A Few Good Men (1992) | Missing Frames #157

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Welcome to the ned Palty.
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Hello, and welcome to another episode of Missing Frames.
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Hello. This is the podcast where.
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We watch all the movies we should have seen by
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this point in our lives.
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I'm your host, sewn Easters.
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You're hanging out on the Nerd Party Network, a collection
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of podcasts dedicated to all things entertainment. Make sure to
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You'll find us there.
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And I am delighted, excited, thrilled, beyond all reason to
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be inviting back to the show, mister Richie Pepio, Richie,
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Welcome back to the show.
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Wickedly wild, dizzy boy, how do you think Adela Seam
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is doing. I think she's snorting up the spice on
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a racus right now, trying to.
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Connect across vast distance with population. I'm getting worm sign.
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But we've been talking for an hour and a half
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before we started recording.
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I've said everything I needed to say, But I.
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Didn't ask you what you thought of the Messiah trailer.
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Why the conclusion the trilogy haven't seen?
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That's embarrassing.
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We were talking about the new Harry Potter, why does
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it exist?
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Why does it exist?
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And I remember being I didn't realize they were even filmings.
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And I actually love that franchise. I love those books, and.
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There's too much to keep.
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I used to like, I used to check Ain't It Cool?
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Dot Com? Every day?
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Now I don't what do I even do? What's the
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internet for if I'm not trying to slowly know what age?
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No, it's nothing's cool anymore?
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Any cool was great because they got all the good
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scoops on the Star Wars prequels, and I spoiled all
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of episode two for me before I saw it, and
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it was way better on the message boards than it
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was in theaters.
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Over.
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The spoiling was not the plot. It was the movie
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that I made in my head was better than the
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movie that I saw on screen later on.
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Right right, so well, the scoops, Now, the scoop is
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a reaction to the trailer.
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Now you that is that was it? No more scoops.
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We just react to the trailers fit and we watch
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and we film ourselves with the tears rolling down our face,
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as this mediocre, the twenty thousand MCU movie.
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Like, oh my god, red Hulks in this one, God, I.
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Was just give me Purple Hulk.
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And then my dreams.
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Then I'll finally be like, wow, the MCU really they figured.
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They brought it back. They brought it back.
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Well, speaking of trailers, I'll be really quick. I just
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remember six grade speaking of Star Wars and trailers, so
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everything goes back to Star Wars.
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I would say, we did we did the Eyes White Shut,
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and we talked about the Phantom Menace trailers.
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So this is part of the prequels.
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But I went to see The Matrix in nineteen ninety nine.
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Grandparents took me. I was eleven.
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I was in sixth grade. And and as it's dark,
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we got there late. It's dark, the trailers have started
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in right as we enter, I see it's the Star
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Wars Episode one trailer, and I think I might have
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even seen it, like when Entertainment Tonight did like a
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sneak peek already, but I was like, wow, what the
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big screen what it's a crowded theater too, so but
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it's dark. My Grandpa's like, wait, where do you go?
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My granda was like you know, she was like lost.
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I was like, we gotta find a seat. He's like,
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but your grandma, I'm like leave her. So we go
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up onto the regal. It's like the raked it's like
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the stadium seating, so you have to go up steps
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and you go and we sit. We find three seats
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and I'm like, in odd, it's like the attack in
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the Docking Band Naboo, like actually, and I'm like, oh,
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he's a nine year old flying the spaceship. He's just
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like me. And we sit down, and meanwhile, my grandmother
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is like, she's found a seat somewhere else. She doesn't
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know she got lost. She sat down and she's not
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old at this point. She was like sixty and sixty
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five and she's sitting down and and it's so dark,
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because The Matrix is such a dark movie that it's
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really hard to see. But she saw what she thought
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looked like me with a different adult, and she thought
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I was getting kidnapped. She was like sitting here with
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the oh no, Richie, watching the Matrix and now and
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then she.
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Still enjoy it though, besides, we.
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Had we had to go find her. Like you're doing it.
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It's so dark, you're like doing a space walk. You're like,
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I'm trying to, you know, connected to the wholes to
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guide you.
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The green the green lines of code coming down the
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screen were the only illumination you had.
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But that's why, like, I'm really disappointed in myself.
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That's why you're the way you Messiah trailer.
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That's why I'm the way I am. But I'm also
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disappointed for not the Dune trailer yet. Because it's gonna
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be a good movie.
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It's gonna be a good one, it's gonna be a
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good night think.
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But we're not here to talk about Doom. We're not
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here to talk about Star Wars, as much as I
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want to. We're here to continue celebrating my podcast, my
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show hitting ten years this year, and we're just doing
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what we always do. There's nothing special about it. We're
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just gonna keep watching movies and celebrating movies. And the
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movie we're watching today is another one that you haven't seen.
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And we're not only celebrating cinema. We're celebrating the great
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Rob Reiner, one of the great filmmakers.
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Of all the time, and the film life guy.
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Yeah, larger than life really honestly, And this is I
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think this film sort of con not concludes, but it
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was kind of like the end of this insane streak
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of masterpieces that he did through the eighties. But we're
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watching a few good Men. You have not seen it,
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but Reiner, I think starting with spinal tap, this spinal tap,
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it was literally that stand by me, the Princess Bride misery. Yeah,
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and I feel like I'm missing stuff, but like a
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few good Men nineteen ninety two, this and then American
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President I think was after this, and I feel like
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that was like, oh, when Harry met Sally?
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How can I when Harry met Sally?
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Also, do like say anything or no?
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That was that was what's his name? Crow Crow? Mister crow. Yeah,
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that was the crow. It was the crow. It was
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Brandon Lee.
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Yeah, he directed movies on the side before his untimely so.
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Many untimely deaths. This is this took a turn.
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Yeah, but a few good men celebrating a few good men. Uh,
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another one of the in this streak of masterpieces. This
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is yet another notch in the belt for mister Reiner.
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But tell me, tell me what you know, tell me
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what you've heard. You haven't seen it, you're aware, of
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course of some of stuff. Yes, there's so much iconic
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stuff in the film that.
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Yeah, this was his thing.
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He broke He broke big because of this. It was
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a play he wrote while he was I think a waiter.
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I think he would write it on napkins. He would
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write ideas down, take them home, write them on, type
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them up on a typewriter. Became a play, and then
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he adapted the play. He wrote the screenplay for this adaptation.
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Wow, and it's a stacked cast too, because I just
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thought that. I just was like on Time Cruise, d
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Anymore and Jack Nicholson.
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But I don't know.
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It's Kevin bacon Key for Sutherland, Kevin Cast. I haven't
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listened to it a while. Cuba Gooding Junior, Yeah, Wolfgang bought.
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A Sun only that.
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But we have James Hurley. That's James Marshall from uh
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Twin Peaks, isn't this? And uh so right, we've got,
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like you said, stacked cast. You said, Cuba Gooding Junior
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Junior is in this.
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I forgot you in this.
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I literally just watched this not long ago. Christopher Guest
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has an appearance as well, which is very cool.
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Some guy that was like Bill Ny the science guy.
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But it's not. Yes, somehow.
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Las Nava sounds like a made up character in an
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alcohol add But good for her.
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She's good for her.
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Yeah, this is definitely a highlight of her career, I think.
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But yeah, so Aaron Sorkin wrote it. This was his
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big claim to fame. It kind of blew up, I
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think with this film adaptation, and he became the screenwriter
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we no one loved today. I love Aeron's Frickin' so much.
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But anyway, so tell me, tell me, let's talk Rob Reiner,
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because I feel like, as is the case sadly, with
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every great artist, you go through a period of like
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in their their twilight years or later career, where you're
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not talking about them as much. And it's unfortunate that
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we live in a society where some tragedy or a
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death has to bring us back to the place where
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we can be like, oh, that guy was great.
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But I just.
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Remember feeling like for me personally, Rob Reiner is one
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of my all time favorite filmmakers. Stand By Me is
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maybe a top ten favorite film of all time. When
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Harry met Sally, this.
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Is a wild tap. He does the lighting justice.
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Yes, yes, he's just and he was an actor first,
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so I think he just kind of you can tell
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like he just gets into the performances.
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The performances are always so good.
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But I adore him, and just talking about Reiner because
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you got you introduced me to this Spinal Tap and
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Christopher Guest and all those films, Sarah, and I just
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watched a Mighty Wind. But was that your introductor? Yeah,
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it was that your introduction too, Rob Reiner, Do you remember.
