CERTAIN THINGS IN COMMON: New Congressional Report on Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, and Paolo Zampolli. Plus special guest Victoria Drake.

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Just days away from the midterms where it looks
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like there's going to be a huge shakeup in the
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power structure of the U.S. Congress. And the
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Democrats just dropped a new report about Donald
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Trump's and Jeffrey Epstein's shared victims.
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This is L3G4L Special Investigation with Ed Lyman
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in Los Angeles. This program is intended for
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mature audiences only. It contains sensitive
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subject matter and adult language. While your
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host is a licensed attorney, the information
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provided is for educational and entertainment
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purposes only and does not constitute legal advice,
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a legal opinion, or create an attorney-client
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relationship. On this episode, we've got a special
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guest coming up in a little bit, Victoria Drake,
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who alleges she was raped by Paolo Zampolli. And
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I'm going to be sharing with you my original
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analysis of the brand new report that just came
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out from staffers, Democratic staffers, at the House
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Judiciary Committee. If you go over the... At
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first sight, it doesn't seem like it reveals
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all that much, but once you dig into the details,
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I was pretty surprised by some of the new things
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I learned, and I'm going to share them with you.
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For example, remember that big novelty check
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that Donald Trump wrote to Jeffrey Epstein back
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in the day at Mar-a-Lago? A $22,500 check.
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There are several people standing behind it, including
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a girl whose face is redacted. That one's been
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bugging me for a long time. Who the heck is she?
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The report indirectly tells us who it is, and
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I've got it solved. I'll let you know. The report
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also talks about somebody named Kate and her
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relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell and Donald
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Trump. And Kate's just a pseudonym, by the way.
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The report indirectly, perhaps unintentionally,
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reveals, maybe intentionally, reveals that Kate
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is Anouska De Georgiou. If you're not familiar
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with who Anouska is, she's one of the more prominent
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survivors. She's an activist, and she's amazing,
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but you never hear her publicly talking about
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any type of interactions she had with Donald
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Trump. What the report reveals about her is pretty
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big, and you probably haven't heard this stuff
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about her yet. The report also reveals a victim
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that we've never heard of before: Miss Switzerland,
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former Miss Switzerland, who alleges that she
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was raped by Donald Trump when she was only 20
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years old during one of the pageants he was running.
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The report also talks about Todd Blanche. And
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remember when he went to go visit Ghislaine Maxwell
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in federal prison back in the summer of 2025?
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During that interview, Todd Blanche coaches Ghislaine
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Maxwell not to talk about a victim named Jane,
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who was only 14 years old when she was trafficked
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within the ring. Why was Todd Blanche trying
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to prevent Ghislaine Maxwell from talking about
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Jane? On this episode, we're going to cover all
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of that and more. Stay tuned. So this report
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was prepared by staffers, Democratic staffers, at
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the House Judiciary Committee of the U.S. Congress.
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The timing is wild, though. We're about a week
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away from one of the most significant midterm
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elections in the United States ever. If Democrats
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are successful in these elections, the entire
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power structure of the United States Congress,
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both the House and the Senate, will shift away
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from Republican control, the Republican majority,
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to a Democratic majority, which is huge given that
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all three branches are currently controlled
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by Republicans. Of course, Donald Trump heading
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up the executive branch, and of the nine U.S.
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Supreme Court justices, six of them were appointed
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by Republican presidents and the other three
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were appointed by Democratic presidents. In terms
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of Congress, the Senate, which has 100
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seats, 53 of those seats are currently held by
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Republicans, 45 held by Democrats, and two of
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them are independents. The House of Representatives
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currently has 218 Republicans to 214 Democrats,
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one independent, and there are two vacancies. Speculation
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websites like Kalshi are predicting a 90% chance
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that the Democrats will win the House. In the
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Senate, Democrats have about a 68% chance of
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carrying the day there as well, according to
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prediction markets. What are these prediction
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markets, like Polymarket and Kalshi, good
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for? I don't know. I feel like I lost a lot of
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money during the World Cup. I don't want to gamble
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on politics. Is it better to follow the prediction
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markets and these gambling websites or traditional
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polls? Probably both are equally bad. All I know
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is the candidates I usually vote for haven't
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been winning. So why would I bet on them?
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Why would I bet on them? Why would I bet on them?
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I'm going to lose all my money on some Polymarket
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or prediction app, and then gas prices are also
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going to skyrocket. Fucked either way. So with
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that context, the Democrats released this pretty
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damning, lengthy report about Donald Trump sharing
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certain sex trafficking victims with Jeffrey
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Epstein. I don't think it's going to convince
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MAGA to defect from the party at this point.
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Maybe it helps drive some more turnout for people
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who are already going to vote blue, just to reinforce:
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you've got to get out there and vote. Donald Trump
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is not a good person. But the thing is, we've
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known this. We've known this about Donald Trump
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since before 2015. In 2016, Katie Johnson was
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filing her federal lawsuit here in Los Angeles.
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And the liberal media ignored most of this. You couldn't
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get feminists like Rachel Maddow on MSNBC to
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really cover anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
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I mean, to think that these massive political
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commentators on Fox or MSNBC, NBC, all the major
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networks just didn't know a damn thing about
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Jeffrey Epstein all the way up until about 2018.
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Come on. Are some people still in the dark about
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all of this? I don't get it. Maybe Democrats
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are targeting the swing voters, you know, the
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ones we used to call soccer moms, suburban women,
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different independents, maybe they'll want to
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go through the report and be motivated by it
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as to why they should not vote for Donald Trump
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or any other Republicans for that matter. I mean,
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it is a big deal that Republicans in the Congress
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continue to conceal all this stuff for Donald
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Trump. Virtually no Republicans in Congress have
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been standing up against Donald Trump on these
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issues relating to Epstein, except for Marjorie
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Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie and Lauren Boebert
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and Nancy Mace. And we all know what happened
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to Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie,
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whether it's over the Epstein files or Israel,
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or maybe those two subjects pretty much overlap,
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don't they? So, the Democrats' report is titled
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"We Have Certain Things in Common, Jeffrey." And
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it's got an image of Donald Trump and Jeffrey
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Epstein together with the background removed and
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a fuchsia color. They have red lines over
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their eyes, so you can't see them. And
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then there are a lot of redaction marks on the
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cover. It's pretty trendy, kind of a glitch,
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vaporwave feel. I mean, the front page kind of
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looks like a meme. And whether that cuts down
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on the credibility or not, I don't know. In some
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of the beholder's eyes out there, maybe it does.
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Democrats have been painfully trolling Donald
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Trump back, with a lot of misfires. But Obama got
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Donald Trump pretty good this week. He's got
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the White House looking like Saddam Hussein opened
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a Cheesecake factory. There's just gold everywhere.
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And Donald Trump, obviously, he didn't like that.
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Here's what Trump had to say in a pretty weak
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attempt at a comeback: "The White House is a symbol
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of America. For you to say it's a Cheesecake
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factory, that just shows why you were a lousy
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president." And he's been glitching out a lot
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too, right? What's going on with him? And somebody
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on one of the live shows this past week was telling
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me Trump's been wearing an exoskeleton suit.
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I didn't know that. And I started looking it
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up and I'm like, this is legit. This is real.
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I don't know how I missed that story. That's
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been going around for quite some time now. You
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know, he's got those, you know what I'm talking
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about, right? Those robotic devices that strap
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around your waist and then go down to your legs and
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help you actually walk. Kind of like an Iron
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Man suit. And I started looking into that deeper
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and it makes sense. I mean, if you look at the
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shape of Donald Trump's back end, I always thought
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it was just like a strange diaper, maybe a chemo
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pump or something there underneath his suit.
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But if you look up other people that wear exoskeleton
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suits, it matches. It's spot on. I mean,
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you can't deny it. And what's the point of having
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an exoskeleton suit in the first place? I guess
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they help stroke victims a lot, and people with
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other things such as MS. But in Donald Trump's
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case, I think we're leaning towards the stroke
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category, especially with his speech patterns.
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I'd say 90% of the reason I took the governor.
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Impersonalization, the schemes that they use
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for impersonalization. He might not be able to
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read the Bible as much. Not only did he. State
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that. God is transgender. This is what he said.
