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What is it actually like to qualify for and compete in the U.S. Mid-Am?
Trey Sanders joins the Chasing Daylight Podcast after earning his way into the USGA championship with a bogey-free 66 in qualifying. Trey takes us inside the entire experience—from arriving at Sand Valley and seeing his name on the USGA range for the first time to competing on championship setups at Sand Valley and The Lido.
We get into the speed and firmness of the golf courses, the mental and physical grind of tournament golf, first-tee nerves, what separates elite amateur players, and why Trey believes more golfers should test their games in competition.
The conversation also turns to one of amateur golf’s biggest debates: former professionals being reinstated as amateurs. Trey, a reinstated amateur himself, explains where he thinks the current system works—and where there may need to be a line.
Plus, we talk Mammoth Dunes, Erin Hills, Sand Valley vs. Bandon Dunes, South Shore at Lake Las Vegas, our NASCAR pit experience, and the latest updates to the Chasing Daylight Podcast Community.
Episode 401 of The Chasing Daylight Podcast.
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I think I was on that one.
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What is up, everybody?
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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.
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We are on the other side of 400.
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We're at 401.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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We really appreciate it.
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We've got a lot to talk about tonight.
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Uh, I hope you guys are interested in what Trey's gonna have to say.
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Trey Sanders is joining us.
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Welcome to the show, Trey.
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What's up?
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Look up, he's on his phone, he don't even care.
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He's like, whatever.
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Yeah, I content man.
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He's a content creator.
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So many, he made so many connections at the middle.
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He's doing some editing.
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Yeah.
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So Trey uh was at the US Mid M uh last week, and uh he's here to talk about that experience because it is it is a very unique experience.
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Uh, I'm very glad he got to participate in it.
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I was fortunate enough to play in it as a caddy, so not really playing it, participate in it is the word, as a caddy out at Sanquity Head, and that was absolutely amazing.
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So I've been encouraging Trey, Dan, Jeremy, everybody that I know that can compete to try and get there.
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Trey did it this year, and uh, so we'll be talking about that.
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Uh yeah, big big kudos.
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I mean, that's that's how you that's how you talk shit about your game.
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You go to a USG qualifier and get to the event.
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So also bring back kudos.
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Remember those granola chocolate bars back in the day?
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Oh, yeah, those things bring back kudos, those hit right now.
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Those things they always shit on neutral grain bars.
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They had Snickers flavor, MM flavor, fire.
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Shout out, kudos, bring them back.
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Kudos, where you at?
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Where are you at?
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Uh, if you're in the chat this evening, thank you so much for being here.
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We're live on YouTube.
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We do this every Tuesday night, Tuesday night hangout.
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Um, we have some other things we're gonna be talking about as well.
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Jeremy and myself, we got to play South Shore over the weekend, which was an absolute treat.
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That golf course is outstanding right now.
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Sorry, look great, it looked great.
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I had this sent to me.
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This is the uh LM1 launch monitor.
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I'm almost done with the article that I'm gonna be putting out on that, so we can talk about that.
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We can talk about South Shore if you want, and uh what whatever else comes our way this evening.
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So thank you everybody for being here.
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We do have a giveaway going this week.
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Have no idea what we're gonna give away.
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Uh so um, Joe, if you got something, you've been you've been gone.
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Welcome back, Joe.
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Welcome back.
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Yeah, I wasn't here last week.
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Yeah, he said 400 episodes celebration.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'll go to Maryland.
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Screw those.
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I'll go to Maryland instead.
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How was that?
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Maryland, it was cool.
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I mean, we were there super fast, quick, quick.
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Hey, Ron, the the Ron Simmons in the house.
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Shout out the Ron, the homie, Simron.
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Um we were it was super quick.
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We we didn't we didn't get to do all that much.
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I I went to second swing and stopped by thrift shop.
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I was trying to meet Coach uh meet up with Coach Porch, didn't work.
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I was gonna go down to Thrifty uh golf DMV's new shop because he didn't have a shop when I was there, but uh just a little too far.
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It was like 30 minutes, but it was it was cool.
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I mean, uh we went to the Renaissance fair and it was raining and it was muddy.
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Yeah, we didn't know you were a Renaissance fair guy.
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We didn't know you had uh storage of gangmail in the closet.
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Question Do you think I am or am I not?
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Oh, we're but now that we know you are, I mean I am not.
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What are you talking about?
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I'm gonna do that.
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You went to say that you went, you wore camp.
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We saw it show of hands.
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We've been to a renaissance fair in the last two weeks.
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It was uh, you know, I will say, I will, I will say, uh, not my first choice of things to do, but it was it was uh if you've been to the Renaissance fair in Las Vegas, it does not compare.
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It was in the forest, the woods, oh wait, wait, wait, structures.
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None of us have been to the Renaissance fair in Vegas.
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I didn't know there was one.
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My mom, my mom took me when I was probably like eight years old, and it was at Sunset Park.
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I don't know.
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I think we're finding a really hidden secret about Joe.
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Secret means a lot of all these trips to visit family.
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Maybe he's a Renaissance traveler.
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Lord Keys, call him Lord Keys.
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Lord, Lord Greens, Lord Greens of the Highlands, Lord Keys of the High Greens.
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It was cool.
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When they make role when they make role models too, you'll be in it.
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There you go.
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No, that that was what I was thinking when we were there.
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I was like, I feel like I'm in role models, the movie.
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And Paul Rudd is one of my favorites.
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Uh, probably man crush Paul Rudd, one of the funniest dudes ever.
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But uh, yeah, there was people like they had pens and they were all dressed up and they were like sword fighting with pens, and it was it was just it was interesting, and then stake on a stick, steak on a stake, and all the everything on a stick, but uh it definitely did feel more uh real in the forest than it does at Sunset Park in Las Vegas.
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Uh it would have been better if it didn't rain and there was no mud, but uh went for the fam and you know the the experience, so not not my thing.
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I think Joe was like, let's go to the Renaissance fair while we're there.
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Guys got any feather family featheries, any featheries?
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You got any feathery balls?
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Oh you got a nibblix out here.
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Too funny.
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Well, welcome back.
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You were missed last week.
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I don't know if you listened, but uh you definitely bring it like a fourth or so.
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You definitely bring a vibe to the show, so we're glad that you are back.
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Thank you, dad.
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Appreciate it.
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The keys wheeze was missed.
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Yep, that's it.
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Oh, I got all these questions.
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I didn't know we were going into a uh a guard a uh Renaissance show.
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They got all these questions about Renaissance.
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Come on, Joe, you're just step up, answer.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, I'm sorry, I was I was talking.
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Hey, shout out to everybody in the chat.
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Appreciate you guys being here.
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Yeah, Randy, Chris Acosta, Palmeadows in the house, T Lou, uh Kyle Shane, uh Teresa Teresa's in the house, Country Boy Casey.
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Appreciate you guys being here.
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What question do I have?
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Oh no, there's this one here.
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Do they have cool beer steins?
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There you go.
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Uh, dude, they yeah, there was people drinking out of sheephorns, drilled out sheephorns, and bit steins, and uh, you know, all of it.
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Wow.
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Frank Frankfurt Frankverters on a stick, and you know, uh I I went with the Thai, I went with the uh deep fried Thai green curry uh green beans.
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Definitely not Renaissance Fair.
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So uh got those.
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Sound good as hell.
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Damn, that was my choice.
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The turkey leg line was very long.
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Katie wanted one, she did not want to wait in the line.
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Uh, you know, it like I'm telling you, it was muddy.
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And I I brought out uh my safari uh Nikes that I rarely ever wear, and I was they're they're just mudded over, they're just so much mud.
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Not good.
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Um, but it was cool, it was cool.
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It would have been better if it wasn't slippery and muddy for sure.
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Something else that happened.
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Uh, shout out Garson.
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Jeremy and I were out at the Speedway on Saturday.
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Um, Garrett Smithly is the driver that Garson has part of the team sponsor with, and so the folks between his racing team and Garson got us some pit passes.
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Uh, Jeremy, myself, and his son, we all went out there.
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And uh, I had been out there for a race before in the pits.
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Um, not quite this exclusive access that we had.
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Um, and yeah, it was a lot of fun.
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So, but this was this was Jeremy's first time being out there, his first time being on a track when you know there's 40 NAS cars driving around the track.
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So, I'm I'm curious, you know, if you could sum up the experience, you know, you can take as much time as you want.
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What what did you think?
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Loud, loud.
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No, dude, it was.
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I mean, I went to F1.
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This was definitely louder.
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It's crazy because they're all yeah, especially when they start out, it's just like this it's non-s it's American, it's American, it is American muscle, it's pretty American.
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Yeah, um, it was crazy.
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I mean, being that close to the cars.
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Um, me and my son are car people, so any chance we get to do something like this, we take it.
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But uh, you know, it's just cool being that close and like smelling the gas, like you're just smelling gas all day, and your ears are just ringing for the for a couple days after.
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It's just the best.
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But yeah, I definitely want to go to more NASCAR for sure.
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Days of Thunder.
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Days of Thunder.
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Being in the pits, uh being able to go almost in the garage.
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Uh, Garrett was kind enough to give us a tour of the hauler, which was really cool seeing inside there.
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The hauler and the squalor.
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Yeah, and uh look at him, more benissants fair.
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Um but the his team had a barbecue, they had ribs and chicken, and I had a piece of cornbread because Jeremy's like, dude, you gotta try the cornbread, and it was absolutely delicious.
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Can't pass on cornbread ever.
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Cornbread is fucking staple.
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It's a staple, it was fruitful.
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Yeah, it was free.
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And we met the the team sponsor Zonies.
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Zonies is is was their sponsor for this event, and they had the car all done up, and they're uh based out of Arizona, zonies.
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That's uh a a slang term for an Arizonan that's traveling to California, we found out.
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And um they have a energy drink that is um non-carbureted and full of all carbureted, no carburetor, carbureted, carbureted drink.
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It's non-carburated, it's stainless steel.
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It's non-carburated, uh, no carbonation.
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Um, it's a lot of natural juices and some other things in there, and so we were we were drinking those.
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Yeah, um non-carbureted with natural juices.
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I love it.
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Non-carburated, yeah.
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Uh he loves that NASCAR.
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And it was pretty good.
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I mean, they they have two flavors.
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One's passion fruit that's got some caffeine in it, and there's one dark cherry that's no caffeine.
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Um carburation, exactly.
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You gotta have it.
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Uh, but it was it was pretty good and they were awesome.