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I mean, I think it was one of those movies
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where it's like again, it's like one of those like
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my you know a lot of movies that my dad
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kind of saw in his formative years or like when
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he was like in his twenties, or things that he
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showed me when I was a kid. So Spinal Tap
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was one of those like, oh, we we start marinate,
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we start with a base of naked gun and airplane
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and we work our way up. And Spinal Tap was
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like a two tier two or Tier three movie, and
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that might have been a connection point for me. Princess Bride.
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I had seen and I liked it a lot, but
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for some reason I never really like and and maybe
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it was one of those like the Monty Python Holy
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Grail situations where it's just like it's so overquoted. Yeah,
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I remember I saw Monty Python, Monty Python's Holy Grail
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and everybody quoted it on the recess like playground in
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elementary school. I saw it in fourth or fifth grade,
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and everybody quote.
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Like what didn't I actually say me and.
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I don't know either ran like more famous lines, and
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I think I quoted like a less well known.
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Line, and people were like looking at me dead eyed.
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They hadn't actually seen it. So it's like, wait, I
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watch it and everybody's quoting it non stop, but they
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didn't actually see the movie that happened with.
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I think Monty Python and the Holy Girl and Princess Bride.
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For me, some of my favorite quotes from the film
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were the ones that weren't as heavily as when I
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go back to them. Holy Grail, the one I think about.
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Is like, one day, my lad, this will all be
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what the cut.
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Very and then Princess Bride, My I think the one
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line I go to is you know, yeah, Wallace Sewan
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is constantly saying inconceivable, and then an ego Montoya says,
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you keep using this word. I do not think you
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know what it means.
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It's a great one, the straight man calling things out.
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Yes, so good, so good, But I agree with you,
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and I think both of this I saw Princess Bride
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actually on Missing Frames. We did an episode of it,
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and so I only saw it maybe ten or so
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years ago for the first time and loved it and
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adored it. But go on, sorry, I think and I
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have more. We're talking about how overrated they are.
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Yeah, yeah, Princess Bride, I was. I'm just I'm I
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appreciate and I like it. I am joy it's and
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I think it's just people.
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Ruined it for me because they have too much. That's
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what people do. People ruin things. That's the problem.
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People are a disease A little bit line is the
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matrix virus. Their grandma is like still this movie is
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two hours long and Grandma's still Some say she's still
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searching for me in that lot which has now been
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converted into low income condominiums or high income. So uh yeah, yeah,
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I think is fantastic When Harry met Sally is really great,
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one of the best comedies around, and it's really easy
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to watch. Princess Bride. I enjoy and I appreciate. It's
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got a great cast. And uh, I haven't seen Misery
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though I haven't seen I haven't seen misery.
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I haven't seen this. Yeah, geez, so what do you
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know about a few good men? Other than the truth?
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You can't handle the truth? Everybody wears the uniform Demian
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wore is there. She's got her hair in a tight month.
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Tom cruises in it, and geez, he's like the last
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great movie stars and he like that. He's like our modern.
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I again, we're just repeating the same conversations because we
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did Eyes White was our last episode another we're just
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gonna talk about this again, but it is true.
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Well, here's the thing.
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I just watched the last Mission Impossible again after watching
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a few of the preceding ones, and the seventh one
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is still probably like up there as.
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Either my favorite or my second favorite.
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And the last one, though, I remember being like on
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my letterbox review, you know, out of five stars, I
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enjoyed it, but I don't know if it's a four
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star one. I gave it four stars anyway, but watching
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it like it's three and a half, it's very clunky.
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Is that Tom calling you? No, it's less Baxter.
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Very tuned in when people talk about letterbox reviews.
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He's like, are you talking about my movie. You gave
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it less than four time. I was on the airplane.
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I was on that airplane for weeks and weeks. I'm
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in the Guinness Book of World Records. And you don't
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enjoy the movie. You can't get it for stars.
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Yeah, I know you were hanging from an airplane, but
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that was the best part of the movie. You know, Tom,
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you could have cut down probably.
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During the submarine stuff is very cool.
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The submarine stuff is the best part of the movie.
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It's it's amazing. There's always a great set piece. Of
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set pieces are great. But the first like the first
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twenty minutes. I remember even seeing it in theaters. It's
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so sloppy. I'm like, wait, bing Raims is sick. What's
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the flashback? I couldn't tell if like, was he in
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a hospital.
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In a previous movie that I'm not remembering. And that's
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how that was introduced in the last.
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Movie in seventh in the seventh movie.
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No, it wasn't even in the seventh movie, so it
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was it's sloppy, and it feels slot. It's sloppy. I now,
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I really enjoyed it, but.
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Too that's a problem.
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Usually that could should be better.
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But this is also like speaking of Tom Cruise and
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how much we love them. I feel like A Few
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Good Men was one of a string of films in
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which he was trying to prove he had the chot
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because he had been like, I haven't seen risky business.
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I need to I own it. But top Gun was
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such a big thing, and I think he was being
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labeled as like, oh, he's like the hot guy, but
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he's not an actor.
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He's not. And I feel like he was doing a.
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Slew of films in this period of time, rain Man
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and Born on the fourth of July and A Few
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Good Men. I feel like it's almost like the climax
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of this period in his career where he was like,
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I'm going to earn this, Like I'm still.
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Though, he's still trying to prove him Relax a little bit.
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I want to see another mission impossible at some point.
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I don't want him to like fully retire. But no,
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come on, you were You're the top grossing movie star.
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You're like the best movie star we got around. Right now,
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You're like the best actor stunt guy we've got around.
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You're like the.
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Hope of scientology. I mean, he's the best of them.
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We can't do he can't do.
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I don't know, bail fall off a buildings, you can't
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do that.
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It's true.
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So I watch a few Good Men because obviously it's
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because it's based on the play. It's so dialogue driven
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and so performance driven. I feel I watched this a
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few months ago for the first time in years, and
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I'm excited to watch it again for this But like,
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I love this movie so much, and I I watch
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it as a again. I don't want to spoil too much,
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but I watched this film as like Tom Cruise really
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stepping up in being like, I will earn my place.
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If I'm going to be acting across from Jack Nicholson,
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I'm going to earn that spot.
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I'm not gonna as with everything he does.
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It is not a half assed I'm just gonna coast
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on my good looks. Like I love watching this because
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I sense in him just that fire to like, I'm
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going to earn this. I'm working with Rob Ryner, I'm
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working with the script by the great Aaron Sorkin. I'm
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going to earn every minute I'm on screen. That's what
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this performance feels like to me, and.
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I love that. Do you know what the plot of
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the film.
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I just imagine there's some sort of court martial situation
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because it is a court room drama, I think for
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the most part, and that is it.
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I don't know.
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I guess Jack Nicholson is maybe the bad guy. Maybe
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maybe maybe maybe I don't know, but but yeah, I
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don't know. Give me an opportunity to kind of look
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into the movie more too, maybe see like, oh, there's
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fun like behind the scenes stories.
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Yes, I was just.
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Watching the Uh there's a Roger Corman documentary that was
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playing on TCM last night, and oh cool.
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Most of that it was really great.
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They talked a little bit about like how Jack Nicholson
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got his start as an actor, and was like writing
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some things for him too, and I think they worked
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on that he was in he played the Sadist or
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the Sadomasochist and Little Chapahrs, which they shot in two days.
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I didn't realize they were shooting movies in two days
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or they would like rehearse Monday, Tuesday, onesday, and then
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Thursday Friday they'd shoot a hour and a half eighty
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minute movie. And Jack Nicholson, like, I don't know, it
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was instrumental in like shaping his part and playing at
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the comedy and it was a little bit more like
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wild West back in those days with like you Hollywood.
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But it's really interesting. Check it out and it sounds
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an appreciation for him as an actor.
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And he's and you know, I know we always when
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we get you and I get together, it's to build
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Tom Cruise love fest.
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But I don't want to short.
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Not intentionally, like I don't think about him, like unless
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we're talking about Oh I do, I think, Yeah, I
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actually like pretty much.
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I've never thought about catch.
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A Tom Cruise movie on most of the time.
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My hope is that somehow AI algorithm will read the
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transcript of every Missing Frams episode and.
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Somehow feed that into his podcast. This is a Tom
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Cruise podcast, perfect.
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And everything, acting religion podcast. The only thing he's not
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good at keeping a wife.
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It's not his problem, too soon. He's married to the cinema.
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He's married to the theater. That's exactly. He's married to
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his work.
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He is, we want to work a God bless He's
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like God Bless queen. Yeah, he's like the modern day
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you know icon.
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Yes, it's true. I am that.
