The Show with Tony G & Leo - 9/25/26

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From the Fast Sign Studios.
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Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends.
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We're so glad you could attend. Come inside, come inside.
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It's the show with Tony G and Leo.
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You've been in the show, man?
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Yeah, I was in the show.
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I was in the show for 21 days once.
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21 greatest days of my life.
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Be on the show. So that's what got this party started, huh?
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Through the C's Electronics. Talk and text line 920-281-1570. You know, buddies.
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For life, I think.
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I'll drop by.
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You can drop by my.
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Place any time.
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Follow on X at Tony G Nation and at Leo
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Kuyper JR.
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He's a little bit long-winded. He doesn't translate very well
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into our generation, and his jokes are terrible.
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The show goes on!
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They go nowhere!
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Here's Tony G and Leo.
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Happy Friday, score squad. I say happy, but, I mean,
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is it really? After Thursday night football last night, man,
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we are going to dive into a lot of Packers talk.
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I expect a lot of your thoughts, score squad. That's
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coming up on today's show, as well as a lot
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more good banter. Thanks for tuning in to the show
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with Tony G and Leo. No Leo today. He's off.
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We'll check on him on the golf course a little
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bit later, see how his back is doing, that poor
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old man. But he'll be back on Monday, just Tony
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G flying solo with you. Who's going wire to wire
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with me on this– I wish I could call it
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Victory Friday, but it's not. It's the show with Tony
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there hasn't been a lot of breaking news based on
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what I've seen. But I.
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The breaking news that I do have comes from the
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NFL and Jaden Daniels. And it looks like reports are
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saying he's just week to week with the dislocated elbow.
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The top headline here says that the commander's GM says
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elbow surgery is not on the table right now for
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Jaden Daniels. So it looks like his elbow injury is
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not as bad as you thought it was initially. But
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either way, it's still bad. I wouldn't expect him to
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be back for a couple of weeks here. with that
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elbow injury. He's on my fantasy team, so I know
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that hurts me a bit, but not that anybody cares
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about my fantasy team. That's your breaking news, and breaking
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Value Hardware. Let's get into today's show menu.
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Flo liked the TV show.
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What is the soup du jour?
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It's the soup of the day. That sounds good. I'll
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have that. Let's see what's on today's sports menu.
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Standing by, Jack Stern for Talkin' Crew. Well, if the
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Packers don't want to win, the Brewers do. Win number 100.
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Say it again. 100 for the Milwaukee Brewers. Congratulations to them.
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We'll get to Jack in just a couple of minutes here.
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Also today, a lot of 1265 today banter. I'll give
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you my three postgame takeaways from last night's game. The
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score poll. Let's play the blame game. Who gets it? Everybody?
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We'll talk about that. A little bit of some Bucky
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banter tomorrow. Or ahead of tomorrow's game for the Badgers.
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We'll start in hour number two. Guess the spread. We
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didn't do it yesterday, so we will do it today.
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We'll have some special guests on the program from the
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Let's start the show with a winning team. What do
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on our Brewer analyst from Brewer Fanatic, Jack Stern. You
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can follow him on X at ByJackStern. That's B-Y Jack Stern.
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Catch his content at that X page or on BrewerFanatic.com. Hi, Jack.
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How are you on this Friday afternoon?
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Oh, I'm just swell, Tony. How are you?
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Oh, I like that. I like that. I am also
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just swell. I mean, I am, and I usually at
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this point, Jack, say I have no complaints, but I
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do have a lot of complaints. and I'll get to
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those later in the show about a certain team in
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Green Bay if you're catching my drift.
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I did not get a chance to watch the entirety
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of the game last night, and it sounds like that
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was okay that I did not see that.
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No, you are absolutely right. Right around the point when
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they started to struggle, they being the Green Bay Packers
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early in the game, I switched over to the Brewer
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game to watch them close out win number 100, Jack.
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So let's start there. Not just did they win number
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100 for the first time in franchise history, but they
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clinched the number one overall seed in baseball with the
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Dodgers losing last night as well. Two parts here to
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your first question, Jack. One, talk about just how special
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this season has been. 100 for the first time in
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franchise history. And then number two, what does this change
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for how the Brewers manage the Cardinals series this weekend
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that is quite literally meaningless?
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Yeah, so I think first and foremost to win 100
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games for the first time in franchise history. It's the
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culmination of a lot of work that the Brewers have
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been doing to try to just build a sustainable winning organization.
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And what stands out to me is comparing this season
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in particular, the last two seasons really where they've set
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new franchise records, comparing those to early in this run
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when they were making the playoffs, like 2018, 2019, those
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kind of teams. And the way that they're doing it
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in different ways now, I think back to like the
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2018 team, the 2019 team, they were doing a really
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good job of like buying low on some guys in trades,
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getting some guys off the waiver wire and kind of
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getting creative with how they were using those guys. You
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think back to like the 2018 team, the way that
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they would do, bullpen games and the way that they
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would kind of get a little gimmicky with like Ulysses
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Chassin and Wade Miley and Chase Anderson and the fact
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that they were playing for first baseman on the infield
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and they were using infield shifting and all this stuff
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to get creative and make it work and build a
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winner that way. And now you look at the way
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that they're doing it now, they're still getting creative. They're
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still making some buy low moves and doing those kinds
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of things. But they're also just a more well-rounded team now.
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It's not as gimmicky as much, I don't think. They
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hit well. They pitch well, they play defense, they base
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run well. You know, I definitely still have my concerns
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about the lack of home runs, although they've been a
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lot better in that regard. That's like the one thing
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with this team that you can kind of raise an
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eyebrow over. However, everything else, There's been all this conversation
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this year and the last two years about what's the
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Brewers' way of winning under Pat Murphy. Maybe they do
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do some things a little differently than other teams, but
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by and large, they're just better at other teams than
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almost every facet of baseball. That's not like a secret
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sauce or anything.
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That's just.
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building a really well-rounded roster. They bring in athleticism. They
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get guys who can do multiple things. They build a
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lot of depth so that if somebody gets hurt or
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if somebody is underperforming, there's always somebody else in that pipeline,
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whether it's someone they acquire, whether it's a prospect, whether
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it's somebody else, someone that they can plug in who
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gets the job done and just keeps this train rolling along.
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So the Brewers have built a really, really impressive self-sustaining
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organization here. They've got the regular season figured out in
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a way that nobody else does. And That's given them
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that luxury now of really having three games, like you
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said here, that are totally meaningless. They mean absolutely nothing
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in the box score. They've already locked up the top
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seed in Major League Baseball. They've got home field advantage
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to the playoffs. So really what this week becomes about
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now is lining things up as best you can for
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the NLDS. The Brewers really already started doing that. On
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the last road trip, you saw the way that they
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managed Jacob Mizorowski's start. You saw the way that they
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tried to give Dustin May multiple opportunities to get right.
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They used Kyle Harrison in a couple of big situations.
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out of the bullpen. That's really just going to be
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what continues into this week. Maybe we see some position
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players get some days off finally just to kind of
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get them a breather. at the end of the year here.
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But more than anything, I think the pitching plan is
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going to be 100% scripted. You're not going to see
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leverage guys necessarily appearing just because it's a close game.
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I think the Brewers are going to go into this weekend.
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Every pitcher on this roster, it is going to be
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mapped out when this guy is going to pitch, which game,
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roughly which situation, how many innings they want guys to
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get over the weekend here. Probably try to get just
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about every reliever one final inning here to see if
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see what they can do and get them into form
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and get them on a good schedule. And then pitch
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counts for starters, you're probably going to see that managed
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pretty closely. So they have the ability now to really
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line things up workload-wise and just days of rest-wise for
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just about every guy on this team.
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I like the way you put that with this not
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really being a gimmicky team. I mean, they get things
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done in a way that no other team does. Like
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you said, they have the regular season figured out in
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a way that no other major league team does. All
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the talk this year about the offense, the lack of
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home runs. The, you know, the lack of production for
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Christian Yelich and his struggles throughout the season. Still, this team,
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if you look at some other stats, like just for example,
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the best run differential in baseball, the only team with
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over plus 200. So you look at all the stats
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you want to, this is the best team in baseball.
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Now you mentioned, let's pick up right where you left
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off there with this being the meaningless series to end
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the season against the Cardinals. Jacob Mizorowski is scheduled to
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pitch on Sunday. Obviously, they're going to get the wild
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card round off and then pick up again on the NLDS.
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I think it's October 3rd is the first day there.
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But in terms of managing these different pitchers, what do
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you expect in terms of, you know, I think Dustin
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Mays also scheduled to pitch. What do you expect? Like
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you said, dive in a little more deeper into the
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script that you think should play out or what you
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think should play out pitching wise. Let's start with Jacob
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Mizorowski and just take it where you want to.
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Yeah, so I think really for the starters, especially for Mizorowski,
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I think it's going to be a pretty normal length start.
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Maybe they're not going to push him over 100 pitches
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or anything, but the way that they tried to line
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this up is they gave him the shortened start In Baltimore,
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instead of the shortened start at the end of the year,
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in past seasons, we would see the Brewers kind of
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roll their guy out there for his final start, like
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Corbin Burns, Brandon Woodruff. They did this with a couple
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of those guys, Freddy Peralta. He'd only throw maybe one.
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Or two innings.
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Maybe he'd do a little bit of work on the side,
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but they really just wanted to make sure they weren't
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risking injury. They kind of played it a little differently
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with Miz. They just went with a three-inning outing in Baltimore,
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and now the plan, I think, is going to be
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give him more of a normal start in his final
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outing so that he can build back up. And then
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by the time he gets to the NLDS on Saturday
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for game one, there's going to be no restrictions. He
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can go. It's a fully normal outing. And I kind
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of like that they're doing it that way because I
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think that's a more natural progression into the playoffs. They
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did it a little bit with Dustin May where they
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kind of went two shortened outings right next to each other.
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So shortened start. And then on what would have been
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his side day, he just made another shortened start just
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to get him more opportunities on a game mound. I
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would guess they're going to try to stretch him out
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a little bit more. He's probably a guy who can
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do the buildup a little more quickly because he is
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a veteran guy and he knows a little bit more
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about his body and how to manage that stuff. So
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they probably don't need to quite handle it the same
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way that they do with Mizorowski. But I think that's
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really going to be the plan for those two guys.
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And then, There's going to have to be a way
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to fill innings for the rest of that series. So
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like I said, I think they're going to try to
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get most of these relievers an inning or two over
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the weekend. Then you do have some options with filling
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innings for the rest of the series. They could activate
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Bryce Wilson off.
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The injured list.
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He's ready to go. Maybe he gets a start. Maybe
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he just logs some innings and long relief just to
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get them to the finish line. You could do the
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same thing with Grant Anderson as well, who's working his
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way back. So yeah, I think it's going to be
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a pretty rigid way of operating. But like I said,
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it's going to be about getting those important starters back
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out to more of a normal length and then from
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there i think once those guys kind of hit that
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benchmark of innings that they're looking for then they're going
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to kind of have their options of okay these are
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maybe the three or four guys who are going to
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pitch one inning today here are the guys who are
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going to pitch the next day and then like i
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said maybe when you get to that finale they're depending
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on how you want to line up the innings maybe
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then you see a guy like brace wilson just eat
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some innings to kind of cover what's.
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Left yeah yeah like you said That or similar to
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Colton Gordon on, I believe it was Tuesday, that he
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went out and gave almost five innings. So you're going
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to see a lot of pitches. I think Lyon Richardson,
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I think you mentioned that, just got activated or somewhere
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around there. So you're going to see a lot of
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pitches you might not normally see in this last, again,
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completely meaningless series on paper. But, Jack, let's talk about
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one pitcher specifically here. How do you put into words...
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How good Logan Henderson has been, not just this season,
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but to start his career. I mean, they keep showing
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this stat every time he pitches the most starts to
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start a career with three or fewer earned runs given up,
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I think it is. I think he's tied Zach Gallin
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right now when he started his career for the Diamondbacks.
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How do you put into words just how special he
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has been to start his career in Milwaukee and what
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he's doing right now?
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I think record tying or record setting is probably a
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good way to put it. You brought up that gets
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mentioned a lot, how he's tied Zach Allen for 23
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straight starts to open a big league career, three runs
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or fewer allowed in all 23 of those starts. Yeah,
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it's been impressive. And what stands out to me is
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not just the consistency, but the consistency that includes some
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outings where he hasn't been at his best. And I
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think that's, a sign of maturity that not a lot
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of guys have coming out of the gates. It's a
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sign of just his competitiveness. He's got kind of that
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bulldog mentality where he just doesn't care. He's going to
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go out there with whatever he has that day. And
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he's going to give you his best. And, uh, that
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Philly start was kind of an example of it. It
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was not a great outing for him location-wise. He walked
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three guys, which is kind of uncharacteristic of him. His
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changeup was not super great location-wise. He was still getting
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a lot of chases with it and a lot of
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swing and miss, which I think speaks to just how
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deceptive that mix can be. But he's going to go
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out there with whatever he's got on any given day,
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and he's going to give you a chance to win
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the game. And I keep thinking back to the trade deadline.
