Rob McConnell Interviews - DONNA STELLHORN - Astrologer & Feng ShuiExpert

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XZBN dot net. First of all, x Oonation to all
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our Canadian listeners around the world and those who want
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American friends all around the world and those who want
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to be Americans, Happy fourth of July. My guest this
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hour is Donna Stellhorn. She is an astrologer and fung
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Shwei expert with more than twenty years experience.
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She wrote a.
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Monthly column on Fung Shwi for the newspaper The Light
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for eight years. And now, just to clarify a newspaper
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as a blog, they used to print on paper, remember
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those guys. Well, we still do that with the X
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Chronicles newspaper. But they used to do this all the
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time way back when. Donna's first book, Fung Shwi Book,
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was published in Europe in nineteen ninety six. Since then,
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she has written twelve books, including Fung Shwei Form and
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the best selling booklet Sage and Smudge Clearing Your Personal Space.
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Her annual Chinese astrology series, which includes Chinese Astrology twenty
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seventeen Year of the Rooster, is the third best selling
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Chinese astrology series in her in the world. Her upcoming book,
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Plate Sized Matters combines fun Shwei with weight loss, where
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she describes how she used fun shwei techniques to lose
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thirty five pounds and keep it off. This book will
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be available later on in twenty seventeen. Joining me now
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from California, where she resides with her poodle, Giles, is
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Donna Stellhorn and Donna, Welcome.
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To the excell Hi Rob, I'm so excited to be here.
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Thank you.
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Well, we are so happy to have you with us tonight, Donna.
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As I was telling you before we went to air,
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fun sshwei is one of my favorite subjects. And how
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did you get started with fung shwei?
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Oh? It was so many years ago. You know, I
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really kind of caught it at its infancy out here
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in California because I actually grew up in a really
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sort of chaotic household, and I was always curious whether
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some of that was because we did a lot of
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construction on the house. You know. We started with the
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house that was two bedroom, one bath, and my mother
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just kept adding on and when I left at twenty,
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it was five bedrooms, three baths, two bats. It was huge,
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basically ran out of land. So I was so interested
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in the idea that our environment could affect our mood
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and our energy and our decision making. And when I
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found fun shui, I was like, oh my gosh, here.
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It is now. There are several different types of funk shwe,
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one being black hat and which practice or which which
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part of fun shwe do you practice the most?
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Well, you're absolutely right. There's actually eight different schools of
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Fung Shue that are very distinctive ideas, and there was
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really only originally two different schools. One is Compass School
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and this was practicing flatlands of China, and this is
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where they use the device to determine the quality and
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the quantity of cheat energy that was coming in. But
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there's also Form School, and that's what I practice. And
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Form School took into account mountains and rivers, and so
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this was in a more mountainous region and here in
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California where things are hilly and mountain and we have
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the big Ocean Forum. School works really well.
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All right, Donna, you and I have to take our
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or teeven schedule and appointment, go to meet me dot
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so forward slash Donna Stellhorn. That's www dot meet me
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Explanation. Donna Stellhorne is our special guest and her website
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is fun shwiform dot com. That's fbnng fun shwe s
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h Ui Forum, f o r M dot com. And
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excuse me, what are the signs that a house needs
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a clearing?
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Well, you know, that's that's a really important question because oftentimes,
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you know, we feel like our home is our sanctuary.
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But when we come home after a long day, we
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are releasing not just you know, our things and you know,
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taking off scarves and putting down bags, but we are
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releasing emotions from the day. And those emotions can build up.
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And so what we see in houses that need to
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be cleared are excess of clutter. There can be things
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that break, more arguments happen in the home, that there
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is some deterioration in just normal things that you would
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think should last longer. We also see infiltrations of insects, bugs,
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lots of dust comes into the house. Those are all
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signs that a clearing is needed.
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So if somebody listening tonight is saying, jeez, no, that
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kind of sounds like my house or my aunt Bertha's house.
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How can they start to turn things around?
