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Welcome to All Teach, All Listen, Beyond the ECHO, examining public health challenges through an interdisciplinary lens, amplifying diverse voices, encouraging critical thinking, and promoting collaborative civic action across the healthcare system. For our fifth episode of the season, hosted by Sean Cuddihy, we shift focus to older adults in New Jersey with Dr. Joshua Raymond and Dr. Cathy Rowe discussing efforts to improve aging, care, and community supports.
They explore barriers like ageism, affordability, transportation, and housing, and highlight age‑friendly hospital initiatives, a new Medicaid palliative care benefit, workforce challenges, and the push for a multi‑sector plan for aging. Learn where to find resources and how communities, healthcare, business, and government can work together to enable aging well in New Jersey.
This podcast is powered by the Eagleton Institute of Politics as part of Democracy Week 2025.
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Welcome to All Teach, All Listen, Beyond the ECHO, examining public health
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challenges through an interdisciplinary lens, amplifying diverse voices,
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encouraging critical thinking, and promoting collaborative civic action across the healthcare system.
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Each episode pairs professionals from different disciplines to model how cooperation,
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This podcast is powered by the Eagleton Institute of Politics as part of Democracy Week 2025.
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I'm your host, Sean Cuddihy. For our fifth episode of the season,
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we wanted to shift our focus to older adults in New Jersey.
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We are joined by Dr. Joshua Raymond and Dr. Cathy Rowe to discuss the work that
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is being done to improve the lives of older adults.
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Before we get started, I'll introduce our speakers a little bit more.
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Dr. Raymond is a professor of medicine at Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.
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He is board certified in family medicine, holds a certificate of added qualification
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in geriatric medicine, as well as
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a certificate of added qualification in palliative care and hospice care.
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He has been the medical director at the Manor Nursing Facility for the last
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10 years, medical director of Parker Somerset and faculty in Parker Division
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of Geriatrics within the Department of Family Medicine at Rutgers Robert Wood
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Johnson Medical School.
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Dr. Raymond is on the board of directors for New Jersey Advocates for Aging
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Well, and he is the former president of the New Jersey Long-Term Care Leaders Association.
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He is also a former president of the New Jersey Medical Directors Association.
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He was also chosen by the New Jersey Hospital Association to be on the Pulse
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Steering Committee for the creation of the New Jersey State Pulse Form.
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We are also joined by Dr. Rowe, who is the executive director of New Jersey
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Advocates for Aging Well, a non-profit focused on the needs and solutions for
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New Jersey's older residents.
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Dr. Rowe has extensive experience in healthcare and public health,
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working with underserved populations, chronic illness, and food insecurity before
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focusing on aging and establishing age-friendly communities.
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Dr. Rowe earned her DRPH in health policy and management from Columbia University,
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where she received a fellowship in public policy.
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Her bachelor's is in economics from Bates College. Thank you both for joining.
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So let's get started with some questions. Both of you are clearly passionate
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about health and quality of life for older adults based on your bios and getting to know you.
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How did you both get into this field?
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And give us a little bit of history of why you're so interested in this work.
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Dr. Raymond, we'll start with you.
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Sure. Thanks. Thanks, Sean. I come from a family medicine background.
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Before medical school, I did a master of public health and had some real keen
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interest and just in the environment and how public health really influences
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people's health and how they age.
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I went to medical school down in Philadelphia at Jefferson and did a fellowship
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at Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.
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And during that time, really focused on people outside of the hospital,
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in the outpatient setting, as well as in nursing homes and the assisted living.
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And it really became evident that the environment and the quality of life was
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what was so important for people's health and really focus on the combination
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of environment and health for successful aging. Dr. Rowe, how about you?
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Sure. Well, I also have a background in public health. And, you know,
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in public health, aging is the goal.
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If everything else is working, that's our goal, to have long and healthy lives.
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And, you know, we've made so much progress over the last 50 to 75 years.
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When you think about it, we probably all know, we have family members or neighbors
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or know people who remember the time before vaccines, when they lined up at
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school and got their polio vaccine on a sugar cube.
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It's incredible how much progress we've made in the last 75 years that help us live longer.
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So I think that aging is really the success story in public health and all the
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progress that we've made.
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So as we see all this progress being made, I'm sure new challenges are emerging for older adults.
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Dr. Raymond, maybe you could kick us off with some of the unique challenges
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that are facing older adults.
