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I'm a man who believed that I died 20 years ago.
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And I live like a man who is dead already.
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I have no fear whatsoever of anybody or anything. My
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name is Gary Webb, I am an investigative journalist and
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in 1996 I wrote.
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A series of stories in time of Dark Alliance which
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was about CIA involvement in drug trafficking.
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I knew a.
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Man who once said death smiles at his home.
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All a man can do is smile back.
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We're both in skull and bone with the secret society.
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It's so sick that we can't talk about it.
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What does that mean for America?
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The conspiracy theorists.
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Are going to go wild.
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I'm sure they are.
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I don't know.
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I haven't seen the rest of them. Number 322?
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I have duty to report this afternoon that my friend
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and colleague, Tim Russell, collapsed and died early this afternoon.
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I may die in this cell tonight or in the
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arena tomorrow.
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I am a slave. What possible difference can I make?
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And no official of my administration, whether his rank is
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high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words
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here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to
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stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold
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from the press and the public the facts they deserve
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to know.
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Hello, welcome back to your favorite live weekly call-in parapolitical
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or conspiracy show, whether you're trying to dress it up
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or dress it down. Glad to be back with my
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arty deadheads. I know I was absent for a little while.
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I had a lot of kiddie conundrums, but we are
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sort of back. I'm almost back to 100%. Hopefully be
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back with a dump tomorrow, but... Me and Austin, we did,
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for those who are craving a little bit more of us,
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we did recently just record another one of our occult
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theater with the Schizo Bros. Absolutely awesome episode. I really
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think it was great. Almost three hours. a longer breakdown
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on a film than the film itself. And it's a
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long film, so there you go. I think you'll really
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enjoy it, especially if you're an anime fan, and if
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you're looking for something in a weird, sort of an
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inversion of the sort of stuff we normally talk about
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in a wholesome sort of way. So kind of, I think,
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a nice change of pace. Although today might be a
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little bit different. I've already seen a number of people
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in the chat, even more to the effect of where
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I'm kind of just kind of surprised by what's going
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on here, but this elephant graveyard thing. So I think
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we'll be talking about that a lot today. Uh, but
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before we get into all that and all the negativity and, uh,
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hopefully we don't reignite the brother wars, the water wars
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don't reignite in a different form, you know? Uh, but
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either way, uh, looking to get into that. Um, but Austin,
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how was, how's your week? Uh, have you missed me?
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I'm glad to be back. Although we, we talked just
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a few hours the other day. It's like, I can't
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get away from you, but, But I really enjoyed that conversation.
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I really can't emphasize how much I did. I wish
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I had more time. I felt like I was a
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little bit rushing it there at the end, but I
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still feel like we did a very good job. But
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at some point, I do have stuff I got to do,
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and everyone can do six-hour streams like your most recent
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stream of consciousness.
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I don't even know how that happened. Man, I swear.
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Once I finished.
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The episode, I stood up and I walked out into
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the living room, and I like had an out of
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body experience to such an extent that I couldn't feel
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my legs. Like it was like my entire, I hadn't
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eaten all day. Like it was a struggle. Six hours
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is too much. Like, honestly, that's, that's an insane person. Uh, but,
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but I was in the chat literally advocating for you.
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Like you need to be careful. This is why I
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need a divorce.
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Like you need to have some sort of separate it's
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you'll lose your mind this game. Cause the audience tells
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you something different. I was looking at the chat and
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they're going, Austin, Austin, go longer, go longer, go longer.
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I'm the one soul guy is like, dude, what are
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you doing?
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Awesome.
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Put away the headphones, turn around, live to podcast another day.
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What are you doing? I know.
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So my problem was I had a vision going in.
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And so I was desperate to achieve that vision. And
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the problem was in no way did I factor in
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an entire segment dedicated to nine 11, which it just
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spur of the moment I thought might as well. And, um,
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And yeah, an hour later, I realized that was a mistake,
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even though it probably was important to address. But at
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the same time, it's like there's a reason that I
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need to do the stream of consciousness. But I also
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think there's like this balance that I've very much has
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always eluded me as far as just having any real
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sense of balance in my own lifestyle. Like it's always
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been a problem, right? As far as like I'm all in.
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or I'm all out, like it's in from one extreme,
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or the other. And so it's been like this, this
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difficult thing to manage for, honestly, my entire life. But,
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but I do think there's, there's something to as far
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as the value to to the stream of consciousness and
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getting that out, because it definitely there's a desperation to
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get some of that out. And, and, and also, I
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feel like I have the time and I can be
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a little bit more patient in that sense, and in
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terms of my presentation, but but yeah, six hours is just,
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that's like not unfeasible for, for, it's not, it's definitely
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unsustainable as far as like, uh, just going through your
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daily process and, and, uh, yeah, having a lifestyle that's, that's, uh, again,
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sustainable enough and manageable to.
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Manage other human relationships, which is besides the parasocial ones
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we've created on here, which I think we'll sort of
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be talking about a little bit of the opposite side
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of this parasocial relationship, uh, of the big daddies of, uh, of, uh,
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you know, what our audience is to us, what we
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are to them, or the hierarchy. We'll be talking about
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the big doggies today, the big fish in the pond.
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So that parasocial aspect of all of this with the
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elephant graveyard. But if you want to dive right into it,
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I'm sorry if I didn't mean to step on you
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if you had some natural other small talk banter you
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wanted to get into. But I have a feeling we're
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going to be circling around this one for a while.
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And I wouldn't be at least as surprised if we
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end up having some callers interested in getting into the mix.
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That will be open here soon. I guess I'll go
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ahead and list off the phone lines. I'll tell you
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when they're open later, but it's going to list them
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off now.
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1-833-722-3323.
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That's 1-833-722-DEAD. They're not open yet, but they should be
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very soon. I'll let you know when they're open, but
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if you want to go and get that in there.
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uh but yeah austin um it sounds like peter teal
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got to you from my conversation before the show but
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i guess we real quick i will kind of introduce
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what this even is and i guess even my introduction
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to what even i've heard people talk about elephant graveyard
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in passing to me it was like i didn't really
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know anything about it aside from some people mentioning it
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whatever and it just recently past few days i saw
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a couple chats going elephant graveyard elephant graveyard i'm like
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what the fuck and then like So I want to
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go check it out. And it's like this long-ass video
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kind of edited of the comedy scene. And you come
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to find apparently he's like some SAS. He just kind
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of semi-irregularly puts these out. The last one apparently made
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a whole bunch of waves and puckered a bunch of
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buttholes and kind of sort of almost broke containment. I'm
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kind of speaking on my ass a little bit. I
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remember it had like I think a few million views
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or something. But that one really kind of got a
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lot of people worked up. So it was in the
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range of like kind of a a decent JRE sort of,
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you know, episode sort of numbers. Well, this recent one
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came out, and so all these people have puckered up.
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It's been well over a year, so they probably, it's
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almost like you almost forgot about it, and then whoop,
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here comes the BBC getting dropped on the table. And
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then so it's like, whoa, oh shit, so it got
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dropped again. And this newest one that dropped, and so
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there's been, this is kind of a new scrambling of
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kind of dealing with this commentary, and I had not,
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like I said, not really been introduced to the guy
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aside from just some mentioning. I watched, my introduction to
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him was this latest video, and I got the impression,
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I mean, I generally kind of enjoyed it. It was
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kind of fun. I mean, I got the impression me
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and him definitely probably have some differences of opinion when
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it comes to politics. He's probably a little bit more
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vicious in some places than I would be, but obviously
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he's also been kind of tracking this for a while,
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and like I said, I don't think we entirely agree,
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so I can kind of see maybe why He may
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be a little bit more vicious in other ways than others,
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but either way, I don't fucking, I generally kind of agreed.
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He was kind of mostly repeating a lot of the
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stuff I've been saying for a while, but in kind
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of a well done essay, kind of, you know, kind
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of a, you know, nice, just kind of perfectly brings
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an audience along. Kind of, we were talking about a
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little before, almost kind of like schizo slop. I don't know.
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It's debatable whether you want to call it slop, but
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at the very least it was easy to the eye.
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The production value was there, so it kind of is
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the nice, you know, carries you along the path type
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of way of what I've been saying for a while,
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but with slightly different characterizations here and there. But attacking,
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this one really did attack a lot of the Rogan sphere.
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It really kind of was the same of a lot
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of the one before, and... Like I said, part of
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me was just more like, wow, I'm kind of surprised
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it's such a big deal. But I guess it's just
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more to, I feel like at least the message that
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I've been kind of saying a lot of stuff seems
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to have been somewhat resonating. A lot of people seem
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to be seeing the cracks in uh certain people who
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were elevated to you know in the spheres of power
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and i think people are starting to see it and
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this is why some of this stuff is starting to
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resonate but either way this latest one seemingly has broken
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containment i believe the views are somewhere in the realm
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of the previous video uh but only within the past
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few days so it's like in the millions it's only
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been up for a few days i believe already So
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a lot of people scrambling. We've already seen a couple
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people semi-respond to it. But either way, I generally enjoy it.
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I'd recommend people go check it on your own, develop
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your own opinions. Because I'm not necessarily married to literally
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everything in there, obviously. But there's a lot of agreement
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there between a lot of the things I've said. I mean,
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it's pretty obvious stuff. I think for most people in
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this audience, it's kind of obvious stuff. But it was
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kind of put together in a nice way that maybe
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you could probably send to a buddy who might be
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interested in some sort of semi-schizophrenic, well-put-together presentation, like, hey,
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here's what I've been telling you for a while. Like,
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this right here, sort of, but, like, not perfectly. Like,
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that's my impression. I don't really know. I'm not married
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to anything about Elephant Graveyard. I don't know. I've seen
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some people try to attack him that he's, I don't know,
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some sort of fighting against right-wing populism, and he has
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some acts to grind. He's Canadian. I don't fucking know.
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At the end of the day, it's like, did the
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message resonate? And I think it did, and I think
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the the views, unless we're arguing there's some sort of
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inorganic aspect here, I think it's resonating with people. So
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I think that's something that people need to grapple with.
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And unfortunately, the people in their walled garden don't seem
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to want to grapple with it, it seems.
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How dare you.
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The programming is set in, Austin. But go ahead, Austin.
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You can lay out your thoughts. Go ahead and lay
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out the bullet points presented to you by Peter. I'm joking, guys.
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I'm joking. I want to be very clear. I've referred
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to you as my handler in the past, and I
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make silly jokes, and I forget we are in a
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schizophrenic audience, and a lot of times people then literally
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build their little fucking Charlie fucking boards, and then they're like.
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austin's oh jose is austin's handler i'm telling you every
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time he's like pull away austin he doesn't want to
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do seven hours he's trying to not get the the
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truth revealed to the.
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People as soon as you said that on tinfoil hat
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like there there were definitely people reaching out like.
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I can't believe he even said it he said.
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It out loud you know what they do they have
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to tell you the luciferians.
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Exactly hey we've had these conversations you know it's like
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it's it's it's a slippery slope, you know, the, the, and,
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and I do think that we have to, we have
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to always remain objective and be willing to address, uh,
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you know, strange synchronicities and then also glaring overt, you know, uh,
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obvious connections that should be, I think acknowledged.
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And as far as, but I will say like, in
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terms of the slippery slope, it just becomes this kind
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of self-fulfilling prophecy in a way, once you get down
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a specific, and the reason that I referenced it as
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schizo slop is because I felt as.
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If my personal view.
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So just upon starting the episode, like I felt instantly
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that the elephant graveyard is straight up schizo slop. And
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my original thought was, first of all, you already know
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that I have my own questions about Rogan's connections to
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Peter Thiel and, and his glaring blind spot, which I
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view as, as, as far as like, and I'm not,
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I'm saying blind spot in, in a kind of, um, um,
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generous way, right. Just as far as like, as much
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as I'm aware, it seems to be a glaring blind spot,
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whether that is by compromise or by, you know, a
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vulnerability psychologically or, or intellectually or whatever the case may be,
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or even a self-fulfilling kind of like, um, You want
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to protect your assets, right? Once you get to a
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certain level, I think that many people should understand that
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that's also a factor. Now, this is in no way
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a desperate attempt to defend any of these individuals or
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their personalities. I don't know these people, but I will
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say as far as my personal perspective on this presentation,
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which is all I can basically analyze, there were so
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many connections that were made that were extraordinarily valuable. things
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that we've discussed, you know, very deeply in the past
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as well, not necessarily as deep down the specific comedy
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industry rabbit hole, as far as the specific personalities and
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the comedians involved in the presentation that were receiving, that
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were being targeted directly, I would say it wasn't only
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comedians because there was like littered throughout the presentation, you know,
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kind of brief asides targeting various political personalities that are
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very much prominent as well. And, And especially I think,
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and especially just like, I think glaring examples of Peter
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Thiel's acolytes were very much being represented in this presentation
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and by design, because that was his intention of kind
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of like where he was going with the conclusion as well.
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But here's my issue.
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First of all, the sound of someone loudly sipping a
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liquid is absolutely infuriating to me.
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I just have to mention that, you.
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Know, at, just off the cut at, it was so
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maddening just for me sitting there and hearing him as
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he was recording his own voice, overlaying this video of
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all these, these clips that he had kind of, uh, uh,
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produced and, and, uh, and obviously, you know, he had
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attempted to, to, and that was another thing, right?
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Like at least show your face in the, in that sense, right.
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As far as I understand because I do that with
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my solo projects, uh, but I also don't have images, right.
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That are very much a part of the presentation at
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some point, I hope to evolve that process. But at
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the same point, it's like, it was frustrating because this
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is my pet peeve. Personally, uh, there's nothing worse as
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far as like nails on a chalkboard times a thousand, then,
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then sipping a liquid, uh, purposely on audio, as you
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have this kind of like, uh, overwhelming, uh, sense of, of, um,
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it seemed as if like, what's the term whenever you
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are overly confident in your perspective and opinion as if
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this is kind of a certainty that there's no room
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for discussion or debate whatsoever. And that's how the information
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is being presented in the first place. It was disingenuous
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as how it felt. But I also felt like beyond
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the sipping of a liquid that infuriated me.
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Real quick, I do want to note before we move on,
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because I have a feeling, because this is how this
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stuff is broken down. And I got to be very clear,
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because you already, I don't know if you're necessarily doing it.
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I think it's the autism speaking. I don't think you're
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trying to poison the water. But I want to point out,
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I wasn't even aware. I didn't even think of this
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until you pointed out. So for anyone out there.
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I mean, everything. It's like, dude, what are you doing?
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So there were sound effects and things added in. So
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I will say, if you are one of these people,
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a little more... More sensitive to these sort of things,
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then yes. But I'm saying it didn't bother me. It
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obviously didn't bother a lot of people, but I get it.
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That is, I just want to throw that out there.
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But it is how these things are devoured is like
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people like me and you watch the full thing or
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we don't even watch the full thing and then break
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it down and act like we don't watch the full thing.
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And then people like our audience then go and repeat
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it after not having not watched the full thing. So
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I just want to throw that out there. You were miserable,
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didn't bother me out there. But so for like anyone,
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you know, thinking this is like, oh my God, Austin,
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different people. This is apparently a big deal for us
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and it's not for other people. And I totally get that.
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That's your struggle. I just want to let you, for
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the purpose of the audience, this is more of an
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Austin struggle. Maybe there's a larger population of people that
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feel this way too. I totally get it. I understand
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rationally why it would bother somebody.
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Feel free to go pull a bong or rip a
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bong on your own time. Why are you forcing that
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into the ears of.
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A mass audience?
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It just, again, it's like, in every way, it was
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the way in the emotional tone to the presentation. It felt, again,
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the term is eluding me as far as the way
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in which it's went smug, like there was smug attached
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to it, but it's not the term I'm looking for.
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It was a smug presentation in the way in which
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that he was speaking. And just again, the tone very
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much was set in that sense. And I felt as
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if in no way, like there's a way in which
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you can criticize people and criticize personalities with good intentions.
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And the bet, right, as far as like the way
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in which you're presenting the information is more so in
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a positive light. And you're not necessarily just performing an
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out and out character assassination of a person you've never met, right?
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And especially with the alluding to strange connections that aren't
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entirely confirmed in every aspect of the allegations that he
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was attaching them to.
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And so I, I find that interesting.
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And I, I wrote many of them down, but I
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just wanted to say that it felt very much like
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he sounded to me like a bitter failed comedian launching
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attacks against the juggernauts of the industry who only made
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things worse in my opinion, by even responding to this guy.
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Right.
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Because even mentioning his channel, it felt like was a
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major mistake as far as I'm concerned. If, if, uh,
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You're one of these personalities who who he's deliberately targeting
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in that sense. And and also within like the first
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15 minutes, the only worthwhile criticism that that I could
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personally find was the potential example of Tony Hinchcliffe stealing
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a joke from from.
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Oh, OK. So the joke stealing. OK, so you that
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was one thing that got on you because I was like.
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kind of you're talking some things got there were some
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things i just kind of like i don't fucking care
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i will say on both sides of this the whole
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i think that's kind of what he was he gets
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into the like the lore of rogan and is like
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the joke stealing with mencia i'll be honest every time
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rogan would ever go into that i kind of eyes
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glaze over this sounds like some gay tea drama that
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somebody's rehashing that i don't really care to hear and
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that's how it always kind of feels really with any
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sort of joke stealing anything or other unless you're like
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showing me like a legit straight rip and like i
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mean even then it's like sometimes people really don't even
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don't even realize and it just does legitimately come back
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to them in the same exact syntax and they don't
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even realize that like oh yeah that's because you heard
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it in austin three weeks ago or something like that
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like you don't realize that income natural that's just what
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popped in your head and was floating around your subconscious
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So I think that's gay. So I will say getting
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into that abstract territory, but I will say part of
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the point of why he went through pains of that
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is because of the lore of Rogan. And I will
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say the impression I got is he was kind of
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being like, this specific getting into the weeds of joke
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ceiling is kind of gay. And that was this kind
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of point. And they're like, well, look at these fuckers,
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look what you're doing. But I would agree with you
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that I would just not even go into there at
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all because it is like, you're already in this mamby
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pamby abstract territory where you're never, you're kind of, you're
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kind of shadow boxing ghosts. Like you're never really going
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to be able to hit anything really hard there because
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it's all just gay faggot shit at that point.
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That was the term I was looking for earlier.
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Okay.
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I couldn't remember it for the life of me.
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But that was the sort of tone that I felt
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personally from this person. And I do understand what you're
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saying as far as like, you know, what his intention
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might have been as far as that's which I again,
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who knows? Like he could have had a conversation with
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that girl and she could have even, you know, signed
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off on him using that in his act.
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Like you never know.
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Right.
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Like there are ghostwriters for many comedians who it could
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just be. him rewording it in his own way that
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he would then perform that joke in his act. And,
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and so it's, this is no like complete and total
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condemnation just with that specific clip or aside.
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And, and even that is like, okay, you know, so what?
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It's like, that's kind of the nature of the business
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in a real sense. Like Dane Cook is famous for
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stealing everybody's material. We all know Carlos Mencia did it,
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you know, it's just like the way now it's not,
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it's not.
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Yeah.
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I will say the point he was driving it with Rogan.
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I will say, I was never someone who really did
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dwell on it much, but if I'm going to be essentially,
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I guess, forced to dwell on it in a little
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bit more context, it does look really gay in retrospect.
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And it does kind of look like a lot of the...
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It really was just kind of came off this... I
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don't know. It did come off as just really faggoty.
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I guess it's the most simplistic way to say it
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does come not... And I know you're talking about some
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of these people. The problem is you were talking about
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these behemoths of the industry.
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Yeah.
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And like.
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The problem is we almost end up with this weird
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Voldemort problem, which with Rogan, people like him have done
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a lot of great things for the industry and have
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brought up a lot of big names and stuff. But
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then there becomes this thing where we're like, yeah, but
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we can't point out Rogan's not funny. Not saying you,
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but I'm just saying that. But then we get these
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smuggling in of Rogan essentially surrounding himself with funny people.
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Who then, you know, so then it kind of becomes
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this conflation as if people are attacking these funny people.
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This is where this walled garden kind of thing comes in.
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This idea of, oh, we're just attacking these these behemoths
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in the industry. And we're like, no, no, people were
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talking to, they're mostly shit talking you, Joe, and really
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giving these people crap about the proximity and the way
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in which they are behaving towards it. And, and some
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people didn't get heat in this. And like, for example,
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I mean, I guess I won't go into it, but
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there's people who are in the close proximity to Joe
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or whatever, don't really get heat because the way that
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they have interacted with the Rogan sphere has not been
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in the way that some others have. And so that's
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why others have gotten more heat and others have not.
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So I think there is a way to position yourself
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in proximity to Rogan and you don't have to put
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your neck on the line of like the credibility of him.
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And you also don't need to go out of your
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way to be shitting on Rogan because, I mean, it
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is weird. I mean, I do think it's if you
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are being directly called, called upon about something or if
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you are going out of your way to address something.
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I do think that's a different thing, but I totally
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get the idea of somebody's your boy or someone's done
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a lot for you. And like, I mean, depending on
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maybe what it is, you do give some level of
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deference of like, I'm just not even going to get
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into this. By the way, phones lines are open. I
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don't know if I mentioned that earlier.
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Personal taste ranges the full complete spectrum. As you mentioned earlier,
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like this didn't affect you in the same way where
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I was entirely miserable and I fucking hated this guy.
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Right.
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So like, like me honestly.
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And so it's like, imagine now that being applied directly
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to our taste in comedians and comedy in general. It's
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like we might have a very different taste in which
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comedians are on our top five list or whatever, who
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we appreciate their acts more than the others. I'm just
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using an example of the range in which people internalize comedy.
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So I think Joe Rogan's had some very funny jokes
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in the past, honestly. And for anybody to, yeah, very
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much so. And you don't make it to that level
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without having very, well-produced comedy skit or skits and as
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far as like your bits and your your act in
519
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general being very much I think at least valuable in
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terms of what what it it embodies as far as
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the message in itself and also having some.
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You know comedic attachment.
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To it with with the specific bits and in regard
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to the jokes but I'm telling you like you're not
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at that level of without actually being able to formulate
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a proper set.
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Like, that's all I'm saying.
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And I just, I've gone to live comedy so many
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times in my life and I don't do it as
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often now, but I used to go to the store
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a lot, right? And so I just, I saw so
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many different comics. I saw Kurt Metzger before he ever
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blew up, you know, in the digital space. And, you know,
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he was a killer back then and late night at
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the store. And it's just like, I think comedy is
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a very, it's a very unique medium. And so I
537
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just think that people should, should remind themselves as well.
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Like just because you think a comedian isn't funny whatsoever and,
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and you can't remember a set or a special that
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they've ever done that you can appreciate, or even one of,
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one of the jokes in the, in the entire set,
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you couldn't even appreciate. I feel like maybe you weren't
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entirely exposed to, to everything I've ever done. And look, man,
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I'm not saying he's any, he's even close to my,
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one of my top favorite comedians, as far as that specific, like,
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I didn't know Rogan for, you know, his, his comedic talent. Like, honestly,
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when I, whenever I first was introduced to him, many
548
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people didn't, you know, but, but I at least learned
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to appreciate, you know, the high level of, of just
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the high level comedians within the industry and the medium itself,
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as far as understanding talent and and it's just for
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me i feel like if you're not being you're not
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being objectively honest with yourself if you can't acknowledge that
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he at least possesses extraordinary talent and.
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Um i i do got to point out i think
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you kind of hit the nail on the head i'm
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gonna have to vehemently disagree with you i i genuinely
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can't recall i mean there's things that i've minorly chuckled
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at with joe but like i've never really considered him
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i've watched a few of his specials Uh, but what
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you were pointing, I think the value he brings.
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I thought the Harvey Weinstein bit was hilarious. Like, come on.
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He's like, maybe I'd have to, I have to literally
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listen to it.
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I don't recall.
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He's talking about how basically, uh, if his son came
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to him and said, uh, you know, Hey, I, they're
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trying to cast me as Batman, but unfortunately I got
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to suck Harvey Weinstein's dick.
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You know what I mean? And he's like, Looks like
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you're going to be Batman, brother. You know what I mean?
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Like that's basically I'm doing. It's completely butchered.
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But like, honestly, the way in which that he presented
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that that bit, it was fucking funny.
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And in context, I personally saw it as as as
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funny and humorous. So, you know, whatever. You can disagree
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with that. That's not the point I'm even making. I'm
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just saying that.
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We all have different perspectives as far as what we
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value artistically and what we can appreciate comedically and All
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of these things matter, and don't get me wrong.
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Real quick, you were hitting on something there that you
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were mentioning, like not being able to recognize talent or whatever.
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And I am saying I'm disagreeing with you in the
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talent that somebody like a Rogan has comedic talent. I mean,
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I think he has enough to kind of get by.
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I think he has relationship talent, and he has talent
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at identifying talent. So I think, and that is the thing,
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he has elevated those around him Uh, in the, and
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because of that, it's sort of walled him off from
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any sort of criticism, which I mean, maybe we can,
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I don't know how much, I mean, I guess maybe
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you want to go to somewhere else with it, but
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I think there are ways we can understand this without
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him being entirely sinister. I mean, it is to a
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degree of like, this is a grown man. I don't
597
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need to hold his hand this much. And it's like,
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come on, dude. Like, but I do think there is
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some aspect of like going, uh, on these, you know,
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going on these lunch dates with some of these powerful billionaires.
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And it's like, right.
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I mean, I don't know, maybe somebody like a Rogan
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I can sort of, you know, forgive of being bamboozled
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like that. I mean, there are other people I forgive
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far less, like a Dave Smith, because the idea that, like,
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you know, I guess that he, I don't know for
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sure if he's ever gone to any of these, or
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maybe like a Daryl Cooper, but I've seen Dave Smith,
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you know, talk about Teal and stuff and the way
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he characterizes him, and it's like, motherfucker sounds like he
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went to a lunch, or at the very least you
612
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feel weird about saying anything bad about him. But there
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are certain people that say at the very least you
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should be able to intellectualize. Like, if you're a libertarian...
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It's so-called anarchist, and you're here fucking playing, in any way,
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playing the tiniest bit nice with a fucking defense contract.
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who's like literally creating the technocratic uh dystopia in like
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before our very eyes and you're like well you know
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i mean like you did some good things for ron
620
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paul you're like okay well go suck a dick now
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i could maybe forgive that a little bit with somebody
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like rogan so like i think maybe there is something
623
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to that there was pretty good little clip in there
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with Weinstein where he even, you know, on Rogan was
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talking about, Oh, it only takes a couple of lunches,
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you know, right. Like humanizes my buddy Pete now, you.
