404th Floor: Value Without The Title

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Hey, it's Jen the Builder.
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And Corey.
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And welcome everyone to this episode into the elevator.
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I'm so excited to be here.
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It was such a wonderful day, and I can't think of anything else I'd rather do than recording this episode today with you, Corey.
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Well, wow.
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That's an honor, actually, because uh you were uh with me all day, so it must have been a really good day.
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It was.
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Uh let's want more.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Let's start off like this.
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So we had an amazing episode last week, and we got lots and lots of feedback.
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And we had one particular bit of feedback that I felt like I really needed to hear.
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And let me just share this with not just you, Jim, but the listeners as well.
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Um, sometimes you think you're going hard in the paint.
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What does that mean?
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You sometimes you think you're doing all that you can do, and then you have that one person that has that perspective that says, good, but I think you could do a little bit better.
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And I'm okay with that.
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That was great input that I got.
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And basically, uh there was a little bit more money on the table, and we left it there.
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And so we might have to go back and get some more.
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I love that.
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And this person expanded on what they meant.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Uh, gave me some tips.
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Uh, and by the way, his name is Tremel, gave me some tips on some other jobs, some other hustles, some other pieces of work that you can do that would not be in conflict.
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Um, one of them, which was brilliant, uh renting storage bins.
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I'll let you figure all the rest of that out.
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Renting out tables and chairs, I'll let you figure that out too.
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But just some really good ideas that just had me thinking and buzzing for the rest of the day, you know?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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So, for those who have not had a chance to listen to the last episode on our last ride, we talked about value, about not leaving money on the table, recognizing what you bring, and making sure you're not constantly giving away something valuable, such as yourself, while convincing yourself that it doesn't count.
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Or even your great ideas.
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That's right.
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And after that conversation, it's interesting because Jamel wanted to go deeper.
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Another question that stayed with you and I, and this one might be a little more uncomfortable, but the question is is what is your value without your title?
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Another way to see that is what's your value when nobody knows your title?
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Right?
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So, not what you do, not where you work, not how many we people report to you, not how many letters are behind your name, not how much money you make, or how many followers, followers you have.
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Who are you without all of that?
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Yeah, that's a very intense question when you're in a room full of people that carry a lot of weight in their titles, and so at that moment, everyone is the same.
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And so if you remove those titles, are are you carrying that same amount of weight or are you less of a person?
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Do you feel like you are just like everyone else?
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When in other spaces, you feel like I'm above everyone else in this room, and so we just wanted to ask the question.
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It's not up for us to answer it for you, but without that title, and let's take it one step further.
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And I love this part.
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What about if you walked into the room and you would consider yourself one of the lowest people in the room without that title?
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Does that change who you are?
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That's right.
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Because I think one too many times we confuse these questions.
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The what do you do?
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And we forget how to answer who are you?
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Right.
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And I think that's what we're really going to explore today is who are we and what are we are we becoming?
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Because there is a difference.
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So today we want to talk about identity, contribution, influence, purpose, and value beyond the title.
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Wow.
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So we're staying on the theme of value because if your title disappeared tomorrow, or if your job did, your kids grow up, whatever that looks like, your value shouldn't disappear with it.
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Right.
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Right.
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So, Jen, I'm gonna ask you a hypothetical pretend question and see how this plays out.
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You are one of the richest people on the planet, and you walk into a room with people you have no clue who they are, what they represent, what their titles are, and how much is in their bank account?
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Does that change your outlook or your way of walking into the room?
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Do you stand a little taller?
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Do you feel a little more important because you hold that title of one of the richest people, one of the most wealthiest people on the planet, or do you walk in feeling as if you are just no better than anyone else?
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Hmm.
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I want to make sure I answer this right.
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So just kindly repeat the question.
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Sure.
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Because that was a profound question, and I want it to land again.
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So I'm gonna ask you a hypothetical that's pretend, obviously.
