September 30, 2026

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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for checking out this archived edition of the Wake Up Carolina Morning Show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Brought to you by Mickey Finns.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good morning.
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[UNKNOWN]: Welcome to Wake Up Carolina Wednesday morning, September the 30th, 8, 4, 3, 6, 6, 1, 0, 9, 3, 7 is the number good morning, Josh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good morning.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good morning, Roya.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're ready.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want to continue a conversation with Josh that we kind of them not got interrupted by yesterday, but we ran out of time.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll go off the air at about 10.
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[UNKNOWN]: So at 10, Josh and I were
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[UNKNOWN]: I haven't a discussion, not as much a debate, but a discussion about some of the realities of this election and where young people find themselves young conservatives, young liberals who are excited to vote against Trump and for communism, young conservatives, far more apprehensive, far more willing to sit this one out.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's been kind of a topic of conversation for the past month or so as the polls clearly show that the Republican Party's in trouble, but there's no denying that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, I told Ray of, uh, I'm going to sit you a screenshot, I takes Robert, I said the GOP is in big trouble and he said much worse than you imagined.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, really much worse than you I mean, I believe you, but I really believe that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I'm a, you know, I'm, I'm a loudmouth.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a strategist and a polster as somebody who has dad in the backup, his talking points.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, I've told you this, Ray of Robert and I've stayed in touch with one another because he has the data.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it times the data even confuses him.
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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't feel that waking in.
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[UNKNOWN]: How do you feel?
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[UNKNOWN]: He thinks I have a pretty good grasp of the the sentiments of the American vote.
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[UNKNOWN]: We talk to you guys every morning.
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[UNKNOWN]: You learn a lot as we speak to a group of conservative voters slash, I don't notice some degree activists, I guess.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Robert wants to make sure there is, are you hearing what my polls are showing?
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[UNKNOWN]: Because at times, there's this connect.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now we know this.
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[UNKNOWN]: What we know that history says, polls try to create an narrative.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we, we genuinely, I do.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I believe that some of the, the Quinnipiac pole, the your time's pole, the Wall Street Journal pole, the C&N pole, just some degree, the Fox pole, I think they're to establish an air, if not reflect the narrative.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you've always going into these polling seasons, a bit apprehensive about, well, let me say Texas is in play, but I've heard that before.
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[UNKNOWN]: They say South Carolina is in play, but I've heard that before.
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[UNKNOWN]: This feels different.
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[UNKNOWN]: just to me, this feels different.
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[UNKNOWN]: The polls show Texas is in play.
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[UNKNOWN]: The polls show South Carolina's in play.
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[UNKNOWN]: It feels like that's real.
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[UNKNOWN]: It didn't feel that way when, um, what's the guy's name, they're ready to get to Lindsay?
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[UNKNOWN]: Jamie Harrison.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jamie Harrison, I just said never felt like, wow, guys, I'm at this could be the real deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not in Texas.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know how the the feelings are with Talarico and Paxon, but the polls say right now, he's the favorite.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not only does the polls say that, the prediction markets say that.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll express a theory here just a bit.
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[UNKNOWN]: We got to call.
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[UNKNOWN]: We do.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the phone.
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[UNKNOWN]: They don't come back and and talk about how lousy it is for the Atlanta Braves to play a playoff game at two o'clock in the afternoon three consecutive days because they aren't New York.
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[UNKNOWN]: They aren't Boston.
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[UNKNOWN]: They aren't one of the major North East liberal elitist hubs.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're the good old South.
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[UNKNOWN]: And once again, the Southern team gets regularly relegated to the not so prime time.
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[UNKNOWN]: Slot will from Las Vegas yesterday called us from Cincinnati to use his words.
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[UNKNOWN]: And where are you this morning?
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[UNKNOWN]: Will.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm still in Cincinnati until Saturday.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm breathing the good southern air and looking at these green trees.
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[UNKNOWN]: I might use to see them out west.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not big in the racing.
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[UNKNOWN]: The closest I got the racing was when I was in high school, I flirted with Kelly Arborl's daughter without success.
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[UNKNOWN]: That shows you how smart she is.
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[UNKNOWN]: Trying to be his son-in-law, but it didn't work.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I did go to a few races at Dronen County at Dronen to the Raceway.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there's two stories I'd like to tell you all about.
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[UNKNOWN]: Chi Chi has made 265 NASCAR starts mainly in the truck series.
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[UNKNOWN]: She was a number 10 car, and her best finish was number six.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think down the Daytona in 2011.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, she just made the news because she had her in a fair on her husband.
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[UNKNOWN]: She married a crew chief, not her own, I don't think.
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[UNKNOWN]: But somebody she met on the circuit back in 2015,
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[UNKNOWN]: with the man from Davidson County, North Carolina.
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[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of people may not know this, but North Carolina has very strict alienation and criminal conversation laws.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you flirt with a married person and they leave their spouse for you, you could be sued in civil court and she just successfully got sued.
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[UNKNOWN]: Her net worth is $3 million.
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[UNKNOWN]: And a jury in Davidson County,
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[UNKNOWN]: just ordered her to pay $850,000 for breaking up a marriage and her strange husband we went beat up her lover so he got arrested too.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's a NASCAR drama for you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, you have a comment about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: That makes me proud to be a NASCAR fan.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's NASCAR.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's best.
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[UNKNOWN]: It'll fight get all lawsuit.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somebody messin' with somebody's wife.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that there's a, um, the soap opera of NASCAR.
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[UNKNOWN]: at jail for joker's a good looking woman.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what she's doing running around because she I never heard of her till now she she's a pretty good looking.
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess she shows you how hard it is because it says the NASCAR 265 starts best finishes six.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that's the tough competition.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, women can't drive.
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[UNKNOWN]: That'll help you.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was a rare, that was a rare, that was a rare, that was a rare, that was a rare, that was a rare.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Will.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think Will said.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you blame it on me.
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[UNKNOWN]: In the second thing I had to tell you about is, you know, we got four million one out in Las Vegas has been out there for the last couple of years that's coming up in November.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I applied to be a race marshal and got accepted and went through the train and there was a full day of training this past Saturday.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I got my race marshal license now for four million one.
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[UNKNOWN]: So they trained me how to recover cars, fight fires, and be flagged in communication.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's so many turns in the over three mile course of Formula One that goes through Las Vegas streets.
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[UNKNOWN]: You have to have a lot of flagged in communication people to monitor all those turns.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I'm excited about doing that for four days and learned a lot about Formula One.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'd love for you to comment on one.
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[UNKNOWN]: they don't they started race with a full tank gas and that's it they outlawed refueling during the race they only change tires during pit stops and that's because they use a specialized pressurized tank to fill up the tank.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they had some bad fire years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: So they outlawed refuel and they're pissed off.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they used some special bio fuel because it's all European stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: They don't want to be accused of being fossil fuels.
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[UNKNOWN]: They use a special bio fuel that costs $1,800 a gallon.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they drive hybrid cars.
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[UNKNOWN]: They have so much electric, they're 50% electric, 50% gas.
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[UNKNOWN]: But they go 200 miles an hour.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if I'm recovering the car, if I don't see a green light, I could literally get shocked by this car.
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[UNKNOWN]: and hurt if it has a electrical system malfunction.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I thought all that was interesting.
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[UNKNOWN]: There are Europeans, a race and a hybrid cars that you can't repule and they're using bio opules with what's your common on that kid.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Will, appreciate it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, as a pilot, you're trying to get something in the air as a form of the wind drive and they're trying to keep it on the ground.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm a NASCAR fan, but I have a great respect for the technological advances in form of the one.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is the most exotic, I'm technologically advanced.
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[UNKNOWN]: a three-year-old seeking motor sports on planet earth period.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I love the good old boys, if I didn't rub it and ain't racing, I like that, you know?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I didn't mean to reckon, you've heard that Sunday after Sunday, I'm short track racing in the deep south.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm a big fan of that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But as a, I don't know a student a motor sports ray of, and I'm probably somewhat of a student of motor sports, Formula One is just wild.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's surprising to me and most would not imagine this, Rev, if you had to pick two sports that historically have had the highest paid athlete in the world.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you can argue with the race car drivers, the athletes are not.
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[UNKNOWN]: What two sports do most America is not think about, but they're always in the top two or three or four of that list.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'd say formula one and soccer.
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[UNKNOWN]: Bingo.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the guy driving for team for all your team Mercedes, he is one of the three or four highest paid athletes in the world, same thing with soccer, Leonardo Messi, Michael Schumacher.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, a lot in pro some of those guys that have been legends in Formula One, they're always, always, always one of the two or three highest paid, um, and I want to get into the airs of the debate about is the race car driver and athlete or not.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, there are obviously courageous little bit nutty for the most part to want to get in something to go around curves at 200 some odd miles an hour.
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[UNKNOWN]: I watched a video of like Road America.
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[UNKNOWN]: and it had a NASCAR, Joshua Fully equipped NASCAR from over in the the Concord area where all the NASCAR shops are they were out at road America doing a road course test at the same time like team Honda was there doing the Formula One test and the the Formula One car
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[UNKNOWN]: went around the NASCAR, and it looked like, you know, a NASCAR going past the family sedan, I mean, it was that much difference to the speed.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, um, and that's why don't like NASCAR on road courses.
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[UNKNOWN]: Those are big, heavy.
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[UNKNOWN]: a bit clumsy cars trying to make flat turns and these are these form of the one aerodynamic rev what they're bobbing is the kind of interesting wheels of pilot because you're talking about leafed and thrust and all these other sorts of things they're talking about downforce.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of aviation inversion.
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[UNKNOWN]: How fast can we go and not leave the ground?
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, um, the Gulf Stream or the commercial jet, how quick can we get off the ground?
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[UNKNOWN]: How efficiently can we fly this thing?
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, and the, the team Honda, team Mercedes team Ferrari.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, all they're saying is at 220 miles an hour, this thing has a tendency to lift off.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do we do to keep it on the ground?
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[UNKNOWN]: And the wild part is the driver say, can I go faster?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm going to 20.
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[UNKNOWN]: Josh, is there anybody to go faster?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well,
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, I'll take my chances.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I like the idea of staying on the ground, but if it doesn't, you know, I'm an national hero.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have three days of my body laying in wake.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a little bit like a president dying.
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[UNKNOWN]: If the team Ferrari driver dies in a form of the one accident,
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[UNKNOWN]: Italy shuts down for three days.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like a kind of a head of state.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like an international diplomat dying.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's how important Formula One is around the world.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I like America's embraced it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's not as popular in America as NASCAR is because NASCAR is American centric.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I like the idea of Americans having an appetite for Formula One.
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[UNKNOWN]: Another
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[UNKNOWN]: Josh, another expensive globalism in America.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're kicking NASCAR to the curb, inviting team Ferrari and team Mercedes, and it's an international affair.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is what I'm trying to say.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you can't get in, Will, if you don't have a Rolex or Omega.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, Jeff, you got to have one of the other.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't get in when I hear.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a little bit louder on our cup.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is that a timeix?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I cannot hear.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can't come in here.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think with some of the some of the foreign to wonder, what I've noticed, what I've heard.
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[UNKNOWN]: I've not noticed this because I'm a good old 63-year-old Southern Baptist been made 40 years.
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[UNKNOWN]: What I've heard is the the ladies walking around a F1 race are something to behold.
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[UNKNOWN]: I've just heard that, um, designer clothes and, um, sheke outfits.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
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[UNKNOWN]: see age.
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[UNKNOWN]: I see the chic outfits.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just heard that.
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[UNKNOWN]: When I watched a form of the one race, I'm watching the technological advances.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't notice any of that because once again, devoutly Southern Baptist 63 years old, married 40 years, I got no business checking out what the the race car driver's wives and girlfriends are wearing.
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[UNKNOWN]: but they're either on Omega or a Rolex.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll muck some other things.
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[UNKNOWN]: You get in them, Riches.
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[UNKNOWN]: What time did you start putting in pants on now to be there with you?
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, anyway, and I would say that,
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[UNKNOWN]: Those ladies go to the gym and not the golden corral.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll just some.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm being a bit inappropriate here this morning.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go back to the brave for half.
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[UNKNOWN]: So great.
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[UNKNOWN]: Finally.
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[UNKNOWN]: The.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's wheels fault.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm at the pilot.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks.
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[UNKNOWN]: You got a segment on the show now.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's at 6.
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[UNKNOWN]: So five.
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[UNKNOWN]: So the braves had at 18 of 81 games in the regular season, that they didn't have that stadium 75% full.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you back out of that, what, 70, 60, 63 of the 81 games, the Braise had at least 75% capacity.
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[UNKNOWN]: They make the playoffs at 73%.
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[UNKNOWN]: They have 30, 127, that's a 73% rule we notice that.
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[UNKNOWN]: You could tell untill that it's a two o'clock start and you had a 48 hour heads up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, two o'clock on a Tuesday, what do you expect?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think MLB just hates the vans.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you think MLB just loves the money?
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[UNKNOWN]: you know what I mean guy can we play this game in its entirety that game in its entirety and another game in its entirety but when the braze got behind a good friend of mine big braze fan kind of like you I mean he loves the braze he text me kind of a emit text you know here we go again I mean you beat the fillies in 162 games and I got to play him in this crazy three game series we know baseball is very finicky temperamental um
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[UNKNOWN]: The Braves were behind a run in the eighth inning, if I'm not mistaken, and Austin Roddy hits a three run home or he did.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it kind of led me down the road of, okay, the Braves have historically in my life been pretty good in the regular season, but they kind of failed to meet the market the postseason in recent years.
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[UNKNOWN]: But is that how you feel?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, certainly, but it's not the reality because they've won the division many times of it last decade and didn't go very far in the playoffs.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, what if I told you the braze of one in the last 10 years, the braze of one 55% of their regular season games?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's a pretty good note.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's about 5th all-time in the last 10 years.
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[UNKNOWN]: In the playoffs, they went about 51% of their games.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there is somewhat of a margin in the braves, 95% of college football is not good.
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[UNKNOWN]: 55% of the NFL's not play off caliber.
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[UNKNOWN]: 55% of major league baseball, I mean, you went in two or three, it's unheard of.
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[UNKNOWN]: You went 100 baseball games.
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[UNKNOWN]: You went 60% of your games.
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[UNKNOWN]: You've had a phenomenal year.
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[UNKNOWN]: Brace, when I think 95 or six this year, had a really, really good year.
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[UNKNOWN]: One that visioned by six games over the Phillies, who have been an emesis.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's kind of standard rev, that's not, I mean, the Braves play well in the regular season, the Braves don't play a way on the playoff, that we Braves fans have convinced ourselves of that, but we're doing about what everybody else does.
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[UNKNOWN]: And here's the reason.
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[UNKNOWN]: Guess what you don't do in the post season.
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[UNKNOWN]: You don't play a bunch of lousy teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to beat up on the bad teams of the regular season and you hold your own with good teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of how you get the 95 wins or so when you win a division, you don't get beat by the bad teams and you don't get killed by the good teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: One of the playoffs you play in all good teams for the most part.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it stands to reason that a team that wins 55% of its regular season gains or going to win a little bit less over percentage of those games.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I really believe this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't get your take on this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe the reason, Braves Nation feels as it does, is in that run.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not talking about the most recent run they've had.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm talking about it in the all-time great runs of the history of Major League Baseball, the Maddie's Glave and Smoltz Run is what I'll call it.
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[UNKNOWN]: They only won World Championship.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it feels like they should have won three.
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[UNKNOWN]: maybe even four.
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[UNKNOWN]: It feels like they were good enough to have been one of the great dynasties of major league baseball.
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[UNKNOWN]: And had they won another war series of two, they would have been one of the great dynasties and the history of major league baseball, but they're failure to win at least one, maybe two or even three more left kind of a bad taste in the Braise mouth.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it was easy to say, oh, they'll win like hell in the regular season.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you watch what happens to the playoffs.
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[UNKNOWN]: The data says otherwise.
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[UNKNOWN]: The data says the braves are about like all the other teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: They win a lot of the regular season.
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[UNKNOWN]: They win their fair share in the postseason, but there's a margin there because you don't play the bad teams in the regular season.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I'm editorializing when I say, I think, I mean, that's the numbers.
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[UNKNOWN]: The numbers are the numbers.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe that the reason brace fans feel that way goes back to that team that included three Hall of Fame pictures in the prom of their career, which is beyond crazy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, think about it.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, only have a guy on his way out.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's Hall of Famer, but he's on his last leg.
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[UNKNOWN]: You got another guy who may one of these days be a Hall of Famer, but he's a young book.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, they had three Hall of Fame pictures in the prime of their career play in the most important position on the baseball field, you know, pitching, and they won one world championship.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I just think Bray's nation says we always fail to the playoffs and what you're basically subconsciously saying is that team should have one more than one world championship and they probably not a problem.
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[UNKNOWN]: They should have one more than one world championship.
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[UNKNOWN]: The other thing out of touch showing a Josh on that we're behind here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a break.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll come back on the other side because we'll
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[UNKNOWN]: as his daily segment now at 6.05 and we want to be kind of real because he is a pilot that we refer to every now and then when we have questions about aviation, take a break back at a few.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're back 843-661-0937.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want to real quick do this and then we'll jump we'll go to the politics and Josh and I can argue about what generation is voting, what generation it isn't voting.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying this.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sitting at home is a vote for Jack Smith.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of, that's the theme of the show today sitting at home as a vote for Jack Smith and if Jack Smith gets a chance to go after any Republican in Washington, he's already proven he'll do it, he loves doing it, he relishes doing it, he'll take the criticism in fact.
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[UNKNOWN]: He kind of enjoys the criticism.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll stand in front of Senate said you damn right, I did it and I'll do it again.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let them let the Democrats get the majority.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll finish the job.
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[UNKNOWN]: What we didn't get done in truck one, we'll finish the job in truck 2.0.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we'll have a chance to discuss that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Before we go down that road rev, remember yesterday when we talked about the protect college sports act.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I said one of the amendments that passed.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, under the amendments passed for the most part, one amendment that did pass is raising the number of teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: that a conference can pay off from 19 to 20 and that increased the number of the chances of a Clemson or a Florida State or a Miami or a North Carolina or Virginia or an NC State or Texas Tech or an Oklahoma State that makes six lots available in the SEC in Big TN and not four.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if I'm a Clemson fan, I'm not saying I'm ready to bolt.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not arguing that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But if this thing starts really heading in a bad way, I want to be able to find myself a path forward to either get into the big TN or the SEC.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm one of the few gamecock fans that are going to record and say, I think Clemson needs to be in the SEC.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think they'd enjoy the benefit financially, but I think they'd find the sledding tough.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think most reasonable Clemson fans believe that it would be a tough sled, but it would be unbelievably financially rewarding.
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[UNKNOWN]: Clemson has competed at the highest level.
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[UNKNOWN]: South Carolina has not.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I think they would have more confidence in themselves.
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[UNKNOWN]: challenging the the Georgia's and Alabama's and Tennessee's of the world then South Carolina Wood.
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[UNKNOWN]: But here's what matters so much.
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[UNKNOWN]: I went back and pulled some of the clay Travis reported this yesterday.
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[UNKNOWN]: The viewership number, Texas, Tennessee, 9.7 million.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm Ole Miss Florida 8.3 million Texas A&M LSU 5.7 million SC Alabama 2.9 million Oklahoma Georgia 2.6 million
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[UNKNOWN]: Oregon Southern California 4.6 million.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll Michigan 4.5 million North Western Indiana 3.9 million.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight games that had north of 2.6 million viewers.
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[UNKNOWN]: No other game this weekend had over million and a half.
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[UNKNOWN]: nobody else matters.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm sorry.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this weekend will be different.
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[UNKNOWN]: Clemson is in the broad lots this weekend.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're hosting Miami.
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[UNKNOWN]: Probably your team better than LSU.
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[UNKNOWN]: So they've got their chance to redeem themselves and say, hey, what you saw opening week, I guess LSU, it really who we are.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know the book he's think that's who they are because they've got Miami as a 17-point favorite.
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[UNKNOWN]: But that's why this matter so much of your Clemson fan.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I don't have a sympathetic place in my heart for the Clemson fan, but it's a state university.
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[UNKNOWN]: It needs to do well for the state to do well.
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[UNKNOWN]: And
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[UNKNOWN]: and the writing is on the wall as far as I'm concerned.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll tell you what the SEC did that was in their best interest, and I'll get sank you a little credit for this, because I remember reading about the big TN offers were it's a multi-packaged television deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's more lucrative than the SEC.
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[UNKNOWN]: The takeaway would be, well, I mean, the SEC's got all these ratings and all these viewers while the big TN make it more money.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the big teams are going to have a problem because their contract is with NBC, CBS, and Fox.
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[UNKNOWN]: You got to kind of chase the teams around the dial.
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[UNKNOWN]: What did the SEC do?
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[UNKNOWN]: They signed with Disney.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when you signed with Disney, you get ESPN.
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[UNKNOWN]: You get the SEC network.
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[UNKNOWN]: You get ABC.
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[UNKNOWN]: You get ESPN plus.
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[UNKNOWN]: You get all.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is kind of centrally packaged.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's why I believe the big teams are going to have a lot of viewers.
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[UNKNOWN]: SCC's going to have a lot of viewers, but I think the SCC viewers ship would exceed the expectations of the big TN because the big 10 games don't end B.C.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, is that game on NBC or CBS?
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[UNKNOWN]: No, it's on Fox.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's why I couldn't find it.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's all about the braves.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, braise vision.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't find majorly baseball games.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I just think that if you're Clemson fan long-term, not today, today it needs to be about Miami and Saturday night.
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[UNKNOWN]: But long-term, you better find you placed a lane.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it better be one of these two leads.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure Clemson has very capable competent people negotiating on their behalf.
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[UNKNOWN]: But when you look at these numbers, Ray, I'm in a lot of people to watch in college football.
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[UNKNOWN]: But everybody's watching the SEC or big team.
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[UNKNOWN]: And viewership is king.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's what drives the training.
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[UNKNOWN]: The other negative information I'm going to throw in there is Nick Saven, was on ESP in yesterday.
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[UNKNOWN]: He has a God complex.
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[UNKNOWN]: Saven basically believes that the free market principles need to be applied to coaching salaries and the free market principles need to be applied AD salaries and president salaries and television contracts.
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[UNKNOWN]: The only place to free market, we can't trust the free market.
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[UNKNOWN]: The free market can't be trusted as players.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, the free market, I mean, I'm a conservative Republican.
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[UNKNOWN]: I trust the free market.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, you think you're new or you don't.
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[UNKNOWN]: So the protect college sports side and Nick Sabin and Teddy Ball game, you know, strongly endorsing, how did they basically say in, you know, we're fairly free market minded people.
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[UNKNOWN]: So let the free market decide what television networks are willing to pay to conferences.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let the free market decide what the university can pay the coach.
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[UNKNOWN]: But we don't trust a free market when it comes to what players should be paid to demonstrate their abilities and skills.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I've got an answer.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I get accused all the time, a point now that he's wrong with the world, but never ever offering a solution.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got the solution here, and a buddy of mine to you, I think I'd like to say, you're ready?
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[UNKNOWN]: You allocate a certain amount of money.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the university spins it accordingly.
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[UNKNOWN]: You've got a right now, let's say we got a $40 million budget for student athletes.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we don't have a budget for coaches.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't have a budget for ADs.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't have a budget for ticket pricing.
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[UNKNOWN]: But what if every college football athletics department had a budget?
