind of push technologies and then spin them off.
1369
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:38.890
So I wonder, uh, I don't know if this is
1370
01:19:38.930 --> 01:19:40.529
part of the grand thing.
1371
01:19:40.609 --> 01:19:43.989
Well, we've talked about the integration of the Department of
1372
01:19:44.050 --> 01:19:47.439
Defense with some of these companies. I mean, the Department
1373
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:49.899
of Defense has always been integrated with Lockheed Martin and
1374
01:19:49.939 --> 01:19:52.800
Northrop Grumman and the major defense contractors.
1375
01:19:52.819 --> 01:19:53.000
SpaceX.
1376
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:55.439
Not always, but since the 50s.
1377
01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:59.520
But now you're getting more of these different sorts of
1378
01:19:59.619 --> 01:20:03.020
new age companies also integrating with the department or at
1379
01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:06.140
least getting Department of Defense contracts. So I wouldn't be
1380
01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:11.399
surprised at all. but a little more information. It's the 2.2
1381
01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:14.789
billion project is in close partnership with the defense innovation unit,
1382
01:20:15.010 --> 01:20:19.170
the DIU with the goal of securing uninterrupted resilient power
1383
01:20:19.210 --> 01:20:21.930
for critical defense missions. According to a Fort Campbell news
1384
01:20:21.970 --> 01:20:27.170
release for Campbell, we'll be working with BWX technologies.
1385
01:20:26.369 --> 01:20:29.680
Incorporated to deploy a smaller.
1386
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:34.380
Single 20 megawatt version of its BWXT advanced nuclear reactor.
1387
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:36.579
They make reactors for subs for submarines.
1388
01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:38.560
Well, Yes.
1389
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:42.119
No, that's, like I said, I don't know anything about this,
1390
01:20:42.149 --> 01:20:44.590
so it's very helpful that someone actually that I'm talking
1391
01:20:44.609 --> 01:20:45.310
to does know.
1392
01:20:45.430 --> 01:20:45.829
What it is.
1393
01:20:45.869 --> 01:20:51.789
Dude, I used to trade BWX. I'm going to be pissed. BWXT, right?
1394
01:20:52.510 --> 01:20:53.550
Yeah, BWXT.
1395
01:20:54.930 --> 01:20:58.329
So detailed site characterization, licensing, and design phases will begin
1396
01:20:58.369 --> 01:21:01.939
immediately with groundbreaking projected for late 2028 and reactor operations
1397
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:07.920
expected to commence in the early 2030s. footprint of microreactor, transparency.
1398
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.699
The microreactor will occupy a footprint of less than five
1399
01:21:10.779 --> 01:21:15.760
acres entirely on post. Operating behind the meter, quote-unquote, the
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01:21:15.779 --> 01:21:20.029
facility will be dedicated exclusively to powering mission essential operations
1401
01:21:20.210 --> 01:21:23.590
on Fort Campbell. This allows the installation's national security assets
1402
01:21:23.630 --> 01:21:27.369
to function completely independently from the commercial power grid during
1403
01:21:27.409 --> 01:21:30.909
severe weather events, cyber disruptions, or regional blackouts, the release said.
1404
01:21:31.890 --> 01:21:34.069
We are excited that Fort Campbell was selected to host
1405
01:21:34.109 --> 01:21:37.789
an advanced next-generation microreactor power plant under the Janus program,
1406
01:21:37.829 --> 01:21:41.069
said Major General David W. Gardner, Commanding General of the
1407
01:21:41.569 --> 01:21:45.949
101st Airborne in Fort Campbell. This initiative delivers resilient, 24-7
1408
01:21:45.989 --> 01:21:49.989
power directly to our installation, ensuring critical operations remain secure
1409
01:21:50.020 --> 01:21:53.720
and uninterrupted as we respond to the nation's needs. So
1410
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:56.399
for comparison, here is the power generation of this and
1411
01:21:56.439 --> 01:22:01.899
some nearby power plants. The Fort Campbell microreactor will... has
1412
01:22:01.899 --> 01:22:07.949
20 megawatts worth of power generation. The Cheatham Hydroelectric Dam
1413
01:22:07.970 --> 01:22:13.279
has 36 megawatts. Cumberland Gas Plant, these are all just
1414
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:19.159
local municipal power supplies or whatever. But Cumberland Gas Plant
1415
01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:22.529
has 1,450 megawatts, and the Cumberland Fossil Plant has 2,500 megawatts.
