Coley: All right, welcome to
Zane: What's up everybody?
Coley: Offline Days, a podcast about the eighties and nineties where we just don't care about the new technology. I am your co-host Coley.
Ryan Mitchell: And my name is Ryan.
Coley: And and we have
Zane: And I am Zayn.
Coley: yeah, we got a very special guest here. Zane, why don't you tell everybody who you are, what you are, what you do.
Zane: Cool. Well my name is Zayn. I'll start off. I own Zane's Italian Bistro in Denver. I'm also a family man and I make crazy wild TikToks and Instagram videos that are all over the place.
Coley: They Yeah, they are funny. I love them. I I enjoy listening
Zane: Thanks, man.
Coley: to them and watching them.
Ryan Mitchell: We should do like
Zane: Appreciate
Ryan Mitchell: a little we should do like
Zane: you done this.
Ryan Mitchell: a little collab sometimes, you know, like a like a little collab insane video 'cause I got some good good improv ideas from time to time. I mean, we're comedians. I mean we can you know, make something cool.
Zane: Dude, where do you guys live? I mean, come by, man. We can make some good videos.
Coley: I'm
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Coley: I'm in Thornton, so I you know, I'm like thirty foot thirty five minutes from you, so and yours? Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: I'm yeah, I'm in I'm in Englewood, but I mean I'm I don't have kids, I don't have a family or anything. I'm just a lonely POS
Zane: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: so I can just I can I can make it happen any time. We actu
Zane: We always need actors and if you have ideas, even better, dude. I do I should I have a crazy idea for one coming up. I shouldn't say. I said. Yeah. But I
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, we can but I I can do
Coley: Don't say don't don't give any spoilers. Don't worry about it.
Zane: dude I I I did one yesterday where I set up a whole dining room in my freezer because the restaurant's
Coley: Ha ha.
Ryan Mitchell: cool.
Zane: 'cause it's too damn hot, so everyone's in my freezer. I leave it at a table, we're pouring wine. It's pretty funny.
Ryan Mitchell: I love it. I love it. Yeah. And we and we just and we just got I just bought these inter interview go mics where we can go out into big crowds and just do like street interviews with people. so we're kinda
Zane: I love that. I mean, I'll be your mic right now sounds so good.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, we got what are these are these are sure sure mics here. So I think they're you know probably a couple hundred bucks, but they they last forever and nice and nice and crispy. so it's it's exciting.
Zane: Very Christmas.
Ryan Mitchell: But yeah, so tell us, you know, offline days, you know, we're all about life before the internet. You've been in the restaurant game for a long time. So tell us the changes that you've seen kind of, you know. pre technology and now, not just in the technology, but people in general, like through the span.
Zane: Well, I don't know how much you want to go into the as labor cost is just through the roof, especially in Denver. And so people are utilizing technologies to get rid of employees to save
Ryan Mitchell: Right.
Zane: on the crazy labor. So it's kind of a thing fighting against each other. And that that's an unfortunate thing. So we're gonna lose jobs. All kinds of the personal human connection that happens, which is why we love to go to restaurants and bars. But that is going to restaurants are gonna become Counter service restaurants where you even click on iPads and don't even talk to servers and bartenders. That's good that's
Ryan Mitchell: my god.
Zane: a sad day, man. But it it's mixed with technology and price of labor. That's what's happening.
Coley: Yeah, I mean you look at McDonald's.
Ryan Mitchell: my god, I just I just threw up in my mouth.
Coley: Yeah. Like
Zane: Yeah. Yeah. Dude. There's a McDonald's and Parker that doesn't even have humans you see.
Coley: Yeah, it's crazy. They're all in the back. Like you d you don't do anything. You you go and you touch the screen and then eventually it just it someone brings it to the little counter and and there's zero human interaction. It's insane.
Ryan Mitchell: I love I I love to go to those places that have all the automation and then just walk up to the fucking front and just order. They're like, Did you Yeah, they're
Zane: They're like
Ryan Mitchell: like, Don't we have a sc
Zane: Can't you take my order?
Coley: Hm.
Ryan Mitchell: like there was a screen you were supposed to use back there and I'm like, Don't know how to do that. Can you just take my order plate?
Zane: And then the screen still says tip. Let's talk about that. I'm tipping a robot? What is happening?
Ryan Mitchell: Mm-hmm.
Coley: Yep. Who am I tipping?
Ryan Mitchell: Just the tip is what I'll give them. That's all. That is all. That is all.
Coley: Just a test.
Zane: Dude. Can we do just a tip? That's all I got.
Ryan Mitchell: Sh
Coley: Right?
