Alien Super Vortex Part 5

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Hello, fellow UFO heads. Great
to be with you once again on the
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Paranormal Report. Don't forget to click
on those worthwhile links in the description.
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Kamela is an airhead. So today
I thought would start the conversation discussing how
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UFO crash retrieval is the ultimate holy
grail of UFO research. Why do we
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call it the ultimate holy grail because
really the crash retrieval is what we are
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looking for, and the crash retrieval
includes the bodies, debris, and the
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craft itself. It's the physical evidence
that we're really looking for to move this
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field forward. Couple of quick announcements
here. The content of each case highlighted
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in this presentation has remained intact.
For the description of the original source number
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two, the identity of first hand
sources will be protected by Leonard string Fields
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original agreement with his military contacts.
The visual age used in this presentation are
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computer generated forensic composite illustrations and sketches
which originated from the specific details provided by
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Leonard sources. And these are the
sources that I used to put this together.
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Three star U S Air Force Generals
U S Air Force fighter pilots astronauts,
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commercial pilots, air traffic controllers,
neurosurgeons, pathologists, theoretical physicists and
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mathematicians. U S. Army officers, U S. Navy officers, military
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police, high level Pentagon officials,
top military brass scientists, and engineers who
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worked at Wright Patterson Air Force Base
and other government facilities. So, in
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other words, these are the caliber
of witnesses that you want on your team.
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These are the kind of people that
you want to have interviewed. Here.
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Couple of quick quotes. Number one, UFO crash Retrieval can't be real,
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because if they were, I would
have read about it in the local
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newspaper. That's the first one.
You know. There are not now,
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nor ever have been any extraterrestrial visitors
or equipment on Right Patterson Air Force Base.
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This is their own statement, official
U S. Air Force Press released
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July nineteen eighty. So I'm going
to come back. Oh yea, We'll
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see about that. Let's see if
we can get these guys. Let's see
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if we can present the evidence.
Here. I want to introduce to you
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our good friend UFO crash Retrieval expert
Leonard Stringfield. He is no longer with
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us. But he is the gentleman
that pioneered the trail of UFO crash retrieval.
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He coined the term UFO crash retrieval. He was born in nineteen twenty.
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He grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio. By the time he graduated from
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high school in nineteen thirty nine,
he had already memorized the entire dictionary.
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Another person you want on our team
here. He joined the military as soon
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as he heard about the attack on
pot Harbor on December seventh, nineteen forty
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one. After the war, he
was employed by a chemical company in Ohio
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and retired after thirty years. Leonard
wrote two books Inside Sourcer Post three to
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zero that was in nineteen fifty seven, Situation Read the UFO Siege that was
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in nineteen seventy seven. And what
we want to focus in on is this
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bullet item here, his lecture on
UFO crash retrieval at the nineteen seventy eight
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Muphant Symposium in Dayton, Ohio,
Cousden International Sensation. That's because this whole
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term about UFO crash retrieval was relatively
a new concept back then. Now that
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we're so many years later, we're
going to see if we can present an
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uneven stronger case here. He passed
away in nineteen ninety four and left us
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the legacy here. This is from
Cincinnati Enquirer, July nineteenth, nineteen ninety
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three. Author continued quest for truth
about UFOs. What I've collected has staggering
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implications for mankind. This would be
the biggest thing since Christ really, So
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that's kind of what we're dealing with
here now. UFO Crash Retrieval is the
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complete investigation status reports, all of
his status reports. This is a very
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interesting book because this is the Rosetta
stone for the crash retrieval cases. However,
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I want to highlight that there are
two problems with this book. For
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one, it's devoid of any drawings, illustrations, graphs, It's almost all
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text. And the other problem is
Perlena's original agreement the names of the witnesses
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had to be protected, and it's
understandable. So it's up to us to
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maintain an important part of our national
history. So here's the thing. Looking
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at all the crash retrieval cases within
his dictation notes at Luncan Airport and Cincinnati,
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and then within the status reports,
I counted one one hundred and nineteen
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cases. So if you went to
Vedas and you had a roulette wheel and
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one hundred and twenty spaces on it, and you put down one hundred and
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nineteen bets, you're going to win
almost every time. So it's one hundred
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and nineteen odds in our favor.
It's our favor, and all we need
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is one of these cases to be
authenticated and true. And the whole concept
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of UFO crash retrieval is not existing
completely falls apart, so the numbers are
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really with us here. I want
to make a quick other announcement is that
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everything presented here and more witnesses will
also be presented in Washington, d C.
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June tenth through the twelfth, and
then on the twelfth at the National
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Press Club with doctor Stephen Greer.
I want to give credit to my good
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friend Rudy Gardea, who did the
drawings for this to make these cases come
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alive. So first case here,
it's nineteen forty two. This is long
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before Roswell. This is a crash
retrieval case somewhere north of Georgia. Not
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even Leonard knew where this case was. Somewhere north of Georgia. This craft
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was about fifteen feet in diameter about
ten feet high. It had come down
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and hit the roof of the army
facility where it wasn't perhaps still there to
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day. There was a whole breach
on the side of the craft. This
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craft was divided into three sections.
The upper section had this interesting display panel
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that had button switches, dials and
leavers on it. The second section had
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a number of bar stools that were
sitting in back of a wraparound window.
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Third section on the bottom had an
interesting integrated trap door. And those were
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the three sections. Now there were
bodies recovered, four crew members. They
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were taken alive. They were about
five feet tall, large black eyes,
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and we see this motif repeated again
and again. Large head slit for a
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mouth, minute nose, oversized eyes. It's something that we see over and
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over again. So the reference for
this is page three hundred and nineteen from
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the Crusher Tribal Book by Leonard Stringfield
right Field, Dayton, Ohio. It
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had not become right patterns in air
force space yet it was still right Field,
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Dayton, Ohio. The source was
a private who worked in records management.
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This is page fifty nine by Clark
McLellan This is the cover of the
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book, so you can reference where
this came from. What this witness described
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was a fifteen foot diameter disc shaped
craft. It was about seven feet tall.
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It had about an eighteen inch flat
section wrapped around the outer circumference,
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and then these rectangular tight windows that
were also wrapped around. It had arrived
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in nineteen forty six by a flat
car from Arkansas all the way to right
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Field, Dayton, Ohio. So
we took this original sketch by the witness
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and I went ahead and did a
solar Works model and an AutoCAD rendering showing
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you what this thing looked like.
Now, there were no rivets, there
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were no scenes, there were no
flatthead fasteners. This thing was devoid of
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any flight controls. There was an
eighteen inch basically a central column that went
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from the center of the bottom of
the craft all the way up. And
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if you look here, I've got
this little red dot on the window that
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you can see here. This is
the attempted point of entry where they were
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trying to use diamond tip drill bits
to breach the hull of this craft.
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And that's something that comes up again
in these cases where they are desperately trying
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to breach the hull of these craft
using diamond tip drill bits. They use
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acetylene torches, they use lasers,
and in some cases they take the entire
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craft they dip it in a vat
of liquid nitrogen and try to get in
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that way. So you can see
they are desperately trying to get into these
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craft. Here's the first color rendering
that we did. This is by Joseph
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Raith. Got to give him credit, just to give you an idea of
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what this craft actually looks like.
This is again before Roswell. This was
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one of the first solid works rendering. And then as the story develops here,
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So this private went to right Field
Date in Ohio. He was met
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by his friend who was a guard
at the base at the time, and
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this guard said, hey, I
want to show you something. So he
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brought him to the far end and
there was this craft sitting on the ground
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on the pavement of the hangar,
and in the front of it there was
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a tool box and there was an
electric drill with a diamond tip drill.
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But he got there just in time
to see this. After about twenty minutes,
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they both got nervous and left the
facility, and that's from the primary
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our witness, and this is our
final rendering to give you an idea of
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what this may have looked like if
you were there at the time. And
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we'll move on here. Rightfield Date
in Ohio, nineteen forty six. This
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is by a man named Tex Barton. He was six years old at the
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time, and the reference for this
is page two hundred and forty two to
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page two hundred and forty three.
Now, his father was an electrical engineering
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working at right field date in Ohio, and he'd brought his son that day
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to the hanger complex, which I
believe was Hannah Complex number four at Wright
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Patterson Air Force Base. There is
an adjoining cafeteria to this hanger complex.
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And this little boy, he was
six years old at the time, he
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was speaking to a janitor right by
the doorway of where this leads into the
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hangar. And this janitor asked this
boy if he'd like a soda, and
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he went over to his father in
any s if he could have a soda
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from this man. The father agreed
to it. This gentleman gave the boy
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the soda, and as soon as
he did that, we'll do a sketch.
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Here this door opened up and this
little boy peered inside, and what
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did he see. He saw two
eighteen wheeler low boy flat their trailers.
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They had interesting things topped on top. There was also a disshaped craft there,
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and then he saw bodies on the
floor. So this was the first
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past drawing that we put together.
This was the second past that gives you
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an idea of what it looked like
inside the hangar. And then I'm going
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to go to the final rendering.
So this craft was twenty feet in diameter,
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It had tripod landing gear. There
were two somewhat in large seams wrapped
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around the outer circumference of the craft, and then three bodies kind of on
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structures on the bottom of it.
And you can see him in the back
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looking and it just must have been
an incredible sight for it just a young
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boy, and it stayed with him
his entire life, completely stayed with him.
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Here's the full color rendering of what
this may have looked like. So
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again from these witnesses, it appears
that we have this. So when you
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hear centers in congressmen and they say, well, we don't have any physical
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evidence, it's possible they might be
telling the truth because they don't have a
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need to know, or they don't
have a high enough security clearance. Next
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one for Pago's Indian Reservation west of
Globe, Arizona, not too far from
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the Superstition Mountains, and this is
page ninety three, KA ten and the
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witness was a US Navy during World
War II. Now they were looking for
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property in a jeep going across the
desert terrain, and they were challenged by
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two MPs that had carbides. I'll
go ahead to the next drawing here and
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you can see they were challenged and
these basically the MP said, I don't
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think you're supposed to be here now
while all this is going on, off
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to the left, another two hundred
feet off to the left is this thirty
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foot diameter disc shaped craft. It
had orbered in at about a forty degree
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angle. It had a dome on
top. There were two rings wrapped around
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the outer circumference, and then what
looked like indented windows on the side wrapped
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around the outer circumference. Interesting case. This is our full color rendering of
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what this may have looked like if
we were actually there. Next one White
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Sands missile Range July fourth, So
every one of these is pre Roswell.
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Now we're finally getting into the Roswell
time frame. Here July fourth, nineteen
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forty seven. This was a technical
sergeant U. S. Army Air Force,
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paid one hundred and ninety six.
Now this took place on the range
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at night and this large one hundred
to one hundred and fifty foot diameter disc
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shaped craft came down. And one
point I want to make is when they
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started the retrieval operation, this entire
scene was excruciatingly well lit. They had
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light uls, they had search lights
you can see in a joy here.
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They had military personnel with guida counters. They had also military photographers with still
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camera photographs and then motion picture film
reels as well. So this was absolutely
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documented one hundred percent. Here's the
full color rendering of what this craft looked
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like. So they also had people
in rubber suits crawling up on the rim
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of this as well. Interesting case. We'll move on here. This is
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UFO Crasher Treble nineteen forty seven,
seen in a warehouse at Berkeley, of
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all places. Albert Bruce Collins,
now deceased, was the witness. He
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worked in metallurgical engineer this is page
one hundred and ninety seven. So he
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was at the right place at the
right time when this eighteen wheeler tractor trailer
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low boy truck it backed into Bartley
University. He was there and saw this.
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So we'll go ahead and go to
the drawing here. What he ended
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up seeing was this thirty foot long
egg shaped craft. It had a whole
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breach on the side of it.
It looked like a cracked egg with the
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yolk inside. There was a three
foot diameter central core, and then on
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the front side of the central r
there was a composite panel. On the
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right side of the core, there
was another composite panel that wrapped around the
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outer circumference of this inner core.
And then if you look on the lower
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right on my side, you can
see that there was a hole breach on
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the side of the craft. So
it looks like this craft may have suffered
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an implosion, and there was shapnel
coming out of the bottom side of the
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craft itself. Here's our full color
rendering of what this looked like. And
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he was one of these cases where
he was at the right place at the
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right time and got to see this. Now, my question is does this
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craft this egg shaped craft represent a
single craft by itself or is it part
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of a much larger craft and this
is just the propulsion system that's in sid
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of it. I think we should
consider as well. Next one, this
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is in a carrot patch of all
places, in Selina's, California, July
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August nineteen forty seven, seen by
two nineteen year old workers. Now it
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had come down the night before the
morning of is when the foreman came to
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these two young boys and said,
hey, I think we got to take
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a look at something here. What
did this thing look like? Here's the
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original sketch. It was nine feet
across four feet tall at a flat section
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on the top, and then two
rows of indented windows sections wrapped around the
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outer circumference of the craft itself.
X marks the spot so you can see
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where this thing came down, not
too far from the major highway here.
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And then this was the first part
of what we put together on what this
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thing may have looked like. Again, this is only a nine foot and
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down or not a large craft.
Now, while all this is going on,
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these boys are watching this. Within
fifteen minutes of them getting there,
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one of them got up enough nerve
to kick the side of it, so
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we know that this is something they
would do. And fifteen minutes later the
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military arrived. They were told to
get away from the area. Immediately there
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was a six by troop transport.
There was a jeet there. This truck
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was pulling a trailer and the boys
saw the entire operation where they brought this
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on the trailer and moved it out
of here. So this is something we've
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heard about again and again. This
is our focal rendering of what this may
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have looked like if we were actually
there and could see it at the time.
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Next one see one Dash nineteen flying
boxcar Sierra Marda Velik, Mexico,
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prior to nineteen forty one. Now
I'm thinking this is in the nineteen forty
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eight time frame. The primary witness
was an engineer. He worked in highway
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construction. And this is paid thirty
two. This is a nine foot diameter
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dish shaped craft. Now how do
we know it was a nine foot diameter
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dish shaped craft? Well, by
default, if we look at the f
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cargo bay of AC one Dash nineteen
flying boxcar, we measured it to the
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inch. It's nine feet ten inches
across. So this craft really can't be
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any more than nine feet across because
you have to allow room on either side
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for clearance, so we're looking right
around nine foot diameter. Now, this
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craft came down and this highway construction
engineer he was asked by the United States
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military to aid in a retrieval operation. So here they are. They are
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in the retrieval operation. He also
said that bodies were recovered and when he
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went over to touch one of the
bodies, the skin came off on his
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fingers, so it was a little
bit of a gruesome sight, but that's
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what's reported in the actual report.
Here we've got the cargo bay. The
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Sea one Dash nineteen opened up loading
the craft inside the f cargo bay.
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And this is our full color rendering
of what it may have looked like if
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we were there, just trying to
maintain an important part of our national history.
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Here. Now here is the craft. Now you can see the general
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size. It's not a big craft
at all. Now. Naval Air Station
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Sunnyvale, California, nineteen fifty Hannah
I, this is a radar operator.
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Another case within the Stringfield collection.
This is page fifty seven. So this
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operator he went through a double doorway
into this large hangar which you can still
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go today. This is still something
that you can actually go in today.
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When he got inside, he was
shocked to see a massive flying saucer.
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He was challenged by the guard and
he left immediately. But when his mother
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was reached by Leonard Stringfield years later, now this radar operator, he died
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in a plane crash. But Leonard
did get in a call to his mother
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and he remembered that his son told
her quote, it was certainly no aircraft
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of ours. That's a direct quote
from the witness. And this is what
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we believe it looked like if you
take his original comments about one hundred feet
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in diameter, large craft dome on
top, wrap around windows on the outer
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circumference of the upper dome. Next
one classified materials library at an unknown US
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Air Force base. This is a
former military officer paged two hundred and twelve
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to page two hundred and thirteen.
So he had the correct security clearances to
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gain access to this classified materials library. And he pulled up on one of
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these drawers, and in the drawer
there were two things. A black and
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white glossy photograph about eight by ten, and there was a report about crash
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retrieval. So he saw the photograph, he read the report, and I
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want to take you inside this file
cabinet to show you what this may have
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looked like. This thing was about
about thirty six feet in diameter. It
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crashed in Farmington, New Mexico,
which is very interesting because Farmington plays a
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major role in our favorite research here
a few wephos. He also mentioned that
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there was a very small pencil sized
hole inside one of these windows, and
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somehow they figured out how to activate
an entryway door on the bottom of the
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crafted software. We want to look
at some of these quotes here within the
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report. Military officer had the correct
security clearance, which gave him access to
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a classified materials library. Reports seen
by Witness made reference to crashes so more
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than one, and that bodies were
recovered. In addition, diamond tip drillbits
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and acetlene torches were used to gain
access to the interior. Reference nineteen forty
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six craft a Gright Patterson Air Force
Base that we already discussed in the beginning
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here. Now number four is important
here. Eventually, Ignissians were able to
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gain access to the interior of the
craft by way of a small entry hatch.
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The report said referring to the door
that it was almost as if the
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material of the craft liquefied and then
solidified again. So that's something that we
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hear about again and again where the
craft bottom section of these craft have sort
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of light port holes or entry away
hatches that are so fully integrated into the
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bottom of the craft you could not
put a razor blade in there, and
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it's almost liquefied into the skin itself. Now we talked about Farmington. Here
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this is Albuquerque Journal March eighteenth,
nineteen fifty Hundreds at Farmington report large force
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of flying saucers. There were over
five hundred of these flying saucers. It's
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called the Farmington Ahmaga. Nothing quite
like it has happened since this time.
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People reported these craft making these ninety
degree right angle turns. They could go
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backwards. They were seen by hundreds
of witnesses. This is called the Farming
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Tanamada. That leads us to here. So this is the Cincinnati Enquirer,
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July twenty ninth, nineteen fifty two. So in a nutshell, there was
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a call that went out by the
Air Force to all their pilots too shoot
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these saucers down. So it says
shoot sorcers down. Jet pilots so ordered
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in twenty four hour air alert.
And it's newspaper clipping after newspaper clipping talking
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about our pilots trying to shoot these
things down. Here a couple more that's
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keeping twenty four hour alert for sorcers. Pilots ordered to down objects if they
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don't land on the saucer trail.
Pilots told shoot them down. Jets on
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twenty four hour alert to shoot down
saucer. So this is a commandment that
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actually went out. Here. These
are the aircraft that we're using these alleged
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shoot downs here F ninety four Star
Fire And if you want to see one
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of these up close, you can
go to the Pima Air Museum in Arizona.
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That's over to the left. Here
you can see it with the nose
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rocket sections all put together unintegrated.
After the right is the Air Force Museum
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in Dayton, Ohio with these rocket
flaps deployed. This would have been in
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a kind of an intercept type scenario. This is what it may have looked
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like during one of these intercepts.
Now, how do we prove that any
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of this is real? I want
to hit you with this quote. This
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is from a letter to Leonard Stringfield
from Mildred Bathsell, dated October two,
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nineteen seventy nine, and here she
writes to Leonard, I heard you speak
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at the Muffin Symposium in Dayton last
year, and I am interested in your
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research on matrivals of the third kind. I gave a talk at a local
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library last week, and in the
discussion period following, a fellow told me
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that when he was a gunner in
the he had emptied his guns on a
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UFO and had taken pictures with his
gun camera that clearly showed the shells exploding
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against the side of the craft.
He said the camera was taken off the
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wing of his plane when it landed
and the pictures developed. At two a
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m. A couple of military policemen
came and got him out of bed and
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took him to the base auditorium.
They ran the seventeen seconds of movie of
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the UFO over and over and questioned
him and two other crew members until ten
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a m. He was warned never
to tell anyone what had happened. He
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said he had a wife and family, a good job, and a lot
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to lose. He seemed afraid of
the Cia and wouldn't even give me his
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name. So this is a case
where one of these pilots unloaded an entire
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magazine of shells on this craft.
It hit the craft and they got it
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on a motion picture. They got
it on gun camera footage. This is
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something that I am sure you can
bet your last dollar on that. The
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United States government probably at the Pentagon, Andrew's Air Force Base, right Patterson
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Air Force Base, Andrew's Air Force
Base. You know, they have a
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giant warehouse full of these films,
and they don't have the operate on a
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no single point failure type operation where
they don't put all their eggs in one
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basket. These assets would be deployed
at different locations so that they could preserve
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this history. Next one Pentagon,
nineteen fifty two. This was an office
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worker at the Pentagon and she somehow
by accident she bumped through these double doors
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into this off limits room. And
when she got in there, it was
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very dark, it was very dim, there were boxes around, it was
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moldy and everything. She turned to
this side and what did she see?
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She see a quote pickle alien in
a large glass jar. Within five seconds,
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she felt this hand on her shoulder, and it was an MP telling
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her too get out of there immediately. She had to sign papers not to
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talk about it. But Leonard did
get in a call to her hand.
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She did see this. So this
is another case where a witness was a
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witness to a very interesting scenario.
Here. Did they have these things at
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the Pentagon? Did they have these
at the bottom of the Capitol in Washington,
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d C. This is what the
witnesses are telling us here, Now,
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thought Polk. This is Camp Polk, Louisiana, Summer nineteen fifty three,
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Private in the Army kse A one
page eighty. Now when this came
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down, I'm going to give you
the map here. This shows you exactly
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what the scene looked like. This
craft was an egg shaped craft. It
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was thirty feet across. It had
a fin wrapped around the outer portion of
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the craft that was still rotating.
When the military got there, the ground
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in the local area was parched and
still very hot at the time. They
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had an ambulance truck at the scene. One jeep was there. There was
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a body that was carried out on
a stretcher, and then there were three
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other beings that walked out of the
side of this craft from a doorway.
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The primary eyewitness said that these beings, they were about three and a half
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feet tall. They had an oversized
head, oversized eyes, slit for a
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mouth, minute nose. They looked
like they were wearing mittens, and they
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had a one piece tight fit in
flight suit with a helmet on. They
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had no knee joined, so they
had this very stiff movement when they were
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walking across there. That from the
primary eyewitness. Now I want to take
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you to the scene in color so
we can kind of get an idea of
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what this may have looked like.
Now, so here you see the retrieval
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operation. We've got the ambulance in
place. We're beginning to usher these beings
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outside the craft. Now Here they
are with the helmets. And this is
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from these military witnesses that which are
telling us this high caliber military witnesses.
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Again, this is a different shot. Now I want to zoom in here
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give you an idea of what this
may have looked. Can you imagine being
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here seeing this with your own eyes
first hand, with first hand experience,
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right, Patterson Air Force Base,
nineteen fifty three. This is an Army
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Reserve Warrant officer. I do have
his name. We do have his name
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on file page fifteen, abstract number
eight. Now, this warrant officer,
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this is nineteen fifty three. He
was at the right place at the right
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time when a DC seven basically taxed
into the tarmac. And this is at
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night possibly right Patterson Air Force Base
number four is the hanger location. This
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could have been where it actually took
place. So this four engine DC seven,
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it taxes up into the hanger very
similar to what you see here.
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The hanger bay doors closed and then
on the aft left port fuselage side,
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there's a cargo bay door that opened
up and there was a forklift started offloading
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these wooden crates. There were five
wooden crates offloaded, the ones on top.
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The three crates on top had their
lids lifted off. And this warrant
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officer was standing about ten feet away
from these wooden crates and he peered over
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and looked inside these crates. I
want to give you an idea of what
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this looked like. He saw three
small bodies, very small, three and
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a half maybe four feet tall,
slightly oversized head. They were wearing a
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one piece type fit in flight suit. They were also suspended off the bottom
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of these crates with a netting that
protected it from the dry ice below,
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so they were trying to protect it
from freezer burn. He also heard that
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they were offloading debris from the crash
retrieval that this thing actually came from.
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Now, I want to take you
to the full color illustration that gives you
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an idea of what it may have
looked like if you were warrant officer and
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could actually see these bodies here top
view looking down. So we've got the
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bodies, we've got the craft,
we've got the debris. Dutton Montane in
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nineteen fifty three Cecil Timey was a
civilian. He is the primary eye witness
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on this case. This is a
bizarre case, Page sixteen from Leonard's book.
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So this gentleman is driving down the
road in a pickup truck. There's
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oncoming traffic in the opposite direction.
He looks up. He sees about a
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three hundred foot long cigar shaped craft
tip up at about a forty five degree
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angle. There was smoke and fire
belching off the backside of this thing.
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These balls of fire were coming down
on the roaded night in the exhaust stacks
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of the cars going in the opposite
direction. They actually caught them on fire.
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So I'm going to go to the
drawing here and you can see him
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driving in a direction with the cars
going in the opposite direction. Now he
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is astounded by what he's seeing here. He goes about another three miles down
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the road to a bar and tells
the bar owner about all of this.
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He files a report. The bar
owner said that when he walked in,
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he smelled light lightning. Very strange
description. Now, about twenty minutes later,
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a police officer also came into the
bar and he filed a report,
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and something happened because the bar owner
told this police officer about the witness who
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just came in prior to him.
So when the primary eyewitness went a home
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that night, he got a call
from a general which you see on the
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upper right here, and this general
said basically, I want to see you.
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So he was told to go to
the base the next morning. And
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this is the base that he went
to. That was his Great Falls Air
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Force Base, later Marnstrom Air Force
Base, and i'll go back one here.
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00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.079
So he was reprimanded, he was
told never to speak about this.
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He had to sign multiple copies of
NDA disclosures. Never to talk about this
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00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.839
now as his leaving the facility and
his being ushered out of the facility,
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he sees too big strong military policemen
that had these big sacks on their shoulder,
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and one guy trips and this bag
falls off, and he said that
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00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.839
what looked like body parts inside this
bag that he wasn't sure, but it
415
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.839
looked like some type of body parts
or could be e t body. He
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00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.079
wasn't sure, but it did appear
to be some type of body parts within
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00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:36.480
this bag here. Now, this
is not an isolated incident because in Sara
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Pallo, Argentina, December seventh,
nineteen fifty four, almost the identical situation
419
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.119
took place. There was this long
cigar shaped craft. It had fire and
420
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.960
smoke belching off the side of it. It was tipped up at about a
421
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.039
twenty degree angle. There was an
iris on the bottom of it where three
422
00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.440
disc shaped craft came out. One
went northbound, went southbound, the other
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went more toward the front of the
craft. So we see that there is
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a legacy, there is a history
of these type craft, these type configurations,
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00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.800
and this is our color illustration of
what that may have actually looked like.
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00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.719
Now. Walker Air Force Base,
New Mexico, April twelfth, nineteen
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fifty four. This used to be
Roswell Army Airfield five hundred and ninth Bomb
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00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.159
Group, so we're talking about the
same location here. This is a gentleman
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who was in the Air Force between
nineteen fifty four to nineteen fifty five,
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00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.159
page eighty two. So he was
playing ping pong at the time and a
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00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:43.320
RUSS alert came in. He was
a photographer and he was told to board
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00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:49.719
a Sikorski H nineteen helicopter immediately,
and I'm talking immediately. So he got
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00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:54.480
into this helicopter, they took off. They headed northbound from Roswell about ten
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00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.760
minutes. Then they made a left
hand turn, now heading northwest for about
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00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:04.400
any another ten minutes. This was
at night, and when they got to
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00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.719
the scene, it was incredible and
I'm going to show you what this actually
437
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:13.239
looked like. They had a spotlight
from the bottom of the helicopter shining down
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00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:17.239
on about a fifty foot diameter disc
shaped craft that had lights revolving around the
439
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:22.480
outer circumference, tipped up at about
a forty degree angle. There was a
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00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.559
dome on the craft. He also
could see and you can see him with
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00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:32.079
the cargo bay door open. He's
outside looking down taking photographs of this entire
442
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:37.519
scene. He said that he could
see four bodies very near to the vicinity
443
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.320
of the craft itself, and he
said that he saw military vehicles rushing toward
444
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.880
the scene with all their lights on. They eventually land a helicopter about one
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00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:52.480
hundred feet away from the craft itself. He gets out of the helicopter and
446
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.119
then he discovers that there's two more
bodies inside, for a grand total of
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six bodies. Nineteen fifty three nineteen
fifty one full time frame. Here.
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This is the full color illustration of
what it may have looked like. So
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00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:10.760
now we're looking at six seven eight
nine materrievals. The body count is starting
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00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:16.639
to get up as getting more difficult
to hide all this classified information. Now,
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00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:21.639
we also want to talk about the
Other Roswell, not just the one
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00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:27.039
in New Mexico, but there was
one across the Texas Mexican border spring nineteen
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00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.519
fifty five, across the Texas Mexican
border south of del Ria, Texas.
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00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:36.000
And this is from the book The
Other Rosswell by New Torres and my good
455
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:40.480
friend Reuben, who really get the
credit for this and so we've got a
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00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:46.000
number of B forty seven Bobbers heading
westbound over South Texas. They were basically
457
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:51.639
escorted by four F eighty six Saber
jets, and all of a sudden,
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00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:57.159
this disshaped craft comes right by their
flight path and then crashes across the Rio
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00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:02.159
Grande River. One of these F
eight six sabers breaks formation. He flies
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00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:07.840
over the scene, sees all this. He lands at Carswell Air Force Base,
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00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:13.159
gets out of his F eighty six, He drives to Corsica. He
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00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.400
then board a two seat tandem Ranca, which is a tail dragger, and
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00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.599
he flies from Corsica all the way
back to the crash scene. And this
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00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.679
is what it looked like when he
got there. The Mexican generals got there
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00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:30.039
before the American military got He was
like the first on scene. So you
466
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:35.760
can see they had a true transport. There was a jeep there. This
467
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.400
thing was about twenty five feet in
diameter. The dome had popped off,
468
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:44.199
you see in the fall ground here
to the Iranka. He was with a
469
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:49.000
friend, so there were two eyewitness
to this. And then you can see
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00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.920
these Mexican soldiers who were looking over
the debris. A very interesting statement by
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00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.239
the primary eyewitness. He said that
as it was getting later in the evening,
472
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.000
it started getting colder, and these
soldiers were taking blankets from the true
473
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.639
transport. They were putting the blankets
over the debris, which was still hot,
474
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:12.039
and then taking the blankets off the
debris and putting them on their bodies
475
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:17.199
to warm themselves. I just thought
that was such an interesting point. Why
476
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:23.199
would anyone make up that particular point? Very interesting? Now. He also
477
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.599
said that there were four mangled bodies
inside. I don't want to get too
478
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:34.159
graphic here, but the way he
described it, quote arms look like drumsticks.
479
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:38.480
This is from pilot Robert Willingham.
He was there, he saw it.
