MTN PHYSIO PERFORMANCE PODCAST EP 21 | DR. ERIK SMITH TAC, THEORY AND HUNTING

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright guys, welcome back to the mountain physio performance podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Dr. Ward and we got a special guest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're actually the new studio here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Try this new environment, but I got a special guest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we got a really good friend of mine and we have Dr. Eric Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Eric is been a great friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ben, let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Working together for
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[SPEAKER_01]: Little over probably like a year and a half now maybe almost two years and as I always start at this podcast with what impresses me Eric is really always been supportive has reached out multiple times we got them involved with the team but when I said hey let's go to do a tack here attack there he said when looking at my schedule he's on top of it he's on top of all his.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really responses and just really kind of the responsibilities also within the business and so I really consider in a business partner and really enjoy working with Eric.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a very skilled clinician when we went to a lot of tech events.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is very knowledgeable and ultimately gets the job done but he gets the job done right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was fun to go to the tech events with him here in Utah last year at
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[SPEAKER_01]: but it was a good time and a lot of people enjoyed getting to know Eric and working with him so you're going to see a lot more of him because we have a fun series coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our doc talk series where we will be actually doing these series together and doing them so we're both discussing the research and our expertise in different fields and bringing that together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in one podcast to help you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So with that said, I'm excited to introduce Eric but Eric, why don't you give a little background about yourself?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Preston, I can't express enough how excited I'm to be here, to be part of the month of your team, to have the experiences that I've had already thus far with month of physio and where we're headed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think just gives me really passionate about two big things in my life, which is obviously health and wellness and physical therapy,
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[SPEAKER_00]: just enjoying whether it's being outdoors in general or hunting, you know, obviously I love that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just give you a little background about myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a physical therapist for 16 years now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Practice in the outpatient or the pedic setting, areas of emphasis that kind of focus on our sports med, general or the pedics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also certified in scoliosis training exercise specifics, training called the straws method or principles of straws.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so again, just more exercise based approach to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so using all of those on a daily basis to, again, help people get back to where they want to be and hit their goals and that's something that fills my heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been, it's been so fun to have you part of the team really now and just again for that same reason I think the direction we're headed to together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was thing about this just the other day, but I think in business and in life and I think but even down to like a marriage or even a relationship like a hunting part and they're hunting good, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like I think there's the same that goes like, if you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far, go together and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel that with you Eric and I know it's been good to have you here, but I think yeah, you just to show or you've done a lot of contingency patient, you have a lot of skill study, you have a lot of value and it's been fun to see new developments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been fun to see you as well again, you within the site of business and kind of help with ideas and formulate different topics, formulate different posts, everything else like that for content, for the consumer for our consumer show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, it's been awesome to see and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it's been great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, it's something that has been really cool to see take into that outdoor enthusiast environment and just take some of those in the four walls studying outside and see that improve and help others, which is again, the main reason why we do all
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, did you grow up there then?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, it was interesting to know you grew up there in Wisconsin and, yeah, do you a lot of hunting, I know you'd do that, and you had a successful trip out of the west, and I know if there wasn't snow on the ground right now, you probably said, shed hunting, so get after it in a lot of ways, but tell me to grow up there in Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To do growing up and sports, everything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, just a basic Wisconsin kid, you know, enjoying that with doors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The color was sponsored.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure it's no, yeah, I'm sure it's no secret, you know, based on my accent, you know, us here in the Midwest, we all sound normal, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you guys out west or oh, these are going to hear that Wisconsin come out in me a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, no, just love the outdoors grew up, you know, grandpa, dad, uncles, raising me in outdoors, whether it was squirrel hun, small game, rabbit hun, to even, you know, white tails, ear hunting, turkey hunting, played sports as far as basketball, football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I quit baseball at an early age, just realized it's not my sport, but it was all good, and yeah, you know, something that obviously has an adult and at this stage of my life, and the beauty of the outdoors is they don't, we don't have to outgrow it, we don't have to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: give it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just have continued that on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as you mentioned, I think we got like 15 inches of snow the other day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So luckily, when out with my kids jet hunting on Saturday, before the storm, and we had some luck on, I think, four sheds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a good, it was a good day just overall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just again, kids spend enough time outside and pass that tradition onto my kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what's fun to watch from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would