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I was recently asked by a music business guy, very successful, how old I was.
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And I told him, Oh, I'm 21.
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And he was like, Well, how old do you tell people?
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Like, what's your stage age?
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Like, how what age are you gonna go by?
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And I was like, 21.
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Because truly I do believe like we create the society we live in, like we create what we're gonna believe in.
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And the Lord is never going to not give me an opportunity because of my age.
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That's ridiculous.
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And so I think there is a pressure.
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I was either like, okay, I can spend the next 10 years of my 20s.
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Like, what am I doing?
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Or just purely enjoying the ride.
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Y'all, I'm so excited to be sitting here with Izzy Mahubi.
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And Izzy, thanks for coming.
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Thank you for having.
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Welcome to the show.
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Thank you.
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I feel like this is like a little deviation from what we usually have on the show.
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Cause like people ask me this all the time.
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They're like, hey, is your show a country music show?
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Like, no, it's a Nashville show.
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And we like all music in Nashville.
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You, I read something about you that I thought was such a great way to say it.
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It was like, you're actually gonna take Nashville to like the stratosphere with rock.
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Like you've got this really cool rock vibe.
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You have some country elements to you, of course.
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But how would you define your music?
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Yeah, well, thank you.
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That's so nice.
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Um, well, I grew up in the Southwest, and uh, I feel like Arizona is a big part of when I found out Stevie Nicks was from Arizona, I was like, okay, well, this is going to be my entire personality now.
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And grew up on a lot of Fleet with Mac and Led Zeppelin and Tom Petty, and I was listening to Patty Smith this morning, and just people that I feel so connected to, as cheesy as it sounds.
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And I think that rock element of uh music is something that's so exciting to me.
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And then when I moved to Nashville, the songwriters that I was started listening to was such a huge part of okay, I want to take rock and I want to take the songwriting I love and make it something.
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So yeah, I've been loving it.
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I gosh, I love hearing that.
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Also, it's so cool because you're so young to use those people as your influences.
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Um, amazing.
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I love making Stevie Nicks your entire personality.
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I'm here for it.
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Yeah, you can do it.
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You've got the vibe.
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Thank you.
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You have it, yeah.
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So, how old were you when you started in music?
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Uh, probably 11.
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That's when I first started taking guitar lessons at this little mom and pop guitar shop in Arizona.
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They have since closed.
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But yeah, it's 11 and started gigging and all the stuff.
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I'm constantly blown away by this.
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That at 11 years old, you're taking guitar lessons and gigging.
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And your your voice is so cool.
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But I actually I think the thing that kind of stopped me in my tracks when I was like, wait, I need Izzy on the show immediately was your guitar playing.
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Oh thank you.
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I was like, what?
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This is the coolest.
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Like, because I don't know.
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I think I grew up in a different time than you, you know, where like girls didn't really play guitar.
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Yeah, it wasn't cool.
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Yeah.
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And I wanted to play guitar, but then it was like, no, guitars were big and girls were supposed to be, you know, yeah, girly.
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Yeah.
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And you have just squashed that completely because you're like, I can be girly and just absolutely slay on guitar.
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Like you, you're a legitimate guitarist.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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So, I mean, do people tell you that?
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Is that something that you feel like if people say about you?
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Well, I mean, I always, when people say that, you're always like, Oh, well, I'm not as I'm not as far as where I want to be yet.
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And I think there's women, the women that have inspired me to become incredible guitarists.
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Like, obviously, when I first moved here, the first show I saw here was Grace Bowers, played The Underdog.
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And it was her residency show, and I was like, holy cow, this is insane.
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And she's younger than me, and she's an insane guitarist and songwriter.
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And then my best friend, her name's Jade, she's an incredible artist in town, and she's an incredible guitarist too.
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And so that was pushing me to be like, okay, you know, I've always loved playing guitar, but I knew that my songwriting could be something even more special if I really kind of honed in on my guitar playing and what I love in that.
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And so I love I love guitar.
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Sue me.
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I know I love it.
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And this is what I get excited about because I think that you're you're the kind of person that I want, like, I want little girls to look up to you and be like, be your own person, like find your identity and just like own it.
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Yeah.
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But also, like, I'm 45 and I'm looking up to you going, yes, like that's exactly how we need to live life.
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Yeah.
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Just own it.
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Like, so I like guitar, Sue me.
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And and not just light guitar.
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Like, I can't wait for people to now go check you out if they don't already know you because you're so talented.
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Oh, but you and Jade have a new song.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She's on your new song, right?
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Yes.
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She's injured.
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Hound of the Strays.
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Hound of the Strays.
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Yeah.
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Tell me about this.
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So we me and Jade and our friend Layla, we last summer were like, let's we had the opportunity to write for a movie.