1416
01:22:22.550 --> 01:22:22.890
So nothing.
1417
01:22:26.979 --> 01:22:30.939
Not anything, you know, that's going to replace a city's
1418
01:22:31.050 --> 01:22:31.729
power grid.
1419
01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:34.869
It seems to be, it seems to be about modularity
1420
01:22:34.930 --> 01:22:35.710
and resilience.
1421
01:22:36.689 --> 01:22:36.970
Yeah.
1422
01:22:37.710 --> 01:22:41.029
And it seems like something that is a program they
1423
01:22:41.069 --> 01:22:45.220
are looking to begin and then expand upon.
1424
01:22:46.260 --> 01:22:47.699
Granted, it's successful.
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My, my, just a heads up, my computer might die people.
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So if we stop talking all of a sudden, just,
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It was nice chatting with you. Maybe plug our stuff
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01:22:57.510 --> 01:23:01.130
in case we run out of battery. Do we have
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01:23:01.189 --> 01:23:02.810
anything to plug? Do we have a website?
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Hemisphericpress.com is a website that we have. There's not a
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01:23:08.970 --> 01:23:11.079
ton to it, but it's a great place to go
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if you want.
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To just go to a website.
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01:23:12.539 --> 01:23:14.960
Great pitch. I'm captivated.
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Hemisphericpress.substack.com. We are over 100 subscribers. We finally did it,
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ladies and gentlemen. We have our latest post, which is
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01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:30.920
from a friend of the show, sometimes always here, Bradley.
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And I think his post has smashed the record for
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01:23:35.979 --> 01:23:38.090
views and likes.
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01:23:38.100 --> 01:23:40.710
Thank goodness for him. There'd be nothing on there.
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01:23:41.770 --> 01:23:42.090
What's that?
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01:23:42.210 --> 01:23:44.409
Yeah, true.
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01:23:44.829 --> 01:23:47.689
That's what, since I've been editing, I have lost the
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01:23:47.729 --> 01:23:52.329
ability to research videos. in post, but thankfully we have
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01:23:52.630 --> 01:23:55.210
Bradley and he's been crushing it and wants to write
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01:23:55.250 --> 01:23:57.850
more and he's going to continue to publish articles.
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01:23:58.649 --> 01:24:01.420
So we're going to, and we're going to post some
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01:24:01.460 --> 01:24:02.020
different stuff.
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01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:04.899
I've got some, I've got some bullets in the chamber.
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01:24:05.140 --> 01:24:05.760
You know what I mean?
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01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:08.760
I've got some stuff that if I ever get around
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to it, that we're going to post.
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01:24:11.420 --> 01:24:14.010
Uh, so yeah, It's a place to be.
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01:24:14.090 --> 01:24:16.430
Is there, do we have anything else to pitch? If
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01:24:16.449 --> 01:24:18.310
someone wants to write a book, should they email you?
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01:24:18.329 --> 01:24:19.970
What should they do? Or are we done taking books?
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01:24:20.050 --> 01:24:20.989
Are we full of books?
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01:24:21.569 --> 01:24:24.090
For right now? I mean, you're always welcome to email me.
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01:24:24.130 --> 01:24:25.989
I love, would love to hear about your book idea.
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01:24:26.300 --> 01:24:29.640
If you have a whole draft, I'm willing to glance
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01:24:29.699 --> 01:24:33.260
at it. Currently a little bit full on the editing schedule.
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01:24:33.659 --> 01:24:34.640
Okay.
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01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:38.760
But that might free up in the near future.
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01:24:38.939 --> 01:24:41.520
So if you're not, trying to publish your book in
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01:24:41.539 --> 01:24:44.500
the next four months and you're willing to kind of
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01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:47.119
explore options and want to have a conversation, always willing
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01:24:47.149 --> 01:24:49.649
to have a conversation, you can email me at hemisphericpress
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01:24:49.689 --> 01:24:54.390
at gmail.com or editor at hemisphericpress.com since we now have
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01:24:54.430 --> 01:24:56.529
a website again and are paying for an email.