480
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:43.199
So I want to give you the
blow up of the full color illustration
481
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.920
of what this scene may have looked
like if we were there. And then
482
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:52.719
take a look inside the craft itself
looking something like this, so we can
483
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:58.199
see they've retrieved these e T craft
itself. Now write Patterson Air forour Space,
484
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.920
nineteen fifty five. This is Missus
G and she worked in the Foreign
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00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:09.000
Materials division at Wright Patterson Air Force
Base. This is page seventeen, and
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00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.880
she had a very interesting job.
I want to take you to the next
487
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.360
slide. Here, this is kind
of the ending seen to Indiana Jones Raiders
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00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.840
of the Lost Arc. This large
warehouse, you've got all these boxes and
489
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:28.320
files and things stored away. This
is kind of a side picture here.
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00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:34.679
Now she worked in this environment.
This is Warehouse Operations, Building two fifty
491
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.840
eight. What she said was very
interesting. She said that her job was
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00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:45.920
to catalog a thousand components that came
from a UFO crusher retrieval a thousand components.
493
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.960
So she said what they had set
up was kind of an assembly line.
494
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.039
There'd be one guy over here taking
a photograph of debris, then there
495
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:59.360
was another guy here that was bagging
and tagging these things, and then it
496
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.880
finally got to her and she cataloged
all of this stuff over a thousand components.
497
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.760
So I told my friend Rudy,
give me a large warehouse over to
498
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.199
the left. I want to have
all these cabinets, drawers, things where
499
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.920
you could stack up debris. On
the other side, I want to have
500
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:21.639
more shelving here. She also said
that while she was typing all these tags
501
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:25.000
for the bagging and tagging operation,
that there was a rolling dolly that came
502
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.920
by that was like a cart on
wheels, and there were two bodies that
503
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.320
rolled right past her, and they
were preserved in this formaldehyde preservation liquid.
504
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.760
And so here's what we came up
with. So this is, you know,
505
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:44.599
it's this word against hers, against
the United States government who says that
506
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.960
we don't have any physical evidence.
Now, just before she passed away,
507
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.599
some of the researches got to her
and her exact quote was, quote,
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00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.519
Uncle Sam, can't do anything to
me once I'm in my grave. So
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00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.440
I give her credit a hero,
an American hero, coming forward telling us
510
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:06.760
basically in her dying breath, that
this is going on, this is actually
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00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:10.559
being retrieved, and we do have
the hardware, we do have the debris,
512
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.559
we do have the bodies. Next
one source retired Air Force pilot,
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00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:22.039
late nineteen fifties time frame. This
was an interview conducted by Ed Cameron Junior.
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00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.400
Now, this gentleman said that he
witnessed a five to six minute movie
515
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.760
clip. This was a black and
white movie clip that depicted a large sixty
516
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:36.159
foot diameter disc shape craft that was
in an unknown hannah. And he said
517
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:40.000
that the movie split to a different
screen that showed basically a displaced screen with
518
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:46.039
buttons switches, dials, levers,
there was iconology projected on the inside wall
519
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.480
of the craft itself, and there
were three bodies near the craft itself.
520
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.400
There was a whole breach on the
side of the craft and what looked like
521
00:41:54.440 --> 00:42:00.159
the propulsion system on a troop transport
near the craft itself. And this is
522
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:05.440
the blow up of what that may
have looked like. So again Military Air
523
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.639
Force pilot coming forward with this story. Interesting case. This is April nineteen
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00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:15.480
fifty two White Peter's and Air Force
Base and this is page eighty eight.
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00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.360
This is a transient group of pilots
part of the three fifty four Tactical Air
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00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.960
Command Fighter Wing. And the major
General who was a part of this tactical
527
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:29.559
fighter wing, he was in charge
of keeping all of these guys physically fit.
528
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.480
So they're walking down these rows of
hangers looking for this mobile handball court
529
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.000
where you could have another war here
and one wall here and you'd formate this
530
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:44.679
large racket ball type court. So
as they're going through these rows of hangers,
531
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.760
one of these hanger doors was opened. They all ran inside and they
532
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:53.239
see this very interesting fifteen foot diameter
disc shaped craft. His exact words,
533
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.639
where it looked like a track and
field discus. That's exactly what this thing
534
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:04.039
looked like. They were challenged by
a military police. This whole thing was
535
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.639
propped up by two engine test stands. They were ushered out of the area
536
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:13.000
immediately. But I thought a very
interesting quality is what he said here.
537
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.400
The guard challenged by saying, I
don't think you're supposed to be here,
538
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:22.280
sir, I replied to the affirmative, and we turned about face and departed,
539
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:27.199
mumbling to ourselves that the good old
US had developed or had all along
540
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:32.880
flying saucers in service. Personally,
I trust this witness fighter pilot, no
541
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.599
reason to lie. He accidentally saw
it was there. I trust this particular
542
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:44.480
witness. This is reference fifty three, just an illustration of what he saw.
543
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.199
We don't have a lot of details. This is nineteen sixty three.
544
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.039
Another case where P J who was
a captain in the Navy. He later
545
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.280
flew for Branifare lines. He was
at the right place at the right time
546
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:04.159
and did see a thirty foot diameter
dish shaped craft within the Stringfield historical collection.
547
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.239
Now I want to move on to
this case, very interesting case.
548
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:14.719
I've got a lot of documentation on
this one. This is nineteen sixty three,
549
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:20.119
December nineteen sixty three, literally days
after Kennedy was assassinated in November twenty
550
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:25.760
second, nineteen sixty three in Dallas, Texas. This is a US marine.
551
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.719
I do have his name. I
know where he lived back in nineteen
552
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:36.559
eighty six, page fifty two,
Case two, so Cherry Point, North
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00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:40.800
Carolina. He is told to board
a plane with blacked out windows. I'm
554
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.760
going to give you the map shows
you where he started from. So here's
555
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:49.760
the pin mark. Here shows you
where they started from. So he gets
556
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.880
in this plane with blacked out windows. They fled approximately three hours by plane
557
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.920
to a location that he wasn't briefed
on. When he got out, he
558
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:02.280
saw this large building and they opened
up what appeared to be hanger doors.
559
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.440
And I'm going to take you inside
the hanger and show you what this craft
560
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:12.599
looked like. Now, this was
about forty feet in diameter. It was
561
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:17.440
fifteen feet tall, highly polished chrome
aluminum exterior. No rivets, no scenes,
562
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.599
no fastness whatsoever, no world seems. There was a fully integrated door
563
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.840
at the bottom of the craft itself
that you could not put a razor blade
564
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.159
in. There. There were nine
opach ellichtrically shaped windows wrapped around the outer
565
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:37.119
circumference. But the craft and if
you look here, I've got the red
566
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:42.719
dots indicating the attempted points of entry
with a diamond tip drilled it. He
567
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:46.800
also mentioned that the entire craft and
will go ahead to the color rendering gives
568
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:52.960
you an idea what this thing looked
like. This entire craft was propped up
569
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.639
on aircraft scaffolding and they built a
catwalk ware. You could walk around this
570
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.360
entire thing kind of at I level
looking inside these opaque what would appear to
571
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:06.800
be windows. Want to give credit
to Joseph Waith for doing the artwork.
572
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.039
These are the three ways that they
try to get in this craft itself.
573
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.679
Number one was a diamond tip drill
bit Number two was an acettylene torch.
574
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.880
And then they tried a laser to
get into this craft. We'll talk about
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00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.800
that in a bit too. This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is the original
576
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:29.880
sketch by the primary of what.
This is not a carbon copy, This
577
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:34.119
is not a rough. This is
his original sketch by his hand. If
578
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.280
we look on the upper corners,
you see these lights here. The whole
579
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:44.599
place was excruciatingly well lit, no
shadows whatsoever. You can see the scaffolding,
580
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.880
we've got the catwalk. You can
even see these pads under the craft
581
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:52.280
itself. Little bit of a rough
sketch, but gives you the basic outline
582
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:58.880
of what this craft actually looks like. Here's the drawing by Michael Johnston,
583
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.760
who interviewed the primary witnessed back in
nineteen eighty six, a little bit more
584
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.440
of a refined drawing. If you
look off to the side, there's a
585
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.599
one inchlept that you can see here, a one inch lip between the outer
586
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:16.239
skin of the craft itself and the
outer portion of these opaque windows. That
587
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:21.800
was very important. The whole thing
was propped up about five feet off the
588
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.880
ground, so you could walk under
this craft if you wanted to. Here's
589
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.920
my drawing that gives you a little
bit of a refined drawing, that gives
590
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:35.039
you a better idea. I've blown
up the section where there's this one inch
591
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.320
lipt here. Then I also want
to mention that the primary witness said that
592
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:45.039
there was a white circle painted directly
below this craft, and his job for
593
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.119
a period of two weeks in December
nineteen sixty three was to actually guard this
594
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:53.679
craft four a period of two weeks. He was told that if anyone tried
595
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:59.599
to breach this circle painted directly below
this craft, he was to shoot first
596
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:04.119
and ask questions later, no matter
who it was. That was his mandate.
597
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.280
Here's what the craft may have looked
like from Joseph's ketch. We try
598
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:13.639
to maintain an important part of our
national history. Here. Here is an
599
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:17.800
illustration that shows what this drilling process
looked like. You can forget about diamond
600
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:23.440
tip drill bits. It was completely
impervious to diamond tip drill bits. This
601
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:29.119
was the first past color illustration of
the scene. You can see MPs in
602
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.960
here. You can also look if
you look closely, you can see this
603
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.199
white painted circle on the floor giving
the idea of what this craft actually looked
604
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.199
like. Here. Now, what
I want to do is I want to
605
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.800
pretend that we're like a fly on
the wall and fly you into this facility
606
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.480
without them knowing it. Here.
So I'm going to take you into the
607
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:54.159
facility. We're entering the chain link
fence. Now we're through the chain link
608
00:48:54.199 --> 00:49:00.480
fence. Now we're walking into the
hangar. We're getting a little bit closer
609
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.639
here. Now that painted circle on
the floor is coming into view, and
610
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.559
we can see the MPs. We've
got a couple of suits. He did
611
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:14.840
mention that it appeared to be some
intelligence people there. I also want to
612
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:19.440
mention that there were two teams of
lab coat technicians and they all had color
613
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.639
coded badges. So if you had
a red badge, you had access here
614
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.400
to the whole facility. If you
had a green badge, you could go
615
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.920
here, but not here. He
definitely mentioned that there were color coded badges
616
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:37.199
associated with these white lap coat technicians. Top view looking down about a forty
617
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:42.599
five degree lookdown angle. Clearly in
view. Now you can see the white
618
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.719
painted circle. Now the last day
he was there, and just before the
619
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:51.239
last day he was there, he
said that they had built a cradle system
620
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.679
and they were hoisting this craft off
the scaffolding onto a cradle. They were
621
00:49:54.719 --> 00:50:00.280
covering the whole craft with a framework. They covered the framework with a tot
622
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.400
and we're moving it to the next
location. So here is the building of
623
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.800
the framework. Now you can see
they are beginning to top the entire craft
624
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:14.840
itself. The top is basically fully
integrated. Now they've got the eighteen wheel
625
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:20.239
attractor trailer up and ready they're getting
ready to ship this thing out here,
626
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.440
We've got everything set to go.
Now now we're getting ready to move out
627
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:29.159
and now the final mobilization to the
next facility. So one way that they
628
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:34.159
keep all of this secret is number
one, they compartmentalize everything. That's the
629
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.679
first thing. Next thing they do
is no one asset stays at any one
630
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:43.239
location for any length of time.
They keep moving these things from place to
631
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:47.519
place, and they keep reassigning the
military personnel that actually guard these crafts.
632
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.679
So that's one way that they keep
these things secret. Now here is the
633
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:57.079
original drawing that Woody did, just
giving you a little bit of an idea
634
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.119
of what this actually looked like.
Now we talked about the laser. He
635
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.519
said that when he was there after
they failed with a diamond tip drill bits,
636
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.079
and they failed with the acetylene torches. What they actually brought in were
637
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:15.800
two eighteen wheeler tactor trailer lowboy trucks
with an electrical generating device on each of
638
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:22.159
these low boy trucks, and there
were two heavy gage cables that came out
639
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.760
led from the flat at trucks inside
the hanger connected to a laser, and
640
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:30.000
they were shining a laser on the
skin of the craft. It reflected off
641
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.480
and bounced up and had a ceiling
tile and damaged the ceiling tile. When
642
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.639
they moved the laser away, it
was worn to the touch but made no
643
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:44.320
effect on the skin whatsoever. So
bottom line as if they'd been pouring in
644
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:50.079
multi billions of dollars in black budget
funding, researching, developing, reverse engineering
645
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:54.000
these craft, if they figured out
the material science and they can integrate that
646
00:51:54.079 --> 00:52:00.079
into our fighter aircraft, we would
definitely have an advantage. And you just
647
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.000
know that that's what they are trying
to do. Here. Now here's this
648
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.960
site that shows you the ceiling damage, and I bring this up. This
649
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:14.559
is his original drawing that shows this
incident. It's important because something interesting happened
650
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:19.559
in this very poor sci fi beflick. I don't recommend it. It has
651
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.400
not held up well over time.
This is Hannah eighteen from nineteen eighty.
652
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:29.840
There's a couple of similarities in this
movie. In this movie there are wide
653
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:35.840
lab coat technicians. That's interesting because
this marine said the same thing. I'm
654
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.679
thinking, is Hollywood a belated designer
leak for something that's actually going on?
655
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:44.920
Are they trying to tell us something
with Hollywood. Number two. The marine
656
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.199
said that the whole thing was propped
up by scaffolding. In this movie,
657
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:53.480
they're scaffolding in the movie. That's
point number two, number three. In
658
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:57.840
this movie, if you can make
it through fifty percent of this movie,
659
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.599
there is an incident with a laser. This marine said, there was an
660
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:06.800
incident with a laser. So these
things are tracking with what's going on in
661
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:12.320
the movie and what he also observed. We talked about the badges each one
662
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.559
of these lab coat technicians. They
had a color coded badge. If you
663
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:20.440
had a green badge, you could
go here. If you had a yellow
664
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.119
badge, you could go here.
If you had a red badge, you
665
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:28.199
had access to the whole facility.
That's how they worked this out with the
666
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.159
color coded badges. I also want
to mention that there was a time,
667
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:36.880
because his job was to frisk anyone
who came into the facility, but there
668
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:40.400
was one time that he was left
alone in this hammer facility with the craft
669
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.719
all by himself. He brought in
a small Minix camera and he took a
670
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.639
photograph of this thing. Unfortunately,
that photograph was lost in a flood.
671
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.920
In nineteen eighty three. We were
this close of getting evidence of what this
672
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:58.760
craft looked like. So I want
to take you to a replica of what
673
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.199
this Minix camera photo may have looked
like. And it may have looked something
674
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:07.639
like this, a little bit grainy, kind of black and white gray tomes
675
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.760
something that may have looked like this. We were this close of getting some
676
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.880
good evidence. Now, there was
one particular moment where a U. S.
677
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:21.519
United States Navy had came very close
to get in shot by this MP
678
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:25.679
because he had almost breached that white
circle that was painted on the floor directly
679
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:30.800
below the craft. And I tracked
down it might have been this guy right
680
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.880
here, Paul Nints, the United
States Secretary of the Navy between nineteen sixty
681
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:40.119
three to nineteen sixty seven. The
time frame checks out. It may have
682
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.000
likely been this gentleman, so he
would have had sort of a need to
683
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.960
know, but was denied access from
the MP. Now I want to bring
684
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.679
up this gentleman for Star Major General
Melvin F. Mc nicholl. He was
685
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:58.000
base commander at Tinker Air Force Base. What does this have to do with
686
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:04.719
our discussion? Here here is his
obituary Extinker Commander Melvin McNichol dies. This
687
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.360
is The Daily Oklahoma, July eleventh, nineteen eighty six. Now, this
688
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:14.599
particular general was friends with a very
interesting person, Charlotte Man, who was
689
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:20.039
intimately involved in a nineteen forty one
Cape Giraro incident. She actually held the
690
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.559
photograph on her hand. They had
a mutual interest in you were foes,
691
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.039
and so after many years of talking
about U were foes, she turns to
692
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.360
this general. She says, General, you know, we've been friends for
693
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:37.800
all these years and we have this
mutual interest in you were foes, and
694
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.159
you've never told me anything. You've
never spilled the beans, You've never really
695
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.199
given me any briefing about U were
foes. Are you still my friend?
696
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.320
So he turns to her and says, Charlotte, if you ever repeat what
697
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.360
I'm about to tell you, I'll
deny it and it could ruin my career.
698
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:59.719
That's what he told her. So
what he went on to tell her
699
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:04.239
is Number One, he saw a
UFO which was located in there west.
700
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:09.599
Isn't that interesting because the marine who
left by Cherry Point, North Carolina three
701
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:15.360
hours by plane foots it in the
vicinity of the west. That checks out
702
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:20.920
Number two. Charlotte meant that this
general told her that he walked around a
703
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:25.719
UFO on a kathwalk which was propped
up by scaffolding. This is exactly what
704
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:31.039
the marine had described. Number three, this general told Charlotte Man that bodies
705
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:37.519
were recovered and one was still alive. This particular marine overheard water cooler talk
706
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:44.800
about bodies being recovered and at least
something being alive. So these things they
707
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.960
check out. And I heard this
from Charlotte Man at eu Fock about four
708
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.639
years ago. I said, yep, I got it, because I know
709
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:57.559
these two people didn't know each other, and there tracking completely the witnesses check
710
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:02.280
out. Now could the public handle
the truth? I can't make that statement.
711
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.280
I'm going to give you the statement
from the gentleman who was there and
712
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:13.960
saw the physical evidence for himself.
This is from the marine quote. There's
713
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:16.280
a certain amount of people who,
if the thing was on display down there
714
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:22.039
street, would still rather stay home
and watch football. Not by US Marine,
715
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:27.920
August twenty second, nineteen eighty six. So according to someone who's within
716
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:31.960
a military application, military field,
who's seen the evidence with his own eyes,
717
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:37.000
he feels we're ready. I think
we're ready. I think we're ready.
718
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:42.719
I think the congressmen think that we
should be ready. We really do
719
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:46.800
need to move forward with disclosure.
Here now Fort Riley, Kansas. We
720
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:52.320
have the audio tape interview of the
primary I witness on this case. This
721
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:58.559
is December tenth, nineteen sixty four. He served in the Infantry first Division,
722
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.960
his initial We do have his name
and this is page twenty four,
723
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:08.039
Abstract twenty. Here is the map
at Camp Forsyth where this all went down.
724
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:14.559
He boarded a military vehicle. They
went into a six by troop transport
725
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.639
where they went about a mile down
the road. They got into this opening
726
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.360
that was completely This is a dark
knight retrieval operation. When he got there,
727
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:27.199
he saw a UH one hue helicopter
that was criss crossing the scene with
728
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:32.679
a spotlight shining down. We have
his original sketch and when he got to
729
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.000
the exact scene. This is the
craft that he saw. It's about forty
730
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:42.519
eight feet in diameter eighteen feet tall. It had a thin kind of on
731
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.079
the f end of the craft.
There were also these very strange square devices
732
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:51.760
that were jetting out ten inches from
the outer circumference of the craft itself,
733
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.760
and then on the bottom side of
this thin it looked like there was an
734
00:58:54.800 --> 00:59:00.159
exhaust port, That's what he said. This was the first color rendering that
735
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:06.320
I put together of what this thing
may actually have looked like. And then
736
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:08.239
this is the sketch by Woody that
shows you the scene of what it may
737
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:13.800
have looked like if we were there. Now, they also had men with
738
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.079
Geiger counters looking at this, and
he said that when he got closer to
739
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.800
the craft it was warmer than the
outside atmosphere temperature, so that was an
740
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.119
interesting point as well. So this
is the full color rendering of what this
741
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.000
may have looked like. You can
see the UH one up on the upper
742
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:37.559
left shining the spotlight down. Good
witness. We've got his paperwork, we've
743
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:42.880
got his documentation, we've got his
original sketch, and we'll go to the
744
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:46.679
next viewing of this illustration a little
bit more of a three quarter view here.
745
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:52.199
This shows the exhaust port and a
thinn in a little bit greater detail.
746
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:57.039
Now, there were other witnesses not
connected to the original witness that reported
747
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:01.119
this craft on a flatbed trailer leaving
the base, and other witnesses came forward
748
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:06.679
that day had has mat suits on
when they were involved in the retrieval operation.
749
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:12.320
So multiple witness on this particular case. Now, I debated whether or
750
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.800
not I should include this, but
since we're all on the same team here,
751
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:21.320
I'm going to include it anyway.
This is US Air Force Museum,
752
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:27.480
Dayton, Ohio, nineteen sixty five. This is page ninety three. If
753
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.559
you go to the Air Museum today, you can go pretty much to the
754
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:36.079
exact spot of where this scene actually
took place. So a couple went to
755
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:39.840
the Air Force Museum on a Sunday. This is back in nineteen sixty five.
756
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.199
So the wife and the husband are
looking at the V two rocket display.
757
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:49.679
For some reason, he leaves his
wife and he just starts walking around
758
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:54.559
the Air Force Museum, leaves his
wife completely stranded, and so here is
759
01:00:54.599 --> 01:01:00.400
the V two rocket display. He's
starting to walk down these corridors now and
760
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:04.960
he gets kind of lost. He
bumps through this double doorway that says off
761
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.760
limits, and he is met with
an incredible sight. This is what it
762
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:14.159
looked like. There was this strange
being through and a half to four feet
763
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:17.480
tall. He was wearing a one
piece of mercury spacesuit that was kind of
764
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:22.760
wrinkled. He had a helmet on, oversized head, very small mouth minute
765
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:28.920
nose. He was stretching out his
index finger toward the primary eye witness.
766
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.440
Within ten seconds, all of the
alarms in the Air Force Museum went off,
767
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:37.480
all the buzzeres went off, all
the red lights started going off,
768
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:43.920
and he noticed that there were people
ushering the general public out of the museum,
769
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.679
and this was like a red alert. So somehow, whatever this creature
770
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:53.159
was, it had escaped its underground
containment center at Bright Patterson Air Force Base
771
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:59.679
and was wandering the back inner corridors
of the Air Force Museum. Believe it
772
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.440
or not, it's part of the
story. It's part of the case.
773
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.760
United States Air Force, Right Patterson
Air Force Base, nineteen sixty six,
774
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:13.480
civil service electrician. Now, this
is a case where this gentleman he got
775
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:17.280
into some trouble because what he did
is he stole a photograph from right Patterson
776
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.239
Air Force Base. He brought it
home that night. One of his two
777
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:27.400
sons was present at home that night. He says, I got something I
778
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.440
want to show you. So he
went into his breast pocket, pulled off
779
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:37.039
his photograph, and it depicted about
a for foot tall et. It was
780
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:42.719
deceased. It was being held up
by its wrist. One gentleman was wearing
781
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:46.360
military carpies and military boots. The
other was kind of like a white lab
782
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:52.920
coat technician. This was kind of
in a southwest desert environment. Could have
783
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.039
been Arizona at the time, we
weren't sure, so he showed his son.
784
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.519
When he got back to base.
The next day they discovered the photograph
785
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:07.159
was missing, he was fired on
the spot. So this is one of
786
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.199
these cases where it did not have
a good ending, but they did have
787
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:16.239
the evidence. This is Southwest July
third, nineteen sixty seven, right first
788
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:21.320
class in the marine, thirty foot
down at a disc shaped craft. So
789
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:24.559
the set up here is this particular
military personnel got on a plane with blackout
790
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:30.880
windows. They flew to a new, unimproved dirt runway. When they got
791
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.760
there, they saw three things.
There were a couple of tents. Off
792
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.760
to the side, there was a
prefabricated building, and then over to the
793
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:45.239
left there was this concert style hut. And his job was to guard this
794
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:49.679
hut and don't let anyone in this
hut. Now, after about three days
795
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:54.599
of all this, he saw these
other people going into this prefabricated hannah,
796
01:03:54.639 --> 01:04:00.159
and curiosity got the best of him. So he peered inside, opened up
797
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.639
this flat, looked inside, and
what he saw was a thirty foot diameter
798
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:09.719
disc shaped craft. It had a
dome on top. He also mentioned that
799
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:14.599
there were work benches with technical components
on there, like calipers. There were
800
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:20.079
micrometers there, microscopes were there,
what coke technicians there? Off to the
801
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.320
corner, there was a walk in
freezer with body bags. That's what he
802
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:30.639
said. Now he was reprimanded as
well. So this is another case where
803
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.760
this military personnel got to see this
physical evidence. Here's the full color rendering
804
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:39.360
of what this may have looked like
if we were there at the time of
805
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:45.360
the incident. Fortford, Texas,
late nineteen sixties private pilot. This is
806
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:51.000
page ninety one. Very interesting case, very important case to this entire story
807
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:57.679
here. So late nineteen sixties,
nineteen sixty eight time frame assessment one hundred
808
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:01.599
and seventy two. Pilot is flying
over fourt hood and within fort foot there's
809
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:08.199
something called Gray Army Airfield plays a
real big role in all this. So
810
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:13.960
this pilot is making an emergency landing
on one of these unimproved runways which is
811
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.320
off limits because it's a secure facility. Now, while all this is going
812
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:23.119
on. A military jeep pulls up
with two MPs with pistols aimed right at
813
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:27.360
him. You can see him off
to the corner here the sester one seventy
814
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:30.280
two and the upper view here.
While all this is going on, a
815
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:35.719
massive repeat, massive four hundred foot
long by four hundred foot long bypassed door
816
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:42.119
opens up. It was the entrance
to a massive underground facility. He said
817
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.199
that there was a Cray computer section
there. There were helicopters in there.
818
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:49.400
This may have been the staging point
for craft that looked like the cash Land
819
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:55.480
at incident. That's July twenty ninth, nineteen eighty, much many years later.
820
01:05:56.440 --> 01:06:00.599
But he did see this large underground
facility. What is was is it
821
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.320
was an underground runway and he had
seen the bypass doors. No one would
822
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:09.920
even know it's there because the upper
surface of this bypass door had bushes,
823
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:14.000
it had trees, it had low
shrubs on it. It blended in with
824
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:17.440
the surrounding background. You would never
know it's there if you weren't looking for
825
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:21.559
it. So what they do is
at the very final approach of an aircraft,
826
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:27.519
they tell the pilots look at for
this location, look for this bypass,
827
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:31.639
that door opens up and then they
can land straight inside. So the
828
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:38.119
question is is there an underground seeker
facility at Gray Army Airfield. A couple
829
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:43.440
of quick things I want to mention
from researcher Tommy Bland who interviewed this military
830
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:47.159
personnel that had talked about the pilot. Here it says the colonel stated that
831
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:54.039
underground installations, as well as isolated
areas of military reservations, have squadrons of
832
01:06:54.119 --> 01:07:00.000
unmarked helicopters which have sophisticated instrumentation on
board, that are dispatched to areas.
833
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.679
The UFO activity to monitor these craft
or air let them out of the area
834
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:09.280
if one of them has malfunction.
So many times we hear eyewitnesses in the
835
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:15.119
vicinity of Gray Army Airfield where a
UFO is being escorted by military helicopters,
836
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:19.119
so you know they are doing these
test flights. The other quote here,
837
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:25.519
the technology that is being applied in
this underground complex would remind someone of a
838
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:30.320
science fiction thriller. It is unbelievable
what they know and can do from this
839
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:35.320
area. This is Tommy Brahm,
page ninety two. So interesting quotes by
840
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:41.679
this particular researcher. This is the
Chinuk c H forty seven helicopter that time
841
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:46.199
after time we see in these UFO
sightings where this craft is ushering its escorting
842
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:51.079
these UFO craft. So here's the
full color rendering of what this looks like.
843
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:55.920
You can see the pilot with the
one hundred and seventy two in the
844
01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:00.320
upper section of the illustration. We've
got the bypassed door open up. AC
845
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:05.039
one point thirty is coming in for
a landing. This is a massive complex
846
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:12.000
and there is a meglev train that
connects all these underground facilities together. We've
847
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:16.600
heard this so many times that there's
a massive criss crossing structure of underground facilities
848
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:21.039
that connect all these bases together.
So my question is how do we prove
849
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:25.920
that. Do we have any paperwork
that could prove that there is such an
850
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:30.399
underground facility network? And I want
to talk about that a little bit later.
851
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:35.760
Here California City, Summer nineteen seventy
one, Debbie Clayton, page two
852
01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:42.239
hundred and twenty three. That's the
primary eye witness on this case. And
853
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:45.680
what they heard was a loud rawl
like an engine of an airplane starting up.
854
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.159
Seconds later, they heard a boom
and a crash. There were only
855
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:55.479
about six houses in the vicinity,
so they walk out. There were about
856
01:08:55.520 --> 01:09:00.560
six eyewitnesses with the neighbors, and
they saw this ten foot diameter, disshaped
857
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:04.680
craft. It was about five feet
tall. It had a mushroom edge on
858
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:10.920
the outer circumference of the craft itself. Within ten minutes, the military arrived,
859
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:15.039
we believe from Edward's Air Force Space. They were told to exit the
860
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:20.159
vicinity. The commanding officer grabbed the
camera from one of the primary eyewitnesses,
861
01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:25.840
through it to the ground. He
did not take the film out of the
862
01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:30.239
camera, and then all six eyewitnesses
watched the entire retrieval operation where they put
863
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:35.319
a netting under the craft. They
had straps that led to an IRIS,
864
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:40.840
and then they hoisted the craft up
onto the eighteen wheeler, tracked a trailer
865
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.119
Lowboy, and moved it back to
Edward's Air Force Space. Good case.
866
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:49.720
Good eyewitnesses. Now this case is
another one of these. I just don't
867
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:54.479
know if I should bring it up, but since we're all here, it's
868
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:58.960
part of the story. I'm going
to bring it up anyway. This is
869
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:02.600
Cambodia, April nineteen seventy two.
High ranking army officer, page two hundred
870
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:06.640
and twenty one, two hundred and
twenty three. There was a fire fight,
871
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.680
There was an incident. There was
a conflict between a military platoon of
872
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:17.359
army ranges you could say, and
an ET race. This is the vicinity
873
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:23.680
of where this took place in Cambodia. This witness came forward. It's in
874
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:28.760
Leonard's book, and this was about
a fifty foot diameter sphere, highly polished
875
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:35.640
reflective chrome exterior, no scenes,
no visible means of propulsion, no rivets.
