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Hello and welcome to Generation Video Podcast. I'm Wes.
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And I'm Rhett.
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And we're back with Spooky Season here, 2026.
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Yes, we are starting just a little early. We want
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a long runway because we're a big fan of horror movies.
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Yeah, I mean, I could talk horror movies all the time,
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so that's fine with me. Exactly. This week was your pick,
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I think, right? What do you got for us?
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Yes, we are watching Creep from 2014. It's just one
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of the I would say most underrated, one of the
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best found footage horror movies out there.
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Cool. Yeah, this one was not on my radar at all,
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so I'm excited to talk about it. Before we get
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to that, though, what have you been up to lately?
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See anything good?
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Yes.
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Anything you'd recommend?
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You know, I guess not a whole lot on the
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TV front. I know there's a lot of TV shows
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that are just firing strong right now, like, you know,
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Ted Lasso and Lanterns and all kinds of stuff. But
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I'm waiting for some of those seasons to end before
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I watch those. On the movie front, though, I think
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the exciting thing would be Acme vs. Coyote.
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Yeah, you and I, we watched that last week, actually.
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Yep, followed by the Akira. We did the double feature.
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Yes, yes.
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Excellent, excellent double feature. What did you think of Acme?
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Oh, man, you know what? It was really, really good.
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I've been telling a lot of people that it was
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like a mix of Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Better
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Call Saul. Yeah. But with, like, heart behind it, you know?
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So much heart. I was not expecting that. I thought
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it was just going to be, like, wacky, zany, like,
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just keep the kiddos occupied for a while.
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Yeah, no, it was well done, and it had so
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many callbacks and references to the old, like, the Chuck
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Jones and Frizz Freeling directed Looney Tunes episodes. So, like...
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those of us that gen xers that grew up in
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the 80s watching the reruns like it's kind of referential
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to that stuff that we grew up with and it
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was cool to see because it was so well done
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yeah i'm so glad that they finally released it because
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it was so dumb that they shelved.
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It yeah the marketing hell is is crazy but one
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thing that i just absolutely adored about the movie is
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it felt like it it really respected the history of
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looney tunes it didn't feel like You know, here's just
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like an undoing or retcon or, you know, something that
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doesn't really respect the series. It felt like this was
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just like a really kind of good, natural progression. Like
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a good question for like the whole universe to ask
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at some point is like, what's going on with those
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acne products?
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Yeah, it was fun. It's a fun concept. And I
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enjoyed the execution of it, too. I thought it was
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really well done.
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Yes. And? After that, we saw Akira, and if you want,
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I guess, the extended thoughts on that, go check out
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our episode on that.
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Yeah, definitely a deep dive on Akira, but it's one
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of my favorite animes, so I'm always up for watching it.
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We caught the English dub, I think it was like
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the late show, which was cool. I mean, the English
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dub's good. I grew up with it, watching it, and
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I like the subtitled one too, so any Akira is
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good Akira.
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Absolutely. What did you think about it being blown up
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on the big screen?
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I thought it looked great. I thought they really cleaned
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up a lot of the shots, especially like the city
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shots and stuff in the beginning, the iconic stuff that
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I know and love. So just on the whole, I'm
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really glad to see these big anime releases coming to
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theaters because I think end of this month is Ghost
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in the Shell, I want to say.
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Yeah, that one's getting its anniversary or its theatrical release.
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So I'm excited for that. And then I think Ninja
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Scroll is coming as well. And I believe Vampire Hunter
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D Bloodlust also. So we're talking like heavy hitter 90s,
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2000s animes that were hitting when I was working at
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like Suncoast and Blockbuster and stuff back in the day.
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So for me to go back and see these now
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on the big screen, it's like, that's cool. And it
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gets more people into it and be like, oh, that's badass.
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So I'm all for it.
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This is stuff that I wasn't around for, really. I
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didn't get to appreciate this. I've only heard about it
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in its glory days. So for those of us who
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have just heard about how cool it was to see
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on the big screen, we finally get a taste of that. Yeah.
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So I like the fact that some of the classic
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stuff is coming back in theaters because it's raising awareness
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for this stuff and getting it. in front of new
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audiences and you know, they're looking at it like, yeah, this,
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this stuff is really good.
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Yeah. Is there any movie that you think that, uh,
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you would rather have swapped out, you know, from that
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Mount Rushmore they chose?
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What do you mean?
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Like, is there a movie that like, uh, I feel
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like they should have done this instead of that.
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I don't know. There's so many choices that you could
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do that you could honestly just, uh, have it run
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like every year and just celebrate an anniversary of something
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and have it play in there. Um, That would be cool, too, because,
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you know, also we're in an age where anime is
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huge and it's everywhere and instantly accessible. And it wasn't
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always the case. It was harder to get localizations here
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of different things. So now there's more eyeballs on it. So,
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you know, get it in front of as many people
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as you can.
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Yeah. So I was trying to think if there's any. Like,
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you know, one that I would, like, want to swap
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out on that list. And I couldn't really think of
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anything because a lot of the anime movies that I'm
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familiar with are honestly, like, just kind of, like, non-canon
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spinoffs of.
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I mean, those are fun, too, though. I mean, you
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could bring in a huge audience by showing, you know,
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pretty much any of the Dragon Ball Z movies.
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That's exactly what I was going to... I loved... All
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of those. Yeah. And like the one about Broly back
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in the day or Cooler, you know, Freeze's brother.
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Yeah. Me and my buddy Mitch were talking about Broly
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recently because we were talking about DBZ. So, yeah.
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You know that he actually was brought into Super? Like
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he's a canon character in Super, which is crazy because
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he was non-canon throughout all Dragon Ball Z. Yeah.
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Yeah. That would be cool. I'd love to see some
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Mobile Suit Gundam. That would be sweet.
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Oh, yeah. Gundam.
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You could do Probably Char's Counterattack would be the best one.
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I think that actually did play in theaters, but I
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can't remember for sure. But Char's Counterattack is basically the
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Return of the Jedi equivalent of that particular Gundam story. Nice.
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So that would be epic to see on a big screen.
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Hell yeah. Hopefully, with the insane success of some of
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these newer things, like what's it called? Demon Slayer. Demon Slayer,
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Infinity Castle, and then the Bleach stuff that came out.
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So hopefully with all this stuff.
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There's... There's a huge audience for Demon Slayer. It is
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absolutely huge.
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Just for anime in general. Hopefully it just keeps making these.
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But for a lot of people, that's their first one
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that they're really getting into, and that's pretty cool to see.
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That is true. I would say that's a fair assessment.
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There was a massive turnout whenever I went to those.
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Yeah, that shows you how huge that is here. That's
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great to see, I think. Totally.
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So... More anime, you know, nothing wrong with that.
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Yeah. I mean, yeah, I enjoy it.
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As long as it's not any like the super weird
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random stuff that never should have seen the light of day,
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you know, like I remember there was even some shit
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on like Toonami where I was just like, why is
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this guy's nose hair like a character? What is happening?
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What is, what is this anime? Why are Japanese people
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so fucking weird? So those ones, I guess there's an
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audience for it cause it got to TV, but there's, yeah,
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I don't need those to get remastered.
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It was probably based on a manga and somebody drew it.
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So I don't know. It's somebody's story from their brain.
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That's fair. Those are the ones that I would be
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probably shocked at the actual turnout if they were to
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ever do those. They would probably show up in droves.
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Yeah, I don't know if they should show those publicly.
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I don't know.
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Well, I'm not talking about those ones.
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Okay. Okay, good.
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I'm just talking about just regular weird ones.
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Okay, just regular weird.
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Yeah.
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I got you. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
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Like... What's, like, what? I cannot even remember that one.
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It's like, bo-bo-bo-bo, bo-bo-bo, or something like that. Seriously, it's
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a fever dream of a thing. I only ever saw, like,
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one episode, and I thought, never again.
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Never again.
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But those are the types of ones that you don't eat.
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I mean, yeah, we had similar experiences, I guess, back
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in the day, because if you, you know, you went
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to the video store and rented something that looked cool
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based on the box art, and you took it home. And,
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you know, maybe you're sitting around with the family and
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everybody's watching it and something weird shows up on screen.
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You're like, what the fuck is this? What the hell
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is even that?
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Exactly. Daddy chill. Yeah, it's like, please, no one walk
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in while I'm watching whatever the hell this weird thing is.
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Are you winning, son?
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I cannot explain this. Yeah. You know, I guess the
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difference there is, you know, that's just like one potential
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evening or weekend ruined. Whereas, you know, in my case,
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I'm thinking... damn, this slot on Toonami is fucked for
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however long this thing airs.
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Yeah, you're locked in because you're watching it.
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It's like, yeah, I hate, I need to see what
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happens on Dragon Ball right when I get home, and
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then I don't give a damn about this one, but
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I need to see what happens in Ayasha afterwards.
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Yeah, there was always the show in between the shows
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that you wanted to watch that you're like, well, okay,
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I guess I guess I'm watching this now.
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Right yeah I'm following the show.
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Yeah or you're not you're not paying attention to it
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but you know whatever Okay.
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We got off the rails. That was a good detour.
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That's fine.
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Yeah, anything besides Acme and Akira that you need to
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touch base on or that you think is pretty exciting?
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I had a cool experience recently. Went up with a
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couple of high school buddies, Mike and Dave. Dave, who
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does the music for our show, Dave Wesley.
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Shout out.
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Shout out there. We went up to Chicago and saw
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Danny Elfman in his... It's like the tour debut. I
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guess he's touring like 12 cities.
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Whoa, let's go.
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Doing some shows with his band and stuff like that.
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How was that? Give us the rundown. Give us all
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the visual or auditory concert here.
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I mean, it's basically Danny Elfman, who's 73 years old,
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which is hard to believe. Whoa. Don't say that.
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I know, right?
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Yeah. Watching him live, though, he was in like 94. Obviously,
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some of the songs are in different keys. You don't
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want to torch his voice too much. But about 60%
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of the set list was Oingo Boingo songs, which is cool.
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And then played like five or six new songs off
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of his new album. Because his new sound is a
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little bit more going towards like a dark heavy metal
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maybe I would say.
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That feels like a departure.
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Yeah. Um, so yeah, it was cool. And that was
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a bucket list thing for me cause I hadn't seen
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him live. Um, so it was a super fun experience, um,
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especially to just go with the, uh, you know, the
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friends that, you know, you, you used to listen to
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it like as a kid.
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Yeah. Getting the whole band back together.
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That's exactly it. Yeah. So everybody's got their, uh, particular
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band or, you know, a thing that sticks to them
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in the same thing. So it was awesome.
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Yeah. And I think it's really cool that, you know, Danielle,
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it's one thing to see him in videotapes or, you know,
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YouTube videos and things like that. And like, this is
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how we perform and things like, you know, this is
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what it did sound like live, but to like be there.
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And like you said, do that bucket list.
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Like that's incredible.
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He's one of the icons that he's just been around
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for so long. Yeah. If you get a chance to
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see him, yeah, make the effort.
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It was cool. Also, he did one song from Nightmare
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Before Christmas. So that was cool. So they brought out
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a sport coat. He put on a sport coat and saying,
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this is Halloween. Then they had in the background footage
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from Nightmare Before Christmas playing.
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That's actually funny. Tracy was just getting into the Halloween
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spirit over the weekend because it was three day weekend
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with Labor Day. Uh, so she like put on all
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kinds of Halloween stuff. We watched, uh, Night Before Christmas and, um, Coraline.
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So we're, yeah.
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Coraline, uh, Corpse Sprite. We've seen that one.
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We have seen it, but that was not on the
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docket for that. Okay.
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But like we had just heard that song.
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Yeah. Dave and I were talking about that recently where
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it's like, man, like I feel like people are sleeping
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on Corpse Sprite a little bit. Like I don't hear
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a lot of people talking about it for a Tim
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Burton production.
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I agree.
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I remember seeing it, but yeah, I haven't, I haven't
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rewatched it for a long time.
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So, you know, all of this stuff is great. So,
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I mean, it's always pretty rewatchable.
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Yeah. It's just weird how that one's kind of slipped
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through the cracks, I guess.
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Yeah, I agree. Like it shows like I see it
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in pop culture and like people will like dress as,
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you know, characters here and there. But I guess I
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don't really see people or hear people bringing the actual
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movie itself up. Not really.
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No, I see merch like Spirit Halloween and stuff like that.
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But I don't hear a lot of people talk about it. So, yeah. Anyway. Uh,
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so yeah, this week is creep. So this is your pick. So, um,
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I really don't have any experience with this movie cause
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it wasn't on my radar at the time. So I
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didn't see it as my first time watching it, but
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I'm curious what your history is with it.
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Yeah, I actually, I was a little tardy to the
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party one for, for a creep, you know, like you said,
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2014 and I know it was, you know, really big
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on Netflix. I think that's where most people were introduced
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to it. Um, You know, and I remember actually, like,
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scrolling past it like a dozen times at least on that,
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you know, probably more than that. You know, I was
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scrolling past it a lot, but it was actually my
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wonderful wife, Tracy, that showed me this movie. Oh. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah,
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whenever we had, like, kind of first started dating and
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we were, like, watching movies and just kind of just
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showing each other cool stuff, you know. Mm-hmm. And, yeah,
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she put me on this movie because we're obviously both
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huge horror fans.
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That's a good, that's a good find. Yeah.
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Yeah. And, you know, I think I had mentioned maybe
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some of the effects of like, yeah, VHS is great.
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You know, I think that's, you know, awesome. Love found
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footage horror. And she brought, you know, in response, like, Oh, well,
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have you seen creep?
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Uh-huh. Yeah.
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Yeah. And we watched that and yeah, I was just
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totally blown away by it. And, I absolutely have to
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thank her for that one. Huge shout-out on the recommendation.
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It's one that I'm always pleased to recommend.
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I mean, without spoiling too much, I guess we're going
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to talk about it anyway, but that's an incredibly solid recommendation.
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For sure. So, again, thank you, Tracy.
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Right.
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I guess what kind of inspired the pick, though, while
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we're here, we had watched Back Room just not too
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terribly long ago, whenever that came out, and the lead
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actor in this movie, Mark Duplass, He shows up in
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the back room, and I was like, oh, hell yeah,
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Mark Duplass from Creep. And Wes, he wasn't familiar with him,
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and I was like, oh, dude, you've never seen him?
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Yeah, I was like, who? What? Again, it wasn't on
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my radar.
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Yeah, so ever since I watch back rooms and I
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said that, this movie's been in my back pocket, and
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I've just been waiting for spooky season.
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Yeah. So look at how this movie kind of virally
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creeps along in recommendations. You know what I mean? Because
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Tracy recommended it to you. you're recommended to me. Now
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I feel like I got to pass it on to somebody.
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I absolutely.
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So, uh, yeah. And the, and the creep just keeps creeping.
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Yeah, man. Like the, the legend grows.
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It does. Oh man. Yeah. Uh, awesome. Okay. Yeah. I, uh,
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was this like a Netflix original or was it just,
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did it just get big on Netflix?
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Yeah, I think just got big on, on Netflix. I
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know like Blumhouse made it. So I, I couldn't say
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like where it originally got distributed though.
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Okay. I just don't remember it being in theaters, but
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I don't know. It's weird.
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I don't know if it got a theatrical release. I
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guess I can Google it.
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Oh, maybe not then. Okay.
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Yeah. Let's see. Let's see what the Google AI top
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answer is. Let's see what some guy in Reddit bullshit
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spouted off 10 years ago, right? Right.
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Yeah, but three AIs have now copied and gotten wrong.
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Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Did Creep release in theaters?
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I don't remember.
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Google says no. Okay.
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Then, yeah.
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Premiered at South by Southwest and then later released on
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video on demand. Okay.
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Well, that's fair. And yes. Okay. That makes sense.
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That seems like a credible answer. It says IMDB for
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like the thing it pulled from. So I tend to
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believe that one. Yeah.
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I just didn't, I guess maybe there wasn't much marketing
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for it or whatever, because I mean, it's a found
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footage horror film, but I didn't know it was a
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found footage. Cause I didn't really, you know, didn't dig
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into it very much, but that's cool though. Cause, um,
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you know, when, when done right there, they're interesting. Yeah.
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I mean, this movie absolutely pulls you in. And I
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think it's entirely, as we just described, I think this
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movie success is entirely word of mouth. Like it hardly
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got any sort of distribution or really didn't make any
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like big ways. And that means, but yeah, just people
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like talk about it. Cause whenever you watch this movie,
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it seriously is like, it's, it's a very shocking movie,
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a lot of different ways.
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Yeah, and I couldn't help but think, because this is
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a found footage film that was made in 2014, we're
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watching it 12 years later, and I'm looking at it
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now through the eyes of just how we interact with
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social media in general today, with TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, whatever,
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and we're constantly video blogging ourselves, right? And this is
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like 12 years before that would be, the found footage
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of just, you know, filming yourself on, like, a camera
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or streaming somewhere. And it's, like, it's the same, but
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it's different, where you could make a found footage horror
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film very easily now through, like, social media. You see how, like,
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Backrooms starts the trend, right, with being a viral thing.
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And I see it from here, and it's, like, this
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movie costs, like, nothing to make, and it's all in
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the writing and the acting. Mm-hmm. and i don't i
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used to normally not like found footage horror films that
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much but um watching this one now like in in
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the modern age then i'm like oh this is a
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this is good because you can just make it cheaply
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and focus on the writing and the acting and then
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it just like it just hooks you in.
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Yeah so i mean that's Perfectly said. And this movie
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is a masterclass at doing that. It's awesome.
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Yeah. This is the shit that studios were missing for
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so long, where they're throwing billions of dollars at projects
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that are just not appealing to anyone and just sinking.
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But you have something like this that's an interesting idea,
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and it's incredibly well made and much more enjoyable. And
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then it gets more word of mouth, right? Mm-hmm. Organically,
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as opposed to, you know, just it's not another Marvel film.
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You know what I mean?
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Right.
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So different.
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And here it is, yeah, still making the rounds all
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these years later. Yeah.
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Man, all right, I'm excited to talk about it.
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Yeah, let's dive into it.
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Oh, wait. All right, well, let's check out the trailer
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and see if that gives us kind of an indicator
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of what this is like.
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Yes, good call. Yeah.
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All right, we are leaving the flatlands, and we are
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heading up towards the mountaintop. The ad said $ 1, 000 for
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the day.
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Filming services.
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Discretion is appreciated.
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Are you on the door?
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I'm realizing that no one knows I'm here.
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Hi. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to scare you.
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I'm assuming you're Aaron.
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Joseph, oh my God. Oh my God. This is gonna
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be a good day.
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So the reason I've hired you is because I have
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terminal brain cancer and I want you to film me
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to make a video diary for my unborn son. You
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ready for this? Joseph, this is called an adventure. We
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don't know exactly where we're going, but I have a feeling.
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When you follow those feelings, great things can happen. Don't
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ever forget that. Joseph! There was about two seconds there
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where it looked like you wanted to kill me. Joseph,
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I think I'm.
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Gonna head back. You see my keys?
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One drink, okay? Bottoms up.
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Hello? You need to get out of that house right now.
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Why do you look scared? Don't be scared. It'll all
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be over.
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Soon.
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Damn, what a trailer.
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Dude, holy shit, what a good trailer.
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Yeah. I mean, it really sets the stage for how
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bizarre of a concept it is, right?
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Yeah.
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Just from the trailer alone.
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And it doesn't feel like it gives away too much
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or overstays its welcome. That's just a well-done trailer.
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember seeing this trailer
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at all, but if it played in the theaters, I
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would have been like, all right, I got to go
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see what this is about.
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Honestly, yeah. I was surprised that trailer didn't get... distributed
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or marketed more.
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Yeah anyway yeah let's get into it i'm i'm excited
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to talk about.
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It yes we've preambled long enough let's let's get in
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but before we start uh i have this little challenge
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to everyone feel free to drink every time we say
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the word weird or creepy and see how far you
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make it into this podcast.
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Oh jesus okay it's gonna be one of those all.
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Right if you guys are feeling adventurous yeah let's go
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but uh yeah so um Honestly, I probably don't need
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to say any of this stuff in the intro because
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that trailer did such a good job of explaining everything. Sure.
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But I wrote it, and God damn it.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to read it.
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Do it.
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Because it's the truth. That's a Tenacious D reference to
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the fucking guys who's setting up the band. But anyways,
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this movie has the most straightforward premise ever. It's all
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found footage, and as the cameraman Aaron explains... Right off
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the bat, he's heading into the remote house up in
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the mountains because he's responded to an ad for a
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00:24:02.309 --> 00:24:06.319
cameraman for a day for $ 1, 000. And as the trailer said,
488
00:24:06.380 --> 00:24:11.420
discretion is appreciated. Aaron also muses that he knows virtually
489
00:24:11.579 --> 00:24:15.519
nothing about this job or who the mystery employer is. Like,
490
00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.039
for all he knows, it could be some old lady
491
00:24:18.099 --> 00:24:20.420
looking for a young man to come whisper sweet nothings
492
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.950
to her. Sweet nothings. So, yeah, we'll see how it goes.