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So we were like, okay, let's take the next day and a half and just write a bunch of songs.
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And we wrote probably five or six songs in this day and a half.
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And they were all, it was the first time we'd all written together, it was pure like the Lord was in the room.
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It was a magical experience.
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And Hannah the Strace was the first one we wrote, inspired by Lord of the Rings, and inspired by being lost in your 20s, but not being lost.
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And um, it has that, you know, Southwest sort of rootsy feel, which is so fun.
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And then my friend, Jade and Layla are singing on the heart on the courses.
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So it just feels, it just feels like me and my friends are singing, and it's so fun.
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And I love it.
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I'm so excited about it.
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Yeah, so it's out.
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I mean, people can listen to it now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's awesome.
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Let me ask you this.
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Okay, I don't usually ask people how old they are, but um, how old are you?
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I just turned 22.
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You're 22.
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You just said something that the reason I want to ask is you're like finding yourself and kind of feeling lost in your 20s.
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Yeah.
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Gosh, I feel that way.
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Like I I had at 25, I say I had a quarter life crisis.
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I stole that from John Mayer.
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It's a genius line.
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It is.
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And I really did.
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I was like, who am I?
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What am I doing?
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Have I done enough?
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Do you feel like that?
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Like, what do you mean when you say like lost in your 20s?
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean the pressure on anyone at any age, especially women, just to keep reinventing themselves and be some level of themselves that the the world thinks that they need to be.
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I mean, it's the biggest block in your life, saying you, but in my life has been myself and being whatever pressure I think I need to be at at 20, 21 and 22.
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And it's funny because I was recently asked by a music business guy, very successful, how old I was.
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And I told him, Oh, I'm 21.
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And he's like, Well, how old do you tell people?
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Like, what's your stage age?
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Like, how what age are you gonna go by?
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And I was like, 21.
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Because truly I do believe like we create the society we live in, like we create what we're gonna believe in, and the Lord is never going to not give me an opportunity because of my age.
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That's ridiculous.
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And so I think there is a pressure.
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I was either like, okay, I can spend the next 10 years of my 20s, like, what am I doing?
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Or just purely enjoying the ride.
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Like, yeah, there's a line in the songs like maybe not all who's wandering is lost, and that's just straight up from Lord of the Rings.
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But it's true.
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Like, just because you're wandering and you're trying to figure it out does not mean that you're lost and that's a bad thing.
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So no, that's what I think.
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Amen to that.
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And I think it's just the reason that the way you said that made me really kind of like pause is I I just saw this recently.
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I don't remember who it was, but a a star, like a movie star was saying, you know, as a woman, I get asked about my age all the time.
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Yeah.
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And women get asked more than men.
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And it is true, yeah.
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That like we we think about it in a different way.
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And it's it's a weird world that we live in because it's like you have to accomplish so much by a certain age.
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But then, you know, now I'm on like the whole, I'm 20 plus years ahead of you, right?
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Like at 45, you start going, Oh, am I supposed to chase a dream?
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Am I supposed to like just fade into the background?
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Yeah.
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What am I supposed to wear?
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Yeah.
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I don't know how this is supposed to be.
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And I think one of the things that stands out with you, I mean, I just felt this about you through like literally social media, which is wild, which is why I was like, Hey, I need Izzy on the show, like immediately.
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I mean, I did, I was like, wait, when can we get Izzy?
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Because I think that you have a lot of wisdom that I think it it's hard to find, like at a young age.
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But I really appreciate that you're kind of just out there sharing it and saying, you know what?
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No, like the opportunities will be there for you.
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Be who you are.
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Yeah.
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Be the age you are.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you.
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I appreciate that.
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I mean, Dolly, um, it's time we bring her up in this conversation.
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Yeah.
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She is like, she's the most punk rock icon, in my opinion.
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Of there's nothing more punk rock than being kind and being so uh firm on your self-worth.
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Like she was never going to let anybody be like, well, you're getting up there in age, so you should probably reconsider what you're doing.
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No, she was so kind about it, but she let you know that she had a gun in her purse, you know what I mean?
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Like, so yeah, I just think that yeah.
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I love that it's Dolly is punk rock, Dolly is country, Dolly's Christian artist, Dolly is all of it.
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Yes, yeah, and you can be all of it.
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Yeah, you can be.
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Yeah, if there's anything that we can take away from Dolly, like be kind, be yourself.
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Yeah.
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Don't let a label define you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dolly.
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And you, like, I think what's so fun about you too is that you're doing that with your music.
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Like you, you became actually, I will say, like, known, right?
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You had a video go viral.
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What was the song that you played?
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It was do you know Rage Against the Machine?