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[UNKNOWN]: And if you pay a coach 5 million and not 10, you can pay the players more.
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[UNKNOWN]: you pay the AD more.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you in other words, it's an all-in budget.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's say $75 million.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm just making it up a number here.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the PCSA raised some of the seedlings from where the NCAA versus House suit
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[UNKNOWN]: And some of the codification, that's a fancy political word, but they're codifying some of the house resolution into the public policy.
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[UNKNOWN]: It ain't passing the house because the Democrats will be in charge and the black caucus will block it.
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[UNKNOWN]: They'll argue it's depriving African-American student athletes of maximizing their financial potential.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I was thinking about it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yesterday, I said, okay, what do you have, I mean, savings basically say in the free market is to be trusted in certain places, but not in others.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what have we applied a free market principle?
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[UNKNOWN]: And we said, Carolina Clemson, you've got 80 million bucks.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if you pay your coach a bunch, you can't pay your players as much.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you choose where you're going to allocate your resource.
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[UNKNOWN]: Interest.
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[UNKNOWN]: You make free market, principal decisions, and you reap the benefit of the consequence.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you think it's worth going out and hiring, you know, one of the great great coaches and other words, if South Carolina was going to fire Shane Beamer and the guy on their radar was the guy in Notre Dame.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm just being hypothetical here.
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[UNKNOWN]: He ain't coming cheap, but he would come.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a number, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why would a guy lead Notre Dame to come to South Carolina?
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[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
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[UNKNOWN]: Don't rain me.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Monty's the answer now was the question.
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[UNKNOWN]: So Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame would say, I'm not leaving this storied brand to go coach in the conference that I'm assuming the coach in the school that's never won outside of Steve's barrier.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Danotti says, I would 20 million here, get your attention.
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[UNKNOWN]: go caught.
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[UNKNOWN]: You see what you see where I'm at it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: Give me one of those knocking off going at sweatshirts or whatever.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, we complain about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think that that might be the answer to a establish a number that Clemson and South Carolina.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm using those because we're most they're most dear to our hearts.
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[UNKNOWN]: Clemson can decide whether they want to scamp on a coach or a coaching staff.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, they want to go after the best coaching, coaching style that leaves you less to spend non-players.
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[UNKNOWN]: Very swits are famously said, it's about Jimmy's and Joe's, it ain't X as an O's.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, if you spend money on the guy and charred to the X as an O's, you ain't got as much to spend on the Jimmy's and Joe's, but if you spend a much of money on Jimmy's and Joe's and not a lot on the X as an O's, you may have great potential in your team, but they're not reaching.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think it would be an interesting way to address the concern and that's fair to the
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think you're looking everybody in the same boat because everything about this PCSA and bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: We do need to rainy and some of the out of control, I'm spending and some of the chaos that ensues.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we do.
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[UNKNOWN]: I genuinely believe that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I don't think you can do it for everybody but the players.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think you lose in court.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I think if you were to say we're going to establish a number that football programs in America can spend and how they spend its their business.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if they wanna lure Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame, that's a lot less they got to pay that running back quarterback at Wider's Leaver.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you'll let them run like professional sports teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's probably the best long term.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's at 843661, oh, 9th, so there.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't accuse me any longer upon you got what's wrong with the world and offering up no solution.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just hope Greg Sanky is listening this morning.
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[UNKNOWN]: Take a break, we'll be back in just a few.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is what I'm thinking, Ray, why are we calling it the sandals model, all inclusive.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's all inclusive.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to pay one price and you get your team, your coaches, your coaching staff, the buyout money.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somebody texted me a second ago and said, what do you do with the coaches' buyout?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, let me think you're forced to make better decisions.
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[UNKNOWN]: You don't sign coaches to long-term deals with the buyouts that haven't really proven.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you can't let the free market play in every corner except where the players are, especially rail with the players of not to go shaded.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you a second ago, because you asked me is there a limit to transfers in this protect college sports act, there he is.
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[UNKNOWN]: Judges are required to follow the law.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think, but I still believe judges are human beings.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if a human being sees that a university or a college sports will allow you to transfer one time a no penalty, but won't allow you to toss with no penalty, there's some human element there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think the judge says that the law is a bit ambiguous,
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[UNKNOWN]: But the NCAA seems to be making a good faith there for it and addressing no transfer without sitting out.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because that's where we were.
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[UNKNOWN]: If a kid wants to transfer from school, the school will be, he's got to sit out.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, kids were liberated during the lawsuit and bank transfers many times they'd like.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, that's not good for the sport.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's not good.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think a judge would say, I don't know, man, it seems the NCAA's being reasonable.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're letting the kids transfer one time and no penalty or punishment, but they're not letting them transfer twice.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if there's a little bit of, if there's a lack of clarity in the law,
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[UNKNOWN]: but one size showed a good faith there for it to be working toward a amicable, amicable, a lot of solution.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we'll let that ride.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll, and I'll tell you this, it's the fun and games department, but the fun and games department features a lot of money.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's kind of where we are a society that loves to be entertained.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the day that
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[UNKNOWN]: college football became less of a pageantry and a summer after noon at one and it became all about the television networks, that's the day it became entertainment.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I know a lot of us have trouble with that because we wanted to be what we grew up with.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not, it's not college football on a Sunday afternoon.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm of the same storm as what.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's entertainment.
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[UNKNOWN]: Running down the hill has become what.
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[UNKNOWN]: Entertainment.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if Clemson plays Saturday night, I guess Miami, and they will, guess what they'll tell of us, running down the hill.
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[UNKNOWN]: Why?
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[UNKNOWN]: Because it's so historically traditional with Clemson fans?
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[UNKNOWN]: My great-great-granddaddy with that, oh, it's entertainment.
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[UNKNOWN]: college football fans find Clemson running down the heel entertaining.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a part of the tradition of that sports same thing with 2001 or sandstorm or whatever.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somebody somewhere finds that interesting and entertaining.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think the sandals model.
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[UNKNOWN]: the all-inclusive resort model, and you said it a second ago, the coach has to decide if I want to be the highest-paid coach in America, but not have as much to spend on Jimmy's in Joe's, or am I willing to take somewhat of a pay cut?
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[UNKNOWN]: What is Tom Brady kind of famous for?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's one of a bunch of superboats, but what else is Brady famous for, and I'm not talking about Uggs boots.
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[UNKNOWN]: He gave up some salary, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: He'd always defer salary.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he'd always say, look, I don't.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think I deserve to be the highest paid player in football, but it's not that important to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: If I'm the highest paid player, the game, we can't go get into one of your brown.
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[UNKNOWN]: We can't go get stuff on to Gilmore.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather win Super Bowls and defer some of my salary down the road.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, the Patriot people that are very sophisticated, they're smart, they're not afraid to cut ties with players that are still beneficial to their, I just think it once again.
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[UNKNOWN]: The free market is the answer.
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[UNKNOWN]: So let's establish the free market reality at every facet of college sports.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if it applies to coaches, it applies to players, it applies to programs in general.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you've got a big old pot of money.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you spend that big old pot of money, however you choose to spend it.
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[UNKNOWN]: But if you want to, if you want to lure Marcus Freeman away from Notre Dame, you're not going to have anywhere near as much to spend on the team.
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[UNKNOWN]: You may believe the coach is worth it.
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[UNKNOWN]: and when he's not you got to figure that out.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think that's the best answer moving forward because my criticism of the protect college sports act can sound like I'm cool with where college football is today.
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[UNKNOWN]: I am not cool at all with where college football is today.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm just
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[UNKNOWN]: less cool with the hypocrisy that I see in play, um, Senator Kennedy from Louisiana, what did he do?
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[UNKNOWN]: He, um, offered a amendment that caps ticket price increases at 4% and what did Ted Cruz accuse him of price fixing?
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[UNKNOWN]: What did the whole bill's price fixing?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just frost fixing for Disney.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's rich.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's frost fishing for for paramount skydnie.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's having to hold bills.
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[UNKNOWN]: Prosthixing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's just not invite the people to the dance that deserve the most money.
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[UNKNOWN]: 843-661-0937-hour number.
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[UNKNOWN]: The last sports come in, I have, and then we'll move along, Josh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you know the difference in the Iowa Hawkeyes and the Atlanta Hawkes?
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... one has eyes and one doesn't well if you know the difference you need to be united state senator uh... because there's one united state senator that doesn't
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[UNKNOWN]: And it made the Republicans look God awful because that's the takeaway.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not Jack's myth being after the president.
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[UNKNOWN]: They were trying to got you moment and it failed.
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[UNKNOWN]: And somebody needs to lose their job.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, Rehab, if our Senator Schmidt, they would have lost their job.
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[UNKNOWN]: But then, on the spot, because Josh, what they did, they thought they had Jack's myth in Atlanta on August 3rd.
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[UNKNOWN]: And in Atlanta, Hulk's game.
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[UNKNOWN]: Remember when I'm
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[UNKNOWN]: Fanny Willis, um, take a load off Fanny.
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[UNKNOWN]: Remember when she was on after Trump, and we found out she had an escapade and a fair with old boat at work dinner office saying, and, you know, that there was some impropriety cell, I say, in hot Atlanta.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, uh,
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[UNKNOWN]: Eric Schmidt, the senator from Missouri, thought he had Jack Smith, dead to rights in Atlanta at an Atlanta Hawks game, his staff mistaken the Atlanta Hawks game for the Iowa Hawks guys women's basketball game.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the only times Jack Smith had been in Atlanta was that the Atlanta Hart's who they're poor going kind of a layover from one place to another and it was one of those O-Craft moments for the Republicans because nothing else missed way.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, everybody, everybody had convinced everybody that this guy is a hack.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a, he's a henchman.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's doing the Democrats bidding.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going after Trump.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's sustaining phone records.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's breaking constitutional norms.
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[UNKNOWN]: And all that's still true.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely true.
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[UNKNOWN]: But what do we talk about?
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you know the difference in the Atlanta Hawks and the Iowa Hawks?
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[UNKNOWN]: Especially women and men.
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[UNKNOWN]: See us through Republicans who know the difference in a man and a woman.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's another travesty in this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the Iowa Hawke guy's female basket ball team and the Atlanta Hawke's male basket ball team, as far as a good Democrat today's concern, there is no gender issue here.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're one of the same.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can be what you choose to be.
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[UNKNOWN]: that Caitlyn Clark wants to be a dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: She can be a dude if I'm the who's there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm allowed to help basketball players.
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[UNKNOWN]: He wants to be a girl anyway.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, but it was just an embarrassing moment.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Eric Schmidt from what I've read was an up and comer in the Republican, but you can't make that mistake.
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[UNKNOWN]: But that's that's Rick Perry and the government agencies that he couldn't think of that debate when he couldn't think of the Department of Energy.
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[UNKNOWN]: whatever, and I guess you saw the video or the picture of Senator Brits face when this turned off them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Her staff collaborated with his staff, and that was a look of horror.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you were, and I don't think he just purged yourself.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, I was at an Iowa Hawkehouse Women's Basketball game.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're back eight four three six six one oh nine three seven one of the people we pay attention to on this show or one of the people I pay attention to is Peter Teele of this thing is an interesting guy I'm not saying he's political genius, but he has a lot of interesting opinions kind of a futuristic um big picture view of the world
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[UNKNOWN]: And he said along with E-Line, some things a couple of years back, about AI that concerned us, because we don't understand it anywhere near at the level that a Peter Teele or an E-Line must does.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we're beginning to have discussions now about regulating AI or not who needs to regulate AI.
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[UNKNOWN]: If anyone, President Trump hosted some of what I guess are the industry leaders to discuss AI and possible regulations, Fox News Radio have been browning in Miami, is with us.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good morning.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I think the meetings are or the meeting is an important step here because it allowed the president to have face time with essentially these captains of industry.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's, you know, imagine a president sitting down with, you know, Carnegie and all these other big inventor industrialists of the, you know, 100 some odd years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is probably something
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[UNKNOWN]: A.I.
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[UNKNOWN]: or as the president now likes to call it super intelligence, S.I.
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[UNKNOWN]: is the next big thing that we are experiencing as a, you know, I think the country and as a civilization, and we obviously want to use it ethically, we want to use it responsibly, we want to develop it responsibly, but we have to develop it as the president says whoever wins the A.I.
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[UNKNOWN]: or now S.I.
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[UNKNOWN]: China will or Iran will or Russia will and we don't want to be behind the eight ball with this This is too big of a of a piece of technology that will not can that will not stop developing And we don't want to be second or third or fourth or fifth or tenth or no place We want to be first place because we as Americans will be the ones to use it ethically and morally and not use it for
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[UNKNOWN]: bad things, which a Russia or an Iran or a China would do.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then you mentioned some of the business tights of days going by when they went to Washington.
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[UNKNOWN]: They were normally worried about regulation.
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[UNKNOWN]: They normally want to Washington to let them liberate them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let them do their thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is it fair to say that the industry leaders of a art?
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure, whether they're asking Washington to get out of the way and let them do their things or partner with them in some way shape, perform and help create the framework in guardrails.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so there's a real mix of opinion on whether a not government should be very, you know, top heavy hand down kind of, you know, type of attitude about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: There are some of these chiefs of AI that are saying, yes, we do need regulation.
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[UNKNOWN]: There are others that are saying, let the industry do it itself.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think what President Trump did by having this
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[UNKNOWN]: this summit if you will and and having and signing in a court executive order afterwards you know having them put their names down on this is that he created the kind of like a moral agreement you know to say all right guys we're going to agree to work on this together somehow we'll we'll flesh it out in the future but I want you all to to be in on this you know you know we'll figure out a way to regulate you but we're going to do it with your input
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[UNKNOWN]: And your ideas because how do you regulate something you don't really fully understand and the people who fully understand it or at least understand it the best are the people who are the ones running the AI Labs right it is the Elon's and the Mark Zuckerberg's and the Jeff Bezos is in the Dario Montez and all that folks so you're going to need their input on figuring out how to regulate or govern this.
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[UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, you don't want to stifle them, and there's a balance that needs to be struck somehow.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, explain.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Abba, and appreciate the report.
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[UNKNOWN]: You bet.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you got to believe, guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Help me here.
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[UNKNOWN]: So in Carnegie.
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[UNKNOWN]: revolutionizes the steel industry, Josh, and someone's watching a bill be a bridge be built over the Mississippi River that was in copper hintsable 50 years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you couldn't do that with a wallet.
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[UNKNOWN]: You couldn't do that with anything but steel and all of a sudden steel revolutionizes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somebody builds a building in New York City, a hundred stories tall.
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[UNKNOWN]: And but what revits a visual we can see that we can watch the building go up we can watch the bridge be built and we say that the economy guy must really know what he's doing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Revolutionizing the auto industry and we see a model a come out of a building and another and another and people get off work on Friday and it will back.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, in other words, there's a comprehension factor that we have.
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[UNKNOWN]: A.S. just out in the ether somewhere.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't understand it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I hear pinning him chips.
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[UNKNOWN]: I hear micro processing compute power.
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[UNKNOWN]: Where's that?
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[UNKNOWN]: Where's that bridge?
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, where's that skyscraper?
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[UNKNOWN]: Where's that model?
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[UNKNOWN]: A coming out at the end of a building?
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's going to be at least as impactful.
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[UNKNOWN]: Did Henry Ford change our lives?
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[UNKNOWN]: You bet.
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[UNKNOWN]: Did Andrew Carnegie change our lives?
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[UNKNOWN]: But we knew we could understand that you could change your hands on it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was, it was touchy and fiddly and intangible.
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[UNKNOWN]: And all of a sudden, we've got these Titans of industry.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they're building robots.
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[UNKNOWN]: Are they?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: Did the robot break bad?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: What's in that computer program?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: What is grok saying about it?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's so.
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[UNKNOWN]: different than all the other innovations, not all the other innovations, I guess the on the internet, we become more familiar and we know a little more about it today, but I would imagine the early days of the internet.
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[UNKNOWN]: We were, I mean, I said, if you would have been in Pampico, South Carolina, back in the 90s when the first facts came through to double a builders, I mean, you're talking about HACES, look at the one other like, ah, that's magic.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we better stop that now.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll lose control of humanity.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think it's such an interesting and the last person, I mean, I'll go in the record.
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[UNKNOWN]: The last person, I won't ensure our job is Trump.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now I got no problem with him renaming it because he's good at that, big news, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's not artificial intelligence now.
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[UNKNOWN]: What is it?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's super intelligent.
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[UNKNOWN]: So Trump says, the one person that I'd encourage you to listen to, I mean, if I do this for a living, so I'll try to figure out who the BS is or who actually knows what they're talking about Alice Carp from Palantir.
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[UNKNOWN]: He probably says too much rev at times.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said he's an odd duck.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's no denying that he's an odd.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's exactly what you would expect the guy leading Palantir to be.
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[UNKNOWN]: But he knows the AI industry up one side and down the other and he's pretty candid when he tries to be explained where we better be careful.
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[UNKNOWN]: And why would we better be careful?
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the phone, someone's there.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's Breeze, good morning Breeze.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, how does what we put a statement out there
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[UNKNOWN]: don't want to vote because of high gas prices and a rat.
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[UNKNOWN]: I would say this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I said, what would you, how would you feel today, if a rat were to had a declerball, and they were to send it off to this group?
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[UNKNOWN]: Or either, if it is, it will return the favor and send a declerball
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a propath that does anything, and it is what says, well, we don't have the capability to stop this of nuclear bomb, so we're going to seek a rampers, and then you think it will stop there, now you doubt, you can argue, if you're going to argue, that a ramp never has a nuclear bomb, did you have to also argue that, that Trump went to war, just to spend,
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[UNKNOWN]: hundreds of millions of dollars.
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[UNKNOWN]: Be with the war to lose the midterms.
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[UNKNOWN]: He went the war to raise the price of gas.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he went the war to make the military industrial complex off richer.
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[UNKNOWN]: None of that really makes sense to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: So then somebody said, if you still believe that, the next question I'll ask you, were you happy with the way Joe Biden
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[UNKNOWN]: and the Democrats treated us.
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[UNKNOWN]: What they had to throw after they stole the election from the AD for us to Democrats to not take retribution out of all of us to think different than them and I would leave it in that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Breeze, appreciate it.
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[UNKNOWN]: If every American had an appetite to discuss politics, that Breeze made a good case,
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's legitimacy to what he say it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't disagree with anything he said.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure about Iran's capacity or capabilities, but I don't think Bree said, emphatically, I know they had a bomb.
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[UNKNOWN]: I know they were about to use it, but that's a very wanted discussion.
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[UNKNOWN]: Here's the problem guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: 50 million Americans don't have that appetite.
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[UNKNOWN]: They just don't.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'd be a better place if they did.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, we'd be better if only a certain percentage of people watched the news and read and kept up and were politically literate, yeah, I mean, we'd be a better nation, but you got to meet the country where it is.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we are an unseased politically illiterate nation and trying to defend or argue on behalf of the Iran War as a losing proposition, it just is.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not my small margin, but by a wide margin, if the Sun fell watcher,
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[UNKNOWN]: had an appetite to sit down and give you a minute or two to explain why Trump did what he did, I would be far less concerned.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the one thing I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, they don't.
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[UNKNOWN]: They don't.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when you look at the polling and I look at it every single day, it's more troubling and more concerning to the point of alarming where we find ourselves today.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, the only place the republic is holding on, and I, I mean, in a weird way raf, she drives us crazy, but you got to get Susan Collins credit.
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[UNKNOWN]: Damn if she doesn't hang in there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Some way, if Texas is in play, Maine should be a slam dunk.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the last two polls I've seen in Maine, she's in a dead heat, really.
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[UNKNOWN]: She is in a dead heat.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, Maine's a small state.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's been there a long time.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's built these, you know, relationships.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's built this infrastructure.
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[UNKNOWN]: It would be Lindsey Graham on steroids.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it would be, you know, that the network and infrastructure Lindsey built that how many people said they're going vote for Lindsey?
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[UNKNOWN]: Nobody, how many did everybody?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think she's got some similarities to that, but there's no reason that Texas and Ohio are where they are in Maine is not.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I know she drives us crazy as a Republican because I don't think she's got a conservative bone in her body.
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[UNKNOWN]: But she's a main Republican.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's a North East Republican.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's not down south.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's not a firebring and mighty stretch of the imagination.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I'm telling you, other than Susan Collins in Maine, it could be nasty because Michigan is to the left of North Carolina.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's historical.
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[UNKNOWN]: If North Carolina is, I mean, the Republican is getting crushed in North Carolina.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you stand's getting crushed in Ohio today, not losing, getting crushed.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, polymarket, calcium.
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[UNKNOWN]: First time I've seen Tamariko over 60%.
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[UNKNOWN]: 60, 40's a big number.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, when the prediction market say this candidate has a 60% change to win, that's alarming to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's Texas.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now the one thing, and if we start at the show with it, the one thing that could be the unknown, the politically unknown, is how many times have we heard this?
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[UNKNOWN]: How many times have we heard, Reav.
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[UNKNOWN]: Remember, Rakesh, you'll might out.
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[UNKNOWN]: What was the biggest grandowner face that she had the biggest grandowner face
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[UNKNOWN]: And she said, South Carolina's in play.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was no way you could convince me of that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I feel different now.
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[UNKNOWN]: I feel that any Andrews has a chance to be a United States Senator from South Carolina.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, we can argue, Trump messed that up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's what it under the bridge.
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[UNKNOWN]: We can't undo what's been done.
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[UNKNOWN]: Darling Graham nor Don't is our candidate.
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[UNKNOWN]: And she or any Andrews are going to be our senator.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I still fake Darlene Graham nor knows the favorite, but it ain't my much, and it's not Rachel Matt Alcy in that.
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[UNKNOWN]: When Rachel Matt Alcy that about, I'm Jamie Harris, I just laughed it off because I felt I had kind of a gut level understanding of where the electric were, what they're willing to do and not do.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm telling you, Epstein and the Iran War have changed the, I mean, it's a paradigm shift.
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[UNKNOWN]: Trump was floating along.
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[UNKNOWN]: at about 50% approval, good number, second president.
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[UNKNOWN]: Immigration seemed to be under control.
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[UNKNOWN]: We were making a little progress on inflation.
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[UNKNOWN]: nowhere near what we needed to make, but you're not going to make a lot of progress on inflation when we're spending two trillion dollars a year we don't have.
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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter who's in the White House.
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[UNKNOWN]: If we're spending between $1.5 and $2 trillion here, we don't have that excess liquidity is going to be inflationary.
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[UNKNOWN]: It just is.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's nobody can stop that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, message trying, he's trying some political, I mean, economic juditsu, you know, buying short terms, selling long-term, you know, try trying to, I don't know,
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[UNKNOWN]: government ties is that that's not a word, but yeah, yeah, I mean, some of the interest rates, I mean, he's doing everything he can in and he's a smart guy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how he calls himself a capitalist, but he's doing what he believes the president, he's to have done to run for the midterms.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, interest rates are high or higher.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's not going to be good enough.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm tired of my generation calling in and and and opining.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I remember when it was 20 percent.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, guess what, young people don't.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's not their frame of reference.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's counterproductive to winning in November.
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[UNKNOWN]: What when a boomer calls in and says, while we complain about 8% interest rates, I pay 22% okay, you pay 22% none of that matters today.
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[UNKNOWN]: It matters zero today.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm telling you as a hone in on the two issues that have created the most concern for me.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's abstain with young voters and affordability with independence.
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[UNKNOWN]: The independent itn obsessed with abstain.
