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Speaker 1: Join Wayne Boxmiller and me for Bengals game plan tonight starting at 6 on the official home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN 1530.
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Speaker 3: Very quickly, before we get to our friend Kelsey Conway, that game in Atlanta goes final. We had an ABS challenge, a successful ABS challenge that ended the game. with former Red Dominic Smith striking out, looking with two on and two outs. Bottom of the 10th inning, so the Phillies win that ball game 4-1. Decisive game three tomorrow. Also, the White Sox up early four in the first and still batting, leading the Astros four-zip game two there. Kelsey Conway is with us every Wednesday, 5-20 from the Enquirer and Cincinnati.com, host of the Beyond Sunday podcast. Who's going to play in the secondary on Sunday?
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Speaker 4: You know, I actually just got done writing a story that will be up on the Inquirer momentarily. And boy, you totally go through the depth chart because there's almost like a trickle-down effect for almost every single injury that the Bengals have in the secondary. And that's why it is a tricky situation that Al Golden and Zach Till are going to have to work through because when Jalen Davis went out, We haven't talked about Desir Taylor being on IR and how much of an issue that is for them. So they're down their top two slot corners. So then, of course, that means Dax Hill, who wants to play outside, is better outside, has to move inside because he's their best option there. So then that leaves an opening opposite of DJ Turner outside at cornerback that will either be given to DJ Ivy or to Kario Davis. Hasn't been a great showing for Takario Davis through three games, three costly penalties, a little bit pansy. So they're probably going to go with DJ Ivy for the start. But you've seen DJ Ivy here now. He's in his fourth season. You kind of know what you're going to get. He's a guy who plays hard. But can you trust him that he's going to be able to lock down the Jacksonville receivers? And then we're not even talking about safety. Safety is almost... even more of a concern because Jordan battle was limited today with a hamstring injury. Brian cook didn't practice neither did Kyle Duggar. So then you're focusing on a player like Russ yeast, who's currently on the practice squad. So they're going to give him some reps in practice this week. And they think if they have to go with him, they feel confident. about that. They also can go towards PJ Jules, but again, that's a player who is mostly on the team for what he gives them from special teams standpoint. So it's kind of a mess and they're going to wait and see how the rest of the week goes as far as Brian Cook is And Kyle Duggar, if they can get them to a position where maybe Saturday they gave them enough rest. Brian Cook's the type of player who I think could play at a high level if he doesn't practice. But it's a lot of moving pieces, and it's not going to be pretty. And of all games, for them to not have their top players in the secondary, this one's a tough one because... They're not talked about that much because it's a small market team, but Jacksonville's got a really, really strong trio of wide receivers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. Then I look on the report and there's Dalton Reisner. What's up with that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So I noticed that out of practice today because I try to take role of the attendance of the offensive lineman, and he wasn't out there. And he's had a bandage on his leg the last couple of weeks, I've noticed. So I don't know if something happened on that final play, obviously the game-sealing play that he got beat on. But it is a little bit of a concern that he wasn't even out there at practice. But I did see him in the locker room come out of the training room. He looked like he was walking okay. So we will see if he's able to come back in practice. Usually with a player like Dalton Reisner, who's a veteran, it's hard to gauge what what they could be because they are the type of players that can take a Wednesday off. So Thursday is going to be the really telling day for Dalton Reisner because Thursday is when they really put the entire game plan in and that's their heavy day of practice. So definitely keep an eye on the injury report tomorrow with Dalton Reisner. But yeah, not an ideal situation for the Bengals to be in with him being bagged up too.
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Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. This team enjoyed such great health. Yeah, I know there's a lot there. This team enjoyed such great health that it's seemingly all come crashing down. What was the most damning thing that you saw on Sunday in Pittsburgh?
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Speaker 4: The most damning thing I saw is, and it all goes back to this conversation about injuries, because no team, unless you're a unbelievable. Like it's going to go through a season where they don't have a few games where they just don't play their best. Like nobody and Dexter Lawrence said it, like we're not going to go undefeated without what that wasn't the goal. But what is concerning to me is that the way they played in Pittsburgh on defense wasn't great. And I, They still had a chance to win, and boy, it's going to be hard to say if the Bengals are going to win. They're going to have to play really, really well to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars with what they're dealing with in the secondary. But how much different would you feel if they had won that game in Pittsburgh and and they're 3-1 heading into a game against Miami that they should win, and then they have a chance to be 4-1 at the bye, I think what was concerning to me is that that was a game that the Bengals needed to win in Pittsburgh. They were definitely the better team. They just didn't show up on defense on all three levels, and that's what's concerning to me is because If they do lose to the Jaguars, two and two is a very different look than three and one. And obviously it's still early in the season. I'm not trying to say like there's panic should be involved. But I think that's what's concerning is to me is because, you know, there's going to be games where you're not going to have your best players. And those are the ones where you can kind of live.