493
00:24:25.630 --> 00:24:26.609
Probably not that, though.
494
00:24:27.140 --> 00:24:31.309
No, but this concept is already pretty ironclad because it's
495
00:24:31.309 --> 00:24:34.390
12 years later and that's still a relatable thing to
496
00:24:34.430 --> 00:24:34.829
think about.
497
00:24:34.849 --> 00:24:37.390
I was going to say, yeah, I, I meant to
498
00:24:37.470 --> 00:24:40.410
like mention Craigslist earlier, whenever you had mentioned some platforms
499
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:43.240
and it's like, this movie was like Craigslist was big
500
00:24:43.259 --> 00:24:46.940
around that era. And like, this is something that could
501
00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:48.519
have happened very easily. Yeah.
502
00:24:48.619 --> 00:24:50.660
Or now it's in the era of like marketplace or
503
00:24:50.700 --> 00:24:54.160
even just, um, you know, somebody trying to break into
504
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.380
the film industry or something, just taking on an odd
505
00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:58.740
job like this. Like, yes, it's like, okay, this is
506
00:24:58.789 --> 00:25:00.170
a good concept, right?
507
00:25:00.349 --> 00:25:01.869
Yeah. It's still just as relatable.
508
00:25:02.029 --> 00:25:02.289
Yeah.
509
00:25:02.329 --> 00:25:02.670
Good point.
510
00:25:04.009 --> 00:25:05.269
Uh, yeah.
511
00:25:05.309 --> 00:25:08.210
So fun fact, Aaron drives past a real sign for
512
00:25:08.250 --> 00:25:12.009
Lake Gregory, Lake Gregory in Crestline, California, where this movie
513
00:25:12.029 --> 00:25:13.069
was filmed and takes place.
514
00:25:13.990 --> 00:25:14.349
Oh, cool.
515
00:25:14.950 --> 00:25:17.880
Yep. Uh, bad news though. There seems to be no
516
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.039
one at the given address and the poster, uh, like
517
00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:24.109
the job poster, uh, isn't answering their phone, and then
518
00:25:25.089 --> 00:25:28.029
after Aaron sees a woodcutting axe buried in a stump,
519
00:25:28.529 --> 00:25:30.549
he decides that it's probably safer to go wait in
520
00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:34.730
his car. But right before throwing in the towel, the
521
00:25:34.769 --> 00:25:38.690
employer just shows up and introduces himself suddenly as Joseph,
522
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:44.440
and then he immediately shows some more, like, very off-putting behavior, like... Oh, just.
523
00:25:44.740 --> 00:25:47.819
From the get-go, because he jump scares him right at
524
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:48.279
the car.
525
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:49.130
Yeah, like....
526
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:53.579
Like he's just been running through the woods or something.
527
00:25:53.619 --> 00:25:56.200
He's out of breath. And it's like, Hey, I'm super
528
00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:59.220
excited to see you, whatever. And it's like, okay, this
529
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:02.859
is weird already. Cause like I wasn't prepared for that
530
00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:06.269
part because you know, you're, you're thrown into this because
531
00:26:06.329 --> 00:26:08.289
it's found footage or whatever. So it's kind of like
532
00:26:08.329 --> 00:26:09.910
first person perspective almost.
533
00:26:10.009 --> 00:26:10.230
Right.
534
00:26:10.309 --> 00:26:10.509
Yeah.
535
00:26:10.549 --> 00:26:11.289
Easy to get immersed.
536
00:26:11.589 --> 00:26:14.710
Yeah. And so, uh, all of a sudden he just
537
00:26:15.109 --> 00:26:17.640
jumps into frame and, You're like, okay, what's going on?
538
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:21.640
This is already weird because my wife and I knew
539
00:26:21.700 --> 00:26:25.240
somebody kind of like this at one point that was
540
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.680
just a little unhinged and I was just like, okay,
541
00:26:27.700 --> 00:26:30.529
I think, yeah. This is, yeah.
542
00:26:31.150 --> 00:26:32.750
People like this exist.
543
00:26:33.029 --> 00:26:35.710
Yeah. It's relatable, unfortunately.
544
00:26:35.730 --> 00:26:40.630
Yeah, unfortunately. He's the key term. But I will say
545
00:26:40.670 --> 00:26:43.460
he's not only weird, he's a little disarming too. Like
546
00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:46.599
he just has this sort of you know, it's mostly weird,
547
00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:50.079
but he kind of has this somewhat boyish or innocent
548
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:53.160
charm to him at times that is, is just, just
549
00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:56.869
disarming enough to let your guard down. I would say, uh,
550
00:26:56.910 --> 00:26:59.630
it's hard to almost, it's hard to like capture that
551
00:26:59.750 --> 00:27:03.509
in like, you know, in, in, you know, podcast form
552
00:27:03.529 --> 00:27:06.910
like we're doing here, but no, I mean, it's disarming. Yeah.
553
00:27:06.990 --> 00:27:08.920
At best we can do is, is paint the picture
554
00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:10.559
for you. And when you see it, then you're going
555
00:27:10.579 --> 00:27:14.619
to be like, Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. Uh, yeah, because, uh,
556
00:27:15.970 --> 00:27:16.450
He's just.
557
00:27:17.410 --> 00:27:19.390
Well, he goes in for a hug. He's like, this
558
00:27:19.490 --> 00:27:21.289
is going to be super normal later. Let's just hug.
559
00:27:21.549 --> 00:27:22.849
It'll feel... This is fine.
560
00:27:22.869 --> 00:27:26.599
Yeah, just from the get-go, I'm just like, nah, nah, man.
561
00:27:26.630 --> 00:27:31.019
This is just... I don't usually yell at the TV,
562
00:27:31.059 --> 00:27:33.519
but a couple of times, I was like, fuck you.
563
00:27:33.579 --> 00:27:36.220
I'm like, fuck off. No, get the fuck out. I
564
00:27:36.259 --> 00:27:38.660
will say, that is a good litmus test. You rarely
565
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:40.039
get that involved into a movie.
566
00:27:40.059 --> 00:27:40.740
Exactly, yeah.
567
00:27:40.819 --> 00:27:41.940
And you're like, wait, hold on.
568
00:27:42.140 --> 00:27:44.410
I got pulled in a little bit because... Like I said,
569
00:27:44.450 --> 00:27:46.319
we kind of knew somebody that acted like this at
570
00:27:46.390 --> 00:27:49.819
one point. And it's like, oh, shit. No, fuck you.
571
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.140
Pretty easy to put yourself in Aaron's shoes.
572
00:27:52.339 --> 00:27:56.200
Yeah. Yeah. So, like I said, I don't usually like
573
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:02.109
found footage films. But this one's pretty damn good so far. Yes. Because,
574
00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:07.049
like you said, it's unnerving just from the get-go. And
575
00:28:07.089 --> 00:28:10.569
he's oversharing in his little story about who he is
576
00:28:11.069 --> 00:28:14.809
and what he wants, you know. Out of errands. So
577
00:28:15.029 --> 00:28:17.690
right from the get-go, I would just be like, nope, thanks,
578
00:28:17.750 --> 00:28:18.740
see ya. I'm out.
579
00:28:18.750 --> 00:28:23.059
Where's the door? Yeah, I know. I agree with you.
580
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:24.980
This is one of those movies where it's just like, man,
581
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.539
you put yourself in this spot. You should have seen
582
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:31.400
the flags. Getting on with the filming job, though, I
583
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:33.700
think the trailer already explained this, but just to retread,
584
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.329
because I freaking wrote it, so I'm going to read it.
585
00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:39.789
Joseph explains that he's a cancer survivor, but after experiencing
586
00:28:39.829 --> 00:28:44.059
some worsening symptoms a couple months ago, They found an
587
00:28:44.140 --> 00:28:47.619
inoperable brain tumor, so he's hiring Aaron to document a
588
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.680
series of video journals for his wife, Angela, and their
589
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.700
unborn son, lovingly referred to as Buddy. And then he
590
00:28:54.740 --> 00:28:58.380
brings up, like, Michael Keaton's movie, My Life, I believe. Yeah.
591
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:00.609
And he's like, that's his inspiration for doing this.
592
00:29:01.069 --> 00:29:04.829
Yeah, and it's, like, it's so funny because, like, what
593
00:29:04.849 --> 00:29:08.769
a deep cut, first of all, because that movie, like,
594
00:29:08.890 --> 00:29:10.970
is from, like, way back, so there's no way that
595
00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:13.519
that this kid would have seen it. You know what
596
00:29:13.539 --> 00:29:16.400
I mean? But it fits the story perfectly. And again,
597
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.269
like if you know somebody that kind of acts like
598
00:29:18.309 --> 00:29:21.269
this or whatever, you'd be like, yeah, that's weird.
599
00:29:22.549 --> 00:29:23.809
So read the room. No one knows that.
600
00:29:24.529 --> 00:29:24.970
Right.
601
00:29:26.349 --> 00:29:28.109
Right after that, you mean Beetlejuice?
602
00:29:28.630 --> 00:29:31.759
Like there's a wide gap between people that watched my
603
00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:33.460
life and Beetlejuice, you know?
604
00:29:33.980 --> 00:29:35.980
I know. And I know I'm like mostly from Batman.
605
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:36.420
Yeah.
606
00:29:38.099 --> 00:29:41.779
But anyways right after that Joe pays Aaron the whole
607
00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:43.859
thing a whole thousand bucks and they set out on
608
00:29:43.900 --> 00:29:47.420
what's described as a journey into the heart to the
609
00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:53.829
bathtub naturally yeah Aaron's like that's what he's feeling in
610
00:29:53.869 --> 00:29:55.849
that moment did you say tub.
611
00:29:55.630 --> 00:30:00.619
Yeah because Joseph does he just like He runs up
612
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.279
the stairs at full speed. And, you know, this guy
613
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.569
is probably, what do you think, in his 30s?
614
00:30:05.779 --> 00:30:06.609
Yeah, mid-30s.
615
00:30:06.660 --> 00:30:11.150
Mid-30s, probably. Yeah, and so then Aaron's just like, you
616
00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:12.269
want me to follow you?
617
00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:17.750
Yeah, like a grown-ass man. Yeah, so he did hear
618
00:30:17.769 --> 00:30:20.799
him correctly, and then they go up the tub, and
619
00:30:20.890 --> 00:30:22.779
what proceeds is the weirdest shit.
620
00:30:22.740 --> 00:30:26.710
Ever of Joseph pretending. Right from the get. Like this
621
00:30:26.769 --> 00:30:29.789
movie is just going for the weirdness because it's just
622
00:30:29.829 --> 00:30:31.089
sinking its claws into you.
623
00:30:31.509 --> 00:30:35.190
Absolutely. You know, and this is proof positive. Yes.
624
00:30:35.259 --> 00:30:36.920
What we're going to describe in this scene.
625
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:38.500
We're using the term weird a lot.
626
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.140
How many drinks is that? Like six?
627
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.519
Yeah, I've already lost count. I got to get through
628
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.420
a whole script. I can't play this game. Are you
629
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.920
kidding me? But yeah, Joseph, he's pretending to have a
630
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.410
very involved tubby time with an imaginary buddy. Followed by.
631
00:30:55.430 --> 00:30:58.630
This guy's in his 30s, right? Yeah. Okay. Just making sure.
632
00:30:59.049 --> 00:31:02.670
Followed immediately by a weirdo, by the weirdo voicing thoughts
633
00:31:02.910 --> 00:31:07.690
of just ending things now. So, like, emotional whiplash, you know,
634
00:31:07.730 --> 00:31:11.089
where it's just, like, weird tub scene with his imaginary
635
00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:14.049
kid and then just dark suicidal thoughts of, like, I
636
00:31:14.410 --> 00:31:16.210
just want to end it now. Yeah.
637
00:31:16.630 --> 00:31:19.579
Well, and can we talk about just in the beginning
638
00:31:19.630 --> 00:31:22.740
when he follows him up the stairs and dude's, like,
639
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.619
he's ready to, like, get in this bathtub And he's
640
00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:28.329
ready to get naked in front of this random stranger that's,
641
00:31:28.589 --> 00:31:29.450
you know, filming him.
642
00:31:29.529 --> 00:31:31.269
And he's just like, that's going to get weird.
643
00:31:30.970 --> 00:31:31.769
Or whatever, you know.
644
00:31:32.190 --> 00:31:33.950
Yeah, we're going to get weird places than this.
645
00:31:34.130 --> 00:31:35.569
Right, right. Yeah, yeah.
646
00:31:36.150 --> 00:31:37.609
Yeah, he just does it so casually.
647
00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:40.650
Yeah. And then he's just sitting in the tub and
648
00:31:40.670 --> 00:31:44.920
he's like, he's talking to his unborn son, right? And
649
00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:47.859
he's like, this is who I was, right? That's his
650
00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:51.099
whole reason for this video, right? Like, I want you
651
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.210
to see the man I was. And then he starts
652
00:31:53.670 --> 00:31:56.849
pantomiming with an imaginary baby.
653
00:31:57.529 --> 00:31:58.289
The buddy, yeah.
654
00:31:58.329 --> 00:32:02.150
The buddy, yeah, because he calls him buddy. And he
655
00:32:02.269 --> 00:32:07.019
picks him up, puts him in the tub. This movie, again,
656
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:08.200
what's this guy's name?
657
00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:09.700
Joseph.
658
00:32:10.339 --> 00:32:11.140
What's the actor's name?
659
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:12.859
Oh, Mark Duplass. Mark Duplass.
660
00:32:13.339 --> 00:32:16.920
Mark Duplass carries this fucking movie on his goddamn shoulders.
661
00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:18.359
Yeah, he does.
662
00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:21.319
Just starting with this scene because it's just so unhinged.
663
00:32:21.869 --> 00:32:22.890
It is the weirdest shit.
664
00:32:22.910 --> 00:32:23.910
It's the weirdest shit.
665
00:32:24.009 --> 00:32:26.349
And it's so good because it's weird.
666
00:32:26.849 --> 00:32:27.009
Yeah.
667
00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:30.450
And the unhinged just really just starts here and just continues.
668
00:32:31.230 --> 00:32:31.470
Yeah.
669
00:32:33.650 --> 00:32:37.609
Yes. But after that whole thing, Joseph realizes how awkward
670
00:32:37.650 --> 00:32:39.930
things are getting. So he suggests they go out for
671
00:32:39.970 --> 00:32:43.269
a walk. But when Aaron grabs his coat, he immediately
672
00:32:43.289 --> 00:32:45.890
gets jump scared by a freaky wolf mask. And our
673
00:32:45.950 --> 00:32:48.529
host uses this as an opportunity to tell Buddy about
674
00:32:48.630 --> 00:32:49.529
Peach Fuzz the wolf.
675
00:32:49.940 --> 00:32:52.660
Yeah, so there's just, yeah, there's a random wolf mask
676
00:32:52.740 --> 00:32:56.220
in the closet right by the door. And what's he,
677
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:00.940
he gives some bullshit speech about, like, his dad came
678
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.529
up with a character or something, and it was named
679
00:33:03.619 --> 00:33:04.309
Peach Fuzz.
680
00:33:04.329 --> 00:33:05.529
Mm-hmm, yep.
681
00:33:05.569 --> 00:33:06.170
Or some shit.
682
00:33:06.390 --> 00:33:08.750
Yeah, it was a character his dad made up, and
683
00:33:08.789 --> 00:33:11.490
then he does this whole, like, song and dance, but
684
00:33:11.990 --> 00:33:14.349
the mask is probably so creepy, I think kids would
685
00:33:14.369 --> 00:33:16.549
rather just run and hide from it than, you know, like,
686
00:33:17.069 --> 00:33:21.490
It's very much Five Nights at Freddy's kind of mask. Yeah,
687
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.079
it's not like an actual design for children. Clearly, the
688
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.539
kids are not supposed to see this. It's like a
689
00:33:26.579 --> 00:33:28.740
Halloween haunted house mask.
690
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.059
Yeah, it's good.
691
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.279
But anyways, getting back on task with the fresh air,
692
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.240
Joseph takes them out to a trail and then explains
693
00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:40.660
to Buddy that they're looking for a certain body of
694
00:33:40.700 --> 00:33:43.630
water rumored to have healing properties for those who are
695
00:33:43.690 --> 00:33:46.180
pure of heart. But if you thought this was going
696
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.400
to be a normal hike, you haven't been paying attention.
697
00:33:49.299 --> 00:33:52.740
Joseph randomly just takes off into the woods as a
698
00:33:52.779 --> 00:33:57.380
means to give Heron just a heart-stopping jump scare. And then, frankly,
699
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.019
for some BS nonsensical point about how there's an animal
700
00:34:01.140 --> 00:34:04.220
or little baby peach fuzz inside of our trusty cameraman.
701
00:34:04.829 --> 00:34:08.650
Yeah, this whole thing, we got a lot to unpack
702
00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:09.349
right here.
703
00:34:09.369 --> 00:34:13.289
Yeah, this scene is bizarre. Like he's filming him, you know,
704
00:34:13.449 --> 00:34:14.210
and then all of a sudden.
705
00:34:16.309 --> 00:34:18.409
I'm going to get the names mixed up because... Joseph
706
00:34:18.449 --> 00:34:20.030
and Aaron. Aaron's our cameraman.
707
00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:21.409
Yeah, Aaron's the cameraman.
708
00:34:21.849 --> 00:34:25.550
Joseph just runs off into the fucking woods. And then
709
00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:29.750
Aaron's just... And we, as the audience, too, are just like, okay,
710
00:34:29.849 --> 00:34:32.469
I guess, is he going to follow him? Like, what's
711
00:34:32.510 --> 00:34:33.030
he going on?
712
00:34:33.260 --> 00:34:35.539
My thought is, oh, is this where he tries to
713
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.260
kill him? I guess that's what I go to.
714
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:39.239
That could be, yeah.
715
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.920
Yeah. I'm just waiting for the shoe to drop this
716
00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:44.119
whole movie at this point, you know, like, cause I
717
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.139
know I'm watching a horror movie.
718
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.079
It's like, you know, yeah. And you know, the guy's
719
00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:48.940
full of shit, but you also want to kind of
720
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:50.800
see what the outcome is. Right.
721
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.019
Just like, you kind of want to get strung along
722
00:34:53.059 --> 00:34:55.019
a little bit just to see where it goes. Yeah.
723
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.860
But you don't want to go too far as, as evidenced, but, uh, yeah,
724
00:34:59.969 --> 00:35:04.809
he just, okay. So there's, this guy's already full of shit. Right.
725
00:35:04.909 --> 00:35:08.190
Because he's like, oh, there's this lake with healing properties
726
00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:10.050
or some shit. Aren't they in California somewhere?
727
00:35:10.610 --> 00:35:11.389
Yep. Yep.
728
00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:14.309
Just in the middle of town somewhere in some town
729
00:35:14.329 --> 00:35:14.949
of California.
730
00:35:15.449 --> 00:35:15.530
Yeah.
731
00:35:15.570 --> 00:35:17.150
And there's a lake with healing properties.
732
00:35:17.349 --> 00:35:20.050
There is like, you know, a big old lake, you know,
733
00:35:20.150 --> 00:35:24.199
Lake Gregory or something like that. So, you know, it's
734
00:35:24.219 --> 00:35:26.940
not too far fetched to think there might be some
735
00:35:26.980 --> 00:35:29.340
water out here, but he says he heard about it
736
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.949
from some cool lady from a taco truck or something
737
00:35:32.969 --> 00:35:33.510
like that. Yeah.
738
00:35:33.530 --> 00:35:37.469
Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like the. the heart of the
739
00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:40.369
water of life or something. I don't know, some bullshit
740
00:35:40.389 --> 00:35:40.849
he made up.
741
00:35:40.869 --> 00:35:45.409
Yeah, the miracle of the heart of, yeah, miracle, heart, water, life.
742
00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:47.300
So you know he's full of shit, but you're also
743
00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:49.030
kind of like, all right, well, let's just go see it.
744
00:35:49.579 --> 00:35:52.739
Right. I don't know. See what this idiot, yeah, let's
745
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:53.340
see where this goes.
746
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:55.460
Yeah, this guy, oh, it's so weird.
747
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.019
But it was all just for a jump scare, you know,
748
00:35:57.059 --> 00:35:59.639
just so he could go and jump out and give
749
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.980
him some weird, like, life lesson about, like, wow, that
750
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:04.719
was an near-death experience. How do you feel about that?
751
00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:05.360
It's crazy, huh?