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Uh, I've got their contact information.
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We're gonna hopefully in the future collab on something with them, um, being so close, and they're eager to get in the golf space, as you can say, because I mean it was a it was a refreshing drink, and uh we I mean we really liked them.
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So if you haven't checked out zonies, uh you can order them directly online.
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There's discounts all over the place.
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We'll we'll get one.
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So I I mean I I wish I could have gone, you know, with the with the kids, but I will say NASCAR, the only NASCAR thing I've ever been to, I don't think I've ever been to this Las Vegas Speedway, but I've been to the Daytona 500.
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And I will tell you, like it is it is loud.
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Did you go up to the gate?
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Did you go up to like the the gate?
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The whatever we were on the end.
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We were literally a concrete wall away from the pits, like where they were stopping.
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Yeah, I saw you guys, but did you guys didn't go into the bleachers?
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I saw you guys, but we did go down.
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We did for a little bit, but we didn't go down to the bottom.
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Yeah, go up to that, go up to that uh steel wall or whatever they got with the cables, and it's just like blows your face.
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Super cool and yeah, underrated.
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And Daytona let us you could bring in like a like a cooler size of like 10 inches by eight or whatever it was, and you could bring a full 12-pack of beer in.
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Like it bring your own beer situation.
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Daytona 500 was fun.
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Yeah, I went there when I was living in Orlando, and my buddy super like straight from Daytona and just like straight up, you know, white dude from the south, and he's like, Well, yeah, bro, I mean 500.
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It's fun that anybody bring anything in there because nobody's gonna fuck around with a bunch of rednecks with a bunch of bugs.
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It was, I mean, it was super cool.
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That it's one of the things I like to say.
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Like, I've been in the Daytona 500.
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This is cool.
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Yeah, Jeremy said they did the prayer before they sing the national anthem, and Jeremy's like, you know, it's actually kind of nice hearing somebody say a prayer and not people losing their mind about it.
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Yeah, there's a lot of God around here right now, there's a lot of praise Jesus going on.
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But uh, I I want to say thank you to Garrett uh for having us out.
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Uh, it was great meeting him.
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It's crazy.
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You'd walk by him in the mall, you would have no idea that he's a NASCAR driver.
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He is he is super down to earth.
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Um, we're gonna try and get him on the show next week.
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Um, he's in love with the game of golf, and it's it was insane.
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I told Jeremy, I go, dude, it's crazy because he's he's not a big he's little like me, he's not a big guy.
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And I told Jeremy, I said, Man, we're sitting in the grandstands, and he, you know, they drive by, and I'm like, it's wild that like a half hour ago we were standing next to him, you know, and now he's doing 200 miles an hour around the track.
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It's it was it was pretty cool.
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Great experience.
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So hey Tulu signed up.
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Thanks, T Lou.
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Appreciate it.
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Oh yeah.
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The law.
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He did he just got a promotion in the military.
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So shout out T Lou on his promotion that he did.
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The law.
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That's probably why he finally signed up, you know.
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Got that extra box coming.
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Shout out the law.
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Turn left.
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We've covered Renaissance fairs.
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We found out that Joe is uh, you know, a LARP.
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He's a Renaissance guy.
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We did we didn't know that huge nerd, huge nerd.
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We've got NASCAR covered.
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You know, these are all the things that everybody was tuning in to find out.
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So I'm I'm glad we're getting these out the way, you know.
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Um, so let's let's knock out South Shore and then we'll get to Trey, and then if we have time left over, I can preview this if we want.
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So uh South South Shore, if everybody's not aware of where South Shore is, it's out at Lake Las Vegas, it's on the opposite side of the lake to Reflection Bay.
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Uh, a lot of people have probably played Reflection Bay because it's a public course, which by the way, found out it is for sale.
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And Reflections for sale?
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Reflection is for sale, yeah.
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What's the price tag?
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Let's pull our money together, guys.
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I don't remember seeing the price tag, but um I'll let's pull it up.
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Let's all just uh yeah, let's all get core figure cash out refinance.
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Cash out refinance.
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Core Crenshaw could probably make that thing fucking sick.
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Well, Jack did a pretty good job, they just screwed it up and flipped it when they shouldn't have.
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Oh yeah.
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And they got rid of the core crenshaw bunkers out there, though.
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You know, I if if I was like wealthy, like wealthy, wealthy, and had money to drop on a golf course, I think I would pass on that one just because they don't have the range.
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Dude, did you see that uh do you see that uh Falcon Ridge has a range now?
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Yeah, they just opened it up.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They they were struggling for a while to get the permits to get the fence high enough, but they finally got it, so now it's open.
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Is it just along that main road down along 18?
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Oh, it's it's massive, massive.
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It's got lights, got a parking lot, you don't have to go to the clubhouse anymore.
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It's it's nice.
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So all right.
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Sounds like we got a very interesting from the uh Simron.
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So I'm gonna come back to that.
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Yeah, I'm gonna tag that one, uh Ron, because that's interesting.
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And a classic one.
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South Shore.
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South Shore.
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Uh so we were out there for a fitting event.
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Uh Jeremy came up and uh joined me because Julian's still injured.
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And we went out and played.
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It is a spectacular golf course.
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And it's the views are incredible, the layout is fantastic.
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It the back nine is so much fun, and the course was in outstanding shape.
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I mean, top to bottom, outstanding shape.
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Yeah, it's it's only gonna get better as the cooler weather comes.
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They just got out of overseas, they got a member member coming up, said they're gonna make it just primo for that.
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And shout out to Tim and Steve and the crew out there, they are doing fantastic things.
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If you get an opportunity to go play South Shore, I highly encourage you to do so.
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Definitely, it's a it's a fun track.
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Yeah, it's such a fun.
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There's a lot of really good holes out there, and I will say, like 16 and 17, I'm not a big fan of personally.
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Gim a little gimmicky.
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Yeah, the views are fantastic.
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Like, don't get me wrong.
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I will say, as far as views are concerned, it's up there with Dragon Ridge and uh maybe Red Rock a little bit too.
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But um, yeah, I mean it's and it's actually like on that terrain to have like a full driving range, chipping green, putting green, like especially when you know the water authority is like cracking down on a lot of shit like that.
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It's fantastic that they actually have that because I mean, let's be real, like you're not obviously you join a club for the course, but it's nice to have a driving range, you know.
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And I from what I've been told about uh whatever's gonna be in place of of uh Bears Best, they're getting they're making that driving range like a three-hole golf course or a three-hole golf.
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It's a yeah, it's a pitch and putt for the members, yeah.
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Which I like that though.
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I I mean it's cool, but I think courses should do that, make it a driving range during the day, and then at night it's a pitch and putting.
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That's not what they're doing though.
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I know, but that would be cool.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
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Well, that's but I would imagine Southern Dunes does, yeah.
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I imagine I would imagine that um, you know, they're you know, that kind of thing is gonna be set up for the high rollers and the oh, yeah, the the celebrities that come in town, and you know money, you know, it'd be sweet to have a cool money game at something like that, but yeah, you know, for 400 grand or whatever it is, it's a little bit more than any of us want to pay, that's for sure.
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Yeah, just curious to see what happens at that place.
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But I mean, South Shore is uh what they did.
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I mean, it's solid.
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I'm not like I love that downhill par five.
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That par five oh that downhill par five is it's so good.
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It's like it's it's one of the best holes in town, that's for sure.
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It's yeah, I love that absolutely fantastic.
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So good.
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Jeremy Jeremy won the match, one up.
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I had a I had a putt to tie on 18, and my putter was on fire.
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I had a killer putt on which one are you using right now?
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I'm using the white Damascus.
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That thing is working, and he should not change.
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He's won't hold my breath next time we play.
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Make sure you bring a different putter.
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No, I I am very happy with that one.
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Very happy.
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You're playing well because I played pretty good.
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I mean, I played pretty well from and you're just it's hard to beat you.
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Well, I was getting seven strokes.
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I mean you were getting seven strokes.
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That's why.
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Still, I mean you it's it's an equalizer, though.
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It's you're just Jeremy had to wedge into every hole, so that's true.
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We were playing the same D, so uh yeah, so we we we've been doing these matches and uh we're at tie two two, and so we got uh you know the next one to break the tie.
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It's fun, it's fun, it's a fun little it's good to have something on it.
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Oh, yeah, fun enough.
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That's what we're all about, you know?
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It's the fun police.
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All right, Trey.
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All right.
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I have questions.
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I have a lot of questions for you.
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So I no, I I I've I I have some things on my mind regarding my experience, which was as far as tournament play is concerned, the best experience I've ever had in a golf tournament in my life.
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But then I also have I've had this conversation four or five times since I left the tournament about reinstated AMS.
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And so I would like I am going to Yeah, yeah.
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I'm gonna go.
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I have my two cents about that, and I will definitely this will probably be hopefully the last time I talk about it, which I doubt it.
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Plenty of topics.
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Let's let's start from the beginning.
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Let's talk about you qualifying, which we mentioned on the you won the Las Vegas qualifier.
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I got second, so the last the qualifier was in Boulder City, just southeast of uh of the strip, and they taken three spots out of 78.
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And I got the second one shooting a bogey free 66, and then uh Matt Mitchell, he was the medalist, shot uh uh bogey free 64 with a nice 29 on the front.
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Um punched your ticket, you punched your ticket, and I punched my ticket, and like the crazy thing is, is it didn't really set in until like I walked on the driving range the first day I got yeah, and you saw your name, yeah.
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Dude, seeing my name on the USGA thing, like I'll never get tired of that.
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It's cool, right?
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That was just that was cool, and so I get I I drive on property, and the registration on the first day started at noon, and I just I wanted to be there, I got there at like 12:30.
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And the funny thing is, is they make you sign like a a USGA poster type thing that has all the competitors' signature on it.
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And I fucked my signature up.
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I signed the first one and I it was just like a little tiny box.
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Trace.
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Did you write trace?
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It was a it was a no, I did not.
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It was a tiny little box, and I just like scribbled a T and an S.
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Uh I didn't keep that one, but I kept the uh Chris.
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I kept the uh caddy biblical.
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That's my next question.
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Yeah, um and seeing your name on a caddy bib, awesome.
00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:14.960
Yeah, and so I get there and dude, like Pro V1s or Pro V1X is on the range.
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Yeah, I saw that brand new grass, and it was it was fescue, so like it was almost like Bermuda mixed with it's like a Bermuda mixed with bent, you know, like you're hitting off weeds essentially, and uh it was, I mean, it was spectacular.