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Know, for sure. For sure. I just, the issue is,
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and again, don't get me wrong.
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Like this isn't a blatant overt defense, me coming, rushing
630
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to the defense of Rogan and his, his inner circle.
631
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I clearly do have my own questions. As I mentioned before.
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About to what level, you know, you have Peter Thiel
633
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and his acolytes compromising influencers in this, in this environment
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and within this landscape. But for me personally, I'm talking
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about within the chronological order of the presentation, you know,
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what I could appreciate and value. And then what I
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went and verified and confirmed on my own as well,
638
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because yes, there's truth to the Peter Thiel connections to
639
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so many of these, you know, very influential and, and even,
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you know, Epstein connections to the comedy industry in general,
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which is very worthwhile and understanding and addressing as well.
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But I do think that what's interesting is that, that,
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At the beginning, toward the beginning of the presentation, as
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I mentioned, around 15 minutes in, he makes a side
645
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remark about Tony's initials. And then basically he goes off
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on how Tony was given Netflix specials because he's the
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regime's favorite comedian. And Netflix thought it would help them
648
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ease the political pressure while simultaneously aiding the facilitation of
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a potential business transaction that never even came to fruition.
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What does that mean?
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Yeah yes that one sloppy okay so you're sloppy as
652
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fuck like what are we i mean like i don't
653
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even really understand i mean i guess there's definitely things
654
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that could have been cut so like that would have
655
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been something that like why are we even going down
656
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this tangent that's another one that's like it completely weakens
657
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his argument it's like it's i don't know yet it's just.
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And after duncan trussell's little you know attempted rebrand of
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hunter biden and that strange uh.
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You know the Hunter Biden experience is, is fucking fascinating.
661
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Right.
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And so we're seeing how.
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Although it's kind of, it is fascinating, but it is
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also like, you don't, you, you're, I guess I don't
665
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want to get sidetracked, but it is, it's fascinating. And
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this fence that was like, it felt like, Ooh, where's
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this Hunter Biden thing going? And then he just dropped
668
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his meme coin, which I would assume has got to
669
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be the end of this. Cause it's like, how the
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fuck do you somehow PR wise, then drop a meme
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coin at the peak of like your up and coming meme,
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and not just completely eviscerate any sort of PR going forward. Luckily,
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Rogan did avoid that. He didn't end up booking him,
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because there was all sorts of murmur about going to
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all the big shows and stuff. All these people that
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he went on, now it blew up in their face,
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and now he's slinging a meme coin. You rehabilitate his
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PR so you can grift some money off the people.
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I did think it was like.
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It was, again, very personal to the portion of this
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presentation that in regard to Duncan and Joe Rogan's personal relationship,
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like as far as it's just strange.
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Like, what are you even saying, man? Like, as far
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as did you ever watch it?
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And he replays that so many times of the same
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clip of Duncan, like sad that Joe didn't watch. He
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didn't even watch a special or he didn't even watch
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the Midnight Gospel. And it's like taken out of context
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in the first place as far as those clips that
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are then replayed over and over. This is what I
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mean by cheap tricks involved in the video's format. Its
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own version of disingenuous counter-programming is how I felt. And
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so there was like, the most valid criticism that I saw,
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at least, there were two moments where I very much
695
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appreciated the connections that were being, at the very least, not,
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I don't think, properly presented. but, but still there were
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connections that were very valuable. And, and I think, um,
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you know, relevant, extraordinarily relevant, especially to the personalities involved
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and Peter Thiel's influence. But, um, I would say the
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most valid criticism, at least in this order of the
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presentation is that the guy had to offer was, was
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Rogan confessing to attending Peter Thiel's dinner parties and specifically
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the power dinners and power lunches. If you remember that
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he says to, uh, uh, that clip with, with, uh,
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was it, uh, Schultz?
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I think it was.
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And, and he basically says, uh, you know, he talks
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about how Peter Thiel has these power lunches and, and
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power dinners and they're really cool, you know? And then
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he replays that clip a million times as well.
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And there's, there's, uh, now.
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We discussed the dialogue, dialogue, secret society, you know, society that,
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that Peter Thiel is very much a part of that
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is just this fraternal organization that meets privately to engage
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in off the record discussions.
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About World War III sex and cult building, obviously.
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But the point being is that to me, that was
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probably the most valuable moment other than some of the
719
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:52.219
Epstein connections that he attempted to make as well. Now,
720
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:56.679
the Eric Weinstein portion was hilarious because as we talked
721
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about privately, like Eric Weinstein, there's a clip of him saying,
722
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.420
my boss and good friend, Peter Thiel, I love this guy,
723
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:06.199
Peter Thiel, and how much he loves me. And then
724
00:35:06.619 --> 00:35:08.739
it's like the way he even says it is absurd.
725
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.489
And then he says and people say, oh, you're just
726
00:35:12.590 --> 00:35:15.510
a Peter Thiel tool. And I just thought, you know,
727
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these people do, unfortunately, or I mean, not unfortunately, but
728
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these people do inevitably hang themselves.
729
00:35:21.449 --> 00:35:21.670
Right.
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And they in a real sense by their own words.
731
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And so that that part I appreciate it because Eric Weinstein,
732
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I think, is is literally the person who. is responsible
733
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for inviting and influencing Rogan to attend the dinner parties
734
00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:37.280
at Peter Thiel's in the first place, the, at least the,
735
00:35:37.619 --> 00:35:41.070
the two that he is acknowledged attending. And, and so
736
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now the Epstein connections to comedy, right. And I wanted
737
00:35:45.329 --> 00:35:48.130
to play this part though, the, the, the Tim Dillon
738
00:35:48.170 --> 00:35:51.889
part with, with the it's very, it's a very brief video.
739
00:35:51.909 --> 00:35:54.889
This is just, you know, reinforcement that yes, he admitted
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that he had gone to these two dinner parties and
741
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you know, it's just, I guess important for people to
742
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be aware of this.
743
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I'm sure everyone's already seen this. Of course.
744
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I've been to Peter's house twice.
745
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:06.539
Yeah.
746
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.699
Uh, I went once with dinner with Eric Weinstein.
747
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I forget who else.
748
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And then the second time he brought me in because
749
00:36:13.460 --> 00:36:15.659
they were going to have lunch with Eric Von Daniken.
750
00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:17.780
Oh, the, the guy, the chariots of the gods.
751
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Yes.
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Yeah.
753
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And I was like, Oh yeah, I'm in.
754
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And, uh, I know so much about that.
755
00:36:23.349 --> 00:36:25.289
So I was asking him all these questions. I'm sure
756
00:36:25.309 --> 00:36:29.199
he's a very nice guy. I like people that know him.
757
00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:35.139
Mark guy. Yeah. I don't. That's it on that specific video.
758
00:36:35.179 --> 00:36:38.139
But by the way, Tim Dillon himself has talked about
759
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how he was invited to these and, and he ended
760
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.719
up not going anymore because he was saying like, I
761
00:36:44.739 --> 00:36:46.780
think he may have implied he like sort of maybe
762
00:36:46.820 --> 00:36:49.059
went to one thing or he didn't end up going and,
763
00:36:49.590 --> 00:36:51.280
I want to say he went to some minor thing
764
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.059
he said or something. I forget the specific lore. And
765
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:55.639
he said the thing that really shook him off was
766
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.460
when they're like, he's like, and obviously in like a
767
00:36:57.500 --> 00:37:00.619
joking way is like when like the titles of lunches
768
00:37:00.699 --> 00:37:04.179
are like, I don't know, political culture or you're like,
769
00:37:04.219 --> 00:37:06.489
why the fuck is our, my, does my lunch have a,
770
00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:09.860
have a, have a themed title? And like, he even
771
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:11.659
is like, was skeeved out by it. And Tim Dillon
772
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.940
himself is kind of like known for like admittedly kind
773
00:37:14.980 --> 00:37:18.269
of being, you know, morally flexible and joking. Like, didn't
774
00:37:18.289 --> 00:37:20.070
he go to saudi arabia no he or did he
775
00:37:20.110 --> 00:37:21.510
get kicked out of saudi i think he was supposed
776
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to go to saudi arabia i forget the lore because
777
00:37:24.110 --> 00:37:27.389
i think either tim was tim wasn't like morally against
778
00:37:27.409 --> 00:37:29.610
the whole saudi arabia thing because this became a commentary
779
00:37:29.659 --> 00:37:32.280
thing and if you remember the whole saudi arabia comedy
780
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.099
festival thing a while ago a lot of comedians got
781
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:36.039
you know tied up in and like oh how dare
782
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.059
you take that blood money uh oh yeah he got
783
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.699
kicked out is what wacky and jackie's saying in the
784
00:37:40.739 --> 00:37:42.880
chat which is my recollection i think he was supposed
785
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.599
to But he couldn't not talk shit about the regime,
786
00:37:45.659 --> 00:37:47.739
so they essentially kicked him out. But he totally was
787
00:37:47.780 --> 00:37:49.619
fine with taking the money, he just couldn't keep his
788
00:37:49.659 --> 00:37:51.920
mouth shut. So this is the kind of guy that
789
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.820
we're talking about with him, and even he was like,
790
00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:58.639
what the fuck? And he's kind of been calling out
791
00:37:58.739 --> 00:38:01.280
all of these people, like J.D. Vance, who he's admittedly
792
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:03.579
gone to lunches with in the past. And is now
793
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.199
completely shitting on him openly. So, I mean, there are
794
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.500
people who are parallels to Joe who could, who are
795
00:38:09.539 --> 00:38:11.440
kind of doing what he should be doing right now.
796
00:38:11.460 --> 00:38:11.880
So, yeah.
797
00:38:12.460 --> 00:38:15.099
I forgot where I was going with that. At some
798
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:16.590
point I wanted to be in there too, but I forgot.
799
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I just, I see how, for example, it was like
800
00:38:23.369 --> 00:38:27.469
Lawrence Krauss, I believe is the individual who was in
801
00:38:27.489 --> 00:38:31.380
the correspondence in the Files article. that basically has this
802
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.860
strange mention of, of Rogan because he had just gone
803
00:38:36.059 --> 00:38:40.239
on Joe Rogan's podcast. And so there was Epstein essentially
804
00:38:40.340 --> 00:38:44.090
reached out to Lawrence Krauss, the psychiatrist, I believe, or
805
00:38:44.139 --> 00:38:46.449
I'll look back into that because I have the connection
806
00:38:46.469 --> 00:38:49.949
drawn here. But the point being is that, you know,
807
00:38:50.570 --> 00:38:57.650
it's important to understand that, yes, we clearly have this, this,
808
00:38:58.590 --> 00:39:02.090
culture creation mechanism in play here as far as the
809
00:39:02.130 --> 00:39:06.179
influencer industrial complex and the landscape in general and these
810
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.239
prominent personalities potentially being compromised as assets to at the
811
00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:16.239
very least provide a platform of just extraordinary size for
812
00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:19.269
any kind of like damage control narratives that need to
813
00:39:19.329 --> 00:39:25.110
be conducted or even just a PR for specific rebranded personalities,
814
00:39:25.150 --> 00:39:27.960
things of that nature. You guys already know how willing
815
00:39:28.059 --> 00:39:31.179
I am to objectively consider that as a possibility, if
816
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:35.139
not the reality. But I think what bothered me most
817
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.760
was the schizo slop in the way in which it's
818
00:39:38.820 --> 00:39:42.239
being presented that isn't up to standard for me.
819
00:39:42.460 --> 00:39:43.980
Like that's the problem for me.
820
00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:46.760
Because again, it's like, if you are condemning a person's
821
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.329
character in this way, You need to be certain.
822
00:39:51.309 --> 00:39:51.849
And that's all.
823
00:39:52.210 --> 00:39:54.710
Look, and maybe he is, and that's why he comes
824
00:39:54.809 --> 00:39:57.090
off this way to me. Because once again, it's like,
825
00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:00.849
be very careful of what you think you're certain of
826
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in the first place.
827
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That's another thing that I urge everyone.
828
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I will say, I mean, I've watched it like twice now,
829
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.280
and I didn't get the impression... I mean, he was
830
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.050
definitely kind of being, I guess, maybe arrogant, but... I
831
00:40:13.090 --> 00:40:15.530
didn't get the impression that he was like necessarily stating
832
00:40:15.710 --> 00:40:19.590
some of these things with like certainty beyond or whatever.
833
00:40:19.989 --> 00:40:22.070
But I did get the impression, as I said, of like,
834
00:40:22.110 --> 00:40:24.110
why are we even going here? Like, what is this?
835
00:40:24.449 --> 00:40:26.949
This just seems like not even worth mentioning, especially in
836
00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:29.210
a long enough video as it was. Some of the
837
00:40:29.250 --> 00:40:32.030
things that you just mentioned, which are more sloppy. I mean,
838
00:40:32.070 --> 00:40:34.380
maybe the idea was to, you know, have some fun
839
00:40:34.420 --> 00:40:37.070
with more fun with it. But a lot of those weren't. Now,
840
00:40:37.090 --> 00:40:40.489
the Trussell thing, I will say, he did hit... Now,
841
00:40:40.510 --> 00:40:43.369
I get what you're talking about with some of the
842
00:40:43.389 --> 00:40:45.570
edited stuff. I think it was probably just more for
843
00:40:45.630 --> 00:40:47.329
fun and to kind of make you feel bad. Because
844
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.219
I think the thing with Duncan is, from my perspective,
845
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.320
I don't follow the ins and outs down to the
846
00:40:52.340 --> 00:40:54.980
minutiae of Duncan, but he... I mean, it's been frequently
847
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.030
shared around the clip of him. And this is kind of,
848
00:40:57.059 --> 00:40:59.280
if you know Duncan and a little bit about him,
849
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.679
that's kind of been his character stick for a while.
850
00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:03.949
It's kind of like, he's the one who warned Duncan,
851
00:41:04.010 --> 00:41:06.699
or warned Joe, like, hey, they're going to fucking... you know,
852
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:08.099
these people are going to reach out and try to
853
00:41:08.139 --> 00:41:10.900
tap you. These like billionaire, whatever, like a hippie guy
854
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.570
essentially called it. And here it is happening in real time.
855
00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:16.530
And he's already, I guess like now he's been, uh,
856
00:41:16.570 --> 00:41:18.510
I saw some clip where he's talking about, he's going
857
00:41:18.530 --> 00:41:21.449
to these launches now to Duncan Russell and Peter Thiel
858
00:41:21.469 --> 00:41:23.969
is just like, Oh, whatever. No, no big deal. So
859
00:41:24.010 --> 00:41:26.789
it is, I mean, Duncan is kind of a perfect
860
00:41:26.809 --> 00:41:29.630
character study of like, what the fuck here? And in
861
00:41:29.670 --> 00:41:33.269
a really sad, in a sort of sympathetic sort of way, uh,
862
00:41:33.820 --> 00:41:35.289
And I think, and I see a lot of people
863
00:41:35.309 --> 00:41:37.369
in the chat pointing out compromise and I'm open to that,
864
00:41:37.409 --> 00:41:40.710
but I also think like, I mean, Duncan Trussell is
865
00:41:40.750 --> 00:41:42.469
getting ready to drop a, I don't know if they've
866
00:41:42.510 --> 00:41:45.360
already debuted it or not, but Duncan Trussell and with
867
00:41:45.409 --> 00:41:48.260
Kurt Metzger, which is kind of relevant here, they're getting
868
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:50.139
ready to drop a new podcast. They're getting ready to
869
00:41:50.539 --> 00:41:52.519
kind of be like the conspiracy, kind of their version
870
00:41:52.539 --> 00:41:54.920
of schizo bros, I guess you could say. And here
871
00:41:54.980 --> 00:41:57.289
they are, like it's kind of their proximity to this
872
00:41:57.329 --> 00:41:58.909
and the things they're willing to say and the things
873
00:41:58.949 --> 00:42:01.630
they have said. And it is just like, I mean,
874
00:42:01.650 --> 00:42:03.670
I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying Duncan Trussell
875
00:42:03.710 --> 00:42:06.329
needs to go out of his way to condemn Joe
876
00:42:06.389 --> 00:42:08.949
Rogan or anything like that. But then when he's here,
877
00:42:09.510 --> 00:42:12.489
like essentially like, Oh, Peter Daly is no big deal, whatever.
878
00:42:12.510 --> 00:42:14.639
And he's the one who called it. It is just
879
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:17.460
kind of a little bit of a, whatever, a little
880
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.400
sentimental part of the, you know, JRE and that crew
881
00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:23.280
you may have. It's just, just kind of a, you know,
882
00:42:23.340 --> 00:42:26.219
it's like taking Lenny out back after he, uh, you know,
883
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.639
murdered the lady and saying, look at the flowers.
884
00:42:30.860 --> 00:42:31.159
I don't know.
885
00:42:31.530 --> 00:42:34.119
And you already know, I'm, I'm very skeptical of Duncan. I,
886
00:42:34.769 --> 00:42:38.769
I very much, you know, think at, at least Duncan.
887
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:40.739
If it wasn't clear, the money is kind of what
888
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:42.780
I was getting at. These people have made tons. So
889
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.539
these people we're talking about, people are probably making well
890
00:42:44.579 --> 00:42:47.820
over six figures doing essentially what we're trying to do
891
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:52.019
and making basically nothing doing. So just point it out.
892
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:53.739
I mean, I know a lot of people speak of
893
00:42:53.780 --> 00:42:55.980
these people with Hallowed. And I'm glad for this. It's
894
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:58.219
cool that these people have brought up other people. Like
895
00:42:58.239 --> 00:42:59.530
say with Joe Rogan, a lot of people like to
896
00:42:59.570 --> 00:43:01.010
bring up all the great things he's done for comedy,
897
00:43:01.030 --> 00:43:02.849
this and that. But on the flip side, he's also
898
00:43:02.909 --> 00:43:05.449
the largest name in podcasting right now. I know I
899
00:43:05.489 --> 00:43:08.130
kind of got, like, it's like these people, they get,
900
00:43:08.369 --> 00:43:10.289
you can't like on one hand be like, use these
901
00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:12.570
things like, oh, you can't criticize him because of this.
902
00:43:12.969 --> 00:43:14.449
But it's like on the flip side, that's also why
903
00:43:14.510 --> 00:43:17.920
he's so big now. So it's like, anyways, there's something
904
00:43:17.940 --> 00:43:19.820
else I was trying to get at, but go ahead, bud.
905
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:24.780
No, I just think like, you know, I'm most skeptical
906
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.800
of Duncan Trussell. It seems like he's, he feels like
907
00:43:28.860 --> 00:43:31.340
a candidate that's far more likely to be compromised.
908
00:43:31.380 --> 00:43:32.519
Not to say that Joe's not.
909
00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:36.139
I think Joe's, it's very possible very possible that, that he's,
910
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:41.230
he's a controlled asset or at least, you know, participating in,
911
00:43:41.650 --> 00:43:45.530
in kind of facilitating the framework of, uh, you know,
912
00:43:45.710 --> 00:43:51.130
benefiting that permanent establishment by being willing, right. To voluntarily
913
00:43:51.170 --> 00:43:54.369
kind of platform these individuals and power players and prominent
914
00:43:54.409 --> 00:43:58.289
personalities that, that provides a mutual benefit, not only for
915
00:43:58.329 --> 00:44:02.690
your business model of, of this podcast and the industry, but,
916
00:44:02.809 --> 00:44:05.230
but also, uh, you know, it's, it's only going to
917
00:44:05.269 --> 00:44:06.849
benefit you in prominence as well.
918
00:44:06.949 --> 00:44:08.510
And, and, and puts you on that.
919
00:44:08.449 --> 00:44:12.190
Threshold that, that is above all others, because who else
920
00:44:12.289 --> 00:44:14.949
is able to even get the president on as a
921
00:44:14.989 --> 00:44:17.090
guest or like things of that nature. So it's clear
922
00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:22.530
and obvious that he's tied in to these, these directly
923
00:44:22.670 --> 00:44:28.219
to the individuals in, in let's say proximity to the
924
00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:29.199
levers of power, right?
925
00:44:29.300 --> 00:44:35.590
Absolutely. That's, that's a fact. And so, Again, my criticism
926
00:44:35.969 --> 00:44:38.929
is of this presentation, man. That's what it is.
927
00:44:39.030 --> 00:44:44.030
I'm not criticizing these concepts necessarily. There are certain concepts
928
00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:48.400
that I felt were misrepresented. And I thought that was
929
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.639
intentional in a sense. Or maybe this is an uneducated
930
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.619
person and they did the best they could in terms
931
00:44:55.659 --> 00:44:59.539
of putting together this presentation. So I'll get to the
932
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:03.269
Epstein connections to... you know, comedy as well. But I
933
00:45:03.550 --> 00:45:07.650
thought before I forget, you know, if you remember that
934
00:45:07.710 --> 00:45:15.659
Cheryl Hines episode where, yeah, if you remember that Cheryl
935
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.800
Hines episode, right, where he admits he was in the files, right?
936
00:45:19.260 --> 00:45:23.289
And he says that Epstein was trying to orchestrate a
937
00:45:23.309 --> 00:45:29.360
meeting with him. And just after that, there's an injection
938
00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:33.369
into the presentation that to me was absolute absurdity. Uh,
939
00:45:33.750 --> 00:45:39.210
he then acts as if Rogan's obsession with anti-aging, right. Is,
940
00:45:39.510 --> 00:45:41.690
which obviously if you've, I used to listen to, uh,
941
00:45:42.469 --> 00:45:45.800
Jerry for forever, you know, just as far as like, uh, uh,
942
00:45:45.940 --> 00:45:49.219
years ago, it was, it was clearly, you know, uh,
943
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.099
one of the podcasts that I listened to, which is
944
00:45:52.340 --> 00:45:55.050
initially how it was even introduced to Sam and, and
945
00:45:55.139 --> 00:45:57.929
Eddie and the homies, you know, which, which, which obviously, uh,
946
00:45:58.550 --> 00:46:00.289
you know, I very much value to this day. And
947
00:46:00.309 --> 00:46:03.010
the fact that, that he's even willing to have Sam
948
00:46:03.130 --> 00:46:05.610
on and platform Sam in that way. And it's, it's
949
00:46:05.650 --> 00:46:09.380
just like, clearly they're personal friends and, and you know,
950
00:46:09.420 --> 00:46:11.219
he has skin in the game in this con in
951
00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:15.559
this context. And so I take what Sam says, you know,
952
00:46:15.940 --> 00:46:18.599
to heart, like I, I truly do. Sam's my brother.
953
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:21.820
Like I love him. And I honestly do believe that
954
00:46:21.900 --> 00:46:24.659
he's a good person. And, and so, you know, all
955
00:46:24.699 --> 00:46:28.300
that I'm saying is that it's important to remind yourself,
956
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.800
you know, of what, again, this is not a rejection
957
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.679
of truth, right? Like you have to remain objective to
958
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.210
pursue the truth in the first place. And so you
959
00:46:39.269 --> 00:46:43.610
need evidence to officially declare a certainty, you know, in
960
00:46:43.650 --> 00:46:48.170
my mind. And so until I have the tangible evidence, right,
961
00:46:48.289 --> 00:46:51.090
which again, I'm confirming as much as I can, which
962
00:46:51.170 --> 00:46:55.110
clearly is that there are individuals within this landscape that
963
00:46:55.289 --> 00:46:56.809
are controlled opposition assets.
964
00:46:56.949 --> 00:46:59.070
No doubt in my mind, it's a fact of life.
965
00:46:59.909 --> 00:47:04.409
But the problem is condemning a person's character without being
966
00:47:04.489 --> 00:47:07.659
certain of that fact. Honestly, it's like, why do you
967
00:47:07.699 --> 00:47:10.980
have to take it that far? It's not necessary, you know,
968
00:47:11.019 --> 00:47:15.639
and it will only inevitably undermine any of the.
969
00:47:15.659 --> 00:47:20.480
Ultimate kind of value of the message in itself, right?
970
00:47:20.539 --> 00:47:25.489
I think it will honestly miss the target For very
971
00:47:25.530 --> 00:47:27.449
many people, which why would you even want to do
972
00:47:27.489 --> 00:47:29.289
that in the first place, right? You're trying to wake
973
00:47:29.329 --> 00:47:31.409
people up to the truth, aren't you? Isn't that the goal?
974
00:47:31.869 --> 00:47:34.710
Aren't you supposed to have good intentions? I think it
975
00:47:34.769 --> 00:47:37.650
requires good intentions to have that as a goal in
976
00:47:37.670 --> 00:47:38.269
the first place.
977
00:47:39.170 --> 00:47:40.170
So I have to say that.
978
00:47:40.730 --> 00:47:43.329
And I will say the absolute absurdity as far as
979
00:47:43.409 --> 00:47:48.409
the transition from, you know, that clip of Rogan telling
980
00:47:48.449 --> 00:47:50.650
Cheryl Hines he was in the files because Epstein was
981
00:47:50.670 --> 00:47:52.329
trying to orchestrate a meeting with him, which I went
982
00:47:52.349 --> 00:47:52.969
and confirmed all.
983
00:47:53.250 --> 00:47:55.110
I'll discuss the details of that in a moment because
984
00:47:55.150 --> 00:47:57.429
it is interesting, is.
985
00:47:57.369 --> 00:48:02.940
That basically he presents this clip and this segment about
986
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.500
the anti-aging aspect of just Joe basically trying to, you know,
987
00:48:07.579 --> 00:48:09.860
be at physical peak form, you know, as far as like,
988
00:48:10.179 --> 00:48:12.400
if you haven't, the only reason I mentioned I used
989
00:48:12.420 --> 00:48:14.630
to listen to his show is because it clearly is
990
00:48:14.670 --> 00:48:17.489
an obsession as far as like, you know, it's personal
991
00:48:17.530 --> 00:48:18.849
physical health and wellbeing.
992
00:48:18.869 --> 00:48:21.449
He was super into like, I've, I remember I used
993
00:48:21.469 --> 00:48:23.050
to be, I watched plenty of Jerry back in the
994
00:48:23.070 --> 00:48:25.030
day and he was so many like, you know, debates
995
00:48:25.090 --> 00:48:29.030
about like high fat or, or, or, or high carb
996
00:48:29.050 --> 00:48:32.639
diets and, you know, just shit like that. Yeah. So yeah,
997
00:48:32.699 --> 00:48:33.360
I learned a lot of.
998
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:37.980
Valuable things, honestly, as far as just, just on your own, uh,
999
00:48:38.059 --> 00:48:43.179
personal wellbeing in terms of, of just your overall physical condition. And, and, uh,
1000
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.980
you know, I mean, there, there are, you know, people
1001
00:48:47.019 --> 00:48:49.880
are very extraordinarily lazy.