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[UNKNOWN]: The young voter is, the young Republican is real bothered by Trump appearing to cover Josh's that fair.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it doesn't upset me that much and it doesn't upset the sign fell watcher that much.
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[UNKNOWN]: The political young person, the young person that will listen to the reasons and rationale for going to war in Iran, they can't get past Epstein, they're still deeply bothered by Trump.
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[UNKNOWN]: basically declaring that we're going to know who those criminals were, we're going to know who those sleas bags were, Biden has kept us in the dark because there are a bunch of powerful sleas bags who committed horrendous and horrific crimes and if I'm elected we're going to let the country know who those sleas bags are and he has it and it's disturbing to young people.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the affordability, the combination of that and the affordability within dependence, it's just, I mean, it is insurmountable headwinds that the Republicans are dealing with.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and, and this is one of those cases where I don't think I'm necessarily the greatest spokesman.
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[UNKNOWN]: spokesman for all young people because obviously I have extreme views.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's, you know, I'm very explicit about that in a lot of cases, but I would say even the vast majority of young people just have the basic conservative views.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, in the, you know, in the Republican space, and they field this heartened by the lack of progress with the Republican party.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's not like, oh, well, you're shooting for the mountains and we're giving you the hills.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's not good enough.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, they're shooting for just anything and getting nothing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a break.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll be back in just a few.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're back, eight, four, three, six, six, one.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, nine, three, seven is our number.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we're talking about the national scene.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about, I'm going to root clear politics here a second ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think it is worthwhile to take kind of a deeper look.
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[UNKNOWN]: at each of these states.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you talked about Susan Collins in Maine, but we've talked about the races in Michigan, obviously Texas, Ohio, even South Carolina, what do you find?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I don't think there's any way the Republican-West North Carolina.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's any way the Republican-West Georgia.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm beginning to believe there's no way the Republican wins Ohio.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's a bail weather.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we had turned Ohio blue.
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[UNKNOWN]: Excuse me, red.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Trump coalition had really made some tremendous progress.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't think Iowa.
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[UNKNOWN]: is going to turn blue.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think, you know, I mean, if I always goes blue, then we've got big trouble.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Democrats are spending a lot of money in Texas.
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[UNKNOWN]: They don't have anywhere near as much to spend.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if we can argue about corn and impacts, and then who should have been the nominee or not?
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[UNKNOWN]: But Talariko is up about 3% and the RCP aggregate of polling in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: You've got the Hamas wing of the Democrat Party.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, adequately represented with Abdul El Saiyad.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's up about 4.6% and some of the national polling Texas.
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[UNKNOWN]: Once again, Ohio to me is the most troubling because it looks like shared Brown is comfortably.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's outside the margin of error.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's going to, I mean, if, what did we say about the not own
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[UNKNOWN]: The first truck we in in 2016, I mean, I've told our audience, I got a text that say you don't go to bed.
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[UNKNOWN]: because we bought into Trump, I mean, we were on the Trump train, and we were early, and we were aggressive, and we were unapologetic.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the polls were all saying that Hillary was going to win.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you and I kind of left here that day going well, it's been fun, but it's probably about to be over.
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[UNKNOWN]: And my buddy Ed McMullen, who ended up being a bastard of Switzerland, text me late that night and said, don't go to bed.
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[UNKNOWN]: I said, what do you mean, man, to media say us that, him, his panties of voting and record numbers in Florida?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this thing's going to be over in a hurry.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said, I promise you, it's not.
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[UNKNOWN]: Eastern Pennsylvania is voting, skipping Western Pennsylvania is voting in a way they never had the working class.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be getting overvoting in some of the white working class rural areas in Pennsylvania, and that translates to Ohio.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we had in the last decade, Rehava.
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[UNKNOWN]: kind of established Ohio as not the swing state that it once put a time was, it's red.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, JD Vance and Mike Duane and Donald Trump and some of the others, I mean, it's a working class coalition and it no where did we advantage ourselves like Ohio?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think Ohio flips.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think and think of this now, you stay as the incumbent.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's hard to be an incumbent.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's real hard to be an incumbent at a swing state.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if the election were today, I'm concerned that the incumbent, the Republican incumbent and Ohio would lose.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's a bail weather race to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: And look, I am well aware of all we've heard over the year since Trump's been to the White House.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's terrible for the party.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to put things into play that don't normally, and then the polls say that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But those polls didn't never, they never aligned with my instinct or my good.
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[UNKNOWN]: They seem to nail.
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[UNKNOWN]: that the poll suggests the way I feel when the poll said Jimmy Harris is going to beat Lindsey Graham I chuckled because there was nothing about my political instinct that says that that's crazy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that there's, that's how much this is the war.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I mean, that's all of the war.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is all about the war.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you can sit someone down and explain why Trump made the right decision.
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[UNKNOWN]: But nobody's going to sit down and listen to you.
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[UNKNOWN]: 80% of working class Americans, let me say that again, 80% of working class Americans believe that Iran war was a mistake.
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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't mean it was a mistake.
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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't mean it's not complicated, but we've gotten an election a month from now.
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[UNKNOWN]: And 80% believe the biggest decision the president has made ever made was the biggest mistake he's ever made.
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[UNKNOWN]: you can't put that genie back in a bottle.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's where we find our sales.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the home.
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[UNKNOWN]: So much there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Ellis in Florence.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good morning, Ellis.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're on the air.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hi.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good morning, guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: I should try to take it back off what you guys are talking about.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, so I've, so I've, I've been following this for just a while too.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, and the thing about, and I'm, I'm sure you guys, you guys
01:00:04.428 --> 01:00:08.451
[UNKNOWN]: they almost never favor the Republican.
01:00:08.851 --> 01:00:29.465
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I even recently, I think it was Jake Tapper and CNN and then, or somebody on CNN then, and I know they had to bust a blood vessel when they had to report that, you know, in since he got elected as Maca voters, you know, he had like a 99 approval rate,
01:00:34.144 --> 01:00:36.366
[UNKNOWN]: And it's only gone down since the war started.
01:00:36.386 --> 01:00:38.628
[UNKNOWN]: It's only going down by like one point.
01:00:39.068 --> 01:00:49.936
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, we're still, so it's like, in spite of the war and spite of, you know, the whole Epstein thing or whatever, you know, we're still behind this man.
01:00:49.976 --> 01:00:59.463
[UNKNOWN]: Do we, that's an agree with everything he's doing and how he's doing it now, but we still, but obviously it hasn't really changed much of anything
01:01:02.664 --> 01:01:06.087
[UNKNOWN]: on politics in general, because that whole game has changed.
01:01:06.227 --> 01:01:11.852
[UNKNOWN]: And as far as the war itself, his screens like things are starting to work now, you know?
01:01:11.972 --> 01:01:14.814
[UNKNOWN]: His suit is crude oil, I think is what?
01:01:14.914 --> 01:01:22.200
[UNKNOWN]: Like $90 a barrel or something like that, which is down from 107 just to just a week, just a couple weeks ago, whatever.
01:01:22.700 --> 01:01:30.006
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we got the reeks, we got the guard, rails coming up for artificial intelligence,
01:01:31.270 --> 01:01:54.115
[UNKNOWN]: As far as that's concerned, the only thing is about that I'm worried about is if someone on the way, they talk about not putting the funding for the companies so much as to putting it on making it a taxpayer pay for it as a loan guarantee, but that's a whole other matter entirely.
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[UNKNOWN]: But my point is, I'm
01:01:56.670 --> 01:02:08.398
[UNKNOWN]: I think as long as people go out to those, only the Maca voters go out to vote, the way they did when he was on the ballot two years ago, I think we win.
01:02:08.578 --> 01:02:13.021
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, might lose the house or not, but I think we win.
01:02:13.561 --> 01:02:18.744
[UNKNOWN]: And if so, I think that we're gonna see things, because he's already doing an amazing job.
01:02:19.805 --> 01:02:23.848
[UNKNOWN]: And so I think with these last two years, he's gonna, we're gonna see things come out
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[UNKNOWN]: it's going to solidify his legacy is arguably the best president ever so there's that thank you for your time guys thank you sir appreciate that um i mean i don't disagree with the premise of maga is still with him nobody else is i'm that's the problem in a general maga is with him i'm in it there's no can i i'm with him
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[UNKNOWN]: I think revs withing, I mean, I am a mega Republican.
01:02:47.075 --> 01:02:48.317
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going down with the ship.
01:02:48.858 --> 01:02:52.024
[UNKNOWN]: If we lose in November, I'll be a loser.
01:02:52.685 --> 01:02:54.569
[UNKNOWN]: But nobody else is withing.
01:02:55.495 --> 01:02:56.135
[UNKNOWN]: That's unfair.
01:02:56.296 --> 01:02:56.996
[UNKNOWN]: That's inaccurate.
01:02:57.937 --> 01:03:01.479
[UNKNOWN]: Some others are with him, but maga can't win promiries.
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:03.720
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, excuse me, maga can't win generals.
01:03:04.401 --> 01:03:04.921
[UNKNOWN]: Just can't.
01:03:05.481 --> 01:03:06.742
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there aren't enough of us.
01:03:07.162 --> 01:03:08.643
[UNKNOWN]: The caller's a maga Republican.
01:03:09.044 --> 01:03:10.224
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a maga Republican.
01:03:10.484 --> 01:03:13.446
[UNKNOWN]: The caller believes I ran is beginning to sort itself out.
01:03:13.586 --> 01:03:13.947
[UNKNOWN]: I don't.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there's some disagreement there within maga, but the disagreement doesn't prohibit us from being on the same team.
01:03:20.271 --> 01:03:20.531
[UNKNOWN]: We're going
01:03:24.781 --> 01:03:29.164
[UNKNOWN]: But he's losing a lot of steam with a lot of other demographics.
01:03:29.924 --> 01:03:31.646
[UNKNOWN]: And you can't win a general.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that you can win a general in South Carolina, but just maga.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that you can win a general with just maga anywhere in America.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, maga is a forced Azure in South Carolina.
01:03:45.074 --> 01:03:50.618
[UNKNOWN]: But if you have maga and maga alone, you can win a primary, but you can't win a general.
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[UNKNOWN]: If Darlene Graham Nordone has 100% of Magavoters, but doesn't have a majority of anybody else she loses.
01:04:01.581 --> 01:04:02.482
[UNKNOWN]: That's just where we are.
01:04:03.402 --> 01:04:05.123
[UNKNOWN]: Ohio is even riskier.
01:04:06.024 --> 01:04:07.225
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know the numbers.
01:04:07.245 --> 01:04:08.225
[UNKNOWN]: I've asked, I hate this.
01:04:08.325 --> 01:04:14.229
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, what are the demo in Magavurses everybody else in South Carolina compared to Texas?
01:04:15.390 --> 01:04:18.331
[UNKNOWN]: Cause Texas, if Texas goes blue,
01:04:19.373 --> 01:04:39.928
[UNKNOWN]: Then the last 10 years of our political existence has been, I don't want to say for not, that's unfair, been a hell of a ride, it's been a crazy time, and there have been a lot of good things doing, but the caller's misestimation as far as I'm concerned is believing because magas with him were going to win in November, maga being with him.
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[UNKNOWN]: It enough to win in November, no way in the country.
01:04:46.140 --> 01:04:50.642
[UNKNOWN]: You can't win with Magga any way or in America in November.
01:04:51.242 --> 01:04:53.623
[UNKNOWN]: You got to have others come along.
01:04:53.763 --> 01:04:54.804
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the phone, someone's there.
01:04:55.144 --> 01:04:56.684
[UNKNOWN]: Mike and Arlington, the little Mike.
01:04:58.225 --> 01:05:02.687
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I just like to make a comment on voting there.
01:05:02.727 --> 01:05:08.049
[UNKNOWN]: I think you pretty much write that Georgia and North Carolina is pretty much a wash.
01:05:08.881 --> 01:05:13.702
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know that much about Ohio, but we're in trouble.
01:05:14.402 --> 01:05:14.943
[UNKNOWN]: We're in trouble.
01:05:15.103 --> 01:05:17.603
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it doesn't look like a fun party.
01:05:19.484 --> 01:05:25.385
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is, these people that are not going to vote, I'm going to sit it out and everything.
01:05:25.825 --> 01:05:32.027
[UNKNOWN]: I think there are analogous to there was a fourth serving in the parable of the talents.
01:05:33.195 --> 01:05:39.780
[UNKNOWN]: And instead of burying his talent, he hired a ship went out and threw it in the ocean.
01:05:40.900 --> 01:05:47.004
[UNKNOWN]: What would that, that's what that's analogous to, because it's very valuable.
01:05:47.565 --> 01:05:55.750
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're sitting it out, you're wasting something that is without value.
01:05:56.030 --> 01:05:58.052
[UNKNOWN]: You're losing part of your soul if you don't
01:05:59.485 --> 01:06:16.414
[UNKNOWN]: And that's all there is to it, but these guys, we've got something cut out for us to try and convince these young guys and more, and the thing that worries me even more is these older people that will sit on their hands.
01:06:16.474 --> 01:06:23.739
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of Christian voters, good Christian people that sit on their hands and elections over and over.
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.980
[UNKNOWN]: And I'd like to make a comment about this historical
01:06:29.222 --> 01:06:50.624
[UNKNOWN]: and Jimmy Carter's time, he managed to get treasures up to almost 16%, I think 15% is the highest, I saw, and mortgages on houses were like 16, 17, 18%, and he tried to think about affordability in that situation.
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[UNKNOWN]: Of course,
01:06:52.409 --> 01:06:53.069
[UNKNOWN]: Carter.
01:06:53.249 --> 01:06:55.290
[UNKNOWN]: Crushed, crushed, totally.
01:06:55.610 --> 01:07:15.078
[UNKNOWN]: But he was not a Trump and with somehow another, we got to convince people that we've got to inform people that if they don't like the affordability numbers now, they sure won't like them when you get a bunch of Democrats in control.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Mark, appreciate it.
01:07:16.948 --> 01:07:20.370
[UNKNOWN]: Eight, four, three, six, six, one, oh, nine, three, seven, the number.
01:07:21.371 --> 01:07:29.096
[UNKNOWN]: The one thing that we're failing to understand is the Trump voter in the Midwest and all over the country.
01:07:29.116 --> 01:07:32.919
[UNKNOWN]: I remember the real Trump voter, the historic Democrat.
01:07:32.979 --> 01:07:34.100
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're right.
01:07:35.089 --> 01:07:37.811
[UNKNOWN]: non-educated or, well, well, well, I've done something fair.
01:07:37.831 --> 01:07:38.791
[UNKNOWN]: I've been a non-educated.
01:07:38.831 --> 01:07:40.212
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, non-college.
01:07:40.753 --> 01:07:45.776
[UNKNOWN]: I'm at the white, rural, non-college voter have historically favored the Democrat.
01:07:46.816 --> 01:07:51.920
[UNKNOWN]: Non-inbig numbers, but by small percentage, the white, non-college, rural voter.
01:07:52.520 --> 01:07:53.661
[UNKNOWN]: And Trump changed that.
01:07:54.441 --> 01:07:59.524
[UNKNOWN]: But what if we always said, Rehab, they're not about ideology, they're not about ideology.
01:07:59.905 --> 01:08:03.467
[UNKNOWN]: They voted for Trump, but they didn't all of a sudden go rush out and subscribe to the Wall Street Journal.
01:08:05.019 --> 01:08:10.141
[UNKNOWN]: their faith was in Trump and they feel Trump has let them down.
01:08:11.322 --> 01:08:13.903
[UNKNOWN]: That's a human emotion, but it's powerful.
01:08:14.703 --> 01:08:18.124
[UNKNOWN]: It is a, what is the best, what is the best thing about populism?
01:08:19.045 --> 01:08:20.125
[UNKNOWN]: It's hard to slow it down.
01:08:21.005 --> 01:08:22.766
[UNKNOWN]: What is the worst thing about populism?
01:08:23.566 --> 01:08:24.727
[UNKNOWN]: It isn't real coherent.
01:08:26.038 --> 01:08:27.119
[UNKNOWN]: It's loose to goosey.
01:08:27.179 --> 01:08:28.220
[UNKNOWN]: It's all over the place.
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:36.045
[UNKNOWN]: As broad as it burns one day, it can be deemed the other, because those people are not convicted to an ideology.
01:08:36.065 --> 01:08:38.347
[UNKNOWN]: They're not necessarily conservative or liberal.
01:08:38.687 --> 01:08:44.191
[UNKNOWN]: They believe that guy who's going to change the game and to some degree he has.
01:08:44.951 --> 01:08:48.474
[UNKNOWN]: But the one thing he said, you don't have to worry about his foreign wars.
01:08:50.936 --> 01:08:52.197
[UNKNOWN]: And we're in a foreign war.
01:08:53.296 --> 01:08:55.559
[UNKNOWN]: and they feel betrayed.
01:08:56.780 --> 01:08:57.540
[UNKNOWN]: Lock it or not.
01:08:57.821 --> 01:09:00.744
[UNKNOWN]: That's just where a lot of voters find themselves.
01:09:00.824 --> 01:09:02.806
[UNKNOWN]: Take a break, we'll be back in just a few.
01:09:02.946 --> 01:09:08.952
[UNKNOWN]: And you take a snapshot of the American electorate and their opinions of the war in Iran.
01:09:09.733 --> 01:09:12.576
[UNKNOWN]: It's very much, with Iraq as the backdrop.
01:09:13.176 --> 01:09:27.768
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of the voters see Iran, whether it's fair or not, it's political, and we've got midterms, and people are going to vote based on things that may or may not be true, but U.S. troops are leaving the last U.S. basis in Iraq.
01:09:27.808 --> 01:09:40.038
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought it was a bit ironic that a month out from our midterms where you're concluding our efforts in Iraq, five years ready as Jonathan Savage, in London, Jonathan, I don't know that many Americans knew we still had a presence in Iraq,
01:09:43.012 --> 01:09:55.641
[UNKNOWN]: That's absolutely not the case right now, because the Pentagon has just confirmed that the U.S. has completed its military withdrawal from Iraq, the final troops in a moment leaving the Erbil air base in the north of the country.
01:09:55.922 --> 01:10:04.328
[UNKNOWN]: That end what was called Operation Enherent Resolve, a campaign against ISIS that began in 2014.
01:10:04.748 --> 01:10:09.772
[UNKNOWN]: Of course, for the most part, there has been a significant U.S. military presence in Iraq since
01:10:11.632 --> 01:10:19.136
[UNKNOWN]: that I've seen for three years the U.S. left, but then the appearance of ISIS forced the U.S. to come back.
01:10:19.236 --> 01:10:28.622
[UNKNOWN]: But now there has been what's described as an orderly departure that reflects a campaign which she retold has defeated ISIS as an organ of this military threat.
01:10:29.042 --> 01:10:34.005
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the why not, Jonathan, they believe mission accomplished and no reason to be there any longer.
01:10:35.488 --> 01:10:45.252
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, as not just so much the ISIS has disappeared, they still have cells, it still has little pockets where it can cause problems.
01:10:45.852 --> 01:10:50.134
[UNKNOWN]: However, they believe that Iraq can control ISIS.
01:10:50.714 --> 01:10:53.695
[UNKNOWN]: These are Iraq's security problems this solved.
01:10:53.955 --> 01:10:55.736
[UNKNOWN]: They've been training the Iraqis.
01:10:55.756 --> 01:10:58.377
[UNKNOWN]: They will still provide training and intelligence to the Iraqis.
01:10:58.970 --> 01:11:11.715
[UNKNOWN]: But now this will reduce the number of American troops who are potential vulnerable targets to Iran back groups in the country, but Iraq will have to be responsible for attacking those Iran back groups as well.
01:11:17.937 --> 01:11:25.963
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know at the Pentagon, but I think there is that fear more broadly in the Middle East.
01:11:26.083 --> 01:11:39.713
[UNKNOWN]: Iran does, as we're saying, support, fund, arm, various militias in the Middle East and inerack itself, American individuals and facilities have been attacked more than 600 times.
01:11:41.215 --> 01:11:44.818
[UNKNOWN]: They were attacked more than 600 times between February and April of this year.
01:11:45.578 --> 01:11:52.944
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, this is something which Iran is no doubt celebrating, and Iran's militias are celebrating.
01:11:53.144 --> 01:11:57.208
[UNKNOWN]: They're talking about the expulsion of the defeated occupation forces.
01:11:57.944 --> 01:12:03.528
[UNKNOWN]: So it will leave an opportunity for Iran to try and increase his presence in Iraq and its influence in Iraq.
01:12:03.848 --> 01:12:08.671
[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of these, a lot of that will be done for the, at down to the Iraqi government to confront.
01:12:09.031 --> 01:12:10.132
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the report, Jonathan.
01:12:10.152 --> 01:12:10.752
[UNKNOWN]: Have a great day.
01:12:11.853 --> 01:12:12.433
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, YouTube.
01:12:12.653 --> 01:12:14.615
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there's a, there's a prank phone call.
01:12:14.755 --> 01:12:16.016
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even heard an effy Tommy.
01:12:16.416 --> 01:12:20.999
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, obviously, we can't play it over the air because it's quite colorful, but he prank phone calls people.
01:12:21.904 --> 01:12:27.307
[UNKNOWN]: And he pranked phone call to God one day and said, I see here where you're behind on your child support.
01:12:28.368 --> 01:12:30.649
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy answers a phone and you tell you's a little fiery.
01:12:30.949 --> 01:12:32.790
[UNKNOWN]: And he says, I'm not behind on my child support.
01:12:32.810 --> 01:12:33.711
[UNKNOWN]: They take it out of my check.
01:12:34.111 --> 01:12:36.933
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to take it out of check every month and half of the past 17 years.
01:12:37.573 --> 01:12:39.995
[UNKNOWN]: And he says, well, I mean, I'm just telling you what we're reading here.
01:12:40.015 --> 01:12:43.337
[UNKNOWN]: We're reading here that you're behind and have been behind for a year.
01:12:43.777 --> 01:12:45.938
[UNKNOWN]: And here's what we do when you get that delinquent.
01:12:46.298 --> 01:12:47.899
[UNKNOWN]: We extend the payments from 18 to 21.
01:12:49.822 --> 01:13:05.588
[UNKNOWN]: So you're going to have to pay not only the next six months until your kid turns 18, you're going to pay you know, three years and six months until he turns, and obviously that there's some choice words when he says, but anyway, he says, um, look in that computer, look in that computer again.
01:13:06.548 --> 01:13:11.090
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy says that I quote, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
01:13:12.299 --> 01:13:13.080
[UNKNOWN]: That's a nephew Tommy.
01:13:13.100 --> 01:13:20.768
[UNKNOWN]: I hate to be the bearer of bad news of the guy says well don't be the bearer bad news don't tell me some bull You know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:13:20.808 --> 01:13:24.872
[UNKNOWN]: He goes on and on and anyway I'll take no joy in being the bearer of bad news
01:13:26.220 --> 01:13:30.584
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm telling you guys, there isn't a lot of good news out there if you're Republican.
01:13:31.005 --> 01:13:31.785
[UNKNOWN]: There's just not.
01:13:32.066 --> 01:13:35.289
[UNKNOWN]: Now, could there be a sequence?
01:13:35.929 --> 01:13:37.491
[UNKNOWN]: Here's the best thing we can hope for.
01:13:37.651 --> 01:13:37.991
[UNKNOWN]: You're ready?
01:13:38.352 --> 01:13:41.595
[UNKNOWN]: Because I don't think we can fix what's broken in the next month.
