Making the G-Code Great Again with Nino Breeze

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Speaker 1: It gets no better than this.
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Speaker 2: You are now in tune to Perspectives with Big Bang.
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Speaker 1: Let's get straight to it.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to Perspectives with Bang. Today we locked in, man. Got Floyd in the building. How you feeling, Nino?
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling all right, man. I'm in the building with Big Bang. Well, I must be.
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Speaker 3: Doing something right.
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Speaker 2: 100%.
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Speaker 3: Nah, your shit hard.
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Speaker 2: Before we start, I'm going to let you know your shit dope. I went down to Rabbit Hole just looking at all your shit last night.
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Speaker 1: I'm bringing pressure for sure.
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Speaker 3: Hey, I want to check on your mental first before we get started. Where your mental at?
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling great, bro. I'm feeling great. I'm feeling determined. I'm inspired. You know, I got a couple projects that I'm working on. One of them I'm getting ready to drop soon. It's an EP named Nonfiction. And that's just something to feed the streets while I work on the next project, No Further Indictments. You know what I'm saying? I'm going all out on that bitch, dog. I'm using all the material that I was putting together in the chain gang. I had a vision for that bitch since day one. You know what I'm saying? So it's a lot going into that particular project. But yeah, I just feel determined, bro. I feel inspired. I feel like I got something that I got to say and something that need to be heard right now.
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Speaker 3: 100%.
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Speaker 2: Hey, when we hear the name Nino Breeze, what's the first thing we should think of?
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Speaker 1: I mean, shit, I mean, really, like, I'm just trying to make the G code great again. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just a lot of flex being put on it, bro, because... I was just talking to my dog about this on the way up here, you feel me? Like, you know, there's a lot of street niggas that might not understand the internet. So then it's kind of more like nerd, like people that take a fascination with street shit that create these platforms. And that's where we getting the information from. But they putting salt in the ism. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, and you know, like the majority win. So if you got a whole bunch of square niggas that's putting their two cents on street situations, they make everything that got to do with the street just sound. Like idiotic, bro. Like, like, like, like, like, they don't really like understand the perspective. You know what I'm saying? They don't understand like, like, like our train of thought. So it's just about me. I feel like my mission right now and like what I want people to associate me with is just articulating like this street shit in a way to where you feel me like it sound like it's supposed to sound and it made sense. What's the G code? I mean, the G code, it's like, it's like a manual to the streets. You know what I'm saying? But the only problem is everybody ain't living by the codes.
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Speaker 3: Do the code you know still exist in real time?
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Speaker 1: It's relative. Like I said, it's a handbook. You got to pick that bitch up and use it yourself. I feel like back in the G, everybody was living by the code. 100%. Or generally speaking, you know what I'm saying? And it's just fucked up because any other sport, once you get on that playing field, everybody playing by the same rules. If we all go out, if we all in the NFL on Sunday, 10 yards is the first down. A touchdown is six points. You got a point after attempt. You can go for two or you can kick the field goal. You feel me? Like everybody got the same rule book. And it's like, that's what the code once was and the way it is now. It's like optional. You know what I'm saying? And it's like just me personally, the code aligned with my personal morals and my outlook on this shit. So that's something that I lean on heavy, but I understand everybody ain't living like that. But as far as me and my innermost circle and what I'm pushing- We pushing the code, you know what I'm saying? And I just feel like it's important for niggas to make. I feel like people kind of gravitate towards who winning. So I feel like the real niggas do it for a win, bro. I don't feel like keep letting this pussy shit slide.
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Speaker 2: Nah, that's what I always say. It used to be money over bitches, you know what I'm saying? Now it's money over everything. When they make money over everything, that.
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Speaker 1: Mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I ain't never like that.
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Speaker 3: I think that took the code away.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't never like that.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? That took the code away. But let me ask you something. The G code, though, I want you to break it down. Like, the top three.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the number one that everybody speak on is going to be the not snitching thing. You know what I'm saying? And that's part of the code. But, like, whenever you got a code of conduct, it's definitely going to be other aspects of it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's just about, if I was to name the top three, I definitely would still say, like, You know what I'm saying? Keep it in the streets. If you call yourself a street nigga, you keep it in the streets. I would say teamwork made the dream work. You know what I'm saying? If you bless another, have a clicker nigga that you get into it with. You know what I'm saying? Turn each other up each way that you can. And just be reluctant to allow people in your circle, bro. Everybody got to be... You know what I'm saying? You know how they got them diamond testers? I feel like you got to test niggas the same way you make sure a nigga's authentic, bro. Because sometimes we just crown people, give them access a little too early. People be stamped and they're not really verified. They got to be battle tested, bro. Rob Markman, Jr.
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you something.
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Speaker 2: Do you think these days it's just being made up as it go?
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Speaker 3: Like niggas is making it up as it go?
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Speaker 1: I don't think they make it up as it go, but they move the goalposts. You feel me? They make exceptions depending on who it is or what they got going on and how they might feel about somebody, bro. And anytime you got a code, anytime you got a law, it's law. It's non-discriminatory. Like the law of gravity, what goes up must come down. That apply to me and banking, everybody. You know what I'm saying? So that's how a nigga's supposed to implement a code, but we know how that go.
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Speaker 3: So what's the difference between the streets and the industry? What you think the difference is if it's all one and the same?
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Speaker 1: The line's getting blurred.
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Speaker 3: That nigga got some good ass ass. Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: The line's getting blurred, bro, because you got to think about it. Like the era that I grew up in, when I was growing up and the rappers that I emulated or whatever, looked up to, whether it be Ross, Jeezy, T.I., all these niggas. If they was in the streets by the time I seen them, they was polished street niggas. They was niggas who had at some point devoted themselves to their craft and the music grind, you know what I'm saying? And had put the work in necessary to gain some traction. So by the time I had seen T.I., he had already got that artist development going. You know what I'm saying? So what you got now due to the internet and everybody having access, bro? You got niggas that's currently actively in the streets that's getting traction with the music. So that's why I say the line's getting blurred because it's like, if you a dope boy in your city that's getting two or nine times out of ten, bro, you rap. Even if you don't rap good. I get what you're saying. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: The streets done basically took over.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they done took over.
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Speaker 3: The streets done basically took over.
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Speaker 2: It's niggas that came from the streets and got out and started rapping back in our day.
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Speaker 1: Like, okay, these niggas straight rapping.
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Speaker 2: Now these street niggas rapping, but they still street why they rapping.
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Speaker 1: So it is. And then it's a sick system because like, I feel like a lot of times the fans don't want to hear like necessarily the best rapper. They want to hear the most authentic rapper. So it's like if you talking that dope west shit and you get on this bitch and it's more about you sounding authentic than necessarily being like a lyrical, miracle, bar for bar rapper. It's like that's what they find entertaining. The same thing with the drill rappers, dog. So it's almost like The more shit you pop on wax, which is incriminating, the more they love it. So it's like, you got to find- But.
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Speaker 3: You down there got to though. Like, cause you got to add, no, but keep it real. You got to add. It's like, just say Vincent. If I tell a nigga, like, I'm finna interview Nino Bree. A nigga say, man, is he like that? That's the first thing a nigga gonna say.
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, that is the first thing. That's the first thing, like, yo, that's the first thing.
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Speaker 2: Shit, my man, Mercedes P, say, y'all are like that.
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Speaker 1: That's how you did.
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Speaker 3: Now a nigga listen to your music with a different ear, like, oh, nah.