1002
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:51.199
It's just a reality, right?
1003
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:54.340
And so, you know, I understand why you have like
1004
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:56.980
an inherent rejection to the alpha male mentality as well
1005
00:48:57.019 --> 00:49:00.199
in a certain sense. And that's obviously the manosphere, right?
1006
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.340
Has been attached to criticizing and condemning Rogan and his
1007
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:06.250
inner circle as well in that sense, which I do
1008
00:49:06.309 --> 00:49:09.030
think is disingenuous in that way. But I do think
1009
00:49:09.090 --> 00:49:13.230
that the way in which this was presented is in
1010
00:49:13.289 --> 00:49:17.820
terms of the sloppy tie-in to Rogan and Thiel's relationship
1011
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.539
hinging on Peter Thiel being his adrenochrome supplier. And all
1012
00:49:23.619 --> 00:49:27.519
it did was show a small splice of Rogan as
1013
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.280
a young person or younger. opening up like a cabinet but.
1014
00:49:31.070 --> 00:49:33.650
Did anything really hinge on that or is that a
1015
00:49:33.849 --> 00:49:36.269
fun aside like i took that as a fun aside
1016
00:49:36.309 --> 00:49:38.170
and nothing was hinging on it and he was like
1017
00:49:38.329 --> 00:49:40.650
isn't that funny because i think a lot of people
1018
00:49:40.949 --> 00:49:43.340
were rehashing this stuff i didn't even realize that like
1019
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.539
that was something when he brought up he was kind
1020
00:49:45.579 --> 00:49:46.980
of like an interesting way like oh yeah there's some
1021
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.579
good effects so it was like and looking back now
1022
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.869
in this context i can totally be like oh shit
1023
00:49:52.010 --> 00:49:54.019
like Because at that point, nobody.
1024
00:49:53.820 --> 00:49:55.929
Was really in the context of like three seconds, and
1025
00:49:55.949 --> 00:49:57.989
you can play it over and over again while telling
1026
00:49:58.030 --> 00:49:59.849
somebody this is what it means, and it will have
1027
00:49:59.869 --> 00:50:03.309
an effect and influence their subconscious, not subconscious, their minds
1028
00:50:03.329 --> 00:50:03.530
in general.
1029
00:50:03.550 --> 00:50:05.820
Yeah, but what I'm saying is you're saying it means this,
1030
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.300
and he never said it means that. You're saying it hinged.
1031
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:09.380
He did say it in the presentation.
1032
00:50:09.420 --> 00:50:10.760
Okay, what did he say, though?
1033
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.820
He literally said that Joe Rogan and Peter Thiel's relationship
1034
00:50:15.550 --> 00:50:18.039
Is based on adrenochrome supply.
1035
00:50:18.099 --> 00:50:19.659
Is that the exact quote, though? I mean, I'm not
1036
00:50:19.699 --> 00:50:21.739
trying to be. I mean, if that is OK, if
1037
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.480
you wrote it down, if that's the exact quote, then OK.
1038
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:26.639
But I did not interpret it that way. That was
1039
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:29.239
not the spirit I took. If that is the exact quote. Yeah,
1040
00:50:29.260 --> 00:50:31.159
that's crazy. That is insane.
1041
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:32.860
So it was a little slop, dude.
1042
00:50:33.059 --> 00:50:35.789
You know, and like, again, this doesn't mean there wasn't
1043
00:50:35.889 --> 00:50:39.429
anything valuable as far as certain implications and connections to,
1044
00:50:39.929 --> 00:50:40.130
you know.
1045
00:50:40.889 --> 00:50:42.739
Some of the Epstein connections, let's say.
1046
00:50:42.780 --> 00:50:44.940
And I know, I just, I remember I didn't, I
1047
00:50:44.980 --> 00:50:47.039
didn't write down the quote, but my impression of that
1048
00:50:47.099 --> 00:50:49.639
bit was just like, isn't that weird? And also we're
1049
00:50:49.659 --> 00:50:52.659
looking back at old clips and I remember, I remember
1050
00:50:52.699 --> 00:50:55.320
that old clip and I actually remembered him talking about that.
1051
00:50:55.340 --> 00:50:57.449
And that's how we knew like some of the early
1052
00:50:57.489 --> 00:50:59.650
mumblings as it came up on the JRE, but that
1053
00:50:59.670 --> 00:51:03.570
was before Joe was as open and, you know, close
1054
00:51:03.610 --> 00:51:05.650
to Teal. So a lot of people didn't put that
1055
00:51:05.690 --> 00:51:08.340
together in the schizo, um, realm like we did so
1056
00:51:08.380 --> 00:51:09.739
I did think it was actually kind of interesting in
1057
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.190
the realm now if he overstated yeah totally that's ridiculous
1058
00:51:12.610 --> 00:51:14.349
I didn't get that impression but I guess I wasn't
1059
00:51:14.670 --> 00:51:17.969
you know really looking for specific words or specific claims
1060
00:51:18.090 --> 00:51:20.309
I didn't get the impression it came to I didn't
1061
00:51:20.329 --> 00:51:22.369
feel like anything was hinged on that it just came
1062
00:51:22.449 --> 00:51:24.840
off to me as some sort of silly little aside
1063
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:26.659
and like in that we're looking at it with these
1064
00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:29.860
eyes now but yeah to say that means they're literally
1065
00:51:29.900 --> 00:51:31.840
doing adrenochrome together and this is their connection or.
1066
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.139
Something I mean that's literally what he said so I
1067
00:51:36.179 --> 00:51:41.070
just like Look, man, I just think that if you're
1068
00:51:41.110 --> 00:51:44.320
going to, I take offense to presenting information in a
1069
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:48.320
disingenuous way because it only undermines the credibility of those concepts.
1070
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:50.000
And so this is why I take it personally.
1071
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:53.030
It's not because of any of these personalities involved being
1072
00:51:53.530 --> 00:51:59.650
characterized in this kind of, or mischaracterized in a certain sense, potentially, right?
1073
00:51:59.710 --> 00:52:02.550
I'm not saying that that is the case at every
1074
00:52:02.590 --> 00:52:05.860
level of the presentation, but I did think that it
1075
00:52:06.250 --> 00:52:08.769
you know, the whole concept of attacking the walled garden
1076
00:52:08.809 --> 00:52:12.960
and things like that. Like, so basically how I felt
1077
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:18.320
was not only, you know, in my, in my concerned
1078
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.059
with the strange connections to Peter Thiel in regard to
1079
00:52:21.099 --> 00:52:24.920
this specific, you know, group, as far as Rogan's inner
1080
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:29.809
circle and, and, you know, obviously Rogan having this glaring
1081
00:52:29.849 --> 00:52:32.670
blind spot regarding any and all of Peter Thiel's acolytes,
1082
00:52:32.750 --> 00:52:36.530
including the, level of controlled opposition assets within the arranged
1083
00:52:36.570 --> 00:52:41.889
landscape that is the influencer industrial complex. But in my opinion,
1084
00:52:42.429 --> 00:52:47.650
this was a very much, it's seemed like an attempted teardown.
1085
00:52:48.309 --> 00:52:51.409
And especially when, when he gets into this portion of
1086
00:52:51.909 --> 00:52:54.190
attacking the walled garden and he plays it over and
1087
00:52:54.250 --> 00:52:57.159
over again, and he says, but as we all know,
1088
00:52:57.300 --> 00:52:59.510
this is what he says. He's speaking for me now, right?
1089
00:52:59.550 --> 00:53:01.480
The audience member is sitting there listening to him.
1090
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:03.579
It's very upsetting.
1091
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.780
As we all know, this guy doesn't fucking know anything
1092
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:12.460
about anything or anybody. This is a quote verbatim. So
1093
00:53:12.500 --> 00:53:14.599
to try to make sense of the world, he just
1094
00:53:14.659 --> 00:53:20.199
constantly projects his own internal psychology onto everyone else, which
1095
00:53:20.260 --> 00:53:23.900
is nuts. But it's good for us because it gives
1096
00:53:23.980 --> 00:53:26.719
us insight into what the hell is going on with
1097
00:53:26.739 --> 00:53:31.349
this guy. So it's good for us. You couldn't have
1098
00:53:31.389 --> 00:53:34.269
made that more overtly clear as far as your primary
1099
00:53:34.329 --> 00:53:37.469
motivation and intention as far as I'm concerned. This is
1100
00:53:37.570 --> 00:53:42.880
a self-perpetuating narrative. Look, this is how I feel personally.
1101
00:53:43.579 --> 00:53:48.840
This guy ultimately, in a real sense, for me, it
1102
00:53:48.860 --> 00:53:51.599
felt like an attempted teardown of a successful person for
1103
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:53.719
the sake of becoming successful yourself.
1104
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.320
That's what I saw in this video.
1105
00:53:56.139 --> 00:53:59.559
This guy ultimately punishes Joe for having the personal drive
1106
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:03.059
and motivation to climb the proverbial ladder of success. Or
1107
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:07.000
in this guy's words specifically, he says climbing the ladder
1108
00:54:07.019 --> 00:54:09.699
of social hierarchy. And again, you can tell he's a
1109
00:54:09.739 --> 00:54:13.510
leftist because he has like this negative implication, you know,
1110
00:54:13.550 --> 00:54:16.409
of climbing the social ladder as if it's, you know,
1111
00:54:16.610 --> 00:54:20.010
having this personal drive and motivation to improve as if
1112
00:54:20.050 --> 00:54:22.769
it's a negative quality to never be satisfied and always
1113
00:54:22.809 --> 00:54:25.980
want more out of life. That's the mindset of a
1114
00:54:26.059 --> 00:54:29.780
loser and a complete and total failure. And then at
1115
00:54:29.820 --> 00:54:31.599
the end of it all, he concludes with calling for
1116
00:54:31.619 --> 00:54:34.719
a comedy Nuremberg, right? As if, you know, there's no
1117
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:39.880
comedic minds in the comedy industry worthwhile at any level whatsoever. Now,
1118
00:54:40.300 --> 00:54:43.489
Duncan Trussell talks about, well, and I have to mention,
1119
00:54:44.489 --> 00:54:47.090
just as far as Duncan Trussell talking to Hunter Biden,
1120
00:54:47.130 --> 00:54:50.550
and I have a portion of that interview, because obviously
1121
00:54:50.570 --> 00:54:52.889
Hunter at one point said.
1122
00:54:53.309 --> 00:54:56.219
I do want to... We do have a caller, I'm assuming,
1123
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:01.309
right here. I don't want to let them go too long. Dang,
1124
00:55:01.329 --> 00:55:03.030
there's something there I did want to address before you
1125
00:55:03.429 --> 00:55:05.110
let it go. I gotta be real with you, just
1126
00:55:05.130 --> 00:55:07.050
to be on the record and be honest, it sounds
1127
00:55:07.090 --> 00:55:10.150
like you're interpreting this, his intentions through this. And I
1128
00:55:10.170 --> 00:55:12.679
get it, you can somewhat get people's intentions, and he
1129
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:16.389
is obviously dramatizing this, but Like some of the characterization
1130
00:55:16.429 --> 00:55:18.389
you just gave there, I don't, I mean, maybe we
1131
00:55:18.409 --> 00:55:20.449
could go through quotes and this and that and we
1132
00:55:20.469 --> 00:55:22.760
could go, but like that was not what I got
1133
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:25.440
from it. I think that's imparting a lot of something
1134
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:27.619
other like this idea. I do think there is something
1135
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.679
to be said about this like social hierarchy, especially in
1136
00:55:30.739 --> 00:55:34.280
regards to the power dynamic and the parasocial, you know,
1137
00:55:34.340 --> 00:55:37.909
what's occurring here. You mentioned Sam earlier. I love Sam.
1138
00:55:37.949 --> 00:55:39.750
Sam's great. But like, and you're kind of talking about
1139
00:55:39.769 --> 00:55:41.429
how he characterized Joe or whatever. And I don't really
1140
00:55:41.449 --> 00:55:43.809
know exactly even the specific stuff Sam talks about Joe,
1141
00:55:43.829 --> 00:55:46.429
but And, like, in the same breath, if this was
1142
00:55:46.469 --> 00:55:48.710
Sam and you were talking about it, I mean, I
1143
00:55:49.010 --> 00:55:50.710
gotta be real. Like, I mean, I guess it's a
1144
00:55:50.730 --> 00:55:52.710
little bit different situation between, you know, you don't get
1145
00:55:52.730 --> 00:55:55.250
as much of a boost from Sam as Sam does
1146
00:55:55.269 --> 00:55:58.150
get from Joe. Although, I'm sure there's some level of... But, like,
1147
00:55:58.670 --> 00:56:01.070
I would realize that, like, this is obviously, this guy
1148
00:56:01.110 --> 00:56:02.869
has a benefit in this relationship. And I'm not saying
1149
00:56:02.889 --> 00:56:05.710
that in any way there's anything disgenerous there. They're boys, too.
1150
00:56:06.190 --> 00:56:07.829
I just, like, the kind of one of the things,
1151
00:56:07.889 --> 00:56:10.030
and I totally get this idea of loyalty. And, like,
1152
00:56:10.070 --> 00:56:12.559
maybe some people have accused me of not. But my,
1153
00:56:12.619 --> 00:56:14.420
I guess my tact when it comes to this sort
1154
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.469
of whatever limited bit of tribalism I'm willing to commit
1155
00:56:18.510 --> 00:56:20.989
to is like, there is some level of deference of
1156
00:56:21.090 --> 00:56:23.670
I may not get into the fray of something, but
1157
00:56:23.849 --> 00:56:26.150
you are no one, there is no one out there,
1158
00:56:26.170 --> 00:56:28.849
aside from maybe some sort of physical protecting someone or
1159
00:56:28.889 --> 00:56:32.800
that I'm going to reflexively come to their side in
1160
00:56:32.900 --> 00:56:36.300
some sort of, you know, thing without, you know, without
1161
00:56:36.340 --> 00:56:37.880
like the specific, like I have to know that like
1162
00:56:37.940 --> 00:56:41.139
whatever this given thing is I'm correct on. So I just,
1163
00:56:41.219 --> 00:56:43.090
I think there's some sort of parasocial thing going here,
1164
00:56:43.110 --> 00:56:46.630
this blending of friends and like, and you know, and
1165
00:56:46.750 --> 00:56:48.650
so I think there is genuine things to be pointed
1166
00:56:48.730 --> 00:56:52.110
out here of like the climbing and the, some of
1167
00:56:52.150 --> 00:56:54.869
the negative stuff that's occurred here and some of the
1168
00:56:54.909 --> 00:56:58.690
parasocial disgustingness of it all. So I totally get it,
1169
00:56:58.710 --> 00:57:01.130
but we do, I mean, Austin, I'm not trying to,
1170
00:57:01.150 --> 00:57:02.489
I know we're going to say I'm trying to handle you,
1171
00:57:02.530 --> 00:57:03.809
but we do have a call here. I'm trying to be,
1172
00:57:04.070 --> 00:57:06.530
I'm trying to finish my thoughts on this because it's
1173
00:57:06.610 --> 00:57:09.670
necessary because I think I'm being misunderstood as well just
1174
00:57:09.730 --> 00:57:14.780
because Look, I don't know. Just in terms of this
1175
00:57:15.219 --> 00:57:20.619
individual's presentation, yeah, it definitely, you know, to me, it
1176
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:21.420
was offensive.
1177
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:22.440
Like, absolutely.
1178
00:57:22.500 --> 00:57:25.840
As far as intellectually speaking, I felt as if, you know,
1179
00:57:25.940 --> 00:57:28.739
anytime I'm treated with kid gloves as a member of
1180
00:57:28.780 --> 00:57:31.820
an audience, in a certain sense, as far as you're
1181
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.619
walking me along by the nose and telling me the
1182
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:39.360
reality of things, it's a sticking point for me. And
1183
00:57:39.420 --> 00:57:43.579
so I'll go ahead and mention just after we have
1184
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:47.230
the caller and we go on intermission, because I did form,
1185
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you know, I have the Bilderberg clip outside, you know,
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Peter Thiel outside of Bilderberg in 2016. I have essentially
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00:57:54.829 --> 00:57:58.360
this direct connections to Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, to all
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00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:02.039
these comedians, which is very interesting. And I think especially understanding,
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you know, what they were attempting to utilize the comedians for,
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as far as like a, an imagery brand on behalf
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00:58:10.219 --> 00:58:12.400
of Jeffrey Epstein and things of that nature. But I also,
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I just want to point out the concept of, of
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00:58:15.500 --> 00:58:18.250
how this could be weaponized as well. Just, just, I'm
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00:58:18.269 --> 00:58:20.949
talking about guilt by association in terms of Peter Thiel.
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00:58:20.989 --> 00:58:23.809
I think it's important to consider that I'm never saying
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00:58:24.429 --> 00:58:26.829
that I have all the answers, take what I'm saying
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00:58:27.130 --> 00:58:29.659
at face value and don't go and confirm anything that,
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00:58:29.820 --> 00:58:34.159
and again, like I'm, I'm not, making any certain statements whatsoever,
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you know, in terms of like, this individual is 100% compromised,
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00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.349
controlled opposition asset, and I can prove it. Look, man,
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00:58:42.369 --> 00:58:44.010
you better be able to prove it if you're saying
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00:58:44.050 --> 00:58:45.829
it out loud like that. It's the only point that
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00:58:45.849 --> 00:58:50.170
I'm making. And, you know, or be honest about that fact,
1204
00:58:50.389 --> 00:58:54.050
is that no, there's a point where I can't necessarily,
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00:58:54.530 --> 00:58:59.199
you know, speak in certain terms about that direct connection
1206
00:58:59.219 --> 00:59:04.349
with You know, diabolically being just as far as like, look, man, anyway,
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go ahead.
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And because I did, I just.
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Want to make sure that I complete the well-rounded ideas.
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as far as what I was personally internalizing in terms
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of this specific presentation. Because it's, I think, I take
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00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:24.030
it personal whenever people are presenting very important concepts in
1213
00:59:24.070 --> 00:59:27.670
a way in which they can be just entirely dismissed
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00:59:27.809 --> 00:59:29.610
because of the presentation in itself.
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And that's what happened with me.
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00:59:31.420 --> 00:59:34.449
So I understand you had an entirely different, you know,
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00:59:34.510 --> 00:59:37.809
as far as interpretation of the presentation. But for me,
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00:59:38.429 --> 00:59:45.059
they took very important, you know, valuable information. And then
1219
00:59:45.179 --> 00:59:48.380
they presented it in a way in which only undermines
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the value. And so for me personally, yeah, that's like.
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00:59:54.849 --> 00:59:58.690
That's like presenting, you know, you know, some of the
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00:59:58.730 --> 01:00:02.570
more core evidentiary based details in regard to some of
1223
01:00:02.590 --> 01:00:06.329
these criminal cases that deserve the due diligence necessary to
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01:00:06.409 --> 01:00:10.349
make those claims in the first place. Like you have
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01:00:10.449 --> 01:00:14.949
to understand, you know, that that there are consequences to this.
1226
01:00:15.110 --> 01:00:16.860
You know what I mean? It's like that's all I'm
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01:00:16.900 --> 01:00:17.280
saying is.
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And for people who are in this environment and landscape
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01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:25.050
of content creation, I think they just get. get lost
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01:00:25.530 --> 01:00:28.690
in in the process and and they keep cycling through
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01:00:28.769 --> 01:00:31.869
and becoming worse and worse versions of themselves because it's
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01:00:31.969 --> 01:00:35.170
reinforced by their own audience and and these terrible ideas
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01:00:35.230 --> 01:00:38.019
that are be that are being uh kind of internalized
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01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:42.320
by uh you know the proverbial masses who are very
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01:00:42.420 --> 01:00:47.199
much they're they're more directly connected into and attached to
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01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:50.590
i think the conflict conflict for clicks man so if
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01:00:50.619 --> 01:00:53.570
you can if you can have this kind of uh
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01:00:53.849 --> 01:00:59.510
you know let's say, not just this overwhelming sense of
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01:00:59.570 --> 01:01:03.050
conflict that you're kind of injecting into your presentation and
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01:01:03.429 --> 01:01:05.849
specifically your content.
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01:01:07.909 --> 01:01:09.389
Yeah, anyway, go ahead, dude.
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Sorry.
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01:01:10.210 --> 01:01:11.570
No, you're good. The caller dropped.
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01:01:12.289 --> 01:01:14.639
Okay, well, that's fine because... Oh, sorry.
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01:01:14.659 --> 01:01:15.800
Never mind. I thought I saw it come back. I
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01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:16.780
just saw something jump in the back.
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01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:18.940
Well, okay.
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01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:20.239
Sorry, what were you going to say?
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01:01:20.300 --> 01:01:24.739
No, I just feel like it's, again... It's it's this
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01:01:24.780 --> 01:01:28.000
there's a responsibility here, you know, and so I'll just
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01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:31.699
say that that when it comes down to and we've
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01:01:31.739 --> 01:01:34.579
mentioned in the past, right, the idea of being approached
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01:01:34.619 --> 01:01:36.989
by Peter Thiel reps in an attempt to arrange a
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01:01:37.030 --> 01:01:41.789
high profile lunch or dinner party and how, you know,
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01:01:42.650 --> 01:01:46.010
let's say, for example, this could potentially be the thought
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01:01:46.050 --> 01:01:47.710
experiment of how this would play out.
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Right.
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01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:50.099
Here are some other.
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01:01:49.989 --> 01:01:53.119
Notable names worth mentioning that may help influence your decision
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01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:57.119
on whether or not you should attend, right? You have
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01:01:57.139 --> 01:01:59.719
to imagine that there are many different people, if not
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01:01:59.739 --> 01:02:03.039
the majority on average, who would wind up accepting said invites.
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01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:07.860
And that becomes instantly guilt by association, which will always
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01:02:07.940 --> 01:02:10.679
apply and be weaponized against you, whether or not you're
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01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:14.400
actually aware or complicit isn't even the point anymore. And
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01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:19.139
so that's always important because the very usual suspects that
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we know are operating with bad intention and truly are
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01:02:25.860 --> 01:02:33.610
attempting to facilitate this dystopian agenda. It's fascinating to me
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01:02:33.670 --> 01:02:38.789
because it feels as if they will always attempt to
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01:02:38.949 --> 01:02:43.269
exploit every last opportunity and option available to them To
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01:02:43.510 --> 01:02:47.510
even apply that, you see that with the Epstein files, right?
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01:02:47.650 --> 01:02:51.050
Out of context Epstein emails that were never officially confirmed,
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01:02:51.130 --> 01:02:56.030
which were, you know, like essentially can stage a false.
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01:02:55.829 --> 01:02:56.800
Narrative, right?
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01:02:56.860 --> 01:02:59.139
Which I think are very important. That's important and interesting
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01:02:59.179 --> 01:03:01.099
in itself because you can imagine a world.
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01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:02.599
Where- Are you talking about like the Hamdallah hacks? Are
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you- Is that what you're saying? Some of these were
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01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.340
from the Hamdallah attacks or something? Is that what you're saying?
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01:03:08.460 --> 01:03:11.800
Well, I'm saying like FBI tips that were in the
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01:03:11.860 --> 01:03:16.650
files that were never officially confirmed to be legitimate emails whatsoever, right?
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01:03:16.690 --> 01:03:19.409
Like there are examples of that that have been pointed
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01:03:19.489 --> 01:03:22.949
to without the context being provided of the lack of
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01:03:23.030 --> 01:03:25.769
confirmation and the fact that some of these emails were
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01:03:25.829 --> 01:03:27.920
actually made out of whole cloth and inserted into.
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01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.699
Of the DOJ files by false tips, right?
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01:03:31.739 --> 01:03:35.829
And this is a framework that, you know, a sinister
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01:03:35.869 --> 01:03:41.610
criminal enterprise will effectively exploit that opportunity to disseminate misinformation
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01:03:41.670 --> 01:03:44.349
in that sense to undermine the, you know, the credible
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01:03:44.409 --> 01:03:48.400
connections being revealed within the document dumps, right? It's like,
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01:03:49.099 --> 01:03:54.679
and beyond that, you know, anyway, really, we can go
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01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.610
ahead and take the intermission at this point because I
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01:03:57.630 --> 01:04:01.130
just have after that, I just really have, you know,
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a couple of Peter Thiel connections and then essentially the
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01:04:04.389 --> 01:04:07.949
Epstein and and comedian connection, which I did think is fascinating.
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01:04:08.369 --> 01:04:12.179
And just understanding like this was a strategy in play
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01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.800
as far as compromising certain comedians on behalf of the network.
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01:04:15.860 --> 01:04:16.079
Right.
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01:04:16.099 --> 01:04:20.780
And so it's definitely in play. But but yeah, I
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01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:26.780
was just speaking out of. You know, this was specifically interesting.
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01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.860
my interpretation of the presentation of what I viewed the
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01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:37.469
elephant graveyard as straight up schizoslop. And this was the
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01:04:37.530 --> 01:04:39.789
only reason that I think it bothered me so much
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01:04:39.889 --> 01:04:42.889
was because of the valuable information that was injected into
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01:04:42.929 --> 01:04:49.469
certain areas of the presentation that I felt was, again,
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01:04:49.530 --> 01:04:52.300
not up to my standard, absolutely not. And then the
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01:04:52.340 --> 01:04:55.829
way in which it was inserted it seemed to lack
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01:04:55.909 --> 01:04:59.530
the credibility necessary and also almost undermine certain aspects of
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01:04:59.570 --> 01:05:04.800
it that I think were extraordinarily, you know, it should
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01:05:04.820 --> 01:05:08.699
be prioritized and, you know, viewed as I think the
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01:05:08.980 --> 01:05:12.119
fundamentally the most important aspect of the allegations being made
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01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:12.860
in the first place.
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01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.519
It's like this, again, there's a responsibility here.
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01:05:16.579 --> 01:05:21.519
So when I create content, when I legitimately, you know,
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01:05:22.860 --> 01:05:25.579
When I'm trying to apply myself with my solo projects,
1316
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:31.739
I could never imagine treating my audience the way in which,
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01:05:32.579 --> 01:05:39.869
in my mind, his presentation was geared to be presented toward.
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01:05:40.010 --> 01:05:42.530
I will never fall into that category as far as
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01:05:42.949 --> 01:05:46.969
an audience member that would be willing to appreciate and participate.
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01:05:47.409 --> 01:05:52.559
And again, just personally, whether he is right or not
1321
01:05:52.780 --> 01:05:55.219
in terms of the connections of some of this, which
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01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.489
we'll get into after the, uh, the intermission, just as
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01:05:58.510 --> 01:06:00.670
far as just a couple of the Epstein and Teal
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01:06:00.710 --> 01:06:05.110
connections to comedians. And again, I'm not at all addressing, Oh,
1325
01:06:05.190 --> 01:06:08.320
I am 100%. No, Joe Rogan's not compromised. Absolutely not.