obviously have known each other, done a lot of business calls, and a lot of violence a lot of ideas off of each other, and I should have required some time at say and spend some time together, some tech events, a different event, some general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's fun to see, also just you interact with your kids and getting them outside, and again, taking them shit, hunting, and everything like that's so cool, I think it's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's such an opportunity and really such a neat experience for MSA, the Easterner, the white-tail loads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a family activities what I'm going to say because maybe these plots of land aren't as big as something like as vast going hiking, you know, 2,000 feet up here and trying to find some milksheds and some scrub-o-bike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying white-to-hunting or white-to-health shit-hunting has had maybe any easier, but I think maybe a little bit like it's not as arduous, I guess we'll say, but I think it's really neat to see you taking your kids out there, and it was awesome to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's something I've thought about even before having kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I want to pass this tradition on, which says I was raised and grew up in, uh, and just enjoy it so much, definitely not going to force my kids into it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I find especially shed hunting, or anytime we can get outside of that, it's a piece of the hole enjoying the outdoors puzzle that I can implement to hopefully continue to grow that passion with them so that they can carry that tradition on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, certainly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about that same thought process today, you know, some of this kind of doing some communication.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe on Instagram, some people, like, how the outdoors is really, again, like, like, Harry said that piece of the puzzle, that whether it's interacting, like, I think I was talking to someone about Bologna and like how, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, special bow hunting is because you're interacting so close with these animals and it's not always about, you know, killing the animal, but it's really it we all know as hunters like we are I would say the true conservationists even though we are usually take more animals off the landscape, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: we are the true conservationists where we know why we do that and so we can have more animals and so we can experience that and we can experience their life and we value their life and so it is as I have that same conversation with someone today I think to your point is that there's something just about being outside and nature and
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you could rather talk on this as well as as far as the fact of what that does to the mental health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you want to talk more than just the physical health, but your mental health, how important that is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, 100% degree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's even research out there that, you know, I think within spend 24 to 48 hours outdoors in general, whether it's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: going for walks, whether it's spending time in your own yard or it is going out to the woods and hunting others, actual physiological changes that happen within your body, just during that experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's huge, you know, and as I've gotten older and mature through the hunting experience, you start to really reflect and appreciate that more just that time outside it and I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: with the last couple of times I've taken my kids out, whether it's taken, you know, I've four of them, so you try to spread it out evenly and try to see if any of them want to go with me in general, but typically I'll get one or two that, hey, why I want to go sit in the tree stand with the bow hunting or let's go turkey hunting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, there's, there's some general, maybe bribery that goes on with offering a tablet here and there, things like that, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: For them just to get to see the outdoors, you know, again, it goes beyond where we live, it goes beyond the neighborhood and just seeing a deer in the field and they get to watch kind of just nature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: run its course, naturally, that's so cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so cool for me to reflect on those memories, you know, because we all interpreted different too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just funny that like I think about last fall, I was out with my son and we're sitting in the bow stand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got him like three feet underneath me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just put a hang on on the tree maybe six feet off the ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we had this little little buck come up behind us and, you know, we're fortunate enough to be a little selective on where I hunt as far as what we do hardest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, just kind of watch the whole process and the bucket eventually worked this way out and my son said, Dad, why didn't you shoot it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, again, that's just a teaching moment and it's self to explain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not all about the shooting or killing of these animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just both being outdoors with and taking the nature and
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's even interesting too, because those, that same son that we had a little walk for the last shed that we found on Saturday, you know, last year he went out three times with me and finally on the third time out and many miles of walk and he was a trooper he found when the first one on his own ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you're still excited and I kind of had this explanation to him because his sister and brothers had already found one on Saturday You know, there's never any game team when you're out there finding one, but you know I just spoke optimism to him and just you know just kind of given a teaching moment to just explain like just like hunting It's not always about what you take home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the time that we can spend up there and you know to be lucky enough Then we found one