876
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:41.199
It had a series of tripod landing
gear legs that came out. This
877
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:45.720
is the original sketch. There was
an insignia on the craft itself and what
878
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:51.199
he described is a confrontation by its
and military personnel. There were multiple ET
879
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:57.199
casualties, one human casualty, definitely
a five fight. Now, what was
880
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:01.279
going on here is some of these
that were loading human body into white plastic
881
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:06.520
bins and then loading it into the
craft. They saw this going on a
882
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:12.560
very gruesome scene, but it's part
of the historical legacy. Something was going
883
01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:16.159
on in Vietnam. There is absolutely
a lot of good evidence to indicate that
884
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:23.239
something bizarre was really going on during
Vietnam. This is the full color rendering
885
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:27.199
of what this fire fight may actually
appear. Now, how do we know
886
01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:30.840
that? If we start looking at
the cases from all of the autobinder reports,
887
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:35.439
and I've got one here. This
is September ninth, nineteen sixty eight.
888
01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:40.680
A helicopter crew of the US knew
it was no viets own craft that
889
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:45.279
made fantastic manoeuvers through the sky for
twenty minutes, but was a genuine UFO.
890
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:50.680
Credit goes to George de Force It
and its case after case of these
891
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:57.960
military encounters with UFOs during the Vietnam
War can't be denied. This is the
892
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.199
full color rendering of what this incident
may have looked like. And then I
893
01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:05.000
got a report by my late good
friend Mark mccannalish, who interviewed a B
894
01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:12.399
twenty four Liberate, a pilot who
flew a Bee fifty two during Vietnam.
895
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:16.239
This is in South Vietnam, nineteen
sixty six. So the set up here
896
01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:21.079
is it's at night and this Bee
fifty two is flying with multiple crew members.
897
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:26.319
They come across a one quarter to
one half mile dish shaped craft and
898
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:31.079
you can see the little dot that's
a B fifty two. This is all
899
01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:35.720
at night. So now they do
about three orbits around this Bee fifty two,
900
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:41.760
and you can see these bypass doors
wrapped around the outer circumference of the
901
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:46.760
craft. These bypass doors start rotating
at a very high rpm. I'll go
902
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:53.039
to the next drawing here that shows
you the AutoCAD rendering. These bypass doors
903
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:57.000
were rotating so quickly they turned out
to be a blur. It was so
904
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.960
fast. Now you can imagine these
B fifty two pilots. They are flying
905
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:05.119
around the outer dome of this craft. This dome was made up of about
906
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:11.119
twenty seven levels and the reason why
they could do this is because the Bee
907
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:14.840
fifty two is shielded for EMP,
so there was no effect on the Bee
908
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:18.319
fifty two whatsoever. Here's kind of
a drawing of what this may have looked
909
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:24.279
like. And then this is Mars
original sketch of the Bee fifty two making
910
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:28.800
this left hand turn. Now,
what happened next is really interesting, And
911
01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:32.439
keep in mind this is all at
night time. The Bee fifty two pilot
912
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:36.680
told Mark mccanlish that as this craft
departed, and this is all at night,
913
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:42.079
it opened up some time of a
wormhole or space time continuum, and
914
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:46.520
this craft sipped inside this wormhole opened
up a section that looked like blue sky
915
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:51.680
and clouds. When the craft went
in, the blue sky and clouds trickled
916
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:57.199
back to darkness again. Very bizarre
scene. But this is from a military
917
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.680
pilot who flew B fifty twos in
Vietnam complex Great Lakes Naval Training Center,
918
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:06.920
September nineteen seventy three. This is
a gunnery school instructor and he was told
919
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:13.159
to guard a qunset style building.
This is page eighty nine. So this
920
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:15.199
general came up to him and said, I have something that I need you
921
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:21.720
to deliver to the commanding officer inside
this qunset style facility. So this gentleman
922
01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:26.640
walks down this corridor. He makes
a left hand turn. He is escorted
923
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:31.560
by these CEB's military police on either
side. When he gets in this large
924
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:36.439
corridor, he sees a teardrop shaped
UFO that could be considered a us SO
925
01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:42.960
Unidentified submerged object. It's propped off
the floor about two feet on a wooden
926
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.920
platform. This is what the craft
looked like, about thirty five feet across,
927
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:51.479
about twelve feet high, tier drop
shape. There was a ridge that
928
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:56.800
went from the leading edge of the
craft over on top to the trailing edge,
929
01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.399
and I'll go ahead and move to
the next color in a stration.
930
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.359
This is something that could go in
water very easily. And this is what
931
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:10.159
the craft actually looked like. So
he got inside, he delivered this letter
932
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:14.439
to the commanding officer. He kind
of did and about face, and then
933
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.800
as his walking by he got a
real good look at this craft. He
934
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:21.239
said that there was a blue coronal
discharge on the leading edge of the craft
935
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:28.319
itself as he was walking by.
Now what's interesting here is the story didn't
936
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:31.720
end here because two weeks prior to
all this going on, he met a
937
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:36.239
naval personnel at a bar one night
and this guy said, you know what,
938
01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:41.720
I was on a navy destroyer and
we shot down a UFO that had
939
01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:45.319
a tear drop shaped to it.
And this is interesting because it gived exactly
940
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:50.399
what this other gentleman had said.
So this is tracking. This is back
941
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:55.560
in June nineteen seventy three, prior
to this all going on, and this
942
01:15:55.680 --> 01:16:00.640
gentleman told our primary witness that none
other than Howard Hughes's Glomar explorer was used
943
01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:04.159
to pick this thing off the bottom
of the Ocean. So that makes you
944
01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:10.479
wonder wal what did Howard Hughes know
and what other things did there Glomar explorer
945
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:15.279
pick off from the ocean bottom?
How see I Diverse Retrieve Russian Secrets.
946
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:20.079
San Francisco Examiner, March nineteenth,
nineteen seventy five, and Nat talked about
947
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:26.000
in this book A matter of Risk. During nineteen seventy three to seventy four,
948
01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:30.520
a Russian submarine was recovered from the
bottom of the Pacific Ocean. And
949
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:34.199
my question is is there something else
they recovered? Did they do something else
950
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:40.560
with this? Are there other assets
that this device actually picked up? According
951
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:45.880
to Arca's informant, the object was
retrieved by the Glomar Explorer, shipped to
952
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:50.279
Hawaii and then send Stateside and finally
to Chicago. A sketch of the craft
953
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:55.720
was drawn by the sailor, and
according to Arkee, there was little doubt
954
01:16:55.720 --> 01:17:00.239
that it was the same object he
had seen in the Quants and Hut.
955
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.359
So we've got two independent, confirming
witnesses that didn't know each other, that
956
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:10.640
are describing virtually the same identical craft. Halt An Air Force Base. This
957
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:14.319
is back in nineteen seventy three.
This one came to us by John Lear.
958
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.479
This is page one hundred and sixty. Now, this is a photographer
959
01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:24.399
working in Hawaii at the time.
He had his security clearance upgraded and he
960
01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:29.199
was flown to Norton Air Force Base
where he was met with another photographer.
961
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.399
They both get in this Air Force
car and then they drive two hours by
962
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:36.479
car to an unknown location. All
of a sudden, the car stops and
963
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:41.760
completely stops, and then there was
a lift that dropped this car down to
964
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:45.479
an underground facility. Both photographers get
out of the car. They go into
965
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:50.720
another room. They disrobe, are
completely mute. Now they're put on this
966
01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:54.960
white smock and they go into this
open area. And I want to take
967
01:17:55.920 --> 01:18:00.000
you inside this area to show you
what they saw. They had their smocks
968
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:01.560
on, they've got their head dress
on, and they were told to go
969
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:08.760
inside a thirty foot diameter dish shaped
craft to photograph the interior. It had
970
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.640
been propped off the floor in a
netting by a large crane, and if
971
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:15.960
you look closely, you can see
kind of the entryway doorway. Now keep
972
01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:21.119
in mind this photographer said that this
thing was thirty feet in diameter when he
973
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:26.039
got inside. His exact quote was
I could have thrown a football as hard
974
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:30.319
as I could instill not hit the
other side. So something was going on
975
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:35.319
inside this craft, a space time
walk or something that it made to look
976
01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:41.199
about ten times larger than the exterior
was. He was astounded by what he
977
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:45.279
saw. There were other people in
there, and his job was to photograph
978
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:50.439
the interior components, the displays,
the dials, the panels. He popped
979
01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:54.880
his head back out inside just to
confirm that it was still thirty feet in
980
01:18:54.960 --> 01:19:00.039
diameter. And it was still thirty
feet in diameter. Now, when this
981
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:02.000
was all over, they were lowered
back onto the floor. They went to
982
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:06.920
another room where they were told to
photograph an ongoing autopsy of two bodies.
983
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:12.439
At the minimum, it could have
been three bodies. So this is an
984
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.840
illustration that shows you what this craft
may have looked like in there netting.
985
01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:21.720
It could have been an oversized overhead
crane type device. This is the enlargement,
986
01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:26.399
and then this is what the interior
may have looked like. Now,
987
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:30.640
you could throw a football in here
that would work. So something that may
988
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:34.159
have looked like the interior of this
craft is what he may have seen when
989
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:39.239
he got inside. Now, how
do we know that this whole concept of
990
01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:45.479
these underground bases and underground tunnels are
actually a reality. So this is Los
991
01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:50.239
Angeles Times, July nineteen seventy two. This is a long time ago LA
992
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:55.640
to New York in half an hour, ten thousand mile an hour tunnel train
993
01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:59.840
plan is developed. They talk about
the inner workings of this. How but
994
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:03.479
you can take and suck out all
theer there. You have a vacuum,
995
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:10.399
you've got electromagnetic propulsion in many of
these cases. I'll do a blow up
996
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:14.680
here that shows you the cutaway of
the passenger section. So is there anything
997
01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:17.680
that we can hang our hats on
to actually prove the existence of this?
998
01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:24.239
So I want to hit you with
this document. Project Ran Proceedings of the
999
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:30.800
Second Protective Construction Symposium, Deep Underground
Construction, March twenty fourth, twenty five,
1000
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:35.479
twenty six, nineteen fifty nine.
This is a long time ago here.
1001
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:41.359
What do they say in their own
documents? Here it says, just
1002
01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:45.479
as aplanes, ships and automobiles have
given man mastery of the surface of the
1003
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:49.840
Earth, tunnel boring machines and chef
sinkers will give him access to the subterranean
1004
01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:55.479
world. It is our aim to
provide machines which will supply the ever increasing
1005
01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:01.640
demand in mining and construction of underground
facilities. That's right there in their own
1006
01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:06.199
documentation, they are telling you that
they've got the technology, they've got the
1007
01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:10.119
need, they've got the means,
they've got the funding to do this.
1008
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:16.159
Over the last fifty sixty seventy years
they've been doing this. This is what
1009
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:20.760
the autopsy scene may have looked like. This is according to this photographer that
1010
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:28.039
had his security clearance upgraded. Mc
Clellanaire four Space, California, nineteen seventy
1011
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:31.680
three. This is interesting because I'm
sure all of you here know this gentleman.
1012
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:38.760
So there's a personal touch here.
There's a personal connection here. A
1013
01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:43.159
listen on. Azuka was a test
pilot. He was stationed that mc clellanare
1014
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:46.960
four Space back in nineteen seventy three. He was brought in unannounced with these
1015
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:51.920
other pilots into this briefing room about
this size right here. There are about
1016
01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:57.000
twelve pilots there. All of a
sudden, the lights go down and in
1017
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:01.279
the back there's this movie projector and
this three star general projects on this wall
1018
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:06.199
a motion picture film. And what
do they show here? Here is a
1019
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:11.880
test pilot a listen on Azuka.
They are shown about a five minute movie
1020
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:15.279
clip of two aliens being autoxid on
a slab. This is a listen looking
1021
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:20.880
back here, We've got the general
in the foreground here. He is absolutely
1022
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:26.479
astounded about this. He was going
to tell Leonard Stringfield all about this.
1023
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:32.119
He was absolutely astounded because one of
Leonard's researches got to this gentleman in time.
1024
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:38.399
However, two weeks before Leonard Stringfield
was going to interview this test pilot,
1025
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:42.439
who later became an astronaut, A
Lisson on Azuka, died in the
1026
01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:47.000
Challenger explosion. We were this close
of getting his testimony. Now. I
1027
01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:50.880
tracked down his widow. I sent
her a letter and I send her this
1028
01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:57.000
drawing exactly. I never got a
response. I don't know if she didn't
1029
01:22:57.039 --> 01:23:00.720
want to reply, but at least
I gave it a try. We would
1030
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.920
have had some really good, incredible
evidence from a former test pilot and Challenger
1031
01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:11.000
astronaut that died. On July twenty
eighth, nineteen eighty six, witness said
1032
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:15.920
that top secret UFO library existed at
mc Clellanair four Space. David Armstrong claims
1033
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:21.000
his argues to work for a top
secret UFO records library at mc clellan Air
1034
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:26.079
four space. In his twenties,
Armstrong went to visit her, and,
1035
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:30.439
knowing he had an interest in the
subject, Armstrong says, his unt let
1036
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.159
him take a look at the files. So this is an evidence that it
1037
01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:38.840
appears that there was a classified,
top secret library, a vault that included
1038
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:42.399
photographs, could have been drawings,
could have been eight by ten glosses,
1039
01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:46.359
and motion picture film reviews could have
been at mc clellanair four space. And
1040
01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:51.439
that checks out with a listen on
Izuka and here he is right here.
1041
01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:58.279
This is our astronaut, and of
course he died in the Challenger explosion.
1042
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:03.159
This is close to getting it,
write Patterson Air four Space, nineteen seventy
1043
01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:09.039
four. This was a new hire
that gave her two week notice, and
1044
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:14.560
the gentleman's name was Kent. He
was the interviewee. He was her boss,
1045
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.840
and they went to a dinner engagement. The boss was coincidentally there,
1046
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:24.319
and all of a sudden the subject
of uifos came up, as it sometimes
1047
01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:28.560
does, and this boss of the
lady could see that she was being ridiculed,
1048
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:31.359
and so he turns to the new
hire and says do you want to
1049
01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:38.880
see the evidence And she said now. He said now, So they get
1050
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:44.119
in his car. They drive to
write Patterson Air four space. He had
1051
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:48.800
the correct security clearances in key card
entry codes. They walked down this corridor.
1052
01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:55.760
He slides this key into a locking
device. It opens up. That
1053
01:24:55.880 --> 01:25:00.920
gives them access to an underground more
where there's these multiple drawers. He pulls
1054
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.039
off the store and there was an
et there about three and a half to
1055
01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:10.039
four feet tall, had an oversized
head, oversized eyes. She saw it,
1056
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:14.840
she touched it, and on the
way home she was trembling. We've
1057
01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:19.119
got her case on testimony as well. It changed her life forever. She
1058
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:24.159
could not believe what she was seeing
now. When the two weeks were up
1059
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:28.720
and she reported to work that Monday, she was told by the receptionist that
1060
01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:32.000
her boss passed away. He was
no longer in the operation at all.
1061
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:38.159
We don't know what happened to the
boss, so he completely disappeared off the
1062
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:44.319
radar screen. Caliom incident no Etorus
and Reuben get credit for this particular case.
1063
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:49.199
This is August twenty fourth, nineteen
seventy five. A disshaped craft was
1064
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:56.479
flying northbound across the Texas Mexican border. Coincidentally, a Cessna one seventy two
1065
01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:00.720
was flying southbound. There was a
midair collision. And this is the map,
1066
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:05.640
a little bit hard to see here, but this craft was going about
1067
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:11.279
two thousand, five hundred and thirty
miles an hour elt due to a seventy
1068
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:15.199
five thousand feet dropped down to the
same altitude that the one hundred and seventy
1069
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:20.039
two pilot was flying out. There
was a mid air collision. And while
1070
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:24.840
all this is going on, the
Mexican soldiers are beginning the retrieval operation,
1071
01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:30.119
and the intelligence agencies, the NSSA, the CIA, they are monitoring the
1072
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:34.439
radio traffic. While all this is
going on. They knew about all this,
1073
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:40.640
but the Mexican soldiers got there first. So what they did is they
1074
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:45.359
put the craft on an eighteen wheeler
tractor trailer low Boy, and there starting
1075
01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:48.359
down this dirt road retrieving this craft. And then something bizarre takes place.
1076
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:55.119
The entire convoy stops completely dead in
their tracks. And when the Air Force
1077
01:26:55.199 --> 01:27:00.840
Reconnaissance u S assets to a flyover, they see all these Mexican soldiers thrown
1078
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.920
out on the ground. They are
all completely gone. Some of these people
1079
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:10.359
were passed out over the steering wheel. Others were passed out on the drivers
1080
01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:15.199
and passenger side. All of them
were dead. There was some type of
1081
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:19.600
biological agent associated with this craft itself. So they flew in three U H
1082
01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:26.119
one helicopters with a c H fifty
three stallion, brought a lasso around the
1083
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:30.760
craft itself and then flew it to
C d C headquarters. And that's the
1084
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:35.119
bottom line on this particular crash retrieval
operation. These are the helicopters that were
1085
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:40.960
involved in the military retrieval operation.
This is the illustration that shows you what
1086
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:47.079
this retrieval operation may actually have looked
like. Top view looking down. So
1087
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:53.720
again they've got these craft. There
could have been a biological agent. There
1088
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:58.800
may have been bodies associated with this
particular incident. Fort Dix mc guire air
1089
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:02.680
Force Space Viewed, Jersey. This
is January eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight.
1090
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:08.920
Sergeant in the Air Force and Major
General George Fyler was there the morning after
1091
01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.720
this actually took place. So this
military police is on his regular round.
1092
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:17.760
This is all at night, went
out from the darkness on the far side
1093
01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:23.439
of Fort Dix McGuire Air Force Base. I've got the map here that shows
1094
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:28.800
you the perimeter fence. An et
pops out of the darkness. So what
1095
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.800
this MP does is he gets out
of his vehicle, he opens up his
1096
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:36.880
pistol forty five caliber pistol, and
he shoots this being. This being climbs
1097
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:40.960
over the fence to the McGuire end
of the field and dies at the end
1098
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:45.000
of her remote runway. The ex
here shows you where this body was.
1099
01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:50.479
This is what the vicinity of where
the retrieval operation took place. And this
1100
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:54.319
is the drawing that we came up
with that gives you an idea of what
1101
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:58.399
this took place. Now, what
happened next is this body was put up
1102
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:02.520
on a pedestal. They built a
wooden crate around it, they sprayed it
1103
01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:06.680
with a chemical. They loaded this
wooden crate with a body into a metal
1104
01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:12.439
container, and then the metal shipping
container was put into the f cargo bay
1105
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:16.479
of AC one forty one Starlifter and
flown back to right Field, Dating,
1106
01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:21.920
Ohio. And this is something that
happens again and again. We always hear
1107
01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:28.119
these reports of these crash retrieval making
their way to right Patterson Air Force Base,
1108
01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:31.199
Dating, Ohio. This is the
aircraft that flew this thing back to
1109
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:35.640
Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Now
I want to mention some women in this
1110
01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:43.039
field. We need more women in
apology. We absolutely do. There is
1111
01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:46.840
a lack of women in this field. Marina Popovich a spilot. This is
1112
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:51.600
page two hundred and forty five.
She got a very interesting report from a
1113
01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:58.760
Soviet colonel and engineered. She was
a decorated test pilot. The reference for
1114
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:03.159
this case is this gentleman, Major
General Aga Moltzlov, commanded in chief of
1115
01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:08.800
the Soviet Air Defense Troops. And
what he described from the general is two
1116
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:14.039
meek twenty threes trying to intercept a
six hundred and fifty foot diameter this shaped
1117
01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:17.560
craft near Moscow. While all this
is going on, we've got his report,
1118
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:25.239
so I started digging. I pulled
up the newspaper clipping it says Soviets
1119
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:30.880
more serious about sightings Miami Herald,
July eighth, nineteen ninety. We're not
1120
01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:32.920
going to read the whole thing,
but I want to highlight just a couple
1121
01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:40.079
of quick points here. Moltslov also
reported that jet fighters were scrambled and the
1122
01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:45.359
pilots described a disc from one hundred
to two hundred meters in diameter, flying
1123
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:49.359
at speeds two to three times faster
than there aircraft, coin Is said.
1124
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:55.720
The General concluded that the UFO had
somehow quote come to terms with gravity and
1125
01:30:55.760 --> 01:31:01.000
that it didn't seem to appear to
be a terrestrial machine. Very interesting terminology.
1126
01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:06.039
It came to terms with gravity.
I thought that was very interesting.
1127
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:13.880
Reference number sixteen Alien autopsy performed at
Walter Reed Hospital. This is something that
1128
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:18.880
we've heard about again and again bees
autopsies by the pathologists. This is date
1129
01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:26.000
nineteen fifty two fifty three kin Man, Arizona from doctor Stanley Taiiteko. That's
1130
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:30.119
the reference for this one. So
the question is what do these e T
1131
01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:35.399
beings look like? Let's look at
it from the pathologist report. Incredible background.
1132
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:41.000
What do they look like? What
are the reports telling us from the
1133
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:45.159
pathologist? Well, they are saying
that they are three and a half to
1134
01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:48.279
four and a half feet tall,
two round, almond shaped, sunken in
1135
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:56.119
eyes without pupils, heavy brow ridge, large hairless head by human standards,
1136
01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:02.079
no ill lobes, no definitive nose, no slit for a mouth. We've
1137
01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:09.039
got very thin neck, small torso, wearing a metallic flexible garment. Arms,
1138
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:13.079
described as long and thin, reaching
down to the knees. Hands have
1139
01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:17.119
four fingers without thumb slight webbing,
short and thin legs, no toes.
1140
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:24.319
Skin color based tan brown tan,
pinkish gray. So if you put all
1141
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:29.279
of these descriptions from the pathologist report
and you came up with adoring, this
1142
01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:32.359
is what it would look like.
I believe that this is the best rendering
1143
01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:36.840
that we can possibly put together of
what these beings look like based on the
1144
01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:43.039
actual pathologist report of people who were
involved in there or topsies of these beings
1145
01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:47.399
in multiple locations including Walter Reed Hospital. So again, what does the Vatican
1146
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:51.840
know about this? Danny had talked
about that this morning and thank you for
1147
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:57.840
bringing that up. What does the
Vatican know about this? Well, according
1148
01:32:57.880 --> 01:33:02.000
to page two hundred and one UFO
crash with absolutely they have a lot they
1149
01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:06.279
have a need to know. And
there's also mentioned a very brief mention of
1150
01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:12.800
something called the White Book, which
is allegedly mankind's historical interaction with its over
1151
01:33:12.840 --> 01:33:15.880
the past two thousand years. So
what would it look like if we took
1152
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:20.640
and we went inside the Vatican archives. This report says that at least one
1153
01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:26.119
et craft was recovered it may have
looked something like this, where you've got
1154
01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:31.000
the scrolls from the Library of Alexandria, You've got one craft there. There's
1155
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:35.279
no telling over thousands of years what
the Vatican has. You know, they've
1156
01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:40.560
got stuff that would just be incredible. So in this presentation, what I
1157
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:45.520
try to do is provide credible military
sources who have seen the debris, the
1158
01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:49.720
bodies, the craft, people who
had first hand knowledge of loading these craft
1159
01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:55.920
up onto eighteen wheel attractor trailers and
moving these to at least right patterns in
1160
01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:00.159
air force space. We absolutely want
to maintain an important part of our national
1161
01:34:00.239 --> 01:34:05.039
history. And I want to thank
you for your attention. And that's it
1162
01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:10.880
for the Paranormal Report. Hope you
enjoyed it as much as Joe Biden enjoys
1163
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:15.119
little nine year old boys and girls. And please don't forget to click on
1164
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:19.640
those links below. It's really great
to be here. My name is Christopher,
1165
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:25.039
your AI host for this episode.
Please don't forget to click on the
1166
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:29.880
links below, and welcome to the
Paranormal Report. Trump doesn't know it yet,
1167
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:34.079
but the forecast looks stormy today.
So we have about two hours and
1168
01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:40.000
I'm going to use it all up
so buckle up. I've got a lot
1169
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:44.880
to talk about. I don't know
where I want to start. Well,
1170
01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:49.680
I got slides. I can just
follow my slides, I suppose. But
1171
01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:55.079
you know, I think we're all
just in a state of amazement, I
1172
01:34:55.159 --> 01:35:00.560
mean absolute shock and amazement at where
this entire UFO culture and community and public
1173
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:04.960
discourse has gone in the last few
years. I can tell you for myself,
1174
01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:11.239
in you know, twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, not that long ago,
1175
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:15.359
I had not the slightest idea that
what we're living through would happen.
1176
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:18.880
And I'm not saying that we're coming
to disclosure, because I actually don't think
1177
01:35:18.920 --> 01:35:24.359
that we are. But we are
moving in a direction that's quite fascinating,
1178
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:29.840
and we want to pay close attention
because we're well, we're in a place
1179
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:33.600
that we've never been, and we're
going to places that we don't We're going
1180
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:39.600
to have a wild ride here.
So I've titled this disclosure Outlook where we
1181
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:44.760
are, what's missing and what's likely. First thing I guess I'll talk about
1182
01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:47.439
is a little bit of history.
That's what I do most of the time,
1183
01:35:48.439 --> 01:35:54.199
although actually I think a lot about
the future these days, and I'll
1184
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:58.920
have a few things to say about
that too. But I guess I think
1185
01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:02.199
about the past, and when I
look back on the passive eupology, I
1186
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:06.880
see I think that we may be
able to say that nineteen forty seven to
1187
01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:14.000
two thousand seventeen is a unit,
it's a it's a period that's got a
1188
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:18.199
sense of coherence to it. I'll
call it seventy years of denial. You
1189
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:24.720
start with Kenneth Arnold Roswell in nineteen
forty seven and ah, you know,
1190
01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:30.039
doing that entire period right up until
two thousand seventeen, if you were to
1191
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:33.640
ask the government about UFO truth and
what have you, the answer would be
1192
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:40.000
relatively the same throughout that entire period, which is that, Nope, there's
1193
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:45.359
nothing like that. We're not interested, we don't do that. There's you
1194
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:49.520
know, if you see something,
maybe you see an experimental something or other,
1195
01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:56.359
but you're not seeing aliens. There's
no evidence, et cetera, et
1196
01:36:56.439 --> 01:37:00.279
cetera. And I want to go
through a little bit of that history because,
1197
01:37:00.319 --> 01:37:05.119
frankly, in the conversations that we're
having these days, the history's just
1198
01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:13.039
been siphoned out. There's no history
in the conversation about uap Aka UFOs.
1199
01:37:13.439 --> 01:37:17.800
UFOs haven't been rebranded as UAP,
and that's okay, you want to rebrand
1200
01:37:17.840 --> 01:37:20.920
it, be my guests, but
at least don't take out the history.
1201
01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:26.560
So I just want to remind us
because we've, you know, those of
1202
01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:30.439
us in this community, all these
years, we've we've known the history,
1203
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:34.920
and now that the rest of the
world is hearing about UAP, they don't
1204
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:39.880
know any of the history and they're
not being told any of the history.
1205
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:45.119
But what happened starting in nineteen forty
seven is that this nation had a revolution,
1206
01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:50.079
national security revolution. Not our last. We had one in two thousand
1207
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:55.680
one, and we had won last
year, but in nineteen forty seven we
1208
01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:59.760
had a big one, and it
was a lot of things. It was
1209
01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:04.960
a organization of the national security establishment. So we got you know, CIA,
1210
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:10.000
we got an independent Air Force,
we got a National Security Council,
1211
01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:16.840
and on top of that, we
got deepened manipulation by the intelligence community of
1212
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:23.600
many many important institutions of this society, such as the media, something that
1213
01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:29.760
wasn't communication and cooperation before. But
in the nineteen forties and fifties it just
1214
01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:33.920
got crazy. So some of you've
heard of Operation Mockingbird and if you haven't,
1215
01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:39.840
you should know what that is.
But essentially that CIA getting its hooks
1216
01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:45.359
inside of all of American media and
not just influencing it, but often controlling
1217
01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:48.920
it, literally creating fake news.
Often. You know, if you want
1218
01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:54.800
to overthrow foreign governments, they go
out of model in nineteen fifty four.
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01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:59.319
You just plant fake stories in the
press, get people worked up, and
1220
01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:02.960
you justify your coup. And they
did that many times. We talk about
1221
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:09.159
fake news, Well, the biggest
purveyors of fake news is the United States
1222
01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:15.000
Intelligence community. They're the ones,
and they work through the big organizations,
1223
01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:18.479
of course, and they did it
back then, and that really took off
1224
01:39:18.479 --> 01:39:25.079
in a big way in the forties. Dido with academia. Forget that one
1225
01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:29.359
a lot. There was a good
book I read many years ago called Cloak
1226
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:34.600
and Gown by a historian named Robin
Winks. I believe he's gone, but
1227
01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:39.960
that was a good study of the
relationship of the CIA with Yale University,
1228
01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:44.960
kind of the revolving door of recruitment
out of Yale and of the Ivy League
1229
01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:49.560
in general. But it was far
far beyond that. There's a true revolving
1230
01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:55.920
door of the intelligence and national security
state with the world of the upper echelon
1231
01:39:56.000 --> 01:40:00.359
of academia. That's kind of important. There's a lot of influence there.
1232
01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:08.479
There's a lot of guard dogs and
watch dogs position strategically within those institutions to
1233
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:13.199
keep younger scholars in line if they
step out. And for many years,
1234
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:16.800
of course, that worked perfectly.
Within the u FO field. It was
1235
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:21.880
a Harvard astronomer, Donald Menzel,
the most prominent UFO debunker for a long
1236
01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:27.560
time. Look, if you were
some young academician back in those days and
1237
01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:31.119
you wanted to get out of line
and talk about this, Menzel would just
1238
01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:36.920
smack you down. Who's going to
fight a Harvard astronomer on UFOs? No
1239
01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:42.439
one. By the way. Menzel, of course, as we now know,
1240
01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:45.680
had deep connections to the n s
A. No one knew that at
1241
01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:51.000
the time. And you know,
control over politics, control over culture,
1242
01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:58.079
all of this got very very deep
in the nineteen forties and beyond. So
1243
01:40:58.199 --> 01:41:01.399
that was the revolution. And at
the same time, here's the thing.
1244
01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:06.600
The u f O phenomenon comes boom
right into the lapse of the world in
1245
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:12.079
the nineteen forties. But it didn't
come into a vacuum. It came into
1246
01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:16.239
a world in which the United States
had gone through this transformation into something that
1247
01:41:16.279 --> 01:41:20.800
it had never been before, which
is really a formal corporate empire. And
1248
01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:26.119
that's the group that had to handle
this problem. So what did they did?