Ryan Mitchell: So what's what's the backstory to the the restaurant, Zane's kind of Italian restaurant? What's the backstory to that? Like I I have
Zane: So I've I grew up in the business. my family owned a restaurant called the Broker Restaurant and a couple other ones. And I just kind of grew up doing it. I moved to New York City to pursue acting and realized, you know what, this is really whatever, it wasn't working out. I bartended there and came back and say, I'm really good at running a restaurant. And so I became a GM. Then I worked for years to try to open my own place and bought a little pizzeria and kind of made it into a nicer version of the pizzeria and named it named it Zane's. There's a there's a lot more details to that story, but that's the that's the quick version. Yeah. I
Coley: That's the gist. I like it.
Zane: failed opening a restaurant so many times where I thought I was going to and finally, after years of a lot of heartache and pain, got it done.
Coley: That's awesome, man.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Coley: And I I then I I just I I envy you because I know the restaurant business can just be brutal and and and just it's all the things that go into getting a restaurant to run and and everything that you do. And so that's awesome that you've that you've done it for so long, as long as you've done it, and
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: I think that's great.
Zane: I mean things break all the time. Most restaurants have problem with staffing. I don't have that problem, but that's usually one of the main problems. But you know, we're selling a product that goes bad, shit breaks. Customers are amazing and customers are not amazing. Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: Ooh. Speak speaking of that, that made me think of something that's kind of pertinent to before and after. You know, like back in the day you didn't have these review platforms, right?
Zane: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: so so what is what is it like just living in living and dying by just reviews versus back then when you just that wasn't even a thing?
Zane: Well, I'll be the people that think their reviews do so much, they do not do as much as they think they do. When
Ryan Mitchell: Okay.
Zane: I kick out a customer for being rude, I'm always like, I'll read your review later tonight, which actually usually gets them to not not write one, but I think it's reviews are an overall image. If you have mostly good, that's what matters, right? Not
Ryan Mitchell: Right.
Zane: your one review that you had a bad experience doesn't do shit. If there's a lot of bad reviews on a restaurant, there's a there's a reason there.
Ryan Mitchell: Right.
Zane: But yeah, it can it's funny, I don't know if you guys know who Nick the Food dude is. He's a huge local food TikTok Instagram guy. He was just here like an hour ago, but him and I had a video that went totally viral together. We were in a fight, and like 20 people wrote bad Google reviews that I wouldn't let him film in there. I'm like, it's a fucking joke. So
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: that was kind of interesting. We got in a fight, but it's totally staged.
Coley: She
Ryan Mitchell: That's great.
Zane: And so the f I'm like, you have time to write a Google review, but you didn't have time to finish the video? What what happened?
Coley: Ha ha.
Ryan Mitchell: my god.
Coley: Well that just shows the attention span of humans where it's like,
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: This is you know, this is what I see. It looks like I'm something doing something and I don't necessarily know what it is, and I'm gonna skip it because I don't like it. And then I'm gonna write a review. Yeah.
Zane: And but then I'm gonna go write a Google review about it. Yeah. But I mean, you know, a lot of those reviews I I take it with a grin. I don't I don't put a lot of thought into unless it's consistently if I'm seeing the same review, that service over and over, and you know, then I'm like, okay, we got a problem here. But one review like the best lasagna we've ever had, and then man, that lasagna was terrible. It's like what
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: you know.
Coley: It it is interesting, Ryan. You kind of bring up that point of like how restaurants kind of thrived in the 90s was really by reputation and people bringing you back bringing back to what it is. And yes, that's still yes, and that still
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. Word of mouth, you know.
Zane: Yeah. Real word of mouth. Yeah.
Coley: kind of exists, but at the same time, that
Zane: It does.
Coley: but yeah, you have that red you have the Reddit and you have the Google and and it's just yeah, it's a it's different. Yeah.
Zane: Does anyone still yelp? Does anyone still yelp?
Ryan Mitchell: I was about to say something about Yelp. That is like where people that are like it's like where reviews go to die, basically, is what
Zane: I I used to check our Yelp reviews and I don't I haven't checked in forever, dude. Google reviews are really rare. And also Google always tells me when I get a review, so I check but but yeah, I haven't checked Yelp reviews in forever.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, Yelp's bullshit, I think. It's it's
Coley: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: 'cause I'd every time I look at like I'll look at like a Yelp review and it's like of a restaurant and it's like we'll say it's two point five and then I'll go to the Google review and it's like three point eight. So I think Yelp
Zane: That's interesting.
Ryan Mitchell: Yelp is just like the extra disgruntled people will say.
Zane: I think so too. Did you are you guys South Park fans?
Ryan Mitchell: Love South Park.
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: Do you remember the Yelper reviewer episode where everyone's entitled? So fucking funny.
Coley: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: I do not remember that one.
Zane: So funny.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. But if you know
Coley: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: Trey, we'd love to have him on the podcast.
