Off Beat Paranormal!

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It surrounds us. It's everywhere. Tonight, you will hear from
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the people who live and work within these highly active locations.
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All in the efforts to discover America's Most Haunted. With
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your host, ghost hunter and author, Dan Terry.
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Good evening, dudes and demons. I am Dan Terry, your
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ghost host with The Most Haunted. We've got a new
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one for you. I don't think I've been to Oklahoma yet.
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We've done all through the Midwest, of course, a lot
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in Kansas and Illinois and Arkansas. But we're going to
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a different state this time. We're going to talk about
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different things. Offbeat Paranormal. It's a place for the big questions.
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They're wanting to talk about the good stuff. Their slogan
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is that they're working together with other weirdos to unravel
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the mysteries of high strangeness and the paranormal, which I
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think that's what we're all in here for. So instead
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of going on, these folks, by the way, have done
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some really good ghost hunting recently. They've been in the
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Odd Fellows Orphanage down in, I think it's pronounced Belvoir, Missouri.
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That place started getting really popular right before I left
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for North Carolina. So I never made it to that one.
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Sleeper Mortuary over in Kansas. We've talked to some other
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people who's been there. And of course, the McIntyre Villa
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in Kansas, which we had the owner of that, the
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previous owner. She's gotten rid of it since then. But
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that place was kind of crazy. So these folks ought
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to have plenty to tell you. Plus, they've got a
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little side job they're going to talk about at the end.
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So let me introduce you to the offbeat paranormal.
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Hey, guys.
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Hey, how's it going? All right. So you all have
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done a lot there in the Midwest, but you're in Oklahoma.
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We discussed that.
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Why?
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Why?
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Why are we in Oklahoma?
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Yeah.
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That's a good question.
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Both of our families are from here. We'd rather not
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be here. We're both divorced and have kids, and we
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have to stay here.
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Okay, well, that makes perfect sense.
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Yeah.
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And you were, at one time at least, in North Carolina.
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Yeah, whenever I was in the Air Force and I
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was stationed out there, and then got out and was
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still there for a little while, so I was... Probably
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in about the middle of the state.
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Okay. Well, when I was in the Coast Guard, I
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was stationed in Wilmington, so that's what brought me back
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up here. So I know basically the area you're speaking of.
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Mm-hmm.
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Anywhere else you all have lived, or has it always
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been pretty much Oklahoma?
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I've been here my whole life.
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Okay.
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Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida.
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Okay.
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I guess if you want to count basic training, Texas.
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Okay.
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I lived in Kansas as well. Originally from Southwest Kansas.
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But yeah, so I've lived in a few different places.
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So I know you're close to the spook light then.
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Have you had experiences with that? Because every time I
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went there, it was a nothing night.
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To be honest, I've not been there.
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Oh, really? I'm surprised.
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Yeah. I've not been there. Um, it's hard when you
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grow up in Oklahoma and you're constantly hearing like these
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local legends and the local lore, like to get into it. Um,
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I'm not into anything really that everybody else is into.
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I like to get into the smaller hole in the
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wall stuff. And the spook light is definitely not that, um,
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I have no doubts that people have had their experiences
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and I've heard firsthand. Um, But I probably won't be
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getting out there anytime soon. Okay.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if I've been there.
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I'll never think about it.
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You don't ever think about it. Oklahoma is not known
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for their paranormal attractions.
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I know.
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West Virginia is crazy. But I never thought about Oklahoma.
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And I was in the Midwest. But I've never done
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anything in Oklahoma.
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No, we have a lot of, to be honest, other
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than being in the Bible Belt and everybody kind of
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shying away from anything occult, witchcraft, ghost hunting, you know,
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God forbid you say the word demon in front of somebody.
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But there's also a very strong, very proud Native American
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presence in Oklahoma. And I get goosebumps just thinking about it,
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to be honest. But that's... Being born and raised here,
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you have to be respectful of that. I know many,
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many people who have native blood, and they're all very
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proud and very guarded and safe of their culture. Yeah,
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most of them don't talk about it. I've heard, I
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actually went to a, it was a church service. It was,
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you know, a church service, but they talked about shadow people,
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and they talked about ghosts, and they talked about spirits.
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Right.
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Yeah, it was, it was, it was amazing. It's actually a,
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within an hour here, within maybe even a half hour,
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there's a group of Native Americans out there who meet, uh,
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we actually met in the middle of the field, um,
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with a campfire and we had, you know, hamburgers and
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hot dogs and stuff, but, uh, they did their, their singing,
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their tribal singing and, you know, had a little service
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or whatever and, and then we talked about, they talked about, um,
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just like stories that they heard when they were younger
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or that they've spoke to their family about, or, you know,
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things that they were taught growing up not to say
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or not to do. And even more now that I've
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experienced that, I respect it more and more. So, so
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we don't really do a lot here.
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But you have been to Missouri and Kansas, which are
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the two states I've probably done the most in.
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Yeah.
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So let's, Let's pick Missouri, for instance, Southwest Missouri, the
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Prosperity School. It's a private residence now, but when it
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was a B & B outside of Independence, I think,
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the name of this town was Prosperity. But that place
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was nuts, and it was on television a couple times
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after I was there.
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I'll have to look that up. I know we've done
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a– we did a– What's that place we did in Independence?
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It wasn't the Masons. It was a Masonic temple.
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Yeah, the Masonic temple.
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Yeah, in Independence.
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We got to do that. I've done several former Masonic temples,
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never one that was current. But those places are always.
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Active, I've found.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, and they've got, you know, the rooms
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with all the books and all the ledgers and the
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old photos. And it's... when you hold that much connection
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to the past, it's bound to linger, you know?
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Sure. So can you talk about your investigation there? Or
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are you sworn to secrecy on that one?
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Oh, no, we're not sworn to secrecy on anything. It
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was an event, a Paracon, that we were able to
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go to with Mike and Sam, Mysterious Mike and Sam.
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And we just did, we more or less... kind of
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helped the newcomers with their investigations. We got to take
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part in it, but we kind of helped guided people
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through that hadn't been through it before. So that wasn't
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a deep investigation. But as far as Missouri, yeah, the
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Odd Fellows compound up in Liberty, Missouri at the Belvoir Winery.
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We've been there. We went there actually last New Year's Eve.
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For New Year's Eve, yeah.
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Yeah, we stayed the night. It was, it's, that place
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is amazing. It was, it's the home of, of my
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first like aha moment paranormal encounter. So it'll always have
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a soft spot in my heart.
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You want to talk about that? I've, I've never been there.
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So they, that kind of got popular after I was
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getting ready to leave.
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Well, um, and really after Jesse bought it, um, he
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kind of, he, him and his family are friendly with
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the paranormal. So, uh, you know, they welcome it. They
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welcome all of it. So, um, They have the winery.
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The building is where the old Oddfellas orphanage is. And
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then next door to that is the old nursing home.
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So the Oddfellas nursing home. And then the building next
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to that is the old folks home. And then the
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building next to that is the hospital. So it's a
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compound of four different buildings. And in the back, there's
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something they call the bunker building. And then there's, you know,
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well houses and everything spread around. There's the Oddfellow Cemetery
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up on the hill. And we actually had a pretty
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outstanding encounter the last time we were there. We were
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just visiting the cemetery and being quiet and giving it
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a corner. moment. And I had an experience where what
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I feel was a little boy came up and held
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my hand. There was that really intense, the staticky feeling.
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And it kind of held my fingers together and I
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couldn't really move them. And it was... what three or
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four minutes, maybe more. And so we just stood there
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cause he was getting ready to leave. And I was like, no, no, no,
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I'm not leaving. Like he's still holding onto me. And
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I just had this really deep cause we're both empaths.
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So we both feel a lot. Um, and I just
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had this deep feeling that he wanted me to stay
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and stand with him cause he was lonely and, and,
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and it, it broke my heart. So I stood there
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for as long as he held my hand anyways. But yeah,
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so they conduct investigations currently in the main building where
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the orphanage was, but the other three buildings are.
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Condemned.
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They're not officially condemned, I don't think, but they are
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falling apart. Black mold's taking over. They're dangerous.