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was pretty ecstatic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, just to even use that as a teaching moment and say, this is how you feel or how do you feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, asking those questions and, you know, just say enjoy these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So just really, uh, not only is the are the outdoor something that we get to appreciate and enjoy, but it's also we can teach and impact something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's great to see always, um, you get back there to kids and I love that teaching moment that you said, let's talk a little bit about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can see if, if we do put this up on on YouTube, there's an elk there behind you, uh, let's see if years and dox, obviously white tailhunter, bow hunter, really can I all, all time hunter rifle hunter, I don't think you discriminate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jen started to say, I think, I would say I'd come myself with bow hunter,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you call yourself with 100 and all you do is go hunt and you miss out on a lot of hunting as well so I don't discriminate either actually enjoy shooting long range rifles and enjoy that whole process to it's a little different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing better I would say than bow hunting being close like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big ten white tell hunter, he shot any good bucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had me, let's talk about that first I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you know, definition of a good is his upper interpretation, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I've shot a handful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of blocks over my years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've passed on a lot, you know, I'm fortunate enough my uncle, uncles, and my dad and grandpa kind of all had some foresight in this process, so I do get to hunt some private land here in Wisconsin, so we can manage that a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I certainly passed on some, yeah, I've had some really
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're all trophies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's based on what you shoot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in how the person pulled the trigger, as long as you're happy with it, that's definitely a maturity thing that has come over the years here that, you know, I've kind of taken a full circle of just used to be like wait for the biggest buck that I know is out there and hope that it becomes across.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But definitely
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[SPEAKER_00]: trying to shift that whole mentality of, you know what, as long as whoever pulls the trigger and they're excited, I think that's huge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've had a couple of buddies that we've been friends since like first grade that we take out dough hunting late season here in Wisconsin and actually
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[SPEAKER_00]: one of them started hunting with me when he was we were like early 30s and I was with him when he shot his first deer and then he was lucky enough to get a couple after that and so that was really cool just a process and I find even more joy in that than I do jute my own sometimes and then another buddy that was with me this last of December and he shot his first deer and I think and are 15 years so it's just really fun to be able to share that outdoors
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[SPEAKER_00]: with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, you know, again, I love White tail hunting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't discriminate around four months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I started Bow hunting more so after P.T.
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[SPEAKER_00]: school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and have again gained an appreciation of that and just seeing how it's completely different than rifle hunting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've learned to understand rifle hunting and the 90, 90, the gun season animal scouts and is more of a camaraderie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a time that I get to spend with uncles, dad, cousins that now that we're all together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't get to see each other as often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think one of my cousins is always quoted that is even as
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[SPEAKER_00]: But 98 years, season is like Christmas for adults, like as far as just he anticipates that day now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's finally
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then as you mentioned, I was fortunate enough to have some success out west.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't go out west every year, but doesn't mean that I don't try to stay ready for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was first exposed to an archery animal hunt in Montana for my first western hunt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't have any luck, but that first day just sitting there watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard it out watching an animal watching meal deer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I turned to my neighbor that was grateful enough to ask me to go along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just said, you know, I don't care about shooting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This just makes the moment right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just being out here and spending these, I think we did five days out there and just have a blast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the elk is kind of even a, it is a, it's a story of a lifetime that I'll never forget.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My dad and grandpa and Uncle
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[SPEAKER_00]: have all counted out last not every year, but every couple of years and four years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think my dad went out there when he was in his 20s and now it's in his 70s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but there's been a gap in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the last time he was out there was 9-11 because I can remember that his flight got canceled to come back with Wisconsin, so he had to jump in the truck with a bunch of guys that drove
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just kind of here in that story is cool in itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he always said, hey, when you graduate from high school, we're going to go off country, then it turned a college, then it turned a PT school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And finally, 2023, and in 2021, this, you know, this, these things stay planning now, in 2021, I told my dad, I said, Dad, enough to just push in the saw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're, we're going to make this happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give this worked out, and so we're fortunate enough to make some connections with a person at Colorado, and when out there,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a rifle hunt, but it was just, it was a blast in the horns on the wall, you know, they're there, but the memories that I have in my mind of that hunt, they're with me forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no that is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you'll never forget.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say your first your first buck, you'll never forget when you're first old there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And quite frankly, I think looking back and thinking back on a lot of my life with hunting, you know, almost like I can look at a trophy on the wall, whether it's a, you know, whether it's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now looking at a couple of sheds and honestly, I can remember where I have found every same, like I guess I remember where I found