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Things are definitely falling apart for Camp
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MAGA. So I don't know if the Democrats' report
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is even going to matter. I think MAGA's
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already imploded, in my opinion. MAGA's already
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had a lot of people defect. So what's in this
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report? Let's talk about it. The report's broken
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into three sections, and then it provides
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conclusions or findings on what should be done. The
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first section provides a backdrop of sexual exploitation
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in what Democrats call Gotham City. In fact,
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the Gotham City of Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein,
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and Paolo Zampolli. If you're new to the Epstein
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files and don't have a whole lot of background
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information about these characters and how they
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interact with different modeling agencies across
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the world, then I highly recommend going over
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that section just to bring yourself up to speed
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a little bit. It's a good primer. Then the next
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section of the report goes over the accounts
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of 11 different women who Democrats say link
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Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. And surely
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that's not an exhaustive number. I don't think
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that's what they're intending at all. Then the
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third section of the report deals with how Donald
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Trump and his Department of Justice, Pam Bondi,
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Todd Blanche, and others have covered everything
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up that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein had
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been doing together. You got to remember, it
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was November 2025 when Congress unanimously,
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both parties, voted for the Epstein Files Transparency
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Act. And I'm telling you, I did an article a
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while ago explaining how, in my estimates, I've
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quantified this, there was at least... there's
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at least more than 400 terabytes of files relating
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to Jeffrey Epstein in the possession of the FBI
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in 2019. And to date, the U.S. Department of
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Justice has released about 0.075% of that amount
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of files, roughly 300 gigabytes. 300 gigabytes
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is less than 1% of 400 terabytes. But who's
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counting? Not Todd Blanche. I mean, definitely
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not. And then you've got Congress, you've got
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Democrats out there fighting over these redactions
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on less than 1% of the files, basically. Where are
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the rest of the files? Come on, guys. That's
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what I want to know. It seems that Democratic
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officials and others are hyper-focused on,
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here we've got some files, and of those that are
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redacted, whose names have been redacted? I want
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to know the bigger fruit on the tree, such as
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who was blackmailing, who specifically, who are
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Jeffrey Epstein's enablers. Where's all the surveillance
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footage? What happened to all the surveillance
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equipment on the island, for example? Why did
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the FBI arrest Jeffrey Epstein and then wait
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a month and a half to raid the island or never
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go to Avenue Foch or the Zorro Ranch? Who made
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those decisions? But the Democrats are focused
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on energizing certain demographics of certain
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women so that they can carry these swing states.
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And that's fine; that's strategic. But I still
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think it's important that we remember: we really
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need to get to the bottom of who is being blackmailed
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and what type of leverage was gained. What did
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Jeffrey Epstein and his crew get
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out of it? How was foreign policy shaped? What
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proxy wars were started because of honeypots?
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What kind of technology or computer networks
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were compromised because of Jeffrey Epstein ensnaring
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people. For example, Microsoft, how secure are
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their servers? I didn't hear anybody in Congress
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asking Bill Gates about stuff like that. Again,
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the focus was on Bill Gates obtaining STI medication
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through Jeffrey Epstein. I think we should more
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immediately be looking at which intelligence
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agencies and law enforcement officials may have
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been compromised? Or people like Bill Gates,
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how was he compromised? Any national security
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concerns at all? Perhaps other nations that we
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should be concerned about? Is there any compromise
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that's still ongoing? I mean, shouldn't we be
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looking a lot at the lawyers and potentially
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judges, different politicians, foreign officials
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and intelligence officers that are still out
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there who have probably been compromised by
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Epstein and his enterprise, which still seems
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to remain intact in many ways? But here we have
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a report on sex crimes that occurred a couple
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decades ago. And I'm not trying to minimize that.
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I'm not trying to take away anything from the
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very serious nature of this caliber of sex crime.
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So in terms of the report, if you just look it
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over briefly and you already know a lot
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about Epstein and Donald Trump, you're probably
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not going to find anything particularly groundbreaking
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here. But by reading the footnotes and going
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into some of the smaller details, I was able
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to extrapolate a lot of interesting things that
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I had never known before. But it takes a little
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bit of work. It takes some deductive reasoning
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to get there. But I'm going to explain all that
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to you. Don't worry about it. But first, I've
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got a very special guest, dear friend of the
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show, Victoria Drake. She's in the report and
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she's here to talk about it. The report says
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that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein worked
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with other predators as well, including John
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Casablancas and Paolo Zampolli. Paolo Zampolli
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obviously takes the credit for bringing Melania
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Trump to the United States as a model. He's originally
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from Italy, from a very, very wealthy family.
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Eventually, he made his way into working for
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Metropolitan Models. Now, that was the agency
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that had discovered Claudia Schiffer long before
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he ever worked there or had anything to do with
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them. But once he worked there, he did make his
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way up through the ranks and eventually became
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a co-owner. Apparently, while he was working
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in Ibiza at some point, setting up a show, that's
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when he met John Casablancas, who recognized,
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hey, this guy Paolo's got some talent. Or at least
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that's what Paolo Zampolli wants us to believe
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on his Wikipedia page. John Casablancas suggested
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that Paolo Zampolli should move to the United
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States, New York. Real romantic history there.
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Paolo comes to America and continues working
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for the modeling agency, but eventually goes
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on to create his own agency named ID Model Management.
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He discovers Melania, brings her from overseas.
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I'll talk a little bit more about that time period
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in a little bit. Zampolli went on to work for
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the Trump Organization doing some type of real
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estate. Then when Trump was elected the first
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time, that first term, Trump appointed Zampolli
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to the Board of Trustees for the John F. Kennedy
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Center. During the Biden presidency, Biden left
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him on the board. More recently, when Trump was
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reelected, he appointed Zampolli as the United
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States Special Representative for Global Partnerships.
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Whatever that means, I'm still trying to figure
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that out. Right now, we've got a very special
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guest, friend of the show, Victoria Drake.
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She spent a lot of time at Mar-a-Lago. She
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was in the whole orbit of people like Donald
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Trump, Melania, Paolo Zampolli. She just filed
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a federal lawsuit in September 2026. Drake alleges
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Paolo Zampolli raped her in October of 2023. What's
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relevant here is the Judiciary Committee, the
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Democratic staff report, mentions her, not by name,
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but they mention her allegations about Paolo
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Zampolli. The report explains that Zampolli was
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recently fired from the Trump administration
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and that, quote, he was also recently credibly
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accused of sexual assault by a young Republican
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model who claims Zampolli drugged and raped her
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in 2023. Her complaint explains that from, quote,
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his earlier career in the modeling industry to
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his current role as a U.S. special envoy, Zampolli
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has leveraged his access to young models to cultivate
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and maintain relationships within high-profile
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networks. The report further explains that Victoria
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Drake's complaint notes that Zampolli is, quote,
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a fixture within President Trump's social and
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political circle. This is L3G4L.com. I'm Ed
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Lyman, and we've got Victoria Drake. Victoria, thanks
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for being here. Question for you first. Did anybody
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in Congress, any Democrats, reach out to you before
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they released this report? Did they even ask
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you about what happened? No, it was complete
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news to me seeing my name there. Obviously, they
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just said I was the young Republican model or
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whatever, but seeing the report and the complaint,
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it was... it was pretty crazy to me. I read the
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report, obviously, because I knew Amanda was
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in it and I knew Beatrice was in it. But seeing
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myself in there was complete news to me. It actually
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gives me chills just thinking about it. I didn't
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even know I was going to be in Time magazine.
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I didn't know I was going to be in the New York
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Times. I didn't know any of this. Nobody tells
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me anything these days. They just, like, publish,
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publish, publish, and it's crazy. They didn't even
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bother to reach out to you, to talk to you,
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to see if this is something you're okay with.
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It's so obvious that they're exploiting this
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for the midterms to try to gain more seats in
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Congress, to get more voters. Victoria, what
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are your overall thoughts about the report? I
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think that the report was pretty poorly written,
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unfortunately. It seems very inconsistent. I
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mean, I do appreciate them getting the report
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out there. I think it's very important, but I
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think that they could have done a much better
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job. I agree with you. The report is pretty basic,
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and it's a lot of context that we already know.
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Seems like there's no smoking gun. I wish that
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they included more details. Yeah, that's right.
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The only thing new about it is the account
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of Beatrice Keul, who alleges Donald Trump
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raped her in the '90s during one of his pageants.