Zane: Hey man. I hate to keep bringing
Ryan Mitchell: I tried
Zane: it up, but I have a a v I had a TikTok where I f I had ma glasses on and I wanted
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: to see if I can get into Cosmania without a reservation and has it has like almost a million views. I'm like, what if Matt and Trey Parker have seen this? I don't know if they have, but maybe. You never know, dude.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. I mean you never know. You never know. You know what I mean? I mean you're in Colorado, like anything can happen. so I'm like,
Zane: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: I tried to set I tried to I tried to slip into the the Instagram DMs, but I got like a you're not important enough like reply back.
Zane: yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: I'm like, okay, well, okay.
Coley: Actually, Zane, I commented you had a you had a thing when the abs were in the playoffs, you had like a video where they were talking, you asked who's gonna win and how many games or something like that. And I was
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: I responded like abs in five or something like that. And Gabe Landesgog actually liked that comment. On your video, yeah.
Zane: Video? I never knew that dude you should have told me. That's sick dude.
Ryan Mitchell: Who is that?
Zane: Wait, what series was it? Yeah.
Coley: He he's what he's one of the abs.
Ryan Mitchell: Okay.
Coley: god, I think it was one that I think it was the one that we like lost. It was it was the it was
Zane: Got a bomb.
Coley: yeah, it was it was against the knights and it was awful. No, no.
Zane: He's never gonna respond to one of my videos again. Fuck. That's sick, dude.
Coley: I think he responded like after the seas like I think like I think I got a notification like maybe three or four weeks after the season had ended, and it was like, Gabe Land is gone.
Zane: Because that's when he has time to fucking do it. That's hilarious.
Coley: Yeah, right? He was like, Gabe Landisgog likes your comments. And I was like, what? That's amazing. It was his official. Yeah, I clicked on it and I was like, my god, this is real. Right?
Zane: That's and it was like official page. It wasn't some weird Yeah. I don't know if someone would copy his page though. Maybe. Maybe.
Ryan Mitchell: It was it wasn't his OnlyFans page.
Coley: It might have been his OnlyFans page.
Zane: He's got a good OF page, dude. It is entertaining.
Ryan Mitchell: Mm.
Zane: He pulled the goalie
Ryan Mitchell: Moise, I'm always
Zane: long ago on that page.
Coley: Ha ha ha
Ryan Mitchell: that's funny. Well, speaking of hockey, I'm from North Carolina and we gotta give it up for the hurricanes. They yeah.
Coley: Yeah, yeah, they
Zane: Yeah, man. I mean they played great, dude. Played great.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, we I don't think w I don't think we'd won one since two thousand six. So it was
Coley: I was gonna say it seemed like it's been a while since you guys I mean it had been a while since the abs had won one and twenty since twenty twenty two. So I mean it just although
Ryan Mitchell: my god, yeah, it must have been
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: to be fair, I kinda like it that it's spaced out. I mean I don't want twenty years, but I do kinda like it that it's spaced out and it's not the same team every time. Unlike baseball.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: Well, hockey switches around a lot more than yeah. Exactly. Do you guys do you does anyone actually watch baseball?
Ryan Mitchell: Is it on TV?
Zane: I think it sometime airs on TV. Now going to the
Coley: Two
Zane: game is fun. That's a different story.
Ryan Mitchell: I'll go to the game and fucking drink drink
Coley: Okay.
Ryan Mitchell: seven beers and have a great time, you know?
Coley: Okay. Okay, but
Zane: But that's why the Mumfords make money because we love to go to that stadium and they built it a cool bar in deck.
Coley: So bad. This is this is my ro this is my Rockies hat that's not a Rockies hat because it's a taco.
Zane: from afar I thought it was the old school Avs hat.
Coley: no, it's definitely a rock it's a it's an it's a taco hat. It's do
Zane: It's a Rocky taco. I don't know if that's the taco you wanna eat, man.
Coley: you remember do you remember when you would have
Ryan Mitchell: Ha ha ha.
Coley: to have you get seven runs and you would get free tacos?
Zane: Yes. Yeah. No.
Coley: Yes, they don't do it anymore. There was a there was a there was a point when it was like you got three free tacos when the Rockies scored seven runs. And then by
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: the by the time I was in college, it was like you had to buy a drink and cinnamon twisties and then you got your free tw your free tacos to go along with it.
Ryan Mitchell: Get the fuck out of here with that shit, Jesus.
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: But I wanna I wanna fly back on the the the baseball going to the game versus watching it on TV. So you know with the pitch clock they they you know they sped the game up a lot. It it totally
Zane: Which helps, right? For TV.
Coley: it totally helps for TV. It sucks when you're there. Cause they just they found out that they didn't couldn't make as many beer sales because the game was going so fast. So now they they cut the
Zane: I'm sure I didn't.
Coley: they cut the they cut the beer off in the eighth and a half inning and not the seventh and a half inning where it's like You're like, okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It was
Zane: that but you're right. I bet you that her I mean that's where Rockies make their money, dude. That's that's interesting actually. But speaking of nineties, do you did you go to the Rockies games in the nineties when they were brand new? Bro, do you know?