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What the cool thing is, is outside of the driving range, they had the practice facility, they had yep, they had the chipping green.
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So it wasn't one chipping green.
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What they did this, I think the sandbox is their 12-hole par three course or like 17 hole.
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I don't know how many holes 13, 13, I think, or 12.
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No, so they so this, yep, there it is.
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So super cool, they took four of those greens from the par three course and turned it into the short game facility.
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And how nice every you could hit you could hit every shot inside of 70 yards on all four greens.
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I mean, you think of the shot that you want to hit inside of 70 yards, you can hit it there.
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And the cray and the they had like seven volunteers out there just shagging balls and raking bunkers while you were practicing.
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And I mean, it was but I tell you, like, the course conditions, and I I texted Matt this on Sunday after I played Paiu, like, boys, there ain't nothing in town that is like the conditions that I played at San Valley, and there was like I knew it was I knew it was different because San Valley, the first hole, it's like a downhill par four, kind of fears off to the left a little bit, and like the putting green is on top of a hill, 10 is down to the right, one is down to the left, but they moved the T-box on the first hole onto the putting green, so they grew out like a six foot by six foot section, about a quarter inch high of grass, and that was the T-box for the whole tournament.
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And I mean, obviously, they only played Sound Valley on Saturday and Sunday, the Lido was the rest of the time, and man, I dude, I I haven't I've played a I've been fortunate enough to play a lot of places, and I could probably count on one hand how many times that normal conditions were like what I played because greens were 13, 13 and a half, downhillers even faster.
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And the Leto, the Leto was about a 12 and a half, 12, 12 and a half.
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It was slower than San Valley.
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But after the first day at San Valley, because I played San Valley on the first practice round, my caddy, who was uh a resort caddy there part-time during the season, he's like, dude, I I talked to the other caddies, he goes, uh, we've never seen the golf course this hard, this fast, this firm.
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And you know, because it's normally firm year-round, but not like this, man.
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It was I'd never played conditions like this, but at the same time, like I loved every single minute of it because especially when the tournament started, and this is what a lot of like newer casual golfers don't understand is in a tournament, especially at one like this one.
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If you take just the slightest mental break while you're playing your round, it's over.
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Yeah, like pars turn into doubles and triples, you miss the grain by six inches in one direction.
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You're you got a 40-yard chip uphill, and like it that's the one thing about tournament golf that I don't think a lot of people realize is when you're playing in something sanctioned where they got rules officials and all of this, like you have to like mentally you have to be on your shit.
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:13.920
Like, it's it's no joke.
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:22.720
It's a fucking I mean, and I remember so the 17th hole, the 17th hole is a long par three.
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It played 258 yards on on game day.
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Wow, however, the front there, it was like it was a punch bowl, and and uh about 10 20 yards short of the green were two mounds that looked like titties, and you had to pretty much hit it between the we pretty much had to hit it right between the tits.
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Because because the crazy thing is, is while it was 258 yards, the actual playing number was probably 210.
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So I I hit five iron on game day, and once I hit my five iron, I like I picked my tee up and and let the other two guys hit.
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I saw my ball on the back of the green, and I had about 55 feet for birdie.
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And uh, like it, but I tell you, I don't think anybody had one, but it was very easy if you hit it on the right place and had the right angle and all that.
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:23.519
It was in the middle of the punch bowl.
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:40.079
Someone could have got a hole in one, but um, but I would say the two the two hole the two holes on Sand Valley that I knew were just like were in like this is the show on the front nine.
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:49.839
I think it was hole five, four or five, six hundred and ten yard par five uphill into the wind, both days.
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:56.000
Damn practice round, pack practice round and legit round, and it was trails 15.
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Yeah, it was it was turtle back, it was a turtle back green with a little bit of raised ridge on the back where the bunker was.
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.599
Shout out Donnie Ross, yeah.
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:21.680
The pin was all the way back, and on game day, I hit driver, I hit a laid up with five iron, and I had 150 yards in, hit seven iron because I played a hundred and fifty yard shot into the wind uphill.
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I played at 185, and I had eight feet for birdie, and I downhill, downwind, down grain.
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I just I just dude, I just hit like just like that.
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Tappy boy, and I and I still had four feet past the hole.
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That's crazy.
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I mean, it was it was go ahead.
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One thing that kind of blew me away, and I'm curious if if you saw this as well.
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:53.599
I know you're you're a much more elite golfer than I am, so you're you've been around golfers that uh you know, way more elite than Matt.
00:30:53.680 --> 00:31:03.599
Yeah, FY that that play that, but I was I was blown away with how good all of the players were that nobody had heard of.
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:10.000
You know, I mean these were people from all across the country that I mean yeah, there wasn't one player that shouldn't have been there.
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:19.279
Everybody, I mean I was also seeing everybody like I'm an insurance salesman, I'm uh I work for my dad's company and like super cool, right?
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:23.759
I I mean I met this dude probably 10 years older than me.
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:32.319
He was I was having a drink with him at the bar, and him and his brother owned hearing aid distribution warehouses in Kentucky.
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:33.920
Wow, right?
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.480
They had they had 16 employees, four warehouses.
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.799
He drove up from Kentucky, and uh, so he was a nice dude.
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.680
I also met uh met a bunch of really cool dudes.
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:56.319
I met this uh crazy thing is is standing next to this guy in the range, Indian guy, lives in Dubai half the year, qualified in New York.
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:06.000
Um and he and and I when he knew when in conversation when he found out because I I put down Jacksonville, Florida as my hometown.
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:24.319
And when he found out I was from Jacksonville, he went to Jacksonville University in Jacksonville, and so we knew a couple of the same people, but he actually qualified because he was he said he was number four or number eight ranked amateur in the world.
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.920
Jeez, so got in that way.
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:44.640
Um but the crazy thing is, is the first practice round, obviously, most of the most of you guys and most of the Vegas golfers that golf with us in some form or fashion know that me and Julian we hit the ball far.
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:45.680
Cool.
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:52.000
Well, the tenth hole is a par five, five sixty-five.
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:58.480
And on the practice round, I teed off on the first hole, so it was my tenth hole.
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.359
Dude, I'm playing with, he's 6'8, like 250.
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:03.279
It's built like a Braun James.
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.480
This dude hit driver, I think gap wedge.
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He hit his driver like 405 yards.
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And I looked at his driver, he had uh an 8x TR Ventus, tipped an inch, 45, you know, 45, 45 and a half in length.
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I mean, this thing was rebarb, and but dude was tall as shit.
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:36.319
I and I when I I knew that he was different on the ninth hole because the ninth hole is a if you want drivable par four, 295 yards.
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:47.440
This dude flagged a two-iron, carried it all the way, flagged the two iron, flagged a two iron from 295, had like 15 feet, had 15 feet for eagle.
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.240
And this dude, like it doesn't take much, yeah.
00:33:50.319 --> 00:34:03.119
It takes a good amount to be for me to be impressed, and for somebody that's not a long drive competitor to do what I saw him do with a driver and two iron, I'm like, dude, like that that's another game right there.
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.720
But uh no, San Valley was amazing.
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:13.920
Like even the 18th hole, another five 600 yard par five up in the up in the uphill into the wind.
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:21.920
I had like 290 in, and on game day, I ended up three putting for Eagle because it was it was a weird green.
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.280
It was a three putting green L-shaped, yeah.
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.760
So it was an L-shaped green.
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.199
Well, I had I was putting for Eagle and I three putting.
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.679
I just driving greens on six tens.
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:46.800
Driving six tens the green was shaped like an upside down L.
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:55.039
And there was a like you know, imagine like an L, and there's like a bunker like on the right side of the green.
00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:00.880
So I had to putt up the side of this hill where the bunker was, and then my putt came back down.
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:10.159
I had 10 feet for birdie, miss the birdie, and uh, but I will say, like, the crazy thing is, is it's it was it was a challenge from beginning to end.
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.679
And the wild thing is I thought I would be nervous on the first yeah, I was the first group out on Saturday.
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.440
Yeah, yeah, I remember, yeah.
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:29.280
And I thought I would be nervous, and honestly, I was not, I was quite the opposite, actually, because I was like, I was jacked up, like I had the adrenaline flowing, juices pumping.
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.639
I also had two cups of coffee and a monster in the morning.
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.000
And did you chocolate eggs before, guys?
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.039
Go to ghosts, use code daylight 15 to check out.
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:44.000
I had I had monster the blue the blue Hawaiian monster was really good.
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:57.599
Um, and I ended like my you know, my advice to anybody that's nervous on the first T of any golf tournament is um pick your target and hit that ball as hard as you can.
00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:59.920
Like that's my that's my advice.
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:06.079
First T nerves every time grab your driver, yeah, hit that ball as hard as you possibly can.
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:14.239
Um, and the crazy thing is things though, too, with good golfers is you commit and you pick your pick what you want to do and you do it.
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:27.760
But oh absolutely, and here's the even crazier part the there was word around the tournament, more or less, of a guy that qualified of the guy that qualified in Alaska.
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:37.199
Yeah, so the guy that the guy that qu yeah, so the guy that qualified in Alaska, I think he shot the highest score to qualify, and it was a 74.
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.800
And there was only 15 people in that qualifier for one spot.
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:52.800
And I thought to myself, I'm like, Road trip 15 once one spot for 15 is a lot better than three for seven, you know, three and seventy-eight.
00:36:53.360 --> 00:37:02.800
So I thought to, you know, I mean, obviously, you only get one qualifying site to do it at, but if you're confident that you can be that one, you know, Alaska is definitely feasible.
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:14.880
And then I met this other dude who flew, he's like, I signed up late, I could either do it in Hawaii or Mexico City, and so I went to Hawaii, and I was like, okay, hey, why not?
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.000
Um, and then the Lido.
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.440
So yeah, I want to hear about the Lido.
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:23.679
I knew you would.
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:25.599
Yeah, the Lido.
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:32.559
I'll say this from a championship golf course perspective, San Valley is much better.
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:33.280
Okay.
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.000
That's my opinion.
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:39.840
Ice Trey's opinion, not the opinion of the CDP boys.
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:50.159
However, the Lido, the Lido had a lot of the, you know, since it's a CB McDonald design from the 1900s, it had the old school feel to it.
00:37:50.239 --> 00:38:03.199
It was much flatter golf course, easier walk, but there were a lot of hidden things, yeah, hidden bunkers, yeah, hidden uh native areas.