752
00:36:05.849 --> 00:36:08.559
Yeah, I mean, that's how unhinged this guy is right
753
00:36:08.579 --> 00:36:11.719
from the get, because it kind of looks like there's
754
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:15.300
a drop-off. So Aaron, for a second, almost thinks that
755
00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:17.760
he probably fell off the cliff or something, and then
756
00:36:17.780 --> 00:36:21.909
he just jump scares him. And just from that, and
757
00:36:21.949 --> 00:36:25.829
especially with it being found footage type, you get the
758
00:36:25.869 --> 00:36:29.039
impression of how much of an asshole this guy is, right?
759
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.750
Just to do some shit like that, to be like, Oh,
760
00:36:31.750 --> 00:36:34.210
you got to relish the experience, man. It's a rush,
761
00:36:34.250 --> 00:36:35.329
you know, like, fuck you.
762
00:36:35.670 --> 00:36:35.969
Right.
763
00:36:36.230 --> 00:36:40.929
You know, so, um, yeah, just again, this movie, just
764
00:36:41.190 --> 00:36:43.349
get your hooks into it. It's hooks into it. Cause
765
00:36:44.929 --> 00:36:47.130
I got to know what, what this guy is going
766
00:36:47.150 --> 00:36:47.730
to do next.
767
00:36:48.750 --> 00:36:52.329
And you gotta also like put yourself in Aaron's shoes
768
00:36:52.369 --> 00:36:54.090
a little bit. And, you know, we're watching the movie
769
00:36:54.110 --> 00:36:55.710
and we know this is a horror movie, but Aaron
770
00:36:55.730 --> 00:36:57.650
thinks he's helping a guy who has two months left
771
00:36:57.670 --> 00:36:57.989
to live.
772
00:36:58.309 --> 00:36:58.510
Right.
773
00:36:58.829 --> 00:37:00.530
So that's why he's putting up with a lot of
774
00:37:00.570 --> 00:37:01.710
bullshit right now. Right.
775
00:37:02.949 --> 00:37:06.099
Yeah, his bullshit detector is kind of going off, but
776
00:37:06.139 --> 00:37:07.920
he's also in it to win it at this point
777
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.219
because he's trying to document this, right?
778
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.000
Right. He's already been paid $ 1, 000, you know, hefty sum.
779
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.469
And then, you know, like this guy is desperately, he
780
00:37:17.510 --> 00:37:20.610
seemingly desperately needs this to happen. You know, he's on
781
00:37:20.730 --> 00:37:27.750
a really short clock. But anyways, during the super normal hike,
782
00:37:28.329 --> 00:37:31.489
Joseph asks if Aaron has anyone he wants to make
783
00:37:31.550 --> 00:37:34.630
peace with before he goes, and then he mishears an
784
00:37:34.730 --> 00:37:38.429
answer of an X as an axe, and then like
785
00:37:38.769 --> 00:37:41.030
an expression of having an axe to grind. So then
786
00:37:41.170 --> 00:37:45.090
Joe asks if Aaron thought Joe might use his woodcutting
787
00:37:45.230 --> 00:37:47.070
axe to kill him whenever he first saw it, and
788
00:37:47.789 --> 00:37:50.190
Aaron admits that he did, but reassures that it was
789
00:37:50.230 --> 00:37:51.610
before they got to know each other, and he doesn't
790
00:37:51.630 --> 00:37:52.489
think that now, of course.
791
00:37:52.969 --> 00:37:56.070
Yeah, that whole exchange is weird as fuck, too. Take
792
00:37:56.110 --> 00:37:56.349
a drink.
793
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:02.030
Chekhov's axe, perhaps, right? It's like, what's going on with that, huh?
794
00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:05.599
But just how casual he brings it up and just
795
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.179
how weird of an exchange it is. You know, like,
796
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.780
there's just something not right about this guy, but now
797
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.820
Aaron is, he's slowly getting pulled in. And we as
798
00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:17.900
the audience are also getting pulled in, so.
799
00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:22.110
Yeah, and he's so, and we've called him weird a lot, and,
800
00:38:22.179 --> 00:38:24.179
you know, that's mostly what we're focusing on, but I
801
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.119
don't think we've done enough justice to describe just how
802
00:38:27.300 --> 00:38:29.820
freaking charismatic this guy is too. And like, you just
803
00:38:29.860 --> 00:38:32.179
cannot like you're hanging on every word he says, and
804
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:35.500
he's drawn you into these conversations. And so he's equal
805
00:38:35.539 --> 00:38:37.340
parts charismatic as he is weird.
806
00:38:37.710 --> 00:38:44.050
Yeah. He, he's like charismatically authentically weird. Right. And it's,
807
00:38:44.489 --> 00:38:47.250
it's a great concept for a movie because again, it
808
00:38:47.289 --> 00:38:49.489
looks like it didn't cost them anything really to make it,
809
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.940
but the, the qualities in the writing and the acting.
810
00:38:53.349 --> 00:38:55.469
Yeah, and I think you nailed it perfectly earlier when
811
00:38:55.510 --> 00:38:58.300
you said that, like, Mark Duplass carries this movie. He
812
00:38:58.719 --> 00:38:59.610
absolutely does.
813
00:38:59.699 --> 00:38:59.889
Yeah.
814
00:39:00.050 --> 00:39:02.000
And I couldn't imagine another person in this role, really.
815
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.340
No disrespect to Aaron, because he's also excellent, too. But
816
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:10.219
I'm just saying, for the creepy guy, you know, damn,
817
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:11.139
well done.
818
00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:13.179
For the creep in the movie called Creep, like, you
819
00:39:13.219 --> 00:39:16.760
couldn't have done better. No. You know, and that's not to, like...
820
00:39:17.489 --> 00:39:19.010
poo-poo on Mark Duplass.
821
00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:19.489
Not at all.
822
00:39:19.610 --> 00:39:21.110
To celebrate him, if anything.
823
00:39:21.349 --> 00:39:24.800
Yeah, these two guys, they co-created this. We haven't talked
824
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.710
about that really at all, but the actors in the
825
00:39:27.750 --> 00:39:30.559
film are also the writers and the directors. right?
826
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.679
Yeah, yeah, the Patrick Bryce, I want to say his
827
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:38.099
name is, is the director and Aaron, the cameraman, and
828
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.500
Mark Duplass plays Joseph, and both of them wrote this
829
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:43.340
movie together as well.
830
00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:45.340
Yeah, this is the stuff we always talk about on
831
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.909
the show of, you know, productions that are made in
832
00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:53.530
uh by people with coming up with ideas on their
833
00:39:53.590 --> 00:39:56.389
own you know like it it's so good to.
834
00:39:56.349 --> 00:40:00.329
See honestly and like i i think that's why he
835
00:40:00.530 --> 00:40:03.369
is so well cast because it was literally handcrafted and
836
00:40:03.409 --> 00:40:04.929
curated for for them.
837
00:40:04.989 --> 00:40:07.539
Yeah this is why back rooms and obsession and stuff
838
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.940
like that are trending and taking off because this is
839
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:13.260
the stuff that people want to see you could do
840
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.510
this today as a youtube series as a narrative youtube
841
00:40:17.530 --> 00:40:20.449
series and get like the same type of effect right
842
00:40:20.489 --> 00:40:24.929
because it's just uh it's all in the character so
843
00:40:25.949 --> 00:40:26.510
good shit.
844
00:40:26.369 --> 00:40:31.969
I agree yeah but um let's see oh yes uh
845
00:40:31.989 --> 00:40:34.840
so after he reassures him that you know i thought
846
00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:35.920
you were gonna kill me but that was before we
847
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.099
knew each other but after several twists and turns who
848
00:40:39.139 --> 00:40:42.800
does that bad guy But yeah, after several twists and turns,
849
00:40:42.860 --> 00:40:46.219
Joe finds a sign for a sewer line. So Aaron
850
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.889
asks if he even knows where they are.
851
00:40:47.929 --> 00:40:49.449
He's like, what does he say?
852
00:40:49.489 --> 00:40:51.710
He's like, oh yeah, there's, there's a marker.
853
00:40:51.730 --> 00:40:52.550
There's direction.
854
00:40:52.570 --> 00:40:54.170
He's like, I guess it's sewer line.
855
00:40:54.309 --> 00:40:56.329
Yeah. That was funny.
856
00:40:56.710 --> 00:40:59.409
This, this movie was so damn funny too. Yeah. He's like,
857
00:40:59.889 --> 00:41:01.190
he's like, oh, there's a sign.
858
00:41:01.610 --> 00:41:02.329
Miracle waters.
859
00:41:02.389 --> 00:41:05.130
Here we come. He reads the sign and he says,
860
00:41:05.150 --> 00:41:08.309
it says sewer pipeline. He's like, oh, it's just shit water. Yeah.
861
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:12.059
Oh, man, that's good.
862
00:41:12.539 --> 00:41:16.760
Yeah, I love that. That was so funny. But, yeah,
863
00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:18.360
he admits that he doesn't know where they are, and
864
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.650
then he sees the sign and then just.
865
00:41:23.570 --> 00:41:25.150
Well, that's when he, yeah, that's when he finds out.
866
00:41:25.170 --> 00:41:27.650
He's just like, well, we just got to go back.
867
00:41:27.690 --> 00:41:29.750
He's like, well, good luck. I don't know how to
868
00:41:29.789 --> 00:41:31.530
get back. He's like, what? He's like.
869
00:41:31.750 --> 00:41:32.750
Without a care in the world.
870
00:41:33.090 --> 00:41:35.849
We've been taking all these twists and turns, and we're lost.
871
00:41:35.869 --> 00:41:38.190
He's like, well, we've got to keep moving forward. You've
872
00:41:38.210 --> 00:41:38.909
got to go forward.
873
00:41:38.929 --> 00:41:40.300
Yeah, that's how you find the miracle, man.
874
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:40.570
Right.
875
00:41:40.590 --> 00:41:44.469
Yeah. So then he just, like, races off again, you know,
876
00:41:44.510 --> 00:41:47.389
jumps ahead. And then this time, though, it turns out
877
00:41:47.429 --> 00:41:51.670
he actually did find a heart-shaped hole in the rocks below.
878
00:41:51.769 --> 00:41:54.610
So they go down for a quick dip in the waters.
879
00:41:55.250 --> 00:41:56.590
But he actually did find it. He wasn't full of
880
00:41:56.610 --> 00:41:58.070
shit about this heart rock. Yeah, it looks like it's
881
00:41:58.130 --> 00:41:58.909
very surprising.
882
00:41:58.989 --> 00:42:02.389
It looks like a giant skull or something almost, like,
883
00:42:02.739 --> 00:42:04.280
is what I kind of look like. It looked like
884
00:42:04.739 --> 00:42:06.840
there was, like, the heart down there, and it kind of,
885
00:42:06.860 --> 00:42:09.039
there was, like, an eyepiece almost up there. I don't know.
886
00:42:09.460 --> 00:42:11.059
Hey, we're actually about ready to see it in our
887
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.260
background here, so I'll weigh in here in a moment
888
00:42:14.300 --> 00:42:15.000
whenever we get there.
889
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.800
But it does look like a heart.
890
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.530
Yeah, there is definitively a heart. I haven't looked at
891
00:42:22.570 --> 00:42:26.230
the wider picture of it to try to analyze it,
892
00:42:26.230 --> 00:42:27.550
see if there's a skull or anything, though.
893
00:42:27.570 --> 00:42:29.329
I don't know.
894
00:42:29.369 --> 00:42:32.900
He's coming up on it right now. He's... going over
895
00:42:32.940 --> 00:42:34.980
the cliff side. Hold on. I'm getting to be giving
896
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:36.219
you some play by play.
897
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.699
It reminded me of like the, the giant skulls and
898
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:39.760
like breath of the wild.
899
00:42:39.860 --> 00:42:42.610
Maybe he's pointing down. He's looking.
900
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.409
Yeah. I don't know. It looks like, yeah, it kind
901
00:42:45.449 --> 00:42:47.570
of looks like the heart might be like kind of
902
00:42:47.610 --> 00:42:50.070
the nose and there's the other hole that looks like,
903
00:42:50.510 --> 00:42:52.170
or the rock there. It looks like an eye. I
904
00:42:52.210 --> 00:42:54.969
don't know. You could, you'd be like a skull skull
905
00:42:55.030 --> 00:42:57.460
rock or something. I could see it, but the fact
906
00:42:57.579 --> 00:42:59.519
that it exists and he brought him here to see
907
00:42:59.579 --> 00:43:01.980
it though, um, is awfully suspicious.
908
00:43:02.750 --> 00:43:06.610
Right, right. It was almost assuredly going to be just
909
00:43:06.650 --> 00:43:10.570
some random self-seeking adventure, but no, he actually found a spot. So, yeah,
910
00:43:10.590 --> 00:43:15.139
they go down there for their quick dip. But after
911
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.800
some more forced weirdness from Joe, like an impromptu baptism
912
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:20.840
and more hugging.
913
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.559
Well, yeah, and how weird is it to see, because
914
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:26.320
this is the first couple of times that we see
915
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:34.619
the camera perspective on Aaron. So Joe has taken the
916
00:43:35.059 --> 00:43:40.500
camera and he's filming the cameraman. That's weird, isn't it?
917
00:43:41.349 --> 00:43:45.909
It just starts to get weird. They're having this little
918
00:43:46.369 --> 00:43:55.030
bonding moment in these waters. In these healing waters. It's weird,
919
00:43:55.460 --> 00:43:58.420
especially because we're kind of watching the movie in the background,
920
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.960
so this is My rewatch now. So I'm looking at
921
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.369
it differently and I'm like, how how creepy is it?
922
00:44:05.449 --> 00:44:05.750
You know?
923
00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:07.650
Yeah. And Aaron just looks like he doesn't want to
924
00:44:07.670 --> 00:44:08.050
be there.
925
00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:10.510
Like, no, but he's he's in it to win it
926
00:44:10.530 --> 00:44:15.289
at this point. So that's, you know, he's gone too far.
927
00:44:15.389 --> 00:44:19.889
And then they immediately cut to them in a restaurant.
928
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.239
Yeah, yeah, after the more weirdness and hugging, the host
929
00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:28.050
offers to buy them supposedly the greatest pancakes ever. Yeah,
930
00:44:28.190 --> 00:44:30.090
that's what it was. Yeah, we pick up the pair
931
00:44:30.210 --> 00:44:30.730
at a diner.
932
00:44:31.989 --> 00:44:32.190
Yeah.
933
00:44:34.150 --> 00:44:35.949
Yeah, so then they go to the diner, and he
934
00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:39.389
says these are supposedly the greatest pancakes ever, right? But
935
00:44:39.409 --> 00:44:42.690
whenever they get there, Joe openly kind of ponders, hey,
936
00:44:42.769 --> 00:44:47.000
what's good at this restaurant? What's good? Which immediately doesn't
937
00:44:47.059 --> 00:44:50.559
add up to Aaron, but Joseph quickly explains, like, hey,
938
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.659
you know, they just changed the menus. They just changed it, right?
939
00:44:53.780 --> 00:44:57.409
So more bullshit is already just like flying left and right.
940
00:44:58.570 --> 00:45:01.750
More importantly, though, Joe gets the two of them to
941
00:45:01.889 --> 00:45:05.230
confess something that they're ashamed of. And Aaron describes an
942
00:45:05.309 --> 00:45:09.809
embarrassing pants-pissing incident while the host shows a series of
943
00:45:09.989 --> 00:45:13.869
stalkerish photos of Aaron whenever he first arrives. But the
944
00:45:13.889 --> 00:45:17.099
cameraman has now gotten to know Joseph, so he says, again,
945
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.099
it's fine, which noticeably reassures Joe.
946
00:45:21.139 --> 00:45:26.590
The, the pants pissing story is fucking crazy. First off. Yeah.
947
00:45:26.670 --> 00:45:28.389
Do you want to walk through that for a second?
948
00:45:28.429 --> 00:45:31.369
Like it's, it's, I feel like it's.
949
00:45:31.309 --> 00:45:35.929
Either completely improvised or incredibly scripted and rehearsed to be,
950
00:45:36.429 --> 00:45:39.630
to sound natural and improvised. But the basic gist of
951
00:45:39.710 --> 00:45:45.269
it is he gets the cameraman to confess about the
952
00:45:45.309 --> 00:45:49.300
time that he used to piss his pants and, And
953
00:45:49.340 --> 00:45:52.539
so his mom bought this thing through mail order that
954
00:45:52.579 --> 00:45:56.659
was like a wire that went down to his pants,
955
00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.050
and it would set off an alarm.
956
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:00.429
Yes.
957
00:46:00.530 --> 00:46:02.489
Which is fucking crazy.
958
00:46:02.510 --> 00:46:05.929
Yeah, and it sounded off in the middle of a
959
00:46:05.969 --> 00:46:07.250
playground with all of his friends.
960
00:46:07.289 --> 00:46:10.309
Yeah, because he was like, I'm hanging on the monkey bars,
961
00:46:11.050 --> 00:46:14.429
and I really had to pee, but I didn't want
962
00:46:14.449 --> 00:46:16.110
to go, and I just started pissing, and then the
963
00:46:16.170 --> 00:46:17.219
alarm's going off.
964
00:46:18.010 --> 00:46:20.630
And that was the first time I felt shame.
965
00:46:20.909 --> 00:46:21.170
Yeah.
966
00:46:21.389 --> 00:46:24.150
Which feels like a deeply personal thing to share, right?
967
00:46:24.489 --> 00:46:27.289
It does. And the fact that he gets him to
968
00:46:27.429 --> 00:46:33.769
open up and talk about something so incredibly traumatic is
969
00:46:33.989 --> 00:46:37.510
insane to me. Again, that's how I kept getting sucked
970
00:46:37.550 --> 00:46:42.769
into this movie because it just keeps getting more unhinged.
971
00:46:43.309 --> 00:46:46.210
Yeah, it was like right after he was already like, Wait,
972
00:46:46.550 --> 00:46:48.559
so you don't know what's good at this restaurant you've
973
00:46:48.579 --> 00:46:51.719
been coming to for years? And so, again, disarming is
974
00:46:51.739 --> 00:46:53.079
the only word I can think of where he just
975
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:56.719
uses his charisma and disarms him. Yeah, then he's super
976
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:04.469
vulnerable right after that. So well done. But, yeah, after that.
977
00:47:04.550 --> 00:47:07.369
And the pictures. Yeah, I'm sorry. Where he admits taking
978
00:47:07.389 --> 00:47:08.510
the pictures of him, too, is weird.
979
00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:11.639
Right, and after that, I was expecting something kind of
980
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.039
personal from the creep to share, but then he does this,
981
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.500
and it's like, oh, my God. Just when you think
982
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:20.179
you can't get any more weird, he was just so
983
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:21.900
much weirder from the start than we even knew.
984
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.900
But on a rewatch, this hits different.
985
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:27.099
Yeah, it does.
986
00:47:27.219 --> 00:47:27.960
A lot of stuff does.
987
00:47:28.300 --> 00:47:30.579
I think it's one of these photos that he uses
988
00:47:31.059 --> 00:47:34.940
later for a different picture, so keep this series of
989
00:47:34.980 --> 00:47:43.349
photos in the back of your mind. But anyways, let's see. Oh, yeah.
990
00:47:43.389 --> 00:47:45.909
So after that, we go back home. And before entering
991
00:47:45.929 --> 00:47:49.070
the house, Aaron decides it's late. You know, it's obviously
992
00:47:49.090 --> 00:47:52.440
visibly dark at this point. So Aaron decides he's going
993
00:47:52.460 --> 00:47:55.619
to go home. But Joe really twists his arm and
994
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:58.639
gets him to go inside for just one drink. Naturally,
995
00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:01.980
the host starts acting super weird and tries to force
996
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.380
Aaron into accepting financial assistance. But he's not having any
997
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.099
of that and tries to leave, which Joe clearly can't have.
998
00:48:09.179 --> 00:48:12.039
So he breaks out the big guns and admits, I
999
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:13.480
lied about peach fuzz.
1000
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:16.559
Man.
1001
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.239
Yeah, we got to unpack another couple of things.
1002
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.519
Just from the get where he's like, I was hoping
1003
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.800
you'd come up to have a whiskey.
1004
00:48:24.860 --> 00:48:25.800
I could pour you a whiskey.
1005
00:48:26.030 --> 00:48:27.570
Like, fuck no.
1006
00:48:27.619 --> 00:48:29.730
Get the hell out. I know. And he's so pushy.
1007
00:48:29.769 --> 00:48:30.889
He does not take no for an answer.
1008
00:48:34.739 --> 00:48:37.380
Right. And like, again, I got to bring it up. Like,
1009
00:48:38.219 --> 00:48:40.260
you feel really bad because as far as you know,
1010
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.260
this guy's like two months left to live. He's got
1011
00:48:43.300 --> 00:48:45.280
to feel so bad for this guy. You know, he
1012
00:48:45.300 --> 00:48:47.679
just looks so pathetic sometimes, honestly.