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[SPEAKER_01]: two of those three sheds, I don't know where I'm going to go, but you have memories of almost every single trophy and you can almost remember the exact, you know, smell and the air, everything else is at the temperature everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned something, and I want to really get into this for the for the listeners here is obviously the performance podcast, I want to talk about performance, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say more than just like even, you know, we have pre-hab training of like your methodology of practicing them in a say, I think that could be a really a fun conversation for listeners to have or to hear, I should say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you mentioned of, you know, going back west to go hunt at L and obviously there was a physical side of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And,
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[SPEAKER_01]: coming from Wisconsin, although a flatter area, less elevation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What were some of the factors as you were heading west that really influenced you the most, or what injury could be the prepared in the most, or, you know, what was that process?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love working out in general, or training, you know, I really should say training because I don't have specific goals from as so much nowadays as far as like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: my one rep max bench or squad things like that but my goals are to be healthy and enjoy life be able to move through life and also you know to realize too that my kids are watching me you know and how I act and the activities I get involved in and so you know I want to
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, an act of lifestyle is important too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so going back to, you know, as far as the hunt out west, obviously, we've got bluffs here, which are probably like funny hills on the ski hill out west.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're, they're, they're steep, they're work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, annoying that I had a couple of years, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: of when I was going to go out there, I think that the one of the key things that I did was my training was inconsistent with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was working out or training probably five to six days a week, consistently integrating some cardio work, knowing that I'm going to be at elevation, knowing that I'm going to be going up and down, you know, steeper in clients than I am used to
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[SPEAKER_00]: strength components for core, you know, accessory muscles, really making sure my legs were in shape and ready to go was a key thing too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm really from the cardio aspect, you know, it wasn't like I was, again, I took on some running and I don't mind running, but I also was doing some weighted vest, rocking, training, ax and climb on the treadmill, trying to, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: a zone two cardio level as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was pretty, again, consistent with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something that I was integrating probably a good five days a week at minimum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did, I, you know, watching the muscle kind of come on in my way to watching, you know, any kind of fat mass kind of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lean tissue was definitely evolving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see it in the mirror, you know, people are saying, hey, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like looking good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: getting ready for Colorado and getting ready for the West.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, again, just another component of getting out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then when I, by the time I got out there, you know, as far as the acclamation, I think because we were at 11,000 feet elevation, you know, we got out there a day and a half early, but really, I felt really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that committee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, and I think that's a big component of, again, the time and effort I put in going into before getting out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, as you know, and as we have a lot of these systems in play that we're continuing to refine and work on ready to implement really is there's various components of getting ready for a hunt and
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[SPEAKER_01]: talked about a few of them right there as far as the and that one that one factor of accommodation is one of the factors and the variables as you know that it's just one of the harder ones so the fact that you didn't is good and I think just a testament to say as well like being healthy and exercising is good and just doing some part of doing some you know lifting strength training.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really no doing something like that in those rounds, but being consistent, it's a hundred percent of what you got to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't really matter what type of workout you do, do some cardio, live some weights, get stronger, be consistent, and you'll have greater success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think, like I mentioned before, I love to do the Western hunts every year and make it a tradition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think maybe we need to talk after this about that a little bit more and talk to my wife,
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[SPEAKER_00]: All kidding the site though, like I don't think there's any reason whether you hunt the Midwest, whether you hunt out east, whether you hunt down south, or you're in the west, that we shouldn't all train as if we're going to the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that's huge just for the longevity of enjoying the outdoors, whether it's shed hunting in the late winter early spring or if it's 30 hunting in the spring or whatever season it may be, I think that just promotes that longevity that we we want to emphasize to, you know, talking to these people at tack, the participants at tack and, you know, trying to, you know, spread our our mission and our vision and values on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know what we can offer you know when we obviously we don't get people that disagree with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I think it just goes for a circle to make sure no matter what you do, do something but be consistent with it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tell me, I think you um I was hit the nail on the head and there do something be consistent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me about TAC, your experience at TAC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll leave it up to you, your interpretation of what you want to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's Pennsylvania TAC or the Utah TAC, maybe talk a little bit about both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was super fun to have you here last year and to travel with you again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what was, I guess, eye-opening to you as far as even going around and shooting there as well as just seeing the courses, talking to people, interacting with people, working with people, like what was something that yes to that to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, let's check the box right there, Pennsylvania was money is all get out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just part of the experience, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like the hunt, I'll never forget that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both experiences were amazing, and I do have to appreciate you to ask me to come out and work those, because those are absolutely