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Speaker 1: This shit hard. Yeah, that's what it is.
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Speaker 3: If a nigga say a nigga ain't like that, that shit garbage.
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Speaker 1: Automatically, bro.
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Speaker 2: That shit going crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's going on. So it's like, you know, it's just different. And then when you consider the way that the game structure, like how to even get noticed. But that bankroll go a long way. You know what I'm saying? The niggas with the paper, they're the ones who can afford the best videos, who can afford to pay all the blogs to post they shit. You feel me? They uploads going to be more pressure because they got the jewels and the band-aids. You know what I'm saying? So it's like before long, you know like back in the G when they had niggas like Boosie or Wayne, it'd be like niggas from the block that had paper and would put money behind a talented nigga from the city, like from the cut. But now... But even back then, when Birdman was putting that money behind Wayne, Birdman would still fuck around on that mic. Now, the old era, Wayne was the star. In this new era, Birdman would be the star. Because he's not the best rapper, but he'd get on that bitch and pop his shit. You could feel like, hey, I ain't going to lie, dog. Sound like you know something. You know what I'm saying? So, I feel like the line's getting blurred and like... It's almost like we got to go back to the drawing board and maybe reestablish, make some new rules. We got to update the playbook.
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Speaker 3: But how do we do that, though?
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Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie, bro. It's probably going to take a couple years. Because it really be about examples almost. Like, I'm going to have my method. You're going to have your method. And neither one of us might know which one is the most effective or the best way to go about it. We probably ain't going to see the results of it. Like two, three years down the road, I'll be like, man, I ain't gonna lie, Nino had the blueprint. Bank had the blueprint. Then, you know, they take pages out of niggas' books and hear the manual.
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Speaker 3: What make you different than any other nigga in this shit?
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Speaker 1: I feel like... my position, my position as far as what I done experienced in the streets and still being free to talk about it without a stain on myself. You know what I'm saying? Because most niggas who done seen what I seen, or been in the scenarios that I been in, a lot of them niggas got a lot of time, bro. So the chances of a nigga seeing what I done seen and still being here to tell his story, and happy to have a float, to where a nigga going to put that shit on, you know what I'm saying? Get on the beat in there and make that shit sound like it's supposed to sound, and got the game to match. That's the advantage that I feel like I got. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: You got on that rag on the way up here.
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Speaker 1: You ought to know that. You ought to know that. I caught the cut and hit mine. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: Little bitch is doing what it do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yellow big roll, gold mouth dog. We in the building, boy. I got to put on.
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Speaker 3: I bitch my shit sometimes, bro.
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Speaker 1: Hey, look.
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Speaker 3: What's the shit you learned in St. Pete that you probably could have never learned nowhere else?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I feel like to an extent, you know, the same thing is going on. City to city, hood to hood. St. Pete just got its own flavor, you feel me? Like its own, say its own. So it's like, I feel like the thing that I got from St. Pete that I can't get from nowhere is just be the swag, my steelo, you feel me? My get down. But as far as like, but like, I feel like, you know, like, I feel like everything that I went through in St. Pete in varying degrees is what go on, you know, city to city, ghetto to ghetto. It's just St. Pete got they own individual little swag. You feel me? And that's what I'm bringing to it.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned a couple of rappers early on. You know, we all listened to music before we got into music.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Did you ever meet any of them rappers that like, damn, he ain't who I thought I was? Or he exactly who I thought he was?
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Speaker 1: No, I ain't met nobody yet that I would say Like, like, like disappointed me to the point where I felt like they were fugaz or something. But like most of the rap niggas I done cut into, I just met them in passing. But I vouch for that nigga Rosito. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like really the way that I rock, like before I went to the feds, I was the oldest nigga in my circle. When I went to the feds, that was like the first time where I was around niggas 10 years, 15, 20 years older than me, bro. And it's like a certain, it's just a certain aura that they got from that era. You know what I'm saying? So when I cut into Rosé like years later on turf, he had that, I can smell it on him, you feel me? Like he had the same, okay, like, dog, nah, nah, you know, like, dog, really, like, you know what I'm saying? And I know what I know. So it's like, just like me, me knowing niggas from that era that was getting toured, them niggas that was in them lanes and like doing that thing, I was actually like really happy when I cut into Rosé and I felt like he was authentic.
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Speaker 2: Hey, what's some shit, I'm glad you brought that up, what's some shit that... Like, how you manage to just stay out of that shit? Like, the shit like, Rose be into a nigga like Fit, then Drake.
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Speaker 1: How you stay out of that shit?
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Speaker 3: Like, you just feel like that ain't your place.
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Rose told me early on. I remember I said something to him about, you know, like, maybe like down the road going on Vlad TV or Breakfast Club. But, you know, he got beef with both of them. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, yeah, bro, that my shit. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got nothing. I wouldn't do anything like stop your paper or stop your motion. If it's a play, my nigga fuck with it. You know what I'm saying? So as long as it don't turn into anything like physical or get into some gangster shit, then I ain't really tripping. You know what I'm saying? If I'm there to pop off, I'm all in. You know what I'm saying? But in that run, nigga can't pop that shit out. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: Man, I finna ask you something else. So how has it been signed to another artist, though?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's different because it's Rose. You know what I'm saying? We talking about a nigga who, you know, 20 plus in his shit. Yeah. Half a billion. You know what I'm saying? And he just got a lot of respect and a lot of resources. And, you know, like, me and his connection deep in the rap anyway, so I don't even feel like I'm signing a rapper. Yeah, I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? Like, that shit came off the screen for, like, some street shit, some real nigga shit. And he a player, bro. Like, I'm really ripping this shit like I'm independent. I do what I want. You know what I'm saying? He ain't gonna block no motion.
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Speaker 3: Who the GOAT from Florida all the time? Dead or alive?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's categories. It's categories, dog. To me, like, Raw's gotta be the GOAT of Florida in terms of success. You know what I'm saying? Success and longevity. And then I feel like between Kodak and Ply's as far as being the epitome of a Florida nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was heavily influenced by Ply's personally. I was catching all my first fetters listening to that nigga's shit.
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Speaker 3: Ply, oh no, he's St. Myer.
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Speaker 1: Fort Myer.
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Speaker 3: Fort Myer. That's close by y'all, right?
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Speaker 1: That's close by. West Florida. You know what I'm saying? Them boys thought like we do. They got a similar vibe. You know what I'm saying? I'm actually fucked up by 239. I listen to a lot of artists from Fort Myer because I feel like That's one of the last areas in Florida that ain't been infiltrated and influenced by that outside shit. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, for my generation, I said it was Plyos, but then after that, it was Yacht. And Yacht was able to take it somewhere commercially that I don't know if Plyos was able to. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: He's the epitome of a Florida digger.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Plyos and Kodak, bro. The only difference is the generations. That's the only difference though. Kodak is what Plyos was to me. For these young niggas. You know what I'm saying? But like, that'll be like my top three. And it just depends on like the category.
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Speaker 2: When was that moment when you knew like, okay, I got some. These folks fuck with this shit.
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Speaker 1: Like as far as like access to the inner square, just like on the mic.
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Speaker 2: Just like, you know, when you start doing music, you know, at first, you know what I'm saying, it just be niggas around you.