1013
00:48:48.610 --> 00:48:51.409
Yeah, but this cameraman just took this for a gig. Like,
1014
00:48:51.690 --> 00:48:55.130
I mean, as a self-employed person, you could cease doing
1015
00:48:55.190 --> 00:48:56.670
business with someone at any point.
1016
00:48:57.070 --> 00:48:57.369
Yeah.
1017
00:48:57.809 --> 00:48:59.989
And clearly at this point, like, there's a lot of
1018
00:49:00.030 --> 00:49:03.739
red flags here. Like, I'd be like, have a good day.
1019
00:49:04.179 --> 00:49:06.199
No pun intended, but he's just got a big heart,
1020
00:49:06.260 --> 00:49:08.099
I guess. I don't know.
1021
00:49:08.460 --> 00:49:11.519
He's easily manipulated, I guess, because this guy is a
1022
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:12.590
master manipulator.
1023
00:49:13.750 --> 00:49:21.500
That, I have no arguments. No questions here. Yeah, so
1024
00:49:22.940 --> 00:49:26.260
he goes on about like a whole financial assistance thing,
1025
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.539
which I feel like is, you know, that seems whatever.
1026
00:49:30.059 --> 00:49:33.349
Just tries to do a little bit more manipulation. But
1027
00:49:33.389 --> 00:49:38.210
I think, yeah, this next part is so... that whenever
1028
00:49:38.230 --> 00:49:39.849
he says, I lied about peach fuzz.
1029
00:49:41.449 --> 00:49:46.150
Yeah. Because what does he mean? You know this guy's
1030
00:49:46.190 --> 00:49:48.010
full of shit, but you also want to see where
1031
00:49:48.070 --> 00:49:50.170
it goes. And that's the dangerous part.
1032
00:49:50.670 --> 00:49:53.489
I know. Yeah, that's the thing. Even as an audience member,
1033
00:49:53.510 --> 00:49:57.590
you're telling them, you're actively saying, just leave. But the
1034
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.440
back of your head, you're just curious. That morbid curiosity
1035
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:01.079
is creeping in.
1036
00:50:01.300 --> 00:50:04.239
That happened to us. I mean, it was just like,
1037
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:06.949
I was weird, but I kind of wanted to, Like,
1038
00:50:06.969 --> 00:50:08.889
see where it goes, but you don't want to push
1039
00:50:08.909 --> 00:50:09.309
too far.
1040
00:50:09.809 --> 00:50:12.010
Yeah, he's got this orbit that you kind of get
1041
00:50:12.150 --> 00:50:17.690
caught in. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Very, very well done. But yeah,
1042
00:50:18.349 --> 00:50:20.510
what did he lie about Peach Fuzz? So as we're saying,
1043
00:50:20.530 --> 00:50:23.030
let's find out. Yeah, what does that mean? Yeah, so
1044
00:50:23.050 --> 00:50:25.849
he asked the cameraman to turn off the recording because
1045
00:50:26.010 --> 00:50:28.409
what he has to say isn't for Buddy or, frankly,
1046
00:50:28.590 --> 00:50:32.519
any other human being, in my opinion. But nonetheless, Joseph
1047
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:37.130
then describes the most uncomfortable encounter ever while Aaron secretly
1048
00:50:37.349 --> 00:50:41.989
continues to record it. Joseph alleges that he found his wife, Angela.
1049
00:50:43.469 --> 00:50:46.980
She was looking up some weird animal stuff online, if
1050
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.179
you catch my drift, some inappropriate animal stuff online. So
1051
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.320
as a means to resolve some of their marital issues
1052
00:50:54.380 --> 00:51:00.099
that caused, he donned the peach fuzz mask for some
1053
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.340
staged anonymous sexual encounters.
1054
00:51:03.940 --> 00:51:07.170
And the way he describes it is like, no that's
1055
00:51:07.469 --> 00:51:10.230
that's incredibly unhinged right there too where he's like uh
1056
00:51:11.530 --> 00:51:15.650
uh it's almost like it's like listening to napoleon dynamite
1057
00:51:15.690 --> 00:51:18.559
describe it or something because he's like we had we
1058
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:25.579
had animalistic sexual encounters it's like who refers to it
1059
00:51:25.659 --> 00:51:26.320
like that.
1060
00:51:26.179 --> 00:51:27.920
Like clinical as hell isn't it.
1061
00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:30.969
It's like is this anchorman like what am i watching
1062
00:51:31.010 --> 00:51:36.849
like we had realistic, animalistic sexual encounters. 60% of the time,
1063
00:51:36.869 --> 00:51:38.030
it works every time.
1064
00:51:38.889 --> 00:51:41.230
Man, I could just see Ron Burgundy, like a fan
1065
00:51:41.269 --> 00:51:43.630
edit of Ron Burgundy through some of these scenes. That
1066
00:51:43.670 --> 00:51:45.210
would be fucking gut-busting.
1067
00:51:45.510 --> 00:51:46.389
Yeah, yeah.
1068
00:51:46.650 --> 00:51:48.989
But you're right. Yeah, it's just like the way he
1069
00:51:49.030 --> 00:51:52.639
says it is also just like in a weird, strange,
1070
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:53.920
unique way.
1071
00:51:53.940 --> 00:51:57.500
The way that no one talks, but like in a
1072
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.719
weirdly eloquent sort of creepy way.
1073
00:52:00.989 --> 00:52:05.639
Yeah, it's, like, casual, eloquent, and very, like, clinical and matter-of-fact.
1074
00:52:05.969 --> 00:52:10.219
Yeah. Like, clinical is a good way to put it. Like,
1075
00:52:10.420 --> 00:52:12.480
surgical almost, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
1076
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:18.559
Yeah, so that is just absolutely freaking crazy weird, right?
1077
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:23.750
But almost jarringly, the video then cuts to, like, the
1078
00:52:23.789 --> 00:52:27.210
host doing just a really forced goodbye, like, closing segment.
1079
00:52:28.059 --> 00:52:31.449
And then Aaron starts getting visibly frustrated in the background
1080
00:52:31.550 --> 00:52:33.690
for not being able to find his keys, which were
1081
00:52:33.730 --> 00:52:37.090
in his coat. Joe then pitches that Aaron stays the
1082
00:52:37.130 --> 00:52:41.110
night by claiming he's above the legal limit. Plus, they'll
1083
00:52:41.150 --> 00:52:42.719
surely be able to find the keys in the morning
1084
00:52:42.860 --> 00:52:47.139
whenever there's light. And Aaron relents, so relents deciding that
1085
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:48.739
the roads are dangerous at night anyways.
1086
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.079
No, no, no. A lot of stuff goes wrong in
1087
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:53.519
this scene.
1088
00:52:53.940 --> 00:52:54.280
I know.
1089
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:55.260
Damn.
1090
00:52:55.340 --> 00:52:58.460
I actually, I'm going to do like, I have in
1091
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.760
the notes here to do a check-in with you to
1092
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.070
see kind of like, what did you notice going on
1093
00:53:04.090 --> 00:53:05.690
in the background here?
1094
00:53:05.969 --> 00:53:08.730
There's so many red flags, but if you know somebody
1095
00:53:08.929 --> 00:53:11.670
like this or have experienced something like this, then you're like,
1096
00:53:11.869 --> 00:53:14.429
Oh shit. Okay. I see where this is going. Okay.
1097
00:53:14.809 --> 00:53:17.739
But like he, okay. So when Aaron's looking for his
1098
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:21.750
keys at first, How is it that Joseph is so
1099
00:53:21.929 --> 00:53:26.110
adamant that they were in his coat pocket? Because the
1100
00:53:26.130 --> 00:53:27.409
way he says it, it's like, they were in your
1101
00:53:27.429 --> 00:53:28.909
coat pocket, right?
1102
00:53:28.929 --> 00:53:31.730
Yeah, I actually, you know, whenever I said during this watch,
1103
00:53:31.750 --> 00:53:35.170
I was like, oh, I just realized something. I think,
1104
00:53:35.969 --> 00:53:41.510
this is my theory, I don't have any concrete, specific
1105
00:53:41.650 --> 00:53:43.929
concrete evidence or smoking gun to point to whenever I'm
1106
00:53:43.949 --> 00:53:47.230
saying this, but I think like the 90 fucking forced
1107
00:53:47.269 --> 00:53:49.320
hugs that he's given him throughout the day were a
1108
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.159
means to like feel out his pockets and eventually, you know,
1109
00:53:53.179 --> 00:53:53.940
get his keys from him.
1110
00:53:54.099 --> 00:53:54.280
Yep.
1111
00:53:54.739 --> 00:53:56.099
So I think that's the reason for all that. I
1112
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:57.179
think he, that's at one point.
1113
00:53:57.219 --> 00:53:57.960
Or ID or wallet.
1114
00:53:57.980 --> 00:53:59.280
Nabbed his keys and stuff.
1115
00:53:59.320 --> 00:53:59.820
Yeah.
1116
00:54:00.380 --> 00:54:00.619
Yeah.
1117
00:54:01.179 --> 00:54:03.829
Very much so. I was also thinking like, okay, when
1118
00:54:03.849 --> 00:54:07.710
would he have grabbed them? You know, maybe when they
1119
00:54:07.750 --> 00:54:10.389
went swimming, you know, like when?
1120
00:54:11.809 --> 00:54:14.030
I mean, he did so many of those different hugs. Yeah.
1121
00:54:14.050 --> 00:54:14.909
It could have been.
1122
00:54:14.750 --> 00:54:17.230
Really any of them. But he was so definitive in
1123
00:54:17.289 --> 00:54:20.340
his answer in, like, they were in your coat pocket, right?
1124
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.340
That's where I took them from. In order to cast
1125
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:24.880
off suspicion from himself.
1126
00:54:25.460 --> 00:54:25.659
Right.
1127
00:54:25.739 --> 00:54:28.159
You know, and it's like, huh, that's awfully suspicious.
1128
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:30.519
How did you know? Because that's where he grabbed it from,
1129
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:31.179
you son of a bitch.
1130
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:35.190
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's just. And
1131
00:54:35.210 --> 00:54:39.730
then Aaron relents then finally. He gets easily worn down.
1132
00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:47.889
by Joseph's weird charisma, that then he's just like, all right, okay, yeah,
1133
00:54:47.909 --> 00:54:48.329
we'll stay.
1134
00:54:48.769 --> 00:54:51.250
All right. Yeah, I guess the roads are dangerous at night,
1135
00:54:51.329 --> 00:54:52.670
so I'll stay.
1136
00:54:52.730 --> 00:54:54.050
He doesn't put up much of a fight.
1137
00:54:54.829 --> 00:54:59.030
No, he doesn't. But before I read on, did you
1138
00:54:59.150 --> 00:55:01.010
catch any sneaky detail?
1139
00:55:01.929 --> 00:55:06.340
Sneaky detail? You're talking before he pours him the drinks? Yeah.
1140
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:14.690
Let's see. Between the keys and... No, I'm trying to think.
1141
00:55:14.909 --> 00:55:15.929
Nothing really stood out.
1142
00:55:16.590 --> 00:55:16.909
All right.
1143
00:55:16.949 --> 00:55:17.809
Did I miss something?
1144
00:55:17.849 --> 00:55:21.250
Well, let me read on here then. So, yeah. But
1145
00:55:21.269 --> 00:55:25.159
Aaron is still sneakily in this fight here because he
1146
00:55:25.300 --> 00:55:29.340
slipped something in a really big glass of whiskey that
1147
00:55:29.420 --> 00:55:32.679
he gives Joe, but he only poured himself a small amount.
1148
00:55:32.940 --> 00:55:35.639
And it's right as Joseph had turned around. For just
1149
00:55:35.699 --> 00:55:38.269
a moment, you see Aaron... Take something out of his
1150
00:55:38.289 --> 00:55:40.489
coat pocket before he pours the glass. Actually, go ahead
1151
00:55:40.510 --> 00:55:42.030
and pause the record. I want to play this back
1152
00:55:42.050 --> 00:55:42.289
for you.
1153
00:55:44.050 --> 00:55:49.239
Yeah. Okay. So do you think that Joseph knew what
1154
00:55:49.300 --> 00:55:51.099
was in Aaron's pockets then?
1155
00:55:52.269 --> 00:55:55.090
I don't know, because he's, like, seen, like, going, like,
1156
00:55:55.849 --> 00:55:58.789
searching very frantically around the house, and he goes downstairs
1157
00:55:58.829 --> 00:56:01.010
for a little bit while Joseph is still upstairs, you know,
1158
00:56:01.030 --> 00:56:02.809
while he's still in search of his keys. So I think,
1159
00:56:03.349 --> 00:56:04.789
you know, while he's just kind of stomping through the
1160
00:56:04.809 --> 00:56:06.969
house pretty animated, I think that's whenever he would have
1161
00:56:06.989 --> 00:56:09.610
grabbed that, like, just a moment ago after he realized, oh,
1162
00:56:09.630 --> 00:56:12.179
this guy's keeping me here. You know, I'm not going
1163
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:13.429
down without a fight, you know?
1164
00:56:13.469 --> 00:56:14.380
Yeah, true. Yeah, okay.
1165
00:56:14.409 --> 00:56:15.480
Let me play the mouse.
1166
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:18.900
Yeah. Okay, so he's playing the long game.
1167
00:56:19.219 --> 00:56:19.400
Yeah.
1168
00:56:19.619 --> 00:56:20.559
Okay, okay.
1169
00:56:21.130 --> 00:56:23.190
I think it's very subtle, but he definitely drugs him.
1170
00:56:23.210 --> 00:56:25.150
You can see him drug him here. And I think
1171
00:56:25.190 --> 00:56:27.139
he would have just gotten it after, you know, like
1172
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:28.820
I said, just stomping through the house looking for the keys.
1173
00:56:28.989 --> 00:56:31.840
Because he realized, well, the keys were definitely in my coat.
1174
00:56:32.059 --> 00:56:32.280
Yeah.
1175
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:33.619
He would have had to have taken them.
1176
00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:35.900
So was he just carrying these drugs around in his
1177
00:56:35.940 --> 00:56:36.880
pocket then?
1178
00:56:37.780 --> 00:56:39.300
No, I think he got them from his house.
1179
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:41.099
Oh.
1180
00:56:41.139 --> 00:56:42.960
Like while doing the search, is what I'm saying.
1181
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:44.260
Okay.
1182
00:56:44.619 --> 00:56:45.480
Interesting. Yeah.
1183
00:56:45.619 --> 00:56:47.079
Okay. And then now I'm thinking on a rewatch.
1184
00:56:47.099 --> 00:56:48.579
Like Benadryl is like a household drug.
1185
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:49.079
Okay.
1186
00:56:49.099 --> 00:56:49.679
True. Yeah.
1187
00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:50.699
That's fair.
1188
00:56:51.619 --> 00:56:53.539
We found out later it was Benadryl just from some
1189
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.219
other contacts we're given. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a household.
1190
00:56:56.739 --> 00:56:59.559
Basically every house has Benadryl. Makes you sleepy. Yeah.
1191
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.110
I mean, we use it for Mr. Brody sometimes, so yeah.
1192
00:57:03.530 --> 00:57:08.650
I mean, if he was in pain or something. Okay, yeah.
1193
00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:10.949
I didn't put two and two together, but yeah, that
1194
00:57:10.969 --> 00:57:11.869
makes total sense.
1195
00:57:12.429 --> 00:57:17.190
Yeah, so he thinks he's got his prey lured, but
1196
00:57:17.210 --> 00:57:19.090
you know, he's still in the fight. He's still there.
1197
00:57:19.329 --> 00:57:21.929
There's a, there's a back and forth here that kind
1198
00:57:21.989 --> 00:57:24.469
of happens throughout the film. And then it leads me
1199
00:57:24.489 --> 00:57:27.699
to speculate on different things on whether or not, uh,
1200
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.280
you know, maybe certain things were allowed to happen or
1201
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.440
not in order to, uh, facilitate what, what happens. So, right.
1202
00:57:36.059 --> 00:57:40.260
Right. Um, but yes, it is plain works because, uh,
1203
00:57:40.300 --> 00:57:43.300
shortly after like redoing a goodbye take for buddy, uh,
1204
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:46.670
Joe is out cold, dreaming of peach fuzz and perhaps
1205
00:57:46.730 --> 00:57:49.630
his wife. I don't know. He starts touching himself. It's uncomfortable.
1206
00:57:50.050 --> 00:57:54.030
But obviously, Aaron knows Joseph is being very sus, so
1207
00:57:54.429 --> 00:57:56.869
he uses this time to search him while he's asleep.
1208
00:57:57.630 --> 00:58:01.260
But then Joe's phone rings, causing the cameraman to dash
1209
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:04.280
out and quietly take the call in the bathroom. Worst
1210
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:05.159
timing ever.
1211
00:58:05.260 --> 00:58:09.480
It's so good. It's like the loudest vibration, like the
1212
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:11.219
ringers at max volume and shit.
1213
00:58:11.829 --> 00:58:15.329
It's like, that honestly pisses me off. It's like, no,
1214
00:58:15.489 --> 00:58:16.369
that's so good.
1215
00:58:17.750 --> 00:58:20.909
Again, like his, this guy is, he, at this point
1216
00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:28.219
he's passed out asleep on the fireplace in the living room. Right. Like,
1217
00:58:28.260 --> 00:58:33.280
you know, the old, old school, uh, stone built fireplace
1218
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:35.800
was like, uh, the wood over the top of it.
1219
00:58:35.860 --> 00:58:39.949
Like every, every eighties household. Right. Kind of, uh, that mentality,
1220
00:58:40.010 --> 00:58:40.269
I guess.
1221
00:58:40.670 --> 00:58:42.150
Right, so he went down fast, probably.
1222
00:58:42.170 --> 00:58:44.250
He did, yeah. So he's just, like, he's in this
1223
00:58:45.329 --> 00:58:49.760
alcohol Benadryl stupor, right? But, like, is he faking? Is
1224
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.559
he not? I don't know, because this guy's weird. So
1225
00:58:53.219 --> 00:58:54.179
who knows at this point?
1226
00:58:54.579 --> 00:58:56.820
Yeah, like, he keeps you on your toes.
1227
00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:57.219
Yeah.
1228
00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.400
But I do think he is on to the playing
1229
00:58:59.420 --> 00:59:01.559
a little bit. Like, he, because he, like, kind of goes,
1230
00:59:01.949 --> 00:59:02.889
does that taste weird to you?
1231
00:59:02.909 --> 00:59:03.010
Yeah.
1232
00:59:03.030 --> 00:59:05.150
Are you sure? Yeah. Are you sure that didn't taste
1233
00:59:05.190 --> 00:59:07.010
weird to you? Yeah. And he kind of rubs his
1234
00:59:07.050 --> 00:59:09.320
mouth a little bit, Right. I think in this game,
1235
00:59:09.340 --> 00:59:11.820
they're on kind of mind games. They're playing mental chess
1236
00:59:11.860 --> 00:59:12.340
with each other.
1237
00:59:12.539 --> 00:59:14.639
Totally. And then I'm thinking, okay, was the bender drill
1238
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.030
left out to be able to be seen, whatever? But
1239
00:59:18.070 --> 00:59:21.050
then the phone rings, and it's so loud. I love it.
1240
00:59:21.210 --> 00:59:26.090
Dude, yeah. This is probably... the biggest jump scare that
1241
00:59:26.340 --> 00:59:28.500
got me when I rewatched it pretty recently, you know,
1242
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.159
like I was familiar with a handful of them, but
1243
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:32.960
that one made me jump out of my skin.
1244
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:37.300
Yeah. It's not because it's like scary supernatural. It's just relatable.
1245
00:59:37.340 --> 00:59:39.659
Like when a phone rings, when somebody is asleep, you
1246
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.239
just don't want to like wake them up, you know?
1247
00:59:42.579 --> 00:59:46.199
Right. It's like, it's almost so obvious. It gets you
1248
00:59:46.219 --> 00:59:48.280
because you're like, they're not going to do it because
1249
00:59:48.300 --> 00:59:50.000
you see the phone in his hand and he's holding
1250
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:51.780
it for a second. And you're like, okay, it's fine.
1251
00:59:52.019 --> 00:59:52.679
It's not fine.
1252
00:59:52.860 --> 00:59:56.860
Yeah. It's the no mix-up mix-up. Yeah, the only time
1253
00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:59.250
a phone should ring after like 10 p.m. is if
1254
00:59:59.289 --> 01:00:01.050
somebody died. Agreed.
1255
01:00:04.789 --> 01:00:08.409
Upon answering, though, Aaron addresses Angela, but she asks for
1256
01:00:08.449 --> 01:00:12.360
Joseph and wants to know who he even is. As
1257
01:00:12.380 --> 01:00:17.179
the conversation unfolds, it's obvious that she has absolutely no
1258
01:00:17.260 --> 01:00:21.300
idea what this video recording job is, but way more alarmingly,
1259
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.389
excuse me, but way more alarmingly, She advises Aaron to
1260
01:00:25.489 --> 01:00:29.110
leave the house immediately, and he even has to tell
1261
01:00:29.150 --> 01:00:31.989
her where he is because she doesn't know of the
1262
01:00:32.139 --> 01:00:35.460
so-called family vacation home where the cameraman has been lured to.