glass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had never been to a tack before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but never been to one before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the thing that stood out to me most is it doesn't matter if you're a first time bowl hunter or if you're an expert experienced bowl hunter, archer of many years, it's the community that's there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it was the people that we interacted with and met from the shooter side or even the vendor side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: these support of everyone and working towards like ultimately common goal of just just embracing and enjoying the outdoors and embracing the time being there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the biggest takeaway in both areas whether it was in Pennsylvania or Utah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, no matter what the weather was, you know, it's kind of ringing, ringing there as far as the weather goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought, you know, the experiences that we had, you know, the phone call, if camera number just stayed two or three, where our tent had been blown away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But just to watch the other vendors, you know, when we showed up, hey, what can we do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here to help you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we were back up and running in within 30 minutes to 45 minutes to that most.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just amazing to see that support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I even mentioned to you that when we were having conversations after one day is like, oh, it doesn't matter what brand of
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[SPEAKER_00]: catalog standpoint or other, you know, you go into these big box stores and you see you would think they're the competition But they're we're all friends we're all supportive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to see you do great do you and so I think that's a big thing That took away from both locations and then to shoot Utah I mean, that was an F2 blast and self-tube like I think we shot this sick-good course Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna lie, you know, I'm almost scouting
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[SPEAKER_00]: further side shot here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I can shoot up to like 70 yards in my yard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to shoot 106 to 114 yards shots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Only a couple arrows lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which I'm okay with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt pretty good about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a great experience from just being able to participate in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then again, for both locations to to get to meet the people that were providing services for and they're to support and help the people meeting in both locations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: was amazing then I think, you know, even the relationships that have evolved and I still keep in touch with some of them here beyond it and we're talking, you know, seven months later, it's just really awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what highly recommend, I mean, if it's something on your radar, just think about doing the weather, you want to go shoot, whether you want to just go walk around and visit the vendors and go check them out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: there's not, there's not a stupid question, there's not, you know, you're going to learn so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's how I feel like you've been talking to you and just the other people around whether they were shooters or they were vendors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I know my equipment in my bowl, but I'm, I'm a rifle hunter and bow hunter and don't know all the ins and outs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm learning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, never felt foolish to ask questions or to give insight on those different topics is just a great experience overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I think it was fun to watch your shoot and everything in your shot really well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, yeah, I agree with that sentiment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is everyone should show your attack because attacks are so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The told us your challenge proved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The degrees that run it are just awesome people and then get the vendors and then the village, the shooting village and like just hanging out there basically with everyone and talking there along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really fun from our perspective when I go and it's been fun to go to a lot of those events and just to talk to people about their health and help them move better and work with people and whether it's an injury that they
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[SPEAKER_01]: sustained or they're trying to prevent an injury for the next attack or for the next day or recover or you know anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are really funny good to be with this fun that is something to shoot with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and I think it's also a skill you know even though we were taking those long shots I mean it makes those 15 to 20 yard shots that I'm taking in the woods you know a lot easier obviously they're a little bit longer on west there but from a tree stance standpoint I can't express how much it has helped me evolve as a shooter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that aspect is certainly a challenging yourself that way is so valuable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me about, okay, so the Shroth method, so this is a special certification you have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've already kind of mentioned it a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the listeners, this is a great system to go through and I think kind of gives a little background about some of the themes and some of the methodology that both Eric and myself think of when we're doing these.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, screens, these assessments, these, you know, analysis, and so talk to us a little bit about that and so that the listeners can hear about this shrub method and again, you're background in that and how that applies and how you can it almost carry it, I'm going to say that over into helping people and clinic helping people on the mountain, helping people attack and how that pertains also to them that in the country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so my training is in the principles of straw because straw the straw method itself was originated in Germany back in the early 1900s and has evolved there's been different schools that have taken on the concept to then added their own increments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but they still have the core foundation of the principles of straw and the biggest thing like I mentioned before, it's it's geared towards exercise based treatment for scoliosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: people that have scoliosis, so whether you're an adolescent that has fortunate in your path experiences or if you're an adult that has had that adolescent in your path experiences or even adult onset scoliosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's different areas of emphasis in some of the treatment or