1249
01:41:27.039 --> 01:41:30.920
They just denied, denied, denied. That's a New York Times piece
1250
01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:35.520
right after Roswell when they put that
whole thing to bed. So they're denying
1251
01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:40.760
u fos. But what was behind
the curtain? So I'm just going to
1252
01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:45.840
go through a couple a very small
number of quotations from my favorite part of
1253
01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:50.159
eupology, which are declassified to government
documents. That's what got me in and
1254
01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:55.520
beginning all those years ago, and
I still think we can't lose sight of
1255
01:41:55.560 --> 01:42:00.119
the important statements that were made back
in the early years. So this is
1256
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:05.640
actually from, you know, the
very famous statement by General Nathan Twining in
1257
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:12.119
September twenty third, nineteen forty seven. Twining was a three star general at
1258
01:42:12.119 --> 01:42:15.640
the time. He later became a
four star general in chief of Staff of
1259
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:19.640
the U. S. Air Force, And in nineteen forty seven, he's
1260
01:42:19.720 --> 01:42:26.159
answering a question from another general,
Charles Schulgen, who's saying, what about
1261
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:30.520
these flying discs? So these are
the things that I got to worry about
1262
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:34.720
or not. Is this something that
we're doing? What's the deal? General?
1263
01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:40.000
And Twining writes back a secret memo
to Schulgen, and he says a
1264
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:45.560
few things. One is the phenomenon
is something real and not visionary or fictitious.
1265
01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:49.640
Now that was classified at the time, but you imagine if that had
1266
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:55.079
gotten out to the public in nineteen
forty seven, when the Air Force is
1267
01:42:55.119 --> 01:43:00.800
playing this little game of pretend that
this is all fictitious hallucinations and so forth.
1268
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:05.560
But here's Twining saying, no,
it's real. Our reports are telling
1269
01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:12.359
us it's real. He describes in
these reports what military pilots and military personnel
1270
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:18.439
are reporting relating to these encounters and
describing extreme rates of climb, maneuverability,
1271
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:25.159
and action which must be considered evasive
when sighted. So they're intelligent and they've
1272
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:30.920
got extraordinary capabilities. Again we're talking
in nineteen forty seven. He goes on
1273
01:43:31.279 --> 01:43:38.039
metallic or light reflecting surface, so
they're getting good visuals of these things.
1274
01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:43.680
And my favorite circular or elliptical in
shape, flat on bottom and domed on
1275
01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:47.319
top. What in God's name is
going to be flat on bottom and domed
1276
01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:56.079
on top with incredible maneuverability in nineteen
forty seven evading US interceptors. Well that's
1277
01:43:56.079 --> 01:44:00.680
the question. Here's another document from
Kirtland Air Force Base nineteen forty nine,
1278
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:05.720
late January. Back at that time, there was something known as the Green
1279
01:44:05.800 --> 01:44:11.960
Fireball phenomenon. It was going well, not all throughout New Mexico, but
1280
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:17.279
I don't know north and south of
Albuquerque. This got the military and military
1281
01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:23.399
scientists extremely worked up, like to
the point I wouldn't say of panic,
1282
01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:29.159
but of let's say extreme concern.
These objects were coming in very very controlled,
1283
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:33.239
low, obviously maneuverable. No one
knew what the heck these things were.
1284
01:44:34.199 --> 01:44:40.720
And it prompted ongoing classified meetings of
high level military people and scientists.
1285
01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:45.079
And this one memos, this is
like one drop in the bucket, says
1286
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:50.520
sighting of identical objects talking about a
previous one by approximately thirty people. Estimate
1287
01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:56.840
at least one hundred total sightings at
that point. It goes on. By
1288
01:44:56.880 --> 01:45:00.760
the way, the AEC and the
AFSWP E were all nuclear, so the
1289
01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:05.600
ae C became the Department of Energy, an a f s w P was
1290
01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:14.319
what is that Armed Forces Special Weapons
Project, The Manhattan Project ended that became
1291
01:45:14.359 --> 01:45:19.279
this organization which was in charge of
all military control over nuclear technology. That's
1292
01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:25.479
basically what that was. They don't
exist now, so you've got a lot
1293
01:45:25.520 --> 01:45:30.239
of nuclear concern about this, and
you think about nukes in the late forties,
1294
01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:35.119
there was nothing more important in terms
of weapons and technology. In fact,
1295
01:45:35.279 --> 01:45:40.960
at this particular time, America still
had a monopoly of nuclear weapons,
1296
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:45.520
and Soviets were fast on the track
and they would get their first nuke detonated
1297
01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:50.000
later that year. But I guess
my point here is that these very important
1298
01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:56.800
organizations were perturbed. There's a good
word by the implications of the phenomena.
1299
01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:01.399
Well, you let your imagination run. Around the same time, an FBI
1300
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:05.880
was following this entire development in the
Southwest and was reporting on it as well.
1301
01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:11.800
And this is a long, long
memmo. It's a couple of pages
1302
01:46:11.840 --> 01:46:15.720
long. It gives a lot of
description of objects moving in multiple thousands of
1303
01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:21.960
miles per hour at high altitude,
great maneuverability. Again in nineteen forty nine,
1304
01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:28.760
here's just a statement where it says
this matter is considered top secret,
1305
01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:33.560
top secret by intelligence officers of both
the Army and the Air Force or air
1306
01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:40.399
forces. Back then, they sometimes
pluralized it, so again you get the
1307
01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:45.520
idea that's very, very significant.
This is a oh yeah, this is
1308
01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:49.760
a good interesting memo as well.
This is an Army memo describing some crazy
1309
01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:56.960
shenanigans over the Hanford Atomic Energy Commission
site. So Hanford, instead of Washington,
1310
01:46:57.279 --> 01:47:00.880
that was the first place in the
world where they were processing plutonium ever,
1311
01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:09.239
highly toxic, lots of nuclear waste. There's a mess. But this
1312
01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:14.520
is another place where there was tremendous
UFO activity and these people, no one
1313
01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:18.279
knew what to do about it.
So this is what it says. Since
1314
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:24.800
July thirtieth, objects round in form
have been cited over the Hanford AEC plant.
1315
01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:30.239
These objects were above fifteen thousand feet
in altitude. Listen to this part.
1316
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:36.880
Air Force jets attempted interception with negative
results. All units, including the
1317
01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:44.000
Anti Aircraft Battalion, radar units,
air Force fighter squadrons, and the FBI
1318
01:47:44.079 --> 01:47:48.960
have been alerted for further observation.
The Atomic Energy Commission states that the investigation
1319
01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:57.039
is continuing in complete details will be
forwarded later. Wow, Fighter squadrons.
1320
01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:01.319
Can you imagine if that memo had
gotten release accidentally or intentionally. In nineteen
1321
01:48:01.399 --> 01:48:09.079
fifteen of course all of these were
classified. No one knew about them.
1322
01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:14.199
And by the way that last statement, the investigation is continuing in further details
1323
01:48:14.239 --> 01:48:17.920
will be forwarded. Well, we
don't have any of that. It just
1324
01:48:18.039 --> 01:48:23.119
shows that, you know, freedom
of information is nice, but it's not
1325
01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:27.439
a magic bullet. And there's a
lot of documents that we've never gotten and
1326
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:32.840
probably will never ever get. They're
probably all destroyed. But yes, quite
1327
01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:39.920
significant and quite concerning for those people
running the show. This is a statement
1328
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:44.399
for my personal favorite document to quote
probably in all of the UFO literature.
1329
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:49.239
This is a CIA document. It
was written to the Director of the CIA
1330
01:48:49.399 --> 01:48:56.479
by his assistant Director of Scientific Intelligence
and named H. Marshall Chadwell. So
1331
01:48:56.560 --> 01:49:00.159
we're talking December nineteen fifty two,
after a big, big year of absolutely
1332
01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:08.079
just shocking UFO sightings civilian military.
It was just an incredible year. And
1333
01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:12.680
this is what Chadwell says to his
boss, CIA Director Walter Beadle Smith.
1334
01:49:13.680 --> 01:49:16.359
He says, at this time,
reports of incidents convince us that there is
1335
01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:23.039
something going on that must have immediate
attention. Sightings of unexplained objects at great
1336
01:49:23.039 --> 01:49:27.960
altitudes and traveling at high speeds in
the vicinity of major U S Defense installations
1337
01:49:28.960 --> 01:49:32.359
are of such nature that they are
not attributable to natural phenomena or known types
1338
01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:38.600
of aerial vehicles. What else is
he going to say, Boss, I
1339
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:43.000
think we're being invaded. I mean, it's pretty much putting it right out
1340
01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:47.479
there. And these are extreme levels
of concern you can see. And this
1341
01:49:47.640 --> 01:49:51.800
is just a smattering of the Foyer
documentation that has come down to us.
1342
01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:56.720
And by the way, I'll just
point out, you know, when these
1343
01:49:56.760 --> 01:50:00.760
documents were crafted back in those years, none of the authors of these documents
1344
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.479
had any idea of expectation that they
would one day be in the public domain.
1345
01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:09.960
The only reason that they did is
because we had the Freedom of Information
1346
01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:15.319
Act past years later. It was
originally passed in nineteen sixty six, but
1347
01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:18.840
without the teeth that it needed for
us. So it really got those teeth
1348
01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:24.439
at the very end of Richard Nixon's
presidency, right before he went out.
1349
01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:30.439
Watergate of course took them down,
but at the very end Congress Nixon signed
1350
01:50:30.439 --> 01:50:35.359
it strengthened the Freedom of Information Act. And what happened as a result of
1351
01:50:35.399 --> 01:50:42.039
that was simply I don't think they
expected this, but UFO researchers went charging
1352
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:46.000
full speed ahead. They were out
in front of everyone else doing Foyer requests
1353
01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:51.680
in the seventies. That's the truth. And thousands and thousands of pages of
1354
01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:57.560
documents. It's like shake the tree
and see what falls out. And a
1355
01:50:57.600 --> 01:51:00.800
lot of documents came out, and
this was one of the ones that weave.
1356
01:51:01.079 --> 01:51:04.840
I've just showed you or some of
them, but there's many others.
1357
01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:09.399
So I want to talk about a
little bit more of the history before we
1358
01:51:09.479 --> 01:51:14.159
get into the present moment. And
this is one of my personal UFO heroes.
1359
01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:19.079
That's Leonard Stringfield. I never had
the pleasure to meet Leonard Stringfield.
1360
01:51:20.039 --> 01:51:25.479
He died in nineteen ninety four,
just so now I was getting started in
1361
01:51:25.560 --> 01:51:30.640
researching this subject. But he was
an amazing, amazing human being, and
1362
01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:35.239
we are all lucky to have had
him. Why Because it was Leonard Stringfield
1363
01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:41.600
more than anybody else, even more
than Stanton Friedman, who was very important,
1364
01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:45.000
but Stringfield more than anyone, who
opened up the entire subject of acquired
1365
01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:50.479
exotic i e. Alien technology.
And actually, before I get into it,
1366
01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:59.079
I'll just explain it's a Stringfield who
a little dizzy there. Stringfield was.
1367
01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:02.239
Let's see, let's talk about him. He was in the Second World
1368
01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:06.479
War. In fact, he had
a UFO sighting at the end of the
1369
01:52:06.520 --> 01:52:12.760
Second World War in the Pacific that
was kind of interesting. He was a
1370
01:52:12.920 --> 01:52:16.520
UFO investigator going back to the nineteen
fifties, but he really hit his stride
1371
01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:21.640
in the nineteen seventies and eighties.
He lived in Cincinnati, Ohio, not
1372
01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:28.159
too far from Air Force Headquarters in
Dayton. So Stringfield was the perfect person
1373
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:31.760
to do what he did. He
was in the right location, he had
1374
01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:38.960
the military backgrounds, the military people
trusted him to a large extent. He
1375
01:52:39.119 --> 01:52:43.359
was just a decent human being.
He was very likable, and he was
1376
01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:48.439
very meticulous. He had obvious integrity, and so people started to come to
1377
01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:53.399
him. But they started to do
that because in nineteen seventy six we had
1378
01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:58.560
a presidential candidate named Jimmy Carter,
and Jimmy Carter was unique in that he
1379
01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:01.000
was the first presidential camp to admit
that he'd seen the u f O.
1380
01:53:02.079 --> 01:53:05.600
It was very shocking at the time. And he was governor of Georgia back
1381
01:53:05.640 --> 01:53:11.239
in nineteen sixty nine with a group
of people and they saw something. It
1382
01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:16.039
was quite unusual. And Carter,
by the way, he's never stated I
1383
01:53:16.159 --> 01:53:20.319
know it was an alien craft.
He's never given an opinion on that,
1384
01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:26.319
but it was interesting, and he
even filed a report to Nickap the u
1385
01:53:26.359 --> 01:53:30.560
f O group. So because of
that, a number of people got kind
1386
01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:34.399
of excited, and Carter was asked
at one point when he was running,
1387
01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:39.760
will you open up the u f
O files? And Carter's answer was,
1388
01:53:40.159 --> 01:53:45.039
well, yes, I mean,
as long as it doesn't harm national security,
1389
01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:47.720
but I will do everything that I
can. And that was kind of
1390
01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:51.920
an amazing thing to hear at that
time. And so there was this hope
1391
01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:57.800
among many people that Jimmy Carter would
be the disclosure president, not that any
1392
01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:01.119
one was using that term back then. They weren't, but that's really what
1393
01:54:01.159 --> 01:54:06.079
they were hoping for. So in
that context, Stringfield wrote a book in
1394
01:54:06.119 --> 01:54:10.319
which he had one sliver of the
book toward the end where he talked about
1395
01:54:10.399 --> 01:54:15.359
something u f O researchers never did, well, hardly ever did, which
1396
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:18.960
was a couple of interesting crash retrieval
events, and he put it in there.
1397
01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:25.119
And because of that, and because
of the Carter phenomenon, Stringfield started
1398
01:54:25.159 --> 01:54:30.239
getting people coming up to him with
the expectation that, well, the president's
1399
01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:32.520
going to come out and make an
announcement sometime, so we're just going to
1400
01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:36.520
tell you what we know. And
he collected five, and then ten,
1401
01:54:36.840 --> 01:54:41.640
and then twenty, and then like
a hundred different accounts or more of different
1402
01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:46.319
aspects of u f O crash retrieval. Stringfield was like this amazing clearing house
1403
01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:51.840
of these events, of these stories, and this is just some this is
1404
01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:57.039
a small amount. I'm not even
going to read through these, but the
1405
01:54:57.079 --> 01:55:00.920
basic pattern is, you know,
one person would say, y, yeah,
1406
01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:04.920
I did a security detail at Wright
Patterson back in nineteen sixty six whatever,
1407
01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:10.520
and I for a brief period,
I had to guard nine bodies that
1408
01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:15.520
sure looked like tiny little aliens.
Or maybe a wife would say yes,
1409
01:55:15.840 --> 01:55:19.359
when my husband was alive, he
told me about this particular crash retrieval event
1410
01:55:19.439 --> 01:55:24.159
that he had known about. Or
someone else would come up, and there
1411
01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:29.159
were a lot of people doing security
details that came to Stringfield. One guy
1412
01:55:29.239 --> 01:55:31.600
actually came up with an early version
of almost what you could say an alien
1413
01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:36.560
autopsy. Thing wasn't an autopsy,
but he had worked at Fort Monmouth,
1414
01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:43.119
New Jersey in nineteen fifty three.
He came up to Stringfield said yeah,
1415
01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:46.199
back then I was I was pulled
into a military theater and I had to
1416
01:55:46.239 --> 01:55:49.960
sit down and I watched this film
where there's like this desert scene and there's
1417
01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:54.560
a tent and there's all these people
running around, and inside the tent are
1418
01:55:54.600 --> 01:55:58.920
these dead aliens. And we're watching
this for a little while, and the
1419
01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:01.319
lights in the movie theater went up
and we all told to get out.
1420
01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:05.600
Two weeks later, an officer came
up to me on the base and said,
1421
01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:10.680
that film you saw, forget it. It was a hoax and this
1422
01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:15.000
guy never knew what that was about. Strange. I wonder if he failed
1423
01:56:15.039 --> 01:56:20.239
a recruitment, you know, you
really wonder. I mean, if you're
1424
01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:25.479
running a UFO retrieval program, you're
looking for new people, you may have
1425
01:56:25.560 --> 01:56:30.039
to examine them and see how they
react to extreme situations and information. Maybe
1426
01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:34.760
this guy failed the test. In
any case, lots and lots and lots
1427
01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:40.560
of these stories and Stringfield just collected
them all. I'm going to tell you
1428
01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:45.680
detail on two of them. This
is one the Blue Room, the rumors
1429
01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:49.439
of the Blue Room at Wright Patterson
Air Force Base. But this wasn't at
1430
01:56:49.479 --> 01:56:56.800
right path. I don't know where
this was somewhere in the southwest. So
1431
01:56:57.239 --> 01:57:00.479
the story is Stringfield, and he
had a very good source on this,
1432
01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:06.560
he wrote, he was very confident
of this source. So okay, when
1433
01:57:06.560 --> 01:57:12.039
he learned of that. There was
a military guy with high scientific qualifications who
1434
01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:15.920
was told, get into this airplane, were taking you somewhere, gets a
1435
01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:19.359
hood put on his head. All
these other guys they'll have hoods put on
1436
01:57:19.439 --> 01:57:26.399
their faces. They can't see where
they're going. They're let out. They
1437
01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:30.479
go there, it's hot desert sand. He could make that part out.
1438
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:35.960
And they're being brought into a large, very large hangar. They take the
1439
01:57:35.960 --> 01:57:41.640
hoods off there inside, and everything
inside the hangar is painted blue, like
1440
01:57:41.680 --> 01:57:46.520
the walls, the floors, ceiling, everything is blue. And there's tables
1441
01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:51.960
and cabinets, shelves everywhere, and
on the shelves in such are artifacts which
1442
01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:57.479
are not blue. I think they
probably painted the room blue so you could
1443
01:57:57.520 --> 01:58:03.640
just not lose anything. Like everything's
easily visible anyway, thousands of artifacts,
1444
01:58:03.960 --> 01:58:09.600
very exotic, and they were told, you know, just read this,
1445
01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:14.720
this is Stringfield writing. They were
to study each object and determine its purpose,
1446
01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.720
operating parameters, and whether or not
it could be duplicated. So this
1447
01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:23.680
guy is conversing with the curator.
I guess we could say of this hangar,
1448
01:58:24.680 --> 01:58:27.680
and he and a few other gentlemen
are brought to a back room where
1449
01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:31.279
there are four tanks, like huge
aquarium tanks with this pink liquid, and
1450
01:58:31.359 --> 01:58:39.199
in the liquid suspended alien beings small
look like gray aliens. This is what
1451
01:58:39.279 --> 01:58:44.199
he said. That's his story.
Now, I mean, we were not
1452
01:58:44.239 --> 01:58:47.680
there to get this story, but
Stringfield found it credible. It's just,
1453
01:58:47.960 --> 01:58:51.760
you know, another drop in the
bucket, throw it in the pile.
1454
01:58:53.760 --> 01:58:57.399
The other one I just want to
mention for Stringfield is his account of doctor
1455
01:58:57.680 --> 01:59:01.000
X. So one of Stringfield's people
was a doctor who worked at a large
1456
01:59:01.039 --> 01:59:05.720
medical establishment on the east coast of
the United States, and he got to
1457
01:59:05.760 --> 01:59:11.079
know this guy pretty well in person, in fact, including at the man's
1458
01:59:11.119 --> 01:59:15.039
place of work. This is a
very good relationship that Leonard Stringfield had with
1459
01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:19.520
this man, and he obviously knew
his name and so forth, but he
1460
01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:25.640
called him doctor X to protect his
identity. And this doctor told Stringfield that
1461
01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:30.359
he had performed autopsies or autopsy like
procedures on alien bodies, and he wrote
1462
01:59:30.359 --> 01:59:36.560
a report and he summarized the physiology
of these beings describing them almost exactly as
1463
01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:42.520
you would describe a gray alien.
About four feet tall, very light weight,
1464
01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:47.640
big heads and so forth, heavy
brow ridges. One thing that doesn't
1465
01:59:47.680 --> 01:59:50.880
quite stand out when you think of
a gray alien. But I don't know
1466
01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:55.880
what to make of that. But
there have been variations that have been described
1467
01:59:55.880 --> 02:00:00.279
of alien beings, and not all
exact identical grays. And there are variations.
1468
02:00:00.479 --> 02:00:06.800
And that's what this doctor apparently saw. No reproductive organs. He suspected
1469
02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:13.279
they were at android's artificial creations of
some sort or another. And then actually,
1470
02:00:13.319 --> 02:00:15.560
after Stringfield and his doctor got to
know each other a bit, the
1471
02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:20.880
doctor broke off all communication and just
as last thing the Stringfield was, he
1472
02:00:20.960 --> 02:00:26.239
said, can't talk to you anymore. The higher ups found that, but
1473
02:00:26.319 --> 02:00:31.159
I'm discussing this with you, and
I got my knuckles smacked basically some disciplinary
1474
02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:36.720
action and he had to stop.
So there you go. Yes, this
1475
02:00:38.000 --> 02:00:42.119
is, if you really want to
read, an amazing, amazing UFO publication.
1476
02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:47.319
That is Leonard Stringfield seven Collected Status
Reports, that's what he called them.
1477
02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:50.800
You know, when he was writing
these back in the seventies and eighties
1478
02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:56.920
and the early nineties, I think
there's almost no circulation. The tiny little
1479
02:00:56.920 --> 02:01:00.279
move on UFO community may probably sold
a couple of hundred copies of each one
1480
02:01:00.319 --> 02:01:05.880
of these. They're incredible, so
someone put them all together as a big,
1481
02:01:05.920 --> 02:01:11.319
fat book. It's almost four hundred
pages, eight and a half by
1482
02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:17.199
eleven. It's very large. It's
eighty dollars on Amazon. It's not cheap,
1483
02:01:17.359 --> 02:01:20.760
but I will tell you, if
you are actually interested in this information,
1484
02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:26.640
it is absolutely worth every penny.
It's not available as an ebook,
1485
02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:30.640
unfortunately, it would be nice,
but it is a big paperback and I
1486
02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:34.800
can tell you I've gone through it
over and over and over again. It's
1487
02:01:34.840 --> 02:01:41.680
incredible, and I'm glad that someone
put that all together. So okay,
1488
02:01:42.680 --> 02:01:45.760
I'm not going to do any more
history. What we can say though,
1489
02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:50.000
of that seventy year period that I
was talking about up to twenty seventeen is,
1490
02:01:50.359 --> 02:01:57.159
you know, we can what did
UFO researchers conclude it generally speaking about
1491
02:01:57.159 --> 02:02:00.600
this subject, Well, I would
say the inclusion is it's real and they're
1492
02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:05.439
here, whoever they are. Is
we can get into that. We can
1493
02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:11.199
say that there were countless large numbers
of military engagements throughout the decades, and
1494
02:02:11.319 --> 02:02:16.720
not just the United States, every
nation, every nation with significant military has
1495
02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:21.640
had these encounters all over the world, and even more well attested, well
1496
02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:29.760
documented accounts by ordinary people, and
many of them were incredibly well documented slam
1497
02:02:29.840 --> 02:02:34.840
dunk cases many of them. We
can also say that there were crash retrievals,
1498
02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:40.039
and let's say, other types of
acquisition of UFO tech, because they
1499
02:02:40.039 --> 02:02:45.640
may not necessarily evolve in crash retrievals. It's not necessarily clear. You get
1500
02:02:45.720 --> 02:02:49.359
hints every now and then that there
were other methods of acquiring these things,
1501
02:02:49.600 --> 02:02:56.239
and I don't know the exact specifics, but it's a possibility. We can
1502
02:02:56.319 --> 02:03:00.640
definitely say, and there's been myself
among other people have looked into the secrecy
1503
02:03:00.680 --> 02:03:03.960
around this, and certainly we can
say that it was massive and deep.
1504
02:03:04.399 --> 02:03:09.920
Labyrinthian is a word I like to
use to describe it. We can say
1505
02:03:09.960 --> 02:03:14.399
that there have been abductions, yes, I think absolutely. We can say
1506
02:03:14.399 --> 02:03:18.079
that, as well as other forms
of encounters with these beings. We can
1507
02:03:18.079 --> 02:03:24.439
say that whoever they are, they're
everywhere. They are everywhere, And this
1508
02:03:24.600 --> 02:03:28.279
is again something that I don't hear
a lot about in the UFO research field.
1509
02:03:29.319 --> 02:03:32.000
In other words, no one seems
to care about citing reports anymore.
1510
02:03:33.000 --> 02:03:36.560
Everyone's like, ah, you know, we've been there and done that.
1511
02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:43.399
Yeah, we know that they're here. Who needs to look at citing reports?
1512
02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:46.399
Well, here's where you've got to
look at citing reports, because if
1513
02:03:46.439 --> 02:03:50.399
you study them, here's one thing
you learn. You learn that there are
1514
02:03:50.439 --> 02:03:56.560
thousands upon thousands of pretty decent sightings
recorded every single year around the world and
1515
02:03:56.640 --> 02:04:00.479
in your neighborhood, probably over your
house at two or three in the morning.
1516
02:04:00.439 --> 02:04:05.279
You taking a selfie. Here,
look at the shameless So have you
1517
02:04:05.359 --> 02:04:11.359
no shame? That was fun.
That was a line, by the way,
1518
02:04:11.600 --> 02:04:15.880
I took from the McCarthy hearings.
If any of you are onto that,
1519
02:04:15.880 --> 02:04:19.159
that was the line that took Senator
Joe McCarthy down. Have you no
1520
02:04:19.279 --> 02:04:26.079
shame? Sir? So? Where
was I? Oh? Yeah, yeah.
1521
02:04:26.479 --> 02:04:29.600
So, Like, here's the thing
that blows my mind when I think
1522
02:04:29.640 --> 02:04:35.279
about these sightings. They're over your
house, your house at three in the
1523
02:04:35.319 --> 02:04:40.920
morning. You know, you go
to the National UFO Reporting Center, you
1524
02:04:40.960 --> 02:04:45.680
can read the reports there. One
place that is still going our filers files,
1525
02:04:46.239 --> 02:04:50.760
George Fyler. God blessed that man. We still have him and he
1526
02:04:50.840 --> 02:04:57.479
still puts out these incredible summations and
reports of UFO activity. He's a great
1527
02:04:57.560 --> 02:05:01.920
guy. Anyway you can find like
people will report the same thing over and
1528
02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:08.119
over. It's two in the morning, could sleep. I go outside,
1529
02:05:08.359 --> 02:05:12.960
have a cigarette. I'm looking at
the stars and I see this low black
1530
02:05:13.000 --> 02:05:19.920
triangle, not always a triangle,
saucer shaped object whatever, five hundred feet
1531
02:05:19.920 --> 02:05:26.520
over the houses, just gliding almost
couldn't see it, Like, what is
1532
02:05:26.560 --> 02:05:31.479
that? You go through this and
you see this many times someone is skulking
1533
02:05:31.520 --> 02:05:36.079
about around the world. This isn't
just you know, you're not your stats
1534
02:05:36.079 --> 02:05:43.359
are in North America, it's everywhere. So what is that? Who's doing
1535
02:05:43.399 --> 02:05:48.119
that? Is that a black budget, classified special access program? Well,
1536
02:05:48.279 --> 02:05:54.199
if so, they're doing a worldwide
operation over your house. And I don't
1537
02:05:54.199 --> 02:05:59.239
know anything about that, but clearly
it indicates to me that we're talking big
1538
02:05:59.279 --> 02:06:04.079
infrastructure, lots of money or the
equivalent of money, and serious intent and
1539
02:06:04.199 --> 02:06:12.239
also an extreme commitment to secrecy and
clandestine activity. And I just there's only
1540
02:06:12.279 --> 02:06:15.520
one thing that I may be personally
to think about what they could be doing
1541
02:06:15.560 --> 02:06:18.760
at three in the morning over your
house, which is an abduction. I
1542
02:06:18.800 --> 02:06:25.720
can't think of anything else going over
residential neighborhoods, well, I mean,
1543
02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:30.039
they're doing other things than that,
but that's one thing that they're doing seemingly
1544
02:06:30.119 --> 02:06:34.279
all the time. That's another thing
I think researchers are. And then the
1545
02:06:34.359 --> 02:06:40.199
last thing I have on this list
is is a breakaway science or breakaway civilization.
1546
02:06:41.239 --> 02:06:44.119
And that's a phrase that I coined
in one of my books over a
1547
02:06:44.159 --> 02:06:47.520
decade ago, and just a theory
that I worked out of extreme levels of
1548
02:06:47.560 --> 02:06:54.279
secrecy. What happens if you've got
a classified program that's got some scientific breakthroughs
1549
02:06:54.760 --> 02:06:57.680
and you don't want to share the
breakthroughs with the rest of the world,
1550
02:06:58.680 --> 02:07:01.600
Well, you wouldn't stop your scientists
from continuing on with that. If they've
1551
02:07:01.640 --> 02:07:06.720
developed some kind of antigrab or some
kind of new energy system or some other
1552
02:07:06.840 --> 02:07:12.920
exotic world shaking, world changing technology, You're not just going to let that
1553
02:07:13.000 --> 02:07:17.640
loose, no way. You're also
going to have your scientists in the classified
1554
02:07:17.680 --> 02:07:24.800
world continue that, and they eventually
end up developing their own cosmology perhaps and
1555
02:07:24.880 --> 02:07:28.479
maybe their own replicas that can take
them off world and learn things that the
1556
02:07:28.520 --> 02:07:32.319
rest of us, poor slob stuff
down on the planet are never going to
1557
02:07:32.319 --> 02:07:36.520
get a chance to learn unless we
find a way out. So anyway,
1558
02:07:36.680 --> 02:07:41.039
this list, I don't know there's
more that I could add in here,
1559
02:07:41.319 --> 02:07:45.720
but I would say that at least
in the UFO research field through twenty seventeen
1560
02:07:46.079 --> 02:07:50.600
through today, really these are some
pretty good conclusions that I think are generally
1561
02:07:50.640 --> 02:07:55.800
well agreed on. And all that
time, all that time, all of
1562
02:07:55.840 --> 02:08:03.000
those conclusions were ignored, completely ignored
by the establishment controlled culture, establishment controlled
1563
02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:07.880
media. You couldn't have a conversation
about this with any level of maturity or
1564
02:08:07.920 --> 02:08:13.039
sophistication because you just get shut down. And yet this unbelievable discrepancy existed.
