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00:00:08.827Greetings Thrivers and welcome back to Now Let's Thrive, the podcast.
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00:00:12.567My name is Dr. Devin Ford and I am your host.
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00:00:19.267Today I want to talk about something that I think gets a bad reputation often,
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00:00:27.747And if we think about these things in terms of wellness, making us feel good,
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00:00:32.587giving us a reprieve or rest or break from stress,
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00:00:36.407the stressors of life, things that are going on sociopolitically,
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00:00:41.887then it can be something that is actually useful to help us in our wellness.
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00:00:46.187And that is a guilty pleasure.
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00:00:49.627Okay, so hear me out. And I'm
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00:00:53.067definitely going to give you some examples of current guilty
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00:00:58.127pleasures that I am indulging in and then tell you a little bit of the reason
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00:01:05.227why I'm doing it and how I think that that can really help to increase our wellness
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00:01:09.727or be something that helps to support our overall wellness.
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00:01:12.607And then, of course, I would love to hear from you, too.
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00:01:15.967So guilty pleasures, they do get a bad reputation.
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00:01:25.447they can actually be surprisingly functional, assuming that they're moderate
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00:01:31.447So I'm going to start by sharing some of my current guilty pleasures.
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00:01:36.287Reading romance novels. I think I've mentioned in past episodes,
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00:01:41.267I typically switch it up, might read something that's historical,
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00:01:46.027may read something that's nonfiction, might read something that's self-help,
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00:01:52.147And then I just read romance novels or things that are kind of fun and a lot
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00:01:54.607more lighthearted and fiction in between.
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00:01:59.632Lately, what I have done, because there has been so much of the heavy reading
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00:02:03.392that I've done, is I've just really been focusing on romance novels.
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00:02:09.312So whereas I would switch books and do a romance novel, like in between three
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00:02:14.552or four other books that I might read, I've just been continuously reading them and reading series.
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00:02:17.792So recently I started the Kennedy Ryan
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00:02:20.752Bennett family series there are four books
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00:02:23.652and I said okay I'm gonna read one and then go on
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00:02:26.532to something else come back to book two and I haven't done that so
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00:02:31.312I'm actually on book number four now the last in the series it is romance and
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00:02:36.052I am loving it and it may be a guilty pleasure but I gotta be honest I don't
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00:02:40.632feel guilty about it because the books are about love and joy and sure there's
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00:02:46.092drama and hardships and problems But at the end of it, they're happy endings.
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00:02:55.292And so they're making me feel good. The second thing is binge watching reality
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00:03:00.532TV shows. For a while, I'd actually just kind of narrowed it down to just a
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00:03:03.312couple of reality TV shows I would watch.
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00:03:09.152You know, here and there, wasn't really interested in making sure I watched
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00:03:12.952them like as soon as they came out or live on the day that they aired.
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00:03:18.472But I've really just been enjoying coming across some new reality TV shows and
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00:03:21.712actually taking some time to binge watch them.
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00:03:26.372One of them is Summer House. I'm enjoying that one. That's a Bravo series.
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00:03:31.152Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, also a Bravo series. I was really into...
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00:03:37.072Real Housewives of Potomac, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Real Housewives of New Jersey.
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00:03:43.232And I never really watched Beverly Hills very much maybe short clips of episodes
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00:03:46.912here and there as they were on and things that I would kind of see on social media.
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00:03:52.412But I actually started watching it not from season one because I think it's like on season 15.
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00:03:57.372Now I don't have that kind of time. But I started from when Garcelle Bouvet
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00:04:01.532joined the show midway through. I can't even remember now what season that is
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00:04:06.572and have watched it up until the current season again, which is number 15.
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00:04:09.712And I'm enjoying it. I laugh a lot. It's entertaining.
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00:04:15.672Yeah, that's just what it is. And then Bell Collective, which is the show about
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00:04:19.712a group of black women entrepreneurs in Jackson, Mississippi.
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00:04:23.252I've been binge watching that and have really gotten into it.
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00:04:25.532I watched it a while ago, kind of stopped.
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00:04:34.412And it's a guilty pleasure. It's not something that brings me any sort of productivity
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00:04:42.312Another thing that I do every now and then, maybe once a month or every other
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00:04:52.072I like donuts, specifically glazed. I'm not into all the fancy donuts and different flavors.
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00:05:01.092I'm an old-fashioned glazed girl or an old-fashioned sour cream cake donut gal. And...
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00:05:07.693I just go get a donut, you know, every now and then it's not something that's off often.
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00:05:12.613They are full of sugar and I don't need that type of sugar or carbs in my life,
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00:05:15.733but it's something that helps me feel good every now and then.
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00:05:20.833And it satisfies something inside of me. And so it's something I like to do.