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The Brewers would.
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Not include him in any offers for Tarek Skubal. And
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I think part of the thinking was, hey, in half
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a season, could Logan Henderson come very close to or
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even match what Tarek Skubal does? He very easily could.
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That doesn't mean he's a better pitcher than Tarek Skubo,
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but if you shrink the sample size and you bring
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it down to like 15 starts or so, yeah, there's
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a way that that could happen. And that's more or
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less how it's borne out here for the remainder of
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the regular season. So now we get into the playoffs
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and we're going to see what he's made of. But
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to me... he's shown the competitiveness and he's shown kind
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of that mental edge that I think you need to
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be successful in the post season. So, you know, it's
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unfortunate for the Brewers that Kyle Harrison pitched his way
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out of that number two spot, but there were far
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worse guys that you could have to turn to instead
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than Logan Henderson. I think he's very well positioned to
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get it done. And, It's kind of fun seeing the
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way he's doing it, too. It's just kind of that old-school,
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kind of like what your little league coach tells you,
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like just fastball change-up. If you can change speeds, fastball change-up.
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If you can sell them both, you're going to get
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some ugly swings, and that's really what Logan Henderson does.
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He's got the third and fourth pitch now, but he
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doesn't really need to throw the whole way yet. He's
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still getting guys out with that fastball change-up combo, so
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it's been really fun to watch.
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Jack, I want to float this past you. Earlier this week,
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we had a listener text in on the Cease Electronic
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Talk and Text line The possibility of D.L. Hall starting
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in the postseason, as Dustin May is struggling to figure
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it out, as maybe there's not enough confidence in Robert
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Gasser to be a number three starter. I like the
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idea of where this listener was at in their head.
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I don't think putting D.L. Hall into a new role
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in October, like the first time in the season in October,
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is a good idea. But how do the Brewers plan
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to use and incorporate D.L. into their postseason plan, seeing
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as how well he is pitching right now?
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Yeah. I think DL is going to be pretty important.
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I think you're going to see him get some high
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leverage opportunities in the playoffs, to be honest with you.
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And you look at what he's been able to do,
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not only this year, but last year, he's been one
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of the best pitchers in major league baseball, just missing
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the barrel. He's done a really good job of as
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a reliever, basically expanding out to like a seven pitch arsenal.
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There's not a lot of relievers who are throwing seven
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different pitches and mixing them in the way that he does.
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So He already had that going for him. Now you
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add in the fact that he's found the velocity again.
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He throws 97 miles an hour again with that sinker.
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It's really come together for him, especially here in the
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second half. So I would not use him to start games.
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And the biggest reason I say that is He does
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still have the control problems. He has issued a lot
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of walks this year and gotten a little bit better
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since the velocity came back because I think he's been
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able to just attack the zone a little more aggressively,
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throwing 97 instead of maybe pitching around some guys a
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little bit and trying to live on the corners all
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the time. But he has still had issues with the
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free bases. I think this is just the best role
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for him where he gives you maybe two, maybe three
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innings at a time, He can go out there. He
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can just throw the kitchen sink at guys for one
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turn through the order. If he issues a walk or two,
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it's not the end of the world because he knows
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how to pitch around that. I do think there's a
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possibility of the Brewers using openers ahead of some of
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their playoff starters, especially Dustin May. If Depending on who
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they're facing, if they want to throw a lefty out there,
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for the first inning or two.
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I think D.L.
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Hall is definitely a candidate for him. It's probably him
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or Aaron Ashby. The Brewers used Ashby in that role
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last year, but they have used Hall to do that
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in some regular season games before. So maybe he technically
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does start a game at some point. It wouldn't be
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as a traditional starter, but whatever role he pitches in,
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I do think he's going to get some pretty big
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outs for him, or at the very least be asked
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to get some very big outs.
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For the Brewers.
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We've had a very pitching staff-heavy rotation of questions for
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you to start here, Jax. Let's switch to the offense
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for your last question. We're seeing some important bats tick
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up at the right time here, like Bryce Terang, Cooper Pratt,
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even Gary Sanchez, Sal Freelick with big hits last night,
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big performances last night. Who is the postseason X Factor
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for the Brewers that their offensive livelihood may rely upon?
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What is one X Factor bat to watch out for
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in October?
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I think every year I say Jackson Churio, and I'm
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probably going to say it again just because out of
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all the guys in this lineup, just about every hitter
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in Major League Baseball is at least a little bit streaky.
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But Jackson Churio, when he's going well, just you can
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see the raw talent shine through. And I think he's
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capable of some things that not a lot of other
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guys in this lineup can't. are capable of. You could
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point to other names. You could look at Jake Bowers.
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You could look at Garrett Mitchell, who has one of
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the highest bat speeds in all of Major League Baseball.
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He has one of the highest hard hit rates in
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all of Major League Baseball. But I still come back
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to Churrio just because I think that sometimes the way
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that he plays the game, I think it can be
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more of an asset for him in October than it
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is in the regular season. Because I think when Churio
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is at his best, he just doesn't really think about
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the game that much. And he just lets the talent
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do the work. He sees a pitch that he thinks
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he can hit and he can hit it. He takes
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a big swing and he drives it. And I think
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that just, that plays well in the playoffs because it
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means the bright lights don't affect him. He's not really
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thinking about too much. And we've kind of seen that
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in the past couple of postseasons. He's been one of
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the Brewers' best postseason hitters. in a couple of seasons
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where the offense hasn't done a whole lot in the playoffs.
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So I think if you get that version of him
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again in October, that could do a lot for your lineup,
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especially in those top three spots. So just gives them
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a spark at the top of the order, gives them
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that guy who is capable of that big swing that
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can turn a game.
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Jack, I am, I'm looking ahead here and I'm literally
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getting goosebumps as I'm about to say this to you.
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Next time we talk with you next Friday, we will
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be previewing NLDS game one on Saturday, October 3rd. The
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time of that game is still yet to be determined,
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but how about that? Next time we speak, we'll be
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previewing playoff baseball in Milwaukee. Jack, thanks for taking the
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time to join us on this Friday afternoon and look
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forward to next week's conversation.
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Me too, Tony.
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Take care.
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All right, that is much appreciated from Jack Stern, his
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time each and every Friday throughout the Brewers' season. You
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can follow him on X at ByJackStern, BYJackStern, at Brewer
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by 403 West College Avenue in downtown Appleton, directly across
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the street from the Performing Arts Center. We have a
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lot of texts on the Cease Electronic Talk and Text
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line looking to dive into this Packers conversation. We'll do
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so on the other side. 1265 today when we come back.
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Also a check-in from our friend Leo Kuyper Jr. We'll
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see how his back is doing on the golf course.
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It's the show with Tony G and Leo. Off to
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West Wisconsin Avenue in Appleton. Oh, my goodness. I don't
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even know where to start, score squad. Well, I suppose
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I'll start here with all the texts that I have
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received so far. There is a lot of texts. And
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thank you for being patient with us as we get
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to your texts here for the first time at 1236
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in the Fast Sign Studio. Let's just start from the bottom,
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the first one that came in. DK Knott from Chaska.
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Tony G., your seat on the fire. Matt LaFleur train
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is officially open. Come sit next to me. I like that, DK.
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I like that a lot. I'm not yet.
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Listen.
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Listen. I'm not yet on the fire Matt LaFleur train.
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I'll tell you why in a moment. Let me get
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to some more of these texts. David Springadey in Appleton.
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Did he send more than one here?
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No.
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He said, are the wheels coming off?
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Yes.
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Although I'm not on the fire Matt LaFleur train just yet,
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I think it is panic button time in Green Bay.
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I'll tell you more in a moment. Harris from Harrisburg
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checking in. What organizations... Will Ed Policy look for the
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Packers' next general manager and head coach? I'm thinking of
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a good job the Seahawks did hiring John Schneider. I
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wonder what Paulie from St. Paul and his thoughts are
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on this. That's a great point. I wonder if the
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Paulies are going to check in today. I know they
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said something about checking in on Monday when Leo is
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back as well. They're welcome today if they're listening. But
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Harris from Harrisburg, what organizations... Will Ed Policy look forward
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to replace Matt LaFleur and Brian Gutekunst is what he
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is asking. Great question. We'll have to see. Thanks for
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checking in today. Jerry Brownray says, me twin. I don't
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know exactly what that means. Something I said at the open?
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I'm not sure. Dice Shaking Lamar says, Leo won't be
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back Monday. He's going to take some Packer aggression out
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on a golf ball and wreck his back even more. Yeah,
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don't worry. We're going to check in with him in
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a moment as well. Fact checker. Getting in this morning,
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or this afternoon, I guess. 12 o'clock. So that does
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mean afternoon, because it's after noon. I'm with you, Tony.
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This will be a painful two hours to talk about
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the game last night, but I'll hang on with you.
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And why in the world is Leo out playing golf
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when he's got that terrible back pain? He should stay
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on the 19th hole and liquidate his painful problems. That's
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a good question. That is a great question, Fact Checker.
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We're going to check in with him in a moment,
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see how his back is holding up. Chris in Appleton. Says,
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obviously the pack looks absolutely terrible and they have no
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idea how to turn it around. LaFayle has lost the team.
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I'm good with a lost season to get rid of him.
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Ain't going to ruin my fall, Matt LaFayle. Like his autumn,
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his fall, ain't going to ruin my fall, Matt LaFayle.
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I'll have a Brewers World Series win and Grand Theft
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Auto 6 to enjoy. Go crew, Chris and Appleton. Hey,
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that's a great text, Chris and Appleton. I don't usually
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talk about video games here on the show, but I
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am also awaiting Grand Theft Auto 6. I am also
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awaiting Grand Theft Auto 6. Great point. Jerry Brondre clarifies, says,
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wire to wire, you asked. Okay, so I said, who's
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going wire to wire? He said, me, twin. Thanks, Jerry Brondre.
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Much appreciated. Today's a good day to do that. Terrible
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Tim and Appleton. Hey, Tony, my biggest takeaway from this debacle...
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is that useless the Packers go 11-3 down the stretch.
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Oh, okay. Useless?
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No.
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Let me reread. My biggest takeaway from the debacle is
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that unless the Packers go 11-3 down the stretch, I
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will be enjoying tasting wings on you. Also, a reminder
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that I predicted 8-9, 9-8 at best. Yeah, terrible, Tim.
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My prediction for double-digit wins... is not looking great, Bob.
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All right. So before I dive into all the commotion,
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let me do this. Let's see how Leo's doing out
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on the golf course. Let's see. All right, Leo, how
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are you? I grabbed a sandwich. Okay. Yeah, don't care
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about that. Don't care what you ate. How's the golf game?
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Oh, my back.
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I threw out my back.
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Just take one dip and end it.
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Okay, all right. That's your chicken on Leo Carper Jr.
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Here he is, teeing off on hole six.
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Oh, my back.
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I threw out my back. I love that drop. I
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just love that drop. I just love that drop. Well,
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let's dive into some Packers discussion, shall we, score squad?
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Listen, 35-14.
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The Falcons' victory in Thursday night football last night. Again,
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where do you start? Do you start with the defense
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allowing 500 yards of offense from the Falcons? Let me
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say that again. Do we start with the defense allowing 500,
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500 total yards of offense from an 0-2 Atlanta Falcons team?
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Could certainly start there. Do you want to start with
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the Packers running the football just nine times?
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Ha!
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I mean, that's laughable. That is comical. And I get why, right?
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I understand why the offensive line is in shambles. But
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you run the ball nine times in the game. Your
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longest carry was six yards. You had one five-yard carry
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from Caleb Johnson. You had one six-yard carry. from Marshawn Lloyd.
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Jordan Love threw the football 53 times. You could start there.
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You could start with another special team's woe and a
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blocked field goal by Trey Smack that seems to somehow
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get lost in this mix. I don't know where you start.
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I don't know where you start. Rick K. says, this
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is not too bad yet. Ask Leo about the 80s Packers,
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Randy Wright and company. I get it, you know, and
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I understand people who have been Packer fans for decades
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and since that 70s and 80s era who have seen
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that football look at this and go, yeah, this is
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nothing compared to that. I understand it, but I'm not
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a big Kyle Brandt fan. He made a great point on,
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I think it was Good Morning Football, I think he
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was on this morning. Again, not a big Kyle Brandt guy,
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but he hit the nail on the head by saying,
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Packers fans don't know what to do with themselves.