Coley: I I did a
Zane: Like that that stadium was like the highest sold stadium for a couple of years. It was it was a matchup.
Coley: I know. I had to look it up because they said that they in I wanna say it was like ninety-four, had the it was like the Rockies average ticket sales was like I think what does it hold? Like forty-five, is that what it holds or something like that?
Zane: Yeah, but it's like one of the best selling seasons of all time or something.
Coley: And it would it was averaging like forty-two, forty-three thousand tickets a game. And
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: and and now you look at it, and yeah, I mean they they live have literally taken an entire section out of it so they can make a bar.
Zane: Right.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: Right. Isn't that interesting? It's crazy.
Coley: I went to the inaugural when they played the Marlins in in ninety-three. I have I have the ball that's the inaugural.
Zane: sick.
Coley: yeah. man. That was yeah, that was w and then that was when there was hope for the Rockies with the Blake Street bombers.
Zane: Yeah. Do you did you go to any Zephyr's game?
Coley: No, no, I didn't go to Zephyr's games.
Zane: I remember going to his Evers game as a kid. I was I was young.
Ryan Mitchell: What was that the minor league team or
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: Might yeah, we had a
Coley: It was
Zane: minor called the Zephyrs. I mean, dude, this is like eight late eighties. I was like five.
Coley: But yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: We had a
Coley: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: ours was the Gre or the Greensboro Bats. So it was a farm team for the Yankees and we had like Jeter and a bunch of people like that that played. Yeah, like back back in the fucking day. Yeah, it was real cool. So yeah.
Coley: that's cool.
Zane: shit. That's crazy dude. That's cool. Yeah, you
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: no idea what was who he was gonna become. It's nuts.
Coley: Right?
Ryan Mitchell: mean you just you never know. So what
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: You never know.
Ryan Mitchell: so what was what was you know, I'm gonna get your perspective. What was it like, you know, high school like in Colorado like in the nineties? Like what was the what was the vibe?
Zane: I mean, so I not I graduated in 03. So I guess I was only in high school for one year in the nineties. But I mean,
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: it was, you know, it was angst, man. It's funny, I was watching that Woodstock 99 documentary on Netflix and just met the angst and the music and like do you remember that dude? That vibe with Limp Biscuit and porn and shit. Just the angry fucking rock.
Coley: I I remember the Woodstock ninety nine. Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: yeah.
Zane: I love that fucking shit.
Ryan Mitchell: Dude, limp
Zane: Love it.
Ryan Mitchell: I love some some old school Limp Biscuit, you know, like
Zane: Same and
Ryan Mitchell: they had that song with they even got Method Man from Wu Tang on one of their one of their songs. It was super
Zane: Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: super dope.
Coley: Mm-hmm.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. But I guess not I mean,
Zane: Yeah,
Ryan Mitchell: I I guess high school was the question, but also like, you know, you're middle school too. So it's like, you know, it's always interesting to to to see what life was like pre internet and different geographies of the world, you know, like The music, the vibe, like did you have a pager? Did you you know
Zane: I never had a pager, my sister did. But I
Ryan Mitchell: Okay.
Zane: I never had a pager. I remember having the Nokia cell phone and the razor. But Yeah. And the razor, but I never had a pager.
Coley: I had the Nokia cell phone.
Ryan Mitchell: Okay.
Zane: Did you have a pager? I don't think I was old enough and then cellphones started to become relevant, you know.
Ryan Mitchell: I mean I I graduated in two thousand, so I'm only three years three years older, but I did in fact have a pager. I I wish I could find like a picture of Yeah.
Zane: But you were right on that cusp, right? That's when my sister graduated too, where I wasn't gonna have a pager at twelve.
Coley: Mm-hmm.
Ryan Mitchell: That's true.
Zane: And then I you know and then I finally got I think my first album was sixteen, which back then that was early. And now now kids get at nine or eight. It's crazy.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. And do you have kids?
Zane: I have a eight and a ten year old, yeah. And so
Ryan Mitchell: So how do you how do you how do you manage their technology kind of you know, coming of age?
Zane: Well, it's tough, man. we try to limit it as much as we can to like forty-five minutes a day.
Ryan Mitchell: Mm-hmm.
Zane: our oldest daughter has my wife's old cell phone, but it only connects to Wi Fi. You know, it doesn't
Ryan Mitchell: Okay, that's cool.
Zane: I she can't use it everywhere. But it's it's funny, dude. Back in the day, back in our day in the nineties, the bigger the screen, the cooler it was. We wanted a big screen TV. And my kids don't even want to wat they would rather watch on
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: this little fucking thing than on this giant TV I have for him.