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00:05:23.733It's my favorite sweet treat, favorite dessert.
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00:05:28.233I'm not into ice cream and frozen yogurt and lots of candies.
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00:05:32.193I don't like chocolate, but I do enjoy glazed donut every now and then.
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00:05:38.913Another thing that I really like to do, and as I was thinking about guilty pleasures
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00:05:44.033that I have, this one came up because it seems like it's something I do in cycles.
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00:05:48.573Like I get kind of into it and spend some time with it, and then time goes on,
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00:05:50.893and I don't do it anymore, and then I come back to it.
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00:05:53.873And I think I always come back to it because it's something,
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00:05:55.453again, that brings me a lot of joy.
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00:06:03.193And that is just going on YouTube, searching for videos from either my favorite
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00:06:08.013choreographers or my favorite artists, musical artists who are also really good dancers.
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00:06:14.353So two of my go-tos are Dawn Richard because she is an amazing artist.
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00:06:18.673I love her music and I follow it, but she is an incredible dancer.
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00:06:23.113She is a trained dancer. been watching her dance since she was with Danny D.
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00:06:28.073Cain and she's got some great videos out that show you the rehearsals of the
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00:06:33.753choreography for her music videos and I watched them and I love them and then
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00:06:35.833the second one is Aaliyah Janelle.
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00:06:39.383Queen stilettos and she is a
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00:06:42.583choreographer and has choreographed for you know
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00:06:48.423dancer with Beyonce and I just love
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00:06:52.523Aaliyah Janelle I think she's an incredible talent her queen queens and leto
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00:07:02.763she motivates other dancers how she teaches other dancers and And it's something
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00:07:06.443that just brings me joy because I love dance.
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00:07:12.595Another one is re-watching shows and movies that I love from the past.
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00:07:17.735Brown Sugar and Stomp the Yard are in regular rotation. Not really regular.
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00:07:19.155Every now and then I watch them
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00:07:23.435if they come on TV or I see that they're available on streaming for free.
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00:07:27.955I re-watch them and I feel that same sense of joy all over again.
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00:07:32.115When I was a kid, I used to really like to watch the movie Crooklyn,
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00:07:35.635especially with one of my best friends. It's a Spike Lee joint.
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00:07:39.335We would watch it all the time. And by myself, I liked watching The Color Purple,
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00:07:42.835which isn't necessarily a happy movie all the way through.
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00:07:47.095But at the end, there is some joy and I just always like it.
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00:07:53.095And then I re-watched series like Girlfriends and Sex and the City because lots
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00:07:58.415of laughter, lots of things that resonate, especially now as I am more of an
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00:08:05.915And also, I just like to take naps. And I know I've talked about taking naps
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00:08:09.855before on the show because it's something that I do really like to do.
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00:08:13.695It helps me to reset, refocus, re-energize.
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00:08:18.075And I could be doing something else during the time that I take naps.
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00:08:21.915I could be more productive. And I think that's a big part of the reason why
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00:08:26.055they're considered guilty pleasures. Because we sort of feel bad,
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00:08:30.515or at least I know I do, when I indulge in things that I consider to be unproductive.
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00:08:34.635But naps are also very good. for wellness.
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00:08:38.935And I'll get into that a little bit more in a moment. But some other examples
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00:08:44.195of guilty pleasures could be spending time on a hobby where there's no monetization,
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00:08:53.218Could be drawing, could be crafting. I have some friends that like to do DIY
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00:08:58.058projects, that like to go outside and work in their yard to make it beautiful,
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00:09:03.818gardening, just all kinds of things that are hobbies and things that people do that, again,
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00:09:09.878no real reward or benefit or monetization, no incentives.
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00:09:13.598It just helps them feel good, right?
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00:09:18.018And those are guilty pleasures or can be considered guilty pleasures as well.
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00:09:24.958So I want to share why guilty pleasures can actually help.
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00:09:31.849Us with our wellness and can actually help us to just experience joy and help
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00:09:34.629to make us more whole and more healthy.
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00:09:38.469At a psychological level, they serve as reward stimuli.
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00:09:44.589So engaging in something that you enjoy, even if it feels indulgent or unproductive,
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00:09:50.909it activates dopamine-related pathways that are associated with both motivation and pleasure.
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00:09:56.189It makes us feel good. This can help to counterbalance chronic stress,
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00:10:01.049which otherwise keeps cortisol levels elevated. And that's not good for us.
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00:10:08.389In very simpler terms, small, enjoyable indulgences can help reset your stress baseline.
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00:10:13.809Think about how you feel afterwards or even during the time when you're engaging
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00:10:18.609in some of these quote-unquote guilty pleasures. Makes you feel lighter.