01:13:42.075 --> 01:13:42.596
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't.
01:13:43.396 --> 01:13:46.419
[UNKNOWN]: I think Iran has the ability to escalate if they choose.
01:13:47.240 --> 01:13:52.041
[UNKNOWN]: And I think once oil, I checked a second ago, oils at 90 bucks, Brent still over 100.
01:13:52.381 --> 01:13:54.181
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the number I pay a lot of attention to.
01:13:54.201 --> 01:13:56.702
[UNKNOWN]: The Brent Spot Prosting is even more expensive than that.
01:13:56.762 --> 01:13:59.242
[UNKNOWN]: We've drawn down some of the global inventories.
01:13:59.262 --> 01:14:01.182
[UNKNOWN]: We've got to replenish that to some degree.
01:14:01.722 --> 01:14:06.863
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't think we can fix that before November.
01:14:08.244 --> 01:14:13.364
[UNKNOWN]: The one thing I guess we can hope for is the posters are wrong, like they have been
01:14:17.437 --> 01:14:26.360
[UNKNOWN]: Trump's approval is at what 38.39% that leads to a blood bath unless Trump's approvals are 38 or 39.
01:14:26.500 --> 01:14:37.605
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if Trump's approvals are 43 or 4, in other words, ray of the national pundits and pollsters are trying to distort to discourage turnout, that's our best hope.
01:14:39.065 --> 01:14:41.906
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to explain to the sign fell watch or the Iran war.
01:14:42.627 --> 01:14:45.988
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to convince the rural non-college watt voter.
01:14:47.117 --> 01:14:48.518
[UNKNOWN]: Why gas is so expensive?
01:14:49.698 --> 01:15:02.664
[UNKNOWN]: But we can, I guess, cross our fingers, hope and pray that posters are doing this time, what they've done says Trump showed up on the scene, and that is overestimate the opposition and underestimate the support.
01:15:03.444 --> 01:15:05.045
[UNKNOWN]: I don't feel that's the case.
01:15:06.125 --> 01:15:08.806
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not that I take any joy and be in the better of bad news.
01:15:09.607 --> 01:15:14.189
[UNKNOWN]: But it seems to me, Reiv, and I'll ask you, it seems to me this is real.
01:15:15.075 --> 01:15:23.278
[UNKNOWN]: The frustration, um, the reality is Trump made a decision to go to warn Iran and it backfired.
01:15:24.218 --> 01:15:28.640
[UNKNOWN]: Now, have we made some progress in containing their enrichment of uranium?
01:15:28.820 --> 01:15:32.241
[UNKNOWN]: I would imagine we have, but that's not going to win the midterm.
01:15:33.418 --> 01:15:42.920
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I know gas is four bucks a gallon, but we've really contained our ransomability to enrich uranium and to potentially have a nuclear weapon.
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:46.341
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, what do you think people are going to vote based on?
01:15:46.361 --> 01:15:54.483
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, do you think people go into the poll and say, gas is four dollars a gallon, but Trump has negated their ability to enrich uranium?
01:15:55.283 --> 01:15:59.384
[UNKNOWN]: Or do you think they're going into the poll and say, and gas is more expensive now than it was when Biden was president?
01:16:01.589 --> 01:16:12.812
[UNKNOWN]: It's a shallow science, I've said that a million times over the show and I think there is a logical way to explain what Trump did what he did.
01:16:13.472 --> 01:16:14.132
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like it.
01:16:14.352 --> 01:16:17.173
[UNKNOWN]: I don't agree with it, but I respect the other side.
01:16:17.993 --> 01:16:22.974
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't think there's any way to and why and what's been done between now and election day.
01:16:23.274 --> 01:16:27.415
[UNKNOWN]: The only hope we've got is, as they've done in years gone by,
01:16:31.056 --> 01:16:33.559
[UNKNOWN]: they're underestimating the support of Trump.
01:16:34.219 --> 01:16:41.426
[UNKNOWN]: But if the numbers are what the numbers are Josh, and it is a proper reflection of where the electorate are today.
01:16:41.907 --> 01:16:43.108
[UNKNOWN]: Is it areas?
01:16:44.049 --> 01:16:44.990
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a rough day.
01:16:45.410 --> 01:16:47.512
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a landslide for Democrats.
01:16:47.932 --> 01:16:50.515
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to have pretty good majorities in the house.
01:16:50.935 --> 01:16:54.219
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to have a three two vote majority in the Senate.
01:16:54.871 --> 01:16:58.875
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to impeach in that and try to remove from office.
01:16:58.975 --> 01:17:01.036
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's just kind of where we're headed.
01:17:02.678 --> 01:17:20.233
[UNKNOWN]: So when your best strategy is hoping all of the posters are wrong, that's a hope and a prayer as far as I'm concerned, but because it's hard to run on the record today, affordability and abstain is at the core of where we find ourselves.
01:17:20.354 --> 01:17:21.755
[UNKNOWN]: Take a break back in a few.
01:17:22.015 --> 01:17:26.438
[UNKNOWN]: We're back eight for three, six, six, one, oh, nine, three, seven, the floor is yours.
01:17:26.598 --> 01:17:27.799
[UNKNOWN]: Call the end with an opinion.
01:17:27.819 --> 01:17:32.062
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, normally generate some buzz when we take on Trump and I guess to some degree.
01:17:32.522 --> 01:17:36.745
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can be with Trump but concerned about what lies ahead.
01:17:37.085 --> 01:17:38.586
[UNKNOWN]: I am a mega Republican.
01:17:38.706 --> 01:17:44.170
[UNKNOWN]: I am no less a mega Republican today than it was the day he rode down the escalator.
01:17:44.190 --> 01:17:45.591
[UNKNOWN]: I had an appetite for that then.
01:17:45.611 --> 01:17:47.672
[UNKNOWN]: I have an appetite for that today.
01:17:48.153 --> 01:17:50.934
[UNKNOWN]: What I am doing is trying to suggest
01:17:52.415 --> 01:18:05.759
[UNKNOWN]: Those who weren't as art it, those who weren't as hardcore, those who weren't as believing in the best path forward for the Republican party, or not on board anymore.
01:18:05.879 --> 01:18:09.320
[UNKNOWN]: And many who were part of the mega base feel betrayed.
01:18:09.400 --> 01:18:15.101
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any idea what they do in November, but their indications rev that they won't vote.
01:18:15.181 --> 01:18:16.402
[UNKNOWN]: And if they don't vote,
01:18:17.123 --> 01:18:18.643
[UNKNOWN]: There's a bloodletting in store.
01:18:18.783 --> 01:18:25.785
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the last hour has been pretty depressing if you're a Republican and you're looking at the, you know, it's gonna happen potentially here in the midterms.
01:18:26.025 --> 01:18:32.007
[UNKNOWN]: But do you see any way, is there anything that can happen that would change, you know, what you're feeling now what the polls are showing now?
01:18:32.047 --> 01:18:36.828
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you know, the thing that could happen would probably be the worst case scenario you're ready?
01:18:37.648 --> 01:18:41.889
[UNKNOWN]: What if I ran killed 25 American service men and women?
01:18:44.370 --> 01:18:45.150
[UNKNOWN]: That could change it.
01:18:46.418 --> 01:18:52.603
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, all of a sudden, Iran is the evil empire that, you know, the neocons of trotic events, says they are.
01:18:52.823 --> 01:19:00.149
[UNKNOWN]: And they may be, I'm not suggesting that Iran is not every bit as evil and a threat to the world as some believe they are.
01:19:00.930 --> 01:19:11.158
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying that secondary to what the cost of energy is, what the cost of groceries is, people don't go to bed at night worrying about Iran having a nuclear bomb.
01:19:12.085 --> 01:19:19.188
[UNKNOWN]: They go to bid it, not worried about whether they could afford gas and groceries and insurance and all these other sorts of things.
01:19:19.668 --> 01:19:22.610
[UNKNOWN]: And we're not addressing that in any way, shape or form.
01:19:24.210 --> 01:19:27.532
[UNKNOWN]: The best hope we have right now is the polls around.
01:19:28.912 --> 01:19:34.954
[UNKNOWN]: And they've been wrong a lot, but Trump, that they're overestimating his opposition underestimating his support.
01:19:35.314 --> 01:19:44.356
[UNKNOWN]: If that's the case, we win Texas, we may win in Ohio, we'll win in Iowa, we're not going to win in North Carolina.
01:19:44.416 --> 01:19:48.237
[UNKNOWN]: There's not a poll out there good enough for him to win North Carolina.
01:19:48.457 --> 01:19:50.257
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that says to him, Roy Cooper's a good candidate.
01:19:50.598 --> 01:19:51.818
[UNKNOWN]: North Carolina is a purple state.
01:19:52.058 --> 01:19:54.599
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to win that Osloff going to win in Georgia.
01:19:56.432 --> 01:20:00.813
[UNKNOWN]: for some crazy reason, I think Susan Collins wins in Maine.
01:20:01.333 --> 01:20:08.074
[UNKNOWN]: And if anybody should lose with all these headwinds, it's Susan Collins, because Maine's not a red state.
01:20:08.374 --> 01:20:15.656
[UNKNOWN]: But she has built this brand in Maine, and she's cultivated a lot of relationships, since she may know how to count votes.
01:20:15.936 --> 01:20:18.537
[UNKNOWN]: I'll just say that, because in Maine there aren't a lot of votes.
01:20:19.057 --> 01:20:25.278
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, Rev, if I ran word of pre-implively attack, a naval fleet of the Persian Gulf,
01:20:26.523 --> 01:20:30.827
[UNKNOWN]: And all of a sudden, American say, hey, those are ratings and more dangerous than I thought they were.
01:20:31.628 --> 01:20:33.190
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're killing our soldiers.
01:20:33.230 --> 01:20:34.832
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but that could flip the pair down.
01:20:34.852 --> 01:20:38.596
[UNKNOWN]: That could be kind of the game changer between here and there.
01:20:39.336 --> 01:20:41.859
[UNKNOWN]: But I ran you and I were talking to you in the break.
01:20:42.660 --> 01:20:43.581
[UNKNOWN]: Here's how I see it.
01:20:43.641 --> 01:20:45.022
[UNKNOWN]: And once again, I don't work at the Pentagon.
01:20:45.423 --> 01:20:46.464
[UNKNOWN]: I don't work at the guy, EA.
01:20:46.564 --> 01:20:47.204
[UNKNOWN]: I don't work at.
01:20:47.345 --> 01:20:49.507
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm a guy with the ready to show in a bunch of opinions.
01:20:50.802 --> 01:20:59.865
[UNKNOWN]: I believe that right now the caller called what thirty forty five minutes ago and said the price of oil is beginning to come down.
01:21:00.405 --> 01:21:05.067
[UNKNOWN]: It is why why is the price of oil going from a hundred dollars a barrel to ninety.
01:21:05.167 --> 01:21:08.388
[UNKNOWN]: Now, Brent still over a hundred, but but Josh, help me here, ref help me here.
01:21:08.748 --> 01:21:12.229
[UNKNOWN]: Why do you think that oil has gone from a hundred to ninety dollars a barrel?
01:21:13.630 --> 01:21:15.010
[UNKNOWN]: It's more oil getting through the street.
01:21:15.931 --> 01:21:16.311
[UNKNOWN]: Correct.
01:21:16.471 --> 01:21:17.011
[UNKNOWN]: Why is that?
01:21:18.428 --> 01:21:23.514
[UNKNOWN]: why is there more oil coming to market through the straight of our moves than there was three weeks ago.
01:21:25.316 --> 01:21:30.721
[UNKNOWN]: I hate to say it this way because I ran as letting it bingo you nailed it if that man is cigar.
01:21:31.182 --> 01:21:32.884
[UNKNOWN]: I ran his aside and I'd ask a light.
01:21:34.025 --> 01:21:36.948
[UNKNOWN]: You let oil get 80 bucks a barrel and gas go to $2.99.
01:21:36.988 --> 01:21:38.150
[UNKNOWN]: And what will I run into, Josh?
01:21:38.490 --> 01:21:39.131
[UNKNOWN]: They'll ask a light.
01:21:40.025 --> 01:21:44.328
[UNKNOWN]: They'll attack a tanker, they'll attack a pipeline, and oil will do what?
01:21:44.668 --> 01:21:47.129
[UNKNOWN]: Go back to 100 bucks of barrel, and gas will do what?
01:21:47.250 --> 01:21:48.310
[UNKNOWN]: Go back to four bucks of barrel.
01:21:50.291 --> 01:22:08.503
[UNKNOWN]: And they'll escalate whether we initiate or preempted anything or not, because once again, I believe not the Pentagon, not not Fox News, I believe that right now Iran has more of the cards, hold more of the cards, because they know we don't have an appetite to invade their country.
01:22:10.001 --> 01:22:11.782
[UNKNOWN]: and they're going to watch the oil markets.
01:22:11.802 --> 01:22:13.103
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to watch the process of gas.
01:22:13.423 --> 01:22:14.763
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to lead up to the elections.
01:22:15.024 --> 01:22:16.524
[UNKNOWN]: You're asking that kind of an interesting point.
01:22:16.544 --> 01:22:27.190
[UNKNOWN]: And I've heard this, what about when a bomb was president and oil was $100 a barrel and gas is only $3.29 or $39.29 are the oil companies playing a game?
01:22:27.670 --> 01:22:29.191
[UNKNOWN]: Why would the oil companies not want Trump?
01:22:30.082 --> 01:22:33.263
[UNKNOWN]: But there's nobody been more fossil fuel friendly than Trump, right?
01:22:34.143 --> 01:22:37.144
[UNKNOWN]: The reason it's different is there's an actual shortage.
01:22:37.784 --> 01:22:39.384
[UNKNOWN]: We're having to draw down on surpluses.
01:22:39.984 --> 01:22:49.206
[UNKNOWN]: When Obama said that we're going to, you know, the big new green energy deal and the global economies going to be decarbonized and then Biden kind of doubled down on that.
01:22:49.226 --> 01:22:51.127
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was a bunch of political speak.
01:22:52.020 --> 01:22:53.341
[UNKNOWN]: and it was a political agenda.
01:22:54.062 --> 01:23:00.687
[UNKNOWN]: And there was a what a program or a platform that Democrats were running on to win us all fossil fuel.
01:23:01.047 --> 01:23:02.868
[UNKNOWN]: But there was no short of supply.
01:23:03.589 --> 01:23:05.510
[UNKNOWN]: We're dealing with an actual short supply now.
01:23:06.331 --> 01:23:07.572
[UNKNOWN]: And I have been since February.
01:23:08.152 --> 01:23:10.254
[UNKNOWN]: And we've drawn that we've raw from Peter to PayPal.
01:23:11.558 --> 01:23:12.539
[UNKNOWN]: to make all of this work.
01:23:13.339 --> 01:23:17.082
[UNKNOWN]: And the markets know that there is a day of reckoning.
01:23:17.322 --> 01:23:19.123
[UNKNOWN]: We can't continue to go down that road.
01:23:19.403 --> 01:23:22.686
[UNKNOWN]: When Obama says, we're going to decarbonize our economy.
01:23:23.106 --> 01:23:26.348
[UNKNOWN]: I think the board room in Exxon goes, that's not to anybody knows it.
01:23:27.009 --> 01:23:32.112
[UNKNOWN]: But when the board room in Exxon meets Rav, they say, OK, what is our supply to main correlation?
01:23:32.893 --> 01:23:38.077
[UNKNOWN]: And somebody in the room who knows much more than I say, we're consuming more oil than we're producing.
01:23:38.897 --> 01:23:39.877
[UNKNOWN]: That's a reality.
01:23:39.897 --> 01:23:45.639
[UNKNOWN]: That's not a kind of a hypothesis or that's not some, you know, geopolitics in the abstract.
01:23:45.679 --> 01:23:47.119
[UNKNOWN]: That's a reality.
01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:49.960
[UNKNOWN]: The oil, we need a hundred million barrels of oil a day.
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:55.701
[UNKNOWN]: And somebody in the Exxon boardroom says, only 89 million barrels made it to market last week.
01:23:56.241 --> 01:23:57.522
[UNKNOWN]: Only 87 excuse me.
01:23:57.542 --> 01:23:59.802
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever the day is, I'm 700 million.
01:24:00.222 --> 01:24:01.783
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we have weekly updates.
01:24:01.863 --> 01:24:06.084
[UNKNOWN]: If we need 700 million barrels of oil and only 620 million barrels made it to market.
01:24:06.857 --> 01:24:07.758
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's going to be a court.
01:24:07.778 --> 01:24:22.827
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's going to be an impact on processing, but if we're getting 100 million barrels rev and we're consuming 100 million and Obama or Biden say something negative toward fossil fuels, I'm at the market reacts, but it's not a reality.
01:24:23.187 --> 01:24:27.310
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of a futuristic way of pricing in what these nuts may do.
01:24:28.997 --> 01:24:39.127
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I remember when and I can't think of the guy's name he's from California and he was an Asian American and Obama put him in charge of EPA and oil went up like eight bucks a barrel in two days.
01:24:40.228 --> 01:24:42.770
[UNKNOWN]: No supply disruption, no overconsumption.
01:24:43.311 --> 01:24:46.554
[UNKNOWN]: It was just Biden put a nut, I was going to be Obama put a zealot.
01:24:47.054 --> 01:24:52.480
[UNKNOWN]: You know, a environmental zealot in a role that has a lot to do with the regularity of the old industry.
01:24:53.322 --> 01:24:57.047
[UNKNOWN]: But some Republicans probably called over to Exxon and said, we can take care of this.
01:24:57.067 --> 01:25:00.491
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, they can't do but so much at the executive level.
01:25:02.533 --> 01:25:09.762
[UNKNOWN]: So that's why there's a kind of a different price of gas at the same price of oil.
01:25:10.182 --> 01:25:12.004
[UNKNOWN]: It's not just that single number.
01:25:12.892 --> 01:25:21.516
[UNKNOWN]: Because if it were a rev and Obama said something dangerous to the fossil fuel industry, it, you know, the process of gas would go up with those people that are smart.
01:25:21.957 --> 01:25:27.359
[UNKNOWN]: And they know that whatever Obama says, he can't do single handedly, he can't do, you know, laterally.
01:25:27.699 --> 01:25:31.621
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's got a lot of help in, and they know, I mean, they've written enough checks to Republicans.
01:25:32.422 --> 01:25:40.206
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, in some Democrats, they know that, you know, when the time comes to block some executive agenda regarding fossil fuels, they'll be able to do that.
01:25:42.887 --> 01:25:45.308
[UNKNOWN]: heavily invested in our political system.
01:25:45.608 --> 01:25:46.689
[UNKNOWN]: And they've gotten a lot of favor.
01:25:47.989 --> 01:25:54.272
[UNKNOWN]: You know, a lot of my Democrat friends, what's I call reasonable Democrats in mind, they say that we've oversubsed at some of the old industry.
01:25:54.792 --> 01:25:56.233
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that I fully disagree with that.
01:25:56.793 --> 01:25:58.734
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think there's some merit to that conversation.
01:25:59.054 --> 01:26:00.515
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's legitimate to debate.
01:26:00.975 --> 01:26:02.456
[UNKNOWN]: Have the oil companies bolt.
01:26:03.683 --> 01:26:14.246
[UNKNOWN]: You know, blocking some of the more renewable and efficient ways to generate energy probably to some degree, but they're in the old business that they're not in the Patriotism business.
01:26:14.847 --> 01:26:17.688
[UNKNOWN]: That's the one thing a lot of Americans have a hard time understanding.
01:26:18.668 --> 01:26:19.828
[UNKNOWN]: And it's because you don't lobby.
01:26:19.868 --> 01:26:20.669
[UNKNOWN]: You don't write checks.
01:26:20.689 --> 01:26:21.489
[UNKNOWN]: You don't take checks.
01:26:22.029 --> 01:26:22.649
[UNKNOWN]: It's a game.
01:26:22.709 --> 01:26:23.449
[UNKNOWN]: It's a scheme.
01:26:24.690 --> 01:26:27.891
[UNKNOWN]: Why did the protect college sports act past?
01:26:28.911 --> 01:26:31.012
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we talked a lot about the early parts of our shows.
01:26:32.353 --> 01:26:34.734
[UNKNOWN]: John Thune has done nothing to help Trump.
01:26:36.354 --> 01:26:38.735
[UNKNOWN]: But Thune was able to get that protect college sports act past.
01:26:39.615 --> 01:26:41.916
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to let it come to a vote.
01:26:41.956 --> 01:26:44.497
[UNKNOWN]: He rallied some of the Republican members.
01:26:44.617 --> 01:26:49.238
[UNKNOWN]: John Thune, if I'm not mistaken, Reaver, there are no home to this number.
01:26:49.758 --> 01:26:56.100
[UNKNOWN]: There are roughly 700 bills the house has passed that are heavily mega.
01:27:00.305 --> 01:27:05.828
[UNKNOWN]: and food that let those bills see the lot of day because he didn't believe in the Trump agenda.
01:27:05.848 --> 01:27:07.549
[UNKNOWN]: He's not a maga Republican.
01:27:07.589 --> 01:27:24.719
[UNKNOWN]: I read this that since the poll came out through the Trafalgar poll that has darling Graham Nordone, what a point or two ahead of any Andrews, Dr. and Andrews, I'm sorry, they're going to send John Thund to South Carolina.
01:27:26.179 --> 01:27:27.120
[UNKNOWN]: He's the majority leader.
01:27:28.702 --> 01:27:37.764
[UNKNOWN]: Vincent James, a friend of mine, and Vincent ran for governor twice as a Democrat, and he would have Biden come, or he'd have Pelosi come.
01:27:37.804 --> 01:27:40.505
[UNKNOWN]: And I remember till in Vincent, they hurt you more than they help you.
01:27:41.065 --> 01:27:52.488
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I understand it unlocked some of the yam, some of the national funds want fundraising efforts of the Democrats, but you can't raise enough money in South Carolina for Nancy Pelosi to be worth it.
01:27:53.208 --> 01:27:57.309
[UNKNOWN]: Biden may be a little bit different in his older days, you know, when Biden was considered
01:27:59.286 --> 01:28:01.507
[UNKNOWN]: Northeastern liberal Democrat.
01:28:01.527 --> 01:28:05.350
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that, you know, but Biden took the debate and drifted far to the left.
01:28:05.370 --> 01:28:09.653
[UNKNOWN]: It became one of these Obama accolades to some degree.
01:28:10.513 --> 01:28:11.534
[UNKNOWN]: I just never understood it.
01:28:11.554 --> 01:28:14.436
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't understand why Republicans believe John food.
01:28:14.476 --> 01:28:17.378
[UNKNOWN]: I'll ask, Drew this tomorrow, who believes that's good idea?
01:28:18.719 --> 01:28:25.283
[UNKNOWN]: Because John Thune has done everything in his power to make sure Trump's agenda, doesn't see the lot of day in the Senate.
01:28:26.202 --> 01:28:35.069
[UNKNOWN]: And darling, Graham Nordone may or may not be in a contested race, well, we know it's contested, but closely contested race.
01:28:35.670 --> 01:28:39.333
[UNKNOWN]: And they're going to bring John Thun to South Carolina.
01:28:39.933 --> 01:28:48.400
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, ABC News forward, it's Barbara's report and that today 16 hours ago, they put a post up, mere days after a poll indicated.
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:58.322
[UNKNOWN]: that Republican Senator Darling Graham and Democrat challenger Annie Andrews were in the neck and neck race in a majority leader John Thun confirmed that he plans to visit the Palmetto State.