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, I kind of was like turned up out the gate. I first started taking the rap shit serious when I was 14, bro. And I just used to rap at school. And, you know, I would let, I had a partner named Doobies. You know, I'm a quiet nigga. Doobies was like popular niggas. So he knew I could rap, and that nigga was damn near like my promoter or some shit like that, you know what I'm saying? He'll get the whole clabber, he'll be quiet like, hey, man, my nigga got something to say, and I'll take off. We'll do the same thing in the locker room. The boys will like rub me down and just want to hear my shit. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, kind of like, oh, chickens. Like, it was tough. And then, you know, I started like, you know, kind of like not going to school as much, and I started getting in trouble going to like JDC, these juvenile programs. You know what I'm saying? Like the youth for the federal programs and the prison system. And that's when I got really shocked. Cause it's like, I really feel like the best rappers in the chain game. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: So hard is everything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Cause like you, you, for one, you live in that shit and you died in, and then it's like, you know, still shopping still. So when you in that bitch with, you might be the best rapper from St. Peter. Cool. But like, you know, it's Florida state prison. So, The best rapper from Orlando in there, the best rapper from Diceville, and then it's like, them niggas from St. Peter come get you. Say it's a nigga from Tampa, and we beating on the table, doing our thing, and he slide. Well, I got a nigga for you, boy. Them niggas are coming my cell, and you know, hey, what's up, nigga? You know what I'm saying? They want me to get in the ring, you feel me? So it's like, bitch, you got to come correct, put on for your section, that shit, how we beating her. You know what I'm saying? I would say early on, high school juvenile programs, all that shit, they would tell me I was the one. Rob Markman, Jr.: How long you sat down? Yeah. Different amounts of times. Shit, I did Florida juvenile system. You don't do no more than 21 days, so it's like I kept racking up charges because they'll send you back out. I kept racking up charges, racking up charges, fought around and got the red fire. That mean charges is dope. And that's how I ended up going to my level eight program. And I was in that bitch for a year. After that, I was only home for a couple of months. I fucked around, crashed out again, went to state prison for two years. Then I was home for four years when I went on that money run and ended up catching that fair bid. I did five off that. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So what changed? Well, how did you change to not be back in there?
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Speaker 3: How long you been home since then?
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Speaker 1: Shit, five years. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Is it like getting signed, or what made you slow down?
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Speaker 1: Because you had to slow down if you ain't went back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly, I had already elevated my perspective during that four-year run before I went to the feds. I was doing my thing, but I was smooth with it. That shit really happened off the scrum floor. A nigga that I was fucking with tough, he broke the code. Nigga told on me. I wasn't in no situation where the people was on my trail and I was moving sloppy, you feel me? Just my right hand, you feel me? The nigga that knew everything about my operation, that nigga went bad. So you go to the feds, you got your story that you learning from. But I was at Coleman, that's the biggest correctional complex in the federal system, in the FBOP. It's like, I think, I can't remember what, 1,500, 2,000 people on the pound with me, bro. Like everybody in this bitch got caught different ways. But it's just in that bitch life, it's like college, bro. I'm just soaking up game, soaking up game. And then like started to learn about the credit shit, you know what I'm saying? And fought around and had a good credit score. Because I had Mike start a credit card, you know what I'm saying, when I first went in promoting my mixtape. And I just had my mama making like the minimum payments on that bitch. So by the time I came home, that bitch had like seven years worth of history, 100% on time payments. I'm looking at my shit with like a 720 something. Then I started optimizing my credit. I came home, I was able to snatch me a whip, no money down, personal loans, and like credit cards with like $ 20, 000 limits on them. And I started investing in me off the rip. And then while I was in prison, like my last year, I shifted my focus towards like all business. I'm the type nigga to where If I learn something, I want to implement it. So I waited to the end of my bid to read the business books because I knew I was going to want to actually utilize it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I'm in that bitch learning the social media marketing, the essentials of marketing, period. You feel me? Like I'm learning, I'm reading all you need to know about the music business books and different things about distribution and how to get your shit going. But when I came home, I put it down. You know what I'm saying? And I just been in a blessed position, dog, the world. I was able to get traction with the music. I'm going city to city, state to state, you know what I'm saying? I still got a long way to go, but they really tapping in, bro. Rob Markman, Jr.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 2: Hey, what's something that the streets taught you that the music business couldn't, and something the music business taught you that you could never learn.
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Speaker 1: In the street? The number one thing that I learned from the streets is the way that I hustle. I just never stop, bro. Because it's like, when it's good, you know what I'm saying? When it's good, I'm going to go hard. Because this is the time where you run that bag up for the rainy day. You never know what's on the horizon. And then even when it's bad, I'm still going in. A lot of times what made the difference in the position that you in, like even when that shit swaying back around is what you doing that them other niggas won't do. You know what I'm saying? So I just hustle on some like, I hustle like it's a survival tactic. And I feel like that's something I learned from the streets because it would just be times where the gang go up and down and there'd be times where like when it's swaying down, I would regret not taking advantage of certain opportunities. And then as far as something I learned from the music industry, I couldn't learn from the streets. I don't know, I feel like the biggest takeaway that I got from the music industry is the love. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of people that know me and love me and support me that I never would've got that type of relationship from. In the screech, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about white boys, white girls, little kids, that kind of shit. You know what I'm saying? And just not being as The screech kind of tell you to be kind of like, you got your guard up. You feel me? Like you defensive and you skeptical of who come around, bro. And it's like, I really fuck with the fact that all this music shit, bro. I've been meeting people from all walks of life and we could just have a regular convo and I ain't got to be on my P's and Q's.
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Speaker 2: What's something about the industry that you just can't get with? Like, man, I can't get with that. It'd be a lot of shit, homie. Like, that's a long list. That's a long list.
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Speaker 1: Top three. Top three. I ain't going to lie. I had something to say about the shit 21 took off with, and I think he ripped it right up. The Fuck the Screech movement? But I ain't going to lie, I don't think anybody feel that way for real. I feel like that was something to get motion going. I understood the concept, but I wouldn't say Fuck the Screech though, because if you elevate a pad of Screech, that's good for you, but that was the conduit. Got you where you at.
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Speaker 2: To me, I don't know, because I say that all the time too. When I say fuck the streets, I'm saying these streets, because this ain't the streets that I know. Fuck these streets.
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Speaker 1: This ain't the.
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Speaker 3: Streets I know, bro.
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Speaker 1: But you know, the streets is a... What's the word I'm looking for, bro? It's a... It's like a desperation movie. It ain't... Not fuck the struggle.
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Speaker 3: I guess niggas trying to put all that shit in one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I look at it like. I'm talking about these fake streets.
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Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Like, bro, you gotta think, bro. We gotta take it to this.
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Speaker 3: Like, Dirk. You think Dirk thinking the niggas right next to him finna tell on him, bro?
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Speaker 1: Like, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Like, the nigga who told on you.
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Speaker 2: Niggas will fuck your bitch, tell on you, kill you, do everything. That's too hard, man. Fuck that part.
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Speaker 1: Hey, man, back when we were doing this shit.
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Speaker 3: At least it was kind of even. We can make the money. You can't really make the money.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how it.
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Speaker 3: Go on in St. Pete, but downhill.
00:25:53
Speaker 1: No, no, no. It's like this, bro. It's definitely like squeezing water out of a rock. You know what I'm saying? You got to be a hell of a nigga, bro. And like me, I'm a survivor. Like, I took L's, but I never took an L so severe, like so adverse to where I couldn't be here today. So I feel like, I kind of feel grateful for the game and the experiences that I got from Screech. You know what I'm saying? And I know everybody's story ain't going to go like mine. But it's like, as a grown man, when you get in on Screech, it's like, it's something that's there for who it's meant for. The problem is that he get glorified and Screech niggas, you know what I'm saying? We highly influential. So then it's like, a nigga make it look good. And then the next thing you know, a nigga that don't got no business in this shit will get in this shit. And that's kind of where it get fucked up at.
