Lanterns Episode 6 Breakdown - Easter Eggs, Theories, Ending Explained

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What's up, everyone? Welcome to Level 7. It is time
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for another episode of the Agents of Fandom podcast. I'm
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your host, TJ Zworich, and we are here once again
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to talk about Lanterns on Crave and HBO Max. Plus,
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it's just been a fun weekend. I'm excited to talk
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about a few things. I was out at Edmondson Expo
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this past weekend, and so we'll dive into that in
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the Whatcha Watchin' section. But joining me today, first up,
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all the way from South Africa, we got AF Parker.
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How you doing, AF?
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I'm doing good, man. It's a bit late here, but
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for lanterns, I will do anything, dude. I will be
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here at 11 p.m. my time, at midnight my time,
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you name it. I'm super excited to speak about this
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specific episode that just aired yesterday. I can't wait to
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get into it, dude.
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We'll obviously talk about it in depth in the spoiler section,
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but just as like a tease, I feel like this
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was the slowest episode and arguably the most easter egg
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filled episode i think uh in terms of like from
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like a dc fandom perspective so i'm looking forward to
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diving into that and joining us as well freshly home
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from work we got our guy jam how you doing jam.
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I'm doing well man i'm excited to be here once
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again uh to talk some lanterns appreciate you guys all
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changing your schedules around to accommodate me being able to
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talk about my most anticipated show of the year, or
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most anticipated thing, period, of the year. So I'm really
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excited to dive into it some more. Six episodes in.
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We are officially entering the fourth quarter. We are three
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quarters of the way through. We've got two episodes left,
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and it's gone by too quick. It's gone by a
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little too fast. I.
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It's come out at such a time where there's not
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a lot else airing in terms of like, there's been
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a couple movies that have come out. I'm sure we'll
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get at least one person talking about Resident Evil today.
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But outside of that, like from a TV perspective, there's
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not much coming out right now. So it really has
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just been kind of like the one thing that I'm
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anticipating every week as it's coming out right now. And
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so it's in a nice little, Solo release window taking
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up all the spotlight right now. TCR, Thomas Carter Rochester,
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co-host of the Reckless Rebellion podcast, joining us as well.
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How you doing, Thomas?
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I'm good, man. I'm here. I'm also tired. As I
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was mentioning before, Factor, you and me, company, we got
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to talk. We got to talk. You know what I'm saying?
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You gypped me out of Frickin', what is it, 20%
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of my meals for the next week, and you only
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charged me? Like, you only credited me for one of
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those meals, and it was my favorite meal? This is
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the second time now we don't have a problem. You know,
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in Brightest Day and Blackest Night, I will take the
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fight right to you factor. I was supposed to flip
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that around, but just pretend I made it rhyme. I'm good.
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I'm here. I'm lively-ish. I'm the second most alive podcaster
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on this show today. Um, and also I just got
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home from work too. You know, I was just listening
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to the fantasy footballers and all the pain and torture
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that was week two in fantasy football. I've lost my
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entire dynasty team. Things are great. It'll be fine. There's
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always next year. Just like the Cowboys. All right, I'm done.
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How you doing TJ?
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Well, worse now because we did have an endorsement deal
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lined up with a meal company factor, and now that
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is going to be thrown out the window. That's just
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completely down the drain now.
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Thanks, DCI.
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Yeah, I've been putting in some work trying to get
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that one sorted out, and that's gone. But other than that,
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doing really well. I was at Edmonton Expo this weekend
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hanging out with our friend Klein, friend of the pod
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and your co-host over at the Reckless Rebellion podcast. We
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got to meet in person for the first time. He's
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even more handsome in person, even more charming and delightful
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in person. He did a wonderful job. I only got
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to see one of his, in total, one of his panels.
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I caught snippets of others, but his one's in the
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main stage. So in like a little, in like a
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hockey stadium filled with people moderating the panel for the
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boys with the cast of the boys. And he did
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a really, really wonderful job We went for dinner, had
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a fun time hanging out. And so had a nice
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weekend there. And do have an interview going to drop
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later this week as well with the Mandalorian. Not Pedro Pascal,
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but Brendan Wayne, the guy in the suit. And so
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we had a nice conversation, mostly about Star Wars. And
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I got to do some Googling to make sure it is,
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in fact, an exclusive. But I think we got a
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nice little exclusive from it. So stay tuned. That'll drop
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later this week on agentsoffandom.com, on YouTube, wherever you get
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your podcasts. So make sure you subscribe. Hit the like
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button if you're watching this video and leave a nice
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five-star rating and review wherever you get your podcasts. AF,
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what you been watching? I haven't watched anything because I've been,
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you know, Edmonton Expo-ing. And so I've only put in
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like two hours into Wolverine. I'm behind on that too.
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What have you been watching?
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I've been reading quite a bit. just my normal pulls
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for Comic Corner that I would normally do. But in
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terms of watching things, it's been my normal shows. There's
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one episode of Stewart's Fails to Save the Universe left
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that will be ending this week. That's been pretty cool.
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Ted Lasso, as usual, still continuing with Platonic, still continuing
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with my new Goldie watch. I did watch an amazing
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movie called Best of the Best this past weekend. coming
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from brown guy, seeing all that representation on screen, seeing
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how unapologetic everybody in that university is about Bollywood and
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about like Desi culture and all of those things. I
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really hit home quite, quite a bit. So I was,
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I really like enjoyed the hell out of that movie.
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And I would recommend it to anybody in terms of
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just like, you know, Getting caught up on Bollywood cinema,
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on Bollywood nostalgia. It was pretty cool. And then last
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night I decided it's been on my watch list for
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a while. And I think it was Mike and Nick
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and Nick and Alice with Isaac Gonzalez, James Marston, Finn's phone.
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That was pretty cool. I didn't expect to like it
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as much as I did. What's better than one Finn's phone?
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I mean, two of them. right? I mean, what's, what's
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better than two wins wounds. It's, uh, it was a
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really fun movie. It was a really good time. So yeah,
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highly recommend that one as well.
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Jim, how about you? What you've been watching, what you've
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been playing? Have you finished Wolverine yet? Are you still going?
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I'm actually still going, man. You know, for all the
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bad reviews and people online that just hate on everything nowadays, uh,
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And help us here at Agents of Fandom fight that
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negativity and that algorithm that TJ is always talking about.
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But no, man, regardless of what people are saying or
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how short it is, I've been putting like two, three
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hours in since it came out every night. And I
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feel like I'm still only about halfway through. I've missed
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this weekend. I had things going on. But no, I
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haven't finished Wolverine. But that is the only game I'm playing.
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Besides Pocopia, like getting my daily stamp and doing things
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like that. Little small things here and there. Uh, Wolverine
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is my main thing, but I got to check out, uh,
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excuse me. I got to check out, uh, uh, uh,
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resident evil this weekend. And man, Zach Kreger, just three
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for three, man. He's three for three. He, he, he
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just gets it. Um, I've never played the games myself,
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but I did get to talk with another fellow controller
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club member. And that is Lauren Rouse. And then my
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favorite guy, my favorite horror enthusiast. Uh, TJ, it's not you,
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even though it rhymes with TJ. You met him once,
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but that is CJ. And, uh, he, they both came
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on so we could talk about Resident Evil. That episode
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will be dropping on my podcast later on. Actually, today,
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if you're watching this live with us here on our
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YouTube channel. Um, as far as everything else I've been watching,
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almost everything AF mentioned. Actually, AF, me and you might
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have to get together for a Stuart Fails to Save
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the Universe conversation. That'll be fun. Um, i've been watching
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that ted lasso like you mentioned uh keeping up with
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apple tv dark matter season two is really really good
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i'm very invested into that if you like like multiverse
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like mind blowing type stuff highly recommend watching that and
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getting into dark matter um and then just lanterns man
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oh oh oh anime i gotta always hit you with
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some of my anime stuff um Futurama and President Curtis
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aren't anime, but they're animation, so I'll throw them in
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there as well. But the main anime that I am
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watching is Clebates. That is almost, I think we have
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like one or two, maybe three more episodes left, so
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that's coming in the close soon. And then Black Torch
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and Bleach 1000. year blood war death. On it's final
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like arc. Which is. Or final part of the final arc.
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Which is really really interesting. I think this is my
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favorite part of Bleach. Period. I wasn't really always into Bleach.
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Growing up with the anime of the big three. I
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was always more into like Naruto and One Piece. And
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so getting this, like, new, like, modern take on Bleach,
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I mean, it's still the same story continuing on, but, like,
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having it come back in modern, like, ways, that new
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animation and stuff like that and art style, it's really, really,
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really cool. And then, last but not least, Daemons of
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the Shadow Realm just ended. We got to speak with
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their voice actors for the main two characters, Yuru and Asa.
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We also got to speak with the main two voice
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actors for Clever Test, which is Alicia and Glenn. So
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if you're into anime, I highly recommend you check out
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those videos here as Agents of Fandom. And yeah, TJ,
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that's all I've been watching.
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Speaking of, I just read the Demon Slayer movie is
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coming to Disney Plus next week. I got an email
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about that. TTR, how about you? What you been watching?
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Star Trek.
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Crazy, right? We watched Star Trek VI, The Undiscovered Country.
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The Klingon Wall has come down. Mr. Chancellor Gorkin, tear
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down this wall. That's the best I got for you
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guys today. That's the best impression I'm going to have
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for the day. Yeah, that's actually it. Football, wrestling, Star
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Trek's next generation. It's the time to be alive. I
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have played four minutes of Spider-Man 2 while on the
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phone with my mom, and then I couldn't figure out
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what I was supposed to do for the Prowler thing.
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And I was like, you know what? I'm busy anyway.
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I'll turn this off. Um, I've watched a lot of,
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I've watched a lot of movies that I'm in while editing.
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So that's fun. You know, I love, I love seeing
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my face all the time. All the time. All the time.
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Speaking of some wrestling, I saw earlier today that, uh,
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Cody Rhodes was like an, an agent's abandoned street fighter tweets.
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So that was fun to see. Shout out to Cody Rhodes.
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Cody Rhodes, come on the show.
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Should we cover Street Fighter on the podcast? That wasn't
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really something I thought about covering. And then I was
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with Klein this weekend and he was like, hey, if
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you guys cover Street Fighter, I'd love to join. And
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I was like, well, maybe just for that. Maybe just
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for that, we do it. Jam, you were nodding. You
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were nodding approvingly. Should we do it?
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Well, first off, I'm always just, If there's something to
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talk about, to talk about, make a pod for it.
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So if you're ever questioning if you need to make
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a pod for something, my answer is always going to
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be yes. But yeah, man, gaming is something I feel
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like people need to do more pods for anyway. I
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feel like that's an avenue that a lot of people
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don't talk on pod forms for. They usually just record
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gameplay and maybe do voiceovers for. So I would love
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for us to have more, again, like Klein, shout out
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to our friends at the Controller Club, have more conversations
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about video games.
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I'd be definitely down to do a full Wolverine story
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breakdown after we're all done as well. Just like full spoilers,
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full in-depth qualms and favorite parts of the stories, ideas
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for sequels, stuff like that. Once we're all finished, that
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would probably be a good time.
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I actually have that scheduled on my docket for one
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of my pods, so we could collab on that because
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don't know.
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We haven't been here for... I mean, AF was here Thursday,
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but I was going to say, I haven't been here
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for a week. I feel like there should be something
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else I want to bring up before we dive in.
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But AF, you look like you had something.
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I want to bring up something DC-related, and I wanted
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to do it before we start with lanterns. Did anybody
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see that post from Stephen Amell?
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Yes, yes, yes. But I don't... I don't want to
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read into it too much. But it is very cryptic. Exactly.
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But everybody's saying that he's returning as the Green Arrow
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for the first time in six years. But he's returning
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as the Spectre, dude. He's not returning as the Green Arrow.
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You think in the DCU?
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Where else can it be? There's literally no other space.
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There's no other place you can return as a DT character.
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It could. I've seen... Okay, I'm going to let you.
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I think so. I agree. I agree. Now, is the question...
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I've seen somebody say that it could happen at the
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end of Lanterns.
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I don't think so. Because you posted that, I think,
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two days ago or a day ago. Whereas, if it
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was at the end of Lanterns, you would have teased
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something like that a while ago. I don't think because
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it seems like he was getting ready to film something
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or do something quite recently. TJ, you look like you
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are looking into it right now. What do you think?
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I'm looking it up right now.
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I just looked at it and part of me thinks
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it could be he's just at a restaurant and they're
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literally trying to do something like have you seen this
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man kind of shtick this could also be something from
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baywatch right or he could be the specter there is a.
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I don't think i i think if they're i didn't
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want to i think it's going to be kyle chandler
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playing him i don't.
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Want to know you have to pass it you have
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to pass the torch.
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Look, give me any, Stephen.
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Bring him back.
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I don't care.
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Make him the Green Arrow. Make him the old Green Arrow.
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Don't do this to me. I will die on this hill.
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You will die alone on the hill.
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I will die on that hill. I don't care. That
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was the thing that was holding D.C. down for a
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very long time. No matter what anybody says, for a
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long time, a 10-year run, that is what a lot
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of people know as D.C. That is the closest thing
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that people know as to D.C., So respectfully, yeah, he
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does suck. I'm not going to lie to you. But
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I love him. I will always stand on the scene
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with him.
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He was Batman with a bow and arrow.
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Arrow was a great show. It wasn't Green Arrow. Like
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AF said, that was Batman with a bow and arrow.
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To be fair, in the later seasons, he started to
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get more quirky and campier like Green Arrow.
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Dan was the one person who was pro-Steven Amell and
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pro-Michael Bay in 2026.
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A hundred, a hundred. Matter of fact, Michael Bay, you
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should call Stephen Amell and put him in a movie.
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That's what it should. That's exactly. Actually, they did that already.
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And that was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. See, it just works.
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It just works.
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I mean, he's he's age would align with the older
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sort of Justice League members.
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But let him be the green arrow that was with
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Kyle Chandler.
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Oh, Just hope that no one's striking and that you
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don't need him to stick with the union because that
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sure isn't going to happen.
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Speaking of DC, let's talk about some lanterns. We don't
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got to spend the time bashing on Stephen Amell, even
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though he's kind of a dick. We can just we
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can just some lanterns talk about episode six. Let's go
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spoiler free for now. What did you think about this
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episode where I guess the way that I would describe
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it the most is this felt like to me, like
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a season two premiere more than an episode six with
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only two episodes beginning. Like it very much felt like,
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and I mean a 10 year jump, we went right
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to 2026 and we stayed there. This very much felt like,
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you know, the same story ish, but revisiting it in
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a way that you usually only see, at the beginning
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of a following season, as opposed to leading into the
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ending of this. And so in classic Lindelof fashion, it
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is a weirdly formatted, bouncing around with time type of series.
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What'd you think of episode six?
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I enjoyed it. I didn't like it as much as
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I did the previous one. I think the previous one
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just set the bar so extremely high, but that's not
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to say that it wasn't a good episode. Like you said,
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it felt like a premiere. It felt like We've had
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this sort of strong, stable base that's been built. And
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now we're building on top of that. And there's been
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so much detail and so much information that just came
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showering down throughout this episode. And as I'm watching, I'm like, ooh,
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they said that. Ooh, they said that. Oh, did they
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really say that? And that's what I want from a
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show like this. So yeah, I think that at the
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end of it all, we still... We have more questions again.
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We got maybe like one or two answers. but still a.
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Lot more questions than answers in this.
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One exactly which is I mean we have two episodes
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left and I really really hope that we get all
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the answers that we are hoping for and we spoke
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about this a couple of weeks ago will they land
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it the way that we hoped they would and I
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still think that they would But yeah, two episodes to go.
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I think that what we've got so far is they're
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going to end up cooking this last two episodes. And
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the baseline is there. We know what we are getting
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with the show. And I really just want them to
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keep on sort of expanding on all of the lore
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like they have been in every episode.
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This was an interesting episode for me watching because I
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did feel like it was the weakest of the season
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so far, but also just like really hammered home and
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proved to me that I could just watch Aaron Pierre
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do pretty much anything and I'm going to be entertained.
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You know what I mean? Like I wasn't watching it
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thinking it was bad. I still think this was a
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very enjoyable episode of TV, but I think from a
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storytelling standpoint, it was the weakest, but also just hammered home.
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Aaron Pierre's stardom to me where it's like, it doesn't
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really matter to me what he's doing.
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I'm in.
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What'd you think of this episode, Jim?
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I appreciated this episode. It feels like this whole season
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has been very strong with last episode feeling like a
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season finale. And as you mentioned, this felt like very
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much a season two. It also feels like, like comic book-y,
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like where I mean, like it's like the end of
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one arc, like the first, four or five issues and
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the same story we're continuing the exact same story but
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now we're in issue six or or four five or
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six you know what i mean like where it's like
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a whole new arc starting or like in manga where
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you get like or like you or anime you know
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tj you got like the zabuza arc for naruto then
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we get into the chunin exams then you get into
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the sasuke retrieval arc that's what this feels like and
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i and i i think it works very well like
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that first those first five episodes We're so strong, whereas
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this comes back, this coming into this sixth episode feels
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almost like a returning point to, and like it's an episode,
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like a pilot episode, like you said, a season two.
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So every episode has been really strong, but it's all condensed,
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except maybe episode three kind of felt like its own thing,
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and that could have also been a pilot episode. I
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think this is just a credit to the team, the
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creative team here, How well that this storytelling format. And
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like you said. In classic Linda Law fashion. Is able
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to create all these timelines. That just work somehow. We've
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thrown right back into 2026. After episode 1. And it
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just feels like oh yeah. I kind of know what's
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going on. For the most part. I liked it. I
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enjoyed it. I do agree. It felt. like, the transition
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episode to, I don't want to say filler, like, in anime,
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because that's a bad choice of words, but it did
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feel like that episode where it's, it is, like, the
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issue five or six, but it also feels like the
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issue in between the issue five and six, like, that
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ending of the arc into the next, so I could
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see why you feel like this was the weakest, and
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people in the chat were feeling like it was, like,
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the weakest of the show so far, but I enjoyed it.
