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The man who wrote the last book of the Bible
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worshipped an angel, and he did it twice. He had
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already seen the risen Christ face to face, standing among
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seven golden lampstands with eyes like a flame of fire,
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and he still got it wrong. Then he wrote both
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failures into the book with his own name attached. That
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should unsettle anyone who assumes the danger lives somewhere else
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among people who don't know any better. If the apostle
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who saw the most could be pulled into worshiping the
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wrong thing, then the angel numbers on your phone, the
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spirit guides your coworker swears by, and the talking artificial Jesus,
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a chapel in Switzerland put inside a confession booth, is
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not harmless curiosities, right? They are the same pole, and
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it has never once announced itself as a threat. There's
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a Hebrew scroll from a cave near the Dead Sea
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with a line that orders the gods to bow down,
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and there's a church, a council that met in one
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of the very cities John wrote to, and still had
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to outlaw praying to angels almost three centuries after he
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warned them. The question I'm holding on to till the
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very end is this one. How does a man who
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has seen Jesus make that mistake twice? And why would
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he put both failures in writing? By the time we're
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done this morning, you'll know, and you'll know the one
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test every true angel has. I spent years in corporate
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and executive security and protection work. Protection work teaches you
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something about people that you can't unlearn. When someone important
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walks into the room, the crowd's eyes almost never go
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to the right person. They go to whoever looks the part,
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the best suit, the most confident walk, the man at
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the front of the group who carries himself like he's
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in charge. Meanwhile, the person who actually matters moves through
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the room almost unnoticed. You learn to watch for that
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because it's where mistakes get made. And if I'm honest,
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the hardest part wasn't catching other people doing it. It
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was catching myself. Impressive? and important are not the same thing.
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And the human eye is very, very, very bad at
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telling them apart. Good morning and welcome to Sunday Seeds.
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This is your first time on Sunday with us. This
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is the one day of the week this channel isn't
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investigating anything. Monday through Saturday, we open files. We go
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through old manuscripts and strange reports and arguments that have
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been running for 2,000 years, okay? And we try to
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sort out what holds weight. Sunday is something else. No case,
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no proof, just the book, prayer, and the people who
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show up. And, I mean, we kind of set up
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the week, right? But, yeah, either way. I'm grateful you're
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one of them and that you're here. You could have
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put on anything this morning, and I don't take that
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for granted that you choose to spend this time here.
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Wherever you're watching or listening from a kitchen table, truck cab,
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hospital waiting room, you're part of this. It's built with
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you in mind. And before we're done, I'm going to
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ask what you'd like us to pray about. So, Last week,
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we spent five days with Jesus in the revealed one,
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following him from Bethlehem all the way down through the
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gates of the dead. This week, we're starting a series
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called the Elohim, over four episodes. Plus this one, we're
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going to walk through every kind of being the Bible
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places in the unseen realm, and a good number of
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beings that other traditions place there too. OK, so tomorrow, Monday,
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we start with the word itself. Elohim is the word
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in the first verse of the Bible. In the beginning, God.
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It's also a word the Bible uses more than once
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for beings that are not the God of Israel. So
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we'll start with what the word means and what it
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does and what it doesn't mean. And then we'll go
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through the ranks of Scripture. actually names, right? Cherubim, seraphim,
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the ones it calls the holy ones and the watchers,
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and we'll look at how people tried to organize all
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of it. Afterward, from the 6th century Christian mystic who
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gave the church its nine choirs of angels to a
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medieval rabbi who counted ten. Tuesday is the archangels Michael
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and Gabriel who are named in scripture and the ones
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whose names come from outside like Raphael and Uriel and
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the others and whose name, those same names turn up
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in places you would never expect a Christian to go looking.
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So Wednesday is the fallen. We've already told the story
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of Rebellion on this channel. So this isn't a retelling.
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It's closer to a field guide. Who the fallen are,
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how different traditions name and rank them, and what has
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actually been documented when people say they've encountered one. Thursday,
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our guest conversation. I'm trying to think. I think it's
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Kyle Milholland is who it'll be. And then Friday is
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the in-between, the beings that don't fit in either column.
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And on Friday, I'm going to close a question I'll
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open tomorrow about a woman in a village called Endor
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who looked at something rising out of the ground and
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called it by the same word Genesis uses for God.
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Then Saturday, Laura Baker and I are back with Testing
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the Spirits. I'm laying all of that out that now,
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because of what we're about to read, we're going to
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spend a week looking hard at created beings. Some of
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them are glorious. Some of them are absolutely terrifying. And
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a few of them are both. So before we do
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any of that, I want us to spend one more
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morning looking at the one every one of them answers to.
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Our readings this morning are Psalms 89, verses 5 through 8,
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and the whole first chapter of the book of Hebrews.
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As always on Sunday, I'm reading from the King James. So,
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Psalm 89, beginning at verse 5. And the heavens shall
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praise thy wonders, O Lord, thy faithfulness also in the
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congregation of the saints, For who in the heaven can
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be compared unto the Lord? Who among the sons of
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the mighty can be likened unto the Lord? God is
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greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints
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and to be had in reverence of all them that
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are about him. O Lord God of hosts. who is
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a strong Lord, like unto thee, or to thy faithfulness
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round about thee. And now Hebrews chapter 1. God, who
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at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time
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past unto the fathers of or by the prophets, hath
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in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,
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whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom
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also he made the worlds, who, being the brightness of
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his glory and the express image of his person and
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upholding all things by the word of his power, when
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he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on
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the right hand of the Majesty on high, being made
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so much better, than the angels, as he hath by
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inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto
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which of the angels he said he at any time,
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Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee,
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and again I will be to him a father, and
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he shall be to me a son, and again when
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he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith,
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and let all the angels. angels of God worship him.
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And of the angels he saith, whom maketh his angels
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spirit and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto
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the sun he saith, thy throne, O God, is forever
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and ever. A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of
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thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity. Therefore God,
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even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of
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the gladness above thy fellows. And thou, Lord, in the
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beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth, and the
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heavens are the works of thine hands. They shall perish,
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but thou remainest, and they all shall wax old, as
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doth a garment, and as a vesture shalt thou fold
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them up, and they shall be changed. But thou art
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the same, and thy years shall not fail. But to
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which of the angels said, He at any time sit
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on my right hand until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
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Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister
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for them who shall be heirs of salvation? This is
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the word of the Lord. All right, let's pray. Father
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in heaven, your name is holy and it is wholly
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whether we notice it or not. Before we say a
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word about the beings who stand around your throne, we
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want to stand where they stand, which is in front
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of you, you and beneath you. Let your kingdom come
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in this room and in every place someone is listening
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right now. Let your will be done in what we
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read this morning and in how we hear it. Give
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us what we need for today and nothing that would
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pull our eyes off of you. Forgive us for the
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times we have honored what was impressive instead of what
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was true. As we forgive the ones who led us there,
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keep us from being drawn aside and deliver us from
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the evil one. Yours is the kingdom and the power
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and the glory forever. We ask it in the name
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of Jesus, the name above every name. Amen. Okay, John.
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John falls down three times in the book of Revelation,
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and it helps to see all three side by side.
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The first is in chapter one. John is on Patmos
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on the Lord's day, and he hears a voice behind
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him like a trumpet. He turns to see who is speaking,
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and he sees one like the Son of Man, clothed
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down to the foot, with hair white like wool, and
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a voice like the sound of many waters. Verse 17,
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And when I saw him, I fell at his feet
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as dead, and he laid his right hand upon me,
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saying unto me, Fear not, I am the first and
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the last. Notice what doesn't happen there. Nobody tells John
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to get up because he's bowing to the wrong person.
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Jesus doesn't correct the posture at all. He touches him.
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He tells him not to be afraid. And then he
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tells him who he is. That fall is never corrected
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anywhere in the book because it was never a mistake.
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The second fall is, is in chapter 19. By this point,
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John has watched seals open, and trumpets sounded, and bowls
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poured out. He's seen Babylon fall. Then he hears what
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sounds like a great multitude, like many waters and mighty thunderings, crying, Hallelujah!
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Because the marriage of the Lamb has come.
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An angel.
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tells him to write, Blessed are they which are called
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unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And then adds,
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These are the true sayings of God. Now, verse 10.
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And I fell at his feet to worship him, and
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he said unto me, See thou do it not. I
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am thy fellow servant and of thy brethren that have
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the testimony of Jesus. Worship God. for the testimony of
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Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. The third comes at
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the very end of the book, when once John has
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been shown the city while its gates of pearl and
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the river of the water of life flowing out from
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the throne, chapter 21, verse 8. And I, John, saw
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these things and heard them. And when I had heard them,
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And seeing, I fell down to worship before the feet
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of the angel which shone me these things. Then saith
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he unto me, See thou do it not, for I
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am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren the prophets,
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and of them which keep the sayings of this book
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worship God. The posture is identical all three times. He
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falls at the feet. Bowing wasn't the problem. Falling on
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your face before something holy is one of the most
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natural responses in the whole Bible. Abraham does it. Ezekiel
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does it. So often it becomes part of the rhythm
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of his book. What changed between chapter 1 and chapters
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19 and 22 is, was not the posture. It was
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who was standing in front of him. And look at
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how John signs the second failure. I, John, saw these things.