00:26:52
Speaker 3: But that's 90% of the nigga that's in it now.
00:26:56
Speaker 2: Like, niggas ain't getting in this shit for the money no more. Niggas getting in it for the look and for the clout. Like, you can't win like that.
00:27:04
Speaker 3: Like, bro, I done did everything a nigga can do in the street besides die in them. And I don't want to do that, so that's why I.
00:27:09
Speaker 1: Fucked this shit up. Rob Markman If you separate the Screech from the struggle, then it's like that kind of do hit different. But to me, it's like the Screech was the path that I took to get to where I am today. Rob Markman Me too. Even though it's like, it's a lot of adversity. It's a lot of pain that I got from the game. You know what I'm saying?
00:27:29
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, though.
00:27:30
Speaker 2: Because if a nigga just make that statement and just leave it like that, you give it to a nigga to interpret it however they want.
00:27:35
Speaker 1: To get it.
00:27:36
Speaker 3: And niggas like, bro, hell nah, bro.
00:27:37
Speaker 1: I got stabbed, shot, all kinds of shit behind the street shit.
00:27:40
Speaker 3: Can't say fuck that.
00:27:41
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Let's say Tom Brady, bro. Let's say Tom Brady. He not in the field no more. but he still got love for the game. He still give his commentary. Like if he get around some, some, some, some, some up and coming, you know what I'm saying? Let me tell you this.
00:27:57
Speaker 3: If they started letting Transcendence play in the football, it's a different game. He might be able to find like a, like there's one team.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: This what it is, bro. We got to be in the locker room with all these people.
00:28:17
Speaker 3: This the new game.
00:28:18
Speaker 1: But that's why I say what I said when you asked me about the three pillars of the code. And I said that you got to be selective, bro. They got to be hand selected. And I had a lot of squares in my circle, but the niggas that I'm moving with at this point, bro, I'm really happy that I got brotherhood. You know what I'm saying? I really feel like I got the right niggas in my corner to run it up with. You know what I'm saying? And as far as what I can't get within an inner script, like you said, and I kind of spoke on it earlier, I really don't like how the scripts is being portrayed because different people got different personalities. A nigga that don't be in the streets, I can understand why he'll put emphasis on, you know, the negatives and the shit that seem like stupid.
00:29:16
Speaker 3: They the one got the voices, though, Nino. They the one got the voices.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here. That's my mission. I get it. You know what I'm saying? To negate that. But what I'm saying is, I can do the same thing to a squad nigga. I can do the same thing to a squad nigga. What you mean? I'm saying I could be like, damn, my nigga, you wake up Monday through Friday, 9 to 5, just so these crackers can take this and that out your check and tell you what to do and you ain't got enough money to whoop the whoop. I can make it sound bad if I focus on the negative, but you got your freedom. You know what I'm saying? Like niggas like me, like we in and out of jail. Some of us catching elbows, ain't never coming home. And a nigga like you going to be patching our old lady while we in that bitch. You know what I'm saying? But if I focus on the negative, I can make it sound bad. That's why I say there's pros and cons to every lifestyle, my nigga. And really what determines where you end up or where you should be is your personality and what works for you. So you don't see too many street niggas just sitting around on podcasts talking about 9 to 5 niggas. But you got a lot of sidewalk niggas talking about street niggas.
00:30:22
Speaker 2: But let me say this. They done made it too well.
00:30:28
Speaker 3: Online determine what goes on in the street.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
00:30:31
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's the main problem.
00:30:33
Speaker 1: Because the majority win, and the majority of people square. So when the majority of people give input on street business, they going to go against.
00:30:42
Speaker 3: It's like a nigga be like, he ain't really tell.
00:30:45
Speaker 1: How the fuck he ain't real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just got his dicks up, so he ain't really gay. Like, what the fuck, bro? Yeah, bro, I ain't gonna lie. Screw you, nigga. This shit's supposed to be real black and white, bro.
00:30:57
Speaker 3: Thank you, bro.
00:30:58
Speaker 1: It's not, though. Am I trimming? Is it black and white, bro? It's supposed to be real black and white. Unless, like, sometimes niggas do shit that ain't sadder, but it ain't telling. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes, like, a nigga could... Like what? Sometimes a nigga can make a decision that's best for him and not consider his dawgs. You know what I'm saying? It's like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, I kind of use a little discretion on that. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, yeah, but this shit black and white, bro.
00:31:25
Speaker 3: It's too many loopholes in this shit. But once I got confused, that means it's my time to go.
00:31:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
00:31:32
Speaker 2: Especially you start seeing niggas that you thought was solid trick you.
00:31:36
Speaker 3: Like, man, I thought that nigga was solid.
00:31:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:38
Speaker 3: And I started seeing them type of niggas on there. Man, it's over with for me, man.
00:31:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
00:31:42
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying? It's like, I know this is a solid nigga. That's why I don't say no nigga's solid until.
00:31:47
Speaker 1: He die that way, bro. Yeah, yeah.
00:31:48
Speaker 3: Because nigga always got a chance to be a fuck nigga.
00:31:52
Speaker 1: You snapped there. That reminds me. I be saying I feel like every nigga going to tell until he don't. Facts. I swear to God. And the truth. I got to see you stand up, boy. Then I'm going to stand up. That's shit. Real shit. Real nigga shit.
00:32:05
Speaker 3: That's what I was like, bro.
00:32:06
Speaker 1: It's too confusing.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: That's why I'm a podcaster now.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interview real niggas.
00:32:11
Speaker 3: I interview anybody.
00:32:13
Speaker 1: We got to diversify. You know what I'm saying? You know what they say. It's young men for war, old men for counsel, bro. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that's how I be looking at it. I be looking at it like, I be thinking about the 12, 13, 14-year-old jet that got the heart and the ambition, bro. And he know it's going to be a rocky road.
00:32:34
Speaker 3: But we need to jump out the port.
00:32:35
Speaker 2: The road that he going on ain't even paved no more.
00:32:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:32:39
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. So niggas supposed to jump out. Man, don't even need to go do something else. They ain't going to be able to go do what we did because it ain't there to do no more.
00:32:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: Am I tripping?
00:32:51
Speaker 1: I feel like it's always, the odds always been against us.
00:32:54
Speaker 3: It's like, It wasn't that many. It wasn't 90 that way and 10 that.
00:32:58
Speaker 1: Way, bro. It was kind of 50-50.
00:33:01
Speaker 3: Nigga make some money or something.
00:33:02
Speaker 2: It was like, bro, if 10 niggas, you might lose five. Five niggas to the chain gang, three niggas might die. I mean, two niggas to the chain gang, three niggas might die.
00:33:12
Speaker 3: Now that shit, you're going to lose nine.
00:33:14
Speaker 1: And a half niggas. If you got 10 niggas, you.
00:33:17
Speaker 2: Got 10 niggas, three on racks, two on gates, Goddamn, this nigga, he'll backdoor.
00:33:24
Speaker 3: It's three solid niggas out.
00:33:25
Speaker 1: Of ten, though. I think the young niggas going like, I don't know, bro. Like, they going, they going to pave the way that they see fit. You feel me? Like, every generation, they hand it, like, it get handed down differently. You feel me? Like, Like, my generation probably a little different from yours, and y'all probably a little different from the one before y'all. To where like, we gonna look at it, I ain't gonna lie, we probably gonna look at it like it's some fuck shit.