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And you are the one of the richest people on this planet, and you walk into a room full of people, you have no idea what title they hold, how much is in their bank account.
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Do you walk in feeling a little more empowered, uh feeling a little bit more stronger?
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Do you walk in taller?
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Does it change who you are in any shape, form, or fashion?
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I don't think so.
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Please explain.
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I think, okay, so my imagination goes wild.
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So when you said you're the richest person, one of the richest people in the world, I'm thinking, how did I get here?
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What did I do?
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Who am I?
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Right?
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Like those are all great questions.
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And I I'll venture to say I want to know the story.
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I'll venture to say that most people that are the richest people on the planet are asking the same questions.
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You're not much different than them.
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That's great.
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So I think with that kind of weight that walks in with me.
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Right.
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So being one of the richest people, whether it just fell on my lap, I mean, there's a certain lifestyle I lead, there's a certain mentality I have about my status, like who I am, where I'm at in this big scheme of things.
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And um yeah, I think I do walk in with that.
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I think with title, whether people know your title or not, you tend to carry that with you.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So let me ask you one follow-up question and then feel free to jump in any way you feel.
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How do you, as that person with that kind of power and that kind of prestige, how do you even the playing field for that situation?
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If you can.
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You might you you may say, I can't.
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Uh there's no way I can do that, but in your mind, how would you even the playing field?
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This is me personally, and I don't know if one of the richest people could be listening in on this episode.
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That would be kind of wild.
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And um, they're probably like, what is she talking about?
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I think for me, what would um humble me would be I think that's what you're asking me.
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I don't know.
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I I'm I'm just gonna go with it.
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Sure.
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Um, I would just walk in the room going back to my value, if I may.
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For me, there's value that I hold like as far as my worth, right?
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There's value I hold because I have relational value or um value I bring, like market value, right?
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Professional value.
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I think for me to get to where everyone is, it's about my human value.
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Like I would imagine that if I was the richest person, one of the richest people in the world, I think with me would come in creativity.
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I think it takes courage for someone right now and my status to become the richest peep person in the world, right?
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You know what I mean?
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I might come in with someone who takes risk, who is like thinks outside the box and is a total innovator.
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So, with that being said, I just would love to see people for the value that they bring, not linked to their title or the amount of money they make.
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What about you?
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Well, I heard that a lot of people with a lot of wealth, um, the majority of people with a with a lot of wealth surround themselves with very smart people.
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Um, they also surround themselves with very creative people.
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And that's due to them not being as creative in some situations and then uh in other situations them not being able to handle the amount of creativity that's going through them.
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And so I think I would follow that same model where I would have very smart, intelligent people around me and also some people to help me stay grounded in the in that uh atmosphere, just so I never get so to the point to where I can't be told no, I can't be um redirected.
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And I I know that that would be really hard because uh you you carry a very powerful title, and so that's why it's important for us to ask this very simple question who are you without that title?
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Yeah, and and how do you look?
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How do you stand?
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How do you measure up uh in the real world?
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Because um the honest truth is a lot of people just bow down to you because you simply have a title and and lots of options for them to ask, can they have?
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Yeah.
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And I want to go a couple places with that.
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Sure.
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And this is something that I've asked leaders before.
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Two things.
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The first question is if you did not have a title or if you did not say what your passions are or what your drive is, what would people say you're about just by your actions, the way you behave, the way you present yourself?
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Right?
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I love that question because it gets you to think about how people see you just based on who you are, yeah, not what you do.
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Yeah.
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And then um, oh my gosh, what's what was the other question I was gonna say?
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Well, while you think about that, I I I just want to jump in there because I think people with big titles and a lot of power would be shocked at what most people say about them when they walk into a room in the first place.
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Thank you for that, because that's the next question is what shifts or changes in the room when you walk into it?
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Because whether we know this or not, when I enter a room, I know it changes the dynamic.
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Right?
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When you when some people walk in a room, people are like, oh my gosh, she's here.
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I can't wait to talk to her, or I can't wait to hear what she says.