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Yeah, it wasn't bad. I don't think it was bad
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by any means, but like, it was just like the
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one to me that had me the least invested in
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the story being told. And while simultaneously getting me even
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more invested in Jon Stewart, the character, because I think
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like to MTF's point in chat, this is the first
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episode that really felt like Jon was the main character
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outside of maybe episode three. But even that, it was
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like his mom was kind of the main character of
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episode three. Um, and so like this one was the,
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this is the first one that actually felt like, even
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though he didn't have the ring, uh, throughout, throughout this
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episode yet, uh, he felt like the main green lantern
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here in this episode, even when he's, I guess, sorry, I'll,
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I'll save this one. I'll save this for spoiler. I'll
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save it for spoiler talk. Uh, Thomas, uh, what'd you
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think of this episode?
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I love this episode. Um, I was very, um, And
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I was very much enjoying the story. I mean, it
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starts off the way it does. And it answers the
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question immediately. Like, why is he even going back to
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find out how Jordan, you know, was killed at the
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end of episode one? And I'm like, oh, so they
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must have gotten closer. And then after last week, it's
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like they didn't get closer at all. But we open
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the show how we do. Well, I mean, after a
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couple other scenes, but we get to that moment and
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it's like, oh, oh, right. All right. I'm I'm now
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understanding why we have to go forward the way we
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have to go forward. I think there's more nuance. There's
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some ham fisted stuff for sure. There's some some fantastic exposition.
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There's some aggressive table setting there. But there's also a
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lot of little subtleties all throughout the episode. This was
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the most mystery like episode, in my opinion, because it's
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just we had all these ideas and we had ideas
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coming into this. But then it kind of took all
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our ideas and just set them on fire for the
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most part, except for like five. And it was like,
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this is what we're doing now. Like, get get jump,
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get ready, lock in. And you mentioned it's like that
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one between the episodes. This really did feel, what was
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it that I read recently? Oh man, I wish I
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could remember. Lost Core, you know, it's Jon Stewart and company.
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They end up in another universe, the universe that predated
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this universe. And that miniseries ends and it's like, and
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now we have this going forward. And it's like another
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little miniseries that's directly connected. And it felt like the
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first issue of this new continuation where it's like, here's
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where we got. This is how we got here. Here's
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what we're setting up. Why is this happening over here?
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Find out next week on Dragon Ball Z. And so
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I really enjoyed the way this episode ran on second rewatch.
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Knowing where the story is, yes, the story itself, I think,
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is more streamlined. I wouldn't call it weaker, but it's
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more streamlined. The acting is where I'm like, this could be,
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in my opinion, depending on how it plays out over
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the next two episodes, could be the best single acting
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episode in terms of choices made by the actors that
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we won't understand until the end of the season. Like
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I'm seeing the foreshadowing in the eye twitch.
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In.
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The moments in between the words. I'm really enjoying that
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of this episode. And man, you mentioned it. This is
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the most Easter egg episode of Lanterns by far. And
477
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.420
maybe the most Easter egg episode of DCU TV ever?
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00:27:30.819 --> 00:27:36.380
like season like peacemaker season two i can't probably anything
479
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:39.630
that met this and it was done in i love
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the way that these easter eggs were dropped out and
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the world building was done it was so haphazardly just
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so nonchalantly mentioned that i it's just like wait what
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hold on what oh shit that's a thing now i
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was i was having a blast i was having a
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blast Had to rewind a couple of times. So it,
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I think it's the best table setting. I just read
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that MTF. I think it was the best world building
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in terms of how it was done in the DCU.
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It was subtle. It was there. It's just enough to go, Hey,
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don't worry. Don't forget about this. This is out here
491
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as well. This is the kind of world we're living in,
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but guess what? We don't got to beat you over
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the head with the New York incident, which, you know,
494
00:28:32.529 --> 00:28:35.650
was everything after the Avengers, right? The battle of New York.
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00:28:36.430 --> 00:28:38.849
This is, you know, they mentioned metropolis. Very simple. They
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00:28:38.890 --> 00:28:44.089
mentioned starfish. Very simple. Very subtle. They mentioned some other
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things that are new to us now.
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Yeah. So that, but so, Full spoilers for lanterns episode six.
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Let's not beat around the bush. Let's not dance around
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it up. I want to talk about some of these things.
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00:28:56.589 --> 00:28:58.890
So if you have not seen the episode yet, hit
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pause on us, go watch the episode, tell two friends
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about the podcast, bring them back and join us. I
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00:29:04.549 --> 00:29:06.950
did actually remember because I just saw Ryan tweeted about
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it on ages of fandom, what I did want to
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talk about before we dove into lanterns. And so if
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we have some time at the end of this, we'll
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00:29:13.059 --> 00:29:17.609
see how long we take. Uh, that uh reportedly daredevil
509
00:29:17.630 --> 00:29:21.119
born again season three will be the last season of
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daredevil born again uh dario scardapan's contract wasn't renewed he's
511
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.319
no longer attached in post-production right now uh and so
512
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.650
kind of to some earlier reports that we we saw
513
00:29:34.670 --> 00:29:38.890
at hammer and home that like maybe marvel television might
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just not be a thing anymore.
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00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:43.500
Is it Marvel Television or is this Disney doing the
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Disney Channel thing where they're going to repurpose this in
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some form or fashion and move Daredevil into another place
518
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to keep him in a pay bracket?
519
00:29:51.809 --> 00:29:56.519
No, Disney's just not doing expensive live action television anymore.
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That's just what it comes down to. The last thing
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on the docket is Ahsoka.
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They're not making these $ 100 million to $ 200 million shows anymore.
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00:30:07.619 --> 00:30:11.740
Is it Ahsoka or is it Daredevil? Ahsoka, then Daredevil.
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00:30:11.789 --> 00:30:13.690
I meant to say Ahsoka is the last Star Wars one.
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Daredevil is the last Marvel one that's on the... I
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think there's still going to be animation. There's still going
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to be some special presentation type things, but we're just
528
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not going to get the massive budget streaming shows anymore
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because their new ownership has said, what does that actually
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do for us?
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You want to know what this is?
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Bad Optics.
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00:30:36.089 --> 00:30:42.529
Bad Optics. Great transition back into the episode title, Bad Optics.
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00:30:42.730 --> 00:30:44.289
And the first thing I want to talk about is,
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now Thomas brought up, we threw so many theories at
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the wall. Most of them were going to just get
537
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burned and tossed by the wayside regardless, but a couple
538
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.549
of them stuck. And the first one that stuck was
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00:30:55.670 --> 00:30:58.009
probably the most obvious one where we were all kind
540
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of on the same page. Hey, John turned down the ring.
541
00:31:00.710 --> 00:31:02.890
He's going to go be an architect. That's going to
542
00:31:02.910 --> 00:31:05.329
be like, that's where we're going to get this part
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of his backstory. And we see it here. He has,
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you know, made up a little bit, gotten closer with
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00:31:12.430 --> 00:31:16.849
his brother, Marcus. They have an architecture firm together. AF,
546
00:31:17.809 --> 00:31:24.940
they are building panic rooms, panic, Panic buildings, panic underground mansions,
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00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:28.660
also calling them arcs, which if you've been reading Absolute
548
00:31:28.700 --> 00:31:31.000
Batman has a little bit of an important name in
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00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.769
it as a potential tease there as well. What did
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00:31:34.809 --> 00:31:38.210
you think of this choice to kind of have him,
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before he becomes a fully realized Green Lantern, he's becoming
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a fully realized Jon Stewart?
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Yeah, no.
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We called this a while ago. He studied it. the
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00:31:51.900 --> 00:31:54.720
dude has the background he knew what he was getting
556
00:31:54.759 --> 00:32:00.440
into but yeah like my whole thing remembering that first
557
00:32:00.779 --> 00:32:02.809
time when he's like sort of constructing with it again
558
00:32:03.269 --> 00:32:07.730
he does this bird and this bird just like stays
559
00:32:07.789 --> 00:32:10.490
alive for the entire time and he needs to know
560
00:32:10.569 --> 00:32:16.019
how something works to the fullest extent before like you
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00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:19.480
know like constructing it so with Hal it was just
562
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.450
like okay I'm just going to make a random $ 5
563
00:32:23.410 --> 00:32:26.970
bill or something. I don't care. And John's like, no,
564
00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:29.369
I need to know how this thing works. I need
565
00:32:29.390 --> 00:32:32.390
to know how to build it up from the base up.
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00:32:32.490 --> 00:32:36.410
And I mean, that was foreshadowing enough to see this
567
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is where he's heading. This is the direction he's heading in.
568
00:32:42.099 --> 00:32:46.599
So I wasn't surprised about that. I am a bit
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00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.759
surprised that he went into business with his brother and
570
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his brother still giving him the cold shoulder about this
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00:32:53.220 --> 00:32:57.480
whole Green Lantern thing that they were all raised up
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00:32:57.539 --> 00:33:02.140
together with. And I still think that that's going to
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pay off in some way or form in the future.
574
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I think that both of his brothers, they're just going
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to have this resentment towards him forever. And maybe it's
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going to come to a time where they're going to
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end up just putting all their cards on the table,
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speaking about their feelings and just like voicing whatever it
579
00:33:25.740 --> 00:33:28.839
is that the trauma that they all went through during
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their childhood. But his brother, while they were having those meetings,
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he kept on giving those side eyes. And every time
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00:33:37.670 --> 00:33:39.710
it was like, Oh, onto the green Anton and the
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00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:43.490
brother goes from like smiling gleefully to like, they bring
584
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this up again. And I like that. They just sort
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of carried that narrative forward into this episode. And 10
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years later, it's still affecting him.
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00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:57.930
We had that line in episode three of he's going
588
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to hate us. And we see that in full effect here.
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He has his parents in his phone listed as their
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00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.980
first names instead of mom and dad. And clearly it
591
00:34:07.539 --> 00:34:10.099
affected the brothers as well because none of them are
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00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.860
on good terms with those parents. The dad's in a home.
593
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.349
Nobody wants to deal with him. the mom is chatting
594
00:34:16.369 --> 00:34:20.010
with how Jordan and, and is estranged from all of them.
595
00:34:20.750 --> 00:34:23.429
It's yeah, not, not a great situation at home, but
596
00:34:23.449 --> 00:34:25.449
I think it is funny how you could tell, and
597
00:34:25.489 --> 00:34:27.610
this is good storytelling because you could tell, even if
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you don't remember which brother was older, which one was younger,
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which brother was named, which, who you can tell exactly
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which one he is close with and which one he
601
00:34:38.539 --> 00:34:41.380
is not close with based on how they interacted as kids,
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where the one brother could always kind of tell like, hey,
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this is shitty for him, too. Like, we bust his
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00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:53.000
balls a little bit, but, like, this sucks for him.
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And they had a little bit of a relationship where
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the oldest one was always kind of like, no, fuck
607
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.679
this guy. So you kind of see that as well here.
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00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:03.739
That conversation, Jam, feel free to, like, I want to
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hear your thoughts on how they've done the architect story
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00:35:06.409 --> 00:35:09.690
as well, but that conversation with his oldest brother in
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the car of, like, go get your father. Go get
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00:35:13.969 --> 00:35:14.449
your father.
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00:35:14.489 --> 00:35:21.300
Go the way that he was like, just like very subtly,
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00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:25.920
but not so subtly being like, yeah, that record, that,
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00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.280
that record that signed you, who do you think is,
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00:35:28.579 --> 00:35:29.579
who do you think is funding this?
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00:35:29.619 --> 00:35:31.579
Who do you think is funding this album, man? Like
618
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.820
that was so real. And just like, it felt like
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00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:40.289
such a real toxic, a real toxic family conversation.
620
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.500
Yeah, it was great when he was like, Nick. He
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00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:45.460
had to gather himself.
622
00:35:46.099 --> 00:35:47.599
I wasn't going to say it.
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I love that for you. That shit was so great.
624
00:35:53.869 --> 00:35:57.889
And a great thing about being mixed like I am,
625
00:35:58.269 --> 00:36:00.750
you get to get into both aspects. So I have
626
00:36:00.769 --> 00:36:04.349
the algorithms where we have our conversations. And then you
627
00:36:04.369 --> 00:36:07.670
got Black Twitter. And to see Black Twitter's reaction to
628
00:36:07.710 --> 00:36:13.130
that fucking scene... It's like Dr. Umar's memes and shit.
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00:36:13.190 --> 00:36:13.809
It's gold.
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00:36:13.889 --> 00:36:14.630
It's so perfect.
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00:36:16.329 --> 00:36:18.809
That one, and then a little later in the episode,
632
00:36:18.949 --> 00:36:23.489
probably more so, where... the the coffee shop worker is
633
00:36:23.550 --> 00:36:25.929
like you owe me reparations.
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00:36:25.250 --> 00:36:28.829
I was gonna bring that up later i.
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00:36:29.110 --> 00:36:30.829
Was gonna bring it up later yeah yeah.
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This shit is great dog oh my god he's like
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he's like yeah hi uh.
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00:36:36.739 --> 00:36:39.480
Right before she right before being like we're not racist
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you owe me reparation.
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00:36:41.460 --> 00:36:47.900
He was like yeah that's um Architect, yeah. I mean,
641
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I feel like that's just beautiful. It's beautiful. It's great
642
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.340
character development for his story. It brings it full circle
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00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:57.360
because for a long time within comics, it's, well, is
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he a Marine sniper or is he an architect or
645
00:37:01.469 --> 00:37:04.329
is he both? This kind of just streamlines it for
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00:37:05.250 --> 00:37:08.210
general audiences and mainstream people because that is a thing.
647
00:37:08.230 --> 00:37:12.469
When you Google Jon Stewart's comic history, it's very convoluted.
648
00:37:12.510 --> 00:37:14.030
So I feel like this is a great way to
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just cut all of that in the butt.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I loved it. I feel like we were, we,
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00:37:21.219 --> 00:37:22.880
we all knew, like you said earlier, we all knew
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he was going to go on that route.
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00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.840
So I'm just kind of looking at some stuff right
655
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:33.460
now as we're talking, as I'm reading more into this
656
00:37:33.500 --> 00:37:37.559
report of the daredevil thing happening. And sorry to those
657
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.460
listening to us and are like, stay on one damn
658
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.340
talking topic. Guess what? We probably all have ADHD on
659
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.280
this podcast. So top one, top one. But THR says
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Marvel reportedly still has three to five live action shows
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in development, including a... The studio is said to have
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greenlit a spy thriller referred to as Zodiac. And so
663
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it is, to me, I think we could spend a
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whole podcast speculating on what that could mean and what
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these shows could be. But my first thought guess is
666
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that maybe... Hopefully, you know, this does mean that we
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00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.030
are not done with Marvel live action television shows and
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00:38:20.489 --> 00:38:24.469
Star Wars live action television shows. But they're going to
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00:38:24.510 --> 00:38:29.210
be different and like like probably lower budget than Lanterns.
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00:38:29.269 --> 00:38:32.440
And it looks like Lanterns is like, you know, doing
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a lot with a little bit less.
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Like I saw some reports that again, this is just speculation,
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speculative reports, but that's like ten million dollars an episode.
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So an $ 80 million season, which is still like half
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the price of a usual Marvel television show.
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And so I feel like that's going to be the
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plan of if there are going to be these shows,
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00:38:51.139 --> 00:38:54.599
they're going to be a lot lower budget. And that's
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probably a good thing if we want volume.
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00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.840
I think it also is to like TCR's point earlier.
681
00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:04.969
I think HBO kind of has the mold figured out
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only because it's really about how these companies, like these
683
00:39:08.650 --> 00:39:09.869
studios view things.
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And they got the built-in viewership of like, they know
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that Sunday night spot is getting viewers regardless of the show.
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And if it's great, like lanterns, it's, it will bring
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subscribers where like Disney plus doesn't have that.
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00:39:24.289 --> 00:39:26.849
That's what his point earlier was If they do the
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Disney Channel thing, but realistically, HBO has that mold. That's
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what I'm saying. It really depends on how they view
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the viewership versus subscriber aspect. You know what I mean?
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00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.659
We talked about this on the physical media conversation for
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my pod. It's interesting, man. If they keep it... low
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budget stuff. I'm, I'm, I'm opposed. I'm the, uh, of
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00:39:51.829 --> 00:39:55.289
conversation of I'm on the, the, the, the side of
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we need more, but obviously, uh, that doesn't.
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00:39:59.809 --> 00:40:02.409
It doesn't need better. So it doesn't mean better. So
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if they can figure a more sustainable method to actually
699
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get us, you know, quality content without two, three, four
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years between things, I think that that could be for
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the best anyways. Um, Thomas, what do you think is
702
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the choice to make our guy, uh, how our guy,
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John Stewart's an architect here. And then they pull them
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back into Rushville here. And I want to talk a lot. I,
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I've been one of the parts I'm most excited to
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00:40:30.179 --> 00:40:34.869
talk about is this interaction with Hal and John in Rushville,
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because I don't know about you.
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00:40:38.150 --> 00:40:41.730
That man knew he was about to die. Jordan knew
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he was.
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About to die. That's my thought process. When I saw
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that conversation, between him and John. That's why he says,
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don't tell anyone you were, you were here. Cause he
713
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.280
knew he was about to die. What do you think
714
00:40:54.300 --> 00:40:55.920
of the architect choice? And then lead us into that
715
00:40:56.139 --> 00:40:59.030
interaction where first time in 10 years, how fresh out
716
00:40:59.070 --> 00:40:59.739
of jail.
717
00:41:01.230 --> 00:41:04.469
Architect choice thumbs up. Okay. Moving on to the cafe.
718
00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:11.170
I can't say anything else. Everybody else crushed it. So I, Oh,
719
00:41:11.489 --> 00:41:17.159
one note. He got money, money. You need Batman to.
720
00:41:17.099 --> 00:41:19.480
Create government contracts. He's got money, money.
721
00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:24.380
So, so he could fund the beginning of the justice league.
722
00:41:24.460 --> 00:41:31.550
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, um, this diner scene.
723
00:41:32.090 --> 00:41:34.809
Um, yeah, it, it actually, that is kind of interesting
724
00:41:34.889 --> 00:41:41.750
in contrast to guy Gardner, who is sponsored and doing
725
00:41:41.769 --> 00:41:45.849
these commercials for these different energy drinks. And he is
726
00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:50.030
Maxwell Lord corporate justice gang got Maxwell Lord's logo on
727
00:41:50.070 --> 00:41:52.309
him to have John just come and be like, bitch,
728
00:41:52.369 --> 00:41:53.750
I don't need your money. I got just as much
729
00:41:53.789 --> 00:41:54.449
money as you do.
730
00:41:55.510 --> 00:41:58.590
Oh, can I get a, Oh, you want to sponsor this? Nah,
731
00:41:59.070 --> 00:41:59.489
I'm good.