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.440
And you could absolutely smoke a drive down the middle.
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:18.960
Next thing you know, you're up against uh uh, you know, you're you're you're up against a side hill or a you know a bunker that you didn't see on the thing, you know, just whatever happens.
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.960
That's like 14 at Positampa vibes right there with the little goalie.
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.920
I I don't I don't know what that looks like off the top of my head.
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.760
But you know, a lot of hidden, and that's what it that's what it looks like to me.
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:55.280
I know it's super flat, you're not gonna see all those green shapes, those bunker shapes from playing it down, but like there's the more you play it, the more you learn and the more you know correct situation, and it is and I don't know if you guys knew this, and I didn't know it till I got there, but the Lido is actually private, and it's only open to resort guests like four days a week, yeah, or maybe five, four or five.
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:56.400
I don't know exactly.
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:02.000
Yeah, um, yeah, but I will say, like, it is it is very fun.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.119
It is the grains are very challenging because they are very firm.
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.880
Since it's built on a sand basin, right?
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:15.119
You know, and there's no like real soil to soften it up.
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.719
It is very firm.
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:34.480
So you and that, and that's the one thing that I I don't think a lot of people consider is is and I and I think about it like a couple months ago when Rasta put out that reel where I hit six iron from 230 at at at Coyote Springs.
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:45.119
Like, I'm not hitting six iron exactly 230 yards, like I'm hitting six iron to a 210 yard in the middle of the green, so I could two putt for par kind of thing.
00:39:45.360 --> 00:40:11.039
And that, yeah, especially in this golf tournament, if you're not playing to the front of the green, like you're losing every time because uh you know, here in Vegas, like I can spin a six iron back five feet, like it's it's like you ain't doing that at Sand Valley or the Leto, and like somebody's a knock when the ball hits, yeah, exactly.
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:23.519
Like, and you you know, you saw my I posted a story about that, just dropping the ball from three, four feet off the ground, like it just like it's like this table, it just hits and doesn't do anything.
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:29.760
But I remember walking the Lido thinking to myself, I thought about you, Joe.
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.480
I was like, Man, this is this is Joe's vibe right here.
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.719
In the crazy, here's the wild thing, it had Renaissance stuff there.
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:46.400
Uh they had well, they actually had the uh what they have the persimmons you can you can rent the bags to play like old nibblets, yeah.
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.480
All that yeah, they had like the older golf balls and stuff like that there.
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:58.320
And um, so I thought about you when I was walking that because they're you know the greens have the old school vibes.
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:04.800
I got the what is it, the Redan, the Eden, and the Alps, the Alps hole, and the Alps hole was the tenth hole.
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:18.800
And if you didn't hit your ball far enough right, like you're hitting you're hitting over top of 50-60 foot mound hill thing to a rock that's on top of the hill on the right side, like and it was pretty cool because that was like a half-punch bowl green as well.
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:38.559
And I mean, it was from from the time that I arrived at San Valley to the time that I left, the San Valley employees and the USGA employees and volunteers were spectacular through and through, fantastic customer service, everybody extremely helpful.
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:43.599
Dan, Jeremy, like fantastic, these fuckers need to play in it.
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:49.519
You gotta make you gotta make one because see now you know why I've been trying to get you guys to do it for so long.
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:51.920
Go fucking play in them, get in there.
00:41:52.159 --> 00:42:10.400
Like it is it is the most unreal experience, and and the only downside to my trip was I didn't, you know, you guys weren't there, like I didn't have you know, even just like not having Julian there, like just having somebody there would have been really cool just to kind of experience that there.
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.840
But at the same time, like the Monday before I left, I had a little bit of a caddy fiasco.
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:20.559
The guy I hired backed out because he was a pro caddy that had to work for his pro.
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:30.480
And luckily, I had a backup because uh a guy I used to work with in Florida is a part-time caddy there, and he caddy for me did an amazing job.
00:42:30.559 --> 00:43:04.079
Yeah, he did an amazing job pointing me around the golf course, and even like in the first two practice rounds, like he lived here in Vegas, so he understood like I had to adjust to hitting the ball shorter, which took helpful about a round and a half to figure out, and then uh, because at the same time, when I got there on Wednesday, I hit a lot of range balls and I chipped for like two hours, three hours, and then sat fright, Thursday and Friday practice around my back was tight as a drone super stiff.
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:09.039
Yeah, but uh, I mean, I I couldn't help myself, you know.
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.039
You got a brand new title list on the driving range.
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:15.840
I'm just gonna stand out there and hit hit eight, hit 108 irons if I can if I can't.
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:22.239
So, what's your thoughts on on the guys that that actually pull this off that they win the mid-am?
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:29.599
Playing two rounds of stroke play and then playing match play and pulling it off.
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:34.719
What what's your thoughts of that accomplishment now that you've participated in it?
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:35.679
Okay.
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:38.639
Well, the cut was plus three.
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.719
So the cut was a 13 for four at plus three.
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:50.000
So and the crazy thing is, is the guy that got medalist at nine under, he lost in round two.
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:59.840
But from my point of view, when you asked me that question, I immediately thought of our band and trip in 2023.
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:10.000
For and the reason I bring that up is because of something that Jeremy said, like on our second day, after you know, he and I were very large at the time.
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.000
And I remember him asking Colby.
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.000
I remember asking Cole him asking Colby, he's like, dude, are you good?
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.880
Are you in because it didn't look like Colby was in that much pain?
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.440
Like he was definitely the fittest one out of all of us.
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.239
And Colby's sacked.
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:34.239
Jeremy, Jeremy asked Colby something along the lines of, dude, you don't even look like you're tired or sore as we are.
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:36.559
Like, please tell me that you're tired.
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:43.920
And so, like, when you asked me that question, I immediately thought of that because like I was tired, my feet definitely hurt.
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:52.880
And in the hotel at night, like I'm stretching, um, um, I'm stretching, I'm using the massage, I'm using the I'm using the foam roller.
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:57.760
Hell, I had in the first round on my uh 11th hole in the first round.
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:02.400
I shanked a ball and I made an amazing bogey after hitting that shank.
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.199
But there was a rules official on the putting green after.
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:13.599
He goes, He's I he had told me it was the one of the best bogeys ever seen, but I also asked him, I was like, Can I use my massage gun right now?
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:20.800
Because, like, yeah, there was like a cold breeze that came in, my back locked up, and I needed to use the massage gun real bad.
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:38.320
So um, but talking about like the guys that made it all the way, like one, they must have the strongest backs in the world because all these guys are I mean, except for the guys in their 20s, like once you get to 30, 35, you're like, okay, we got some back problems now.
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:44.800
Like, well, I mean, if because it's walking only, so you if you make it the entire way, how many, how many rounds is that?
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:46.079
Is that you got centers?
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:52.800
Well, if you make it, I mean the round 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2.
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.199
So, and two is two rounds.
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.159
So that's seven rounds, nine rounds total.
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:05.119
And uh, I mean, that's if but the guy that won never made it to the 18th hole, so he didn't play full rounds every time.
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:06.000
Yeah, true, yeah.
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:15.679
Yeah, um, so like the one thing I will say is is like to the guys that make it up to the guys that make it all the way, like that requires some incredible golf.
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.519
And it's not and it's not even the meant the physical part.
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.800
I think the hardest part of all of that is the mental part, right?
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:35.679
Yeah, especially especially for like a guy like myself, for a guy like myself that was there by himself, like if you have like if you don't have a buddy there or your dad, you know, there are a lot of dads caddying, there's some wives caddying too.
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:47.280
Like, if you don't if you don't have like a support system there and you're there by yourself and you go far, like kudos to you because that is a mental battle, mental grind.
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:49.760
That's heavy heavy on the head for sure.
00:46:50.960 --> 00:47:06.000
And the crazy thing is, is I you know, I learned a lot about myself as a golfer playing in this, and I also learned that like I want more of that, as much as I can get it on that high of a level.
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:16.559
And because I know the one thing I told my fit my fitness coach yesterday is I was about I'm 255 right now.
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:51.199
I told him like if I was at 215, I would have had no problem playing better because I know that maybe my back or my feet would have hurt less, and I could have put the mental energy more mental energy into my game than I mean, I was putting a lot of mental energy into it already, but at the same time, I was using I was using a lot of that mental energy to push down the pain that I was dealing with in my body so I could execute the golf shots I needed to hit.
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:55.760
And like that's that's what a lot of people don't understand.
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.159
And like, and I'm talking about I'm not talking about golfers on my level, Dan or Jeremy's.
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:08.800
Like, I'm talking about like to you, Matt, to you, Joe, to any of the guys, gals in the comments, like compete at your level and see what you got as a golfer.
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.639
Like, I I will I am thoroughly believe in competing in this game to see what you got.
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:30.639
And if you don't want to compete, don't talk shit about people that do, because that leads me that leads me into what I what I want to talk about as well, and what some what I've had many conversations with is on reinstated ams.
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.480
I am going to preface this be saying two things.
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.320
One, my opinions are mine alone, not these boys.
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:43.599
Two, I am a reinstated am.
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:49.280
I also I competed as a professional.
00:48:50.000 --> 00:49:02.719
I never made it past Q Corn Ferry Q school pre-qualifier, and I only competed in probably 10 to 15 mini tour events three years in a row, 17, 18, 19, and a little bit of 2020.
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.280
And I got my I got my I got my status back.
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:18.639
Yeah, I got my status back at like kind of midway through 2020 through COVID, because the last tournament I played was I think 2019.
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:34.079
And this is my opinion on reinstated AMs, especially you know, guys that you can Google that were in the field and their PGA tour profile pops up.
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:45.599
It ain't their fault, it ain't their fault for reinstating as an am because they followed the rules that the USGA has in place to reinstate as an amateur if you were a professional.
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:52.719
So if you're talking shit about them because oh, there's former pro you're 40 former pros in this field, like that ain't fair.
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:54.239
Fuck that.
00:49:54.400 --> 00:50:00.559
Like they follow the same rules that I did, you know, they follow the same rules that I did to reinstate with the USGA.
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.679
So if you got a problem, why don't you reach out to the USGA?
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:17.119
And the crazy thing is, is as well, and take this for how you know, for the people that watch this podcast, I don't care how you take this.
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.119
This is truly how I feel about it.
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.559
If you're not competing, let it loose, Trey.
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:23.599
Let it loose.
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:34.320
If you're not, if you're if you were not one of the 6,000 qualifiers that played, and you're not even a lick of trying to compete in an event like this, yeah.