1565
02:08:15.039 --> 02:08:18.399
You talk about signs of a sick
society. You know, you have the
1566
02:08:18.439 --> 02:08:24.560
most important thing going on, like
what's more important than the arrival of some
1567
02:08:24.680 --> 02:08:28.000
intelligence that so far beyond anything we're
supposed to have, and you can't talk
1568
02:08:28.039 --> 02:08:33.880
about it. And furthermore, people
would experience this, usually on their own,
1569
02:08:33.199 --> 02:08:39.359
totally isolated, because you know,
I have ridicule, And so now
1570
02:08:39.399 --> 02:08:43.079
you experience this either trauma or sometimes
elation or whatever. It is the most
1571
02:08:43.119 --> 02:08:48.520
amazing thing you ever see in your
life. And you talk about this too,
1572
02:08:48.680 --> 02:08:52.880
no one much of the time,
or maybe a couple of friends and
1573
02:08:54.000 --> 02:08:58.560
one of the typical things you find
with UFO sidings is people have these extraordinary
1574
02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:01.840
events happening to them and they don't
talk about it, and they just tuck
1575
02:09:01.880 --> 02:09:07.279
it away in a little back of
their mind and they forget about it themselves
1576
02:09:07.279 --> 02:09:11.520
sometimes because they don't have to process
it because it just like blows their paradigm,
1577
02:09:11.800 --> 02:09:16.880
their reality right out of the water. That's a trauma to me,
1578
02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:22.439
Like that's bad for us. And
it's also bad because when you have this
1579
02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:26.399
incredible thing happening, I think the
worst way to deal with it is everyone's
1580
02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:30.119
in their own little private Idaho that
can't talk to each other, were atomized.
1581
02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:33.680
That's not a good way to do
this, it seems to me.
1582
02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:37.239
But we have an official culture that
is so tightly controlled that we were not
1583
02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:43.680
able to do it. But in
two thousand seventeen it seemed it seems that
1584
02:09:43.159 --> 02:09:48.960
well, let's call it a breakthrough, certainly a significant change. And that
1585
02:09:50.279 --> 02:09:54.760
was, of course December sixteenth,
two thousand seventeen, and you get two
1586
02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:58.720
articles in the New York Times,
which is, you know, the Pravda
1587
02:09:58.760 --> 02:10:03.680
of the the United States, like
the official mouthpiece of the established powers of
1588
02:10:03.720 --> 02:10:09.000
the bee. They put out too
actually decent, like not embarrassing articles on
1589
02:10:09.199 --> 02:10:16.560
UFOs and of course one in Politico
by Brian Bender, and those three articles
1590
02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:20.960
came out, and what did they
do? They said to the world,
1591
02:10:20.199 --> 02:10:24.920
Yeah, actually the Pentagon did have
a UFO study program quite recently called a
1592
02:10:26.039 --> 02:10:31.159
TIP. And all of us in
the UFO field were like, what I
1593
02:10:31.279 --> 02:10:35.439
mean, we were partly elated and
feeling vindicated, and partly I think we
1594
02:10:35.439 --> 02:10:39.680
were just annoyed at, you know, being lied to for all those years.
1595
02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:45.199
But at least the lie came out. I mean, honestly, a
1596
02:10:45.319 --> 02:10:48.720
TIP is aptly named the acronym's app
because it's the tip of a massive iceberg.
1597
02:10:48.960 --> 02:10:54.520
Of course, I mean they're talking
about, Yeah, we spent twenty
1598
02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:58.840
two million dollars on a TIP for
those years. That's like probably the Pentagon
1599
02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:05.000
spent more money on coffee than twenty
two million dollars. Anyway, it was
1600
02:11:05.119 --> 02:11:07.840
nice to know that they did that, and it was an admission, it
1601
02:11:07.920 --> 02:11:13.199
was an important admission. And then
the other article that came out at that
1602
02:11:13.359 --> 02:11:16.920
time, of course, was the
tic TAC encounter, and we learned about
1603
02:11:16.960 --> 02:11:22.439
Commander David Traver and that extraordinary event. And it is extraordinary, you know,
1604
02:11:22.880 --> 02:11:28.359
it's not the most extraordinary UFO encounter
actually, but it's a good one
1605
02:11:28.600 --> 02:11:33.479
and it's very well attested, so
it's definitely now we could say historically strong
1606
02:11:33.600 --> 02:11:39.840
UFO encounter. So that was the
breakthrough. And so what I want to
1607
02:11:39.920 --> 02:11:43.760
run by you here is that since
the end of twenty seventeen, we have
1608
02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:48.720
had in the last three and a
half years an extraordinary number of like headline
1609
02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:56.199
bombshells relating to UFOs that we'd never
had anything like this before twenty seventeen,
1610
02:11:56.239 --> 02:12:01.279
and now we had like, there's
like twenty of them here basically. So
1611
02:12:01.680 --> 02:12:07.079
you know, starting in October twenty
seventeen, you've got the TTSA press conference.
1612
02:12:09.119 --> 02:12:13.760
I really kicked the whole thing off, and that was quite significant.
1613
02:12:13.479 --> 02:12:18.199
Yeah, they had the mylar balloon
thing. They made their mistakes, but
1614
02:12:18.319 --> 02:12:24.439
you have a significant group of individuals, very impressive backgrounds. They went on
1615
02:12:24.479 --> 02:12:28.119
the record and no one said the
word UFO, but it was all about
1616
02:12:28.239 --> 02:12:33.359
UFOs. No one was saying,
oh, UFOs are real, but what
1617
02:12:33.399 --> 02:12:37.640
they were saying is UFOs are real. That was a TTA press conference,
1618
02:12:39.680 --> 02:12:43.600
and as a result of that,
you get Leslie Kane and Ralph Blumenthal and
1619
02:12:43.640 --> 02:12:48.439
Helene Cooper for the New York Times
doing the articles two months later. My
1620
02:12:48.600 --> 02:12:52.000
take on that is really all Leslie
and Ralph. I'll talk about that in
1621
02:12:52.000 --> 02:12:56.079
a minute. But they put their
articles out, then you get the release
1622
02:12:56.159 --> 02:13:01.640
of the thirty eight titles of the
scientific papers from the ate it program.
1623
02:13:01.920 --> 02:13:05.239
That's all how p ud o f
F. That's a fascinating thing. Not
1624
02:13:05.359 --> 02:13:09.159
ever let time to get into it
here. And then all these other p
1625
02:13:09.319 --> 02:13:13.880
U do O f F talking on
the metamterial in June of twenty eighteen.
1626
02:13:13.199 --> 02:13:18.199
Oh god, that was unbelievable.
If you're not familiar with that, look
1627
02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:24.000
it up on vimeo. It's a
heck of a lecture. How was shocked
1628
02:13:24.000 --> 02:13:28.359
that it was on Vimeo. I
think I told him. He's like,
1629
02:13:28.640 --> 02:13:33.960
oh wow, what do you do? So there was this artifact that's called
1630
02:13:33.960 --> 02:13:39.239
the meta Material, and it's kind
of amazing. Came to art Belle many
1631
02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:43.560
years ago in the nineties. Linda
Moulton how curated it for a long time.
1632
02:13:45.600 --> 02:13:48.720
She sent it out to different people, including how p U do O
1633
02:13:48.920 --> 02:13:52.560
f F and others, and they
studied it. And what he was saying
1634
02:13:52.600 --> 02:13:56.560
at this lecture was this thing is
manufactured in a way that we have no
1635
02:13:56.720 --> 02:14:01.079
idea how any one could have done
it. You're talking nano level layers of
1636
02:14:01.079 --> 02:14:05.840
bismuth and magnesium in such a way. He said, you know, when
1637
02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:09.239
we first looked at this, we
had no idea what this could even be
1638
02:14:09.359 --> 02:14:15.000
for. And he said, but
you know, time passes and we kind
1639
02:14:15.000 --> 02:14:18.279
of figured a few things out.
And he described it as I don't know
1640
02:14:18.359 --> 02:14:24.880
what you say, as a highly
effective wave guide for high frequency radiation electromagnetic
1641
02:14:24.960 --> 02:14:28.520
radiation terahertz range, I think,
he said, And I was like,
1642
02:14:28.760 --> 02:14:33.079
what the hell does that mean?
How to look it up? So a
1643
02:14:33.119 --> 02:14:37.760
wave guide means like a canal is
a wave guide for water, So this
1644
02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:43.880
is a wave guide for high frequency
radiation. I think light, Maybe I'm
1645
02:14:43.880 --> 02:14:48.039
getting it wrong. Then I listened
to a lecture by or interview by Jack
1646
02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:54.079
Sarfaddi, who's kind of a crazy
genius in my opinion, and he's talking
1647
02:14:54.119 --> 02:14:56.880
about this metamterial and his take on
it was quite interesting in my opinion,
1648
02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:01.479
and he said, yeah, what
I think is that this the lattice like
1649
02:15:01.520 --> 02:15:05.800
structure in the meta material, which
no one knows how to manufacture yet because
1650
02:15:05.800 --> 02:15:13.239
we don't have the capability. We
don't we don't we're not down at them.
1651
02:15:13.319 --> 02:15:16.159
We're not down at the Angstrom level
when we make these things. But
1652
02:15:16.279 --> 02:15:20.720
anyway, he said, what I
think that this does is it slows the
1653
02:15:20.720 --> 02:15:24.359
speed of light down. And I
couldn't explain the math that crunched the numbers
1654
02:15:24.359 --> 02:15:28.560
for you and tell you why,
but that's his opinion. And so if
1655
02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:33.319
you slow the speed of light down, then you're changing all the equations of
1656
02:15:33.359 --> 02:15:37.479
the amount of energy necessary to soften
the space time bubble around the craft.
1657
02:15:37.520 --> 02:15:41.560
So what he I think he was
saying is that this material the skin of
1658
02:15:41.560 --> 02:15:46.359
the craft can make it much easier
for you too to create a kind of
1659
02:15:46.359 --> 02:15:50.520
space time bubble around you. So
that well, that's that's what you get,
1660
02:15:50.680 --> 02:15:56.920
you know, the warp field equations
from you know, Miguel Acubier thirty
1661
02:15:56.000 --> 02:16:01.640
years ago came up with the math
for warp speed like on Trek. The
1662
02:16:01.720 --> 02:16:05.880
only problem is to create that space
time bubble, the amount of energy needed
1663
02:16:05.960 --> 02:16:09.920
to be like more energy than exists. It's too much. But if you
1664
02:16:11.079 --> 02:16:15.479
change the equation, you slow light
down. According to Sarfati, he said,
1665
02:16:15.760 --> 02:16:18.039
yeah, maybe a triple a battery
would be enough energy to do that.
1666
02:16:20.159 --> 02:16:24.880
You know, anyway, I'm getting
off track here, all the bombshells,
1667
02:16:24.079 --> 02:16:28.520
all of this stuff is just amazing. New York Times comes out in
1668
02:16:28.600 --> 02:16:33.680
May two thoy nineteen with another article
by Leslie and Ralph on the U S
1669
02:16:33.760 --> 02:16:39.079
s. Roosevelt. That's heavy duty. That's there. I think their best
1670
02:16:39.159 --> 02:16:43.760
article that they did for The Times. That's my opinion. Navy makes an
1671
02:16:43.760 --> 02:16:48.399
admission saying, yeah, we do
get these UAP, these UFOs, and
1672
02:16:48.479 --> 02:16:52.000
we've just updated our guidelines for dealing
with them. Can you imagine if that
1673
02:16:52.079 --> 02:16:56.719
had been said ten years ago or
twenty years ago, world would be flipping
1674
02:16:56.760 --> 02:17:01.719
out. We would have something change. We're not flipping out. I mean,
1675
02:17:03.040 --> 02:17:07.280
it's interesting. And then Elizando goes
on Tucker Carlson on May thirty first,
1676
02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:13.360
twenty nineteen that just blew my mind. You know. Carlson at the
1677
02:17:13.440 --> 02:17:18.120
end says, have we gotten any
of these craft at all? And Eleizando
1678
02:17:18.319 --> 02:17:22.399
is at first saying, well,
you know, Tucker, my NDAs prevent
1679
02:17:22.479 --> 02:17:31.040
me from saying anything. Pause,
but yes, end of interview. What
1680
02:17:31.280 --> 02:17:35.760
he just said. There were crash
retrievals and acquired exotic tech on national TV
1681
02:17:37.840 --> 02:17:41.440
and no one said anything about it
after the fact, Like, my god,
1682
02:17:41.680 --> 02:17:46.319
let's talk about a bombshell. A
week after that, the Wilson Davis
1683
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:52.200
notes leaked out. I was part
of that whole thing. And yes,
1684
02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:56.239
it is criminal negligence by the rest
of the u FO community that they do
1685
02:17:56.319 --> 02:18:01.440
not examine these documents the way they
show. Absolutely, I can't understand it.
1686
02:18:03.520 --> 02:18:07.559
Some of you don't know what I'm
talking about. So very very very
1687
02:18:07.600 --> 02:18:13.079
brief summary. Back in nineteen ninety
seven, Stephen Greer was making rounds in
1688
02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:18.840
Washington, d C. He had
doctor edgar Mitchell with him, Navy Commander
1689
02:18:18.879 --> 02:18:24.760
Will Miller, and other people,
and he's talking to anyone I think who's
1690
02:18:24.760 --> 02:18:30.479
willing to listen about deep black special
access programs in which alien tech was being
1691
02:18:30.520 --> 02:18:35.959
reverse engineered, and he had information
about it. Turns out he was dead
1692
02:18:35.079 --> 02:18:41.239
right. He was absolutely right.
So they had a meeting with the Deputy
1693
02:18:41.319 --> 02:18:45.559
Chief of Intelligence for the Joint chiefs
of Staff, Admiral Thomas Ray Wilson.
1694
02:18:46.479 --> 02:18:50.280
They actually get to meet with him, and Wilson's boss too, was there,
1695
02:18:52.239 --> 02:18:56.079
and they're all in the meeting in
Greer does his thing, and at
1696
02:18:56.120 --> 02:18:58.399
the end of the meeting, Wilson
says, you know, I'm going to
1697
02:18:58.399 --> 02:19:03.920
look into this. I'm going to
see if there is a program, and
1698
02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:09.200
then they all go home and Mitchell
he's the key in this in my opinion,
1699
02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:13.360
Will Miller and Mitchell. So Wilson
spends the next two months knocking on
1700
02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:20.719
doors going through files and he finds
not one, but four for special access
1701
02:19:20.760 --> 02:19:24.760
programs that seem to deal with et
tech reverse engineering. He finds one of
1702
02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:28.680
them and talks to the three gatekeepers
as he called them, in charge of
1703
02:19:28.719 --> 02:19:33.479
the program, and he's the program
manager, the security manager, and the
1704
02:19:33.479 --> 02:19:41.239
corporate attorney because it's not do D
now we're in private corporation, probably Lockheed.
1705
02:19:43.239 --> 02:19:46.600
No one's confirmed it. And Wilson's
like, I need to be involved
1706
02:19:46.600 --> 02:19:50.760
in this. It is your mistake
that you're not allowing me to have oversight
1707
02:19:50.840 --> 02:19:56.280
over your blah blah blah blah.
And they're like, sure, fine,
1708
02:19:56.559 --> 02:20:03.399
whatever, Yes, we're trying to
reverse engineer a craft, not from here.
1709
02:20:03.399 --> 02:20:09.440
We've made very little progress. You're
not in, don't try, don't
1710
02:20:09.479 --> 02:20:15.399
even think about it. And Wilson's
like, oh yeah, well I'm going
1711
02:20:15.440 --> 02:20:20.440
to get in you just wait and
see. They're like, sure, knock
1712
02:20:20.479 --> 02:20:26.040
yourself out. He goes back to
Washington starts complaining up the chain of command,
1713
02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:33.000
and he's immediately threatened with his career
and he's angry, he's furious,
1714
02:20:33.239 --> 02:20:39.600
but what can he do? So
five years later he's retired. In the
1715
02:20:39.639 --> 02:20:43.879
meantime, Edgar Mitchell got word of
Wilson's being shut out, and he talks
1716
02:20:43.920 --> 02:20:48.040
to his buddies, which I affectionately
called the Bigelow Club, all around Robert
1717
02:20:48.040 --> 02:20:54.479
Bigelow in the National Institute of Defense, National Institute of Discovery Science back in
1718
02:20:54.520 --> 02:21:00.319
the late nineties, burly two thousands. So you've got Robert Bigelow, You've
1719
02:21:00.319 --> 02:21:05.879
got how put Hoff, You've got
Kid Green, You've got John Alexander,
1720
02:21:05.840 --> 02:21:11.440
You've got Jack Valets part of that
whole group, You've got Eric Davis,
1721
02:21:11.680 --> 02:21:16.680
comcaler Her and so forth. And
Mitchell got word of the city, tells
1722
02:21:16.760 --> 02:21:22.920
him he said, yea, Wilson
got denied. Wow, amazing, because
1723
02:21:22.920 --> 02:21:28.239
that whole group of people, like
now I know this, Now this is
1724
02:21:28.280 --> 02:21:31.840
my own figuring this out. They
are a brilliant group of people with various
1725
02:21:31.879 --> 02:21:37.159
security clearances and with a fascination to
the point of obsession at times about UFOs,
1726
02:21:39.239 --> 02:21:41.079
all of them, every one of
them, because they all know it's
1727
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:46.840
real. They all know it's important, and they all want to get to
1728
02:21:46.879 --> 02:21:50.120
the center of the labyrinth. And
so what they do, what they would
1729
02:21:50.120 --> 02:21:54.360
do is share what they know with
each other in a secure way, in
1730
02:21:54.399 --> 02:22:00.280
a way that's not violating, you
know, their own security clearances. But
1731
02:22:00.399 --> 02:22:05.639
so they all did. So Mitchell
comes back, he gives a report on
1732
02:22:05.760 --> 02:22:09.600
Wilson, and when Wilson retires five
years later, they send one of their
1733
02:22:09.600 --> 02:22:15.399
own, doctor Eric Davis, to
go off and interview Wilson and get the
1734
02:22:15.440 --> 02:22:20.920
real scoop. And Davis met with
Wilson and hit a home run interview and
1735
02:22:20.000 --> 02:22:26.280
took thirteen pages of detailed notes and
Wilson just unloaded. Not enough, Wilson,
1736
02:22:26.440 --> 02:22:31.120
I'm sure, did not tell everything. Davis asked a lot of questions
1737
02:22:31.319 --> 02:22:35.799
and Wilson just said, Nope,
can't tell you a core secret. What
1738
02:22:37.040 --> 02:22:41.239
was the company? Can't tell you
a core secret. A core secret means
1739
02:22:41.280 --> 02:22:46.799
if you give that up, that's
like catastrophic failure. You can't do that.
1740
02:22:46.879 --> 02:22:50.920
But Wilson told him enough, and
it's quite up front. And how
1741
02:22:50.920 --> 02:22:54.959
do I know this is real?
Well? I know it's real because in
1742
02:22:56.000 --> 02:22:58.479
two thousand and six I was shown
several pages of those by one of the
1743
02:22:58.520 --> 02:23:03.879
people in that club, and I've
never given up the man's name and I
1744
02:23:03.959 --> 02:23:07.159
won't. I begged him when they
leaked out in twenty nineteen, like,
1745
02:23:07.479 --> 02:23:11.319
can I please mention the fact that
it was you who showed me these?
1746
02:23:11.319 --> 02:23:16.559
And he said, I'd rather you
not, So I'm not going to That's
1747
02:23:16.600 --> 02:23:22.239
fine. I was disappointed for a
while, but it's okay. Meanwhile,
1748
02:23:22.399 --> 02:23:26.840
you got a lot of loudmouthed people
out there saying it's fake. It's a
1749
02:23:26.920 --> 02:23:35.159
sigh up. It's like the Majestic
documents. No, it's real. It's
1750
02:23:35.200 --> 02:23:39.280
absolutely real. And by the way, a number of prominent researchers and like
1751
02:23:39.319 --> 02:23:45.520
have said to me privately, oh
yeah, I've seen them too. I
1752
02:23:45.559 --> 02:23:50.280
saw them years ago. Like everyone
knows they're real, but like, these
1753
02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:56.319
people cannot possibly admit it because if
they did, they blow their security clearances
1754
02:23:56.600 --> 02:24:01.120
and bad things happen one way or
another. They just can't do it.
1755
02:24:03.040 --> 02:24:07.399
And so here we are. But
you, as a researcher, should know
1756
02:24:07.520 --> 02:24:11.879
better. And by the way,
when you study those documents, they are
1757
02:24:11.920 --> 02:24:15.479
among the best things that we have
actually to help us navigate that structure of
1758
02:24:15.520 --> 02:24:20.760
secrecy, because there's a lot of
bureaucratic stuff in there that's actually very useful,
1759
02:24:20.760 --> 02:24:24.079
and some good names to go by
as well. There's there are research
1760
02:24:24.159 --> 02:24:28.319
leads that are in there, and
I talked with some of the researchers and
1761
02:24:28.360 --> 02:24:33.879
were trying to go through those leads. Anyway that leaked, and then all
1762
02:24:33.920 --> 02:24:39.559
these other things that leaked during twenty
nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.
1763
02:24:39.879 --> 02:24:43.879
It's like amazing. Another New York
Times article in July of twenty twenty
1764
02:24:45.840 --> 02:24:50.000
that was a good one that took
us again, Leslie and Ralph right to
1765
02:24:50.040 --> 02:24:54.799
the edge of crash retrievals. You
get a statement by Eric Davis in that
1766
02:24:54.959 --> 02:25:00.799
article and a statement by Harry Reid
in that article. Harry Reid had to
1767
02:25:00.840 --> 02:25:05.159
walk it back in a tweet.
Harry Reid is almost like our new version
1768
02:25:05.200 --> 02:25:09.280
of buzz Aldren. He says,
like these amazing things, and then the
1769
02:25:09.319 --> 02:25:13.520
handlers come in the next day and
say, sir, you've got to like
1770
02:25:13.760 --> 02:25:18.959
you better. You have to issue
a denial of that. And Harry Reid
1771
02:25:18.040 --> 02:25:22.319
issues a tweet saying, no,
no, I I didn't mean to say
1772
02:25:22.319 --> 02:25:28.479
that. There's definitely crash retrievals.
What was I thinking? In the New
1773
02:25:28.559 --> 02:25:33.079
Yorker article in May twenty twenty one
this year, same thing with Harry Reid.
1774
02:25:33.079 --> 02:25:37.879
He's talking about Lockheed and getting,
you know, denied access to the
1775
02:25:37.920 --> 02:25:43.559
Lockheed's special access program. If you
read that article, very interesting article in
1776
02:25:43.600 --> 02:25:46.719
the New Yorker. And then the
next day or day after that, he's
1777
02:25:46.760 --> 02:25:52.479
read tweets again he says, no, no, I didn't say that.
1778
02:25:52.559 --> 02:25:56.559
I think it's Lockheed. I don't
think so. Other people may think that,
1779
02:25:58.760 --> 02:26:03.239
not me. It's like, okay, I'm sure the New Yorker journalists
1780
02:26:03.319 --> 02:26:07.920
really screwed that one up, but
okay, whatever. And then the last
1781
02:26:07.920 --> 02:26:13.360
bit of news is just a lesson
a week ago. I guess, yeah,
1782
02:26:13.520 --> 02:26:18.840
about a week ago New York Times
again. Actually, the New York
1783
02:26:18.920 --> 02:26:24.159
Times did two more articles on UFOs. These were very, very tepid,
1784
02:26:24.159 --> 02:26:28.520
and I would say below average.
Now we're getting back to the standard level
1785
02:26:28.559 --> 02:26:33.959
of the New York Times. And
why because these are not by Leslie Kane
1786
02:26:33.040 --> 02:26:39.959
and Ralph Blumenthal, that's why.
So this is by Helene Cooper and Julian
1787
02:26:39.000 --> 02:26:46.639
Brown. What an embarrassing article this
one was. And there was another one
1788
02:26:46.639 --> 02:26:50.159
that did the same day that was
actually even worse. But in this article.
1789
02:26:50.399 --> 02:26:56.200
A couple of times the authors explicitly
state, well, UFO doesn't necessarily
1790
02:26:56.280 --> 02:27:01.280
mean alien. Okay, yeah,
we get that. And then the other
1791
02:27:01.399 --> 02:27:05.600
article from the New York Times that
day was even worse. It was like,
1792
02:27:05.879 --> 02:27:11.399
here's a little history of UFOs.
We're not going to talk about crotch
1793
02:27:11.440 --> 02:27:16.399
atrievals or roswell, We're not going
to talk about Project Blue Book other than
1794
02:27:16.479 --> 02:27:20.559
just passing over it. It was
just awful article. And that leads me
1795
02:27:20.639 --> 02:27:24.879
to my conclusions. Here. You
know what we've had in the last three
1796
02:27:24.920 --> 02:27:28.120
and a half years, since all
of this has happened. No one really
1797
02:27:28.159 --> 02:27:33.879
knows what to make of these revelations. No one. Everyone argues in our
1798
02:27:33.920 --> 02:27:39.319
community over what's TTSA. Are they
a CIA syop or are they military intelligent
1799
02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:45.680
SIAP doing a false flag? You
hear that a lot, and some people
1800
02:27:45.760 --> 02:27:48.600
even will talk about the famed Project
Blue Beam in connection with all of this.
1801
02:27:50.799 --> 02:27:54.399
So Blue Beam, if you don't
know, that, actually was originated
1802
02:27:54.479 --> 02:27:58.680
as an idea in nineteen ninety four
and as a fake alien invasion, scare
1803
02:27:58.719 --> 02:28:03.840
the hell out of you type of
thing. You go run into PAPA that
1804
02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:09.040
is a National security state for protection
and they'll do a totalitarian lockdown in exchange
1805
02:28:09.040 --> 02:28:13.360
for protecting you from the aliens.
That was supposed to be the Blue Beam
1806
02:28:15.319 --> 02:28:20.040
holographic display. And of course what
you should know is that Blue Beam originated
1807
02:28:20.079 --> 02:28:26.079
primarily as an evangelical Christian idea,
so it would be a second Coming of
1808
02:28:26.159 --> 02:28:31.559
Christ in the Western countries, and
then there'd be holographic displays of other religious
1809
02:28:31.559 --> 02:28:35.879
figures and other nations. Like,
how on God's name are you going to
1810
02:28:35.920 --> 02:28:41.719
do that? I have no idea. Fake archaeological finds were supposed to be
1811
02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:46.559
discovered that would throw people off from
the true faith, and yes, aliens
1812
02:28:46.559 --> 02:28:50.319
as well. That was all in
the mix. The guy who came up
1813
02:28:50.319 --> 02:28:56.200
with this was a French Canadian from
Quebec named Serge Monast, and I don't
1814
02:28:56.239 --> 02:29:00.440
even think he spoke English, but
he had a connection at NASA. He
1815
02:29:00.559 --> 02:29:03.040
said that NASA and the U n
were plotting to do this all before Y
1816
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two K in two thousand. I
mean, if you have a red Monast
1817
02:29:07.680 --> 02:29:11.959
and I did this for you so
you don't have to. But he I'm
1818
02:29:11.000 --> 02:29:16.000
just going to say, he wasn't
all there. It just is like unhinged
1819
02:29:16.200 --> 02:29:20.760
my opinion. But anyway, so
Blue Beam didn't happen, and then it
1820
02:29:20.799 --> 02:29:26.120
morphed into an alien invasion scenario in
the twenty first century, and even back
1821
02:29:26.159 --> 02:29:31.399
in two thousand ten, there was
supposed to be a blue beam event and
1822
02:29:31.520 --> 02:29:35.200
I'm like rolling my eyes telling people
it's not going to happen. It's not
1823
02:29:35.360 --> 02:29:41.120
going to happen, And now you're
hearing it again. A lot of people
1824
02:29:41.200 --> 02:29:46.360
talk about it. Anyway, back
to the revelations, false flags, syap,
1825
02:29:46.559 --> 02:29:52.200
what's happening. It's very very common
to hear people say that all the
1826
02:29:52.239 --> 02:29:56.799
information coming out courtesy of people like
lou Elizondo, Christopher Mellon and the like
1827
02:29:56.920 --> 02:30:01.079
is a syap in one way or
another. Well, let me get into
1828
02:30:01.079 --> 02:30:05.399
the false flag thing first, because
people like to use that word, and
1829
02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:11.079
so happens that. False flags are
a very strong interest of mine. I
1830
02:30:11.200 --> 02:30:15.559
nearly wrote a book on the history
of false flags. I did write a
1831
02:30:15.600 --> 02:30:20.520
TV series for Gaya on the history
of false flags a couple of years ago.
1832
02:30:20.840 --> 02:30:24.079
My producer for that should be in
the audience, Sid Goldberg. I
1833
02:30:24.200 --> 02:30:30.559
love Sid. I gave Sid a
lot of hell for things that wasn't his
1834
02:30:30.639 --> 02:30:35.879
fault. I just threw a lot
of hissy fits during that. But anyway,
1835
02:30:35.159 --> 02:30:39.920
SID stood by me, and so
we did that. And I'm very
1836
02:30:39.959 --> 02:30:45.680
engaged in studying false flags, and
I happen to think that we live in
1837
02:30:45.719 --> 02:30:50.879
an era of false flags, and
I've developed my own theory about false flags,
1838
02:30:50.159 --> 02:30:56.040
like my own modology of them,
and I think I'm right. Anyway.
1839
02:30:56.280 --> 02:30:58.639
One of the things about false flags
is you have to dominate the media,
1840
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and you have to have a coordinated
media response like swift, powerful,
1841
02:31:05.239 --> 02:31:09.239
unified media response to get an immediate
reaction out of you so that you allow
1842
02:31:09.319 --> 02:31:13.959
the government to do something that they
couldn't ordinarily have done, whether it's past
1843
02:31:13.959 --> 02:31:18.159
pernicious laws to take your freedoms away
or maybe invade the country over there,
1844
02:31:18.159 --> 02:31:22.559
because we want to do that and
we need a justification. In other words,
1845
02:31:22.719 --> 02:31:26.159
the media response has to be coordinated. It's got to be powerful,
1846
02:31:28.120 --> 02:31:31.719
it's got to be in your face. Well, we get none of that
1847
02:31:31.840 --> 02:31:37.120
with us, We get none of
that. There's no coordination going on here
1848
02:31:37.200 --> 02:31:43.280
with this message. People say,
well, there's a threat narrative. Elizondo
1849
02:31:43.440 --> 02:31:48.959
keeps talking about a threat narrative.