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That's the same way he introduced himself back in chapter 1,
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verse 9. I, John, who also am your brother. He
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used his own name to greet the churches, and he
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uses his own name again to confess this. Nobody made
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him included. The book would have read perfectly well without it.
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The angel's words about itself are worth slowing down for.
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I am thy fellow servant. In Greek, the word is sundoulos,
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a fellow slave, a fellow servant in the same household.
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It isn't a word for a superior being condescending to
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a lesser one. It's the word you use when someone
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of your own level under the same master, Paul uses
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the exact word in his letter to the, uh, to
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the Coletians. And again, for Tychicus, the man who carried
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the letter, they're ordinary men, a pastor of a small
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church in a fading town and a courier and the
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angel who had just shown John the marriage supper of
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the Lamb, puts itself in that category. Then it widens
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the circle of thy brethren, the prophets, and of them
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which keep the sayings of this book. The angel ranks
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itself alongside anyone who keeps the words of this book.
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That includes the prophets. It also includes a woman reading Revelation,
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at her kitchen table in 2026, okay? In the angel's
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own estimation, it stands beside you, not above you, as
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a servant of the same master. Then, come to words
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in English, and the whole correction lives in them. Worship God.
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It doesn't argue about how glorious it is. It doesn't
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explain itself or defend itself. It points. I spent a
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lot of years in security work. And one of the
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first things you learn on any post is that you
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never grant access based on how impressive someone looks. The
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most dangerous person to walk up to a checkpoint is
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usually the one who looks like he belongs there. You
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check credentials. Scripture gives us a credential check for the
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unseen realm. And the angel on Patmos passes it in
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two words. A true messenger of God will not keep
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the worship. It hands it straight back to the throne.
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This isn't the first time in scripture a heavenly messenger
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has redirected worship. In Judges 13, the angel of the
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Lord appears to a man named Manoah and his wife.
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to announce the birth of Samson. Manoah, not knowing what
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he's talking to, wants to honor his visitor. So he
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offers to prepare a young goat for him. And the
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answer comes back, verse 16, that Though thou'st detain me,
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I will not eat of thy bread. And if thou
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wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto
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the Lord. The angel of the Lord is a mysterious
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figure in the Old Testament, and he spent a whole
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hour on him. We spent a whole hour on him
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last Monday because there are places where the text seemed
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to speak of as the Lord himself. But even here,
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the instinct is the same. The offering goes to the Lord.
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Daniel gives us the other side of it. In chapter 10,
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after his long fast, Daniel sees a man clothed in
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linen with a face like lightning and eyes like lamps
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of fire, and he says there remained no strength in him.
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He falls on his face in a deep sleep with
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his face toward the ground. Look at how the messenger responds.
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A hand touches him and sets him to his knees.
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The messenger calls him a man greatly beloved, tells him
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to stand upright, and tells him not to fear. He
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strengthens Daniel, and he never once receives Daniel's collapse as homage.
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To understand why a being that glorious would refuse worship
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so quickly, so reflexively, We have to go back roughly
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a thousand years before John to a psalm written by
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a man named Ethan. Psalm 89 carries the heading, Maschil
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of Ethan, the Ezraite. It's a long psalm about God's
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covenant with David, the promise that David's line will sit
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on the throne forever. If you read the whole Psalm,
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you'll notice it doesn't end where it begins. Somewhere around
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verse 38, it turns. But thou hast cast off and abhorred.
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Thou hast been wroth with thine anointment. The crown is
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on the ground. The walls are broken down. Ethan is
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writing at a moment when it looks like God's promise
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has failed. Before he says any of that, before he
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brings his complaint, he looks up and what he describes
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when he looked up is a room. Verse five, the
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congregation of the saints. When we hear the word saints,
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we tend to think of people, but Ethan has just said,
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the heavens shall praise thy wonders. And the congregation he's
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describing is in the heavens. The Hebrew is kohal, kwedosim, kwedoshim,
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the assembly of the holy ones. These are heavenly beings.
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Verse six, whom among the sons of the mighty can
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be likened unto the Lord. The Hebrew phrase behind sons
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of mighty is B'nai Elim. It's a close cousin of
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B'nai Elohim, the sons of God. the phrase that turns
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up in the book of Job when the sons of
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God come to present themselves before the Lord and in
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the strange opening verses of Genesis 6. Ethan is talking
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about the highest ranks of created being, the ones closest
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to the throne. In verse 7, God is greatly to
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be feared in the assembly of the saints. The word
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for assembly is, in this verse is different from the
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one in verse 5. It's sod, S-O-D, and it means
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a council, a circle of counselors who sits together and deliberates.
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Jeremiah uses the same word when he asked, who hath
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stood in the counsel of the Lord and hath perceived
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and heard his word. According to the Hebrew Bible, there
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is a Counsel in heaven. Michael Heiser spent most of
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his career showing how much of the Old Testament comes
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into focus once you take that counsel seriously. And tomorrow,
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we're going to spend most of an hour inside of it.
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This morning, though, we look at what Ethan says about
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that counsel. Sorry. He doesn't say the counsel is impressive.
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He says God is greatly to be feared in it,
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to be had in reverence of all them that are
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about him. The beings who stand nearest to God are
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the ones most aware of the distance between him and themselves.
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That runs against our instincts. We tend to assume that
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the closer you get to power, the more casual you
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become around it. Anyone who has worked near a general
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or a head of state knows it usually goes the
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other way. The people farthest from the room talk about
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the man in it most loosely. The people at the
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table choose their words wisely. In Psalm 89, the holy
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ones at the table are the ones who fear him most.
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Isaiah saw the same thing from a different angle. In
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Isaiah 6, the seraphim above the throne Each have six wings,
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and with two of them they cover their faces. These
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are beings whose very name has to do with burning,
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standing as close to the presence of God as any
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creature in Scripture stands, and they shield their eyes. Revelation
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4 shows us 24 elders on thrones of their own
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who fall down and cast their crowns before the throne.
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Every glimpse of the inner court We're given in scripture
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shows the same thing. The higher you go, the lower
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everyone bows. Then verse eight. Oh, Lord, God of hosts,
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who is a strong Lord, like unto thee. God of hosts,
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the armies, the ranks. Every one of the beings we're
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going to talk about this week from the seraphim to
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the watchers falls under that title. They are his hosts.
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He is not one of theirs, okay? So when the
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angel at Patmos says, see thou, do it not, it
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isn't being modest. It's speaking as a member of the
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council Ethan describes. It lives in the room where God
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is greatly to be feared and knows exactly how far
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beneath the throne it stands and a man bowing to
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it would have struck it the way it would strike
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a private if a visitor walked straight past the general
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to salute him instead. Now, the second reading. We don't
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know who wrote the book of Hebrews. People have suggested
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Paul or Barnabas or Apollos. The early church didn't know either, though. Origen,
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writing in the 3rd century, said that who wrote the
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epistle is truth. Only God knows. What we can tell
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from the letter is who it was written to. These
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were believers, very likely Jewish believers, who had already suffered
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for their faith and were being pressured to step back
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from it. Chapter 10 mentions that they had their goods
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taken from them. Chapter 12 tells them they haven't yet
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resisted to the point of shedding blood, which means some
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of them were wondering whether they would have to. For
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people with that background, angels were not a fringe subject.
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In first century Jewish understanding, angels had a part in
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the giving of the law at Sinai. And Stephen says
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it in Acts 7 that Israel received the law by
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the disposition of angels. Paul says in Galatians 3, and
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Hebrews itself says in chapter 2, calling the law the
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word spoken by angels. For these readers, angels were the
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highest category of heavenly agent they knew, the ones who
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had carried the most sacred thing they owned down the mountain.
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So the temptation for people under pressure was to find
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a place for Jesus inside the category they already had,
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make him the greatest of the angels, a very high messenger, honored,
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but manageable. A Jesus like that costs less to follow
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when the neighbors start talking about property. And Hebrews spends
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its entire first chapter refusing that. The writer strings together
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seven quotations from the Old Testament, one after another, and
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every one of them places the sun somewhere no angel
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has ever been placed verse 5 for unto which of
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the angels said he at any time thou art my
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son this day i have begotten thee the answer the
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writer expects is that he never said it to any
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of them. Verse 6 is the one I want to
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slow down on because it touches everything we're doing this week.
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And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into
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the world, he saith, and let all the angels of
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God worship him. If you go looking for that line
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in the Old Testament, you'll have a hard time finding it.
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It comes from the end of the Song of Moses,
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Deuteronomy 32, verse 43. But the traditional Hebrew text that
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most English Old Testaments are translated from doesn't contain it.
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The Greek translation of the Old Testament, the Septuagint, which
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is the version the writer of Hebrews usually quotes, does
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contain it. And in the last century, among the Dead
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Sea Scrolls in Cave 4 at Qumran, scholars found a
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Hebrew copy of Deuteronomy more than a thousand years older
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than the complete Hebrew manuscripts we'd had before. That preserves
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the line in Hebrew. It reads, bow down to him...
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all you gods. The word for gods there is Elohim.