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:39.119
Your opinion on reinstated AMS means nothing.
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:46.480
And I will stand by that because you have no idea on what it takes to compete on this level.
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:55.760
Some five, six handicapped dilly-dally dumbass on the fucking on Instagram that talks about oh, former pro this, former pro that.
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:57.679
Like, no, get out of here, bro.
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:08.320
Like, is there a line about the is there a line though that and I mean I could care less, you know, it's like like you said, I don't compete at that level, so my opinion means shit.
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.239
But I'm wondering, is there a like uh Colt knows?
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:25.840
I mean, here yeah, okay, so it was a big one last right here that played on PJ Tour, has PGA tour earnings, has made a career well, he's got freaking like PJ Tour health insurance, I think.
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.440
So, this is my opinion on that.
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:37.119
I do believe that there needs to be a guideline of some kind, something along the lines of this.
00:51:37.360 --> 00:52:16.079
If you have let's you know, these are just numbers that I'm spitballing, these are you know not accurate by any means, but if you have 50 starts on any PGA tour affiliate, if you have made over 50 grand on any PGA tour, DP World Tour, Asia Tour affiliate tours, you know, if you if you've made uh uh 50 starts, 50 grand, or you know, you've played more than you know 10 or 15 years as a pro, like I think that kind of guideline right there deserves not deserves to not be reinstated.
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.519
I'll be double devil's advocate here, right?
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:26.239
Like, so when when somebody is pro, right, that's what they're doing for their job for the most part, right?
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.360
Most of them, yes, you know, so especially if you're playing on a PGA tour.
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.239
Yeah, if you're playing on the PGA tour, that's your job.
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:44.079
But if you have to go back into society and be a software engineer for a company, like you don't have that time to practice.
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:57.599
So it's like it's like do you retain your like there's gotta be some sort of like uh like body chiropractor where they could be like right, hey, do you still have the juice or something like that?
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:05.039
Yeah, but that's the issue, uh you know, because I think you can really reach a certain like point, right?
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:07.519
You have it, you've then you have it, yeah.
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:20.239
But I think if you you know, if you've played golf at the elite level and you have you know career earnings and you've played for multiple years, you've taught you've topped out, you're you're you're done.
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:27.840
You still want to compete, you still want to compete, go join the the skins game at Silver Leaf with all the other pros and and do that.
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.840
Is the hard thing to get though, and they have that too.
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:33.840
So yeah, yeah.
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.320
I I agree with that.
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:43.199
There's there's all there's always a devil's advocate around that, and you know, there who knows what that baseline could be in the future.
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:44.159
I don't know what it is.
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:51.519
That's just simply a guideline that I had in mind after having this conversation to reevaluate how the reinstated process goes.
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.119
There's situations like yourself.
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.920
I I have no issues with what you did.
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.400
You you tried to make it as a professional, yeah.
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:02.159
You still have the competing juices, you didn't make it as a professional, you still want to play?
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:03.920
Okay, you're playing amateur events.
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:04.800
Yeah, I get that.
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.639
But somebody that's made 20 million dollars on tour, yeah.
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.599
Well, I mean they don't need to be playing amateur events.
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:16.239
There, I won't say his name, but the 2026 US and U.S.
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:24.400
Senior Amateur Champion has 165 starts on the PGA tour and corn ferry tour combined.
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:30.320
I'm like, that's not yeah, I I know that because they're texting back and forth.
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:37.280
They're texting each other, that's why it's not true, it's very true.
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:49.119
But when you have 165 tour starts, like that right there, in and of itself, is 10 years worth of pro golf at least.
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:55.360
Yeah, and I don't think that deserves, I don't think that warrants the ability to turn back as an amateur.
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:59.760
Yeah, you you you know chose to compete on those tours.
00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:03.280
That's that's you saying I'm no longer gonna play amateur golf.
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:04.159
Correct.
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:14.320
And that's you know, that's how I feel about the former pros and the you know, in reinstated AMs, is like, because then I also you know, on my flight home, I had a friend of mine text me from Florida.
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:23.519
He goes, he said to me, he's like, I feel like it's a disadvantage for the other people in the field to play against former pros.
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:32.559
And yeah, I mean well, and this is my thought about this is my thought about the disadvantage part.
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:42.880
I don't feel like it's a disadvantage because if you feel like you're at a disadvantage and playing in the mid-am and trying to qualify for one, and you qualify for one and you make it.
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:48.719
Like I I went in there thinking I can win that damn thing because even if I didn't, what else did I have to lose?
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:50.239
I had I had nothing to lose.
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.840
But I knew I had the I knew I have the game and the ability to win.
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:58.719
Did my physical body could could have make it?
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.119
That's to be determined.
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:08.400
But at the same time, like I did not feel in the slightest that I had a disadvantage whatsoever.
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:15.840
And I feel that if you have a disadvantage on any level in golf, don't compete.
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:20.239
Just be a weekend warrior, like, yeah, get better, make more birdies.
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:28.320
Like and and if you feel like you're at a disadvantage when you play tournaments, like you're in the wrong business, you're in the wrong game.
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.239
Like, go back and you know and play with your lady once a week or whatever.
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:59.119
You know, no offense to the people that play with their ladies, but you know, I'm just saying, like, you should not compete in sport if you feel like you're at a disadvantage against the other people you're playing against, as long as there is a level-ish playing field, and you know, I I went into that thinking that you know, I remember Ryan Hardenbrook's, you know, he was like, dude, you might have to play a Stu Hagestad, you know, if you make it to match play.
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:00.000
I was like, bring it on.
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:01.360
I'm not afraid of that guy.
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:02.880
I had a great and I had a great time.
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:25.119
I had a great conversation with him at the bar after uh on Monday after I played Mammoth Dunes, and he had just won his match play event and or his match play match, and you know, I I had asked him what would what T box like what was more nerve-wracking, the first T of the Walker Cup or the first T of Augusta National.
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:50.400
And uh he said Augusta National, which I knew that was gonna be his answer, but he had just came back from Lahinch and I wanted to know what that experience was like, and um I mean he said it was um he plays out of LA country club, so uh he he was like, Yeah, it was he said that's the best first tee ever, and his favorite golf course is now Augusta National in Pine Valley.
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:59.039
So um, but I mean, from the 15 minutes I had a conversation with him, super nice dude.
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:06.719
I you know, and not that I had anything bad to say about him, but yeah, that's super cool.
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:11.280
Didn't Hagastad just win a big event at Pine Valley, like some kind of cup, like last week or two.
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:18.159
Yeah, it was like the Curtis, not a Curtis Cup, it was like I think it was called like the Crump Cup or Crunk Crunk, I don't know.
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:21.280
Yeah, some some big event at Pine Valley.
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:27.840
I could have sworn he went because uh at the same time, one one last thing, Dan, then you can ask your question.
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:37.119
Because I also asked him, you know, I would love the uh I would love the opportunity to represent Team USA on a golf team.
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:42.719
That I think that would I would think that would be an amazing honor, whether it's an amateur or a rider cup.
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:44.159
I I'll never make a rider cup.
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:50.559
I I would also quick interjection, they should pick America, American Dunes for one of those one day.
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:51.599
Just saying.
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:52.719
That would be cool.
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:53.440
That would be cool.
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:58.559
American Dunes, Dan and I, I mean, Dan knows that place is that place is pretty special.
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:21.119
Um, but yeah, I mean that's uh I would I think I would love that it that would be like the greatest honor I could have in the game of golf is to be part of a team USA yeah to compete in like a rider cup style event, whether it's Walker Cup or you know, I actually just found out there is a mid-am uh like rider cup.
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:21.760
Oh, really?
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:28.639
Wow, it's called the it's called the it's called the Bridges Cup, it's a mid-am cup, team USA versus Team Europe.
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:31.679
Sent them a message and I asked them, I was like, how do I make that?
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:32.960
Because I would love to make that.
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.679
Uh you I know you would love that shit for sure.
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:37.440
I would love that shit so much.
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:53.760
I mean, I just I love to compete, and I think match play is the most level playing field that you could possibly have in golf because it's not me trying to make more birdies than you, yes, it is, but I'm trying to win more holes, whether I'm making birdie, par, or bogey.
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:55.519
So yeah, yeah.
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:56.480
Dan, go ahead.
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:56.880
Sorry.
00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:58.400
No, you're all good, brother.
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.719
Um, did you you played all the courses at San Valley?
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:10.800
I did not play Sedge Valley, and I did not play the the Commons, which is the 12 hole the new one it's the course.
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:11.920
Yeah, okay, correct.
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:13.599
I commons look sick.
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:20.079
Because for the people that didn't play sandbox though, I did not.
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:21.039
Oh, okay.
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:34.000
So the the Monday following stroke play, if you did not make match play, you as the player got to play Mammoth Dunes or Sedge Valley for free.
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:34.880
Oh, nice.
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:47.360
And I chose man, I chose Mammoth Dunes because five or you know, a bunch of the employees and a couple of the caddies told me that Mammoth Dunes is the best golf course out there.
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:52.719
And I will say it is the I will say it's the best golf course out there.
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:56.320
Fun when it comes, it's the funnest problem when it comes correct.
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:00.480
When it comes to pure resort play, yeah.
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:08.880
And on the first T, I actually played with one of the guys I played stroke play with and his dad and his caddy.
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:10.239
So it was the four of us.
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:16.079
And on the first T one of the guys asked, like, why is this called Mammoth Dunes?
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.039
Is there like uh you know, because a Willy mammoth is a big elephant?
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.280
It's like, is there some elephant type shit out here?
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:40.400
He's like, No, the the he said the greens and the fairways are the size are the size of mammoths, like they are mammoth, like huge, like a couple of those greens you could land a 747 on, like four huge greens, and even the fairways, some of them were a football field wide, like not like wide, like long.
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:52.800
I'm talking like a hundred yards wide, and uh, but at the same time, like it was you could bang driver everywhere out there, but it was a lot of fun, especially after you know the two days of playing stroke play on very tough conditions.
01:01:53.039 --> 01:02:30.960
You know, the the grains out there were like 10 and a half, and they were much softer, and it was uh it was a lot different, but at the same time, it was actually all the mental effort I put into playing the stroke play, like to not use the same mental effort in a casual round the day after was kind of nice, and then I ended it with a few beers in the in the bar, and then I drove and then I drove uh I I after after I played Mammoth Dunes, I called Aaron Hills, and I got on Aaron Hills on Tuesday.