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Right?
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Like, for the last two, three decades, you've had Hall
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of Fame quarterback play. You've had, you know, good competitive football. Like,
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I don't know where to start. I don't know where
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to start to break down. I think what I'm going
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to do here, score squad, and I'll respond to DK
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Knott from Chaska's text. He said, there's a spot on
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the fire mat in the floor train if you want
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to hop on. I'm not ready to hop on because
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I don't think... I don't think this might be a
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hot take. You might disagree with me, and that's fine.
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I don't think this is all Matt LaFleur's fault. Listen,
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at some point, the head coach does need to be
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held accountable. And again, I've been critical of his play calling.
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I've been critical of his aggressiveness. Again, last night, you
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get the interception. You get a free possession to start
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the game. You're at midfield, and you don't go for
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it on fourth and one.
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Why not?
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If you don't get it, you hand the ball over
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on downs, and it's like he didn't get the interception
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at all. Just go for it. What are you doing punting?
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Why?
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So the play calling, the aggressiveness, all of it. I'm
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not liking what I'm seeing from Matt LaFleur right now.
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I don't think this is all his fault, though. This
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is not a Matt LaFleur problem. Okay, wrong way to
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say it. Hold on. Hit the pause button. Let me
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restart again. This is a Matt LaFleur problem. This is
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not Matt LaFleur's fault that the offensive line he was
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tasked with protecting Jordan Love is a wreck. It is
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a train wreck of an offensive line.
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I'm sorry.
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What else am I supposed to say? It is a
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train wreck of an offensive line. You know who that
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falls on? You know who put this roster together? It
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was Brian Gutekunst. At what point does he get held
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accountable for putting this together?
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I mean.
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I don't understand why you had all offseason to fix
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an offensive line. You didn't even need to really fix it,
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but you could tell last year it was a problem.
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They were shifting guys around. A lot of guys couldn't
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keep themselves healthy. So, okay, you need to add some
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offensive linemen. You go and draft one in Jager Burton.
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And that's your solution. You had all offseason... to protect
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your multi-million dollar quarterback, your franchise, face of the franchise quarterback.
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And you don't. Kyle Brandt made this great point again
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this morning, and I'm going to use it here. It's
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not Matt LaFleur's fault that your best player, Josh Jacobs,
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is not available. That's Josh Jacobs' fault. It's not Matt
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LaFleur's fault that Micah Parsons blew out his ACL, blew
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out his knee. Nobody's fault, really. It just happens, unfortunately.
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This isn't all Matt, like, Matt LaFleur is a good coach.
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Matt LaFleur helped make Jordan Love who Jordan Love is.
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I don't think this is all on Matt LaFleur. This
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is a Brian Goodikens thing. This offensive line is a wreck.
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That is the only way I know how to put
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it right now. I don't want to put it this way.
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I want them to be better, but it's the only
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thing I know how to do. Couple more texts in
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on the Cease Electronic Talking text line. DK now from
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Chaska about the blocked field goal. Falcons only had 10
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people on the field as well. Not great, Bob. Yeah, exactly.
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I didn't know that, but you can't block 10 people
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with nine guys protecting the holder and kicker. What are
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we doing here? Brian in Greenville says one that, part
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of it I won't say on air here, but, uh, um, Yeah,
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I don't think I'll go there on air, Brian in Greenville.
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It's just a bit too edgy for me. Maybe that's
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something Leo would say. I don't know that I would, though.
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I understand the humor, though. Young Vern, problem with the
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defense was too many three and outs by the offense.
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Absolutely right. Dice shaking Lamar. If the league really wanted
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to punish Jacobs, they'd make him play behind that old line.
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Text of the week right there from dice shaking Lamar.
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You want to punish Josh Jacobs, you make him play.
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You make him take his beating from that offensive line. Now,
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after all these texts on the Cease Electronic Talk and
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Text Line, I have a call on the Talks and
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Text Line, 920-281-1570 from Illinois. I wonder how you're going
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to like this, Score Squad. This is from Johnny the
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Cubs fan. Hi, Johnny. You're live with Tony G.
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Tony G, thanks for having me on.
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Oh, absolutely, Johnny. Thanks for the call, and Johnny the
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Cubs fan, I wonder what you got for us today.
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Oh, how much time you got?
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That's a great question. That's a great question. I have,
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let's see, this next break, I'm probably a little over
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this next break. I'm probably two minutes away from my
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next break, but the floor is yours, Johnny. What's up?
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I got about 90 seconds here for you. Just want
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to talk baseball wild cards.
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Okay, what's up?
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Brewers, obviously, you know, Wisconsin fans, you guys are happy,
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but Us guys down here in the NL, you know,
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still fighting away here in Boston. Losing the series at
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home and great Wrigley Field to the Marlins.
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That's right.
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Drop the series 2-1. Give up home field advantage. And
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all the players are still going to get their contracts
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every dollar, every dollar. I want to know where you
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stand on incentive-based contracts. Jordan Love lost the game last night,
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got killed. $ 55 million a year.
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We have.
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Another manager of the Cubs will go nameless. $ 40 million
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over five years. That's $ 8 million a year. He'll retain
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every single dollar. They might not even get home field
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advantage in the wild card. Tony G, where do you
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stand on incentive-based contracts?
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Well, that's a great question, Johnny the Cubs fan. I
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think it's a good idea. Listen, you said something about
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Jordan Love. I don't think it's necessarily Jordan's love fault.
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He didn't play well, but the guy's internal clock is ruined.
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I mean, his offensive, he has no trust, no faith.
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In the offensive line, he just feels like he is
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under pressure from the get-go. So I don't blame Jordan Love.
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I understand the criticism.
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Jordan Love, he's the name of the offense. Let's go
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from guard to guard all the way across.
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To the center.
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They don't do their job. They shouldn't get paid.
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Yeah, I mean.
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We don't win games. We shouldn't get paid. We need
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to move sports into incentive-based. I mean, Shohei, is he
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worth what he's got? PCA, is he worth what he's got?
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If they win, you make the playoffs, here's $ 5 million.
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Make it to the next round, here's another.
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$ 10 million.
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Make it to the next round, here's $ 15 million. Win
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the World Series, here's $ 10 million. There's your $ 40 million
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a year. These guys can bat baseball. They can bat
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220 and have 10 home runs. Look at Vladimir Guerrero.
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Did you hear what he said? I want you to
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talk to him on Vlad Jr.
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Yeah, I did see that. I did see that.
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You're right.
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Maybe that would solve the problem of these players who,
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like an Anthony Rendon, who wins a World Series with
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the Nationals, is one of the best highly touted third
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baseman free agents in baseball, signs with the Angels, and
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then is like, yeah, I'm not going to play. This
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money's guaranteed. Guaranteed, meaning I get this money whether I
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play or not. I'm not going to play. And then
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the Angels are in hell because they have Anthony Rendon
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locked up at third base for years and years, and
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they can do nothing with him. So maybe incentives are
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the way to fix it. I don't know.
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Chris Bryant. Now injuries are a different game here, a
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different story, but I saw a statistic where Chris Bryant
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has only played X amount of games, which would equate
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to $ 1 million per games played down in Colorado.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That's another example.
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Think of that. Yep.
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Agreed.
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I don't know.
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I think there needs to be an adjustment based on incentives,
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I think. I think they need to recalculate every calendar,
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every sport, get rid of the contracts and have it
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all 70% incentive-based. I think you would see a much
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better product. They'd care more. They'd come out with more electricity.
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The games would be better. The competition would be better.
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Yeah, I agree with you. Maybe that is the way
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to go. But how do you institute that, getting that
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cleared with the Players Association and the players' unions in
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these leagues?
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I mean, it'll never go because they won't fall for
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it because that means they actually have to try.
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Well, yeah, exactly. I mean, and it just takes control
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away from them, and that's what both sides, I'm not
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just out here to say the Players Association is... the
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evil side of the two agreements, especially with a lockout
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coming for baseball. But just saying that both sides, they
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want control. And the deal that they have to work
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out allows each side to lose a little bit of control,
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which neither side really wants to do.
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That's right.
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Well, Tony G, thanks for having me on. That was
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my two spends.
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Yeah, thanks, Johnny, the Cubs fan from Illinois. Feel free
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to call back again sometime soon, huh?
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Maybe we'll make this every Friday at 1245. I'll see
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you soon. Go Cubs.
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Go Cubs, he ends it with. That's Johnny the Cubs fan. Again,
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all guests on the score are brought to you by
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Fleet Farm. Visit FleetFarm.com. All right, we've got to hit
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a break. When we come back, more thoughts. Got more
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texts coming in. Terrible Tim in Appleton says... So-called elite
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quarterback Jordan Love missed a lot of throws last night,
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and I kept hearing the Caleb Durbin clown music in
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my head when the Packers defense was trying to tackle
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Bajon Robinson. Agreed. 100% agreed with the defense there, Terrible Tim.
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Jordan Love did miss a lot of throws, but again,
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the internal clock is nonexistent, and who can blame him?
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Jerry Browndrey says, I agree with John. Ladd should be
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stiff of the year. What a loser, man.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we might have to find a way to work
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him into stiff of the day. He's not today's stiff
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of the day. I've got another one queued up. But
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we'll have to find a way to make him stiff
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of the day maybe next week. All right, we're going
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to take a break. When we come back, the score poll.
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Let's play the blame game, score squad. That when we
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come back.
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You're listening to the show with Tony G and Leo.
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You've been letting me know your thoughts here. I appreciate it.
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Keep them coming. I'll get to them all show long.
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Get out on the X at the score WI and
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let me know what you think, or at Tony G Nation,
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as I'll give you my three post-game takeaways here in
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a moment. Your score poll, powered by Jax Maintenance Service.
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Who do you put the blame on for the Packers'
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loss to the Falcons? Your options, defense, offensive line, Matt LaFleur,
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Brian Gutekunst. Right now, Matt LaFleur has the vote, 46%.
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Brian Gutekunst, 37%. Offensive line, 17%. 0% for the defense.
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And Leo responded to the tweet. Says, Guti picks the
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players for Matt LaFleur. It's arguably the worst offensive line
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ever assembled. The Badgers line is better, and they're not great, Bob.
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Good point. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying here. So
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it's the offensive line's fault, but who's responsible for putting
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that offensive line together out on the field? I just
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watched Dan Orlovsky on ESPN's Get Up with Mike Greenberg
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play two plays that should have been touchdowns for Green Bay,
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and they weren't because of how bad the offensive line is.
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It's a bad offensive line. And that's an understatement. Horrible, horrible,
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horrible offensive line. The play is borderline disrespectful to just
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how bad they are right now. Get out on the
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X-score squad, cast your vote. And again, the defense was
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horrible last night. The defense was also brutal. 500 yards
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given up.
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Terrible.
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I didn't expect that. I was a little bit surprised
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by that, but they were terrible. And they didn't get
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any votes in our score poll because they're overshadowed by
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how bad the offense was. I'll give you my three
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post-game takeaways, which I post after every game on my
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personal X account, my personal Twitter, at TonyGNation. So follow
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me if you want to see them live. I'll talk
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about them on air as I do each and every game.
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Here's takeaway number one. Surprised at how much Tucker Craft
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struggled tonight. That caught me off guard. You know, if
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the offense isn't in sync, the offense isn't in rhythm,
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you know, there's a million things you could point to.
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There were a lot... of Tucker Kraft drops last night.
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I mean, I like Tucker Kraft. I think he was
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worth the contract and it's one game. I'm sure he'll
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straighten it out, but he had stone hands in that
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game last night, man. He struggled catching the full. I mean,
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even he made a catch and got out of bounds
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and then the ball was squeaked out on the ground.
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There was that one play. I think he was, he
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was on the reception where it went off his hands
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and they quickly reviewed whether it was a catch or
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a fumble i mean he just had stone hands all
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night last night that surprised me i think you know
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for one of the best tight ends in football which
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i still think he can be calm after injury this
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is uh that was that was a surprise takeaway number
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two when was the last time the packers stopped a
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two-point conversion i'm genuinely i'm genuinely curious I mean, do
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they even try? Why trot out the defense on two-point conversions?
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They're not going to stop it. For as long as
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I've been watching Packers football, opponents' two-point attempts are guaranteed
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to be successful. Guaranteed. I mean, like Caleb Williams against
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the Rams in the playoffs last year. That incredible just
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toss it up. That was the 2014, 2014, the 12
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years ago NFC Championship game in Seattle. Russell Wilson just
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lofted up a fly ball to center field into the
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end zone, and it was caught for a good two-point conversion.