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Speaker 1: With a loss.
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Speaker 4: The one in Pittsburgh, it's hard to live with because it should have been a win.
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Speaker 3: What do we do with this whole they're 1-34 when they're trailing with less than eight minutes to go stat that everybody's obsessing over?
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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's being taken out of context, and I was glad that Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick talked about it on their podcast. I do think that it's misleading to some extent, but I get why it's being talked about right now. Listen, until Joe Burrow can stay healthy and until he can string together four or five games where he has game-winning drive, that narrative probably won't change. But I think as someone who watched that game in Pittsburgh, I remember going into the fourth quarter like, Burrow has looked the best that he has looked all season today. Like I think to, to even point out a negative, he played really well in Pittsburgh. And again, was far from the reason that they lost that game. I think the point to those things with how well Joe Burrow has played over the last couple of years, to me, seems like a bit much, but I can see why it's, you know, something that's swirling. But I think the bigger conversation is, is how many times did they put him in a position to have to win the game where there's times where if they would just run the ball and play for the time, but they put the ball in his hand so much that it's going to lead to conversations about, is it too much? Are they putting too much on him? So I always look at those types of stats with, with, some perspective in mind because I think that's important because Joe Burrow played fantastic in Pittsburgh and it was not his fault that they lost that game.
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Speaker 1: We're on the same page there. Thank you as always. We'll talk next week.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on, Mo.
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Speaker 3: That's the great Kelsey Conway from The Enquirer and Cincinnati.com and host of the Beyond Sunday podcast which focuses on the significant others of Bengals players.
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Speaker 1: Join Wayne Boxmiller and me for Bengals game plan tonight starting at 6 on the official home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN 1530.
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Speaker 2: This is Football in the Natty, brought to you in part by Skyline Chili on ESPN 1530, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Speaker 3: Very quickly, before we get to our friend Kelsey Conway, that game in Atlanta goes final. We had an ABS challenge, a successful ABS challenge that ended the game. with former Red Dominic Smith striking out, looking with two on and two outs. Bottom of the 10th inning, so the Phillies win that ball game 4-1. Decisive game three tomorrow. Also, the White Sox up early four in the first and still batting, leading the Astros four-zip game two there. Kelsey Conway is with us every Wednesday, 5-20 from the Enquirer and Cincinnati.com, host of the Beyond Sunday podcast. Who's going to play in the secondary on Sunday?
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Speaker 4: You know, I actually just got done writing a story that will be up on the Inquirer momentarily. And boy, you totally go through the depth chart because there's almost like a trickle-down effect for almost every single injury that the Bengals have in the secondary. And that's why it is a tricky situation that Al Golden and Zach Till are going to have to work through because when Jalen Davis went out, We haven't talked about Desir Taylor being on IR and how much of an issue that is for them. So they're down their top two slot corners. So then, of course, that means Dax Hill, who wants to play outside, is better outside, has to move inside because he's their best option there. So then that leaves an opening opposite of DJ Turner outside at cornerback that will either be given to DJ Ivy or to Kario Davis. Hasn't been a great showing for Takario Davis through three games, three costly penalties, a little bit pansy. So they're probably going to go with DJ Ivy for the start. But you've seen DJ Ivy here now. He's in his fourth season. You kind of know what you're going to get. He's a guy who plays hard. But can you trust him that he's going to be able to lock down the Jacksonville receivers? And then we're not even talking about safety. Safety is almost... even more of a concern because Jordan battle was limited today with a hamstring injury. Brian cook didn't practice neither did Kyle Duggar. So then you're focusing on a player like Russ yeast, who's currently on the practice squad. So they're going to give him some reps in practice this week. And they think if they have to go with him, they feel confident. about that. They also can go towards PJ Jules, but again, that's a player who is mostly on the team for what he gives them from special teams standpoint. So it's kind of a mess and they're going to wait and see how the rest of the week goes as far as Brian Cook is And Kyle Duggar, if they can get them to a position where maybe Saturday they gave them enough rest. Brian Cook's the type of player who I think could play at a high level if he doesn't practice. But it's a lot of moving pieces, and it's not going to be pretty. And of all games, for them to not have their top players in the secondary, this one's a tough one because... They're not talked about that much because it's a small market team, but Jacksonville's got a really, really strong trio of wide receivers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. Then I look on the report and there's Dalton Reisner. What's up with that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So I noticed that out of practice today because I try to take role of the attendance of the offensive lineman, and he wasn't out there. And he's had a bandage on his leg the last couple of weeks, I've noticed. So I don't know if something happened on that final play, obviously the game-sealing play that he got beat on. But it is a little bit of a concern that he wasn't even out there at practice. But I did see him in the locker room come out of the training room. He looked like he was walking okay. So we will see if he's able to come back in practice. Usually with a player like Dalton Reisner, who's a veteran, it's hard to gauge what what they could be because they are the type of players that can take a Wednesday off. So Thursday is going to be the really telling day for Dalton Reisner because Thursday is when they really put the entire game plan in and that's their heavy day of practice. So definitely keep an eye on the injury report tomorrow with Dalton Reisner. But yeah, not an ideal situation for the Bengals to be in with him being bagged up too.