00:33:53
Speaker 3: But when they got passed down, at least we were catching some of it.
00:33:56
Speaker 2: These young niggas these days ain't catching none, because they learning from niggas that really don't want to tell them nothing. And these young niggas really don't want to hear nothing unless you got the money. We used to get our game from Jays, old men. Them y'all niggas don't want to hear none of that.
00:34:09
Speaker 3: From no nigga that ain't got no money. You ain't got no money, OG don't want to hear that shit. I'll hit you.
00:34:13
Speaker 1: With this switch. That real nigga shit, though, I used to be saying that to my little brother. I used to be saying like, man, it was like on some music and shit. I was like, they all jamming. Like, man, that nigga flat on want to hear that broken head nigga shit. I'm like, damn. And I was just like, I was like, bro, like, you know, like, Boosie ain't come in the game with money. Came in the game, you know, speaking his pain and shit. Man, them niggas want to hear that shit, bro. Tupac didn't have no money. Like, bro, like, the niggas with the money ain't start to like, Jeezy got it and shit like that. And they was an anomaly then. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
00:34:44
Speaker 3: Y'all niggas don't want to hear that, bro. I don't want to hear none of that broke-ass shit.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: Real talk, bro.
00:34:51
Speaker 3: So, nigga, we'll go serve a J and ask him, bro, how you get on this shit, bro? You know what I'm saying? And then a nigga like, shit, bro, a bitch tricked me on it. So, nigga, I never smoke a geek junk with a hoe.
00:35:02
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:35:03
Speaker 3: You picking up game as you go from another nigga downfall. These niggas don't want to hear that shit.
00:35:08
Speaker 1: It's just like... I feel like it's just like with everything, with the younger and younger generation get the mold, cookie cutter, microwave. It ain't as thorough. They don't have a thorough understanding of the screech, because it's like you want to get from the bottom to the top. There's all levels. You know what I'm saying? You can learn something from the J. You can learn something from the Jike boy. You can learn something from the Dope boy. You can learn something. It's different aspects of this shit. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, everybody just kind of want to go for the gusto out the gate. So it's like, that's where a lot of the.
00:35:42
Speaker 3: Shit get fucked. Nigga want it instant.
00:35:44
Speaker 1: Definitely. Ain't no nigga trying to stack shit, bro.
00:35:49
Speaker 3: Ain't no nigga trying to wait on what. I want mine now.
00:35:54
Speaker 1: It's a difference.
00:35:56
Speaker 3: We need to grind like shit. I'm going to have my turn.
00:35:58
Speaker 1: I feel like that's why the snitching shit so bad, too. Why you say that? Because we live in this world of It's the gratification. When I talk to some of the young niggas and the ages that they say is old and the amount of time that they say is a long time, even if we ain't talking about prison time, I just know they frame of mind like 10 years, five years. I know that shit in them sound. You know what I'm saying? Them niggas don't want to miss a summer. I don't know what they're going to do with it, but bruh. It's always going to be a struggle, so that's always going to be the street.
00:36:39
Speaker 3: Rob Markman, Jr.
00:36:41
Speaker 1: Thanks.
00:36:41
Speaker 3: Nigga's would rather shoot you. We used to.
00:36:45
Speaker 2: Be looking for a plug, like, I'm going to get some money. These niggas looking for a nigga to shoot for the money.
00:36:50
Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah.
00:36:51
Speaker 3: That's different, bro.
00:36:52
Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.: When you in the jungle, you got different species. You know what I'm saying? And some niggas, that's they nature, bro. You feel me? I'm a player, bro. I wake up every day and find ways to get money, get pussy. You know what I'm saying? Look for little fly spots to take a vibe to. I'm going to proactively pursue certain things. And there's niggas that will proactively pursue putting your dick in the motherfucking dirt, bruh. Get a thrill, get a howl, get gratification out of that. You know what I'm saying?
00:37:24
Speaker 3: It's always been that, but it's just more now.
00:37:26
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, the bullshit is just more magnified than the other shit.
00:37:30
Speaker 3: If you get what I'm saying.
00:37:31
Speaker 1: It's like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:32
Speaker 3: It's always... Everything ain't nothing new up under the sun. It's just more of that. And it's like, I don't see a nigga winning in that shit.
00:37:40
Speaker 1: I just don't. I see a nigga get some money.
00:37:43
Speaker 3: But I just seen a nigga today, man. A nigga, Tay. This is a good nigga, bro.
00:37:46
Speaker 1: Good nigga, bro.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: Good nigga, but he be wearing that jersey.
00:37:49
Speaker 2: You tell him a nigga just followed him home and shot him in his shit. You know, killed two niggas, paralyzed a nigga, and two niggas got away with his shit.
00:37:56
Speaker 1: Goddamn.
00:37:57
Speaker 3: This is a player nigga. Like, player, good. There ain't no black-ass nigga like a light-skinned nigga.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:38:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They gonna try to kill this nigga last night. Night before last.
00:38:08
Speaker 1: Oh, bro. I mean, yo, bro, like, like, I don't know. I think shit always been like, I think that element, but she be different, different places. I don't know. I feel like my era, we was more on that type of timing than the young niggas in my section now. Rob Markman, Jr.: Okay, yeah. We speaking from different sections.
00:38:33
Speaker 3: I get what you saying.
00:38:33
Speaker 1: But I ain't going to lie, that's how I got introduced to the street for real. Every nigga was trying. That was a test of heart. Me too. You know what I'm saying? It was just us, though. We were the only ones doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was tuned in, nigga. I was tuned in. I watched all them old duct tape videos. I'm like, hey, boy, these niggas look like the goons from the 80s, nigga. You feel me? Like, y'all wasn't on all the Versace, Versace shit. Y'all was on some different shit. Y'all was on some different shit. But like, yeah, bro, I was just like, That's how I look at it. Just like the joke, you got different species. Me, I'm a hustler, bro. And I'm a hustler that's capable of getting on gangsta shit. But everything gangsta ever did came from a nigga like interfering with my progress. You know what I'm saying? I'm not necessarily no instigator. You feel me? Like I ain't playing offense. Everything defense. Either I'm defending myself or I'm defending my name because a nigga done played. You know what I'm saying? All right, nigga.
00:39:35
Speaker 3: That shit hard. Hey, how you come up with that shit? Or that's some shit y'all say down your way?
00:39:39
Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie. Like, oh. I was really just riding in the whip. I think I just bust a lick or something like that. You know what I'm saying? So I'm in traffic. I'm listening to the beats on YouTube. I ran across that bitch, dog. And you know, the way that I ride, I just be mumbling, like mumbling like the flow kind of before I got the words. And then something just told me to say, I'm a type of nigga. I always got some motion. Then I had to make the shit make sense. Then that's how you get out and done it all. Hustle frog, window post. I just kept ripping that bitch, you know what I'm saying, while I was sliding. And then I went and laid that bitch down, bro. You know what I'm saying? My partner Kano, I was sending him all my music. He real good friends with the nigga Ross. So before that bitch even had traction, Ross had already heard it, fell in love with it, and got behind that bitch. But that shit really just like, you know what I'm saying? That's just a side of the perspective of a street nigga from St. Pete that's in them lanes, you know what I'm saying? That's doing that shit.
00:40:40
Speaker 2: Was there ever a time you were like, man, fuck this rap shit?