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I remember I had to do a scene in an
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acting class from a few good men. The you can't
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handle the Truth scene, and I remember thinking I was
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fourteen fifteen, and I was.
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Like, I can't do this. And I didn't do it.
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I was terrible, But I just remember thinking, like how
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a much I couldn't read the line. I was playing
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Tom Cruise's character and I couldn't read the line like
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I was like, you know, because I want the truth
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you had to put and I couldn't read it again,
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not spoiling too much, I'll only say that portion of
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it because that's the part, you know, But I couldn't.
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I was just like, you know, I want the truth.
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I want the truth because.
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I couldn't think of a way to do it that
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wasn't screaming it like you're not.
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A faker, You're an actor.
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You're I tried, I feel it, but I couldn't feeling
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that you're giving you what's authentically is there.
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During the day you're giving that. I know, but I couldn't.
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I couldn't do it.
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And it's because he did it the best. He did
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it the best, and I just was.
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So caught up. I was like, you have to yell
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the wine. I want the truth.
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I couldn't not yell it because you had to yell
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it because that's the way it should be done.
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So I but you have to bring yourself to that point.
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You, yeah, we do. You have to build it up.
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But maybe it was the other actress just weren't giving
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you anything to work with.
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No, they weren't. They were terrible. They were not on
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my level. Fourteen fifteen i'd seen Spider Man.
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Maybe you were giving Haley Joe Osmond level performance as
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a child actor, and then they were Jake Wood. They
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were Wood Jake Sorry, screwy doughpot.
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Oh Man Jake.
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Okay for him, I hope so, I just hope he's
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He's like the Shilah Buff of child acts.
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You know, thing can happen, but Shilah Buff was the
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Shilah Buff of child actor.
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Yeah. Really, I was just looking for a reference, looking
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for a guy, looking for a good guy. Good for him,
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guylea Buff. So do you think, how do you feel
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he would be in a remake of a few good men?
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That's what he would probably be. Great.
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Shilah Buff is another great actor.
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I thought he was one of the best parts of
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Indiana Jones and Crystal skull.
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Man God, God bless you.
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Like a character from A Few Good Men?
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Oh?
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Yes, So do you feel any level of excitement anticipation?
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Do you think you'll enjoy it? Like, how are you feeling?
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I think we didn't enjoy it. I think Aaron's organ
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is great.
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I you know, I I like sharp, crackling dialogue. I yeah,
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and I again, I've been on I'm often on a
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Tom Cruise kick, but I've just happened to be watching
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and catching his movies lately. Watched through most of the
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most of the Mission Impossibles, watched through the latest Top Gun,
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and caught clips of the original Top Gun. So I
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don't know, he's very fresh in the mind.
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So I'm excited. You're ready?
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All right, let's do it. We'll watch it and then
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we'll find out. We'll find out if it lives up.
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Oh, I'll be honest. I'll be Bruto, You'll be Brett.
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I'm ready to handle your truth. Give me all your truth.
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Now available to oh non video cassette.
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We are back, Richie Papio.
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How did you about a Few good Men? You know
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it was great.
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I was thinking I was thinking about it. I think
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it was great, and I like at the end of
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the movie when I love how it'll give you that
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old fashioned the end card, and then it goes into
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John Phillips SUSA, which is like, I feel like we
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don't have his music playing enough. There's something like over
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the top dramatic, melo dramatic about it about his music
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that I feel like, Oh, there's there's more cinematic opportunities
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to use it earnestly and ironically, and this movie kind
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of uses it both earnestly and credit. But I I
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thought like, on the one hand, really enjoyed it, liked
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it a lot, but then also I was like, why
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haven't I seen this movie? This is like the movie
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that you would have watched in your history or English
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class teacher was like had a hangover, was like, I
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don't wanna you know, this was like the Mississippi Burning,
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Like this was in the rotation with like Mississippi Burning, and.
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I remember to kill.
489
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I'm trying to think of who our history teacher was,
490
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but he showed glory in class, and I remember seeing
491
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just bits and pieces. That's another missing frame that I
492
00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:51.480
need to check off my list. And I have the
493
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:53.480
four King of Glory. I've been wanting to watch it,
494
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But you're right, this is one that I'm actually kind
495
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of shocked. I do remember and we talked about it.
496
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I did the scene in a theater class. But it
497
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.160
also doesn't doesn't it feel like something that our drama
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teacher Haynes would have put on for us.
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00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.039
I thought she was pretty good about like, like you know,
500
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:12.200
there were so many There was a filing cabinet in
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the corner with a ship ton of scripts, and so
502
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:16.599
it was always like, all right, pull from a script,
503
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.480
and every now and then you'd have a weird project,
504
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.319
like when we got that long term sub and yes,
505
00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:24.880
we were in the same drama class, yes, and and
506
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.480
we like I don't know what the assignment was. It
507
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.519
was like create a story. Like here's here's a product.
508
00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.039
You make up, made up product, and you're gonna do
509
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.720
a ten minute play war movie with product placement and
510
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.519
it was all made up. We ran We were like, oh,
511
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we need to we want to perform it for you.
512
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We didn't get to film it. We're gonna perform it
513
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for you. We'll get you you you, we'll go get
514
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some costumes, give us about twenty minutes to set up
515
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and before and.
516
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We made we could have we could have just done
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a few good men.
518
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:56.279
We could have just done a few good men. So
519
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.039
you're right, there are there were like like, all right,
520
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I'm gonna do a scene from Scarface and it's like
521
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two teenagers with like a bunch of sugar snorting.
522
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That on a on a desk.
523
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:09.839
It was like it was like a scene that shouldn't
524
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be done by kids, performed by kids, Yes.
525
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Which which then you think, maybe this is how it
526
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.240
should be performed at all points, is teenagers should be
527
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:21.240
doing these things.
528
00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.680
That I would love to see teenagers like and now
529
00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:27.119
photomac Falls high school presents.
530
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:35.920
I would like to see Gillie. Yeah, Gelie would be great.
531
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:36.920
Gelie would be great.
532
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:43.359
I actually would prefer to see like shitty scenes from
533
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.559
bad movie, famously bad movies. If you're going to remake something,
534
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.839
remake that's something that's famously bad and then make it
535
00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:51.079
good trying to spin off.
536
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:55.440
Don't make me try to recreate the scene.
537
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:59.119
With the truth you had handle the truth. Yeah, I
538
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:01.319
can't do that. But yeah, you know, I'm.
539
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.880
Sure whatever you did was valiant and true to you.
540
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:05.319
What you're feeling is.
541
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:09.160
As true as could be. But yes, you So we're
542
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.680
on we're on the thumbs up train.
543
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:13.519
We're getting absolutely thumbs up train.
544
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:15.640
Yeah, And I think it is one of those where
545
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.920
obviously Aaron Sorkin it was a play first, and you
546
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:23.079
feel that the musicality of his dialogue, and apparently this
547
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:25.079
was I think I don't remember if we talked about this,
548
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:29.920
but this was based pretty directly on a true story.
549
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:30.960
The victim of.
550
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:35.240
The hazing, the code read, was not murdered, but there
551
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:38.039
were people arrested because a lot of the same symptoms,
552
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:42.960
the bleeding and things like that happened. Yes, the guy
553
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:47.200
went to the hospital, and so the stakes were raised for.
554
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.400
This, but the stakes are raised for this, but it
555
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.480
does still feel like smaller in scope in terms of like, hey,
556
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.400
even the courtroom, it's like not that crowded of a
557
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:59.160
courtroom ring, like it's you know, a time to kill
558
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.200
a mockingbird or if you're a general, kill and you
559
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:05.839
would kill. Which is the sweatiest Bob movie I think
560
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.039
that I've ever seen. I mean, Roger Moore is sweating
561
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:12.720
just walking up a hill. He's exhausted, six years old guy.
562
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:17.599
But this this movie, it still felt a little more
563
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:21.640
There's a theatricality to the performances, you could tell like
564
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.319
there was a lyricism and a wittiness to the and
565
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:28.000
a density the like the the writing, but.
566
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:30.359
It it I don't know.