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01:24:57.569 --> 01:25:00.449
Yeah, so let's use it. I would like to encourage
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people to check out the God's Eye View podcast. This
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01:25:03.090 --> 01:25:05.590
is my solo show. I just interviewed, I know you
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01:25:05.930 --> 01:25:08.739
guys have been posting a lot of Shakespeare stuff I
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01:25:08.760 --> 01:25:13.000
just interviewed a Shakespeare guy, Robert Frederick. God, the dude
1475
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:19.140
is a captivating speaker. Like he can just keep you
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01:25:19.260 --> 01:25:23.199
on the edge, keep you hooked. He's very engaging. So
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01:25:23.220 --> 01:25:29.270
check that out. And yeah, so anyway, so back to
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01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:30.239
what you were talking about. I just want to get
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01:25:30.270 --> 01:25:31.710
that out of the way in case my computer dies,
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01:25:31.729 --> 01:25:36.369
which it might. That's super fascinating. And I have to
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01:25:36.409 --> 01:25:37.390
believe it's all connected.
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01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:38.680
Yeah.
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01:25:39.699 --> 01:25:42.640
It feels like a coordinated, like this issue that you mentioned,
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and this is something that we've talked about before, the
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01:25:44.819 --> 01:25:51.189
issue of power, the issue of the grid is unsustainable.
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01:25:51.250 --> 01:25:53.529
The way that we are doing things currently is unsustainable
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and is becoming very unsustainable very quickly.
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You know, what's funny is it's, it is very sustainable.
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If we just wouldn't be plugging 15 million square foot
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data centers into it, you know what I mean? Yeah.
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01:26:07.210 --> 01:26:09.859
Someone said, I heard someone in an interview say AI
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is inevitable and I'm like, it's so many things, but inevitable.
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01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:18.399
It's the opposite of inevitable, like inevitable things don't need
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01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:21.819
taxpayer subsidies. You know what I mean? Like, like this
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01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:25.100
is why you subsidize farmers because enough food for the
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01:26:25.140 --> 01:26:27.500
country is not inevitable. You know, it takes a lot
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01:26:27.539 --> 01:26:31.939
of work effort. Like AI is not inevitable, but, um, Oh,
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do my set, you want some pasta, bud? Okay. Okay,
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I got to wrap up. My son is hungry. Everybody,
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01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:42.319
thanks for listening. I feel like if we were legit,
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01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:44.819
this could be like written up into a cool white
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01:26:44.859 --> 01:26:47.899
paper or something. If I do say so myself, I
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01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:51.939
feel like this was insightful. I hope everyone else agrees. David,
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01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:56.159
my friend, thank you. Any closing words of wisdom?
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01:26:57.319 --> 01:26:58.500
No, I don't think so.
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01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:01.399
Like I said, I'll try and get around to maybe
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when I'm at work, I'll try and do a little
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bit of research.
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Um, since sometimes I have a little bit of downtime, so.
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Don't, don't, don't overexert yourself, man. I mean, it's fine.
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01:27:12.430 --> 01:27:16.399
Our people are used to, to look pretty low level. Yeah.
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Well, I just, in terms of having stuff to talk
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about it and so that I'm not just a, not
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01:27:22.020 --> 01:27:25.420
a complete idiot when you're talking all sorts of.
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01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:28.920
I like, I like sharing information. I feel bad that
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01:27:28.939 --> 01:27:32.260
you're just like a unwilling victim. You just have to
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01:27:32.300 --> 01:27:36.090
listen to my spiel, but, I'm a lecturer by trade.
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01:27:37.010 --> 01:27:40.109
I enjoy disseminating information.
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01:27:40.210 --> 01:27:41.649
I enjoy it too. I learned a lot.
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01:27:42.310 --> 01:27:45.949
So yeah, I'll just very quickly, the last thing, I'll
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01:27:45.970 --> 01:27:49.079
put this in your mind. So VWXT is not the
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01:27:49.220 --> 01:27:52.920
only one who's involved in these. Like each site got
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01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:54.199
a different.
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01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:55.619
Company.
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01:27:56.319 --> 01:28:01.050
And so the other companies involved is Antares Nuclear Incorporated.
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That's at Fort Bragg.
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01:28:02.550 --> 01:28:07.350
General Atomics Electromagnetic Systems is in Fort Hood. Radiant Industries
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01:28:07.409 --> 01:28:10.369
is in Fort Benning. And then Westinghouse Government Services is
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01:28:10.430 --> 01:28:11.109
in Fort Drum.
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01:28:11.289 --> 01:28:14.989
Dude, all the military bases are getting fission reactors. That's nuts.