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They don't want anybody in there. Like if they were
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to fix those three buildings, they said it'd be to
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the tune of like $ 26 million.
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And that was a year ago.
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Probably even more now. But it's super sad. I was
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recently asked if I was able to investigate anywhere in
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the world with no strings attached where we're to go.
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And I think that more than any place else in
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the world, I would want to go to Belvoir, to
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the Oddfellows compound and go in those buildings. I just
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have a really strange connection to that property. So I
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think I would want to wander those buildings. I would
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want to let someone to let me go and just
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leave me alone and let me like wander around myself.
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Like that's what I want.
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I can understand that.
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McIntyre Villa. Uh, like I said, she, uh, she's been on,
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Stephanie was on the show. She brought some amazing videos
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and EVPs. Would you have any experiences there?
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Uh, yeah, we did.
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Um, one, uh, really cool one. Um, So it's been
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quite a while since I've had any sort of pictures
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as far as like capturing anything on picture. I do
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have one where I got a face that looks.
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I don't know.
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People have different opinions. They all know it's a face,
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but they have different opinions of like what the face
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is doing. There's another picture I have up in the
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window and you can see the hand covering the mouth
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of like what looks like to be a kid. Um,
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it's a small person, a small person with.
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A hand, a large hand, like over their mouth here.
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Oh, wow.
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It's really, it's quite, um, it's off putting for sure.
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Yeah.
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Unfortunately, we were only able to visit the McIntyre once
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before it was transferred.
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Um, the other thing that was so cool. Um, so
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for my birthday last year, uh, uh, this is where the, um,
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Offbeat by Design really started kicking off. She made a
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custom pyrography spirit communication board for me. And it had
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the first four places that we investigated together. It's a
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beautiful board. So this is one of the first times
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that we had gotten a chance to use it.
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And we were.
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Teaching somebody else how to use one at the time.
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And so we were getting it. And we got out,
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we're telling her all the instruction, all the instructions are,
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you know, how to use it, guiding her through the process.
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Thank you.
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You're welcome.
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And we were having somebody come through. First, Amanda had
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asked why we were, or why she was there. You know,
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as in if there's like any connection to the place
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or anything like that. what we did not know, um,
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two rooms over, there was a dead bell, um, placed
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in there from a different group. Cause we were there
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with a couple of different groups. Um, and the girl
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that we were, um, using the board with her daughter
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was laying on the couch inside of that room. The
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dead bell was on the other side on, on, uh, the, uh,
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mantle of the fireplace. Um, But whenever Amanda asked why
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she's there for the one that we're talking to, it
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started spelling out dead. In the middle of dead, the
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dead bell went off. And that was the only time
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the entire night that that bell went off.
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It was really, really cool. We all got a kick
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out of it.
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And her dog was like, Mom!
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Yeah, so.
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It was pretty amazing.
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And before the other groups came, don't forget, we played,
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that was my first time ever playing hide and seek
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with spirits. It was really cool. We put some kind
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of a REM device in each of the rooms.
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Right.
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And I would go and I was, you know, being playful,
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like playing hide and seek with a kid. And I
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would go and try to, oh, it gives me goosebumps.
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And I would go and try to find them. And
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they would set off the REM pod wherever they were.
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And I'd go try to find them. Then they'd set
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off REM pod off in one of the other rooms.
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And then I'd go back and try to find them
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only once that I ended up at the same room
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that it went off. So, and that's, I assume I
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found them, you know, it was, it was, it was
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so much fun.
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Sounds like it.
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Yeah.
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So you guys are making stocking boards or which boards,
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however you want to say it.
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Spirit boards.
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Spirit boards. Spirit boards. That works, too. I'm trying to
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stay away from the Ouija words.
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It's just a brand name.
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Oh, yeah.
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But what is your opinion on those? I still have
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people that swear they're evil or all of this. My
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good friend down in St. Louis has a whole museum
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of them, and he uses them a lot.
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Yeah.
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What's your opinion?
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It's IP. It's a tool like anything else. I'm a
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natural skeptic, to be honest. I started out as a woodworker.
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I used to do a lot of woodworking and I
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love art. I'm an artist at heart. So it just
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happened to be that I made him that spirit board
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last August. And, you know, my care and my passion
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went into that. And then, you know, I used a
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board for the first time after that. And being a
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skeptic at heart, there are still times that I doubt
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what's happening, but it's been so often that we're able
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to look back into newspaper articles or news articles and see. Yeah.
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So it collaborates with whatever, you know, we've gotten. And
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so it's, it's, Pretty amazing. I mean, I don't think
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it's any different than a voice recorder or a ghost
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box or yeah, anything like that.
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It's just a piece of wood, but it's the intention
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you put behind it. If you're going to put evil
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intention behind it.
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I do believe though, because when I make these, I
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make these very, very pure, very good intentions. Only good
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energy goes into them for the person they're being made for.
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They start out clean. There's nothing attached. There's nothing staining it.
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It's not jaded in any way. I do believe that
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there are boards out there, probably many of them that
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have been through the ringer and they could have a
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lot of bad energy in them. And depending on what
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they're used for could bring bad things out. You know,
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you could turn one of these boards into something like
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that if you wanted to, I advise against.
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It, but, um, Yeah, we've come across a bad board before. And, like,
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it was hard to even go near it, to be honest. Like,
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it had razor blades in it and everything else.
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Oh, my God.
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They had built it, and then they did resin. They
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basically drowned everything in resin. And it was just... It
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was not a good board. But it was not made
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for good intention, either. So.
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But....
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We spent time at the Talking Board Historical Museum as well,
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up in Salem.
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Okay.
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We had a board session in there. It was pretty intense.
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We got a guy, we asked one of the guys
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who was there and he spelled out, what was his name?
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The one guy that got pressed.
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Oh, yeah, I know who you mean. Yeah.
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We got his last name.
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Yeah.
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And we were doing it with a big group of
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people because.
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Corey. Giles Corey.
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Giles Corey, yeah.
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Yeah.
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We were doing it with a big group of people there.
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And John was there, too, kind of watching and all
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this stuff.
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It was.
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Yeah.
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We had to call him in at one point because
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of what we were getting. But it was pretty intense.
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It was cool.
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Yeah.
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That is intriguing. Yeah.
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I'd like to also. We were out. in Arkansas this
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last weekend on a Bigfoot hunt. And if you ever
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want to go on a Bigfoot hunt, Arkansas is the
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place to do it.
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I've been invited by two different groups.
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You said you've been invited by two different groups? Yes.
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Specifically, one was the Boggy Creek Monster. They've sent me
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audios of him.
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Screaming out in the woods yeah but um it would
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be interesting to take one of the boards out there
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because when we were there in the woods um it
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had been raining it had just gotten done pouring down
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rain we were walking it was still sprinkling on us
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it was just becoming dark i mean things get spooky
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when it starts to get dark yes but this was
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deeper this was a this was an internal This was
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something paranormal. You know, we're used to that feeling. And
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so I think the relationship between Bigfoot slash cryptids and
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the paranormal is closer than people realize. So I would be.
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I didn't realize it was that level.
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Yeah.
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This weekend opened up my eyes.
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But I'd be interested in taking a board out there
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and seeing if something wouldn't come through on a board.
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When you bring that up, and I've talked to other
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groups about this, I'm thinking specifically of Skinwalker Ranch or
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the Marley Woods, which are not all that far from.
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Yeah.
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Point Pleasant, West Virginia during the Mothman deal. They had
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men in black. They had unidentified flying objects.
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1,000%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They had ghosts. They had poltergeist activity.
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Exactly.
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The Marley Woods.
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Yes.
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Poltergeist activity while there's UFOs flowing all around them and cryptids.
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Right.
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So why are these things connected? Are they connected or
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is this some kind of weird coincidence?
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Our belief is they're absolutely completely connected.
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Yeah.
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I think we share that belief.
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Oh, yeah.
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They're ultra terrestrials.
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Which basically it's a being that can slip in and
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out of.
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The dimensional capacity they're of this earth but not of
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this earth they're not on this plane they're on they
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are between the dimensions i'm so fidgety and uh sorry.