1326
01:06:08.619 --> 01:06:12.260
You know, I've already made that, that, uh, uh, multiple times.
1327
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:14.030
You remember when I pulled up the last time, the
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01:06:14.090 --> 01:06:18.570
Andreessen connection to how they were reframing the flock narrative,
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01:06:18.630 --> 01:06:22.110
which was absolutely ridiculous in terms of that mass shooting
1330
01:06:22.130 --> 01:06:27.429
in Texas. So it's really more about the information being
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01:06:27.489 --> 01:06:30.510
presented in a way in which I refuse to appreciate
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01:06:30.590 --> 01:06:36.829
because I felt as if the intention was entirely, you know,
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01:06:37.690 --> 01:06:41.280
in my mind, I felt as if he was possessed
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01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:42.099
with bad intention.
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01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:42.900
That's what I felt.
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01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:44.940
And I felt, again, as if this was more personal
1337
01:06:44.980 --> 01:06:48.320
for him, as if maybe he truly was a failed comedian.
1338
01:06:48.449 --> 01:06:51.909
And this is a bitterness within him that he's addressed.
1339
01:06:51.969 --> 01:06:54.250
And this is speculation for me. I'm just saying I'm
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01:06:54.309 --> 01:06:57.949
trying to understand why he would feel the need to
1341
01:06:58.010 --> 01:07:00.610
be such a negative person in the way in which
1342
01:07:00.650 --> 01:07:04.409
he presents that information. There's a better way to acknowledge
1343
01:07:04.469 --> 01:07:08.809
these potential connections and this potential concept of you know,
1344
01:07:08.849 --> 01:07:13.110
just compromise in the influencer industrial complex landscape and, and
1345
01:07:13.849 --> 01:07:17.289
turning people away from the ideas in a sense, we'll
1346
01:07:17.329 --> 01:07:21.840
never accomplish that. And also just, again, it's like condemning
1347
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:26.579
the character of a person with especially the, the, the
1348
01:07:26.619 --> 01:07:29.840
sort of like surface level implications of some of the
1349
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:32.340
things in passing that he was, he was saying about
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01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:33.280
certain individuals.
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01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:36.670
It's just, it felt very irresponsible, you know?
1352
01:07:36.730 --> 01:07:39.960
So that was just, For me, I felt as if
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01:07:40.579 --> 01:07:43.519
he was checking every box for the pet peeves of
1354
01:07:43.579 --> 01:07:50.570
mine that essentially drive me mad in terms of, yeah,
1355
01:07:50.690 --> 01:07:55.409
digesting content as well. And yeah, whenever Rogan called out
1356
01:07:55.750 --> 01:07:57.789
Theo Vaughn, and it was very clear and obvious that
1357
01:07:57.829 --> 01:08:01.010
he was protecting and defending Peter Thiel in that way, right?
1358
01:08:01.110 --> 01:08:03.760
As far as that, there's many different videos where you
1359
01:08:03.780 --> 01:08:05.599
can see he seems to be going to bat on
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01:08:05.619 --> 01:08:09.130
behalf of the acolytes of Peter Thiel. And so it's
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01:08:09.170 --> 01:08:13.250
perfectly within question, you know, as far as open-mindedness and
1362
01:08:13.289 --> 01:08:16.069
being objective and just reading the tea leaves, it's very
1363
01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:18.739
clear that there's an influence operation playing out here.
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01:08:19.220 --> 01:08:24.100
Now, to what level can I claim that he is acting.
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01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:28.970
entirely in bad faith, is 100% controlled opposition, is getting
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01:08:29.029 --> 01:08:32.470
his checks signed by Peter Thiel in every way. He's
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01:08:32.510 --> 01:08:35.270
a member of all of these, you know, whatever secret
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01:08:35.310 --> 01:08:39.840
fraternal organization meetings that they're orchestrating behind the scenes to
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01:08:40.140 --> 01:08:43.199
decide our fate. If you want to make those statements,
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01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.739
you know, the comedies are that he's referring to and
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01:08:46.819 --> 01:08:50.659
attacking the walled garden, like the way that he presented
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01:08:50.779 --> 01:08:53.800
attacking the walled garden earlier, which was that quote that
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01:08:53.819 --> 01:08:57.329
I read verbatim earlier of of him saying that uh
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joe you know basically he says the guy doesn't fucking
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01:09:00.689 --> 01:09:04.840
know anything about anything or anybody i just thought wow
1376
01:09:05.689 --> 01:09:09.260
like how can you even say this about really like
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01:09:09.930 --> 01:09:13.029
someone who is so much more successful has achieved so
1378
01:09:13.090 --> 01:09:14.050
much more than you could.
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01:09:13.989 --> 01:09:15.229
Ever imagine, right?
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As far as this person on the Elephant Graveyard podcast
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or whatever the fuck his channel's name is.
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01:09:20.890 --> 01:09:22.810
It's like for you to essentially claim.
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01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:25.560
Austin, you're talking about a video that's got multiple millions
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01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:27.760
of views. You've made this point multiple times and like
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the very fact of... And I actually, to bring it back,
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01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.560
this is kind of, it's brought up in the video.
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01:09:32.579 --> 01:09:34.159
This is a cope that's brought up by the Rogan's
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01:09:34.180 --> 01:09:36.420
Fear all the time, what you're saying right now, and
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01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:38.890
I actually completely disagree with that. Like, it's actually kind
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01:09:38.909 --> 01:09:41.399
of an inversion. I actually think this idea, this is
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the parasocial thing I'm talking about. It's like deferring or
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01:09:44.420 --> 01:09:47.060
whatever this is because look at the success. Look at this.
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01:09:47.460 --> 01:09:50.319
This is somehow proof when they've kind of nestled themselves
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next to power through these relationships. So, I mean, I
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01:09:54.109 --> 01:09:55.930
don't know. By the way, I'd like to go on
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this more. We're at about hour 10. I kept a
1397
01:09:58.189 --> 01:10:00.180
couple notes. I have some stuff, more stuff I want
1398
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:03.039
to talk about. Caller, please call in. I feel bad
1399
01:10:03.060 --> 01:10:05.699
we dropped it. I will, I will forcefully bring you
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in this time around. So, but, uh, Austin, are you
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01:10:08.890 --> 01:10:11.170
ready to go to intermission? Cause we can have this
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01:10:11.229 --> 01:10:13.289
rumble again in the post show, but I want to
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01:10:13.329 --> 01:10:16.050
go feed my kitty real quick. Which by the way, uh,
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01:10:16.109 --> 01:10:18.210
Jacob might be joining you when I come back in,
1405
01:10:18.250 --> 01:10:20.350
but I will be very shortly, like minutes. If not,
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01:10:20.750 --> 01:10:21.869
you know, ready to go. I gotta go feed a
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01:10:21.899 --> 01:10:22.520
kitty real quick.
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No, that's fine.
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01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.850
I just, uh, I, I, I really think you missed
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01:10:26.869 --> 01:10:29.010
the point of attacking the walled garden. As far as
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I'm concerned, like, like it, it makes sense why you
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01:10:32.569 --> 01:10:35.899
would want to protect everything that you've built.
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01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:36.840
You know what I mean?
1414
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:40.140
Like, and to not understand that as far as like the,
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01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:45.069
the proverbial nerd, just like the prevailing mentality, you know, of, of, uh,
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01:10:45.460 --> 01:10:49.600
you know, achieving something real, which so many people have
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01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:56.369
this kind of, uh, um, what's the term whenever you have, um, um, you,
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01:10:56.430 --> 01:11:00.850
you essentially can like, you almost consider yourself to be
1419
01:11:00.890 --> 01:11:03.989
a fraud, right? What's the term whenever you have that,
1420
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:08.439
that kind of sense of imposter syndrome, that's the term. And,
1421
01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:11.520
and so I'm just saying like so many people are
1422
01:11:11.539 --> 01:11:16.960
just attempting to essentially, they want to, to protect their assets,
1423
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:20.270
to protect their family, to protect everything they've built. And
1424
01:11:20.329 --> 01:11:23.270
so they also become willing to play ball. There's just
1425
01:11:23.350 --> 01:11:25.890
so many different options on the table as far as
1426
01:11:26.739 --> 01:11:29.279
to what level is a person compromised? And I'm just
1427
01:11:29.300 --> 01:11:33.989
trying to remain objective in that interpretation and also understand
1428
01:11:34.609 --> 01:11:37.090
that exactly what he said as far as the million
1429
01:11:37.130 --> 01:11:41.350
clips that he's addressed the walled garden and how individuals
1430
01:11:41.390 --> 01:11:43.829
are attacking the walled garden because they desperately want to
1431
01:11:43.890 --> 01:11:47.529
be invited to the party, right? That's kind of the
1432
01:11:47.569 --> 01:11:49.850
concept that he's mentioning with that idea.
1433
01:11:50.609 --> 01:11:53.399
And there's absolute truth to that. That's the only point
1434
01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:54.060
that I'm making.
1435
01:11:54.140 --> 01:11:57.300
And so for that to to also have been like,
1436
01:11:58.060 --> 01:12:02.109
you know, uh, as if it's, you should almost characterize
1437
01:12:02.130 --> 01:12:05.770
that as a negative, right. To protect, uh, you know,
1438
01:12:06.689 --> 01:12:09.869
everything that you've built as well as the inner circle
1439
01:12:09.909 --> 01:12:10.689
that you trust.
1440
01:12:11.149 --> 01:12:13.729
It's like, no, that's absolutely natural.
1441
01:12:13.869 --> 01:12:16.829
You know, it's exactly what you, I mean, that's what
1442
01:12:16.890 --> 01:12:19.600
I would attempt to do is, and this is in
1443
01:12:19.649 --> 01:12:23.569
no way Me claiming that he's obviously not a controlled
1444
01:12:23.689 --> 01:12:24.970
asset or to what degree.
1445
01:12:25.250 --> 01:12:29.489
But this walled garden that he's describing is essentially all
1446
01:12:29.529 --> 01:12:32.550
these people who surround him and this parasocial dynamic that
1447
01:12:32.590 --> 01:12:37.270
he's created that's borderline unassailable due to this dynamic he's creating. So,
1448
01:12:37.729 --> 01:12:42.369
I mean, I don't know what the impasse is here between,
1449
01:12:42.390 --> 01:12:44.890
but I totally get why he goes over the walled garden.
1450
01:12:44.930 --> 01:12:46.670
That's what he's trying to describe. He's not trying to
1451
01:12:46.689 --> 01:12:49.239
describe that necessarily this is something that somebody has they're
1452
01:12:49.260 --> 01:12:51.779
trying to protect. It's the parasocial nature of all of it.
1453
01:12:52.060 --> 01:12:54.600
And then also the proximity to power and like the
1454
01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:57.239
negative aspect of all of this and essentially how it's
1455
01:12:57.279 --> 01:12:59.939
created all these great comedians that have kind of been
1456
01:12:59.970 --> 01:13:02.289
sucked into it and been like kind of, you know,
1457
01:13:02.409 --> 01:13:04.369
these weird incentives that have been created and some of
1458
01:13:04.390 --> 01:13:06.310
these negative, these, some of these not so great comedians
1459
01:13:06.350 --> 01:13:09.909
have been elevated when let's be real. Like, I mean,
1460
01:13:10.210 --> 01:13:11.989
I don't want to like pick on comedians, but like,
1461
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:14.779
Has anyone really laughed at Bert Kreischer for anything other
1462
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:16.970
than just being a fat piece of shit? Like, have
1463
01:13:17.010 --> 01:13:22.090
you ever been like, what a clever joke? Like, it's
1464
01:13:22.170 --> 01:13:25.590
this right here. And you create these other behemoths of
1465
01:13:25.630 --> 01:13:28.529
industry that surround you in the same sense that Elon
1466
01:13:28.569 --> 01:13:31.069
goes around and fucking nuts in every bitch to create
1467
01:13:31.090 --> 01:13:34.510
his army of his own walled garden. of his little
1468
01:13:34.529 --> 01:13:37.069
mini Elon's that protect him in the future. But it's this,
1469
01:13:37.289 --> 01:13:39.649
it's this, this like path to power that he's creating.
1470
01:13:39.670 --> 01:13:41.869
That's all he's describing. I don't know. I guess I
1471
01:13:41.890 --> 01:13:43.770
just don't get this idea of like characterizing in a
1472
01:13:43.829 --> 01:13:47.439
negative way. I mean, it kind of is, has pretty
1473
01:13:47.449 --> 01:13:48.520
good explanatory power.
1474
01:13:48.609 --> 01:13:51.479
I think it all felt like a, a teardown of
1475
01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.119
a successful person as well, though, like not to say
1476
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.039
that that's the only intention that he had, you.
1477
01:13:56.979 --> 01:13:59.479
Know, it was, but for a good reason, that's the point.
1478
01:14:00.859 --> 01:14:01.039
Yeah.
1479
01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:03.739
I don't feel like he had good intentions though. You know, like,
1480
01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:05.079
that's just my opinion.
1481
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:08.159
But this is the point. You're reading his mind. And, like,
1482
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.060
this is, I don't know, it just seems like this
1483
01:14:10.100 --> 01:14:13.779
idea of, like, okay, all right. It's just kind of
1484
01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:15.899
this unknowable thing, and you're accusing him of being a
1485
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:19.159
sloppy and going into unknowable things. I don't know. I'm
1486
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:20.100
not trying to be a dick here.
1487
01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:25.430
But when he was just running his mouth, running off
1488
01:14:25.470 --> 01:14:28.710
at the mouth for 15 minutes straight without even getting
1489
01:14:28.770 --> 01:14:33.750
into anything whatsoever of substance, not really making points like
1490
01:14:33.829 --> 01:14:36.289
some of the points that that were made were yeah
1491
01:14:36.369 --> 01:14:40.229
absolutely they were based in truth but but still it
1492
01:14:40.270 --> 01:14:43.130
was just it very much seemed to me that it
1493
01:14:43.270 --> 01:14:46.729
was this was personal for him as far as the
1494
01:14:46.770 --> 01:14:50.229
personalities that he was targeting now again it's like i'm
1495
01:14:50.270 --> 01:14:53.489
talking about the presentation of the information in which it
1496
01:14:53.609 --> 01:14:56.880
wasn't about the sub substantial connections it wasn't at all
1497
01:14:56.939 --> 01:15:00.699
it was so much more based in character assassination And
1498
01:15:00.739 --> 01:15:05.380
these strange, you know, just very insulting asides, you know,
1499
01:15:05.500 --> 01:15:08.869
directed towards people. Obviously, he doesn't know. And it's just like,
1500
01:15:08.890 --> 01:15:12.789
I do not believe there's value in that. And it
1501
01:15:12.829 --> 01:15:16.409
will only inevitably rob the value that does exist in it.
1502
01:15:16.569 --> 01:15:18.930
So I just that's all that I'm saying.
1503
01:15:19.310 --> 01:15:20.310
This is no this.
1504
01:15:20.529 --> 01:15:23.239
Again, I think I don't know why you feel the
1505
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:26.340
need to defend this guy. I mean, because basically, to me.
1506
01:15:27.140 --> 01:15:30.090
I mean, I just I'm just I'm voicing my opinion
1507
01:15:30.149 --> 01:15:31.750
is to be honest and on the record here, because
1508
01:15:31.789 --> 01:15:34.449
I actually have the obvious the opposite of like it
1509
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.279
kind of is like, why do you have this reflexive,
1510
01:15:36.340 --> 01:15:40.529
like defensive of. this joe and this fear of people
1511
01:15:40.569 --> 01:15:43.250
surrounding him i mean yeah which we'll get into we
1512
01:15:43.470 --> 01:15:45.380
need to get an intermission i do gotta go i
1513
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.060
do have plenty i want to talk about and you
1514
01:15:47.100 --> 01:15:47.760
keep you.
1515
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:49.720
Keep fucking teasing me and chucking me back in sorry
1516
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:51.920
dog sucking me back in but you gotta go to
1517
01:15:51.939 --> 01:15:54.220
her mission i gotta go give a kitty some uh
1518
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.430
go kitty uh feed him some bitty and uh we'll
1519
01:15:57.449 --> 01:15:59.649
come back and uh i see everywhere the chat it's
1520
01:15:59.670 --> 01:16:02.270
like move on we're not moving on all right you
1521
01:16:02.289 --> 01:16:04.289
know if you want to move on caller call back
1522
01:16:04.409 --> 01:16:06.210
and make us change subject all right.
1523
01:16:06.989 --> 01:16:10.390
No, I really did want to address the valuable concepts
1524
01:16:10.449 --> 01:16:14.430
that he injected into that presentation. But I wanted to
1525
01:16:15.090 --> 01:16:19.380
entirely criticize the presentation as well. And so that was
1526
01:16:19.460 --> 01:16:23.819
my personal interpretation of the entire episode.
1527
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:25.920
And I'll leave it at that.
1528
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.560
But whenever we get back from intermission, I did only
1529
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:32.590
have a few things that were at least appreciating those
1530
01:16:32.630 --> 01:16:35.850
valuable concepts and then addressing the detail that I think
1531
01:16:35.909 --> 01:16:38.989
was was most valuable about it. And so just to
1532
01:16:39.050 --> 01:16:41.510
prove that it wasn't about, you know, as far as
1533
01:16:41.550 --> 01:16:46.170
like this, for me personally, I'm not devaluing some of
1534
01:16:46.489 --> 01:16:49.449
the more important concepts that he did present in that presentation.
1535
01:16:49.609 --> 01:16:51.479
I just didn't value the presentation.
1536
01:16:51.689 --> 01:16:55.420
And I thought the presentation in itself really damaged the
1537
01:16:55.460 --> 01:16:58.239
credibility of those ideas and concepts in general and how
1538
01:16:58.260 --> 01:17:01.399
they should be internalized and interpreted. That's my biggest problem.
1539
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:04.520
That was really it, man. So I promise you, you know,
1540
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:05.399
it's entirely.
1541
01:17:06.149 --> 01:17:06.369
I'm.
1542
01:17:06.350 --> 01:17:14.319
Okay with the fact that, that, uh, you know, apparently I, well,
1543
01:17:14.340 --> 01:17:18.239
and I mentioned earlier, just that one aspect of how
1544
01:17:18.579 --> 01:17:21.779
it is mutual beneficial whenever you do target and character
1545
01:17:21.819 --> 01:17:26.899
assassinate people of such prominence, because it will in just inevitably, uh,
1546
01:17:27.010 --> 01:17:32.390
you know, result in, uh, it will inevitably result though.
1547
01:17:32.890 --> 01:17:33.090
Right.
1548
01:17:33.250 --> 01:17:37.479
And, and essentially, uh, you know, a mutually beneficial outcome,
1549
01:17:37.539 --> 01:17:40.859
which is basically you will benefit off of the coattails
1550
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.720
of the prominence of the prominent figures that you are
1551
01:17:43.779 --> 01:17:46.680
now attempting to tear down and character assassinate.
1552
01:17:46.739 --> 01:17:48.739
So I will say there's always, you.
1553
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:50.460
Keep sucking me in and the inverse is there's the
1554
01:17:50.500 --> 01:17:53.779
people who are riding the coattails, uh, not saying things.
1555
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.800
So like the dynamic week.
1556
01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:57.119
Yeah.
1557
01:17:57.380 --> 01:17:57.960
So yeah.
1558
01:17:58.399 --> 01:17:58.539
Sorry.
1559
01:17:58.579 --> 01:17:59.100
I had a little set.
1560
01:17:59.149 --> 01:18:01.060
I think that I got a little wonky there. So
1561
01:18:01.430 --> 01:18:01.970
All good, buddy.
1562
01:18:01.989 --> 01:18:03.310
Let's do this intermission, dog.
1563
01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:06.140
All right, we're going to intermission, so let's fucking do it.
1564
01:18:06.420 --> 01:18:08.180
All right, we'll see you guys in a few minutes.
1565
01:18:16.859 --> 01:18:17.600
It feels good.
1566
01:18:17.619 --> 01:18:21.560
I mean, if you're seven years old and somebody, which
1567
01:18:21.619 --> 01:18:23.460
I was trying to say this to my friends who
1568
01:18:23.500 --> 01:18:26.479
had children, you're seven years old and someone is stroking
1569
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:30.140
your penis, it feels good. Even though you don't have
1570
01:18:30.180 --> 01:18:33.939
a name for what that is, it feels good. And
1571
01:18:33.979 --> 01:18:35.659
when I first said this years ago, people were like,
1572
01:18:35.699 --> 01:18:39.199
you're crazy because everybody wants to believe it's like sexual
1573
01:18:39.220 --> 01:18:41.119
assault and you're being thrown up against the wall and
1574
01:18:41.140 --> 01:18:43.520
you're being raped. And I have said for years, if
1575
01:18:43.779 --> 01:18:45.720
the abuser is any good.
1576
01:18:45.770 --> 01:18:45.850
So.
1577
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:59.569
What do you think women's liberation is about?
1578
01:20:19.859 --> 01:20:23.479
And I said, I'm pretty conventional thinking about it at
1579
01:20:23.539 --> 01:20:24.039
that point.
1580
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:26.600
I said, I think that women have the right to work,
1581
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:28.960
get equal pay with men, just like they want the
1582
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:29.560
right to vote.
1583
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:31.399
You know, and he started to laugh.
1584
01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:33.359
He said, you're an idiot. And I said, why am
1585
01:20:33.380 --> 01:20:33.680
I an idiot?
1586
01:20:33.739 --> 01:20:36.380
He said, you know, let me tell you.
1587
01:20:36.300 --> 01:20:39.720
What that was about. We, the Rockefellers, funded that. We
1588
01:20:39.779 --> 01:20:41.600
funded Women's Lib, you know.
1589
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:44.159
And we're the ones who got all of the newspapers
1590
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:45.979
and television, the Rockefeller Foundation.
1591
01:20:47.310 --> 01:20:48.520
He says, and you want to know why?
1592
01:20:48.529 --> 01:20:51.779
He says, there were two primary reasons. And they were,
1593
01:20:51.939 --> 01:20:52.680
one reason.
1594
01:20:52.500 --> 01:20:54.460
Was, we couldn't tax half.
1595
01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:56.640
The population before women's lived.
1596
01:20:56.779 --> 01:20:59.520
And the second reason was, now.
1597
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.159
We get the kids at school at an early age.
1598
01:21:01.420 --> 01:21:03.979
We can indoctrinate the kids how to think, which would
1599
01:21:04.020 --> 01:21:05.079
have breaks up their family.
1600
01:21:06.340 --> 01:21:09.319
The kids start looking at the state as the family,
1601
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:10.739
as the school, as the.
1602
01:21:10.699 --> 01:21:13.880
Officials, as their family, not as the parents teaching them.
1603
01:21:15.550 --> 01:21:17.170
And so those were two parts of it.
1604
01:21:17.270 --> 01:21:18.350
I don't know what it was.
1605
01:21:18.449 --> 01:21:19.470
It was a noble thing.
1606
01:21:19.569 --> 01:21:22.789
You know, when I saw their intentions behind it, when
1607
01:21:22.829 --> 01:21:26.520
they were coming for it, when they created it, when they.
1608
01:21:27.140 --> 01:21:29.300
Thought of it, I saw the evil.
1609
01:21:29.220 --> 01:21:31.539
Behind what I thought was another invention.
1610
01:21:32.899 --> 01:21:34.189
Aaron, did you.
1611
01:21:39.109 --> 01:21:42.470
Know that Gloria Stern is now the host of C.I.A.
1612
01:21:42.489 --> 01:21:42.869
No, I know.
1613
01:21:42.909 --> 01:21:43.649
No, I never heard that.
1614
01:21:43.689 --> 01:21:45.829
C.I.A. is the founder of this magazine?
1615
01:21:46.170 --> 01:21:49.880
The founder of this magazine.
1616
01:21:49.939 --> 01:21:50.079
C.I.A.
1617
01:21:50.100 --> 01:21:50.340
Is the host.
1618
01:21:50.460 --> 01:21:51.060
No kidding.
1619
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:51.859
I never heard that.
1620
01:21:51.939 --> 01:21:53.159
Well, then they told me.
1621
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:53.859
I mean, I know it.
1622
01:21:53.939 --> 01:21:56.359
I know C.I.A. was a problem.
1623
01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:56.819
C.I.A.
1624
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:57.560
Was a problem.
1625
01:21:57.640 --> 01:21:57.939
C.I.A.
1626
01:21:57.979 --> 01:21:58.899
Was a problem.
1627
01:21:59.859 --> 01:22:01.340
No tears for me.
1628
01:22:26.380 --> 01:22:33.199
Well, see, the whole thing is.
1629
01:22:34.310 --> 01:22:36.479
These people just want to die.
1630
01:22:36.569 --> 01:22:38.579
Because they make all the rules.
1631
01:23:07.029 --> 01:23:17.850
Threats, coercion, imprisonment, isolation, deprivation, humiliation, torture, brainwashing, black psychology, hypnosis,
1632
01:23:18.140 --> 01:23:21.859
and combinations of these with or without chemical agents.
1633
01:23:48.619 --> 01:23:49.420
We'll be right back.
1634
01:24:43.649 --> 01:24:44.729
All right, you're back.
1635
01:24:45.430 --> 01:24:46.989
Did I make it just in time? Holy shit.
1636
01:24:47.289 --> 01:24:48.109
Just in time.
1637
01:24:48.529 --> 01:24:48.729
No way.
1638
01:24:48.770 --> 01:24:51.850
Just enough for me to say that you were back. Oh, perfect.
1639
01:24:51.970 --> 01:24:53.869
All right, cool. We're back. All right, do we have
1640
01:24:53.890 --> 01:24:56.010
a caller? Oh, no, we don't have a caller. Okay.
1641
01:24:57.810 --> 01:24:59.390
All right, we're back. I didn't even get to see
1642
01:24:59.430 --> 01:25:01.090
the intermission. Was it a good one? What do you
1643
01:25:01.109 --> 01:25:03.869
guys think? Tell me in the chat. Austin, what do
1644
01:25:03.909 --> 01:25:06.470
you think? It was really good. Oh, it wasn't one
1645
01:25:06.489 --> 01:25:08.149
of his, though. He got it from somebody else. So
1646
01:25:08.170 --> 01:25:10.250
to be very clear, just for credit purposes.
1647
01:25:10.270 --> 01:25:12.890
I enjoyed the hell out of that, to be honest.