732
00:41:59.510 --> 00:42:04.369
Right. Although they're major difference between.
733
00:42:03.829 --> 00:42:06.369
Like some guy makes a few million dollars a year
734
00:42:06.449 --> 00:42:12.059
versus a guy who makes a few billion a year. Yeah.
735
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:12.659
Yeah.
736
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:17.460
You know, so, Um, but that's going to, it's going
737
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:18.559
to be, it's going to be fun to see how
738
00:42:18.579 --> 00:42:21.039
that shakes out. And, you know, he may not have
739
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:25.280
Maxwell Lord money right now, but I don't think Superman's
740
00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:29.059
going to want to be working with Maxwell Lord ultimately long-term.
741
00:42:29.099 --> 00:42:32.340
He's going to want his own independent situation. And that's
742
00:42:32.380 --> 00:42:37.570
going to be where, um, Jon Stewart comes in. And
743
00:42:37.610 --> 00:42:41.690
Jon Stewart also comes into the cafe and punches Hal
744
00:42:41.730 --> 00:42:46.710
Jordan square in his nog, noggin. um schnoz that's what
745
00:42:46.730 --> 00:42:48.869
i was trying to think of golly gee right in
746
00:42:48.889 --> 00:42:53.699
the nose um i really enjoyed this leading up to
747
00:42:53.739 --> 00:42:56.360
that the whole why do you call your mom by
748
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.480
her first name that's just disrespectful but you also have
749
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:04.539
really fucked up family situation so you know whatever um
750
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:11.179
and the whole i love the beginning he's like have
751
00:43:11.260 --> 00:43:14.650
what Your apology. I'm not apologizing. Like, their back and
752
00:43:14.710 --> 00:43:17.949
forth was wonderful. It was so nice to just have
753
00:43:18.030 --> 00:43:24.500
them face-to-face. Our final face-off, if you will. Our final countdown.
754
00:43:25.019 --> 00:43:26.699
It was the start of it, you know? This was
755
00:43:26.739 --> 00:43:31.940
number 10. And now we're encroaching on, like, 6-7 in
756
00:43:32.019 --> 00:43:35.019
our 10-point countdown. Yes, thank you, Jambo.
757
00:43:35.420 --> 00:43:36.079
Razors!
758
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:37.070
So, I.
759
00:43:40.969 --> 00:43:43.190
we get to that moment where he punches him in
760
00:43:43.230 --> 00:43:47.050
the face and, you know, it gets to that point.
761
00:43:47.070 --> 00:43:49.690
Cause he's saying, you know, you were afraid, you were afraid,
762
00:43:49.750 --> 00:43:51.429
you were afraid. And he just punches him in the face.
763
00:43:52.929 --> 00:43:55.849
I don't think how's wrong, but I also don't think
764
00:43:55.889 --> 00:44:01.079
how's right. It's not so much afraid of whatever, you know,
765
00:44:01.139 --> 00:44:03.179
in the sense that how things, it was more of
766
00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:07.079
just like, I actually don't want this. I don't like that.
767
00:44:07.139 --> 00:44:10.530
I've been led that. I don't think Hal thinks that either.
768
00:44:10.630 --> 00:44:13.800
I think Hal wanted to get punched in the face
769
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.559
just like he did the last time in Rutchville. He
770
00:44:17.579 --> 00:44:20.440
was trying to bait him into a fight this time
771
00:44:20.500 --> 00:44:23.219
so that he'd break his nose so that he'd be
772
00:44:23.260 --> 00:44:26.610
invested in the case. Because if he doesn't reach back
773
00:44:26.690 --> 00:44:28.730
out to Hal, if they don't get to have a conversation,
774
00:44:28.769 --> 00:44:32.429
if he's not given a reason to go back to Rutchville,
775
00:44:33.250 --> 00:44:35.260
who says John is going to give a damn about
776
00:44:35.610 --> 00:44:38.219
Hal dying and actually want to go and solve this murder?
777
00:44:38.900 --> 00:44:41.179
But the fact that I have there, he's the one
778
00:44:41.219 --> 00:44:44.159
who got punched in the face. I think, I think
779
00:44:44.179 --> 00:44:45.550
how was baiting him just.
780
00:44:45.429 --> 00:44:47.230
The same way that he baited the other guy in
781
00:44:47.250 --> 00:44:48.269
the bar earlier.
782
00:44:48.389 --> 00:44:48.630
Okay.
783
00:44:49.449 --> 00:44:54.829
I like that idea. I think the reason John would
784
00:44:54.849 --> 00:45:03.429
have given a fuck either way. Sorry. Let me rephrase that. Yes.
785
00:45:03.510 --> 00:45:06.809
Hal wanted to get punched in the face. Sure. But
786
00:45:07.230 --> 00:45:12.449
how did not, tell bernadette to send him there so
787
00:45:12.510 --> 00:45:15.570
how as far as we can tell wasn't expecting him
788
00:45:15.610 --> 00:45:19.730
to walk in so it's more of just uh oh
789
00:45:19.750 --> 00:45:23.900
we're gonna have a happenstance there's more to how john
790
00:45:24.179 --> 00:45:28.699
got there than meets the eye and i have transformers
791
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.000
um and i have a couple theories on how we
792
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:33.760
got to that point which.
793
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:41.860
Will get a robot in disguise If not a transformer.
794
00:45:44.420 --> 00:45:47.019
So he punches him in the face. We get this
795
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.019
like great buildup, this great tension. But then there is
796
00:45:50.219 --> 00:45:55.019
that moment where he like, this isn't like, you know, John,
797
00:45:55.119 --> 00:46:00.360
don't tell anyone. He breaks the normal, how Jordan gusto. Like,
798
00:46:00.469 --> 00:46:02.110
I mean, he does it all the time. His heart
799
00:46:02.210 --> 00:46:05.150
shows in the final moment, John, don't tell anyone you
800
00:46:05.170 --> 00:46:11.360
were here. Don't tell anyone. Because he knew, like, he
801
00:46:11.409 --> 00:46:16.579
knew what John knew. Black man in Nebraska. Punches him
802
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.739
in the face. Pretty obvious that they would think that. Now,
803
00:46:20.820 --> 00:46:24.030
they could use the government location crap and see that
804
00:46:24.050 --> 00:46:27.469
he wasn't there at the time of the death. But
805
00:46:28.409 --> 00:46:31.110
will they do that? Probably not. No offense to people
806
00:46:31.150 --> 00:46:33.070
in Nebraska. I'm not saying y'all are racist, but it
807
00:46:33.309 --> 00:46:35.630
is this specific town.
808
00:46:35.750 --> 00:46:36.889
I mean, most of you guys are.
809
00:46:38.309 --> 00:46:41.309
Get the fuck out of here. Go smoke your snow
810
00:46:41.369 --> 00:46:43.050
up there in Canada. You know what I'm saying?
811
00:46:45.849 --> 00:46:47.190
Are you trying to tell me that most of the
812
00:46:47.230 --> 00:46:51.130
people around you in Florida aren't racist? Most?
813
00:46:52.699 --> 00:46:53.719
No, not most.
814
00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:55.960
Okay.
815
00:46:55.980 --> 00:46:56.320
Many.
816
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.519
Do I know people that were in the Klan?
817
00:46:58.579 --> 00:46:58.650
Yes.
818
00:46:58.719 --> 00:46:59.000
Yes.
819
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.340
You don't say that unless you live in fucking Florida
820
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:05.400
or Nebraska.
821
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:07.420
Florida, Alabama.
822
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:08.559
That's not normal.
823
00:47:09.139 --> 00:47:10.480
TJ, it's America.
824
00:47:10.539 --> 00:47:12.519
This is why I say most of the people are
825
00:47:12.579 --> 00:47:13.579
racist down there.
826
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:18.500
No, listen, again, not most. I got to be very specific.
827
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.579
It's maybe five to 10%, but they're the little dicks
828
00:47:21.619 --> 00:47:24.960
who yell the loudest.
829
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.119
Then why are all the, then why are all the,
830
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:30.960
them voting red all the time? But that's another topic.
831
00:47:33.809 --> 00:47:34.929
Delusion! That's how.
832
00:47:34.949 --> 00:47:37.170
Let's get back to the topic.
833
00:47:37.210 --> 00:47:37.530
Jesus.
834
00:47:37.929 --> 00:47:42.679
This is why Green Lanterns don't get involved in earthly politics.
835
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:45.300
Bad optics. Yeah.
836
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.000
So, I loved how we got... I don't even remember
837
00:47:49.019 --> 00:47:50.219
what the fuck I was talking about.
838
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:51.119
Oh, right, right, right.
839
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.699
Punches him in the face. He says, hey, didn't tell
840
00:47:53.739 --> 00:47:57.400
anyone you were here, right? We later learn that he gets,
841
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.440
you know, the whole, you cared about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
842
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:02.150
I think....
843
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:10.369
John recognizes in that moment something very specific, like... That's
844
00:48:10.409 --> 00:48:13.750
a little out of character for him. And this whole
845
00:48:13.809 --> 00:48:17.349
episode is John trusting his gut. When it comes to
846
00:48:17.369 --> 00:48:21.590
the Rushville stuff, he's trusting his gut. Even the whole,
847
00:48:22.340 --> 00:48:24.380
you know, why didn't you tell the sheriff? Well, because
848
00:48:24.420 --> 00:48:26.679
he told me not to trust anybody. And that's kind
849
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.559
of one of those things where he already doesn't trust anybody.
850
00:48:30.300 --> 00:48:30.480
So.
851
00:48:31.530 --> 00:48:34.849
He walks through this whole episode going, I could be
852
00:48:34.889 --> 00:48:39.619
blamed at any moment, and there's enough motive from our past,
853
00:48:40.099 --> 00:48:42.219
he and I, that would lay it at my feet.
854
00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:45.039
I was on site. I punched him in the face.
855
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:52.920
There is enough to provide, what is it? There's a word.
856
00:48:53.300 --> 00:48:56.159
They use it in law. Reasonable suspicion? That ain't it.
857
00:48:56.769 --> 00:48:57.269
The other one.
858
00:48:57.510 --> 00:48:57.909
Anyways.
859
00:48:59.469 --> 00:49:00.289
Beyond a reasonable doubt.
860
00:49:01.139 --> 00:49:04.300
No, I don't know. That's in court. There's something specific
861
00:49:04.340 --> 00:49:07.360
to allow searches and, you know, I don't know.
862
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:08.519
Oh, I get what you're saying.
863
00:49:08.619 --> 00:49:13.309
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Probable cause. We got there.
864
00:49:13.349 --> 00:49:16.889
Thank you, Brain. It took six years. Sorry to everyone listening. So,
865
00:49:17.110 --> 00:49:19.969
you know, he's got the motive. There would be enough there.
866
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:25.559
to have probable cause to investigate from that point um
867
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:28.159
i think it's a really interesting choice by both characters
868
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:35.659
and i really like how the fallout is explosive even
869
00:49:35.739 --> 00:49:39.059
if it's not you know big loud explosions it's Tiny
870
00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:41.800
little explosions left and right and left and right and
871
00:49:41.860 --> 00:49:45.440
left and right. Because he literally gets home and then
872
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:51.829
gets called to go back by Carrie. Do we trust Carrie?
873
00:49:54.510 --> 00:49:55.130
Thank you.
874
00:49:55.409 --> 00:49:59.550
I don't think I do. This episode has sort of
875
00:50:00.230 --> 00:50:02.550
dialed up my suspicion about her.
876
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.679
He's too lovey-dovey.
877
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:10.289
He is, but that's the point. That's what I mean.
878
00:50:10.329 --> 00:50:11.949
That's why I'm suspicious, too.
879
00:50:12.010 --> 00:50:12.349
Yeah, yeah.
880
00:50:12.389 --> 00:50:14.889
That's why I'm suspicious, too, of, like, that seems new
881
00:50:14.909 --> 00:50:15.690
to her character.
882
00:50:16.809 --> 00:50:22.670
And, like, sometime during this episode, she, like, outright told John, like,
883
00:50:23.070 --> 00:50:25.670
the fake tears and all of these things. So, like,
884
00:50:26.369 --> 00:50:28.360
and you bought it. Like, did you buy it? Like,
885
00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:33.500
I could have been playing this entire time. And while
886
00:50:33.539 --> 00:50:36.679
she's obviously trying to, like, you know, give him the
887
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.219
heads up that, like, that could have been John's too
888
00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:42.219
smart for that anyways. You would have picked up on
889
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.630
that immediately. But I do think that she has another
890
00:50:46.690 --> 00:50:52.190
sort of suspicious motive. I don't think it's all rainbows
891
00:50:52.230 --> 00:50:56.239
and sunshine when it comes to Sheriff Kane. I just
892
00:50:56.260 --> 00:50:58.260
want to go back to that conversation in the diner.
893
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.920
Y'all spoke about everything except for the bat guy in Gotham.
894
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:08.460
The bat guy in Gotham City that Guy Gardner copied.
895
00:51:10.170 --> 00:51:10.889
How dare you?
896
00:51:10.909 --> 00:51:13.329
I was going to get there. I was kind of
897
00:51:13.349 --> 00:51:15.849
thinking Easter egg section. You know what I mean? But yeah,
898
00:51:15.869 --> 00:51:22.349
bad guy from Gotham City. Our second confirmation that Batman
899
00:51:22.489 --> 00:51:24.929
is in fact active in the DCU. This is the
900
00:51:24.969 --> 00:51:28.760
first one confirming he is still active as we speak
901
00:51:28.820 --> 00:51:31.579
in the present day DCU. The first look obviously was
902
00:51:31.619 --> 00:51:34.900
Creature Commandos. That was a story told in the past.
903
00:51:35.420 --> 00:51:38.239
This is the first confirmation that he is still active
904
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:42.239
within the DC universe in Gotham. He's here. Are we
905
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.579
ever going to meet him? Who knows? But he's here.
906
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.440
He exists.
907
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:53.880
Yeah, that Justice League is going to be co-owned or
908
00:51:53.980 --> 00:51:59.280
co-funded by Wayne Enterprises and Jon Stewart. You heard it
909
00:51:59.300 --> 00:51:59.739
here first.
910
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:06.440
Jan, what did you think of the diner scene between
911
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:12.019
the two of them the do you think Al had
912
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:16.260
any inkling of John showing up and this was happenstance
913
00:52:16.429 --> 00:52:19.650
or do you think Al was trying to bait John
914
00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:24.530
into finishing the investigation that he started and knew he
915
00:52:24.550 --> 00:52:24.949
won't be.
916
00:52:24.909 --> 00:52:28.349
Able to finish honestly I didn't even think any of
917
00:52:28.409 --> 00:52:31.550
that I didn't I literally had no I'm at a
918
00:52:31.610 --> 00:52:35.829
point with the show after last week Where I feel like,
919
00:52:35.849 --> 00:52:37.289
like I told you guys, I'm kind of just here
920
00:52:37.329 --> 00:52:39.550
for the ride. I didn't even think about any, like,
921
00:52:41.219 --> 00:52:45.000
underlying theories. Like, even, like, for example, can we trust Carey?
922
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.800
I'm taking, like you mentioned last week, I'm at a
923
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.119
point where I'm taking everything at face value. I don't
924
00:52:50.139 --> 00:52:52.619
feel like there's any reason for me not to trust Carey,
925
00:52:52.659 --> 00:52:56.059
especially with the whole exposition or the dialogue there. Like,
926
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.199
how could you know I'm not faking it? And he's like,
927
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.530
you're too real for that. Like, that's real. That's honest.
928
00:53:01.550 --> 00:53:02.530
That's 100. That's real.
929
00:53:03.219 --> 00:53:06.400
Again, that to me seems like the writers being like,
930
00:53:07.460 --> 00:53:09.949
this is straight.
931
00:53:10.050 --> 00:53:12.389
This is a wink to let you know this is
932
00:53:13.010 --> 00:53:16.070
face value. But I also kind of wonder if potentially, if.
933
00:53:18.030 --> 00:53:22.670
She doesn't have any ulterior motive, I think Hal did.
934
00:53:22.730 --> 00:53:24.130
I think Hal was playing her.
935
00:53:24.769 --> 00:53:27.010
The only thing I was thinking of is that she's
936
00:53:27.090 --> 00:53:29.989
trying to hide the fact that her son Noah is
937
00:53:30.150 --> 00:53:32.809
a Manhunter. Like that's literally the only thing I could
938
00:53:32.849 --> 00:53:36.869
think of. Yeah. Not like, and I don't think that's
939
00:53:37.429 --> 00:53:40.710
necessarily as like a, I don't trust you. That's just
940
00:53:40.809 --> 00:53:42.469
a mother protecting her child.
941
00:53:42.789 --> 00:53:43.269
For sure.
942
00:53:43.329 --> 00:53:46.380
I'm not really, I'm not really looking at her as
943
00:53:46.389 --> 00:53:51.340
like the bad guy in that sense. However, unless Noah
944
00:53:51.659 --> 00:53:54.300
is the one that killed, you know, Noah is the
945
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.760
one that killed how, because he's a man hunter. Like
946
00:53:56.780 --> 00:53:58.860
we talked about last week and he gets back to
947
00:53:58.900 --> 00:54:02.460
his nature. But the bar scene, I don't know. I mean,
948
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:07.250
I feel like Hal deserved it, kind of. He deserved
949
00:54:07.269 --> 00:54:09.739
to get his nose broken. I wasn't mad at it.
950
00:54:11.230 --> 00:54:15.050
I wasn't mad at it, but I also felt like
951
00:54:15.090 --> 00:54:18.019
I was like, damn. And now that he's dead, it's like,
952
00:54:18.380 --> 00:54:22.460
are we ever going to have the moment of respect
953
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:28.280
between each other? That's the only thing I was hoping
954
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.309
to have in that moment. But, I mean, he still
955
00:54:30.349 --> 00:54:33.170
deserved it. I love the you didn't fall, you fell
956
00:54:33.230 --> 00:54:35.989
line that we got in the trailer. And it was cool, man.
957
00:54:36.010 --> 00:54:39.150
I don't have any, like, deeper thoughts if he was
958
00:54:39.250 --> 00:54:42.960
trying to, like, bait John or not. I don't think so.
959
00:54:43.059 --> 00:54:45.280
I think it was just, like, a moment between them. Because, like,
960
00:54:45.659 --> 00:54:48.239
TCR said, he didn't even know that he was going
961
00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:50.340
to be there. That was a play by his mom.