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Like it just our experiences this past weekend like it
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just pushed it even more into that aspect because um
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stuff was happening and We could not see what was
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going on. There was one point. So a lot of
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stuff was falling and got thrown at us and tapped
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on shoulder, all that kind of stuff. But the biggest
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one is a branch. For the second time that weekend,
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a branch almost fell on her. But right after.
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I was under a single tree each time. A single,
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because these trees are tall. They're narrow and they're very tall.
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But.
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It was twice. And we got it recorded on actually
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Facebook Live one time. But a large branch just fell
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out of a tree that I was underneath. And I
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hear it coming because you can hear it hitting the
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branches up top. And I run, thank God, out of
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the way.
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Yeah.
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And then right after that. Um, I was standing under
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another tree, the next tree, the next tree, about 15
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feet away in a rush of water from all the
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leaves on the top of that tree just came down
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at once.
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It doused him. I watched it all at once. I
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looked up immediately. There was absolutely nothing in that tree.
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All right.
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So there was no wind. It had been still, uh,
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and it was just that one tree.
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Just that one tree, nothing else.
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I looked around, there were no other trees being blown
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or dripping or anything because it had been a little
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while since it had rained. So what I think happened
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is whatever was there, we were unable to see. It
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was in the treetops because we had been getting sounds
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from the treetops. We had been getting motion from the
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treetops that we weren't able to see any figures up
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there or anything. What I imagine probably happened is whatever
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was up there that was picking on me, threw down
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that branch or whatever at me and then went to
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the next tree, caused a ruckus and all the water
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came down. He was trying to get away, I assume.
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It was really special. It was really a very cool experience.
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I mean, I'm not gonna say I wasn't creeped out.
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I was actually a little pissed off to be honest.
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Because I don't like, I'm the only woman in the
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group and the smallest person in the group, I don't
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like being targeted. It makes me angry. And I was,
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I'm pretty sure they have ESP and they could read
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my thoughts. And I was clearly saying, you mess with
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me one more time, buddy, we're gonna go at it.
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So I didn't get it.
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There's a giant footstep on her earlier, like 30 minutes
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before that tree incident.
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Dude, so I was walking. No, we were walking like
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in the group. And everybody tried to keep me. Cause
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I have, I have a tendency to wander and adventure
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a little bit like on my own. Cause I'm comfortable
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with that. So I was in the back of the group,
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but it was when it was starting to get dark.
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Yeah.
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And.
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And there is a.
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Oh God.
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I remember it. There is an active four on one
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case in that area where we weren't to.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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The exact area. There's an active four on one case.
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Somebody disappeared. They found his clothes and his shoes. Put
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together two miles away.
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Very strong.
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Yeah.
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But we're walking.
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It's.
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You can hear like frogs. That's about it. And there
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was a step. I heard it and I felt it
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right behind me, maybe this far from the back of my, oh, fudge,
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this far from the back of my foot. I heard it.
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I knew the feeling. You know when there's something right
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behind you, you can just feel it. The spatial awareness
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of your hearing changes.
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I heard it.
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I turned and I looked. And I thought, I thought
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JD was behind us, our friend or behind me, but no,
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he was over here to me. It wasn't JD. So
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I turned, ran across the creek and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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And I ran to the middle of the group. I said,
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oh my God, there was just a footstep behind me.
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And then to end it all, I heard cackling, laughing
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in the woods to my left.
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00:26:37.529 --> 00:26:38.109
Human?
501
00:26:38.950 --> 00:26:39.930
Huh?
502
00:26:40.009 --> 00:26:40.859
A human laugh?
503
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.880
It did not sound human, no.
504
00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:42.410
Okay.
505
00:26:42.430 --> 00:26:42.579
Okay.
506
00:26:43.109 --> 00:26:45.650
No, it was like, we were buried deep in the
507
00:26:45.730 --> 00:26:47.940
Ozark forest. There was no one around us.
508
00:26:48.190 --> 00:26:51.059
Yeah, no, it wasn't, it wasn't human laughing. It was
509
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:54.839
whatever it was, was very delighted about how it scared me.
510
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:58.210
Cause I don't, and I told the boys, cause I,
511
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.900
you know, I, I don't know if I squealed a
512
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:02.759
little bit or what, but I was like, I don't,
513
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.339
I don't yell. I don't scream. I'm not a screamer.
514
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.519
I don't get scared. Um, unless you jump from behind
515
00:27:09.579 --> 00:27:13.640
a wall or something and go blah, but, uh, yeah,
516
00:27:14.180 --> 00:27:16.720
that was a, that was a very intense moment.
517
00:27:17.380 --> 00:27:19.869
Sounds like it. Hey guys, I do have to dive
518
00:27:19.930 --> 00:27:21.609
away here for just a couple of minutes for a
519
00:27:21.650 --> 00:27:24.069
quick commercial break, which hold on. I'll be right back.
520
00:27:24.450 --> 00:27:24.730
Okay.
521
00:27:25.349 --> 00:27:25.670
All right.
522
00:27:25.710 --> 00:27:29.430
Thanks. I'll be right back with you. You know, I've
523
00:27:29.450 --> 00:27:32.609
been wanting to do a cryptid hunt and I've been
524
00:27:32.630 --> 00:27:36.170
invited all over when I do these shows, uh, people, Hey,
525
00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:40.859
come on down to Tennessee, Kentucky, right here in North Carolina. Um,
526
00:27:41.990 --> 00:27:45.849
Boggy Creek there in Arkansas. I think it's got a
527
00:27:45.890 --> 00:27:49.049
different name, but that's what the locals call it. I
528
00:27:49.069 --> 00:27:50.710
think I'm going to have to do that because they
529
00:27:50.750 --> 00:27:54.940
make it sound pretty exciting. I wonder if I'd get much, though,
530
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.140
because you all know me. I don't go anywhere without
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00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:01.400
a 45 on, so who knows? Hey, I do want
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the World Wide Web. The Unexplained Network, where unexplained lives. Hey, guys.
550
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You know, I always discuss y'all joining the NX Network
551
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and all the reasons why you should. We'll do that later.
552
00:29:42.450 --> 00:29:44.779
But I want to get back to my friends here
553
00:29:44.859 --> 00:29:47.619
and talk more about the cryptid hunt they were on
554
00:29:47.700 --> 00:29:50.660
or cryptid walk, whatever you want to call it. Did
555
00:29:50.700 --> 00:29:53.599
anything else happen?
556
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.079
I mean, lots happened.
557
00:29:55.259 --> 00:29:57.059
There was a ton of structures.
558
00:29:58.390 --> 00:29:59.869
Well, explain what a structure is.
559
00:29:59.990 --> 00:30:03.349
So for those that don't know, a structure is trees
560
00:30:03.430 --> 00:30:07.799
that are bent in specific ways that a normal human
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00:30:07.859 --> 00:30:08.759
cannot bend the tree.
562
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:10.339
Okay.
563
00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:14.119
And so you're having these tall trees and they're bent
564
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.750
into like the V of another tree and it holds
565
00:30:18.789 --> 00:30:19.109
it there.
566
00:30:19.710 --> 00:30:21.009
Yeah. Okay.
567
00:30:21.730 --> 00:30:25.809
And you're, I mean, you're talking about very tall pine trees, right?
568
00:30:25.849 --> 00:30:25.990
Yeah.
569
00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:29.119
And tree after tree after tree in these woods.
570
00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:35.180
And they're bent around X's. I mean, it's... We found
571
00:30:35.740 --> 00:30:41.539
one place. It was definitely a structure. It had several
572
00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:46.940
going different ways. We found like a knuckle print, a
573
00:30:46.980 --> 00:30:48.460
possible knuckle print that was there.
574
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:50.140
I found my own on the hill.
575
00:30:50.220 --> 00:30:50.960
You did? The double.
576
00:30:52.980 --> 00:30:53.710
And so.
577
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.319
Why we say knuckle prints is because there is definitely
578
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:03.859
a belief that Bigfoot is quadrupedal, not bipedal. So he
579
00:31:03.900 --> 00:31:06.240
walks in all fours because a lot of reports are
580
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:12.359
of him standing up. Once they see him. And so
581
00:31:12.380 --> 00:31:16.200
the imprints from the knuckles in there. We passed a
582
00:31:16.259 --> 00:31:19.420
point for like a slab of a rock. And then
583
00:31:19.460 --> 00:31:24.009
when we walked back past it, there was six rocks standing.