1648
01:25:12.970 --> 01:25:16.310
It was. No, that was an original. That was mine.
1649
01:25:16.770 --> 01:25:18.069
Oh, was it? Oh, I remember you had said in
1650
01:25:18.090 --> 01:25:20.010
the chat you were having. OK, so you played like
1651
01:25:20.029 --> 01:25:21.390
an old one or something. OK, my bad.
1652
01:25:21.510 --> 01:25:21.729
All right.
1653
01:25:21.829 --> 01:25:22.109
All right.
1654
01:25:22.130 --> 01:25:23.289
So I thought maybe you're playing somebody else.
1655
01:25:23.350 --> 01:25:23.569
All right.
1656
01:25:23.609 --> 01:25:26.710
So it was one of Jacob's. So, uh, credit the
1657
01:25:26.729 --> 01:25:31.899
man himself, the myth, uh, the legend. Uh, but all right, cool.
1658
01:25:32.380 --> 01:25:33.659
Uh, sorry.
1659
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:35.479
I'm a little out of breath running back from kitties.
1660
01:25:37.979 --> 01:25:40.000
I had to like swap out the syringe cause it is.
1661
01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:41.180
And I had to like, well, it's like, oh fuck,
1662
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:43.609
where is it? Cause I thought I had everything ready
1663
01:25:43.649 --> 01:25:45.189
to go. And so I was like, I got six
1664
01:25:45.250 --> 01:25:48.770
minutes to feed this fucking kitty. So, all right, I'm here. Uh,
1665
01:25:49.609 --> 01:25:51.380
all right. Well, I guess we're, we're getting into it.
1666
01:25:51.409 --> 01:25:52.550
We're in the, uh, by the way, we are on
1667
01:25:52.569 --> 01:25:54.670
the patron call in portion of the show. So if
1668
01:25:54.729 --> 01:25:57.170
you are a patron in the bag, you can come
1669
01:25:57.310 --> 01:26:01.029
in or you guys can just see. me and Austin
1670
01:26:01.109 --> 01:26:04.880
duke it out a little bit more. I guess, I mean,
1671
01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:09.500
there's some things I'm trying to think to rethink these
1672
01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:12.140
things through, because there's some things you've been repeating, so
1673
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:13.600
I guess I feel like I should address them, at
1674
01:26:13.619 --> 01:26:17.100
least give my thing. You've pointed out this guilt by
1675
01:26:17.140 --> 01:26:21.500
association thing, and kind of that they're getting into this teal,
1676
01:26:21.699 --> 01:26:22.819
and I will agree, there's a sloppy.
1677
01:26:22.850 --> 01:26:24.909
We've discussed that in the past, is what I mentioned,
1678
01:26:24.989 --> 01:26:28.350
is that concept, right? Because you had mentioned that whenever
1679
01:26:28.390 --> 01:26:31.909
we brought it up on the show previously is just
1680
01:26:31.970 --> 01:26:35.460
as an idea of Peter Thiel and his acolytes, basically
1681
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:39.039
his representatives reaching out and attempting to orchestrate a dinner
1682
01:26:39.100 --> 01:26:44.220
party for various, you know, prominent authors or, or, you know,
1683
01:26:44.300 --> 01:26:48.140
whatever industry you're prominent within is, is clearly you're, you're
1684
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:51.960
a target now as far as the, the, the Thiel
1685
01:26:52.220 --> 01:26:54.510
space is concerned or whatever you want to call his,
1686
01:26:54.649 --> 01:27:01.390
his level of influence. And, It's very obvious that this
1687
01:27:01.699 --> 01:27:04.529
is a strategy in play and it's a kind of
1688
01:27:04.569 --> 01:27:08.569
playbook being recycled over and over again to compromise various
1689
01:27:08.609 --> 01:27:14.270
individuals to become controlled assets if they're not entirely voluntarily
1690
01:27:14.350 --> 01:27:18.659
willing to become. If you remember They Live, that movie
1691
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:21.279
that I dissected the other day on the stream of consciousness.
1692
01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:25.550
there was a human alliance with the interdimensional alien class
1693
01:27:25.609 --> 01:27:29.630
that were deciding our fate and exploiting the human civilization
1694
01:27:29.689 --> 01:27:33.289
for their benefit. And it felt to me like that's
1695
01:27:33.350 --> 01:27:36.609
basically what, you know, we see with this influencer class
1696
01:27:36.689 --> 01:27:39.840
that are very much doing the bidding of the Peter
1697
01:27:39.859 --> 01:27:43.279
Thiel's of the world, right? Is essentially they have made
1698
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:47.720
an alliance with, you know, the pedophile occupied governments or,
1699
01:27:47.850 --> 01:27:49.850
you know, the Satanist lizard people, whatever you want to
1700
01:27:49.890 --> 01:27:54.680
call them, I don't know. And are are basically providing
1701
01:27:54.739 --> 01:27:58.460
protection on their behalf, as well as facilitating false framework
1702
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.279
narratives to reinforce that concept.
1703
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:03.279
And they're benefiting from it all the while.
1704
01:28:03.380 --> 01:28:03.560
Right.
1705
01:28:03.859 --> 01:28:07.439
Where they're having these secret meetings in these event centers
1706
01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:10.760
and they're addressing how these new human members of the
1707
01:28:10.819 --> 01:28:15.750
alliance are benefiting like in wealth and assets and property.
1708
01:28:16.130 --> 01:28:19.350
And so it's like, yes, I believe that's a good.
1709
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:23.979
The exact structure of compromise and influence playing out with
1710
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:29.699
this clandestine operation to to usher in that dystopian agenda.
1711
01:28:30.979 --> 01:28:35.609
But there was what I appreciated from the video, right,
1712
01:28:35.729 --> 01:28:39.430
which I haven't gotten to address yet because I was hypercritical,
1713
01:28:39.470 --> 01:28:43.079
I'll be honest. And I'm fully willing to admit that.
1714
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:45.859
I think it's very, very clear and obvious that it
1715
01:28:45.939 --> 01:28:47.140
bothered me.
1716
01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.479
It sounds like you're about to roll into the things.
1717
01:28:50.180 --> 01:28:53.619
There's some stuff I've got to address. So you talked
1718
01:28:53.659 --> 01:28:56.199
about the guilt by association thing, and I agree. People
1719
01:28:56.220 --> 01:28:58.810
get sloppy with that. That's totally fair.
1720
01:28:58.819 --> 01:28:59.359
Yeah.
1721
01:29:00.380 --> 01:29:01.720
I guess it would be like, kind of like, well,
1722
01:29:01.739 --> 01:29:04.560
where was it sloppy here? But that's not, I'm not
1723
01:29:04.579 --> 01:29:06.720
trying to get into a side tangent on that, but
1724
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:09.220
it's like, okay, guilt by association. And we did point
1725
01:29:09.279 --> 01:29:11.789
out some minor aspects of the video that was sloppy,
1726
01:29:11.850 --> 01:29:14.590
but so far as guilt by association, I don't, I mean,
1727
01:29:14.630 --> 01:29:16.829
aside from maybe Joe himself, so none of these other
1728
01:29:16.850 --> 01:29:21.189
really characters that I can recall specifically were necessarily being,
1729
01:29:21.449 --> 01:29:25.619
that my impression painted with a necessarily they're a hundred percent,
1730
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:27.640
you know, with, you know, but it's, they were kind
1731
01:29:27.659 --> 01:29:31.250
of expressing this, parasocial dynamic that is occurring here essentially
1732
01:29:31.729 --> 01:29:33.909
and that like yes there is a network there's an
1733
01:29:33.949 --> 01:29:36.729
incentive structure in place there are yeah I'm sure there
1734
01:29:36.789 --> 01:29:38.689
are some people who are you know scum and are
1735
01:29:38.750 --> 01:29:41.060
kind of like playing the game in a certain way
1736
01:29:41.100 --> 01:29:43.319
and some people are just I mean whatever they're kind
1737
01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:45.399
of they're kind of caught up into and there's there's
1738
01:29:45.460 --> 01:29:47.899
degrees of this so like obviously the further you get
1739
01:29:47.939 --> 01:29:51.380
away from the primary character the less it's like and
1740
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:53.350
even then even if you are doing one degree of
1741
01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:55.710
separation it's like well what is the relationship what's the
1742
01:29:55.970 --> 01:29:58.579
there's all sorts of and I mean this is but
1743
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:00.789
that's kind of where our job comes into play, I guess.
1744
01:30:00.829 --> 01:30:02.710
And this is kind of, it almost feels like some,
1745
01:30:02.750 --> 01:30:04.720
a little bit of like old man yelling at clouds, like,
1746
01:30:05.189 --> 01:30:07.430
Why is this, you know, video that's a little bit more,
1747
01:30:07.449 --> 01:30:09.529
you know, fast and loose with the facts doing so?
1748
01:30:09.569 --> 01:30:11.250
It's kind of like being mad at Alex Jones or
1749
01:30:11.289 --> 01:30:13.350
even being mad at Sam Tripoli. They have a different
1750
01:30:13.369 --> 01:30:16.869
way of presenting the information. So, like, I totally– so
1751
01:30:16.890 --> 01:30:18.489
it is a little bit– I get, like, yeah, there is, like, hey,
1752
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:20.500
maybe straighten up, young man. Get your facts straight. I
1753
01:30:20.899 --> 01:30:22.560
totally get that. But it is also a little bit–
1754
01:30:22.579 --> 01:30:24.100
that's kind of the nature of what's going to end
1755
01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:26.600
up doing numbers. And people like you that like– me
1756
01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:28.239
and you that like to keep our nose to grindstone
1757
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:30.739
and keep– read books and do try to have– you know,
1758
01:30:30.779 --> 01:30:33.510
try to keep it, you know, tight. It is, you know, frustrating,
1759
01:30:33.550 --> 01:30:36.029
and I get that. And you've kind of gone out
1760
01:30:36.050 --> 01:30:37.729
a little bit too about the idea of like how
1761
01:30:37.789 --> 01:30:40.989
these Kind of breaking down you these people and once again,
1762
01:30:41.010 --> 01:30:43.210
it would be like there's this like inflation game that's
1763
01:30:43.250 --> 01:30:45.050
occurring here and I think It may not even be you.
1764
01:30:45.069 --> 01:30:46.289
This is how a lot of people, and it's like,
1765
01:30:46.350 --> 01:30:48.210
are you talking about Joe? Are you talking about one
1766
01:30:48.250 --> 01:30:51.210
of his other... And that kind of happens in this video, too. Because, now,
1767
01:30:51.430 --> 01:30:54.829
I will say, if the commentary here is they're tearing
1768
01:30:54.869 --> 01:30:58.409
down a man, then, yeah, fuck Joe. Fuck Joe Rogan.
1769
01:30:58.430 --> 01:31:02.020
I can't be more, like, certain about that at this point. Like,
1770
01:31:02.100 --> 01:31:03.850
I don't know how many more times as a grown
1771
01:31:03.899 --> 01:31:05.939
man we're talking about who's getting paid millions of dollars
1772
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:09.239
to talk about his thoughts into a microphone. I... It's...
1773
01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:11.880
This is... I mean, he has gone to such a
1774
01:31:11.909 --> 01:31:16.819
ridiculous degree of like placating power that it's like, yes,
1775
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:19.430
we don't have any sort of like certain thing, but
1776
01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:23.630
we were in such a degree of pattern recognition, circumstantial evidence,
1777
01:31:23.689 --> 01:31:26.460
whatever you want to call it to where like, motherfucker
1778
01:31:26.539 --> 01:31:29.319
is like even if he if if you're trying if
1779
01:31:29.430 --> 01:31:32.270
anyone's trying to tell me he's not legit compromise in
1780
01:31:32.289 --> 01:31:34.689
the most explicit of terms and all you're trying to
1781
01:31:34.729 --> 01:31:36.689
tell me is he's the dumbest of motherfuckers and i
1782
01:31:36.729 --> 01:31:38.409
will agree with you i don't think joe's as dumb
1783
01:31:38.449 --> 01:31:39.810
as people think he is i do think he's dumb
1784
01:31:39.850 --> 01:31:42.569
in some ways but he does what uh people have
1785
01:31:42.609 --> 01:31:45.069
lovingly coined uh dave smith is doing he does as
1786
01:31:45.109 --> 01:31:47.979
well called the dipshit gambit where he plays dumb at
1787
01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:50.420
certain things when And so he does that with a
1788
01:31:50.460 --> 01:31:51.760
lot of Teal and Rogan things.
1789
01:31:52.319 --> 01:31:52.619
Oh, what?
1790
01:31:53.119 --> 01:31:55.739
Oh, he's involved in the Gods of War? Bring that up, Jamie.
1791
01:31:56.100 --> 01:31:58.579
So he does this kind of playing dumb game. So
1792
01:31:59.180 --> 01:32:01.060
I guess to that, too, it's also would be like
1793
01:32:01.270 --> 01:32:04.649
I could be sympathetic if maybe the commentary someone's making
1794
01:32:04.689 --> 01:32:07.770
is maybe some of these secondary characters. I don't really remember.
1795
01:32:08.170 --> 01:32:09.590
I would say the ones I remember he was more
1796
01:32:09.649 --> 01:32:12.970
scathing towards, I felt like generally sort of deserved it.
1797
01:32:13.619 --> 01:32:16.510
I know Duncan Trussell felt, not Duncan Trussell, but Kurt
1798
01:32:16.529 --> 01:32:18.189
Metzger felt some sort of way and said some stuff
1799
01:32:18.390 --> 01:32:20.550
after the fact. I didn't even remember him getting it
1800
01:32:20.590 --> 01:32:23.069
that hard. So it was kind of bizarre that like, what,
1801
01:32:23.130 --> 01:32:25.310
why are you, you know, Doth protest too much sort
1802
01:32:25.329 --> 01:32:28.689
of thing. But so like there might be characters, but
1803
01:32:28.750 --> 01:32:31.229
generally speaking, like, I don't, I don't know. That's kind
1804
01:32:31.250 --> 01:32:33.130
of where, I mean, with the guilt by association, same
1805
01:32:33.149 --> 01:32:34.810
people say this stuff about the Epstein files. And that
1806
01:32:34.869 --> 01:32:37.770
is like, it's also like, yeah, also, yeah, sorry. We, we,
1807
01:32:37.829 --> 01:32:39.649
we live in a world of nuance. It is, And
1808
01:32:39.670 --> 01:32:41.710
there are going to be larger content creators that are
1809
01:32:41.750 --> 01:32:43.310
playing fast and loose with the thing. And we can
1810
01:32:43.340 --> 01:32:45.720
point out where they're wrong. And that's what we're here for.
1811
01:32:45.739 --> 01:32:47.859
I mean, it's just kind of it's an eternal struggle
1812
01:32:47.899 --> 01:32:48.680
we wage, you know.
1813
01:32:48.699 --> 01:32:50.920
Exactly.
1814
01:32:52.300 --> 01:32:55.949
And really, I think the crux of my personal problem
1815
01:32:56.170 --> 01:33:01.930
with the presentation was just basically I felt like it was, again,
1816
01:33:01.970 --> 01:33:02.270
kind of.
1817
01:33:03.029 --> 01:33:06.069
Based in an emotional character assassination.
1818
01:33:06.229 --> 01:33:08.380
You know, like it didn't seem to be based in
1819
01:33:08.569 --> 01:33:12.399
the detailed facts that I would focus and prioritize clearly.
1820
01:33:12.460 --> 01:33:15.520
So I think it was more that that that bothered
1821
01:33:15.539 --> 01:33:19.630
me because it was less about the substantial, you know,
1822
01:33:19.949 --> 01:33:23.189
connections that deserved the due diligence as in the presentation
1823
01:33:23.210 --> 01:33:26.470
and and more about being insulting and offensive toward the
1824
01:33:26.529 --> 01:33:30.590
personalities that he's targeting. So I thought really that was
1825
01:33:30.649 --> 01:33:36.239
probably what bothered me. I think at least it definitely
1826
01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:38.800
factored into what bothered me. And so I'll be honest
1827
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:44.600
about that fact. But beyond that, what I did value was,
1828
01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:48.470
first of all, the connection that Jeffrey Epstein had to
1829
01:33:48.850 --> 01:33:50.270
the comedy industry, right?
1830
01:33:50.329 --> 01:33:51.470
Just that alone.
1831
01:33:52.100 --> 01:33:57.500
Is really fascinating and worth understanding because at every level,
1832
01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:02.100
you have to imagine each and every industry is targeted
1833
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:11.380
for subversion and to clearly disrupt the natural order of
1834
01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:15.439
things in terms of acquiring assets within the industry, assets
1835
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:16.060
of prominence.
1836
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.000
That's just a part of the playbook.
1837
01:34:19.449 --> 01:34:19.649
Right.
1838
01:34:19.670 --> 01:34:23.119
So you see that happening in terms of the Epstein network,
1839
01:34:23.659 --> 01:34:27.739
because Epstein was cultivating relationships with stand up comedians as
1840
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:31.399
part of his post 2008 reputation rebuilding strategy.
1841
01:34:31.819 --> 01:34:34.079
Like that is hilarious to me.
1842
01:34:34.100 --> 01:34:36.220
And I was unaware of that fact as far as
1843
01:34:37.090 --> 01:34:41.109
being a priority of Epstein and his inner circle at
1844
01:34:41.149 --> 01:34:44.890
that time. Post 2008 was to rebuild and rebrand his
1845
01:34:44.949 --> 01:34:49.960
reputation through comedy. association with these various prominent figures in, in,
1846
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:53.020
you know, these entertainment, the entertainment industry at large, but
1847
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:58.079
the specifically comedians. And there was a, I think it
1848
01:34:58.140 --> 01:35:01.760
was a New York times piece. And this was based
1849
01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:03.859
entirely on the DOJ released emails.
1850
01:35:03.960 --> 01:35:04.180
Right.
1851
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:07.340
And, and, uh, it was before I pulled, cause I
1852
01:35:07.380 --> 01:35:12.039
pulled like three different, um, three different, at least three
1853
01:35:12.060 --> 01:35:15.739
different files from the Epstein files on the DOJ website,
1854
01:35:15.779 --> 01:35:19.220
just to kind of like fully verify the context and
1855
01:35:19.340 --> 01:35:24.000
attempt to, you know, obviously exhaust my due diligence as well.
1856
01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:30.840
And I found that he was hosting dinner parties with comics.
1857
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.600
We all know Chris Rock was among them, but then
1858
01:35:34.619 --> 01:35:38.770
you have David Brenner and Louis Black who's a big
1859
01:35:38.810 --> 01:35:40.810
fan of Woody Allen. Woody Allen was a major part
1860
01:35:40.850 --> 01:35:45.989
of this, but the attendance of comedian Michael Slayton was
1861
01:35:46.050 --> 01:35:50.479
interesting because he specifically claimed that Jeffrey loved to be
1862
01:35:50.539 --> 01:35:52.319
entertained by comics and.
1863
01:35:52.260 --> 01:35:54.180
Would do anything but ask the same.
1864
01:35:54.420 --> 01:35:57.199
Basically, he would do nothing when he was there except
1865
01:35:57.239 --> 01:36:02.710
for recycle the same question about, at least according to
1866
01:36:02.750 --> 01:36:05.409
Michael Slayton, he would just ask asked the same questions
1867
01:36:05.489 --> 01:36:07.550
over and over again about stand-up comedy because he was
1868
01:36:07.609 --> 01:36:10.569
obsessed with it or maybe he's just trying to you
1869
01:36:10.630 --> 01:36:15.630
know um i don't know just focus on something that
1870
01:36:15.710 --> 01:36:18.829
would appeal directly to them because that's their you know
1871
01:36:19.109 --> 01:36:23.569
clearly their their career path and in their focus who
1872
01:36:23.609 --> 01:36:27.060
knows but either way he seemed to be somewhat obsessed
1873
01:36:27.100 --> 01:36:31.939
with it now the emails show Epstein was seeking out
1874
01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:35.119
comedy connections in the same way in which he was
1875
01:36:35.180 --> 01:36:39.779
doing in other various industries as a networking vehicle and
1876
01:36:39.819 --> 01:36:43.199
so again it's like well of course that's exactly what.
1877
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.359
Epstein was known for and so this just fits the.
1878
01:36:46.300 --> 01:36:49.680
Bill right and that in terms of that now there
1879
01:36:49.739 --> 01:36:54.899
was this is crazy to me by the way Epstein
1880
01:36:55.010 --> 01:36:59.970
had a neighborly relationship with comedian Bill Cosby.
1881
01:37:00.750 --> 01:37:01.310
Did you know this?
1882
01:37:01.329 --> 01:37:04.470
I feel like I remember something in passing, but I didn't,
1883
01:37:04.569 --> 01:37:07.140
I didn't ever see much more about it. So yeah,
1884
01:37:07.300 --> 01:37:09.819
I guess I just never really got too high on
1885
01:37:09.859 --> 01:37:12.420
my radar, but I do. I do remember something in
1886
01:37:12.460 --> 01:37:13.939
passing about Cosby, but I.
1887
01:37:14.619 --> 01:37:17.960
Didn't, I've never, I don't think I've ever been introduced
1888
01:37:17.979 --> 01:37:19.180
to this connection until now.
1889
01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:23.210
I'm definitely not familiar with whatever, but I do. That
1890
01:37:23.270 --> 01:37:25.529
does sound like a familiar name that I do vaguely
1891
01:37:25.569 --> 01:37:28.260
recall coming up in the, in the, you know, the,
1892
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the blitzkrieg of all the Epstein stuff that was dropping. So, um,
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but like, so did Eminem, so did Jay-Z and there's
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so much stuff that you just kind of like, and
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you don't even look into. So I mean, hell, I
1896
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have a daily show and I still, so much of
1897
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that stuff I didn't look into. Like I've been, I've
1898
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done so many segments of the Epstein stuff and even
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still I've like, there's so much. So yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's never ending as far as that's concerned. I think
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it will, it will, um, the Epstein files will be,
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I mean, at least that, what's been made publicly available
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to us, I think they're, they're going to basically be
1905
01:38:02.260 --> 01:38:04.079
the gift that keeps on giving. I would think if,
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if you, anytime you want to reflect back on the
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Epstein files, you know, through a different lens or perspective.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
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Really, you can't even imagine what you you'll be exposed
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to and what you'll come to find. If you remember
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those apartments that were being used, right. That, that we
1912
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discussed in regard to, you know, these mind control apartments
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that were using these frequencies to effectively control an entire apartment.
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01:38:30.329 --> 01:38:34.060
complex of individuals who were among, they had apartments that
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were running this operation as the architects of this operation.
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It was fascinating stuff, but here's the connection to Bill Cosby,
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is basically they were neighbors. And so they had a
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relationship where even invitations to dinner parties, as far as
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from Epstein inviting Bill Cosby to dinner parties, with an
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interest in discussing his legal troubles.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, exactly.
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Sorry, I was laughing. This guy right here, Nick Mullen, 9985,
1924
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he's always cracking me up in the chat. Sorry, I
1925
01:39:10.550 --> 01:39:12.529
was just laughing. By the way, real quick, while I've
1926
01:39:12.590 --> 01:39:15.260
completely sidetracked things, I do want to point out this
1927
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is a fun podcast. I think this would be a
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01:39:16.970 --> 01:39:19.949
fun title suggestion right there for one of the subtitles.
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And for our little TIFF, it goes both ways. Slippery Slop.
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It's not really taking sides here either. It's Slippery Slop.
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That's what it is. Just throwing it out there. Good
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wordplay there.
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Sorry.
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I caught you reacting to me laughing. And I was, uh,
1935
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my bad. That's my fault. I was not, I want
1936
01:39:40.930 --> 01:39:42.890
to be honest. That wasn't laughing at something you said.
1937
01:39:42.909 --> 01:39:46.029
I was being sidetracked with ADHD, looking at the chat
1938
01:39:46.149 --> 01:39:48.689
and the Nick Mullen guy. He, uh, he really does.
1939
01:39:48.810 --> 01:39:51.159
He doesn't, he gives, he maybe is Dick Mullen. If
1940
01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:53.260
he's not Dick Mullen, he's really holding up the, uh,
1941
01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:55.899
the name. Well, I'm quite often cracking up with this shit.
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01:39:55.939 --> 01:40:00.020
So imagine Bill Cosby as a green goblin sink sleep.
1943
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There you go. But go ahead.
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Um, yeah, I just think that, what I had said is,
1945
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is really tippy, tippy top, slippery slop.
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Yeah.
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She even took it another level and it works there too.
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It does.
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Um, so I had just mentioned that obviously Epstein and
1950
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Bill Cosby had this working relationship.
1951
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This was during Cosby's legal troubles.
1952
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And so what I had said to you that I
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thought was, was absolutely absurd that most people are not
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aware of, at least that I can tell is that
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Epstein was inviting Bill Cosby to dinner parties and with
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specifically an interest in discussing.
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Bill Cosby's legal troubles.
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So that's the point I was trying to make is that,
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I mean, first of all, that's absurd, you know, just
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as far as like an extraordinary connection to another prolific abuser, right?
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At least.
1962
01:40:57.220 --> 01:41:02.039
It seems that way. So Epstein was very much interested
1963
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:05.510
in comedy, right? And so he had connections to these comedians,
1964
01:41:06.659 --> 01:41:10.880
And and Jeffrey was he had notable interest in comedy
1965
01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:14.600
and was known to attend events featuring prominent comedians. His
1966
01:41:14.659 --> 01:41:20.819
connections within the industry included interactions with with various like,
1967
01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:24.550
for example, there were a few notable comedians that were
1968
01:41:24.590 --> 01:41:28.189
mentioned in the files themselves, but he never actually personally met.
1969
01:41:28.229 --> 01:41:30.930
We have no evidence of that. And that specifically came
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01:41:31.329 --> 01:41:32.069
in the context of.
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01:41:32.090 --> 01:41:33.829
Like the Legion of Skanks are in there.
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Yeah. No doubt.
1973
01:41:35.770 --> 01:41:38.289
And I mean, so was Joe Rogan, which I did
1974
01:41:38.350 --> 01:41:40.810
find interesting as far as the context of Lawrence Krauss
1975
01:41:40.890 --> 01:41:42.130
and him going on.
1976
01:41:42.189 --> 01:41:44.250
And Epstein basically requested... To.
1977
01:41:44.210 --> 01:41:46.810
Be clear, with Allegiant Skaggs, I'm pretty sure it was
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01:41:46.850 --> 01:41:50.270
literally just like a poster that was shared to be like, oh,
1979
01:41:50.449 --> 01:41:53.409
what do you think of this? Or something. So, I mean,
1980
01:41:53.439 --> 01:41:55.560
this is when somebody says someone's in the Epstein files,
1981
01:41:55.579 --> 01:41:57.420
it doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot. But go on.
