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Pete Hall: Welcome to the Transformative Principal.
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I am so excited to share this interview from ISTE 2026 with you.
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Really fascinating things happening there.
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Lots of great people, and over the course of the next couple weeks, you're gonna hear some of these great interviews.
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Hope you enjoy, and thanks for listening to Transformative Principal
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Jethro D. Jones: All right.
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So we're here
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ASTE twenty twenty-six, here with, Simon and Jill from, ClassVR.
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Welcome.
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Tell what you guys going on and a little bit about
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Simon: CS with
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ClassVR us and a yourselves.
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you
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Jill: is for it's my first one.
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an It's so
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Simon: of
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and so what we do, I mean, it's very exciting for us at the moment.
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I think we… Over the years, we've, always evolved brought out new products when at and, and, you know, other trade shows.
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This one I think is quite exceptional for us, in we I
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we are
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I
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we
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we've
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to ISTE other is quite us of
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Jethro D. Jones: have.
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Yeah.
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Let's hear the
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That's good.
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great when there's a whole bunch
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vanguard
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when we get to hear the really good stuff, that's what I like,
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Simon: This is it
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that's what I like.
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This is it.
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And like I'm, so,
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got
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know, work and
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personal
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get the like like to able
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product actually launched months
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about th
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different things and Thrive is largely about close
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supporting students who struggle with
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have a
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huge on
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teacher,
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I used to regularly
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Thrive.
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is and
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regulation the
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it came us as we were, know,
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we were
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planning out what was
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some usage there for VR already kind
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lucky
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dysregulation supporting children being ready I just thought you know
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we, thought team it was a really exciting,
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we thought that there was out
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children ready learn just you as a
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be, whatever they need at any, any given
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we
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which is kind of flagship element
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um sensory for
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children that's totally customizable.
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like possibility you have a set
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sounds
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it
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a
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a
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of
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thinking about the room,
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if you
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that product has got empathy too, and, life skills, soft skills
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all, you know, an all around inclusion support
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thinking how to
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Jethro D. Jones: the good.
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talk
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oh, hold on just b-before go
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empathy
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and I think
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you but I like think of that differently.
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People call soft skills.
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So Oh Yeah way I about they're
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you skills
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think about that like that because organic means
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of word
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skills are doing over time.
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And you're gonna have
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the
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about they're organic
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probably same
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like organic that it's
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when you're five, when
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and those
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doing over
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you're have a
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and changes time, and that not supposed
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you probably have
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once I've learned to ride a that's a skill that know.
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But, when you're knowing when right time to ride a bike is
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over
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skill that changes and develops
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learned
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Simon: bike, that's a
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like what, they change, what, you know what I
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time to when I
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skill that and
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Exactly very, very, different world.
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And think there's something
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and what
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like
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power of VR
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change
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really
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what, what thought was a
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is, students being able try out
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well,
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Judgmentfree
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that from
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to these soft
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would've benefited
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have
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Jethro D. Jones: all curated
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are you excited about?
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Jill: that would benefited from opportunity to
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I'm very excited about fact that we're previewing our STEM library
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been huge
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about Well um
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which ultimately was a move
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with Accelerate
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we had went into the of ISTE that allowed that level, new level Accelerate headset
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for us
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learning anything from, you know, welding in, in one class using
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interview techniques and where speaking and
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then taken it to another
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in practice interview and taken
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full package together
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kids the opportunity do all of those amazing experiments that
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to not get in classrooms today for lots of different
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budget, safety re- you safety the fact they can move from doing, you know, chemistry experiment, you know, when the magnesium lights
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today
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of budget
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ultimate dissection that we've all probably experienced- many years ago, but the smell- I think a real benefit.
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but yeah, that library is, like,
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really something exciting that I that the,
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years
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are crying out for.
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and the
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is
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a benefit
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Yeah yeah, thrilled and excited about
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Jethro D. Jones: yeah, really good, that's, crying for will just
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and
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learn just about any skill
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really better in
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environment, and that's
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is that, that I find really promising about the technology.
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And, you know, I think there's still a ways go figure out how to make it
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do it well and, effectively
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I really so what are some of your thoughts about how
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there's to, figure out how make so
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in doing VR what, would be
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cost
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how you started"?
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Do need to learn
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And so of your you need to buy a bunch sets?
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Like,
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Simon: I mean, so for, for specifically, 'cause we're an like
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how you
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it yourself
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so you get all of
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of
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sets what's
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VR
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pros and cons to them.