He's trying to scare the public. Let's
1850
02:31:48.079 --> 02:31:54.159
just stop and talk about that.
Seriously. I showed you some documents earlier
1851
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about the perturbing nature of these objects. Now it's true, there was no
1852
02:32:00.799 --> 02:32:07.040
Independence Day scenario. These objects weren't
blowing up the White House. They weren't
1853
02:32:07.079 --> 02:32:11.639
using lasers necessarily to shoot our aircraft
out of the skies. Although there's a
1854
02:32:11.680 --> 02:32:16.559
lot of provocation when you go through
the history of UFO encounters with militaries around
1855
02:32:16.600 --> 02:32:22.399
the world and also commercial aviation,
let's not forget that there's a lot of
1856
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close encounters and dangerous events going on. It doesn't mean that they're hostile.
1857
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But if you're a military person,
and if you are responsible for the security
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02:32:33.079 --> 02:32:37.280
of a sensitive base, for example, and unknown objects are hanging out over
1859
02:32:37.319 --> 02:32:41.639
your base, objects that don't look
normal, that don't act in any conventional
1860
02:32:41.680 --> 02:32:46.600
way, that are extraordinary, you're
going to be concerned about it. And
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you would be criminally negligent if you
did not consider it a potential threat,
1862
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because that is your job. Unless
you don't think that the military has a
1863
02:32:54.600 --> 02:32:58.920
right to defend your nation or defend
their air space, then I don't see
1864
02:32:58.959 --> 02:33:01.360
what the argument is to say say
that it's unfair to talk about a potential
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threat because it is a potential threat. That's the reality, it doesn't mean
1866
02:33:07.079 --> 02:33:11.799
that they're necessarily actively out to harm
us. I mean, after all,
1867
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they're hanging out over at the Nahanford
Atomic Energy Plant. Yeah, that was
1868
02:33:16.920 --> 02:33:22.559
a huge toxic boondoggle. People in
nineteen fifty probably had no idea how bad
1869
02:33:22.600 --> 02:33:28.079
it was going to be, and
probably aliens would so they may have been
1870
02:33:28.120 --> 02:33:33.719
concerned fair enough. Nevertheless, it
is legitimate I would say to at least
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consider that these are a potential threat, and I think otherwise it's just full
1872
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hearty silliness. So there's that.
The other thing about potential threat I would
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just say is, you know,
look, you're trying to talk to dumb,
1874
02:33:48.840 --> 02:33:52.879
dumb Congress, dumb dumb media,
lazy ignorant people who really just don't
1875
02:33:52.879 --> 02:33:56.559
care about any of this stuff.
How are you going to get their attention?
1876
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Like, honestly, well, maybe
you have to shake them by the
1877
02:34:01.760 --> 02:34:05.559
shoulders and wake them up and say, you know, there's a potential threat
1878
02:34:05.600 --> 02:34:09.719
here, which is actually a legit
thing to say. So what I did
1879
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in my first two volumes of history
u FOS in National Security State, I
1880
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don't think I did anything different.
Frankly, you point out that this is
1881
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a serious matter, and that's exactly
what they did. So I don't consider
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02:34:24.559 --> 02:34:28.799
the threat narrative a valid argument to
say that this is a syobraphouse flag to
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make you justify greater military expenditures,
which, by the way, none of
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02:34:33.159 --> 02:34:37.879
that is. None of the u
FO stuff, to my knowledge, has
1885
02:34:37.920 --> 02:34:43.360
been a significant impact on military spending. Maybe in the future at will could
1886
02:34:43.399 --> 02:34:46.920
happen, but so far it's been
three and a half years. I don't
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see anyone running around scared either.
By the way, I don't see a
1888
02:34:52.200 --> 02:34:58.360
frightened public. In fact, I
see the opposite. The primary media message
1889
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is not threat. Once in a
while, Elizondo, particularly lou Elizondo,
1890
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will mention that, but you really
don't get a threat narrative coming out of
1891
02:35:07.360 --> 02:35:13.600
the media. It's not happening.
And this last New York Times piece absolutely
1892
02:35:13.639 --> 02:35:18.559
they play it down. So if
they're trying to ramp this up, they're
1893
02:35:18.559 --> 02:35:22.319
doing a pretty bad job at it, I would say. And there's not
1894
02:35:22.440 --> 02:35:28.040
coordination either, So like between say
the New York Times in Fox, so
1895
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over at Fox they got really one
guy, Tucker Carlson, who seems to
1896
02:35:33.399 --> 02:35:37.239
have an interest in this and he
actually asks I mean, for major corporate
1897
02:35:37.280 --> 02:35:43.280
media, relatively decent questions. Got
to give the guy credit on that he's
1898
02:35:43.319 --> 02:35:48.360
actually at least going in and trying
to get to this. But there's no
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02:35:48.399 --> 02:35:52.680
one else in the major television media
that I recognize is actually even a fraction
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02:35:52.799 --> 02:35:56.520
of the way that far down the
road. And the New York Times,
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by the way, this is the
last thing I'll say this before moving non.
1902
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When the New York Times first did
their few articles back in twenty seventeen,
1903
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like a lot of us were wondering, like, what's actually going on
1904
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because we're all used to knowing that
the New York Times is the premier source
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02:36:13.399 --> 02:36:20.280
of fake news. Everyone talks about
fake news. No one's better than maybe
1906
02:36:20.399 --> 02:36:24.680
CNN. All right, I don't
get political here, but let's say New
1907
02:36:24.760 --> 02:36:31.440
York Times, that's a safe bet. New York Times has measurably given out
1908
02:36:31.479 --> 02:36:35.040
fake news that's resulting to deaths of
hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people.
1909
02:36:37.040 --> 02:36:41.399
You've got, you know, weapons
of mass destruction. And by the
1910
02:36:41.440 --> 02:36:46.040
way, the New York Times is
very complicit in the false flag anthrax scare,
1911
02:36:46.040 --> 02:36:50.360
and yes, I will say that
was an absolute false flag. New
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02:36:50.440 --> 02:36:56.719
York Times was absolutely on board with
that nonsense. So no, all of
1913
02:36:56.719 --> 02:36:58.959
a sudden, the New York Times
is now doing something decent on you us.
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Well, no, a lot of
us were inclined to wonder what's going
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on. But what I believe now
is that there is one and only one
1916
02:37:07.879 --> 02:37:13.840
reason that The New York Times did
anything halfway decent on UFOs, Actually two
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reasons, and those reasons were called
Leslie Kane and Ralph Blumenthal. Those are
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the two reasons. And I believe
that Leslie and Ralph fought their way to
1919
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get those articles published. And I
know they had resistance. Why else in
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02:37:31.319 --> 02:37:35.040
the first article where they're talking about
I forget it was the a tip or
1921
02:37:35.079 --> 02:37:39.639
the tic TAC article, but they
bring in James ober one of the most
1922
02:37:39.639 --> 02:37:45.360
prominent skeptic debunkers, and they bring
in a completely irrelevant, useless quote by
1923
02:37:45.360 --> 02:37:50.920
Obert to why there's no point?
Does anyone really think Leslie or Ralph wanted
1924
02:37:50.959 --> 02:37:58.360
that in there? They're both UFO
believers. We all know that there's no
1925
02:37:58.479 --> 02:38:03.440
reason that they would do that.
They had to because they had to fight
1926
02:38:03.479 --> 02:38:09.200
an ultra conservative establishment in that organization. They had to do it, But
1927
02:38:09.280 --> 02:38:13.559
they were able to get some very
good articles in the Times. I mean
1928
02:38:13.799 --> 02:38:18.840
by corporate mainstream standards, of course, and when they were not the authors,
1929
02:38:18.040 --> 02:38:22.879
the New York Times reverts back to
its substandard, less than mediocre levels,
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which is really where they're most comfortable. So I think that's the story.
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So what I'm saying to you is
that we're dealing with a situation where
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there are two forces at work in
what we're dealing with right now. One
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02:38:37.959 --> 02:38:41.760
force seems to be doing what it
feels it can to promote a greater openness
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02:38:41.760 --> 02:38:46.920
on UFOs. I don't know about
disclosure, full disclosure, I doubt it,
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02:38:48.840 --> 02:38:52.399
but more openness on UFOs than we
have had hitherto. There's a fancy
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02:38:52.520 --> 02:38:56.799
ten dollar word. And then the
other force. I'm going to talk about
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that too. It's a force leading
toward greater global secrecy on UFOs and let's
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02:39:03.239 --> 02:39:09.360
say twenty four to seven global totalitarian
conformity. Those are the two forces,
1939
02:39:09.840 --> 02:39:15.959
and they are at odds with each
other. Let's talk about force number one,
1940
02:39:16.200 --> 02:39:22.280
the faction within the establishment. There's
Robert Bigelow, leader of the club.
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02:39:22.239 --> 02:39:26.559
I never talk with him. I
would love to talk with this man,
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02:39:26.879 --> 02:39:31.799
I have to say. So what
I believe this is my take.
1943
02:39:31.879 --> 02:39:39.000
Some of you will disagree. I
have no doubt it's fine. I don't
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02:39:39.000 --> 02:39:43.719
get offended saying to someone earlier like
you have to work really really hard to
1945
02:39:43.719 --> 02:39:50.040
get me mad at you or offended. I don't get personal bad at any
1946
02:39:50.079 --> 02:39:52.840
of this stuff. I think it's
a bad idea, by the way,
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02:39:54.120 --> 02:39:58.520
for people to get personal in this
field, and it happens all too much.
1948
02:39:58.520 --> 02:40:03.559
But Fact Force number one is a
faction, and I think the members
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02:40:03.559 --> 02:40:07.559
of the core group, let's just
throw the names out there. You got
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02:40:07.559 --> 02:40:11.360
Bigelow, you got Harry Reid,
you got help put Off, you got
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02:40:11.479 --> 02:40:18.239
Eric Davis, Lou Alizondo, Christopher
Mellon, Tom DeLong, George knapp,
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02:40:18.479 --> 02:40:24.000
Leslie Kane, Ralph Blumenthal. There's
others, but it's probably the big ones.
1953
02:40:24.959 --> 02:40:28.639
We should put Danny sheehan in there. Now, there's Danny. He
1954
02:40:28.760 --> 02:40:35.760
belongs in there. He does,
he does. He belongs in there.
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And this group has allies, yes, they do, within the Pentagon and
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02:40:41.040 --> 02:40:48.680
beyond. Tucker Carlson at Fox he's
an ally. There's some UFO researchers who
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02:40:48.719 --> 02:40:54.239
are allies, and there's a lot
of other there's lower level media to some
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02:40:54.399 --> 02:41:01.840
prominent YouTube personalities and like semi establishment
news organizations. Over at Rising on the
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02:41:01.920 --> 02:41:05.040
Hill, you've got Sager and Jetty
A Sager and Jetty who is a young
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02:41:05.120 --> 02:41:11.879
journalist, very kind of mainstream political. He's into it. He follows the
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u f O news and they bring
in this to a broader public. So
1962
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there's definitely people. You've got Rogan, You've got a number of other people
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who are Lex Friedman over on his
big YouTube channel he talks about these things.
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So there's like a kind of just
below the big, biggest, but
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some of these people are bigger than
the corporate establishment anyway, they have more
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02:41:35.959 --> 02:41:41.200
followers. But there are also enemies
to this faction. That's the real establishment.
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They're the enemies. They're not the
same as the faction. So who's
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02:41:48.319 --> 02:41:54.879
the core public group I say public
the people that we can see, well,
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the Pentagon p R Desk, they're
an enemy, that's for sure.
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02:42:00.319 --> 02:42:03.079
New York Times, other than Leslie
and Ralph when they are not involved.
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02:42:03.360 --> 02:42:07.719
New York Times is part of that
establishment, and most of the rest of
1972
02:42:07.799 --> 02:42:13.719
major media is part of that.
And there are some UFO researchers who very
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02:42:13.760 --> 02:42:18.319
loudly proclaim their enmity to all things
having to do with this faction. And
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02:42:18.399 --> 02:42:22.000
then behind the scenes, the factions, the enemies are even stronger, because
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02:42:22.040 --> 02:42:28.200
that's every one associated with any of
the special access programs, private contractors involved
1976
02:42:28.200 --> 02:42:33.440
in this, you know, the
big corporations. And yet probably most of
1977
02:42:33.479 --> 02:42:37.680
the senior members of the Pentagon.
I mean, these people don't They don't
1978
02:42:37.760 --> 02:42:43.040
like to give up secrets ever,
like ever, it's against their DNA,
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and they are not friendly to this
stuff. And I know that the man
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who was very successful in this group, and I know this because and I
1981
02:42:50.639 --> 02:42:56.159
will release this sometime soon. But
a very close friend of mine, an
1982
02:42:56.200 --> 02:43:01.079
associate of mine, had a very
extended correspondence with Mark Candlish, which I
1983
02:43:01.200 --> 02:43:07.000
have and it's quite fascinating. He
was terrified of the private contractors, particularly
1984
02:43:07.959 --> 02:43:13.959
who he believed were not averse to
killing problematic individuals anyway. Be that as
1985
02:43:13.959 --> 02:43:18.719
it may, the real establishment,
they are not friends of disclosure. They
1986
02:43:18.760 --> 02:43:24.639
are not interested in any way of
raising awareness about UFOs at all. What
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02:43:24.760 --> 02:43:28.200
does this establishment want? Well,
this is where it gets really fun,
1988
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actually not fun. My view is
they will stall on UFO disclosure indefinitely.
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If they can hold off disclosure for
five years, they'll do it. If
1990
02:43:41.600 --> 02:43:45.440
they can hold it off for fifty
years, they'll do it. If they
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can hold it off for five hundred
years, they'll do that too. They
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02:43:48.680 --> 02:43:52.159
probably can't do it for five hundred
years, but they'll do it as long
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02:43:52.200 --> 02:43:58.399
as possible. And but beyond UFO
disclosure in secrecy, they've got other interests,
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02:43:58.559 --> 02:44:03.680
that's for sure. So what we're
looking at is the transformation of our
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02:44:03.719 --> 02:44:07.200
globe right now. We all know
it. We have all seen it in
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the last year and a half.
It started in earnest really after nine to
1997
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eleven, but that was I guess
we can now look back and say that
1998
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was phase one. Now we're going
through another phase. And what we're looking
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at is the development inevitable, well
maybe I shouldn't say inevitable, a seemingly
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possibly inevitable development of a global totalitarianism. Digital control over your speech, over
2001
02:44:35.239 --> 02:44:39.360
the expression and flow of ideas,
over your movement, over your employment,
2002
02:44:39.360 --> 02:44:43.440
over your entertainment, over your culture, over your information, all of that.
2003
02:44:45.559 --> 02:44:48.639
People talk about fascism and they think
about it in connection with a dominant
2004
02:44:48.639 --> 02:44:54.120
fist on a table leader. You
know. That's why they talked about Trump
2005
02:44:54.200 --> 02:44:58.520
or comparing him like Mussolini and that
type of thing. I'm going to tell
2006
02:44:58.559 --> 02:45:03.399
you right now, that's not fais
cult of personality is now irrelevant to fascism.
2007
02:45:05.360 --> 02:45:09.920
God understand that. In the nineteen
thirties, yeah, it was the
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02:45:09.959 --> 02:45:13.079
way, and it was you know, you look at the fascists of that
2009
02:45:13.200 --> 02:45:20.360
era and let's include the Communists and
Stalin. Absolutely it was that was creation
2010
02:45:20.479 --> 02:45:26.319
of a quasi religion. Absolutely,
with the rituals, the fantasy, the
2011
02:45:26.360 --> 02:45:31.959
goady uniforms, the pageantry. It
was important to do that. And it's
2012
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not that it's not important today.
But what's much more important is digital control.
2013
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That's really what matters, bureaucratic control
over every single aspect of your life
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for the rest of all time.
You don't need a cult of personality for
2015
02:45:46.959 --> 02:45:52.360
that. You don't have to have
this loud trash talk in nationalists to be
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a fascist. That's complete. It's
like, don't get caught up in thinking
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02:45:56.879 --> 02:46:01.760
that's how it has to look.
It's irrelevant. And the other thing that's
2018
02:46:01.840 --> 02:46:07.600
not needed anymore, unfortunately, is
an industrious middle class. That's very bad
2019
02:46:07.680 --> 02:46:13.600
news for us. Middle class has
a phenomenon, it's a historical blip.
2020
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You know, it really started in
the eighteenth century, basically with this crazy
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02:46:18.399 --> 02:46:24.120
new thing called free enterprise capitalism,
where individuals had the freedom to create their
2022
02:46:24.159 --> 02:46:30.639
own economic future. That was a
completely new thing at the time, and
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02:46:30.719 --> 02:46:35.440
it was and it was it was
actually tremendously beneficial, even to the people
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02:46:35.479 --> 02:46:41.000
at the top of the pyramid.
Why because all those little busy beavers were
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02:46:41.000 --> 02:46:46.319
liberated to unleash their own genius to
create new things to make the world a
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02:46:46.399 --> 02:46:50.959
better place. And they did.
They invented, you know, the railroad
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and the telegraph, and then the
automobile and the car and like all these
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02:46:56.520 --> 02:47:00.360
crazy cool things that the Rockefellers and
the Morgans and all that. The other
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02:47:01.319 --> 02:47:05.040
the ross Childs and the masters of
the universe were like, wow, this
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02:47:05.239 --> 02:47:11.000
is actually really nice. Thanks little
people, I'll take your invention. So
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it was necessary you had to have
and to have a free enterprise system like
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that, you had to have a
culture that embraced some level of freedom.
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It was necessary. But I'll ask
you to consider how necessary is that to
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day now, in an era in
which intelligent algorithms increasingly are going to take
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02:47:33.120 --> 02:47:37.760
your job because you're not going to
be needed that much. Yeah, there'll
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02:47:37.799 --> 02:47:43.000
be some need for some very inventive
people. Absolutely, but we're developing a
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02:47:43.000 --> 02:47:46.799
global system that is so bureaucratized in
which the levels of control have to be
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02:47:46.920 --> 02:47:52.319
higher and higher. But the freedom
of the genius of people to express like
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02:47:52.360 --> 02:47:58.319
that's just really not as necessary anymore, that's the truth. So we're becoming
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superfluous. I liken it to a
game of musical chairs. You know,
2041
02:48:03.040 --> 02:48:07.159
we have all the kids in the
room, and someone keeps taking the chairs
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02:48:07.200 --> 02:48:11.520
out of the room, and you
still have the same number of kids.
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02:48:11.120 --> 02:48:16.040
It's like, where are you going
to sit? What are the jobs?
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02:48:16.559 --> 02:48:20.840
Where are people going to do?
Well? The answer is there's nothing for
2045
02:48:20.920 --> 02:48:26.319
them to do except, you know, take drugs and play VR games and
2046
02:48:26.440 --> 02:48:31.840
watch whatever mindless entertainment is being given
to them by the dominant culture. That's
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02:48:31.840 --> 02:48:35.159
what's going to happen. And for
those people at the very top, though,
2048
02:48:35.399 --> 02:48:39.559
they will want what elites have always
wanted but we're never able to have,
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02:48:39.879 --> 02:48:45.120
which is immortality, live a thousand
years, perfect health, live like
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02:48:45.200 --> 02:48:50.479
the gods. They really do want
this, they've always wanted it. Of
2051
02:48:50.559 --> 02:48:54.040
course, unbounded luxury, all of
that. They're going to get it,
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02:48:54.319 --> 02:48:58.079
or at least they think they're going
to get it. Recently, just a
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02:48:58.120 --> 02:49:01.319
month ago, less than a month
ago, I read one of the early
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02:49:01.399 --> 02:49:07.319
futurist books, the early transhumanist books
from nineteen sixty eight by a man named
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02:49:07.360 --> 02:49:13.719
Gerald Finberg. He was a true
definition of a crazed genius both words.
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02:49:15.760 --> 02:49:18.799
He was a genius, but he
was insane, and he was like the
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02:49:18.840 --> 02:49:24.920
godfather of people like Ray Kurzweil and
the other singularitarians who were talking about the
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02:49:26.040 --> 02:49:31.399
artificial intelligent explosion of which they're going
to see conscious genius level AI. And
2059
02:49:31.479 --> 02:49:37.040
what Feinberg was talking about in this
book back in the sixties, it's amazing.
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02:49:37.040 --> 02:49:39.719
He was saying, you know,
here's what we're going to do.
2061
02:49:41.760 --> 02:49:46.120
We're going to create a future in
which you don't have to work ever again.
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02:49:46.399 --> 02:49:50.399
Robos is going to do everything for
you. It's going to be liberal.
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02:49:50.360 --> 02:49:56.600
This is like classic nineteen sixties futurism. You ever watched those things like
2064
02:49:56.639 --> 02:50:01.920
the Jetsons, But there's all these
videos too. It'll be like the world
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02:50:01.920 --> 02:50:05.239
of tomorrow. And you know,
Dad gets to drive to work in a
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02:50:05.319 --> 02:50:11.159
luxury car just sipping his martini.
They have robot drives, the car or
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02:50:11.200 --> 02:50:18.559
goes automatically, and these cars like
a fancy living room go figure moms still
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02:50:18.559 --> 02:50:22.959
working in the kitchen, but the
kitchen set up with all the gadgets that
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02:50:22.040 --> 02:50:26.399
do everything for her, Like none
of this stuff is practical. By the
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02:50:26.440 --> 02:50:33.520
way, all these futures had no
economic sense whatsoever, zero, But they
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02:50:33.559 --> 02:50:39.520
had this complete utopian Scientific utopianism was
the order of the day after World War
2072
02:50:39.559 --> 02:50:45.680
II, and America was the king
of scientific utopian thinking, Yeah, we're
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02:50:45.719 --> 02:50:50.760
going to create this perfect future.
It's going to be great. You don't
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02:50:50.760 --> 02:50:54.680
have to work. Well, actually
you need to work. That's the thing.
2075
02:50:56.799 --> 02:51:01.120
Like you need to suffer. You
need to suffer, You need to
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02:51:01.159 --> 02:51:07.000
work. You want to become great, you got to suffer. Sorry,
2077
02:51:07.079 --> 02:51:13.280
no other way. You got to
struggle. But anyway, say they want
2078
02:51:13.319 --> 02:51:18.319
to create a world without struggle.
And here's fine Berg writing in nineteen sixty
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eight, and he's saying like,
yeah, we're going to create this futuristic
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02:51:22.360 --> 02:51:26.760
society with it. He's talking about
artificial intelligence, like solving all of our
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02:51:26.799 --> 02:51:33.319
problems. And then he talks about
this is the creepiest thing. I cannot
2082
02:51:33.360 --> 02:51:37.280
believe a man thought of this.
He believed that you could take a little
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02:51:37.280 --> 02:51:41.040
wire and put it in your brain. Think Elon Musk's neur link This is
2084
02:51:41.120 --> 02:51:46.559
like fifty years ago. This man's
thinking of this. And he said,
2085
02:51:46.799 --> 02:51:50.040
if you connect your consciousness to some
one else's consciousness, how would you experience
2086
02:51:50.159 --> 02:51:54.280
that? He believed. I don't
know if he's right or not. He
2087
02:51:54.360 --> 02:51:58.280
said he believed that you would experience
it as one single, unified consciousness.
2088
02:52:00.280 --> 02:52:05.079
And he said it'd be great,
except there's two brains now. And he
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02:52:05.159 --> 02:52:09.159
said, what if we did it
to the entire human race. He was
2090
02:52:09.200 --> 02:52:13.319
seriously suggesting this in nineteen sixty eight. Guess what world we're moving into.
2091
02:52:15.319 --> 02:52:20.120
We're not that far. We're not
that far. And I don't know if
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02:52:20.120 --> 02:52:24.600
we're all going to experience a single
unitarian consciousness of like a hive mind,
2093
02:52:24.879 --> 02:52:28.680
but we're going to be getting kind
of sort toward that. It's going to
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02:52:28.719 --> 02:52:33.639
happen in one form or another.
So crazy stuff. In my last book,
2095
02:52:33.879 --> 02:52:37.760
The Alien Agenda, as I wrote
last fall, I developed a theory
2096
02:52:37.760 --> 02:52:41.799
which I call the fourth stage of
humanity, and I just want to talk
2097
02:52:41.840 --> 02:52:46.440
about that before I move into u
f O disclosure. So what I believe
2098
02:52:46.479 --> 02:52:50.520
is, if you look at the
long history of our species, you know,
2099
02:52:50.879 --> 02:52:54.760
when I was a kid, I
read that the human race had existed
2100
02:52:54.760 --> 02:53:01.000
for like forty thousand years, and
the earliest version was chromatin. Man remember
2101
02:53:01.040 --> 02:53:07.239
that chromatin. A lot of us
remember that. Well. Actually, paleontology
2102
02:53:07.280 --> 02:53:11.200
has made a lot of advances since
then, that's for sure. And the
2103
02:53:11.319 --> 02:53:16.280
number now is as far back as
three hundred and fifteen thousand years. The
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02:53:16.399 --> 02:53:22.200
earliest human, truly human fossil I
think, is from northwestern Africa, and
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02:53:22.239 --> 02:53:26.680
they're like us, three hundred more
than three hundred thousand years ago, and
2106
02:53:26.760 --> 02:53:31.000
they get pushed back further. You
never know. That's a long time.
2107
02:53:33.079 --> 02:53:35.760
So during all that time, nearly
all of it, we lived in one
2108
02:53:35.840 --> 02:53:41.719
and only one fundamental form of social
organization that was called hunting and gathering.
2109
02:53:43.680 --> 02:53:48.319
That's how human beings lived. That's
how we evolved, that's how our body
2110
02:53:48.319 --> 02:53:54.399
plans were divided, that's how our
brains evolved their hunter and gathered form of
2111
02:53:54.479 --> 02:54:01.280
existence. And we did that for
about three hundred thousand years, and only
2112
02:54:01.319 --> 02:54:05.799
ten thousand years ago we developed a
new form, stage two, which was
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02:54:05.879 --> 02:54:11.520
agricultural revolution and domestication of animals.
So we began to settle down out of
2114
02:54:11.559 --> 02:54:16.120
that only ten thousand years ago.
Starting that's when you get the first cities.
2115
02:54:18.079 --> 02:54:22.879
Only ten thousand years ago. That's
when you get the wheel, and
2116
02:54:22.959 --> 02:54:28.000
you get writing, and you get
metallurgy and all of the things that we
2117
02:54:28.120 --> 02:54:35.399
consider civilization. It's very recent we
forget, you know, everything from ancient
2118
02:54:35.440 --> 02:54:41.680
Egypt to the Roman Empire to the
Italian Renaissance. All of that is stage
2119
02:54:41.719 --> 02:54:46.680
two of human civilization. And it's
amazing. That was an amazing form of
2120
02:54:46.719 --> 02:54:54.799
civilization, absolutely high level of organization, literacy, sophistication, proto science.
2121
02:54:56.879 --> 02:55:01.520
In fact, the beginnings of science
happened then, and that's what took it
2122
02:55:01.559 --> 02:55:07.319
to stage three. It's science and
an industry a couple of hundred years ago,
2123
02:55:07.319 --> 02:55:13.879
let's say seventeenth century, eighteenth century, you know, guys like Descartes
2124
02:55:13.920 --> 02:55:18.040
and Isaac Newton, and then the
British industrialization that followed as a result of
2125
02:55:18.079 --> 02:55:24.120
that transformed our world again in an
absolutely equally profound way, you know.
2126
02:55:24.200 --> 02:55:28.040
And there's all variations of these,
but they're really, in my view,
2127
02:55:28.239 --> 02:55:33.639
they're fundamentally of a kind. And
we were all born into stage three.
2128
02:55:33.920 --> 02:55:39.760
We were born into the late stage
industry in science. But now I propose
2129
02:55:39.799 --> 02:55:43.879
we'removing into a fourth stage. I
don't know what to call it. Maybe
2130
02:55:43.920 --> 02:55:50.440
the transhumanist stage, maybe the twenty
four to seven global digital surveillance stage.
2131
02:55:50.719 --> 02:55:56.600
I don't know. Maybe the humanity
is one big ant farm stage. Maybe
2132
02:55:56.600 --> 02:56:01.520
that's the way you call it.
But what whatever it is, it's something
2133
02:56:01.600 --> 02:56:05.399
totally different, and let me think
about it. So we're going to have
2134
02:56:05.440 --> 02:56:13.760
strong AI, biogenetic engineering, nanotechnology
highly advanced. You've got quantum computing,
2135
02:56:13.840 --> 02:56:20.319
and oh don't forget five G and
smart devices. That's key. That's key
2136
02:56:20.319 --> 02:56:26.120
because with the smart devices they can
only work with five G. But what
2137
02:56:26.200 --> 02:56:30.319
they'll do is they've got the little
sensors and monitors and they'll just watch every
2138
02:56:30.360 --> 02:56:33.799
single thing you do, you know, from your toaster to your toilet to
2139
02:56:33.840 --> 02:56:41.120
your refrigerator. Like they'll know what
you're reading, that's for sure, but
2140
02:56:41.159 --> 02:56:45.040
they're going to know more than that, and everything that you do will be
2141
02:56:45.079 --> 02:56:50.959
collected, crunched, tagged and bad. And then some algorithm will do a
2142
02:56:50.000 --> 02:56:56.479
minority report style predictive modeling of your
behavior better than you could do yourself,
2143
02:56:56.760 --> 02:57:01.440
probably and all of that's happening so
in that world, and that's just the
2144
02:57:01.440 --> 02:57:07.280
bare bones beginning, Like that's a
fundamental transformation of how human beings exist.
2145
02:57:09.319 --> 02:57:13.719
And to my mind, I'll check
out before that happens, thank you very
2146
02:57:13.840 --> 02:57:18.840
much. I have no interest in
that world. But it's happening. It's
2147
02:57:18.879 --> 02:57:22.600
coming. We've got to figure out
if you don't want to be part of
2148
02:57:22.639 --> 02:57:28.479
that, better figure out a way
to deal with it. Because that's now.
2149
02:57:28.399 --> 02:57:33.159
We're just beginning that stage. The
mature stage will probably maybe be a
2150
02:57:33.239 --> 02:57:37.840
century from now, but we're entering
it now now. At the bottom of
2151
02:57:37.879 --> 02:57:43.000
this slide, I say, why
our society will achieve parity with extraterrestrials.