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Well, there's actually a lot of different ways to clear
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a house. And one of the ways that I talk
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about a lot is smudging, and that is a Native
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American inspired technique where you take sage, you know, like
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like what we would use on a Thanksgiving turkey. They
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herb sage and we light that and carry that around
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the house. And they've actually had studies that show that
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the smoke from burning sage acts like an antibiotic for
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your house. It actually removes germs and issues from the air.
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So where do you get sage? And how many different
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types of sage are there?
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And there are a.
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Couple of different types of stage. The best stage to
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use is a white sage. It grows here in California,
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but it is the one that you would use in
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your cooking. So you can get stage easily in health
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food stores, but also you can find it in the garden.
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You can find actually in health food stores they'll have
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a smudge stick and that is a bundle of stage
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that is tied together with string and this makes it
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very easy to light it and carry it around, and
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when you light it, it doesn't stay on fire, it smokes,
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and so it's actually quite safe. But there are other
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methods too to clear a house. If a person doesn't
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want to have some.
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Smoke in the house, what would they do then, if
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they didn't want to use sage.
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Well, one of the things they can do is just
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with some very simple ingredients, like taking some water about
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I'd say maybe a cup cup and a half of water,
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put in a little of just white vinegar, and mix
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in some sea salt about maybe half a tea spoon.
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Sprits that around the house and you can use that.
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You can even use that for just general cleaning. But
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as you sprints it through the house, just picture that
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negative energy is leaving the house. You can even ask
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for negative energy to leave the house.
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What is the significance of this of the sea salt?
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Sea salt's interesting because salt takes away all energy. It
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takes energy down to a neutral state, so it actually
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will remove both negative and positive energy. In foschwebe use
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salt a lot when we want to take something down
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to its base, so then we can then add in
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positive energy when we want.
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But isn't isn't there a danger in taking away the
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positive energy that's within a home if a person uses
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this technique.
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Well, this is why my first recommendation is always to smudge,
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because with smudging you're actually removing the negativity and adding
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the positive. But the salt I have used in situations
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where the negative energy is very very entrenched, this will
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allow it to bring back to a neutral state, and
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then we can add in the positive energy. And we
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can do this by ringing bells, saying prayers, giving a
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blessing to the house. You can also do things like
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anointing different objects in the house, you know, doorknobs and
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windowsills with holy water.
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Doorknobs with holy water?
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What would that do and how does it do it?
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Holy water is water that has been blessed by a
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pre stores shum and so anything that has a blessing
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like that can be used to bring in the positive energy.
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And by the way, if your listeners really like the
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idea of using a water versus a smoke, one thing
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that I've done that has very effective is to take
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the sage leaves that are used again in the smudgstick
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and make a tea out of those. So make a
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little tea bag of the sage leaves and brew that
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tea for about fifteen minutes, let it cool, and then
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put that in your spray bottle and sprints that around
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the house, and that will also clear the energy. It's
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so amazingly effective that if you spray yourself you will
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actually feel like you're tingling all over. It's wonderful.
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So where does this negative energy come from? And is
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there any way that we can stop it before it
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enters into the home?
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Yeah, great question. Now, negative energy can come from several sources.
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Negative energy could come from disturbances of the property itself.
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That is, in some areas, if there was, say in
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its history, war in that area or some sort of conflict,
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then when they built the house itself, it's still on
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that spot. Negative energy also could come from something that
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occurred in the past in the house. There could have
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been a grave illness or an accident, perhaps a divorce
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in the house, and then you bought the house and
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moved in unaware that that energy was there. You also
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could get negative energy because you have had some tragedy
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in your own life, and you know, you pick up
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the information there while you're in the house. It's very upsetting.
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There may have been tears or arguments about this, and
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so the struggles that you've gone through, that energy, residual
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energy can still be in the house. And then we
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just bring things home. You know, we're stuck in traffic,
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you know, we're not sure that we're happy with our job,
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and so we come home and we try to release
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the energy so we can feel better. And what we're
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doing is we release it into the house and it
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can get stuck.
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But what about people who go garage shopping on Saturday mornings,
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so they go to the antique market, they go to auctions.
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How can they prevent or how can they stop the
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possibility of whatever they're buying bringing it into their house
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with negative energy? Can they smudge it, can they spurt it?