the focus in that age range, but really what it comes down to is emphasizing one posture awareness, core strengthening, and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are kind of the three principles or three traits that I've taken from the principles of straw and kind of incorporated them into my clinic treatments or even on this side of things with, you know, working with people at hack and so forth, especially the die for magnetic breeding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is huge and something commonly overlooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's something that especially as hunters in general, you know, when we start to get a little bit of that adrenaline rush, I did feel that heart rate pickup, you feel you're breathing change but to be able to train that diaphragm and that diaphragmatic breathing prior to that incidents is like that, I think is huge to make those moments count when when you need to control everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I can integrate some of that diagrammatic train at a stressed level, it makes it that much easier when I am sitting in a true stand or if I am on a stock, things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would say that's one main thing that I've taken away from it and tried to integrate across the interactions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is the posture awareness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: really just, you know, trying to strengthen or exercise in the best body mechanics that that individual can have because we are all individuals so to say the perfect posture is always the key, you know, not all of us can get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so more individualizing that and I think that's where these screens are going to come in really nicely too is like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are going to be ways they're general screen and they aspect of the same movements that we're going to take everyone through, but they're also going to be able to allow us to individualize exercises or approaches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: take each individual person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think those are the main things that I've kind of carried over into this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, and we're having done some work with Eric and now talking to him a lot and about different topics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm excited about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited about the doc talk series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: breaking down the subjects and everything, so subject matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So listeners, if you guys have topics, definitely reach out to both Eric or myself and let us know the subjects or topics you want to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that that screening, that evaluation, that assessment, aspect of whether it's within the principles of Schroff or a trail runner or we just are not that part of the podcast trail runners, that analysis portion of breaking down things
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[SPEAKER_01]: are excited to share more with you on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But breaking down the score of the in how people are scoring and then addressing those dysfunction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love those principles of applying that across the spectrum of all hunters, really, and everyone we work with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, adult onset scoliosis, interesting principle right there, you don't know if I've necessarily heard that before, I can see exactly what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's an interesting principle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to us about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a country?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it what's the causation?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that is the, that's the biggest question, really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's a you'll path that, you know, if we had an answer to that, I don't think, you know, it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it can be, it can be our 30 changes to the spine, it can be disc changes to the spine, it can be muscle and balances, there's, there's, there's a variety of aspects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I found the most benefit from working with that population is usually their experiencing more pain and to incorporate the principles of straw and integrate the, the breathing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the because that breathing is going to be different based on just how the skeleton is positioned and how different stresses and strains are occurring across that diaphragm and even the accessory muscles that are helping us breathe and supporting us for core support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So those that component and then just some posture awareness
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[SPEAKER_00]: and being able to, again, just even, it's, it's not just the principles of trough that are integrated when working with the
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[SPEAKER_00]: is it's integrating those principles, but also even taking of the conventional traditional PT approach to it as well and putting some of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where I appreciate the experience that I have in that aspect of being able to integrate the principles of straw, but also integrate my experience from the general orthopedic background.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, with that population, the adult
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's impressive and it's always, again, fulfilling to this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, is it always paying free?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, is it always complete erect spine?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but for them to, they say, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel better than when I started it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's always, you know, good to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this isn't interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was working with an art chair just the other day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: from Becky's to her basically flu out here for a conference and to put it in a valuation here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His bow arm, he was struggling with some stability and really kind of analyzing and looking at, first calliosis, that's obvious one of my questions was to analyze that spine and look because I think there was definitely a sad thing, but there was definitely a little bit of a story, it was just that I was affecting
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[SPEAKER_01]: that scapula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even down to like archers, this is a great tool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so many people think archery as just just the shoulders, but the shoulder blades as they lie, sit on top of those ribs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have any scoliosis functional scoliosis, it's definitely going to affect how you shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to affect the, you know, back tensions and affect those long