2152
02:57:43.319 --> 02:57:48.479
That's kind of a provocative thing to
say, I admit, Why would I
2153
02:57:48.520 --> 02:57:52.799
say that? People would say,
well, you know, we can never
2154
02:57:52.920 --> 02:57:56.760
catch up to the E T s
or e ns ahead of us. How
2155
02:57:56.760 --> 02:58:03.040
could we? We must be like
insignificant ants to them. Wrong? Dead
2156
02:58:03.079 --> 02:58:09.000
wrong. Because progress doesn't go incrementally
like this. It doesn't go like that.
2157
02:58:09.159 --> 02:58:15.280
It goes like this. It goes
by jumps and leaps, all right,
2158
02:58:16.319 --> 02:58:22.040
That's how it works. Do scientific
revolutions. There was a book by
2159
02:58:22.040 --> 02:58:26.920
that name by Thomas Coon many years
ago where he coined the phrase the word
2160
02:58:26.959 --> 02:58:31.399
paradigm as a matter of fact,
but what he was saying is that our
2161
02:58:31.440 --> 02:58:39.440
progress goes by revolutionary paradigmatic changes,
and I think that's absolutely true. And
2162
02:58:39.520 --> 02:58:43.319
what if what we're approaching now in
this fourth stage that I think is happening
2163
02:58:43.440 --> 02:58:50.000
is a plateau in which certain critically
fundamental foundational sciences become known to us,
2164
02:58:50.520 --> 02:58:54.360
and those are the keys to the
kingdom. And what if they're the same
2165
02:58:54.440 --> 02:58:58.600
keys that other species have right now. So they may be at a more
2166
02:58:58.600 --> 02:59:01.120
advanced stage of stage four, but
maybe some of them are right at that
2167
02:59:01.239 --> 02:59:07.159
stage. It's totally possible, so
we may actually be leaping into their world
2168
02:59:07.239 --> 02:59:11.879
right now. And that's what I
mean by parody. And if that is
2169
02:59:11.920 --> 02:59:16.879
the case, then you got to
assume they know this, And then you've
2170
02:59:16.879 --> 02:59:20.719
got to assume we might be a
problem for them, or we might be
2171
02:59:20.760 --> 02:59:24.520
a prize one or the other.
We might be a problem because you know,
2172
02:59:24.840 --> 02:59:30.680
we're kind of aggressive, we're kind
of creative. We got a lot
2173
02:59:30.719 --> 02:59:33.520
of innovation, and we like to
throw our weight around a little bit,
2174
02:59:35.440 --> 02:59:39.719
and we might disrupt whatever it is
they've got. I don't really know for
2175
02:59:39.799 --> 02:59:43.319
a fact, but my own theory
is that they probably are very conservative societies.
2176
02:59:45.319 --> 02:59:48.760
And I think that because it's very
possible that they are even more controlled
2177
02:59:48.799 --> 02:59:52.360
and hive minded than we are.
I think some of the descriptions certainly lead
2178
02:59:52.399 --> 02:59:56.920
reason to think that, and I
don't think that they do a lot with
2179
02:59:56.079 --> 03:00:01.479
change at this point. And we
well that's what we're all about. So
2180
03:00:01.600 --> 03:00:05.879
we're moving in and we're an unstable
part of the equation. So if I
2181
03:00:05.920 --> 03:00:09.200
were them, I might be wanting
to look at humanity thinking, well,
2182
03:00:09.479 --> 03:00:13.760
we want to monitor and maybe manage
this process? How do we do that?
2183
03:00:15.799 --> 03:00:18.920
And that's just something you want to
think about. I think it's entirely
2184
03:00:20.000 --> 03:00:26.360
possible. Again, I'm just speculating. I could be wrong. I've been
2185
03:00:26.399 --> 03:00:31.600
wrong about a lot of things.
But it's just an interesting idea. I
2186
03:00:31.639 --> 03:00:35.200
can't shake it. I keep trying
to shake it. I want to think
2187
03:00:35.280 --> 03:00:41.159
of something, other options, but
I keep coming back to that. So
2188
03:00:41.319 --> 03:00:45.840
anyway, that's what we're moving toward. Yeah, it's a phase that I'm
2189
03:00:45.840 --> 03:00:48.639
not a fan of, but I
don't know. The other thing that I'll
2190
03:00:48.680 --> 03:00:52.760
just say is I was going to
save this for the end and I'll come
2191
03:00:52.799 --> 03:00:56.760
back to it. But it could
very well be that we are turning ourselves
2192
03:00:56.799 --> 03:01:03.840
into the very aliens that we observe. Like that's a real possibility. I
2193
03:01:03.959 --> 03:01:07.520
mean, hive mind, you know, total monitoring, and you get the
2194
03:01:07.559 --> 03:01:13.399
descriptions that people say about these other
aliens, particularly the grays, and you
2195
03:01:13.479 --> 03:01:16.920
get this sense of hive mind and
telepathy where they all seem to know what
2196
03:01:18.000 --> 03:01:22.520
each other's thinking. Maybe there's some
privacy, but you don't get the sense
2197
03:01:22.559 --> 03:01:26.719
of that not at all. It
could be exceptions, but it could be
2198
03:01:26.840 --> 03:01:31.079
that we are actually becoming like them. And the one thing to think about
2199
03:01:31.120 --> 03:01:35.559
is this by default? In other
words, is this by the very structure
2200
03:01:35.559 --> 03:01:39.959
of the technology that we've developed,
Does that force us into this form of
2201
03:01:39.000 --> 03:01:43.920
social organization? I personally have been
a believer for a long time that your
2202
03:01:43.959 --> 03:01:50.200
form of technology and you know,
are a huge factor in how your society
2203
03:01:50.239 --> 03:01:54.639
is structured, and that it also
creates the psychology necessary to make that society
2204
03:01:54.639 --> 03:02:00.719
function. How much time do I
have? Thirty? I am way behind?
2205
03:02:01.719 --> 03:02:05.799
Oh boy, I did a bad
Thank you, NICKI? Oops?
2206
03:02:07.079 --> 03:02:11.319
Is it that late? You know? I'm pretty bad with this sometimes with
2207
03:02:11.360 --> 03:02:15.879
my time management skills. This is
mostly a new lecture, and I didn't
2208
03:02:15.920 --> 03:02:20.360
know how long it would go.
So all right, moving on back to
2209
03:02:20.520 --> 03:02:26.479
UFOs. I wanted to get to
that whole four stage of humanity just to
2210
03:02:26.520 --> 03:02:30.319
give you an idea of what we're
up against, because that's the establishment.
2211
03:02:30.600 --> 03:02:35.920
In my view, that's what they're
pushing. They're pushing the nineteen sixty eight
2212
03:02:35.040 --> 03:02:41.079
vision of Gerald Feinberg in modern you
know, the people at Davos and the
2213
03:02:41.120 --> 03:02:46.040
Builderberg folks. That's what they're about. In my opinion, that's the world
2214
03:02:46.120 --> 03:02:50.639
that they're trying to create twenty first
century version of that, And that's the
2215
03:02:50.680 --> 03:02:54.319
world in which you're not going to
see a lot of openness and open intelligent
2216
03:02:54.360 --> 03:03:01.520
discussion of UFOs because an open intelligent
discussion of UFA is going to cause some
2217
03:03:01.600 --> 03:03:05.360
serious problems in terms of rocking the
boat. We're moving into an era where
2218
03:03:05.399 --> 03:03:11.079
you're not supposed to believe in conspiracy
theories. Right, conspiracy theories are bad.
2219
03:03:13.159 --> 03:03:18.319
Well, UFO cover up is the
mother of all conspiracy theories. Like
2220
03:03:18.600 --> 03:03:26.040
there's nothing bigger maybe nine to eleven. No, not even that UFOs is
2221
03:03:26.079 --> 03:03:30.959
the biggest. If that's ever acknowledged
as real. Like if the government says,
2222
03:03:31.280 --> 03:03:35.959
yeah, we actually have been screwing
with you all these years about UFOs,
2223
03:03:35.600 --> 03:03:39.319
like that's just not going to go. Well, that's not what is
2224
03:03:39.360 --> 03:03:45.799
wanted. So what is allowed in
the current climate of UFO disclosure, and
2225
03:03:45.879 --> 03:03:50.319
what's the red line or the red
lines in other words, what are the
2226
03:03:50.360 --> 03:03:54.360
lines you're not supposed to cross in
terms of public conversation. Let's get into
2227
03:03:54.399 --> 03:04:00.479
it. So what's permissible. Well, where we're at right now, which
2228
03:04:00.520 --> 03:04:05.559
is basically, you know, Elizondo's
great at these statements, there's something going
2229
03:04:05.559 --> 03:04:09.760
on that we just can't explain.
We don't know what it is, Tucker.
2230
03:04:11.680 --> 03:04:16.159
Could it be the Chinese or the
Russians? Well maybe not, but
2231
03:04:16.280 --> 03:04:20.959
what if like that type of thing, this little pretend game that we don't
2232
03:04:22.000 --> 03:04:26.760
know what it is, And of
course he knows what it is. All
2233
03:04:26.840 --> 03:04:31.399
those folks know exactly what it is. They just can't say it because they
2234
03:04:31.479 --> 03:04:35.600
got security clearances and they've got to
deal with this establishment. They're scared.
2235
03:04:37.559 --> 03:04:41.879
It's really simple. So we're at
this level, there's something going on we
2236
03:04:41.959 --> 03:04:46.360
can't explain. Keep in mind,
we were not even there more than three
2237
03:04:46.440 --> 03:04:50.360
and a half years ago. This
is an amazing place for us to be
2238
03:04:50.520 --> 03:04:54.719
as a society, and it's just
baby steps, but it's still like an
2239
03:04:54.760 --> 03:05:01.000
amazing place to be. So that's
where we are, that's what's allowed.
2240
03:05:01.920 --> 03:05:05.079
Are we going to get to other
places? Oh? Yeah, right here,
2241
03:05:07.120 --> 03:05:11.360
this is a step beyond where we
used to be. Step one you
2242
03:05:11.440 --> 03:05:16.639
could say it's all BS, and
step two is well, some of its
2243
03:05:16.680 --> 03:05:22.399
classified military. That's really where we
were. Now we're at step three of
2244
03:05:22.440 --> 03:05:26.879
disclosure, which, yeah, there's
something happening. We just have no idea.
2245
03:05:28.479 --> 03:05:31.360
There's a lot of other stages ahead
of that. I'm going to talk
2246
03:05:31.360 --> 03:05:35.559
about them in a minute. We're
in this weird in between stage right now.
2247
03:05:37.479 --> 03:05:41.440
We're in this kind of quasi sort
of admission, you know, where
2248
03:05:41.440 --> 03:05:46.280
the Navy has said, yeah,
we got these UAP, not the President,
2249
03:05:46.559 --> 03:05:50.719
not the White House, the Navy. It's important, but it's not.
2250
03:05:50.840 --> 03:05:54.879
It's everything where we've come to can
still be walked back. Even now
2251
03:05:54.840 --> 03:05:58.680
there is no necessary inherent reason why
we're going to keep going forward in this.
2252
03:06:00.840 --> 03:06:03.799
You know, this whole thing can
go back. And in fact,
2253
03:06:05.040 --> 03:06:07.440
that last New York Times article looked
to me that it was a walking back
2254
03:06:07.479 --> 03:06:13.239
potentially, and maybe the UAP Task
Force, when it is out soon,
2255
03:06:13.319 --> 03:06:18.319
that might be a walk back.
I don't know, I have no idea
2256
03:06:18.360 --> 03:06:24.600
what's in that thing, but it
could be so anyway, future fallback positions
2257
03:06:24.680 --> 03:06:30.600
or future levels of disclosure, if
you're the establishment and you're on a retreat
2258
03:06:30.600 --> 03:06:33.440
from the enemy, that is,
the people pushing this. You got a
2259
03:06:33.440 --> 03:06:39.840
lot of fallback positions before you really
have to worry. Let's look at them.
2260
03:06:39.159 --> 03:06:43.840
Fall Back position number one is,
Yeah, lately, we've actually had
2261
03:06:43.920 --> 03:06:48.440
quite a few encounters with these things. We're kind of there. We're actually
2262
03:06:48.479 --> 03:06:54.239
sort of there. We're getting there. The UAP Task Force supposedly has got
2263
03:06:54.239 --> 03:07:00.959
something like one hundred and twenty encounters. Of course that's nothing, but to
2264
03:07:01.000 --> 03:07:03.719
say that had one hundred and twenty
encounters over the last twenty years, you
2265
03:07:03.799 --> 03:07:09.319
know, inching up their toward having
a lot of encounters. Next layer or
2266
03:07:09.479 --> 03:07:16.280
fallback position, we actually have studied
some unusual artifacts. We actually have.
2267
03:07:16.479 --> 03:07:22.600
We just don't have any conclusion.
We're working on it. That's an easy
2268
03:07:22.639 --> 03:07:28.000
one. Another one, some of
these UFOs may have come from elsewhere,
2269
03:07:28.959 --> 03:07:33.520
but we don't know anything about them. That's an interesting place. We're edging
2270
03:07:33.520 --> 03:07:37.600
toward that, but we're not there
officially. But that is a place that
2271
03:07:37.639 --> 03:07:43.600
they could go to at some point. That's still a safe place. That's
2272
03:07:43.639 --> 03:07:46.879
still a safe place because it may
have come. Yeah, we think they
2273
03:07:46.920 --> 03:07:52.680
may have come from somewhere else.
We just don't know anything about them.
2274
03:07:52.000 --> 03:07:58.000
Next layer of defense. Well,
we actually had known something about this for
2275
03:07:58.040 --> 03:08:01.200
a little while, but we kept
it quiet because we didn't want to panic
2276
03:08:01.239 --> 03:08:09.399
the public. So again no culpability. Next, we have had military encounters
2277
03:08:09.639 --> 03:08:13.280
actually for years, but we still
don't know much about it. Or we've
2278
03:08:13.319 --> 03:08:20.280
secretly tried studying this for years but
with little progress. Or we've recovered craft
2279
03:08:20.600 --> 03:08:24.120
or maybe even bodies, but with
little progress. We just don't know,
2280
03:08:24.399 --> 03:08:28.760
and we don't want to panic the
world. Or of course, each step
2281
03:08:28.799 --> 03:08:33.840
you're getting into a harder and harder
place to defend without an avalanching on you.
2282
03:08:33.920 --> 03:08:39.440
I mean, that's always the danger
too. Let's keep that in mind
2283
03:08:39.440 --> 03:08:46.079
as we keep going. These are
less secure positions. But nonetheless this becomes
2284
03:08:46.079 --> 03:08:48.959
the new Alamo, the new place
where you can make your last stand.
2285
03:08:50.319 --> 03:08:54.040
Next is, yeah, we actually
have had a long standing cover up.
2286
03:08:54.959 --> 03:08:58.399
We actually have, but all in
the name of public safety. Yeah,
2287
03:08:58.479 --> 03:09:05.040
we've had a extreme secrecy. Yeah, they've been men in black. Yeah,
2288
03:09:05.159 --> 03:09:11.159
there's been corporate involvement, yeah,
Lockheed and the rest, and yes,
2289
03:09:11.440 --> 03:09:16.079
our institutions have been totally corrupted.
At this point, it's going to
2290
03:09:16.120 --> 03:09:22.280
start to fall apart, probably and
you have admission of major breakthroughs, let's
2291
03:09:22.319 --> 03:09:28.399
say, breakaway technology of this sort
or another, you know, antigraph free
2292
03:09:28.559 --> 03:09:33.120
energy, what not. Then an
admission that, well, we actually know
2293
03:09:33.280 --> 03:09:37.120
quite a bit about them, thank
you very much. Yeah, we know
2294
03:09:37.159 --> 03:09:43.000
who they are and what they're all
about. Oh yeah, abductions are real.
2295
03:09:43.040 --> 03:09:48.040
Oh yeah. Consciousness is actually super
important in all of this, and
2296
03:09:48.120 --> 03:09:52.200
we've actually didn't want you to know
that because well that's kind of a useful
2297
03:09:52.200 --> 03:09:56.280
thing for you to know, and
we just didn't really think anyone was ready
2298
03:09:56.280 --> 03:10:01.440
to know some of these secrets.
Or another admission, and this is all
2299
03:10:01.520 --> 03:10:05.840
hypothetical. I don't know for a
fact that these are true, but an
2300
03:10:05.879 --> 03:10:11.440
admission that maybe one or more groups
have you know, take your pick,
2301
03:10:11.719 --> 03:10:16.799
infiltrated, monitored, manipulated us.
And I think I have one more.
2302
03:10:16.840 --> 03:10:22.520
Oh yeah, they're walking among us, and they are deeply embedded in our
2303
03:10:22.600 --> 03:10:28.399
society. And I know that there's
people probably right here who believe that's true.
2304
03:10:28.520 --> 03:10:33.959
I'm one of them. I believe
it's true. Can't prove it,
2305
03:10:33.920 --> 03:10:39.440
but I've had too many stories.
I believe it's unbelievable. I've come my
2306
03:10:39.520 --> 03:10:46.559
way, and I'm just like I
give up. It's true, they're beings
2307
03:10:46.600 --> 03:10:50.440
who look just like us, but
they're not like us. What are they
2308
03:10:50.479 --> 03:10:54.559
doing? Well, that's a whole
interesting thing, isn't it. But they're
2309
03:10:54.600 --> 03:11:00.600
here. Now. Can these admissions
happen? Well, I don't know.
2310
03:11:01.600 --> 03:11:05.680
It could take a long time.
You go all the way down that road.
2311
03:11:05.680 --> 03:11:09.760
I think it's going to take years
if that in many years? Or
2312
03:11:09.799 --> 03:11:15.879
can they be walked back? Yes, they can be walked back. I
2313
03:11:16.000 --> 03:11:20.959
mentioned the problem with recognizing you with
a cover a moment ago some other of
2314
03:11:20.000 --> 03:11:28.000
all conspiracies. You admit that,
then everything is open. I wrote about
2315
03:11:28.000 --> 03:11:31.159
this in a book a little over
a decade ago, ad After Disclosure,
2316
03:11:31.319 --> 03:11:35.520
with Bryce Sable, and that was
one of our main thesis, which was
2317
03:11:35.559 --> 03:11:39.879
simply that if you make this acknowledgment, you open up a can of worms,
2318
03:11:39.879 --> 03:11:43.280
and you don't know where you're going
to come out on the other side
2319
03:11:43.319 --> 03:11:48.000
of this, and that's not a
place that elites like to be. Here's
2320
03:11:48.040 --> 03:11:52.399
a question. You have disclosure without
freedom. What I mean by that is
2321
03:11:52.440 --> 03:11:58.319
moving into a world where we're losing
our freedoms rapidly, like down a slippery
2322
03:11:58.360 --> 03:12:03.040
slope. It's more more than a
slippery slope. At this point, it's
2323
03:12:03.120 --> 03:12:07.479
like a water slide. And if
we lose more and more of these freedoms
2324
03:12:07.479 --> 03:12:11.639
in the coming decade, this decade, are we really going to be able
2325
03:12:11.680 --> 03:12:16.520
to easily have genuine disclosure? I
would just suggest maybe not. What's being
2326
03:12:16.600 --> 03:12:24.200
hidden. I want to talk about
this science is being hidden, revolutionary transformations
2327
03:12:24.200 --> 03:12:30.200
of our society through science is being
hidden. Right now I'll talk about that's
2328
03:12:30.239 --> 03:12:35.440
an illustration of the tic tac ufo. The conventional propulsion technologies cannot explain how
2329
03:12:35.479 --> 03:12:39.719
these objects do, not just the
tick tack, but all of them.
2330
03:12:39.760 --> 03:12:46.360
Throughout the decades. We have no
way to explain instant acceleration silently in the
2331
03:12:46.440 --> 03:12:50.639
thousands of miles per hour. We
just can't do it, not using the
2332
03:12:50.680 --> 03:12:58.200
conventional technologies we have. The acceleration
is the right angle turns all of that.
2333
03:12:58.319 --> 03:13:03.000
The lack of a heat signature frequently
from these things. So a question
2334
03:13:03.120 --> 03:13:07.719
that I will ask you, and
I don't have the definite answer because I'm
2335
03:13:07.719 --> 03:13:13.680
not a scientist anyway. Are UFOs
manipulating the ether? And I know that's
2336
03:13:13.680 --> 03:13:18.639
an old fashioned term from the nineteenth
century. Oh, it's been discredited.
2337
03:13:18.600 --> 03:13:22.360
Well, I don't know about that. I'm not so sure it should be
2338
03:13:22.360 --> 03:13:28.159
discredited, or the zero point energy
field or a super fluid medium to harness
2339
03:13:28.200 --> 03:13:33.319
mass gravity and inertia, which is
what scalar science really is all about.
2340
03:13:35.280 --> 03:13:39.959
Because I think that maybe in the
cards there's Mark McCandlish. So this is
2341
03:13:41.000 --> 03:13:45.520
some of the private notes McCandlish wrote
to my colleague and I just want to
2342
03:13:45.559 --> 03:13:50.399
talk about this, and I'm putting
this out there. So McCandlish was quite
2343
03:13:50.440 --> 03:13:56.920
convinced. So Mark McCandlish was an
aviation illustrator who was one of the best
2344
03:13:56.959 --> 03:14:00.959
in the world at what he did, and I think he's mostly famous for
2345
03:14:01.040 --> 03:14:05.360
his illustration of the so called ar
V, the Alien reproduction vehicle, which
2346
03:14:05.440 --> 03:14:09.920
was a story that came out from
nineteen eighty eight. Sorensen had a friend
2347
03:14:11.000 --> 03:14:16.760
named Bradford Sorensen, who is still
alive. Sorensen is a high level aviation
2348
03:14:16.920 --> 03:14:20.719
industry executive. They were going to
go to an air show in November nineteen
2349
03:14:20.760 --> 03:14:26.879
eighty eight in California and mc candlish
had a last minute deadline he couldn't do
2350
03:14:28.000 --> 03:14:33.879
it. Sorensen goes with a senior
defense official friend of family. They go,
2351
03:14:35.920 --> 03:14:39.920
the official says, hey, I'm
going to take you to an even
2352
03:14:39.920 --> 03:14:45.520
better show. And they go and
they fly to Lockheeds Hanger, known as
2353
03:14:45.559 --> 03:14:50.399
the Big Hangar, and they go
in and there's like guards with them,
2354
03:14:50.440 --> 03:14:54.920
sixteen s everywhere, and the defense
officials are like, WHOA, I didn't
2355
03:14:54.920 --> 03:15:01.120
think the security would be this intense. Don't say anything, I'll get you
2356
03:15:01.200 --> 03:15:05.319
in. They go in and on
one side of the hangar there's a big
2357
03:15:05.360 --> 03:15:11.760
curtain dividing it. On one side
are these losing prototypes, but really amazing
2358
03:15:11.799 --> 03:15:18.079
aircraft, really cool stuff. On
the other side of the curtain. So
2359
03:15:18.200 --> 03:15:22.000
Orensoen goes there and he sees what
he called I think he called it the
2360
03:15:22.040 --> 03:15:28.760
Mama Bear, Papa Bear, baby
bear hovering u f os hovering And as
2361
03:15:28.799 --> 03:15:33.079
he said to mc candlish, he
says, I was pretty amped up.
2362
03:15:33.040 --> 03:15:39.440
I was looking around. I was
like super shot of adrenaline. I looked
2363
03:15:39.440 --> 03:15:46.319
for cables or ropes hanging suspending these
things. There's nothing. They were just
2364
03:15:46.399 --> 03:15:50.799
floating. There was a general at
a podium talking about them, calling them
2365
03:15:50.840 --> 03:15:56.000
the alien reproduction vehicles, saying that
this is nineteen eighty eight, that by
2366
03:15:56.040 --> 03:16:01.079
then they traversed the Solar System.
And he said, when I looked at
2367
03:16:01.120 --> 03:16:05.159
them. They looked like they'd been
put through their paces, kind of beat
2368
03:16:05.239 --> 03:16:09.479
up looking. He gave very detailed
descriptions of McCandlish, who did an illustration
2369
03:16:09.559 --> 03:16:13.760
that's out on the web. What
McCandlish said privately is that one of the
2370
03:16:13.760 --> 03:16:18.799
sources of his stated that the mercury
isotope one hundred and ninety nine was the
2371
03:16:18.879 --> 03:16:24.120
key for working for creating the field
that was necessary to do. Mercury one
2372
03:16:24.280 --> 03:16:28.799
ninety nine is an isotope of mercury
that I'll just read here, and he's
2373
03:16:28.840 --> 03:16:33.840
referring to the researcher Victor Schauberger,
you know who. He was saying this
2374
03:16:35.000 --> 03:16:39.680
was key to understanding how to tap
zero point energy from mercury one ninety nine
2375
03:16:39.680 --> 03:16:46.079
one subjected to high voltage electrical discharges. The witness is Brad Sorenson said those
2376
03:16:46.120 --> 03:16:52.200
discharges were something north of over one
million, two hundred and fifty thousand volts.
2377
03:16:52.920 --> 03:16:56.319
Isotope one ninety nine is said to
have an unusually high nuclear spin ratio.
2378
03:16:58.319 --> 03:17:01.600
Brad said that one characteristic of mercury
vapor from one hundred and ninety nine
2379
03:17:01.840 --> 03:17:05.600
was that it was a noble gas. In other words, that it was
2380
03:17:05.639 --> 03:17:09.920
somewhat inert, which is important because
you wanted not to corrode the material that
2381
03:17:11.040 --> 03:17:16.479
is contained within, so you want
a noble gas inert. Anyway, I'm
2382
03:17:16.559 --> 03:17:20.440
just putting this out there because a
lot of you are much more scientifically literate
2383
03:17:20.479 --> 03:17:24.200
than I am, and mercury one
ninety nine is considered to be an important
2384
03:17:24.200 --> 03:17:30.719
thing. Mc candlish was terrified of
talking too much about this. I will
2385
03:17:30.760 --> 03:17:35.120
say that this is a man named
Kenneth's Shoulders who's not particularly well known,
2386
03:17:35.399 --> 03:17:41.440
although he should be. He discovered
and named these little objects called vos,
2387
03:17:41.760 --> 03:17:48.200
which stands for exotic vacuum objects.
And basically this is important science I think.
2388
03:17:48.239 --> 03:17:52.280
And again I'm not a scientifically highly
literate person, but I try to
2389
03:17:52.399 --> 03:17:58.440
understand these things. So what Ken's
Shoulders did, by the way, helped
2390
03:17:58.479 --> 03:18:03.840
put off work very closely with Ken
Shoulders. Shoulder's work, I think has
2391
03:18:03.879 --> 03:18:07.719
been very important for a lot of
people on the quiet side of things.
2392
03:18:07.239 --> 03:18:11.719
But he proved I'm going to read
this, that a portion of a spark
2393
03:18:11.799 --> 03:18:18.559
discharge consisting of ions and electrons coalesced
into organize geometric structures. They self organized,
2394
03:18:18.760 --> 03:18:26.479
basically, and he called them evi
os exotic vacuum objects they discovered there
2395
03:18:26.520 --> 03:18:31.559
everywhere in nature. They are guided
by the fields induced by their own motion.
2396
03:18:31.680 --> 03:18:37.079
I have a hard time understanding this
myself, so forgive me. But
2397
03:18:37.159 --> 03:18:41.959
they produce anomalies. They can chew
up matter. Think of the Hutchinson effect
2398
03:18:43.159 --> 03:18:48.239
John Hutchinson over in Vancouver, studied
in great detail by John Alexander, one
2399
03:18:48.280 --> 03:18:52.280
of the members of the Bigelow Club. That was an early version of the
2400
03:18:52.319 --> 03:19:00.879
ev O phenomenon. I think uncontrolled
where these some weird effects happen. Evos
2401
03:19:00.959 --> 03:19:07.879
can induce nuclear reactions. Evos can
nullify mass or inertia. If you scale
2402
03:19:07.920 --> 03:19:11.120
up the effects of e vos,
they are analogous to those produced by UFOs.
2403
03:19:13.159 --> 03:19:18.879
They have harmful radiation emissions, electromagnetic
frequencies, violation of Newtonian physics,
2404
03:19:20.239 --> 03:19:24.719
cloaking and more. And if you
scale up the effects of e vos,
2405
03:19:24.000 --> 03:19:30.719
they are analogous. I said that, Oh all right, so I'm fine,
2406
03:19:31.000 --> 03:19:33.280
Now I got it. This is
the thing I just said, with
2407
03:19:33.360 --> 03:19:39.600
a picture of a flying saucer.
Mark mc candlish had this to say essentially
2408
03:19:39.639 --> 03:19:43.280
about e v os, and he
connected to Eric Davis, another member of
2409
03:19:43.319 --> 03:19:50.319
the club. Davis was experimenting with
mercury plasmas or virtual plasma conditions in a
2410
03:19:50.360 --> 03:19:56.840
self organizing vortex configuration like the central
column of the r V. He was
2411
03:19:56.920 --> 03:20:03.399
all set to publish mc candlish was
this word was he had found a way
2412
03:20:03.440 --> 03:20:07.680
to tap zero point energy, and
then suddenly the paper was classified. Just
2413
03:20:07.799 --> 03:20:13.440
interesting stuff to put out there.
Could there be a breakthrough in secrecy and
2414
03:20:13.479 --> 03:20:18.680
disclosure. So one problem facing the
task force right now, at least this
2415
03:20:18.840 --> 03:20:24.280
is the impression that we're all getting
the word is, let's say, first
2416
03:20:24.280 --> 03:20:28.360
of all, do the people doing
the task force even have the clearances necessary
2417
03:20:28.360 --> 03:20:33.280
or can they even get them in
time? Six months not a long period
2418
03:20:33.319 --> 03:20:37.319
of time to get the clearances to
go through that whole Pentagon, the Pentagon's
2419
03:20:37.360 --> 03:20:45.040
maze like structure. Probably not,
really, probably not. Will they have
2420
03:20:45.079 --> 03:20:50.000
an ability to get into Lockheed's bag
of goodies? Certainly not, or Boeing's
2421
03:20:50.079 --> 03:20:56.399
or TRW's and all those other corporations. I don't think so. So despite
2422
03:20:56.399 --> 03:21:01.200
any of the smoke that comes out, you're not going to get genuine confirmation.
2423
03:21:01.280 --> 03:21:03.920
I don't think it's going to be
happening for a very long time.
2424
03:21:05.959 --> 03:21:09.280
I think we're going to be more
in this Nebulus. Well, yeah,
2425
03:21:09.360 --> 03:21:13.159
it looks like maybe kind of sort
of who knows, but I think we're
2426
03:21:13.159 --> 03:21:18.040
going to be in this phase.