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So the writer of Hebrews takes a verse in which
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the Elohim, the members of the heavenly council, are commanded
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to bow down and he applies it to the moment
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the sun enters the world. Every being in the council
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Ethan described is told to worship him. That's the first
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thing Hebrews wants you to know before you start thinking
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about angels at all. Verse 7. And the angels he saith,
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who maketh his angels spirits and his ministers a flame
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of fire. That's from Psalm 104. The weight of the
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quotation sits on the verb. He makes them. They are
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winds and flames, and they are glorious, but they are
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made things, and he is the one who makes them.
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Verse 8, by contrast, But unto the Son he saith
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thy throne, O God, if forever and ever. The angels
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are made. Again, the Son is addressed as God and
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given a throne. Then verses 10 through 12 take a
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psalm about the Lord laying the foundations of the earth,
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Psalm 102, and speak it to the sun. The heavens
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will wear out like a coat, and he'll fold them
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up and change them, and he will still be the same.
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The angels belong to the creation that wears out. The
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sun is the one who folds it up. And then
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the chapter ends with a question that turns the whole
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hierarchy over. Verse 14. Are they not all ministering spirits
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set forth to minister for them who shall be heirs
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of salvation? That verse challenges the direction of everything. The
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beings that people across history have been tempted to worship
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were sent to serve the people doing the worshiping. the
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seraphim of Isaiah 6, and the angel who rolled away
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the stone from the tomb in the language of Hebrews,
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ministering spirits on assignment for the heirs of salvation. Which
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means that if you belong to Christ, they are assigned
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for you. They're on assignment for you. That isn't a
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reason to feel important. If anything, it's the opposite. It's
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a reason to stop looking up at them as if
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they were the summit. They aren't the summit. They're servants
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in the same household as you. They know it, and
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they would very much like you to know it too.
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That's what the angel in Patmos was telling John. I'm
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a fellow servant. Worship God, not me. Before we go further,
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let me take one minute for something practical, okay? Everything
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you hear on this channel seven days a week is
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kept running by people who decide it was worth supporting.
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One of the simplest ways that you can do that
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is broadcasting seed store. We've rebuilt it with tees and hoodies,
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and we're putting together some other things as well. A
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lot of them carry the scripture and the themes we
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teach right here. I'll be honest with you about why
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I like them. A shirt with a verse on it
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starts conversations. It starts conversations I'd never get to start
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on my own in the grocery store line or at
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the gas station or at the library or with people
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who would never click on a video about angels, okay?
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Every order goes straight back into making these episodes. You'll
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find it at broadcastingseeds.com and the link will be in
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the description. What I'm about to read you is not scripture.
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And I want to say that plainly because this channel
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spends a lot of time in books that are outside
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the Bible. And Sunday is the day we're most careful
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about that line, right? These are ancient Jewish and Christian writings.
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And with one partial exception I'll name when we get
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to it. The church did not receive them as scripture.
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I'm bringing them in for one reason. They show us
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that what happened to John on Patmos was not an
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isolated moment. It fits a pattern ancient readers might recognize.
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Start with the book of Tobit.
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No.
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Tobit is in the Bibles of Catholic and Orthodox Christians.
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In Protestant Bibles, it isn't, though it was printed in
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the 1611 King James among the books of the Apocrypha,
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which is the partial exception I mentioned. It tells the
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story of a blind man named Tobit and his son Tobias.
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who makes a long journey with a hired companion who
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calls himself Azaris, Az-ar-ias, sorry. At the end of the journey,
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after Tobias was married and his father's sight has been restored,
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the companion reveals who he really is. I am Raphael,
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one of the seven holy angels. Father and son are terrified.
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and they fall on their faces. Raphael tells them not
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to be afraid. He tells them it was not by
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any favor of his own that he came, but by
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the will of God, and that it is God they
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should bless and praise. There's another book called The Apocalypse
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of Zephaniah. Nobody is certain when it was written. Estimates
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run about... from about a century before Christ to the
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second century after. So, come on, that's a huge thing.
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But either way, and the fullest copy we have survives
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in Coptic, the language of Christian Egypt. In it, the
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prophet Zephaniah is taken on a journey through the unseen world.
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And he sees a great angel with a golden belt
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and a face that shines like the rays of the sun.
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Zephaniah assumes he's looking at the Lord Almighty. And he
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falls down to worship. The angel stops him. Do not
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worship me, it says. I am not the Lord Almighty.
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I am the great angel, Ermael, who is over the
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abyss and Hades. Hmm, Ermael. E-R-E-M-I-E-L, who is over the
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abyss and Hades. Then there's a Christian work called the
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Ascension of Isaiah. Most of it probably written late in
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the first century or early second and around the same
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era as Revelation, okay? It imagines the prophet Isaiah being
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carried up through the seven heavens by an angel guide.
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In the seventh chapter, Isaiah falls on his face to
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worship that guide. and the angel won't permit it. It
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tells him not to worship any throne or any angel
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of the lower heavens. A chapter later, when Isaiah calls
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the angel his Lord, the angel answers that it is
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not his Lord, but his companion. In 1981, The New
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Testament scholar Richard Bauckham published a study of exactly this pattern.
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He called it the angelic refusal of worship. What he
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noticed was in Jewish and early Christian writings, the refusal
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had become something like a signature. A true angel of
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God refuses worship, and that refusal is one of the
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ways the reader is meant to recognize it. as a
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true angel. There's a darker version of the same idea
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in Jewish tradition, and some of you will remember it
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from our episode on Enoch and Metatron. The Babylonian Talmud
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in the tractate caligia, I can't say these words, chagiga,
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good enough, Tells a story about a rabbi named Elisha
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Ben Abduya. Abduya, sorry. Who, wow. Who was later called Archer,
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the other, because he left the faith. I never knew
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that was his name. In the story, he ascends in
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a vision and sees Metatron, the highest of the angels,
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seated in heaven. He concludes, perhaps there are two powers
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in heaven. According to the story, Metatron was then brought
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out and struck with 60 lashes of fire for failing
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to rise when he was seen. The later mystical book
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called Third Enoch tells its own version of the same scene.
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Whatever you make of those books, the rabbis telling that
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story were making the same point the angel made to John.
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Even the appearance of a second throne beside God was
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treated as a catastrophe. So the New Testament carries the
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same weight when it's a man on the receiving end.
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In Acts 10, the Roman centurion Cornelius falls down at
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Peter's feet and worships him. And Peter lifts him up
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and says, stand up, I myself also am a man.
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In Acts 14, the crowd of Lystra Decide Paul and
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Barnabas are gods, come down to the likeness of men,
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and the two of them tear their clothes and run
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in among the people to stop them. And in Acts 12,
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when King Herod Agrippa stands before a crowd of royal apparel,
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and they shout that it is the voice of a
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god and not of a man, Luke says an angel
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of the Lord struck him immediately because he gave not
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the God the glory. He wasn't struck for something he said.
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He was struck for what he let stand. Now, hold
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all that against the gospels. And when Jesus walks in
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the water, on the water, sorry, and climbs onto the boat,
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Matthew says, they that were in the ship came and
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worshiped him. He lets it stand. One of the mornings
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of the resurrection, the women meet him on the road,
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take hold of his feet and worship him. And instead
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of correcting them, he tells them not to be afraid.
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A week later, Thomas looks at the wounds and says,
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my Lord and my God. And Jesus answers him without
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changing a single word of it. In the very literature
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where we're fusing worship, was the mark of a faithful
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angel in the very book where apostles tore their clothes
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rather than accept it, Jesus receives worship and never once
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turns it away. That leaves a narrow set of options.
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Either he was the most dangerous deceiver who ever lived,
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or he is exactly who the first chapter of Hebrews
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says that he is. Revelation itself makes the point without
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arguing it. In chapter 25, the four living creatures and
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the 24 elders fall down before the Lamb. Then John
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hears the voice of many angels coming around the throne, 10,000
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times 10,000 and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice,
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Worthy is the Lamb that was slain. The same kind
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of beings who tell John, see thou do it not,
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are on their faces before the Lamb. They know where
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worship goes, and they have always known. So, one more
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piece from outside Scripture matters for our question, and this
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time it's history rather than tradition. Revelation opens the letters
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to seven churches in the Roman province of Asia. what
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is now Western Turkey. And the last of those seven
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is Laodicea. About 10 miles from Laodicea is the same
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river valley sat a smaller town called Colossae. Paul wrote
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a letter there And in it, he says something that
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would make no sense unless the problem was real. Collesians 2,
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verse 18, Let no man beguile you of your reward
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in a voluntary humanity and worshiping of angels, intruding into
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those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up
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by his fleshy mind. At the end of that same letter,
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Paul tells the Colossians to make sure it's read in
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the church at the Lacona Diocese as well. So the
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warning about worshiping the angels was read aloud in one
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of the seven churches John would later write to. It
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didn't go away. Sometime in the fourth century, a church
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council met in Laodicea itself, and one of its rulings,
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Canon 35, said that Christians must not leave the church
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of God and go off to invoke angels. It called
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the practice a hidden idolatry. Roughly a century after that,
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Theodoret uh, a bishop in Syria writing a commentary on Colossians.
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This disease had lingered a long time in that region
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and that in his own day, you could still find
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chapels of the Archangel Michael among the people there. One
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of the most famous stood at a place called, uh, Chonea, C-H-O-N-A-E,
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a few miles from the ruins of Colossia. Um, We'll
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come back to the Jonah on Tuesday. Okay. So the
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back to that chapel. So the region John was writing
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to had a long and documented problem with exactly this temptation.