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was really interesting to address that with this individual and then to your point I want to say is the diaphragmatic breathing so that breathing aspect of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think back to the Olympics we had just a little bit ago and those biathletes, the biathlon that are shooting that so awesome to watch those athletes that are controlling their breath so good and so to your point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: learning to control your breath is a huge skill set.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad that you have experience and expertise in that because that's a very valuable skill that you offer to our athletes that we work with and to my clients and patients is helping them with that breathing technique because such a valuable skill set for hunting for life in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I completely agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: tool box said, I definitely picked up over the last few years to find that that's it doesn't have to be a scoliosis specific.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can all work on that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so again,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are some of the thoughts you have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I guess I would say in relationship to, yeah, not in physio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you looking forward to the most?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do have some events that it was constant that we're trying to finalize right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So likely some events that you'll be going to and maybe some tack events and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you look forward to most this year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think just the continued evolution among physio, you know, since we first started talking, I think I was thinking about that before this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we probably started talking like maybe 2019, 2020, and then, you know, just to see how fast it took off in the last year and a half to two years, and then to see it now and where we're headed, that's my biggest excitement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think these outdoors enthusiasts
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[SPEAKER_00]: these are going to be a game changer for everyone, I can told you last year when I came back from Pennsylvania and even more so when I came back from Utah, I think my wife probably was like what telling me stories, you're having too much fun out there and it's a blast and it really even in a little bit of a selfish way, it rejuvenated my passion for
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[SPEAKER_00]: working with people and being able to then carry that over into the outdoors like in hunting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, my wife gets tired of me telling the stories of my hunting stories, but those pack or any of these events, you know, to hear other stories to be able to share.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the experiences, it's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's the biggest thing is I'm just, I'm excited to see how we're going to keep evolving, keep moving forward and just seeing, you know, kind of the end is not imaginable at this point, you know, to understand like we're just
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's exciting to have you part of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the doc talk series podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have some fun ones plans and that's going to be really good things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to delve into a topic specific subject matter together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to super fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you'll see a lot more of Eric on the Instagram on social media through, you know, building different
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our programs we definitely, as he's talking and mentioned, talked and speaking about some of the different movement screens that we have excited about that and truly kind of continue to develop those we've been working on those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, I've been working on some of those for years and the idea now is to, again, how this is training system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for this, I guess I would say, in better words, a system to really analyze quality of movement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm going to say, I'm going to, you know, I'm excited to be with you, but I'm going to say a few things and I want you to choose one of the other and then I want to talk a little bit about becoming an athlete what that means to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what do you prefer?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm a former basketball player football player and aerobic is much more enjoyable than aerobic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Friends, you love sprinting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do a sprint much over a couple miles around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't say that I don't know what to do it and know that we have to kind of challenge yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but definitely strengthen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to, I think that's why that car you aspect of it and speaking of for hunters is such a key variable in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: especially this Blastron hunting, like being able to just put it in gear in first and low.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just climbed them out in definitely is a very good skill set to have and you build that through some car yourself, but you also have to have strength.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mobility or stability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Based on, probably what I would say would say you need both, but based on the evolution of time and my body, I probably should be focusing more on mobility than stability, but really, I don't think you can have a wrong answer with that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, heart, a bow hunting or a rifle hunting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you're going to put me on the spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say, Bull hunting at this point, you might, yeah, my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you would ask me 20 years ago, I'd probably be all about the race, Bull hunting, but definitely enjoy Bull hunting a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No wrong answers at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shed hunting or actual hunting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bull.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, again, you're going to put me on the spot, because watch my kids or for myself to find a shed, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I definitely got to go with regular hunting, but I do find shared hunting to be kind of a nice kind of preparation, nice scouting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we found a lot of the sheds we found on Saturday is that kind of just from knowing where I was seeing deer in the fall, knowing kind of just general bedding patterns, things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: come fall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely, I like regular hunting better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, my wife will agree that I don't always come home with something, but that's just hunting in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not what it's all about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I like to hunt more than jet hunting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get scared more shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the life that actually hunting shit hunting especially out here feels like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe it's there as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But out here, man, shed hunters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love to shed hunters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all have to get out and shed out and do as much as just busy with spring stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But shed hunting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, shed hunters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a serious group of individuals that I think they're out of to tell you they're hunting spots and they tell you your shit spots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, how they're probably is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: what does it mean to you to to be an athlete?