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Yes.
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It was Killing in the Name.
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It was the their their hits.
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So that was awesome.
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That's like I grew up on that, you know, grunge rock in the back of my dad's car.
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And but it was a a southwest version of it.
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So, and people lost their minds about it a little bit.
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Like seven million people immediately were like, wait, we love this.
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Yeah, no big deal.
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Yeah, that was crazy because I was getting 1,000 views on less than that on all of my videos.
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And I was at a place where, you know, you're still trying to figure out you're trying to figure out your sound until some people, you know, latch onto it.
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And you're like, okay, you take, you know, people were throwing out, this is giving Southern Gothic, or this is giving Southwest email, or this is this.
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And then you you take that and you're like, oh yeah, I am that, you know, I've been that.
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I just didn't know how to market it.
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And that's what this all is of Hound of the Strays.
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I wrote that song with my friends a year ago, like way before this cover blew up.
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But now it's like, okay, well, I just know how to market it now because of social media.
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And that is the gift of social media, along with all of the downsides to it.
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But it is a gift.
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So did you just wake up one day and all of a sudden you were like, what happened overnight?
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Yeah, I and what's so funny is the night that I the day that I was filming and I filmed that video earlier that day, I was crashing out because I was trying to film content all day, and I was just like, I don't like the way it sounded, no one is responding.
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I remember talking to my dad, like, I don't want to do this anymore.
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Like, I don't know if I can do the artistry thing, nobody, you know, it's just discouraging.
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And I went over to my friend's house and sorry, we hung out and it, I think we watched like The Outsiders, and I was like, I'm in love with Roblo.
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It was great.
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And then I went home and just very quickly filmed the guitar cover, didn't think twice about it.
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And then the next day it had like 80,000 views, and I was like, what the heck?
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Like genuinely.
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So that's when I was like, oh, I need I need to jump on this.
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And so that was really cool.
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Inspired by Rob Lowe.
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Yeah, honestly.
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If you're ever feeling down, just turn on old Rob Lowe, you'll feel okay.
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I agree.
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I totally agree.
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I loved him in The West Wing.
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Did you watch that?
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I haven't seen that.
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That might mean not it's you might have singed that one.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so I think then what's super cool is that you've since done you've done a lot of things where you're like, hey, this is my song, and it sounds like this or inspired by this.
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Like you had one recently, was it Phoebe Phoebe Bridgers that you did?
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Yeah, I did a Nirvana cover, but I she had recently, Phoebe Bridgers had just done um Lithium by Nirvana.
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And I was like, oh, that's brilliant.
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So it was kind of that sort of vibe.
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It's so cool.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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You remind me of Brandy Carlisle when she was getting started.
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Say it again.
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Ladder.
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No, I was kidding.
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You really do.
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No, and you should react like that because if anyone ever says that, like that to me, I mean, that's sweet.
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She's it.
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She is it.
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I just saw her at Bridgestone.
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I sat in the last row at Bridgestone, and she started playing um her new song Return to Myself or Return to Myself.
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I was crying the entire time.
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And it was genuinely, I did not care that we were in the very last row.
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It was the one of the greatest shows I've ever seen.
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And she was one of the first people I started.
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I started gigging when I was 11, 12.
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Like I was covering, I've been covering the joke since I was 12.
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And seeing that live, I'd never seen her before, was just like like this is the one of the people that inspires me to get out of bed and write songs.
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It's just oh yeah.
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It's she she was really incredible.
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Yeah.
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And obviously the story, the story's the best song of all time.
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It's the best song of all time.
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I really have to hear you do it now.
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Oh my gosh.
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I have to.
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I I've been waiting to cover that song.
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There's a venue in Arizona that's like my dream venue to play.
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And I'm like, once I play that venue, I'm gonna cover that song.
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What's the venue?
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It's called the Van Buren.
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Okay, which I'm actually, randomly enough, I'm playing there at the in a couple weeks, the show will already be aired.
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But I'm playing a dolly tribute there.
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So I'm really excited.
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Ow.
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Yeah, it'll be really sweet.
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That will be incredible.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay, so then the joke is coming.
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The joke is coming.
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Yes.
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Someday.
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I think that's one of the best songs of all time.
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Yeah.
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When I first moved to Nashville, I moved to Nashville in 2006.
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Okay.
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And a friend of mine, Patrick Clifford, said, You got to go to this show with me.
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And it was at um 12th and Porter.
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Okay.
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And which was at the time just the place for showcases.
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And he's like, You got to go with me.
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There's this girl that you you have to hear this voice.
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And I was like, Okay, cool.
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Like he knows music.
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You know, he worked with the Beatles.
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So I was like, Patrick says yes, we go.