584
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.960
sitting on that slab. And there were six of us
585
00:31:27.029 --> 00:31:29.509
that were there.
586
00:31:29.589 --> 00:31:32.029
The rocks had been stacked between the time that we
587
00:31:32.069 --> 00:31:34.029
went into the woods and came out of the woods.
588
00:31:34.109 --> 00:31:35.509
It was right on the side of the trail.
589
00:31:36.529 --> 00:31:38.509
What do you think that was? Is that a threat
590
00:31:38.630 --> 00:31:39.150
or a gift?
591
00:31:41.269 --> 00:31:43.089
There's really no way to answer that question.
592
00:31:43.109 --> 00:31:46.450
Because we had it happen twice outside of our tent.
593
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.839
It happened outside, right at the head, like where our
594
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:51.799
head was when we were sleeping, right on the other
595
00:31:51.819 --> 00:31:55.079
side of the fabric of the tent. We had five
596
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.500
more stacked up because the other guy had left. He
597
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.900
didn't stay the night there, but there were five of
598
00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:02.460
us there and there were five more rocks stacked above
599
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:04.579
the head of our tent. They were not there when
600
00:32:04.619 --> 00:32:08.630
we put the tent up period. They weren't there. That's intriguing.
601
00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:09.130
Yeah.
602
00:32:09.569 --> 00:32:09.809
Yeah.
603
00:32:09.990 --> 00:32:15.150
It was crazy. I mean, thing after thing after thing happened,
604
00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:18.619
we heard, you know, or they heard we were gone
605
00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:20.680
cause I had to pee, but we were at the
606
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.900
bathroom and the, the rest of the guys heard some
607
00:32:24.940 --> 00:32:27.779
kind of, have you ever, probably not, look up the
608
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:32.559
Sierra sounds after here and listen to the Sierra sounds
609
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.599
and that's what they were hearing in the area across
610
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.259
the river. And this is a campground where families are
611
00:32:40.299 --> 00:32:43.009
coming to camp and kids are playing, babies are floating
612
00:32:43.049 --> 00:32:46.150
in the water. I mean, this is a public campground
613
00:32:46.250 --> 00:32:50.430
and you just step right into the woods and things
614
00:32:50.450 --> 00:32:53.549
start to get weird, you know? I was able to
615
00:32:53.589 --> 00:32:59.230
debunk one thing that weekend, though, that three-toed footprint is
616
00:32:59.309 --> 00:33:00.730
a nine-banded armadillo.
617
00:33:01.329 --> 00:33:02.190
Okay.
618
00:33:02.589 --> 00:33:02.769
Yeah.
619
00:33:03.089 --> 00:33:06.269
So it's nothing to be excited about. It's a nine-banded armadillo.
620
00:33:08.579 --> 00:33:09.039
All right.
621
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:10.390
They look really cool, though.
622
00:33:11.059 --> 00:33:15.099
You all have been doing this cryptid thing for a
623
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.839
little bit. And what is your conclusion or your opinion?
624
00:33:20.140 --> 00:33:21.599
That was our first hunt, actually.
625
00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:22.660
Oh, okay.
626
00:33:23.849 --> 00:33:27.289
We've done a lot of research into it beforehand. Yeah.
627
00:33:27.450 --> 00:33:31.750
Oh, we love the documentaries. We love reading articles. We,
628
00:33:32.029 --> 00:33:33.319
we just, we eat it up.
629
00:33:33.670 --> 00:33:34.230
Yeah.
630
00:33:34.289 --> 00:33:39.190
So do you think Bigfoot is an intelligent creature that
631
00:33:39.230 --> 00:33:42.319
can go through at will to dimensions or is he
632
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.700
an animal with that particular defensive skill?
633
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.500
See, that's, that's what's funny is our friends that we
634
00:33:47.539 --> 00:33:49.920
were there with, they believe he is a physical animal.
635
00:33:50.750 --> 00:33:54.329
um that's not my belief that's not his belief either
636
00:33:55.009 --> 00:33:58.670
um that he is some kind of a supernatural being
637
00:33:59.170 --> 00:34:02.440
whether it be an ultra terrestrial or a spirit or
638
00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:05.519
whatever we don't know um and i can't begin to
639
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.779
guess but he's my belief he sees some kind of
640
00:34:07.819 --> 00:34:10.670
a supernatural being that can go in and out of
641
00:34:10.710 --> 00:34:14.150
these slips and appear and disappear whenever he wants to
642
00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:18.940
because i mean it's it's If you dive into these reports,
643
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.840
these Bigfoot reports and these other cryptid reports, they disappear
644
00:34:22.900 --> 00:34:27.519
almost in thin air. People are watching these characters or
645
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:33.030
these creatures and they just disappear. If it was a
646
00:34:33.130 --> 00:34:34.889
flesh and blood animal, that would not happen.
647
00:34:35.409 --> 00:34:35.730
Right.
648
00:34:36.250 --> 00:34:38.690
How else do you explain that?
649
00:34:39.570 --> 00:34:41.230
Like I said, it can go in and out of
650
00:34:41.289 --> 00:34:43.989
dimensions as a defensive skill.
651
00:34:44.309 --> 00:34:44.610
Yeah.
652
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.320
Some lizards can change colors.
653
00:34:48.099 --> 00:34:48.320
Right.
654
00:34:48.340 --> 00:34:49.000
Yeah.
655
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.179
I think there's so much more to our reality than
656
00:34:52.219 --> 00:34:52.880
we realize.
657
00:34:52.940 --> 00:34:56.179
Like, if it didn't, you know, how could a nine-foot
658
00:34:56.409 --> 00:34:59.449
creature jump 15 feet over your head and you not
659
00:34:59.510 --> 00:35:00.530
even know that it was there?
660
00:35:00.849 --> 00:35:01.030
Yeah.
661
00:35:01.070 --> 00:35:01.309
Right.
662
00:35:02.530 --> 00:35:02.730
Yeah.
663
00:35:03.130 --> 00:35:05.449
But we're actually, we're going to, we're going to be
664
00:35:05.489 --> 00:35:11.409
vendors at the Goblin Con in Hopkinsville. Yes. The Kelly
665
00:35:11.429 --> 00:35:12.349
Hopkinsville Goblin.
666
00:35:12.369 --> 00:35:12.590
Yes.
667
00:35:12.750 --> 00:35:14.190
I've been wanting to get down to there.
668
00:35:14.710 --> 00:35:14.929
Well.
669
00:35:15.809 --> 00:35:17.750
The Goblin Con's at the end of August. You should
670
00:35:17.769 --> 00:35:18.789
come see us because we're going.
671
00:35:18.710 --> 00:35:19.030
To be there.
672
00:35:19.769 --> 00:35:20.269
All right.
673
00:35:20.670 --> 00:35:23.289
And also one of the kids that grew up in
674
00:35:23.309 --> 00:35:28.329
the home that was national news with the Goblin, the
675
00:35:28.670 --> 00:35:34.550
Goblins attacked them or whatever. I say attack very loosely.
676
00:35:35.070 --> 00:35:38.869
But she's also going to be there. But we're going
677
00:35:39.929 --> 00:35:43.139
a few days early to kind of adventure around. And
678
00:35:43.550 --> 00:35:44.409
have you seen Hellier?
679
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:47.679
I don't think so.
680
00:35:47.699 --> 00:35:47.969
Okay.
681
00:35:48.010 --> 00:35:52.530
So, uh, Greg and Dana Newkirk, they're paranormal researchers, um,
682
00:35:53.170 --> 00:35:57.449
for a very, very, very long time. And their, their
683
00:35:58.369 --> 00:36:01.409
journey has kind of developed the way ours has. They
684
00:36:01.449 --> 00:36:05.909
started out as ghost hunters and then things started connecting.
685
00:36:06.110 --> 00:36:12.500
Things started, um, Just evolving. Yeah. Your beliefs evolve and
686
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.159
then you're like, oh, what about this? What about this?
687
00:36:14.219 --> 00:36:16.280
And you do a little more research, get further in.