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Specifically, and this is not just for selfish
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reasons, I wish they would have included more
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details regarding Paolo and his abuse. Because
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there are 10-plus girls who have come forward
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regarding Paolo. And they basically just mention
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me. They don't even mention my name. They say
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the young Republican model. They don't even want
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to mention your name, but they want to mention
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your political party affiliation or at least
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brand you as a Republican, as if maybe that gives
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their story some more credibility to potential
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readers who might be Republican. I don't know
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what the point is. You mentioned you had spoken
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with Amanda Ungaro, Paolo Zampolli's ex-girlfriend.
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They have a child together. While serving in
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the Trump administration, he had her detained
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by ICE, and eventually she had to leave the
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country. But with regard to Amanda, they don't
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even give, like, the full story either. And there's
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just so much more that they could have included
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and there really isn't much that directly implicates
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Donald Trump. Yeah, and of the new stuff, they
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only did a short summation of Beatrice Keul's
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story. She alleges she was raped by Donald Trump
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at the Plaza Hotel back in the '90s during one
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of his beauty pageants. I talked to Beatrice
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quite a bit, and there are things that she can
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say and things that she can't say, obviously.
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But at the end of the day, I really wish that
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they would have just gone scorched earth. It
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almost seems lighthearted. Like, we're talking
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about rapists and criminals and pedophiles in
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the government. It could have been done a lot
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better. And that's just my opinion. Well, thank
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you so much, Victoria, for being here. I know
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you're pressed for time. Always appreciate talking
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to you. She's so brave and totally inspiring.
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Imagine being a plaintiff against the most powerful
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and corrupt administration in U.S. history.
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The good news is they fired Paolo Zampolli right
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after she filed her lawsuit. If anything good comes
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out of this report, it's that you do have
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Democratic officials in our Congress who have found
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Victoria Drake's allegations against Paolo Zampolli
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to be credible. You're listening to L3G4L with
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Ed Lyman. So coming back now, I want to talk
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to you about the things in this new report that
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I think are new, at least things that you probably
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don't already know about. This is what I found,
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and there's probably so much more that you could
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find in this report. I haven't looked in the
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universe yet to see what other people have pulled
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out of this report. But I'm sure there's so much
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more than just what I found. But these are the
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interesting things that I've found so far. So
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who's the girl that Donald Trump paid Jeffrey
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Epstein $22,500 for with that big-ass check?
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It looks like a Publishers Clearing House contest
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winner. Jeffrey Epstein, two guys and a girl
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holding up this big check, probably about four
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feet wide, huge check at Mar-a-Lago. And it's
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way back when. We get this photo from Jeffrey
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Epstein's 50th birthday book. You know, the book
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that Ghislaine Maxwell went around before he
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turned 50, obviously, and had a bunch of very
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prominent people, from Bill Clinton
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to Alan Dershowitz, Leon Black, and then other
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people that are closer to Jeffrey Epstein, such
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as Selena Dubin or his childhood friends. So
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Ghislaine Maxwell rounded up all these people
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and told them to please send her a letter wishing
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Jeffrey Epstein a happy 50th birthday. Be funny,
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send pictures, I'll put them all together and
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compile them into this large coffee table style
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book that we can give to him for his 50th
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birthday. So one of Epstein's friends, Joel Pashcow,
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he's a big real estate guy and a member of Mar-a-Lago.
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So, he sends a letter for the birthday
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book. And it includes a photo. The photo is of
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Jeffrey Epstein, Joel Pashcow, I can't tell who
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the third guy is, and a younger woman with blonde
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hair. But her face is redacted. So we don't get
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to see who she is. And they're holding up a pretty
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large check, it's about four feet wide. The
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check is payable to the order of Jeffrey Epstein
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for $22,500, signed Donald Trump. Now, under
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this photo on the letter, Joel Pashcow handwrites
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to Jeffrey Epstein, "Jeffrey showing early talents
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with money and women, sells fully depreciated,"
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then it's redacted. So, that's presumably
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the redacted girl's name, implying that Jeffrey
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Epstein had just sold somebody to Donald
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Trump for $22,500. Joel Pashcow further writes
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that Jeffrey Epstein had shown early "people
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skills," and, "Even though I handled the deal,
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I didn't get any of the money or the girl." The
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important part is the photo. When this photo
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became public, I, and I'm sure so many other
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people, searched meticulously to try to find
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more details about it, to try to figure out who
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exactly is this girl? Did Jeffrey Epstein really
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get paid $22,500 for her? People speculate that
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it was Melania. Perhaps it was Jeffrey Epstein
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getting paid for Melania? And because this girl's
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face is redacted, you only really see the length
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of her shoulder down to her hand wrapped around the
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side of the check. She's wearing a black dress,
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but you don't see anything else, any other features.
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It appears that she's possibly wearing a hat
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and she has blonde hair. So, it could have been Melania
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for all we know. But, you know, it's not abnormal
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when you're doing this kind of digging that you're
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looking very closely, zooming in close on the
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hands. I was looking for any type of identifying
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features such as a birthmark, but the resolution
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of the photo is just not that great, so it's hard
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to tell. Is that Melania's hand, for example?
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Compare another photo of Melania's hands with
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this one. And anything is possible, right? It's
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difficult to date the photo because the check,
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this big novelty check, doesn't have a line for
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the date. Instinctively, the photo doesn't appear
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to have been taken with a digital camera. It
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seems to be shot with Kodachrome or Fuji, whatever.
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But you could tell it does feel like that is
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an old film camera. And I was gauging around
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the '90s, partly because we could see Jeffrey
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Epstein's face, but the style of sunglasses,
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his hair, his jacket, and the other people holding
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up the check, what Joel is wearing, and some
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couple in the background. They're sitting at
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a table, a banquet table, out on the grass. It's
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a lawn area of Mar-a-Lago with palm trees in
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the background. So when I was doing a lot of
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research on this photo, because everybody wants
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to know whether that was Melania or somebody
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else, who is it? Was it a sex trafficking victim?
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This is important, or at least it seems to be. And
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the photo seems to be around the same time, possibly
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the late '90s, when Donald Trump and Melania say
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they met at the infamous Kit Kat Club during
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Fall Fashion Week in 1998, New York City. And
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of course, you probably already know that a lot
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of people claim or at least speculate that Jeffrey
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Epstein first dated Melania and then Epstein
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introduced Melania to Donald Trump at a certain
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point. But you got to be really careful treading
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down that direction because Melania has sued
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people for defamation over that very topic. And
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I've never seen any direct evidence that Donald
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Trump and Melania knew each other prior to the
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fall of 1998 at the Kit Kat Club. Nobody's been
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able to find that. Everybody's digging for that,
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pushing really hard because they want to unsettle
00:28:45.180 --> 00:28:48.319
that story. They say a lot of people don't believe
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that's where they first met. So in my investigatory
00:28:51.460 --> 00:28:55.660
quest for proof or truth, like many others, we
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focused a lot on this photo of the check. So
00:28:58.859 --> 00:29:02.059
during that research, when more Epstein files
00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:05.019
came out, there was another photo of this check.
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.839
And it's the same check, but this time it's just
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.619
Jeffrey Epstein and seems to be the same girl
00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:14.400
holding it up for the camera, potentially at
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:17.200
Mar-a-Lago as well. It's kind of hard to tell
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.779
based on the background, but possibly Mar-a-Lago
00:29:19.779 --> 00:29:21.380
in the background. There's some palm trees.