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company, a full
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solution if anything, our advice
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a onestop shop you
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which
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drive in terms of learning, understanding what that headset
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Understanding how you
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ClassVR stuff
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how you've lit it's essentially a very
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off it
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completely immersive and I think,
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questioning, how you've
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the opportunity
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have any
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essentially
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15 minutes focus, very difficult to think about anything else when you're doing VR.
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so you've
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think the technology itself is
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do
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VR…
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use in school, they were pains tell me again and again how simple they found
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the room.
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I was speaking to
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me, it is then all who now you've got it and got it going
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to found
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because
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for is
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time poor, have- haven't got the time think and sit, like I now luckily get do, about how to
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sometimes
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Jethro D. Jones: Anything you'd add,
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Jill: to
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that… yeah, what Simon is saying is ultimately what we do is we come with a full solution, you know, so we ultimately
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Joanne
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tech and walk away.
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You know, that is… We're, we're kind white gloving have full training and onboarding, and then we're there at
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journey encouraging them to, to use it and
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know
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the more they
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more they realize how they can bring it their full training
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onboarding and there at every step creating more and more content, there's always something new
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Simon: it, it's
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well explorable scenes and then interactive
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like relatively know, much broader wider
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wherever you are
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visual
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medium
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the way through to full models as well as then interactive the, Six 度
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I
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talking about here that
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I think there's something we
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complete sort of VR
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say,
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But I get, would get equal joy
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listen the, apps
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learning in the right way
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So wherever you're sitting
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you c
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get from
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think
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there's something
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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One things I appreciate you saying is that the content is really tight.
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learning is probably about
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as
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long there
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something have of I
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extent of can do.
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And
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the To me, the good thing is that if you're doing a simulation
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experimenting with something trying is probably fast
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the you you get it and
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the, good and you don't need
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or, experimenting 15
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is also cool.
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So, this has been awesome talking with you both.
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so much.
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Thanks so
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00012_JethrodeP: much
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Simon: for having
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.
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How do people get, more information about ClassVR?
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Jill: q- Well, yeah.
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Well, obviously anyone that is at the show and they can
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this has awesome talking
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this time, we're on
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us
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miss us.
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very orange,
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obviously
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the website is got all our information.
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and, and make a, you know, an old-fashioned telephone call to the office to chat
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best thing
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but
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and talk about it.
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Jethro D. Jones: is information
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Jill: No, thank you so
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much.
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Pete Hall: Welcome to the Transformative Principal.
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I am so excited to share this interview from ISTE 2026 with you.
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Really fascinating things happening there.
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Lots of great people, and over the course of the next couple weeks, you're gonna hear some of these great interviews.
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Hope you enjoy, and thanks for listening to Transformative Principal
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Jethro D. Jones: All right.
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So we're here
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ASTE twenty twenty-six, here with, Simon and Jill from, ClassVR.
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Welcome.
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Tell what you guys going on and a little bit about
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Simon: CS with
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ClassVR us and a yourselves.
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you
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Jill: is for it's my first one.
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an It's so
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Simon: of
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and so what we do, I mean, it's very exciting for us at the moment.
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I think we… Over the years, we've, always evolved brought out new products when at and, and, you know, other trade shows.
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This one I think is quite exceptional for us, in we I
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Jethro D. Jones: have.
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Yeah.
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Let's hear the
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That's good.
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great when there's a whole bunch
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vanguard
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when we get to hear the really good stuff, that's what I like,
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Simon: This is it
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that's what I like.
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This is it.
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And like I'm, so,
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got
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know, work and
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personal
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get the like like to able
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product actually launched months
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about th
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different things and Thrive is largely about close
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supporting students who struggle with
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have a
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huge on
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teacher,
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I used to regularly
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Thrive.
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is and
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regulation the
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it came us as we were, know,
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we were
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planning out what was
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some usage there for VR already kind
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lucky
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dysregulation supporting children being ready I just thought you know
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we, thought team it was a really exciting,
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we thought that there was out
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children ready learn just you as a
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be, whatever they need at any, any given
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we
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which is kind of flagship element
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um sensory for
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children that's totally customizable.
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like possibility you have a set
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sounds
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it
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a
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a
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of
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thinking about the room,
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if you
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that product has got empathy too, and, life skills, soft skills
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all, you know, an all around inclusion support
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thinking how to
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Jethro D. Jones: the good.
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talk
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oh, hold on just b-before go
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empathy
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and I think
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you but I like think of that differently.
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People call soft skills.
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So Oh Yeah way I about they're
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you skills
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think about that like that because organic means
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of word
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skills are doing over time.
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And you're gonna have
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the
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about they're organic
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probably same
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like organic that it's
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when you're five, when
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and those
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doing over
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you're have a
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and changes time, and that not supposed
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you probably have
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once I've learned to ride a that's a skill that know.