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: You know? And I bought him a Nintendo Switch for fun. Just think thought they'd be like, cool. And they're like, what do you do with it? I'm like, you played video games with it. What are you talking about?
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: I wanted an I begged my parents for a Nintendo, but they would rather play video games on here that aren't as good.
Coley: Yeah. You know what I just found in my basement? I just found my Game Boy. The original
Ryan Mitchell: Ooh.
Zane: Dude.
Coley: Game Boy, the big brick that was that was black and white. Yeah, it was
Zane: Yeah, you have the break. Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: yeah.
Coley: this was even before the color. That's that was my Nintendo system growing up. I didn't have a Nintendo system until that N64 came out and I was like 17. When I was a kid, I got to play like whenever we were on trips or whenever we were on a like a like a road trip is when I could take the take my Game Boy out. And so it was it was it was interesting to like pull that out and and see how big it is compared to like this. I mean Yeah, you do one game at a time and yeah.
Zane: Yeah. And it could only do eight or eight bit, whatever it's called. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, does it still work?
Coley: Yeah, gotta replace the batteries, but it totally works. Mm-hmm. I know. I was
Zane: That's sick, dude. That that's awesome. Do you have any games?
Ryan Mitchell: Mm.
Coley: Yeah, I have Ker I have the Kirby game. Do you remember that one? Where you yeah,
Zane: Yeah, huh.
Ryan Mitchell: I don't remember.
Coley: and then I have Bo it was Bo Jackson's where you
Ryan Mitchell: Mm.
Zane: Legends.
Coley: where you played both You would play ba you could either play baseball or football on a
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: as the game.
Ryan Mitchell: Nice.
Coley: So y but you were always Bo Jackson.
Zane: that that's crazy dude and it was like that or Tetris, right? Or Mario. So fun. That's cool.
Coley: Yeah, yeah, I never ha I never had Tetris. I mean I played Tetris all the time, but I never Tetris was
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: I think Tetris was like the game that came with with the Game Boy.
Zane: I think so, yeah.
Coley: And then I never played it because Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: They're like, This one kinda sucks, so we'll just kinda like y let you have it, you know?
Zane: It kinda sucks, but it's kind of addicting. Yeah.
Coley: It's so addicting. And
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, yeah.
Coley: th that's why all of us who are our age have issues when it comes to packing the back of a car and we're really good at it and and we're like, wait, no, I I got this. I got this. Like don't don't touch it.
Zane: yeah. Yep. Exactly. That's hilarious.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. Yeah. What what was it you you talked about, I kinda wanna touch a little bit on you talked about trying to like act and kinda, you know, do some stuff in New York. Like what was what was that like?
Zane: it would dude, it was a huge part of my life. It taught me a lot. I wish I had the guts that I do now back then. But
Ryan Mitchell: Mm.
Zane: you know, like I would know where to go or do but I would chicken out a lot or not have, you know, I care about what others thought. I'd look stupid or this and that. I wish I could have my mentality now back then, if that makes sense. But I mostly just worked in restaurants.
Coley: Mm-hmm.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. Do you remember like different any like specific roles or things that you would try to like audition for? Was it like anything specific or like just T V shows or you know?
Zane: T V shows, soap opera, commercials, things like that. law and order, extra, stuff like that. But
Ryan Mitchell: Love long.
Zane: it yeah.
Coley: You you know what sucks about our generation? And Ryan, you probably see this too, with with your family and and just in general, is like we we were a we were a generation that was taught that you need to have a job and you need to have stability. And if you have that stability, then you're gonna have the life that you want. And so it's like that was the
Zane: Right.
Coley: same that was the same thing for me too. I tried to be a stand-up comedian when I was 21. And There was no stability in it. And I was like, I need to get a real job. Like I need to I need
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: to do something that that pays. Because and it's like we never had that we never had that struggle because that we saw our we saw a family members that were like, I get a paycheck every day, I go home, I have a house, I would mow my lawn. I you know, I watch TV and everything that I've that I've made in my life goes into my house and that's what I have. And that's that's the mentality that we never had that like you need to struggle in order to be able to if you want something that you really want to do. And that's why I I had to I
Zane: Yeah. So I know we're talking a lot about anti-technology, but that's one thing that's great about technology is with TikTok and Instagram, you can control it a little bit more. And we have a little more power rather than I don't know how dirty I can be, but like having to suck your way up to the top, you know, like
Coley: Totally.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: some actors and shit do. We have the
Ryan Mitchell: Mm-hmm.
Zane: power to to kind of put ourselves out there on our own instead of waiting for some big executive.
Coley: a hundred percent.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: To give you the go, you know what I mean? You
Ryan Mitchell: It's
Zane: usually have to get lucky. You still do, don't get me wrong, but you can take a little bit of power into your hands.