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.940
In this photo, Jeffrey Epstein's wearing a different
00:29:23.940 --> 00:29:26.819
shirt. He's wearing a sweater that says USA on
00:29:26.819 --> 00:29:29.369
it. It kind of looks like he's wearing a gold
00:29:29.369 --> 00:29:32.609
chain as well or something around his neck. It's
00:29:32.609 --> 00:29:36.289
hard to tell what that is. Maybe it's one of
00:29:36.289 --> 00:29:39.569
those neoprene type of Croakies cords that holds
00:29:39.569 --> 00:29:43.130
your sunglasses. But the photo resolution, it's
00:29:43.130 --> 00:29:46.000
pretty difficult to discern that type of detail
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.079
because of the contrast in the photo. And it's
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.940
a black and white copy. Whoever copied the image,
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.400
FBI, they didn't do a bang-up job. It's just
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.339
a black and white image of it. It's another criticism
00:29:57.339 --> 00:29:59.619
I have for a lot of the photos you see that the
00:29:59.619 --> 00:30:03.079
FBI took of Jeffrey Epstein's mansion in New
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York or Little St. James. You'd think that the
00:30:05.980 --> 00:30:09.440
agents that do that type of work would have some
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.380
better cameras, for one, but also some training
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.420
on how to compose a shot. So this seems to have
00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.059
been an FBI agent or some type of law enforcement
00:30:18.059 --> 00:30:21.579
officer taking a photo of this photo, which is
00:30:21.579 --> 00:30:25.039
framed. And the frame says the phrase "once in
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.779
a blue moon," and it's repeated around the border
00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:30.460
of the frame about seven times. But I looked
00:30:30.460 --> 00:30:32.579
at the next piece of evidence in the sequence
00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:35.740
of this, and it's the back of the frame. And
00:30:35.740 --> 00:30:38.779
you can see the photo. You can see somebody took
00:30:38.779 --> 00:30:40.980
a pencil to the back of the photo and wrote.
00:30:42.420 --> 00:30:45.339
So therefore, I date this whole check, this whole
00:30:45.339 --> 00:30:49.160
situation as having occurred in 1997. So whenever
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.519
it was, approximately a year before Donald Trump
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.480
and Melania say they met. But in the Democrats'
00:30:55.779 --> 00:30:57.839
Judiciary report, you're not going to believe
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.980
who they say it is in the photo. They refer to
00:31:00.980 --> 00:31:03.839
her as Jane Doe No. 5, by the way. But
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.000
I'm going to read to you from the report and
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:09.720
see if you can guess now who it is. It says,
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.220
Jane Doe 5, 20 years old. Public reports indicate
00:31:13.220 --> 00:31:19.269
that in 1995 and 1997, Jane Doe 5, a Scandinavian
00:31:19.269 --> 00:31:22.390
college student at NYU, was photographed with
00:31:22.390 --> 00:31:25.450
Jeffrey Epstein at Mar-a-Lago, in one picture
00:31:25.450 --> 00:31:28.470
kissing Jeffrey Epstein. The Epstein flight logs
00:31:28.470 --> 00:31:32.430
show Jane Doe 5 and Epstein traveled on Epstein's
00:31:32.430 --> 00:31:35.549
jet more than a dozen times during this period.
00:31:35.730 --> 00:31:39.049
A number of those flights list only her and Epstein
00:31:39.049 --> 00:31:42.509
as passengers. Following this relationship, Jane
00:31:42.509 --> 00:31:44.910
Doe Five seemingly entered into a relationship
00:31:44.910 --> 00:31:49.380
with Donald Trump. In 1998, she is pictured in
00:31:49.380 --> 00:31:52.099
photos with Donald Trump and his family at Mar-a-Lago
00:31:52.099 --> 00:31:54.720
and appears to have rented an apartment
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.380
in a Trump property. It was reported that Donald
00:31:58.380 --> 00:32:02.700
Trump was, quote, dating Jane Doe 5 when he
00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:07.009
met Melania Knauss,, then a model who was working
00:32:07.009 --> 00:32:10.319
for Paolo Zampolli. While there's no evidence
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.920
available that Jane Doe 5 ever experienced misconduct
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.990
at either Epstein or Trump's hands, her relationship
00:32:17.990 --> 00:32:22.220
with both men is significant. Epstein apparently
00:32:22.220 --> 00:32:26.140
dated her while she was still at NYU, a school
00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:29.900
attended by many of Epstein's survivors, and
00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:33.279
Donald Trump dated her immediately thereafter.
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.900
So, do you know who that is yet? The report goes
00:32:37.900 --> 00:32:41.559
on to state that the more sinister and telling detail
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.240
is that Jane Doe 5 is the woman identified in
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.420
Epstein's birthday book as the one that he sold
00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:52.380
to Donald Trump. One page of the birthday book
00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:55.099
depicts Epstein holding a check with the caption,
00:32:55.299 --> 00:32:58.880
"Jeffrey showing early talents with money plus
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:03.049
women, sells fully depreciated" — and then they
00:33:03.049 --> 00:33:07.769
put brackets, woman's redacted name — "to Donald
00:33:07.769 --> 00:33:12.140
Trump for $22,500." Jane Doe 5's real name
00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:15.039
lies under the redactions. People familiar with
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.519
Donald Trump's relationship stated that she became
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.640
a point of tension. People familiar with Donald
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.400
Trump's relationship stated that she, quote,
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.720
became a point of tension in Epstein and Trump's
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.000
friendship, end quote. And Epstein reportedly
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.440
complained, quote, that he believed the women
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.420
enjoyed spending time with him over Trump, and
00:33:36.420 --> 00:33:38.579
that he was bitter when she ended up choosing
00:33:38.579 --> 00:33:42.579
to go out with Trump. It's unclear why the check
00:33:42.579 --> 00:33:46.259
was for $22,500. It's possible that the number
00:33:46.259 --> 00:33:49.400
is a reference to Jane Doe 5's age when her relationship
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:51.859
with Epstein ended and her relationship with
00:33:51.859 --> 00:33:55.299
Donald Trump began. The report also references
00:33:55.299 --> 00:33:59.859
an email that Jeffrey Epstein sent in 2015 to
00:33:59.859 --> 00:34:03.460
a New York Times reporter describing that Jane
00:34:03.460 --> 00:34:07.099
Doe 5 was his 20-year-old girlfriend in 1993
00:34:07.099 --> 00:34:10.599
and that after two years, he gave her to Donald.
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.500
And Epstein also gave the reporter her name to
00:34:14.500 --> 00:34:17.239
pass on to another journalist so that the journalist
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.480
could discuss the shared relationship between
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:23.139
Epstein and Donald Trump with Jane Doe 5. Well,
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.440
if you still haven't figured it out yet, let's
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.480
just go back over some of those details real
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.179
quick just to clue you in. Jane Doe 5 is Scandinavian.
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.619
She went to NYU and she dated Jeffrey Epstein
00:34:36.619 --> 00:34:39.460
for a couple of years, then started dating Donald
00:34:39.460 --> 00:34:43.300
Trump, and she was with Donald Trump when Donald
00:34:43.300 --> 00:34:46.360
Trump met Melania. Does that ring a bell, anyone?
00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:52.099
That would be Celina Midelfart. Celina Midelfart
00:34:52.099 --> 00:34:58.000
is a striking blonde Norwegian, and she came
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.159
over to the United States when she was younger.
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.340
She's from a wealthy family. They own a large
00:35:05.340 --> 00:35:09.699
cosmetics company. Describing her as an heiress
00:35:09.699 --> 00:35:14.800
is an inappropriate title for her. So as legend
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.420
has it, Celina Midelfart dates Jeffrey Epstein
00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:22.360
for a while, then starts going out with Donald
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:26.969
Trump. And then in 1998, during Fall Fashion
00:35:26.969 --> 00:35:30.389
Week, Donald Trump and Celina Midelfart go to
00:35:30.389 --> 00:35:33.730
the Kit Kat Club together, and when they walk
00:35:33.730 --> 00:35:38.530
upstairs to the VIP table section, Celina Midelfart
00:35:38.530 --> 00:35:41.349
has to go to the bathroom, and Donald Trump moves
00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:45.230
in on Melania at that point. And the rest is
00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:48.530
history, if you believe that story. But that's
00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:51.250
what Donald Trump and Melania say, and there's
00:35:51.250 --> 00:35:54.570
no reason to not believe Donald Trump. What's
00:35:54.570 --> 00:35:56.889
always interesting, of course, is that when Melania
00:35:56.889 --> 00:35:59.550
first moved to the United States, she was brought
00:35:59.550 --> 00:36:04.269
over here by Paolo Zampolli, working at Metropolitan
00:36:04.269 --> 00:36:08.170
Models. That was around 1996 when Melania comes
00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:10.610
to the United States and I guess she got an Einstein
00:36:10.610 --> 00:36:14.289
visa. Somebody was reminding me of that the other
00:36:14.289 --> 00:36:17.329
day, and it got me thinking, like, hey, Melania's,
00:36:17.349 --> 00:36:20.610
what is her... what does her application look like
00:36:20.610 --> 00:36:25.530
for the visa? Talk about Ilhan Omar. I don't
00:36:25.530 --> 00:36:27.130
know if you've been following that story, but
00:36:27.130 --> 00:36:31.969
the FBI raided the home of U.S. Congresswoman
00:36:32.329 --> 00:36:35.510
Ilhan Omar. She's a representative from Minnesota,
00:36:35.769 --> 00:36:39.690
but the FBI just raided her home. Apparently,
00:36:39.730 --> 00:36:42.190
Donald Trump and his Department of Justice are
00:36:42.190 --> 00:36:45.610
trying to figure out whether Omar may have been
00:36:45.610 --> 00:36:49.530
less than truthful on her application to become
00:36:49.530 --> 00:36:52.849
a citizen when she was 17 years old. I think
00:36:52.849 --> 00:36:55.130
it was her father that actually applied for the
00:36:55.130 --> 00:36:57.809
citizenship. But if you think about it, if Melania
00:36:57.809 --> 00:37:01.230
had an Einstein visa, what qualified her to
00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:05.469
have an Einstein visa? That's an EB-1 visa, and
00:37:05.469 --> 00:37:08.989
it's designated specifically for individuals
00:37:08.989 --> 00:37:12.369
who have an extraordinary ability in the sciences,
00:37:12.429 --> 00:37:16.449
arts, education, business, or for example, athletes.