1263
01:00:36.739 --> 01:00:39.280
And then if things couldn't get any worse, the caller
1264
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:43.860
then explains that her brother has problems before the call
1265
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:48.579
cuts out as she again warns Aaron to run. Damn.
1266
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:50.679
Mystery call.
1267
01:00:51.340 --> 01:00:51.739
Mm-hmm.
1268
01:00:52.219 --> 01:00:53.909
From Mystery Woman.
1269
01:00:54.739 --> 01:00:58.530
Right. And, you know, this is not my original observation here.
1270
01:00:58.570 --> 01:01:02.389
I found this on IMDb. But kind of something interesting
1271
01:01:02.429 --> 01:01:06.489
worth noting here is you have to imagine Joseph is
1272
01:01:06.909 --> 01:01:08.150
not being honest, right?
1273
01:01:08.389 --> 01:01:09.110
Oh, absolutely.
1274
01:01:09.369 --> 01:01:11.159
So he's probably not using his real name.
1275
01:01:11.340 --> 01:01:11.510
Nope.
1276
01:01:12.179 --> 01:01:14.500
So why did she answer looking for Joseph?
1277
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:16.760
Because she's in on it.
1278
01:01:17.340 --> 01:01:19.019
That's kind of what it seems like, right?
1279
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:19.659
Yeah. Yeah.
1280
01:01:21.210 --> 01:01:24.679
But why would she then desperately want him to leave?
1281
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:28.679
She's not really much of an impactful character throughout this story,
1282
01:01:28.699 --> 01:01:30.820
so it's just like, kind of ask some more questions
1283
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:31.420
than it answers.
1284
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.059
I think it serves a couple of purposes. One, it
1285
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:39.760
kind of tells the audience, it reaffirms to them that
1286
01:01:40.780 --> 01:01:44.690
somebody is telling Aaron to get the fuck out. And
1287
01:01:44.710 --> 01:01:49.340
he's not listening. But also then, The other side of
1288
01:01:49.420 --> 01:01:52.679
it is, well, I don't really trust what Joseph has said.
1289
01:01:52.699 --> 01:01:56.719
And now this person is saying something like, it's a
1290
01:01:56.780 --> 01:02:00.340
little weird because I'm trapped in this house. And now
1291
01:02:00.380 --> 01:02:03.829
there's like two people that are giving me like totally
1292
01:02:03.929 --> 01:02:06.210
opposite directions on what to do. Right.
1293
01:02:06.289 --> 01:02:09.269
And she is like insistent. Oh, yeah.
1294
01:02:10.170 --> 01:02:10.369
Yeah.
1295
01:02:10.469 --> 01:02:13.730
You know, so like she's like trying to like strike
1296
01:02:13.769 --> 01:02:14.650
the fear of God into him.
1297
01:02:14.710 --> 01:02:17.679
It seems like. Does she? Here's the third option, then,
1298
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:21.030
if she's not in on it. Oh, shit. Is she
1299
01:02:21.190 --> 01:02:23.889
really trying to warn him to get the fuck out?
1300
01:02:25.389 --> 01:02:28.480
What does this character know that we don't know? You
1301
01:02:29.539 --> 01:02:30.500
know what I mean?
1302
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:33.760
Until I saw the observation on IMDb about, like, How
1303
01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:37.920
did she know to answer looking for Joseph? Until I
1304
01:02:38.099 --> 01:02:41.300
had seen that, I always thought she was well-intentioned, like,
1305
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:43.980
honestly trying to save his life. Like, holy fuck, my
1306
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:45.320
brother is doing it again.
1307
01:02:45.340 --> 01:02:45.429
Yeah.
1308
01:02:46.050 --> 01:02:49.070
Like, please leave so that I don't have to, like,
1309
01:02:49.349 --> 01:02:53.730
go through any more craziness. Sure. But then after that observation,
1310
01:02:53.750 --> 01:02:56.510
it's like, is that just a plot hole? Like... Out
1311
01:02:56.530 --> 01:02:58.829
of universe could very well just be a plot hole.
1312
01:02:58.969 --> 01:03:01.510
But in universe, it's like we have to answer that question.
1313
01:03:01.710 --> 01:03:03.250
Yeah, I don't think it's a plot hole so much
1314
01:03:03.369 --> 01:03:07.420
as I think it's a nice chance for the audience
1315
01:03:07.460 --> 01:03:10.980
to speculate for themselves. And that's the kind of fun
1316
01:03:11.019 --> 01:03:16.559
stuff because it's implied, but it's not stated. So you
1317
01:03:16.579 --> 01:03:20.289
can kind of form your own opinion on it, I guess.
1318
01:03:21.449 --> 01:03:23.889
Yeah, I think that sort of storytelling is better.
1319
01:03:24.110 --> 01:03:26.010
It's weird. Like, why would that phone ring?
1320
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.639
When he's, you know, uh, literal worst possible time.
1321
01:03:31.099 --> 01:03:33.639
Yeah, it is. Yeah.
1322
01:03:34.300 --> 01:03:36.460
It's like I said earlier, it asks more questions than
1323
01:03:36.500 --> 01:03:39.420
it answers. I think that's, uh, for the benefit of
1324
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:39.760
the movie.
1325
01:03:39.889 --> 01:03:42.710
When you're already in this experience, uh, locked in this
1326
01:03:42.750 --> 01:03:46.030
house with this weird guy and you're getting instructions now
1327
01:03:46.070 --> 01:03:48.949
on a phone, like, yeah, I got to see how
1328
01:03:48.989 --> 01:03:50.969
this plays out. Mr. Anderson.
1329
01:03:51.550 --> 01:03:56.989
I'm just kidding. Right. Uh, yeah. So, uh, If you
1330
01:03:57.159 --> 01:04:01.679
weren't already at, like, DEFCON 1? Which one's the worst?
1331
01:04:01.739 --> 01:04:04.639
DEFCON 1 is the worst one, right? Isn't that how
1332
01:04:04.659 --> 01:04:07.559
the DEFCON scale works? Whatever the worst DEFCON is, we're
1333
01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:08.659
at that one at this point.
1334
01:04:08.900 --> 01:04:11.500
Okay. Is that 5?
1335
01:04:11.500 --> 01:04:12.599
No, I think 5 means.
1336
01:04:12.659 --> 01:04:13.199
Is 5 the best?
1337
01:04:13.260 --> 01:04:17.650
I think that's the least dangerous. I can't remember the
1338
01:04:17.670 --> 01:04:20.010
DEFCON scale. Anyways, that's not important.
1339
01:04:20.090 --> 01:04:22.289
We're at the maximum... But that's not important right now.
1340
01:04:22.309 --> 01:04:25.070
We're at the maximum creep scale, I guess, where we're at.
1341
01:04:25.989 --> 01:04:27.610
But you don't really have to tell Aaron twice. He
1342
01:04:27.630 --> 01:04:31.909
just goes to bounce, but then he realizes Joseph is gone.
1343
01:04:31.929 --> 01:04:36.659
He's not sleeping on the fireplace anymore. Yeah, he's just disappeared.
1344
01:04:37.219 --> 01:04:41.519
Like Michael Myers style. He was just snoring a second ago.
1345
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:43.179
What the fuck?
1346
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:46.449
Did we even mention the original when he's just walking
1347
01:04:46.489 --> 01:04:48.449
in the house in the beginning and just the dude
1348
01:04:48.489 --> 01:04:51.170
just jumps out and scares him from from the closet
1349
01:04:51.369 --> 01:04:53.269
he's like i just want to see what your reaction
1350
01:04:53.289 --> 01:04:55.650
was this is great we're gonna have a good time.
1351
01:04:55.550 --> 01:04:57.429
I totally did forget to mention that yeah he like
1352
01:04:57.650 --> 01:04:59.989
relishes like jump scaring the shit out of this guy
1353
01:05:00.510 --> 01:05:02.610
it's like in the woods too it's.
1354
01:05:02.230 --> 01:05:04.050
Like the kid on the playground that would just go
1355
01:05:04.070 --> 01:05:07.159
around like fucking with people and like you know he
1356
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:08.300
was just an asshole.
1357
01:05:08.369 --> 01:05:10.260
I'm not going to lie. I love jump scaring people.
1358
01:05:10.300 --> 01:05:13.119
I don't like go around fucking with people, but you know,
1359
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:15.760
me and my brothers and all like friends, we love
1360
01:05:15.780 --> 01:05:16.639
jump scaring each other.
1361
01:05:17.300 --> 01:05:17.639
Oh, sure.
1362
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:17.860
Yeah.
1363
01:05:17.900 --> 01:05:21.570
That's one thing. But like, uh, like in this way,
1364
01:05:21.860 --> 01:05:26.030
you know, like how the, um, YouTube and like, uh,
1365
01:05:26.090 --> 01:05:28.070
Tic Tac prank videos were big for a little while.
1366
01:05:28.309 --> 01:05:28.650
Oh yeah.
1367
01:05:28.690 --> 01:05:32.889
You know what I mean? And, um, it's interesting looking
1368
01:05:32.929 --> 01:05:35.860
at this movie just in thinking back on like the
1369
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:36.400
prank stuff.
1370
01:05:36.699 --> 01:05:36.860
Right.
1371
01:05:37.460 --> 01:05:39.869
This is that, but like 12 years before.
1372
01:05:40.250 --> 01:05:40.829
Honestly.
1373
01:05:41.030 --> 01:05:41.210
Yeah.
1374
01:05:41.289 --> 01:05:45.590
And I think it's really a good tool in this
1375
01:05:45.630 --> 01:05:50.559
movie because they're mostly well done jump scares. They get
1376
01:05:50.619 --> 01:05:51.320
me more often than not.
1377
01:05:51.340 --> 01:05:53.219
Because he's weird. Yeah, he's just a weird dude.
1378
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:57.469
Yeah. It's just like you're not really expecting it most
1379
01:05:57.489 --> 01:06:00.269
of the time, except for the no mix-up cell phone one,
1380
01:06:00.309 --> 01:06:02.869
like I said, but that one, you know, is well
1381
01:06:02.909 --> 01:06:05.469
done because it feels obvious, you know, like it's too obvious.
1382
01:06:05.909 --> 01:06:08.170
But otherwise, you know, they have perfect timing. They're so
1383
01:06:08.190 --> 01:06:13.530
well done. Anyways, though, yeah, Joseph is gone. Michael Myers star,
1384
01:06:13.550 --> 01:06:18.539
like we said. Following the nearby open door to the balcony, though,
1385
01:06:18.619 --> 01:06:21.199
the host from Hell gives our hero the scare of
1386
01:06:21.219 --> 01:06:24.219
his life by saying, death! You know, in his ear,
1387
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:27.159
he's just like, out of nowhere from the darkness. You know,
1388
01:06:27.260 --> 01:06:29.760
I was kind of expecting, like, in attack, but he
1389
01:06:29.780 --> 01:06:32.400
just death and goes on some creepy, weird monologue.
1390
01:06:32.739 --> 01:06:32.980
Yeah.
1391
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.699
Uh, he like pours his heart out about some, you know,
1392
01:06:35.860 --> 01:06:38.099
succumbing to cancer, but then Aaron cuts the crap and
1393
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:41.559
says he knows what's going on and he's willing to help.
1394
01:06:41.739 --> 01:06:43.380
If Joseph returns his keys.
1395
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:47.559
Bargaining. He's trying to, he's trying to bargain at this point,
1396
01:06:47.619 --> 01:06:47.920
you know?
1397
01:06:48.340 --> 01:06:50.619
Yeah. But then like in the woods, Joseph just like
1398
01:06:50.699 --> 01:06:53.760
runs into the house abruptly without saying a word, uh,
1399
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.940
leaving our cameraman to cautiously approach the front door where
1400
01:06:56.989 --> 01:06:58.590
he'd encounter peach fuzz.
1401
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:03.920
Yeah. Oh, dude. Everything in this part is just so crazy, too. Because, like,
1402
01:07:04.699 --> 01:07:06.380
they're just talking and all of a sudden he just
1403
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:11.039
literally runs off. Like, who does that? I know. This
1404
01:07:11.059 --> 01:07:13.099
guy's already trapped in the house, right?
1405
01:07:14.219 --> 01:07:19.309
I cannot comprehend how unsettling it is. Because he'll do this, like,
1406
01:07:19.349 --> 01:07:21.610
thousand-yard stare through Aaron for a while.
1407
01:07:21.789 --> 01:07:21.989
Yeah.
1408
01:07:22.510 --> 01:07:24.670
And then he just runs away. Yeah. It's like.
1409
01:07:24.730 --> 01:07:25.309
Who does that?
1410
01:07:25.530 --> 01:07:26.909
What the shit is happening? Yeah.
1411
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:29.780
That's how good of a concept this is. It's so like,
1412
01:07:30.340 --> 01:07:32.039
you look at this, you're like, how the fuck didn't
1413
01:07:32.059 --> 01:07:35.440
we think of this shit? I know, right?
1414
01:07:36.099 --> 01:07:39.900
Like almost ask that exact question. Like, how did no
1415
01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:41.639
one do this already? You know, how did it take
1416
01:07:41.659 --> 01:07:42.030
this long?
1417
01:07:42.139 --> 01:07:43.530
Yeah.
1418
01:07:43.550 --> 01:07:46.449
Then Joseph starts making some crazy ass noises. So Aaron
1419
01:07:46.530 --> 01:07:49.869
charges at him and then it cuts to black. Yeah.
1420
01:07:50.550 --> 01:07:51.590
But then we pick up.
1421
01:07:51.650 --> 01:07:54.289
With Joe being. Did we talk about him wearing the mask?
1422
01:07:54.769 --> 01:07:55.909
Yeah, he's in the peach fuzz.
1423
01:07:55.949 --> 01:07:56.570
Yeah, he's got the mask on.
1424
01:07:56.590 --> 01:07:57.369
He's got his peach fuzz.
1425
01:07:57.570 --> 01:08:01.170
Yeah. Yeah, so who blocks the door wearing the creepy
1426
01:08:01.590 --> 01:08:02.829
Five Nights at Freddy's mask?
1427
01:08:03.690 --> 01:08:07.409
Joseph. Apparently. Yeah, and just, I guess, yeah, to bring
1428
01:08:07.429 --> 01:08:10.090
this out in just a bit more detail, right before
1429
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:12.659
Aaron charges at him and it cuts to black, he
1430
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.960
starts making really animalistic noises and starts rubbing up against
1431
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:16.899
the door all weird.
1432
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:17.960
Yeah, it's weird.
1433
01:08:18.659 --> 01:08:20.399
Yeah, like, I'm going to take a drink again because
1434
01:08:20.420 --> 01:08:21.359
we said weird a few times.
1435
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:26.159
Yeah, a couple of drinks, yeah. Man.
1436
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.039
Yeah, but after we cut to black, we pick up
1437
01:08:29.100 --> 01:08:33.569
with Joe, you know, recording himself, seemingly, you know, burying
1438
01:08:33.649 --> 01:08:35.250
some black trash bags out in the woods.
1439
01:08:35.689 --> 01:08:36.229
Mm-hmm.
1440
01:08:36.250 --> 01:08:37.550
Movie's over. No, I'm just kidding.
1441
01:08:37.569 --> 01:08:39.649
That's what it seemed like. Yeah, I was like, because
1442
01:08:39.670 --> 01:08:42.689
we didn't see the outcome of the fight, so the
1443
01:08:42.750 --> 01:08:47.909
next shot is literally Joseph just hauling giant garbage bags
1444
01:08:48.010 --> 01:08:48.949
up the side of a mountain.
1445
01:08:49.550 --> 01:08:51.720
Presumably Aaron. Yeah.
1446
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:54.899
Yeah, that's what we're led to believe.
1447
01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.739
But it's actually a bit of a fake out as
1448
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.939
uh aaron then addresses us saying that after the scuffle
1449
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.779
joseph just took off again so our hero was ready
1450
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:05.619
to move on with his life you know after towing
1451
01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:09.069
his car home but then he got an unsettling video
1452
01:09:09.170 --> 01:09:12.470
of joe delivered to his house in the mail meaning
1453
01:09:13.390 --> 01:09:14.529
joe knows where he lives.
1454
01:09:14.710 --> 01:09:18.060
Yeah So, yeah, we just at this point, this part
1455
01:09:18.100 --> 01:09:20.470
of the story is resolved. He just he made it home.
1456
01:09:21.350 --> 01:09:24.890
But now he got something weird in the mail.
1457
01:09:25.630 --> 01:09:27.949
Yeah. It's like it should have been over for all
1458
01:09:27.970 --> 01:09:28.850
intents and purposes.
1459
01:09:28.890 --> 01:09:32.899
Like how did how did he know where to send it? Yeah.
1460
01:09:33.699 --> 01:09:37.680
Odd. Aaron decides to throw the tape away and hopefully
1461
01:09:37.699 --> 01:09:39.859
just be done with this whole situation. But then he
1462
01:09:39.899 --> 01:09:40.979
wakes up in the middle of the night.
1463
01:09:41.449 --> 01:09:43.239
I like how you call it a tape because it's
1464
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:44.300
clearly a DVD.
1465
01:09:44.420 --> 01:09:45.979
I know. I don't know why I keep doing that.
1466
01:09:46.220 --> 01:09:48.319
I think I did that a few times in the script, too.
1467
01:09:48.340 --> 01:09:49.899
I had to keep changing it when I was writing.
1468
01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:50.739
But anyways.
1469
01:09:51.100 --> 01:09:53.659
You're like one of those, like, grandparents that walked in
1470
01:09:53.699 --> 01:09:55.869
and be like, you guys have Nintendo tapes?
1471
01:09:55.949 --> 01:09:57.199
I know it. I know it.
1472
01:09:57.210 --> 01:09:58.949
Masano wants a Nintendo tape.
1473
01:10:00.050 --> 01:10:03.550
And I'm not going to stop either. Damn it. But yeah. Yeah,
1474
01:10:03.590 --> 01:10:05.130
he wakes up in the middle of the night to
1475
01:10:05.729 --> 01:10:08.319
recount this super weird dream that he had about him
1476
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:11.380
and Joseph back at the Heart Rock. Oh, fuck.
1477
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:12.220
The weird dream.
1478
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:14.039
Do you want to recount this?
1479
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:16.460
Oh, God. Can I? I don't know if I can.
1480
01:10:17.020 --> 01:10:17.859
I can do my best.
1481
01:10:18.739 --> 01:10:21.140
Where is it here? Is there.
1482
01:10:23.420 --> 01:10:24.640
This isn't the wolf.
1483
01:10:24.380 --> 01:10:27.670
One, right? No, this isn't the... That is coming up.
1484
01:10:27.710 --> 01:10:29.010
Yeah, that's coming up, but.
1485
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:33.539
I don't remember the weird dream part. You're better at
1486
01:10:33.619 --> 01:10:35.739
it than me because it's my first view.
1487
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:37.220
Oh, he's going to start it here.
1488
01:10:37.380 --> 01:10:38.859
Yeah, I'll jump in.
1489
01:10:39.180 --> 01:10:43.520
He dreams that the Heart Rock is a hot tub
1490
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:46.380
for some reason, and they're both wearing peach fuzz masks.
1491
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.390
But he has a baby peach fuzz mask.
1492
01:10:48.649 --> 01:10:52.729
Yeah, he's got a baby peach fuzz mask, and Joseph's
1493
01:10:52.770 --> 01:10:56.000
got the regular peach fuzz mask. So, you know, all
1494
01:10:56.020 --> 01:10:58.899
of a sudden then, as an audience, you're thinking, okay, like,
1495
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:01.180
it's two furries in a hot tub here.
1496
01:11:01.260 --> 01:11:01.560
Right.
1497
01:11:01.619 --> 01:11:01.920
You know.
1498
01:11:02.579 --> 01:11:07.260
But then they have wine. Yeah. And he says Joseph, like,
1499
01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:10.739
then starts pouring the wine over the top of him.
1500
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:14.090
And then something starts feeling weird in the water. And
1501
01:11:14.130 --> 01:11:16.289
then he looks down and it's blood.
1502
01:11:16.750 --> 01:11:21.590
Yeah. How fucked up. Okay. So, first of all, he's,
1503
01:11:21.949 --> 01:11:25.180
you know, he's been kidnapped and forced to. stay overnight
1504
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:29.720
at this guy's house. And now he's having these fucked
1505
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:32.979
up dreams about him. Like it's weird. I know.
1506
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:39.010
It's just like, damn it. This guy's like living rent free. Yeah.