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I mean, not that that two-point conversion really meant anything
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last night. It was Atlanta just kind of putting the
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final nail in the coffin. But do you even try
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on two-point attempts, defense? When was the last time a
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two-point attempt from an opponent was stopped? I don't remember.
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I do not recall. Takeaway number three, the offensive line
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looks like they play in sand. I mean, it's not
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like they're going to win if you have a straight-up
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bull rush right at them, but God forbid a pass
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rusher take one step to the left. God forbid they
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don't take a straight route to the quarterback because the
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offensive line doesn't know what to do. The footwork is brutal.
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I mean, if they have to block moving to their side,
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forget about it. I mean, you might as well just
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lie down on the floor. It's unbelievable. They look like
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they play in sand. Those are my three post-game takeaways,
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which I post after each and every Packer game on
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my personal exit, Tony G Nation. Go ahead and give
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me a follow for more. I was tweeting throughout the
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game last night, tweeted for the Brewers 100th. So I
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got other content as well. Do a, uh, A pre-game
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selfie before I broadcast, courtesy of Elite Smiles. Elite Smiles Dental,
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hop the board for that. So I post those as well.
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I'll have a selfie get posted tonight before our broadcast.
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By the way, here on the score, 6.30 pre-game, 7
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o'clock kickoff, Appleton North at Nina in FVA football. I'll
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be on the call with my partner, Dick Nepinski. A
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pre-game selfie will get posted on my ex again at
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Tony G Nation. A couple more texts in on the
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Cease Electronic Talk and Text line. Ched getting in. Both
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Goody and LaFleur need to go. For a draft and
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develop organization, which the Packers are, the offensive line drafting
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is bad and the development is even worse. And this
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is Credit Union Chris, he's now calling himself. Okay, Chet
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or Credit Union Chris, I like it. I like it
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a lot. And I agree. Has there been one offensive
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line that Brian Gutekunst his hit on when he drafts.
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Like one offensive lineman.
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I don't know.
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Who is it? Terrible Tim and Appleton. And then I
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got to hit a break. I'm way over here. When
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was the last time the pack stopped a two-point conversion,
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you ask? That's a great question. I ask great questions,
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and anybody who asks me a question, that's a great
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question as well, Terrible Tim. That's a great question. I mean, seriously.
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When was the last time any of this has happened?
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I mean, how bad has the offensive line drafting been?
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I'm getting played off here because we've got to get
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to a break. Hour number two, more of this banter
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when we come back. Don't go anywhere. It's the show
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with Tony G and Leo.
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From the Fast Sign Studios. Welcome back, my.
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Friends, to the show that never ends. We're so glad
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you could attend. Come inside, come inside.
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It's the show with Tony G and Leo. What a
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sick joke. Not a single job in this town. There's nothing.
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Not a zip.
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Yeah.
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Unless you want to work 40 hours a week.
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Be on the show. Through the C's Electronics. Talk and
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Follow on X at Tony G Nation. Just say yes
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Hour number two of the show with Tony G and
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Leo starts right now, right here on 95.3 99.1 The Score.
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Thanks for tuning in. Having fun today? Well, I guess,
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if you want to call this fun. It's fun for me.
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But wish we were talking about a Packers victory. We
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up the score wisconsin The hour number two sports menu
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latest news at facebook.com slash tannersgrillandbar. Coming up on hour two,
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we'll continue to talk Packers. More of your thoughts throughout
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today's show. We also will guess the spread. Some Bucky banter.
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We'll do that here in a moment. As we didn't
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00:49:56.300 --> 00:49:58.820
do this yesterday, but the Badgers play at Penn State
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00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.239
on Saturday. We'll guess the spread and take a look
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at the score predictions that both Leo and I made
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at the start of the season. Around 1.20, we'll have
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some special guests on the program, a special guest in
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00:50:09.929 --> 00:50:13.210
Lydia Singleton from the Salvation Army Golf Outing on Monday.
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Tell you more about that at 1.20, and then we'll
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00:50:16.099 --> 00:50:18.780
get back to more Packer banter after that. We'll award
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Stiff of the Day, Stiff of the Week, and wrap
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it up. That is your show menu, the hour number
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two sports menu brought to you by Tanner's Grill and Bar.
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Before some Bucky banter, another text in on the Cease
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Electronic Talk and Text line. This one from Brian in Greenville.
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I'm going to change your name, Brian in Greenville, from
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Brian in Greenville to Brian, the researcher. I mean, your
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ability to pull stats and give us tidbits of information, excellent. Excellent.
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And he's doing that same thing here. Sends me a
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couple of screenshots with the caption saying, or the text saying, 2015,
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or excuse me, 2025, last season, Packers rank in the middle.
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Three of five were converted against them, okay? In terms
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of two-point conversions allowed. 2024, teams were one of five. Okay,
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so he's going against what I'm saying. He's saying, The
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Packers have only given up four of ten. I'd like
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to see those moments, though. And I know, okay, the
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stats prove I'm wrong. Or I'm not as correct in
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saying the Packers never stop a two-point conversion. But it
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00:51:19.539 --> 00:51:21.260
just feels like the big ones. I'd love to see
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those moments. Like, of those ten, going back to 2024,
1032
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of those ten, which ones were, like, meaningful? Meaningful. I guess,
1033
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because I don't know, like just something in my mind
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ticks every time the Packers give up a two point conversion.
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It's like, well, of course they're, you know, it's like
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the opponent needs a two point conversion to tie the
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game with two minutes left. And it's like, you might
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as well not even try it. Just, just give them
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the two points and kick off. Like it just in
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my head feels that way. Is that the fan in me?
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I guess the stats say it is, but I stand
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by it. You know, even though the stats kind of
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prove I'm wrong there, I stand by what I said, man.
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I stand by that takeaway. It just feels like And
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it's not, like, look at the two-point conversion yesterday. Guy
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was wide open in the end zone. No one within
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10 yards of him. Do you even try? Like, were
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you even trying to stop it? I know it was
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a meaningless two-point attempt and conversion from Atlanta, but, like,
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where is the defenders? Where are the defenders? Where is
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00:52:18.650 --> 00:52:23.610
the defense? It's a great question. Right, Terrible Tim? All right,
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00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.960
let's dive into some Bucky banter here for the next 5,
1053
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.199
10 minutes or so before our next break. Here in
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hour number two. The Badgers play tomorrow 4 p.m. I
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thought this game was later. I thought this was like
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a 7 o'clock game or 6 o'clock game. 4 p.m.
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in Penn State against the Nittany Lions. Penn State ranked
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number 13 in the coaches poll.
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The.
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Well, I knew the spread already, so I guess it's
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not guessing the spread. The spread is 10. All right.
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Penn State by 10. I'm not going to play a drop.
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I didn't play the game. Penn State by 10. I have...
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I have to get set up here with... Is there
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a water bottle? Yeah, there is. So there's a water bottle.
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I'm going to set across the way here. And I'm
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going to step back. This is live radio, folks. I
1068
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should have done this in the break, but I was
1069
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busy getting you ready for a Hurling Clark Law Firm
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traffic update. So the Badgers, I'll just tell you flat out,
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Penn State's a 10-point favorite, which feels kind of small
1072
00:53:22.829 --> 00:53:26.829
to me, if I'm being honest. I feel like... I
1073
00:53:26.929 --> 00:53:27.769
feel like the.
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The bad, the, the Nittany Lions should be like a,
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I would say like 17 and a half, 18 and
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00:53:37.110 --> 00:53:39.320
a half, right? Like this feels like Penn State would
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win by three touchdowns. So 10 is encouraging to me,
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I suppose, but whatever, over under in the game is
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44 and a half. ESPN's matchup predictor gives Penn State
1080
00:53:51.869 --> 00:53:57.130
an 87.6% chance to beat Wisconsin. Yeah, not great there. So, um,
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And again, we'll go through my predictions here in a
1082
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:01.179
moment that I made with Leo. I'm going to turn
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on the other mic where I have the bottle stationed. Okay,
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00:54:03.860 --> 00:54:05.199
I'm a one-man crew here. I don't know what you
1085
00:54:05.219 --> 00:54:10.219
want me to do, Scorchwell. But the water bottle is
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stationed across from me on the Formica countertop. I'm going
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00:54:13.929 --> 00:54:16.530
to step back a ways. It's right by mic three.
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00:54:16.550 --> 00:54:19.389
I'm going to turn on mic three here. So I'm
1089
00:54:19.409 --> 00:54:21.730
going to step back a ways. I have to toss
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00:54:21.769 --> 00:54:24.550
between the monitors. I'm sure engineering loves to hear this.
1091
00:54:24.969 --> 00:54:28.230
The monitors, the board. And one of the microphones. So
1092
00:54:28.269 --> 00:54:31.309
I have to fit it through. It's not a long shot.
1093
00:54:31.469 --> 00:54:33.949
It's not a long pass. But I have to fit it.
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00:54:33.969 --> 00:54:35.630
I have to really thread the needle to get it.
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All right.
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00:54:36.309 --> 00:54:38.289
So let's see here. I'm going to move the mic
1097
00:54:38.309 --> 00:54:41.239
in my favor. I'm going to step back into the corner.
1098
00:54:41.590 --> 00:54:43.480
And I'm going to take a throwing stance. This is
1099
00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:46.280
a live radio. This is what you listen for. So
1100
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.219
I got a football in my hand. A little foam football.
1101
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.079
I'm going to try to knock over this water bottle
1102
00:54:51.219 --> 00:54:53.659
on the opposing countertop from where I'm standing. It is
1103
00:54:53.699 --> 00:54:56.409
about a 20-yard pass. No, I'm just kidding.
1104
00:54:56.570 --> 00:54:56.739
All right.
1105
00:54:57.860 --> 00:55:00.219
Again, threading the, not a very long pass here. It's
1106
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:01.050
a smaller studio.
1107
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It's a small room.
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00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:02.969
I don't, it's not like I can throw it 10
1109
00:55:02.969 --> 00:55:05.630
yards down the field. But again, I really have to
1110
00:55:05.650 --> 00:55:08.550
thread the needle behind, but through, I have to thread
1111
00:55:08.570 --> 00:55:10.929
the needle through all this expensive radio equipment. All right,
1112
00:55:10.949 --> 00:55:16.190
here we go. Oh my goodness. You heard it. You
1113
00:55:16.250 --> 00:55:18.820
heard it. We get a replay on that. You heard
1114
00:55:18.860 --> 00:55:22.840
that bottle go down. If that was a glass water bottle,
1115
00:55:22.900 --> 00:55:27.239
it would have shattered at impact. I'm telling you. Brian
1116
00:55:27.260 --> 00:55:33.110
in Greenville says, pain! As he brings up, I believe
1117
00:55:33.130 --> 00:55:39.289
this is the 2014 playoffs. Where the Packers couldn't stop
1118
00:55:39.329 --> 00:55:42.860
a two-point conversion. Just the 2014 playoffs in general. Harris
1119
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.500
from Harrisburg back in here. OMG, the spread is only 10.
1120
00:55:45.500 --> 00:55:51.360
Take the over. So take the, yeah, really. Take the
1121
00:55:51.420 --> 00:55:54.760
Nittany Lions. Minus 10. I would say so. Like, again,
1122
00:55:54.860 --> 00:55:56.659
like I said, this is going to be a three-touchdown game.
1123
00:55:58.460 --> 00:56:01.639
When it's all said and done. I don't know. We'll
1124
00:56:01.659 --> 00:56:06.030
have to wait and see. Again, score squad. You can't
1125
00:56:06.170 --> 00:56:07.309
see what I'm doing, so I have to kind of
1126
00:56:07.369 --> 00:56:09.489
explain it like a play-by-play man would, like I am.
1127
00:56:10.150 --> 00:56:14.909
But that throw was very good. I'm very proud of
1128
00:56:14.949 --> 00:56:18.030
myself for that throw. Threaded the needle through thousands of
1129
00:56:18.090 --> 00:56:22.300
dollars worth of radio equipment. So engineering can come give
1130
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.579
me a pat on the back in a break. All right,
1131
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:26.320
let's take a look at the predictions that both Leo
1132
00:56:26.340 --> 00:56:27.840
and I made for this Penn State game at the
1133
00:56:27.860 --> 00:56:35.719
start of the year. So, we both predicted losses. Leo
1134
00:56:35.780 --> 00:56:42.570
said 20-17. I said 24-10. In my case, Penn State
1135
00:56:42.590 --> 00:56:46.590
would cover the 10. In Leo's case, they would not.
1136
00:56:49.170 --> 00:56:51.989
I'm going to stick with my guns here and say 24-10.