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So we went.
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And I stood in the back of that room, also like mouth on the floor, just like, what is happening?
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Just watched her up there, the voice.
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I mean, you get chills just thinking.
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No, I got it, right?
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Chills.
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Just think about it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I just um I think he's really, it's not so often that I get that feeling about artists.
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Like, I I love music.
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Like, I sometimes think, gosh, is anyone still watching this show?
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Because I'm such a music nerd.
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But there are enough of us out there.
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No, and that's the whole point.
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That's the whole point.
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I love that that you love music because it is about the music.
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It's about the music.
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And I mean, Brady Carlisle, if I just cover the joke in the back of bars for the rest of my life, like that is a gift enough.
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Cause like that song is genuinely, I mean, got me through middle school and high school.
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So in the rest of my life.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's really, it's something.
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I love it.
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But and I didn't know that you loved her like that.
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But that's crazy.
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It's like, yeah.
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Well, and that's what I think you have, you share that thing that's deeper than just um talent.
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That's, and I don't want to say just talent, but that is kind of the thing that drew me to you was that I was like, okay, check the box on talent for sure.
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Check the box on true like musician and artist, because I think it's amazing that you're eight.
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And listen, I mean, there are plenty of people who have an amazing voice and don't play an instrument.
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Nothing against it.
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Totally.
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But you you've like extra boxes checked.
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But then I just could feel it.
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It was like there's something deeper that is you've got a connection, like a soul connection with music.
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Well, I br I I think about it all day long.
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So I'm thinking about lyrics and just the people I love all day long.
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So I I really do appreciate that.
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And it's the artists that I um look up to the most aren't the best singers or aren't the most talented 150 Grammys.
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They are the people that wrote books and are uh so they do it because of the love of the craft and love of people and not just the music or viral whatever.
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So yeah.
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I agree.
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So what would you be doing if you weren't doing this?
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Um I love when people ask that because I have two answers.
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I would write poems.
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That would be my I would try to be just I'd write poetry and write books.
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But if I didn't do that, no creative anything, I'd want to be a firefighter.
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Whoa.
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Because I think what's more badass than that?
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Nothing.
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This is amazing.
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This is who you are.
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Yeah.
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That is it.
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That's it.
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That's who you are.
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Firefighter in my soul.
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Yeah, I want to drive the truck.
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So somebody let her drive the truck.
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Yeah, that's it.
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I really kind of need this as a music video.
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Well, just saying, let's find somebody, make this happen.
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Yeah.
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Firefighter in your soul.
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Yeah.
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Just decided right now that's the name of this episode.
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Cool.
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That's who you are.
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Yeah.
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That is who you are.
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And I love that.
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And it's so crazy that, like, that that's that is it.
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I think that describes you.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Thanks.
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I'm but please don't ever quit music.
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Ever, ever, ever.
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I can't.
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You can't.
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No.
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No.
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It would draw you back.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'd be writing.
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I mean, so I saw Taylor Swift at the Ryman a couple of years ago.
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She was an accept she was accepting artists of the decade with the NSAI awards.
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And she said, like, thank you for um, you know, giving me this award for something I'd be doing if nobody ever cared that I ever was doing this.
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And I truly, I I mean, she's put out something out of the she is one of those artists that's like, she would be writing songs if nobody cared.
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And that you have to ask yourself that at every stage of this career and be like, would I still be doing this if nobody cared?
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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Oh my gosh, you are you are incredible.
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I adore you.
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I really do.
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And um, because you're right, it's like we all have to ask ourselves that yeah, would you be doing this if no one cared?
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Yeah.
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You have to like follow, follow the dreams.
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I'm an ultimate dreamer.
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That's why we're sitting here.
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Yeah, I love it.
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I'm here for the dreamers, and I just really like it was exciting for me to discover you and have a platform where I can then go tell other people, say, you know, you guys have to go check out Izima Hoobie because this is a name that I'm gonna be like just like I was 20 years ago with Brandy Carlisle.
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And then when people were like, wait, do you know this person?
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I'm like, Yeah, in fact I do.
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And that's I'm gonna say that about you.
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Well, thank you so much.
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Yeah, so I'm pumped about the new song.
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Thank you.
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And can't wait to hear the joke.
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You're gonna come back and do it.
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Oh, yeah, it's here, right here.
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Yeah, yeah, that would be awesome.
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Got it.
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I'm gonna give you my little baby guitar over there and make you do it right now.
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Thanks for being here.
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Like, no, you were you're you're iconic.
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Thank you so much.
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I appreciate it.
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All right, well, y'all don't forget to check out Izzy and um you can say you knew her here first.
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Sometimes a girl's gotta find her way on her own, free to roam when they make mistakes.