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Can they keep it outside? And should they do it
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before they bring the article in the house.
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Yeah, it's absolutely correct. And this is something that we
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in FUNCTIONUI. We know very much that people who collect
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a lot of antique don't recognize that they are bringing
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in not just that piece of furniture or not just
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that antique bring but they're bringing in the history that
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that object has. And I hear sometimes people say, well,
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I'm not sensitive to that, and yet our sensitivity to
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those objects. We see it all the time when you
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walk into a place, when you decide to sit in
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a certain chair versus another chair, you are feeling the
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different energies that these objects have. So when it comes
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to bringing in a piece of furniture, it's usually impractical
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to try to clear it before it enters the house,
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but that's okay once it's in the house. As soon
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as it's really possible, do the clearing. And that is
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if you're going to smudge the piece, and you can
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smudge any piece that's made of wood or stone very easily.
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You take your smudge stick, you light it, and you're
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going to let the smoke touch the object, and so
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of course smoke rises up, and so you can fan
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smoke towards an object, and that once the smoke is
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touching the object, it is clearing it. For things that
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have perhaps that are more delicate, such as fabrics, smoke's
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not as practical. And then I do like to use salt,
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and we're not going to actually have the fabric touch
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the salt. But what we're going to do is you
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would place maybe you found a scarf in an antique store.
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And so you take the scarf and you place it
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on a table, and then you're going to make a
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large circle around the scarf of salts. And this would
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take oh, you know, probably a quarter cup of salt.
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You're just going to sprinkle a circle around it, and
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you're going to let it sit there for about a day.
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The salt's going to absorb any negat of energy that
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the scarf has, and yes, it will absorb the positive
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energy that it had to. Now the scarf is neutral,
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and then you can add the positive energy by just
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wearing the scarf and loving the scarf. Also another point
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that's quite important when you are using salt for this purpose.
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Gather the salt together into the trash can, but take
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the trash out of your house. Place it in a
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trash can off your property. You can do that at
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a park. Fast food restaurants often have trash cans outside.
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Grocery stores have trash cans outside. Just take it with
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you on your way to work and drop it somewhere else.
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Don't just dump it into your kitchen trash, because at
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that point you could release the negative energy back into
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the baps.
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Now functuai is a very ancient Eastern methodology. How did
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the smudging from the North America natives get incorporated into
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a Chinese or Asian.
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Ritual, Well, it really didn't. It's that when fung shwe
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came to America, we Americans tend to like to combine
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things and put our new spin on it. And that's
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why we also have, you know, pizza and all these
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other things. So what we were looking for in fung
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shue was an easy way to clear an object. Because
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in Asia, what they do is they just don't bring
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antiques into the house unless they absolutely know that there
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was a positive history attached to the object. And that's
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not what we Americans wanted to do. And I think
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it's really great that we have taken something that is
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wonderful and powerful as punishue, but found ways that we
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can use it with our American lifestyle.
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How do we know if the function is really working
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and it's just not a placebo effect.
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We know this because marketing people are using fung shwe
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on us all the time. We know that we are
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affected by our environments so much that this is why
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they put the chewing gum next to the register they
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have done studies to say you know that if they
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can keep you in a store for a long time,
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you are more likely to buy something. If your shopping
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cart is large, you're more likely to buy something. If
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the breakfast cereal that they want you to buy is
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an eye level or better still, at your child's eye level,
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you're more likely to buy. So you're that affected that
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it's it's taking your decisions and causing them to change,
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and that is basic func shuey. Well what I call
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kind of a reverse pun sshwey. And this goes for
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you know, how you order in a restaurant. They will
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place the thing they want you to order in a box,
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and that in your mind you well, if it's in
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a box, it's important. It's going to frame around it,
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and you're more likely to order that. Well, that's the
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item where they make the most profit. That's why it's
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in the box.
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But still you haven't answered my question, how do we
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know if functually works and it's not a placeable effect?
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You you made a reference to the to the marketing
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Her website is funshwaforum dot com. And Donna, what I
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was saying is that how do we know fun sshwei
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really works? And it's just not a case of mind
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over matter or the placebo effect? And then you referenced
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the marketing of cereal, the marketing of products in a restaurant,
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the size of a shopping cart. But how does that
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relate to the validity that func sshwe really works.