00:37:16.750 --> 00:37:19.710
What were Melania's qualifications? Oh, I'd love
00:37:19.710 --> 00:37:21.489
to see that application. She was here in the
00:37:21.489 --> 00:37:24.630
country working since 1996 and then applied for
00:37:24.630 --> 00:37:28.449
that in the year 2000 for the Einstein visa.
00:37:29.329 --> 00:37:31.429
Apparently her application included all of her
00:37:31.429 --> 00:37:35.610
modeling work. So she's featured in runway shows
00:37:35.610 --> 00:37:38.530
in Europe, I don't know, or that weird French
00:37:38.530 --> 00:37:41.469
magazine that looks like softcore, well, whatever.
00:37:41.769 --> 00:37:45.110
And she was on a billboard on the side of a building
00:37:45.110 --> 00:37:48.690
in New York City for a cigarette brand. I'm seeing
00:37:48.690 --> 00:37:51.170
she's in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue. Was
00:37:51.170 --> 00:37:53.750
she? Okay, I see. It looks like kind of an amateur
00:37:53.750 --> 00:37:57.789
photo was submitted of her hugging a big blow-up
00:37:57.789 --> 00:38:00.599
whale on the side of the beach. Certainly
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.880
they wouldn't have given her the Einstein visa
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.219
if she submitted those photos from the GQ spread.
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.519
You know, the British GQ magazine that is not
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:12.139
the regular United States version. She's on board
00:38:12.139 --> 00:38:16.579
Donald Trump's 727. She's wearing that strange
00:38:16.579 --> 00:38:20.260
futuristic costume. Some of the shots, she's
00:38:20.260 --> 00:38:24.489
out on the wing holding a gun. And when she's
00:38:24.489 --> 00:38:27.429
in the fuselage, she's... hovering over a treasure
00:38:27.429 --> 00:38:30.570
chest of strange jewels. All the vanity of a
00:38:30.570 --> 00:38:36.010
late 1960s TWA poster meets Disney's Pirates
00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:38.889
of the Caribbean, but all shot in the '90s. I
00:38:38.889 --> 00:38:40.690
don't know how that works. So I wonder what kind
00:38:40.690 --> 00:38:42.769
of favors they had to pull or what they had to
00:38:42.769 --> 00:38:47.090
pay to get those shots into GQ UK. What was the
00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:51.309
circulation like? Okay, it says circulation was
00:38:51.309 --> 00:38:55.190
around 130,000 per month. Dismal. If you look
00:38:55.190 --> 00:38:58.050
at the photos in there of Melania, you can see
00:38:58.050 --> 00:39:00.570
why the magazine was not successful. The robots
00:39:00.570 --> 00:39:03.929
are here. I'm not surprised that the photo of
00:39:03.929 --> 00:39:07.170
the check at Mar-a-Lago, I'm not surprised
00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:11.480
that that's Celina Midelfart. I wouldn't have
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:13.559
guessed that. I wouldn't have been able to figure
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.559
that out. I don't think anybody cracked that
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.599
one. But why is it redacted, that photo? Celina
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.179
Midelfart isn't known to be a victim of Donald
00:39:23.179 --> 00:39:27.130
Trump or Epstein. Why is her name redacted
00:39:27.130 --> 00:39:30.909
from the letter underneath the photo that Joel
00:39:30.909 --> 00:39:34.369
Pashcow wrote to Jeffrey Epstein for his 50th
00:39:34.369 --> 00:39:37.769
birthday? This is L3G4L's special investigation
00:39:37.769 --> 00:39:41.030
with Ed Lyman in Los Angeles. Another part of
00:39:41.030 --> 00:39:43.730
the report that was pretty surprising to me is
00:39:43.730 --> 00:39:45.849
they've got this section about a girl named Kate,
00:39:45.949 --> 00:39:48.550
but that's just the pseudonym. Her real name,
00:39:48.730 --> 00:39:52.159
Anouska De Georgiou. Anouska is a pretty well-known
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.619
survivor of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell,
00:39:54.659 --> 00:39:57.079
and she's an activist. She's out there really
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.380
pushing for the Epstein files transparency. You'll
00:40:00.380 --> 00:40:03.639
see her at the press conferences. And she's very
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.940
kind. You can tell that. It comes across in her
00:40:05.940 --> 00:40:08.500
social media posts. She posts a lot of positive
00:40:08.500 --> 00:40:11.260
and inspirational messages. And it's strange
00:40:11.260 --> 00:40:14.440
that this report doesn't use her actual name
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.579
and why they're using the name Kate in the first
00:40:16.579 --> 00:40:20.460
place, because the report gives you some pretty
00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:23.840
good clues that it's actually Anouska, including
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.079
by citing to a news article about Kate. And if
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.139
you follow the footnote to the news article,
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.239
you read the news article for yourself, you'll
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:33.579
find the article is about Anouska. So I'm going
00:40:33.579 --> 00:40:36.619
to read from portions of the report about Kate,
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.800
but instead of using that pseudonym, I'm just
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.300
going to replace it with Anouska's name. And
00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:43.760
here's what it says. Anouska's story is particularly
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.599
suggestive of Trump's active involvement in Epstein's
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:50.730
sex trafficking ring. Her FBI witness interview,
00:40:50.929 --> 00:40:54.349
released in the Epstein files, details how Ghislaine
00:40:54.349 --> 00:40:57.530
Maxwell took her to a party in New York where
00:40:57.530 --> 00:41:01.889
Maxwell presented Anouska to Trump. Anouska,
00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:05.469
a young model, remarked that this was the same
00:41:05.469 --> 00:41:08.530
way Maxwell introduced her to Epstein. Another
00:41:08.530 --> 00:41:11.210
document in the file confirms that Maxwell set
00:41:11.210 --> 00:41:14.469
Anouska up on a date with Trump, and other sources
00:41:14.469 --> 00:41:18.510
show Maxwell, Trump, and Anouska then traveled
00:41:18.510 --> 00:41:21.409
together on Trump's private jet to Florida.
00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:24.469
Maxwell's role of introducing young women to
00:41:24.469 --> 00:41:27.610
Trump was so well known that a tabloid covered
00:41:27.610 --> 00:41:31.989
it in 1997, remarking how Trump was friends with
00:41:31.989 --> 00:41:34.630
Robert Maxwell's daughter, Ghislaine, who has
00:41:34.630 --> 00:41:37.250
introduced several of her attractive friends
00:41:37.250 --> 00:41:40.210
to the property developer. So that's the report
00:41:40.210 --> 00:41:44.170
referring to the news article from 1997. I looked
00:41:44.170 --> 00:41:46.590
at the news article and it talks about, it's
00:41:46.590 --> 00:41:49.599
like a publicity piece. It's talking about Ghislaine
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.480
Maxwell, Donald Trump, and this younger 20-year-old
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:56.980
model named Anouska De Georgiou. The article is
00:41:56.980 --> 00:42:01.219
titled "How Sweet, Trump's Brit of All Right."