01:28:58.662 --> 01:29:00.042
[UNKNOWN]: How tone deaf are you?
01:29:02.242 --> 01:29:04.743
[UNKNOWN]: We want the MAGA agenda passed.
01:29:07.003 --> 01:29:10.224
[UNKNOWN]: You decided to pass the protect college sports out, you and Teddy Paul game.
01:29:11.884 --> 01:29:16.305
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, to take care of who college athletes, college coaches, colleges in general, no,
01:29:19.112 --> 01:29:21.474
[UNKNOWN]: Disney and Paramount Scott dance.
01:29:22.054 --> 01:29:22.355
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
01:29:22.635 --> 01:29:23.936
[UNKNOWN]: Because they write the big checks.
01:29:25.137 --> 01:29:26.098
[UNKNOWN]: Disney spent 1.7 million.
01:29:28.410 --> 01:29:34.134
[UNKNOWN]: Paramount Scotty spent 1.5 million and was on through in a nifty couple of me and Bugs Rev.
01:29:34.154 --> 01:29:34.394
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
01:29:34.675 --> 01:29:36.696
[UNKNOWN]: Because they want to broadcast some basketball games.
01:29:37.277 --> 01:29:40.479
[UNKNOWN]: They want to get out on some of the sports and entertainment activity.
01:29:40.499 --> 01:29:46.584
[UNKNOWN]: And they got enough money to toy around with some of these sectors of our economy.
01:29:47.004 --> 01:29:51.948
[UNKNOWN]: It's frustrated to me and John Thoom's not the answer.
01:29:52.568 --> 01:29:59.652
[UNKNOWN]: Trust me, John Thunes in no way, shape or form going to help darling Graham nor don't in South Carolina.
01:29:59.672 --> 01:30:09.558
[UNKNOWN]: When we come back after the break Josh, I want to go down a road with you and I guess our listeners as well, was anybody offended.
01:30:11.330 --> 01:30:27.745
[UNKNOWN]: and what Shelby foot yet said yesterday, if you try to translate that into today's world, because to me, there's similarities, Josh, and what Shelby foot said, and what you young Republican say about your country.
01:30:30.288 --> 01:30:42.018
[UNKNOWN]: And, and shall be full it, I think Ken Burns believed shall be full it would do what most mid-Aid's white guys do, and admit his transgression, right Josh?
01:30:42.678 --> 01:30:46.081
[UNKNOWN]: And say there's no way I would have followed the Confederacy of the Confederacy was supported slavery.
01:30:46.902 --> 01:30:48.183
[UNKNOWN]: But that's what Ken Burns thought.
01:30:49.004 --> 01:30:50.945
[UNKNOWN]: She'll be full it's a smart guy, he's an educated guy.
01:30:51.265 --> 01:30:56.230
[UNKNOWN]: I know he's a Southern man, but surely he sees the eels of the deep south.
01:30:56.670 --> 01:30:58.952
[UNKNOWN]: And she'll be full it said, I would have followed my people.
01:31:00.365 --> 01:31:07.306
[UNKNOWN]: not in the support slavery, but, you know, the things that the South hell nearing there, um, cessation from the Union, state trots.
01:31:08.026 --> 01:31:26.310
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and I think Ken Burns, is, to me, there's a lot of comparison to what Shelby Flitz said then, and the way young Republicans feel today, because we have yesterday, you and I agreed that the one thing that Josh and his generation are dealing with, that you and I did not, is out of control inflation.
01:31:27.348 --> 01:31:28.369
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the data point.
01:31:28.909 --> 01:31:36.153
[UNKNOWN]: But if you want to go to the data point that breeds the discontent and frustration, it is wages compared to inflation.
01:31:36.974 --> 01:31:44.198
[UNKNOWN]: The dollar Josh earns as a mid-20 year old, doesn't go anywhere near as far as the dollar you and I earned as a mid-20 year old.
01:31:44.658 --> 01:31:49.000
[UNKNOWN]: Now, every generation of young people complain and whine and, and I've been, we all do that.
01:31:49.080 --> 01:31:58.244
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we did, they do, we've had it tougher, they've had it tougher, we didn't have it as good, they didn't have it as good, you know, we had to do this, they had to do this, but, but in React, that's the data point.
01:31:58.825 --> 01:32:07.909
[UNKNOWN]: The other thing that Josh's generation has had to do that you and I did, because I went back and looked at the numbers in 1980 about 5% of this country were foreign born.
01:32:09.246 --> 01:32:11.887
[UNKNOWN]: Today 20% of the country is foreign born.
01:32:12.407 --> 01:32:15.649
[UNKNOWN]: When I was a kid going to the grocery store, everybody spoke English.
01:32:16.969 --> 01:32:20.431
[UNKNOWN]: You go to a grocery store on Friday afternoon after pay day.
01:32:21.831 --> 01:32:23.692
[UNKNOWN]: It's like an experience in multiculturalism.
01:32:24.653 --> 01:32:29.455
[UNKNOWN]: And those two things are breeding a hot level of discontent.
01:32:30.430 --> 01:32:33.931
[UNKNOWN]: almost in particular, young white males.
01:32:34.151 --> 01:32:36.512
[UNKNOWN]: I want to go down that road with Josh on the other side.
01:32:36.832 --> 01:32:39.913
[UNKNOWN]: We're back, eight, four, three, six, six, one, oh, nine, three, seven.
01:32:39.933 --> 01:32:45.274
[UNKNOWN]: And one of the discussions we had yesterday when Dr. Bolt was here is the talk about the Civil War.
01:32:45.714 --> 01:32:46.814
[UNKNOWN]: And I see it, Rev.
01:32:46.854 --> 01:32:52.136
[UNKNOWN]: Josh Bolt, a couple of other friends of mine, an excerpt from Shelby Foot.
01:32:52.816 --> 01:33:01.222
[UNKNOWN]: Shelby's a southern author devoted the majority of rev the last 30 years of his life, the chronicling the Civil War.
01:33:01.982 --> 01:33:16.752
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, when in a great length and great detail, I think I had some pushback yesterday on a call respectfully, and I don't think the person insulted me, but they suggested that maybe I'm trying to give the Confederacy more benefit of the doubt than it deserves.
01:33:17.665 --> 01:33:28.691
[UNKNOWN]: I probably would tend to because I'm a Southern boy and, you know, when Patton said that no American, as Americans don't know what it feels like to lose a war.
01:33:29.111 --> 01:33:31.853
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if you're a Southerner, you lost a war.
01:33:32.053 --> 01:33:39.397
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to North beat the South and the Civil War and historians, if for the most part, said, this was all about slavery.
01:33:40.468 --> 01:33:47.916
[UNKNOWN]: And when you dig into it, 90% of the people fighting for the Confederacy had one thing in government, they did own slaves.
01:33:48.757 --> 01:33:55.124
[UNKNOWN]: So, I mean, I'm not doubted the plantation owner and the grand economy and the business and the commerce and the cotton and all that.
01:33:55.164 --> 01:33:55.965
[UNKNOWN]: The international trade.
01:33:56.005 --> 01:33:57.766
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not arguing none of that was about slavery.
01:33:58.047 --> 01:33:58.948
[UNKNOWN]: Of course it was.
01:34:00.128 --> 01:34:02.009
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's the money part of this, right?
01:34:02.389 --> 01:34:04.030
[UNKNOWN]: Money's the answer now was the question.
01:34:04.270 --> 01:34:06.090
[UNKNOWN]: You're talking about buying and selling human beings.
01:34:06.531 --> 01:34:08.271
[UNKNOWN]: Well, money's the answer now was the question.
01:34:08.531 --> 01:34:13.193
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not defending the transatlantic slave trade by any stretch of the imagination.
01:34:13.474 --> 01:34:16.055
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's one of the greatest examples of human indecency.
01:34:16.075 --> 01:34:20.697
[UNKNOWN]: There's our country's ever, ever, ever been a part of our own display.
01:34:21.077 --> 01:34:25.298
[UNKNOWN]: But I do think there's an element to the Confederacy that is being, I don't want to say
01:34:29.683 --> 01:34:40.941
[UNKNOWN]: And I've got this crazy idea that at the end of the civil war, not only did a latest Northeastern historians write and chronicle that history, they took it out on the south.
01:34:41.931 --> 01:34:46.535
[UNKNOWN]: The contributions the South made in the Revolutionary War, that they kind of out there's a prostitute.
01:34:46.735 --> 01:34:51.278
[UNKNOWN]: When you're on the wrong side of slavery, not only do you pay now, you even pay back then.
01:34:51.298 --> 01:34:54.801
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's some penalty, there's some back payment here that you owe.
01:34:54.841 --> 01:35:05.109
[UNKNOWN]: And I believe that with every fiber of my being, and I don't think but would mind me saying this, he thinks that may have been the case with some of the elite Northeastern historian.
01:35:05.149 --> 01:35:07.570
[UNKNOWN]: So it's not a defensive slavery.
01:35:07.610 --> 01:35:10.753
[UNKNOWN]: It's certainly not a defensive of the Confederacy fighting on behalf.
01:35:11.353 --> 01:35:11.973
[UNKNOWN]: of slavery.
01:35:12.954 --> 01:35:14.835
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's that it was more complicated than that.
01:35:14.875 --> 01:35:27.140
[UNKNOWN]: That's the only thing I'm arguing and shall be full at Josh, and this is where I play into your narrative, shall be food appears to be comfortable if he's called a nativeist or nationalist.
01:35:28.121 --> 01:35:35.504
[UNKNOWN]: Because Ken Burns at the end of interviewing Shelby Fletz said, Shelby, do you ever thought about what you would have done if you were a lot back then?
01:35:36.365 --> 01:35:38.286
[UNKNOWN]: And in other words, what side you would have followed on?
01:35:38.666 --> 01:35:42.567
[UNKNOWN]: Now, Revan, I've agreed that we would take a hard, so you're not a Southern born.
01:35:42.788 --> 01:35:44.848
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're originally from Cincinnati.
01:35:44.868 --> 01:35:47.630
[UNKNOWN]: So it hits you different than it even hits me.
01:35:47.950 --> 01:35:49.891
[UNKNOWN]: But Shelby Fletz had no reservations.
01:35:50.551 --> 01:35:55.653
[UNKNOWN]: And Josh, why does it lead me down the road to you in some of your cohorts?
01:35:57.594 --> 01:36:00.157
[UNKNOWN]: Because she'll be full it, you said this before.
01:36:01.739 --> 01:36:13.314
[UNKNOWN]: Revenue I have been convinced to not even go near the issue of race, for fear being called a racist, to not even go near the individual that the issue of nativeism, because you don't want to be called a nativeist.
01:36:14.223 --> 01:36:18.185
[UNKNOWN]: Shelby Foot, you know, I'll answer the question and I'll answer this way.
01:36:18.265 --> 01:36:26.949
[UNKNOWN]: I wish I could find an example without the music, but this has a little background music, but I want to play this for the audience and then come back and get Josh's take it.
01:36:27.069 --> 01:36:39.495
[UNKNOWN]: Because I think there's similarities in what Shelby Foot said and the way some of these young conservative Americans feel about immigration, about multiculturalism, about changing
01:36:43.913 --> 01:36:51.459
[UNKNOWN]: And so few people being willing to engage in that debate for fear of being calling, being called a racist or a native.
01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:52.499
[UNKNOWN]: So let's go to Shelby for that.
01:36:52.719 --> 01:36:53.860
[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll come back, ready to Josh?
01:36:54.621 --> 01:36:55.662
[UNKNOWN]: I'm from Mississippi.
01:36:55.702 --> 01:36:58.624
[UNKNOWN]: I would have been on the Confederate side right all wrong.
01:36:59.284 --> 01:37:02.046
[UNKNOWN]: I would have fought with my people.
01:37:03.187 --> 01:37:07.130
[UNKNOWN]: It would have meant the end of my life as I had known it if I fought on the other side.
01:37:07.450 --> 01:37:10.472
[UNKNOWN]: It would have been a false location of everything.
01:37:10.533 --> 01:37:12.274
[UNKNOWN]: I'd live by, even if I opposed it.
01:37:13.474 --> 01:37:20.662
[UNKNOWN]: No matter how much I was opposed to slavery, I still would have fought for the confederacy, not for slavery, but for other things.
01:37:21.243 --> 01:37:23.606
[UNKNOWN]: Such a freedom, just as he sees age from the union.
01:37:24.587 --> 01:37:26.730
[UNKNOWN]: I just think that's such a fascinating sentence.
01:37:28.773 --> 01:37:34.017
[UNKNOWN]: no matter how much I oppose slavery, I would have fought with a Confederacy.
01:37:34.538 --> 01:37:35.379
[UNKNOWN]: Josh, what do you hear?
01:37:35.919 --> 01:37:39.462
[UNKNOWN]: When you hear Shelby Fully, publicly say, I would have fought with a Confederacy.
01:37:39.962 --> 01:37:45.087
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know that's highly in popular, and you know, bolt laughs about the way Kim Burns reacted.
01:37:45.487 --> 01:37:47.269
[UNKNOWN]: His Burns had spent a lot of time with Fully.
01:37:47.913 --> 01:37:54.614
[UNKNOWN]: And he found foot to be smart and it might not be that it's unpopular, but it's certainly politically incorrect.
01:37:54.734 --> 01:37:55.454
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God.
01:37:55.474 --> 01:37:56.054
[UNKNOWN]: Today's world.
01:37:56.074 --> 01:37:56.314
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:56.334 --> 01:38:01.535
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he shall be foot probably didn't get invited to a lot of college campuses to give speeches after he said that.
01:38:02.035 --> 01:38:12.037
[UNKNOWN]: But to me, Josh, when I hear Shelby foot say that, it reminds me of things you and because I read a lot of young people on X and a follow what they say and you're someone more extreme.
01:38:12.057 --> 01:38:14.237
[UNKNOWN]: And I think they do themselves a disservice.
01:38:20.010 --> 01:38:25.074
[UNKNOWN]: and and you argue from a native as perspective on a apologetically is that fair.
01:38:25.874 --> 01:38:26.414
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:38:26.495 --> 01:38:26.815
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:38:27.115 --> 01:38:36.681
[UNKNOWN]: So when when you hear Shelby foot speak, it's uncommon for someone that age because he would be of his little older than we are, he's good bit of his day at now.
01:38:37.342 --> 01:38:38.903
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he was an old man back then, but I've been
01:38:40.275 --> 01:38:42.821
[UNKNOWN]: We were conditioned to not even go there.
01:38:43.362 --> 01:38:44.685
[UNKNOWN]: There's too much risk to be taken.
01:38:45.145 --> 01:38:49.895
[UNKNOWN]: And Joshua, our argument is you're going to hear a lot more things like this out of young people.
01:38:50.974 --> 01:38:51.114
[UNKNOWN]: 100%.
01:38:51.154 --> 01:39:00.281
[UNKNOWN]: And because basically, you had in the 60s, the, you know, de-segregation, you know, civil rights movement.
01:39:00.701 --> 01:39:02.643
[UNKNOWN]: And that snowballed in all these other things.
01:39:02.703 --> 01:39:07.787
[UNKNOWN]: And now, but we, we have to look at the effect rather than the intent.
01:39:07.987 --> 01:39:13.311
[UNKNOWN]: And the effect is, is that a vast majority of white Americans have become liberals.
01:39:13.471 --> 01:39:17.174
[UNKNOWN]: And what they are doing, they are, they are fighting tooth and nail
01:39:19.195 --> 01:39:29.243
[UNKNOWN]: Distance themselves from their ancestors, from their past, and then, but what I see when I look on America's past and our founders, yes, mistakes were made.
01:39:29.704 --> 01:39:34.568
[UNKNOWN]: But the truth is, it is the best country on the planet.
01:39:34.988 --> 01:39:36.610
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm extremely proud of it.
01:39:36.750 --> 01:39:37.730
[UNKNOWN]: And so even though,
01:39:38.735 --> 01:39:44.599
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not like a born and bred southerner that has a lot of, uh, yeah, I don't think about the civil war very much.
01:39:44.639 --> 01:39:46.140
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be perfectly honest about that.
01:39:46.200 --> 01:39:49.783
[UNKNOWN]: Most of most of the civil war talking my life has been since me moving here.
01:39:50.523 --> 01:40:02.511
[UNKNOWN]: But when I hear shall be foot, talk about his ancestry and how, you know what, I don't support that aspect of things, but he's talking about people he's never met that existed over a hundred
01:40:05.713 --> 01:40:09.956
[UNKNOWN]: And there's this like sentiment in America that there's something silly about that.
01:40:09.976 --> 01:40:13.698
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like, well, the people who existed before me, they're dead.
01:40:13.758 --> 01:40:14.298
[UNKNOWN]: Who cares?
01:40:14.318 --> 01:40:16.679
[UNKNOWN]: The people that will exist after me, they're not here yet.
01:40:16.719 --> 01:40:17.420
[UNKNOWN]: So who cares?
01:40:17.480 --> 01:40:19.481
[UNKNOWN]: It's all about Mimi, Mimi, now, now, now.
01:40:19.941 --> 01:40:21.942
[UNKNOWN]: So I really admire that sentiment.
01:40:22.142 --> 01:40:23.083
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, let me ask you, Ralph.
01:40:23.103 --> 01:40:24.063
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to get you in trouble here.
01:40:24.083 --> 01:40:24.924
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, rev that like these.
01:40:25.524 --> 01:40:28.786
[UNKNOWN]: Um, when you hear Shelby Flitt say, my people.
01:40:29.806 --> 01:40:30.246
[UNKNOWN]: What do you hear?
01:40:30.566 --> 01:40:32.227
[UNKNOWN]: Because he said, I'm from Mississippi.
01:40:32.948 --> 01:40:34.188
[UNKNOWN]: I want to follow with my people.
01:40:34.328 --> 01:40:37.630
[UNKNOWN]: What do you hear when he says of my, because this is a big issue in America today.
01:40:38.070 --> 01:40:41.792
[UNKNOWN]: When you and I were young, 5% of our country was foreign born.
01:40:42.453 --> 01:40:43.873
[UNKNOWN]: It's 20% today.
01:40:44.554 --> 01:40:47.896
[UNKNOWN]: So when you hear Shelby Flitz say, my people, what do you hear?
01:40:48.216 --> 01:40:51.658
[UNKNOWN]: When I hear a very personal statement.
01:40:51.858 --> 01:40:56.240
[UNKNOWN]: So to me, that's family, friends, community.
01:40:57.262 --> 01:40:57.802
[UNKNOWN]: That's all I do.
01:40:58.383 --> 01:40:59.924
[UNKNOWN]: So you don't hear Southern Heritage.
01:41:01.364 --> 01:41:02.825
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really hear that.
01:41:03.045 --> 01:41:05.087
[UNKNOWN]: OK, not figured you'd be careful on that.
01:41:05.707 --> 01:41:06.507
[UNKNOWN]: I kind of do.
01:41:06.688 --> 01:41:07.288
[UNKNOWN]: Josh, do you?
01:41:07.308 --> 01:41:11.130
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, do you hear Southern Heritage when you hear my people?
01:41:11.670 --> 01:41:11.911
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:41:12.051 --> 01:41:19.875
[UNKNOWN]: OK, but OK, so if Shelby thought is willing to say that I'm not going to be apologetic for my Southern Heritage, we were wrong on slavery.
01:41:20.796 --> 01:41:23.017
[UNKNOWN]: History shows us to have been wrong on slavery.
01:41:27.592 --> 01:41:30.496
[UNKNOWN]: We wanted at times to question the authority of the Union.
01:41:31.457 --> 01:41:35.401
[UNKNOWN]: We at times did things that, you know, we felt was in our state's best interest.
01:41:35.922 --> 01:41:40.628
[UNKNOWN]: We were, and I think he's arguing rev the complicated Confederacy.
01:41:41.967 --> 01:41:45.689
[UNKNOWN]: He sees not a slavery apologist by any stretch of the imagination.
01:41:45.709 --> 01:41:47.611
[UNKNOWN]: She'll be full of it as far broader than that.
01:41:48.131 --> 01:41:50.092
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's a racist bone in this body.
01:41:50.112 --> 01:41:51.814
[UNKNOWN]: I never met the man of red a lot about it.
01:41:51.834 --> 01:41:53.154
[UNKNOWN]: And I listen to him speak a lot.
01:41:53.635 --> 01:41:57.938
[UNKNOWN]: I think Kim Bernstein, a fine to be one of the most non-racist others in this event, my life.
01:41:58.258 --> 01:42:00.859
[UNKNOWN]: Now, that's pretty rich for Kim Bernstein's eight.
01:42:00.879 --> 01:42:01.640
[UNKNOWN]: Surprise, surprise.
01:42:01.660 --> 01:42:04.562
[UNKNOWN]: There are people down there that aren't hardcore racist.
01:42:11.687 --> 01:42:15.988
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a celebration of Southern heritage and a spirit.
01:42:16.728 --> 01:42:18.729
[UNKNOWN]: And to me, that's what Josh is arguing.
01:42:18.749 --> 01:42:20.269
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what these young people are arguing.
01:42:20.629 --> 01:42:23.650
[UNKNOWN]: Why am I apologizing for my American heritage?
01:42:25.290 --> 01:42:33.452
[UNKNOWN]: Why do I have to embrace 20% of our country being popular about people who don't have anything in common with my American heritage?
01:42:33.812 --> 01:42:37.853
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Josh believes that one's inferior to the other, it's just different.
01:42:38.774 --> 01:42:45.721
[UNKNOWN]: And if we have 20% of our population, some are doing 50 and 75 million people in America, nobody really knows.
01:42:46.942 --> 01:42:51.666
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we got certain ways, we tracked certain things, but nobody really knows.
01:42:52.026 --> 01:42:56.751
[UNKNOWN]: But it's one of the reasons I try to understand the concerning people have.
01:42:57.331 --> 01:43:02.676
[UNKNOWN]: And I've come up with two conclusions, Josh, and I'm being a boomer judging your generation.
01:43:03.317 --> 01:43:08.519
[UNKNOWN]: And I look at some of the criticisms and concerns and complaints you have, and I'm going like, that's BS.
01:43:09.059 --> 01:43:11.980
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, no, no, no, no, no, stop, but that's, that's baby.
01:43:12.381 --> 01:43:16.582
[UNKNOWN]: That's not being tough enough, not being man enough, not being mature enough, not being willing to find enough.
01:43:16.842 --> 01:43:20.444
[UNKNOWN]: But the two points I'll give you Josh, and I think rebel give you these.
01:43:20.844 --> 01:43:26.006
[UNKNOWN]: The two points I'll give you is the wage inflation disparity.
01:43:27.155 --> 01:43:34.057
[UNKNOWN]: You live and you are living your younger years in a more financially clapped, challenging climate than Rev nor I did.
01:43:34.577 --> 01:43:39.278
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't make as much money, but we didn't need as much money because things weren't anywhere near as expensive.
01:43:39.878 --> 01:43:41.958
[UNKNOWN]: So you got this data point, this graph.
01:43:42.478 --> 01:43:49.100
[UNKNOWN]: And during what Rev and I argue, I'm an inflation outpaced way just by a little bit, but it didn't bear us.
01:43:50.402 --> 01:43:54.784
[UNKNOWN]: you're living in an era where wages are nowhere near keeping up with inflation.
01:43:55.584 --> 01:43:56.685
[UNKNOWN]: And it makes it hard.
01:43:57.585 --> 01:43:59.406
[UNKNOWN]: And it makes it birdsome.