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I was recently asked by a music business guy, very successful, how old I was.
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And I told him, Oh, I'm 21.
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And he was like, Well, how old do you tell people?
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Like, what's your stage age?
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Like, how what age are you gonna go by?
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And I was like, 21.
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Because truly I do believe like we create the society we live in, like we create what we're gonna believe in.
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And the Lord is never going to not give me an opportunity because of my age.
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That's ridiculous.
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And so I think there is a pressure.
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I was either like, okay, I can spend the next 10 years of my 20s.
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Like, what am I doing?
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Or just purely enjoying the ride.
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Y'all, I'm so excited to be sitting here with Izzy Mahubi.
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And Izzy, thanks for coming.
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Thank you for having.
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Welcome to the show.
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Thank you.
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I feel like this is like a little deviation from what we usually have on the show.
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Cause like people ask me this all the time.
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They're like, hey, is your show a country music show?
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Like, no, it's a Nashville show.
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And we like all music in Nashville.
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You, I read something about you that I thought was such a great way to say it.
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It was like, you're actually gonna take Nashville to like the stratosphere with rock.
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Like you've got this really cool rock vibe.
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You have some country elements to you, of course.
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But how would you define your music?
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Yeah, well, thank you.
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That's so nice.
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Um, well, I grew up in the Southwest, and uh, I feel like Arizona is a big part of when I found out Stevie Nicks was from Arizona, I was like, okay, well, this is going to be my entire personality now.
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And grew up on a lot of Fleet with Mac and Led Zeppelin and Tom Petty, and I was listening to Patty Smith this morning, and just people that I feel so connected to, as cheesy as it sounds.
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And I think that rock element of uh music is something that's so exciting to me.
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And then when I moved to Nashville, the songwriters that I was started listening to was such a huge part of okay, I want to take rock and I want to take the songwriting I love and make it something.
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So yeah, I've been loving it.
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I gosh, I love hearing that.
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Also, it's so cool because you're so young to use those people as your influences.
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Um, amazing.
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I love making Stevie Nicks your entire personality.
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I'm here for it.
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Yeah, you can do it.
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You've got the vibe.
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Thank you.
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You have it, yeah.
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So, how old were you when you started in music?
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Uh, probably 11.
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That's when I first started taking guitar lessons at this little mom and pop guitar shop in Arizona.
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They have since closed.
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But yeah, it's 11 and started gigging and all the stuff.
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I'm constantly blown away by this.
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That at 11 years old, you're taking guitar lessons and gigging.
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And your your voice is so cool.
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But I actually I think the thing that kind of stopped me in my tracks when I was like, wait, I need Izzy on the show immediately was your guitar playing.
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Oh thank you.
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I was like, what?
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This is the coolest.
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Like, because I don't know.
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I think I grew up in a different time than you, you know, where like girls didn't really play guitar.
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Yeah, it wasn't cool.
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Yeah.
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And I wanted to play guitar, but then it was like, no, guitars were big and girls were supposed to be, you know, yeah, girly.
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Yeah.
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And you have just squashed that completely because you're like, I can be girly and just absolutely slay on guitar.
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Like you, you're a legitimate guitarist.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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So, I mean, do people tell you that?
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Is that something that you feel like if people say about you?
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Well, I mean, I always, when people say that, you're always like, Oh, well, I'm not as I'm not as far as where I want to be yet.
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And I think there's women, the women that have inspired me to become incredible guitarists.
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Like, obviously, when I first moved here, the first show I saw here was Grace Bowers, played The Underdog.
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And it was her residency show, and I was like, holy cow, this is insane.
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And she's younger than me, and she's an insane guitarist and songwriter.
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And then my best friend, her name's Jade, she's an incredible artist in town, and she's an incredible guitarist too.
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And so that was pushing me to be like, okay, you know, I've always loved playing guitar, but I knew that my songwriting could be something even more special if I really kind of honed in on my guitar playing and what I love in that.
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And so I love I love guitar.
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Sue me.
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I know I love it.
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And this is what I get excited about because I think that you're you're the kind of person that I want, like, I want little girls to look up to you and be like, be your own person, like find your identity and just like own it.
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Yeah.
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But also, like, I'm 45 and I'm looking up to you going, yes, like that's exactly how we need to live life.
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Yeah.
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Just own it.
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Like, so I like guitar, Sue me.
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And and not just light guitar.
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Like, I can't wait for people to now go check you out if they don't already know you because you're so talented.
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Oh, but you and Jade have a new song.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She's on your new song, right?
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Yes.
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She's injured.
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Hound of the Strays.
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Hound of the Strays.
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Yeah.
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Tell me about this.
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So we me and Jade and our friend Layla, we last summer were like, let's we had the opportunity to write for a movie.