567
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.279
I'm gonna contradict myself because I'm on the one hand,
568
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.559
I'm gonna say it doesn't feel as fully formed as
569
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:40.319
like Aaron Sorkiny as his later TV stuff, where like
570
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:41.799
if you were to see a scene from The West
571
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.079
Wing or a scene from Sports Night, just so many
572
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.680
people talking as fast as freaking his Girl Friday characters
573
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.200
in a modern setting, you can tell it Sorkin. I
574
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.759
can see like the seeds be as planeted the sorkinisms,
575
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:58.880
and you can see like the way like so many
576
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:02.200
characters talk, there is kind of almost an old fashioned
577
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.559
quality to it that I like. But it's like all
578
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.640
of the laugh lines, all of the witty jokes, and
579
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.200
the stark is really just like one character says something,
580
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.000
another character repeats exactly what they said, but with a
581
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.599
question mark on the end of it. Right, that's the joke.
582
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.279
But the line, the setup line was so smart or
583
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.880
like well constructed that it's like, oh, it bears repeating,
584
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:31.119
so it makes sense. But yeah, I don't know, there
585
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.440
is a there is an Aaron Sorkiny structure to it.
586
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.799
So yeah, it's not one hundred percent like that's the
587
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.519
Sorkin that I know now, but it's close.
588
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:46.920
It's engaging on a level where this whole movie has
589
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.559
to be engaging on that level because that's what it is.
590
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:53.839
It's a character drama, dialogue driven. There isn't anything fancy
591
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.200
or flashy happening. What's fancy and flashy about the movie
592
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:03.599
is the performances like that, Yeah, exactly, and.
593
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.720
It is a showcase for both of them. I think Nicholson.
594
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.440
The film was nominated for a few Oscars, and Nicholson
595
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.359
I think was the only actor who was nominated, which is.
596
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:14.400
A great job in this movie.
597
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.279
I mean, he he really does like he plays this
598
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:22.519
part often. He plays like the cocky, full of himself guy.
599
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.160
He's challenged a little bit, he gets shaken, but then
600
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.599
he comes out triumphant and he's still like this is
601
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.640
from a time Like I don't know if we have
602
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:33.960
as much of a as an as an audience in general,
603
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.039
like have as much of a patience for those types
604
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.960
of characters as much anymore as we see them all
605
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.079
the time, Like, unless it's Telly start, unless it's a superhero,
606
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.200
like that character type has been elevated to like it's
607
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:49.480
only really tolerable if they have insane super power power. Yeah,
608
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.960
or they're played by Tom Cruise, Right. But yeah, the
609
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:54.680
other thing I was gonna say that I was kind
610
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.759
of again on the fence about because it's like I
611
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.720
could we were just talking about they had to take
612
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.160
the true story but turn it into a murder. There
613
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.559
is still something about this. Yes, it's like branches of
614
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:11.480
the military, important investigation. A guy Jack Nicklson's character is
615
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.039
on the precipice of being promoted promoted to like a
616
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.480
national security advisor role for the president of the United States, Right,
617
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:20.759
So those are big things.
618
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:21.559
It's all in DC.
619
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.160
It's in this wood paneled like courtroom. A lot of this,
620
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.440
a lot of it is set there. But it still
621
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:31.920
feels like a smaller and more insignificant story than say,
622
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.960
like you know, when you when there's story is about
623
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:39.480
like the halls of of DC, there's a lot more
624
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:43.240
Usually there's a bit more like palace intrigue and conspiracy
625
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:47.039
and and and the stories feel like they have a
626
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:51.680
larger ripple effect through like history. So this does still
627
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:52.640
feel a little bit more.
628
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.279
It sounds like, well, what you're touching on a little
629
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:57.960
bit is like as far as like what you were
630
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.160
kind of anticipating, maybe was a little bit more of
631
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.519
that like going in that direction. So was it weird
632
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.000
for you? Like did it throw you off at all?
633
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.319
When it was just kind of like at the end
634
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:08.839
of it, you're like, oh, well, this is kind of
635
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.519
like like you're saying, a grounded courtroom drama.
636
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:12.839
There isn't a whole lot.
637
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:16.559
It's like very methodical and very sort of laying out
638
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.079
like here's what the case is, here's what the like
639
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.759
the beats are. We're gonna start with this cocky guy,
640
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.200
this young lawyer who's like, you know, wants to be
641
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:28.119
great but also like fears his greatness and is not
642
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.400
ready to take that big step yet. And we kind
643
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.960
of follow that journey. But then we also like we're
644
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.359
kind of following this case, but that is like really,
645
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.440
like you said, it's not necessarily going for like this
646
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.640
big like what's going on really behind the sea sort
647
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.359
of secret thing. We're kind of the the veil is
648
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.279
sort of lifted from the get go. We sort of
649
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.079
know what's going on from the beginning and then it's
650
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:53.240
just a matter of can we can we you know,
651
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.680
participating or not participating. But as like the audience that
652
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.839
is sort of along for the ride with this group
653
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.160
of young and strapping, hot young.
654
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.920
Lawyers and ke and Kevin and Kevin Pollock, who is
655
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:10.920
the hottest of them all?
656
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.720
Pollock, he you know, he had a great I haven't
657
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.480
listened to I don't know if he still does his podcast.
658
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:16.880
I haven't listened to it in a while. But when
659
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.960
I started to listen to podcasts about ten years ago
660
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.599
or so, I happened upon his and he had some
661
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.240
great interviews and a lot of fun stories.
662
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.559
I love to listen. And he's so good in this movie.
663
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:29.599
And he's great in this movie.
664
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:31.279
I didn't realize he was in this movie until I
665
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.440
saw the opening credits, and I.
666
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:34.559
Was happy to see him. Yeah.
667
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.440
Also a great cast across the board, like Noah Wiley,
668
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.079
Who's who I just watched the first episode of The
669
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.720
Pit Oh yeah, yeah, yeah good.
670
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.319
And he's got a moment. Kevin Bacon has.
671
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.759
A lot of I have another degree to add to,
672
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.079
you know, when we're playing sixtges a. Kevin Bacon, Oh yeah,
673
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:55.559
dust off, this movie I.
674
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.119
Didn't know, so, which is great.
675
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.640
But I do think, like, what's what's nice about this
676
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.880
movie is, as I was saying before, like I'm used
677
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.039
to there being a little bit more intrigue in movies
678
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:12.720
set in this type of setting, and so it didn't
679
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.480
actually have that as a crutch, Like I had just
680
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.640
watched a few of the Jack Bryan movies, Like I
681
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:22.559
just watched Clear not Clear and Present, Clear and Present danger, yeah,
682
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:23.240
for the first time.
683
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.359
And patrit Games is Patriot Games I.
684
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.880
Had seen before, and I watched that too, and and
685
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.400
other movies from that kind of time period, like because
686
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:33.839
this is.
687
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.599
The era of sort of like we're moving into the
688
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:39.960
like the conspiracy thriller, the Firm, like Tom Tom Cruise
689
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.519
is the friller.
690
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:46.799
The psycho sexual thriller in disclosure, a kind of poster
691
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:49.519
where you see a man and like going down a
692
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:54.319
woman's chest and the woman's like, she's like but it's
693
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.839
forbiddenscho sexual like.
694
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:09.800
Or what I'm it doesn't get any hotter. But yeah, I.
695
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.679
Think this didn't have that as a cru like the
696
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.599
only crutch I think because the casting was great, the
697
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.039
writing was great, and it couldn't use like other movies
698
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.920
would like some kind of massive international entanglement that everybody's
699
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.800
like Tenson on edge about it is gonna be war,
700
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:25.800
We're gonna blow shit up.
701
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:27.559
It was just the music.
702
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.159
The music was a little more overwrought, but like very
703
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.360
nineties more overwrought than I expected, a little bit more
704
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.199
like telegraphing.
705
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.360
Like that we're supposed to feel intrigued, and I turned on,
706
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.800
Oh no, what's happen? But they're gonna choke that. Oh no,
707
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:42.559
he's dead.
708
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.559
Wow No, But I I it feels that's like the
709
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.199
one thing that doesn't feel timeless.
710
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:49.480
With this movie.
711
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.960
Yeah, that stands out to me is not fling timeless.
712
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.199
And I enjoyed it because I like nostalgic for things. Yeah,
713
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.920
but but that was the one thing that stood out
714
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:01.079
to me that was like, I feel like that was
715
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.719
doing a lot more heavier lifting maybe than it needed to,
716
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.079
because I feel like the performances were enough to really.
717
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.079
Lift you up the states. Yeah.
718
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.559
Yeah, And I think what it is as far as
719
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.320
the like we're along for the ride the whole time,
720
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.719
and really the drama is kind of what makes the
721
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:23.719
film suspenseful is that we're kind of like, how are
722
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.159
they going to convince because they're kind of convincing us
723
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.639
in the process. Like I'm watching this, this is probably
724
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:32.639
the third or fourth time I've seen it where I'm
725
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.960
just like, I love the way we discover the case
726
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:38.840
and the angles of the case.