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:05.599
It ran in the Sunday Mirror in 1997. I'm going
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.539
to go ahead and read it to you right now, but
00:42:07.539 --> 00:42:10.599
just for context, back in 1997, Donald Trump's
00:42:10.789 --> 00:42:13.090
coming out of that marriage with Marla Maples,
00:42:13.090 --> 00:42:15.429
and there's lots of speculation about whether
00:42:15.429 --> 00:42:18.610
he was cheating on her and with whom. And I'm
00:42:18.610 --> 00:42:22.150
not speculating that it was with Anouska. There's
00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:24.489
a lot of speculation out there that it was Melania
00:42:24.489 --> 00:42:27.949
that Donald Trump had met Melania much earlier
00:42:27.949 --> 00:42:31.489
than in 1998 at that Kit Kat Club, but of course
00:42:31.489 --> 00:42:34.869
that's all just speculation. There's no reliable
00:42:34.869 --> 00:42:37.190
or competent type of evidence out there that
00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:39.469
I'm aware of that would tend to prove it. So
00:42:39.469 --> 00:42:42.130
I'm going to read this article to you from the
00:42:42.130 --> 00:42:46.210
Sunday Mirror about Anouska De Georgiou. And it's
00:42:46.210 --> 00:42:50.269
written in 1997. It's titled, "How Sweet, Trump's
00:42:50.269 --> 00:42:52.889
Brit of All Right." Just weeks after ditching
00:42:52.889 --> 00:42:55.130
his second wife, America's best known billionaire,
00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:58.130
Donald Trump. It's crazy. Is he really a billionaire
00:42:58.130 --> 00:43:01.050
at that time? I don't know. America's best-known
00:43:01.050 --> 00:43:03.130
billionaire, Donald Trump, has fallen under the
00:43:03.130 --> 00:43:06.889
spell of a 20-year-old English girl. Trump,
00:43:06.929 --> 00:43:10.250
50, who has failed in his bid to secure the services
00:43:10.250 --> 00:43:13.789
of Princess Diana's butler, Paul Burrell, was in
00:43:13.789 --> 00:43:15.969
search of another British trophy when he met
00:43:15.969 --> 00:43:19.389
London model Anouska De Georgiou at a party in
00:43:19.389 --> 00:43:22.269
Manhattan. Several American millionaires already
00:43:22.269 --> 00:43:24.710
had their eyes on Anouska. But she was there
00:43:24.710 --> 00:43:27.010
with Robert Maxwell's daughter, Ghislaine, who
00:43:27.010 --> 00:43:29.130
has introduced several of her attractive friends
00:43:29.130 --> 00:43:31.690
to the property developer. And none of his would-be
00:43:31.690 --> 00:43:34.650
rivals owned a vast mansion in Florida like
00:43:34.650 --> 00:43:37.369
Donald does. Mar-a-Lago, where I have dined
00:43:37.369 --> 00:43:40.250
with him and his outgoing wife, Marla, is enough
00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:43.110
to make any young girl go weak at the knees.
00:43:43.309 --> 00:43:46.929
After their meeting, Trump flew Madam Maxwell —
00:43:47.170 --> 00:43:49.269
that's what we've got to start calling her, Madam
00:43:49.269 --> 00:43:52.130
Maxwell — and the model south to the Sunshine
00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:54.469
State, where all three enjoyed a happy weekend
00:43:54.469 --> 00:43:57.210
together. When they returned to New York, Anouska
00:43:57.210 --> 00:44:00.269
was installed in one of Donald's many apartments
00:44:00.269 --> 00:44:04.190
there. So a lot of that's news to me. I mean,
00:44:04.269 --> 00:44:07.849
it's possible other people have been well
00:44:07.849 --> 00:44:09.889
aware of this article for a long time, but it's
00:44:09.889 --> 00:44:14.269
new to me that Anouska was staying in one of
00:44:14.269 --> 00:44:16.670
Donald Trump's apartments in Manhattan. I didn't
00:44:16.670 --> 00:44:19.070
know that. She doesn't publicly speak about anything
00:44:19.070 --> 00:44:21.409
with Donald Trump, not to my knowledge. But the
00:44:21.409 --> 00:44:24.030
way this is written, in many ways, it sounds
00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:28.050
like a publicity piece. I speculate that it's
00:44:28.050 --> 00:44:32.170
an attempt to rebrand Ghislaine Maxwell. If you
00:44:32.170 --> 00:44:34.730
live anywhere outside of the UK and you're listening
00:44:34.730 --> 00:44:37.429
right now, you're probably not familiar with
00:44:37.429 --> 00:44:40.349
the fact that about six years before this article
00:44:40.349 --> 00:44:46.000
came out, Robert Maxwell owned the Mirror
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.500
Group, all the Mirror newspapers, huge holdings
00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:53.940
in newspapers, and he stole about nearly, nearly,
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.980
he stole nearly a billion dollars of pensions
00:44:57.980 --> 00:45:00.320
from all of the employees for all of these newspapers.
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.460
After Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell,
00:45:03.539 --> 00:45:06.260
died, there were criminal prosecutions of her
00:45:06.260 --> 00:45:09.260
brothers because it was alleged, and we definitely
00:45:09.260 --> 00:45:11.219
know for certain that the pensions were stolen,
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.989
but it was alleged that her older brothers
00:45:13.989 --> 00:45:17.210
were also involved in that theft. And although
00:45:17.210 --> 00:45:19.550
they were acquitted, she was always concerned
00:45:19.550 --> 00:45:22.010
around the time of the death and a few years
00:45:22.010 --> 00:45:24.889
afterwards of going to England because she was
00:45:24.889 --> 00:45:27.670
concerned about how much public animosity there
00:45:27.670 --> 00:45:30.329
was towards her family for what her father had
00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:33.010
done. And the money was missing. It's still missing.
00:45:33.250 --> 00:45:36.750
So I speculate that the money was laundered through
00:45:36.750 --> 00:45:39.010
Jeffrey Epstein, but I'll save that for a different
00:45:39.010 --> 00:45:42.780
episode. So this newspaper article... it's
00:45:42.780 --> 00:45:45.860
ironic that it's in the Sunday Mirror, given
00:45:45.860 --> 00:45:48.300
that Robert Maxwell stole a billion dollars in
00:45:48.300 --> 00:45:50.760
pensions from that company about six years before
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.800
this article was published. But it's also interesting
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.639
that these writers or anyone at the Mirror would
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.900
have anything to do with Ghislaine Maxwell. It
00:45:58.900 --> 00:46:01.940
seems to me like an attempt to rebrand her. And
00:46:01.940 --> 00:46:04.159
you see that consistent across different newspapers,
00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:06.860
including ones in America where, in my mind,
00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:09.409
somebody's paying money to have articles
00:46:09.409 --> 00:46:12.190
written about her to make her appear to be a
00:46:12.190 --> 00:46:14.989
socialite so she can develop into that, which
00:46:14.989 --> 00:46:17.530
is really a grifter like her father. But yeah,
00:46:17.610 --> 00:46:20.210
if you ever listen to any of my live shows on YouTube
00:46:20.210 --> 00:46:24.030
or TikTok or Substack, from time to time, I talk
00:46:24.030 --> 00:46:27.130
about the whole issue with her and her crime
00:46:27.130 --> 00:46:30.329
family. And I'll do a special podcast episode
00:46:30.329 --> 00:46:33.670
about it soon. I wonder, in terms of Anouska
00:46:33.670 --> 00:46:36.250
De Georgiou, I wonder what holds her back from
00:46:36.250 --> 00:46:39.340
talking about Donald Trump. Makes you wonder
00:46:39.340 --> 00:46:41.039
if there was some type of settlement agreement,
00:46:41.380 --> 00:46:44.880
a nondisclosure, some reason why legally she
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.760
can't talk about Donald Trump. Or is it fear
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.460
of Donald Trump, fear of speaking about him,
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.400
which would be totally understandable, especially
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.360
since there have been so many allegations of him
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.840
using violence against women. Also, the report
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.480
talks about how Anouska testified against Ghislaine
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:08.150
Maxwell at Ghislaine Maxwell's criminal prosecution
00:47:08.150 --> 00:47:14.019
in that case. Speaking of which, Ghislaine Maxwell
00:47:14.019 --> 00:47:16.659
is in federal prison still, at least as far as
00:47:16.659 --> 00:47:19.079
we're aware. I mean, I do check from time to
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.739
time the Bureau of Prisons website to do the
00:47:21.739 --> 00:47:24.679
inmate locator and see where Ghislaine Maxwell
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:28.079
is. On my social media, I did a post a couple
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.579
of weeks ago. I don't think it was too well received
00:47:30.579 --> 00:47:33.159
by anybody, though. There's certainly not that
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:35.719
many likes on the post, but I suggested that
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.789
maybe we should all band together and send
00:47:38.789 --> 00:47:41.909
some redacted books to Ghislaine Maxwell so she
00:47:41.909 --> 00:47:46.750
could read in prison. But remember, it was not
00:47:46.750 --> 00:47:51.849
long ago, the summer of 2025, when Donald Trump's
00:47:51.849 --> 00:47:55.869
then Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, who
00:47:55.869 --> 00:47:58.289
was working under Attorney General Pam Bondi
00:47:58.289 --> 00:48:02.710
at the time, flew down to Tallahassee, Florida,
00:48:02.869 --> 00:48:06.429
where Ghislaine Maxwell was being held in prison.