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Sure. As we age, they're really a combination of medical issues,
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social issues, environmental issues that make it more challenging to remain in place in New Jersey.
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The nuclear family maybe isn't as prevalent now as it once was,
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and things like transportation becomes very important for people's health,
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as well as access to food and access to social activities.
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Yeah. And I think that globally, ageism is the biggest challenge overall.
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You know, we've eliminated so many other isms from our vocabulary and what we do.
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But for some reason, we still hold on to these outdated ideas and stereotypes.
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We don't lump any other group together like we do with older adults.
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So we're, you know, we're talking about people, let's say, from 60 to 80, 90, 95.
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We can't assume that they're all the same and have the common needs and the
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common health status at any time.
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So we really need to, you know, let go of these stereotypes and stop trying
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to treat all older people the same as if, you know, they have the same needs and desires.
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But in New Jersey, specifically, affordability is one of our biggest challenges.
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And like Dr. Raymond said, it's It's not just the health care,
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it's transportation, it's the housing.
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And I think one of the things that New Jersey does really well is we have really
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great support systems for people that qualify for programs by certain income
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eligibility, and that is wonderful.
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And most people don't qualify, but they still need help.
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So we need to expand and look at more than, you know, this is your cutoff line
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or a one size fit all, and start looking at how do we really meet the needs
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of a wider range of needs for a wider range of people.
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I think a lot of people might be asking, why now? Why is it so important for
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us to be addressing these challenges when there's so many other things that
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we can be looking at in the world of health care and public health?
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Dr. Raymond, any thoughts?
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Well, great question. As the demographics of our state changes,
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right, and there's going to be more people over the age of 60 than there are in school.
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So preparing transportation, access to health care, access to food becomes more
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and more relevant and important because so many people in our state will be
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needing these services.
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Yeah. And I think a lot of what applies for older adults applies for people at all ages.
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Like for transportation, nobody really plans for when they're not going to be
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able to drive or not be comfortable driving.
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But we also have younger people who just aren't getting their licenses like they used to.
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So we could look at how do we separate older people and their needs and get
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them. Or we can look at how do we change our transportation so that it works
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for everybody, including older adults.
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When people ask, you know, what they should do for aging, I say they should
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have a plan and a backup plan.
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And then probably even a third plan because we don't know what's going to happen.
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One of our board members, Carl Archer, is an elder care lawyer.
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And he said people make plans for retirement, but not for growing older.
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So, you know, when we don't, if we succumb to ageism and the othering of older
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adults, we're really discriminating against our future selves.
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So, you know, let's split the conversation a little bit. And,
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you know, hopefully everybody is expecting to live into their 60s, 70s, 80s.
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So start thinking about what do you want for yourself and not just what you
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think, you know, your older relatives or neighbors might want now.
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Dr. Ray, you brought up a lot of great points about how a lot of different professionals
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need to be involved in improving outcomes for older adults. What's really the
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importance of healthcare providers, Dr.
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Raymond, working with other industries to improve outcomes for older adults?
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You know, Sean, besides other industries, other disciplines,
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really, as a geriatrician, I work with physical therapists, with occupational
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therapists, with dieticians, and this is part of the healthcare team that optimizes
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an individual's quality of life.
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But besides that, thinking outside of the hospital and outside of healthcare
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settings, other resources are very important. For example, food delivery.
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And it's interesting to see how seniors in New Jersey are adapting with DoorDash
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or with Amazon having goods delivered to their home.
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So it really, it's important to think creatively about resources to keep people
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in their home and optimize their quality of life.
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Yeah, I would say that exactly. And we have to rethink longevity.
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And it's not just about needs.
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Like, you know, with food, it's not just people that can't afford food.
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It's maybe you don't drive. Maybe you can't, for whatever reason, can't get out.
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So we have to rethink longevity and what we can do to enable people to age in place, right?
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There's no way that we can or should build retirement communities for everybody.
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That's not realistic, and that's not what everybody wants.
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And one of the things that I think often gets overlooked is the role of the
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older consumer, because the fact is actually that older adults have more disposable
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income and they tend to spend locally.
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So let's look at them as consumers and also as older workers.
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We're involved with a program now to promote age-friendly employment in New Jersey.
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And like Dr. Raymond said before, we have more people over 60 than in the classroom.
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So what does that mean for the future of the workforce.
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Business and employers need to get on board and start thinking of that.