1507
01:11:40.970 --> 01:11:41.350
Oh man.
1508
01:11:41.609 --> 01:11:46.770
But yeah, it's, it's having such a profound effect on Aaron.
1509
01:11:46.979 --> 01:11:49.779
Like it's now affecting like his subconscious and he's dreaming
1510
01:11:49.819 --> 01:11:50.399
about it. Right.
1511
01:11:50.829 --> 01:11:53.149
I wonder if all these drinks are having a profound
1512
01:11:53.189 --> 01:11:55.029
effect on our script reading here.
1513
01:11:55.109 --> 01:11:56.920
Totally. Absolutely.
1514
01:11:57.180 --> 01:11:58.079
Probably very visible.
1515
01:11:58.380 --> 01:12:00.380
Many, many things. But that's why we're here.
1516
01:12:01.220 --> 01:12:02.239
Cheers. Cheers.
1517
01:12:04.260 --> 01:12:04.399
Yeah.
1518
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:08.100
Anyways, the stalking continues tomorrow with another package being dropped
1519
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.300
off while Aaron was in the bathroom. And upon opening it,
1520
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:14.960
there is yet another creepy video from Joseph alongside a
1521
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:19.279
knife and a stuffed wolf. The intro is basically Joe
1522
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:21.800
just claiming that they're equal now because he found the
1523
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.520
bottle of Benadryl Aaron used to drug him. But then
1524
01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:28.220
the video continues as follows. And Wes, this is the
1525
01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:29.979
one that I wanted you to narrate.
1526
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.510
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny. I was just
1527
01:12:33.529 --> 01:12:35.590
thinking how you were talking about the Benadryl part. And
1528
01:12:35.609 --> 01:12:39.630
so he's Joseph is accusing Aaron of like, oh, I
1529
01:12:39.649 --> 01:12:42.430
found the Benadryl. But that's probably Joseph's anyway. Like he
1530
01:12:42.470 --> 01:12:43.350
did that on purpose.
1531
01:12:43.409 --> 01:12:43.569
Right.
1532
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:44.770
Maybe.
1533
01:12:44.859 --> 01:12:48.109
Well, that's the one that he used to dose the
1534
01:12:48.210 --> 01:12:49.409
whiskey and knock him out with.
1535
01:12:49.949 --> 01:12:50.310
Yeah.
1536
01:12:50.369 --> 01:12:50.909
Yeah. Yeah.
1537
01:12:51.170 --> 01:12:52.689
Oh yeah. Okay. I got it. Yeah.
1538
01:12:53.090 --> 01:12:55.130
So that's how he, we know that it was Benadryl
1539
01:12:55.149 --> 01:12:55.689
that he had used.
1540
01:12:55.710 --> 01:12:58.439
That's right. That's right. But also like the box is
1541
01:12:58.500 --> 01:13:00.520
huge that he ships him. And the only thing that's
1542
01:13:00.579 --> 01:13:04.199
in it is a DVD and a knife. That's weird.
1543
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:06.640
And something else, but, um, okay.
1544
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:08.729
Yeah. So the stuffed wolf. Oh yeah.
1545
01:13:08.739 --> 01:13:11.250
The stuffed wolf. Okay. So, uh, so this is the
1546
01:13:11.289 --> 01:13:17.119
video that, uh, the, Joe basically has made for Aaron.
1547
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:20.060
Yeah, after explaining like, hey, we're good. We're washed now
1548
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:23.800
because I found what you drugged me with. So now
1549
01:13:23.819 --> 01:13:26.039
that we're even, here's how I feel about you.
1550
01:13:26.140 --> 01:13:30.050
Yeah, here's how I feel. So I love wolves because
1551
01:13:30.060 --> 01:13:32.819
they love deeply, but they don't know how to express it.
1552
01:13:33.489 --> 01:13:37.430
And they're often very violent and quite frankly, murder the
1553
01:13:37.449 --> 01:13:40.329
things that they love. And inside of the wolf is
1554
01:13:40.350 --> 01:13:45.699
this beautiful heart And yeah, it's misguided. Yeah, occasionally it
1555
01:13:45.739 --> 01:13:49.880
murders things. And this little wolf was so cute, it
1556
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.439
reminded me of you, honestly. You know, that moment I
1557
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:56.640
scared you in the woods and there was murder in
1558
01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:59.100
your eyes, but it was like, it was baby murder.
1559
01:14:00.060 --> 01:14:02.359
You're not ready to accept that yet. But I want
1560
01:14:02.380 --> 01:14:05.600
to encourage you to embrace your inner wolf. So take
1561
01:14:05.649 --> 01:14:09.829
the wolf. Enjoy it. And more importantly, take the knife.
1562
01:14:10.609 --> 01:14:12.789
And don't be afraid to murder it. because when you
1563
01:14:12.810 --> 01:14:15.470
stick a knife in something and you gut it, you
1564
01:14:15.529 --> 01:14:19.510
really dig inside. I don't know, man, there's, there's all
1565
01:14:19.550 --> 01:14:23.409
this beautiful stuff. And, uh, I got a little surprise
1566
01:14:23.449 --> 01:14:25.340
for you in there. See you soon, buddy.
1567
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:30.739
Well done. We're super well done. I was getting like
1568
01:14:31.220 --> 01:14:33.140
super creep chills and vibe from that.
1569
01:14:33.180 --> 01:14:36.720
Yeah. That's the, that's the beauty of the script though.
1570
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:39.430
Like it's just, it's so well written and like it,
1571
01:14:39.569 --> 01:14:43.500
I can see why, uh, What's his name? Mark Duplass?
1572
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:43.819
Mm-hmm.
1573
01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:48.750
Like, yeah, who wouldn't love to play a role like this? Right.
1574
01:14:48.789 --> 01:14:52.810
You know, just to let your inner weird flag fly.
1575
01:14:53.770 --> 01:14:56.699
That is a fantastic way to describe it. And it's just...
1576
01:14:57.090 --> 01:14:59.750
Fire on all cylinders during this little monologue here.
1577
01:14:59.829 --> 01:15:02.550
Totally, because he knows where he lives now. He's sending
1578
01:15:02.569 --> 01:15:03.050
him mail.
1579
01:15:03.069 --> 01:15:03.689
Right.
1580
01:15:03.829 --> 01:15:04.569
That's fucked up.
1581
01:15:04.770 --> 01:15:07.220
And obviously, nothing about this guy is honest. No. So
1582
01:15:07.260 --> 01:15:09.359
it's seriously just like a one-sided battle.
1583
01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:11.460
And at this point, has he called the cops yet,
1584
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:13.250
or did he already try to do that?
1585
01:15:13.970 --> 01:15:15.880
Uh... He's about ready to.
1586
01:15:16.060 --> 01:15:16.420
Yeah.
1587
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:18.279
Yeah. Like this is like the moment where he gets
1588
01:15:18.300 --> 01:15:21.079
to it. So yeah, just my next segment, actually, uh,
1589
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:24.140
naturally Aaron cuts the toy open and inside there's an
1590
01:15:24.180 --> 01:15:27.729
engraved J plus a forever locket with each of their photos.
1591
01:15:28.550 --> 01:15:30.670
And then this is where I'm happy to finally report.
1592
01:15:30.750 --> 01:15:33.210
Like you just said, uh, the cameraman finally does what
1593
01:15:33.229 --> 01:15:35.189
he should have done forever ago. And he calls the
1594
01:15:35.229 --> 01:15:36.510
cops and fortifies his home.
1595
01:15:37.470 --> 01:15:38.789
I forgot about the locket.
1596
01:15:39.210 --> 01:15:41.270
Yeah. That he cuts the wolf. And that was the
1597
01:15:41.289 --> 01:15:43.170
beautiful thing inside or whatever.
1598
01:15:43.630 --> 01:15:47.739
It's a tiny heart-shaped locket with pictures of each of
1599
01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:49.859
them inside of the locket.
1600
01:15:50.020 --> 01:15:52.680
And I think his photo is from the stalker photos
1601
01:15:52.699 --> 01:15:54.319
that he showed him at the restaurant. It is.
1602
01:15:54.340 --> 01:15:57.630
Yeah, it's the stalker photo. And then on the back,
1603
01:15:57.689 --> 01:16:00.250
it's engraved, right, with their initials.
1604
01:16:00.770 --> 01:16:03.670
Which I didn't mention this, but whenever they originally went
1605
01:16:03.710 --> 01:16:07.659
to the Heart Rock, the creep carved a heart J
1606
01:16:07.739 --> 01:16:11.000
plus a, you know, just in the wall. And then
1607
01:16:11.140 --> 01:16:13.880
here he is again, kind of recreating it for this memento.
1608
01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:18.779
Oh, that's so well done. Yeah, it is.
1609
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:22.020
He's just like, I can't even like, these guys are
1610
01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:24.100
just weird to even like think of this story. Like they,
1611
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:26.550
they just went to some, some really dark places to
1612
01:16:26.689 --> 01:16:27.710
craft it as I have a feeling.
1613
01:16:28.270 --> 01:16:35.510
Yes. Uh, yes, but, um, who does that? Uh, Every
1614
01:16:35.550 --> 01:16:38.210
reaction when you're watching this movie should just be, who
1615
01:16:38.229 --> 01:16:38.729
does that?
1616
01:16:40.010 --> 01:16:49.270
Yeah, that is fair. Unfortunately, though, the home that Joseph
1617
01:16:49.989 --> 01:16:52.329
originally encountered or lured him to turned out to be
1618
01:16:52.369 --> 01:16:55.430
a rental, and Joseph is likely an alias, so the
1619
01:16:55.470 --> 01:16:58.250
police really don't have anything to go on, so they're
1620
01:16:58.270 --> 01:17:00.479
less than helpful for this situation. Yeah.
1621
01:17:02.180 --> 01:17:05.369
I mean... Think of somebody trying to rent an Airbnb
1622
01:17:05.430 --> 01:17:09.600
and doing this shit, right? The same concept could be
1623
01:17:09.739 --> 01:17:12.500
used today just with a couple of updates.
1624
01:17:13.260 --> 01:17:14.920
That's actually a pretty good point.
1625
01:17:15.060 --> 01:17:18.520
Somebody books a VRBO under an assumed name or steals
1626
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:21.869
an identity and books an Airbnb and commits a crime
1627
01:17:21.989 --> 01:17:27.369
or whatever. There's a concept right there. So set up
1628
01:17:27.409 --> 01:17:29.270
a meeting with Jason Blum. Let's pitch it. Let's go.
1629
01:17:30.149 --> 01:17:30.479
Exactly.
1630
01:17:30.489 --> 01:17:33.239
We'll get some people together. I'll be... Get this shit
1631
01:17:33.260 --> 01:17:35.880
made for 10 grand and it'll make 10 million.
1632
01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:38.260
Well, do you want to be the creep or do
1633
01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:40.020
you want to be the victim? Oh, absolutely. Huh? Do
1634
01:17:40.180 --> 01:17:41.239
you want to be the creep or the victim?
1635
01:17:41.649 --> 01:17:42.439
No, I want to be the creep.
1636
01:17:43.020 --> 01:17:43.319
All right.
1637
01:17:43.470 --> 01:17:43.600
Yeah.
1638
01:17:43.619 --> 01:17:44.170
Well, I guess that was.
1639
01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:46.010
I was like playing the monster. I would rather play
1640
01:17:46.029 --> 01:17:46.970
the monster, so.
1641
01:17:47.310 --> 01:17:50.069
All right. Well, go easy on me whenever you freaking
1642
01:17:50.090 --> 01:17:52.390
murder me horrifically by the end of the movie somehow.
1643
01:17:52.649 --> 01:17:54.729
Oh, no, man. It's going to be full-on method acting.
1644
01:17:55.149 --> 01:17:55.609
Jesus Christ.
1645
01:17:55.630 --> 01:17:56.789
We're only doing one take.
1646
01:17:56.829 --> 01:17:57.369
No.
1647
01:17:58.189 --> 01:18:04.250
Not the method acting bit. Not on... everything is led
1648
01:18:04.310 --> 01:18:08.010
up to this exactly that'll be our tune in for
1649
01:18:08.050 --> 01:18:14.180
our final episode that's all yeah yep um that evening
1650
01:18:14.380 --> 01:18:16.319
um aaron wakes up in the middle of the night
1651
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:20.239
to document some more dreams but he's interrupted by a
1652
01:18:20.380 --> 01:18:23.380
loud bang outside and actually i didn't write this in
1653
01:18:23.420 --> 01:18:25.579
the script but i Every time I watch this scene,
1654
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:27.960
I'm so curious what this dream is going to be.
1655
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:30.260
Because he's like, we're back in the hot tub. And
1656
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:31.699
there's these retractable spikes.
1657
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:32.720
And bang.
1658
01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:36.729
And I'm like, no, wait, wait, wait. Where were you going?
1659
01:18:36.750 --> 01:18:39.489
Yeah, because he's like, we're sitting on these spikes. And
1660
01:18:39.529 --> 01:18:42.090
then they slowly start to come up. And then bang.
1661
01:18:42.510 --> 01:18:44.930
And we never, like, what? I need to hear more
1662
01:18:44.949 --> 01:18:48.109
about this hot tub and retractable spike situation you're dreaming about.
1663
01:18:48.130 --> 01:18:49.439
What's happening here? Yeah.
1664
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:53.600
Uh yeah and like anybody would do when they hear
1665
01:18:53.659 --> 01:18:55.840
a mystery house noise in the middle of the night
1666
01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:59.899
that is not on the prescribed list of recommended house noises.
1667
01:19:00.739 --> 01:19:02.899
Yeah you get four house noises you're comfortable with right
1668
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.260
that was not on it clearly i know the air.
1669
01:19:05.180 --> 01:19:09.199
Conditioner sound and the furnace sound The dryer. Yeah, I
1670
01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:11.939
know a couple other neighborhood sounds, and that's really, that's
1671
01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.619
the acceptable list. Right. And then this guy, all of
1672
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:17.470
a sudden, he's just like, nope, nope, lights, lights, lights,
1673
01:19:17.529 --> 01:19:18.630
just turning everything on.
1674
01:19:19.189 --> 01:19:21.569
Yeah, and he's got balls of steel, because he doesn't just, like,
1675
01:19:21.590 --> 01:19:23.670
call the cops. He's like, he goes on the hunt. Well,
1676
01:19:23.689 --> 01:19:24.850
the cops didn't do anything before.
1677
01:19:25.189 --> 01:19:26.899
Yeah. Because they weren't going to help him.
1678
01:19:27.350 --> 01:19:30.439
That's true. He already is feeling pretty, like, dismissed by them. Yep.
1679
01:19:30.819 --> 01:19:32.079
So he's fighting back, like you said.
1680
01:19:32.939 --> 01:19:35.829
Yep. Uh, so yeah, what follows is the most suspenseful
1681
01:19:35.869 --> 01:19:39.369
shirts ever where Joseph is seen appearing in Aaron's doorway.
1682
01:19:39.729 --> 01:19:40.909
Oh man. I love the shot.
1683
01:19:41.229 --> 01:19:42.970
It's fantastic. Yeah. But then he's like ducks out of
1684
01:19:42.989 --> 01:19:44.649
the way right before being seen.
1685
01:19:45.069 --> 01:19:47.289
Yes. I had to back this up a couple of times.
1686
01:19:47.310 --> 01:19:50.130
Sorry for interrupting, but you're fine. Um, the way that
1687
01:19:50.170 --> 01:19:53.069
this scene is done is brilliant because, um, it's just
1688
01:19:53.090 --> 01:19:57.880
done for real, uh, no special effect or anything. But, uh,
1689
01:19:57.899 --> 01:20:00.579
as Aaron is, is walking out of the bedroom, um,
1690
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.909
He's got the knife and he's kind of standing with
1691
01:20:05.149 --> 01:20:07.909
the doors behind him. And as he's kind of talking,
1692
01:20:07.949 --> 01:20:12.470
he just shifts just a tiny bit. And Joseph is
1693
01:20:12.510 --> 01:20:15.470
dressed all in black. So then when Aaron moves, Joseph's
1694
01:20:15.529 --> 01:20:18.039
face is right in the doorway. And I'm like, oh, shit,
1695
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:20.859
that was awesome. And he went back and he looked
1696
01:20:20.979 --> 01:20:23.399
at it. And a couple of times. You can see
1697
01:20:23.619 --> 01:20:26.100
where it's just blocked and scripted perfectly.
1698
01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:28.369
Yeah, like the framing of where the camera is is perfect.
1699
01:20:28.390 --> 01:20:31.949
You move just this half inch, and then you come
1700
01:20:32.010 --> 01:20:34.489
into frame, and then when you move, you're there. Boom.
1701
01:20:34.930 --> 01:20:37.970
Yeah, everyone hit their marks perfectly.
1702
01:20:38.010 --> 01:20:38.729
Yeah, it was awesome.
1703
01:20:39.229 --> 01:20:41.829
And the scene is really well done, too, because it
1704
01:20:42.189 --> 01:20:44.270
puts you at ease because he stomps through his house.
1705
01:20:44.310 --> 01:20:46.069
You feel like he's done a pretty thorough job. He
1706
01:20:46.149 --> 01:20:48.710
looks through that front door, that glass front door that
1707
01:20:48.770 --> 01:20:52.460
he's seen in, So you're like, okay, well, he's not there.
1708
01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:54.539
So whenever the guy turns his back and kind of
1709
01:20:54.579 --> 01:20:58.119
does that shout, like, who's there? You know, like, you're really,
1710
01:20:58.619 --> 01:21:01.050
you're sure he's already exhausted that. So you know there's
1711
01:21:01.090 --> 01:21:04.489
not going to be someone there. Motherfucker's there anyways, as
1712
01:21:04.529 --> 01:21:06.970
soon as he turns his back. So it's like, oh, dude,
1713
01:21:07.170 --> 01:21:08.930
perfectly timed, perfectly executed.
1714
01:21:09.890 --> 01:21:10.310
That was good.
1715
01:21:11.729 --> 01:21:16.039
Ah, yes. Love that. Flowers to that scene. All the flowers. But, uh.
1716
01:21:16.829 --> 01:21:19.630
Then to be thorough, or maybe because Aaron knows that
1717
01:21:19.770 --> 01:21:22.829
the cameraman never dies, he grabs his gear and goes
1718
01:21:22.850 --> 01:21:26.560
to look outside, and he hears something. After following it, though,
1719
01:21:26.569 --> 01:21:30.279
it turns out to be an overturned trash bin. Dang critters.
1720
01:21:30.739 --> 01:21:32.619
I don't know why he thought the cameraman never dies.
1721
01:21:32.659 --> 01:21:38.369
He's obviously never watched Scream. That's a pretty big oversight.
1722
01:21:39.430 --> 01:21:41.739
Yeah. That's a good point.
1723
01:21:41.939 --> 01:21:42.779
Yep.
1724
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:44.800
No notes.
1725
01:21:45.060 --> 01:21:46.000
Yep, no notes.
1726
01:21:46.020 --> 01:21:51.229
So, too funny. What happens next is a thing of
1727
01:21:51.289 --> 01:21:55.069
nightmares because literally, totally unbeknownst to Aaron, while he's asleep,
1728
01:21:55.829 --> 01:21:58.989
the creep sneaks into his home and records himself stealing
1729
01:21:59.050 --> 01:22:00.029
some of Aaron's hair.
1730
01:22:00.529 --> 01:22:02.489
Oh, man, this was so creepy.
1731
01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:03.569
Oh, I hate it.
1732
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:07.020
I love it because it's POV, of course, because it's
1733
01:22:07.060 --> 01:22:11.029
first person. And then as he kind of pans down,
1734
01:22:12.210 --> 01:22:15.899
we see this dude sleeping. We see another pair of
1735
01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:18.359
legs right there. So he's just laying next to him,
1736
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:20.100
just filming him.
1737
01:22:20.979 --> 01:22:23.859
I hate it so much.
1738
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:25.380
He's in his house.
1739
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:29.729
Again, that's just the stuff of nightmares, in my opinion. Yeah.
1740
01:22:30.350 --> 01:22:34.449
And it's done without any... special effects or anything. Like
1741
01:22:34.510 --> 01:22:38.600
it's just all in the performances and the, the writing.
1742
01:22:39.659 --> 01:22:40.600
Like that's so good.
1743
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:45.619
Sorry. I was watching our background footage. I get, you
1744
01:22:45.819 --> 01:22:47.220
just get sucked into.
1745
01:22:46.859 --> 01:22:49.119
The, that scene was playing right now and it's, yeah,
1746
01:22:49.340 --> 01:22:49.680
it was good.
1747
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:55.260
But then, um, whenever the regularly scheduled cameraman resumes filming,
1748
01:22:55.739 --> 01:22:59.739
he's unsettled for altogether other reasons. Joseph cut the screen
1749
01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:03.000
next to his bedroom window. He cut it open to
1750
01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:11.579
leave him a DVD, not tape, entitled My Last Video. Gotcha, motherfucker.