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Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. This team enjoyed such great health. Yeah, I know there's a lot there. This team enjoyed such great health that it's seemingly all come crashing down. What was the most damning thing that you saw on Sunday in Pittsburgh?
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Speaker 4: The most damning thing I saw is, and it all goes back to this conversation about injuries, because no team, unless you're a unbelievable. Like it's going to go through a season where they don't have a few games where they just don't play their best. Like nobody and Dexter Lawrence said it, like we're not going to go undefeated without what that wasn't the goal. But what is concerning to me is that the way they played in Pittsburgh on defense wasn't great. And I, They still had a chance to win, and boy, it's going to be hard to say if the Bengals are going to win. They're going to have to play really, really well to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars with what they're dealing with in the secondary. But how much different would you feel if they had won that game in Pittsburgh and and they're 3-1 heading into a game against Miami that they should win, and then they have a chance to be 4-1 at the bye, I think what was concerning to me is that that was a game that the Bengals needed to win in Pittsburgh. They were definitely the better team. They just didn't show up on defense on all three levels, and that's what's concerning to me is because If they do lose to the Jaguars, two and two is a very different look than three and one. And obviously it's still early in the season. I'm not trying to say like there's panic should be involved. But I think that's what's concerning is to me is because, you know, there's going to be games where you're not going to have your best players. And those are the ones where you can kind of live.
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Speaker 1: With a loss.
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Speaker 4: The one in Pittsburgh, it's hard to live with because it should have been a win.
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Speaker 3: What do we do with this whole they're 1-34 when they're trailing with less than eight minutes to go stat that everybody's obsessing over?
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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's being taken out of context, and I was glad that Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick talked about it on their podcast. I do think that it's misleading to some extent, but I get why it's being talked about right now. Listen, until Joe Burrow can stay healthy and until he can string together four or five games where he has game-winning drive, that narrative probably won't change. But I think as someone who watched that game in Pittsburgh, I remember going into the fourth quarter like, Burrow has looked the best that he has looked all season today. Like I think to, to even point out a negative, he played really well in Pittsburgh. And again, was far from the reason that they lost that game. I think the point to those things with how well Joe Burrow has played over the last couple of years, to me, seems like a bit much, but I can see why it's, you know, something that's swirling. But I think the bigger conversation is, is how many times did they put him in a position to have to win the game where there's times where if they would just run the ball and play for the time, but they put the ball in his hand so much that it's going to lead to conversations about, is it too much? Are they putting too much on him? So I always look at those types of stats with, with, some perspective in mind because I think that's important because Joe Burrow played fantastic in Pittsburgh and it was not his fault that they lost that game.
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Speaker 1: We're on the same page there. Thank you as always. We'll talk next week.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on, Mo.
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Speaker 3: That's the great Kelsey Conway from The Enquirer and Cincinnati.com and host of the Beyond Sunday podcast which focuses on the significant others of Bengals players.
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Speaker 1: It's 5.30. We have the rest of the show is an open canvas, a blank canvas. Read the chat.
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Speaker 3: I'll read the chat after sports headlines when we come back. 5.30, ESPN 1530, Cincinnati Sports Station.
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Speaker 2: You've been listening to Football in the Natty on ESPN 1530, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPN 1530.
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Speaker 3: Traffic. From the UC Health Traffic Center, prostate cancer care should be as individual as you are. Find treatment options built around you at the UC Cancer Center.
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