727
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:40.960
As it goes along. I think that's so brilliant.
728
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.599
And I think Sorkin's writing is so brilliant and that
729
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.440
he kind of beautifully lays out these clues in a
730
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.159
way that is as interesting as possible because it can
731
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get It's like if you have a weak cast or
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week writing, then you're just literally listening to people's spout
733
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expository data the whole time.
734
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.679
And was stacked from the top to bottom and yeah,
735
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solid in it.
736
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And they do.
737
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I think they do a really good job, Like there
738
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is a style coming into this knowing it's Aaron Sorkin,
739
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:14.039
and even seeing him in the bar he's in like yeah,
740
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:18.039
that's right, yeah, behind him as a regular lawyer. They
741
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.039
these actors really do make it all sound very natural,
742
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like he's he writes very these very wordy speeches, but
743
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.440
the performance has made everything. Then you can sink your
744
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teeth something you can sink your teeth into. And I
745
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.599
feel like everybody, like the script is already up here
746
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.960
in terms of like just prime material, and the actors
747
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:39.679
met it and elevated it.
748
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.840
Yes, yeah, which is great. And I think I don't
749
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.079
know if you looked at Roger Ebert's review. I did,
750
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and I was no please.
751
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:48.920
I was surprised to give it two and a half stars.
752
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:50.559
And what did he say about it?
753
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He's I mean, you know, he's in the front lines,
754
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.199
so his opinion of movies are are We're off?
755
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And like, whoa, that's a hot take. But I appreciate it.
756
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.039
So I always his reviews are always mostly like I
757
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.960
would say, more often than not, they're fun to read,
758
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:06.519
even when.
759
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:10.079
You disagree with you. But his the opening line is
760
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.480
rob Ryder is a Few Good Men is one of
761
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.079
those movies that tells you what it's going to do,
762
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:15.679
does it.
763
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And then tells you what it did? Yes, yeah, which
764
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.400
which is true mistake.
765
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.559
What's suspenseful is like how it happens?
766
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:25.239
Is it?
767
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:30.119
How are they able to tease this information or pull
768
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:33.480
this information or rank it out of Jack Nicholson's character
769
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.480
and everybody's kind of into everybody's intuitions are right, Demi
770
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:43.119
Warror is right from the beginning and then uh, Tom
771
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.039
Cruise ends up you know, his instincts end up being correct,
772
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:48.679
and it's but.
773
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.519
You're rooting by that point. You're rooting for them, so
774
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:51.679
you're happy. Yeah.
775
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:56.159
Well it's interesting because it's like that's a that is
776
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.239
a valid critique, Like I think that is could be
777
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.880
a weakness of the film, and maybe that's kind of
778
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:05.079
what we're getting at. Like in the hands of lesser filmmakers,
779
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.159
lesser writers, lesser actors, it would have just been like, oh,
780
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.079
they're just telling us what's happening. But I think it
781
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.719
is because the emotional stakes, in the emotional through line
782
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.559
for each of the characters is so clear, and because
783
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.800
we empathize so strongly with the characters. Like you said,
784
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.239
we're rooting for them, so we want them to succeed
785
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:27.840
and we want to feel like a part of the team,
786
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and that's what we're being brought in as that's what
787
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.239
I feel like when I'm watching it.
788
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:33.000
It's funny.
789
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.960
The first time I saw it, I was a little
790
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.599
kind of, I want to say, kind of bored by
791
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:41.800
the first half of the film, when I was so
792
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.480
familiar with the courtroom stuff I had seen a lot
793
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.639
of that on TV. So the first time I sat
794
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:48.159
down and watched it was kind of like the first
795
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.280
time I sat down and watched It's a Wonderful Life
796
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.719
from beginning to end, and was like, wow, three quarters
797
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:59.199
of this movie has nothing to do with Clarence and
798
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.480
George Bailey getting to see what life without him would
799
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:02.760
be like.
800
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:04.559
And if you're watching an Amazon they cut that.
801
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:05.760
Part out, do they?
802
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:09.719
Really? There's a version of it without the him jump,
803
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:13.920
like jumping off the bridge really interesting, very weird.
804
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:15.400
I don't know why you would watch.
805
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:16.960
That, But I don't know either, because I think so
806
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.199
many people think that's the entire movie, and really there's
807
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.760
like an hour and a half of a whole movie
808
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.840
before that doesn't have a whole lot to do with
809
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.599
the final quarter of the film with that fantasy sequence,
810
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:30.960
So I think a few good men for me watching it.
811
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.400
It was kind of the same thing where I was like,
812
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.000
when are they gonna get to the courtroom? Like I
813
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.119
thought this was a courtroom drama. There's a lot of
814
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.079
like they're spending a lot of time researching, And maybe
815
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.719
I was more aligned with Ebert's initial review. I don't
816
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:46.639
know if he went back and reevaluated it because I
817
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.719
know he does that a lot, which is great, but
818
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:51.039
I think that was kind of my vibe, is it
819
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.000
kind of like okay, because I'd already seen the outcome
820
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.760
in the courtroom stuff. I think I was a little
821
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.679
impatient with the film kind of setting.
822
00:39:58.360 --> 00:39:58.960
All of that up.
823
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.840
But I've watched it like in the years since, Like
824
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.480
the more I watch it, the more I love it.
825
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:11.800
And partly because I love watching Tom Cruise's character just
826
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:14.880
the journey that he's on. I love the relationships between
827
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:20.039
the characters. But I'm also just from someone who appreciates
828
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:26.239
like solid procedural drama thriller writing, seeing the way Sorkin
829
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:28.559
kind of lays out the clues for you and sets
830
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.960
everything up, hits those beats and like sets up the
831
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:32.599
characters for.
832
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:33.639
The journeys they're going to go on.
833
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.840
I don't know, like that first viewing, I was younger,
834
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.360
like I was probably in my late teens early twenties,
835
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:42.000
but in the year sense, certainly this viewing and then
836
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:46.800
my last viewing, which was in November, I don't find
837
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:50.719
myself bored at all, and I don't find myself minding
838
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.960
any of the if we're talking about projecting what the
839
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.079
story is and projecting it.
840
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.639
So much about the performance, is so much about how
841
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.800
it happenapens because the little things.
842
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:04.960
I think that's a testament to his writing. Because he
843
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.079
wasn't a lawyer, right it seems like he was. He
844
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:09.320
should have been, Yea.
845
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:13.360
Because the the what he writes as plot twists are
846
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.079
they naturally arise out of the story. They're just like
847
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:19.599
the twists of what's revealed in the trial and what
848
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.480
like the little minor details of what happened and who
849
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.159
changed whose story to make it more advantageous for them.
850
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.400
Yes, because it's not, well, it's not it's not about
851
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.519
because I think what I would argue with if I
852
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.960
was on at the movies with mister Ebert, I would say,
853
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.079
it's not about what we know, It's about how are
854
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.280
they going to convince the jury? Are they going to
855
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:45.239
save these guys? Like, is how we know what's happening,
856
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.400
we can see it, how do you prove it in
857
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.960
a court of law? That to me is like that's
858
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:51.599
the crux of the movie. And that's what makes it
859
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:55.719
so fascinating because through that the emotional journey for.
860
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.159
Tom Cruise, whatever his name.
861
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:08.960
Is, Kennyfy Caffe Caffey, Ken Day, Kathy, Kathy Gvi Baits,
862
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:13.079
Kathy Bates, breaking people's legs, breaking James Kahn's leg in
863
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:13.440
the bed.
864
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.480
But it's the emotional journey of him realizing that he
865
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.519
is a great lawyer, that he does the legacy, that
866
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:23.239
he wants to live up to his father's legacy. He's
867
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:28.079
done it, and that emotional journey. We're along for the
868
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:32.280
ride with him, and the case is the exciting surface
869
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:36.760
level stuff that we're engaged with, but subtextually, it's the
870
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:41.239
joy of that journey of realizing he's really good at
871
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:46.559
this and he does care and he is passionate about this,
872
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.519
and you know, it's it's very moving at the end
873
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:53.679
of the film, when you know he he's finally lived
874
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:54.440
up to his potential.
875
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:57.199
He's realized the value of who he is, what.
876
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.480
He's doing, who he's serving, and that most moment of
877
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.920
you know, you don't need a was, you don't need
878
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.199
a patch, you don't need a badge to to be
879
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.000
honorable and getting the solo you know there's an officer
880
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:08.480
on deck.