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How do we keep people working longer? How do we increase our flexibility?
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So, you know, we just need to rethink the whole thing outside of healthcare
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and outside of a needs-based system to what's the role of older people in our entire economy.
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There has been a lot of partnership outside of healthcare and public health
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and the state and government, including private businesses.
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Can you explain how private businesses are also working to improve outcomes for older adults?
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Yeah, I think that private businesses, well, one, they're realizing there's
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potential for private business with our aging population.
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So one of the really fun things that we just did, we had a community challenge
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grant through ARP last year, and we hosted a housing design competition.
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You know, in New Jersey, several municipalities are looking at accessory dwelling
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units or changing their building code to meet the missing middle.
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And we had some fantastic submissions, very creative, on housing units that
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are appealing not just for older residents, but for people of all ages.
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I've come to realize that what I would want in my last house to downsize is
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the same thing my 25-year-old son is looking for for his first house.
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You know, the first house and last house, really the same thing.
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So once again, it's, you know, this doesn't just apply for aging.
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What's good for older adults is really good for everybody.
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And I think that, you know, private business is starting to recognize that.
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Are you aware of anything going on right now that is kind of modeling how this should be happening?
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Sure. You know, Sean, that's a great question. And the Centers for Medicare
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and Medicaid Services, who pays for Medicare across the entire country,
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started an initiative for the age-friendly movement inside hospitals.
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And every hospital in the United States will now be graded on how they perform
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with the 4Ms, what matters, medication, mentation, and mobility.
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And it's great to see all of the resources being dedicated to optimizing individuals
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and coming up with a very individualized care plan when they're leaving the hospital.
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So it's really taking on in healthcare settings.
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And I think one of the important things that New Jersey has done is really expanded
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our age-friendly communities, starting from a few communities in northern Jersey
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that were funded by private philanthropy.
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The state has made a commitment to expand age-friendly communities,
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and they focus on eight domains that the World Health Organization has designated
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as important, including the built environment, public places,
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transportation, housing, social engagement.
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Again, things that really apply to everyone and make communities better for all residents.
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And one of the important things that's going on now, New Jersey has a Medicaid
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palliative care benefit that's going to go live on April 1st.
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And our partners at Goals of Care Coalition have done a tremendous job,
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along with the state legislature, to bring that to fruition.
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And that's going to give thousands and thousands of New Jersey residents with
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more expanded care options and choices.
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So we have, you know, really important changes being made on that front with
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our health care options.
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And we also have a growing effort to expand the direct care workforce.
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There's a shortage of direct care workers. There was a New Jersey before COVID. COVID made it worse.
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And with a growing aging population, there's going to be more need.
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So both the Essential Jobs, Essential Care Coalition and the Depart has been working in this area.
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And the Department of Human Services just released the direct care work for
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strategic plan, which can make a really big impact on the future needs as we go forward.
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So there is a lot going on in New Jersey that's preparing us.
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You know, Cathy, that's really important. These are legislation that's making this happen.
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So it's so important to be involved with this and really advocating for seniors in our state.
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That's the perfect segue to the next question. I know both of you are very involved
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with pushing for a multi-sector plan for aging.
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Can you explain what that is and how that exactly will improve the lives of older adults?
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I don't know if that makes more sense for Dr. Rowe to go first.
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Sure, I'll take that one first.
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So first, a multi-sector plan for aging or an MPA,
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it's a 10-year blueprint for restructuring state and local policies and convening
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a wide range of cross-sector stakeholders to collaboratively address the needs
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of older adult populations.
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They're designed to create more of a coordinated system of high-quality care
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and support services that promote healthy aging,
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independent living, and engagement, while they also address the issues that
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are related to health care, to housing, transportation, and other social determinants of health.
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So every state develops its own multi-sectional plan on aging based on its unique
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characters, its history, their resources.
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What to me is one of the best, most promising things about this,
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this is not a political issue because aging is not political.
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It's red state, blue state. We're all aging.
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But looking at and preparing in advance for how are we going to work with our
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shifting demographics?
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How do we get ahead of this? How do we prepare for, you know,
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the day when we're already on the cusp, when our retirees outnumber our students?
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Let's look at it now. And New Jersey has been involved with a learning cohort
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from Center for Healthcare Strategies, with learning from other states,
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getting technical assistance on how we could do it.