00:40:45
Speaker 1: Not really, bro. Like, as a shorter, you know what I'm saying? I remember when I made my first mixtape, I ain't really, you know, like rapping in person kind of different from getting in a booth. And like, bro, I was so trashed as far as just like laying my shit down and everybody was saying my shit was Buddha. I was like discouraged, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, I can't help it, though. Like, if I hear five beat, I start fucking with it. I think of punchlines and shit. Sometimes I listen to other niggas songs and be like, man, I would have did this instead of that. You know what I'm saying? It's just in me, not on me. So once I accepted that, I can't really not do it.
00:41:22
Speaker 3: And it's a part of your purpose, yeah?
00:41:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. My whole mission just became making the adjustments and becoming good enough for it to work. But I ain't going to lie, I never laid down on that shit for real. Omerta. Omerta, yo.
00:41:37
Speaker 3: Where you get that word from?
00:41:39
Speaker 1: You know, that's mafia lingo.
00:41:40
Speaker 3: Nah, for sure.
00:41:41
Speaker 1: That's mafia lingo. Code of silence. I had made a song which ended up being named on Merthyr. You know what I'm saying? But when I first made the song, it kind of put me in a mood like All Eyes On Me by Tupac. You know what I'm saying? The ganged up nigga. Boss nigga. You feel me? Just dropping them jewels. And then I remember I was talking to my little brother and he was like, what you gonna name this bitch? Because he had made the beat. They're like, what you going to name this bitch? And you know, like I wanted to name him Mafioso, but like that terminology was so played out. The way I was like, I'm going to name that bitch on Murtha. I'm going to name it on Murtha. And he was like, well, what that mean? And when I read the definition to him by how it's like, you know, code of silence, keep your things within the family. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's hard. Why they going to say that already? And then like, we just started using that bitch. Like the clique just started using that bitch. We having a myrtha parties, we got a myrtha tattoos. It just ended up being like the theme, you know what I'm saying? Especially around that time. So, you know, like we use it because that's how we were living. You know what I'm saying? That's what we believe in and what we pushing. What's your biggest value?
00:42:55
Speaker 3: Like, do you think your biggest value is the one you stand on the most?
00:43:03
Speaker 1: I mean, like my basic, I feel like basically the way that I navigate the world and navigate life, where I try to be a benefit or a blessing, everybody I come in contact with, I don't really... That's it. If I look at the most common denominator in every interaction, whether it be business in the inner street, business in the streets, or even if it ain't business, even if it's just in passing, I don't really like... taking more than I'm giving. You know what I'm saying? Or like, like, like, like doing bad business and fucking people over, you feel me? Like, why I say I'm a hustler that's capable of getting on games and shit, but I don't never, like, come at anybody with sanity with, like, bad intentions. You know what I'm saying?
00:43:53
Speaker 2: What does loyalty mean to you? You know everybody got their own definition of everything. What's the meaning of loyalty to you?
00:43:59
Speaker 1: Loyalty to me? Never go against this shit. It ain't got to be like no OD necessarily, but it's like, bro, you know, if a nigga, somebody come around talking crazy about me defending a nigga's name, if somebody applying on a nigga and you could do something to prevent that, or maybe you don't got the heart to prevent that, but you could put me on game the way I can move different, you know what I'm saying? I feel like if you loyal, you supposed to be in the nigga corner, you should be a plus sign, you know what I'm saying? It ain't got to be no over the top like, O.D. shit, but it's just like, you know what I'm saying? Stand on business when it come to me and my name. Yeah, my well-being, my livelihood, you know what I'm saying? Keep a nigga straight.
00:44:48
Speaker 3: I mean, the chances you get people you love.
00:44:50
Speaker 1: Two motherfucking minutes. But I ain't gonna lie, like, I'm a little bit, you know, I'm a little bit swift. I'm more swift with the scissors now than I used to be. Because the way that it used to work, but I ain't going to lie, like how I felt about you, it was hard for me to change how I felt about you. But then it's like I just been forced into some situations where it's like the people who I used to have to go out and give all them chances to, people who I used to have to tone down my shine because I knew they were hating it. I didn't want to necessarily ignite the envy and shit like that.
00:45:29
Speaker 3: That's crazy you said that.
00:45:30
Speaker 1: Go ahead. All them people ended up gone anyway. Yeah. So it's like you putting all.
00:45:36
Speaker 3: This- He said, ignite the envy.
00:45:38
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a shit. That's the truth, bro. A nigga try not to make a nigga hate. Yeah, yeah. I was doing that. That shit fucked up, bro. I was doing that, bro.
00:45:47
Speaker 3: He be like, bro, I don't want a nigga to hate, bro.
00:45:49
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring this up. I was doing that. It might be something as simple as a nigga show me a bitch on Instagram. And then I'm like, damn, that hold my inbox. I was thinking about striking a head, but dog gonna feel like I, you know what I'm saying? It could be something that simple. So it's like, yeah, yeah. But it's like, for me, all the people that I used to give all the chances to, they ended up by the wayside anyways. You really internally be knowing Like who real and if the vibe on point, you know what I'm saying? Instinctively, you know that, but as humans, we got logic and we be letting this motherfucker override the heart sometimes. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, yeah, I feel like by me going through that, while I was sparing niggas, giving niggas chances, and seeing that the end result was still a fallout, it make me, It made me more, you feel me, final about that shit.
00:46:53
Speaker 3: You think as a nigga someone's blaming you for what he don't got?
00:46:56
Speaker 1: All the time, nigga. That shit all the time. I don't give a fuck no more. I used to care about that kind of shit.
00:47:00
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I used to plead my case like, damn, my nigga, I did this, I did that.
00:47:06
Speaker 1: What you mean I ain't a real nigga? What you mean I'm a fuck nigga? Like, bro, I ain't doing that pussy ass shit no more. I ain't doing that pussy ass shit no more fucking niggas, bro. It's like, bro, it ain't no nigga on planet earth other than my fucking daddy that did more for me than I did for them. So it's like at the end of the day, we got the same 24 and a nigga look at you like you lucky or something because you got more than him, but he had the same 24.
00:47:32
Speaker 2: And he not doing half of the shit you doing to get yours.
00:47:36
Speaker 1: I don't come from no silver spoon. There ain't nothing... There ain't no advantage that I got that fell from the sky, you feel me? If I hit the lotto or something and I just 10 M's up, I probably would give a nigga, you know what I'm saying? I could probably give out a couple gifts. But if you see me go out and get this shit every day, you sitting on your ass every day, you feeling tired of something that I got, I feel gayer than a bitch to actually acknowledge and adhere to that. Because at that point, like a nigga paying you to be their friend.
00:48:05
Speaker 2: That shit was easy though when I was getting that street money. That shit was coming so easy that I was letting it go easy. This shit, he'll come hard, so it's going to go easy.