01:43:59.566 --> 01:44:01.307
[UNKNOWN]: And it makes it discouraging.
01:44:01.787 --> 01:44:04.548
[UNKNOWN]: The other data point is the number of immigrants.
01:44:05.108 --> 01:44:15.193
[UNKNOWN]: The number of foreign-born people living in our country today, competing for our jobs, our way of life, our housing, our government programs, our college and minutes,
01:44:16.453 --> 01:44:26.055
[UNKNOWN]: And I think there's legitimate control, I think Josh's generation, if they're going to be critical of the way we've constructed an economy, I think the two most legitimate points are.
01:44:26.495 --> 01:44:31.336
[UNKNOWN]: We failed you guys on immigration, and we failed you guys on inflation.
01:44:32.376 --> 01:44:35.837
[UNKNOWN]: And we're basically dumping that in your lap and saying, do the best you can.
01:44:35.857 --> 01:44:37.877
[UNKNOWN]: And I think we're able to agree to that.
01:44:38.177 --> 01:44:40.698
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't face that sort of immigration issue.
01:44:41.830 --> 01:44:44.451
[UNKNOWN]: nor did we face that sort of inflation.
01:44:45.132 --> 01:44:53.956
[UNKNOWN]: And when you look at young people in general and you see kind of the anxiety and the nervousness and the disappointment and I'm gonna get me right track wrong track.
01:44:54.637 --> 01:45:00.400
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just kind of reflected in because it's more than to me is more than just failed, you know, the young voters it's failed the country.
01:45:00.820 --> 01:45:04.482
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, whoever was in charge making decisions, the representatives we elected,
01:45:05.350 --> 01:45:08.451
[UNKNOWN]: and kept re-electing, have failed the country on those issues.
01:45:08.511 --> 01:45:11.952
[UNKNOWN]: But the failure of the country does not affect your future like it does theirs.
01:45:12.532 --> 01:45:13.912
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they've got a blank sheet of paper.
01:45:14.052 --> 01:45:14.192
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
01:45:15.112 --> 01:45:15.933
[UNKNOWN]: You and I know of it.
01:45:16.033 --> 01:45:18.393
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, my paper is three quarters full.
01:45:18.733 --> 01:45:21.194
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I still got a little bit to write, I hope.
01:45:21.374 --> 01:45:26.435
[UNKNOWN]: But their entire future, my kids, your kids, their entire future, they stare down.
01:45:26.455 --> 01:45:27.476
[UNKNOWN]: There's a blank sheet of paper.
01:45:28.036 --> 01:45:32.497
[UNKNOWN]: You and I stare down and there's a lot of things written and a little bit of room left.
01:45:33.297 --> 01:45:44.070
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why when you talk to older boomers, they're not that concerned about what Josh and his generation have to say, because they didn't try to make it during that period of time.
01:45:44.610 --> 01:45:45.551
[UNKNOWN]: And they're generation.
01:45:45.611 --> 01:45:49.776
[UNKNOWN]: And all I'm trying to do is address it because I think we need to consolidate.
01:45:50.537 --> 01:45:55.519
[UNKNOWN]: We need to say grace over this generational conflict that America finds itself in.
01:45:55.539 --> 01:45:57.360
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not one's right the other's wrong.
01:45:57.920 --> 01:45:59.661
[UNKNOWN]: It's much more complicated than that.
01:46:00.341 --> 01:46:03.803
[UNKNOWN]: But I think shutting down the debate and discrediting the argument.
01:46:04.930 --> 01:46:06.470
[UNKNOWN]: We'll get your ass whipped in elections.
01:46:06.891 --> 01:46:08.131
[UNKNOWN]: Trust me, take a break.
01:46:08.151 --> 01:46:09.871
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be back in just a few.
01:46:10.091 --> 01:46:13.152
[UNKNOWN]: We're back at four, three, six, six, one, oh, nine, three, seven.
01:46:13.192 --> 01:46:17.634
[UNKNOWN]: We had to reach way back in the past to find somebody Josh actually likes and give us credit too.
01:46:17.954 --> 01:46:19.314
[UNKNOWN]: But Shelby flips okay with y'all.
01:46:19.334 --> 01:46:20.454
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, somebody's here.
01:46:20.494 --> 01:46:21.695
[UNKNOWN]: Boomer or even older.
01:46:21.715 --> 01:46:21.935
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:46:22.835 --> 01:46:48.718
[UNKNOWN]: you know he was born I'm kidding but he is a young let me show me may have been the greatest generation I don't know I did a long time but I had a question for you Josh and it relates to you know attitudes and approaches these days because I mean is it is part of it truly that your generation or a lot in your generation just don't care about being politically correct you don't have the fear and you just don't care about being politically correct.
01:46:50.120 --> 01:46:54.142
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Trump has a big part to do with that.
01:46:54.202 --> 01:47:04.686
[UNKNOWN]: I think there was this statesman like view of politics and how it's just business is conducted that Trump, you know, he was the bull in the China shop too.
01:47:05.267 --> 01:47:11.209
[UNKNOWN]: And now people feel like they can be a little bit more honest about how they really feel about certain things.
01:47:11.289 --> 01:47:16.572
[UNKNOWN]: Especially the problems we have that aren't being talked about.
01:47:17.347 --> 01:47:17.747
[UNKNOWN]: Interesting.
01:47:17.867 --> 01:47:19.048
[UNKNOWN]: A sense of liberation.
01:47:19.889 --> 01:47:21.290
[UNKNOWN]: If he can say it, why can't I?
01:47:21.370 --> 01:47:25.353
[UNKNOWN]: If he can be politically incorrect, why can't I almost almost the opposite?
01:47:25.393 --> 01:47:29.095
[UNKNOWN]: It's almost like I should say these things because they're true.
01:47:29.195 --> 01:47:31.817
[UNKNOWN]: Was that the attractement to Trump for young people?
01:47:31.837 --> 01:47:35.880
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know you don't speak for everybody young, but I mean, the young conservative male.
01:47:36.060 --> 01:47:36.360
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:47:36.420 --> 01:47:37.821
[UNKNOWN]: Was that the attraction to Trump?
01:47:37.982 --> 01:47:39.022
[UNKNOWN]: This cattle say anything.
01:47:39.042 --> 01:47:43.365
[UNKNOWN]: And this is this is what this is why Trump was so popular, especially in 2016.
01:47:43.425 --> 01:47:46.568
[UNKNOWN]: I think is because when it comes to politics,
01:47:47.640 --> 01:48:00.127
[UNKNOWN]: know, I hear all the time about how well you have to play smart and I understand that you do, but when when you only shoot for the next best thing, you never, you never get the good.
01:48:00.367 --> 01:48:05.370
[UNKNOWN]: If that makes sense, I'm I'm butchering the, you know, phrasing here, but my point is is it's like,
01:48:07.063 --> 01:48:11.745
[UNKNOWN]: Americans, Trump's base, the mega base wanted a border wall.
01:48:12.445 --> 01:48:14.126
[UNKNOWN]: They want nasty portations.
01:48:14.186 --> 01:48:20.548
[UNKNOWN]: They want all of these, you know, by 2015 and 16 standards, extreme things.
01:48:21.288 --> 01:48:25.750
[UNKNOWN]: But no one was asking for it because no one in politics was running on that.
01:48:25.770 --> 01:48:27.591
[UNKNOWN]: And they just say, well, he's a lesser or two evils.
01:48:27.911 --> 01:48:28.651
[UNKNOWN]: Trump gets in.
01:48:29.091 --> 01:48:35.034
[UNKNOWN]: And it's almost like, oh, I have permission to want the things that I want.
01:48:35.903 --> 01:48:39.784
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that was one of them, that, that is the real staying power of Trump for me.
01:48:39.824 --> 01:48:42.744
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's broken a lot of his promises and it's very disappointing.
01:48:42.764 --> 01:48:44.065
[UNKNOWN]: But that is the most important.
01:48:44.465 --> 01:48:47.165
[UNKNOWN]: That is the thing that he contributed to probably doing this now.
01:48:47.605 --> 01:48:50.946
[UNKNOWN]: Young people are saying, you know what, I just want my country back.
01:48:51.106 --> 01:48:54.447
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, I don't care about all these arguments about this than the third.
01:48:54.727 --> 01:48:56.227
[UNKNOWN]: I want my country back period.
01:48:56.307 --> 01:48:58.908
[UNKNOWN]: But where I'll push back on you a little bit, Josh, he is.
01:49:00.177 --> 01:49:01.798
[UNKNOWN]: You won't him to do these things.
01:49:01.858 --> 01:49:02.659
[UNKNOWN]: You want to wall.
01:49:02.719 --> 01:49:04.460
[UNKNOWN]: You're my nasty portations.
01:49:04.480 --> 01:49:07.162
[UNKNOWN]: You won't, you know, less political correctness.
01:49:07.182 --> 01:49:08.523
[UNKNOWN]: You won't less what I get all that.
01:49:08.563 --> 01:49:09.444
[UNKNOWN]: And I do, by the way.
01:49:09.724 --> 01:49:13.527
[UNKNOWN]: Well, but here's what you and I, I think understand and accept Josh Dutton.
01:49:14.067 --> 01:49:15.088
[UNKNOWN]: He runs into a machine.
01:49:17.203 --> 01:49:18.885
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he just runs into a machine.
01:49:18.945 --> 01:49:22.169
[UNKNOWN]: He runs into a John Thuner, a Mitch McConnell who don't want those things.
01:49:22.749 --> 01:49:27.195
[UNKNOWN]: He runs into a fundraising and a donor class that doesn't want those things.
01:49:27.215 --> 01:49:27.955
[UNKNOWN]: That's a federal judge.
01:49:28.015 --> 01:49:28.296
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:49:28.416 --> 01:49:29.757
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, every time he turns around.
01:49:29.858 --> 01:49:30.478
[UNKNOWN]: And that's it.
01:49:30.518 --> 01:49:32.080
[UNKNOWN]: To me, that's the disconnect rev.
01:49:32.521 --> 01:49:37.446
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think the things that Josh wanted when Trump got elected were what you and I wanted.
01:49:38.147 --> 01:49:41.749
[UNKNOWN]: And we weren't bothered by the less reverent way he went about it.
01:49:41.810 --> 01:49:44.151
[UNKNOWN]: We weren't bothered by his bomb blast.
01:49:44.211 --> 01:49:55.599
[UNKNOWN]: We weren't bothered by the ready fire aim, but you and I, to our advantage or disadvantage, depending on where you see it, you and I knew that he'd run into a political machine.
01:49:56.930 --> 01:49:59.472
[UNKNOWN]: And the political machine was not up for disruption.
01:50:00.092 --> 01:50:01.593
[UNKNOWN]: It was not up for game change.
01:50:01.653 --> 01:50:05.195
[UNKNOWN]: It was not up for, hey, here's the way we've always done things.
01:50:05.275 --> 01:50:08.978
[UNKNOWN]: Might be a good time to remind us of Steve Bannon's quote back at the beginning.
01:50:08.998 --> 01:50:13.640
[UNKNOWN]: But if you believe they're going to give your country back that easily, you'll learn something the hard way.
01:50:13.901 --> 01:50:15.542
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Bannon said that at the beginning.
01:50:16.282 --> 01:50:17.903
[UNKNOWN]: And, and Bannon had a foot in each camp.
01:50:18.103 --> 01:50:19.824
[UNKNOWN]: Bannon was a vice president at Goldman.
01:50:20.384 --> 01:50:21.625
[UNKNOWN]: How many worked on Capitol Hill?
01:50:21.645 --> 01:50:22.685
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted around Capitol Hill.
01:50:22.705 --> 01:50:24.566
[UNKNOWN]: Made a lot of money in the finance world.
01:50:24.606 --> 01:50:27.628
[UNKNOWN]: And then he becomes a maga enthusiast, a maga activist.
01:50:28.108 --> 01:50:36.393
[UNKNOWN]: And Bannon was the guy that said in 16 or 17, if you believe these people are going to give your country back without a thought, you've got another thing coming.
01:50:36.913 --> 01:50:40.535
[UNKNOWN]: I think rev and I were more accepting of that than young people.
01:50:40.575 --> 01:50:42.216
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not encouraging young people to be accepting.
01:50:43.576 --> 01:50:44.641
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a reality.
01:50:45.103 --> 01:50:47.997
[UNKNOWN]: Trump wanted some big things.
01:50:49.817 --> 01:50:54.921
[UNKNOWN]: But willing big things, and the machine allowing you to have big things are fundamentally different.
01:50:54.941 --> 01:50:55.882
[UNKNOWN]: What would you put it this way?
01:50:56.182 --> 01:50:57.804
[UNKNOWN]: To us, it doesn't mean stop fighting.
01:50:57.944 --> 01:51:02.207
[UNKNOWN]: It sounds like to, are you giving up, are you giving up on the whole idea?
01:51:02.628 --> 01:51:09.113
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, this is not the path, so we're just going to go the other way and not help and not continue the fight.
01:51:09.133 --> 01:51:12.235
[UNKNOWN]: That's almost what it sounds like to me when I hear people say they're not going to vote.
01:51:12.256 --> 01:51:13.697
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's to disconnect.
01:51:14.483 --> 01:51:25.432
[UNKNOWN]: You and I have accepted that this thing ain't going to work out the way Trump thinks that he is, and Bannon's already told us, and Josh's generation's going, why does it have to be that way?
01:51:26.413 --> 01:51:28.474
[UNKNOWN]: Why do we have to kiss the ring of the machine?
01:51:29.855 --> 01:51:31.457
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't we overthrow the machine?
01:51:32.437 --> 01:51:37.021
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't we radically, why can't we, I mean, the, the, the abstine saga to me is the
01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:46.283
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody of ethic and morals knows that that list needs to be made public.
01:51:48.825 --> 01:51:51.647
[UNKNOWN]: But the machine has so much at risk, it can't.
01:51:52.648 --> 01:51:56.770
[UNKNOWN]: The machine knows it's unethical to tomorrow to keep those names in private.
01:51:57.651 --> 01:51:58.952
[UNKNOWN]: But it's self preservation.
01:51:59.872 --> 01:52:04.015
[UNKNOWN]: The machine knows the cost paid if those names are made public.
01:52:05.661 --> 01:52:09.189
[UNKNOWN]: And it's self preservation, it's just the nature of the beast.
01:52:09.770 --> 01:52:16.544
[UNKNOWN]: And what I've argued Josh is, and I know you don't want to hear this, and I know you believe that and I didn't want to hear what I was younger, it's going to be methodical.
01:52:17.223 --> 01:52:18.224
[UNKNOWN]: there's going to be incremental.
01:52:18.704 --> 01:52:20.546
[UNKNOWN]: There's going to be a step forward and a half step back.
01:52:20.566 --> 01:52:22.348
[UNKNOWN]: There's going to be two steps forward, two steps back.
01:52:22.648 --> 01:52:24.250
[UNKNOWN]: There's at times you take it on water.
01:52:24.270 --> 01:52:27.092
[UNKNOWN]: You're not making any progress at all, but you got to hang in there.
01:52:27.112 --> 01:52:34.219
[UNKNOWN]: You got to stick in there and Josh's going like, I don't want to, I mean, I've heard that forever and your generation has accepted that as norm.
01:52:34.299 --> 01:52:34.680
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not.
01:52:35.220 --> 01:52:37.723
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to accept that it has to be that way.
01:52:38.363 --> 01:52:54.910
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 100% and you know, actually I just got a text from someone and they said Biden can just do things and it reminds me of when he Unconstitutionally just wiped out all this student debt and I'm thinking I'm not I'm not even talking about student debts specifically, but I'm saying, why can't we do that?
01:52:55.750 --> 01:53:03.814
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's done some things like that had me not not enough He needs to win, but but you wouldn't would you would go easy done, but we're making a baby step here.
01:53:04.014 --> 01:53:06.275
[UNKNOWN]: Would you agree he's done some things like that
01:53:08.212 --> 01:53:10.113
[UNKNOWN]: that got immediately overturned.
01:53:10.173 --> 01:53:11.174
[UNKNOWN]: So the border's closed.
01:53:11.194 --> 01:53:13.295
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it was open by Biden.
01:53:14.396 --> 01:53:18.658
[UNKNOWN]: The border will open as soon as a Democrat gets in in 28 and then 10 million more will come.
01:53:18.678 --> 01:53:22.700
[UNKNOWN]: And then that's kind of my point when I push back on your attitude of I'm not voting.
01:53:22.941 --> 01:53:24.642
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're like, OK, I'm just going to let that happen.
01:53:24.682 --> 01:53:27.903
[UNKNOWN]: I'm basically complicit in that happening.
01:53:27.943 --> 01:53:31.485
[UNKNOWN]: And I think you think it has to happen in order to get what we really need.
01:53:31.626 --> 01:53:33.787
[UNKNOWN]: I think we made a little progress on this therapy session.
01:53:33.807 --> 01:53:36.328
[UNKNOWN]: I think we should extend this session.
01:53:37.769 --> 01:53:38.149
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:53:38.749 --> 01:53:39.090
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:53:39.110 --> 01:53:40.110
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I've made a progress.
01:53:40.230 --> 01:53:42.931
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody run to the restaurant will be back in.
01:53:42.951 --> 01:53:43.091
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:53:43.111 --> 01:53:44.572
[UNKNOWN]: We're getting rebuilt daily.
01:53:44.612 --> 01:53:45.572
[UNKNOWN]: No, they believe that.
01:53:45.933 --> 01:53:46.393
[UNKNOWN]: Back in a few.
01:53:46.833 --> 01:53:48.114
[UNKNOWN]: So I told Josh during the break.
01:53:48.174 --> 01:53:50.295
[UNKNOWN]: I said, Josh, that therapy sessions on the house.
01:53:50.315 --> 01:53:51.735
[UNKNOWN]: You don't owe us anything.
01:53:52.576 --> 01:53:54.696
[UNKNOWN]: We like the fact that we had that back in fourth.
01:53:54.737 --> 01:53:55.557
[UNKNOWN]: And then what Josh says?
01:53:57.396 --> 01:54:16.382
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to charge you for yeah he said that I was going to take the same thing because I'm bringing you guys out of the dark ages into the modern era of the way things are so as much as we believe rev as we kind of talked off the record we think we helped Josh a little bit on that on that thing that he didn't clearly understand Josh is over there going these two old geezers may have a future.
01:54:16.942 --> 01:54:22.050
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, they may be more willing to listen than we ever imagined they would.
01:54:22.391 --> 01:54:27.559
[UNKNOWN]: If we're going to win elections, can we agree to this, Josh, there's not enough of us.
01:54:28.140 --> 01:54:28.640
[UNKNOWN]: Yes or no?
01:54:30.203 --> 01:54:31.224
[UNKNOWN]: And there's not enough of you.
01:54:31.505 --> 01:54:31.966
[UNKNOWN]: Yes or no?
01:54:33.245 --> 01:54:40.249
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, you know, if we lose in November, I mean, I think it's going to be hard anyway.
01:54:40.969 --> 01:54:44.151
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think there's so many headwinds that you're ran war.
01:54:44.651 --> 01:54:46.372
[UNKNOWN]: I'm abstain, they're ran war in particular.
01:54:46.392 --> 01:54:48.133
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's not that you're ran war.
01:54:48.173 --> 01:54:49.414
[UNKNOWN]: That's a complicated matter.
01:54:49.774 --> 01:54:52.116
[UNKNOWN]: What did the Iranian war lead to?
01:54:52.716 --> 01:54:53.997
[UNKNOWN]: Higher energy cost.
01:54:55.033 --> 01:54:56.513
[UNKNOWN]: not addressing affordability.
01:54:56.593 --> 01:54:58.674
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be the macro of all macros.
01:54:59.234 --> 01:55:13.837
[UNKNOWN]: But if we have a fighting chance to hold on in Texas, to hold on in Ohio, to hold on in Maine, to hold on in a couple of other places, to make sure South Carolina is not at risk.
01:55:14.358 --> 01:55:19.779
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to take Josh, Ian, Keon, and Reiv, and a lot of our younger and older voters
01:55:25.620 --> 01:55:31.023
[UNKNOWN]: And Ohio isn't play and South Carolina could potentially be in play.
01:55:31.524 --> 01:55:35.386
[UNKNOWN]: So what I'm arguing is we have an uphill climb.
01:55:36.086 --> 01:55:41.489
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be almost impossible if we don't consolidate in the way I'm hopeful we will.
01:55:42.710 --> 01:55:44.691
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and to me, this is my thing.
01:55:45.351 --> 01:55:48.033
[UNKNOWN]: So we're talking about the 2028 election right now.
01:55:50.212 --> 01:55:55.954
[UNKNOWN]: Hypothetically, let's say there was some candidate who's a relative unknown, maybe a couple people.
01:55:55.974 --> 01:56:09.898
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe you go, yeah, yeah, I heard of that guy, and he comes on the scene, and he is a more Trump-esque candidate than a JD fan, sir, or Marco Rubio, would you vote for them?
01:56:09.938 --> 01:56:10.818
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be interesting.
01:56:10.978 --> 01:56:12.518
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I've tried to play that out.
01:56:12.578 --> 01:56:16.160
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I think the effect of this midterm is going to be.
01:56:16.280 --> 01:56:17.460
[UNKNOWN]: Don't fake me out.
01:56:18.221 --> 01:56:19.201
[UNKNOWN]: beat me the real deal.
01:56:19.381 --> 01:56:19.541
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
01:56:19.721 --> 01:56:19.981
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:56:20.001 --> 01:56:20.662
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I get that.
01:56:20.722 --> 01:56:21.222
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the home.
01:56:21.242 --> 01:56:21.642
[UNKNOWN]: So much there.
01:56:22.342 --> 01:56:23.182
[UNKNOWN]: It's David and the PD.
01:56:23.262 --> 01:56:23.582
[UNKNOWN]: I David.
01:56:25.123 --> 01:56:26.263
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, good morning.
01:56:26.323 --> 01:56:27.603
[UNKNOWN]: See, it's not the home of Baker.
01:56:28.784 --> 01:56:30.744
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, also rally yesterday, man.
01:56:30.784 --> 01:56:34.125
[UNKNOWN]: Kid, I'm sure that he was and did you watch that game yesterday?
01:56:34.165 --> 01:56:34.525
[UNKNOWN]: I did.
01:56:34.605 --> 01:56:35.025
[UNKNOWN]: I watched it.
01:56:35.065 --> 01:56:35.585
[UNKNOWN]: Good bit of it.
01:56:35.605 --> 01:56:36.706
[UNKNOWN]: I got home at about.
01:56:36.866 --> 01:56:37.806
[UNKNOWN]: I thirded four thinning.
01:56:38.606 --> 01:56:39.426
[UNKNOWN]: I told Ray about that.
01:56:39.446 --> 01:56:40.647
[UNKNOWN]: I actually fixed my day up.
01:56:40.987 --> 01:56:42.787
[UNKNOWN]: So I could be home and wash.
01:56:42.867 --> 01:56:43.507
[UNKNOWN]: I maybe the last.
01:56:43.607 --> 01:56:44.608
[UNKNOWN]: I think I missed the first three
01:56:46.284 --> 01:56:52.907
[UNKNOWN]: That two o'clock start and really, I guess I start at 2.15 and I'm sure you played baseball obviously.
01:56:52.927 --> 01:56:55.688
[UNKNOWN]: Then I thought about with sun angles.
01:56:56.389 --> 01:57:05.913
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you got these shadows and these guys are going back to that warning track and all of a sudden they can't see the ball because it went from the sun into the shadow.