881
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:10.320
It's such a beautiful moment.
882
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:16.039
I think the character journeys, regardless of whether or not.
883
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.800
We know everything is telegraphed and we know that Jessup
884
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:24.280
is guilty. It's about like, can mister Cruz rise to
885
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.079
the challenge, improve it and and win the case?
886
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:28.119
And he does.
887
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.800
Yeah, he does as an actor too, I mean like
888
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.559
he really does hold his own against Jack Nicholson, and
889
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:35.880
he really isn't in this movie that much.
890
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.400
But now he's like one of those like big president.
891
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.320
He's like, yes, his.
892
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.599
Presence is felt throughout the movie and they're really anticipating
893
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.000
are they going to bring him to the stand. Well,
894
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.719
you know they have to, I know the famous scene.
895
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:50.480
That's that's the thing. Coming into this and really only
896
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.599
knowing you can't handle the truth, right, It's like I'm
897
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.880
waiting for that moment and and often like anticipation because
898
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.719
I have such an overactive imagination. After a trailer, it's
899
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:02.800
like the movie is a wrecked for me, because yeah,
900
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.920
I even if I didn't want to, I've constructed what
901
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.480
I think is a better movie in my head, whether
902
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:12.079
that actually is my intuitive sense of like this scene
903
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.039
to go here, this scene will go here, and piecing
904
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.199
together the plot when the movie isn't exactly that.
905
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.280
And sometimes the trailer is the better movie. Sometimes the
906
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:20.679
trailer is the better movie.
907
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.480
But here I was that was the only thing I
908
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:29.000
knew really going into it, and I that was great.
909
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.880
It was better than I imagined it would be. And
910
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.320
that scene and and because you needed that the build
911
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:36.239
up to get there.
912
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.000
Because it's because it is it's a it is an
913
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:43.599
actor I'm gonna win an Oscar moment. Well yeah, it's
914
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.920
like isolated on its own, but it's like when you
915
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.360
see it in context, it's, uh, it means so much
916
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.159
because we are finally put like, these guys are pushed
917
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.079
to the limits. We know what's on the line for Kathy, like,
918
00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:59.559
we know what's going on he we know what he
919
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.880
needs to get jessup to say, and so everything around
920
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.599
it and the battle of wits and wills between these
921
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:10.239
two guys, we understand the context.
922
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:13.320
And then like and they both earned that moment too
923
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.679
as actors, but as characters too. And it's like knowing
924
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.840
that that the hubris of of Jack Nicholson's character that
925
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.480
he was going to he couldn't contain himself, and Tom
926
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.199
Cruise knew that he couldn't contain himself, or at least
927
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.760
into felt the instinct that like, I gotta go for it.
928
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.599
And he even shared that look with Kevin Pollack. I
929
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:36.880
forget every characters.
930
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:38.880
Welcome to the show.
931
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:44.920
The looks that they shared that there was like just
932
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:52.239
so well paced that that build up to that moment, and.
933
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.320
Even like and this is again where I would disagree
934
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.599
with politely kindly disagree with mister Ebert. You know, Hitchcock
935
00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.679
always talks about like the way you create suspenses, you
936
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.440
should know the bomb underneath the table and you have
937
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.360
the cover. The people are talking and they don't know
938
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.320
the bomb is there, but we know the bomb is there.
939
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.920
This whole movie, the bomb is this team, this trio
940
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.639
of lawyers, like they're the bomb. They're the ones giving
941
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.159
us all the information about the bomb. We know the
942
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.280
bomb is ticking beneath the counter, like you know, it's
943
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:21.239
a verbal bomb.
944
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:22.320
It's a it's a clue.
945
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.639
It's a piece of brief little moments to like where
946
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.800
they relax the tension, like when they have that montage
947
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.119
of them studying and yes, two guys a girl and
948
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:39.039
at Marshall, it's like a freaking sitcom or their laughter. Yeah,
949
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:44.679
and you got the music. I want to see a
950
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.000
few good men and a girl and a pizza place.
951
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:48.719
Yes, great, but.
952
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.280
Yeah, and I really I just hope that to me
953
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:54.559
and Tom got together.
954
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.039
I know, well, I appreciate that they didn't in the movie,
955
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:01.199
though I know I so have that that didn't happen.
956
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:03.719
That was apparently a big studio note.
957
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:06.039
They didn't get together in the play, but they told
958
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:10.199
Sorkin like, when you get you're playing with the big
959
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.639
boys in Hollywood, and if they don't bang, it's not
960
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.880
a real movie. So there was a he wrote it
961
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.079
into the screenplay. He wasn't happy about it. He was like,
962
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.519
all right, I guess I'll just go with what you
963
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.960
guys say. And when Reiner, when Rob Reiner got on board,
964
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:27.960
he was like, no, no, He's like, it wasn't in
965
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.840
the play. It doesn't make sense. It's gratuitous. Apparently an
966
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:38.679
unnamed studio executive said why why is she a female?
967
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.559
Why is Galloway a female if she's not going to
968
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:45.920
sleep with Tom Cruise, And it was like, okay, kind
969
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.320
of proving the point of that character within the movie
970
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:51.719
is like, I mean, it makes sense. It's like that's
971
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.960
Hollywood for sure. Kudos to Rob Yner, Kudos to Aaron Sorkin,
972
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:58.840
like for because the chemistry and the relationship is so
973
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:03.239
pure and the chemistry is so palpable you were you're
974
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.280
expecting it and almost anticipating it, and there is like
975
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.440
a flirtatious they go on a date together. There's still
976
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:13.599
that vibe apparently the original as an artist, just.
977
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.119
Because like we've seen it played a type of role play.
978
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:20.440
We've seen them the copy guy and she's.
979
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:19.719
Like I.
980
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.119
But it's sweet, and you know what, if they ended
981
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.079
up together, it would have I think it would have
982
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:26.599
ruined it.
983
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:33.559
But because they we don't see it happening exactly.
984
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:35.920
So it's I love that, and I love that they
985
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.519
stuck to their guns and knew, like that doesn't matter,
986
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:41.719
that doesn't need to be in this movie because it's
987
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:43.079
not the conventional choice.
988
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:44.840
It's not uh, you know, we're.
989
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.239
Talking about Rob Ryan or the guy who has created
990
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.599
what is arguably the greatest rom com of all time
991
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.320
when Harry met Sally. So it's like the impulse is there,
992
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.000
the and you feel it, but they didn't go for it.
993
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.360
That's brilliant and I love that because it's, like you said,
994
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.559
it's too obvious and it kind of undercuts what the
995
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:00.159
movie is.
996
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.960
And I think it's a testament again to Rob Rianer's direction.
997
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.239
I mean, he's so good at that at the relationships,
998
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.079
at relationships in general, and the relationships in this movie
999
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:13.000
are like they're not overwrought, but they're all he's not
1000
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.119
trying too hard. There's nothing like fancy. There's no like
1001
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.079
crazy bells and whistles of like, no fancy camera work.
1002
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:23.320
Transitions are very simple. It's it's a very straightforward, like
1003
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.000
courtroom drama from the early nineties, but it's really effective.
1004
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:32.679
Yes, at the same time, I can't imagine the headaches
1005
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:38.159
of filming a courtroom drama, you know, like and you know,
1006
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.880
thank god they had such a great script and such
1007
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:42.119
great performers, But you're talking about like so much of
1008
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:47.159
your film hinges on very dialogue, like like Roger Ebert
1009
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.239
was saying, they're telling you, like they tell you how
1010
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.559
what the story is, then they show you, and then
1011
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.519
they tell you what happened. That's what they're doing for
1012
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:58.800
fifty percent of this movie is being in this courtroom
1013
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.559
and going through the case and going through each piece
1014
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.920
of evidence, And how do you balance that with like
1015
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.639
actual storytelling so it doesn't just become like we're in
1016
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.360
a court like it's incredible, it's such a and and
1017
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.519
you know, Rob Reiner was an actor and understood he
1018
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:21.079
knew and you sense him relishing the opportunity to play
1019
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.559
with a script like Sword Kids. You sense it from
1020
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:27.320
all the casts, but you do sense it from behind
1021
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.719
the camera too. This is a guy who understands what
1022
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.320
great actors like Tom Cruise and Nicholson and Demi Moore
1023
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.920
like what they're capable of when you give them the opportunity.
1024
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.559
You got Christopher Guest being like, you know, he's done
1025
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:40.519
doing a great job.
1026
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:41.239
And right, he had a.
1027
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:41.960
Great moment too.