Coley: And and that's what and that's what I've done and and and I feel like Ryan, you you you've seen me do that, is like
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Coley: we you know, I have a running I I took initiative, I sent out probably a hundred emails to different breweries and restaurants and be like, Hey, you need a stand-up comedy night. And it's like and I got one and now I have a running show every month where I get four comedians
Zane: Awesome.
Coley: to go do this, and yeah, I mean like it's And and this is kinda like, you know, w one of the things about comedy is it's it's a huge networking business. And you and and getting to know
Zane: Absolutely.
Coley: people is huge. And that's the reason that open mic you know, things around Colorado exist, but it had see, I'm also a dad and I you know, I I have my daughter, I'm a divorced dad, and so it's like I had d my schedule is is wonky at best. And so it's like trying to get
Zane: Mm-hmm.
Coley: to open mics is a lot harder. So I kinda had to do a different route in enables it.
Zane: Smart.
Coley: But that you're right. You need to like we have that control now, which is great.
Zane: It's cool. Yeah, there's there's good and bad things that have come out with it. You know,
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, yeah.
Zane: actually we live in a safer time than ever, but we actually just know more about it because if something
Coley: Yes.
Zane: happens, we find out about it immediately.
Coley: Hundred percent. Hundred percent.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. I I I wanna do a bit a co
Zane: You know.
Ryan Mitchell: a comedy bit talking about I wanna thank Steve Jobs for giving me one device where I can see all the horrible shit that happens around the world all from one central location. Thank you, Steve.
Coley: Right.
Ryan Mitchell: You know Yeah. No wonder
Zane: Thank you, Steve. So true. And now I'm paranoid and won't let my kids. You know, back in our day, we would go, I'd walk a mile to McDonald's on my own. I would never let my kid do that. And they
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: can they could have a device in their pocket that can they can check in with me. We were we were out there, baby. We were just out there. We were just out there.
Coley: Yeah. Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, we were out there. And there's there's something there's something to be said for that too. Like just the it's the freedom that we had that allowed us to kind of give us some confidence early, right? Versus kind of like this day and age where kids are a little bit more sheltered, you know, and looking at screens all the time. They don't I don't I don't think they have that world grit like we had, like out and about. You
Zane: That's good point too. Yep.
Ryan Mitchell: know what I mean?
Zane: Yep. They're not gonna, yeah. They're gonna they're gonna be paranoid and worried and and relying on others or relying on the device where we would just go and some shit happened, you're on your own. You better figure it out. You know, dude. You fall down, scraping
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, yeah. And that's
Zane: your knee, you're a mile away from home. Better figure out how to get home.
Coley: Okay.
Ryan Mitchell: Run out of gas in Utah? I mean, you know.
Zane: Yeah yeah, exactly. You know
Coley: Been there for both of those.
Ryan Mitchell: You need to ask a a a a a a nice Hells Angels biker to to to to help help you not murder you and it
Coley: Holding onto the back of a hell's angels.
Zane: Is that a real story? I
Coley: No, but that'd be great.
Ryan Mitchell: No, I but I almost did br I almost did break down
Zane: bet you the guy would actually help out more than people think. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Coley: Totally. Absolutely.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, w when you log on and you look at your news and everything, like it's easy just to just think the world is ending, you know, like every time you
Zane: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: look at it. So, you know, that's why it's tough and you almost have to have at least parents around that can help limit that or just put a fresh perspective in their kids' eyes that hey, this is just it's like one of those what are the one of those reflector horror houses where you see like you you see the mirror and it's just like, my God. That's what that's what like technology and social media is. It's like a fun house of just like the society's kind of shadow self, so to speak. You know what I mean? so
Zane: Exactly. I know exactly what you mean. Yep.
Ryan Mitchell: yeah. But it'll be interesting now with AI, you know, we talk about AI and I always see how it's affecting like newly new new college graduates, how how they're not able to get jobs is easy because AI is automating like a lot of the entry level jobs. So I'm like, what are degrees gonna be like when y'all's kids like go to college? Like what is gonna what what what's it gonna look like, you know? I mean
Zane: It's gonna be crazy. Yeah. I don't think people realize people are writing business proposals, medical, I don't know, all synopsis, like all kinds of crazy things with AI. Then the person
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: that gets that extremely important document has AI read it
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Zane: and then responds with AI and back and forth, where they're
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: only getting like the the just the highlights of it. And then sending it back with AI. Like AI is it's wild.
Ryan Mitchell: I mean, we're we're at a turning point here where we I mean, I don't know if there's any ever been a time like this in the past hundred years where we're at such a turning point of all this and not knowing how it's gonna shake down, you know?
Zane: I mean when the internet was invented?
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, no,
Coley: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: definitely the internet. But I've
Zane: Same feelings, yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: I feel like with with AI though, like with the power of AI, it's like it's not just us in the United States. You gotta think about the other countries like China or or or like potential
Coley: Okay.