962
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.639
I think he did. I think he did. I don't
963
00:54:53.659 --> 00:54:56.789
think his mom was correct. I think Hal was playing
964
00:54:56.829 --> 00:54:59.909
his mom to get John back involved. I think Hal
965
00:54:59.969 --> 00:55:00.599
was playing Gary.
966
00:55:00.619 --> 00:55:03.280
Why would she not tell him that after she.
967
00:55:03.539 --> 00:55:05.599
How would she know? How would she know she was
968
00:55:05.619 --> 00:55:06.440
being played by Hal?
969
00:55:07.260 --> 00:55:09.860
There's a voicemail from her saying, I'm sorry I lied.
970
00:55:09.900 --> 00:55:11.800
I know you're mad at me for lying. Just call
971
00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:12.260
me back.
972
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:13.739
Yeah, she.
973
00:55:13.860 --> 00:55:16.340
How would she know if she was being manipulated by
974
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:16.929
Hal Jordan?
975
00:55:18.789 --> 00:55:22.969
Because if he said... If he told her... I'm saying
976
00:55:22.989 --> 00:55:26.789
she's not in on it. She thinks she did something wrong.
977
00:55:26.829 --> 00:55:29.269
She thinks she's lying. I'm saying how planted that seed
978
00:55:29.289 --> 00:55:31.409
in her head in the first place, how the whole
979
00:55:31.469 --> 00:55:34.530
reason for contacting her and reaching out to her is
980
00:55:34.610 --> 00:55:38.719
to get Jon Stewart to eventually complete his mission.
981
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:43.579
Not for 10 years. He's in jail. He's in prison.
982
00:55:43.860 --> 00:55:48.840
He's not talking to Jon's mom for 10 years when
983
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:53.889
their connection isn't even together anymore. They don't have this.
984
00:55:53.909 --> 00:55:57.650
He calls her Bernadette. He's not he's not connected to
985
00:55:57.690 --> 00:56:01.429
his mom. So how is not playing the long game
986
00:56:01.769 --> 00:56:05.489
in prison for 10 years to plant this seed to
987
00:56:05.590 --> 00:56:07.530
come back to have John come back?
988
00:56:07.650 --> 00:56:09.760
I don't think if I don't think if how wasn't
989
00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:12.000
playing a long game, he wouldn't be back in Rushville.
990
00:56:12.739 --> 00:56:14.780
What if he knows their job is not done?
991
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:20.460
What if it's not how it's the ring? What if
992
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:24.050
this is what he didn't have the ring? Yeah, but
993
00:56:24.289 --> 00:56:27.610
that chip off the ring... There was no chip.
994
00:56:27.670 --> 00:56:30.250
That's just the way... There was no chip. That was
995
00:56:30.289 --> 00:56:32.150
just the way that you get the thing out.
996
00:56:32.489 --> 00:56:34.309
No, it's not. Because we've seen it this episode that
997
00:56:34.349 --> 00:56:37.280
he lit it and the hologram can come out. So
998
00:56:37.420 --> 00:56:38.880
it was chipped for a reason.
999
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:39.840
It was chipped.
1000
00:56:40.139 --> 00:56:42.800
You can... We see it this episode. At the end
1001
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:44.860
of the episode... I mean, I didn't want to spoil that.
1002
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:48.719
But he can activate the ring to bring out the hologram.
1003
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.010
So TCR might have a point there with the chip...
1004
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.920
that could be have leaving the piece of the, like
1005
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.639
the hologram. I don't think so. I think that's like a.
1006
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.659
But I, I think that's.
1007
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:02.050
The, it's a fun one.
1008
00:57:02.059 --> 00:57:02.519
Too far.
1009
00:57:02.780 --> 00:57:03.940
It's so, it's too far.
1010
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.920
That's the too far down the rabbit hole theory to me. I,
1011
00:57:08.139 --> 00:57:11.639
I don't, I, it's a fun, you know, um, throw
1012
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.800
it out there. It's a good thought puzzle, but I
1013
00:57:14.860 --> 00:57:17.369
think that this was how Jordan for real, this was
1014
00:57:17.429 --> 00:57:20.940
how Jordan in prison, this was how Jordan proper. I,
1015
00:57:22.300 --> 00:57:24.019
I've seen a lot of theories that there's a clone
1016
00:57:24.059 --> 00:57:26.139
of Hal Jordan and the clone is the one who
1017
00:57:26.179 --> 00:57:28.760
went to jail and Hal's out there. And then I've
1018
00:57:28.780 --> 00:57:31.400
seen the reverse where Hal's in jail and the clone
1019
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.590
is out there. And I'm like, because it's the whole,
1020
00:57:35.610 --> 00:57:39.769
you know, who broke Sinestro out? Obviously, the line of,
1021
00:57:40.570 --> 00:57:42.909
you know, Hal would be the prime, you know, Jordan's
1022
00:57:42.929 --> 00:57:44.650
the prime suspect, but he kind of has a great
1023
00:57:44.730 --> 00:57:48.340
alibi being locked up here. That's what I'm saying for
1024
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:53.039
no reason. So it's really interesting. Cause it's like, that's
1025
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:54.360
a suspicious ass sentence.
1026
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:55.409
Huh?
1027
00:57:55.510 --> 00:57:57.750
It was very weird how that was just thrown in,
1028
00:57:57.769 --> 00:58:00.989
in general, like the way that was slid in as
1029
00:58:01.050 --> 00:58:01.769
like a side.
1030
00:58:01.789 --> 00:58:02.670
Yeah.
1031
00:58:02.690 --> 00:58:06.530
Oh, and also, and then just completely moved on from that.
1032
00:58:06.570 --> 00:58:08.889
Why did, yeah. Why did guy even need to tell
1033
00:58:08.969 --> 00:58:11.349
John that like, what is John supposed to do with
1034
00:58:11.389 --> 00:58:12.190
that information?
1035
00:58:12.690 --> 00:58:15.809
Here's where I'm wondering if a guy is smarter than
1036
00:58:15.869 --> 00:58:17.889
we think. And he's going like, Hey.
1037
00:58:17.949 --> 00:58:19.570
He is, but well, for sure.
1038
00:58:19.630 --> 00:58:21.849
It's more of like, did you know Sinestro broke out?
1039
00:58:22.610 --> 00:58:22.789
Hmm.
1040
00:58:23.889 --> 00:58:28.099
Almost like maybe you should do something about it. Like there,
1041
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.659
there are some, I've seen some people on the internet going, Oh,
1042
00:58:30.699 --> 00:58:34.079
is he actually like, you know, reminding him to tap
1043
00:58:34.139 --> 00:58:36.099
the ring and blah, blah, blah. No, I think John's
1044
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:41.500
playing guy there, but guys also kind of like, you know, like, Hey,
1045
00:58:41.980 --> 00:58:46.190
I don't have love or respect for how Jordan blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1046
00:58:46.289 --> 00:58:48.969
And then he goes, At the same time, he was
1047
00:58:49.010 --> 00:58:51.409
a core member. I have love and respect for the core,
1048
00:58:51.510 --> 00:58:57.539
et cetera, et cetera. How do I want to dive
1049
00:58:57.619 --> 00:58:59.380
into this one? Let's keep it simple.
1050
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:03.219
I honestly think the Sinatra thing was just guy gossiping.
1051
00:59:04.630 --> 00:59:04.929
Yeah.
1052
00:59:05.369 --> 00:59:08.150
I think that was a setup. That's a setup for me.
1053
00:59:09.130 --> 00:59:11.550
I think they were utilized. Guy Gardner as a way
1054
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:15.239
of getting in some of those storyline exposition things that
1055
00:59:15.300 --> 00:59:17.099
couldn't come up naturally in conversation.
1056
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:22.519
Yeah, I concur. You know, the whole Spazkaban. Spazkaban.
1057
00:59:22.820 --> 00:59:23.340
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
1058
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.539
Like, that was just like a, oh, weird. And it's
1059
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.349
interesting that... how it was brought up. It was brought up.
1060
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:33.440
You just, after talking about how and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
1061
00:59:33.500 --> 00:59:37.639
you know, it's the timing of that is interesting. I
1062
00:59:37.699 --> 00:59:41.929
think it was a plot device to go, Hey, Sinestro
1063
00:59:41.989 --> 00:59:45.010
is coming. Get ready for that. Cause that's where we're going.
1064
00:59:45.190 --> 00:59:45.969
It has to pay off.
1065
00:59:46.289 --> 00:59:49.309
For sure. Yeah. It's not just a line, but it's,
1066
00:59:49.389 --> 00:59:51.050
I'm not saying it was a throw away.
1067
00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:54.909
I'm saying like they utilize guy to say, Oh, and
1068
00:59:55.050 --> 00:59:57.070
also because there's no other way it.
1069
00:59:57.070 --> 01:00:00.280
Could come up. casually in a conversation.
1070
01:00:00.019 --> 01:00:03.179
In universe guy is just being guy and just talking
1071
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.340
for the sake of talking. But I'm, I'm hopeful that
1072
01:00:06.380 --> 01:00:09.889
maybe he was just like planting a little seed going, Hey,
1073
01:00:10.260 --> 01:00:15.690
maybe this was Sinestro kind of thing. That's a whole
1074
01:00:15.710 --> 01:00:16.969
different thought out there.
1075
01:00:17.010 --> 01:00:19.489
Cause he was gossiping about like, he was bringing this
1076
01:00:19.590 --> 01:00:21.989
up too before John had said, Oh, by the way,
1077
01:00:22.050 --> 01:00:22.909
he's fucking dead.
1078
01:00:23.510 --> 01:00:26.610
Yeah, that's true. He was very much, you know, Oh,
1079
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:28.320
I remember what he said. You know, go climb a rope.
1080
01:00:28.340 --> 01:00:30.099
It was like, no, hey, you're old buddy.
1081
01:00:31.059 --> 01:00:33.480
He said space... He told him about Sinestro breaking out
1082
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:34.619
of space as a man at the end.
1083
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.199
Yeah, that's what we're saying.
1084
01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:38.340
Oh, I thought you said that he said it before
1085
01:00:38.380 --> 01:00:38.800
he told.
1086
01:00:38.860 --> 01:00:41.500
No, no, no. He was gossiping about stuff before he
1087
01:00:41.539 --> 01:00:42.579
knew how Jordan was dead.
1088
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:43.199
No.
1089
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.420
Yeah, I was just talking... I was coming in the way...
1090
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.159
I was saying that just like John was the one
1091
01:00:47.179 --> 01:00:49.820
who informed Guy. Guy didn't know pre-John.
1092
01:00:50.739 --> 01:00:50.880
Which.
1093
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:53.400
Wait, are you saying... Are you saying Guy.
1094
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:58.719
Said Space Azkaban before he knew Hal was dead? No.
1095
01:00:59.179 --> 01:01:02.340
No, we're saying that these are two separate points. He
1096
01:01:02.380 --> 01:01:07.329
was bullshitting with John. Unrelated. Like, he was talking shit.
1097
01:01:07.389 --> 01:01:10.170
You know, oh, you know, when I first met Hal Jordan.
1098
01:01:10.210 --> 01:01:11.849
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.
1099
01:01:11.889 --> 01:01:13.250
And then it's like, yeah, he's dead.
1100
01:01:13.630 --> 01:01:16.070
What? Okay, I got you. I got you.
1101
01:01:16.309 --> 01:01:17.989
He was talking shit about Hal and then he kind
1102
01:01:18.030 --> 01:01:21.679
of stops talking shit about Hal a little bit. Because
1103
01:01:21.699 --> 01:01:24.869
you're a gym teacher. No, because he's a shit fuck. Yeah, well,
1104
01:01:24.889 --> 01:01:28.949
that shit fuck is dead. What? Like, instant mood changer.
1105
01:01:31.090 --> 01:01:33.809
I'm just going to say this here because we've mentioned
1106
01:01:33.849 --> 01:01:39.610
it a couple times. Here's my full thought. Carrie killed
1107
01:01:39.750 --> 01:01:45.969
Hal because she knew Noah was a Manhunter and Hal
1108
01:01:46.030 --> 01:01:49.460
was either already learning or knew that he was a
1109
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:51.920
Manhunter and she had to do whatever she had to
1110
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:54.909
do to protect him. That does not mean she was
1111
01:01:54.969 --> 01:01:57.710
fake crying. I think she genuinely cared.
1112
01:01:58.170 --> 01:01:59.989
But she had to. I like that.
1113
01:02:00.289 --> 01:02:02.320
For Hal, but she had to do what she had
1114
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:07.599
to do for her son, no matter what. And in
1115
01:02:07.619 --> 01:02:11.820
the dinner scene, which we haven't gotten to yet, there
1116
01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:17.130
are some looks from Noah. That are like, he's just
1117
01:02:17.190 --> 01:02:21.170
saying some stuff to say that, like, I'm saying what
1118
01:02:21.269 --> 01:02:24.010
I've been told. And there's a real connection between Jon
1119
01:02:24.030 --> 01:02:24.530
and Noah.
1120
01:02:24.889 --> 01:02:25.389
Oh, hell yeah.
1121
01:02:26.110 --> 01:02:28.170
That I think is going to matter more than anything.
1122
01:02:28.269 --> 01:02:30.909
I don't think it's a manipulation thing where the Manhunter
1123
01:02:30.929 --> 01:02:32.630
is trying to manipulate Jon. I think it's going to
1124
01:02:32.670 --> 01:02:36.429
be not necessarily manipulating, even though Jon does work this week.
1125
01:02:36.769 --> 01:02:41.090
I think Jon is going to influence Noah to not
1126
01:02:41.230 --> 01:02:45.050
follow the path his creator set for him He's going
1127
01:02:45.070 --> 01:02:47.400
to break the mold just like John did because this
1128
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:51.719
whole show subtly is about generational trauma and breaking out
1129
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:56.820
of it. And Noah, full in, Noah's going to become
1130
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:02.139
the Manhunter, the hero from the comics. He will also
1131
01:03:02.179 --> 01:03:06.199
be an actual Manhunter, I think. But however he was created,
1132
01:03:06.349 --> 01:03:08.730
he's going to just be like, nah, I'm going to
1133
01:03:08.769 --> 01:03:12.170
do my own thing. Just like John did. And in
1134
01:03:12.210 --> 01:03:15.909
a way, just like Hal did. And technically Sinestro, but
1135
01:03:16.030 --> 01:03:17.780
that was evil, so we don't want to cover that one.
1136
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:18.780
Was it evil?
1137
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.559
From a fascist point of view. Yeah, we don't even
1138
01:03:23.579 --> 01:03:25.760
know that Sinestro's bad because we could still in this
1139
01:03:25.820 --> 01:03:28.559
universe be the Guardians are terrible, but his name is Sinestro,
1140
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:29.500
so he's going to be bad.
1141
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:32.570
Sinestro is in his name. What do you mean?
1142
01:03:35.190 --> 01:03:37.510
Where's John Cena to let us know the decepticons?
1143
01:03:37.570 --> 01:03:43.110
Good luck, John. I, so I am on.
1144
01:03:43.050 --> 01:03:45.159
A similar train to you, Thomas, but I think we
1145
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.019
get there differently. I think we have similar destinations. We're
1146
01:03:48.059 --> 01:03:51.440
just on a, we're coming from different locations. And so
1147
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:57.590
I think I know what, to me, this episode made
1148
01:03:57.630 --> 01:03:59.750
it clearer that that boy is a man Hunter. I
1149
01:03:59.789 --> 01:04:02.030
don't trust him even a little bit like that is
1150
01:04:02.050 --> 01:04:03.889
a man Hunter. Oh yeah.
1151
01:04:03.969 --> 01:04:06.230
Natural born leader. Well, whatever his mom said, he's a
1152
01:04:06.269 --> 01:04:07.369
natural born leader.
1153
01:04:07.949 --> 01:04:08.329
Yeah.
1154
01:04:08.349 --> 01:04:09.659
I don't, you know, get into politics.
1155
01:04:10.420 --> 01:04:12.980
I don't think Carrie even knows. I don't think his
1156
01:04:13.019 --> 01:04:17.679
mom knows that he's a man. I think how new. Yeah.
1157
01:04:17.699 --> 01:04:20.619
And that is why how returned to Rushville, which is
1158
01:04:20.659 --> 01:04:23.159
why I think is why he's wanting John to carry
1159
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:27.039
on this investigation. Cause he wasn't done it. Cause he's first.
1160
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:29.360
I still don't know how or why or who killed him,
1161
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:32.019
but that's why I think he was trying to get
1162
01:04:32.059 --> 01:04:35.239
John to continue that investigation. I think he was spec.
1163
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:39.750
Have it had was, uh, trying to get closer to
1164
01:04:39.780 --> 01:04:42.219
the situation. That's actually why he returned. I don't believe
1165
01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:44.579
it was for Carrie. I think he was manipulating Carrie
1166
01:04:44.619 --> 01:04:47.679
a little bit. And I do think he cared for her,
1167
01:04:47.699 --> 01:04:49.460
but I think there was a little bit of manipulation
1168
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:51.539
there as well to get to the source of the info.
1169
01:04:54.940 --> 01:04:58.000
And I, and that's why I think he was back there.
1170
01:04:58.199 --> 01:04:59.059
And I think.
1171
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:01.739
Noah's whole, yeah, I want to get into politics. I
1172
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:02.599
want to be the president.
1173
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:07.219
That is part of the, path that zoe put him
1174
01:05:07.300 --> 01:05:11.210
on right like remember everything i taught you yes i
1175
01:05:11.230 --> 01:05:13.730
want to teach you to take everything that i did
1176
01:05:13.829 --> 01:05:17.090
here in rushville and you're gonna do that with the
1177
01:05:17.150 --> 01:05:20.449
planet that's kind of like how i think that gets
1178
01:05:21.090 --> 01:05:24.389
extrapolated why he wants to be a senator why he
1179
01:05:24.429 --> 01:05:29.210
wants to uh wants to be a president um that's
1180
01:05:29.250 --> 01:05:31.050
kind of the route i think i don't think carrie
1181
01:05:31.090 --> 01:05:34.849
knows though I think she maybe was getting played by
1182
01:05:34.909 --> 01:05:37.110
Hal a little bit. What do you think?
1183
01:05:39.429 --> 01:05:39.670
Yeah.