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Oh, there's that, oh god, she's here.
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Uh-huh.
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That part.
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Yeah, like, oh, I didn't know she was gonna be, or no one told me.
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Um, talk to me.
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Me, like, let's pretend like we're busy so she doesn't come talk to us.
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Right, right.
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Right?
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And so you you ask yourself, like, what energy am I bringing with me?
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Yeah.
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Did I suck all the air out of the room?
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Yeah, or did I bring a breath of fresh air into the room?
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Yeah.
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Are people fearful that I'm going to watch them and single them out?
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Or are they hoping that we lock eyes and and they are noticed and and they can feel like, oh, he saw what I did, he saw me.
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Maybe he's going to acknowledge the hard work I've been doing.
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And let's be clear, I I don't carry a big title.
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And so um, if I walked into a room, of course I like to bring some good energy, but there's not a whole lot that I could really offer too many people.
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Now, that could offer a good feeling if you know you wanted to see me that day.
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But for the people that have these amazing titles that um carry some weight and some power, again, I'm I'll circle back.
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I think they would be shocked at how the majority of people felt.
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And I think it would be a mixed uh mixed review because you know, can't can I can I just be really transparent and honest?
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Sometimes there are a group of people and they are so divided in how they feel about an important person walking into a room where you have one group of people saying, I can't stand them, and another group of people saying they're the best thing that that's ever happened to me.
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And I've heard that and I've purposely been quiet because I didn't want to pick a side.
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Jen, how do you typically handle that when someone walks in a room and you hear the mixed reviews?
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I think that's preference.
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Honestly, I think that's the beauty of the world we live in.
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You're not a flavor that everyone digs.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, as for me, as long as people don't say things that are like, oh, she has no integrity or she's mean, she pretends like she elevates people and she really doesn't.
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Those are the things now.
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Right someone says, Oh, she's too loud for me, or um, she's too much energy.
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Yeah, I I can be, you know, and and I don't that I don't take that personal, it's just we're different, and that's okay, right?
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Um, but I want to go back, Corey, because absolutely um you had said you don't really have a title.
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Um, and so I want to ask you if you and I just met, and I said, um, Corey, tell me about yourself.
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So I I I see where you're going with this.
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And when I say that I don't have a very big title, I'm not saying that I'm a nobody.
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I'm not, I'm also not saying that, you know, I don't carry any weight whatsoever.
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What I'm ultimately saying is that right now in this space and time, what I do is is solely focused and it's it's honed in on specific things.
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And so that may intrigue someone or some people, yeah, but probably right now that's not gonna intrigue the masses.
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Um and I'm okay with that.
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Yeah.
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And I'm I'm willing to work and build into that to where uh if that be the platform I take, then so be it.
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Absolutely.
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I think something to think about too.
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Well, I've been in leadership for a few years now, a few decades.
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Yeah.
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Um I don't think leadership's value because it's not valuable because of my title.
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I think the title gives my leadership a place to operate.
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Does that make sense?
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So it's giving me a place to express myself maybe somewhere in a place that I couldn't.
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Because I genuinely am passionate about leadership.
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Like it makes sense for me to be there.
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Does that make sense?
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So, like me, let's say me as a coach, um, coaching isn't valuable because someone gave me a certification.
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A certification kind of strengthens my craft or lets people know, hey, she had some formal training in this.
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But I am a great coach because of my ability to see people.
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So I'm gonna buck the tie just a little bit because that what you just told me is that you have some sense of grounding and that you understand that uh this position that you hold is not uh something that's going to uh go to your head in so many ways.
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But there are so many people who get a position and it goes directly to their head.
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Sure.
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And so they immediately start with the things that they're gonna going to do, the things they're going to change, how they're going to rule, how they're going to manage, direct uh vice president, CEO, king, queen.
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They they've already decided, you know, this is how I will rule my kingdom, however small or however large.
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Yeah.
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And so um that's not leadership though, is it?