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Well, the essence of funcshue is that we're placing things
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in our home to shift our decision making. It's not
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that the lucky money cat is magical. It is when
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we see the lucky money cat and we recognize that
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is there in our home, we're making different decisions and
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that is something that people don't necessarily think about functionWe.
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But what we're actually doing is we're affecting the reticular
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activating system in our brain, which says that, oh, now
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I am focused on getting more money into my life.
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That's why this cat is here, and that's why it works.
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So basically, what you're saying it is mind over a
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matter of a placebo effect.
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Well, I don't know, all right, let me.
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Ask let me ask, Let me ask you this question.
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Are there any scientific studies that that would tend to
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show the fact. And I'm not talking about marketing here,
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I'm talking about sheer scientific uh huh surveys or studies
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that have been done that say beyond the shadow of
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it out that func shwe really does work.
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No, no one is studying fung shwe. They're only studying
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things that related to marketing because marketing makes money and
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so that's what they're interested in. But these are directly
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applicable to func shue because we're talking about how your
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environment shapes your decision making.
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Okay, so all right, I get that. I get that.
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So somebody comes to you and they want to have
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their home functuaed uh huh. Basically, do you tell them
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that what we're going to be doing is we're not
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going to be doing anything that can be proven. It's
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going to be a mind over matter that you are
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going to see things and thereby putting it into your
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direct perspective and then your subconscious will look at it
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and you believe that you're making these changes.
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Well, I guess I'm not asked that directly, but what
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I will say is that I see more scientific evidence
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that directly relates to punshue that in the last few
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years than I have seen in all my time of
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doing fun schwe. And so, for example, you know, a
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client says to me, you know, my relationship feels like
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it's dead. It feels like it's going nowhere. And I
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go into her bedroom and she has that new Mexico
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giant coucull over her bed, and so every time she
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walks into her bedroom she thinks, dead cow over my bed.
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This has an effect on how she sees everything related
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to what's going on in the bedroom, and that is
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affecting her.
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But what happens if she likes this skull?
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So she's liking the skull because she does want something
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to change, something to pass away from the relationship from
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So we are attracted to externally to what's going on
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with us internally. Everything that we're attracted to has something
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to do with what's going on inside of us. Otherwise
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we're not interested.
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Cause and effect. Yes, okay, but let's take the example
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of the poor lady who's got the cattle skull over
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her bed and the motif in her bedroom is Mexican.
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How does that relate to the fact, I mean, besides
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that she's got very bad taste as an interior designer,
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how does that relate to the fact that we know,
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based on func Shue that this is the cause of
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her poor relationship status, and it's not the fact that
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her designs just suck or she or she may be
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a lowsy person.
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Are you asking me if we know it's causation versus correlation?
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Right, we don't know that.
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But if it's just correlation, it's still valid. It's still
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something that then we can change and make her life better,
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and this gives her a chance to improve this relationship.
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Or when I say, you know, keeping this caucull here
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is negatively affecting a relationship and she says, Okay, I'm
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going to still keep it because I really love it. Well,
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then perhaps it has time for that relationship to be over.
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But where does the where does the the aspect of
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the fun shwe consultant change from fun Shuei design to psychologist.
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I guess that we find that these two things are
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more linked than we expected. Yes, there are many functionuez
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practitioners who just look at it from an intier design
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place where they go in and they just make a
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space very beautiful. In my world, I see it as
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one of the most useful methods first of seeing what's
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going on inside the person because their environment will tell
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me a story about them, and second to help them
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achieve the goals they're looking for by creating an environment
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that supports those goals. And we see this now from
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a lot of mainstream authors, you know, Tim Ferriss for
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Our work Week, Gary Keller, millionaire real estate investor. They
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both said in their books, your environment has a huge
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impact on what you do in your daydaily life, what
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your habits are. And that is basic.
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Functional, but that is no secret. People in office design
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and people who who run very successful offices, they know
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that the workplace and how the effectiveness of the workplace
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as well.