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:32.639
That's my next question.
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:37.920
How would how did that how did that uh compare?
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.559
Aaron Hills is fucking spectacular.
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:47.920
There it is.
01:02:49.920 --> 01:03:05.920
And I don't like that comparison question because I feel like when I compare when I compare Aaron Hills to that of um to that of San Valley or the Leto, like I always I always feel like I am like degrading one or the other.
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:14.800
And there is no degrading because like I will say this though on the comparison side of things.
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:22.480
Super average.
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:24.559
Average.
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:31.280
Aaron Hills, spectacular, so many options.
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:42.000
I mean, they had 12, you know, they had like I don't know, 12, 15 shelves full of hats, many different brands of shirts, many different brands of head covers.
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:49.599
You could laser etch, you know, glasses or like like like whiskey glasses or head covers or cigar case.
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:53.199
Dude, I mean what'd you what'd you shoot there?
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:54.639
One over.
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.800
I played 6,900 yards.
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:04.239
I after after walking five days in a row of golf, like yeah, that's not that strips out to like what 76, 77, something like that.
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:05.360
I think that goes.
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:10.639
And there is no it may be 900 feet elevation, but there's no elevation out there, boys.
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:13.519
Like, no, 900 is flat, basically.
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:23.119
Yeah, I mean, it is basically 900 is basically sea level when it comes to golf, and like it was it was awesome, man.
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:32.880
Like, I went to go like replace my divot because it was bank grass, and the caddy goes, Oh, you don't have to do that, we don't do that, so you don't have to, but they were also closing, they're closing next week.
01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:41.760
So uh they're like, Yeah, I mean it's it's but Aaron Hills spectacular, and it's I'm so glad I got to do it.
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:43.840
It was definitely yeah price for sure.
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:50.320
But yeah, uh, you know, the crazy thing is, is if I were to play Sedge Valley, it would have been$400.
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:53.920
Yeah, that's how much Aaron Hills was.
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:58.079
Yeah, major, major, major course, smart choice, smart choice.
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:10.719
Yeah, and so I you know, I got myself a hat and a head cover and and uh and a shirt, and uh I'm pissed because I lost my freaking Southern Pines uh copper ballmark on the golf course.
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:15.599
And but I I bought a I bought an Aaron Hills copper one, so I kind of replaced that.
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:21.599
But I was pissed because I you know that one carries the memories of our trip on there, and and yeah, anyway, it was a good time.
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:23.039
It's a coin, whatever.
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:24.000
But yeah.
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:29.519
I I want to do like a quick try and do a quick rapid fire question for you.
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:30.320
Go ahead.
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:36.880
Um, but I want to understand, I want to know did how did you eat much food at Sand Valley?
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:39.280
Did you have the tacos?
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:40.800
Just tell me yes or no.
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:42.639
I did have the tacos.
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:46.719
Okay, they were free for players, so I I had the tacos.
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.679
Did you have an ice cream sandwich?
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:52.239
I was not aware of an ice cream sandwich.
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:53.119
No, okay.
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:57.440
All right, so we can do we can do a couple questions real quick, rapid fire.
01:05:57.840 --> 01:05:59.360
Good, go for it.
01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:02.559
Alright.
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:05.519
I had them all in my hand.
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:10.480
We're gonna do we're gonna do we're gonna do Bandon versus Sand Valley.
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:12.239
Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask.
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:14.239
Alright, go ahead.
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.960
Bandon versus Sand Valley food.
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:20.480
Bandon.
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:22.719
Accommodations.
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:24.079
Well, you didn't stay.
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:26.400
I didn't stay on property.
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:26.960
Yeah.
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.000
But just uh all aspects, resort.
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:30.800
The resort.
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:32.639
Bandon versus Sand Valley.
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:34.239
Resort aspect.
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:36.239
Bandon.
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.480
Um you did not play the short course.
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:43.599
Uh conditions, Bandon or Sand Valley.
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:44.719
Sand Valley.
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:46.719
Oh, quick with that one too.
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.239
Uh damn, what was my last question?
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:51.280
Fuck.
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:55.519
I'll go back to that conditions one.
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:56.320
Yeah, go for it.
01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:56.880
Go ahead.
01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:57.840
While I think about it.
01:06:58.000 --> 01:06:59.440
No, you go because I gotta think of it.
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:05.840
So the conditions, the reason I say Sand Valley is because Bandon is open 365.
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.920
I don't know about Christmas and Thanksgiving, but they're open every day of the year.
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:10.559
Yeah.
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:16.559
Sand Valley closes next week and they close until May.
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:21.440
So that is why I put the conditions over that.
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:30.159
Because you know, at on you know, Band and Dunes being on the Pacific, like they are exposed to all the elements, more or less.
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:34.559
And so that affects the grass, that affects the conditions and all of that.
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:42.719
But from when I played it in 24 till San Valley two weeks ago, definitely.
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:45.280
So quick question here.
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:46.880
You're on a boys trip.
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:51.760
Are you picking Sand Valley and Aaron Hills with everything that you've experienced?
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.920
Or are you going back to Bandon?
01:07:55.440 --> 01:08:00.960
If I'm if I'm with the eight that went to Abandoned Dunes in 2024.
01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:07.679
Yeah, I mean, think about all the the accommodations, the food, like where are we gonna have the better the best time at?
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:14.079
Deep thought.
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:15.280
Play the music, play the music.
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:20.960
And Aaron Hills.
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:22.479
Okay.
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:23.600
Okay.
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:24.640
Wow.
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:27.039
How far away is Aaron Hills again?
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:38.239
Aaron Hills is about 40 minutes, it's about 45 to an hour outside of Milwaukee, about two and a half from Sand Valley south.
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:39.439
So okay.
01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:45.439
Like uh if you're gonna do that, Milwaukee was easy because you fly into Milwaukee, it's direct from here.
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:57.199
Um it's three-hour drive to Sand Valley from Milwaukee, and then Aaron Hills is an hour from Milwaukee from the airport.
01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.760
So not bad, not bad.
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:10.720
And I say that because one, I can't wait to go back in 2026 when we went in 20 or 27.
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:20.560
When we went in 2024, I mean I was so unhealthy and just so not in a good physical spot with my body.
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:43.279
And yeah, very large after that first day of carrying my own bag, and my back was just destroyed, like I was just recovering the next three days from that from my back being so bad, and I don't remember like, dude, I think on when I played OG with Dan and Bob, like I was like blacked out because we smoked so many joints.
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:57.680
But I will easy to do, but knowing you boys knowing how much you boys love band and dunes, and knowing how much I know you guys would love Aaron Hills.
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:16.640
I that's why I chose San Valley because you get the Bandon Dunes vibes at Sand Valley, but Aaron Hills is yeah, the is the icing on the big ass cake, because it's incredible, man.
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:21.119
Like, do you think Aaron Hills is better than any singular course at Bandon?
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.039
Better than Trails, better than Pacific?
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:27.039
Because usually those seem to be the top two.
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.520
Yeah, not counting length, you you can't add you no length.
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.479
Yeah, just no golf course, just overall golf course.
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:38.319
Uh overall golf course, including conditions.
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:45.439
Oh shit.
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:52.159
Um it's tough because it once championships probably funner.
01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:56.560
Yeah, in my experience, kind of an unfair comparison.
01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:08.560
It is an uncare, and it is un and the only reason I'm gonna make this decision is because I need to go back and play trails and pack again.
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:18.239
And the only reason I say that is because I'll admit, like, I was in in an immense amount of pain on that trip from what you know from walking 36 a day.
01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:23.840
Right, like when we finished pacoons, we were we were struggling down 16, 17, 18.
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:39.760
So like we were we were full, like why with that with with that there in mind, I will say Aaron Hills because I've been very fortunate enough to play a bunch of US open golf courses, and Aaron Hills was my next one.
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:45.760
Yeah, Aaron Hills was I've played Pebble, I've played Tory.
01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:48.239
Chambers.
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:49.039
Did you play Chambers?
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:57.600
When I did not play Chambers, um I think those are the only two I can think of without taking five more minutes.
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.560
Pineurst Pine Hurst, number two.
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:02.640
Oh, yeah, definitely beats Pinehurst.
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.039
Um definitely beats Pine Hurst.
01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:05.680
Ooh, I like that.
01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:08.079
Definitely beats Pinehurst, like and I looked at it.
01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:12.159
So it's it's better than Tory, and it's definitely better than Tory.
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:13.039
Hell yeah.
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:14.079
Speak Sawgrass.
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:22.479
I also see what it is because I know you played Sawgrass, I know you've played Bahill.
01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:33.840
So I and I say no because so I I got to play Sawgrass that first week of COVID in 2020 when the pros only played it once.
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:42.640
And I'd never played a better condition golf course outside of the only better condition golf course I ever played was Silverleaf in Arizona.
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:46.159
And look at what I got right here, and right here.
01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.600
This is the this is one of the ball markers you gave me one point.
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:51.760
No, it's silver leaf.
01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:57.520
Rusty 1964.
01:12:57.840 --> 01:12:59.199
So that's a nickel.
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:09.439
But yeah, I mean, the one thing I will say with Aaron Hills as well is it's got very, very much like European vibes to it.
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:28.560
Lynxy boys, hella very linksy European European vibes to it, big castle-like pro shop and and and clubhouse, yeah, cut it cottages that people can stay in, um, a sweet practice facility, big driving range.
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:32.000
I mean, it was it was top tier, like it was excellent.
01:13:32.159 --> 01:14:05.920
I'm so glad I did that because what I originally the first course that I reached out to on Monday morning was Sentry World, but they were sold out for the year, and because I was it was only 45 minutes north of Sand Valley, and I was definitely there, you know, yeah, and but I you know I'm gonna I want to say this specifically to Dan and Jeremy after my experience in this tournament, the lineup for like the next four or five mid-ams is fantastic.
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:16.800
And if you're able to, and I know you guys have your own obligations with family, and Dan, your dad, you know, god willing, recovers from what he's going through.
01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:40.159
You know, it if you have the I know you have the golf ability, but if you have the ability time-wise and finances-wise, to make it happen to go play, and if I don't make it shit, I'll go caddy for you because it I know you guys have played a bunch of golf tournaments in the past.
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:48.239
There is nothing that compares to the USGA at all, and I hope, yeah.
01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:52.800
I obviously I want to get to the straits, it's a thousand dollars to play there.
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:57.279
Um it's crazy, but no, yeah.