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Hold on to that. Okay. We'll need it in a
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few minutes. I want to bring all this. into 2026
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because none of it is an ancient curiosity it if
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you spent uh if you spend any time on social
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media you've always certainly run into what are called angel
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numbers and you glance at the clock and it reads
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uh 111 or 444 and someone tells you that your
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angel's trying to get your attention That idea is popularized
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in part by a woman named Doreen Virtue, who, for years,
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wrote best-selling books and decks of oracle cards about communicating
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with angels.
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Hmm.
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Including a book about angel numbers. An enormous number of
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people learned to talk to angels from her. In fact, 2017,
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Doreen Virtue announced that she had become a Christian. Since then,
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she has said publicly that she believes she was deceived,
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and she has renounced the angel teaching that made her famous.
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But you don't hear about it, really, do you? Think
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about what that means. The most influential teacher of angel
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communication of her generation walked away from it. And what
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she walked towards was Jesus. And the pole isn't staying
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with angels in the summer of 2024, HR. in Lucerne, Switzerland,
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put an artificial intelligence version of Jesus inside its confession
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booth as an experiment. And hundreds of people sat down
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and talked to it. There are apps right now that
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let you text a chatbot dressed up as Jesus. or
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one of the apostles. I don't mention that to mock
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anybody who tried it, okay? The instinct underneath it is
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the same one, wearing new clothes. That's a voice that answers,
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that seems to know you, that's available any hour of
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the night, and that never once says, see thou do
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it not. The test does not change because the messenger
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is made of code. You don't need any of those
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stories to see the pattern, though. Angel numbers, spirit guides,
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guardian angels you're supposed to call on by name for
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parking spots or promotions, right? The vocabulary changes, but the
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instinct underneath it is the same one Paul was warning
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the collegians about. It's the instinct to go to the
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messengers and skip the actual sender It even feels more humble, right?
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It feels humbler. Who am I to go straight to God?
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Better to go through one of his helpers. Paul had
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a name for that. He called it a voluntary humility.
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It looks like humility. It's actually a detour. And the
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ancient sources make one thing very simple. A true angel
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of God by every account we just walk through, refuses
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the kind of attention. It's reflex is see thou, see though,
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do it not. So if something is happily receiving your devotion,
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answering when you call it by name, building a relationship
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when you run alongside your relationship with God, instead of
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turning you back toward him, Then by the standard of
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scripture and by the standard of the old Jewish and
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Christian writers who thought hardest about this, you've learned something
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about what that thing is not. I do not say
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that to frighten anybody. If you've worked with angel cards
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or prayed to a guardian angel by name or followed
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the numbers on the clock, you are not beyond reach.
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Dorian Virtue wasn't. The door is the same door it
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has always been. It's narrower than the culture makes it look.
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And it has one name over it. So let's go
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back to Patmos and to the question from the beginning.
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How does a man who has seen the risen Christ
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fall at the feet of an angel twice? And why
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did he write it down both times? The text doesn't
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tell us directly, and I want to be careful here
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with this because it would be easy to read my
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own explanation into it, okay? But the book leaves clues,
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and I think they're enough. And the first clue is
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where the falls happen. The first time John bows to
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an angel is right after he hears the marriage supper
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of the Lamb announced. The second is right after he's
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been shown the Holy City, and the throne of God
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and of the Lamb. Both times he falls immediately after
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the most glorious things he has been shown. The pole
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to bow down wasn't strongest when John was weakest. It
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was strongest when he was seeing the most. Glory, bottom line,
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it overwhelms. And the being who happens to be standing
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next to glory can end up receiving what belongs to
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the glory itself. That's true of angels. It's also true
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of preachers and worship leaders and anyone else who stands
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near something holy long enough to be mistaken for the
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source of it. The second clue is who he was
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writing to. Seven churches in Asia with Laodicea Among them
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in the valley where worshiping angels had already been warned
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against by name and where centuries later councils were still
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trying to root it out. John's first readers lived in
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the exact place where this temptation was strongest. They needed
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to hear the warning and they needed to hear it
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more than once. The third clue is that he used himself.
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he didn't write some among you have been bowing to angels.
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He wrote it. I did it. I, John, the one
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who saw Jesus in chapter one, the one entrusted with
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this whole revelation. If the man who was the most
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could be pulled sideways, then one, then no one reading
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the book stands above the warning. He made his own
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failure the example, and he made it twice. So nobody
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could mistake it for a slip of the pen. The
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last clue is the correction itself. Both times, the angel
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lands on the same two words, worship God. It never
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tells John he should have known better. It doesn't shame him.
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It turns him back towards the throne, turns him back
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towards God. And then the book simply goes on. John
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is a disqualified. Right after the second correction, he told,
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seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book,
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for the time is at hand. The man who bowed
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twice is still the man trusted to carry the message.
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So this is what I believe the answer is. John
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wrote it down twice because none of us ever graduate
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past needing the correction. Seeing the throne in chapter one
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did not make him immune to chapter 19. Or in
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chapter 22, what protected him wasn't that he had seen
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enough never to stumble. It was that when he stumbled,
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he had stood in front of the throne long enough
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to recognize the voice that turned him around, and he turned.
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Got it? To God. That's what Psalm 89 and Hebrews
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1 are for. They aren't there to make us small.
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They're there to fix the throne in our eyes before
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we start looking at everything that stands around it. Ethan
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looked up before he brought his complaint. Hebrews seats the
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son on the throne in its first chapter before it
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says anything else about anything. And this morning we looked
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at that throne before we spend a week looking at
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the beings around it. This week, you're going to see
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some glorious things described and some frightening ones. If you
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feel that pull at some point, and you might, you
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already know what the angel told John. Now I want
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to turn to you. Every Sunday, we set aside time
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for your prayer requests. If there's something you'd like us
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to pray for, send it. Send it in private, send
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it in public. I write it all down and say,
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pray for me. Nothing else. Nothing else. It's all you
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need to do. So let's bring these to him together. Father,
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you know every one of these names and you know
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the ones that didn't get written down. We bring them
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to you and no one else. Where there's sickness, we
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ask you for healing. And where there's fear, we ask
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you for peace. Where someone has been listening to a
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voice that isn't yours, turn them back towards you as
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gently as the angel turned John. Your will be done
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in each of these lives as it is in heaven.
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And in Jesus' mighty name, amen. I'll close with the
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benediction from the end of the letter of Jude. Jude
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is a short book, and it's the book that tells
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us that when Michael the archangel disputed with the devil,
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he durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said,
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the Lord rebuke thee. Even the archangel deferred to the
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one above him. So it fits that the same short
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letter ends this way. Now unto him that is able
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to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless
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before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy to
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the only wise God, our Savior, be glory and majesty,
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dominion and power, both now and forever.
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Amen.
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Tomorrow we start the Elohim. We'll begin with one Hebrew
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word and with the woman at Endor who used it
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for something nobody expected. I'll see you then.
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Some need healing, some reborn But every soul that gathers
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here Can bring their questions, bring their fear The ground
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may be broken.
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The season may change, but the word that was spoken
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still remains.
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Plant the seed and let it grow.
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Trust the one who knows what we don't know.
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Through the fire, through.
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The rain, God is working through the joy and pain.
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Let the truth run deep inside.
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Let his word become our guide. Wherever this week may lead, Lord, let.
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Us carry Sunday's seed.
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There are battles no one sees Silent nights spent on
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our knees Questions hanging in the air Names we bring before.
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You in prayer For the weary and afraid For the
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choices yet unmade For the lost who need.
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A light For the ones still fighting through the.
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Night The ground may be broken season may change.
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But the word that.
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Was spoken still remains plant the seed let it grow.
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Trust the one who knows what we don't know through
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the fire through the rain God is working through the
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joy and pain.
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Let the truth run deep inside.
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Let his word become our guide wherever.
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We don't gather just to hear Words that disappear from
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here Send us.
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Out with hearts awake Give us courage for your name's sake.
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When the world says truth can bend Keep us faithful
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to the end When.
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The darkness calls our name Let us answer.
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In Jesus' name.
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Some seeds fall on hardened ground.
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Some get lost and can't be found.
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Some take root.
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When no one sees. Growing slowly on.
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So we trust you with the field Trust you with
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what it will yield We.
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Will water, we will.
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Sow You alone can make it.
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Grow Give us heart to see. Give us ears to hear.
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Give us faith to follow.
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When the roads aren't clear.
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Give us strength to stand.
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Give us hearts that sing. Let your truth.
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Be louder than the voices that we make. Plant the seed.
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And let it grow. Trust the one who knows what
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you need.
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The rain god is working through the joy and pain let.
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The truth run deep.
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Inside let his word become our guide wherever this week
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may lead lord let us carry.
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Let it grow. Take the truth everywhere we go.
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Through the valley, through the flame.
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We will stand upon Jesus' name.
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Let the truth run deep inside.
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Let His Word become our guide.
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Until next Sunday when we meet. Lord, keep growing Sunday seed.
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Till we meet again, keep your eyes on Him. Through
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every road, through every need.
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Let the Word take root and grow the seed.
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Thank you.