1751
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:17.020
Well, that's how I used to make mixtapes and stuff.
1752
01:23:17.189 --> 01:23:21.289
I would just cut the hole in the window and
1753
01:23:21.310 --> 01:23:23.430
just drop off a mixtape or a mix CD to
1754
01:23:24.069 --> 01:23:25.109
whoever I was interested in.
1755
01:23:25.109 --> 01:23:26.270
Damn, the 90s was crazy.
1756
01:23:26.289 --> 01:23:30.029
I don't know why they didn't call back. No, maybe.
1757
01:23:31.029 --> 01:23:32.329
I don't know. Maybe you think you're coming on just
1758
01:23:32.350 --> 01:23:33.329
a bit too strong or.
1759
01:23:34.260 --> 01:23:38.220
Maybe the encoding wasn't right on the disc. I have
1760
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:40.510
to go back and retool it.
1761
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:42.340
You know the meme where the guy with the long
1762
01:23:42.380 --> 01:23:44.159
face is like, he's got the shit-eating grin and he's
1763
01:23:44.180 --> 01:23:45.380
putting his hand on his buddy's shoulder.
1764
01:23:45.539 --> 01:23:50.390
Yeah, yeah. It's that one. Yeah, the bro one. Yeah. Bro.
1765
01:23:51.970 --> 01:23:55.289
Yep. All right. I'm going to take a deep breath
1766
01:23:55.310 --> 01:23:57.090
because this is kind of a long stretch here I have.
1767
01:23:58.590 --> 01:24:02.270
As expected... The video is an emotional rollercoaster with Joseph
1768
01:24:02.380 --> 01:24:04.819
first lashing out after finding the locket that he made
1769
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:07.159
for Aaron in the trash bin, followed by the creep
1770
01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:10.479
appearing to have a rare moment of self-awareness once he
1771
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:13.060
started to become scared of his own dark thoughts about
1772
01:24:13.100 --> 01:24:17.989
how he'd respond. After some reflection, Joe realized that he
1773
01:24:18.010 --> 01:24:20.890
and Aaron aren't friends, but he wants to be honest
1774
01:24:20.909 --> 01:24:23.569
with him now, so he starts to confess how he's
1775
01:24:23.609 --> 01:24:26.350
been a bit off his whole life. He can't stop
1776
01:24:26.390 --> 01:24:29.220
himself from lying and pretending, so He figured he'd try
1777
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.779
to be an actor at one point, but that didn't
1778
01:24:31.819 --> 01:24:35.340
work because it wasn't real enough for him to, quote,
1779
01:24:35.659 --> 01:24:40.760
get off on his words. Then he turned to medication,
1780
01:24:40.899 --> 01:24:43.430
but that didn't really work either. So he continued spiraling
1781
01:24:43.449 --> 01:24:47.210
downward until eventually he exhausted all of his relationships with
1782
01:24:47.270 --> 01:24:50.630
his friends and family. Interesting.
1783
01:24:50.670 --> 01:24:51.189
Interesting.
1784
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:54.159
Yeah, how are you feeling about the tapes so far?
1785
01:24:54.899 --> 01:24:59.319
It's an unhinged rant of a crazy person that needs
1786
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:03.430
to be, you know, talk to somebody, a mental health
1787
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:08.430
therapist or something, because he's obviously got something incredibly insane
1788
01:25:08.470 --> 01:25:08.909
going on.
1789
01:25:09.270 --> 01:25:12.890
Yeah, he is clearly detached from reality at this point.
1790
01:25:13.130 --> 01:25:16.250
Yeah, and like I said, we kind of, like, I'm
1791
01:25:16.289 --> 01:25:19.750
not terribly surprised because I kind of at some point
1792
01:25:19.810 --> 01:25:22.760
knew somebody that was kind of, like, showing signs of this.
1793
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:26.420
It was like, Oh fuck. Like it's, yeah, it's crazy.
1794
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:28.439
That's why I like some of the red flags and stuff.
1795
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:33.319
We're just like, Oh man, like it's unsettling. Like you said,
1796
01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:36.079
just weird. And the fact that this guy goes from
1797
01:25:36.890 --> 01:25:40.710
being mad about finding the locket in the trash, like
1798
01:25:41.770 --> 01:25:42.989
who cares at that point?
1799
01:25:43.050 --> 01:25:43.310
Right.
1800
01:25:43.409 --> 01:25:47.149
Like you're crazy. But also then to then talk about like, Oh,
1801
01:25:47.170 --> 01:25:49.210
we tried all these things that didn't work. We probably
1802
01:25:49.229 --> 01:25:52.140
didn't try them very long or, You didn't do much.
1803
01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:53.640
Or it's all bullshit.
1804
01:25:54.140 --> 01:25:54.979
I think it's all bullshit.
1805
01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:57.220
Exactly. Exactly, yeah.
1806
01:25:57.539 --> 01:26:00.239
But he does look so sincere and forlorn and sad
1807
01:26:00.260 --> 01:26:02.699
at this point. So there is just, like I said,
1808
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:06.609
there's this rare moment of what appears to be self-awareness.
1809
01:26:06.630 --> 01:26:10.630
Because he's a master manipulator, though. So he could reveal
1810
01:26:10.710 --> 01:26:12.829
in a moment of weakness, he could reveal something about
1811
01:26:12.869 --> 01:26:15.350
himself to get you pulled back in. I think that's
1812
01:26:15.390 --> 01:26:17.880
the genius of this movie, is it's a constant push
1813
01:26:17.909 --> 01:26:22.359
and pull between these two characters. Because... you know, he's
1814
01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:25.340
pulling him back in with this, you know, like Aaron
1815
01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:29.760
has pushed him away and Joseph is using this, this
1816
01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:33.689
self deprecating, you know, pity and vulnerability to pull it
1817
01:26:33.699 --> 01:26:34.100
back in.
1818
01:26:34.430 --> 01:26:37.449
Yeah. And that's a fantastic point. Cause he had originally
1819
01:26:37.810 --> 01:26:40.550
got to lean on that like bullshit cancer thing or
1820
01:26:40.569 --> 01:26:43.270
the inoperable tumor going on, but that's obviously like run
1821
01:26:43.289 --> 01:26:46.069
its course and he won't buy that. So now he's
1822
01:26:46.109 --> 01:26:47.289
like a shift of tactics.
1823
01:26:47.449 --> 01:26:48.229
Yeah, totally.
1824
01:26:49.260 --> 01:26:53.619
God, so fucking good. But after that confession, Joseph then
1825
01:26:53.779 --> 01:26:56.470
desperately pleads for Aaron to be a sympathetic ear to
1826
01:26:56.510 --> 01:26:59.109
talk with, and he even recognizes that Aaron has no
1827
01:26:59.149 --> 01:27:01.310
reason to trust him, and he's hoping our hero is
1828
01:27:01.350 --> 01:27:03.949
kind enough that he meets up again anyways so Joe
1829
01:27:03.970 --> 01:27:06.930
can explain himself at least. He goes on to show
1830
01:27:07.010 --> 01:27:10.479
Aaron that he'll be in a totally safe, wide-open park
1831
01:27:10.500 --> 01:27:13.560
nearby if he wants to meet up tomorrow, and Joseph
1832
01:27:13.619 --> 01:27:16.960
reassures that it's fine if they decide to part ways afterwards,
1833
01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:20.609
but again, he's basically... begging for Aaron to be there. Hmm.
1834
01:27:23.020 --> 01:27:26.689
Yeah. Just again, he, Aaron now is kind of, he's,
1835
01:27:26.890 --> 01:27:29.850
he's already invested, you know, this point, like the camera
1836
01:27:29.869 --> 01:27:32.130
turns back on him real quick and he's just, you
1837
01:27:32.170 --> 01:27:34.149
see him just kind of that resignation, right?
1838
01:27:34.329 --> 01:27:36.130
I'm just like, what the fuck am I supposed to
1839
01:27:36.170 --> 01:27:37.130
do now? Yeah.
1840
01:27:38.770 --> 01:27:42.409
This guy knows where you live. He's sending new shit. Like,
1841
01:27:42.510 --> 01:27:43.029
what do you do?
1842
01:27:43.810 --> 01:27:47.000
And they buy his words there. If you take them at, as,
1843
01:27:47.100 --> 01:27:49.789
as words, He says it'll be fine to part ways
1844
01:27:49.949 --> 01:27:53.270
after this one last conversation. If he explains why he
1845
01:27:53.310 --> 01:27:57.170
did everything, he's probably ready to just bury the hatchet
1846
01:27:57.189 --> 01:27:58.069
here and just move on.
1847
01:27:59.369 --> 01:28:00.380
Funny choice of words.
1848
01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:04.000
Oh, with the axe earlier? Yeah. That's pretty good.
1849
01:28:05.140 --> 01:28:06.560
He said he wanted to bury the hatchet.
1850
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:07.079
Yeah.
1851
01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:08.039
All right.
1852
01:28:08.899 --> 01:28:12.699
Why not? That's what he said. It'll be done. If
1853
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:14.699
he wants to part ways afterward, he says he's fine
1854
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:15.039
with it.
1855
01:28:15.079 --> 01:28:15.279
Yeah.
1856
01:28:15.420 --> 01:28:18.159
Whether we believe him. That'll be an altogether different story.
1857
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:20.739
We got to see how it ends up.
1858
01:28:21.340 --> 01:28:28.020
Right, right. So the camera next activates while filming that
1859
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:31.210
wide open park. And as a means to reassure himself,
1860
01:28:32.750 --> 01:28:37.109
Aaron indirectly addresses Joe via the camera to explain that
1861
01:28:37.510 --> 01:28:40.409
he is here, but he's recording everything. and he has
1862
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:44.420
his phone ready to dial 911. And, yeah, Wes, why
1863
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:48.380
don't you tell everybody what happens from here?
1864
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:52.119
Well, we got just a static shot here of Aaron
1865
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:55.119
just kind of walking out to this bench. We're at, like,
1866
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:58.600
a park, and there's a lake right there with some
1867
01:28:58.619 --> 01:29:01.880
houses across from the lake, you know, up in the Hills, um,
1868
01:29:01.979 --> 01:29:05.060
just a nice little area. And Aaron just kind of
1869
01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:07.100
sits down on this bench and he's kind of looking
1870
01:29:07.119 --> 01:29:11.579
around a little bit and nothing's really happening. And then
1871
01:29:11.619 --> 01:29:14.850
all of a sudden we see, uh, Joseph kind of
1872
01:29:15.010 --> 01:29:17.300
stroll up behind him, kind of silently walk up.
1873
01:29:18.289 --> 01:29:20.390
And I will say for the audio part, there is
1874
01:29:20.409 --> 01:29:22.869
some like work being done. There's some like chainsaws. So
1875
01:29:22.909 --> 01:29:25.300
there's some like park maintenance maybe being done in the,
1876
01:29:25.470 --> 01:29:26.310
in the vicinity.
1877
01:29:26.789 --> 01:29:29.350
It's a typical day at like a city park or something, right?
1878
01:29:29.510 --> 01:29:32.430
You can't see it happening, but you just hear that
1879
01:29:32.449 --> 01:29:33.340
there's noise going on.
1880
01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:37.100
Just the sounds, yeah. But yeah, then all of a
1881
01:29:37.119 --> 01:29:43.500
sudden we have Joseph and he's wearing like a coat,
1882
01:29:43.619 --> 01:29:48.840
like a trench coat or something. Takes the mask of
1883
01:29:49.979 --> 01:29:52.949
peach fuzz, takes the peach fuzz mask out and puts
1884
01:29:52.989 --> 01:29:54.060
the peach fuzz mask on.
1885
01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:56.380
Like routinely, it feels almost.
1886
01:29:56.579 --> 01:29:57.899
Yeah.
1887
01:29:57.960 --> 01:29:58.180
Yeah.
1888
01:29:58.220 --> 01:30:02.819
Very practiced. Very, very precise. And then I was thinking,
1889
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.420
because I'm like, he's got an axe or something under
1890
01:30:05.460 --> 01:30:05.819
his coat.
1891
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:06.520
Right.
1892
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:08.560
And pulls an axe out of his coat.
1893
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:09.399
Oh, shit.
1894
01:30:09.500 --> 01:30:15.260
Yeah. And then, yeah. What you think is going to
1895
01:30:15.300 --> 01:30:17.439
happen then proceeds to happen.
1896
01:30:17.460 --> 01:30:19.140
It does. It's like the thing that.
1897
01:30:19.340 --> 01:30:20.189
Buries the hatchet.
1898
01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:26.550
Yeah. Sure does. Yep. Yep. Very nice. Yep. I, I,
1899
01:30:26.689 --> 01:30:28.729
I will, uh, I'll tip my own cap at that one.
1900
01:30:28.750 --> 01:30:28.970
Yeah.
1901
01:30:29.050 --> 01:30:29.649
I like that.
1902
01:30:29.909 --> 01:30:30.630
Yeah. Yeah.
1903
01:30:30.930 --> 01:30:33.569
So he seriously just digs it right into his head
1904
01:30:33.609 --> 01:30:36.149
and it's so crazy. Cause like in most movies, like
1905
01:30:36.649 --> 01:30:38.090
they set up how the bad guy's going to win.
1906
01:30:38.149 --> 01:30:40.350
And like the whole shtick is like, well, how do
1907
01:30:40.380 --> 01:30:44.119
you circumvent it? But this isn't that movie. He just
1908
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:46.720
seriously just kills him.
1909
01:30:46.939 --> 01:30:51.180
Yeah. What was, what was like, um, Heron's the character.
1910
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:52.060
What was the actor's name?
1911
01:30:52.399 --> 01:30:53.000
Patrick Bryce.
1912
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:57.060
Patrick Bryce. That's right. Yeah. I mean, kudos to him
1913
01:30:57.119 --> 01:30:58.890
as a method actor because this is the last thing
1914
01:30:58.899 --> 01:31:01.210
he did. This is the last thing they filmed.
1915
01:31:01.310 --> 01:31:02.869
I don't know how you keep getting me with those.
1916
01:31:02.890 --> 01:31:05.310
I don't know. I don't know how you keep walking
1917
01:31:05.350 --> 01:31:05.670
into them.
1918
01:31:05.949 --> 01:31:08.210
I don't know. I should know they're coming now, but
1919
01:31:08.250 --> 01:31:11.090
I'm expecting some insightful commentary.
1920
01:31:11.130 --> 01:31:13.130
It's like what we're talking about with this movie. It's
1921
01:31:13.170 --> 01:31:14.789
so obvious that you still fall for it.
1922
01:31:15.260 --> 01:31:17.640
Okay, maybe I'm going to play the victim in our
1923
01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:19.550
creep spin-off.
1924
01:31:19.590 --> 01:31:21.850
I'll be like, Rhett, you need to watch this movie,
1925
01:31:21.890 --> 01:31:23.489
and then I'll just go get an axe from the
1926
01:31:23.510 --> 01:31:26.670
other side of the basement. Let's bring it over. At
1927
01:31:26.710 --> 01:31:29.069
that point, we're just at American Psycho. I might as
1928
01:31:29.090 --> 01:31:30.430
well just turn on Huey Lewis.
1929
01:31:32.270 --> 01:31:34.189
Well, if I come over one time for a recording,
1930
01:31:34.229 --> 01:31:35.590
there's plastic sheets up everywhere.
1931
01:31:35.630 --> 01:31:37.649
I'm getting the fuck out. Yeah, you might know if
1932
01:31:37.670 --> 01:31:38.689
something's up at that point.
1933
01:31:40.750 --> 01:31:41.390
Yeah.
1934
01:31:42.829 --> 01:31:43.329
Sadly.
1935
01:31:43.899 --> 01:31:49.489
Axe to the head. Yeah, he dies. Dang. But, yeah,
1936
01:31:49.609 --> 01:31:51.289
and sadly, we don't cut to black from there, though.
1937
01:31:51.310 --> 01:31:53.810
That was another bait and switch moment where it was
1938
01:31:53.890 --> 01:31:58.210
actually Joseph just sort of, like, video diarying himself and
1939
01:31:58.270 --> 01:32:01.310
his thoughts on Aaron, how it was, you know, smart
1940
01:32:01.340 --> 01:32:03.180
that he recorded and he had his phone ready, but
1941
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:06.380
he's been wondering why our hero never turned around.
1942
01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:11.140
Yeah. Oh, man, isn't that creepy? Like, the creep gets
1943
01:32:11.180 --> 01:32:11.979
the final word.
1944
01:32:12.819 --> 01:32:14.720
I hate that. Yeah. I hate that he wins.
1945
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:17.869
Yeah. And then I think to myself, like in character,
1946
01:32:17.970 --> 01:32:21.989
like that, like that must've been like just the biggest
1947
01:32:22.090 --> 01:32:24.979
rush for him to like find that video and then
1948
01:32:25.060 --> 01:32:28.840
watch it. And he probably watched it a hundred times already. Right. Um,
1949
01:32:29.359 --> 01:32:31.840
just supreme creepiness at this point.
1950
01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:34.260
Yeah. And you know, I didn't, I'm glad you actually
1951
01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:37.430
mentioned that because yeah, there's probably not a whole lot
1952
01:32:37.449 --> 01:32:39.989
of other people that, you know, gave him that perspective
1953
01:32:40.090 --> 01:32:42.550
of it. So what he, what happens next makes a
1954
01:32:42.569 --> 01:32:45.399
lot more sense now. Um, You know, whenever he wondered,
1955
01:32:45.420 --> 01:32:46.800
you know, as I said, he wondered why our hero
1956
01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:50.020
never turned around. He's finally come to the conclusion that
1957
01:32:50.939 --> 01:32:52.939
it was because Aaron was just the greatest person that
1958
01:32:52.979 --> 01:32:56.479
ever lived. And ultimately, he didn't turn around because despite
1959
01:32:56.699 --> 01:32:59.329
all that Joseph had done, our hero still believed that
1960
01:32:59.369 --> 01:33:03.590
he was good. You know, he trusted him. But whether
1961
01:33:03.630 --> 01:33:06.729
that's accurate or not, though, Aaron's questionable behavior has apparently
1962
01:33:06.829 --> 01:33:10.350
solidified him as the creep's favorite victim of all. uh,
1963
01:33:10.430 --> 01:33:13.449
for whatever that's worth. And then Joseph makes a hell
1964
01:33:13.510 --> 01:33:16.649
of a strange noise as he finishes the tape, you know,
1965
01:33:16.670 --> 01:33:19.050
followed by a final jump scare. I think he gets
1966
01:33:19.109 --> 01:33:20.550
jump scared by his own self.
1967
01:33:20.729 --> 01:33:21.090
He does.
1968
01:33:21.109 --> 01:33:24.750
Jump scaring in Aaron's tape of the killing. So it's
1969
01:33:24.890 --> 01:33:25.310
so funny.
1970
01:33:25.569 --> 01:33:26.170
It's so funny.
1971
01:33:26.210 --> 01:33:26.409
Yeah.
1972
01:33:26.449 --> 01:33:29.130
Because yeah. So he buries the ax in, in the
1973
01:33:29.170 --> 01:33:35.029
back of Aaron's head and then he's given his, his own, uh, vlog, right. Just, uh,
1974
01:33:35.189 --> 01:33:38.689
narrating everything. And then he cuts back cause the, you know,
1975
01:33:38.699 --> 01:33:42.869
Aaron's camera is still playing. So in the video, you know,
1976
01:33:42.909 --> 01:33:45.310
Joseph jump scared the camera, but then he falls for
1977
01:33:45.369 --> 01:33:46.590
his own jump scare.
1978
01:33:46.710 --> 01:33:49.710
He falls for falling for your own fucking jumps.
1979
01:33:49.890 --> 01:33:51.390
That's a fun bit. Great.
1980
01:33:51.470 --> 01:33:52.390
That's hilarious.
1981
01:33:52.470 --> 01:33:52.710
Yeah.
1982
01:33:53.449 --> 01:33:55.289
I couldn't ever think of anything that funny in my life.
1983
01:33:55.329 --> 01:33:56.310
That's a good bit. So good.
1984
01:33:57.130 --> 01:34:00.029
Man. But, uh, yeah, what you just said there, um,
1985
01:34:00.390 --> 01:34:04.270
kind of, um, I guess further explains like why he
1986
01:34:04.289 --> 01:34:06.409
would be his favorite. Like I said, he solidified himself
1987
01:34:06.470 --> 01:34:08.569
as the creep's favorite victim. And maybe that is because,
1988
01:34:08.609 --> 01:34:10.430
you know, not only their interactions, but he had that
1989
01:34:10.510 --> 01:34:13.569
final kind of gratuitous shot that he gets to enjoy watching.
1990
01:34:13.930 --> 01:34:17.399
Yeah. Maybe that was the only time out of all
1991
01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:22.180
the people that he's killed that the person didn't turn around.