01:57:06.433 --> 01:57:10.695
[UNKNOWN]: Especially after you get to where you have that, I guess the
01:57:11.347 --> 01:57:16.251
[UNKNOWN]: the mound has some light and the whole plate is in shadows.
01:57:17.011 --> 01:57:19.073
[UNKNOWN]: So that gives some money advantage.
01:57:19.093 --> 01:57:25.858
[UNKNOWN]: So once the rally hit that home Rodman, I thought, wow, that was very good for the boys' fans, man.
01:57:26.619 --> 01:57:37.988
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking about a land of those, that whole thing, with that Senate thing, the website and Jack Smith, and that whole hawk eyes and hawks thing you were talking about, that was crazy.
01:57:39.403 --> 01:57:41.004
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's incompetent, David.
01:57:41.044 --> 01:57:44.207
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's a staff incompetently imp preparing a senator.
01:57:45.028 --> 01:57:54.195
[UNKNOWN]: That bother me so much that this guy, he don't know enough and he's going to let these people and again, I'm going to pick on Josh for a second.
01:57:54.816 --> 01:57:58.098
[UNKNOWN]: Josh still knows a different Hawkeyes and Hawkes and this and that.
01:57:58.118 --> 01:58:02.982
[UNKNOWN]: So you go let some staff for pull-ups, some kind of big post-saborder,
01:58:04.410 --> 01:58:11.233
[UNKNOWN]: you're trying to nail a guy that he deserves to be nailed, but you're giving him it's used to squeeze a lot of this whole thing.
01:58:12.533 --> 01:58:17.515
[UNKNOWN]: And that bothered me so much, but anyway, I'll leave it as, I'll take about $1.
01:58:18.615 --> 01:58:27.679
[UNKNOWN]: Here's the thing, the Senator run the staff or the staff run the Senator, and we're finally staying out here, and I'm blessed.
01:58:29.424 --> 01:58:33.731
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we don't have to pull this thing out, but anyway, just think about what I just said.
01:58:33.751 --> 01:58:34.452
[UNKNOWN]: You have a good day.
01:58:34.512 --> 01:58:34.853
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:58:34.913 --> 01:58:36.615
[UNKNOWN]: We can't make a mistake like that.
01:58:36.695 --> 01:58:37.677
[UNKNOWN]: We've been Republicans.
01:58:37.697 --> 01:58:38.398
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you just can't.
01:58:38.979 --> 01:58:40.521
[UNKNOWN]: Jack Smith is a hack.
01:58:41.540 --> 01:58:45.821
[UNKNOWN]: Jack Smith went after President Trump, unconstitutionally.
01:58:46.682 --> 01:58:49.663
[UNKNOWN]: Jack Smith did the Democrats beating.
01:58:50.483 --> 01:58:55.305
[UNKNOWN]: Jack Smith colored so far out of the lines, he should be charged with the crime.
01:58:55.905 --> 01:58:57.305
[UNKNOWN]: But you know what we're talking about today?
01:58:58.086 --> 01:59:03.848
[UNKNOWN]: The Hawks and Hawke guys, be called some staffer and some Senator trusted a staffer,
01:59:04.753 --> 01:59:10.475
[UNKNOWN]: And it was an egregious mistake, and for those that don't know, Eric Schmidt, Jr.
01:59:10.515 --> 01:59:27.181
[UNKNOWN]: Senator from Missouri, I think, Missouri, basically believed he had the goods on special prosecutor Jackson Smith, and basically was going to convince the public, we, the people that Jackson
01:59:36.180 --> 01:59:43.189
[UNKNOWN]: She was the person who was, I mean just doing everything in her power to paint Trump as a criminal.
01:59:44.102 --> 02:00:00.766
[UNKNOWN]: And then we found actually had an affair with a bow worked in her office and that crap kind of hit the fan and some of the news broke like February 3rd 2000 whatever 21 whatever whatever year it was when when Biden took over and put Smith in charge of the special counsel they went after Trump.
02:00:01.566 --> 02:00:05.947
[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of the the going zone Josh was in February in I think 2021
02:00:09.412 --> 02:00:22.463
[UNKNOWN]: And Eric Schmidt thought he had Jack Smith dead derights and coordinating with Fannie Willis, which would have been just a fatal flaw to their investigating of Trump, except Jack Smith wasn't there.
02:00:23.944 --> 02:00:27.707
[UNKNOWN]: He was not an Atlanta Hulks basket ball game in Atlanta.
02:00:28.007 --> 02:00:31.090
[UNKNOWN]: Where Fannie Willis and Old Bow were laying up.
02:00:32.191 --> 02:00:34.313
[UNKNOWN]: He was an Iowa, no excuse me, he was in,
02:00:36.625 --> 02:00:39.688
[UNKNOWN]: was that Philadelphia, I mean, it was, it wasn't I, I don't think.
02:00:39.708 --> 02:00:42.431
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was in Maryland, maybe.
02:00:42.471 --> 02:00:44.473
[UNKNOWN]: There was a professional at college basketball.
02:00:44.493 --> 02:00:49.358
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Maryland versus the Iowa Hawkeyes in women's basketball.
02:00:50.421 --> 02:01:01.406
[UNKNOWN]: So some staff were confused the Atlanta Hawks Atlanta with the Iowa Hawke eyes and it looks silly, I mean, it just, it does to take away.
02:01:01.867 --> 02:01:04.928
[UNKNOWN]: It was not how vindictive Jack Smith was.
02:01:05.628 --> 02:01:09.230
[UNKNOWN]: It was not how egregious he was going after Trump.
02:01:09.590 --> 02:01:16.534
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought about it this morning, Josh, to me, I'm of the most compelling point I can make is if you
02:01:18.211 --> 02:01:20.197
[UNKNOWN]: You don't like the way the Democrats roll.
02:01:21.461 --> 02:01:22.765
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to get jacksmith 2.0.
02:01:24.263 --> 02:01:48.828
[UNKNOWN]: you're going to get a special prosecutor going after Trump on everything from the Iran war to inflation to ex-on to crypto to AI, they're going to try to pay him as the most corrupt president in the history of America, they're going to launch an investigation, they're going to file impeachment documents, they're going to impeach him in the house if they have the majority of the Senate, they'll indict him in the Senate and they'll remove him from office.
02:01:49.408 --> 02:01:53.492
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know how anybody with any amount of loyalty to maga.
02:01:54.113 --> 02:02:00.198
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how you've ever been on the maga train, and allow that outcome to be possible.
02:02:01.039 --> 02:02:09.327
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if I were begging in pleading, the Joshes of the world who believe it's best to set out, to not set out, that would be the most compelling argument I can make.
02:02:10.288 --> 02:02:12.690
[UNKNOWN]: And I would say that, um,
02:02:14.351 --> 02:02:19.254
[UNKNOWN]: My mentality is, if you send me something, I don't want, I'm gonna send it back.
02:02:19.815 --> 02:02:22.056
[UNKNOWN]: So I got on the Trump train.
02:02:22.276 --> 02:02:28.281
[UNKNOWN]: I got on with Maga because I believed in what he was selling, not because I believed in him.
02:02:29.301 --> 02:02:31.903
[UNKNOWN]: And he has sold me down the river.
02:02:32.684 --> 02:02:40.069
[UNKNOWN]: So I think sitting this one out and letting him take the hit, letting him possibly get completely impeached
02:02:43.815 --> 02:02:45.576
[UNKNOWN]: That's what's got a, if that's what's got to happen.
02:02:45.616 --> 02:02:47.037
[UNKNOWN]: That's what's got to happen to send a message.
02:02:47.357 --> 02:02:49.778
[UNKNOWN]: And my pushback would be you and the Democrats.
02:02:49.798 --> 02:03:00.523
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, if that's where I get, one of these, but if, if, if, if, if my get is that pure, there's no future, zero.
02:03:01.284 --> 02:03:02.244
[UNKNOWN]: You can't even hear it.
02:03:02.264 --> 02:03:03.725
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I, I can assure you with that.
02:03:04.838 --> 02:03:08.820
[UNKNOWN]: Trust me on this, I've tried to understand your plea.
02:03:08.880 --> 02:03:10.941
[UNKNOWN]: I've tried to engage in a fruitful debate.
02:03:11.541 --> 02:03:26.528
[UNKNOWN]: If MAGA, if the young MAGA voter is that pure and does not tolerate any imperfection, other than that political purity, it'll die long before I imagine it would.
02:03:27.049 --> 02:03:29.430
[UNKNOWN]: But you're acting like what we got.
02:03:30.423 --> 02:03:31.544
[UNKNOWN]: was effective.
02:03:31.644 --> 02:03:32.445
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
02:03:32.565 --> 02:03:33.226
[UNKNOWN]: It's unfair.
02:03:33.326 --> 02:03:35.788
[UNKNOWN]: I've argued against a lot of things Trump has done Josh.
02:03:36.068 --> 02:03:36.409
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
02:03:36.749 --> 02:03:40.052
[UNKNOWN]: And I get in trouble with our audience when I push back on things he's done.
02:03:40.072 --> 02:03:43.976
[UNKNOWN]: I was one of the early Trumpsters who opposed the war.
02:03:45.327 --> 02:03:47.148
[UNKNOWN]: But I said, this is a terrible decision.
02:03:47.648 --> 02:03:49.208
[UNKNOWN]: This will lead to terrible outcomes.
02:03:49.588 --> 02:03:50.969
[UNKNOWN]: This will lead to energy shocks.
02:03:51.389 --> 02:03:53.550
[UNKNOWN]: This will lead to political geopolitical uncertainty.
02:03:53.950 --> 02:03:57.151
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing I liked about what Trump did in February.
02:03:57.611 --> 02:03:59.751
[UNKNOWN]: And I can go back and play show after show.
02:04:00.092 --> 02:04:05.633
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be being consistent about my concern of where we'll end up if we do this.
02:04:06.013 --> 02:04:06.574
[UNKNOWN]: Now, he did it.
02:04:07.494 --> 02:04:10.455
[UNKNOWN]: Remember the Friday, all of us are greedy, probably
02:04:15.056 --> 02:04:16.857
[UNKNOWN]: There was some reports from the Wall Street Journal.
02:04:17.697 --> 02:04:20.519
[UNKNOWN]: I remember and I was like, I just don't think he'll do this.
02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:26.321
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's made some mistakes, but I think he understands how big a mistake this could be.
02:04:26.901 --> 02:04:28.902
[UNKNOWN]: And we didn't believe he would, but he did.
02:04:30.042 --> 02:04:30.763
[UNKNOWN]: And here we are.
02:04:31.863 --> 02:04:41.027
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm willing Josh to accept that political mistake, that imperfection, that problem that it brought about, but I can't bail.
02:04:41.838 --> 02:04:53.990
[UNKNOWN]: Because I know that there's no political movement that perfect, there's no political that movement that pure, there's going to be half, there's going to be half to be some forgiveness, there's some concessions, that's just the way the world works.
02:04:55.551 --> 02:05:00.456
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if I could create the world that can want to live in, it would be different than it is.
02:05:01.777 --> 02:05:03.899
[UNKNOWN]: But for the most part, have to meet the world where it is.
02:05:04.907 --> 02:05:28.135
[UNKNOWN]: And I have to balance what I want, what I'm willing to do, we set, but I'm not willing to accept with what reality is and the reality is, the more pure political movements are, the less effective they become, but because if one thing, if one thing is in stark contrast to political purity, it's politics, it requires you to Bob and we, it requires you to have been flow.
02:05:28.215 --> 02:05:33.217
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't say I like it, but there's a lot of things about life I don't like.
02:05:33.918 --> 02:05:46.781
[UNKNOWN]: This is my point is I feel like that's a little bit of a cop out to what I'm saying, which is I understand that you can't get a hundred percent of what you want all the time.
02:05:46.801 --> 02:05:47.641
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what you do.
02:05:47.781 --> 02:05:48.862
[UNKNOWN]: Especially in politics.
02:05:48.902 --> 02:05:49.582
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you do.
02:05:49.782 --> 02:05:55.003
[UNKNOWN]: But what I'm saying is, is if we are, okay, so there's a spectrum, which means there's a grade.
02:05:55.443 --> 02:05:57.624
[UNKNOWN]: You get a zero out of a hundred on a test.
02:06:04.566 --> 02:06:07.129
[UNKNOWN]: What I'm upset is, is that Trump didn't pass.
02:06:09.171 --> 02:06:09.831
[UNKNOWN]: That's your score.
02:06:10.152 --> 02:06:10.412
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:06:10.452 --> 02:06:10.772
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:06:10.792 --> 02:06:11.794
[UNKNOWN]: That's I'm going to finish that.
02:06:11.814 --> 02:06:14.617
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the increasing majority of the mega base.
02:06:14.677 --> 02:06:16.258
[UNKNOWN]: And I give him a passing grade.
02:06:17.800 --> 02:06:19.302
[UNKNOWN]: You give him a failing grade.
02:06:19.322 --> 02:06:20.323
[UNKNOWN]: Give him a 75.
02:06:20.383 --> 02:06:22.005
[UNKNOWN]: I give him a 50.
02:06:22.365 --> 02:06:24.908
[UNKNOWN]: That's a genuine disagreement we have.
02:06:27.915 --> 02:06:30.677
[UNKNOWN]: But there's, but to me, but the Democrats won't even give you a 50.
02:06:30.717 --> 02:06:35.720
[UNKNOWN]: But the, yeah, so I'd give the Democrats like a 10, but it's still failing.
02:06:35.780 --> 02:06:46.606
[UNKNOWN]: No, so my point is, if you want to, you know, don't reward the slightly better one because, well, they didn't get a 10, fail them both so that they can try to get better.
02:06:46.827 --> 02:06:49.828
[UNKNOWN]: And the poll say that young people feel that way.
02:06:51.109 --> 02:06:54.371
[UNKNOWN]: But it's not just Josh, the polling is very clear.
02:06:58.093 --> 02:07:00.005
[UNKNOWN]: If it's not good enough, you don't get my support.
02:07:00.970 --> 02:07:05.613
[UNKNOWN]: The older Republicans are saying, I don't think it's good enough, but you're much better than the alternative.
02:07:06.133 --> 02:07:07.574
[UNKNOWN]: Is that because the generational conflict?
02:07:07.594 --> 02:07:10.036
[UNKNOWN]: But are they feeling that way because Fuente has told him to?
02:07:10.576 --> 02:07:10.976
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:07:11.116 --> 02:07:12.037
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any idea.
02:07:12.157 --> 02:07:13.157
[UNKNOWN]: That's the top.
02:07:13.197 --> 02:07:26.946
[UNKNOWN]: If I could say this real quick, that's the thing is also, I do, and you would acknowledge that the boomers and the zoomers, even on the conservative side, yeah, we might be on the same side, but we're not in the same situation.
02:07:30.608 --> 02:07:35.030
[UNKNOWN]: The situation we're in is that we have nothing to lose.
02:07:35.551 --> 02:07:36.831
[UNKNOWN]: So why not roll the dice?
02:07:36.891 --> 02:07:37.332
[UNKNOWN]: Fair enough.
02:07:37.992 --> 02:07:38.532
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the phone.
02:07:38.552 --> 02:07:39.413
[UNKNOWN]: So was there.
02:07:39.433 --> 02:07:39.853
[UNKNOWN]: MFR.
02:07:39.953 --> 02:07:40.333
[UNKNOWN]: Good morning.
02:07:41.214 --> 02:07:42.034
[UNKNOWN]: Good morning, gentlemen.
02:07:42.675 --> 02:07:52.780
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to play Josh's advocate because I'll reduce lead back to the biggest, unforce air in politics, at least in the, at least in the last eight years.
02:07:53.581 --> 02:07:55.622
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to look back at February the 23rd.
02:07:56.705 --> 02:08:00.486
[UNKNOWN]: And when there's really intelligent set down and told Trump, we've got to go do this.
02:08:00.726 --> 02:08:05.047
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be the same thing as when Colin Powell sat there with the test tube full of speed.
02:08:05.067 --> 02:08:07.128
[UNKNOWN]: So there's weapons of mass destruction in the right.
02:08:07.628 --> 02:08:14.710
[UNKNOWN]: So here we go all far for a sugar high, getting the dude down in Venezuela and we take off and we start a war.
02:08:14.730 --> 02:08:16.891
[UNKNOWN]: We go kill him and it was like, there's no plan after that.
02:08:16.911 --> 02:08:18.691
[UNKNOWN]: Just like, let's kill their leaders and then what?
02:08:19.432 --> 02:08:20.252
[UNKNOWN]: I, I, I don't know.
02:08:20.292 --> 02:08:22.032
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody's explained why we went there.
02:08:22.212 --> 02:08:24.513
[UNKNOWN]: We went there to go, remove the nudes.
02:08:24.998 --> 02:08:28.801
[UNKNOWN]: that we supposedly killed back the midnight hammer of the dream prior to that.
02:08:28.841 --> 02:08:31.563
[UNKNOWN]: Then it was regime change.
02:08:31.583 --> 02:08:36.106
[UNKNOWN]: Then it was open the streets of our moves that were open before we started all this nonsense.
02:08:37.067 --> 02:08:41.851
[UNKNOWN]: But because of all of this, we don't, we can't focus on anything.
02:08:41.911 --> 02:08:45.093
[UNKNOWN]: We can't focus on Epstein files, we can't focus on the save act.
02:08:45.533 --> 02:08:47.715
[UNKNOWN]: We can't focus on mass deportations.
02:08:48.056 --> 02:08:50.018
[UNKNOWN]: We can't focus on inflation matter.
02:08:50.038 --> 02:08:54.563
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, we've exasperated the inflation problem by jacking up the energy cost.
02:08:54.583 --> 02:08:58.287
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think we've seen the bottom of that rabbit hole where it's going.
02:08:59.180 --> 02:09:05.124
[UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, and we're, we're, we're, we're keeping the gladiators in the Colosseum.
02:09:05.644 --> 02:09:08.586
[UNKNOWN]: We're worried about some sports field, but we can't pass anything.
02:09:08.946 --> 02:09:10.407
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing else that Congress can get through it.
02:09:10.427 --> 02:09:12.689
[UNKNOWN]: But we're, we're going to keep those gladiators in that Colosseum.
02:09:12.789 --> 02:09:13.449
[UNKNOWN]: One way or the other.
02:09:13.529 --> 02:09:17.992
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to do that because that's what people are going by attention to, which makes no sense whatsoever.
02:09:18.012 --> 02:09:19.073
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm of the opinion that,
02:09:19.537 --> 02:09:25.381
[UNKNOWN]: We've lost all of the momentum and probably the biggest chance in our lifetime to actually make a change.
02:09:25.481 --> 02:09:30.103
[UNKNOWN]: And Josh is pretty much right, there's going to be a bunch of people that are out and they're burned on this whole thing.
02:09:30.624 --> 02:09:31.945
[UNKNOWN]: And I get you're being pragmatic.
02:09:32.145 --> 02:09:32.665
[UNKNOWN]: I'm with you.
02:09:33.345 --> 02:09:36.407
[UNKNOWN]: But what's going to happen when we're being gone?
02:09:36.427 --> 02:09:38.509
[UNKNOWN]: You got Josh's group behind this.
02:09:39.649 --> 02:09:41.050
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not exactly sure what it looks like.
02:09:41.290 --> 02:09:45.453
[UNKNOWN]: The landscape will be a whole lot different because you're going to have DMs in charge for a long time after this.
02:09:51.188 --> 02:09:51.568
[UNKNOWN]: There we go.
02:09:52.088 --> 02:09:52.669
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, MFR.
02:09:52.689 --> 02:09:53.089
[UNKNOWN]: Appreciate.
02:09:53.109 --> 02:09:55.110
[UNKNOWN]: I can't disagree with any of that.
02:09:55.370 --> 02:09:56.691
[UNKNOWN]: I admit I've been pragmatic.
02:09:57.311 --> 02:10:04.935
[UNKNOWN]: I admit I'm accepting the lesser of two evils, but but I also believe as much as I thought it was a mistake in February.
02:10:05.755 --> 02:10:10.258
[UNKNOWN]: It's a bigger mistake as time goes on because as MFR said, there's no plan.
02:10:12.042 --> 02:10:14.063
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, what are we at war or not?
02:10:14.683 --> 02:10:16.164
[UNKNOWN]: What's the next phase of the war?
02:10:16.244 --> 02:10:18.665
[UNKNOWN]: If there's the next phase of the war?
02:10:18.725 --> 02:10:20.986
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we not escalating?
02:10:21.026 --> 02:10:22.227
[UNKNOWN]: What are we tending to?
02:10:22.327 --> 02:10:23.247
[UNKNOWN]: Are we negotiating?
02:10:23.707 --> 02:10:25.968
[UNKNOWN]: But there's no answer to any of these questions.
02:10:26.949 --> 02:10:35.893
[UNKNOWN]: And I believe right now, Rev, that our intelligence has agreed internally that Iran can escalate when they choose.
02:10:36.653 --> 02:10:38.354
[UNKNOWN]: And the best thing to do is pump the brakes.
02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:48.887
[UNKNOWN]: The best thing to do is hope the world's economy can survive this enemy energy shock, and I make it a prediction.
02:10:49.367 --> 02:11:01.176
[UNKNOWN]: If oil some way somehow goes back to 80 bucks a barrel, I ran but escalate and they'll attack a ship in the straight of almost or they'll attack a pot of liner or a pump station and it will be back to $110 a barrel oil.
02:11:03.332 --> 02:11:06.353
[UNKNOWN]: That's where we find the influence, the other.
02:11:06.373 --> 02:11:08.113
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let me, yeah, there's no doubt about it.
02:11:08.353 --> 02:11:11.814
[UNKNOWN]: And to show that you had no business picking to fight with Iran.
02:11:13.754 --> 02:11:25.196
[UNKNOWN]: The biggest mistake we made at the center of all of this, we terribly underestimated Iran's capacity and I don't, I hate to make that mistake.
02:11:25.216 --> 02:11:27.497
[UNKNOWN]: That's worse than air smit yesterday.
02:11:29.284 --> 02:11:38.372
[UNKNOWN]: somebody in our military industrial complex had to acknowledge how enduring the fighting spirit of the Persians is.
02:11:39.914 --> 02:11:48.942
[UNKNOWN]: They've lived the majority of their modern existence, Josh, under some sort of embargo, or, or, or, you know, what was the blockade?
02:11:48.962 --> 02:11:50.083
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, some sort of
02:11:55.740 --> 02:12:07.806
[UNKNOWN]: And as MFR said, because Rayleigh and American intelligence said that all their lead are their hard-line leaders will be in one location at one time, and it's the best chance we'll ever have to kill them.
02:12:08.947 --> 02:12:09.507
[UNKNOWN]: And we did.
02:12:10.868 --> 02:12:12.489
[UNKNOWN]: And what is better since then?
02:12:14.050 --> 02:12:15.010
[UNKNOWN]: What can you measure?
02:12:15.090 --> 02:12:19.653
[UNKNOWN]: What data point can someone call into this show and say Trump made the right call?
02:12:20.313 --> 02:12:21.153
[UNKNOWN]: Give me a data.
02:12:24.433 --> 02:12:26.695
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm willing to concede that we don't know.
02:12:27.736 --> 02:12:35.204
[UNKNOWN]: So if somebody out there's listening and they support the decision Trump made in February, what is encouraging out there?
02:12:36.045 --> 02:12:39.808
[UNKNOWN]: Do we know that Iran has less ability to enrich uranium?