1184
01:05:39.769 --> 01:05:42.019
And like all of you guys, you make like really,
1185
01:05:42.059 --> 01:05:46.159
really good points. I'm of the camp that thinks that
1186
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:50.059
she probably didn't know at first. And over the last
1187
01:05:50.099 --> 01:05:52.989
couple of years, maybe she found out and that could
1188
01:05:53.010 --> 01:05:56.530
have been like, I'm, I'm with, with DC on that
1189
01:05:56.630 --> 01:06:00.269
one that could have led to the, to the scenario
1190
01:06:00.369 --> 01:06:06.119
where she's, well, holding Hal at that point and basically
1191
01:06:06.139 --> 01:06:09.039
just saying, I have to choose my son over you.
1192
01:06:09.059 --> 01:06:12.400
I'm sorry. I care for you and you call me
1193
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:17.510
buttercup and all of those things. But I'm sorry. I'm
1194
01:06:17.530 --> 01:06:21.369
putting my kid in front of you, dude. And I'm sorry.
1195
01:06:21.630 --> 01:06:25.409
I have to see you go. And that's what it is.
1196
01:06:25.489 --> 01:06:28.530
And I think that John might end up getting to
1197
01:06:28.590 --> 01:06:31.289
that point sooner rather than later. But I don't think
1198
01:06:31.309 --> 01:06:35.090
that that's going to be the biggest reveal of the season.
1199
01:06:35.110 --> 01:06:38.210
I think that we are still going to get the entire,
1200
01:06:38.250 --> 01:06:42.679
like Liana just like vanished into thin air. Like there
1201
01:06:42.820 --> 01:06:47.099
wasn't a full closure to her after the season. So
1202
01:06:47.460 --> 01:06:51.300
I still think that everybody speaking about Sinestro got broken
1203
01:06:51.340 --> 01:06:54.260
out of prison. I still think that Liana was the
1204
01:06:54.340 --> 01:06:56.760
one who broke him out of prison and they've been
1205
01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:59.440
working together all this time. And I think that that's
1206
01:06:59.460 --> 01:07:03.119
going to be the finale sort of big event that's
1207
01:07:03.139 --> 01:07:05.739
going to close up at the show. It's going to
1208
01:07:05.780 --> 01:07:08.300
be John sort of taking the two of them out
1209
01:07:08.460 --> 01:07:13.510
and just being some more stability to Owen and to
1210
01:07:13.530 --> 01:07:14.050
the Guardians.
1211
01:07:15.809 --> 01:07:19.789
It is interesting that they're framing the new main mystery
1212
01:07:20.690 --> 01:07:25.510
as who killed Hal Jordan. And I think that's the
1213
01:07:25.550 --> 01:07:30.260
mystery of the show I care about the least. I'm
1214
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:34.840
more interested in why Hal was back in Rushville. What
1215
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:39.010
was he investigating? Which will go hand-in-hand with who killed him,
1216
01:07:39.050 --> 01:07:41.130
so those are almost one and the same. But I'm
1217
01:07:41.190 --> 01:07:43.989
also more interested in what we get at the end
1218
01:07:44.030 --> 01:07:48.230
of this episode with John taking the ring and who
1219
01:07:48.269 --> 01:07:51.489
broke out Sinestro. What's Sinestro going to do next? I
1220
01:07:51.690 --> 01:07:54.010
am more interested in that than I do actually who
1221
01:07:54.070 --> 01:07:56.750
shot Hal. And so I think that's where I was
1222
01:07:57.309 --> 01:08:00.909
feeling like it was... among the weaker episodes for me
1223
01:08:00.969 --> 01:08:03.789
was just like, I don't really care about that part.
1224
01:08:04.369 --> 01:08:06.289
It's all these other parts I care about. So like
1225
01:08:06.690 --> 01:08:09.449
the end of the episode, when John grabs the ring,
1226
01:08:09.510 --> 01:08:12.250
puts it on his finger and like slams the thing
1227
01:08:12.269 --> 01:08:16.140
to get that charge back, which I thought maybe I'll
1228
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:21.619
just like have like a little lantern battery in his car.
1229
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:23.640
I didn't realize that you can just smack it on
1230
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:27.539
anything and get 5% charge. That seems wild.
1231
01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:32.140
Also, That's the importance of having a mentor. Guy Gardner
1232
01:08:32.180 --> 01:08:35.399
doesn't know anything about that. Jon Stewart does.
1233
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:40.550
And I think we were, like, right straight on. I
1234
01:08:40.569 --> 01:08:42.970
think we nailed it earlier in the season, too. We
1235
01:08:42.989 --> 01:08:46.189
were saying, like, hey, if Hal actually is dead, this
1236
01:08:46.229 --> 01:08:49.170
hologram will be the purpose of getting Kyle Chandler back
1237
01:08:49.310 --> 01:08:52.359
in either future movies, future seasons of You don't have
1238
01:08:52.390 --> 01:08:55.109
to have him back as a full lead role. You
1239
01:08:55.130 --> 01:08:57.869
get him back as a guest recurring spot, then he
1240
01:08:57.909 --> 01:09:00.100
pops up in the hologram. I think we just kind
1241
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.800
of got proof that that's going to be happening here.
1242
01:09:03.300 --> 01:09:06.819
Not necessarily because in the trailer, the mid-season trailer, they
1243
01:09:06.859 --> 01:09:10.600
put out Sinestro says, I have a way to bring
1244
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:13.560
back Hal Jordan. So we don't really, I don't want to,
1245
01:09:13.899 --> 01:09:18.149
we don't necessarily know that it's only the hologram and
1246
01:09:18.210 --> 01:09:20.430
we don't get our rebirth from Hal. I mean, we
1247
01:09:20.470 --> 01:09:22.510
don't know. Again, that's just what we got from the
1248
01:09:22.550 --> 01:09:23.350
mid-season trailer.
1249
01:09:23.789 --> 01:09:26.310
I got a question for you on that. What do
1250
01:09:26.329 --> 01:09:32.239
you think Sinestro's talking about? Is it the black hand?
1251
01:09:32.859 --> 01:09:36.239
You know, your darkest, your blackest night there? Or is
1252
01:09:36.340 --> 01:09:39.760
it parallax-related, fear-related?
1253
01:09:39.979 --> 01:09:41.800
I feel like it could be both. I feel like
1254
01:09:41.819 --> 01:09:46.970
this could be the Rey- both happen like he's trying
1255
01:09:47.069 --> 01:09:50.369
with maybe with scar like to af's theory earlier like
1256
01:09:50.930 --> 01:09:52.630
and i'm not gonna say a scar but the guardian
1257
01:09:52.670 --> 01:09:54.909
liana that we've seen i i think that was my
1258
01:09:54.949 --> 01:09:56.670
theory that she was scar and that's why we didn't
1259
01:09:56.689 --> 01:10:00.270
see her guardian face um that's just my theory but
1260
01:10:01.329 --> 01:10:03.750
to add on to what af said maybe she did
1261
01:10:03.850 --> 01:10:07.909
break out sinestro and they're trying to resurrect hal jordan
1262
01:10:08.430 --> 01:10:10.970
so they can have him under their will and they're
1263
01:10:11.010 --> 01:10:14.699
doing that through the method of the blackest knight Like
1264
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:19.880
the black lanterns. And it fails. Sinestro's fearful of this.
1265
01:10:20.180 --> 01:10:24.100
Creates the yellow lanterns. In that same way. I don't know.
1266
01:10:24.140 --> 01:10:28.010
This is a lot of honestly throwing darts at the board.
1267
01:10:28.470 --> 01:10:30.869
And again I'm kind of taking things at face value now.
1268
01:10:31.350 --> 01:10:33.529
That's why I don't have any crazy theories. I just
1269
01:10:33.590 --> 01:10:35.989
wanted to say to what TJ was saying. I don't
1270
01:10:36.029 --> 01:10:38.470
want to necessarily put a pin in that. Because we
1271
01:10:38.529 --> 01:10:41.649
did get that line in the midseason trailer. So to
1272
01:10:41.739 --> 01:10:43.920
answer your question TCR. I could see it being both.
1273
01:10:44.270 --> 01:10:45.270
I could see it being both.
1274
01:10:46.170 --> 01:10:50.369
To me, that's just Sinestro giving, there are many paths,
1275
01:10:50.670 --> 01:10:54.949
the dark side, to which many would say are unnatural.
1276
01:10:55.069 --> 01:10:56.199
Or whatever that line is.
1277
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.020
Like, powers.
1278
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:03.380
Just, like, trying to talk him into, like, getting him
1279
01:11:03.500 --> 01:11:05.460
onto that dark side. But I feel like I'm the
1280
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:07.420
only one in the world, and I feel crazy. I
1281
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:09.439
think I'm the only one in the world that just thinks...
1282
01:11:10.340 --> 01:11:12.939
The Guardians are just the Guardians. Liana is just a
1283
01:11:12.979 --> 01:11:17.399
regular old Guardian, and the Guardians just suck. I mean,
1284
01:11:17.420 --> 01:11:21.300
I don't know where I'm at with Liana at this point.
1285
01:11:22.300 --> 01:11:30.680
She's very... Especially because that ring allegedly ended up on Oa,
1286
01:11:31.460 --> 01:11:36.699
and Guy Gardner went and got it, allegedly. So it
1287
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:41.850
would be really... interesting if Liana was no longer a Guardian.
1288
01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:46.340
Or like, was bad all along. Maybe she's Breaking Bad
1289
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:47.579
now kind of thing. Who knows?
1290
01:11:48.579 --> 01:11:50.579
But I think it would be very interesting.
1291
01:11:51.260 --> 01:11:52.840
They just suck. That's fine.
1292
01:11:53.220 --> 01:11:54.960
I'm cool with that.
1293
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:55.680
Cash.
1294
01:11:57.149 --> 01:12:00.149
Do you think that Liana's still been speaking to Bernadette?
1295
01:12:02.050 --> 01:12:06.329
Telling her that there's another opportunity. There's a yellow ring
1296
01:12:07.010 --> 01:12:10.729
that we can get your son in. Bernadette's like, okay,
1297
01:12:11.149 --> 01:12:13.250
I want my son to get the ring. I don't
1298
01:12:13.289 --> 01:12:16.510
care which color it is. You get him that ring
1299
01:12:16.789 --> 01:12:19.109
and I will do anything that you tell me to do.
1300
01:12:19.729 --> 01:12:22.289
And that's why she set up this meeting with Al
1301
01:12:22.310 --> 01:12:25.529
Jordan and Al didn't know about it at all. That's
1302
01:12:25.569 --> 01:12:27.979
why he was so surprised to see John. He was like,
1303
01:12:28.100 --> 01:12:31.140
why you? And he's like, for you to apologize. And
1304
01:12:31.149 --> 01:12:33.939
he's like, apologize for what? So it just seems like
1305
01:12:35.300 --> 01:12:37.300
a part of me thinks that Al didn't even know
1306
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:40.949
John was going to going to come to the diner.
1307
01:12:41.020 --> 01:12:44.100
Yeah but he took advantage of it exactly that's what
1308
01:12:44.140 --> 01:12:45.899
i think too i think he i didn't think i
1309
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.079
don't think he planted the seed but once he saw
1310
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:50.439
the opportunity he's like all right fuck it like i
1311
01:12:50.460 --> 01:12:52.819
could i can get him back in or something i
1312
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:54.970
do want to before we head out i don't i
1313
01:12:54.970 --> 01:12:56.569
don't know if i know tj didn't have this like
1314
01:12:56.590 --> 01:12:58.670
on a bracket or anything but i wanted to highlight
1315
01:12:58.689 --> 01:13:00.550
this because we didn't talk about this at the funeral
1316
01:13:01.149 --> 01:13:02.229
af how do you feel about.
1317
01:13:02.090 --> 01:13:04.430
This i was gonna say to be clear i feel
1318
01:13:04.449 --> 01:13:06.109
we got lots left i don't think we're in near
1319
01:13:06.149 --> 01:13:07.569
head out oh yeah no yeah.
1320
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.199
Are we Yeah.
1321
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.119
We've just been talking about one thing.
1322
01:13:11.140 --> 01:13:12.720
There's quite a bit to cover.
1323
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:15.619
Yeah, we're still in the first half of the episode.
1324
01:13:15.649 --> 01:13:24.210
Pearl, Aresia, Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Let's talk Carol, though,
1325
01:13:24.250 --> 01:13:29.970
because did I miss them introducing Carol in an earlier episode.
1326
01:13:30.029 --> 01:13:31.510
Or is this just straight?
1327
01:13:31.550 --> 01:13:34.850
We're going to introduce this character, and comic characters are
1328
01:13:34.869 --> 01:13:38.210
going to go woo-hoo, and non-comic readers are going to
1329
01:13:38.250 --> 01:13:42.770
go who the fuck is this? I think, I think
1330
01:13:42.810 --> 01:13:45.800
what will make them go, Oh, this character is important
1331
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:47.420
to Hal in some way is that she's one of
1332
01:13:47.460 --> 01:13:50.880
the three people at the funeral. So yeah, it was
1333
01:13:50.939 --> 01:13:53.399
just the fact that she was never mentioned or like,
1334
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:55.510
it was just like an odd choice of like, it
1335
01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:56.329
felt very much.
1336
01:13:56.550 --> 01:13:58.710
Are we supposed to know who this is? And the
1337
01:13:58.909 --> 01:14:01.329
only reason I knew who she was was because of
1338
01:14:02.270 --> 01:14:03.970
like cartoon and comics canon.
1339
01:14:04.449 --> 01:14:07.489
Yeah, no, that was her first appearance. And this is
1340
01:14:07.529 --> 01:14:10.710
where I rewound. Because I was like, oh, let's go.
1341
01:14:10.890 --> 01:14:15.000
I cheered like a touchdown. You know what I'm saying?
1342
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:18.180
I cheered like it was a touchdown for a team.
1343
01:14:19.420 --> 01:14:25.239
That shall remain nameless. And we... Why are you so mad?
1344
01:14:25.260 --> 01:14:27.100
Didn't they just win? Didn't they just win this week?
1345
01:14:28.550 --> 01:14:31.050
Yeah, but it wasn't pretty.
1346
01:14:32.270 --> 01:14:32.810
Put up 37.
1347
01:14:32.810 --> 01:14:36.729
Yeah, and our defense gave up how much?
1348
01:14:36.729 --> 01:14:40.869
30? 20. 20. I mean, Jaden Daniels broke his arm
1349
01:14:40.909 --> 01:14:42.829
in the second quarter, but 20. Exactly.
1350
01:14:43.130 --> 01:14:43.590
Exactly.
1351
01:14:43.869 --> 01:14:48.409
Anyways, the fact that she has held on to his
1352
01:14:48.609 --> 01:14:52.479
eulogy for however long that she's been holding on to
1353
01:14:52.539 --> 01:14:58.579
this eulogy is heartwarming and heartbreaking at the same time.
1354
01:15:00.380 --> 01:15:02.939
And then she also leaves the line.
1355
01:15:03.460 --> 01:15:06.539
That we kind of need, which is, I bet he
1356
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:10.140
likes you. And he just never told you that. And
1357
01:15:10.180 --> 01:15:12.520
it's like, we do know that. Because the hologram is like,
1358
01:15:13.180 --> 01:15:15.359
where's John? I like that kid.
1359
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:15.960
You know?
1360
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:16.600
So.
1361
01:15:16.619 --> 01:15:19.260
It was big.
1362
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:22.899
AF, you're big on the comics as well. What did
1363
01:15:22.930 --> 01:15:24.869
you think about Madam Ferris?
1364
01:15:25.430 --> 01:15:27.229
Firstly, AF, who is Carol Ferris?
1365
01:15:27.770 --> 01:15:32.090
Oh, yes, yes. That's a good idea. She mentioned that
1366
01:15:32.130 --> 01:15:35.510
she had something to do with health. And for people
1367
01:15:35.689 --> 01:15:40.890
who ignored the Green Lantern movie that came out in
1368
01:15:40.890 --> 01:15:46.210
2011 or however many years ago it was. She was
1369
01:15:46.250 --> 01:15:50.010
primarily Hal Jordan's love interest. She became a star, Sapphire,
1370
01:15:51.550 --> 01:15:56.930
who is also one of these sort of space heroes
1371
01:15:57.909 --> 01:16:03.010
over there. And yeah, that's in a nutshell who Carol
1372
01:16:03.029 --> 01:16:08.550
Farris is. She is the daughter of who I think
1373
01:16:09.270 --> 01:16:12.520
was the guy that gave Hal Jordan that mansion after
1374
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:16.060
seeing that scene. I'm like, we found the rich guy.
1375
01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:21.380
That's the guy who gave him the mansion. So yeah,
1376
01:16:22.279 --> 01:16:28.039
Paris Air, they own all of these aircrafts. Hal Jordan
1377
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.300
used to be a pilot for her. They fell in love.
1378
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:34.409
One thing led to another. He became Green Lantern, she
1379
01:16:34.449 --> 01:16:38.569
became Star Sapphire, and the rest is history, like she says.
1380
01:16:39.770 --> 01:16:43.270
I'm a bit, like, miffed that we didn't get to
1381
01:16:43.970 --> 01:16:46.850
see any sort of flashbacks between them. Maybe we do
1382
01:16:47.060 --> 01:16:53.220
in the next two episodes. Who knows? The eulogy, though.
1383
01:16:54.340 --> 01:16:57.739
Can we talk about the eulogy? TJ, I sent you
1384
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:01.800
an image earlier. I don't know if you are able
1385
01:17:01.899 --> 01:17:04.460
to to bring it up for a second.
1386
01:17:07.189 --> 01:17:08.899
I'll try and send it to myself to do it.
1387
01:17:09.310 --> 01:17:12.289
I don't have WhatsApp on this computer, but keep talking
1388
01:17:12.350 --> 01:17:13.930
and I'll make it work. Oh, good.
1389
01:17:14.010 --> 01:17:19.939
So he's speaking in this eulogy like the entire funeral
1390
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:22.359
is going to be full. It's going to be full
1391
01:17:22.659 --> 01:17:30.020
of everybody that he's worked with, presidents and aliens, humans, heroes,
1392
01:17:31.149 --> 01:17:33.750
And obviously there were only two people over there. It
1393
01:17:33.770 --> 01:17:36.770
was Carol Farris and it was Sheriff Kane along with
1394
01:17:36.810 --> 01:17:45.500
John Stewart. That was heartbreaking because we know everything that
1395
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:50.920
Hal Jordan has done over the past 30 odd years,
1396
01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:55.890
however many years he was a Green Lantern. And just
1397
01:17:55.909 --> 01:18:01.449
to see how he's reputation has sort of faded over time.