1028
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.239
And again it's subtle but good, like like the.
1029
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.840
Questions are, you're like rooting for the You're rooting for
1030
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.480
the main characters in simple little ways like oh great,
1031
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:52.519
they got a good question.
1032
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.719
They got a good one, like yeah they got you.
1033
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.559
Yeah, so that's that's great. And then yeah again, even
1034
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.800
though like it's it's very all, it's all simple. It's
1035
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.639
I prefer all right. Off. I don't always prefer because
1036
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.960
I like some stylized movie here and there, but I
1037
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:11.519
really do prefer when it's like not overwrought and it
1038
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:15.440
is just like we're just telling the story and the
1039
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:19.440
simple moments that I would like credit him and cinematographer
1040
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.599
Rob Ryaner cinematographer are like just the way that they
1041
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.440
focus on each member of the defense team.
1042
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.079
They focus on Robert Richards at the end.
1043
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.440
Yeah, when at the end when they're when the judge
1044
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:35.519
is reading off the verdict for the three charges, and
1045
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:39.360
he's like one on Tom Cruise, one on the Debbie
1046
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.159
war and then one on like he goes from Chemic
1047
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.800
Pollock to the two guys and that's when they get
1048
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:53.079
their dishonorable discharge. So yeah, and it leads to that
1049
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.159
great moment where he's like, Oh, you don't need a
1050
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.599
you don't need a patch to be honorable.
1051
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.480
Yeah, that's great. What about the movie like caught you.
1052
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.239
Not off guard, but maybe like either pleasantly surprised you
1053
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.719
or maybe disappointed you, Like were you hoping that it's
1054
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:09.480
you know, you wanted.
1055
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:11.119
I mean, I think i'd, like I said before, I
1056
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:12.920
think I kind of actually thought it was going to
1057
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.400
be the stakes were going to be a little bigger,
1058
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:15.840
and the stakes were quibly enough in that like there
1059
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:17.880
were people's lives and futures were at stake, and the
1060
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.119
careers were at stake, But I didn't know the reason.
1061
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.840
That we thought maybe there was a character.
1062
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:27.880
Exactly what got Jack Nagelson into the courtroom, right? And
1063
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.360
what I did like actually too, is especially when he's
1064
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.199
first introduced, Yeah, you get a sense that he's like
1065
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.480
there's like a cult of personality around him and he's
1066
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.000
probably getting away with more.
1067
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.039
Than he should. But there's he's very charismatic.
1068
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.880
He's not played like he's a villain, and he's given
1069
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.400
a lot of great lines to justify why he did
1070
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:52.400
what he did, which I thought worked in the movie's favor. Yeah,
1071
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.559
it made it a little bit more, it made the
1072
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:58.679
relationships and dynamics more complex. But going into this, I
1073
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.000
thought like the trial was like, oh, somebody shot a missile.
1074
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.039
Should have like something a little bit more like, oh,
1075
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:09.199
you know, we just we blew up a platoon and
1076
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:11.039
now we got to talk about.
1077
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:12.440
It in Grenada.
1078
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:16.400
I don't know, like the Cold War could have ended
1079
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.440
a lot easier if you didn't press that red button. Yeah,
1080
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:25.679
come on, Jack, No, But I I prefer I prefer
1081
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:27.800
what I saw because we just got to focus and
1082
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:28.639
worry about.
1083
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:29.480
Like what are the characters?
1084
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:31.239
Are they going to get what they want? Are they
1085
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:34.039
going to get what they're pushing fighting for their push
1086
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.239
to this limit professionally in a way that's like not
1087
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.840
you know, nobody's like going hungry or like getting stabbed.
1088
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:44.159
Although that one, uh, that one guy killed himself, the
1089
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:48.480
one with his second command is the second command.
1090
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:53.119
That was dramatic. Yes, remember that. That name just came
1091
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:54.239
to me. I wish I did.
1092
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.320
I sound like I'm like, oh, you know the guy
1093
00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.760
with the the thing with the thing, the guy. Yeah,
1094
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.519
I dug it. It felt really it felt like an
1095
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:05.920
old school throw like a throwback court oral drama, like
1096
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:07.840
to Kill a mocking Bird or Inherit the Wind or
1097
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:09.000
twelve Angry Man.
1098
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.360
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
1099
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.599
It does feel like that, and it kind of belongs
1100
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.639
like it does belong in that rank of like great
1101
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:20.119
court room dramas. It's always nice because you know, this
1102
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.360
is this is seen as a classic.
1103
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:24.320
It was well received at the time, but.
1104
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:27.360
Like even like you said, like Roger Eberts's review is
1105
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:29.880
kind of lukewarm. I even think, like looking through the
1106
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.320
reviews at the time, like they skewed positive, but we're
1107
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:33.360
certainly not like.
1108
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:39.079
Actually it was going to be like more of a
1109
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.039
I mean it's I think it's a well regarded movie,
1110
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:42.320
but I thought it was going to be more of
1111
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:44.199
like a prestige movie than maybe it.
1112
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:47.760
Is, right and like audience, I'm looking at the Wikipedia
1113
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:50.000
page has a Cinema score of A plus, so like
1114
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:55.320
audience has loved it, which makes sense. Yeah so yeah,
1115
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:58.800
So Ebert's big complaint was basically, in many ways, this
1116
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:00.559
is a good film with the potential to be even
1117
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.800
better than that. The flaws are mostly at the screenpay level. Okay, yeah,
1118
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.039
film doesn't make us work, doesn't allow us to figure
1119
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.199
out things for ourselves as afraid we'll miss things if
1120
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:09.039
they're not spelled out.
1121
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.400
I don't agree with that. I think that's why the
1122
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:13.039
movie works.
1123
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.639
But I also think like the film tells us enough,
1124
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:22.119
but then also like gives there's mystery and like how
1125
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:26.559
we don't know how Tom Cruise is gonna get Jess up,
1126
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:29.840
how is he gonna get Like there's even uncertainty around,
1127
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:31.679
like if you can't get him to do the code red,
1128
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.119
like we know what the stakes are, like you're gonna
1129
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.199
like your career will be ruined, you will be court
1130
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.000
martialed like this is And then on top of that,
1131
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:40.920
our clients are gonna go to prison for the rest
1132
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:44.679
of their lives. So it's like we don't know everything.
1133
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:49.599
We're given just enough to understand what's at stake. We
1134
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:54.000
know why these guys are innocent, and that's all we
1135
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:54.519
need to know.
1136
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:56.239
And then the courtroom scenes.
1137
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:59.400
They give us what they fill in the pieces for us.
1138
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.000
But that's why it's engaging.
1139
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:05.000
So I don't know. No, I wouldn't change anything.
1140
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:08.440
I mean, yeah, my biggest complaint was like the music,
1141
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.320
and I never really complained about music, and I didn't
1142
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:12.079
really have I don't have a problem with it here.
1143
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.639
I just thought it felt a little more dated, but
1144
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:15.920
it's very of its time.
1145
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:20.440
Like I said, I I've found myself every time I
1146
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.679
watch it, I enjoy it more and more and I
1147
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:26.639
am more enamored with the parts that I thought I
1148
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:29.039
was not enamored with or less interested in it. I
1149
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.519
find myself like reacting so strongly to Ebert's review because
1150
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:35.119
I'm like, all of this stuff works for me, and
1151
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.400
I don't feel it's like right over the top. I
1152
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:39.239
don't feel like it's like so like and.
1153
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:41.639
Then would the twist be what would the twist be?
1154
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:42.159
Right?
1155
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:45.039
Because I'm asking like, what do you think a twist
1156
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:45.960
would be if you were going to.
1157
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.800
Write one in I I don't and I like you.
1158
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.000
And the problem is with a twist, it's like that's
1159
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:53.960
a narrative gimmick. And with a movie like this, the
1160
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:58.039
movie relies so strongly on, as you said, the organic
1161
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:01.079
nature of like this is really happening, could be happening
1162
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:01.440
right now.
1163
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:03.920
It actually did happen in real life to a certain extent.
1164
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.679
So I think you when you throw things in like
1165
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.760
a superficial romance or like a big twist, like Jack
1166
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:14.440
Nicholson is Tom Cruise's father, Like you know, I don't
1167
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.599
think any of that serves the vibe of the film.
1168
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.679
It doesn't serve the stringplay. It would have been great
1169
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.519
your dad didn't die ten years ago.
1170
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:30.039
It's me, yeah, helly, I like I just think, like
1171
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:31.760
I think the movie is great.
1172
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:32.800
I think it works really well.