1137
00:56:52.469 --> 00:56:55.320
I don't know that the Badgers get to 10. You know,
1138
00:56:55.340 --> 00:57:00.519
maybe they score a touchdown. But I really think Penn State...
1139
00:57:00.829 --> 00:57:02.949
could run away with it. There's potential Penn State runs
1140
00:57:02.989 --> 00:57:08.059
away with this game. Potential. Not saying it's going to happen. Potential. So,
1141
00:57:09.179 --> 00:57:11.719
let's gear up for our next break here. We have
1142
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:13.639
guests standing by. Before we do, I want to tell
1143
00:57:13.659 --> 00:57:15.679
you about Scuba's Poor House. It's Friday's score squad, and
1144
00:57:15.699 --> 00:57:18.980
we recommend you get over to Scuba's. For the best
1145
00:57:19.019 --> 00:57:22.860
Friday night fish fry around, check it out tonight. And
1146
00:57:22.889 --> 00:57:27.070
their incredible lineup of fish. Perch, walleye, haddock, deep fried,
1147
00:57:27.510 --> 00:57:30.480
blackened or pan fried, Mardi Gras shrimp, ahi tuna, Or
1148
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.699
just go big and get the seafood platter. Be sure
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00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.360
to get the hand-muddled Old Fashions as well. Just ask Ben.
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00:57:36.449 --> 00:57:39.090
Don't miss out. For the best Friday night fish fry tonight,
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Scuba's Poor House, 1309 East Wisconsin Avenue in Appleton. Time
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for another break. As I mentioned, when we come back,
1153
00:57:46.489 --> 00:57:52.030
we'll be joined by a special guest, Lydia Singleton, with
1154
00:57:52.050 --> 00:57:54.539
the Salvation Army Golf Outing, telling you about what's coming
1155
00:57:54.579 --> 00:57:57.039
up next week. Hear more about that after the break.
1156
00:57:57.059 --> 00:57:59.159
Don't go anywhere. It's the show with Tony G and
1157
00:57:59.179 --> 00:57:59.920
Leo right here on The Scoreboard.
1158
00:58:23.550 --> 00:58:26.590
You're listening to the show with Tony G and Leo.
1159
00:58:33.329 --> 00:58:34.889
Welcome back to the show with Tony G and Leo.
1160
00:58:35.809 --> 00:58:37.949
At this time, we have a special guest in the studio.
1161
00:58:39.090 --> 00:58:43.389
Lydia Singleton from the Salvation Army Golf Outing. Salvation Army
1162
00:58:44.030 --> 00:58:46.199
is having a golf outing coming up pretty soon here. Hi, Lydia.
1163
00:58:46.219 --> 00:58:46.559
How are you?
1164
00:58:46.579 --> 00:58:48.679
I am well. Thanks so much for having me.
1165
00:58:48.699 --> 00:58:50.119
Of course. Thank you for taking the time to join
1166
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:53.389
me in studio today. Looking forward to this conversation. And
1167
00:58:53.429 --> 00:58:55.369
before we dive into the golf outing and the event
1168
00:58:55.409 --> 00:58:58.550
and everything that's going on, you're fairly new to Salvation
1169
00:58:58.570 --> 00:59:00.389
Army Fox Cities, right? Tell us a little more about
1170
00:59:00.670 --> 00:59:04.070
your role in the organization in general. Introduce yourself and
1171
00:59:04.170 --> 00:59:05.349
Salvation Army to our listeners.
1172
00:59:05.630 --> 00:59:06.150
Okay, great.
1173
00:59:06.190 --> 00:59:06.590
Thank you.
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I'm the new Director of Development and Community Relations. So
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a big part of my job is really being a
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bridge between the Salvation Army and the Fox Cities community.
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What draws me here, or what drew me here, was
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learning all that they do for our neighbors, for our
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local community. And I've spent time just falling in love
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with them as I researched, and this opportunity came up,
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and I was really excited to make.
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An impact locally.
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Of course, yeah, and that's exactly what Salvation Army does.
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They do phenomenal work, and so there is a golf
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outing coming up on Monday. What is the event raising
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00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.480
money for? Where does... that go to support the community
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here locally and explain this event, the golf outing, coming
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up on Monday?
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Thanks for asking.
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So the golf outing is a fundraiser, but really it's
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about supporting the work we're doing right here in the
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Fox Cities and all of our programs. We're helping individuals
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and families who are facing very real challenges, food insecurity,
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housing instability, financial hardship, and helping people move toward greater stability.
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So Monday will absolutely be fun. There's going to be
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a live auction that I'm very excited about. Lots of
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great prizes. But there's a very important reason behind it,
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and that's because a lot of Fox City's families and
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communities rely on us.
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Yeah, absolutely. And when people hear the Salvation Army, you
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probably think of the red kettles at Christmas. What are
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01:00:34.829 --> 01:00:37.349
some things the Salvation Army is doing in the Fox
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Cities that people may not know about?
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And I was one of those people, for sure. I
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knew the kettles. I knew the bell ringers.
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Then I got there and thought, wait, they do all this?
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There's emergency assistance, food assistance, case management programs like Pathway
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to Hope.
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And Pathway to Hope is amazing.
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It works with people with housing insecurity all the way
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to get them to housing security. It does things like
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credit counseling and talking about what your credit score is
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and really putting them on a path toward housing security.
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And one of my goals in this position is to
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tell the stories of the people that are being affected better.
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And that's my role and that's what I'm here to do.
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And I can tell you that for those of you
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that want to ring the bell, October 1st is when
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we will be live with all of the dates. So safoxcities.org.
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It's a great thing to do with your family. Great
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01:01:31.389 --> 01:01:33.090
new family tradition. It's a great thing to do with
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your company. You know, sign up for bell ringing. We
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01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:41.150
do so well on our kettles that have live bell ringers.
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01:01:41.170 --> 01:01:44.429
Yeah, absolutely. Well, you had mentioned something about a little
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bit about giving the voice or telling the stories more
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about people and families. Who are those people? Who are
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01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:52.280
those families that you're serving right here in our own community?
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Yeah.
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So they're your neighbor. They're literally your neighbor. One of
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my favorite things that so I love Mother Teresa.
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Sure.
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And one of the things that she didn't say explicitly,
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but it was the answer to a question that she'd
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01:02:07.539 --> 01:02:09.960
been asked many times, but essentially it was, if you
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01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:12.079
want to save the world, go home and love your family.
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And it really is true. It's, it's starting right here.
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It's starting right where you are, your family, your neighbor,
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01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.289
everybody wants to live in a good neighborhood. And how
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do you do that? How do you get a good neighborhood,
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01:02:23.349 --> 01:02:27.809
but help your neighbors? So they're literally next door to you, everyone.
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01:02:27.829 --> 01:02:31.829
Like it's, The people that come through the doors have
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the most harrowing stories, and our staff holds them with
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01:02:37.230 --> 01:02:41.090
such dignity that I'm very, very glad to be a
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part of the organization.
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01:02:43.059 --> 01:02:47.860
Absolutely. As I mentioned, incredibly important work. Again, we're having
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01:02:47.900 --> 01:02:50.480
a conversation with Lydia of the Salvation Army. You're the
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01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.380
Director of Development and Community Relations for the organization. What
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01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:57.400
does community partnership look like? to you beyond simply just
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01:02:57.420 --> 01:02:59.659
writing a check? Explain to me a little more about
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01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:00.280
what that looks like.
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01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:00.739
Sure.
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01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.980
So there are many ways to partner with us. Yes,
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01:03:04.099 --> 01:03:09.739
financial support is incredibly important. SAFoxCities.org, if you're inspired in
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01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.650
this moment. But sometimes the most valuable thing somebody can
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01:03:12.690 --> 01:03:16.030
give me is a connection. Honestly, introduce me to somebody,
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01:03:16.429 --> 01:03:19.210
invite us to speak to your company, volunteer, sponsor.
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01:03:18.889 --> 01:03:20.070
An event, share an idea.
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01:03:20.670 --> 01:03:23.590
I want businesses and community members to see us as
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01:03:23.630 --> 01:03:26.429
an organization they can have an actual relationship with.
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01:03:26.690 --> 01:03:29.289
Okay. Okay. What kind of opportunities are there for local
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businesses that want to partner with the Salvation Army through sponsorships, events, volunteering,
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01:03:33.820 --> 01:03:37.300
or other involvement? What do those other opportunities look like
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01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:37.780
for businesses?
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01:03:37.900 --> 01:03:38.219
Sure.
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01:03:38.619 --> 01:03:40.239
So first of all, I'd love for them to call me.
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920-734-3324 is our number. Lydia Singleton. You can ask for
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01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:43.320
me directly if you'd like.
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01:03:48.969 --> 01:03:52.989
And so because I don't think community partnerships should necessarily
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01:03:53.030 --> 01:03:56.840
be one size fits all, we can talk about sponsorships, volunteering,
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01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:02.139
employee engagement, event partnerships, whatever makes sense for that organization.
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01:04:02.619 --> 01:04:05.539
And I'm very relationship driven. I'd much rather sit down
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and have coffee and ask what matters to your company
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01:04:07.940 --> 01:04:09.920
and where might we partner up?
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01:04:10.139 --> 01:04:10.440
Right.
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01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:11.780
Yep. Yep.
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01:04:11.929 --> 01:04:14.769
And so the Salvation Army, Fox Cities, based on what
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I know, they have an advisory board. What role does
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01:04:17.909 --> 01:04:20.969
the board play and what kinds of community leaders would
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01:04:20.989 --> 01:04:23.579
you love to see become involved in this type of opportunity?
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01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:24.280
I love this question.
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01:04:24.420 --> 01:04:24.639
Okay.
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01:04:24.659 --> 01:04:27.900
So our advisory board is a really, it's a connection
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01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:31.699
between the Salvation Army and the community. They bring their experience,
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01:04:31.739 --> 01:04:34.559
their relationships, their ideas, and their understanding of the Fox
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01:04:34.579 --> 01:04:37.219
Cities to the table. And I'm interested in meeting with
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01:04:37.260 --> 01:04:42.110
people from all different areas of business, finance, healthcare, education, media,
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01:04:43.210 --> 01:04:46.409
religious establishments, people who are deeply connected in the community.
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01:04:46.820 --> 01:04:50.139
You don't necessarily have to come in already knowing everything
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01:04:50.179 --> 01:04:51.119
about the Salvation Army.
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01:04:51.260 --> 01:04:52.119
I certainly didn't.
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01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.360
I'm looking for people who care about the community and
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01:04:55.420 --> 01:04:57.260
want to be a part of making it stronger.
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01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.420
Yeah, and so for those people who do want to
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01:04:59.460 --> 01:05:01.570
make it stronger, who do want to, you know, if
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01:05:01.610 --> 01:05:03.849
their community leaders could be, like you said, like we
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01:05:03.869 --> 01:05:07.690
just mentioned, advisory board. But if someone listening today has connections, ideas,
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01:05:07.710 --> 01:05:10.610
let's say resources just in general, they think could help
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01:05:11.210 --> 01:05:13.659
the Salvation Army grow. Do you want to hear from them?
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01:05:13.820 --> 01:05:17.000
Yes, absolutely. That's an amazing question. And absolutely.
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01:05:17.059 --> 01:05:24.550
So again, the phone number 920-734-3324, safoxcities.org. You'll be able
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to sign up for bell ringing starting on October 1st.
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01:05:27.110 --> 01:05:30.829
But right now you can go and look around virtually
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01:05:30.909 --> 01:05:33.090
and see what we're all about. But I would love
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01:05:33.130 --> 01:05:35.010
for you to reach out to me personally. So please
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01:05:35.050 --> 01:05:37.670
call me, Lydia Singleton. I'm open to talking to all
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01:05:37.690 --> 01:05:37.909
of you.
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01:05:38.179 --> 01:05:40.480
And as we mentioned, when Lydia first got on with us,
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01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.349
she's new. to the role and new to the organization
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01:05:43.389 --> 01:05:45.090
a bit here. So as someone coming into this role,
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01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.239
relatively new, what has surprised or impressed you the most
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01:05:49.619 --> 01:05:51.940
about the work happening locally that you're seeing?
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01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.380
So it's the scope of the work. I came in
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01:05:54.420 --> 01:05:57.599
thinking I had a pretty good understanding of exactly what
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01:05:57.619 --> 01:06:00.639
the Salvation Army did. And very quickly, I realized that
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01:06:00.659 --> 01:06:03.739
there was so much more to it. You know, there aren't,
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01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:07.769
these people aren't numbers on a spreadsheet. They are real people.
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01:06:07.949 --> 01:06:13.989
And our staff really walks alongside them through their hardest moments.