00:48:12
Speaker 1: This shit ain't boring. I mean, this is the thing though. But like I said, I had to learn it because like, bro, like, I see niggas trick off on niggas like niggas do bitches, bro. Like, especially rap niggas. Because... They want their entourage to look good. So it's like, okay, I'm finna buy niggas chains. I'm finna buy niggas watches. And it's just, I feel like as a man, if you finna be in a club holding up your chump, your favorite short, all them jewels and shit, and you didn't work for that, it's kind of weird to me. Like, because like, you know, it's materialistic. It's ignorant a little bit, but like when I'm in a club and I'm on it, Nigga, I know what I had to do to get this. Now, I ain't saying my niggas can't turn me up, but it's like, bro, you got to come up with a hustle. You got to come up with something to where I can bless your game, bro, and I can turn you up because I know I got these resources and I'm going to support you, my nigga. We're going to get to it. But it's like, bro, if it ain't that, I really don't fuck with it because it's like, like I said, niggas are tricking off on niggas like they do these hoes because they want a certain image. So I'm going to get certain. kind of niggas around me that look cool, that look gangster. This nigga good at getting the bitches. This nigga kind of got a little gangster image or a little gangster reputation. So I'm going to recruit these niggas with the money rather than it being something genuine. You know what I'm saying? Just be like, I don't subscribe to that shit, bro. And that's why I say I'm grateful for the circle that I got now. Because it's like everybody got their own interests, their own skills. You know what I'm saying? And we can just turn each other up like that. Like, damn, bro, what a player. That's what you're trying to do? Bet. I'm going to connect the dots. You know, I know. Man, I got my nigga Stone up there in ATL. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how this all happened. I'm going to send real niggas through real things. So it's like, that's kind of more what it's about. And when I was on that timing, bro, like I said, those still ended up being the niggas I was falling out with. Because over time, you're going to get fed up with that shit. It'll be times I tell a nigga, no, I got it. It ain't about that, nigga. It's about the only time I hear from your pussy ass when you want something. So then it's like, now a nigga feel like a mark, bro. Now it's like, what you install?
00:50:36
Speaker 3: Soft hand press.
00:50:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what you install me or something, nigga? So if I don't give you the money, what you, like, we going to file out? What you going to do? Like, I'm supposed to be scared of you? It's just like, now a nigga just like own that shit for nothing. Like, you just own that shit. And it's just like, it just always end bad, bro. Like, the nigga that I fuck with who was genuine, Those niggas always found ways, even if they wasn't making what I was making or seeing the type of paper that I was, they always found ways to be men, bro. You know what I'm saying? And keep their affairs in order.
00:51:12
Speaker 3: Rob Markman, Jr.
00:51:15
Speaker 1: Damn.
00:51:16
Speaker 2: So dealing with them type of niggas, do that goddamn make you hesitant to just fuck with new niggas, or you welcoming people?
00:51:24
Speaker 1: I be welcoming people, but it's levels, though. Oh, for sure. It's levels though, you know what I'm saying? I ain't really looking for no new This shit down in the family at this point, you know what I'm saying? You ain't looking for a new family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can co-exist, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Associates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Associates like, okay, okay, that's buddy from who to who, he cool as fuck. Damn, what's up, my nigga boy? I see your boy, keep going. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I heard your new song. Yeah, that bitch hard, ain't it? You know what I'm saying? That type of shit. Yeah. But, you know, I just keep that kind of like in an associate space. I ain't saying like it ain't possible that I could meet somebody new. And, you know, over time, like they really, you know, end up having like some favor with me and shit like that. But I ain't in this shit looking for love, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm content, you know, as far as that go. And I feel like it's important to be content because when you thirsty, you make fucked up the shit.
00:52:25
Speaker 3: Nah, real shit. You fucked with Screed Hard, Scooter.
00:52:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. We were listening to that thing on the way up here, bro. Like, bro, I met Scooter in 2015 because I had booked him for a show. I was like, you know, he was always snapping with that finesse, and I had damn damn made that my whole motherfucking identity. Like, I had t-shirts that had that bitch on it, all kind of shit. The first time I ever tried doing a club or more thing, I brought that boy to the city. I paid him something like $ 2, 500. He did a feature, you know what I'm saying? Bless My Game and shit. And that was just a nigga that I was listening to heavy when I first started getting real paid. You know what I'm saying? There was a couple other niggas I was listening to, but he directly made me want to get money, bro. Real shit. Yeah. We ain't got that creative word. Bro, the nigga had count up all that shit. You know what I'm saying? But I played on the way up here, Columbia, 77 Birds. Put a nigga in that mode. That Jigga Thon intro. Yeah, yeah.
00:53:36
Speaker 3: Hey, what's something you still healing from?
00:53:39
Speaker 1: Damn. Hmm. Be honest with your water. I don't know. I be feeling like I'm here, but it's like compartmentalized shit, bro. I don't know, bro. I really just stay on go. I just stay busy, bro. And I get so much joy out of my work and where I'm going and what I'm doing. The way it's like, I honestly can't answer that question, bro. I'm none of a lot of shit. It'll probably just be, had to be something that like bite me into a corner. It's like, like, or like, like something that pop off and it revealed that I haven't healed from it. But I can't think of anything I'm conscious of.
00:54:26
Speaker 2: When you send to you, when you send by yourself or rhyme by yourself, you know how sometimes nigga ride without the music on.
00:54:31
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts?
00:54:33
Speaker 3: Like, what's some thoughts that you can't get out your mind? That's what you can hear from.
00:54:37
Speaker 1: See, I be, you know, I'm a slick therapist too, bro. Yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie, bro. Like, I'm obsessed with the mission, though. It never stops. So maybe that's stemming from something I need to hear from my own door. It never stops, bro. I'm going to put it like this, bro. I've been learned to put my all into the grind because the grind don't let you down. You get back what you put in and you don't get back what you put in out of people and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like That's my defense mechanism for real. Like, bro, like, it don't matter what a hoe do. It don't matter what a fart nigga do. Because I'm, like, I put the grind first. So it's like, shit, I don't think about that shit. So really, like, yeah, yeah. So I think, like, when I'm alone with my own thoughts, I never stop thinking about the mission. But that shit still from, like, disappointment that it came out of the hands of, you know, certain people I had love for at a time, like before I was, when I was naive enough to like, give my whole heart.
00:55:53
Speaker 3: So you made them your why?
00:55:55
Speaker 1: Like, not exactly. Yeah, yeah. When you really break it down, yeah. Like, you just made me break it down? Yeah, when you really break it down, dog, because it's like, like, bro, like, Like the nigga that told on me before, he told on me like, bro, I was beefing with niggas for the nigga. It wasn't nothing he couldn't ask me for without getting the shit. I remember one time a nigga can't ask me for 40 bands. I gave it to him. He ain't ask no questions. He asked me for the next 40 bands. Like, damn, that's 80. What you need this shit for? And I still gave it to him, bro. You know what I'm saying? So it's like on all levels, like I was on it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like if you thinking to yourself, damn, like a nigga told on me that I would have killed for him. possibly die for. Let's just say like a situation presented itself where that was the necessary means, you know what I'm saying, to keep bruh scared. I would've took it though. And a nigga probably would've been doing 20, 25 years for a nigga that couldn't do his own time.
00:56:58
Speaker 3: So it's like- Did you ever see the sign that he was that type of nigga?
00:57:00
Speaker 1: Or you didn't? We talking about it. I don't know what y'all feel too. I ain't gonna lie, bruh. Like, like, I felt like he stayed in his lane. He didn't do everything that I did in the streets. I never heard him doing no PBL type shit. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't think he was the toughest nigga, but I thought that, yeah, I thought he would have took his lick. It was other people around me that felt differently, but I just felt like he didn't get too deep into the street shit. We had the record label together. We had other clothing line and shit together. We had other business that we was more invested in. He got? Yeah, nigga went crazy.
00:57:50
Speaker 3: Oh, he lost his mind?