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As the.
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Positive attitude that the workplace six pounds will be a
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direct you know, will be a direct factor in their
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bottom line because a happy member of a purse of
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a staff is a more productive member of staff.
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You're absolutely right. Environmental psychology does work. And what we
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find is the principles of environmental psychology near that of functue.
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And that was the basically the big bonus that this
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practice that is thousands of years old actually has the
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building blocks of things that we are scientifically studying today.
555
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.039
Okay, let me ask you this. A fung shui, which
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was I believe developed by the Chinese going back several
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thousand years ago, is so successful. How come China is
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such a backward country.
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Because actually, during the Cultural Revolution around the nineteen sixties,
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all fung Shui information was driven underground. Funkhue practitioners were killed,
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it was outlawed, and only much much later in the
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00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.599
late eighties did we start to see any information come
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00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.679
out about fung shui and fun shui started to rise
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up again. And then we've seen from the late eighties
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the rise of China itself to become a major world player.
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So we went from a civilization that's been around for
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a very very long time. It did get off the
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rails there for a while. And interesting that correlated with
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the same time where fun shwe was against the law.
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00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:19.119
All right, so what would stop a country that is poor,
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that it has no economic future, that has you know,
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nothing to look forward to. Un let's use Bangladesh as
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an example. What what would happened to Bangladesh if Bangladesh
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was to impose the use of funk shwei.
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I have no idea, but I think it's worth trying out.
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Somebody has a problem, they go to a professional Funkshue
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consultants are known for their knack of organizing and displays.
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But I'm still having a hard time, you know, putting
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my mind around the fact that fun Shwei consultants the
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use the title of functue to be psychologists. You know,
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psychologist goes to school, it gets licensed, is responsible, it's.
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Not really doing that. I'm not sure maybe your question,
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but all.
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Right, I'll play it very simple. You were saying that,
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let's use let's go back to the lady who has
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the skull over the bed and has her Mexican motif
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in her bedroom. She's having problems with affairs with her relationships. You,
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as a functional consultant, we're saying, well, it could be
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the motif. It could be the skull of the skull
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is a symbol of your inability to have relationships. Doesn't
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that go outside the realm of function way and into
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the realm of psychology.
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I don't know.
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I don't know. I think that what I said to
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her was a skull is a sign of death. And
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she's the one who had said, my relationship feels dead.
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So that's where the connection's made. But you know, if
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if a person says, you know, I need psychiatric help,
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I'm going to take him and say, here, go see
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a psychologist or a psychiatrist.
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But the fact that you brought up the point where
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the skull was a representation of death. Could that have
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not been the reason why she said, well, my relationship
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is dead.
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00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:49.159
Well, she didn't know that herba core was representing death.
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So I came in and pointed it out to her
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that she had a symbol of death in her bedroom.
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00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:01.480
If she had had a crucifix in her bedroom, what
609
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would that be? A symbol of.
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00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:08.800
The crucifix in some reli in some people's mind is
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a religious symbol, and in other people's minds it's not.
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So it depends on what religion you are.
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Well, why would a person who is not a Christian
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have a crucifix in their bedroom?
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00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.079
I don't know, but I have seen it.
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00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:34.119
Okay, So how about mirrors, the color red, the placement
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of coins in different places in the house. How does
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this work?
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00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:47.320
Well, that's a great question. So, for example, coins is
620
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:52.639
a universal symbol of prosperity. Nearly all cultures have coins
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as money, with the exception of a few places that
622
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:00.440
use shells and maybe still do. So when we see
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00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:05.840
coins of any country, we think of prosperity, and this
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00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.760
reminds us that we are looking for money in our
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own life. It reminds us that maybe it's time to
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turn off the television and get back to work, or
627
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.400
to at least do a meditation to say, oh, yes,
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00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.320
I'm looking for money opportunities. That's why we use coins.
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What about the color red?
630
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:31.760
And red is traditionally a very happy color in China itself,
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they use it for a lot of positive celebrations, weddings,
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00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.800
all of these things. But we also know from studies
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that color does affect people. Now, their scientists are still
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00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.679
not sure whether color itself is a wave or a particle,
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but that they do know that seeing certain colors does
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affect a person's physiology as well as their emotions and
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again their decision making.
