Creating the 'Airbnb for Offsites': Jared Kleinert on Building the Future of Work Retreats
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich interview Jared Kleinert, founder of Offsite.com, who shares insights on planning effective team retreats that transform from "nice-to-have" into strategic "must-have" events for remote and hybrid companies. Kleinert emphasizes that …
The Fractional Executive Myth with Sally Thornton, Forshay
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich interview Sally Thornton, founder of Forshay. Sally shares insights on the fractional executive placement business she's built since 2011. Thornton emphasizes that successful fractional work requires consultative skills, boundary man…
Why HR Should Never Lead Training: The Case for Leader-to-Leader Learning with Fidelma Butler, Couchbase
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich interview Fidelma Butler, Chief People Officer at Couchbase, a NoSQL cloud database platform company. They talk about how to build effective L&D programs by defining clear leadership standards, focusing resources on senior leaders, a…
I Demoted Myself Twice at Meta - And It Made Me Happier with Cynthia "Baz" Shrauner, Head of People - Electric Capital
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich talk to Cynthia "Baz" Shrauner, former Meta HR executive and current Head of People at Electric Capital. Baz discusses her unconventional career move of voluntarily demoting herself twice to focus on work she genuinely enjoyed rather…
MPL Live SF: HR is the glue holding everything together right now
Tiffany Stevenson (Former CPO, WeightWatchers), Jennifer Rettig (CPO, Pendo.io), and Kelli Dragovich (4x CHRO & Co-host of HR Heretics), joined us for MPL Live in San Francisco.
We talked about the pressure HR leaders are under, what CEOs are really thinking, and how we can reimagine performance w…
Perks, Paychecks, and Pissed-Off Employees W/Kelli Dragovich
Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo sit down with Kelli Dragovich, four-time CPO and co-creator of HR Heretics, for a candid conversation about today’s toughest workplace challenges.
They unpack:
Why traditional benefits often backfire (and what actually matters most to employees).
The rise in …
Inside LinkedIn's First AI Agent, with Mark Lobosco
In this episode of HR Heretics, Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church sit down with LinkedIn's VP of Talent Solutions Mark Lobosco to discuss their new "Hiring Assistant" - an agentic AI tool automating recruitment intake, sourcing, and messaging. Today, early adopters are saving 4+ hours per role, rev…
How to Survive Working With Founders with Kelli Dragovich, Chief People Officer
"It's easier than ever to start a business now."
In this engaging conversation, Kelli Dragovich, a seasoned HR leader with experience at major tech companies like Google and Yahoo, shares insights on the challenges of traditional HR practices, the importance of building genuine connections, and th…
Episode 2: Practical Strategies For Growing Your HR Career And Professional Network - with Kelli Dragovich
Welcome to this episode of the People Leader Accelerator Podcast, where we sit down with industry leaders to uncover the real-life insights, strategies, and challenges that shape world-class organizations.
Our guest today is Kelli Dragovich, a seasoned Chief People Officer and Bay Area native, wh…
Vibe sourcing is here
In this crossover episode from HR Heretics, Metaview CEO Siadhal Magos joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich to demo Metaview's new autonomous AI Sourcing agent. They break down why AI-native sourcing tools are redefining what's possible in recruiting, how "promptless sourcing" creates magic from…
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