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So we were like, okay, let's take the next day and a half and just write a bunch of songs.
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And we wrote probably five or six songs in this day and a half.
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And they were all, it was the first time we'd all written together, it was pure like the Lord was in the room.
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It was a magical experience.
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And Hannah the Strace was the first one we wrote, inspired by Lord of the Rings, and inspired by being lost in your 20s, but not being lost.
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And um, it has that, you know, Southwest sort of rootsy feel, which is so fun.
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And then my friend, Jade and Layla are singing on the heart on the courses.
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So it just feels, it just feels like me and my friends are singing, and it's so fun.
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And I love it.
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I'm so excited about it.
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Yeah, so it's out.
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I mean, people can listen to it now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's awesome.
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Let me ask you this.
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Okay, I don't usually ask people how old they are, but um, how old are you?
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I just turned 22.
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You're 22.
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You just said something that the reason I want to ask is you're like finding yourself and kind of feeling lost in your 20s.
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Yeah.
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Gosh, I feel that way.
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Like I I had at 25, I say I had a quarter life crisis.
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I stole that from John Mayer.
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It's a genius line.
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It is.
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And I really did.
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I was like, who am I?
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What am I doing?
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Have I done enough?
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Do you feel like that?
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Like, what do you mean when you say like lost in your 20s?
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean the pressure on anyone at any age, especially women, just to keep reinventing themselves and be some level of themselves that the the world thinks that they need to be.
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I mean, it's the biggest block in your life, saying you, but in my life has been myself and being whatever pressure I think I need to be at at 20, 21 and 22.
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And it's funny because I was recently asked by a music business guy, very successful, how old I was.
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And I told him, Oh, I'm 21.
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And he's like, Well, how old do you tell people?
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Like, what's your stage age?
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Like, how what age are you gonna go by?
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And I was like, 21.
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Because truly I do believe like we create the society we live in, like we create what we're gonna believe in, and the Lord is never going to not give me an opportunity because of my age.
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That's ridiculous.
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And so I think there is a pressure.
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I was either like, okay, I can spend the next 10 years of my 20s, like, what am I doing?
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Or just purely enjoying the ride.
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Like, yeah, there's a line in the songs like maybe not all who's wandering is lost, and that's just straight up from Lord of the Rings.
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But it's true.
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Like, just because you're wandering and you're trying to figure it out does not mean that you're lost and that's a bad thing.
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So no, that's what I think.
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Amen to that.
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And I think it's just the reason that the way you said that made me really kind of like pause is I I just saw this recently.
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I don't remember who it was, but a a star, like a movie star was saying, you know, as a woman, I get asked about my age all the time.
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Yeah.
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And women get asked more than men.
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And it is true, yeah.
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That like we we think about it in a different way.
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And it's it's a weird world that we live in because it's like you have to accomplish so much by a certain age.
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But then, you know, now I'm on like the whole, I'm 20 plus years ahead of you, right?
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Like at 45, you start going, Oh, am I supposed to chase a dream?
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Am I supposed to like just fade into the background?
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Yeah.
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What am I supposed to wear?
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Yeah.
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I don't know how this is supposed to be.
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And I think one of the things that stands out with you, I mean, I just felt this about you through like literally social media, which is wild, which is why I was like, Hey, I need Izzy on the show, like immediately.
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I mean, I did, I was like, wait, when can we get Izzy?
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Because I think that you have a lot of wisdom that I think it it's hard to find, like at a young age.
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But I really appreciate that you're kind of just out there sharing it and saying, you know what?
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No, like the opportunities will be there for you.
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Be who you are.
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Yeah.
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Be the age you are.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you.
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I appreciate that.
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I mean, Dolly, um, it's time we bring her up in this conversation.
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Yeah.
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She is like, she's the most punk rock icon, in my opinion.
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Of there's nothing more punk rock than being kind and being so uh firm on your self-worth.
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Like she was never going to let anybody be like, well, you're getting up there in age, so you should probably reconsider what you're doing.
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No, she was so kind about it, but she let you know that she had a gun in her purse, you know what I mean?
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Like, so yeah, I just think that yeah.
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I love that it's Dolly is punk rock, Dolly is country, Dolly's Christian artist, Dolly is all of it.
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Yes, yeah, and you can be all of it.
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Yeah, you can be.
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Yeah, if there's anything that we can take away from Dolly, like be kind, be yourself.
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Yeah.
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Don't let a label define you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dolly.
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And you, like, I think what's so fun about you too is that you're doing that with your music.
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Like you, you became actually, I will say, like, known, right?
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You had a video go viral.
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What was the song that you played?
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It was do you know Rage Against the Machine?