01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:06.800
I mean, it's it's uh it's a it was a an amazing experience, and all at the same time, I am I've ate enough cheese curds for the rest of my the rest of the year.
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:08.560
Shout out cheese curds.
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:32.960
But uh it it was that like I said, the the only downside is that one of you guys weren't there with me, or you know, a couple of you guys weren't there with me because there was a moment on there was a moment on the Leto where the two guys I played with, they were one guy from Philly, one guy from uh Charlotte, they both had parents and their wives there.
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:35.680
And you know, I didn't have anybody there.
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:42.960
So like there was a moment like both of them made a birdie on the same hole and they both got cheers, and I made, I think I made par or something.
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:58.079
And I was just like, I was just like that, you know, it's that was like the moment where I was kind of felt lonely on the golf course where I was like, I don't have anybody, I don't, you know, I don't have anybody here to like root me on for the you know for the par.
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:03.119
No, I get it, I totally get it.
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:06.079
Like, yeah, I mean like the support is always nice.
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:27.439
And not even not this, it's not just support, it's like, hey, like, hey, the it it was your first time there, also, you know, like how cool it was how cool is this whole just to say, you know, and somebody experiencing it too that you know you would would appreciate it like you do, and like it's just it's camaraderie.
01:16:27.600 --> 01:17:08.000
I mean it the the thing that I mean the thing that really drove it, the thing that really drove it home for me was that first day on the range, and I posted the video yesterday was when they put my name into the US GA slide right on the range, and like that was the moment where I was like, fuck, I made it like yeah, here I am, like I'm here, and you know, like when I was at Paiute on Sunday, and you get on the driving range of Paiute, guys are shanking it and duffing it, and whatever else they're doing, and I'm on the driving range, I'm looking up and down.
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:28.720
I there's four track man, three quads, all these guys have fucking uh all these guys have you know sticks in their belts and you know, all the gadgets set up, and like these here, like and I oh there's a guy like warming up, you know, uh on one of the practice rounds, warming up a couple down the way.
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:34.560
He had the quad out and like four alignment sticks, and like these guys are fucking serious.
01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:38.880
Like, holy shit, I'm just trying to get warmed up for the round, like I'm not trying to work on anything.
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:43.279
Like uh, you know, uh an old coach of mine texted me when he found out I made it.
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:45.920
He's like, Look, don't go up there to work on shit.
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.079
Like, use what you got to get you there.
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:54.239
Like, you like you go to play, like you're not there to grind out a range session to change your swing path.
01:17:54.319 --> 01:18:06.640
Like, yeah, we got uh yeah, we we pulled up in the uh bus, the the shuttle bus to Sankity Head, and the clubhouse there, it's a it's a old building that's been there for a hundred years, you know.
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:15.680
It's just this small quaint, the stairs going up the side of the building are this wide and they're super steep, and it's just you know, built for a different era.
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:24.720
And so we go in and they that's when he they took his picture and we had the lunch, and we're we're sitting there eating, and I'm just and I just got this grin on my face, and Andrew's like, what's going on?
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:30.479
I'm like, dude, we're sitting in the clubhouse at Sankety Head right now, having cool.
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:40.800
That's how I felt you know that's how I that's how I felt when I had you know my first breakfast and lunch there because the USGA we had free breakfast and lunch every day.
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:48.000
Yep, and uh I remember I think it was the Friday after the practice round.
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:58.560
They had for lunch, they had like these little peach cobbler uh cups with a Mars Capone cheese in it, and I had like four of those damn things, it was so good.
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.039
I was like, This is fucking free.
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:02.880
Like, I'm not worried about my diet right now.
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:14.399
So, like, uh, but man, it was uh it was it was it was it was cool, it was pretty rad.
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.159
It was special, it was everybody was so excited for you.
01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:23.199
Yeah, you know, it I know you knew you had a lot of support.
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:25.279
Um, yeah, but everybody was geeked.
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:27.439
I got messages from so many people saying, Where's the link?
01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:28.800
Where's the link to follow Trey?
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:44.720
So I know everybody was watched it, that was the only downfall, but you know, and it was cool to have like I got a text from uh I don't know if you guys follow Potter Ho, Josh Chang.
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:46.640
Josh Chang.
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:48.159
Yeah, Josh Chang.
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:50.479
He putterho.
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:55.439
Yeah, he he he texted me Friday morning or afternoon.
01:19:55.520 --> 01:20:05.520
He's like he said something along the lines of dude, it is so freaking cool to open up the USGA app and put a star next to somebody's name that I'm gonna do it.
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:09.920
So I can follow their so I can follow their score and like guilty.
01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:31.119
I got a lot of messages and a lot of phone calls, and all of them, all of them are super special, and I I can't thank everybody enough, but I will say, like, when he sent me that one, like I was like, Okay, yeah, like uh I I mean I would have stolen some, but you know, whatever.
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:32.800
It's a golf ball.
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:35.439
Um that one keeps on popping up.
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:36.399
Why do you keep doing that?
01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:37.199
I don't know.
01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:40.000
I did it before you even put it up, so just chill.
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:45.520
So the one thing I I mean, I definitely bought my I bought enough stuff in the San Valley.
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:53.600
I bought enough stuff in the Sand Valley and Aaron Hills Pro Shop that I actually had to go to Walmart to buy a box to ship it home because I didn't have enough room.
01:20:53.920 --> 01:21:00.720
Nice, but the one thing I will say is when I was at San Valley and I asked them because you know, Bandon Dunes, they'll ship stuff home for you.
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:05.760
Like, yeah, yeah, they ship it, you know, they you just pay for it, like and they ship it home.
01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:12.000
And I asked like three or four employees in the pro shop, they're like, Uh, I don't know if we do that.
01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:13.600
We don't think we've ever done that before.
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:15.680
Like, you're missing out.
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:20.319
I mean, he's like, one guy goes, Well, if you want to pay for it, like, we'll do it.
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:25.680
Which I yeah, that's super customer service oriented.
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:26.640
Yeah, yeah.
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:30.399
I mean, we don't like to, but we will, yeah, yeah.
01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:39.760
Yeah, and I I did meet the director of golf because he was announcing people on the first T of one of the practice ranges on one of the practice rounds.
01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:41.439
Super nice guy.
01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:57.359
Uh, he had been with uh the Kaiser family for a while, and um it was that is definitely a place like I would go back, and I would if I go back, I hope you know the four of you guys are are with me because I want to go.
01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:12.159
It certainly is uh the way it was described to me is Sand Valley is the championship course, Dolito is the private course, uh Mammoth is the fun course, Sedge Valley is the betting course.
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:25.359
Um the executive course was the commons, and they said that's just a you know, that's just a quick round, and then obviously you have the short course, which is just a good fun play.
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:33.760
Because I heard that Sedge Valley, being then it's like you know, like I think 5,500 yards, 5,600 yards, par 68.
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:34.399
Right, yeah.
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:52.560
The cat all the caddies told me like that's the course that the groups go on and they bet because there's you know, like five or six drivable bar fours, you know, there's a short par five, and and and you get the ability to uh you know just to have really a really good time out there.
01:22:52.800 --> 01:23:24.479
So it's while it is a a dream golf facility, it is completely different than bandon because you know, bandon's got the five big courses and two short courses, and when you have like that many there, like both of them, you know, shuttles running all the time, all the you know, the whole the whole way, but at the same time, like it was just different for me because I was there for I was there more for business than I was for fun.
01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:25.920
Like obviously, I had fun.
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:32.880
Like, I'm not I'm not denying that, but I was there to you know play the best golf that I could to try to make match play.
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:38.399
And and I will say, like I finished 10 over and I had five doubles.
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:55.039
I didn't make as many birdies as I wanted, but at the same time, on when I on the uh I finished wrong with 35th and 36th holes, I made back-to-back birdies, and I also knew that on the third hole I made double on Leto, set third hole of the day.
01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:59.279
Second the fourth hole I made bogey, but the fifth hole was a par five.
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:06.800
I there was a double put fairway, I went aggressive on the on the right fairway, and I made like a 65-footer off the green for eagle.
01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:10.319
And when I made that eagle, I got back to charge.
01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:13.439
When I made that eagle, I got back the six over.
01:24:13.520 --> 01:24:31.359
And I told myself, I was like, if I you know, if I go four under in these last 13 holes, like I knew two under was gonna get me in, and I knew three over was gonna be that number where I'd probably have to get in a playoff, but I had my eyes set on two over because two over definitely would have got me in.
01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:38.720
But at the same time, not to mention, I also played the last nine holes of the tournament without a lob wedge, so that was funny.
01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:39.760
That's true.
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:40.479
Yeah, that's right.
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:41.119
Uh oh.
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:44.319
Did we leave the lob wedge there or did we bring it home?
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:48.159
So the Lido has a build shop in the pro shop.
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:50.960
So after yeah, I've seen that bent.
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:55.920
I I had a crescent moon of a lob wedge snappy boys.
01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:58.159
It didn't, it didn't snap.
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:01.840
It definitely, you know, it was definitely bent 30 or 40 degrees.
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:08.880
Um, and so I just I asked the guys in the pro shop, can I use you got a torch in that build shop?
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:12.239
It's like, yeah, it's like the guy, the kid goes, I don't know how to use it though.
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:12.960
I was like, give me that.
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:18.640
Oh wow, I I took well he you know, he didn't build clothes, but it was a full build shop.
01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:22.239
I used the torch, took the head off, and and just put it in my bag.
01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:40.319
So um now I can I hope my hope is now two things that I get to play in more USGA events, and that Dan and Jeremy get to experience it, like I got to experience it.
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:58.000
And and if one of them do make it, I am more than happy to caddy for you because after being in one, I think the experience of me being in one and then helping you on the bag, knowing y'all's games as well as I do, like I think we could, you know, I think we could go pretty far.
01:25:58.880 --> 01:25:59.439
So cool.
01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:00.319
Awesome, man.
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:03.840
So the they need to go playing them, they need to go qualify.
01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:07.359
Is what you're saying is Dan and Jeremy need to go qualify.
01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:16.079
I mean, and the crazy thing is, is the guy Matt Mitchell that made medalist, like the one thing he told me is he said the US four ball is a lot of fun too.
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:24.640
So, like, if one of you guys want to do a four-ball, I mean if when Julian gets healthy, maybe you know, you two be a team, he and I be a team, you know, team.
01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:33.199
Um, you know, Joe would I mean you couldn't be able to make it, he'd have something he's got a Renaissance feather, he's got a hit up instead.
