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Welcome to find me in a Friday
Everybody, where we share our best tips
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and tricks to help you get just
a little bit better every week. And
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this week we were talking about mitigating
risk by reducing change Tyler's something hit me
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when I was listening to Patrick's episode. It's just been something that has come
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up again and again as we've worked
on projects, and I wanted to call
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out the the risk impact of changing
things mid process and seen that over and
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over again. There was an angle
that I didn't want to miss, and
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I think that most people would go, like in other news, water's wet
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um, it's fairly apparent thing.
But there was a side of it that
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I don't think people understand when it
comes to drawings. I think this is
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apparent in trade. So you know
how when you get a wall framed up
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and then like you get the sheet
rock on it, or like you get
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a certain amount down the road and
at some point you realize something isn't working
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right and then you got to take
it back apart and put it back together.
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Yeah, and the first time,
like the studs and the nails and
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everything that went in like look all
crisp. The second time it looks like
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somebody like chewed the two by four
up, you know, or that like
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because they did, You're the work
doesn't look as crisp the second time,
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right, right, okay, And
it's just the nature of what we're trying
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to change it. Now. That's
in kind of like the hard construction world
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when it comes to the drawing world
or bim world. Patrick was talking about
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how hard it is to manage change
when it comes to like the modeling and
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drawings, and like just how unraveling
that is, and you went off on
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that a little bit. Oh yeah, no, the ripple effect, right,
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I always refer to it as the
ripple effect. It's like I would
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get some comment mid stream, right, I would be working the drawings for
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a fabrication. Always would be like
working them for fabrication, never for approval.
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Always happens right before fab and then
I would get a call that says,
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hey, we changed it from this
to this, and that one seemingly
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small change to the fabricator or to
the architect or the engineer whoever made the
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call mechanical, freaking mechanical, sorry
Patrick, but driving me crazy. They
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would make one little change and that
would have a massive impact. On fifty
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thousand other little things across the project, like a bolt size right, like
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bolts spacing, like joist spacing,
like a tiny little note somewhere, just
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little bitty things that would have a
massive ripple on an entire project. And
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what happens is, like you just
said, you know, we put that
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drywall back that second time. We're
pinched for time, we're under pressure.
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At that point, we're saying,
oh crap, well, I still want
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to try to get it done in
that time frame. They're still expecting it
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by Thursday. I'm gonna try to
get it done. So what happens rush
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and then things get dropped, things
get missed. That's what happens. And
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so I always referred to it as
a ripple effect when I was detailing.
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There's a lot of maturity that needs
to be there to understand when something like
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that happens. You have to like
breathe, re check and not send it
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too fast because you're trying to,
you know, keep the customer happy.
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Many times those changes come at last
minute and just have to be that we
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don't want those changes to impact projects
schedule. YEA, we might even have
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like a perfect understanding of the fact
that oh yeah, this is going to
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cost money. Yeah, but we
just like, let's recoup the schedule if
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we can. And the big call
out here so that we don't en a
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a forty minute five minute is understand
that you have risk in those changes.
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Is not only monetary risk. The
risk is the risk of mistake. That
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it's it's very difficult to maintain high
quality when things keep flipping and things keep
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changing. Yep. I want you
to think hard about how you distribute change.
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As a result of that, try
your best to batch it, try
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your best to digest it first,
then send it. Try your best to
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understand it yourself before you hand it
somebody else. Those things will help you.
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This is a risk thing. Mitigate
your risk by managing you to change.
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Well, it's good stuff, man, Here you go. It was
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a decent five minute. I feel
four minutes. Maybe I'm a little maybe
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I'm a little bit biased. Holy
crap, we still have time in the
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clock. I don't even think we
do. Holy crap. All right,
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guess well with that, enjoying your
extra like three minutes that we just gave
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back to you there, and go
build something else.
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Welcome to find me in a Friday
Everybody, where we share our best tips
2
00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:05.480
and tricks to help you get just
a little bit better every week. And
3
00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:18.760
this week we were talking about mitigating
risk by reducing change Tyler's something hit me
4
00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:24.800
when I was listening to Patrick's episode. It's just been something that has come
5
00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:29.280
up again and again as we've worked
on projects, and I wanted to call
6
00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:38.039
out the the risk impact of changing
things mid process and seen that over and
7
00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:42.880
over again. There was an angle
that I didn't want to miss, and
8
00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:47.880
I think that most people would go, like in other news, water's wet
9
00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:58.280
um, it's fairly apparent thing.