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Yes.
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It was Killing in the Name.
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It was the their their hits.
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So that was awesome.
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That's like I grew up on that, you know, grunge rock in the back of my dad's car.
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And but it was a a southwest version of it.
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So, and people lost their minds about it a little bit.
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Like seven million people immediately were like, wait, we love this.
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Yeah, no big deal.
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Yeah, that was crazy because I was getting 1,000 views on less than that on all of my videos.
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And I was at a place where, you know, you're still trying to figure out you're trying to figure out your sound until some people, you know, latch onto it.
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And you're like, okay, you take, you know, people were throwing out, this is giving Southern Gothic, or this is giving Southwest email, or this is this.
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And then you you take that and you're like, oh yeah, I am that, you know, I've been that.
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I just didn't know how to market it.
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And that's what this all is of Hound of the Strays.
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I wrote that song with my friends a year ago, like way before this cover blew up.
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But now it's like, okay, well, I just know how to market it now because of social media.
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And that is the gift of social media, along with all of the downsides to it.
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But it is a gift.
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So did you just wake up one day and all of a sudden you were like, what happened overnight?
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Yeah, I and what's so funny is the night that I the day that I was filming and I filmed that video earlier that day, I was crashing out because I was trying to film content all day, and I was just like, I don't like the way it sounded, no one is responding.
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I remember talking to my dad, like, I don't want to do this anymore.
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Like, I don't know if I can do the artistry thing, nobody, you know, it's just discouraging.
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And I went over to my friend's house and sorry, we hung out and it, I think we watched like The Outsiders, and I was like, I'm in love with Roblo.
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It was great.
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And then I went home and just very quickly filmed the guitar cover, didn't think twice about it.
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And then the next day it had like 80,000 views, and I was like, what the heck?
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Like genuinely.
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So that's when I was like, oh, I need I need to jump on this.
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And so that was really cool.
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Inspired by Rob Lowe.
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Yeah, honestly.
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If you're ever feeling down, just turn on old Rob Lowe, you'll feel okay.
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I agree.
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I totally agree.
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I loved him in The West Wing.
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Did you watch that?
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I haven't seen that.
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That might mean not it's you might have singed that one.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so I think then what's super cool is that you've since done you've done a lot of things where you're like, hey, this is my song, and it sounds like this or inspired by this.
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Like you had one recently, was it Phoebe Phoebe Bridgers that you did?
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Yeah, I did a Nirvana cover, but I she had recently, Phoebe Bridgers had just done um Lithium by Nirvana.
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And I was like, oh, that's brilliant.
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So it was kind of that sort of vibe.
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It's so cool.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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You remind me of Brandy Carlisle when she was getting started.
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Say it again.
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Ladder.
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No, I was kidding.
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You really do.
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No, and you should react like that because if anyone ever says that, like that to me, I mean, that's sweet.
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She's it.
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She is it.
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I just saw her at Bridgestone.
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I sat in the last row at Bridgestone, and she started playing um her new song Return to Myself or Return to Myself.
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I was crying the entire time.
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And it was genuinely, I did not care that we were in the very last row.
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It was the one of the greatest shows I've ever seen.
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And she was one of the first people I started.
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I started gigging when I was 11, 12.
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Like I was covering, I've been covering the joke since I was 12.
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And seeing that live, I'd never seen her before, was just like like this is the one of the people that inspires me to get out of bed and write songs.
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It's just oh yeah.
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It's she she was really incredible.
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Yeah.
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And obviously the story, the story's the best song of all time.
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It's the best song of all time.
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I really have to hear you do it now.
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Oh my gosh.
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I have to.
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I I've been waiting to cover that song.
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There's a venue in Arizona that's like my dream venue to play.
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And I'm like, once I play that venue, I'm gonna cover that song.
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What's the venue?
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It's called the Van Buren.
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Okay, which I'm actually, randomly enough, I'm playing there at the in a couple weeks, the show will already be aired.
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But I'm playing a dolly tribute there.
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So I'm really excited.
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Ow.
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Yeah, it'll be really sweet.
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That will be incredible.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay, so then the joke is coming.
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The joke is coming.
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Yes.
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Someday.
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I think that's one of the best songs of all time.
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Yeah.
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When I first moved to Nashville, I moved to Nashville in 2006.
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Okay.
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And a friend of mine, Patrick Clifford, said, You got to go to this show with me.
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And it was at um 12th and Porter.
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Okay.
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And which was at the time just the place for showcases.
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And he's like, You got to go with me.
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There's this girl that you you have to hear this voice.
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And I was like, Okay, cool.
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Like he knows music.
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You know, he worked with the Beatles.
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So I was like, Patrick says yes, we go.