1398
01:18:01.470 --> 01:18:05.909
If this had happened back in 2006, and I think
1399
01:18:05.970 --> 01:18:08.890
that's the importance of that hologram as well. You could
1400
01:18:08.930 --> 01:18:12.550
see that his personality back then was so much better
1401
01:18:12.590 --> 01:18:17.350
than what it is in 2016. People probably still liked
1402
01:18:17.369 --> 01:18:19.949
him so much more back then. People still had respect
1403
01:18:19.970 --> 01:18:23.289
for him. More people would have probably attended that funeral,
1404
01:18:23.350 --> 01:18:25.670
but now it's just like, we don't have nothing. We
1405
01:18:25.689 --> 01:18:27.510
want to have nothing to do with this guy. Um,
1406
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.619
At school, he died. We'll mourn him from a distance.
1407
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:41.350
That final line, though, I hope I mattered. Dude. Brother. Oh, brother.
1408
01:18:42.369 --> 01:18:43.649
Absolute gut punch.
1409
01:18:44.010 --> 01:18:45.850
That's the one I was going to bring up, too,
1410
01:18:45.930 --> 01:18:47.369
of like, damn.
1411
01:18:48.989 --> 01:18:51.430
That I did in the show. cooked so hard. I
1412
01:18:54.409 --> 01:18:58.079
really felt so bad for Hal Jordan. We speak about
1413
01:18:59.100 --> 01:19:02.800
how he's become this, he doesn't give a fuck about
1414
01:19:02.899 --> 01:19:05.859
anybody else but himself. And yeah, this is the picture
1415
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.399
that I was speaking about. So This was from, I
1416
01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:13.899
think it was 1995, the issue where Hal Jordan died.
1417
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:18.010
I think it was called, the arc was called Punital
1418
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:21.649
for a Hero. I think that's the name of it.
1419
01:19:22.949 --> 01:19:26.510
And I think that eulogy, when the writers were writing
1420
01:19:26.529 --> 01:19:29.729
that eulogy, they wrote it with this really panel in mind.
1421
01:19:29.750 --> 01:19:33.369
I think that they looked at this panel and they
1422
01:19:33.409 --> 01:19:36.390
were like, we are going to write this eulogy based
1423
01:19:36.489 --> 01:19:39.789
on this. And if you read that, if you go
1424
01:19:39.850 --> 01:19:42.710
back to watch that scene again, and you look at
1425
01:19:42.770 --> 01:19:45.890
this panel while you're watching that scene, it sort of
1426
01:19:45.970 --> 01:19:48.829
lines up quite amazingly.
1427
01:19:49.529 --> 01:19:53.750
You know who's not there? Look who's not there.
1428
01:19:54.510 --> 01:19:55.949
Batman?
1429
01:19:55.989 --> 01:19:57.670
Yeah, him too, but I was going to say Green
1430
01:19:57.729 --> 01:20:03.909
Arrow not there. Crazy. Crazy. That's what I see. Yep.
1431
01:20:04.909 --> 01:20:15.880
Oliver and Bruce were out investigating. Nah. Didn't Ollie die
1432
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.000
in this time period? Like this time frame too?
1433
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:23.770
I think Oliver Queen might have died.
1434
01:20:26.430 --> 01:20:27.510
Who's the guy standing there?
1435
01:20:27.529 --> 01:20:30.109
Yeah, that's Kyle.
1436
01:20:30.710 --> 01:20:32.729
Yeah. That's Kyle, yeah.
1437
01:20:33.250 --> 01:20:34.079
Kyle got....
1438
01:20:37.140 --> 01:20:40.939
Guy is there, too, crying. Who's the girl between John
1439
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.460
and Guy, though?
1440
01:20:43.500 --> 01:20:46.479
What's the blonde lady? What's her name? Everybody thinks that's
1441
01:20:46.500 --> 01:20:47.859
what's her name from the show, too.
1442
01:20:47.899 --> 01:20:48.600
Is that Maggie?
1443
01:20:48.619 --> 01:20:50.239
Yeah, it's not Maggie.
1444
01:20:50.659 --> 01:20:51.520
Is that Maggie?
1445
01:20:51.550 --> 01:20:54.750
Oh, is it Arisia?
1446
01:20:54.869 --> 01:20:56.350
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1447
01:20:57.050 --> 01:21:00.810
Can we just retcon this actress to also be Arisia? Like,
1448
01:21:00.850 --> 01:21:01.430
that'd be cool.
1449
01:21:01.829 --> 01:21:01.949
Sure.
1450
01:21:02.380 --> 01:21:06.640
For those who are, you know, who are just looking
1451
01:21:06.659 --> 01:21:08.960
for a little bit of additional context, you've never read
1452
01:21:08.979 --> 01:21:12.739
a comic before. Not that this is a good one-for-one
1453
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:16.920
comparison by any means, but Carol Ferris, also who Blake
1454
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:20.090
Lively played in the original Green Lantern movie, like that
1455
01:21:20.149 --> 01:21:24.310
is who that character was supposed to be. And I agree.
1456
01:21:24.430 --> 01:21:27.789
I totally think to AF's earlier point, that's without a
1457
01:21:27.970 --> 01:21:31.489
doubt the rich guy that he got the mansion from.
1458
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.619
was probably her dad and there was probably more context
1459
01:21:35.649 --> 01:21:38.890
to context of who her character was at some point
1460
01:21:39.029 --> 01:21:42.050
in this series and it got cut there was probably
1461
01:21:42.069 --> 01:21:45.760
some connection between her dad the rich guy who gave
1462
01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:49.380
him the house and this is carol ferris weaved in
1463
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:52.119
at some point that somebody went man this isn't really
1464
01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:54.699
relevant to the story we're telling let's get rid of Okay.
1465
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:56.619
Well, the reason I brought it up, I want to
1466
01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:59.020
know is, how do you feel, AF? Like, what about
1467
01:21:59.060 --> 01:22:03.159
Star Sapphire, man? What's going on? Or the Sapphire Corpse,
1468
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:04.880
or the Love Corpse, if you will.
1469
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.350
Yeah, when you just popped off, we spoke a little
1470
01:22:11.390 --> 01:22:15.609
bit about that, but from my opinion, I don't think
1471
01:22:15.649 --> 01:22:20.229
that we are going to see the Sapphire Corpse anytime soon,
1472
01:22:20.750 --> 01:22:23.189
maybe in the future of the DCU. I just feel
1473
01:22:23.210 --> 01:22:28.979
like they... They needed somebody in Hal's history or in
1474
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:34.100
Hal's past to come back for his funeral. And they
1475
01:22:34.140 --> 01:22:39.489
probably thought that bringing back Carol Farris for that would
1476
01:22:40.350 --> 01:22:44.609
be the best option. And that's why she came back.
1477
01:22:44.649 --> 01:22:50.060
She had a few lines to speak. She wasn't really
1478
01:22:50.109 --> 01:22:54.159
shown at the funeral. She was shown from afar when.
1479
01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:57.840
John was reading the first couple of lines of that eulogy,
1480
01:22:58.300 --> 01:23:00.060
and it sounded like there would be a lot of
1481
01:23:00.090 --> 01:23:02.750
people in, and the camera panned out to show there
1482
01:23:02.770 --> 01:23:05.609
were only three people at the funeral. But then after that,
1483
01:23:05.649 --> 01:23:08.369
you don't really see her again. You only saw her.
1484
01:23:08.270 --> 01:23:12.149
From that large band. That's what I'm saying. What do
1485
01:23:12.170 --> 01:23:15.949
you think about not her being Star Sapphire and the corpse,
1486
01:23:15.989 --> 01:23:19.260
but how do we get them now? How do you
1487
01:23:19.300 --> 01:23:23.039
even approach that with her being gone? She's the main one.
1488
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:28.949
I doubt it's ever approached. It's a deep cut that'll
1489
01:23:28.970 --> 01:23:29.670
never get cut.
1490
01:23:29.949 --> 01:23:31.850
That's not a deep cut. I feel like if you're
1491
01:23:31.869 --> 01:23:36.989
doing Lanterns or any Lanterns project, you have all of
1492
01:23:37.109 --> 01:23:39.899
the corpse. You're going to have to have all of them.
1493
01:23:39.979 --> 01:23:43.260
I don't think we ever see all of them. I
1494
01:23:43.300 --> 01:23:45.399
bet we never go beyond yellow and maybe red. I
1495
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:47.829
bet we never go beyond yellow and red.
1496
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:49.810
I don't know if I like that. I think we
1497
01:23:49.819 --> 01:23:52.869
will see them if the DCU is fleshed out to
1498
01:23:53.979 --> 01:23:57.239
in the way that James Gunn wants it to. He
1499
01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:00.090
has full carte blanche about doing everything and anything that
1500
01:24:00.100 --> 01:24:04.149
he wants to do. I think that he, there will
1501
01:24:04.189 --> 01:24:07.750
be a way. If Lanterns gets another season, if the
1502
01:24:07.789 --> 01:24:11.430
Lanterns movie gets made, there is so much lore that
1503
01:24:11.449 --> 01:24:14.869
can be expanded in those projects. So I don't see
1504
01:24:15.189 --> 01:24:19.829
a future for the DCU where the Sapphire Force can't be.
1505
01:24:20.670 --> 01:24:23.840
You have to have the spectrum. My question basically is...
1506
01:24:23.829 --> 01:24:25.890
I just don't think we're.
1507
01:24:25.489 --> 01:24:27.329
Going to go that deep into Green Lantern lore.
1508
01:24:27.430 --> 01:24:29.250
I think Green Lantern is going to be an event
1509
01:24:29.310 --> 01:24:30.409
character going forward.
1510
01:24:30.970 --> 01:24:33.510
I don't think we're necessarily going to get all of
1511
01:24:33.569 --> 01:24:36.680
these corners of his universe. I.
1512
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:42.199
I hope we get all of these because they're setting
1513
01:24:42.300 --> 01:24:44.640
up a lot of things. I definitely think we get
1514
01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:50.399
yellow and red. I think getting... Moving forward without blue,
1515
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:53.380
without hope, would be a waste. And if you're going
1516
01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:55.640
to add hope, then you need to add avarice. And
1517
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:57.699
if you have avarice, you need to have love. And
1518
01:24:57.720 --> 01:24:59.539
if you have love, you need to have death.
1519
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:01.479
Why do you guys.
1520
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:02.979
Feel like that red is going to be a thing?
1521
01:25:03.510 --> 01:25:06.510
What have we seen in this series that would indicate
1522
01:25:06.630 --> 01:25:07.489
red would be a thing?
1523
01:25:08.329 --> 01:25:12.270
For me, it's just... It's the easiest one to completely
1524
01:25:12.310 --> 01:25:15.310
understand beyond fear. And you would have two.
1525
01:25:16.149 --> 01:25:18.560
Also just the most natural foe to most.
1526
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:18.850
Yeah.
1527
01:25:18.909 --> 01:25:21.579
Most naturally evil foe to green.
1528
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:23.039
Yeah.
1529
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:27.319
Like there's fear and there's rage and, you know, willpower
1530
01:25:27.939 --> 01:25:33.250
is more versus fear. But I think for the general audience,
1531
01:25:33.430 --> 01:25:36.609
the rage is something that people can completely understand.
1532
01:25:36.630 --> 01:25:39.829
So is love though.
1533
01:25:41.170 --> 01:25:42.770
That's why I say.
1534
01:25:42.850 --> 01:25:44.869
But I don't think that's necessary.
1535
01:25:45.069 --> 01:25:48.409
That's an antagonist trope. You can 100% do an antagonist
1536
01:25:48.449 --> 01:25:49.270
through a love trope.
1537
01:25:49.829 --> 01:25:53.460
I don't think it's as natural. Yes, you could do anything.
1538
01:25:53.520 --> 01:26:00.680
I don't think it's as natural as an opposition, though.
1539
01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.359
Love should not be a villain. That's my approach.
1540
01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:04.359
That's how I feel, too.
1541
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:08.689
That's where I'm at. I totally understand the version that
1542
01:26:08.710 --> 01:26:10.949
you're thinking of, but I'm also thinking of the version
1543
01:26:10.989 --> 01:26:16.689
where they team up together as basically love and willpower
1544
01:26:16.869 --> 01:26:19.810
and they go do some cool space stuff. I don't
1545
01:26:19.829 --> 01:26:21.989
remember the art. I think it was after Geoff Johns.
1546
01:26:22.949 --> 01:26:24.590
I do have a quick, I have two things.
1547
01:26:24.789 --> 01:26:27.829
Just on that point, I think there is a world
1548
01:26:28.409 --> 01:26:32.880
where we get all of the different Lantern Chorus fleshed out.
1549
01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:35.460
I don't think that's this world. I don't think that's
1550
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:37.310
what we're going to be getting. I hope there's a
1551
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:39.310
season two of this. It has done so well that
1552
01:26:39.409 --> 01:26:42.090
even if they weren't originally planning on it, they're going
1553
01:26:42.109 --> 01:26:45.189
to have to think about it very strongly now because
1554
01:26:45.229 --> 01:26:47.949
of how good this show has been and how well
1555
01:26:47.989 --> 01:26:52.699
it has performed. But I don't see a situation that
1556
01:26:54.399 --> 01:27:00.300
Jon Stewart becomes the storytelling focal point of the DCU.
1557
01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:03.560
And I just, I think you would need that to
1558
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:05.149
go into all the different lantern cores.
1559
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:08.189
I don't think you need them to be.
1560
01:27:08.270 --> 01:27:13.670
I don't think you would need. I concur because the MCU,
1561
01:27:15.090 --> 01:27:18.649
look at how much of a focal point the guardians
1562
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:22.659
became when they had their own little franchise on the side.
1563
01:27:24.220 --> 01:27:27.199
I think lanterns could do the same thing, especially because
1564
01:27:27.260 --> 01:27:31.020
it's very similar. It's cosmic based. Um, that's just my
1565
01:27:31.140 --> 01:27:33.600
personal opinion. Now, if you want to talk about Thor
1566
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:36.159
and how all of his fucking people die, that's a
1567
01:27:36.189 --> 01:27:38.970
whole different four hour rant that I have lined up.
1568
01:27:39.710 --> 01:27:42.670
Um, I guess like, yeah, I would love if we
1569
01:27:42.689 --> 01:27:45.170
get a lanterns trilogy. I just, I, if we get
1570
01:27:45.189 --> 01:27:48.109
a John Stewart green lantern trilogy, I just, that feels
1571
01:27:48.529 --> 01:27:50.329
very far away at this point.
1572
01:27:51.029 --> 01:27:53.470
That'd be sweet. Um, right.
1573
01:27:53.510 --> 01:27:55.229
Like we still don't know if we can get Batman yet.
1574
01:27:55.289 --> 01:27:55.869
You know what I mean?
1575
01:27:55.909 --> 01:27:59.399
Like I'm, I'm not, Ready to say a trilogy is
1576
01:27:59.420 --> 01:28:01.579
going to happen with anybody until we get one movie
1577
01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:05.789
out there. That's fair. Smart man. In development, what does
1578
01:28:05.810 --> 01:28:06.250
that mean?
1579
01:28:06.430 --> 01:28:06.729
Nothing.
1580
01:28:07.409 --> 01:28:10.710
I got three things on Carol and the Star Sapphires.
1581
01:28:11.970 --> 01:28:15.189
First is a question. How do the Star Sapphire, like
1582
01:28:15.449 --> 01:28:17.909
the Love Corps, however you call them, their name changes
1583
01:28:17.949 --> 01:28:20.770
every five weeks, it feels like. How do they, what
1584
01:28:20.810 --> 01:28:24.270
is their lore on creation? Because I'm unawares.
1585
01:28:24.890 --> 01:28:28.899
I don't know. I know how she becomes... Star Sapphire.
1586
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:30.020
She starts as his villain.
1587
01:28:31.260 --> 01:28:32.000
Roger, roger.
1588
01:28:32.140 --> 01:28:36.729
Alright, so, moving from there, what's to say it's this
1589
01:28:36.829 --> 01:28:38.289
Carol Farris that does it?
1590
01:28:39.649 --> 01:28:39.970
What do you mean?
1591
01:28:40.149 --> 01:28:43.069
Has a daughter she's old enough to have a granddaughter
1592
01:28:43.949 --> 01:28:47.800
we could do a a loose adaptation in some form
1593
01:28:47.819 --> 01:28:52.159
or fashion obviously not being the villain to uh what's
1594
01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:55.479
uh how jordan it would be a change that is
1595
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:59.979
a possibility but There's a third option, and that's my
1596
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:02.720
third point. I don't think this is the only time
1597
01:29:02.739 --> 01:29:09.529
we see Carol Farris. And I'm questioning if we're going
1598
01:29:09.550 --> 01:29:12.850
to see her in a flashback to the last time
1599
01:29:12.890 --> 01:29:14.630
Half of Jordan was close to somebody.
1600
01:29:16.229 --> 01:29:18.210
Because of his flashback episode?
1601
01:29:18.689 --> 01:29:21.149
Because of the flashback. I don't think it's a full
1602
01:29:21.180 --> 01:29:24.819
flashback episode. I think it's just flashbacks within an episode.
1603
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:29.590
Has anyone watched the trailer for next week? Nope. It's
1604
01:29:29.630 --> 01:29:32.100
a mindfuck. I can't figure out what the hell's happening
1605
01:29:32.140 --> 01:29:36.020
in half of it. Good. It looks like a mental test.
1606
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:38.720
Let me put it like that. But I found out
1607
01:29:38.779 --> 01:29:43.619
listening to the Lanterns podcast, the official Lanterns podcast, that
1608
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:47.619
next week's episode is titled, oh God, what is the,
1609
01:29:48.420 --> 01:29:53.439
the Jordan boys image, something like that. Something about the
1610
01:29:53.500 --> 01:29:56.359
Jordan boys and the history of the Jordan boys is
1611
01:29:56.399 --> 01:29:59.090
like the vibe of the name. So it's like, oh,
1612
01:29:59.149 --> 01:30:01.069
that's where we're going to be getting flashbacks. And it
1613
01:30:01.289 --> 01:30:03.409
feels like Hallow Graham is going to be the one
1614
01:30:03.609 --> 01:30:07.310
he's going to be reminiscing about life. Right. And he's
1615
01:30:07.340 --> 01:30:11.640
going to give John some backstory because, you know, he's
1616
01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:14.340
the fun version of how he's the one who likes
1617
01:30:15.399 --> 01:30:17.359
John and is willing to say it out loud. And
1618
01:30:17.380 --> 01:30:20.220
I think that's where we might see more of Carol
1619
01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:26.239
Ferris in a younger version. Who's to say she wasn't already?