But there was a side of it that
10
00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:04.120
I don't think people understand when it
comes to drawings. I think this is
11
00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:08.519
apparent in trade. So you know
how when you get a wall framed up
12
00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.319
and then like you get the sheet
rock on it, or like you get
13
00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.200
a certain amount down the road and
at some point you realize something isn't working
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00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.159
right and then you got to take
it back apart and put it back together.
15
00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.719
Yeah, and the first time,
like the studs and the nails and
16
00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:33.439
everything that went in like look all
crisp. The second time it looks like
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00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:38.959
somebody like chewed the two by four
up, you know, or that like
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because they did, You're the work
doesn't look as crisp the second time,
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right, right, okay, And
it's just the nature of what we're trying
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to change it. Now. That's
in kind of like the hard construction world
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00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:59.599
when it comes to the drawing world
or bim world. Patrick was talking about
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00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:06.439
how hard it is to manage change
when it comes to like the modeling and
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00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.520
drawings, and like just how unraveling
that is, and you went off on
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00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:15.199
that a little bit. Oh yeah, no, the ripple effect, right,
25
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I always refer to it as the
ripple effect. It's like I would
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00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:23.840
get some comment mid stream, right, I would be working the drawings for
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a fabrication. Always would be like
working them for fabrication, never for approval.
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00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.719
Always happens right before fab and then
I would get a call that says,
29
00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:40.400
hey, we changed it from this
to this, and that one seemingly
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00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:47.159
small change to the fabricator or to
the architect or the engineer whoever made the
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00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:54.360
call mechanical, freaking mechanical, sorry
Patrick, but driving me crazy. They
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00:02:54.360 --> 00:03:00.800
would make one little change and that
would have a massive impact. On fifty
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thousand other little things across the project, like a bolt size right, like
34
00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:15.520
bolts spacing, like joist spacing,
like a tiny little note somewhere, just
35
00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:22.879
little bitty things that would have a
massive ripple on an entire project. And
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what happens is, like you just
said, you know, we put that
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drywall back that second time. We're
pinched for time, we're under pressure.
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At that point, we're saying,
oh crap, well, I still want
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00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.240
to try to get it done in
that time frame. They're still expecting it
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00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:46.439
by Thursday. I'm gonna try to
get it done. So what happens rush
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00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:52.159
and then things get dropped, things
get missed. That's what happens. And
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00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.199
so I always referred to it as
a ripple effect when I was detailing.
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00:03:54.360 --> 00:04:04.599
There's a lot of maturity that needs
to be there to understand when something like
44
00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:10.479
that happens. You have to like
breathe, re check and not send it
45
00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:14.400
too fast because you're trying to,
you know, keep the customer happy.
46
00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:17.519
Many times those changes come at last
minute and just have to be that we
47
00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:24.279
don't want those changes to impact projects
schedule. YEA, we might even have
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00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.279
like a perfect understanding of the fact
that oh yeah, this is going to
49
00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.079
cost money. Yeah, but we
just like, let's recoup the schedule if
50
00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.079
we can. And the big call
out here so that we don't en a
51
00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:42.600
a forty minute five minute is understand
that you have risk in those changes.
52
00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:47.720
Is not only monetary risk. The
risk is the risk of mistake. That
53
00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:54.480
it's it's very difficult to maintain high
quality when things keep flipping and things keep
54
00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:59.079
changing. Yep. I want you
to think hard about how you distribute change.
55
00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.560
As a result of that, try
your best to batch it, try
56
00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:08.399
your best to digest it first,
then send it. Try your best to
57
00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:13.120
understand it yourself before you hand it
somebody else. Those things will help you.
58
00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.759
This is a risk thing. Mitigate
your risk by managing you to change.
59
00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.839
Well, it's good stuff, man, Here you go. It was
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a decent five minute. I feel
four minutes. Maybe I'm a little maybe
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I'm a little bit biased. Holy
crap, we still have time in the
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clock. I don't even think we
do. Holy crap. All right,
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guess well with that, enjoying your
extra like three minutes that we just gave
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00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.399
back to you there, and go
build something else.