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The man who wrote the last book of the Bible
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worshipped an angel, and he did it twice. He had
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already seen the risen Christ face to face, standing among
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seven golden lampstands with eyes like a flame of fire,
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and he still got it wrong. Then he wrote both
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failures into the book with his own name attached. That
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should unsettle anyone who assumes the danger lives somewhere else
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among people who don't know any better. If the apostle
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who saw the most could be pulled into worshiping the
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wrong thing, then the angel numbers on your phone, the
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spirit guides your coworker swears by, and the talking artificial Jesus,
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a chapel in Switzerland put inside a confession booth, is
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not harmless curiosities, right? They are the same pole, and
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it has never once announced itself as a threat. There's
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a Hebrew scroll from a cave near the Dead Sea
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with a line that orders the gods to bow down,
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and there's a church, a council that met in one
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of the very cities John wrote to, and still had
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to outlaw praying to angels almost three centuries after he
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warned them. The question I'm holding on to till the
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very end is this one. How does a man who
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has seen Jesus make that mistake twice? And why would
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he put both failures in writing? By the time we're
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done this morning, you'll know, and you'll know the one
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test every true angel has. I spent years in corporate
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and executive security and protection work. Protection work teaches you
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something about people that you can't unlearn. When someone important
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walks into the room, the crowd's eyes almost never go
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to the right person. They go to whoever looks the part,
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the best suit, the most confident walk, the man at
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the front of the group who carries himself like he's
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in charge. Meanwhile, the person who actually matters moves through
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the room almost unnoticed. You learn to watch for that
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because it's where mistakes get made. And if I'm honest,
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the hardest part wasn't catching other people doing it. It
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was catching myself. Impressive? and important are not the same thing.
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And the human eye is very, very, very bad at
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telling them apart. Good morning and welcome to Sunday Seeds.
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This is your first time on Sunday with us. This
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is the one day of the week this channel isn't
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investigating anything. Monday through Saturday, we open files. We go
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through old manuscripts and strange reports and arguments that have
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been running for 2,000 years, okay? And we try to
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sort out what holds weight. Sunday is something else. No case,
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no proof, just the book, prayer, and the people who
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show up. And, I mean, we kind of set up
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the week, right? But, yeah, either way. I'm grateful you're
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one of them and that you're here. You could have
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put on anything this morning, and I don't take that
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for granted that you choose to spend this time here.
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Wherever you're watching or listening from a kitchen table, truck cab,
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hospital waiting room, you're part of this. It's built with
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you in mind. And before we're done, I'm going to
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ask what you'd like us to pray about. So, Last week,
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we spent five days with Jesus in the revealed one,
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following him from Bethlehem all the way down through the
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gates of the dead. This week, we're starting a series
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called the Elohim, over four episodes. Plus this one, we're
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going to walk through every kind of being the Bible
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places in the unseen realm, and a good number of
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beings that other traditions place there too. OK, so tomorrow, Monday,
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we start with the word itself. Elohim is the word
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in the first verse of the Bible. In the beginning, God.
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It's also a word the Bible uses more than once
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for beings that are not the God of Israel. So
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we'll start with what the word means and what it
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does and what it doesn't mean. And then we'll go
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through the ranks of Scripture. actually names, right? Cherubim, seraphim,
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the ones it calls the holy ones and the watchers,
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and we'll look at how people tried to organize all
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of it. Afterward, from the 6th century Christian mystic who
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gave the church its nine choirs of angels to a
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medieval rabbi who counted ten. Tuesday is the archangels Michael
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and Gabriel who are named in scripture and the ones
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whose names come from outside like Raphael and Uriel and
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the others and whose name, those same names turn up
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in places you would never expect a Christian to go looking.
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So Wednesday is the fallen. We've already told the story
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of Rebellion on this channel. So this isn't a retelling.
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It's closer to a field guide. Who the fallen are,
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how different traditions name and rank them, and what has
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actually been documented when people say they've encountered one. Thursday,
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our guest conversation. I'm trying to think. I think it's
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Kyle Milholland is who it'll be. And then Friday is
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the in-between, the beings that don't fit in either column.
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And on Friday, I'm going to close a question I'll
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open tomorrow about a woman in a village called Endor
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who looked at something rising out of the ground and
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called it by the same word Genesis uses for God.
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Then Saturday, Laura Baker and I are back with Testing
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the Spirits. I'm laying all of that out that now,
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because of what we're about to read, we're going to
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spend a week looking hard at created beings. Some of
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them are glorious. Some of them are absolutely terrifying. And
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a few of them are both. So before we do
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any of that, I want us to spend one more
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morning looking at the one every one of them answers to.
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Our readings this morning are Psalms 89, verses 5 through 8,
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and the whole first chapter of the book of Hebrews.
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As always on Sunday, I'm reading from the King James. So,
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Psalm 89, beginning at verse 5. And the heavens shall
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praise thy wonders, O Lord, thy faithfulness also in the
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congregation of the saints, For who in the heaven can
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be compared unto the Lord? Who among the sons of
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the mighty can be likened unto the Lord? God is
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greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints
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and to be had in reverence of all them that
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are about him. O Lord God of hosts. who is
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a strong Lord, like unto thee, or to thy faithfulness
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round about thee. And now Hebrews chapter 1. God, who
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at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time
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past unto the fathers of or by the prophets, hath
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in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,
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whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom
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also he made the worlds, who, being the brightness of
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his glory and the express image of his person and
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upholding all things by the word of his power, when
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he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on
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the right hand of the Majesty on high, being made
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so much better, than the angels, as he hath by
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inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto
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which of the angels he said he at any time,
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Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee,
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and again I will be to him a father, and
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he shall be to me a son, and again when
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he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith,
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and let all the angels. angels of God worship him.
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And of the angels he saith, whom maketh his angels
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spirit and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto
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the sun he saith, thy throne, O God, is forever
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and ever. A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of
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thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity. Therefore God,
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even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of
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the gladness above thy fellows. And thou, Lord, in the
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beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth, and the
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heavens are the works of thine hands. They shall perish,
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but thou remainest, and they all shall wax old, as
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doth a garment, and as a vesture shalt thou fold
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them up, and they shall be changed. But thou art
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the same, and thy years shall not fail. But to
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which of the angels said, He at any time sit
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on my right hand until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
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Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister
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for them who shall be heirs of salvation? This is
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the word of the Lord. All right, let's pray. Father
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in heaven, your name is holy and it is wholly
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whether we notice it or not. Before we say a
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word about the beings who stand around your throne, we
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want to stand where they stand, which is in front
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of you, you and beneath you. Let your kingdom come
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in this room and in every place someone is listening
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right now. Let your will be done in what we
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read this morning and in how we hear it. Give
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us what we need for today and nothing that would
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pull our eyes off of you. Forgive us for the
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times we have honored what was impressive instead of what
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was true. As we forgive the ones who led us there,
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keep us from being drawn aside and deliver us from
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the evil one. Yours is the kingdom and the power
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and the glory forever. We ask it in the name
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of Jesus, the name above every name. Amen. Okay, John.
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John falls down three times in the book of Revelation,
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and it helps to see all three side by side.
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The first is in chapter one. John is on Patmos
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on the Lord's day, and he hears a voice behind
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him like a trumpet. He turns to see who is speaking,
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and he sees one like the Son of Man, clothed
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down to the foot, with hair white like wool, and
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a voice like the sound of many waters. Verse 17,
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And when I saw him, I fell at his feet
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as dead, and he laid his right hand upon me,
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saying unto me, Fear not, I am the first and
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the last. Notice what doesn't happen there. Nobody tells John
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to get up because he's bowing to the wrong person.
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Jesus doesn't correct the posture at all. He touches him.
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He tells him not to be afraid. And then he
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tells him who he is. That fall is never corrected
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anywhere in the book because it was never a mistake.
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The second fall is, is in chapter 19. By this point,
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John has watched seals open, and trumpets sounded, and bowls
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poured out. He's seen Babylon fall. Then he hears what
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sounds like a great multitude, like many waters and mighty thunderings, crying, Hallelujah!
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Because the marriage of the Lamb has come.
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An angel.
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tells him to write, Blessed are they which are called
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unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And then adds,
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These are the true sayings of God. Now, verse 10.
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And I fell at his feet to worship him, and
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he said unto me, See thou do it not. I
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am thy fellow servant and of thy brethren that have
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the testimony of Jesus. Worship God. for the testimony of
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Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. The third comes at
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the very end of the book, when once John has
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been shown the city while its gates of pearl and
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the river of the water of life flowing out from
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the throne, chapter 21, verse 8. And I, John, saw
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these things and heard them. And when I had heard them,
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And seeing, I fell down to worship before the feet
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of the angel which shone me these things. Then saith
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he unto me, See thou do it not, for I
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am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren the prophets,
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and of them which keep the sayings of this book
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worship God. The posture is identical all three times. He
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falls at the feet. Bowing wasn't the problem. Falling on
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your face before something holy is one of the most
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natural responses in the whole Bible. Abraham does it. Ezekiel
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does it. So often it becomes part of the rhythm
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of his book. What changed between chapter 1 and chapters
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19 and 22 is, was not the posture. It was
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who was standing in front of him. And look at
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how John signs the second failure. I, John, saw these things.