1620
01:30:27.350 --> 01:30:31.659
a star sapphire and it was that was already created
1621
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:33.560
in the past and i.
1622
01:30:33.739 --> 01:30:36.060
Think that she would have alluded to something like that
1623
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:37.899
in this episode well she.
1624
01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:41.680
Said and you couldn't confidential we have history.
1625
01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:43.000
She said yeah she said we have history i mean
1626
01:30:43.060 --> 01:30:45.680
and that's and that's that's subtle enough to mean a
1627
01:30:45.699 --> 01:30:49.520
bunch of shit you know so so i could see.
1628
01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:51.590
That too of just like a conversation where john goes
1629
01:30:51.619 --> 01:30:53.590
like so i met carol you gonna tell me about
1630
01:30:53.649 --> 01:30:57.560
her and younger hal being like oh carol The one
1631
01:30:57.579 --> 01:30:59.600
that got away, she was the best. And like, we
1632
01:30:59.619 --> 01:31:00.039
get something on it.
1633
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:01.710
She didn't try to kill me or something like that.
1634
01:31:01.729 --> 01:31:04.029
Just something simple like that. Exactly. Yeah.
1635
01:31:04.069 --> 01:31:04.930
It's easy. I'm good with that.
1636
01:31:04.989 --> 01:31:06.449
I'm good with that.
1637
01:31:06.510 --> 01:31:09.850
You need, but, but, but again, I say that cause
1638
01:31:09.890 --> 01:31:12.630
you need there. Like if you're going to, we've been
1639
01:31:12.670 --> 01:31:16.279
talking through this whole journey about Green Lantern lore and
1640
01:31:16.539 --> 01:31:20.260
how we thought Anton was freaking atrocities, right? You can't,
1641
01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:23.039
you can't have that. And then not when we do
1642
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:26.189
get an Easter egg, that's a very pivotal character. We
1643
01:31:26.229 --> 01:31:29.149
can't minimize it and say, oh, well, it doesn't, like, nah,
1644
01:31:29.210 --> 01:31:35.180
that's needed. If she exists, the stars, like the sapphire cores,
1645
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:38.800
also have to exist in some way, shape, or form,
1646
01:31:38.819 --> 01:31:41.899
whether it's current or future.
1647
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:44.899
Well, I mean, they met on Earth. They met before
1648
01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:46.819
she was on the star sapphire core. So it's like
1649
01:31:46.859 --> 01:31:49.279
they just don't, that doesn't necessarily have to be true.
1650
01:31:49.819 --> 01:31:51.020
But the other thing I was going to say is
1651
01:31:51.100 --> 01:31:54.810
if we do see more of her, In this version,
1652
01:31:54.859 --> 01:31:57.050
she could have just never became that. We don't know
1653
01:31:57.109 --> 01:31:57.470
for sure.
1654
01:31:58.489 --> 01:32:03.109
But my point was that I don't think if we
1655
01:32:03.149 --> 01:32:05.270
do get more, I think it'll be in that situation
1656
01:32:05.289 --> 01:32:07.630
like you and Thomas just said, where it's something that
1657
01:32:07.670 --> 01:32:08.510
has already happened.
1658
01:32:08.970 --> 01:32:11.170
My point was that I don't see any reason why
1659
01:32:11.229 --> 01:32:14.050
they would explore Carol Ferris as a main character going
1660
01:32:14.109 --> 01:32:15.829
forward without Hal.
1661
01:32:16.909 --> 01:32:18.250
I agree with that.
1662
01:32:18.270 --> 01:32:20.210
So if they're doing a John story, I don't see
1663
01:32:20.229 --> 01:32:26.680
why they would continue her her character going forward like
1664
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:30.560
that just seems like an avenue of storytelling that i
1665
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:33.220
don't think they're they're going towards was was what i
1666
01:32:33.260 --> 01:32:35.100
was trying to say but is there anything else from
1667
01:32:35.140 --> 01:32:37.760
this episode we want to hit where john digs him
1668
01:32:37.859 --> 01:32:39.600
i love john digging him up and putting on the
1669
01:32:39.659 --> 01:32:43.130
ring him i mean that was like i think like
1670
01:32:43.630 --> 01:32:46.909
him playing guy for a fiddle and then coming away
1671
01:32:47.029 --> 01:32:49.630
getting that ring we did all this speculation of like
1672
01:32:50.130 --> 01:32:52.170
where the rings are going to go, where could they come?
1673
01:32:52.250 --> 01:32:54.949
Yes. Hold on. Hold on. I want to take my
1674
01:32:55.029 --> 01:32:57.880
victory lap because my whole point. You don't have a
1675
01:32:57.939 --> 01:33:00.220
victory lap because we were all right that it didn't
1676
01:33:00.260 --> 01:33:04.420
fucking matter, Thomas. No, because I was very on the
1677
01:33:04.460 --> 01:33:08.300
point that Guy does not have Hal's actual physical ring.
1678
01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:10.310
And you said, it doesn't matter. I said, it does matter.
1679
01:33:11.029 --> 01:33:11.489
I was right.
1680
01:33:11.890 --> 01:33:14.989
But why did it matter? You were arguing something that
1681
01:33:15.069 --> 01:33:16.609
no one was arguing against.
1682
01:33:17.579 --> 01:33:19.119
That's not true. Go back and listen.
1683
01:33:19.189 --> 01:33:22.010
You just didn't get the point that we were making.
1684
01:33:22.109 --> 01:33:25.329
Because you didn't communicate that, TJ.
1685
01:33:27.850 --> 01:33:31.770
The point was not what physical ring Guy would be wearing.
1686
01:33:31.909 --> 01:33:35.810
It was that Guy would become Green Lantern immediately after
1687
01:33:35.890 --> 01:33:39.149
John said no. We weren't talking about the physical rings.
1688
01:33:39.310 --> 01:33:42.449
No, the point is that Tom King lied. So this
1689
01:33:42.890 --> 01:33:45.430
is the reason that got everybody into this situation.
1690
01:33:45.470 --> 01:33:46.449
Exactly.
1691
01:33:46.470 --> 01:33:48.329
You need to take.
1692
01:33:48.029 --> 01:33:51.210
Your anger to Tom King, not me, Thomas.
1693
01:33:51.289 --> 01:33:53.250
Hold on, hold on. But to add on to that,
1694
01:33:53.289 --> 01:33:54.970
which is why I be telling TJ, I'm like, when
1695
01:33:55.050 --> 01:33:58.520
creators say things, I don't just listen. I look and
1696
01:33:58.569 --> 01:34:02.239
watch this shit for myself because, and I bring this
1697
01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:04.460
back because of the prestige, and I will never live
1698
01:34:04.500 --> 01:34:07.220
this down again. They told me my interpretation of the
1699
01:34:07.260 --> 01:34:10.859
prestige was wrong because Christopher Nolan said that.
1700
01:34:10.899 --> 01:34:16.319
You guys are doing the same damn thing. Nobody said that. Damn,
1701
01:34:16.380 --> 01:34:18.460
I didn't say your interpretation was wrong.
1702
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:21.619
I said it's not the only one and it's okay
1703
01:34:21.659 --> 01:34:23.220
for people to have different ones.
1704
01:34:23.619 --> 01:34:26.279
And Jam was like, no, if it's opinions different than mine,
1705
01:34:26.340 --> 01:34:27.050
they're wrong.
1706
01:34:27.090 --> 01:34:29.659
That's not what I said. See, and that's exactly it.
1707
01:34:29.729 --> 01:34:31.949
That's exactly it. TCR, I'm with you.
1708
01:34:33.869 --> 01:34:38.590
Yeah, because I was, the point where our miscommunication came
1709
01:34:38.649 --> 01:34:42.899
from was the grammatical choice of syntax and words that
1710
01:34:42.939 --> 01:34:47.000
you chose to say Guy Gardner's getting Hal Jordan's ring.
1711
01:34:47.020 --> 01:34:48.699
And I was like, he's not getting Hal Jordan's ring.
1712
01:34:48.739 --> 01:34:50.800
Hal Jordan's ring is going to be separate from Guy
1713
01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:54.149
Gardner's ring because they're not the same physical thing.
1714
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:55.409
Fuck you, Tom King.
1715
01:34:55.449 --> 01:34:57.649
Fuck you, Tom King.
1716
01:34:57.670 --> 01:34:59.949
No one was arguing against you, Thomas.
1717
01:35:00.590 --> 01:35:01.270
Yeah, I do.
1718
01:35:01.310 --> 01:35:03.229
I actually really like Tom King's work for what it's worth.
1719
01:35:04.590 --> 01:35:05.930
Too bad he's not going to be back on season
1720
01:35:05.949 --> 01:35:07.909
two of Lanterns. Him or Lindelof. Or him.
1721
01:35:08.449 --> 01:35:08.850
Yeah.
1722
01:35:09.909 --> 01:35:12.909
That we know of. That's what I'm saying. There wasn't
1723
01:35:12.970 --> 01:35:15.819
a season two planned. And so that's why, as of
1724
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:18.960
right now, they're not signed on to do anything. Because
1725
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:20.180
there wasn't that.
1726
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:24.640
They're not signed on for Lanterns. They're signed on for
1727
01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:26.220
other things at this moment.
1728
01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:29.869
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Which means if they were to do
1729
01:35:29.930 --> 01:35:33.560
a season two right away, they wouldn't, scheduling-wise, be able
1730
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:35.909
to be on. But, like, there is no season two
1731
01:35:35.949 --> 01:35:36.979
scheduled at this point.
1732
01:35:37.779 --> 01:35:38.460
No, no, there's not.
1733
01:35:38.500 --> 01:35:42.760
But I feel like HBO would want to get the
1734
01:35:42.779 --> 01:35:46.020
ball rolling because they've seen how the pit is successful
1735
01:35:46.659 --> 01:35:50.100
and how it's differing from this two-, three-, four-year gap
1736
01:35:50.140 --> 01:35:56.609
that's fallen. Like, HBO is an old, old-style... Television. We
1737
01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:57.859
get it done.
1738
01:35:57.899 --> 01:36:00.060
They are television, if we're being real.
1739
01:36:00.460 --> 01:36:02.500
They want every year product.
1740
01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:04.579
And they're doing that, I think. Aren't they doing that
1741
01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:06.479
with A Night of the Seven Kingdoms? Doesn't it have
1742
01:36:06.500 --> 01:36:08.470
a season two coming next year, 2027?
1743
01:36:08.470 --> 01:36:12.630
Yeah, so most things now are reverting back to that style.
1744
01:36:12.689 --> 01:36:14.750
The reason why it became the norm is because we
1745
01:36:14.789 --> 01:36:17.529
had a pandemic followed by a strike. And so it
1746
01:36:17.609 --> 01:36:23.060
just kind of became a social norm. But where this one... Yeah,
1747
01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:25.859
and big budget stuff like Thrones. You're absolutely right. And
1748
01:36:25.899 --> 01:36:29.619
big budget stuff like Thrones. The difference between this one
1749
01:36:29.659 --> 01:36:33.439
is like this is a show that existed pre-DCU. And
1750
01:36:33.550 --> 01:36:35.270
so it's kind of one of those things that like
1751
01:36:35.850 --> 01:36:38.970
it was always a contained project until all of a sudden,
1752
01:36:39.170 --> 01:36:41.560
oh shit, everybody loves this. Everybody's watching it.
1753
01:36:42.289 --> 01:36:45.430
And so now it's like their choices are you do
1754
01:36:45.489 --> 01:36:49.550
a season two quickly without King and Lindelof or you
1755
01:36:49.590 --> 01:36:50.289
wait a long time.
1756
01:36:50.329 --> 01:36:51.810
And it looks like if they are going to, it'll
1757
01:36:51.829 --> 01:36:52.390
be the quick one.
1758
01:36:53.090 --> 01:36:57.680
It's still kind of the same like plan though, because
1759
01:36:57.770 --> 01:36:59.880
it was a contained story, but it was a part
1760
01:36:59.899 --> 01:37:02.380
of the DCEU and they were going to go off
1761
01:37:02.460 --> 01:37:05.859
and become like going to do the justice league stuff there.
1762
01:37:06.500 --> 01:37:08.399
So they're doing the same thing now. It's just a
1763
01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:10.579
part of the DCU, but I, you are, you are,
1764
01:37:10.659 --> 01:37:13.279
you are right. Like it really depends on if they
1765
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:15.279
want to come back and it doesn't necessarily mean they
1766
01:37:15.300 --> 01:37:19.380
have to tell the same, uh, like, uh, talk about
1767
01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:23.039
the same characters because, uh, I think it was Chris Mundy.
1768
01:37:23.060 --> 01:37:25.640
He already came out and said, like, if we do
1769
01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:28.979
a season two, he would want to focus on separate characters. Like,
1770
01:37:29.010 --> 01:37:31.470
he wouldn't want to return back to these exact characters.
1771
01:37:32.729 --> 01:37:35.649
And that is where Maggie could be Arisia. I don't
1772
01:37:35.670 --> 01:37:37.529
think she is. I got to be very real. I
1773
01:37:37.569 --> 01:37:41.289
don't think she is. Who? Maggie, the blonde hair, the
1774
01:37:41.350 --> 01:37:42.390
reparations bitch.
1775
01:37:42.670 --> 01:37:43.130
Oh, whoa.
1776
01:37:43.369 --> 01:37:44.489
Damn, that was aggressive.
1777
01:37:44.510 --> 01:37:45.710
Very aggressive.
1778
01:37:46.310 --> 01:37:46.890
My bad.
1779
01:37:47.100 --> 01:37:50.369
My bad. You can't be saying that shit. You know
1780
01:37:50.390 --> 01:37:50.810
what I'm saying?
1781
01:37:50.829 --> 01:37:52.289
She was racist, so we'll allow it.
1782
01:37:52.710 --> 01:37:55.609
I'm saying that to me and the character, Maggie.
1783
01:37:55.630 --> 01:37:58.989
Both her and me. No saying that anymore.
1784
01:37:59.590 --> 01:38:02.810
It could be Simon and Jessica too, though. That pairing
1785
01:38:02.869 --> 01:38:03.510
right there is.
1786
01:38:04.069 --> 01:38:05.869
That would be sick. That would be sick. It would
1787
01:38:05.909 --> 01:38:08.670
just be fun to have non-humans, but that would raise
1788
01:38:08.689 --> 01:38:09.909
the budget and stuff of that nature.
1789
01:38:10.130 --> 01:38:10.590
I think.
1790
01:38:11.590 --> 01:38:14.710
I'm going to get to the future in a second.
1791
01:38:14.989 --> 01:38:15.170
The.
1792
01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:21.180
John, I think, is going to pay those quote unquote
1793
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:24.430
reparations when he realizes that it was her in the
1794
01:38:24.470 --> 01:38:28.649
parking lot and that she and her family owned the motel.
1795
01:38:28.670 --> 01:38:29.939
And her dad.
1796
01:38:30.130 --> 01:38:35.850
An architect so he's gonna rebuild Rushville anyway So that's how...
1797
01:38:35.899 --> 01:38:38.220
He's going to fix the problems that he created. That's
1798
01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:40.039
who Jon is as a character. He's like, you know what?
1799
01:38:40.220 --> 01:38:43.180
I got this. So he's going to rebuild Rushville. That's
1800
01:38:43.239 --> 01:38:46.159
probably going to allow more defense contracts because it's like, oh, okay,
1801
01:38:46.180 --> 01:38:48.579
you're going back and fixing problems. We kind of need that. Wow,
1802
01:38:48.619 --> 01:38:52.579
you did great. We're going to build underground shelters. Fuck it, America. Also,
1803
01:38:52.619 --> 01:38:54.500
he's probably going to steal the idea from a Manhunter.
1804
01:38:54.640 --> 01:38:58.140
Oh, yeah, he's done with that. I don't think he's
1805
01:38:58.180 --> 01:38:59.279
going back to that life now.
1806
01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:04.779
I don't know... See, the thing is, you can both
1807
01:39:04.859 --> 01:39:07.560
be a hero and still have a backup plan for
1808
01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:08.680
saving people.
1809
01:39:08.699 --> 01:39:12.060
Yeah, and that's a Jon thing. That's a Jon-type thing.
1810
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:14.779
I do feel like he'll probably build, since he didn't
1811
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:17.510
get the contract from the Colonel, he'll probably build the
1812
01:39:17.590 --> 01:39:18.359
arcs in Rushville.
1813
01:39:18.949 --> 01:39:19.189
Yeah.
1814
01:39:19.489 --> 01:39:20.810
That's what MTF said as well.
1815
01:39:21.750 --> 01:39:24.289
Oh, yeah, yeah. Shout out to MTF. Yeah, I feel
1816
01:39:24.310 --> 01:39:25.710
like it'll just be something simple like that.
1817
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:31.119
I really like this Maggie thing because it adds a,
1818
01:39:31.420 --> 01:39:33.720
what is the word? We're on a time code with them.
1819
01:39:33.939 --> 01:39:34.310
What is it?
1820
01:39:34.659 --> 01:39:35.100
A clock.
1821
01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:37.500
It adds a clock to this story. Like you have
1822
01:39:37.539 --> 01:39:41.109
until midnight tomorrow, or I'm telling the sheriff, which then
1823
01:39:41.130 --> 01:39:43.250
just adds like weight and all of these other things.
1824
01:39:43.710 --> 01:39:46.890
And so he's got about what, by the time he
1825
01:39:46.970 --> 01:39:51.010
gets the ring about 24 hours or so to move
1826
01:39:51.130 --> 01:39:54.220
forward and figure out what the heck is going on
1827
01:39:54.619 --> 01:39:57.779
in next week's episode. They go to some weird looking place.
1828
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:00.180
It's a very similar place that we saw Sinestro in
1829
01:40:00.220 --> 01:40:03.180
another trailer being drug on. I don't want to call
1830
01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:08.199
it a gurney, but like a crazy man thing. Hannibal Lecter, Dolly,
1831
01:40:08.310 --> 01:40:10.210
if you will. So it's going to be interesting to
1832
01:40:10.250 --> 01:40:13.850
see if that's the case. He punches someone. It's framed
1833
01:40:13.890 --> 01:40:17.829
to make it look like it's frame to make it
1834
01:40:17.909 --> 01:40:23.569
look like it's hologram. slowed that beast down. They're wearing
1835
01:40:23.649 --> 01:40:27.210
a tunic. It's a Jedi is what I'm saying. It
1836
01:40:27.250 --> 01:40:31.850
could be Sinestro. It could be an alive Hal Jordan.