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01:28:15.449 --> 01:28:18.689
I do sense something coming. So my company that I love,
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01:28:18.829 --> 01:28:24.369
Rocket Lab, their biggest customer is the Space Force and
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01:28:24.390 --> 01:28:30.119
the Defense Department doing hypersonic missile interception. Just like Tons
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01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:34.020
of tests and millions and millions of dollars. And it
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01:28:34.020 --> 01:28:37.760
really does seem like admit you know maybe they're just
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01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:40.500
being responsible you know but it really does seem like
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01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:47.680
we are preparing for something yeah dun dun dun.
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01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:53.510
Yeah it's pretty crazy like it may live in interesting
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01:28:53.529 --> 01:28:57.770
times we do we do i mean i mean isn't
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01:28:57.829 --> 01:29:00.710
that isn't that the truth trevor if.
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01:29:00.850 --> 01:29:04.020
Every military base has its own nuclear reactor, we get
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01:29:04.060 --> 01:29:07.579
really good at shooting that shooting down hypersonic missiles. Like,
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01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:10.880
I don't know. It seems a little like we are headed,
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01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:16.420
headed for interesting times indeed. So until then though, we
1545
01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:20.350
get to just have fun and have our little podcast.
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01:29:20.430 --> 01:29:23.729
So thanks everybody for listening. Is your show. I'll let
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01:29:23.750 --> 01:29:24.250
you sign off.
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01:29:24.970 --> 01:29:28.649
No, uh, appreciate it.
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01:29:28.649 --> 01:29:28.909
Everyone.
1550
01:29:29.500 --> 01:29:31.920
And yeah, go check out the Substack. We're going to
1551
01:29:31.939 --> 01:29:35.850
have more stuff. Go check out Trevor's podcast, God's Eye View.
1552
01:29:36.250 --> 01:29:40.010
And maybe, just maybe, you might be able to find
1553
01:29:40.069 --> 01:29:43.630
both of those things in the same place kind of soon.
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01:29:44.069 --> 01:29:46.930
Substack. Oh, by the way, if anyone hears, when I'm
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01:29:46.949 --> 01:29:50.029
not here, and this is for the audience, when I'm
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01:29:50.069 --> 01:29:53.439
not here to keep my eye on what's happening around here,
1557
01:29:53.489 --> 01:29:57.970
just if David plays copyrighted music, I want you to
1558
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:01.010
send him a text message because we did get a
1559
01:30:01.029 --> 01:30:04.729
copyright strike because David was, did you play Ludacris? What happened?
1560
01:30:04.770 --> 01:30:05.350
Explain yourself.
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01:30:05.369 --> 01:30:10.409
I don't even remember or know. I don't think that
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01:30:10.729 --> 01:30:12.609
I ever uttered any Ludacris.
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01:30:12.689 --> 01:30:15.090
I was sent a recording that I didn't listen to.
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01:30:15.170 --> 01:30:17.670
So I just took it at face value. So maybe not,
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01:30:17.829 --> 01:30:20.420
but it seems like maybe you did.
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01:30:20.430 --> 01:30:24.409
Maybe there was some sort of YouTube video. Yeah, probably.
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01:30:24.430 --> 01:30:27.220
I don't think it was a, large clip of the
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01:30:27.229 --> 01:30:30.180
song i'm kind of surprised they're they must be pretty
1569
01:30:30.220 --> 01:30:34.239
astute observers for them to find out and for neither
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01:30:34.300 --> 01:30:36.779
of the hosts to have any sort of awareness.
1571
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:39.140
Yeah it's all a i think it's all ai driven
1572
01:30:39.180 --> 01:30:41.159
at this point well if if he does something like
1573
01:30:41.189 --> 01:30:43.090
that again when i'm not here i want you guys
1574
01:30:43.149 --> 01:30:46.390
to to yell at him send him angry emails do
1575
01:30:46.409 --> 01:30:48.350
you even have an email how do people reach.
1576
01:30:48.189 --> 01:30:53.630
You atmospheric press at gmail.com and i will try to
1577
01:30:53.689 --> 01:30:56.750
check it relatively frequently All right.
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01:30:56.810 --> 01:31:02.590
With that vote of confidence, with that serious conviction, we
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are signing off, David. Thank you very much. Talk soon. Bye, everybody.
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Thanks, buddy.