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That's the same way he introduced himself back in chapter 1,
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verse 9. I, John, who also am your brother. He
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used his own name to greet the churches, and he
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uses his own name again to confess this. Nobody made
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him included. The book would have read perfectly well without it.
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The angel's words about itself are worth slowing down for.
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I am thy fellow servant. In Greek, the word is sundoulos,
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a fellow slave, a fellow servant in the same household.
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It isn't a word for a superior being condescending to
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a lesser one. It's the word you use when someone
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of your own level under the same master, Paul uses
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the exact word in his letter to the, uh, to
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the Coletians. And again, for Tychicus, the man who carried
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the letter, they're ordinary men, a pastor of a small
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church in a fading town and a courier and the
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angel who had just shown John the marriage supper of
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the Lamb, puts itself in that category. Then it widens
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the circle of thy brethren, the prophets, and of them
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which keep the sayings of this book. The angel ranks
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itself alongside anyone who keeps the words of this book.
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That includes the prophets. It also includes a woman reading Revelation,
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at her kitchen table in 2026, okay? In the angel's
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own estimation, it stands beside you, not above you, as
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a servant of the same master. Then, come to words
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in English, and the whole correction lives in them. Worship God.
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It doesn't argue about how glorious it is. It doesn't
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explain itself or defend itself. It points. I spent a
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lot of years in security work. And one of the
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first things you learn on any post is that you
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never grant access based on how impressive someone looks. The
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most dangerous person to walk up to a checkpoint is
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usually the one who looks like he belongs there. You
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check credentials. Scripture gives us a credential check for the
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unseen realm. And the angel on Patmos passes it in
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two words. A true messenger of God will not keep
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the worship. It hands it straight back to the throne.
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This isn't the first time in scripture a heavenly messenger
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has redirected worship. In Judges 13, the angel of the
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Lord appears to a man named Manoah and his wife.
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to announce the birth of Samson. Manoah, not knowing what
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he's talking to, wants to honor his visitor. So he
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offers to prepare a young goat for him. And the
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answer comes back, verse 16, that Though thou'st detain me,
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I will not eat of thy bread. And if thou
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wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto
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the Lord. The angel of the Lord is a mysterious
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figure in the Old Testament, and he spent a whole
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hour on him. We spent a whole hour on him
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last Monday because there are places where the text seemed
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to speak of as the Lord himself. But even here,
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the instinct is the same. The offering goes to the Lord.
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Daniel gives us the other side of it. In chapter 10,
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after his long fast, Daniel sees a man clothed in
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linen with a face like lightning and eyes like lamps
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of fire, and he says there remained no strength in him.
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He falls on his face in a deep sleep with
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his face toward the ground. Look at how the messenger responds.
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A hand touches him and sets him to his knees.
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The messenger calls him a man greatly beloved, tells him
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to stand upright, and tells him not to fear. He
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strengthens Daniel, and he never once receives Daniel's collapse as homage.
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To understand why a being that glorious would refuse worship
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so quickly, so reflexively, We have to go back roughly
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a thousand years before John to a psalm written by
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a man named Ethan. Psalm 89 carries the heading, Maschil
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of Ethan, the Ezraite. It's a long psalm about God's
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covenant with David, the promise that David's line will sit
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on the throne forever. If you read the whole Psalm,
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you'll notice it doesn't end where it begins. Somewhere around
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verse 38, it turns. But thou hast cast off and abhorred.
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Thou hast been wroth with thine anointment. The crown is
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on the ground. The walls are broken down. Ethan is
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writing at a moment when it looks like God's promise
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has failed. Before he says any of that, before he
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brings his complaint, he looks up and what he describes
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when he looked up is a room. Verse five, the
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congregation of the saints. When we hear the word saints,
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we tend to think of people, but Ethan has just said,
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the heavens shall praise thy wonders. And the congregation he's
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describing is in the heavens. The Hebrew is kohal, kwedosim, kwedoshim,
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the assembly of the holy ones. These are heavenly beings.
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Verse six, whom among the sons of the mighty can
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be likened unto the Lord. The Hebrew phrase behind sons
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of mighty is B'nai Elim. It's a close cousin of
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B'nai Elohim, the sons of God. the phrase that turns
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up in the book of Job when the sons of
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God come to present themselves before the Lord and in
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the strange opening verses of Genesis 6. Ethan is talking
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about the highest ranks of created being, the ones closest
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to the throne. In verse 7, God is greatly to
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be feared in the assembly of the saints. The word
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for assembly is, in this verse is different from the
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one in verse 5. It's sod, S-O-D, and it means
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a council, a circle of counselors who sits together and deliberates.
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Jeremiah uses the same word when he asked, who hath
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stood in the counsel of the Lord and hath perceived
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and heard his word. According to the Hebrew Bible, there
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is a Counsel in heaven. Michael Heiser spent most of
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his career showing how much of the Old Testament comes
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into focus once you take that counsel seriously. And tomorrow,
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we're going to spend most of an hour inside of it.
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This morning, though, we look at what Ethan says about
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that counsel. Sorry. He doesn't say the counsel is impressive.
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He says God is greatly to be feared in it,
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to be had in reverence of all them that are
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about him. The beings who stand nearest to God are
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the ones most aware of the distance between him and themselves.
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That runs against our instincts. We tend to assume that
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the closer you get to power, the more casual you
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become around it. Anyone who has worked near a general
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or a head of state knows it usually goes the
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other way. The people farthest from the room talk about
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the man in it most loosely. The people at the
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table choose their words wisely. In Psalm 89, the holy
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ones at the table are the ones who fear him most.
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Isaiah saw the same thing from a different angle. In
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Isaiah 6, the seraphim above the throne Each have six wings,
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and with two of them they cover their faces. These
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are beings whose very name has to do with burning,
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standing as close to the presence of God as any
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creature in Scripture stands, and they shield their eyes. Revelation
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4 shows us 24 elders on thrones of their own
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who fall down and cast their crowns before the throne.
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Every glimpse of the inner court We're given in scripture
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shows the same thing. The higher you go, the lower
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everyone bows. Then verse eight. Oh, Lord, God of hosts,
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who is a strong Lord, like unto thee. God of hosts,
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the armies, the ranks. Every one of the beings we're
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going to talk about this week from the seraphim to
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the watchers falls under that title. They are his hosts.
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He is not one of theirs, okay? So when the
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angel at Patmos says, see thou, do it not, it
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isn't being modest. It's speaking as a member of the
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council Ethan describes. It lives in the room where God
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is greatly to be feared and knows exactly how far
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beneath the throne it stands and a man bowing to
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it would have struck it the way it would strike
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a private if a visitor walked straight past the general
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to salute him instead. Now, the second reading. We don't
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know who wrote the book of Hebrews. People have suggested
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Paul or Barnabas or Apollos. The early church didn't know either, though. Origen,
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writing in the 3rd century, said that who wrote the
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epistle is truth. Only God knows. What we can tell
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from the letter is who it was written to. These
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were believers, very likely Jewish believers, who had already suffered
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for their faith and were being pressured to step back
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from it. Chapter 10 mentions that they had their goods
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taken from them. Chapter 12 tells them they haven't yet
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resisted to the point of shedding blood, which means some
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of them were wondering whether they would have to. For
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people with that background, angels were not a fringe subject.
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In first century Jewish understanding, angels had a part in
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the giving of the law at Sinai. And Stephen says
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it in Acts 7 that Israel received the law by
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the disposition of angels. Paul says in Galatians 3, and
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Hebrews itself says in chapter 2, calling the law the
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word spoken by angels. For these readers, angels were the
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highest category of heavenly agent they knew, the ones who
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had carried the most sacred thing they owned down the mountain.
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So the temptation for people under pressure was to find
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a place for Jesus inside the category they already had,
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make him the greatest of the angels, a very high messenger, honored,
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but manageable. A Jesus like that costs less to follow
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when the neighbors start talking about property. And Hebrews spends
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its entire first chapter refusing that. The writer strings together
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seven quotations from the Old Testament, one after another, and
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every one of them places the sun somewhere no angel
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has ever been placed verse 5 for unto which of
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the angels said he at any time thou art my
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son this day i have begotten thee the answer the
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writer expects is that he never said it to any
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of them. Verse 6 is the one I want to
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slow down on because it touches everything we're doing this week.
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And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into
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the world, he saith, and let all the angels of
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God worship him. If you go looking for that line
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in the Old Testament, you'll have a hard time finding it.
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It comes from the end of the Song of Moses,
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Deuteronomy 32, verse 43. But the traditional Hebrew text that
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most English Old Testaments are translated from doesn't contain it.
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The Greek translation of the Old Testament, the Septuagint, which
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is the version the writer of Hebrews usually quotes, does
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contain it. And in the last century, among the Dead
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Sea Scrolls in Cave 4 at Qumran, scholars found a
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Hebrew copy of Deuteronomy more than a thousand years older
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than the complete Hebrew manuscripts we'd had before. That preserves
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the line in Hebrew. It reads, bow down to him...
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all you gods. The word for gods there is Elohim.