688
00:36:16.260 --> 00:36:16.980
That rabbit hole.
689
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.590
And then the whole world is aliens are real and
690
00:36:20.630 --> 00:36:24.210
Bigfoot is real and there's other dimensions and those are
691
00:36:24.309 --> 00:36:28.110
UFOs in the sky. And I mean, but anyhow, they
692
00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:31.909
have a documentary called Hellier and the first season begins
693
00:36:31.989 --> 00:36:36.090
with the Kelly Hopkinsville goblins. And so we want to
694
00:36:36.130 --> 00:36:38.610
get there. I want to get there. I want to
695
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:41.000
look for footprints. I want to go to the caves.
696
00:36:41.860 --> 00:36:45.500
We know a local team there in Hopkinsville that has
697
00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:48.980
some information about places we can go. So super excited
698
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:49.460
about that.
699
00:36:50.260 --> 00:36:53.909
What are you looking for in Hopkinsville? The same aliens
700
00:36:53.929 --> 00:36:55.170
that they allegedly fought?
701
00:36:56.150 --> 00:37:01.829
I hope so. I hope so. I would settle for
702
00:37:01.849 --> 00:37:05.619
a footprint or a weird feeling, to be honest. I've
703
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:06.480
always wanted to go.
704
00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:06.559
So.
705
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:14.659
The Hopkinsville Goblins are probably my favorite cryptid. And I
706
00:37:14.699 --> 00:37:18.659
believe they could be aliens. I believe that aliens can
707
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.889
be cryptids too. I mean, they're all one in the same,
708
00:37:21.949 --> 00:37:22.289
I think.
709
00:37:23.909 --> 00:37:28.809
We were at Point Pleasant earlier this year. And West
710
00:37:28.849 --> 00:37:32.590
Virginia and all that kind of stuff. Creepiest. If anyone
711
00:37:32.650 --> 00:37:34.949
ever asks, what is the creepiest state in the United States?
712
00:37:35.590 --> 00:37:36.340
West Virginia.
713
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:36.440
Yeah.
714
00:37:36.789 --> 00:37:38.769
West Virginia, right?
715
00:37:39.010 --> 00:37:39.750
Without a doubt.
716
00:37:40.829 --> 00:37:43.010
Remind me, I've got to send you the information. There's
717
00:37:43.190 --> 00:37:47.670
a couple of boats there that the Army had welded together.
718
00:37:47.710 --> 00:37:54.889
They were actually dredgers. And sent them to Europe during
719
00:37:54.929 --> 00:37:57.789
World War II to use as a hospital boat. And
720
00:37:57.809 --> 00:38:02.869
it was actually anchored off the coast of Omaha Beach. Wow.
721
00:38:03.289 --> 00:38:06.309
But one of them before they welded them together to
722
00:38:06.349 --> 00:38:10.050
make one ship, one of them had accidentally dug up
723
00:38:10.329 --> 00:38:13.440
a Indian burial mound that had been buried in the water.
724
00:38:14.980 --> 00:38:19.559
And so this ship is incredibly haunted between the soldiers
725
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:24.059
and this. And they have it up on, I think
726
00:38:24.099 --> 00:38:27.139
on a pedestal now, so people can go in and
727
00:38:27.300 --> 00:38:30.849
investigate it. It's really wild. And it's in West Virginia.
728
00:38:31.269 --> 00:38:33.010
I don't know that I would, I don't know.
729
00:38:34.409 --> 00:38:38.989
I don't, anything having to do with Indian burial grounds,
730
00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:39.389
I'm out.
731
00:38:42.070 --> 00:38:46.659
Well, that was 95 years ago, so I'm sure they've
732
00:38:46.860 --> 00:38:49.820
forgiven them by now. But it's a thought. I mean,
733
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:54.139
there's so much there in West Virginia. It's the Flatwoods
734
00:38:54.179 --> 00:39:01.579
Monster and the Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum and the prison nearby.
735
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:03.179
Oh, there's so much.
736
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:05.320
For those that are big fans of Greg and Dana,
737
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.429
we did see something else in West Virginia. I mean,
738
00:39:12.150 --> 00:39:14.989
that's your story to tell. You can tell that one.
739
00:39:15.789 --> 00:39:19.739
Oh, well, yeah. So one of the things in Hellier
740
00:39:20.340 --> 00:39:26.219
is strange occurrences that happen that link together to lead
741
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.300
somebody to a different place or on a certain path.
742
00:39:31.780 --> 00:39:32.400
Synchronicities.
743
00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:38.809
Synchronicities. So when these synchronicities happen, it basically guides you
744
00:39:38.829 --> 00:39:43.469
to whatever spirit, wherever they want you to go. And
745
00:39:43.530 --> 00:39:45.869
one of the synchronicities in Hellier is a mylar balloon.
746
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:53.360
those shiny um balloons that you get for your birthday
747
00:39:53.579 --> 00:40:00.329
or whatever um or get well so now that i
748
00:40:00.389 --> 00:40:04.769
am involved in that in thought um i see mylar
749
00:40:04.789 --> 00:40:09.639
balloons in the strangest places um And we were, it
750
00:40:09.659 --> 00:40:12.679
was the weirdest thing. So we were driving West Virginia
751
00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:16.309
on those roads, you know, by the river, in the mountains,
752
00:40:16.409 --> 00:40:19.309
the windy ones that people are insane on and you
753
00:40:19.349 --> 00:40:23.969
can't avoid anything. But he was just waking up from
754
00:40:24.010 --> 00:40:28.179
a nap and I'm driving and this Mylar balloon, this
755
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:33.199
happy birthday Mylar balloon comes floating across the road at
756
00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:36.730
the same height. It does not wiggle left or right
757
00:40:36.849 --> 00:40:39.389
it does not go up or down it doesn't rotate
758
00:40:39.510 --> 00:40:42.889
anything it is straight and it goes right in front
759
00:40:42.909 --> 00:40:47.699
of my car doesn't change height doesn't change anything it
760
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.679
just floats across the road i freak out because we're
761
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.539
already we just had this before after.
762
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:56.880
Old hospital this is our old hospital because.
763
00:40:56.699 --> 00:40:58.639
We had just been at old hospital on college hill
764
00:40:58.659 --> 00:41:01.780
the night before and had some weird stuff happen there
765
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.599
um and then i had this huge synchronicity happen just,
766
00:41:06.980 --> 00:41:09.400
it's just like a sign letting you know you're on
767
00:41:09.420 --> 00:41:12.039
the right path. You know, where you're at is where
768
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.579
you need to be. So yeah, for people that have
769
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.800
seen Hellier, Mylar balloons, tin cans, I found a tin
770
00:41:18.820 --> 00:41:24.059
can this last weekend that looked exactly, yeah. So you'll
771
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:25.550
have to watch it. You'll have to watch it.
772
00:41:25.610 --> 00:41:32.510
Okay. I'll check that out. The Hopkinsville incident. So you
773
00:41:32.550 --> 00:41:35.489
don't think that was aliens or you think that aliens
774
00:41:35.730 --> 00:41:38.110
are Living still in those caves?
775
00:41:38.969 --> 00:41:43.710
I think that, my personal opinion, they are ultra-terrestrial beings, aliens,
776
00:41:43.989 --> 00:41:49.260
living in the caves and coming out. Yeah, I think
777
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:50.480
they call them goblins.
778
00:41:51.260 --> 00:41:56.360
Because they take the shape of them. And so that's however,
779
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:57.639
whatever kind of description.
780
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.059
Well, not only that, you're freaked out. You're looking at
781
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.300
something that's silver and able to float. and has pointy ears,
782
00:42:05.590 --> 00:42:09.909
and you're thinking, what the heck? Which actually, research shows
783
00:42:10.230 --> 00:42:15.190
that with firsthand experiences, that the ears that the Hopkinsville
784
00:42:15.210 --> 00:42:17.650
goblins had very well could have been a headpiece.
785
00:42:18.710 --> 00:42:20.030
Makes sense, yeah.
786
00:42:20.090 --> 00:42:23.170
Because there was something else connecting them that could have
787
00:42:23.190 --> 00:42:29.110
been a headpiece. It does make sense. So there's no telling.