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Well, I mean, we have a a history of leadership that has opted to lead one way or another, and you can take your choice on who you want to either pick on or exalt.
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So what what's the question?
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So the question is is that when that person or those persons receive that power, and when that title is removed, where is the value and how do you add value if the if it's been removed?
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Yeah.
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That's a really great question because I would have to go back a little bit and find out what does give them a sense of value.
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So if it's title and you don't have it anymore, that's an opportunity to figure out who you are without it.
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Like you're gonna kind of be forced to do that.
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So some people might say my salary goes up if I get promoted, if my business grows, or if somebody praises me, gives me recognition, then I feel valuable.
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Right.
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And those are fleeting things, those things can literally disappear overnight, right?
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So suddenly you find yourself questioning who you're who you are.
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So I think that's when you have to really get into this space of reflection, understanding that there's something more to me than all of just that.
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And I get to find out what that is and live to my values.
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And that's why whenever I work with leaders, it's always tied to who you are, who you're becoming.
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If if it wasn't for this job, what would you be doing?
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You know, what are the things that you enjoy that aren't tied to this position, that aren't tied, you know, those are important.
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Oh my, you you really just began to crack it.
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Uh I'll say it like this.
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You've you've just begun to crack a nut.
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And the reason why I say it in that way is because, you know, as a father, as a husband, and as a man who has uh made it past a certain age, um, I've realized that no title is going to change who I am, like being a father or a husband.
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Uh no title at work or or in any other space is going to change who I am and the way I think of myself outside of being grounded in what I believe in.
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And so I think a lot of times people get mixed up in what this job is pumping into their heads or what leadership or the role has pumped into their heads.
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And so um, I'm not trying to bust bubbles, but I guess that's a pretty sharp pen that I just pulled out.
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So, you know, we got to deal with that one way or another.
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Because when I come home, no matter what title I hold at work, and I've held some titles, um, if my wife says, Hey, can you take this trash out?
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I I'm reduced back to taking the trash out.
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Whether I've told people all day to take the trash out or not.
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Yeah.
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Um, if if my kid called me when they were younger and said, Hey, I need you to pick me up at three o'clock, I couldn't say, Oh, well, I don't I don't I don't pick kids up anymore.
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I'm uh I'm a boss, I'm uh I'm in control now.
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You know what I mean?
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So um that that's kind of where I'm going with this whole if you don't have this uh role or title that you're trying to fulfill, who are you?
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Are you are you still a human being?
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Are you You still a father?
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Are you still a husband?
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Are you still respectable?
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Do people still honor you and look up to you because you've remained true to who you are?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, right.
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The difference between doing and being.
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So, like when you said um you have different titles or you've had um, you currently do have a pretty big title, if I may say so, but that's not what this is about.
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And then you come home and I ask you to take the trash out.
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I think that's the thing.
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It's who you're being.
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Whether you're the CEO of your own business or you are the author of your own books, whether you write music, right?
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The thing that you're being is you're someone who is not too big, not too good to do the little things, because it's actually those little things that define who you are.
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Yeah.
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How you do the little things is how you do the big things.
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So if if you matter to me and I call myself a person who cares about people, serves people, wants you know, people to feel inspired.
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I promote healing.
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There's health and wellness when you're around me.
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That's in all things, whether I be your manager, whether I be your friend, your wife, your mom, you know, that is that's who you're being.
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And it is reflected in how you do things.
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But what you do and the title you hold doesn't necessarily mean who you're being.
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Right.
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You know what I mean?
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Oh, yeah.
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No, that's that's crystal clear to me.
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Yeah.
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So I it's giving me great reason to even pause and just play me back today, you know, like if someone were to replay my day and give me a movie review or a book review on how I live my day, who would they say I'm being?
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Right.
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And I think that's important.
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I'm not looking for people like pleasing people when I ask for their review of me, let's say, or feedback, because I don't want to get addicted or feel like based on my accomplishments and what you see, then that now defines me.