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So the writer of Hebrews takes a verse in which
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the Elohim, the members of the heavenly council, are commanded
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to bow down and he applies it to the moment
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the sun enters the world. Every being in the council
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Ethan described is told to worship him. That's the first
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thing Hebrews wants you to know before you start thinking
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about angels at all. Verse 7. And the angels he saith,
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who maketh his angels spirits and his ministers a flame
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of fire. That's from Psalm 104. The weight of the
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quotation sits on the verb. He makes them. They are
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winds and flames, and they are glorious, but they are
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made things, and he is the one who makes them.
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Verse 8, by contrast, But unto the Son he saith
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thy throne, O God, if forever and ever. The angels
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are made. Again, the Son is addressed as God and
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given a throne. Then verses 10 through 12 take a
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psalm about the Lord laying the foundations of the earth,
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Psalm 102, and speak it to the sun. The heavens
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will wear out like a coat, and he'll fold them
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up and change them, and he will still be the same.
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The angels belong to the creation that wears out. The
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sun is the one who folds it up. And then
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the chapter ends with a question that turns the whole
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hierarchy over. Verse 14. Are they not all ministering spirits
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set forth to minister for them who shall be heirs
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of salvation? That verse challenges the direction of everything. The
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beings that people across history have been tempted to worship
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were sent to serve the people doing the worshiping. the
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seraphim of Isaiah 6, and the angel who rolled away
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the stone from the tomb in the language of Hebrews,
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ministering spirits on assignment for the heirs of salvation. Which
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means that if you belong to Christ, they are assigned
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for you. They're on assignment for you. That isn't a
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reason to feel important. If anything, it's the opposite. It's
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a reason to stop looking up at them as if
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they were the summit. They aren't the summit. They're servants
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in the same household as you. They know it, and
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they would very much like you to know it too.
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That's what the angel in Patmos was telling John. I'm
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a fellow servant. Worship God, not me. Before we go further,
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let me take one minute for something practical, okay? Everything
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you hear on this channel seven days a week is
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kept running by people who decide it was worth supporting.
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One of the simplest ways that you can do that
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is broadcasting seed store. We've rebuilt it with tees and hoodies,
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and we're putting together some other things as well. A
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lot of them carry the scripture and the themes we
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teach right here. I'll be honest with you about why
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I like them. A shirt with a verse on it
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starts conversations. It starts conversations I'd never get to start
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on my own in the grocery store line or at
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the gas station or at the library or with people
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who would never click on a video about angels, okay?
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Every order goes straight back into making these episodes. You'll
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find it at broadcastingseeds.com and the link will be in
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the description. What I'm about to read you is not scripture.
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And I want to say that plainly because this channel
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spends a lot of time in books that are outside
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the Bible. And Sunday is the day we're most careful
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about that line, right? These are ancient Jewish and Christian writings.
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And with one partial exception I'll name when we get
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to it. The church did not receive them as scripture.
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I'm bringing them in for one reason. They show us
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that what happened to John on Patmos was not an
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isolated moment. It fits a pattern ancient readers might recognize.
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Start with the book of Tobit.
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No.
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Tobit is in the Bibles of Catholic and Orthodox Christians.
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In Protestant Bibles, it isn't, though it was printed in
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the 1611 King James among the books of the Apocrypha,
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which is the partial exception I mentioned. It tells the
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story of a blind man named Tobit and his son Tobias.
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who makes a long journey with a hired companion who
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calls himself Azaris, Az-ar-ias, sorry. At the end of the journey,
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after Tobias was married and his father's sight has been restored,
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the companion reveals who he really is. I am Raphael,
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one of the seven holy angels. Father and son are terrified.
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and they fall on their faces. Raphael tells them not
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to be afraid. He tells them it was not by
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any favor of his own that he came, but by
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the will of God, and that it is God they
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should bless and praise. There's another book called The Apocalypse
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of Zephaniah. Nobody is certain when it was written. Estimates
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run about... from about a century before Christ to the
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second century after. So, come on, that's a huge thing.
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But either way, and the fullest copy we have survives
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in Coptic, the language of Christian Egypt. In it, the
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prophet Zephaniah is taken on a journey through the unseen world.
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And he sees a great angel with a golden belt
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and a face that shines like the rays of the sun.
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Zephaniah assumes he's looking at the Lord Almighty. And he
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falls down to worship. The angel stops him. Do not
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worship me, it says. I am not the Lord Almighty.
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I am the great angel, Ermael, who is over the
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abyss and Hades. Hmm, Ermael. E-R-E-M-I-E-L, who is over the
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abyss and Hades. Then there's a Christian work called the
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Ascension of Isaiah. Most of it probably written late in
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the first century or early second and around the same
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era as Revelation, okay? It imagines the prophet Isaiah being
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carried up through the seven heavens by an angel guide.
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In the seventh chapter, Isaiah falls on his face to
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worship that guide. and the angel won't permit it. It
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tells him not to worship any throne or any angel
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of the lower heavens. A chapter later, when Isaiah calls
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the angel his Lord, the angel answers that it is
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not his Lord, but his companion. In 1981, The New
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Testament scholar Richard Bauckham published a study of exactly this pattern.
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He called it the angelic refusal of worship. What he
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noticed was in Jewish and early Christian writings, the refusal
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had become something like a signature. A true angel of
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God refuses worship, and that refusal is one of the
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ways the reader is meant to recognize it. as a
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true angel. There's a darker version of the same idea
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in Jewish tradition, and some of you will remember it
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from our episode on Enoch and Metatron. The Babylonian Talmud
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in the tractate caligia, I can't say these words, chagiga,
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good enough, Tells a story about a rabbi named Elisha
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Ben Abduya. Abduya, sorry. Who, wow. Who was later called Archer,
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the other, because he left the faith. I never knew
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that was his name. In the story, he ascends in
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a vision and sees Metatron, the highest of the angels,
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seated in heaven. He concludes, perhaps there are two powers
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in heaven. According to the story, Metatron was then brought
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out and struck with 60 lashes of fire for failing
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to rise when he was seen. The later mystical book
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called Third Enoch tells its own version of the same scene.
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Whatever you make of those books, the rabbis telling that
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story were making the same point the angel made to John.
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Even the appearance of a second throne beside God was
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treated as a catastrophe. So the New Testament carries the
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same weight when it's a man on the receiving end.
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In Acts 10, the Roman centurion Cornelius falls down at
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Peter's feet and worships him. And Peter lifts him up
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and says, stand up, I myself also am a man.
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In Acts 14, the crowd of Lystra Decide Paul and
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Barnabas are gods, come down to the likeness of men,
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and the two of them tear their clothes and run
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in among the people to stop them. And in Acts 12,
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when King Herod Agrippa stands before a crowd of royal apparel,
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and they shout that it is the voice of a
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god and not of a man, Luke says an angel
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of the Lord struck him immediately because he gave not
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the God the glory. He wasn't struck for something he said.
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He was struck for what he let stand. Now, hold
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all that against the gospels. And when Jesus walks in
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the water, on the water, sorry, and climbs onto the boat,
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Matthew says, they that were in the ship came and
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worshiped him. He lets it stand. One of the mornings
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of the resurrection, the women meet him on the road,
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take hold of his feet and worship him. And instead
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of correcting them, he tells them not to be afraid.
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A week later, Thomas looks at the wounds and says,
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my Lord and my God. And Jesus answers him without
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changing a single word of it. In the very literature
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where we're fusing worship, was the mark of a faithful
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angel in the very book where apostles tore their clothes
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rather than accept it, Jesus receives worship and never once
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turns it away. That leaves a narrow set of options.
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Either he was the most dangerous deceiver who ever lived,
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or he is exactly who the first chapter of Hebrews
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says that he is. Revelation itself makes the point without
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arguing it. In chapter 25, the four living creatures and
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the 24 elders fall down before the Lamb. Then John
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hears the voice of many angels coming around the throne, 10,000
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times 10,000 and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice,
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Worthy is the Lamb that was slain. The same kind
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of beings who tell John, see thou do it not,
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are on their faces before the Lamb. They know where
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worship goes, and they have always known. So, one more
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piece from outside Scripture matters for our question, and this
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time it's history rather than tradition. Revelation opens the letters
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to seven churches in the Roman province of Asia. what
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is now Western Turkey. And the last of those seven
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is Laodicea. About 10 miles from Laodicea is the same
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river valley sat a smaller town called Colossae. Paul wrote
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a letter there And in it, he says something that
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would make no sense unless the problem was real. Collesians 2,
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verse 18, Let no man beguile you of your reward
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in a voluntary humanity and worshiping of angels, intruding into
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those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up
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by his fleshy mind. At the end of that same letter,
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Paul tells the Colossians to make sure it's read in
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the church at the Lacona Diocese as well. So the
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warning about worshiping the angels was read aloud in one
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of the seven churches John would later write to. It
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didn't go away. Sometime in the fourth century, a church
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council met in Laodicea itself, and one of its rulings,
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Canon 35, said that Christians must not leave the church
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of God and go off to invoke angels. It called
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the practice a hidden idolatry. Roughly a century after that,
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Theodoret uh, a bishop in Syria writing a commentary on Colossians.
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This disease had lingered a long time in that region
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and that in his own day, you could still find
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chapels of the Archangel Michael among the people there. One
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of the most famous stood at a place called, uh, Chonea, C-H-O-N-A-E,
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a few miles from the ruins of Colossia. Um, We'll
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come back to the Jonah on Tuesday. Okay. So the
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back to that chapel. So the region John was writing
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to had a long and documented problem with exactly this temptation.