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01:06:15.130 --> 01:06:17.920
And then looking beyond, so obviously the big event coming
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01:06:17.980 --> 01:06:20.579
up is Monday's golf outing. And at this point, it's
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01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:22.980
a little late in the game to get involved for
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01:06:23.019 --> 01:06:26.360
this event specifically. But beyond this golf outing, what are
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01:06:26.380 --> 01:06:29.099
you hoping to accomplish in the Fox Cities, whether it's
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01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:30.760
the rest of this year, you know, if we were
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01:06:30.780 --> 01:06:32.400
to talk at this point next year, like just over
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01:06:32.420 --> 01:06:35.070
the next year, what are the goals you're looking to accomplish?
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01:06:35.170 --> 01:06:35.329
Yeah.
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01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:38.760
So I want more people to know the Salvation Army.
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01:06:38.780 --> 01:06:40.960
That's probably the simplest way to say it. I want
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01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.099
someone to hear Salvation Army, Fox Cities, and understand what
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01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:47.219
we actually do here. And from that awareness, I want
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to build relationships with businesses, donors, volunteers, other nonprofits, community leaders,
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01:06:53.309 --> 01:06:56.690
because I think when those relationships get stronger, our ability
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01:06:56.710 --> 01:06:58.730
to serve people in our community gets stronger.
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01:06:58.869 --> 01:06:59.309
Yeah, yeah.
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01:06:59.329 --> 01:07:01.179
Oh, that's nice. That's nicely said there at the end.
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01:07:01.670 --> 01:07:04.449
So for someone listening, you've given out your number. You've
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01:07:04.469 --> 01:07:07.829
given out the website. What What is the easiest way
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01:07:07.889 --> 01:07:10.570
for someone who's never been involved with the Salvation Army before?
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01:07:10.590 --> 01:07:12.670
What's their easiest way to start a relationship with you
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01:07:12.949 --> 01:07:13.530
and to learn more?
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01:07:13.710 --> 01:07:18.269
Yeah, so call me, 920-734-3324.
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01:07:18.690 --> 01:07:19.170
Call me.
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01:07:19.889 --> 01:07:23.969
I'll give you a tour of some of our facilities.
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01:07:24.010 --> 01:07:26.909
We have three different ones. We can have coffee, and
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01:07:26.929 --> 01:07:29.190
we can talk, and I'll tell you about our programs,
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01:07:29.329 --> 01:07:30.829
and I just welcome that.
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01:07:30.849 --> 01:07:31.349
So again, that's 920-734-3324.
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01:07:33.699 --> 01:07:35.800
And let's end here, Lydia. If you could say one
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01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:39.239
thing directly to business owners, community leaders, potential donors who
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01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:42.630
might be listening this afternoon, what would you want them
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01:07:42.670 --> 01:07:44.369
to know about the Salvation Army Fox Cities?
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01:07:44.969 --> 01:07:48.329
Okay, I'd say come get to know us. Come see
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01:07:48.349 --> 01:07:51.269
what's happening here before you decide what the Salvation Army
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01:07:51.429 --> 01:07:53.929
is based on what you've seen from the outside. I
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01:07:53.969 --> 01:07:56.710
did that myself before taking this position, and I was
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01:07:57.429 --> 01:08:00.489
genuinely surprised by the breadth of work happening right here
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01:08:00.510 --> 01:08:03.349
in the Fox Cities. And if something you hear connects
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01:08:03.409 --> 01:08:05.829
with you, call me. Maybe you become a donor. Maybe
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01:08:05.909 --> 01:08:09.070
your company becomes a partner. Maybe you volunteer. Maybe you
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01:08:09.090 --> 01:08:12.070
become an advisory board member. Or maybe you simply introduce
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01:08:12.110 --> 01:08:14.719
me to somebody I should know. There are so many
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01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:16.579
ways to be a part of this work. And my
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job is to open the door. So I've opened it now.
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Nice.
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01:08:20.979 --> 01:08:23.380
Very well said and well put. So obviously the golf
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awning is coming up on Monday. I imagine you'll be
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pretty busy for it. Are you planning on taking any
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01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.539
swings yourself or you'll be busy working?
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01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:32.560
I have to say, I don't want to show up
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the other golfers. No, that's a lie. I would not
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do well. Golf is so frustrating to me. But I'm
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really excited to, you know, meet and talk and ride
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01:08:42.729 --> 01:08:45.229
around in golf carts because who doesn't love that, you know?
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01:08:45.390 --> 01:08:45.649
Yes.
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01:08:46.029 --> 01:08:47.810
And the live auction is going to be super fun.
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01:08:48.250 --> 01:08:49.829
Oh, and look at this. I just looked up weather
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on Monday here in the Fox Cities.
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I know.
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01:08:51.220 --> 01:08:54.229
71 degrees and sunny. Not a cloud in the forecast
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for Monday. So that's awesome. Hoping everything goes well with
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the golf outing.
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01:08:59.180 --> 01:08:59.369
Thank you.
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01:08:59.500 --> 01:09:01.760
Hoping everything goes well moving forward past the golf outing
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01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:04.560
as well with the Salvation Army. Lydia Singleton from the
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01:09:04.579 --> 01:09:06.659
Salvation Army, thanks for taking the time to join the show.
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01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:07.800
Thank you so much, Tony.
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01:09:07.819 --> 01:09:09.739
All right, we're going to take another break. And when
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we come back, more sports talk regarding the Packers and
1389
01:09:12.670 --> 01:09:15.210
their tough game last night. But again, that was Lydia
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01:09:15.250 --> 01:09:18.550
Singleton with the Salvation Army Fox Cities. Guests on the
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01:09:18.569 --> 01:09:21.789
score brought to you by Fleet Farms. Visit FleetFarm.com for
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more information on that side. More show with Tony G
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and Leo when we come back. Don't go anywhere. A
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Oh, my back. I threw out my bag. Just take
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01:10:14.020 --> 01:10:14.920
one dip and end it.
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01:10:28.220 --> 01:10:29.920
Welcome back to the show with Tony G and Leo
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01:10:29.939 --> 01:10:32.699
took that last break a little early after the interview
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01:10:32.739 --> 01:10:38.100
with Lydia Singleton. So we got 20 minutes remaining commercial free.
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Much.
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Thanks to Lydia Singleton for coming in though. We wanted
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01:10:43.260 --> 01:10:45.119
to make sure we had that important conversation on the
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01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.159
books before Monday's golf outing for the salvation army. Again,
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a little late, a little late in the game to
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get involved with the golf outing itself, but still plenty
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01:10:51.939 --> 01:10:54.520
of time to get involved. If you want to ring kettles,
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01:10:54.859 --> 01:10:56.399
if you want to just be involved with the salvation
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01:10:56.430 --> 01:10:59.270
army and, In general, moving forward, still always plenty of
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01:10:59.310 --> 01:11:03.210
time for that. Much thanks to Lydia for stepping in here. Again,
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01:11:03.350 --> 01:11:06.550
final 20 minutes, commercial free, but David Spriggetti in Appleton says,
1416
01:11:07.090 --> 01:11:09.989
great interview, Tony. Leo could learn from you. Yes, he
1417
01:11:10.029 --> 01:11:12.010
could in a lot of ways. In more ways, I think,
1418
01:11:12.510 --> 01:11:17.789
than he realizes. Now we have fun around here. Thanks
1419
01:11:17.829 --> 01:11:20.590
for chiming in today, score squad. Let's just kind of
1420
01:11:20.630 --> 01:11:22.890
pick up right where we left off in the conversation
1421
01:11:23.529 --> 01:11:27.039
about the Packers. Because there's a couple important points I
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01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:30.000
want to make. And a lot, I mean, I think
1423
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:31.880
now that I work in sports radio full-time, a lot
1424
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.300
of people kind of hit me up in important ways.
1425
01:11:34.340 --> 01:11:38.350
And I appreciate that because all these conversations are fun
1426
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:40.090
to have about, I guess not fun, you'd rather be
1427
01:11:40.130 --> 01:11:41.930
talking about a Packers win. But I have a friend
1428
01:11:42.369 --> 01:11:45.689
who I know from my time in broadcasting. He actually
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01:11:45.710 --> 01:11:47.329
lives out in L.A. now, so I'll call him Greg
1430
01:11:47.369 --> 01:11:49.630
in L.A. on the Cease Electronic Talk and Text line.
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01:11:51.289 --> 01:11:54.039
And he and I were texting about the Packers win.
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01:11:54.659 --> 01:11:57.460
And he said something along the lines in our conversation
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01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:03.949
of even the dolphins game or like some of the
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01:12:03.970 --> 01:12:05.529
games coming up on the schedule. He was looking ahead
1435
01:12:05.569 --> 01:12:07.649
and he goes, I don't even see a gimme game
1436
01:12:07.689 --> 01:12:11.710
on the schedule. And I said, Greg, last night was
1437
01:12:11.770 --> 01:12:15.140
supposed to be the gimme game. The foul, the Owen
1438
01:12:15.180 --> 01:12:17.399
two Falcons in your home opener was supposed to be
1439
01:12:17.420 --> 01:12:20.399
the gimme. I'll be honest with you. Score squad. I
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01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:26.449
may call me arrogant. Call me, um, the jinx, whatever
1441
01:12:26.489 --> 01:12:28.710
you want to put on it. I went into that
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01:12:28.750 --> 01:12:33.489
game thinking the Packers would win. I thought for sure. Listen,
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01:12:33.850 --> 01:12:35.649
Packers get a win here. They'll be 2-1. You head
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01:12:35.670 --> 01:12:38.100
to a winless Tampa Bay team. You don't play well
1445
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:39.640
out there, but maybe you can get a win against
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01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:41.939
a struggling Tampa Bay team right now, and you're 3-1
1447
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.279
by the time you play the Bears. Falcons will be 0-3.
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01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:50.869
You're on, again, a backup quarterback. And here we are
1449
01:12:52.149 --> 01:12:56.279
talking about a loss that In which it was so bad,
1450
01:12:56.300 --> 01:13:00.020
I literally was speech... Okay, so I just gave you
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01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.500
my three post-game takeaways that I post on X after
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01:13:02.539 --> 01:13:05.420
each Packer game. And we go through them here on
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01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:10.430
the show. I retyped those, I'm not exaggerating, about 30 times.
1454
01:13:11.090 --> 01:13:13.829
Because I would start to type, I would start to
1455
01:13:13.869 --> 01:13:16.630
think about my takeaways, I would start to generate a takeaway,
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01:13:16.710 --> 01:13:21.229
and I just wouldn't have words. I was speechless. I
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01:13:21.270 --> 01:13:27.100
don't know what to say. The offensive line... is I
1458
01:13:27.149 --> 01:13:29.510
don't think I've ever seen the offensive line in this
1459
01:13:29.569 --> 01:13:35.710
much trouble. When has it ever been? I mean, in
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01:13:35.750 --> 01:13:41.810
my lifetime, I've gone from Chad Clifton, Mark Tauscher, to
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01:13:42.310 --> 01:13:48.119
Brian Balaga, TJ Lang, Josh Sitton, David Bakhtiari, Elton Jenkins
1462
01:13:48.180 --> 01:13:49.680
at the start of his career. When he started his
1463
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:51.000
career in Green Bay, he was one of the best
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01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:53.539
offensive linemen in football, and then he tore his ACL.
1465
01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:57.420
And he's still a really good offensive lineman. And now
1466
01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:02.760
I'm watching this. I'm watching Jacob Monk on the offensive line.
1467
01:14:02.859 --> 01:14:13.729
I'm watching Aaron Banks not be healthy. I'm watching Donovan...
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01:14:11.170 --> 01:14:15.489
What am I looking at here? I mean, the highlights... Again,
1469
01:14:15.550 --> 01:14:18.489
I say this after each game because I reference them
1470
01:14:18.550 --> 01:14:21.210
so much. But if you just scroll through social media,
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01:14:21.529 --> 01:14:24.880
specifically X, Twitter... If you just scroll through Twitter after
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01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:29.430
a Packer game, there are a lot of people who
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01:14:29.489 --> 01:14:33.670
gather highlights, you know, like look through film and post
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01:14:33.689 --> 01:14:37.250
them to X. And yet again, I'm going to reference
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01:14:37.270 --> 01:14:42.989
them because the offensive line on multiple occasions yesterday, I mean,
1476
01:14:43.020 --> 01:14:48.500
there was one picture, there was one picture of like
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01:14:48.739 --> 01:14:52.060
offensive linemen, like Christian Watson was running free down the field.