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We're talking about pun Shwi and Donna, can you refresh
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my refresh my memory. What the color red signifies, Well,
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the color.
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Red is a very lucky and fortunate color in fung shwei.
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But in just in a universal sense, red causes us
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to take action, which does, by the way, bring up
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a funny note. Back in the early turn of the
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last century, so the early nineteen hundreds, they were trying
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to decide what color to make a stop sign, and
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they were going to choose green for a stop sign,
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which actually could have been more appropriate because the color
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green does cause us to pause and enjoy. But they
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chose the color red, which is exactly the opposite color
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they should have chose. And this was based on some
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argument that two men had in a room. And it's so,
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but red causes us to take action. It causes us
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to take notice, and when we take action, then we
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receive benefit. In addition, they have found that there's actually
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a physiological change. If you sit in a room that's
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painted blue, you can lower your blood pressure up to
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twenty percent. They have found that when they add orange
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to classrooms that children become more creative and do better
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on standardized tests. They have done studies that show that
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when weightlifters lift weights looking at the color of pink,
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they cannot lift as much when looking at other colors.
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So this is an actual fact that adding different colors
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actually changes how we are in the room.
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Then why is it when anyone talks about red with
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anger that in Western society the color red is you know,
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is associated with anger, with a negative emotion.
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Too much of any color will produce a negative emotion,
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which is red would be anger. Too much blue becomes sadness.
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Too much yellow becomes fear. Too much orange becomes overcautiousness.
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And so we always want to find the balance. A
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little bit of one color, but an entire room painted red, Yes,
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we're not going to just take action, We're going to
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take angry action.
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Sure, is it possible that the different psychological effect of
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colors is different from those people living in the East
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and those people living in the West.
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We do associate different things with different colors. For example,
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here in the United States we dress our brides in white,
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but in Asia, white is a reserve for funerals. But
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there's still the energy of white being pure, being very
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clear if that is a universal idea, But we have
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gone from different cultures and associated with different perhaps ceremonies
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or different times of year.
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Is punctui just a passing phase or is it here
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to stay?
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Well, I think because it's been around for so long,
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it's definitely here to stay. But what I am excited about,
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as I said before, is that I'm seeing many studies
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that are not naming functue, but are using principles of
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how your environment, your personal environment is set up, and
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showing that those really do affect you. And while I
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am a big fan of the placebo effect, I think
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that the fact that our brain is powerful enough to
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pretend to take a medication and actually become healed, I
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think that that's amazing. I think that these studies do
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help us understand how we can center ourselves on a
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trajectory to help ourselves by just shifting some things in
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our environment. For example, if you want to eat more
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fruits and vegetables, take the fruits and vegetables out of
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those crispers, out of those things in your refrigerator, and
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put those in a bowl and their top shelf of
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your refrigerator, and you will find that you and your
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family reach for those much more often than you did before.
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Well, isn't that a matter of choice, whether it's going
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to be on the top or whether it's going to
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be on the bottom. If you know something's good to you,
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wherever it is in the fridge, well that's been my experience,
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that's where you'll go.
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Actually, what studies show is that that's not true that
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we tend to do most decisions on automatic pilot, that
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just food decisions alone. Studies show that we make over
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two hundred decisions every day just related in food. So
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we hit decision fatigued pretty early on. And so when
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a person is in that fatigue mode or tired for
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any reason, they're going to reach for what they can
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see what's the easiest to get.
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I would imagine this is for a person who has
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very little self control, But people who have self control,
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I don't think fall into the same category and follow
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the same study guidelines and findings.
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There is some truth that when it's a priority in
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a person's life, that they will exhibit more self control
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in an area. But some people have lots of different priorities.
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They have jobs and children, and maybe they're taking care
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of a loved one, and so what happens is that
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they can't have the priority of maybe eating healthy or
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maybe getting right to work and not putting on the TV,
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or maybe getting to sleep on time. Maybe that doesn't
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hit the priority level. So what you're suggesting, that consciousness
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and that mindfulness I think is our goal. But if
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we can't hit it, what isn't it great that we
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can shift our environment to make it easier for us
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to do hit the goal.