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.380
And Todd Blanche interviews her for two days
00:48:09.380 --> 00:48:12.019
with a court reporter present, in a sense, some
00:48:12.019 --> 00:48:15.719
type of de facto proffer, which doesn't really
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.719
make any sense. What was she making a proffer
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:22.719
for? We know the Department of Justice had decided
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.099
to not investigate anybody surrounding Epstein
00:48:26.099 --> 00:48:28.940
or Donald Trump and all of these allegations.
00:48:29.139 --> 00:48:34.300
So why were they trying to figure out what Ghislaine
00:48:34.780 --> 00:48:38.019
Maxwell knows? A lot of Todd Blanche's questioning
00:48:38.019 --> 00:48:41.440
was misguided. But what the Judiciary Committee
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.340
report says is that during these interviews,
00:48:44.619 --> 00:48:47.599
Ghislaine Maxwell starts to talk about somebody
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.800
named Jane. And we know Jane was a 14-year-old
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.599
girl when she had been trafficked in this whole
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.719
network. And Todd Blanche cuts Ghislaine off
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.980
and redirects her. I mean, doing that one time
00:48:59.980 --> 00:49:03.360
is suspicious, but this happened a few times
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.809
during the entire interview with regard to Jane.
00:49:06.989 --> 00:49:10.090
So I'm going to play for you right now an excerpt
00:49:10.090 --> 00:49:13.769
from the interview between Todd Blanche and Ghislaine
00:49:13.769 --> 00:49:16.650
Maxwell. This is day two of the interview. These
00:49:16.650 --> 00:49:20.070
specific interactions between the two are what
00:49:20.070 --> 00:49:23.789
the Democrats are saying in their report is Todd
00:49:23.789 --> 00:49:28.230
Blanche basically redirecting Ghislaine away from
00:49:28.230 --> 00:49:32.289
talking about Jane. You kind of reject that that
00:49:32.289 --> 00:49:36.750
happened, that you saw that, an obviously under-18
00:49:36.750 --> 00:49:39.889
woman coming to give him a massage. Well,
00:49:39.889 --> 00:49:41.690
I believe you're talking about Jane, and I'm
00:49:41.690 --> 00:49:44.449
very happy to address that. I actually don't
00:49:44.449 --> 00:49:48.630
think that the testimony is correct. I don't
00:49:48.630 --> 00:49:51.570
believe... No, no, I just wanted to... Yeah,
00:49:51.590 --> 00:49:52.889
yeah, I don't want to get into... No, no, no,
00:49:52.889 --> 00:49:55.849
absolutely not. I don't want to go there. I'm
00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:58.730
not going to do that. But I believe that what
00:49:58.730 --> 00:50:00.829
took place with a lot of these people is that
00:50:00.829 --> 00:50:04.590
there was a slide, right? So there was a zone.
00:50:06.170 --> 00:50:09.590
And he did meet her, and I did meet her, and I
00:50:09.590 --> 00:50:11.670
knew that she was a young child and I knew that
00:50:11.670 --> 00:50:16.389
she was not an adult. But I don't believe he
00:50:16.389 --> 00:50:20.909
met her until she was 16. So I'm not doing a
00:50:20.909 --> 00:50:22.769
he said, she said. I'm not doing that because
00:50:22.769 --> 00:50:26.610
that's not what we have. And here's the other
00:50:26.610 --> 00:50:30.750
clip that the Democrats say proves Todd Blanche
00:50:30.750 --> 00:50:34.730
is redirecting Ghislaine Maxwell away from talking
00:50:34.730 --> 00:50:40.349
about. So I think it's helpful to put this on
00:50:40.349 --> 00:50:44.010
the time, on the calendar, because I think without
00:50:44.010 --> 00:50:48.460
that we're lost. So I would say we'll go from
00:50:48.460 --> 00:50:53.079
the beginning. '91, no. '92, no. '93, no. '94, no. '95,
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.059
no. '96. Now, in that time frame, you have the
00:50:57.059 --> 00:51:01.719
allegations of Jane, which I dispute. I don't think
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:03.690
you met her until she was... Let's not talk about
00:51:03.690 --> 00:51:06.150
individuals. No, no, I'm just saying. But there's
00:51:06.150 --> 00:51:08.550
only, so in that time period, I'm only aware of
00:51:08.550 --> 00:51:11.170
her. The report says that the whole point of
00:51:11.170 --> 00:51:13.869
the conversation here was to create a conspiracy
00:51:13.869 --> 00:51:17.369
of silence and strategically deter Ghislaine
00:51:17.369 --> 00:51:20.429
Maxwell from sharing information that was not
00:51:20.429 --> 00:51:23.730
public at the time regarding the relationship
00:51:23.730 --> 00:51:26.969
between Trump and Epstein. I don't know if I
00:51:26.969 --> 00:51:30.170
quite exactly hear that within these excerpts.
00:51:30.730 --> 00:51:34.389
But I did notice after I read both days of these
00:51:34.389 --> 00:51:38.400
transcripts that Todd Blanche isn't very focused
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.739
when he's examining Ghislaine. He'll ask her
00:51:41.739 --> 00:51:44.219
open-ended questions and she'll divert onto
00:51:44.219 --> 00:51:46.659
different topics and he doesn't redirect her
00:51:46.659 --> 00:51:50.639
back enough, in my mind, to, in a sense, box
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.940
her in so that she can't later change the testimony.
00:51:54.300 --> 00:51:57.539
A lot of the interview goes this way. And this
00:51:57.539 --> 00:52:00.380
is just a hypothetical type of question. If Todd
00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:04.420
Blanche were to ask Ghislaine if the sky was
00:52:04.420 --> 00:52:08.579
blue throughout the entire day, Ghislaine might
00:52:08.579 --> 00:52:13.119
answer something like, well, I know before 8
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.760
o'clock in the morning it wasn't blue. Then
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.019
Todd Blanche will simply move on to a different
00:52:18.019 --> 00:52:21.059
subject. He doesn't follow up with basic questions
00:52:21.059 --> 00:52:24.659
such as, well, what was the sky like after 8?
00:52:25.139 --> 00:52:28.179
Was it blue at any time after 8? It seems to
00:52:28.179 --> 00:52:31.099
me that he'll ask questions that are entirely
00:52:31.099 --> 00:52:35.199
irrelevant and won't elicit anything useful whatsoever
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.019
from Ghislaine. And in between those moments,
00:52:39.179 --> 00:52:42.619
he'll pepper in something that is important to
00:52:42.619 --> 00:52:45.199
Donald Trump. And at the end of the day, Blanche
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.860
really shouldn't be interrupting Ghislaine when
00:52:47.860 --> 00:52:50.119
she's talking. The whole point is to get her
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:53.480
to talk, not to get her to stop talking or cut
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.059
her off midway through a thought. Having read
00:52:57.059 --> 00:52:59.539
the transcripts before, having listened to these
00:52:59.539 --> 00:53:02.179
interviews before, and then listening to them
00:53:02.179 --> 00:53:04.960
again and again, based on this new perspective
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.139
that the Democrats give us in their House Judiciary
00:53:08.139 --> 00:53:11.539
Report, I don't see in these couple of passages
00:53:11.539 --> 00:53:15.400
about Jane that what Todd Blanche is doing
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.139
is as sinister as the Democrats are making it
00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:22.000
out to be, but it could be, and it might be because
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.340
we really don't have a lot of information about
00:53:24.340 --> 00:53:28.199
Jane. I can imagine that Jane really is kryptonite
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:32.500
to Donald Trump, and I can see Todd Blanche
00:53:32.500 --> 00:53:35.820
really trying to bury this and dirty up the record
00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:39.260
so Ghislaine doesn't talk about Jane. After all,
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.659
Todd Blanche is asking her questions as to whether
00:53:42.659 --> 00:53:46.059
she's aware of any underage girls with Epstein
00:53:46.059 --> 00:53:49.840
around the time frame of '91 through 2000-ish.