1982
01:41:57.859 --> 01:41:58.079
Right.
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01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:05.079
But it is interesting because it very much... what you
1984
01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:12.619
see here is essentially Whitney Cummings is referenced in the files, right?
1985
01:42:12.739 --> 01:42:15.550
And Epstein referred to her as one of his favorites
1986
01:42:15.699 --> 01:42:21.010
in the emails. And I think specifically he loved one
1987
01:42:21.029 --> 01:42:24.850
of her bits, which was overtly sexual, which I found interesting.
1988
01:42:24.890 --> 01:42:28.649
But before I forget, Jerry Seinfeld's name, right? That was
1989
01:42:28.710 --> 01:42:32.710
mentioned in that presentation. I appreciated that because Jerry Seinfeld uh,
1990
01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:36.840
his name was on the 2012 dinner invite list sent to, uh,
1991
01:42:37.659 --> 01:42:40.399
Peggy Siegel, who, who's this socialite.
1992
01:42:40.619 --> 01:42:40.840
Right.
1993
01:42:40.979 --> 01:42:42.600
And, and we don't have to surmise with him. He's
1994
01:42:42.640 --> 01:42:44.819
a certified kid fucker. So we don't even have to
1995
01:42:44.930 --> 01:42:47.529
jump to conclusions. He was, he was a proudly kind
1996
01:42:47.550 --> 01:42:51.010
of flaunted in the about, wasn't she like 16? Then
1997
01:42:51.029 --> 01:42:52.909
it was like his girlfriend or some shit.
1998
01:42:52.949 --> 01:42:55.189
Like she was like a 17 year old, I think
1999
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at the time.
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Yeah.
2001
01:42:57.210 --> 01:43:01.100
But, um, yeah, I mean, it's, and you remember, um,
2002
01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:04.439
he was on, wasn't it the Leno show? I can't
2003
01:43:04.460 --> 01:43:04.880
remember now.
2004
01:43:04.899 --> 01:43:06.560
I think it was the Leno show when I showed that,
2005
01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:11.699
that clip of, of Jerry Seinfeld sitting there with a
2006
01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:12.960
JFK junior.
2007
01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:13.739
Right.
2008
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:21.159
And they're discussing, um, they're discussing Monica Lewinsky's, uh, illumination
2009
01:43:21.220 --> 01:43:23.659
poem from when she was a young girl talking.
2010
01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:25.520
About being a slice of pizza. Yeah.
2011
01:43:25.539 --> 01:43:28.779
It was Jerry Seinfeld who was sitting there laughing as
2012
01:43:28.859 --> 01:43:29.899
if it was hilarious.
2013
01:43:29.970 --> 01:43:33.619
And, and, um, yeah, it was very strange.
2014
01:43:33.659 --> 01:43:35.939
It seems like there's much more to the skeletons in
2015
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:39.829
his closet, but, but either way, it turns out that
2016
01:43:40.670 --> 01:43:42.970
also included in the invite or as far as the
2017
01:43:43.010 --> 01:43:48.850
invitation to this 2012 dinner party, it was Clive Davis, Diddy, right?
2018
01:43:50.250 --> 01:43:53.069
That's a Diddy connection, man, directly, right? Clive Davis was
2019
01:43:53.109 --> 01:43:56.069
Diddy's freaking mentor, man. Like this, this is just a reality.
2020
01:43:56.569 --> 01:44:00.010
So he was included as well as Katie Couric, right?
2021
01:44:00.090 --> 01:44:04.119
And then, um, um, Really, there's no evidence, though, that
2022
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:07.979
Seinfeld actually attended or accepted that dinner invitation. But, you know,
2023
01:44:09.140 --> 01:44:12.520
it's hard not to imagine because there's more detail to
2024
01:44:12.859 --> 01:44:15.979
his connection to Epstein because it turns out separately there's
2025
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:20.460
another email from Ghislaine to Epstein that went viral asking
2026
01:44:20.500 --> 01:44:23.180
if she could organize for Jerry and Jessica Seinfeld to
2027
01:44:23.260 --> 01:44:27.260
visit the island for lemonade while they were sailing nearby.
2028
01:44:28.810 --> 01:44:34.800
This email, though, is... unverified in terms of authenticity. And
2029
01:44:35.220 --> 01:44:37.720
it is not even confirmed to have been in the
2030
01:44:37.779 --> 01:44:41.439
official DOJ files. So that is very important. And I'm
2031
01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:44.659
telling you, this applies to so many different out of
2032
01:44:44.729 --> 01:44:50.470
context declarations of guilt that have been tied directly into
2033
01:44:50.529 --> 01:44:53.909
the Epstein network and the files, the DOJ files specifically,
2034
01:44:54.529 --> 01:44:57.149
that I think we all should be very careful. You know,
2035
01:44:57.189 --> 01:44:59.590
just once again, it's like, beware of what you think
2036
01:44:59.649 --> 01:45:02.520
you know. you know, and especially in terms of the
2037
01:45:02.529 --> 01:45:05.340
strategic mind manipulation at play and how they want you
2038
01:45:05.420 --> 01:45:09.100
to effectively undermine your own credibility, they're going to set
2039
01:45:09.180 --> 01:45:13.260
up those proverbial measures, right, to derail your.
2040
01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:14.590
Objective pursuit of the truth.
2041
01:45:14.699 --> 01:45:18.710
So if it fits, doesn't mean the puzzle piece wasn't
2042
01:45:18.770 --> 01:45:25.050
entirely manufactured to, I think, deceptively, right, influence you in
2043
01:45:25.069 --> 01:45:25.770
the wrong direction.
2044
01:45:26.409 --> 01:45:26.970
That exists.
2045
01:45:27.010 --> 01:45:27.430
Yeah. Yeah.
2046
01:45:27.510 --> 01:45:29.289
As we said, don't outsource your thinking to any of
2047
01:45:29.329 --> 01:45:32.569
these people, as we always say, like there. I mean,
2048
01:45:32.989 --> 01:45:35.810
I did kind of dismissively tease Kurt Metzger kind of
2049
01:45:35.829 --> 01:45:37.789
had a weird freak out and he was implying that
2050
01:45:38.149 --> 01:45:41.149
this guy may be some Canadian rapper or some shit
2051
01:45:41.189 --> 01:45:43.359
and that. This is some sort of op from the
2052
01:45:43.380 --> 01:45:45.760
Canadian government because to try to put a tamper on
2053
01:45:45.819 --> 01:45:48.619
right wing populism or some shit. And you're like, you
2054
01:45:48.659 --> 01:45:51.890
know what, Kurt? Fucking maybe. I don't fucking know. But
2055
01:45:51.939 --> 01:45:53.800
like it's also like at the end of the day,
2056
01:45:53.829 --> 01:45:55.489
it's like, well, we can only deal with what's in
2057
01:45:55.550 --> 01:45:58.090
front of us. And I mean, we can use we
2058
01:45:58.130 --> 01:46:01.350
can use our own thinking and not outsource it and
2059
01:46:01.390 --> 01:46:03.689
try to, you know, in the most logical way, evaluate
2060
01:46:03.750 --> 01:46:06.600
the the information in front of us and go from there.
2061
01:46:06.989 --> 01:46:08.609
And but even then, you know, bear in mind, there
2062
01:46:08.630 --> 01:46:10.630
are shadow games going every which way. So you do
2063
01:46:10.689 --> 01:46:13.590
need to question even that what you think, you know.
2064
01:46:13.710 --> 01:46:16.810
So really, you know, it's question everything. Everything should just
2065
01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:20.899
be levels of certainty. We're not dealing in black and white. Although,
2066
01:46:20.920 --> 01:46:23.279
I mean, there are certain levels of where that bitch
2067
01:46:23.340 --> 01:46:27.109
gets like goddamn basically pitch black. and Joe Rogan being
2068
01:46:27.170 --> 01:46:30.310
compromised is one of those things, so, like, I don't really,
2069
01:46:30.369 --> 01:46:32.630
I mean, we're so far beyond the pale of, like,
2070
01:46:33.029 --> 01:46:34.409
I mean, I was pointing this out when he had
2071
01:46:34.470 --> 01:46:38.149
Representative Luna on shortly after one of the main drops,
2072
01:46:38.510 --> 01:46:40.710
he had Kash Patel on, and it's like, and then
2073
01:46:40.729 --> 01:46:42.449
we had the famous fucking drop, what am I supposed
2074
01:46:42.470 --> 01:46:44.970
to do, push back? Yeah, yeah, that's, like, I mean,
2075
01:46:45.010 --> 01:46:47.140
I get to some extent, you don't have to be uncomfortable, but, like,
2076
01:46:47.479 --> 01:46:49.539
there is a certain level of, like, okay, you're just
2077
01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:53.210
embarrassing yourself if you're not in any way responding or whatever,
2078
01:46:53.289 --> 01:46:55.010
then you got furthermore, I think there was another one,
2079
01:46:55.029 --> 01:46:56.869
I don't know anything, obviously Trump, which I think was
2080
01:46:56.890 --> 01:46:58.869
before that, but that was like on the campaign trail,
2081
01:46:58.890 --> 01:47:00.340
it was a little bit more like a, it was
2082
01:47:00.350 --> 01:47:01.939
a little bit different vibe, I can almost forgive him
2083
01:47:01.979 --> 01:47:03.680
more for that one, because it's more like, hey man,
2084
01:47:03.699 --> 01:47:05.600
you're coming in, what are you doing, like, we don't
2085
01:47:05.619 --> 01:47:08.359
really know what's going on at that point, but, I mean,
2086
01:47:08.420 --> 01:47:11.020
and then the like, the really, the fucking absolute, like,
2087
01:47:11.659 --> 01:47:13.840
I mean, I was saying the Luna one, like, this
2088
01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:17.390
is so beyond confirmation, it's like ridiculous, and then were
2089
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:22.779
like multiple other, like, crazy, ridiculous, like, blatant sweeps. And
2090
01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:24.550
then we get to the, the JD Vance one, which
2091
01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:28.449
is absolutely fucking insane, which is like literally shortly after
2092
01:47:28.489 --> 01:47:31.829
there had been credible major reporting that had gone out,
2093
01:47:31.890 --> 01:47:34.010
you know, with all sorts of supposedly all sorts of
2094
01:47:34.069 --> 01:47:39.010
high level administration sources in there. Uh, and essentially claiming, uh, that,
2095
01:47:39.029 --> 01:47:41.149
you know, a number of different things, there was some
2096
01:47:41.189 --> 01:47:43.699
like characterization of JD and what he's about in there,
2097
01:47:44.020 --> 01:47:45.539
which I feel like may have been a little bit
2098
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:48.020
of cooking the books for the future, but whatever. Uh,
2099
01:47:48.699 --> 01:47:51.729
but either way, it's, um, The idea there is that
2100
01:47:51.789 --> 01:47:53.930
essentially one of the main things that's revealed there is
2101
01:47:53.949 --> 01:47:56.550
they were planning on– in their planning on dealing with
2102
01:47:56.569 --> 01:48:00.189
the Epstein files in the Situation Room, no less, they
2103
01:48:00.260 --> 01:48:03.000
were– one of the things floated about was you're going
2104
01:48:03.020 --> 01:48:05.640
to get some– we need to do some PR. What
2105
01:48:05.779 --> 01:48:06.979
are we going to do? Oh, we can go on
2106
01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:08.979
Joe Rogan. And it was thrown out. It's like Joe
2107
01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:11.770
Rogan was a thing. It was initially thrown out. Oh,
2108
01:48:11.779 --> 01:48:13.989
we'll get Blanche on there. Apparently they'd already gone back
2109
01:48:14.029 --> 01:48:17.050
and forth with Joe. Joe said, no, I don't want Todd.
2110
01:48:17.069 --> 01:48:20.130
you know, give me somebody better, JD, we'll give you, okay,
2111
01:48:20.399 --> 01:48:21.800
and so that was like, okay, and that was where
2112
01:48:21.810 --> 01:48:23.739
we were left in the reporting, funny enough, shortly after
2113
01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:26.460
the reporting came out, what happened, JD Vance goes on fucking,
2114
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:29.899
goes on there, in the peak of his fucking Jesus
2115
01:48:29.979 --> 01:48:33.319
Grift book, or whatever the fuck, shortly after they've murdered
2116
01:48:33.420 --> 01:48:37.100
almost a couple hundred school children, and He did not
2117
01:48:37.199 --> 01:48:39.359
ask about that. He did mention sort of in passing.
2118
01:48:39.380 --> 01:48:41.500
Isn't that kind of crazy? This whole Iran war thing.
2119
01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:44.270
But so, like, in the peak of the war, after,
2120
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you know, no less, J.D. Vance just had a new
2121
01:48:46.189 --> 01:48:48.729
child to add to all of that. He comes in
2122
01:48:48.750 --> 01:48:51.649
to kind of watch for the fucking Iran war and
2123
01:48:51.670 --> 01:48:53.930
the Epstein file. And to even boot all of that
2124
01:48:54.149 --> 01:48:57.489
in the course of that thing. I forget the specific claims,
2125
01:48:57.520 --> 01:48:59.180
but there were multiple things that J.D.
2126
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Referenced.
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01:49:00.250 --> 01:49:05.069
About that reporting from previously, essentially confirming aspects of the reporting. And,
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01:49:05.260 --> 01:49:07.380
and Joe in no way picked up on that or
2129
01:49:07.500 --> 01:49:09.920
asked about it or anything. And I get it. It's
2130
01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:12.119
when you're dealing with absence of information, you're in a
2131
01:49:12.180 --> 01:49:15.720
far less stable place. If you're like, cause it is like,
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01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:18.319
it's kind of the gaps. Like we don't know for sure,
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01:49:18.699 --> 01:49:21.159
but it's just such a level of like, you're telling
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01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:23.520
me you're the fucking bet. This is supposedly the best
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01:49:23.600 --> 01:49:28.170
goddamn podcaster in the world. And like, Like, you can't
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01:49:28.210 --> 01:49:30.550
fucking be like, hey, how about that Manab shooting? Do
2137
01:49:31.069 --> 01:49:33.130
we have any sort of... Who did it? Do we
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01:49:33.170 --> 01:49:35.310
have any sort of, like... Because they still haven't accepted,
2139
01:49:35.449 --> 01:49:37.970
you know, any sort of fault for any of that,
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01:49:38.149 --> 01:49:44.340
despite the horrid things. They triple-tapped a children's school. Triple-tapped. So, like,
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01:49:44.350 --> 01:49:46.979
in the opening salvos of the Iran war. So, like,
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01:49:47.500 --> 01:49:49.319
I don't know. It's just so beyond the pale that
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01:49:49.340 --> 01:49:52.199
it's like, you know what? This whole, like, the... As
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01:49:52.420 --> 01:49:56.939
we're kind of getting the fervor and the... The stabbing
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01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:59.270
and the kind of, used to be like, fuck this
2146
01:49:59.310 --> 01:50:01.390
guy that came out of that. Like, I'm fully on
2147
01:50:01.430 --> 01:50:04.270
board with that. Like, Joe deserves that and more. He's
2148
01:50:04.310 --> 01:50:08.779
a grown man. And like, yeah, there is some level
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01:50:08.819 --> 01:50:10.600
of leeway people will give. Like, look at the great
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01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:12.939
things they've done. And there's so much true. But you
2151
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:15.020
know what? He's reaped the rewards of it. As a result,
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01:50:15.340 --> 01:50:17.659
he has gotten to the place that he is right now.
2153
01:50:18.409 --> 01:50:20.670
making millions and being the top dog in his fear
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01:50:20.789 --> 01:50:24.899
and he is currently essentially running cover for literal fucking
2155
01:50:24.979 --> 01:50:27.479
evil so fuck him and the horse he rode in
2156
01:50:27.619 --> 01:50:30.140
on i mean i hope i've been fucking death by
2157
01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:32.859
a thousand cut like sapuku if you had any fucking
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01:50:32.899 --> 01:50:37.670
honor like fuck joe rogan like for real like that's
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01:50:37.689 --> 01:50:39.369
where i am like i get it like i mean
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01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:42.239
I mean, I know like Sam's boys with him. And
2161
01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:44.829
so I don't have the relationship. If this, if me
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01:50:44.850 --> 01:50:46.729
and Joe had a different relationship, it'd be a different thing.
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01:50:46.750 --> 01:50:48.590
But me and Joe don't. And I'm just an outside
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01:50:48.649 --> 01:50:52.250
observer dealing in objective facts and noticing that he is
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01:50:52.329 --> 01:50:55.789
fucking actively sweeping. And it's just like, I mean, to
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01:50:56.010 --> 01:50:58.229
say otherwise, it's to deny the, the, the, like the
2167
01:50:58.289 --> 01:51:00.670
evidence of your ears and eyes. So he is completely
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01:51:00.710 --> 01:51:04.289
sweeping for evil and it's ridiculous. So that's where I'm
2169
01:51:04.350 --> 01:51:04.710
at on this.
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01:51:04.750 --> 01:51:08.449
So, well, there's the, yeah.
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01:51:08.529 --> 01:51:10.390
And you, have all the right in the world to
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01:51:10.430 --> 01:51:13.869
have that opinion obviously and i in no way will
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01:51:14.069 --> 01:51:14.689
uh and.
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01:51:14.649 --> 01:51:16.270
As i said i give no one shit for not
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01:51:16.310 --> 01:51:18.670
jumping in the fray and fucking being like you know
2176
01:51:18.710 --> 01:51:21.109
what i want to put it on record that like
2177
01:51:21.510 --> 01:51:23.550
he's you know that fuck him or whatever like i'm
2178
01:51:23.569 --> 01:51:25.800
not saying anyone should actively go either way and try
2179
01:51:25.810 --> 01:51:28.060
to bury their homie or whatever or someone who hooked
2180
01:51:28.069 --> 01:51:30.359
him up that would be some kind of weird duplicitous
2181
01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:33.670
behavior to Depending on the context. If you're like, I
2182
01:51:33.689 --> 01:51:35.630
don't know, he killed 12 people, I don't know what
2183
01:51:35.649 --> 01:51:38.439
the bodies are. Okay, well now we're talking about legitimate
2184
01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:42.409
fucking crazy crimes. But if you're just someone like, You're
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01:51:42.430 --> 01:51:45.149
just like, you know what? I also didn't always like
2186
01:51:45.170 --> 01:51:46.609
that guy or something. Yeah, you would be kind of like,
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01:51:46.710 --> 01:51:50.229
fuck this guy. What is he doing? I totally get...
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01:51:49.869 --> 01:51:51.710
I'm not faulting anyone for not jumping in. But if
2189
01:51:51.729 --> 01:51:54.409
you're jumping into the fray, and if you're one protecting
2190
01:51:54.449 --> 01:51:57.430
this person, yeah, it is kind of like, well, all right.
2191
01:51:57.590 --> 01:51:59.560
I don't know what to tell you. You are kind of...
2192
01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:01.260
You're actively sweeping for this guy. I get it. It's
2193
01:52:01.279 --> 01:52:03.979
your boy or whatever. But, well, fine. You put yourself
2194
01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:07.420
in that situation. So, I don't know.
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01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:11.619
Yeah, I honestly... I just think that.
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01:52:12.010 --> 01:52:15.529
we have so I do entirely agree with the concept
2197
01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:20.260
of like doing running sort of damage control and, and
2198
01:52:20.380 --> 01:52:24.180
at least providing, you know, false narrative cover for, for
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01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:28.140
at least optics wise PR wise for, for, for these
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01:52:28.220 --> 01:52:32.039
very prominent powerful figures that are clearly the face of
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01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:36.739
at least the permanent establishment as, as far as the public,
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01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:41.609
you know, not even just the public representatives. Clearly we're
2203
01:52:41.630 --> 01:52:43.810
talking Peter Thiel and things of that nature who are
2204
01:52:44.090 --> 01:52:46.170
the power players behind the scenes a little bit in
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01:52:46.210 --> 01:52:46.649
that sense.
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01:52:47.170 --> 01:52:49.310
And so it does apply to that as well.
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01:52:49.590 --> 01:52:53.840
I'm just saying like personally, I harbor much more like
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01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:59.859
emotional sort of like, you know, I would say I'm
2209
01:52:59.979 --> 01:53:04.039
far more impacted by, you know, the formidable evil that
2210
01:53:04.340 --> 01:53:07.550
exists in the world in terms of like, the specific
2211
01:53:07.630 --> 01:53:11.149
personalities that I know are, are perpetrators of that, of that,
2212
01:53:11.470 --> 01:53:14.979
that sort of sinister lifestyle. And so I can, but
2213
01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:18.420
I completely understand what you're saying as far as condemning
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01:53:18.520 --> 01:53:22.380
anyone who is running cover for that very, uh, formidable
2215
01:53:22.500 --> 01:53:24.640
evil that I'm, I'm, you know, mentioning.
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01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:27.489
And that's exactly what you said. And, and I entirely
2217
01:53:27.550 --> 01:53:28.109
agree with that.
2218
01:53:28.470 --> 01:53:32.310
And I will certainly say that just in terms of
2219
01:53:33.310 --> 01:53:36.310
Jeffrey Epstein attempting to arrange a meeting with Joe Rogan,
2220
01:53:36.680 --> 01:53:39.319
that's worth mentioning because I mean, my God, there's, there's
2221
01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:42.689
a reason this was happening in 2017.
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01:53:42.689 --> 01:53:43.789
Allegedly he refused.
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01:53:43.869 --> 01:53:44.069
Right.
2224
01:53:44.149 --> 01:53:47.729
And, and, but the point is that Rogan revealed this.
2225
01:53:48.510 --> 01:53:50.810
It was in that episode with Cheryl Hines, right. Where
2226
01:53:50.850 --> 01:53:52.510
he said that I mentioned earlier, I think it was
2227
01:53:52.550 --> 01:53:56.109
in February of this year when he even made that
2228
01:53:56.149 --> 01:53:59.399
statement that he is named in the Epstein file specifically
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01:53:59.770 --> 01:54:05.340
because he declined the invitation. But, and, and yeah, he said,
2230
01:54:05.869 --> 01:54:08.810
Somebody in the chat just said Rogan was good during COVID,
2231
01:54:08.850 --> 01:54:09.869
been kind of sus lately.
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01:54:10.050 --> 01:54:12.489
Yeah, absolutely. There's been an evolution, right?
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01:54:12.670 --> 01:54:15.710
And I also think that you have to keep in
2234
01:54:15.770 --> 01:54:19.310
mind like these personalities exist on the range of the
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01:54:19.390 --> 01:54:24.090
political spectrum. And so they have this type of, I think,
2236
01:54:24.170 --> 01:54:29.039
impactful influence in regard to certain ideological subgroups. And so
2237
01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:33.560
they'll be weaponized to very much, I think, influence those
2238
01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:37.779
very subgroups, right? That that apply directly to their political
2239
01:54:37.819 --> 01:54:41.159
subversion agenda at play. And so I think that matters
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01:54:41.239 --> 01:54:45.220
because they'll be activated or given the green light in
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01:54:45.260 --> 01:54:48.060
those moments where it's most formidable as far as the
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01:54:48.100 --> 01:54:51.279
narrative is concerned in the context of your ideology and
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01:54:51.300 --> 01:54:52.500
where you land on that spectrum.
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01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:56.420
Because they will be, I believe, sort.
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01:54:56.260 --> 01:55:01.689
Of, you know, flexed in that moment to deliberately influence
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01:55:01.729 --> 01:55:04.909
you in that sense, right? No matter where you fall,
2247
01:55:05.590 --> 01:55:08.829
on that political spectrum. But yeah, and the new Laurel
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01:55:08.890 --> 01:55:11.430
Canyon concept, I love that idea, right? Because it very
2249
01:55:11.470 --> 01:55:14.989
much is a part of this influencer industrial complex at large,
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01:55:15.050 --> 01:55:18.670
no doubt in my mind. But the request for his
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01:55:19.569 --> 01:55:24.369
attendance at this dinner party, it originated from this Lawrence Krauss,
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01:55:24.449 --> 01:55:28.430
this physicist, former guest on Rogan's show. And it was
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01:55:28.470 --> 01:55:34.079
September of 2017 when the email was basically This is
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01:55:34.420 --> 01:55:37.359
that was when the email was was obviously authored and
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01:55:37.380 --> 01:55:39.500
the correspondence took place in the U.S.
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01:55:39.520 --> 01:55:42.319
Department of Justice exposed this in the files.
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01:55:42.739 --> 01:55:46.359
And Epstein wrote to Krauss, right? I saw you did
2258
01:55:46.399 --> 01:55:49.140
the Joe Rogan show. Can you introduce me? I think
2259
01:55:49.180 --> 01:55:53.779
he's funny. This Krauss replied to Epstein that he would
2260
01:55:53.819 --> 01:55:56.579
reach out to Rogan, but later reported that Rogan, quote,
2261
01:55:56.640 --> 01:55:59.350
seems more timid than I would have thought and declined
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01:55:59.390 --> 01:56:04.050
to meet. So Rogan then obviously says he immediately rejected
2263
01:56:04.090 --> 01:56:06.829
the idea, saying it's not even a possibility that I
2264
01:56:06.850 --> 01:56:09.710
would have ever went, especially after I Googled him and
2265
01:56:09.750 --> 01:56:13.270
told the intermediary, bitch, are you high? What the fuck
2266
01:56:13.289 --> 01:56:16.840
are you talking about? He emphasized that he would only
2267
01:56:16.899 --> 01:56:19.520
have considered such a meeting if he were, quote, sucking
2268
01:56:19.720 --> 01:56:23.260
up to the rich and powerful, which he then claims
2269
01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:25.930
that obviously he was not to Cheryl Hines, which again
2270
01:56:25.989 --> 01:56:28.569
is just Interesting, right?
2271
01:56:28.890 --> 01:56:33.399
At least Cheryl Hines, the movie star wife of RFK Jr.
2272
01:56:33.640 --> 01:56:39.699
OK, Joe. Exactly. Which is so funny.
2273
01:56:40.159 --> 01:56:42.939
But but, you know, and obviously we all know his
2274
01:56:43.079 --> 01:56:47.100
his sinister sex diary that that ultimately led to the.
2275
01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:50.239
To the demise of his wife, who's suicided herself.