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Sounds like just another example of how a lazy society is.
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I don't know that I would call it lazy.
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I think that.
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There is a point where we get decision fatigue willpower,
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and they have showed is something that not that just
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people have. But it's like a muscle. It can become tired. Now,
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being like a muscle, it also means that yes we.
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Hello, are you still there? Hello? Donna? Well, let's try
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and get Donna back. I don't know what happened, Craig.
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According to our system here she is still online. Maybe
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she just moved in a funny way and she disconnected herself.
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But over here at Master Control, Craig, you're saying that
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she's still showing that she's online. All right, let's go
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and do a little bit of reading about Donna again.
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Donna Shellhorn, who is our guest who we for some
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reason can't contact any longer, is an astrologer and funk
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Sshwei expert with more than twenty years experience. She wrote
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a monthly column on fun Shwei for the newspaper The
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Light for eight years. Donna's first fun Shwei book was
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published in Europe in nineteen ninety six. She then began
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She has then since written twelve books, including fun Sshwei
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Form and the best selling booklet Stage and Smudge Clearing
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Your Personal Space. Her annual Chinese astrology series, which includes
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Chinese Astrology twenty seventeen Year of the Rooster, is the
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third best selling Chinese astrology series in the world. Her
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upcoming book, Plate Size Matters, combines fun Shwi with weight loss,
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where she describes how she used fung shwe techniques to
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lose thirty five pounds and.
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Keep it off. The book will be available later.
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On this year. Little known fact about Donna she has
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done a stand up comedy on stage in California and
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Arizona and actually got a few laughs. Donna currently lives
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in Orange County, California, with her standard poodle Giles. Now,
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if you'd like to contact Donna, visit her website at
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www dot fung shwiform dot com. Here's a little bit
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of a concern I have ex oonation. Jan Harzan, the
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executive director of Mufon that's the mutual UFO Network, supports
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racism and racist remarks in Moufon. In May twenty seventeen,
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the Moufon state director for both Pennsylvania and Delaware and
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Inner Circle member John Ventry posted what can only be
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called a resist strant to opinions racistrants to his private
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Facebook page. Several people reacted to it, suggesting that such
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opinions were appalling. Muffon's executive director and Inner Circle member
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John Jen Harzen reacted with what was called a non apology,
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attacking those who had reacted negatively, calling them haters, and
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then suggested that these haters might be worse than John Ventry.
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The offensive posts, as well as the critical comments, were
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then removed from Ventry's Facebook page. Harzen eventually announced that
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Ventry had been fired as the state director for both states.
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The reaction came only after there had been more bad
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public relations for Moufon.
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Now.
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Not long after this, it was discovered that another of
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the Inner Circle members, Jay Z Knight, had in a
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drunken rent made other racially charged comments about the Jews, Mexicans, Gays, Catholics,
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and organic farmers. Har Zen, on learning this, ignored the
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severity of the comments, saying that if she had been
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a state director, he would have fired her. All three
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remain on the inner Circle. And while it has suggested
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that the Inner Circle has no real influence over the
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workings of Mufon, other documentation, including the Moufon website, suggests otherwise.
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By the way, to become a member of the Muffon
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Inner Circle, it takes a donation of five thousand dollars
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a year, according to our sources. Now, given the slow
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reaction to Ventry's racist rant and the lack of real
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concern about such attitudes at the highest level of the
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Moufon organization, as evidence by Harzen's public comments about both
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Ventry and Night, it's time to remove these high ranking
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Muffon officials from positions of power and oversight. The problem
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is systemic at the top, and such attitudes can filter
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down through the organization. Rather than standing by and watch
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what happens, it's time to make a change. If you
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agree with this, visit www dot XBN Radio TV, dot
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com and sign our online petition. If you're not part
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of the solution, you're part of the problem. And we'll
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be back on the other side of this break with
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the news at six and a half minutes past the
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top of the hour. As we continue here in the
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xzon from our broadcast center in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, this
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has any
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