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:37.680
I just remember I just remember Joe last thing.
01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:44.399
I remember Joe's walk in the uh Oregon airport after being sad.
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:46.880
The next four U.S.
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:57.119
Mid-AM championships are in 2027 at Juniper Hills in Jupiter, it was that Jupiter Hills, what I say Juniper, sorry, Jupiter Hills.
01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:58.960
Uh that place is spectacular.
01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:07.920
2028 is Country Club of Charleston, 2029 is the golf club of Tennessee, and 2030 is Bel Air Country Club.
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:10.239
Oh, which Bell?
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:12.560
The one in Bel Air, California?
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:17.760
Oh, yeah, the the Bel Air Country Club.
01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:19.520
Yeah, Los Angeles, California says.
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:20.239
Nice.
01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:20.720
Okay.
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:35.439
So and then uh I think um I think 2034 20 2034 or 33, they're doing uh Oak uh Oakland Hills or something like that.
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:37.520
No, Bel Reef.
01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:38.560
Bell Reef.
01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:39.439
Oh Bell Reef.
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:40.880
Yeah.
01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:42.000
Nice.
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.920
What's the one in what's the one in Oklahoma that they play the PGAs?
01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:47.359
Sout Southern Hills.
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:49.840
Yeah, or Oak Hill.
01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:51.760
No, not Oak Hill.
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:53.439
No, Oak Hill is in Buffalo.
01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:54.800
Southern Hills, yeah.
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:55.600
Southern Hills.
01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:59.119
Oak Hill is where they have the uh where they have the USAM next year.
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:01.920
Let's see.
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.960
So then it's Sun River Resort in 2031.
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:06.159
32 hasn't had a lot of things.
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:07.600
That's the one I want to play in.
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:10.000
Sun River in Oregon?
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:10.560
Yeah.
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:12.079
In 2031.
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:14.159
The crossbow course.
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:16.319
33 is Ultrasol.
01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:20.399
34 is the Champions Club in Texas.
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:22.399
And 35 has not been announced.
01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:24.640
37 Southern Hills.
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:24.880
That's right.
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:25.920
36 is Southern Hills.
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:27.359
I knew it was out there.
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:29.760
Yeah, I mean alive in 10 years.
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:32.000
Where Mito Mito Pereira lost it.
01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:33.760
That's true.
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:35.600
Shout out Mito Pereira.
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:37.520
Gone for the eight gone.
01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:38.800
Nowhere to be seen again.
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.439
Noah killed Thomas winner.
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:42.720
Mito the Pito.
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:45.760
He's in Chile eating Chiles.
01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:50.800
Probably wrapping up skins games at the Chilean International.
01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:51.439
That's true.
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:51.760
Yeah.
01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:54.880
He's probably living off skins games for sure.
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:57.119
Playing people in his sandals.
01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:00.399
God, when he did that, man, that was when he did that.
01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:02.319
I was like, what are you doing?
01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:04.319
That was uh Trey JT.
01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:05.840
Thanks, man, for telling the story.
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:08.479
It's more people need to hear about this stuff.
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:19.279
I wish more people would talk about it because it's it's such a cool event, and the USGA does such wonderful things for the mid-ams that that make it's a spectacular event.
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:20.720
So make sure you're out there.
01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:25.920
Glenn played in two senior AMs, 22 and 23.
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:28.319
And honestly, he undersold it.
01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:36.640
Like he was trying to tell me his experience, and I was trying to like live that experience, but at the same time, like he undersold it.
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:40.000
And the crazy thing jaded because he's got so many years on you.
01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:40.960
That's the problem.
01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:54.319
Well, the and the last thing I will say, and I heard this from a couple of people that have played in multiple mid-amps, and mostly they compared it to the one in Sleepy Hollow in 2022 or 23.
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:16.640
But at the same time, like I think to myself, like they can do better than this.
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:30.000
But I also heard Sleepy Hollow, the golf club dumped like a couple hundred thousand into the experience for the players, and yeah, of course, you know, had like lobster tail bars and you know, crab leg bars and all this other shit.
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:32.560
And but yeah, it was.
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:36.079
I hope you boys are able to experience it.
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:40.720
And I hope I you know playing in the same one, or at least I could cat it for you.
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:42.960
Hell yeah, yeah, definitely.
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:45.680
All right, let me bring up that we we have a giveaway.
01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:49.520
We don't know what we're giving away, but we'll we'll figure out something.
01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:51.840
Um, don't need to share it with the audience.
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:54.000
Let's give away Trey's USGA badge.
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.880
Yeah, yeah, no, he is plastic.
01:30:57.520 --> 01:30:59.279
Absolutely fucking not.
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:02.239
Put everybody down there.
01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:04.960
We'll sell it on whatnot then.
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:08.079
Rob with a crazy question.
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:12.239
We know the we know Michigan's on that L.
01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:14.079
Man, fuck Michigan.
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:18.239
Doozing it! Wolverine's losing it! Doozing it.
01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:19.920
Are you here, Davy?
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:22.159
Are you doozing it?
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.399
I mean, yeah, he was there not too long ago.
01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:28.640
He was not, he was not far away.
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:29.600
He's not far away.
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.560
827, that was four minutes ago.
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:33.680
There he is.
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:34.479
Oh, yeah.
01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:38.159
Mystery box coming your way.
01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:39.279
Mystery giveaway.
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:44.640
Shout out the Northeast.
01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:46.640
Oh, good heavens.
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:48.880
Up there ripping lips and selling on wood.
01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:50.640
Well, well, well.
01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:52.239
Hey, just out there.
01:31:52.640 --> 01:32:01.039
I a couple uh uh in-house announcements real quick, and then we'll get out of here.
01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:09.680
Um, if you have not noticed, if you have not frequented the Chasing Daylight podcast website recently, I encourage you to go check it out.
01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:11.760
Lots of changes going on over there.
01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.840
I got all of Tim Flote's old articles brought over.
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:26.079
All my articles that I have written at the either the Breakfast Ball or 1440, they are all now on the site under my 1440 article tab.
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:30.960
So if you want to go check out any of those past articles, they are all there right now.
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:32.159
Oh, nice.
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:37.199
Um, I am in the midst of writing one right now for this.
01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:39.279
This is the Shot Scope LM1.
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.720
It's a launch monitor that's only$200.
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:47.359
Um, I got some time spent with it this past weekend.
01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:49.119
Got the article about half done.
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:55.920
So, any future articles and reviews that's gonna take place on the Chasing Daylight site under the 1440 tab.
01:32:56.079 --> 01:33:00.880
We have some new writers coming soon, so keep an eye out for that.
01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:07.920
But there's been a huge update to the community page, and this is where uh I may have done it too soon.
01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:12.720
I put the Vegas rankings out there, I put the course conditions out there.
01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:18.800
Um, but the community page is something that I think is going to be a special place going forward.
01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:21.920
It's slowly starting to get better.
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:26.159
I'm slowly building things into it, but it's not just for Vegas people.
01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:29.920
I don't want anybody to think that we're only doing this for Vegas people.
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:31.119
This is for everybody.
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:33.600
The course conditions is for everybody.
01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:39.600
If you have played a course here in Vegas lately or a mesquite, it's for everybody.
01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:43.920
We want everybody to report those course conditions so everybody knows what's going on.
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:45.119
I'm very excited.
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:48.640
We have almost 80 reports now from all courses across town.
01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:56.880
If you go to the main page on that, you'll see there is a massive reduction in the courses that were closed for overseating or restrictions.
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I think there's only like seven up there right now.
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So the courses are open, people are playing.
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Need to get those uh you know reports in so everybody knows the more people that do it, the better it's gonna be.
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So please do that.
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But like I said, the community page that's open for everybody.
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Anyone can participate in that if you want to be just a part of our community, and there's gonna be perks for it, I promise you, coming next year.
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Um, so check it out, visit those pages.
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You're gonna be able to start interacting with people on it shortly.
01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:30.560
Um, it's it's a great source of information.
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All of our podcast episodes are on there.
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Uh, you can get the links to the the audio, all the descriptions, uh, everything's on iTunes.
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They'll all be linked shortly.
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Um, but if you have anything, who we've interviewed, the guests we've had on the show, the episodes, it's it's all on the website now, and it's getting better.
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So I encourage you to do that, and I'll post when this review goes out.
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I think people are gonna be interested in what I have to say.
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So go to this, go to the website and interact.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Shout out all the homies being here tonight.
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Yeah, the CDP community.
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I I love the word community, and and I'm not trying to take anything away from the guys at community golf that have their podcasts.
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They do a great job, but they're right.
01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:19.119
If there is a golf community out there, um, we are all a part of it.
01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:28.960
But it's there's there's a there's a big group of people that we interact with that are we consider you know part of our golf family, and that's that's the CDP community.
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And we want all you guys to be a part of it.
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We want you, we're gonna start hosting events in 2027.
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Uh, we're gonna have some some options for our listeners that want to interact with us that's gonna make it a little bit more than just a podcast.
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Podcast isn't going anywhere.
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We're still gonna do this every Tuesday night because it's what we do, you know, the Tuesday night hangout.
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It's it's what we do, but there's gonna be a lot of cool stuff coming, and I can't wait to share it with everybody.
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That's all I got.
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Are we doing it after our show tonight or not?
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:03.039
Oh god, no, I got so much shit to do.
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:04.000
No, all right.
01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:07.359
Well, I was gonna I was gonna spew some things, but it's all right.
01:36:07.439 --> 01:36:08.479
Oh, what were we gonna spew?
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:10.239
I'm not telling.
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Okay, we'll save it for another episode.
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Try to remember it for the next one, yeah.
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Yeah, the the X-rated Renaissance Festival stuff will have to come out in another episode.
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Yeah, Trey, again, thank you for being here, man.
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It's an awesome story.
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Joe, do your shit and take us out of here, guys.
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Thank you for being here.
01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:38.399
This is episode 401 of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.
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Shout out Mr.
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Trey Sanders, US Midam representer for the homies.
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Uh, if you got the game, like he said, go into those USGA tournaments.
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Uh, appreciate you guys being here.
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Uh, make sure you get out there, play some golf, chase that daylight, man.
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Golf is the best game, it's the best networker.
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We appreciate you.
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Make sure you subscribe, bookmark, use code daylight15 at check out at Garsengolf.com.
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And until next week, we'll be here once again on Tuesday at 7 p.m.
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Pacific Standard Time.
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Thank y'all for hanging out.
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Until then, we'll catch you later.