Ryan Mitchell: bad, you know, characters. It's like, you know,
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: So here's the question. Yeah,
Ryan Mitchell: could it be weaponized? Could could it be this? Could it be that?
Zane: Absolutely.
Coley: here's the question. Is is AI the equivalent to Y2K where it was Everybody thought that it was gonna be the downfall of technology just kind of spiraling because they had no idea what was gonna happen. Because what was the the original thing of Y2K, they even explained in an office space where it's like instead of saying 1999, they just said 99, 98, 97. And so when it hit to 2000, it was like all of a sudden the they thought the computers were gonna freak out because of all the coding that they did.
Zane: I never made it that way, yeah. I think AI is gonna be I mean,
Coley: Yeah.
Zane: obviously hindsight's hard to say because nothing happened with Y2K, but AI the power is the power is endless, dude. Who knows?
Coley: It I mean it's amazing what it does and it's amazing what you can do with it. I mean there's the joke of kids saying that there's no way we were able to write a 10-page paper and you're like, are you kidding me? I didn't write a 10-page I w I wrote a 10-page paper without reading the book, let alone
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah.
Coley: here you are reading the book and then having someone else write that 10-page paper for you.
Zane: Right. They're not reading the book either though. AI's reading the books. Yeah. And then they read
Coley: Yeah, that's true.
Ryan Mitchell: I eventually eventually the
Zane: the clip notes that AI creates. They they just don't have the yellow books. Do you remember the yellow book? Clip note? Yeah. They don't have that. It's just AI spits out some bullets, some bullet points.
Coley: Yeah. Yeah. Do you ask yeah, the yellow books that you had to go get?
Ryan Mitchell: Eventually it'll be a situation. cliff nuts, yeah.
Coley: The bullet points. man.
Ryan Mitchell: But eventually
Zane: That's great.
Ryan Mitchell: it'll be like, hey, here's this thing you just plug in your head and it'll populate all the knowledge of what you need to learn in like five seconds. You know, it's like, you need
Coley: That's true.
Ryan Mitchell: to be trained for this
Zane: For right.
Ryan Mitchell: you need to be trained for this job that would have taken five degrees to get. Okay, here's this chip, boom. You know what I mean? And
Zane: The what movie was most ahead of its time? Was
Ryan Mitchell: Mm.
Zane: it
Coley: Idiocracy? No, sorry.
Zane: was it The Terminator? Matrix. what was the one with Tom Cruise?
Coley: Was it vanilla sky? No.
Zane: No. No, with the robots and stuff. Or iRobot with Will Smith. What was the Think about it? But those movies were so ahead of their freaking time, man.
Coley: IROBO Will Smith. I well, I think Terminator was the biggest one because that that literally is about someone going into the future to try to destroy what was happening, right?
Zane: Yeah. I mean those movies are genius and they're came out in the eighties and nineties like crazy, dude. And that shit's happening. You know?
Coley: Yeah. What I mean even when you look at like the book Yeah, that's
Ryan Mitchell: I f I feel like I'm just in a science fiction movie. Go ahead, sorry.
Coley: what it is. Well
Zane: Yeah. Yeah.
Coley: I was saying the book the book Fahrenheit 451. I mean that that book was written in like how is like the seventies and
Zane: I think the seventies, right? I think.
Coley: and it was about burning all the books that that people didn't like and you're like, well that's where we are now.
Zane: Yeah. Yeah. Crazy.
Ryan Mitchell: What was that what was that one what was that one book? Nineteen eighty five or something like that.
Zane: Nineteen eighty
Coley: N
Zane: four. Yeah. Yeah.
Coley: yeah, nineteen eighty four.
Zane: Yeah. And that
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. What was that?
Zane: was that came out in the seventies.
Coley: Mm-hmm. It
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. I mean
Zane: Is he crazy?
Coley: well, and you talk about like we've talked about you know being actors and and doing what we can. But if you think about it, everything that was created, if you look like if you look at Star Trek back in the eighties, they had what was the original iPhone where you could flip it open. And you could like see somebody's face and you could talk to them. And it
Zane: Yeah.
Coley: was like, and and then somebody was like, I'm gonna invent that.
Zane: Yeah. Or I or on TV, I can't remember what show that was or movie, but it was on the T V set where you would FaceTime somebody essentially. Or the inspector gadget watch. Yeah. Crazy.
Coley: Yeah. Yes. And
Ryan Mitchell: And who knows, may maybe aliens had it way before us too, you know? Well, Star Wars, I mean, don't get
Coley: you you look Star Wars. Yeah
Ryan Mitchell: me on the aliens tip 'cause I'll
Zane: Yeah, yeah.
Coley: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: I go down a rabbit hole pretty quickly with that.
Coley: Yeah, we yeah, I feel like you would have a lot of rabbit holes.
Ryan Mitchell: man.
Zane: Absolutely.