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But, when you're knowing when right time to ride a bike is
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over
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skill that changes and develops
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learned
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Simon: bike, that's a
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like what, they change, what, you know what I
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time to when I
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skill that and
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Exactly very, very, different world.
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And think there's something
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and what
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like
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power of VR
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Like
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change
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really
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what, what thought was a
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is, students being able try out
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well,
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Judgmentfree
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that from
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to these soft
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would've benefited
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have
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Jethro D. Jones: all curated
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are you excited about?
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Jill: that would benefited from opportunity to
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I'm very excited about fact that we're previewing our STEM library
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been huge
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about Well um
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which ultimately was a move
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with Accelerate
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we had went into the of ISTE that allowed that level, new level Accelerate headset
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for us
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learning anything from, you know, welding in, in one class using
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interview techniques and where speaking and
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then taken it to another
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in practice interview and taken
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full package together
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kids the opportunity do all of those amazing experiments that
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to not get in classrooms today for lots of different
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budget, safety re- you safety the fact they can move from doing, you know, chemistry experiment, you know, when the magnesium lights
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today
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of budget
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ultimate dissection that we've all probably experienced- many years ago, but the smell- I think a real benefit.
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but yeah, that library is, like,
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really something exciting that I that the,
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years
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are crying out for.
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and the
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is
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a benefit
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Yeah yeah, thrilled and excited about
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Jethro D. Jones: yeah, really good, that's, crying for will just
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and
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learn just about any skill
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really better in
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environment, and that's
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is that, that I find really promising about the technology.
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And, you know, I think there's still a ways go figure out how to make it
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do it well and, effectively
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I really so what are some of your thoughts about how
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there's to, figure out how make so
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in doing VR what, would be
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cost
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how you started"?
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Do need to learn
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And so of your you need to buy a bunch sets?
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Like,
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Simon: I mean, so for, for specifically, 'cause we're an like
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how you
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it yourself
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so you get all of
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of
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sets what's
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So we're a bit a
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it
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VR
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pros and cons to them.
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company, a full
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solution if anything, our advice
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of
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a onestop shop you
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which
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The understanding
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drive in terms of learning, understanding what that headset
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Understanding how you
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ClassVR stuff
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how you've lit it's essentially a very
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for the
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off it
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completely immersive and I think,
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questioning, how you've
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the opportunity
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you
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have any
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essentially
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15 minutes focus, very difficult to think about anything else when you're doing VR.
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so you've
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I think you know
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if you
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How are you
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where do you place
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do
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minutes focus
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think the technology itself is
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We-- I was speaking teachers yesterday
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do
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VR…
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use in school, they were pains tell me again and again how simple they found
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the room.
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I was speaking to
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me, it is then all who now you've got it and got it going
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to found
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because
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for is
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time poor, have- haven't got the time think and sit, like I now luckily get do, about how to
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sometimes
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haven't
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Jethro D. Jones: Anything you'd add,
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Jill: to
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that… yeah, what Simon is saying is ultimately what we do is we come with a full solution, you know, so we ultimately
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Joanne
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tech and walk away.
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You know, that is… We're, we're kind white gloving have full training and onboarding, and then we're there at
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journey encouraging them to, to use it and
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know
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the more they
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more they realize how they can bring it their full training
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onboarding and there at every step creating more and more content, there's always something new
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Simon: it, it's
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well explorable scenes and then interactive
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like relatively know, much broader wider
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it's
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wherever you are
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visual
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medium
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the way through to full models as well as then interactive the, Six 度
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I
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in
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talking about here that
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I think there's something we
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complete sort of VR
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say,
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But I get, would get equal joy
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listen the, apps
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learning in the right way
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So wherever you're sitting
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you c
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get from
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think
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there's something
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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One things I appreciate you saying is that the content is really tight.
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learning is probably about
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as
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long there
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something have of I
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extent of can do.
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And
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the To me, the good thing is that if you're doing a simulation
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experimenting with something trying is probably fast
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the you you get it and
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the, good and you don't need
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or, experimenting 15
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is also cool.
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So, this has been awesome talking with you both.
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so much.
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Thanks so
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00012_JethrodeP: much
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Simon: for having
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah.
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How do people get, more information about ClassVR?
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Jill: q- Well, yeah.
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Well, obviously anyone that is at the show and they can
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this has awesome talking
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this time, we're on
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us
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miss us.
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very orange,
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obviously
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the website is got all our information.
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and, and make a, you know, an old-fashioned telephone call to the office to chat
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best thing
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but
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and talk about it.
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Jethro D. Jones: is information
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Jill: No, thank you so
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much.