1992
01:34:22.899 --> 01:34:24.640
You know, it's funny you mentioned all the people he's
1993
01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:27.560
killed because we don't end there.
1994
01:34:27.579 --> 01:34:27.640
No.
1995
01:34:29.489 --> 01:34:33.069
Because right after Joseph adds Aaron's DVD to a horde
1996
01:34:33.109 --> 01:34:35.300
of other victims that goes all the way back to
1997
01:34:35.310 --> 01:34:38.020
the 90s, he gets another phone call under the new
1998
01:34:38.140 --> 01:34:41.800
alias of Bill, and then he tells his new buddy
1999
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:46.060
that all the details of the cameraman job, and the
2000
01:34:46.100 --> 01:34:46.979
cycle continues.
2001
01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:51.100
Yeah, under a different name, but the closet is full
2002
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:55.659
of VHS tapes and DVDs, and they all have names
2003
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:58.689
written on them. And they're all filed that way. But
2004
01:34:58.729 --> 01:35:01.119
then Aaron's, then he draws a big heart on it.
2005
01:35:01.630 --> 01:35:01.869
Right.
2006
01:35:02.109 --> 01:35:06.189
And has it, like, displayed front and center. So, yeah, man.
2007
01:35:06.220 --> 01:35:07.260
All the tapes. Huh?
2008
01:35:07.449 --> 01:35:07.939
All the tapes.
2009
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:11.600
All the tapes, yeah. What an ending. Holy shit.
2010
01:35:12.260 --> 01:35:12.739
I know, man.
2011
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:13.300
Fantastic.
2012
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:17.239
The whole movie, like, just from its premise to its
2013
01:35:17.300 --> 01:35:19.640
execution to, you know, just chef's kiss.
2014
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:21.100
Yeah, it's incredible.
2015
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:23.699
I cannot believe this one flew under your radar for
2016
01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:23.859
so long.
2017
01:35:23.939 --> 01:35:28.819
I know. I can't believe that I didn't know about this.
2018
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:31.720
I don't know why I didn't, but what an amazing
2019
01:35:31.779 --> 01:35:32.729
discovery this has been.
2020
01:35:32.930 --> 01:35:34.630
This felt like whenever you showed me Dark City. I
2021
01:35:34.930 --> 01:35:37.010
was like, how the fuck did I not see this movie?
2022
01:35:37.149 --> 01:35:40.810
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, recently, speaking of that,
2023
01:35:40.970 --> 01:35:46.100
I showed Grandma's Boy to some friends recently that, were
2024
01:35:46.140 --> 01:35:48.859
big into, you know, 2000s comedies and stuff like that.
2025
01:35:48.979 --> 01:35:50.560
That's a sin that they hadn't seen that.
2026
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:53.880
Yeah. Like, and they loved it and they're like, uh,
2027
01:35:54.020 --> 01:35:56.579
you know, how, how did they, uh, how do we
2028
01:35:56.619 --> 01:35:57.859
miss this? You know?
2029
01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:00.819
So, yeah, that one is just like a huge blind
2030
01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:03.050
spot on the resume. If you haven't ever watched grandma's
2031
01:36:03.090 --> 01:36:04.930
boy into that genre.
2032
01:36:05.170 --> 01:36:07.289
Totally. Yeah. Good shit.
2033
01:36:07.609 --> 01:36:12.550
So, uh, yeah, honestly, there's not a whole lot on
2034
01:36:12.590 --> 01:36:15.750
the trivia. Um, really uh what a lot of people
2035
01:36:15.770 --> 01:36:19.350
you know discuss is there's uh you know kind of
2036
01:36:19.390 --> 01:36:22.310
details that i already kind of incorporated into the script
2037
01:36:23.710 --> 01:36:27.590
but um what's notable is that the film was basically
2038
01:36:27.630 --> 01:36:30.050
like bare bones outline there's like oh it's almost all
2039
01:36:30.130 --> 01:36:34.270
improv and it was kind of shot you know you
2040
01:36:34.289 --> 01:36:36.329
know initially under the the intention that it could be
2041
01:36:36.350 --> 01:36:38.470
a comedy but you know after you know they just
2042
01:36:38.489 --> 01:36:40.930
had so much footage on their hand um they realized
2043
01:36:40.970 --> 01:36:43.439
it kind of goes into a horror direction and they
2044
01:36:43.460 --> 01:36:45.260
kind of lean more into the horror side. But there
2045
01:36:45.380 --> 01:36:47.880
are a lot of jokes and funny moments throughout the movie.
2046
01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:50.880
I can see, you know, the DNA of it maybe starting,
2047
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:52.600
you know, more comedy leaning than horror.
2048
01:36:52.619 --> 01:36:55.979
Yeah, but like you said, disarming. So keeping the humor
2049
01:36:56.810 --> 01:36:59.949
really worked for it, though, because then they were able
2050
01:37:00.069 --> 01:37:01.449
to make it seem weirder.
2051
01:37:02.210 --> 01:37:02.489
Right.
2052
01:37:02.649 --> 01:37:04.529
So it might not have been the intention at first.
2053
01:37:05.029 --> 01:37:07.850
But yeah, what came out of it then was like, oh,
2054
01:37:07.890 --> 01:37:08.510
this is even better.
2055
01:37:08.729 --> 01:37:10.390
Came looking for copper and found gold.
2056
01:37:10.430 --> 01:37:11.609
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2057
01:37:12.489 --> 01:37:14.770
Yeah, they had like basically only they said like a
2058
01:37:15.060 --> 01:37:18.760
five page outline for the movie. Most of it is
2059
01:37:20.140 --> 01:37:24.260
improvised and there's a few different endings. But, you know,
2060
01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:25.159
we only have the one.
2061
01:37:25.180 --> 01:37:28.960
That's what gives it its authenticity, right? I mean, it's
2062
01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:32.239
it's the same that it's by Blair Witch caught on
2063
01:37:32.460 --> 01:37:34.659
as such a phenomenon because it was just it felt
2064
01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:38.479
the characters felt so authentic and relatable. And it was
2065
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:41.409
probably because a lot of the dialogue was just improvised.
2066
01:37:41.930 --> 01:37:44.550
the same here. Cause it just, it gives that natural
2067
01:37:44.630 --> 01:37:47.229
sort of, uh, feeling of it, you know? Yeah.
2068
01:37:47.270 --> 01:37:49.920
And I think, uh, that's another thing that we haven't
2069
01:37:49.939 --> 01:37:52.920
really touched on. Like there's a huge benefit whenever there's
2070
01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:55.399
those two actors, you know, having, or not two actors
2071
01:37:55.420 --> 01:37:57.520
to like creators, you know, either one guy writing a
2072
01:37:57.520 --> 01:37:59.449
direct and, or like a couple of people co-writing and
2073
01:37:59.489 --> 01:38:00.329
directing in this case.
2074
01:38:00.550 --> 01:38:00.710
Yeah.
2075
01:38:00.850 --> 01:38:03.600
Like, they know exactly what they want out of this
2076
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:05.600
movie and where the story's going and things like that,
2077
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:08.279
so they have so much more room than if you're, like,
2078
01:38:08.319 --> 01:38:10.539
working with, like, a huge team of people and, you know,
2079
01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:11.659
all the different studio hands.
2080
01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:15.640
Yeah, they're sticking to their vision, which is, you know,
2081
01:38:15.819 --> 01:38:19.430
kind of, like, interesting and unique. And so, yeah, that's
2082
01:38:19.470 --> 01:38:22.329
why this movie was probably made, because it was like, okay,
2083
01:38:22.350 --> 01:38:24.189
this is a solid premise and it doesn't cost much.
2084
01:38:24.489 --> 01:38:25.109
Let's see what you got.
2085
01:38:25.350 --> 01:38:27.369
Yeah, like, we'll just fucking riff until we have a
2086
01:38:27.390 --> 01:38:28.130
good movie on our hands.
2087
01:38:28.810 --> 01:38:32.880
Yeah, but it works. i think it's fantastic uh kudos
2088
01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:36.750
to to this dude um i keep blanking on his
2089
01:38:36.789 --> 01:38:39.909
name but patrick bryce uh yeah and the other guy
2090
01:38:39.930 --> 01:38:44.630
uh mark duplass yeah mark duplass like yeah d-u-p-l-a just
2091
01:38:44.670 --> 01:38:49.119
carries the movie for real yeah I mentioned earlier, but
2092
01:38:49.220 --> 01:38:51.930
I seriously could not imagine another person being in this movie.
2093
01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:54.350
Like, it's so curated for this guy.
2094
01:38:54.550 --> 01:38:58.909
Yeah. But also, too, I could see a potential for, like, other...
2095
01:38:59.090 --> 01:39:00.569
You said there's a second movie?
2096
01:39:00.850 --> 01:39:04.789
Yeah, there's Creep 2, and then there is a TV
2097
01:39:04.810 --> 01:39:09.210
show called The Creep Tapes. Okay. Which I remember watching
2098
01:39:09.229 --> 01:39:11.510
Creep 2 kind of a while ago and thinking, like,
2099
01:39:12.060 --> 01:39:14.399
It was pretty on caliber with the first, but I've
2100
01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:15.220
not seen the creep tapes.
2101
01:39:15.420 --> 01:39:18.180
Yeah, I could go for a few more movies like this.
2102
01:39:18.579 --> 01:39:21.939
This could be a solid little series because the concept
2103
01:39:21.979 --> 01:39:25.350
is interesting because you can apply creepiness to a lot
2104
01:39:25.430 --> 01:39:27.229
of ways.
2105
01:39:27.850 --> 01:39:31.229
Yeah, and the character, you know breadcrumbs about this guy,
2106
01:39:31.289 --> 01:39:33.430
so you can seriously just put him in any weird
2107
01:39:33.510 --> 01:39:37.130
situation and just keep him a blank slate, a mysterious
2108
01:39:37.630 --> 01:39:38.130
kind of character.
2109
01:39:38.409 --> 01:39:43.310
Yeah, and as... as technology changes and stuff like that, like, um,
2110
01:39:43.939 --> 01:39:46.939
you could do different things with the theme, you know,
2111
01:39:46.979 --> 01:39:50.539
kind of like how in scream seven, they, uh, I
2112
01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:55.279
like the, the AI recreation of, uh, Matthew Lillard's character. Right.
2113
01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:58.590
I was thinking of the, um, the sinister movies where
2114
01:39:58.630 --> 01:40:01.989
there's like the, um, like the super eight sort of
2115
01:40:02.050 --> 01:40:03.550
like film reel things.
2116
01:40:03.590 --> 01:40:04.010
Yeah.
2117
01:40:04.069 --> 01:40:06.569
So, you know, there are actually RVHS tapes, so you
2118
01:40:06.590 --> 01:40:08.880
could do like, you know, more anthology style where you
2119
01:40:08.909 --> 01:40:12.149
check out this, This VHS tape and then this video,
2120
01:40:12.189 --> 01:40:13.069
this DVD.
2121
01:40:13.350 --> 01:40:16.609
Yeah, that's something that could come back again as a
2122
01:40:16.689 --> 01:40:20.470
plot hook, right? Like a haunted VHS tape or whatever.
2123
01:40:21.750 --> 01:40:24.289
Actually, that reminds me, this is probably not the time
2124
01:40:24.329 --> 01:40:27.189
or place to have this conversation, but I just now
2125
01:40:27.270 --> 01:40:30.279
realize that VHS Halloween is a movie and I don't
2126
01:40:30.300 --> 01:40:31.939
think we've seen that one.
2127
01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:33.119
VHS Halloween?
2128
01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:34.399
Yeah, there's a new VHS out.
2129
01:40:35.699 --> 01:40:37.229
Oh, like the series VHS?
2130
01:40:37.270 --> 01:40:37.670
Yeah, yeah.
2131
01:40:37.930 --> 01:40:40.609
Oh, okay. Yeah, I haven't caught up on, I think
2132
01:40:40.649 --> 01:40:42.510
I maybe only seen the first, maybe the second one.
2133
01:40:42.569 --> 01:40:43.550
I don't know how many there are.
2134
01:40:43.770 --> 01:40:47.670
Yeah, we watched like VHS, what, 94, whichever one that was,
2135
01:40:47.970 --> 01:40:49.189
whenever that came out on Shudder.
2136
01:40:49.409 --> 01:40:51.130
Yeah, maybe I watched that one too. I don't remember
2137
01:40:51.180 --> 01:40:52.180
a lot of them, so.
2138
01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:55.159
Yeah, so we, like speaking of found footage, we need
2139
01:40:55.180 --> 01:40:59.220
to see what new found, how new stuff stacks to creep. Yeah.
2140
01:40:59.380 --> 01:41:00.460
We have a good baseline here.
2141
01:41:00.699 --> 01:41:01.699
That's true. That's true.
2142
01:41:03.010 --> 01:41:05.810
But, yeah, man, do you have any closing thoughts or
2143
01:41:05.829 --> 01:41:07.409
any ratings that you want to give Creep? I don't
2144
01:41:07.430 --> 01:41:09.220
think I have too much else. You know, we've gushed
2145
01:41:09.229 --> 01:41:10.220
about this movie enough.
2146
01:41:10.060 --> 01:41:12.880
For the run time. I think it was a super
2147
01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:14.939
solid recommendation, so I'm glad you showed it to me
2148
01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:20.520
because this is right in my wheelhouse of just weird strangeness, but,
2149
01:41:21.060 --> 01:41:24.220
you know, something that was kind of just collaborated and
2150
01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:27.539
created by a couple of dudes that had a solid
2151
01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:30.579
concept on their hands. So it was super enjoyable.
2152
01:41:31.180 --> 01:41:32.739
Yeah, they struck gold.
2153
01:41:33.100 --> 01:41:35.560
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm excited to see the second one. I
2154
01:41:35.619 --> 01:41:38.680
hope they continue doing some stuff.
2155
01:41:39.859 --> 01:41:41.300
Well, it did well enough to get a TV show,
2156
01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:41.720
at least.
2157
01:41:41.779 --> 01:41:42.479
Yeah, that's true.
2158
01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:43.890
It didn't burn the franchise.
2159
01:41:44.100 --> 01:41:44.510
That's true.
2160
01:41:44.789 --> 01:41:45.729
It did well enough.
2161
01:41:46.010 --> 01:41:46.170
Mm-hmm.
2162
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:50.380
But, yeah, I'm super thankful that Tracy even put this
2163
01:41:50.460 --> 01:41:52.560
on my radar to begin with. Yeah. And I'm able to,
2164
01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:54.659
you know, pass it on, in which case you're able
2165
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to then pay for it and pass it on to
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someone else.
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01:41:57.279 --> 01:41:58.739
Yeah, that's the only way to get rid of the
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creep is to pass it on to somebody else.
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Right, yeah, if you don't, Mark Duplass will show up
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at night.
2171
01:42:03.090 --> 01:42:03.670
Yeah, yeah.
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I've been dealing with this for years.
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Right, yeah.
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I'm happy to pass him off to someone else.
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01:42:07.989 --> 01:42:09.750
He's just in your window just looking at you.
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01:42:10.409 --> 01:42:11.750
I think I might miss him at this point.
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01:42:11.829 --> 01:42:12.109
Right.
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Mark, Mark, come back. Marky, come back.
2179
01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:20.130
Yep. Yup. That's good. Good stuff.
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Yeah.
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01:42:20.390 --> 01:42:23.350
That was, that was super fun. I recommend for sure.
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If you're a horror fan.
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01:42:24.689 --> 01:42:26.890
Yeah. I think we're both on like solid buys for
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01:42:26.930 --> 01:42:27.310
this one.
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01:42:27.350 --> 01:42:27.869
Yeah, for sure.
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01:42:28.489 --> 01:42:32.229
You know, there's very rarely, I think, do we, we
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01:42:32.250 --> 01:42:35.789
both get like this sucked into a movie. So solid pick,
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01:42:35.810 --> 01:42:38.470
especially we're in season for this type of spookiness. Yeah.
2189
01:42:38.670 --> 01:42:41.289
And for a found footage film to really, uh, to
2190
01:42:41.329 --> 01:42:43.380
hook me like that. I was surprised. So it was good.
2191
01:42:43.689 --> 01:42:47.130
Yes. Yeah. But I think we have something pretty interesting
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for next week, don't we? Yeah.
2193
01:42:48.449 --> 01:42:51.060
So next week, we're going to welcome back to the
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01:42:51.069 --> 01:42:56.560
show frequent guest collaborator Brian Niemeyer. So that's going to
2195
01:42:56.579 --> 01:43:00.500
be awesome. Let's go, Brian. Yeah. He's here to talk
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01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:04.659
about some fun stuff. And also, we let him choose
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the movie. So we're going to be talking about The
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01:43:07.380 --> 01:43:10.920
Chronicles of Riddick. And there's going to be a couple
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01:43:10.939 --> 01:43:14.859
of specific reasons why. So stay tuned. uh, you know,
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01:43:15.140 --> 01:43:18.520
Brian episodes are always fun because, uh, you know, they're,
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01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:21.380
they're deep dives into fun movies and Chronicles of Riddick
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01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:24.180
is a super fun movie. I'm excited to explore again. I.
2203
01:43:24.859 --> 01:43:28.430
Yeah, man, I totally agree. I did, um, pitch black
2204
01:43:28.850 --> 01:43:31.470
on movies in a bottle a little while ago and
2205
01:43:31.609 --> 01:43:34.390
I've been itching to like continue the series again. You know,
2206
01:43:34.430 --> 01:43:36.909
I've seen Chronicles of Riddick, but it's been so long. Same.
2207
01:43:37.229 --> 01:43:39.430
Yeah. It's one of those movies that you think about
2208
01:43:39.489 --> 01:43:41.189
every few years. You're like, Oh shit.
2209
01:43:41.260 --> 01:43:41.380
Yeah.
2210
01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:42.880
I haven't seen that for a minute. Right.
2211
01:43:43.180 --> 01:43:45.750
Yeah. I need to get, you know, make the rounds.
2212
01:43:45.770 --> 01:43:48.930
Yeah. So stay tuned. We're going to try to get
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01:43:48.970 --> 01:43:53.770
that out next week at some point. So stay tuned.
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01:43:54.130 --> 01:43:56.529
That'll be a good time. We will be catching you
2215
01:43:56.550 --> 01:43:58.970
guys then. Excited to have you guys coming back. Taking
2216
01:43:58.989 --> 01:44:00.890
just a tiny little break for spooky season. But, you know,
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01:44:00.949 --> 01:44:03.520
after the Brian episode, we'll be back with more, you know,
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01:44:04.140 --> 01:44:05.140
horror goodness for you.
2219
01:44:05.300 --> 01:44:09.220
Oh yeah, absolutely. Give the, give the listeners what they want. So, uh,
2220
01:44:09.260 --> 01:44:11.600
I love talking about horror films. So yeah, there's plenty
2221
01:44:11.619 --> 01:44:14.640
to dissect and talk about and compare. So, uh, we're
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01:44:14.659 --> 01:44:17.619
here for it. So, uh, anyway, if you like the show, uh,
2223
01:44:18.560 --> 01:44:21.869
you know, just give us some support, uh, generation video podcast,
2224
01:44:21.930 --> 01:44:24.770
follow us, comment, like share all that good stuff. You
2225
01:44:24.789 --> 01:44:28.460
know how it's played these days. Um, but yeah, just, uh,
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01:44:28.510 --> 01:44:31.649
thanks for listening. Hope you enjoyed any, any suggestions, you know,
2227
01:44:31.670 --> 01:44:34.880
reach out to us, anything you want us to cover, Yeah,
2228
01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:36.909
happy to talk about it. So I hope you enjoy it.
2229
01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:40.699
Absolutely, and I think we recently crossed a nice little
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01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:42.380
milestone of 3K.
2231
01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:45.619
Yeah, we hit like 3,000 downloads, so that was pretty
2232
01:44:45.659 --> 01:44:47.439
sweet to see. So thank you so much.
2233
01:44:47.460 --> 01:44:50.920
Big shout out to everyone who's joined in and listened
2234
01:44:50.939 --> 01:44:56.130
to stuff along the way. I would consider early years
2235
01:44:56.149 --> 01:44:58.369
for the podcast because there's a whole lot of movies we've.
2236
01:44:58.270 --> 01:44:58.550
Got to get to.
2237
01:44:58.550 --> 01:44:59.350
Yeah, we've been doing this for like.
2238
01:44:59.289 --> 01:45:01.409
Two years, two and a half years, something like that.
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01:45:01.449 --> 01:45:04.630
I don't know. Many down and many more to come.
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01:45:05.050 --> 01:45:07.869
Thank you all for being here. I've been your host, Rhett.
2241
01:45:08.529 --> 01:45:12.189
Exactly, yeah. But yeah, thanks for listening. I've been Wes.
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Until next time, be kind, rewind.