1478
01:14:53.460 --> 01:14:55.619
And it was the scoop and score fumble. Jordan Love
1479
01:14:56.800 --> 01:15:00.369
got toasted in the backfield. Because four offensive linemen were
1480
01:15:00.390 --> 01:15:04.590
blocking one defender. Leaving a free alley. I mean, an
1481
01:15:04.789 --> 01:15:12.140
untouched pass rusher to de-cleat Jordan Love. What are we
1482
01:15:12.149 --> 01:15:17.420
doing here? Is anybody coaching this team? Is anybody watching
1483
01:15:17.500 --> 01:15:18.520
film with these guys?
1484
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:20.340
Again.
1485
01:15:21.729 --> 01:15:25.409
I'm kind of having Matt LaFleur's back a little bit. Again,
1486
01:15:26.329 --> 01:15:30.789
not excusing the bad play calling, the poor time management, the, again,
1487
01:15:30.829 --> 01:15:36.239
lack of discipline, a lot of costly penalties yesterday. But, like,
1488
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:38.100
to just go, this is a Matt LaFleur problem, you
1489
01:15:38.140 --> 01:15:39.979
fire Matt LaFleur and all your problems are solved.
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01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:40.779
I don't know.
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01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.619
I don't know that. Because the offensive line being put
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01:15:43.659 --> 01:15:47.260
together by Brian Gutekunst is a huge problem. The coaching staff,
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01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:55.170
besides Matt LaFleur, like Luke Butkus... I mean, what would
1494
01:15:55.189 --> 01:15:58.920
you say you do here? Great question. That's what I'm wondering.
1495
01:16:00.420 --> 01:16:03.039
Adam Stenovich, like, are you guys watching film with these guys?
1496
01:16:04.460 --> 01:16:04.880
At all?
1497
01:16:06.420 --> 01:16:09.359
Where is that drop? Where is it? I have it
1498
01:16:09.420 --> 01:16:11.060
somewhere around here. I don't know where it is. I
1499
01:16:11.090 --> 01:16:11.609
can't find it.
1500
01:16:13.350 --> 01:16:15.149
Let me ask you this, Tony. What the hell do
1501
01:16:15.170 --> 01:16:16.170
you know about play calling?
1502
01:16:16.210 --> 01:16:17.529
No, that's not the one.
1503
01:16:17.850 --> 01:16:20.489
What would you say you do here?
1504
01:16:20.510 --> 01:16:22.710
That's a great question. And I like to ask great
1505
01:16:22.729 --> 01:16:24.939
questions around here. DK not from Chaska. What the hell
1506
01:16:24.949 --> 01:16:28.359
do you know about play calling? Seriously. One of my
1507
01:16:28.380 --> 01:16:28.899
favorite drops.
1508
01:16:29.020 --> 01:16:30.880
Let me ask you this, Tony. What the hell do
1509
01:16:30.899 --> 01:16:31.880
you know about play calling?
1510
01:16:31.899 --> 01:16:34.159
I know it's supposed to be a lot better, a
1511
01:16:34.220 --> 01:16:37.319
lot better than what that was. I can't wait to
1512
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.880
talk to Bill on Monday and be like, all right, Bill.
1513
01:16:39.899 --> 01:16:43.760
All right, Billy. What do you think now, pal? No,
1514
01:16:43.779 --> 01:16:46.609
I don't think that, listen, the play calling wasn't that
1515
01:16:46.689 --> 01:16:49.350
bad last night. It wasn't great. It was not good.
1516
01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:51.699
But it wasn't that bad. It was kind of average.
1517
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:53.239
I mean, there was plenty of times you started to
1518
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:56.500
see Matthew Golden in the backfield. Sky Moore get the football.
1519
01:16:57.579 --> 01:16:59.479
There was one play that stood out to me. It
1520
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.300
was when Matthew Golden was in the backfield. They were
1521
01:17:01.340 --> 01:17:05.159
in shotgun. And it was a quick pass to Golden
1522
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:07.399
in the flat. Had some blockers and turned upfield. Turned
1523
01:17:07.420 --> 01:17:09.239
it into a nice game. There were some good plays
1524
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:10.899
in the mix.
1525
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:13.380
So.
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01:17:14.229 --> 01:17:17.289
Brian in Greenville says, finally understand what Bears fans have
1527
01:17:17.310 --> 01:17:19.649
been going through every Sunday for the last 41 years.
1528
01:17:19.710 --> 01:17:21.850
Turns out it's a weekly cry for help they endure.
1529
01:17:22.750 --> 01:17:23.069
Same.
1530
01:17:23.489 --> 01:17:25.590
I mean, that's the stage that Packer fans are in
1531
01:17:25.649 --> 01:17:30.659
now where you're kind of crying for help. I said
1532
01:17:30.699 --> 01:17:32.920
it in hour one. I'll say it again. Kyle Brandt
1533
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:36.520
said it best about Packers fans. They don't know what
1534
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:40.680
to do with themselves watching the Packers like this. They
1535
01:17:40.699 --> 01:17:43.340
have no idea what to do. Like, you see the
1536
01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:46.260
dejected looks that they were showing on the broadcast last night.
1537
01:17:47.380 --> 01:17:50.590
I mean, it's just, you just expect this team to
1538
01:17:50.619 --> 01:17:56.529
be good. And when they're not just not good, but bad,
1539
01:17:57.029 --> 01:18:00.550
you go, I don't know. Like, you're kind of stunned. Like,
1540
01:18:00.590 --> 01:18:03.640
that's why I said I retyped my takeaways so many times.
1541
01:18:04.340 --> 01:18:08.789
Because I'm just in shock now. that it's this bad.
1542
01:18:09.189 --> 01:18:10.810
You know, if you lose that game and it's a
1543
01:18:10.869 --> 01:18:14.829
shootout and the offense looks good and Jordan Love isn't
1544
01:18:14.869 --> 01:18:17.470
under pressure every time he gets the football right as
1545
01:18:17.510 --> 01:18:22.170
he catches the snap, you know, if you don't have
1546
01:18:22.189 --> 01:18:24.390
a blocked field goal, if the defense doesn't give up
1547
01:18:24.390 --> 01:18:27.350
500 yards, if you're in this shootout type and you lose,
1548
01:18:27.649 --> 01:18:32.439
it's easier to swallow, I think, than just, wow, like
1549
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:36.800
getting destroyed by a winless team in your home opener.
1550
01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:38.180
Wow.
1551
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:45.239
Like, if I could describe the feeling, it's just shock.
1552
01:18:46.449 --> 01:18:48.609
Chad the Bear fan in the conversation here this afternoon,
1553
01:18:48.869 --> 01:18:51.239
this offensive line reminds me of the jay cutler years
1554
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:53.899
with the bears i feel sorry for love he has
1555
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:57.140
absolutely no time that's the thing you know i get
1556
01:18:57.180 --> 01:19:00.739
it he missed a couple throws there was one where
1557
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:03.819
he overthrew matthew golden by a mile i mean it
1558
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:05.539
looked like he was throwing to someone in row eight
1559
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:09.180
like he just where's that ball going And it's not
1560
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:12.300
that Matthew Golden was off his route. I mean, he
1561
01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:14.060
got into some free space, and all Love had to
1562
01:19:14.100 --> 01:19:16.619
do was put it in the basket. I mean, it
1563
01:19:16.659 --> 01:19:19.020
was like, he might as well have just thrown that
1564
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:22.000
ball away. He over-sailed it by a mile. It is
1565
01:19:22.020 --> 01:19:28.199
what it is. He did. But all for that, all
1566
01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:32.689
the missed throws that he had, still, I think he's
1567
01:19:32.729 --> 01:19:36.149
just not in a rhythm because of the offensive line.
1568
01:19:37.550 --> 01:19:40.390
And you feel like you're making excuses because it's like, well,
1569
01:19:40.430 --> 01:19:42.350
he's still got to make the throws. Yeah, but how
1570
01:19:42.390 --> 01:19:48.149
would you do if you get nailed on every play? Like,
1571
01:19:48.220 --> 01:19:50.699
his internal clock has to be so off right now
1572
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:56.079
that it's unhealthy. Like, he needs time away to allow
1573
01:19:56.119 --> 01:20:00.279
it to reset. Not just is he getting hit, but
1574
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:03.079
he's lost trust in his offensive line. You can see it.
1575
01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:06.869
He feels like he has to get the ball out immediately.
1576
01:20:07.489 --> 01:20:10.010
And Matt LaFleur is calling plays. Again, it's not terrible
1577
01:20:10.050 --> 01:20:14.149
play calling, but it's not good. But he's calling plays
1578
01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:17.619
that try to develop a little quicker so that Love
1579
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:18.899
can just get the ball out of his hands and
1580
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:20.979
not get hit. I'm telling you right now, and I
1581
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:23.220
hate to say this because, you know, you never want
1582
01:20:23.260 --> 01:20:26.720
to see injury in sports. It's a part of sports.
1583
01:20:27.460 --> 01:20:29.979
But Jordan Love, man, I mean, if the offensive line
1584
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:31.979
doesn't figure it out, he's going to be injured in
1585
01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:35.770
a hurry. I'm talking week five or six. And I
1586
01:20:35.810 --> 01:20:37.529
hate saying that. It's wrong of me to say that.
1587
01:20:37.569 --> 01:20:40.850
But if I'm just making a prediction, like... And it's
1588
01:20:40.890 --> 01:20:43.649
wrong of me to predict injury. I know. But the
1589
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.140
point I'm trying to make here is that he just
1590
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:51.439
gets hit immediately. So many times. I mean, if you
1591
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:53.119
look at some of the stats. Who just sent me
1592
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:57.760
this stat? Someone sent me a stat. Here, while I
1593
01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:00.300
was on the show. Someone sent me a stat. Let
1594
01:21:00.340 --> 01:21:03.220
me look back here. Mina Kimes on X. Okay, this
1595
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:06.060
is the stat. Our tracking... Whoever Mina Kimes is part of.
1596
01:21:06.060 --> 01:21:08.899
Is she still part of ESPN? I don't know. She says,
1597
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:12.779
our tracking has Green Bay's offensive line winning in pass
1598
01:21:12.819 --> 01:21:15.760
protection just 16% of dropbacks. Worst in the NFL by
1599
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.619
a mile. To put that in perspective, the average in
1600
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:22.180
the NFL is close to 50%. And she says not great, Bob.
1601
01:21:22.220 --> 01:21:22.739
Wait a minute.
1602
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:25.140
What? Not great, Bob.
1603
01:21:26.899 --> 01:21:27.260
Wow.
1604
01:21:28.659 --> 01:21:32.979
I didn't know that she said... I tell you, these Seinfeld...
1605
01:21:32.850 --> 01:21:36.069
Sayings are just a nationally known thing. Yes, Mina Kimes
1606
01:21:36.130 --> 01:21:38.630
is still at ESPN, part of NFL at ESPN. I
1607
01:21:38.670 --> 01:21:40.989
just didn't know. I don't watch ESPN a whole lot.
1608
01:21:41.010 --> 01:21:45.689
So that's why I was unsure. But she said, she
1609
01:21:45.710 --> 01:21:49.369
gave out a stat courtesy of ESPN stat tracking. Again,
1610
01:21:49.510 --> 01:21:53.210
Green Bay's offensive line winning in pass protection percentage is
1611
01:21:53.250 --> 01:22:01.840
just 16%. The average in the NFL is 50%. Like,
1612
01:22:01.899 --> 01:22:05.340
if you look at the stats, it's not just, oh,
1613
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:08.550
the offensive line isn't playing well right now. It's that
1614
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:17.090
the offensive line is playing historically bad. Historically bad. Like,
1615
01:22:17.210 --> 01:22:22.770
this may be... Like, conversations are developing that this may
1616
01:22:22.829 --> 01:22:27.500
be one of the worst offensive lines in football history.
1617
01:22:28.300 --> 01:22:32.380
That's not just me being dramatic. But, like, if you look,
1618
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:34.659
that's not the only stat. That's just an example of
1619
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:36.659
one stat that I've seen. If you look at a
1620
01:22:36.689 --> 01:22:45.149
stat of all the offensive line stats out there, it's
1621
01:22:45.229 --> 01:22:49.810
historically bad. Like, leagues do not put together, like, teams
1622
01:22:49.930 --> 01:22:51.489
in this league do not put together this bad of
1623
01:22:51.550 --> 01:22:56.680
an offensive line. And this is the product. Jerry Brown-Drey
1624
01:22:56.720 --> 01:23:00.989
said if he's not hurt by Week 5... Rashawn Gary
1625
01:23:01.069 --> 01:23:06.600
might change that. Okay. Jerry Brondre, the cowboy fan. Rashawn Gary,
1626
01:23:06.770 --> 01:23:07.810
you want to talk about something here?
1627
01:23:08.189 --> 01:23:09.180
Not great, Bob.