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a great question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think number one is to have a goal that you're working towards and then training towards that goal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in that training it's not only physical but also mental and then even even spiritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's multifaceted as far as
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[SPEAKER_00]: As that goes, but incorporating kind of those main three areas and self-discipline towards a common goal or a goal that you're working towards, I think that makes you an athlete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we're all athletes in general, whether you specifically write a goal down or that's in your mind, I think we're all athletes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I think we all have a potential in the athletes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe, yeah, I guess for a few years, you know, listening in on this, you know, what is it, what is it mean to be in athlete?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How about athleticism?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does athleticism mean to you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think I had this discussion with a lot of people about interested in what athleticism means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's when you are incorporating a little bit more of the movement component, and from our specialty training in general, emphasizing the three-dimensional approach to movement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For example, that's what I would describe as athleticism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't live in a two-dimensional or one-dimensional world, so we shouldn't train like that either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's my big approach and I know I've learned that over the years from others so I can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: claim that as I'm starting that, but that's one point of emphasis that I put in my own training as well as with patients, clients, athletes that we interact with, and for sizing the three-dimensional approach to the training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then again, ultimately working towards that common goal, whether it's to, you know, from a rehab standpoint, to be able to climb the stairs once step after another, or if it's a, you know, Western hunter that's, you know, trying to have success
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I just use the approach of making it that that person that's in front of me that is that's what I'm focused on that's the center understanding if I was in their shoes, you know, I would want to be heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would want to experience, you know, the best care possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And being able to have someone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: being able to admit that, I might not know everything, but I can certainly try my best to help you get those answers on, and again, just going back to making sure that it's centered around that individual that I'm working with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then again, when our time has done maybe face to face, or virtually, it doesn't mean that I'm never going to speak to you again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the goal we're working towards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's the biggest thing is that the principle that I try to live by is making sure that the person in front of me is that's the focus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's say I second that in the fact that I concur with what you say because you are really good at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We really get a listening, you're really good at making that person as in front of you feel like they're important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what our
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, specialty is as healthcare professionals, as therapists, it's really listening to people and seeing what's important to them, and then making that opportunity to diagnose through a
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[SPEAKER_01]: certain things are behaving the way that they are within that body, whether it's being, whether it's expressing itself as pain or just at this function and movement, but you're really good at that and so yeah, I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that comment as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any other thoughts, any other comments you want to share?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, message
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I think we've set it a couple of times on here and if you're not getting the general messages, consistency, get out doors, you know, we all have hashing for what we do and what we experience and obviously the common being here, if you're listening to this podcast is do enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here to support you, here to make sure you work towards those goals, you know, our mission of get you to the mountain and keep you on the mountain for life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's my biggest message to pass on and you still understand that again, once you're part of our community, here forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Eric's fun to get to know you a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope the listeners everyone enjoyed this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Learning about Dr. Smith and how he practices and if you want to work directly with Dr. Smith, you can reach out to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can schedule directly on our website.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very good at again, what he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing patients virtually, helping people who are wanting to be active, if you use this word, might move active
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[SPEAKER_01]: active, active, archers, bow hunters, hunters, you're heading west, you're a white tail hunter, and you should be training, you should be doing the right things, you should have that assessment of that evaluation first, and Dr. Smith, the guy to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Reach out to him, schedule an appointment, book an appointment online with him, he's a great asset, great asset to our team, and a great doctor, a great friend that I'm excited to work with and really
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[SPEAKER_01]: continue to develop processes and systems to help people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what that said, thank you Eric very much, reach out to him, follow him on Instagram, ask him a question, and good night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, President.