788
00:42:30.059 --> 00:42:32.760
Well, if you dive further into it too, if you
789
00:42:32.780 --> 00:42:37.099
go into the missing 411 and all those kinds of
790
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.619
cases and the experiences with the cave systems, you got
791
00:42:40.659 --> 00:42:45.389
the mammoth cave system over there, you have a lot
792
00:42:45.409 --> 00:42:50.769
of the national parks and everything else. And then, you know,
793
00:42:50.889 --> 00:42:55.659
with that going on, you know, the aliens might not
794
00:42:55.699 --> 00:42:59.309
be coming from above. They might be coming from a,
795
00:43:00.489 --> 00:43:02.219
are water from the oceans.
796
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:03.030
And the cave systems.
797
00:43:03.090 --> 00:43:03.980
And the cave systems.
798
00:43:04.780 --> 00:43:08.800
Mammoth cave system, the amount, like you were saying, the
799
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:16.340
amount of reports around the mammoth cave system, it's proof
800
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.559
itself if you map all of it. Yeah.
801
00:43:20.579 --> 00:43:24.000
And there's a giant underwater lake in the middle of
802
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.519
the United States, and there are zero cases reported there.
803
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:36.079
for 411 cases. So it's all very, there's so much
804
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:41.280
that surrounds the national parks and the cave systems within
805
00:43:41.300 --> 00:43:44.099
the United States. It's just, it's a deep dive.
806
00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:45.619
Okay.
807
00:43:45.659 --> 00:43:47.860
Sorry, yeah, everything we do is a deep dive.
808
00:43:48.380 --> 00:43:51.460
Oh, no, that's great. That's why I invited you along.
809
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.219
We want to stop real quick and just chat a
810
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.159
little bit about, is it offbeat design?
811
00:43:59.050 --> 00:44:00.630
Offbeat by design. Yeah.
812
00:44:00.650 --> 00:44:03.369
Okay. So what are you producing?
813
00:44:05.329 --> 00:44:07.199
Oh, the majority of what we do right now is
814
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.679
probably custom merch for paranormal teams.
815
00:44:11.179 --> 00:44:11.940
Okay.
816
00:44:12.420 --> 00:44:17.320
We do our own kind of offbeat humor, t-shirts and stickers.
817
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.500
Those are really popular. Our stickers are really popular. The t-shirts,
818
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:26.460
we do cryptids and ghosts and aliens and.
819
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:27.519
Trauma.
820
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:34.889
Yeah. We do really inappropriate stuff. It's just we get
821
00:44:34.929 --> 00:44:38.320
a little witchy. We get a little eclectic. We just
822
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:43.699
have fun, honestly. When Philip and I met, we clicked
823
00:44:44.179 --> 00:44:47.000
as far as our senses of humor and what we
824
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.900
were into. And it's like, you know, we want to
825
00:44:50.940 --> 00:44:54.019
do this. It would be hilarious to be able to
826
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.800
wear T-shirts all the time portraying our humor.
827
00:44:57.670 --> 00:45:00.130
You know, so I do like the little ghost with
828
00:45:00.150 --> 00:45:02.590
the bird. That's pretty good.
829
00:45:03.150 --> 00:45:03.449
Yeah.
830
00:45:04.170 --> 00:45:04.530
Yeah.
831
00:45:04.829 --> 00:45:06.010
Got our little mascot.
832
00:45:06.630 --> 00:45:10.719
Yeah. So, yeah, the ghost is the ghost is the
833
00:45:10.739 --> 00:45:16.960
mascot for offbeat paranormal. And I have the offbeat by
834
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.239
design here is the can you see that?
835
00:45:19.699 --> 00:45:19.980
Yes.
836
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:25.400
That's the middle finger there. So actually, this is one
837
00:45:25.420 --> 00:45:32.059
of my most popular shirts. okay yeah and then on
838
00:45:32.099 --> 00:45:35.159
the front you got yourself a nice big middle finger
839
00:45:35.219 --> 00:45:40.219
so but which is our most popular sticker I think
840
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.320
the middle finger sticker people really like it.
841
00:45:43.980 --> 00:45:48.699
So but we've kind of planted them randomly across the
842
00:45:48.739 --> 00:45:49.599
United States.
843
00:45:52.460 --> 00:45:55.639
You've got some the boards we were talking about the
844
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.699
spirit boards Yeah.
845
00:45:57.820 --> 00:46:03.570
These are two we've done. We do several just generic
846
00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:08.349
boards that aren't personalized, but I've done probably 15 custom
847
00:46:08.369 --> 00:46:11.949
boards for people to their own preference. They can choose
848
00:46:12.010 --> 00:46:15.750
everything from wood type, size, what you want your planchette
849
00:46:15.769 --> 00:46:18.429
to look like, what graphics you want on there, what
850
00:46:18.449 --> 00:46:20.269
you want your font to be looking like.
851
00:46:20.730 --> 00:46:23.269
And these are not haunted.
852
00:46:23.869 --> 00:46:25.329
Yeah, no, they're not haunted.
853
00:46:27.170 --> 00:46:30.469
We are we went to a we were at an
854
00:46:30.550 --> 00:46:34.110
oddity show an oddity show keep in mind and people
855
00:46:34.150 --> 00:46:36.579
were refusing to walk into our booth they saw that
856
00:46:36.659 --> 00:46:39.639
they saw the boards and gave them the side eye.
857
00:46:39.539 --> 00:46:43.619
And looked horrified and kept walking yeah.
858
00:46:45.460 --> 00:46:48.800
So why do you think people are hanging on to
859
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.630
that is the fear of demons that prevalent because I
860
00:46:52.659 --> 00:46:55.130
don't think they're around very much that's very.
861
00:46:54.909 --> 00:46:58.889
Rare The exorcist kind of played a big role in that. Well,
862
00:46:58.909 --> 00:47:02.469
I think religion plays a huge role in that. Religion, too.
863
00:47:02.650 --> 00:47:08.219
I think Christianity itself is... Yeah, that's another discussion.
864
00:47:09.820 --> 00:47:17.019
But, yeah, I mean, anything trying to talk with anything
865
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.820
other than the living is, unless if it's called angel, is...
866
00:47:21.369 --> 00:47:23.809
considered a demon among um.
867
00:47:23.969 --> 00:47:27.110
A lot of groups some some religions sure.
868
00:47:27.429 --> 00:47:32.349
Yeah yeah um and so uh you just gotta tread
869
00:47:32.409 --> 00:47:34.650
careful and then the other part of that is they
870
00:47:34.690 --> 00:47:36.929
had experience in high school that scared the crap out
871
00:47:36.949 --> 00:47:39.309
of them or middle school or elementary school and.
872
00:47:39.469 --> 00:47:41.190
They're like oh i'm never touching one of those again
873
00:47:41.289 --> 00:47:43.670
i was hit and i you know a friend of
874
00:47:43.710 --> 00:47:46.170
mine brought one of those over and we talked to
875
00:47:46.210 --> 00:47:47.789
something and it freaked us all.
876
00:47:47.809 --> 00:47:50.889
Out and I've had a bunch of those on the show.
877
00:47:50.989 --> 00:47:54.969
I get what you're talking about. So is there a
878
00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:58.840
particular website or anything where they can find your ghost
879
00:47:58.860 --> 00:47:59.449
with the finger?
880
00:48:01.780 --> 00:48:08.840
Yeah. So we're on YouTube for Offbeat Paranormal. We got
881
00:48:09.219 --> 00:48:12.920
a TikTok that's more on the design part of it,
882
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:17.059
but we kind of mix it up. There's Instagram, there's
883
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.300
Facebook for both.
884
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.219
We're very, very active on the Facebook, I think. There's
885
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.079
a really good community of investigators on there that we're
886
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:25.199
just really close to.
887
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:34.300
Yeah, we absolutely love our paranormal community. And then our webpage, offonpurpose.com.
888
00:48:35.659 --> 00:48:38.110
You can see what all we do. There's a lot
889
00:48:38.130 --> 00:48:40.710
we don't have on there that we sell at the
890
00:48:40.989 --> 00:48:41.989
conventions that we're at.