1837
01:40:32.529 --> 01:40:33.399
Could be a Guardian.
1838
01:40:34.100 --> 01:40:36.380
Could be a Guardian. They were too short to be
1839
01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:36.859
a Guardian.
1840
01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:38.399
And too tall to.
1841
01:40:38.380 --> 01:40:42.319
Be a Guardian. I forgot they do that, don't they? Damn,
1842
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:46.819
can't trust them. Damn shapeshifters. I learned in Star Trek VI,
1843
01:40:46.859 --> 01:40:51.529
you can't trust shapeshifters. Were you going to say that?
1844
01:40:52.369 --> 01:40:52.710
Yeah.
1845
01:40:53.550 --> 01:40:56.409
No, no, no. Let TCR complete his thought.
1846
01:40:57.630 --> 01:40:59.189
Oh, so the.
1847
01:41:01.090 --> 01:41:04.329
We have to go back to the mid-season trailer and
1848
01:41:04.369 --> 01:41:06.810
we were all talking about the hole in his arm
1849
01:41:07.789 --> 01:41:08.430
on the internet.
1850
01:41:08.529 --> 01:41:10.329
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1851
01:41:11.229 --> 01:41:16.289
In that photo, in that moment, we've all been like,
1852
01:41:16.350 --> 01:41:21.369
who's the person there? It's Noah. I will say that
1853
01:41:22.050 --> 01:41:24.069
I'll put money on it. I'm not a gambling man.
1854
01:41:24.109 --> 01:41:27.149
TJ knows. I hate betting because I always end up
1855
01:41:27.250 --> 01:41:28.229
with a rainy game.
1856
01:41:28.250 --> 01:41:30.670
Are you speaking about in the clone room?
1857
01:41:31.609 --> 01:41:32.449
In the clone room.
1858
01:41:32.609 --> 01:41:33.800
Ooh, I like that clone room.
1859
01:41:34.109 --> 01:41:39.399
Let's go. Banger name. It's definitely Noah. It's his jacket,
1860
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:42.100
his boots. You can actually see some of his belt
1861
01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:44.560
as well. And this is where I got the, oh,
1862
01:41:44.899 --> 01:41:47.279
he brings Hal Jordan back to life because he wants
1863
01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:51.560
to change things. He wants to change the image and
1864
01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:55.239
this is how we get Rebirth Jam. Turns out the
1865
01:41:55.300 --> 01:42:04.350
greatest enemy is your closest ally. Maybe we end up
1866
01:42:04.390 --> 01:42:06.729
with three lantern rings or maybe this is the Hal
1867
01:42:06.770 --> 01:42:10.529
Jordan that gets to go be with Carol Ferris in
1868
01:42:10.590 --> 01:42:10.970
the end.
1869
01:42:12.390 --> 01:42:17.090
A happy ending for Hal Jordan.
1870
01:42:17.250 --> 01:42:20.369
Listen, I lean Carol because I'd say Carrie killed him
1871
01:42:20.510 --> 01:42:22.260
and he's going to be a little upset about that.
1872
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:26.720
But also the key, the interesting part about him dying
1873
01:42:27.539 --> 01:42:30.960
is that they're like, you know, whoever it was, he
1874
01:42:31.020 --> 01:42:33.399
knew them well enough to let them get up close
1875
01:42:34.350 --> 01:42:40.369
and let it happen. And I'm like, yep. Cry me
1876
01:42:40.390 --> 01:42:40.689
a river.
1877
01:42:40.810 --> 01:42:43.390
I feel like it's either, it's probably Noah or Carrie now. Like,
1878
01:42:43.430 --> 01:42:47.859
I mean, I'm okay with that. I genuinely think, I'm
1879
01:42:47.899 --> 01:42:50.199
at a point now where I've kind of like, I
1880
01:42:50.260 --> 01:42:53.340
don't want this to be clear. I don't want, I
1881
01:42:53.380 --> 01:42:55.859
don't want this, but I'm at a point where I've
1882
01:42:55.939 --> 01:42:57.399
accepted like Hal just dead.
1883
01:42:57.930 --> 01:42:59.810
What are my two options?
1884
01:43:00.210 --> 01:43:02.250
Oh, I don't, I don't want, I don't want him
1885
01:43:02.270 --> 01:43:04.710
to be dead, but I feel like.
1886
01:43:05.649 --> 01:43:10.109
It's, I feel like the hologram, that consciousness is very important.
1887
01:43:10.869 --> 01:43:16.029
If what TCR is saying is true and they clone Hal,
1888
01:43:16.630 --> 01:43:21.329
And they take that hologram consciousness from 2006 or however
1889
01:43:22.649 --> 01:43:23.149
long ago.
1890
01:43:23.180 --> 01:43:24.840
They use the backup to put him in there?
1891
01:43:25.109 --> 01:43:29.399
And we have Al Jordan. Like, he never died. He's
1892
01:43:29.899 --> 01:43:33.939
back up and running with his old persona. Everybody likes
1893
01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.460
this version of Al. Nobody hates him.
1894
01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:39.420
Just like pre-birth.
1895
01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:40.960
Pre-parallax.
1896
01:43:41.140 --> 01:43:42.819
I think things need consequences.
1897
01:43:43.260 --> 01:43:44.800
I don't think it's going to happen because I just
1898
01:43:44.819 --> 01:43:49.600
think I just think otherwise we kind of get through
1899
01:43:49.640 --> 01:43:50.680
this with nothing.
1900
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Other than time, nothing lost.
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That's fair. That's fair. Other options for who killed how? Maggie?
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Noah?
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Carrie? Billy? Bernadette?
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We didn't even speak about that entire ambush. by the way.
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Yeah, Billy and his boys just all got fucked up
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by John. That was pretty great.
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Yeah, it was. You know why? Because there were Eenie, Meenie, Miney, Moe,
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and Billy.
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So, yeah, I don't think we said the most likely,
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or at least to me, second most likely. I would
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say number one, Noah, that he is the Manhunter. He's
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doing the same thing. He killed Hal Jordan. Number two, Sinestro.
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Sinestro was already out. I think he would be the
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second most likely to me. of who would have who
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would have killed how why do you do it with
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a bullet to.
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Make it look that's a bit on the news i
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don't feel like yes.
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But that's why we're talking most obvious ones.
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Yeah it is i don't i don't even think i
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don't sinestro doesn't even come to my mind because it
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feels more like sinestro would and especially based off their
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conversation that he would try to turn how not kill.
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Probably probably but that's kind of the question of there
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is no really like Aside from introducing a brand new
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character we haven't met yet, there aren't a lot of options.
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He does mention, I have a way to bring him back.
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Maybe he kills him to get his body to bring
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him back to life so that he can be controlled.
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Wouldn't he have had his body, though?
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No, no, no.
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He's talking about.
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No, no, no.
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He's saying that, telling Jon. So let me create a
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word picture here for you. Sinestro has a long-term plan.
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I want Hal Jordan on my side, but I cannot
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get him to join my side. So I'm going to
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kill him. And we're going to get, you know, and
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John is going to end up involved for some reason, somehow.
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But he's going to then work on getting Hal's body
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to try and rebirth him or reincarnate him and do
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it using, like you were thinking, the fear, the parallax,
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whatever it may be. And this is the start of that.
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His long-term plan is to start here and go there.
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And maybe, maybe it wasn't even Bernadette on the phone
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and it was the Guardian the whole time creating this
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circle of how this is going to work.
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I do appreciate how each thing that happens in this show,
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it'll be like somebody stubs their toe and then Thomas
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will be like, hit the blunt. And so maybe that
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toe was actually the same.
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Listen, This is why I like creating stories, man. All
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it takes is a quick, what if, and bam, Spider-Man
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is Wanda's brother. You know what I'm saying?
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So that's actually, that was a weird one.
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That was a really weird one. Jam. So many cool.
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What ifs you could do? Why would that be a thing? Jam,
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what were you going to say? And then I'll wrap
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us up.
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Oh, that I could see it being a Bernadette too,
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but like, I just don't know if there's a– maybe
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she has the– maybe the– did they have a 9mm?
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Was that a 9mm that he was shooting?
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To go back to– that's why I was also on
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the Sinestro train a little bit. There was no gun.
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There was no bullet. There was no residue.
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Yeah, but you would have– you created what, a yellow
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or– because you wouldn't have a gun. A gun. Yeah.
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What other kind of gun would leave no residue or
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no bullets? No bullet casing.
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Did they say no residue? Yeah, I don't think they
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said no residue. They even specifically say the gun goes
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in and it stops at a point because it hits
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the skull cap or the skull structure or whatever, and
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it was point blank. She doesn't say no residue, though.
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They said the only physical evidence was his broken nose
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and whether there could be blood that wasn't his. And
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then they talk about whether the gun was there, and they.
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Still know there was no gun present. No, no, no.
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That's not possible. How would they know it was a
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9mm if there was nothing? That's not... The size of what?
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They just measure a whole head? That's not how bullets
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yeah you can't you can't that's not how it works
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you would they would have to have something i don't
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think they said there's no residue or no bullet i
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think they knew that it was they just said it's
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no gun.
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But they said there's no physical evidence they did say
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that that's an other than the blood on his nose
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Why wouldn't you be able to measure the size of
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the bullet from the size of the hole?
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That's just basic measurement. That's what you do in autopsies.
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They are. That is found out in autopsies.
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They didn't actually do a proper autopsy though. True.
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They also didn't do a proper autopsy.
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She said nothing. She said 9mm point blank to the
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head Would think that he snuck up behind him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Nothing about residue. They say no gun. No, we couldn't
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find a gun on the scene to carry. That was
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all that was really said. And then, you know, what
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about his broken nose? Was there a fist fight? It's
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hard to tell.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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It was nothing about residue. Because also, gunshot residue wouldn't... Well.
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01:49:29.739 --> 01:49:31.850
Yeah, again, this is how we got into an argument
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01:49:31.890 --> 01:49:34.859
last time, Thomas. You're focusing on the wrong word. The
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words matter.
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That's how English works.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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In parts of physical evidence, there would be residue. There
2011
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would be a casing. That's what I'm saying. That is,
2012
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would be there if there were evidence to pull.
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Did they say that, TCR? You just watched it. Did
2014
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they say there's no physical evidence?
2015
01:49:55.600 --> 01:49:56.779
No, they say it's cut.
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There's no other evidence.
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There's no other evidence.
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It's a nine millimeter gunshot to the head. Front to back,
2019
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they were looking him dead in the eye, pun intended.
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No gun? No. Couldn't find a gun on the scene.
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Carrie says that. And then she asks about the broken
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nose and Bitsy's like, it's hard to tell. It could
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have been broken five minutes before he died or two
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hours after he died or two hours before he died.
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I took blood sample to send off to figure out
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if there's blood from the puncher so we can ID
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who that is. There's not, they don't need, when it
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comes to guns, TJ, as an American, in the South,
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casings and gunshot residue are two very different things.
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I know that.
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The point is, I'm saying those weren't found at the scene.
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If they were, they'd have been able to identify more.
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01:50:53.779 --> 01:50:57.279
No, but you said that they said- That's why Carrie
2034
01:50:57.340 --> 01:51:00.449
did it. But yeah, but you said that they said
2035
01:51:00.470 --> 01:51:03.350
that there was no physical evidence. They didn't say that.
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They just didn't specify that they did find that.
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01:51:06.029 --> 01:51:08.529
Okay, so they didn't say there was physical evidence. But
2038
01:51:08.569 --> 01:51:10.869
they did, though. They didn't say there wasn't.
2039
01:51:11.350 --> 01:51:12.720
They did say that there was stuff.
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That's what I'm saying, Thomas! Since we don't know for sure,
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I think it's viable that it could be Sinestro.
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Okay.
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We'll find out next week when it's Carrie.
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01:51:28.090 --> 01:51:29.800
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
2045
01:51:30.130 --> 01:51:32.609
No, no, we're not holding on. We're done. AF, where
2046
01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:34.340
can the people find you on social?
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01:51:35.409 --> 01:51:38.640
I have one more thing to say, and TCR said
2048
01:51:38.659 --> 01:51:42.359
it earlier about Eenie Meenie Minie Moe, the guys who
2049
01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:49.220
ambushed John. I didn't know that that were the names,
2050
01:51:49.319 --> 01:51:52.949
so I just Googled it really quickly. And I think, Jam,
2051
01:51:52.970 --> 01:51:55.010
you brought it up a couple of weeks ago about
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01:51:55.189 --> 01:51:56.069
the writer's.
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Room and.
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01:51:57.789 --> 01:52:01.329
Black culture and all of those things. I didn't know
2055
01:52:01.449 --> 01:52:05.659
that Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe was the old nursery rhyme
2056
01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:12.560
that originates from heavily racist, historical, anti-black, counting out slurs
2057
01:52:13.399 --> 01:52:18.630
back in the 19th century. So the fact that they
2058
01:52:18.890 --> 01:52:23.970
sort of doubled down on that in Nashville, Nebraska. Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.
2059
01:52:23.989 --> 01:52:25.850
The guys who are beating up a black guy. I
2060
01:52:27.430 --> 01:52:31.609
think the writers, they thought about that quite in detail.
2061
01:52:33.130 --> 01:52:34.909
And that's why you can't trust Maggie.
2062
01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:40.119
Every nursery rhyme, man, just has the darkest past. Yeah.
2063
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:43.300
Every single one of them are so... Not the one
2064
01:52:43.340 --> 01:52:45.560
that specifically... I remember finding out that was about the
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plague and just being like, what the fuck, man? Thomas,
2066
01:52:49.319 --> 01:52:52.979
where can people find the channel? Where can they find
2067
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you on socials?
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01:52:55.359 --> 01:53:00.180
Yeah, I'm at AF Barker 642 everywhere. I'm also at
2069
01:53:00.220 --> 01:53:03.680
That's Geeky AF on Instagram and on YouTube. Drop my
2070
01:53:03.699 --> 01:53:10.989
vision quiz, breakdown video thingy today. So if you guys
2071
01:53:11.029 --> 01:53:15.140
want some sort of backstory on that, and why I
2072
01:53:15.220 --> 01:53:18.300
think the Children's Crusade is probably being set up, then
2073
01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:19.090
go check that out.
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Thomas, how about you? Reckless Rebellion, what you guys talking about?
2075
01:53:24.109 --> 01:53:25.029
Where can the people find you?
2076
01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:33.289
Yes, you can find me everywhere. TCRochester, at T-C-R-O-C-H-E-S-T-E-R-A-C-T. You
2077
01:53:33.310 --> 01:53:40.300
can find The Rebellion everywhere you listen to podcasts. Reckless Rebellion.
2078
01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:45.899
On Twitter, we're at Reckless Rebels. R-E-C-K-L-E-S-S-R-E-B-E-L-S. Add one extra
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01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:47.640
S to the end of that, and that is where
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01:53:47.659 --> 01:53:52.869
you find us on Instagram. This week, we're doing... What
2081
01:53:52.890 --> 01:53:57.989
did Jack just text the group? Exclusive for Agents of
2082
01:53:58.010 --> 01:54:02.170
Fandom for Reckless Rebellion, we're doing... a spooky season movie
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01:54:02.189 --> 01:54:05.810
draft tomorrow, which is great. Cause I love horror movies.
2084
01:54:05.869 --> 01:54:06.350
Am I right?
2085
01:54:07.109 --> 01:54:10.350
Um, um, it totally doesn't stretch you out.
2086
01:54:10.869 --> 01:54:13.130
Yeah, no, not at all. You know, shout out MTF,
2087
01:54:13.189 --> 01:54:18.149
Maggie or Maga. Yeah. I see what you did there. Um, and, um,
2088
01:54:19.109 --> 01:54:23.880
all I'm going to say is jam is right. Not
2089
01:54:23.909 --> 01:54:24.439
you TJ.
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Yes.
2091
01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:31.199
You guys are both very good at, uh, Arguing to
2092
01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:34.840
prove yourselves right as opposed to arguing to listen. Jam,
2093
01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:37.090
where can the people find you on socials and where
2094
01:54:37.100 --> 01:54:38.060
can they find the pod?
2095
01:54:39.319 --> 01:54:41.810
Yeah, you guys can check me out at all socials.
2096
01:54:42.250 --> 01:54:45.369
Jam Session just replaced the E with an X in session.
2097
01:54:45.949 --> 01:54:49.850
My pod YouTube channel is Journey Across Media. I'm actually
2098
01:54:49.890 --> 01:54:52.170
going to be dropping in the next few minutes here
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the Resident Evil podcast featuring myself, my guy CJ, the
2100
01:54:56.689 --> 01:55:01.000
horror enthusiast, and uh our friend also from the controller
2101
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:04.260
club uh lauren rouse so check that out if you
2102
01:55:04.300 --> 01:55:07.520
wanted to see our thoughts about the movie comparisons to
2103
01:55:07.539 --> 01:55:10.960
the game and just the overall adaptation and news new
2104
01:55:11.100 --> 01:55:12.539
horror film from zach crager.
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01:55:15.569 --> 01:55:18.109
I have we got we got lots of fun stuff
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coming later this week we will have interviews from matt
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aguilar for legend of the white dragon for Descendants, Wicked Wonderland.
2108
01:55:24.939 --> 01:55:27.140
I'm going to have one with Brendan Wayne dropping over
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the next couple of days. So stay tuned to the
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01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:31.880
YouTube channel. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get your pods.
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Check out agentsofandom.com. AF and the Comic Corner crew will
2112
01:55:35.789 --> 01:55:38.989
be back on Thursday talking about some comics. Or is
2113
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it Wednesday this week because of the free comic book day?
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I forgot.
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I got to talk to you guys about that. And
2116
01:55:44.010 --> 01:55:51.039
so we will soon have lots more comic stuff. TV stuff,
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movie stuff, and video game stuff coming, so stay tuned.
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At Agents Fandom on TikTok and Twitter, Agents of Fandom
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everywhere else. Thank you so much for tuning in, everybody.
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On behalf of myself, Jan, AF, and TCR, we will
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see you next time.
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Peace.