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And we also have a campaign called Lifelong Strong New Jersey campaign,
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which is actively calling for the new administration to adopt a multi-sector
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plan. And I think that it's, I think we're right on the edge of that.
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I think it's very possible and plausible because the new administration is so
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focused on affordability, which is really, you know, at the heart of our aging challenges.
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Can people afford to age well in New Jersey?
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So it's aligning very well. And we really hope that in the next few months,
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we have a commitment for New Jersey to move forward with a multi-sector plan.
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So with a better understanding of what a multi-sector plan for aging is and
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the possibility of that happening soon,
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what is something that individuals in various professions, in healthcare,
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in public health, what can they do right now to advocate for a multi-sector
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plan on aging or for just improved conditions for older adults?
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You know, Sean, I'll take that one first. At Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical
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School and Parker Health Group, we are promoting education for seniors in the medical school.
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And it's in all comers. Besides medical students really advocating for education
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for a physical therapist, for nurse practitioners, for pharmacists,
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for nurses' aides, and really open learners' eyes about opportunities,
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taking care of seniors, and really the benefit that they can provide.
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For these individuals and really the satisfaction that is given by providing
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that care to a needing population.
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Well, first, go to the Lifelong Strong website, which is lifelongstrongnj.org,
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where we've got resources and links for national efforts and what other states
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are doing where people can learn more.
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And then next, people should really understand the demographic shift that we're
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talking about and what that entails, what it will require.
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But I think the most important is to take a look at your clients,
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your community, both professionally and personally, and take a look at what
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people need and want to age in New Jersey.
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And like, what do you need to age well in New Jersey?
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What do you want to see in place for your grandparents, your parents,
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or yourself in 20, 30, 40 years?
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Right now, we've got 1.6 million residents over the age of 60.
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So that's 1.6 million reasons to start looking at this and move forward with a multi-sector plan.
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And, you know, this is, we all want to be there. We all want to have long and
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healthy lives. So let's start working on this now.
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So we are approaching the end of the recording. But before I get into the last
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question, is there anything else that either of you wanted to talk about that
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maybe we didn't discuss in the written questions?
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But maybe what I could say instead is it's more important to be training a younger
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population for the awareness of caring for seniors and the opportunities that
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are there and really promoting the next generation of caregivers to care for
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those individuals in New Jersey.
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And I think that I'm very hopeful. I think we're so close to adopting an MPA.
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I think it aligns with the new administration's goals on affordability.
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And I think that, I mean, personally, by the time if the current governor has
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a second term, I will be retiring then.
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So I really think that we'll have things in place so that I can retire well and enjoy New Jersey.
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Nice, Dr. Rowe. That's one thing to be hopeful about. Dr. Raymond,
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is there something that you're hopeful about as we approach spring this year?
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I'm really looking forward to the rollout of the aging-friendly initiatives
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in hospitals and also the outpatient Medicaid palliative care benefit and seeing
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how that affects the care of seniors in New Jersey.
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And if people want to, you know, learn more about what's going on with aging
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in New Jersey, because we have so many great efforts underway.
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The New Jersey Advocates for Aging Well Conference is May 8th in Princeton,
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New Jersey. Details will be on our website at njaaw.org.
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That was a wonderful conversation. We certainly covered a lot.
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We discussed how the population of older adults in New Jersey is continuing
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to grow and how important environment play a role in aging well.
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We discussed that ageism, lack of transportation, and the affordability crisis
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are a problem not just for older adults, but really the entire population,
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and working to address these needs.
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Everyone in New Jersey. We discussed the need for interdisciplinary work from
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healthcare providers, public health professionals, private industry,
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and government to really work together to create better outcomes for all.
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We discussed what a multi-sector plan for aging is and how that could benefit
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older adults in New Jersey.
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And we discussed some things to be hopeful about as we look to the future.
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We have some wonderful resources that will be listed in a resource We're stocking
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it within the description of this episode.
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If you want to dive deeper into this and other critical public health topics,
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make sure you join us on one of our Echo Series.
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We just wrapped up our Getting Older in New Jersey Echo Series.
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If you're interested in learning about that, you can visit our website.
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Keep up with New Jersey Advocates for Aging Well by visiting their website,
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njaaw.org, where you can view events, services, resources, and news related to older adults.
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As I mentioned a full list of resources and items discussed today can be found
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in the document within the description of this episode Thank you again to our
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amazing guests and thank you for listening.