891
00:48:42.050 --> 00:48:42.269
Okay.
892
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.139
We kind of do that for a reason to kind
893
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:46.860
of be like, Oh, this is what they got when
894
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.880
they have what they have at the, at the show.
895
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.360
And so we got a lot of good stuff that
896
00:48:52.550 --> 00:48:56.329
at the event. So Goblin Con we're going to be at,
897
00:48:56.369 --> 00:49:03.590
we're going to, there's Central Kansas Paracon in September. October
898
00:49:03.670 --> 00:49:08.010
is Arkansas Paranormal Expo. And November is Chumming with the
899
00:49:08.050 --> 00:49:11.570
Spirits 50,000 YouTube subscriber celebration.
900
00:49:13.969 --> 00:49:14.369
Wow.
901
00:49:15.050 --> 00:49:15.250
Yeah.
902
00:49:15.449 --> 00:49:16.329
So pretty cool.
903
00:49:16.789 --> 00:49:16.949
Yeah.
904
00:49:16.969 --> 00:49:18.909
So you guys got the year planned out for some
905
00:49:18.949 --> 00:49:19.210
of this.
906
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:21.119
Pretty much but when.
907
00:49:21.019 --> 00:49:23.519
Are you gonna have time to ghost hunt or cryptid
908
00:49:23.539 --> 00:49:24.599
hunt or whatever.
909
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.130
You're wanting to do there's on average there's four weekends
910
00:49:27.190 --> 00:49:29.230
and every month so.
911
00:49:29.550 --> 00:49:33.110
And every weekend we're busy yeah pretty.
912
00:49:32.809 --> 00:49:36.309
Much we're either busy or we have our kids so.
913
00:49:36.409 --> 00:49:40.079
Well you're Very close to some very interesting areas there
914
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.400
in Arkansas, Missouri, and Iowa.
915
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.340
Yeah. And we're willing to drive. Everything's at least two
916
00:49:46.389 --> 00:49:48.670
hours away, so we're used to driving.
917
00:49:49.630 --> 00:49:49.829
Yeah.
918
00:49:49.869 --> 00:49:51.750
Have you made it out to St. Louis to the
919
00:49:51.789 --> 00:49:53.750
Lent Mansion yet or the Lent neighborhood?
920
00:49:54.190 --> 00:49:55.989
We go through St. Louis all the time, but we
921
00:49:56.010 --> 00:49:58.849
haven't stopped at– we've been to the cemetery where.
922
00:49:58.739 --> 00:50:00.260
They're buried, though. Okay.
923
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.420
Bellefontaine Cemetery.
924
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:03.079
Yeah.
925
00:50:03.099 --> 00:50:03.219
Yeah.
926
00:50:03.750 --> 00:50:06.550
Gorgeous cemetery. I could walk that cemetery for days.
927
00:50:06.929 --> 00:50:09.809
It is beautiful. But it's Belle Fountain. It's not Fontaine.
928
00:50:09.949 --> 00:50:10.989
Right. It's Belle Fountain.
929
00:50:11.010 --> 00:50:11.690
It's Belle Fountain.
930
00:50:12.789 --> 00:50:15.130
They're my Belle Fountain neighbors. That's it.
931
00:50:16.989 --> 00:50:20.269
So, I mean, that's cemetery. You could spend days walking
932
00:50:20.309 --> 00:50:21.769
around and looking at it by itself.
933
00:50:23.090 --> 00:50:25.010
Well, if you ever get the chance to get to Beaufort,
934
00:50:25.309 --> 00:50:29.309
North Carolina, they've got the most amazing cemetery there. There's
935
00:50:29.349 --> 00:50:33.599
a little girl buried in a cask of rum. Her
936
00:50:33.659 --> 00:50:39.780
grave is pretty active. There's a British sailor who was
937
00:50:39.900 --> 00:50:44.860
buried standing up facing England because that was his last request.
938
00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:52.019
It's amazing. I said cemetery. Yeah, it is a cemetery,
939
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.400
not a graveyard, because there's a church, different church on
940
00:50:55.460 --> 00:50:58.239
each side of it, but I think the community takes
941
00:50:58.300 --> 00:50:58.980
care of it now.
942
00:50:59.519 --> 00:50:59.719
Okay.
943
00:50:59.739 --> 00:50:59.840
Okay.
944
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.820
But it is an incredible place with all kinds of
945
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.940
different stories. And then I was at one just last
946
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:14.010
weekend where they believe it may be Jean Lafitte, the
947
00:51:14.070 --> 00:51:15.409
pirate buried there.
948
00:51:15.849 --> 00:51:16.349
Very nice.
949
00:51:16.369 --> 00:51:20.710
Under a different name. So that's somewhere here in North
950
00:51:20.750 --> 00:51:23.719
Carolina up here in the mountains, which is strange enough.
951
00:51:23.860 --> 00:51:26.880
But yeah, you guys have a lot of stuff to
952
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:27.719
look forward to.
953
00:51:27.739 --> 00:51:30.889
Yeah, we do. It's only the beginning. We've only been
954
00:51:30.909 --> 00:51:35.500
doing this literally for a year. So yeah, we're very,
955
00:51:35.579 --> 00:51:36.699
we're very, very excited.
956
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:41.239
Well, I can understand that. What's your, other than the,
957
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.260
did you say it was the Goblin Fest?
958
00:51:44.940 --> 00:51:45.579
Goblin Con.
959
00:51:45.860 --> 00:51:46.079
Yeah.
960
00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:48.780
Goblin Con. Other than that, what have you got planned
961
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.460
for ghost hunts in the near future? Anything special?
962
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:53.820
We have Beady Mansion.
963
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:55.920
Oh yeah. Okay.
964
00:51:55.940 --> 00:51:56.179
Okay.
965
00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:01.079
Yeah, we have Beatty Mansion coming up. We have Sally House. Yeah,
966
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:02.840
we're going to be at Ashmore twice. We're going to
967
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.420
be at the Sally House helping out an investigation there.
968
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:13.639
I mean, honestly, we do last minute stuff all the time,
969
00:52:13.699 --> 00:52:15.039
so there's no telling where we're going to be.
970
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.880
Do you mind doing this? Well, we can. Do you
971
00:52:17.900 --> 00:52:18.280
have anything?
972
00:52:18.380 --> 00:52:18.559
No?
973
00:52:18.739 --> 00:52:21.099
Okay, we're in. Yeah.
974
00:52:21.219 --> 00:52:21.920
Fort Supply.
975
00:52:22.900 --> 00:52:23.739
Fort Supply again.
976
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:25.360
Yeah, Fort Supply in October.
977
00:52:25.820 --> 00:52:28.699
Where is Fort Supply? I saw that on your page,
978
00:52:28.780 --> 00:52:30.019
but I don't know that name.
979
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.139
That's in Western Oklahoma.
980
00:52:33.219 --> 00:52:35.139
William S. Key Correctional Facility.
981
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:37.780
Okay, it's a prison. Great.
982
00:52:38.539 --> 00:52:42.570
But it was a mental asylum at one point. The
983
00:52:42.590 --> 00:52:48.130
other point, it was the staging point for Colonel Muster,
984
00:52:48.489 --> 00:52:53.969
not general, for him and his army in the Battle
985
00:52:54.030 --> 00:52:54.829
of Ouachita.
986
00:52:55.530 --> 00:52:56.349
Okay.
987
00:52:57.449 --> 00:52:58.530
Isn't that the guy off Clue?
988
00:52:59.070 --> 00:53:04.289
Yes, but he was a colonel at one point before
989
00:53:04.349 --> 00:53:06.070
General Custard. Oh, not Mustard.
990
00:53:06.139 --> 00:53:06.449
Custard.
991
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.940
Yeah. General Custard.
992
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:11.019
Custard, yeah. Sorry, not Mustard.
993
00:53:13.139 --> 00:53:15.079
That makes more sense. Okay.
994
00:53:15.179 --> 00:53:17.199
That's so funny. I was like, wait a second. That
995
00:53:17.219 --> 00:53:19.079
doesn't sound right. It sounds like Clue.
996
00:53:19.420 --> 00:53:23.110
You're supposed to know what I mean. Colonel Mustard. Colonel Custard.