02:12:40.489 --> 02:12:43.812
[UNKNOWN]: We think they do, but we thought that an operation meant not hammer.
02:12:44.493 --> 02:12:46.215
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're worried not mind, obliterated.
02:12:48.240 --> 02:12:54.204
[UNKNOWN]: But we made a decision on February 23rd as if that were the only decision we'd ever have to make.
02:12:55.365 --> 02:13:04.590
[UNKNOWN]: And since then, that there's been uncertain, he's been very kind about where we go from here.
02:13:04.851 --> 02:13:06.852
[UNKNOWN]: Take a break, we'll be back in just a few.
02:13:07.332 --> 02:13:13.056
[UNKNOWN]: We're back eight, four, three, six, six, one, oh, nine, three, seven, the point that I'm trying to make this morning is, you ready?
02:13:13.716 --> 02:13:14.697
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think.
02:13:15.848 --> 02:13:25.673
[UNKNOWN]: There's a chance we can explain the Iran war to independent voters in a way that leads to not getting what and the in the midterms.
02:13:26.334 --> 02:13:27.534
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't believe that, Rev.
02:13:28.415 --> 02:13:29.896
[UNKNOWN]: Um, could oil.
02:13:31.697 --> 02:13:35.980
[UNKNOWN]: have a swoon in price and energy become a little more, yeah, I'm a that could happen.
02:13:36.000 --> 02:13:46.566
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be seeing swings in the process of oil process of gas from 399 to 379 from 379 to 369 to 369 back to 399.
02:13:46.886 --> 02:13:48.567
[UNKNOWN]: That doesn't need to be a trading range.
02:13:48.907 --> 02:13:51.089
[UNKNOWN]: The trading range need to be 299 to do 59.
02:13:51.229 --> 02:13:53.410
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to get you back in the ball game.
02:13:54.050 --> 02:13:56.292
[UNKNOWN]: And I believe that if oil gets to a place,
02:13:57.052 --> 02:14:01.874
[UNKNOWN]: We're gas correlates to 2.59 or 2.29 or 2.39, I think I ran escalates.
02:14:03.434 --> 02:14:08.936
[UNKNOWN]: I think they control the majority of the processing of oil right now, because we're not all in.
02:14:08.956 --> 02:14:12.117
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we've not made the commitment to not just
02:14:13.412 --> 02:14:19.477
[UNKNOWN]: control or contain their uranium enrichment facility, but to aid and assist it up rising.
02:14:20.118 --> 02:14:21.939
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can't do that in a month.
02:14:21.979 --> 02:14:35.090
[UNKNOWN]: The only hope we have is that the polling of 2024 that oversampled significantly Harris voters, if you look at the polling, and I'm talking about mainstream polling.
02:14:36.257 --> 02:14:46.467
[UNKNOWN]: There was about a five million vote discrepancy in what the polls and the consensus of the polls said and where the election actually ended up.
02:14:46.868 --> 02:14:55.216
[UNKNOWN]: If the national pollsters, I'm not talking about your father, if the national pollsters to see any ends, the MSNBCs, the, well, that's a bad example.
02:14:55.236 --> 02:14:57.358
[UNKNOWN]: The Wall Street Journal, the NBC News.
02:14:57.418 --> 02:14:59.440
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, some of these established polls,
02:15:00.556 --> 02:15:14.685
[UNKNOWN]: or over sampling Harris voters with Jay obviously the head in 2024, Texas stage red, Ohio stage red, main stage red, Georgia, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina flips.
02:15:15.647 --> 02:15:16.688
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think we all agree to that.
02:15:16.748 --> 02:15:17.748
[UNKNOWN]: North Carolina is going to flip.
02:15:17.928 --> 02:15:32.376
[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't matter what the process is, doesn't matter what the polling set in North Carolina is going, uh, Roy Cooper's going to be a senator from North Carolina, um, but if there's an over-sampling of Harris voters, and it doesn't have to be five million, that's a national election.
02:15:32.396 --> 02:15:34.917
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you don't go over-sampled Ohio voters by five million.
02:15:35.198 --> 02:15:42.822
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, nobody's doing that, but that can put us in the game and some of these places that we've got to be in the in the game for.
02:15:43.586 --> 02:15:52.837
[UNKNOWN]: But trying to explain the Iran War and why we needed to do it, why had to be done, you know, why we made the right decision, that's a losing argument.
02:15:53.618 --> 02:15:57.743
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm convinced the less we talk about the Iran War, the better off we are.
02:15:59.805 --> 02:16:01.768
[UNKNOWN]: The Magabease is with Trump.
02:16:03.231 --> 02:16:05.393
[UNKNOWN]: That is enough to win a primary.
02:16:06.253 --> 02:16:07.754
[UNKNOWN]: It's not enough to win a general.
02:16:08.475 --> 02:16:16.200
[UNKNOWN]: And it's in particular not enough to win a general in some of these swingy states, like Ohio, like North Carolina, like Maine.
02:16:18.943 --> 02:16:23.326
[UNKNOWN]: If the polls have too many hairs voters, we're okay in Texas.
02:16:24.587 --> 02:16:31.292
[UNKNOWN]: If the polls have corrected themselves from then to now, we've got trouble in Texas.
02:16:32.385 --> 02:16:43.369
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I mean, think of this, Reib, the Republican brand right now is running behind a god name Abdul El Saiyad who may or may not be a Hamas sympathizer.
02:16:45.570 --> 02:16:46.950
[UNKNOWN]: And it's all about the Iran War.
02:16:49.131 --> 02:16:53.132
[UNKNOWN]: This enchantment with the Republican brand, let's go to the phone, someone's there.
02:16:53.572 --> 02:16:55.093
[UNKNOWN]: Sam and Cross Hill, good morning, Sam.
02:16:56.389 --> 02:16:57.289
[UNKNOWN]: Good morning.
02:16:57.510 --> 02:17:01.671
[UNKNOWN]: Great discussion this morning and I guess my question is of Josh.
02:17:01.711 --> 02:17:06.313
[UNKNOWN]: He just said that he had by taking his side of things.
02:17:06.353 --> 02:17:08.094
[UNKNOWN]: He says he has nothing to lose.
02:17:08.474 --> 02:17:10.015
[UNKNOWN]: I totally disagree with that.
02:17:10.435 --> 02:17:12.756
[UNKNOWN]: The young folks have everything to lose.
02:17:13.136 --> 02:17:18.438
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say that we do lose the midterms where it seems that we're going to do.
02:17:18.914 --> 02:17:29.462
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, what's Josh going to gain in I think what that could do is just a final line only into a total loss of everything in the 28 presidential election.
02:17:30.203 --> 02:17:33.345
[UNKNOWN]: What has Josh got to gain if that happens?
02:17:33.705 --> 02:17:35.186
[UNKNOWN]: I think he has everything to lose.
02:17:35.867 --> 02:17:36.547
[UNKNOWN]: That's my thoughts.
02:17:36.747 --> 02:17:37.948
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Sam, appreciate it.
02:17:37.988 --> 02:17:41.631
[UNKNOWN]: Josh, I want to characterize your opinion and let's you kind of say, yeah, your name.
02:17:47.416 --> 02:17:53.718
[UNKNOWN]: Is a more honorable and principled decision than me taking one for the whole team?
02:17:55.298 --> 02:17:55.538
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:17:55.638 --> 02:17:56.458
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, explain that.
02:17:57.479 --> 02:18:03.600
[UNKNOWN]: So I could be wrong, but this is just the way I think about politics.
02:18:03.640 --> 02:18:05.641
[UNKNOWN]: So that again, I could be wrong.
02:18:05.701 --> 02:18:08.321
[UNKNOWN]: This is just the way I think about politics.
02:18:08.401 --> 02:18:13.863
[UNKNOWN]: Is I think in our system, the founder said our system is for a moral people.
02:18:14.283 --> 02:18:15.063
[UNKNOWN]: The more we let in,
02:18:16.136 --> 02:18:23.623
[UNKNOWN]: The more we focus on capital and just looking out for ourselves and the more we let people in from the third world, the less moral our country becomes.
02:18:24.584 --> 02:18:27.207
[UNKNOWN]: And therefore, the more corrupt the system becomes.
02:18:27.227 --> 02:18:28.147
[UNKNOWN]: This is observable.
02:18:28.187 --> 02:18:29.389
[UNKNOWN]: We know this is the case.
02:18:29.769 --> 02:18:32.852
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Donald Trump himself is enriching himself as the president.
02:18:34.033 --> 02:18:38.600
[UNKNOWN]: So my thing is, if we're going to play, we have to stop acting.
02:18:38.620 --> 02:18:44.068
[UNKNOWN]: I think the idea that like this next election is the most important election in our lifetimes.
02:18:44.388 --> 02:18:48.915
[UNKNOWN]: I've heard that my entire life, and I'm sure you have, too, if we go back far enough.
02:18:50.270 --> 02:18:56.973
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it is, and my reasoning for that is that the people at the top aren't acting like it is.
02:18:57.774 --> 02:19:06.978
[UNKNOWN]: If this is the most important election on our lifetimes, why are Republicans solidifying their stake in it by passing the save act?
02:19:08.519 --> 02:19:13.221
[UNKNOWN]: Why are they allowing more immigrants from the third world to come here illegally?
02:19:13.761 --> 02:19:17.823
[UNKNOWN]: Why are they like dragging their feet on deportations?
02:19:19.240 --> 02:19:20.222
[UNKNOWN]: It makes no sense to me.
02:19:20.302 --> 02:19:24.590
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I can explain why, but that's kind of a size of point at the moment.
02:19:24.630 --> 02:19:26.193
[UNKNOWN]: My point is, is I actually think
02:19:27.015 --> 02:19:43.504
[UNKNOWN]: we would have a better future if Kamala won in 24 and the reason for that is is because she was because she was vastly impopular, it would just it would in rage people even more know it because we all think the 2020 election was stolen.
02:19:43.764 --> 02:19:48.427
[UNKNOWN]: Imagine if Kamala won in 24 off of how that presidential race went.
02:19:49.087 --> 02:19:52.209
[UNKNOWN]: There'd be a revolution that and that's my point.
02:19:52.269 --> 02:19:52.429
[UNKNOWN]: So
02:19:57.122 --> 02:20:05.444
[UNKNOWN]: the betrayal of this presidential Trump term, to persist, I think we're betraying ourselves more than we're betraying anything.
02:20:05.544 --> 02:20:07.785
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, that's where I've always thought you landed.
02:20:07.945 --> 02:20:12.026
[UNKNOWN]: And polo show a lot of other young people land, not every young person.
02:20:12.066 --> 02:20:13.646
[UNKNOWN]: I guess it's fair to paint with that broader brush.
02:20:13.967 --> 02:20:24.089
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a there some discernment, but Bajash, I think the argument you make is, I mean, it's kind of philosophical, and I think it's reasonable.
02:20:24.169 --> 02:20:26.150
[UNKNOWN]: I think your argument is very reasonable.
02:20:27.387 --> 02:20:35.455
[UNKNOWN]: The only thing that we have to remind ourselves over and over and over again, and I like to illustrate it with, you know, you go to a restaurant, you will stake.
02:20:37.057 --> 02:20:39.199
[UNKNOWN]: And you're hungry, but they don't have stake.
02:20:40.360 --> 02:20:41.481
[UNKNOWN]: They've got chicken and fish.
02:20:43.042 --> 02:20:47.347
[UNKNOWN]: And you either leave their hungry or you order chicken or fish.
02:20:48.570 --> 02:20:51.051
[UNKNOWN]: You don't sit there until the state becomes available.
02:20:51.711 --> 02:20:53.452
[UNKNOWN]: I make it's reasonable to won't stake.
02:20:54.252 --> 02:20:57.934
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's reasonable to not be happy with having accept the lesser of two evils.
02:20:57.954 --> 02:20:58.954
[UNKNOWN]: I read it yesterday, I read it.
02:20:58.994 --> 02:21:00.435
[UNKNOWN]: Yesterday, I read the evil of two lessers.
02:21:00.935 --> 02:21:03.176
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not.
02:21:03.516 --> 02:21:04.177
[UNKNOWN]: That's pretty good.
02:21:04.617 --> 02:21:05.317
[UNKNOWN]: I can't claim that.
02:21:05.357 --> 02:21:07.278
[UNKNOWN]: That was on X, the evil of two lessers.
02:21:07.878 --> 02:21:09.839
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I give somebody credit with that.
02:21:10.199 --> 02:21:12.240
[UNKNOWN]: But I just think you've got to.
02:21:12.740 --> 02:21:16.642
[UNKNOWN]: You've got to have been clued as part of the argument, Josh, that's a binary world.
02:21:17.775 --> 02:21:23.904
[UNKNOWN]: It's not, if I don't like this kind of shirt of that kind of car, this kind of food, I don't have a hundred different places to go.
02:21:24.725 --> 02:21:32.036
[UNKNOWN]: I am either going to put my decision to vote or not, and who I vote for is going to put one off two parties in charge.
02:21:32.677 --> 02:21:34.059
[UNKNOWN]: There is no option to see.
02:21:34.519 --> 02:21:38.144
[UNKNOWN]: There is no plan D. There is no door number four.
02:21:38.544 --> 02:21:40.387
[UNKNOWN]: It is one or the other.
02:21:41.008 --> 02:21:46.214
[UNKNOWN]: So when you make these arguments that I think have merit and I think they are reasonable arguments.
02:21:47.215 --> 02:21:50.239
[UNKNOWN]: The backdrop always has to be it's either or.
02:21:51.122 --> 02:22:08.179
[UNKNOWN]: It's either this parting in charge or that parting in charge and you yourself said that I probably give Trump a 75 or 80, you're giving before your 50, there is nobody on the other side of that binary choice because I know you will enough that you give better than a TN.
02:22:09.073 --> 02:22:09.273
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:22:09.773 --> 02:22:10.174
[UNKNOWN]: You're right.
02:22:10.254 --> 02:22:12.415
[UNKNOWN]: That has to be in my humble opinion.
02:22:12.455 --> 02:22:13.195
[UNKNOWN]: We disagree there.
02:22:13.595 --> 02:22:16.917
[UNKNOWN]: But I think that has to be part of the calculus.
02:22:17.017 --> 02:22:19.978
[UNKNOWN]: The way I see it because I do actually, I was thinking about that analogy.
02:22:19.998 --> 02:22:21.979
[UNKNOWN]: You brought up that analogy a week or two ago.
02:22:22.279 --> 02:22:23.940
[UNKNOWN]: And I've been thinking about it since then.
02:22:24.120 --> 02:22:28.082
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like this is a better way to describe how I feel using that analogy.
02:22:28.623 --> 02:22:35.126
[UNKNOWN]: Rather than saying, I go to one restaurant and this and it has chicken and it has fish, but I want steak.
02:22:35.546 --> 02:22:37.507
[UNKNOWN]: I think the way to say it is like this.
02:22:38.744 --> 02:22:39.745
[UNKNOWN]: There's two restaurants.
02:22:40.645 --> 02:22:42.806
[UNKNOWN]: One sells chicken, one sells steak.
02:22:43.867 --> 02:22:47.309
[UNKNOWN]: Chicken is closer to steak in my opinion, so I go to the chicken restaurant.
02:22:47.869 --> 02:22:48.790
[UNKNOWN]: I say, hey, what do you got?
02:22:49.430 --> 02:22:51.431
[UNKNOWN]: They say chicken, like, well, I want steak.
02:22:51.691 --> 02:22:52.732
[UNKNOWN]: I go, well, we don't have it.
02:22:53.552 --> 02:23:02.897
[UNKNOWN]: If every person who goes to that restaurant asks that same question, at some point, the restaurant owner has to say, maybe we should just be a steak restaurant.
02:23:03.598 --> 02:23:04.318
[UNKNOWN]: That's how I view it.
02:23:04.358 --> 02:23:07.300
[UNKNOWN]: And that's reasonable, I'm gonna do what's getting at, but that's not where we are.
02:23:08.389 --> 02:23:24.212
[UNKNOWN]: No, you think that's where work, you, I think it's possible and I'm willing to try and and young people are normally more idealistic than owners and 300 million people in this country pretty much Thank
02:23:25.308 --> 02:23:27.990
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they think differently and that makes this very different.
02:23:28.010 --> 02:23:28.951
[UNKNOWN]: Here's what I know.
02:23:29.892 --> 02:23:32.294
[UNKNOWN]: Josh has an opinion, I have an opinion you have an opinion.
02:23:32.815 --> 02:23:34.997
[UNKNOWN]: The one thing we all agree on, I think.
02:23:35.017 --> 02:23:35.938
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to speak for the man.
02:23:36.178 --> 02:23:40.402
[UNKNOWN]: The one thing we all agree on, there's not enough Josh's to whip the Democrats.
02:23:41.958 --> 02:23:44.000
[UNKNOWN]: There's not enough kids to whip the Democrats.
02:23:44.720 --> 02:23:46.722
[UNKNOWN]: There's not enough Dave to whip the Democrats.
02:23:47.323 --> 02:23:56.971
[UNKNOWN]: But if Ken Josh and Dave can agree to disagree, but still show up that Tuesday, there's enough of us to stop the other side from winning.
02:23:58.092 --> 02:24:01.576
[UNKNOWN]: And when I don't like a lot of things about my side,
02:24:02.851 --> 02:24:06.635
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to do everything in my power to stop the other side from winning.
02:24:07.215 --> 02:24:09.237
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's kind of sort of my obligation.
02:24:09.498 --> 02:24:10.058
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the phones.
02:24:10.078 --> 02:24:10.439
[UNKNOWN]: When was there?
02:24:10.859 --> 02:24:11.940
[UNKNOWN]: Steve in Florence.
02:24:11.960 --> 02:24:12.340
[UNKNOWN]: Good morning.
02:24:12.360 --> 02:24:12.621
[UNKNOWN]: Steve.
02:24:14.823 --> 02:24:17.205
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be already this year.
02:24:17.325 --> 02:24:22.450
[UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking we're ready for a new party, like an independent America first party.
02:24:22.951 --> 02:24:27.095
[UNKNOWN]: That was all excited for maga when I heard America first.
02:24:28.069 --> 02:24:31.754
[UNKNOWN]: America first anymore seems like it went to that is real first.
02:24:32.054 --> 02:24:34.897
[UNKNOWN]: How would you guys feel about a third party to real everybody back in?
02:24:35.638 --> 02:24:36.219
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, sir.
02:24:36.299 --> 02:24:37.000
[UNKNOWN]: Appreciate that.
02:24:37.040 --> 02:24:43.928
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that if somebody said, okay, keen to get your one political wish of a lifetime, a vibrant, effective, competitive third party.
02:24:44.528 --> 02:24:47.492
[UNKNOWN]: There is no doubt the doopoli is failed America.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Republican and Democrat party have failed to effectively and efficiently govern and transact this country's affairs and Americans deserve a third alternative.
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[UNKNOWN]: But these two parties have done one thing amazingly well.
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[UNKNOWN]: They have enshrined themselves into our system of government in a way that is almost impossible to be uprooted.
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[UNKNOWN]: I am absolutely in favor of a third party.
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[UNKNOWN]: How do we get there?
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think it's almost impossible.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a break.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll be back in just a few.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're back eight, four, three, six, six, one, o' nine, three, seven.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the phone summons there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Scott, in Florence, good morning, you're on the air.
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[UNKNOWN]: I love the banter, very serious issues.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I kind of want to refocus from the restaurant analogy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I really think that more Apple would be if Josh
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, when he voted for Trump, he thought he was getting a Mercedes and he got a lemon in.
02:25:55.687 --> 02:25:56.968
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't such a good car.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he said next time I'll show them.
02:25:59.650 --> 02:26:09.035
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go buy me a you guy except he's going to end up buying the you guy and literally and you'll have to do some research on what a you guy was.
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[UNKNOWN]: He bought the you guy.
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[UNKNOWN]: But he's going to pay the price of a Bentley or Rolls Royce.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's the problem.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've got to look forward, not how to have this pine the sky and get it teach them a lesson.
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[UNKNOWN]: They didn't do what they exactly said.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have no reason to understand or no knowledge why we did Iran.
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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't seem logical given Trump's positions.
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[UNKNOWN]: But maybe he was right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm dead, sir.
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[UNKNOWN]: Trump wasn't getting the tail of Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: especially with Trump.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's that great listener, and would be manipulated like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it would be a bigger manipulation, deep state, you know, people eye up for 20, 28 jumping off the Trump train, getting back on your Bush GOP model.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just don't
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, a may banker, a myboc or a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess, yeah, look it up, Josh.
02:27:42.269 --> 02:27:43.230
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let me get a picture.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a sign fail watcher.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do our sign fail, but I consider myself somewhat politically informed and astute if I knew where I was.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Trump does, and Trump's a smart guy.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he made go about it in a different way, but I mean Trump measures public opinion and I mean I can assure you they have daily briefings and he knows where the problems are he knows that the Iran war is highly in popular.
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[UNKNOWN]: I would argue the reasons we had to do it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And all he says is they were a week or two away from a nuclear weapon.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think the only angle that I would take, I mean, if I were Trump and I'm not, but if I were, I would want a detailed and specific breakdown of why we did what we did, what we accomplished, what would have happened had we not accomplished it?
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[UNKNOWN]: But they've not done any of that and it leads me to believe that they don't really know what they've accomplished or not.
02:28:48.999 --> 02:28:52.520
[UNKNOWN]: They don't really know what the situation is on the ground and tear on.
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[UNKNOWN]: They don't really know how much damage they've done to the ability to enrich uranium.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because if I had integrated clarity, I would be my argument.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know that I would ever be supportive or not.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somebody asked me a couple of weeks back.
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[UNKNOWN]: Would you be supportive of over the long run, arming the Iranians?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know that doesn't happen in a month or two or three.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's a decade long endeavor.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, probably.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'd probably be in favor of some, you know, secret operation, the armed Iranians, and, you know, kind of taste their appetite for, you know, regime change.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know that we've done any of that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the wrong.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's almost there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Got a couple of minutes.
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[UNKNOWN]: His Jim and Florence, hi, Jim.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, if the all spent half the energy lecturing the Republican, does you do lecturing Josh?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that we're lecturing Josh.
02:29:46.133 --> 02:29:47.013
[UNKNOWN]: We're debating Josh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Again, not you can, but in general, if this new maga sort of speaks, instead of the old maga, you know, the Lindsey Graham's or the world, the now darling Graham's or the world, the John Thunes, the Carl Rose, you know, you know.
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[UNKNOWN]: But see, Jim, I think that's faux maga.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they've, I don't think they've ever been maga.
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[UNKNOWN]: But, you know, the people in charge who can actually do something, who have had an opportunity to do something through it all the way.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now I'm stuck with darling Graham.
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[UNKNOWN]: Darling Graham.
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[UNKNOWN]: Did you watch her make an absolute idiot of herself?
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's what I'm expected to vote for.
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[UNKNOWN]: Really?
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[UNKNOWN]: Really.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm Alan Darley and I'll vote for other Republicans, but not Darley.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's fair.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to get it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I understand it.
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[UNKNOWN]: All I'm trying to do that most others won't.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's facilitated conversation.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't think, I mean, at times, I chastised Josh, because he irks me to know Ian, but for the most part, I'm trying to laugh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Really, he lectures us more than we lecture him.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's just some degree.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: At times, we probably need lecturing.
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[UNKNOWN]: The lecturing will continue tomorrow.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's six o'clock, five, enjoy your day.