00:57:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. He serious lost his mind? Bro, he outed up, bro. You feel sorry for him? Not really. I feel like it was a result of what he did, bro. The thing about it, bro, You could thank that pussy shit you did, like you won and you got over, but it's like just the way the universe work, it got a weird way of equalizing shit. You know what I'm saying? I had to go through that time. That was a temporary situation. I got that time behind me. But it's like your face card and your mental shot forever. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you got some niggas that got the nerve to do that. You got some niggas that tell all your family to go home and lay next to they bitch like nothing happened.
00:58:42
Speaker 3: Man, you got some niggas get out and be stars.
00:58:44
Speaker 1: What you mean? You know what I'm saying? Get out and go up. It's just different. That's why before you make a decision, before you get in that water, my nigga, you got to know how you built it.
00:58:57
Speaker 2: You think a nigga that was deep in the streets, as deep as you was or whatever, can really.
00:59:04
Speaker 1: Leave them behind?
00:59:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:59:05
Speaker 1: I think that, I think for me, like, it just took, I wasn't necessarily strong enough to leave them behind without something I could give myself to that had a similar, you feel me? Like, okay, damn. You know, I'm starting to catch my little wave. These promoters here in my line talking about, Conor the Club, we got a band for you. I wouldn't give a fuck, nigga. 2,500, three bands. Damn, okay, if I do that three times a week. Yeah, let me get on. Like, damn, boy, how much to get you on this song? Damn, boy, how much to post this on your page? And then it's like, and it feel like I'm grinding because, you know, the street niggas are the ones fucking with me. So, bitch, I was in Charlotte. But I was just in Charlotte with Fetty P. Franklin. And, uh, My homegirl, Jazz Clutch, you know what I'm saying? But they what I am, you feel me? They hustlers, they street niggas, you know what I'm saying, in their section. So that's like when I touch down up there and I'm grinding with them and I'm collecting my little bags and doing my thing, it feel like the same shit when I used to get that bomb, bro. I'd be like, man, these country niggas on this side, they don't know what's going on. I'm finna go up to that bitch, set up a shop, you know what I'm saying, and let them know, like, hey, bitch, fuck with me. Like, which one of you niggas the most Know the most people in the city. Okay, you going to show me around this bitch. And then once we figure out who's who and what's what, I'm going to leave this bitch with you. Do your thing. Like, it feel the same way when I'm landing in Charlotte on that route shit. Then the next week I was in Houston. Them boys had me in third ward. No security. Just all the scruff of, you know what I'm saying, them know my background and how I rock. And then the next week, after that, Rose had the video shoot in Liberty City. We was off 18th Ave, you feel me? I forgot who they say used to be around that bitch. I don't remember if it was Boobie or John Doe. You know what I'm saying? But it was some Trent shit for sure. And it's just like, for me, the path that I paved as far as who appreciate my music, who relate to my music, like the type of niggas that show me love and like the way I'm received when I'm going city to city, it feel very similar to what I come from. You know what I'm saying? So for me, that's what it took. Having something I could replace it with that was equivalent. But I tip my hat to them niggas who, you know, cold turkey. You know what I'm saying? Just made that decision. But it's like, yeah, I feel like What it really be, bro? Nigga be a hustler, nigga be a boss, and utilizing their skill set or having certain themselves into that grind. And when that's all a nigga know, that's what a nigga think it gotta be. And really, if you shift that over to something legitimate, you'll be surprised how much of it really hit the same. You know what I'm saying? And then you can actually track your progress, because in the screen, it's like, I wouldn't give a fuck how much money you make. It's always a possibility that all that shit going to get derailed. 100%.
01:02:28
Speaker 2: You just said, I'll penetrate to get some game to the young nigga before we get out of here.
01:02:32
Speaker 1: You just did it. You got anything else you want to give him?
01:02:36
Speaker 3: No.
01:02:36
Speaker 2: I want you to give something to a little young hothead just jumping out the port, thinking that this shit's sweet or whatever, thinking that it's grave or whatever.
01:02:42
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Like, bro, you just got to kill all the noise, bro. I feel like that's the biggest thing. Like, pill presser and what a bitch think and what a bitch got to say or what's going on online. And you having FOMO or wanting to replicate something, you see the next thing a guy going on. You got to keep it real with yourself and figure out what it is you're here to do, what you're meant to be. And, you know, the streets are always hiring. I know niggas going to dabble. But, like, just do the math on that shit. And you're going to start realizing how much of this shit really ain't worth it. Thanks. But, like, in that era where I was doing all that hot work shit, bro, I'm really glad I made it out of there because it was niggas, dawg. Niggas I used to be in JDC with. I'd be calling myself thugging with, bro, who didn't make it out of that era. Niggas who still locked up in that bitch to this day. And even if they, at some point, they reach that level of consciousness to where they living different or they feel differently, they still suffering the consequences from the decisions that they made back then. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, bro, like, just no one to hold on, no one to fold on, don't crap out, bro. Niggas be catching these, like, I'm talking about, like, these dogs, these 25s, these thottas, bro. And it's like, You don't get a chance to even, you know, adjust your game and learn from your mistakes. I remember when I was in state prison, I had a smooth magazine. You remember the smooth magazine? It had them bad bitches in there, right? So I'm reading, like, the interview, one of these bad bitches, they doing an interview. And, you know, the whole just, you know, she just putting the readers up on what type of shit she like. So she naming like what type of lounges she want to go to. I think she said some shit about some shit called One Oak up there in New York. You know what I'm saying?
01:04:45
Speaker 3: Rob Markman Yeah, One Oak.
01:04:46
Speaker 1: They got one in LA too. Yeah, Manhattan, B & L, Roll Tide shit. I'm like, damn. My mind expanded. I'm like, damn. You talking about like what type of thread counter, gypsum sheets she like to lay on, nigga? I'm just like, damn. They say birds of a feather flock together. I'm looking at his magazine and I'm knowing that I'm a swift enough nigga. You feel me? To implement my game and actualize some of this shit this bad bitch talking about. Like, yo, I could have a bachelor pad and a motherfucking high rise nigga. You know what I'm saying? And have these different colognes on and have this different suave shit going on, like different welts, different dress code. I know I'm capable of it. Well, birds of a feather fly together, so I'm looking at the niggas that's in proximity of me. And they don't have these capabilities. So then that mean like, bro, you ain't, you really ain't internally, bro. Like you not really, you not really moving off your purpose. You know what I'm saying? A lot of them niggas that was in there, bro, they wasn't capable of much. And then like they outlet, or like the way that they vetted their frustration would be violence and different things that put them in those situations. So it's just like, and a lot of them niggas like had life sentences and shit like that. So it just took me being in that environment and realizing like this really ain't where it's at and I'm really capable of more. For me to get out and then it's like, you know, I still bump my head, but I bump my head in a different way. And then it's like, even for all I had to do was adjust my game a little bit more. You know what I'm saying? And I was able to achieve everything that I got going on right now. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, I know that temptation of motherfucking for her. Win, win, win, win. Bitch, it's even one month away from school starts and you ain't got no clothes. You know what I'm saying? When the motherfucking red dude and your mama damn near looking at you for when them lights getting cut off and shit like that. I know a nigga going to go for what they do. But to the best of your ability, my nigga, try not to crash out to where it's like as you learn from the game and you learn about life that you don't have the ability to pivot. Because there's a lot of them niggas that get lost in the system, dog. And even when they do have that actualization, it's not a reality for them to make no other decisions. Or a sign. That's probably what I would say. You got to keep real with your motherfucking self. Fuck with these other niggas got going on.
01:07:19
Speaker 3: And you, bitch.
01:07:20
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01:07:21
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01:07:24
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01:07:36
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