2276
01:56:50.279 --> 01:56:52.439
Whoopsies, or whoops, I think is what it was, whoops,
2277
01:56:52.720 --> 01:56:55.460
which I'm surprised he didn't weave that in, because he did, like,
2278
01:56:55.500 --> 01:56:57.920
kind of have this commentary on whoopsie, and then, like,
2279
01:56:57.979 --> 01:56:59.800
especially he could have, like, got a little jab in
2280
01:56:59.819 --> 01:57:02.560
there with RFK there, with whoops, you know, like, you know,
2281
01:57:02.579 --> 01:57:04.359
maybe drop a little of the, because there is that
2282
01:57:04.479 --> 01:57:08.279
one line where someone mentions something about, I forget her name,
2283
01:57:08.319 --> 01:57:11.340
but RFK's ex-wife dying or whatever, and he goes, whoops,
2284
01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:13.439
and it's kind of like, almost like an LOL.
2285
01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:19.590
I know. No, it was, I have, I could appreciate that.
2286
01:57:19.630 --> 01:57:21.689
You know, I think it was really just his personality
2287
01:57:21.729 --> 01:57:24.270
that I didn't appreciate, but I, I, I did find
2288
01:57:24.310 --> 01:57:27.529
that funny and, and it was, uh, but I have
2289
01:57:27.569 --> 01:57:30.479
to mention the Whitney Cummings connection because that, that clearly
2290
01:57:30.520 --> 01:57:33.380
was mentioned. And it's, there's even more to that because there,
2291
01:57:33.640 --> 01:57:36.720
I specifically went into the Epstein files and I know
2292
01:57:36.760 --> 01:57:38.180
we're getting a little bit long in the tooth.
2293
01:57:38.199 --> 01:57:39.079
Well, it's fine.
2294
01:57:39.380 --> 01:57:40.819
I have kitties to take care of. Just to let
2295
01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:43.119
you know, I do want to wrap to be very clear,
2296
01:57:43.180 --> 01:57:45.380
but I do want to hang out with the audience.
2297
01:57:45.399 --> 01:57:46.920
So I'm not rushing you. I want to hang out
2298
01:57:46.939 --> 01:57:48.899
in the post show. So if the patron is going
2299
01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:50.220
to hang out with you beautiful people in a minute,
2300
01:57:50.579 --> 01:57:51.859
but I got to stay up late anyways, cause I
2301
01:57:51.859 --> 01:57:54.359
have a kitty. So I'm a, it's almost makes more sense.
2302
01:57:54.399 --> 01:57:55.880
I just got a feeding in. I'm also may as
2303
01:57:55.899 --> 01:57:57.199
well just wait a couple hours and go to bed
2304
01:57:57.310 --> 01:57:59.390
late to get a feeding and then just sleep for
2305
01:57:59.409 --> 01:58:01.470
a very short period. So anyway, but you don't even
2306
01:58:01.489 --> 01:58:03.409
know the ins and outs and how the sausage is made,
2307
01:58:03.449 --> 01:58:05.590
how the kitty's fed. But either way, point being is
2308
01:58:05.630 --> 01:58:07.729
I'm staying up a little bit later than normal. I'm
2309
01:58:07.750 --> 01:58:10.310
just saying fuck sleep for today, but it is. certain
2310
01:58:10.350 --> 01:58:11.920
sense it's helping my sleep because it'll give me a
2311
01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:15.239
longer stretch but i'm just kind of whatever anyways so
2312
01:58:15.859 --> 01:58:21.260
so people should go yeah.
2313
01:58:20.260 --> 01:58:23.439
So so there is an article written in the new
2314
01:58:23.479 --> 01:58:26.439
york times it was published i believe it was march
2315
01:58:26.779 --> 01:58:29.930
of this year And the headline is, At Dinners Over
2316
01:58:29.970 --> 01:58:36.489
Jokes With Comedians, Epstein Honed His Networking. And the headline
2317
01:58:36.609 --> 01:58:39.069
has like a sub-headline that reads, In the years after
2318
01:58:39.109 --> 01:58:43.260
his 2008 conviction for soliciting prostitution, Jeffrey Epstein rebuilt his
2319
01:58:43.300 --> 01:58:46.739
reputation by hosting gatherings with leaders in all sorts of trades,
2320
01:58:47.199 --> 01:58:52.579
including comedy. And it's a fascinating read. I encourage everyone
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01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:54.140
to go and actually give it a full read.
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01:58:54.180 --> 01:58:58.260
It's not really... all that long. So it's worthwhile.
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01:58:58.350 --> 01:59:02.579
And, and, you know, Bobby Slayton, this is a veteran
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01:59:02.600 --> 01:59:07.159
comedian who very much, you know, was, was in, in
2325
01:59:07.739 --> 01:59:10.479
kind of consistent correspondence with Epstein, right. And he, he
2326
01:59:10.520 --> 01:59:15.750
was essentially helping with, with influencing other comedians to attend
2327
01:59:15.789 --> 01:59:18.010
some of the dinner parties as well. And, and so
2328
01:59:18.029 --> 01:59:20.310
you see in a lot of the correspondence where they're
2329
01:59:20.329 --> 01:59:24.409
having discussions and I mean, we have, you know, the
2330
01:59:24.470 --> 01:59:26.930
usual suspects who are attending these dinner parties. I mean,
2331
01:59:26.949 --> 01:59:31.520
it really, it's, it's, uh, uh, pretty overt, but, and
2332
01:59:31.529 --> 01:59:36.420
then there's another, there's one other, um, uh, publication as well.
2333
01:59:36.439 --> 01:59:40.020
I believe it was, uh, uh, I, I went ahead
2334
01:59:40.159 --> 01:59:44.079
and archived it in archive.is, but, but, uh, it talks
2335
01:59:44.140 --> 01:59:47.140
about this comedian called upstate New York city, uh, a
2336
01:59:47.199 --> 01:59:49.979
comedy hell, according to Epstein files. And it really just
2337
01:59:50.020 --> 01:59:53.619
goes into further detail about Bobby Slayton and his, his, uh,
2338
01:59:54.220 --> 01:59:57.159
a direct connection with text messages and emails too. I
2339
01:59:57.539 --> 02:00:01.039
think he appeared, Slayton's name appeared in more than 2,000 documents,
2340
02:00:01.279 --> 02:00:04.260
including correspondence thanking Epstein for letting him stay at a
2341
02:00:04.319 --> 02:00:06.760
New York City apartment while he was on tour. So
2342
02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:11.239
it shows the level of connection that these comedians technically
2343
02:00:11.279 --> 02:00:17.010
had with the Epstein network and with Epstein personally, that
2344
02:00:17.090 --> 02:00:23.890
he was legitimately allowing this comedian, Bobby Slayton, to stay
2345
02:00:23.949 --> 02:00:25.750
at his New York City apartment while he was on
2346
02:00:25.770 --> 02:00:29.890
a comedy tour. And so, again, I encourage everyone to
2347
02:00:29.909 --> 02:00:32.170
go and read both those articles because they do shed
2348
02:00:32.189 --> 02:00:35.220
a little bit more additional detail and light on this
2349
02:00:35.260 --> 02:00:41.479
strategy at play. Now, there was a specific reference in
2350
02:00:41.659 --> 02:00:45.970
the DOJ files of a correspondence between Philip Levin and
2351
02:00:45.989 --> 02:00:50.909
Ghislaine Maxwell. The subject line reads, this is a forward
2352
02:00:50.979 --> 02:00:52.140
new Korean commercial.
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02:00:52.189 --> 02:00:53.920
Make sure to watch it till the end.
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02:00:54.319 --> 02:01:00.039
Need speakers. Date, November 17th, 2001. And it says, it
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02:01:00.399 --> 02:01:03.279
was the last night at the comedy store. They're opening
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a new one in time for Christmas. I laughed so
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02:01:05.960 --> 02:01:08.159
hard I tipped myself off my chair as I was
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02:01:08.239 --> 02:01:12.289
rocking backwards. This is actually Ghislaine Maxwell speaking, right, to
2359
02:01:12.350 --> 02:01:15.329
Philip Levin. And I'll explain who Philip Levin truly is
2360
02:01:15.409 --> 02:01:18.470
after this. Because she says that, for one, she's admitting
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she was at the comedy store. She laughed so hard
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02:01:21.210 --> 02:01:25.310
that she tipped herself off her own chair as she's
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02:01:25.350 --> 02:01:27.550
rocking backwards. And then she says, I have plenty of
2364
02:01:27.609 --> 02:01:30.529
new material for my next dinner party, should the conversation
2365
02:01:30.649 --> 02:01:34.510
ever fail. I thought that was just, you know, the
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02:01:34.550 --> 02:01:37.989
context of it is very interesting. And again, that's within
2367
02:01:38.010 --> 02:01:41.289
the DOJ files on the website still to this day. Now,
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02:01:41.390 --> 02:01:46.020
Philip Levin, who that email correspondence between Ghislaine And this
2369
02:01:46.079 --> 02:01:49.159
individual named Philip Levin. So it turns out he's a
2370
02:01:49.260 --> 02:01:51.699
more prominent figure than you would than you would realize.
2371
02:01:52.520 --> 02:01:55.920
He's the former Miami Beach mayor from 2013 to 2017.
2372
02:01:55.920 --> 02:02:01.970
And then he became the the 2018 Florida gubernatorial candidate
2373
02:02:02.970 --> 02:02:06.750
who was referred even for criminal prosecution by the House
2374
02:02:06.810 --> 02:02:10.869
Oversight Committee following the direct allegations of sexual assault by
2375
02:02:10.930 --> 02:02:12.449
Jeffrey Epstein's former.
2376
02:02:12.189 --> 02:02:16.350
Assistant, Sarah Kellan. So the House Oversight.
2377
02:02:15.949 --> 02:02:18.970
Committee, chaired by James Comer at the time, sent a
2378
02:02:18.989 --> 02:02:21.729
letter to the Department of Justice in June of this
2379
02:02:21.789 --> 02:02:26.489
year asking to use all available tools to investigate Levin
2380
02:02:26.909 --> 02:02:32.390
and hairstylist Frederic Fekai, who apparently this referral stems from
2381
02:02:33.380 --> 02:02:37.159
Sarah Kellan, the former Epstein assistant. It stems from her
2382
02:02:37.220 --> 02:02:41.319
May 26 testimony where she alleged that Levin sexually assaulted
2383
02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:46.489
her in 2002. or 2003 while she was working for Epstein. And, um,
2384
02:02:46.789 --> 02:02:51.409
and she described this incident in St. Tropez, uh, in France, right?
2385
02:02:51.470 --> 02:02:54.390
So it was in France and where, where, uh, Levin
2386
02:02:54.409 --> 02:02:58.090
allegedly forced himself on her and sexually abused her. And
2387
02:02:58.130 --> 02:03:01.630
so that's who this is. Levin's connection to Epstein is
2388
02:03:01.729 --> 02:03:03.590
far more than you would ever imagine. Like his name
2389
02:03:03.649 --> 02:03:06.750
appears in over 600 documents. I think it was 2000
2390
02:03:06.750 --> 02:03:11.170
files in the DOJ's files and, and, uh, You know,
2391
02:03:11.210 --> 02:03:14.390
the emails were they they essentially revealed he referred to
2392
02:03:14.470 --> 02:03:17.250
Epstein as his his my friend. You know, that was
2393
02:03:17.510 --> 02:03:19.600
like how he referred to him and and a great
2394
02:03:19.649 --> 02:03:24.569
guy in multiple different, you know, contexts. And there was
2395
02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:29.020
one supportive message sent in 2010 after Epstein's 08 conviction.
2396
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:33.840
And Levin also had this close relationship with Ghislaine.
2397
02:03:33.899 --> 02:03:34.100
Right.
2398
02:03:34.180 --> 02:03:37.640
Which obviously they were the ones corresponding with that comedy
2399
02:03:37.680 --> 02:03:40.659
story email that I just read. And he would call
2400
02:03:40.680 --> 02:03:43.939
Ghislaine his very good friend as well. And it turns
2401
02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:47.159
out Levin, obviously, he comes out publicly and denies the
2402
02:03:47.180 --> 02:03:51.739
assault allegations using a spokesperson. He said he had a
2403
02:03:51.779 --> 02:03:54.859
brief intimate encounter with another consenting adult and that any
2404
02:03:54.939 --> 02:04:00.319
allegation suggesting otherwise is not true. But he also previously
2405
02:04:00.380 --> 02:04:02.399
claimed he only met Epstein a few times and never
2406
02:04:02.439 --> 02:04:05.930
conducted business with him, which seems to be the playbook
2407
02:04:05.989 --> 02:04:09.130
in terms of these very relevant perpetrators in terms of
2408
02:04:09.149 --> 02:04:14.109
the network, like, yeah, that's obviously damage control and attempted optics,
2409
02:04:14.149 --> 02:04:19.199
you know, neither Levin nor Fakai, the hairdresser, I believe who, uh,
2410
02:04:19.859 --> 02:04:24.060
that individual was stylist or something has been, uh, neither
2411
02:04:24.119 --> 02:04:26.399
of them have, have been formally charged with a crime, uh,
2412
02:04:27.300 --> 02:04:30.699
as far as we know at this point. And so
2413
02:04:31.810 --> 02:04:35.409
just to, you know, again, I mentioned those two articles.
2414
02:04:35.729 --> 02:04:37.930
Definitely encourage you guys to go check them out because
2415
02:04:38.210 --> 02:04:40.590
I don't think it's worth going over in detail at
2416
02:04:40.630 --> 02:04:42.430
this point. You know, it's just a little bit too,
2417
02:04:43.689 --> 02:04:46.029
you know, it's a little longer than I think we
2418
02:04:46.390 --> 02:04:48.090
just as far as the time that we.
2419
02:04:47.989 --> 02:04:49.069
Have to allot to it.
2420
02:04:49.109 --> 02:04:54.310
But there is something to understanding here. you know, this
2421
02:04:54.439 --> 02:04:58.279
very relevant strategy that was being utilized, right, by the
2422
02:04:58.359 --> 02:05:02.500
Epstein network in terms of, as I mentioned before, you
2423
02:05:02.539 --> 02:05:09.420
have this strange, you know, sort of tie-in to utilizing
2424
02:05:09.460 --> 02:05:13.159
the comedy industry and these various comedians for the rebrand
2425
02:05:13.199 --> 02:05:17.569
that he's seeking post, you know, a prosecution, which is
2426
02:05:17.609 --> 02:05:20.729
just once, of course, of course, that's how you would
2427
02:05:20.909 --> 02:05:25.529
attempt to influence, you know, The the the the just
2428
02:05:25.569 --> 02:05:30.000
the general public as far as their interpretation and and potential,
2429
02:05:31.119 --> 02:05:35.220
you know, concept of who Epstein truly was and the
2430
02:05:35.260 --> 02:05:37.000
network itself and how it was functioning.
2431
02:05:37.899 --> 02:05:40.449
But I got to drink some water, dude.
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02:05:41.029 --> 02:05:44.170
All right, Austin, do you want to kill it and
2433
02:05:44.189 --> 02:05:48.409
just go hang out with the page? Give your plugs,
2434
02:05:48.430 --> 02:05:49.449
and we'll get the fuck out of here.
2435
02:05:49.729 --> 02:05:50.949
Sounds good. I'm ready to go.
2436
02:05:51.229 --> 02:05:53.399
All that I have left is this one clip because
2437
02:05:53.439 --> 02:05:56.000
I pulled it. Might as well show it. It was
2438
02:05:56.060 --> 02:06:00.460
also mentioned in the presentation. I appreciate this because, yes, Bilderberg,
2439
02:06:00.739 --> 02:06:02.340
everyone should be aware of this by now.
2440
02:06:02.359 --> 02:06:08.409
Ooh. Speaking of Bilderberg events, I want to throw this
2441
02:06:08.489 --> 02:06:12.449
out in the ether one more time, which I throw
2442
02:06:12.470 --> 02:06:15.329
it out to my audience as well, which is very
2443
02:06:16.060 --> 02:06:19.899
quickly being about to get beaten out by Austin. So
2444
02:06:19.920 --> 02:06:21.960
big ups to you. I just noticed recently, like, shit,
2445
02:06:21.979 --> 02:06:24.909
you're like half a thousand away from me. over on
2446
02:06:24.930 --> 02:06:26.630
the YouTube platform, so big ups.
2447
02:06:26.729 --> 02:06:27.210
Oh, really?
2448
02:06:27.229 --> 02:06:27.369
Wow.
2449
02:06:27.550 --> 02:06:29.869
Yeah, I mean, all your views do better, so great.
2450
02:06:30.289 --> 02:06:32.439
Good for you. I'm glad to see that. You are
2451
02:06:32.520 --> 02:06:37.979
quickly closing in. I like seeing good people do big things.
2452
02:06:38.020 --> 02:06:40.579
I've said from the beginning, when we kind of started
2453
02:06:40.600 --> 02:06:43.140
doing shit together, part of the reason why I wanted
2454
02:06:43.159 --> 02:06:44.439
to do that is because I was like, look at
2455
02:06:44.479 --> 02:06:49.119
this motherfucker. What little connections and what little clout or whatever.
2456
02:06:49.159 --> 02:06:51.529
I'm trying to push that out there to get you
2457
02:06:51.550 --> 02:06:53.289
some eyes and get out there, and I'm glad that
2458
02:06:53.329 --> 02:06:58.770
it's become... That has paid off, so that's cool. But anyways,
2459
02:06:58.850 --> 02:07:00.289
it made me think about, before we get out of here,
2460
02:07:00.310 --> 02:07:02.029
I did want to throw that out there. We have,
2461
02:07:02.069 --> 02:07:05.470
between me, you, Jacob, we have been really playing around.
2462
02:07:06.029 --> 02:07:09.100
And really, I'm more just calling on you guys for branding.
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02:07:09.109 --> 02:07:12.680
You guys are good branding people. Be in the comments, chat, whatever.
2464
02:07:12.760 --> 02:07:14.720
Preferably comments, so we can come back to it later.
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02:07:15.140 --> 02:07:18.020
We would really like to put on some sort of event.
2466
02:07:18.840 --> 02:07:22.289
Maybe not quite Bilderberg, maybe like our... our dark or
2467
02:07:22.409 --> 02:07:25.800
our wholesome inverse of it. Uh, but we, I mean,
2468
02:07:25.819 --> 02:07:28.039
there is actually an event called Childerberg, so I can't
2469
02:07:28.079 --> 02:07:30.479
steal that branding. That would be cool. There is already
2470
02:07:30.520 --> 02:07:33.319
a Childerberg. There's already a bro grove. So we are
2471
02:07:33.340 --> 02:07:36.359
a little bit tight on like branding. And now so
2472
02:07:36.399 --> 02:07:38.359
far as the spirit of the matter, you know, for
2473
02:07:38.399 --> 02:07:41.310
what we want to do, I mean, obviously we're wanting
2474
02:07:41.350 --> 02:07:44.470
something more substantive. I mean, maybe like a minor funness
2475
02:07:44.489 --> 02:07:47.470
to it, but no focal point of comedy or whatever,
2476
02:07:47.489 --> 02:07:51.359
but obviously some levities, obviously, you know, Welcome, but we
2477
02:07:51.399 --> 02:07:54.060
would like to do substantive things like research stuff of
2478
02:07:54.119 --> 02:07:56.609
some sort, you know I don't know we could hell
2479
02:07:56.649 --> 02:07:59.149
theoretically in the future do something in vegas and do
2480
02:07:59.229 --> 02:08:01.729
like one of the events being on like bringing together
2481
02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:06.539
vegas shooting uh experts or whatever doing panels like that
2482
02:08:06.579 --> 02:08:07.720
but these are sort of things we'd like to do
2483
02:08:07.739 --> 02:08:09.619
but the big thing is like We're kind of at
2484
02:08:09.640 --> 02:08:12.180
an impasse for branding. I've been kind of kicking around.
2485
02:08:12.220 --> 02:08:13.880
I sent you– actually, I need to send you over
2486
02:08:13.920 --> 02:08:15.989
my little notes. But one I kind of came to,
2487
02:08:16.000 --> 02:08:17.699
I kind of liked, but I'm not like– I don't know.
2488
02:08:17.729 --> 02:08:20.149
I feel like maybe it's missing something. It's legit something
2489
02:08:20.170 --> 02:08:23.550
like Operation Phoenix. Like being– and like almost like, hey,
2490
02:08:23.649 --> 02:08:25.529
calling– it's like an inverse of something. If you understand
2491
02:08:25.569 --> 02:08:30.090
the symbolism of a phoenix, you know, rising from the ashes, rebirth, life, death,
2492
02:08:30.149 --> 02:08:32.810
you know, reawakening and stuff. And like some of the
2493
02:08:32.850 --> 02:08:36.859
themes we play with already dead, you know, death, they live,
2494
02:08:37.050 --> 02:08:39.489
you know, in some of the branding we have, you know, life.
2495
02:08:40.170 --> 02:08:42.109
You know, the whole theory of that is like, you know,
2496
02:08:42.390 --> 02:08:45.970
red pilling, awakening, whatever. So I don't know. I kind
2497
02:08:46.010 --> 02:08:48.430
of like the idea of reclaiming certain things, you know,
2498
02:08:48.489 --> 02:08:52.630
even in the same vein of Brograve, Childerberg, Operation Phoenix.
2499
02:08:53.300 --> 02:08:55.739
I mean, maybe we could call it Operation Penis. No,
2500
02:08:56.420 --> 02:08:58.600
obviously that's stupid. But I mean, hell, even if it
2501
02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:01.039
was just straightforward Operation Phoenix, I don't know. I mean,
2502
02:09:01.060 --> 02:09:02.659
maybe we just have to think about the branding or
2503
02:09:03.220 --> 02:09:05.279
even just something. I'm just throwing out to you guys, whatever.
2504
02:09:05.300 --> 02:09:07.720
This is just where my head's at. I definitely want
2505
02:09:07.739 --> 02:09:12.930
something more evocative of like, something substantive, something, uh, I
2506
02:09:12.970 --> 02:09:15.189
don't want it to come off as kooky. I don't
2507
02:09:15.210 --> 02:09:17.250
think you do either. I don't want it to. So
2508
02:09:17.329 --> 02:09:19.329
I don't know exactly branding. I'm more just throwing out
2509
02:09:19.350 --> 02:09:21.670
to you guys kind of at an impasse sort of,
2510
02:09:21.710 --> 02:09:24.039
there's some things I think we've kind of liked, but
2511
02:09:24.060 --> 02:09:25.500
this is something we'd like to do. And we were
2512
02:09:25.520 --> 02:09:27.359
thinking about it recently and it was like, and we
2513
02:09:27.380 --> 02:09:29.460
were like, Oh shit, we actually really do have the
2514
02:09:29.479 --> 02:09:32.819
building blocks for something like this. Um, and I guess
2515
02:09:32.859 --> 02:09:34.539
I was kind of like thinking about this stuff, all
2516
02:09:34.560 --> 02:09:36.000
the bro growth stuff when I was more in the,
2517
02:09:36.439 --> 02:09:38.289
you know, in the mix with all the tower gang stuff.
2518
02:09:38.329 --> 02:09:40.930
And I was thinking more locally about Florida, but I
2519
02:09:40.970 --> 02:09:42.970
kind of, you know, did the little bit of, I
2520
02:09:42.989 --> 02:09:45.789
don't know, locality bias. I forgot about my homie Austin
2521
02:09:45.810 --> 02:09:48.569
and the connections you've made and that location. I've always
2522
02:09:48.609 --> 02:09:50.510
kind of thought of us as like, you know, both
2523
02:09:50.590 --> 02:09:53.409
coasts sort of base whenever we do hopefully start doing
2524
02:09:53.470 --> 02:09:55.760
events and stuff. But for some reason, even despite that,
2525
02:09:55.800 --> 02:09:58.100
I kind of wasn't thinking about your situation. And you
2526
02:09:58.159 --> 02:10:00.399
are kind of perfectly situated to where we could probably
2527
02:10:00.460 --> 02:10:02.949
set up some sort of event in the really not
2528
02:10:03.010 --> 02:10:07.010
so far off future really. So I mean, I'm just
2529
02:10:07.050 --> 02:10:08.970
saying like we have the makings for it. And then,
2530
02:10:08.989 --> 02:10:11.090
you know, we easily, I think the only, you know,
2531
02:10:11.210 --> 02:10:13.170
obviously the first event would likely be a little bit
2532
02:10:13.189 --> 02:10:15.810
more meager, a little bit like lower production value, but
2533
02:10:16.130 --> 02:10:18.100
you build up. And I think we have made enough
2534
02:10:18.140 --> 02:10:20.800
connections and, you know, and I think we've kind of
2535
02:10:20.840 --> 02:10:22.359
built up the skills to where we could have do
2536
02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:25.739
something cool. We could have something fun. But I know
2537
02:10:26.020 --> 02:10:27.560
the biggest thing is like, you kind of need something
2538
02:10:27.579 --> 02:10:29.859
to build off of it, branding, even just for an idea. So,
2539
02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:32.779
I don't know. You guys are really smart audience. You
2540
02:10:32.800 --> 02:10:35.020
guys are really, so I think you guys are great
2541
02:10:35.039 --> 02:10:37.319
people to pick minds for, for this. So just throwing
2542
02:10:37.340 --> 02:10:39.279
that out. Also, Austin, you said this is a clip,
2543
02:10:39.380 --> 02:10:41.100
so I know you're, you're presenting it right now, but
2544
02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:42.840
I'm assuming we can probably do this as an outro, right?
2545
02:10:43.260 --> 02:10:44.840
So you want to do this as an outro or?
2546
02:10:44.899 --> 02:10:45.970
It's so short, it's not worth it.
2547
02:10:46.010 --> 02:10:46.550
Okay, nevermind then.
2548
02:10:46.829 --> 02:10:49.390
I just want to describe exactly, you know, who it
2549
02:10:49.449 --> 02:10:53.729
is because it's Luke Rutkowski from, you know, We Are Change, right?
2550
02:10:54.390 --> 02:10:56.930
At the time who actually performed this interview and got,
2551
02:10:57.449 --> 02:11:00.840
got sort of got, a gotcha question. And, you know,
2552
02:11:00.899 --> 02:11:03.520
for a quick moment, even though it really was just,
2553
02:11:04.020 --> 02:11:06.279
he got lucky enough that Peter Thiel was willing to,
2554
02:11:06.300 --> 02:11:09.760
to answer one single question is, is essentially what happened.
2555
02:11:10.260 --> 02:11:11.420
But I think I know this one, it is a
2556
02:11:11.460 --> 02:11:12.340
short clip.
2557
02:11:12.560 --> 02:11:13.500
Yeah, very short.
2558
02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:17.640
And it's really just him kind of, you know, first
2559
02:11:17.680 --> 02:11:20.260
of all here, let me pull up the actual video.
2560
02:11:20.279 --> 02:11:22.920
Cause that was just the, the article that it was
2561
02:11:22.979 --> 02:11:23.560
attached to.