00:53:49.940 --> 00:53:53.219
And when Ghislaine brings up Jane, you'd think
00:53:53.219 --> 00:53:57.099
that Blanche would want to know more about her
00:53:57.099 --> 00:54:00.119
and those allegations. But Blanche probably already
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.679
knows a lot about her and those allegations because
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:07.760
he would have had access as a then-deputy attorney
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:11.869
general to Jane's testimony in the case of the
00:54:11.869 --> 00:54:15.170
United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell. One of the
00:54:15.170 --> 00:54:19.690
other major things disclosed in this report is
00:54:19.690 --> 00:54:24.630
the account of Beatrice Keul. She alleges she
00:54:24.630 --> 00:54:30.250
was raped by Donald Trump in 1993. She was a
00:54:30.250 --> 00:54:33.889
young Swiss model who was recruited to attend
00:54:33.889 --> 00:54:38.329
Trump's American Dream pageant. The House
00:54:38.510 --> 00:54:40.889
Judiciary Committee staff interviewed her.
00:54:40.969 --> 00:54:44.170
She discussed the pageant and how there was a
00:54:44.170 --> 00:54:46.889
press luncheon at Donald Trump's Plaza Hotel.
00:54:47.550 --> 00:54:50.650
During their introductory conversation, which lasted
00:54:50.650 --> 00:54:53.590
about 15 minutes, Donald Trump mentioned to her
00:54:53.590 --> 00:54:56.829
that she should go talk to his friend, Paolo
00:54:56.829 --> 00:55:00.389
Zampolli, who would take care of getting a visa
00:55:00.389 --> 00:55:03.630
for her. Trump then told her that he could get
00:55:03.630 --> 00:55:08.030
her into NYU. He repeatedly told her that he'd
00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:11.570
take care of her. Keul said that once she stopped
00:55:11.570 --> 00:55:13.809
talking to Donald Trump during that luncheon,
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.099
Jeffrey Epstein immediately approached her, and
00:55:17.099 --> 00:55:19.539
she talked to him for about 10 minutes. During
00:55:19.539 --> 00:55:22.500
their conversation, Epstein kept looking over
00:55:22.500 --> 00:55:24.519
at Donald Trump, who was on the other side of
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:28.539
the room. Epstein kept grinning at him. Epstein
00:55:28.539 --> 00:55:31.940
made similar promises to her and explained to
00:55:31.940 --> 00:55:33.980
her that they organized many parties for Don.
00:55:34.510 --> 00:55:36.510
Later that day, Donald Trump's representative
00:55:36.510 --> 00:55:40.449
invited Keul to go upstairs at the Plaza Hotel
00:55:40.449 --> 00:55:43.909
and meet with Donald Trump in his room. She thought
00:55:43.909 --> 00:55:46.050
this was going to be a lucky break for the purpose
00:55:46.050 --> 00:55:50.389
of furthering her career and education. Trump's
00:55:50.389 --> 00:55:53.389
representative ushered her up into the suite,
00:55:53.550 --> 00:55:57.750
where, upon entering, Trump reportedly grabbed
00:55:57.750 --> 00:56:01.510
Keul from behind and forcibly raped her, in the
00:56:01.510 --> 00:56:04.659
process tearing her dress. and causing bleeding
00:56:04.659 --> 00:56:07.920
and bruising on multiple parts of her body. Keul
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:12.789
described the rape as brutal. Following the assault,
00:56:12.969 --> 00:56:16.710
Trump sat her on the edge of the bed and repeated
00:56:16.710 --> 00:56:19.670
the same promises to her about getting a visa
00:56:19.670 --> 00:56:23.690
and attending NYU. Keul said she finished the
00:56:23.690 --> 00:56:27.409
rest of the pageant in a daze and that her passport
00:56:27.409 --> 00:56:31.070
was taken from her upon arriving. During the
00:56:31.070 --> 00:56:33.170
pageant, she was also summoned, along with four
00:56:33.170 --> 00:56:36.170
other models, to a private audition with John
00:56:36.170 --> 00:56:39.550
Casablancas. Throughout this report, Donald Trump's
00:56:39.550 --> 00:56:42.090
relationship with John Casablancas and Jeffrey
00:56:42.090 --> 00:56:45.349
Epstein, and also Paolo
00:56:45.349 --> 00:56:48.829
Zampolli, is further explored, showing how all four of those men had
00:56:48.829 --> 00:56:51.090
sometimes worked in conjunction, coordinated
00:56:51.090 --> 00:56:54.710
their efforts to obtain sex from younger girls,
00:56:54.909 --> 00:56:58.469
including by shipping them throughout the world,
00:56:58.900 --> 00:57:02.940
luring them in with the promise of elite education
00:57:02.940 --> 00:57:07.940
or a green card. Beatrice Keul was 24 years of
00:57:07.940 --> 00:57:10.780
age when this rape took place at the Plaza Hotel.
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:14.219
One thing I'm really fascinated by in terms of
00:57:14.219 --> 00:57:18.239
the Plaza Hotel is that before the lawyer named
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:23.019
Roy Cohn ever even met Trump, Roy Cohn was using
00:57:23.019 --> 00:57:28.019
a certain suite within the Plaza Hotel to blackmail
00:57:28.019 --> 00:57:31.760
and extort politicians and other wealthy men.
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.880
The hotel room was rigged up with eight-millimeter
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:38.239
film cameras. And the technique to bait people
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:43.000
in was young people. In 1986, Roy Cohn died of
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.079
complications from AIDS. Two years after that,
00:57:46.179 --> 00:57:50.219
in 1988, Donald Trump purchased the Plaza Hotel.
00:57:50.579 --> 00:57:53.519
And it's understood that those blackmail operations
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:57.659
continued through Trump. None of that's in this
00:57:57.659 --> 00:57:59.900
report. It doesn't surprise me that our government
00:57:59.900 --> 00:58:02.519
doesn't like to talk about these types of surveillance
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.699
operations. Surreptitiously recording people
00:58:05.699 --> 00:58:09.760
seems to be yet another thing Jeffrey Epstein
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:11.739
and Donald Trump have in common. I just hope
00:58:11.739 --> 00:58:14.380
our Congress, our government can investigate
00:58:14.380 --> 00:58:17.420
that, get to the bottom of it, and find all the
00:58:17.420 --> 00:58:20.840
recordings. Some closing thoughts about the report.
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:23.719
It spends a lot of time showing how Donald Trump,
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:26.039
his administration, and the Department of Justice
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:28.789
are covering for him. And so these Democrats
00:58:28.789 --> 00:58:31.690
on the House Judiciary Committee are recommending
00:58:31.690 --> 00:58:36.170
the appointment of a special counsel to investigate
00:58:36.170 --> 00:58:40.250
Trump's potential crimes and the crimes of Jeffrey
00:58:40.250 --> 00:58:43.230
Epstein's other co-conspirators. I like that
00:58:43.230 --> 00:58:45.929
step that the Democrats are formulating some
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type of plan. And the purpose of these special
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counsels is to avoid the conflicts of interest
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of having Donald Trump run an investigation on
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himself. There's a lot more in the report. I'm
00:58:57.059 --> 00:58:58.639
just going to leave that to you to check out.
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It provides the allegations from several other
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women who claim they were sexually assaulted
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by Donald Trump. To find out more information
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me working on this. And of course, a bunch of
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supporters of God on social media out there on
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TikTok especially. But I despise that platform
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because of the rampant censorship. Thanks to
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Larry Ellison and Michael Dell. And also thanks
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