Coley: Come back, Alice. Come back.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, it's it's interesting now and I think I think we're kind of the last generation where we were we're young enough to be cool because we aren't ancient, but we were part of that other world. So we've we've been like on both we're like hovering between pre and now with our knowledge, you know. So
Zane: We're the only generation that that grew up with both. We gr knew what it's like without it and we know
Coley: Mm-hmm.
Zane: what it's like with it. Like we're right in that the cuss right there. You know, my kids
Coley: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: And we're young enough still to be able to shape this world now too. It's not like we're sixty or seventy.
Zane: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: We're still kind of on the upward trajectory, you know, to where we
Zane: Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: have to people will still listen to us 'cause we're not like, my God, back when my
Zane: Yeah. But what will
Ryan Mitchell: Snow.
Zane: be our thing where we're like, I'm just not gonna do that? That's you know
Ryan Mitchell: Mm.
Zane: that we fight off. Is it gonna be like living in VR? Is it gonna be AI? What is it gonna be where it's like, No, that's wrong? Which which happens
Ryan Mitchell: Mm, mm, mm.
Zane: with every generation, right?
Ryan Mitchell: I think it'll be like
Coley: Yeah, yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: go ahead, sorry.
Zane: Or well well we'd be just more adaptive 'cause that's how we've grown up. I don't know.
Coley: Well, look at the you know, you look at at different generations before us and and and jobs that have been taken over by certain things, like there's no more milkmen, you know.
Zane: Mm.
Coley: You know, it's just just like little things that that figure people figured out. The whole point of of and everybody always when you think about technology, you're always thinking about like a phone or AI, but like technology is just something that makes your life easier in no matter what generation you are. And it's like you are that, you know, as long as you're staying ahead of that curve, you're gonna be okay. We talk about our kids like what are they gonna do? Well, if they're above that curve, then they're gonna be okay.
Zane: Yeah. I taught my stepfather he was he'll only mail bills in to pay him and I was trying to teach him how to pay bills online. And he's no, that's just not right. This is not right to
Coley: In fact.
Zane: to do it that way. And I was like, Okay, so back in the day when mail stopped getting delivered by horses and it came to by car, was that was that right move? And he he got so mad at me like that's not the same thing. Like, it's the same thing. It's the same thing.
Coley: It's the same thing. Yeah, it
Ryan Mitchell: Let me let me ask you this. Let
Coley: is.
Ryan Mitchell: me ask you this. Will it w w what about when people start having actual relationships with AI? You know, like romantic relationships. Like tell me that's not the biggest crocus
Zane: What's happening, dude? That is
Coley: What what what was
Zane: That is definitely happening.
Ryan Mitchell: shit you've ever heard in your whole life there.
Zane: Yeah. Yeah.
Coley: What was that show on HBO, West Westworld? yeah.
Zane: West yeah, Westworld. The first season was awesome. I fell I fell off on it. Yeah. First season was
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. First season was great, I agree.
Zane: awesome. Well, hey, listen boys, I'm I I gotta get going here soon. I I I don't know if we had a cutoff time, but yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: Okay. No, no, no. Yeah,
Coley: No no we're good. Yeah.
Ryan Mitchell: we we appreciate the time.
Zane: Yeah, I appreciate I
Coley: And
Zane: mean this is kind of fun. So let let me know what this what this means and
Coley: We'll we'll pr we're probably gonna start season two in about at about August, so we'll let
Zane: Okay.
Coley: you know.
Zane: And I would be in
Ryan Mitchell: But we
Zane: a better background. I wouldn't you know, so let let me know and I think we could
Ryan Mitchell: Well
Zane: have some fun. And I'll promote it on my page too and shit, so
Ryan Mitchell: And I think
Coley: Cool.
Ryan Mitchell: we should we should collaborate on some some live videos at some point, you know. So, you know, that would be cool. We can think about
Zane: Yeah, if you want to come make a funny TikTok with me, dude, let me know. I always have ideas, I always need actors, and we can come up with some funny shit, man. Go to my I have funny,
Coley: All right. Totally.
Ryan Mitchell: Yeah. I'm down. All right. Well we appreciate
Zane: funny videos on there. So and some of them get millions
Coley: I know you have good you
Zane: and millions of views, some of them get five hundred. You just don't know. But they can end
Ryan Mitchell: You never know. You never know.
Coley: You never know.
Zane: with like, Go follow my buddy, check out his comedy show, whatever it whatever needs to be to make it worth it for everybody, you know?
Coley: Totally.
Zane: Yeah. Cool. All right.
Ryan Mitchell: For sure. Well we
Zane: Later, later boys. Yeah. Appreciate ya. Thank you. Bye.
Ryan Mitchell: we appreciate your time.
Coley: Alright, we'll keep in touch. Sounds good. All right.
Ryan Mitchell: Later.