2562
02:11:24.260 --> 02:11:28.460
But he, so this was in 2016, just for everyone who,
2563
02:11:29.270 --> 02:11:34.500
isn't aware that he had attended the Bilderberg conference in 2016.
2564
02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:42.729
And it's interesting because he is specifically there with, this
2565
02:11:42.819 --> 02:11:46.350
is interesting because apparently it was a month prior to
2566
02:11:46.369 --> 02:11:49.930
the meeting, right? As far as like, you have all
2567
02:11:49.970 --> 02:11:54.279
these strange connections in regard to Peter Thiel and the, the,
2568
02:11:54.439 --> 02:11:57.520
this media organization. Now, clearly we know the Gawker lawsuit
2569
02:11:57.560 --> 02:11:59.380
that he was attached to that seemed to have been
2570
02:11:59.420 --> 02:12:03.579
this kind of like display of, of his true intentions
2571
02:12:03.699 --> 02:12:07.760
behind like, right. The, the Gawker suit and everything attached
2572
02:12:07.819 --> 02:12:10.680
to what seemed to have been a deliberate takedown, which,
2573
02:12:11.119 --> 02:12:13.789
which I think at this point is overtly clear and
2574
02:12:13.869 --> 02:12:15.979
obvious that, that that was the intention behind it.
2575
02:12:16.449 --> 02:12:17.229
But, but still.
2576
02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:22.399
Peter Thiel consistently attends this conference, right? The Bilderberg meeting,
2577
02:12:22.439 --> 02:12:26.220
which is a very secretive meeting and I think is
2578
02:12:26.319 --> 02:12:30.720
where they choose essentially decide our fate, right? As far
2579
02:12:30.760 --> 02:12:34.710
as just the prevailing dystopian agenda in play here. And
2580
02:12:34.850 --> 02:12:42.649
he specifically is asked by Luke about libertarianism and being
2581
02:12:42.710 --> 02:12:46.239
synonymous with radical transparency is basically what he's asking, right?
2582
02:12:46.279 --> 02:12:49.159
And I found it interesting because of the way in
2583
02:12:49.260 --> 02:12:52.199
which Peter Thiel reacts in response to that question.
2584
02:12:52.899 --> 02:12:54.689
It's revealing as always, right?
2585
02:12:54.729 --> 02:12:59.850
As far as whenever they, as I said before, they
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02:12:59.909 --> 02:13:03.109
hang themselves by their own words. And this is another
2587
02:13:03.189 --> 02:13:05.550
one of those examples is essentially the point I'm making.
2588
02:13:05.609 --> 02:13:08.409
So this was specifically the quote.
2589
02:13:08.909 --> 02:13:11.260
Hey, Peter, how are you? Are you having a good day?
2590
02:13:13.039 --> 02:13:14.659
How's everything at Bilderberg?
2591
02:13:15.439 --> 02:13:15.680
It's good.
2592
02:13:16.529 --> 02:13:18.180
Can you tell us about... That's Sam Altman.
2593
02:13:19.100 --> 02:13:19.319
Right?
2594
02:13:19.340 --> 02:13:21.699
This right here? That's Sam Altman.
2595
02:13:21.720 --> 02:13:24.579
Yeah, that is him. Yeah, I think so. I mean, yeah, definitely.
2596
02:13:24.619 --> 02:13:25.699
That's Sam Altman, dude.
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02:13:25.720 --> 02:13:28.880
There's no way. That is not Sam Altman. Which, if
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02:13:28.939 --> 02:13:30.600
I remember some of my weird little teal digs, I
2599
02:13:30.619 --> 02:13:33.560
do vaguely recall he was kind of, you know, one
2600
02:13:33.600 --> 02:13:38.810
of his little minions. So this is... He was one
2601
02:13:38.829 --> 02:13:40.310
of his little boy toys, and he moved on to
2602
02:13:40.329 --> 02:13:40.770
some other boy.
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02:13:41.090 --> 02:13:41.369
It is.
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02:13:41.869 --> 02:13:43.310
While I'm being a little bit flippant here, it is
2605
02:13:43.510 --> 02:13:46.979
actually weirdly... these like kind of crazy young over and
2606
02:13:47.020 --> 02:13:48.460
over again. They kind of like, oh, look at these.
2607
02:13:48.479 --> 02:13:51.300
It's always this archetype of this like phenom tech guy
2608
02:13:51.319 --> 02:13:53.260
over and over again. And they all happen to be
2609
02:13:53.300 --> 02:13:56.689
like 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. And then
2610
02:13:57.090 --> 02:14:02.810
these old, I don't know, these old billionaires come in
2611
02:14:02.869 --> 02:14:05.229
and go, oh, wow, you've got all the goods there, fella.
2612
02:14:05.609 --> 02:14:07.970
So I don't know. Maybe really they do have the goods.
2613
02:14:08.050 --> 02:14:10.010
I'm kind of bewildered when it comes to tech stuff.
2614
02:14:10.149 --> 02:14:13.010
So like, I don't know. Maybe there is some magic
2615
02:14:13.050 --> 02:14:15.250
tech sauce they got that I'm just kind of dismissive
2616
02:14:15.329 --> 02:14:17.149
of because I just see it all as factory. But
2617
02:14:17.170 --> 02:14:19.770
it kind of just I think there might be some factory.
2618
02:14:21.949 --> 02:14:22.770
But go on.
2619
02:14:23.810 --> 02:14:26.779
I mean, I still I don't know all the details
2620
02:14:26.840 --> 02:14:30.199
in regard to the allegations made by Sam Altman's sister,
2621
02:14:30.260 --> 02:14:31.380
but I believe them.
2622
02:14:31.859 --> 02:14:35.539
Hey, Peter, how are you? Are you having a good day?
2623
02:14:37.340 --> 02:14:38.939
How's everything at Bilderberg?
2624
02:14:39.600 --> 02:14:39.800
Good.
2625
02:14:40.850 --> 02:14:44.270
Can you tell us about your libertarian values and beliefs?
2626
02:14:45.390 --> 02:14:48.569
I was really curious if it's able to be somehow
2627
02:14:48.789 --> 02:14:52.529
conjoined with some of the people you're meeting with, because.
2628
02:14:51.829 --> 02:14:53.949
There seems to kind of be a conflict with that.
2629
02:14:54.489 --> 02:14:57.590
I was wondering what you think about the philosophy and obviously,
2630
02:14:57.609 --> 02:14:59.770
you know, the meeting taking place.
2631
02:14:59.789 --> 02:15:01.520
We're just curious about what's happening.
2632
02:15:07.579 --> 02:15:07.859
Fuck.
2633
02:15:08.819 --> 02:15:09.439
I know.
2634
02:15:09.460 --> 02:15:10.880
I'll leave it at Let me just leave you with
2635
02:15:10.949 --> 02:15:12.100
one statement, and then that's it.
2636
02:15:12.100 --> 02:15:14.000
Okay? Okay, yeah.
2637
02:15:14.520 --> 02:15:18.079
I believe that it's always important to exchange views with people,
2638
02:15:18.899 --> 02:15:27.000
no matter what their perspectives are. I believe that we
2639
02:15:27.039 --> 02:15:28.550
have a lot of problems in our society, and we
2640
02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:32.069
need to be finding ways to talk to people. We
2641
02:15:32.090 --> 02:15:35.350
need to find ways to talk to people where not
2642
02:15:35.390 --> 02:15:37.329
everything is completely transparent.
2643
02:15:37.659 --> 02:15:38.020
What was that?
2644
02:15:38.039 --> 02:15:40.729
Libertarianism is not synonymous with radical transparency.
2645
02:15:41.329 --> 02:15:45.510
Whoa, wait, wait, what, Peter? That was my favorite part.
2646
02:15:45.529 --> 02:15:47.149
Just one more time. I want to hear him say
2647
02:15:47.170 --> 02:15:49.329
it one more time. with radical transparency.
2648
02:15:50.329 --> 02:15:51.350
Libertarianism is not.
2649
02:15:52.789 --> 02:15:53.949
I have to hear it one more time.
2650
02:15:54.090 --> 02:15:58.600
Where not everything is completely transparent. Libertarianism is not synonymous
2651
02:15:58.619 --> 02:16:02.380
with radical transparency. That's often an argument that the Stasi
2652
02:16:02.399 --> 02:16:05.680
would make in East Germany... where everything had to be
2653
02:16:05.720 --> 02:16:07.750
monitored by society.
2654
02:16:08.609 --> 02:16:15.430
Don't forget about Hitler, guys. It's just like what I'm doing.
2655
02:16:15.470 --> 02:16:17.710
Those poor little six million Jews.
2656
02:16:18.109 --> 02:16:21.119
That's what he said, man. That is so crazy. That
2657
02:16:21.159 --> 02:16:22.250
was really the crux of it.
2658
02:16:22.319 --> 02:16:25.520
I will say, in a philosophical sense, he is correct.
2659
02:16:25.600 --> 02:16:27.739
And honestly, it was kind of a gay, low-tier question
2660
02:16:27.779 --> 02:16:29.779
for Luke. But I do want to give ups to
2661
02:16:29.819 --> 02:16:31.729
Luke because he is one of the few people who
2662
02:16:31.770 --> 02:16:33.989
has gone up to these people and asked these questions.
2663
02:16:34.450 --> 02:16:36.190
I just think it was kind of like, I don't know, really,
2664
02:16:36.229 --> 02:16:39.170
there wasn't a better one. I mean, maybe, like, because, yeah,
2665
02:16:39.530 --> 02:16:43.670
there's nothing necessarily inherently wrong about, like, you know, not
2666
02:16:43.709 --> 02:16:46.040
necessarily wanting to put out on full display all of
2667
02:16:46.059 --> 02:16:49.420
your conversations with certain people. But, obviously, that's not necessarily
2668
02:16:49.459 --> 02:16:51.799
what's at play. It is sort of what's at play here,
2669
02:16:51.860 --> 02:16:55.459
but the idea of, like, this shadowy thing, like, it's like,
2670
02:16:55.500 --> 02:16:57.120
it's more the intrigue of, like, what the fuck are
2671
02:16:57.139 --> 02:17:00.120
you guys doing? Like, I get it. It doesn't necessarily mean,
2672
02:17:00.159 --> 02:17:02.819
there is, I guess, a way to understand this is totally...
2673
02:17:03.120 --> 02:17:05.620
Not weird at all, but I don't know. I think
2674
02:17:05.700 --> 02:17:07.950
most of us struggle to come away from this and
2675
02:17:07.969 --> 02:17:09.709
not be like, what the fuck are you guys talking about?
2676
02:17:10.569 --> 02:17:13.129
So I will say it's not a conflict of libertarianism.
2677
02:17:13.149 --> 02:17:15.569
That is a silly way to look at it. I
2678
02:17:15.590 --> 02:17:18.110
don't know. It's not really– you're kind of almost– if anything,
2679
02:17:18.129 --> 02:17:20.379
you're giving Peter Thiel kind of like a– you're almost
2680
02:17:20.420 --> 02:17:23.420
setting it up for him to perfectly spike it really, honestly.
2681
02:17:24.159 --> 02:17:26.659
Truly. But it was revealing, I felt.
2682
02:17:26.739 --> 02:17:27.319
You know what I mean?
2683
02:17:27.360 --> 02:17:31.940
Just as far as the prevailing mentality. that he possesses,
2684
02:17:32.020 --> 02:17:35.399
I think it's important to understand. And this is, he's
2685
02:17:35.459 --> 02:17:40.540
evoking the Stasi while he's in East Germany, attending a
2686
02:17:40.700 --> 02:17:44.569
secret fraternal organization of powerful influence, and they are deciding
2687
02:17:44.670 --> 02:17:48.510
our dystopian fate. I mean, it's like, you couldn't be
2688
02:17:48.610 --> 02:17:55.159
more of just a reflection on all that is disrupting
2689
02:17:55.399 --> 02:17:58.780
modern society. I mean, there's no better example than Peter
2690
02:17:58.799 --> 02:18:01.459
Thiel and his acolytes. So I very much do agree.
2691
02:18:02.819 --> 02:18:07.729
There's nothing more relevant in my mind as far as
2692
02:18:07.770 --> 02:18:12.709
the power paradigm is concerned. than this direct strange relationship
2693
02:18:12.829 --> 02:18:19.690
that is overtly disrupting, you know, the influential paradigm that
2694
02:18:19.729 --> 02:18:24.639
has been constructed that is this influencer industrial complex landscape
2695
02:18:24.680 --> 02:18:28.500
that is being kind of thrust upon us, you know,
2696
02:18:29.700 --> 02:18:33.159
without our consent whatsoever. And yet you see so many
2697
02:18:33.239 --> 02:18:35.579
of us falling into the preordained outcome and the trap
2698
02:18:35.620 --> 02:18:36.409
that has been laid.
2699
02:18:37.049 --> 02:18:38.850
That's the issue that I find, right?
2700
02:18:38.889 --> 02:18:43.250
It's like, we have to keep, man, trust no one
2701
02:18:43.709 --> 02:18:45.989
and keep your head on a swivel at all times.
2702
02:18:46.370 --> 02:18:52.059
Like just fundamentally embrace that as your foundation going forward and.
2703
02:18:52.000 --> 02:18:52.700
You'll be okay.
2704
02:18:53.020 --> 02:18:55.000
You know, it's like, I feel like you won't be
2705
02:18:55.079 --> 02:19:02.700
as easily misled into considering these more cartoonish concepts that
2706
02:19:02.840 --> 02:19:07.489
are only a derailment, a deliberate derailment of, I think,
2707
02:19:07.870 --> 02:19:11.209
the true psychological mentality you should embrace for, for the
2708
02:19:11.250 --> 02:19:14.610
greater good. And, and that is how you invert morality,
2709
02:19:15.280 --> 02:19:18.799
you know? And, and so it's, that's my, my, the
2710
02:19:18.879 --> 02:19:22.780
ultimate point I was hoping to make. And I have
2711
02:19:22.899 --> 02:19:25.620
no skin in the game other than I love Sam
2712
02:19:25.659 --> 02:19:28.760
Tripoli to death, to death. He's my brother, you know,
2713
02:19:28.940 --> 02:19:32.620
for him, you know, I, I'm very happy that he
2714
02:19:32.680 --> 02:19:36.440
wasn't included in this character assassination because I, it just,
2715
02:19:36.520 --> 02:19:39.239
you know, it would very much have bothered me even more,
2716
02:19:39.379 --> 02:19:41.299
I think, in a much more profound way.
2717
02:19:41.500 --> 02:19:43.620
And as I was trying to get at with Sam,
2718
02:19:43.639 --> 02:19:45.500
from the little bit, like, I don't watch every single
2719
02:19:45.540 --> 02:19:47.000
thing he does, so I don't know where he's at
2720
02:19:47.020 --> 02:19:49.680
in his commentary, but my general view is, like, when
2721
02:19:49.719 --> 02:19:52.280
it comes to this sort of stuff, he generally, like, yeah,
2722
02:19:52.319 --> 02:19:54.180
I'll give his opinion, like, he's my boy or whatever,
2723
02:19:54.239 --> 02:19:56.420
but I don't ever, I don't, I mean, I'm not
2724
02:19:56.489 --> 02:19:58.530
saying he's never done this, but I don't necessarily get
2725
02:19:58.590 --> 02:20:02.110
the impression that that he's been like, nope, he's totally
2726
02:20:02.129 --> 02:20:03.909
not a compromise, or he's kind of more like, I
2727
02:20:03.950 --> 02:20:05.149
only know what I only know.
2728
02:20:05.170 --> 02:20:06.530
He's my boy.
2729
02:20:06.549 --> 02:20:09.590
It's just kind of like that. And that's, you know what?
2730
02:20:09.930 --> 02:20:13.370
Perfectly respectable. Can't hold that against anybody. Yo, that was
2731
02:20:13.409 --> 02:20:16.590
my boy. We have history. I get it, those things
2732
02:20:16.610 --> 02:20:19.870
you're talking about, but I only know what I know,
2733
02:20:20.149 --> 02:20:22.979
and I don't know. What do you want from me?
2734
02:20:23.030 --> 02:20:26.420
And all that he knows is that Joe Rogan's been
2735
02:20:26.659 --> 02:20:30.770
personally extraordinarily kind to him has lived by the law
2736
02:20:30.799 --> 02:20:34.319
of abundance in terms of their relationship and, and consistently
2737
02:20:34.360 --> 02:20:37.860
still to this day, you know, they're, they're good friends. And,
2738
02:20:38.159 --> 02:20:40.959
and so I respect Sam so much and have nothing
2739
02:20:40.979 --> 02:20:43.780
but love for him. And, and you know, I personally,
2740
02:20:43.850 --> 02:20:48.530
I just, I just want us all to remind ourselves to,
2741
02:20:48.670 --> 02:20:52.090
to remain very skeptical. And as he says it in
2742
02:20:52.129 --> 02:20:57.090
karate stance and, and protect your own kind of, vulnerabilities
2743
02:20:57.170 --> 02:20:59.260
and be aware of that and address, you know, and
2744
02:20:59.299 --> 02:21:03.440
acknowledge that we all have these kind of, you know,
2745
02:21:03.479 --> 02:21:08.579
naive vulnerabilities that do exist in our psychological mindset. And
2746
02:21:09.059 --> 02:21:11.629
if we're not aware of that, it can be exploited
2747
02:21:11.670 --> 02:21:14.209
and leveraged against us. So you have to at the
2748
02:21:14.250 --> 02:21:17.370
very least be willing to, you know, objectively acknowledge your
2749
02:21:17.389 --> 02:21:20.969
shortcomings and character defects and grow from that. And because
2750
02:21:21.659 --> 02:21:24.239
it can be very easily weaponized against you. And so
2751
02:21:25.219 --> 02:21:27.280
It's the only thing that I really wanted to make
2752
02:21:27.379 --> 02:21:31.860
sure was kind of my ultimate emotional and philosophical conclusion
2753
02:21:31.899 --> 02:21:32.319
to it all.
2754
02:21:32.340 --> 02:21:36.760
All right, drop plugs. Like 20 minutes ago, you said, well,
2755
02:21:36.840 --> 02:21:38.739
I'm going to go pee. And we're like, well, we
2756
02:21:38.760 --> 02:21:40.860
could just do this real quick. And it's been 20 minutes.
2757
02:21:40.940 --> 02:21:43.360
So I know you're going to pee. We're trying to go.
2758
02:21:43.379 --> 02:21:45.079
I teased the patrons. I was going to hang out
2759
02:21:45.120 --> 02:21:47.889
with them. And you're taking away from the patrons right now, OK?
2760
02:21:48.409 --> 02:21:49.950
We're done. I'm sorry.
2761
02:21:50.049 --> 02:21:51.329
Where can people find your work, Adam?
2762
02:21:51.709 --> 02:21:51.930
Okay.
2763
02:21:52.069 --> 02:21:54.409
I just needed to say that last point because it
2764
02:21:54.489 --> 02:21:57.159
is crucial to me and I truly do hold it
2765
02:21:57.680 --> 02:22:01.799
extraordinarily close to the vest, you know? And, and so everybody,
2766
02:22:01.920 --> 02:22:04.500
you already know, you can, you can support me at
2767
02:22:04.520 --> 02:22:09.590
the underclass podcast. I mean, financially, if you have the means, please,
2768
02:22:09.629 --> 02:22:12.870
by all means, the Patreon is definitely the best place
2769
02:22:12.909 --> 02:22:15.989
for that. At least you have, you know, far more
2770
02:22:16.030 --> 02:22:19.030
incentives now than ever. I mean, I'm hoping to continue to,
2771
02:22:19.780 --> 02:22:23.440
you know, create more and more incentives for, for, you know, to, to,
2772
02:22:23.889 --> 02:22:27.510
to at least join the Patreon and, and appreciate the
2773
02:22:27.549 --> 02:22:31.209
paywalled content. And, and so definitely engage with that if,
2774
02:22:31.350 --> 02:22:34.569
if you can, but otherwise I'll be doing the underclass
2775
02:22:34.590 --> 02:22:36.770
stream of consciousness. I'm not going to do it until
2776
02:22:36.829 --> 02:22:39.139
Friday this week because I have too much going on.
2777
02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:41.139
I have an interview on Thursday and I'm just trying
2778
02:22:41.159 --> 02:22:43.440
to make sure I haven't been sleeping too much the
2779
02:22:43.479 --> 02:22:46.100
past few days. So I need, I need to get, yeah, my,
2780
02:22:46.200 --> 02:22:48.479
my cycles back in as far as my sleep cycle
2781
02:22:48.520 --> 02:22:52.100
and my, my, just as far as my, uh, appetite
2782
02:22:52.139 --> 02:22:53.899
as well. Like I have to start eating more, man.
2783
02:22:53.940 --> 02:22:58.000
I've eaten once today again. So it's like, I have
2784
02:22:58.069 --> 02:23:02.430
like a hyper obsessive personality and, and I think that
2785
02:23:03.709 --> 02:23:07.950
it overwhelmingly derails, uh, you know, my, just, just your
2786
02:23:07.989 --> 02:23:10.420
normal average lifestyle of just kind of doing what needs
2787
02:23:10.440 --> 02:23:11.600
to be done at certain times.
2788
02:23:11.639 --> 02:23:13.799
So I'll leave it at that. I love you guys
2789
02:23:13.819 --> 02:23:14.100
so much.
2790
02:23:14.139 --> 02:23:16.639
And Jose, jose you know how much i love you
2791
02:23:16.659 --> 02:23:19.299
brother i wasn't at all like personally targeting you when
2792
02:23:19.379 --> 02:23:22.680
whenever i was showing my frustration uh you know in
2793
02:23:22.809 --> 02:23:25.909
in any sort of critical analysis and and uh i
2794
02:23:25.930 --> 02:23:27.450
appreciate you more than you know brother.
2795
02:23:27.649 --> 02:23:29.510
I love you too man uh glad we had this
2796
02:23:29.610 --> 02:23:32.969
conversation because i didn't think it's worthwhile having and uh
2797
02:23:33.010 --> 02:23:34.450
you know kind of hashing out because there are sort
2798
02:23:34.489 --> 02:23:39.350
of different perspectives and So things worth wading into. But yeah,
2799
02:23:39.389 --> 02:23:40.889
with that, guys, if you want to support what I'm doing,
2800
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2804
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goes out on Tuesdays at 9 p.m. Eastern. Also, once again,
2815
02:24:20.430 --> 02:24:22.629
I do got to mention that cult schizo theater. I've been,
2816
02:24:22.690 --> 02:24:25.190
this has really been a wholesome experience for me or
2817
02:24:25.229 --> 02:24:26.989
not even a wholesome, just been enjoying it. And I'm
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looking forward to where this is going. I guess maybe
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I'm just kind of elated because it's like, I got
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to bring my tism to Austin.
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I loved it, man. I'll be honest.
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I had so much fun. I almost texted you and
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02:24:37.500 --> 02:24:40.899
told you how much I appreciated that. It was, it
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was a, it was a very refreshing change of pace.
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Yes.
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Right.
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And it's like weirdly all the shit we talk about.
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That's what I was trying to express. And that's what we,
2829
02:24:50.120 --> 02:24:52.500
we spent almost three hours explaining this where I think
2830
02:24:52.520 --> 02:24:54.979
you guys get, uh, it really is like if you
2831
02:24:55.020 --> 02:24:59.159
were looking for some sort of, I guess, vague or
2832
02:24:59.340 --> 02:25:02.420
general understanding of the inverse of what the elites do
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02:25:02.520 --> 02:25:05.579
and the, the pathway to sort of towards success. I
2834
02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:08.670
actually think it's a, that, that movie and kind of the,
2835
02:25:09.329 --> 02:25:11.629
the ideas behind it kind of lay out the template
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02:25:11.649 --> 02:25:13.750
for that in some, in some sort of way. And
2837
02:25:13.950 --> 02:25:15.879
in a certain way, we're kind of doing that, keeping
2838
02:25:15.920 --> 02:25:19.260
our head to the grindstone, trying to not get caught
2839
02:25:19.299 --> 02:25:21.940
up in the grift and more keep our head in
2840
02:25:21.959 --> 02:25:24.579
the books, our head in the substance. I know a
2841
02:25:24.579 --> 02:25:26.059
lot of people upset in the chat that we were
2842
02:25:26.399 --> 02:25:28.440
talking about Rogan and shit. Here I am talking about
2843
02:25:28.520 --> 02:25:31.159
substance for this whole episode. But there is substance to
2844
02:25:31.180 --> 02:25:33.360
be had there. I think this is worthwhile talking about,
2845
02:25:33.389 --> 02:25:37.209
that there is this dynamic that occurs, this parasocial dynamic
2846
02:25:37.229 --> 02:25:39.809
that happens in all different aspects, whether it be in
2847
02:25:39.829 --> 02:25:42.850
the influencers, the audience... Some of the people that tippy
2848
02:25:42.870 --> 02:25:45.950
top and how this plays out. And unfortunately, I think
2849
02:25:45.989 --> 02:25:48.370
certain people that Lord above us have used this to
2850
02:25:48.389 --> 02:25:51.030
their advantage. So anyways, I got those totally. I was
2851
02:25:51.049 --> 02:25:53.350
doing plugs. So, I mean, I think that was all
2852
02:25:53.389 --> 02:25:54.950
my plugs. I got to do my shout out for
2853
02:25:55.000 --> 02:25:57.399
my sponsors. Highest level. We'll get out of here. I
2854
02:25:57.420 --> 02:25:59.579
just couldn't help but mention that one more time. Really,
2855
02:25:59.639 --> 02:26:02.770
really enjoying that. Uh, but with that, uh, the highest
2856
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on my patrons, my sponsors, I give them a big
2857
02:26:04.819 --> 02:26:06.459
shout out as a thank you for their support. My
2858
02:26:06.500 --> 02:26:09.040
previous ghost and targeting at learn toad. Also that abrogate
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these at Z over ZK at underscore in the zeal.
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Tim tell John Klebel, a big fan of the show
2861
02:26:12.649 --> 02:26:16.239
tournament at Wayne tickets, one on cover kids, no free lunch, Jack, Mark, Vessi, Bill, Jacob,
2862
02:26:16.280 --> 02:26:18.399
one of our guys, the biblical energy pump podcast, and
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02:26:18.440 --> 02:26:21.079
John black, you beautiful bastard, but to go hang out
2864
02:26:21.100 --> 02:26:24.030
with you in the post show with that guys, we're
2865
02:26:24.049 --> 02:26:26.049
going to go get out of here. Love you all.
2866
02:26:26.430 --> 02:26:26.670
Bye.
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Bye.
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This is weird. That was an echo.