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Hold on to that. Okay. We'll need it in a
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few minutes. I want to bring all this. into 2026
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because none of it is an ancient curiosity it if
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you spent uh if you spend any time on social
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media you've always certainly run into what are called angel
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numbers and you glance at the clock and it reads
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uh 111 or 444 and someone tells you that your
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angel's trying to get your attention That idea is popularized
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in part by a woman named Doreen Virtue, who, for years,
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wrote best-selling books and decks of oracle cards about communicating
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with angels.
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Hmm.
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Including a book about angel numbers. An enormous number of
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people learned to talk to angels from her. In fact, 2017,
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Doreen Virtue announced that she had become a Christian. Since then,
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she has said publicly that she believes she was deceived,
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and she has renounced the angel teaching that made her famous.
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But you don't hear about it, really, do you? Think
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about what that means. The most influential teacher of angel
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communication of her generation walked away from it. And what
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she walked towards was Jesus. And the pole isn't staying
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with angels in the summer of 2024, HR. in Lucerne, Switzerland,
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put an artificial intelligence version of Jesus inside its confession
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booth as an experiment. And hundreds of people sat down
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and talked to it. There are apps right now that
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let you text a chatbot dressed up as Jesus. or
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one of the apostles. I don't mention that to mock
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anybody who tried it, okay? The instinct underneath it is
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the same one, wearing new clothes. That's a voice that answers,
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that seems to know you, that's available any hour of
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the night, and that never once says, see thou do
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it not. The test does not change because the messenger
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is made of code. You don't need any of those
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stories to see the pattern, though. Angel numbers, spirit guides,
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guardian angels you're supposed to call on by name for
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parking spots or promotions, right? The vocabulary changes, but the
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instinct underneath it is the same one Paul was warning
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the collegians about. It's the instinct to go to the
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messengers and skip the actual sender It even feels more humble, right?
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It feels humbler. Who am I to go straight to God?
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Better to go through one of his helpers. Paul had
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a name for that. He called it a voluntary humility.
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It looks like humility. It's actually a detour. And the
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ancient sources make one thing very simple. A true angel
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of God by every account we just walk through, refuses
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the kind of attention. It's reflex is see thou, see though,
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do it not. So if something is happily receiving your devotion,
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answering when you call it by name, building a relationship
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when you run alongside your relationship with God, instead of
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turning you back toward him, Then by the standard of
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scripture and by the standard of the old Jewish and
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Christian writers who thought hardest about this, you've learned something
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about what that thing is not. I do not say
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that to frighten anybody. If you've worked with angel cards
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or prayed to a guardian angel by name or followed
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the numbers on the clock, you are not beyond reach.
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Dorian Virtue wasn't. The door is the same door it
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has always been. It's narrower than the culture makes it look.
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And it has one name over it. So let's go
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back to Patmos and to the question from the beginning.
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How does a man who has seen the risen Christ
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fall at the feet of an angel twice? And why
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did he write it down both times? The text doesn't
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tell us directly, and I want to be careful here
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with this because it would be easy to read my
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own explanation into it, okay? But the book leaves clues,
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and I think they're enough. And the first clue is
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where the falls happen. The first time John bows to
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an angel is right after he hears the marriage supper
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of the Lamb announced. The second is right after he's
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been shown the Holy City, and the throne of God
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and of the Lamb. Both times he falls immediately after
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the most glorious things he has been shown. The pole
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to bow down wasn't strongest when John was weakest. It
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was strongest when he was seeing the most. Glory, bottom line,
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it overwhelms. And the being who happens to be standing
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next to glory can end up receiving what belongs to
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the glory itself. That's true of angels. It's also true
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of preachers and worship leaders and anyone else who stands
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near something holy long enough to be mistaken for the
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source of it. The second clue is who he was
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writing to. Seven churches in Asia with Laodicea Among them
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in the valley where worshiping angels had already been warned
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against by name and where centuries later councils were still
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trying to root it out. John's first readers lived in
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the exact place where this temptation was strongest. They needed
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to hear the warning and they needed to hear it
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more than once. The third clue is that he used himself.
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he didn't write some among you have been bowing to angels.
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He wrote it. I did it. I, John, the one
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who saw Jesus in chapter one, the one entrusted with
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this whole revelation. If the man who was the most
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could be pulled sideways, then one, then no one reading
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the book stands above the warning. He made his own
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failure the example, and he made it twice. So nobody
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could mistake it for a slip of the pen. The
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last clue is the correction itself. Both times, the angel
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lands on the same two words, worship God. It never
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tells John he should have known better. It doesn't shame him.
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It turns him back towards the throne, turns him back
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towards God. And then the book simply goes on. John
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is a disqualified. Right after the second correction, he told,
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seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book,
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for the time is at hand. The man who bowed
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twice is still the man trusted to carry the message.
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So this is what I believe the answer is. John
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wrote it down twice because none of us ever graduate
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past needing the correction. Seeing the throne in chapter one
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did not make him immune to chapter 19. Or in
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chapter 22, what protected him wasn't that he had seen
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enough never to stumble. It was that when he stumbled,
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he had stood in front of the throne long enough
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to recognize the voice that turned him around, and he turned.
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Got it? To God. That's what Psalm 89 and Hebrews
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1 are for. They aren't there to make us small.
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They're there to fix the throne in our eyes before
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we start looking at everything that stands around it. Ethan
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looked up before he brought his complaint. Hebrews seats the
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son on the throne in its first chapter before it
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says anything else about anything. And this morning we looked
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at that throne before we spend a week looking at
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the beings around it. This week, you're going to see
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some glorious things described and some frightening ones. If you
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feel that pull at some point, and you might, you
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already know what the angel told John. Now I want
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to turn to you. Every Sunday, we set aside time
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for your prayer requests. If there's something you'd like us
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to pray for, send it. Send it in private, send
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it in public. I write it all down and say,
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pray for me. Nothing else. Nothing else. It's all you
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need to do. So let's bring these to him together. Father,
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you know every one of these names and you know
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the ones that didn't get written down. We bring them
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to you and no one else. Where there's sickness, we
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ask you for healing. And where there's fear, we ask
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you for peace. Where someone has been listening to a
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voice that isn't yours, turn them back towards you as
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gently as the angel turned John. Your will be done
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in each of these lives as it is in heaven.
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And in Jesus' mighty name, amen. I'll close with the
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benediction from the end of the letter of Jude. Jude
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is a short book, and it's the book that tells
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us that when Michael the archangel disputed with the devil,
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he durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said,
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the Lord rebuke thee. Even the archangel deferred to the
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one above him. So it fits that the same short
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letter ends this way. Now unto him that is able
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to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless
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before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy to
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the only wise God, our Savior, be glory and majesty,
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dominion and power, both now and forever.
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Amen.
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Tomorrow we start the Elohim. We'll begin with one Hebrew
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word and with the woman at Endor who used it
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for something nobody expected. I'll see you then.
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Some need healing, some reborn But every soul that gathers
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here Can bring their questions, bring their fear The ground
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may be broken.
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The season may change, but the word that was spoken
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still remains.
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Plant the seed and let it grow.
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Trust the one who knows what we don't know.
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Through the fire, through.
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The rain, God is working through the joy and pain.
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Let the truth run deep inside.
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Let his word become our guide. Wherever this week may lead, Lord, let.
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Us carry Sunday's seed.
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There are battles no one sees Silent nights spent on
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our knees Questions hanging in the air Names we bring before.
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You in prayer For the weary and afraid For the
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choices yet unmade For the lost who need.
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A light For the ones still fighting through the.
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Night The ground may be broken season may change.
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But the word that.
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Was spoken still remains plant the seed let it grow.
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Trust the one who knows what we don't know through
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the fire through the rain God is working through the
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joy and pain.
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Let the truth run deep inside.
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Let his word become our guide wherever.
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We don't gather just to hear Words that disappear from
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here Send us.
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Out with hearts awake Give us courage for your name's sake.
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When the world says truth can bend Keep us faithful
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to the end When.
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The darkness calls our name Let us answer.
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In Jesus' name.
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Some seeds fall on hardened ground.
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Some get lost and can't be found.
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Some take root.
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When no one sees. Growing slowly on.
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So we trust you with the field Trust you with
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what it will yield We.
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Will water, we will.
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Sow You alone can make it.
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Grow Give us heart to see. Give us ears to hear.
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Give us faith to follow.
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When the roads aren't clear.
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Give us strength to stand.
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Give us hearts that sing. Let your truth.
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Be louder than the voices that we make. Plant the seed.
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And let it grow. Trust the one who knows what
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you need.
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The rain god is working through the joy and pain let.
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The truth run deep.
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Inside let his word become our guide wherever this week
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may lead lord let us carry.
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Let it grow. Take the truth everywhere we go.
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Through the valley, through the flame.
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We will stand upon Jesus' name.
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Let the truth run deep inside.
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Let His Word become our guide.
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Until next Sunday when we meet. Lord, keep growing Sunday seed.
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Till we meet again, keep your eyes on Him. Through
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every road, through every need.
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Let the Word take root and grow the seed.
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Thank you.