1173
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:36.039
I don't like if I had I don't know if
1174
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:40.440
I love the end when it's like what did we
1175
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:41.039
do wrong?
1176
00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:43.159
And he's like we should we took an oath to
1177
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.559
help the little guy. Yeah, it felt a little. There
1178
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.639
were certain things where it's like all right, we got it,
1179
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:50.159
we get it. Yeah, like or like.
1180
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:54.320
He even has a line about being like he makes
1181
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.239
it like you think that I'm just some do weep
1182
00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:01.639
from Harvard. I'm like, I mean, I don't think anybody that.
1183
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:04.119
I don't think anybody thought that. I feel like there
1184
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.320
were probably there's some baggage that maybe Aaron Sorkuld maybe
1185
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:09.639
had or it has that's written in the script where
1186
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:11.639
it's like, yeah, I don't think like maybe people thought
1187
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:13.679
that way back then, but I think, like, you know,
1188
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.480
I think you're pretty like you're of an elite group
1189
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.920
and you're not like like the little guy is still
1190
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:25.400
Tom Cruise, and he's still like physically very charismatic, very
1191
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:28.800
like you know, bring in your face, very cocky, very
1192
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.199
sure of himself. And it's so it's like I like,
1193
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:34.840
because he's up, I like him up against an even
1194
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:39.119
bigger obstacle. But if you know, I could see that
1195
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.920
same character being a bully to other people.
1196
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:46.559
And he is kind of like not maliciously so not
1197
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:48.760
like pushing people around, but he's like, I don't care
1198
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.159
what you think of me, like like bullies people, And
1199
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.679
when he one of I think one of the greatest
1200
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:56.280
things I've ever heard in a phrase I want to
1201
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:59.280
try to fit into my everyday vernacular.
1202
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:01.639
Is galactically stupid?
1203
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:08.039
Should we follow the advice of the galactically stupid?
1204
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:09.239
Yeah? Stupid?
1205
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.199
Great great line, but like, you know, we see him
1206
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.039
at that breaking point where he is like all like
1207
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.320
all filters are off, all bets are off, everything is lost,
1208
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:25.079
and he loses it completely. So I yeah, even those
1209
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:27.920
little things they don't bug me.
1210
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:29.079
And I you.
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Have the other characters as a good counterpoint, like him
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and Pollock and and Demian Moore are good counterpoints.
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To him, yes, And but the purity of.
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The purity of the script and the performances I think
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allows for that, like you're with it, like it's it's
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okay to have these kind of more on the nose
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moments of like here's what we meant by this. It
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doesn't ruin or pull the film down. And I also
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do see I love you know, thinking of this as
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a transition piece in Tom Cruise's career of like the
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menstruation of him going from like the cool hot it
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guy to like I'm going to stand toe to toe
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with Jack Nicholson in a courtroom while we're both acting
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our hearts out, and I deserve to be here, and
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it feels like, in a way it's kind of a
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metaphor for his journey as an actor, and he got
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he's I think.
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He got a lot better too, from a couple of
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years before. I think what he was in The Outsiders
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in a small role and he was in the Legendary.
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Had no lines.
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Well, I think of him been top Gun, where I
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think he literally is that kind of obnoxious, uh like
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hot Shot, which is the character, but also like he
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plays it in a way that feels obnoxious and annoying
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to me, and in this like he still plays it,
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but like there's a journey that the character goes on,
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and also like the maturity of the performance.
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Is there, like he's he's there.
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He's great, And I love it.
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I love Tom, I love you, I love him.
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He is modern day, He's our modern day Tom Grez McQueen.
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But you know he's like an old school movie one
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of the last movie stars still around of that caliber.
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Yes, any other great big moments for you or any
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moments that didn't.
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Really I just want Tom Cruise drunken his apartment. He
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really wanted that Oscar nom Yes, I know he should
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have got to really trying hard to get that, and
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he just hoked something. I thought it was interesting, Like
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the Marines. Everybody kept saying the code, the code literally,
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and I feel like whether or not they say that
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01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:27.159
in real life that much, it's like just an easy
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way for Aaron Sorkin to just drill into this idea.
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That's the sense that like, all right.
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This is the theme of the movie, and we're gonna
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have everybody repeat it.
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But I wasn't sure if it felt real.
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We have to believe because it's like I could see,
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you know, the general audience member is like, yeah, why
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did they follow that order? Like it's like it's the code,
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It's the Marine's got Like it's like you have to
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make sure the audience understands they live and die by this,
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and it the stakes in So the code is everything.
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So it's like effective, it's very clear even when the
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even when things didn't feel authentic in the script necessarily,
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it's like he's doing it to really drive a plane
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home for the audience. There is an intentionality to it
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that made sense. So that was great. And one moment
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that was like a good character moment that I thought
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really paid off in a small way. It was like,
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when you first meet Demi Moore, she's repeating to herself
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how she's gonna ask to be assigned to the case.
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01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:24.800
She's walking across the courtyard to her meeting with her
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superior officer, and.
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She says it wrong.
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So she realized somebody who stumbles over her words like
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she she should be further along and where she wants
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to be in her career, but she can't get there.
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And she does it a couple other times in the movie,
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so it's all right, great, So that's like a you know,
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and she's nervous. Is just like I just feel like
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01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:47.480
he did that with you know, throughout throughout the script,
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01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:49.679
he had these great little moments that were like, all right,
1285
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:52.719
that's a simple thing, but it drives home like, oh,
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01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:53.840
we know who these people are.
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01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:56.239
Makes it easier for us to like root for.
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01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:57.800
Them or know where they stand, or know what their
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01:02:57.840 --> 01:02:59.639
relationship with is with everybody else.
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01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:01.280
So yeah, that's great. He knew what he was doing,
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what he was doing, everybody knew what they were doing.
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01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.159
The Top of the Game. For everybody in the Top
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01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:05.360
of the.
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01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:11.960
Game, top Gun, this is right, it is yes, Maverick.
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01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.480
Maverick, look at him, look at him, go look at him?
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01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:16.719
Is there anything you can't do?
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01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:21.000
No answer and anything else? And like so we're saying,
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01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:23.199
lived up, lived up to classic status.
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I would live to repeat this movie every day.
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01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:27.960
Great. I love that.
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01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:32.079
I would watch this movie into oblivion. I like that.
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01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.800
It was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What what are how many?
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How many how many code red mountain code?
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01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.519
How many mountain do co reds? Do you give a
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01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:41.119
few good men?
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01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:43.840
I would say four out of five or maybe four
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and a half.
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01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.320
I don't know, it depends on what do that I'm
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01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:47.800
going to give.
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I think before my last viewing it was four and
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a half, and now I'm going to bump it up
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to a five.
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All five.
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01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:54.599
I know.
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01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:55.119
I love it.
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01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:57.199
I just love it. I love it so much that
1317
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.679
ending always gets me. I like it a lot.
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01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.280
Like it. That's great, and it's simple.
1319
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:04.480
It doesn't like it's not nothing more than it is.
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01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:06.800
It's two hours and twenty minutes, but it feels like
1321
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:07.400
it's like an hour.
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01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:08.079
It goes by like that.
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01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.960
Yeah, it's so good, so engaging, so fun. Love it,
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01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.880
Love it great, Richie, this is awesome. Tell tell everyone,
1325
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.400
tell everyone at home, what you do, where you are?
1326
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:18.840
Where they can see you.
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01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.800
Well, I am, you know, sometimes I do comedy and
1328
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.719
when I get back on that old rigamar roll, I'll
1329
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:31.159
let you know. You can find me on Letterboxed at
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01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.119
I think it's our pep now, I think.
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01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:34.639
It's our pep.
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01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.800
I mean it's our pepie step a little pep in
1333
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:41.440
my step where I review movies and you know I
1334
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.239
write as well, so maybe I'll be posting more about
1335
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:48.159
that on my Twitter, which I think is also our pepio,
1336
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:51.239
So feel to look for me there or you mind.
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01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:53.800
Yeah, and I, of course my name is different in
1338
01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:57.079
every place. I'm at Ya Shondor Man on Twitter because
1339
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.199
there is apparently another shond door Man there.
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01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:01.599
I'm Shondor Romano five. On letterbox Stand.
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01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.559
I'm just Shondor Man play an old Shon door man
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on Instagram. But this has been great, Ritchie, thank you
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01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:10.199
for hanging out talking.
1344
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:10.599
Movies with me.
1345
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:14.639
As always, Thank you everyone, Thank you everyone for listening,
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and we will see you at the movie