997
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.699
In the billiard room with the wretch.
998
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.019
In the prairie with a lot of Duncan.
999
00:53:29.940 --> 00:53:33.239
Well, a good friend of mine over there, Road Trip
1000
00:53:33.260 --> 00:53:37.570
Paranormal out of Kansas, is doing Dodge City in October,
1001
00:53:37.610 --> 00:53:40.889
at least a couple of weekends. Wow. And they get
1002
00:53:41.590 --> 00:53:45.250
amazing results. They've sent me some pictures. It's outstanding there.
1003
00:53:45.670 --> 00:53:45.909
Yeah.
1004
00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:48.409
I've been to Dodge City a lot.
1005
00:53:49.429 --> 00:53:51.650
You've been through Dodge City a lot.
1006
00:53:51.710 --> 00:53:56.210
No, I've been through it. So I lived an hour
1007
00:53:56.230 --> 00:54:00.769
south of Dodge City where I originally grew up in
1008
00:54:00.789 --> 00:54:04.150
the middle of nowhere. Dodge City was the closest city
1009
00:54:04.210 --> 00:54:07.929
to us. And so living out on a ranch, we
1010
00:54:07.969 --> 00:54:13.340
had to go there quite often. But yeah, I was
1011
00:54:13.380 --> 00:54:17.599
just actually watching one of your episodes today. You were
1012
00:54:17.659 --> 00:54:22.199
really talking about that. So I've been to Boot Hill
1013
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.000
and I've been to a lot of those places around there.
1014
00:54:26.860 --> 00:54:30.260
In fact, I think there's a town that I was
1015
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.820
jinxed at that was by there.
1016
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:34.380
No, for real.
1017
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:36.400
He's like, no, for real.
1018
00:54:36.460 --> 00:54:36.900
Listen.
1019
00:54:37.940 --> 00:54:40.719
I can never pitch a good game at that place,
1020
00:54:41.139 --> 00:54:46.480
at that baseball. I was a good pitcher and those
1021
00:54:46.500 --> 00:54:51.440
were my worst games. I broke my wrist. At that field, too.
1022
00:54:52.780 --> 00:54:58.780
And so, I mean, what else can I say? All right.
1023
00:54:59.139 --> 00:55:01.679
Well, guys, I'm afraid our time is about up, so
1024
00:55:01.739 --> 00:55:04.119
I'm going to have to let you go. But just
1025
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.699
to hit one more time, you do have the stuff available.
1026
00:55:08.210 --> 00:55:14.210
You can see a lot of your investigation clips on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram. And,
1027
00:55:14.250 --> 00:55:20.650
of course, you still have your equipment or equipment. Merchandise
1028
00:55:20.710 --> 00:55:23.389
or whatever. Do you do equipment other than the Ouija
1029
00:55:23.429 --> 00:55:25.860
board or just the shirts?
1030
00:55:27.019 --> 00:55:29.440
We do pendulum boards as well.
1031
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.719
Okay.
1032
00:55:30.820 --> 00:55:34.800
We don't do electronic equipment, though. I don't need another hobby.
1033
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.969
I have built a REM pod before that the dogs
1034
00:55:39.070 --> 00:55:45.309
kindly ate, but no, I don't need another hobby. Okay.
1035
00:55:45.630 --> 00:55:47.409
I thought about it, though. That would be cool. Okay.
1036
00:55:48.780 --> 00:55:49.980
We'll consider that then.
1037
00:55:50.179 --> 00:55:54.699
Yeah, offsonpurpose.com. That's our website.
1038
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.989
All right. Well, hey, I'm going to go ahead and
1039
00:55:58.070 --> 00:56:01.389
step off because I'm really running low on time. Talking
1040
00:56:01.409 --> 00:56:03.110
to you all, time went by so fast.
1041
00:56:03.309 --> 00:56:04.050
It's been fun.
1042
00:56:04.710 --> 00:56:06.489
Would you hang around for just a second? Let me
1043
00:56:06.530 --> 00:56:07.809
talk to you again after the show.
1044
00:56:08.250 --> 00:56:09.909
Yeah, absolutely. We appreciate it.
1045
00:56:10.309 --> 00:56:11.050
I'll be right there.
1046
00:56:11.150 --> 00:56:11.489
Thanks.
1047
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.199
Okay, I like these folks because they are having them.
1048
00:56:15.530 --> 00:56:17.780
they're having a ball with it. And that's the whole
1049
00:56:17.889 --> 00:56:21.139
point of having a hobby and they're making, making a
1050
00:56:21.260 --> 00:56:24.900
life around it. So that's, that's great. But there's so
1051
00:56:24.940 --> 00:56:28.480
much there in Kansas specifically, and you guys know my
1052
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.940
time in Wilson, Kansas, when I was doing the Oz Museum,
1053
00:56:33.019 --> 00:56:37.690
doing the, what was that theater? It was from the
1054
00:56:38.030 --> 00:56:44.550
Chicago World's Fair of 1904, 1903, whatever it was. So
1055
00:56:44.610 --> 00:56:47.650
much going on up there. I didn't know Oklahoma was
1056
00:56:47.690 --> 00:56:51.309
that dry, but okay. Hey, anyway, I do want to mention,
1057
00:56:51.530 --> 00:56:56.050
of course, joining the UnX Network. Go to unxnetwork.com. Drop
1058
00:56:56.090 --> 00:56:58.150
down a little bit on the opening screen. You can
1059
00:56:58.230 --> 00:57:01.230
join up. You get so much out of this. You
1060
00:57:01.269 --> 00:57:04.789
can get, first off, the blog, which, like I said, guys,
1061
00:57:04.969 --> 00:57:08.679
the blog's going crazy lately. We were all right in
1062
00:57:08.699 --> 00:57:11.420
the front of the missing scientists. We were right in
1063
00:57:11.460 --> 00:57:16.090
the front of the tic-tacs. We've got some really outstanding
1064
00:57:16.570 --> 00:57:22.050
UFO people that was keeping that going. You also get, gosh,
1065
00:57:22.530 --> 00:57:27.170
the newsletter once a week, talks about the show, what's
1066
00:57:27.210 --> 00:57:30.190
going on with that. And then, of course, once a month,
1067
00:57:30.230 --> 00:57:33.880
you get the Annex magazine sent to you by email.
1068
00:57:33.969 --> 00:57:37.920
You can purchase copies of it in paper, which I
1069
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:41.380
usually do. But you also get it right here on
1070
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:45.679
your computer once a month. Got some great writers going.
1071
00:57:46.900 --> 00:57:50.219
I've done several articles for it. This one here, I
1072
00:57:50.260 --> 00:57:53.260
did the one on the haunted dolls because I hate dolls.
1073
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:56.239
They just creep me out. And there's so much more
1074
00:57:56.300 --> 00:58:00.139
going on like that. So joining up, it's easy to do.
1075
00:58:00.300 --> 00:58:03.349
Check it out. YouTube, you can still see all of
1076
00:58:03.409 --> 00:58:07.289
our in-house stuff. My show, Michelle Roos out of Iowa,
1077
00:58:07.369 --> 00:58:11.849
her show. So much going on. And, oh, there's the
1078
00:58:11.889 --> 00:58:15.800
group out of Ohio. I met them at the Blunderhausen
1079
00:58:15.820 --> 00:58:18.860
Hotel in West Virginia. We're back in West Virginia again.
1080
00:58:20.019 --> 00:58:23.760
Iron City Paranormal. And I worked with them one night.
1081
00:58:23.820 --> 00:58:27.280
They're an outstanding group. And they were on the cusp
1082
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.280
of some really neat stuff. They've got a show on
1083
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.360
here now. Okay. Got to go, guys. But I want
1084
00:58:33.409 --> 00:58:37.610
you all to keep in mind that it's still summer.
1085
00:58:37.949 --> 00:58:41.380
Still a chance of getting heat. So stay cool. And,
1086
00:58:41.969 --> 00:58:45.190
of course, what else can I say but, you know,
1087
00:58:45.250 --> 00:58:47.650
stay spooked, okay? Good night.
1088
00:58:48.710 --> 00:59:01.210
Good night. Thank you.