Is Christopher Melon. He had a very
2427
03:21:18.079 --> 03:21:24.600
interesting statement. Christopher Melon wasn't just
in TTSA. He was, as I
2428
03:21:24.680 --> 03:21:28.959
write here, he was a member
of the General Senior Review group of organizations
2429
03:21:30.000 --> 03:21:35.280
called SAPPOK. That's the Special Access
Program Oversight Committee. That's one of the
2430
03:21:35.319 --> 03:21:39.000
key things listed in the Davis Wilson
notes I talked about earlier, where the
2431
03:21:39.040 --> 03:21:45.680
secrets are kept. The programs in
the Pentagon are monitored with basically no oversight.
2432
03:21:46.760 --> 03:21:48.840
Melon says this, if it were
me and I were trying to bury
2433
03:21:48.840 --> 03:21:54.760
it deep, I'd take it outside
government oversight entirely and place it in a
2434
03:21:54.799 --> 03:22:00.000
compartment as a new entity within an
existing defense company, and manage it as
2435
03:22:00.120 --> 03:22:05.000
what we call an IRAD, or
an independent research and development activity. I
2436
03:22:05.200 --> 03:22:11.639
just wonder, can most UFO reverse
engineering programs be taking place in irads totally
2437
03:22:11.680 --> 03:22:16.079
off limits from any kind of oversight. I'm going to guess the answer is
2438
03:22:16.120 --> 03:22:20.920
probably yes, or something analogous to
that. This is a window closing for
2439
03:22:22.079 --> 03:22:28.399
us. We keep talking about the
momentum disclosure is inevitable. It's not inevitable.
2440
03:22:30.360 --> 03:22:33.280
I mean, it could happen,
but it doesn't have to happen.
2441
03:22:33.280 --> 03:22:39.840
A You've got big tech censorship,
global clampdown of non authoritative sources of information.
2442
03:22:39.920 --> 03:22:43.959
I get dinged on YouTube all the
time because of that. I'm not
2443
03:22:45.040 --> 03:22:50.360
authoritative. I'm not CBS News or
whatever, and I'm not snops or what
2444
03:22:50.479 --> 03:22:54.959
have you. We're seeing this happen
all around, and it's really becoming a
2445
03:22:54.000 --> 03:23:01.520
stifling environment, not just on YouTube
but pretty much everywhere. You've got deletion
2446
03:23:01.639 --> 03:23:07.239
of social media YouTube accounts that an
alarming rate. You've got manipulation of search
2447
03:23:07.280 --> 03:23:15.559
engines. Google is absolutely dishonest algorithms
in YouTube. It's ridiculous. YouTube,
2448
03:23:15.559 --> 03:23:20.120
of course is owned by Google.
If you go to YouTube and you type
2449
03:23:20.159 --> 03:23:24.159
in UFO, I mean, it's
just absurdly bad. Now, it's horrible.
2450
03:23:26.159 --> 03:23:30.440
The last five years, it's just
been bad to worse. You get
2451
03:23:30.440 --> 03:23:33.920
all corporate media, all the results, like all the actual interesting stuff is
2452
03:23:35.000 --> 03:23:41.920
pages pages down. It's terrible.
It's all intentional. I'm going to skip
2453
03:23:41.959 --> 03:23:46.399
the rest of this. We're getting
out of time. I want to look
2454
03:23:46.399 --> 03:23:50.680
ahead to the world in just nine
years from now, twenty thirty. What
2455
03:23:50.760 --> 03:23:56.319
are we going to see in the
world. Well, this is my thoughts.
2456
03:23:56.600 --> 03:23:58.879
I think we're likely going to see
a continuation in the greater and greater
2457
03:24:00.079 --> 03:24:05.239
power of international bodies over national governments. I think we're going to see greater
2458
03:24:05.319 --> 03:24:11.319
and greater global surveillance and control efforts
by national governments over you through five G
2459
03:24:11.719 --> 03:24:18.280
artificial intelligence and all of that.
There's no escape. It's going to be
2460
03:24:18.319 --> 03:24:22.920
tough to escape. You really have
to figure this out. Greater control over
2461
03:24:22.959 --> 03:24:30.040
public narratives in every possible function,
every way, elimination of the non authoritative
2462
03:24:30.079 --> 03:24:35.799
perspectives. One interesting statement by Eric
Schmidt of Google. He's talking about Google
2463
03:24:35.799 --> 03:24:41.280
Echo. That's their version of Alexa. Right, this is a very interesting
2464
03:24:41.319 --> 03:24:46.319
thing you said. It's like,
what we want is that when you ask
2465
03:24:46.360 --> 03:24:52.319
Google Echo a question, you get
one of them authoritative answers. We want
2466
03:24:52.399 --> 03:24:56.600
to make it easy for you.
You think about how crazy and messed up
2467
03:24:56.600 --> 03:25:01.280
that is. What kind of reality
is so simplified that any time you ask
2468
03:25:01.319 --> 03:25:07.120
a question you get one single answer. I mean, life isn't that way.
2469
03:25:07.200 --> 03:25:11.719
Life is shades of color and gray
and so forth. But what they're
2470
03:25:11.719 --> 03:25:18.159
doing is training the next future generations
to just expect a single answer. Don't
2471
03:25:18.159 --> 03:25:24.520
bother with research, Ask a single
question, It'll give you the answer.
2472
03:25:24.479 --> 03:25:28.920
You don't have to bother digging into
the weeds of these issues anymore. Don't
2473
03:25:28.920 --> 03:25:33.120
worry about your critical thinking skills.
We're going to take care of it for
2474
03:25:33.200 --> 03:25:39.200
you. Give you the one answer
that was Schmidt's answer, and that's the
2475
03:25:39.239 --> 03:25:45.920
world we're moving into. So we're
taking away critical thinking skills of future generations,
2476
03:25:46.079 --> 03:25:50.879
aside from raising them in the stultifying, totalitarian environments in which kids don't
2477
03:25:50.920 --> 03:25:58.000
even have the right to play freely
without adult supervision anymore. You talk about
2478
03:25:58.000 --> 03:26:01.639
a crime against future generations, how
about putting that near the top of the
2479
03:26:01.680 --> 03:26:09.719
list. My God, greater control
over public narratives, so I just said
2480
03:26:09.719 --> 03:26:16.559
that, and then far greater ability
to identify people via numerous technologies facial recognition,
2481
03:26:16.639 --> 03:26:20.719
voice wreck. I mean, even
beyond that, they'll be able to
2482
03:26:20.760 --> 03:26:26.840
identify you by your manner of walk, your style of gait, or anything.
2483
03:26:26.879 --> 03:26:31.959
The sky is the limit here,
so you'll be tracked forever, and
2484
03:26:33.040 --> 03:26:37.399
your kids and your grandchildren and your
great grandchildren in the immediate future. I
2485
03:26:37.440 --> 03:26:43.639
am personally someone who doesn't have a
lot of faith in the global economic situation.
2486
03:26:43.799 --> 03:26:48.559
I think governments around the world just
printing money through oblivion. I can't
2487
03:26:48.559 --> 03:26:52.799
see good coming out of that at
any way at all. Ditto the fact
2488
03:26:52.879 --> 03:26:58.719
that fifty percent of all fifty percent
of all businesses that have shuddered during COVID
2489
03:26:58.600 --> 03:27:03.479
are expected not to reopen ever.
Talk about a body blow to the healthy
2490
03:27:03.520 --> 03:27:11.280
economy. Everyone living on their stimmy
checks and UBI that's happening because the jobs
2491
03:27:11.280 --> 03:27:15.040
aren't going to be there. They're
just not going to be there anymore.
2492
03:27:16.000 --> 03:27:20.840
And yes, I know, I
know everyone says, well, we've heard
2493
03:27:20.840 --> 03:27:28.200
this all along in new technologies come
along in theirs new jobs. But look,
2494
03:27:28.440 --> 03:27:33.000
I'm sorry, I'm just not buying
this one. There's too many algorithms
2495
03:27:33.040 --> 03:27:37.360
coming along to take away too many
jobs, and I just don't think you're
2496
03:27:37.399 --> 03:27:43.479
going to have enough positions to occupy
people in any kind of meaningful way.
2497
03:27:43.520 --> 03:27:48.399
I just don't see it happening.
I'd love to be wrong. So what
2498
03:27:48.440 --> 03:27:52.440
I'm saying is that for the next
decade, we're going to see ongoing crises
2499
03:27:52.479 --> 03:28:01.600
getting worse. The economic crises will
accentuate, exacerbate social crisis, cultural crises,
2500
03:28:01.600 --> 03:28:07.040
ideological crises. I hate you.
I hate you back, and so
2501
03:28:07.120 --> 03:28:13.360
on, a breakdown of the culture. We have a broken culture. Culture
2502
03:28:13.440 --> 03:28:20.280
is broken, probably broke down five
six years ago, but I think it's
2503
03:28:20.399 --> 03:28:26.120
just accelerated. For me, I
think twenty fourteen twenty fifteen is when you
2504
03:28:26.120 --> 03:28:30.399
could really start seeing it happen in
a big way, to the point where
2505
03:28:30.600 --> 03:28:35.159
you know, two sides hate each
other so much. I mean, yes,
2506
03:28:35.479 --> 03:28:39.760
it's always been the kind of arguments. I've started a point now where
2507
03:28:39.760 --> 03:28:45.440
the other side is not being demonized
and almost literally dehumanized to a point that
2508
03:28:45.559 --> 03:28:50.000
is frightening to me. Excuse me
to death. It's a bad situation to
2509
03:28:50.040 --> 03:28:54.399
be in now. I do think
in the UFO side of it, there's
2510
03:28:54.440 --> 03:28:58.200
going to be more data that will
be released. I think that there is
2511
03:28:58.319 --> 03:29:03.639
enough momentum now that in the UFO
side of it will see increasing amount of
2512
03:29:03.680 --> 03:29:07.719
information coming out. How much to
push it over the edge, though,
2513
03:29:07.799 --> 03:29:13.120
is the real question, because as
I was trying to explain, there are
2514
03:29:13.159 --> 03:29:18.920
many fallback positions that the establishment can
take to just delay this, like basically
2515
03:29:18.959 --> 03:29:24.040
forever. It's more close to over
a long time, and I'm sure at
2516
03:29:24.040 --> 03:29:28.239
some point all of the truth will
come out because it just did well it
2517
03:29:28.280 --> 03:29:31.079
can't do it forever. But I
believe that it's in the interest of the
2518
03:29:31.079 --> 03:29:35.920
people running the show, whether they
are all human or not, to delay
2519
03:29:35.959 --> 03:29:41.479
this as long as possible. So
it's also possible in the coming decade that
2520
03:29:41.559 --> 03:29:46.680
we may have gotten to a point
of no return within even the ordinary media.
2521
03:29:46.319 --> 03:29:50.799
The media is controlled, but is
it how fully controlled is it?
2522
03:29:50.799 --> 03:29:54.159
I think we make a mistake when
we think all of the media is always
2523
03:29:54.200 --> 03:30:00.360
controlled. I think that's a simplistic
way to look at it. I would
2524
03:30:00.360 --> 03:30:05.520
say the dominant establishment media is basically
controlled, yes, for the most part,
2525
03:30:07.520 --> 03:30:11.639
but even then not, I don't
think entirely. What we have to
2526
03:30:11.680 --> 03:30:16.120
remember is no ruling elite is monolithic. It's never existed in history, not
2527
03:30:16.280 --> 03:30:22.719
ever. Not in ancient Rome.
You've got Caesar against Pompey against Crassus and
2528
03:30:22.799 --> 03:30:30.120
all the factions. They don't agree, No one agrees. They don't agree.
2529
03:30:30.159 --> 03:30:35.120
Now in history of UFO phenomenon,
go back to the nineteen fifties,
2530
03:30:35.159 --> 03:30:39.680
Donald Quiho, the great writer back
then, wrote about all the factions that
2531
03:30:39.799 --> 03:30:46.520
existed. There was a secrecy faction, Yeah they were dominant, but there
2532
03:30:46.600 --> 03:30:52.079
was also an anti secretity faction,
high level people within the Pentagon, within
2533
03:30:52.120 --> 03:30:58.799
the military, they believed in breaking
the UFO secret. They did. It's
2534
03:30:58.840 --> 03:31:03.040
always been there, so it's and
within the media there are yes, most
2535
03:31:03.040 --> 03:31:09.879
of the establishment media is not friendly, but some of it is and they
2536
03:31:09.920 --> 03:31:15.200
have to be careful, but they're
not. It's not monolithic. There are
2537
03:31:15.239 --> 03:31:20.799
always splinter groups always, so I
think when we there's always a danger of
2538
03:31:20.840 --> 03:31:24.680
these knee jerk reactions. Last thing
I want to say, this is important
2539
03:31:24.680 --> 03:31:30.479
for me and I just want to
share this with you. I feel that
2540
03:31:30.520 --> 03:31:35.479
we've moved into a kind of very
toxic postmodernist view of how we look at
2541
03:31:35.520 --> 03:31:39.760
the world, and this invaded the
u f O mentality. So what I
2542
03:31:39.840 --> 03:31:43.840
mean by that is simply in what
we call postmodern poison. It's the poison
2543
03:31:45.799 --> 03:31:50.280
kill for your mind. It's a
situation where you deconstruct really the words that
2544
03:31:50.319 --> 03:31:56.520
the other person gives you. What
does that mean? Well, the implication
2545
03:31:56.760 --> 03:32:00.799
is that whatever they're saying to you
is really not what they mean. You've
2546
03:32:00.799 --> 03:32:03.799
got to figure out their secret motivations
and what they're actually trying to say and
2547
03:32:05.040 --> 03:32:09.559
do. That's a great way to
wreck a relationship. It's a great way
2548
03:32:09.600 --> 03:32:15.360
to wreck a friendship. It's a
great way to wreck a society as well,
2549
03:32:15.680 --> 03:32:20.600
just going to say, because what
you're doing you replace listening with suspicion.
2550
03:32:20.600 --> 03:32:24.799
That's actually what you're doing. If
you don't have a successful society,
2551
03:32:24.959 --> 03:32:28.719
you've got to listen to each other. You have to communicate, and you
2552
03:32:28.799 --> 03:32:33.760
have to listen. You have to
argue, you've got to come to resolution,
2553
03:32:33.920 --> 03:32:39.000
and you don't demonize the other person, by the way, because you're
2554
03:32:39.120 --> 03:32:41.000
just as flawed as they are,
and you've just got as much black shit
2555
03:32:41.079 --> 03:32:46.079
in your hard as they do.
And never kid yourself. We all do.
2556
03:32:48.239 --> 03:32:52.879
That's why we're human beings and not
angels, because that's what we are.
2557
03:32:52.879 --> 03:32:58.200
We're all flawed, limited human beings, but with a postmodernist attitude with
2558
03:32:58.239 --> 03:33:03.639
a new apology. Essentially, what
we're doing is instead of listening to someone,
2559
03:33:03.840 --> 03:33:09.639
we're like, oh, they're part
of the essential intelligence agency or they
2560
03:33:09.639 --> 03:33:15.360
were part of the intelligence community.
Therefore we must never listen to them.
2561
03:33:15.639 --> 03:33:18.360
Well, with an attitude like that, you will never get an inside whistleblower.
2562
03:33:18.360 --> 03:33:24.520
Ever, like, don't even bother
you know, ten years ago in
2563
03:33:24.600 --> 03:33:26.760
our field, a lot of us
would talk and think, wouldn't it be
2564
03:33:28.840 --> 03:33:33.399
great if we had an inside government
whistleblower. Wouldn't that be awesome? Well,
2565
03:33:33.719 --> 03:33:37.639
now they come out and people are
throwing rotten tomatoes at them saying dis
2566
03:33:37.639 --> 03:33:45.760
info, liar siah, false flag, false flags happen. But like you
2567
03:33:45.840 --> 03:33:48.040
got to listen to the information and
at least take it in and test it,
2568
03:33:48.280 --> 03:33:54.360
corroborate it. Ask yourself, is
this true? Is this bs?
2569
03:33:54.959 --> 03:34:01.239
Thank you? I got five minutes
anyway, So I think that we have
2570
03:34:01.319 --> 03:34:07.559
poisoned ourselves as a community because we
don't listen. We just suspect. And
2571
03:34:07.639 --> 03:34:11.239
the thing is, like, you
got these people, like I know what
2572
03:34:11.280 --> 03:34:16.799
their secret motivations are, Like,
yeah, I can crawl inside that persons
2573
03:34:16.799 --> 03:34:22.000
head, inside their soul, and
I actually know what they're thinking. Sure
2574
03:34:22.040 --> 03:34:28.000
you do, I know what they're
testify. All right, let me get
2575
03:34:28.040 --> 03:34:33.959
off my little hobby horse here.
I am almost wrapping it up. I
2576
03:34:33.000 --> 03:34:39.319
got to go fast. So yeah, so where I'm moving things forward,
2577
03:34:39.479 --> 03:34:43.920
will there be enough to get to
the actual red line of disclosure that is
2578
03:34:43.959 --> 03:34:50.280
admission of basically bodies crash retrievals.
Once you start admitting you got crash retrievals,
2579
03:34:50.479 --> 03:34:54.319
you're going to have a hard time
pretending that you haven't had a cover
2580
03:34:54.479 --> 03:34:58.280
up. You know that's going to
be the difficulty. And why are we
2581
03:34:58.319 --> 03:35:01.600
going to get there? I don't
know if we're going to get there.
2582
03:35:03.639 --> 03:35:07.760
I have no idea. We came
really close last summer. Do we have
2583
03:35:07.920 --> 03:35:13.360
enough? Well, I'm going to
have to be quick. Here, here's
2584
03:35:13.360 --> 03:35:16.479
what we have to do. You
want a real breakthrough, then some people
2585
03:35:16.520 --> 03:35:22.200
are going to have to get really
brave and maybe even a little reckless with
2586
03:35:22.239 --> 03:35:26.159
their security clearances. They're just going
to have to do it. They have
2587
03:35:26.280 --> 03:35:31.360
to step over the line and say
what they know. Someone's going to have
2588
03:35:31.440 --> 03:35:35.120
to do it, and no one's
doing it over in that community. I
2589
03:35:35.159 --> 03:35:41.559
think of Eric Davis, and I'm
not calling him out. I respect Eric
2590
03:35:41.639 --> 03:35:46.399
Davis. I think he's a brilliant
man, and actually he has a genius
2591
03:35:46.399 --> 03:35:52.120
for saying everything that he can say
without going over that line. He's really
2592
03:35:52.159 --> 03:35:56.920
good at that. He's amazing at
that. He goes through all of his
2593
03:35:58.000 --> 03:36:01.639
interviews, statements and you know,
ooh, he was partially read into a
2594
03:36:01.840 --> 03:36:09.920
UFO special access program. And he
stated this by former executive vice president of
2595
03:36:09.959 --> 03:36:16.479
the Legacy Aerospace Corporation probably Lockheed,
who also saw a UFO with his family
2596
03:36:16.520 --> 03:36:20.280
in the ocean near Sunnyvale, California. We know this because he said it.
2597
03:36:22.200 --> 03:36:24.760
But Davis doesn't want to share this
information in a manner that would threaten
2598
03:36:24.799 --> 03:36:31.559
his clearance, anger the special access
programs, or break competences. I get
2599
03:36:31.600 --> 03:36:37.120
that, we'll get that. But
someone's got to do someone's got to step
2600
03:36:37.159 --> 03:36:43.239
over the line, and it's dangerous. So it's not for me to say,
2601
03:36:43.440 --> 03:36:46.719
yeah, you should threaten your family
and your career, but that's probably
2602
03:36:46.760 --> 03:36:50.559
what's going to be needed, because
if no one does it, we're going
2603
03:36:50.600 --> 03:36:56.319
to continue on to this system of
legal illegality, which is what we've got.
2604
03:36:56.319 --> 03:37:01.079
It's legal illegality. It's totally illegal, except they're allowed to do it.
2605
03:37:03.040 --> 03:37:07.440
The way that the secret is hired
secretly is maintained rather so black Swan
2606
03:37:07.520 --> 03:37:13.200
scenarios is a couple, I guess
basically, I just mentioned one. Someone
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just breaks their line, someone just
admits what they know. Could it be
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03:37:18.360 --> 03:37:26.120
Colin Powell, Thomas Wilson, any
of the former CIA directors. Could it
2609
03:37:26.159 --> 03:37:31.239
be General William McCaslin, who's he's
another interesting guy. I don't know.
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Probably not, but things can come
out of nowhere. Not everything is predictable.
2611
03:37:39.239 --> 03:37:41.840
That's the great thing about living in
three D reality in a timeline where
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03:37:41.840 --> 03:37:48.559
you don't know what's going to happen. We don't know the future. We're
2613
03:37:48.680 --> 03:37:54.680
terribly bad at predicting it, myself
included. There's a couple of scenarios that
2614
03:37:54.719 --> 03:37:58.440
I see. Scenario one, let's
say ten years from now, is that
2615
03:37:58.520 --> 03:38:05.479
the secret continues. How is that
Well, you'll have a continued slow drip
2616
03:38:05.520 --> 03:38:09.239
of the evidence and awareness gets raised
bit by bit, but it doesn't force
2617
03:38:09.280 --> 03:38:13.479
the powers that be into admitting to
anything. That's where we are now,
2618
03:38:15.399 --> 03:38:18.000
and I think that can continue for
at least another decade, maybe more.
2619
03:38:20.000 --> 03:38:24.399
It is possible. Here's maybe the
one false flaggy siapy aspect that some of
2620
03:38:24.440 --> 03:38:30.319
the people claim that could be true, which is that awareness is raised enough
2621
03:38:30.360 --> 03:38:33.799
of this phenomenon, we're starting to
think, yeah, it looks like there's
2622
03:38:33.799 --> 03:38:39.799
something there that you might get some
politicians saying, well, we need to
2623
03:38:39.879 --> 03:38:43.680
raise a military budget to a military
space. Yeah, they might do that.
2624
03:38:45.799 --> 03:38:48.799
It's possible. I don't know if
that's a true sigh up or not,
2625
03:38:50.239 --> 03:38:54.680
or just opportunism, which I would
say is more likely than that.
2626
03:38:54.799 --> 03:39:00.319
And then on the bottom, I
think this is the most important the secrecy
2627
03:39:00.479 --> 03:39:05.040
can easily be maintained by the continuation
of the global system of control that's coming
2628
03:39:05.040 --> 03:39:11.440
into place. You maintain powerful control
over all digital and private communications, et
2629
03:39:11.440 --> 03:39:16.959
cetera, et cetera. You can
do it. Scenario number two might be
2630
03:39:18.000 --> 03:39:22.719
disclosure of some sort, some significant
sort, and it could happen. I
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03:39:22.840 --> 03:39:28.959
mean, it's conceivable. The momentum
that started could continue to chip away,
2632
03:39:28.959 --> 03:39:33.719
and one can lead to another.
Someone else can be encouraged to come forward
2633
03:39:33.760 --> 03:39:39.120
because someone else has done so.
Yes, that can happen. It can
2634
03:39:39.159 --> 03:39:43.879
happen, and it can start an
avalanche effect, which really was the theme
2635
03:39:43.959 --> 03:39:50.239
of my book after Disclosure eleven years
ago. I thought, one big thing
2636
03:39:50.319 --> 03:39:56.680
that comes out, it'll cause an
avalanche. That has not happened. That
2637
03:39:56.920 --> 03:40:01.000
was my false I just assumed in
two thous ten that an avalanche would happen.
2638
03:40:03.000 --> 03:40:07.840
I was wrong. But it still
can't happen. And if it does,
2639
03:40:07.159 --> 03:40:11.920
boy duck, because this kind of
get crazy. It'll be a crazy
2640
03:40:11.959 --> 03:40:16.319
world. And we like to you
know, we have a lot of utopian
2641
03:40:16.360 --> 03:40:22.319
tendencies among all of us. We
want things to be all perfect and everything
2642
03:40:22.399 --> 03:40:26.920
and solve our problems. We're never
going to solve all our problems. I'm
2643
03:40:26.959 --> 03:40:31.760
sorry. I'm just one of those
people. I don't believe we're going to
2644
03:40:31.799 --> 03:40:37.760
solve all of our problems. And
that's fine. We're not supposed to.
2645
03:40:37.840 --> 03:40:45.200
You know, we're not gods.
We're not transhumanist forever living people. By
2646
03:40:45.239 --> 03:40:50.120
the way, those transhumanists, they
really scare me to death. You want
2647
03:40:50.159 --> 03:40:56.639
to live forever, you'll lose your
mind. I guarantee it one hundred and
2648
03:40:56.719 --> 03:41:03.680
fifty two hundred years. You're not
supposed to live forever. You'll go insane.
2649
03:41:03.879 --> 03:41:07.680
You will go insane. You're not
designed to do that. We're just
2650
03:41:07.760 --> 03:41:15.760
not This is my opinion anyway,
No utopia. Let's not fall into that.
2651
03:41:16.040 --> 03:41:20.680
Please. There will be dramatic consequences
from disclosure, and some of them
2652
03:41:20.719 --> 03:41:26.799
will be good and some of them
won't be good. That's life. Now.
2653
03:41:26.920 --> 03:41:30.239
There is a worse scenario, what
I call the unthinkable, but it
2654
03:41:30.280 --> 03:41:35.760
isn't unthinkable if in the next decade
our society gets into some serious crisis action.
2655
03:41:35.159 --> 03:41:39.920
You know, let's say Pakistan and
India get into it, or South
2656
03:41:41.040 --> 03:41:46.479
China seaflares up, or I don't
know, some of the crazy stuff happens,
2657
03:41:46.760 --> 03:41:50.559
maybe in Eastern Europe. Don bas
or Belarus or whatever, and or
2658
03:41:50.600 --> 03:41:56.440
you just have an economic collapse because
we're on the precipice of that amount of
2659
03:41:56.520 --> 03:42:01.159
time, thank you, which would
result in you know, major unrest,
2660
03:42:01.440 --> 03:42:07.239
totalitarian control, or even worse,
who there hell knows. Or we have
2661
03:42:07.360 --> 03:42:13.719
something better, I'm just about done, thank you, Carla. We avoid
2662
03:42:13.760 --> 03:42:18.360
a major collapse through some miracle Deis
x Makina, God comes down and says
2663
03:42:18.639 --> 03:42:24.360
I'm going to fix everything. Yeah, maybe okay. Or we are able
2664
03:42:24.399 --> 03:42:30.799
to expose substantial elements of the secret
or we and that results in a massive
2665
03:42:30.840 --> 03:42:35.079
reevaluation of our society to some extent
where we can fix at least some of
2666
03:42:35.120 --> 03:42:41.040
our problems. We're not going to
fix all of them. We're never going
2667
03:42:41.079 --> 03:42:45.719
to fix all of them. That
would be great, That would be great
2668
03:42:46.760 --> 03:42:50.479
if we actually don't collapse, we
don't fall into mad Max, and we
2669
03:42:50.559 --> 03:42:54.920
actually get maybe a transportation infrastructure back, or we get some other good things
2670
03:42:54.959 --> 03:43:01.840
happening, and we can actually fix
some things. Genuinely, I would consider
2671
03:43:01.879 --> 03:43:07.440
that a major win. Bottom line, unprecedented challenges are ahead, great danger
2672
03:43:07.479 --> 03:43:13.719
of a further broken culture. Maybe
we can fix it. It's possible.
2673
03:43:13.840 --> 03:43:20.200
I suppose I write here separated from
our true nature and selves. Yeah,
2674
03:43:20.319 --> 03:43:26.319
for me, like moving into a
techno dystopia VR augmented reality future. That's
2675
03:43:26.479 --> 03:43:31.440
like, that's the worst separate use
from your inner self, your inner being.
2676
03:43:31.440 --> 03:43:37.760
I'm not a pass I slid into
our virtual world's ideological bubbles propagans twenty
2677
03:43:37.760 --> 03:43:43.920
four to seven and meshed within a
fictitious, controlled, artificial world. Yeah,
2678
03:43:45.079 --> 03:43:50.600
we all know what will happen if
disclosure happens within that world. What
2679
03:43:50.719 --> 03:43:54.639
if the aliens and ourselves do a
virtual reality instead of in the flesh on
2680
03:43:54.680 --> 03:43:58.680
a podium. I wonder if that
will happen. Everyone's like living in their
2681
03:43:58.680 --> 03:44:03.719
ready player one world. And last
question to think about, will we achieve
2682
03:44:03.760 --> 03:44:09.399
disclosure just as we lose our old
humanity and become the aliens that we've observed
2683
03:44:09.440 --> 03:44:13.920
all this time? Or will we
find a way to achieve meaningful public truth
2684
03:44:15.000 --> 03:44:20.479
while maintaining freedom, dignity, and
our fundamental humanity. That's the real question,
2685
03:44:20.639 --> 03:44:24.719
because I'll tell you what I don't
want. I don't want disclosure living
2686
03:44:24.760 --> 03:44:31.879
in a totalitarian society where I'm digitally
controlled. What do we do well?
2687
03:44:31.000 --> 03:44:37.319
That's going to be my next lecture. Oh, final question, how can
2688
03:44:37.360 --> 03:44:39.520
we expect to come to an understanding
of all the beings that are here.
2689
03:44:41.520 --> 03:44:45.799
I mean, talk about those guys. I wrote about it in the Alien
2690
03:44:45.840 --> 03:44:52.120
Agenda. You can read that.
It's on Amazon. Those that are physically
2691
03:44:52.159 --> 03:44:58.000
here interacting in a covert manner with
our society and our people. What are
2692
03:44:58.000 --> 03:45:03.319
their motivations, what are their goals? What's their scale of operation? We
2693
03:45:03.399 --> 03:45:07.879
don't even ask that question ninety nine
percent of the time. I ask it
2694
03:45:07.959 --> 03:45:13.000
sometimes, and I ask it in
my last book. So those are just
2695
03:45:13.120 --> 03:45:18.360
interesting things to ask about. They're
not all discarnet consciousness entities. Some of
2696
03:45:18.399 --> 03:45:22.959
them are physical doing things right down
here on the ground. And I'm saying
2697
03:45:24.000 --> 03:45:28.799
both types don't exist. I think
both types do exist. But the ones
2698
03:45:28.840 --> 03:45:33.680
that I'm immediately concerned with are the
ones that are acting here in the flesh
2699
03:45:33.760 --> 03:45:39.319
and in their tech. That's the
ones I'm particularly concerned with. Thank you,
2700
03:45:39.520 --> 03:45:46.520
very very very very much for being
here. Hey Trump, was she
2701
03:45:46.600 --> 03:45:52.040
a hair puller? Thanks for joining
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2702
03:45:52.079 --> 03:45:56.479
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