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00:10:24.169Makes you feel good. All these things are actually really good for your wellness.
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00:10:29.249There's also a self-regulation benefit. So humans aren't built for constant
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00:10:33.989discipline. So we're not built for these consistent routines and schedules that
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00:10:39.109we find ourselves in without something that's different, that counterbalances that.
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00:10:44.869So allowing controlled indulgences can prevent what's known as ego depletion
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00:10:47.889or burnout from excessive restraint.
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00:10:51.869So when we permit ourselves to have occasional treats.
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00:10:57.396This often helps us sustain healthier long-term habits than those who aim for
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00:10:59.476rigid perfection and then rebound.
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00:11:02.656So I think about that in terms of that donut that I like to have,
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00:11:06.736allowing myself to have that glazed donut every now and then.
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00:11:11.556It actually helps me to not eat donuts or eat sweets all the time,
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00:11:13.916which is much healthier for me.
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00:11:17.156And in that moment, it helps me again to feel good.
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00:11:23.356That consistent discipline that we have, it's good, but on the flip side of that,
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00:11:30.376human nature is really so antithetical to that, that we have to allow some flexibility
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00:11:34.216and enjoyment and some pleasure in there as well.
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00:11:39.317Another angle is to think about identity and autonomy. So guilty pleasures are
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00:11:42.317often personally meaningful, but socially judged.
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00:11:47.097So binge watching a show, which I talked about, listening to specific genre
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00:11:51.377of music, indulging in comfort foods can be something that we're judged for.
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00:11:56.197But choosing to engage in them reinforces a sense of agency because you're doing
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00:12:02.637something because you enjoy it, not because it's optimized or it's approved by anyone else.
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00:12:09.577And that is strongly correlated with well-being and self-determination theory, right?
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00:12:14.977So us having the opportunity to choose what we want to engage in and do it,
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00:12:18.157regardless of what it looks like or what other people think,
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00:12:21.237also really helps with our wellness.
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00:12:26.997And another thing that I just want to say about that is just the way that we
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00:12:33.117use language, like even the term guilty pleasures, maybe we reframe that.
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00:12:38.717And instead of saying guilty pleasures, we just say small pleasures, right?
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00:12:43.017Or pleasures that we indulge in every now and then. And again.
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00:12:48.497Something that we don't necessarily indulge in or do or take part in all the
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00:12:50.737time or consistently, right?
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00:12:56.017But just reframing it to be more positive. So if we take that word guilty out
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00:13:01.597because we know that language matters, it helps us to feel better about what we are doing.
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00:13:07.197It helps to promote that energy. It's more supportive and it displaces priorities
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00:13:13.997or that regret that we tend to have, right? So yes, all in all.
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00:13:20.168Pleasures, or also known as guilty pleasures, can contribute to our wellness.
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00:13:22.828But, but, but, but, here's the thing.
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00:13:27.908It's only when they're consciously integrated rather than compulsively used.
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00:13:31.328So again, we want to use these things moderately.
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00:13:35.528We don't want to become so unproductive that we stop getting things done and
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00:13:41.228stop working towards our goals that we lose sight of or stop our routines and
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00:13:43.628our habits and it lowers our discipline.
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00:13:49.348And so that's not productive at all. But again, there has to be maybe not even
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00:13:54.008a balance, maybe integration is a better word, integrating both that discipline,
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00:13:58.808the routines and the structure that we have in our life so that we can get things
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00:14:04.688done that we need to, but then also incorporating or integrating into that some
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00:14:08.528of these guilty pleasures or these small acts of joy,
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00:14:13.948hobbies, things that we indulge in every now and then that help us to take a
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00:14:17.208break from the rigidity, something that's very important.
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00:14:20.567Not a long episode today, just
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00:14:24.027wanted to share that with you because I was recently thinking about it.
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00:14:27.887I've been trying to make myself feel better about the fact that I've been doing
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00:14:33.447a lot of romance novel reading and into reality shows, but it really is okay
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00:14:38.927because it is helping me with my overall wellness and helping me to have less stress.
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00:14:43.547As always, Thrivers, I want to hear from you. You're welcome to reach out to
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00:14:47.707me to share what your guilty pleasures are, how you're going to reframe that
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00:14:51.867for positivity so it doesn't make you feel so guilty.
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00:14:57.087And of course, if you have any questions or topics for further episodes,
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00:14:59.607please reach out and let me know.
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00:15:02.307I always love hearing from you all.
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00:15:06.507Until next time, Thrivers, may you be well.
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00:15:13.847May you engage in things that make you feel at peace, that regulate your stress
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00:15:18.107or bring down your levels of stress and help you to experience joy.
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00:15:24.947And as always, may you be well. Until next time, take care and bye for now.