1628
01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:14.560
According to DKNF from Chaska, Seinfeld... Not great, Bob, is
1629
01:23:14.659 --> 01:23:17.539
Mad Men, my friend. Oh, I thought that was Seinfeld.
1630
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:19.840
I have never watched either show, so forgive me for
1631
01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:24.479
getting that wrong. What are you going to do? You
1632
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:25.220
know what, DK?
1633
01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:27.760
Let me ask you this, Tony. What the hell do
1634
01:23:27.779 --> 01:23:28.720
you know about Mad Men?
1635
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:29.659
Hmm?
1636
01:23:31.220 --> 01:23:35.659
Yeah, DK, take that, pal. All right, let's continue this
1637
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:37.399
conversation with Stiff of the Day. Can you take a
1638
01:23:37.420 --> 01:23:39.159
guess where I'm going with it? That's right.
1639
01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:44.279
There a thorn in your side. A pebble in your shoe.
1640
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You've had this pair of extra gloves this whole time?
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01:23:48.750 --> 01:23:50.529
Yeah, we're in the Rockies.
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01:23:50.949 --> 01:23:53.829
A grinder of your gears. You know what really grinds
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01:23:53.869 --> 01:23:56.489
my gears? People in the 19th century.
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01:23:57.069 --> 01:23:59.090
Why don't they get with the freaking programs?
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01:23:59.630 --> 01:24:02.489
Who's driving Tony G and Leo crazy today?
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You're going to do it!
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01:24:07.829 --> 01:24:08.090
No!
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01:24:08.729 --> 01:24:12.939
Strap in, score squad. It's time for Stiff of the Day.
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01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:14.039
All right, I'm going to do Stiff of the Day.
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01:24:14.060 --> 01:24:15.420
I've got a caller waiting, so we're going to go
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01:24:15.460 --> 01:24:18.840
Stiff of the Day, caller, Stiff of the Week. Here
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01:24:18.859 --> 01:24:22.140
we go. Today's Stiff of the Day. After the game,
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01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:25.090
Packer tight end Tucker Craft said this.
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01:24:27.430 --> 01:24:28.250
Oh, wrong one. Here we go.
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01:24:28.250 --> 01:24:29.270
It's not going to help us win.
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01:24:30.180 --> 01:24:33.359
Like, I don't know what people think that's going to
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01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:38.359
rally us or something like that. But, you know, we're growing, man.
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01:24:38.380 --> 01:24:40.979
We're mentally strong enough, capable enough to get back on
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01:24:41.020 --> 01:24:47.199
the field and play ball. But probably much easier with
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01:24:47.229 --> 01:24:49.729
the 70,000 people behind us rather than opposing us.
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01:24:50.050 --> 01:24:54.050
I am just so tired of players not being happy
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01:24:54.090 --> 01:24:56.829
with getting booed. Like, I understand that they're not happy
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01:24:56.850 --> 01:25:00.300
with it. I understand that if they... You know, they
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01:25:00.340 --> 01:25:04.300
want to win. Like, as long as it's not... Like,
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01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:06.779
you can't get physical with players. Don't take it too
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01:25:06.859 --> 01:25:09.539
far if you're chirping players. Like, don't talk about their
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01:25:09.579 --> 01:25:16.210
family or, you know, just... It gets inappropriate. Don't do that. But, like,
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01:25:16.270 --> 01:25:19.670
booing is perfectly acceptable, in my opinion. Like, if you
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01:25:19.729 --> 01:25:22.069
pay money, good hard-working money... Leo will talk about this
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01:25:22.109 --> 01:25:23.689
more on Monday, because we talked on the phone prior
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01:25:23.710 --> 01:25:26.350
to the show. Leo will talk about this more on Monday...
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01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:28.460
You pay good, hard-working money to go watch a team
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01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:31.420
and they perform like that? You have every right to boo.
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01:25:32.380 --> 01:25:35.739
And I tell you what, if the players don't like it,
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01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:41.289
play better. You ever seen a team boo, a home
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01:25:41.329 --> 01:25:46.369
crowd boo their team when they're winning? I haven't. So,
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01:25:46.829 --> 01:25:48.869
Tucker Craft, as much as I love him, as much
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01:25:48.890 --> 01:25:51.250
as I think he's destined to be a really good
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01:25:51.289 --> 01:25:54.500
tight end in football, and he already is, didn't play
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01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:56.029
well last night, but Going to be one of the
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01:25:56.060 --> 01:25:58.699
best tight ends in football. Stiff of the day. We'll
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01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:01.060
get to stiff of the week in a moment. But first,
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01:26:01.140 --> 01:26:03.119
a caller on the Cease Electronic Talk and Text line. Hi,
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01:26:03.140 --> 01:26:06.199
who's this? Hi, Tony.
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01:26:06.329 --> 01:26:09.050
This is Charlie from Oshkosh. Thanks for taking my call.
1686
01:26:09.170 --> 01:26:10.729
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for calling in.
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01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:13.300
Uh, you're welcome.
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01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.079
I'll, I'll make it kind of quick. Uh, but you
1689
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:18.279
gotta be careful with Tucker craft. I mean, when he,
1690
01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:21.369
but he said there, because you can have cheering, you
1691
01:26:21.390 --> 01:26:24.449
can have booing. And the next step is apathy where
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01:26:24.489 --> 01:26:25.470
they don't even show up.
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01:26:25.949 --> 01:26:27.710
So yes, be careful.
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01:26:28.630 --> 01:26:31.649
And, um, what was your reaction quick with that? When
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01:26:31.670 --> 01:26:33.630
they went for the two point conversion, I mean, it's
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01:26:33.729 --> 01:26:35.810
pouring salt in the wound. I mean, you don't want
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01:26:35.829 --> 01:26:38.369
them to get two points, stop them. Obviously I'm one
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01:26:38.409 --> 01:26:41.010
of those guys, but, uh, Um, they were, it was
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01:26:41.050 --> 01:26:43.159
halfway through the fourth quarter. I think that I made
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01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.760
it a 21 point lead and there was absolutely no
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01:26:45.859 --> 01:26:48.659
way the Packers are coming back. So is that a,
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01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.270
is that a disrespect to the Packers and the floor
1703
01:26:52.289 --> 01:26:55.229
or a slap to the floor or what was that
1704
01:26:55.270 --> 01:26:58.050
all about? Even the announcers were surprised.
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01:26:58.449 --> 01:26:58.649
Yeah.
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01:26:58.710 --> 01:27:00.689
You know, that's a great question. I know PJ and
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01:27:00.729 --> 01:27:03.189
Nick talked about it a bit, like maybe Kevin Stefanski
1708
01:27:03.210 --> 01:27:05.319
was trying to stick it to Matt LaFleur. I don't
1709
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:07.199
know about that. I don't know if there's history between
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01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:10.479
Stefanski and LaFleur, but it is definitely something that catches
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01:27:10.500 --> 01:27:12.800
your eye, right? Like, I don't know why that is.
1712
01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:15.550
Well, it caught my eye. Even the announcers, like, do
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01:27:15.569 --> 01:27:18.310
they have their two-point conversion? You know, like, I mean...
1714
01:27:18.659 --> 01:27:22.609
And then just real quick, it was kind of sad.
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01:27:22.710 --> 01:27:25.770
It's like when I had the interception, that guy who
1716
01:27:25.789 --> 01:27:27.989
caught the interception at the end, he could have literally
1717
01:27:28.170 --> 01:27:32.810
walked 100 yards. But then he fell down because, you know,
1718
01:27:32.829 --> 01:27:35.210
that's the point we're at. They felt sorry for us,
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01:27:35.260 --> 01:27:36.180
so they fell down.
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01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:38.119
Yes. I mean, on purpose.
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01:27:38.220 --> 01:27:38.840
Yep.
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01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:40.979
That kind of hurts when they don't even play it out.
1723
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.840
And I'll let you go, Tony, but remember, we don't
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01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:46.319
even have our number one draft pick.
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01:27:46.810 --> 01:27:47.090
I know.
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01:27:47.149 --> 01:27:49.130
And where we end up, the Cowboys get that.
1727
01:27:49.149 --> 01:27:50.670
Besides, so, wow.
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01:27:51.250 --> 01:27:51.510
Yikes.
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01:27:51.770 --> 01:27:52.369
Well, you know, Charlie.
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01:27:52.390 --> 01:27:52.930
Thanks, Tony.
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01:27:52.949 --> 01:27:53.390
Take care.
1732
01:27:53.649 --> 01:27:56.770
Yeah, you got it. If Brian Gutekunst makes that draft pick,
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01:27:56.789 --> 01:27:58.689
it's not like he's going to hit on it anyways. So,
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01:27:58.869 --> 01:27:59.250
I mean.
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01:27:59.329 --> 01:28:02.149
Yeah, yeah. Good point. Good point.
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01:28:02.649 --> 01:28:03.340
Thanks, Tony.
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01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:06.340
You got it. Thanks, Charlie. We'll talk again sometime soon.
1738
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:10.319
Have a great weekend. Yeah, all great points. I don't know.
1739
01:28:10.340 --> 01:28:12.539
You know, PJ and Nick talked about that two-point conversion
1740
01:28:12.579 --> 01:28:15.840
a bit. Like, what are they? doing I don't I
1741
01:28:15.859 --> 01:28:19.560
don't exactly know the reason but uh hmm maybe Stefanski
1742
01:28:19.579 --> 01:28:21.619
tried to stick it to the floor who knows let's
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01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:22.420
get this tip of the week.
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01:28:25.140 --> 01:28:29.170
In a world of winners some people just choose to
1745
01:28:29.229 --> 01:28:31.489
be a total drag.
1746
01:28:31.189 --> 01:28:34.729
Oh brother this guy sticks.
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01:28:34.649 --> 01:28:39.050
From the linebacker who can't tackle oh what a loser
1748
01:28:39.390 --> 01:28:42.220
to the guy doing 40 in the fast lane i
1749
01:28:44.220 --> 01:28:45.420
guess i was going about.
1750
01:28:45.220 --> 01:28:49.739
65 tops seven seven miles an hour.
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01:28:51.010 --> 01:28:57.590
It's time to open the record books for stiff of
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01:28:57.630 --> 01:28:58.390
the week.
1753
01:29:02.369 --> 01:29:06.119
Even though the Packers lost, you know, we went Packers
1754
01:29:06.180 --> 01:29:08.800
on back-to-back days with Stiff of the Day, Aaron Banks yesterday,
1755
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:11.560
Tucker Kraft today. You know, you're not going to give
1756
01:29:11.579 --> 01:29:14.260
it to the Brewers offense. They just won 100 games. Fox,
1757
01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:19.600
you know, mess-ups happen sometimes. We're going with Monday's Stiff
1758
01:29:19.619 --> 01:29:21.789
of the Day for Stiff of the Week. Caleb Williams
1759
01:29:21.829 --> 01:29:27.560
for overplaying his hamstring injury. Listen, pal, you overplay it,
1760
01:29:27.750 --> 01:29:31.970
you're going to get chirped. I can't help you. Caleb Williams,
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01:29:31.989 --> 01:29:34.229
Stiff of the Week. One more text from Brian in Greenville.
1762
01:29:35.050 --> 01:29:37.590
I'm genuinely scared for Jordan Love the night before Thanksgiving
1763
01:29:37.630 --> 01:29:42.729
against the Rams November 25th. Yeah, 100%. 100%, man. I'm
1764
01:29:42.750 --> 01:29:45.750
scared for Jordan Love in general. Man, this is one
1765
01:29:45.770 --> 01:29:47.670
of those shows, Score Squad, where you're just like, there
1766
01:29:47.689 --> 01:29:50.550
could be really more time. But you just run out
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01:29:50.590 --> 01:29:53.090
of time. 2 o'clock already. Have a great weekend. Leo
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01:29:53.109 --> 01:29:54.890
and I will be back on Monday. We'll talk a
1769
01:29:54.890 --> 01:29:57.340
bit more about the Packers then and talking crew with
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01:29:57.380 --> 01:30:01.489
Matt Carroll also. Special thanks to today's guests, Jack Stern
1771
01:30:01.750 --> 01:30:03.989
for talking crew and Lydia Singleton from the Salvation Army
1772
01:30:04.029 --> 01:30:07.050
Golf Outing. Bill Scott also joins the show on Monday.
1773
01:30:07.109 --> 01:30:08.989
It'll be fun to talk with him then. What the
1774
01:30:09.010 --> 01:30:10.880
hell do I know about play calling? We'll ask him.
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01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:13.680
Have a great weekend, score squads. Stu Gatz and company
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01:30:13.699 --> 01:30:15.739
coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. 95-3, 99-1 the score.