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So we went.
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And I stood in the back of that room, also like mouth on the floor, just like, what is happening?
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Just watched her up there, the voice.
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I mean, you get chills just thinking.
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No, I got it, right?
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Chills.
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Just think about it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I just um I think he's really, it's not so often that I get that feeling about artists.
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Like, I I love music.
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Like, I sometimes think, gosh, is anyone still watching this show?
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Because I'm such a music nerd.
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But there are enough of us out there.
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No, and that's the whole point.
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That's the whole point.
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I love that that you love music because it is about the music.
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It's about the music.
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And I mean, Brady Carlisle, if I just cover the joke in the back of bars for the rest of my life, like that is a gift enough.
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Cause like that song is genuinely, I mean, got me through middle school and high school.
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So in the rest of my life.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's really, it's something.
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I love it.
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But and I didn't know that you loved her like that.
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But that's crazy.
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It's like, yeah.
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Well, and that's what I think you have, you share that thing that's deeper than just um talent.
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That's, and I don't want to say just talent, but that is kind of the thing that drew me to you was that I was like, okay, check the box on talent for sure.
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Check the box on true like musician and artist, because I think it's amazing that you're eight.
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And listen, I mean, there are plenty of people who have an amazing voice and don't play an instrument.
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Nothing against it.
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Totally.
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But you you've like extra boxes checked.
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But then I just could feel it.
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It was like there's something deeper that is you've got a connection, like a soul connection with music.
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Well, I br I I think about it all day long.
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So I'm thinking about lyrics and just the people I love all day long.
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So I I really do appreciate that.
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And it's the artists that I um look up to the most aren't the best singers or aren't the most talented 150 Grammys.
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They are the people that wrote books and are uh so they do it because of the love of the craft and love of people and not just the music or viral whatever.
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So yeah.
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I agree.
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So what would you be doing if you weren't doing this?
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Um I love when people ask that because I have two answers.
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I would write poems.
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That would be my I would try to be just I'd write poetry and write books.
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But if I didn't do that, no creative anything, I'd want to be a firefighter.
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Whoa.
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Because I think what's more badass than that?
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Nothing.
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This is amazing.
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This is who you are.
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Yeah.
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That is it.
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That's it.
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That's who you are.
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Firefighter in my soul.
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Yeah, I want to drive the truck.
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So somebody let her drive the truck.
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Yeah, that's it.
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I really kind of need this as a music video.
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Well, just saying, let's find somebody, make this happen.
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Yeah.
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Firefighter in your soul.
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Yeah.
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Just decided right now that's the name of this episode.
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Cool.
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That's who you are.
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Yeah.
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That is who you are.
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And I love that.
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And it's so crazy that, like, that that's that is it.
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I think that describes you.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Thanks.
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I'm but please don't ever quit music.
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Ever, ever, ever.
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I can't.
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You can't.
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No.
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No.
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It would draw you back.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'd be writing.
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I mean, so I saw Taylor Swift at the Ryman a couple of years ago.
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She was an accept she was accepting artists of the decade with the NSAI awards.
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And she said, like, thank you for um, you know, giving me this award for something I'd be doing if nobody ever cared that I ever was doing this.
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And I truly, I I mean, she's put out something out of the she is one of those artists that's like, she would be writing songs if nobody cared.
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And that you have to ask yourself that at every stage of this career and be like, would I still be doing this if nobody cared?
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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Oh my gosh, you are you are incredible.
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I adore you.
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I really do.
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And um, because you're right, it's like we all have to ask ourselves that yeah, would you be doing this if no one cared?
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Yeah.
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You have to like follow, follow the dreams.
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I'm an ultimate dreamer.
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That's why we're sitting here.
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Yeah, I love it.
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I'm here for the dreamers, and I just really like it was exciting for me to discover you and have a platform where I can then go tell other people, say, you know, you guys have to go check out Izima Hoobie because this is a name that I'm gonna be like just like I was 20 years ago with Brandy Carlisle.
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And then when people were like, wait, do you know this person?
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I'm like, Yeah, in fact I do.
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And that's I'm gonna say that about you.
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Well, thank you so much.
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Yeah, so I'm pumped about the new song.
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Thank you.
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And can't wait to hear the joke.
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You're gonna come back and do it.
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Oh, yeah, it's here, right here.
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Yeah, yeah, that would be awesome.
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Got it.
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I'm gonna give you my little baby guitar over there and make you do it right now.
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Thanks for being here.
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Like, no, you were you're you're iconic.
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Thank you so much.
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I appreciate it.
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All right, well, y'all don't forget to check out Izzy and um you can say you knew her here first.
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Sometimes a girl's gotta find her way on her own, free to roam when they make mistakes.