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Right.
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Right.
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Because we get so consumed with outcomes and results and not the being.
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So I'll just keep this, you know, close to home.
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You're losing weight.
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You can get caught in that trap of I feel good because of what the way the scale says.
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That's results driven, it's outcome, but I'm losing the fact that man, I had enough care for myself to want to make a change.
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I had enough um love for my life to say, hey, today I choose to eat better.
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And it may not show on the scale today, but it's I'm being, I'm behaving a certain way that promotes now who I'm becoming.
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Make sense?
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Well, I mean, the results, the achievements, that's all part of it, but it's it's not the drive because it's the same thing.
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If you get stripped of your title, if those results stop coming in like they did in the beginning, it can really throw you off.
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Right?
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It can you can feel overcome.
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You can feel like, what am I doing all this for?
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I'm not seeing it that way.
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And I think that's why it's important.
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There's this quote, and I I don't remember it, but it's it has to do with leadership.
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When you when you're building a ship, leaders don't just tell people, oh, go go get the wood.
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It leaders teach people the yearning to want to go on the journey.
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You see what I'm saying?
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Like you're giving them more.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I I wanted to let you talk that out.
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I heard you begin to get excited about what you were saying, and and that's enjoyable for me personally because uh I know when Jen is engaged, she's gonna she's gonna go a hundred miles an hour.
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Uh, but what I will say about what you said is that you're so right when it comes to numbers.
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Um, there's numbers that we want to see, there's numbers in our bank accounts we want to see that makes us feel good.
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There's numbers on the scale that we want to see that makes us feel good.
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There's numbers in in the amount of time you've been married or the amount of years that you've successfully raised children.
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All the numbers matter when they matter, but at the end of the end of the day, what truly still remains, and that's who you are and who you were and how you showed up, whether those numbers reflected a good situation or a bad situation, whether you had anything going or nothing going, how did you show up?
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If you showed up with your integrity intact, if you showed up with your um personality intact, you didn't change because someone cut you off and and you didn't try to get someone fired because you had the ability to, you just said, you know what, maybe they're having a bad day.
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I'm gonna give a pass because someone gave me a pass.
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That's what I'm looking for.
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That's what I'm trying to achieve every day.
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Whether whether I get, you know, a whole lot of money or none, whether I I work with people that that are, you know, very successful or not, I I just want to know that I can turn from right to left and still deal with normal, regular, everyday people that feel like they put their pants on the same way I do, one leg at a time.
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Right.
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And who have to breathe the same air you the same exact air.
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You took the breath in that I let out.
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.039
Yeah, that part.
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:12.880
So I wanted to flip the question a little bit that we started with, because here here's the elevation.
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Now that we've had time to take this in, digest it a little bit, and take the pause to reflect.
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If you do have title, right?
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Whether it be leadership, a role you play, I the way a way you contribute your identity.
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The question is, is how can you use that title to express what's important to you?
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So that's a totally different relationship with success or outcomes, right?
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If I'm a leader, that title now becomes a tool.
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:51.039
Corey as an author, that title, your book writing becomes a tool.
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.960
As podcasters, these microphones right now become a tool.
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The question is, is what are we trying to put into the world through these opportunities we've been given?
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Now that's a great question.
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I'll tell you why it's so great because I had to decide before I started writing, before we started podcasting, what we wanted to put out.
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We wrote this stuff down.
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Yeah.
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We we set up, set up and and set out to do certain things, and we wrote statements and and mission letters to say this is what this is for.
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And so every time we look back, and sometimes it's years that go by before we look back at those statements and those uh things that we set up.
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And so, if we're not aligned to those statements, if we're not aligned to those things that we said, this is what we're going to do, we have to either realign or get out of whatever it is we're doing.
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.599
That's music, that's books, that's podcasting.
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That's right.
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And so that's what's kept me and kept us grounded this entire time.
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And when people say some things to me, you know, uh, on a good note or a bad note, I have to reflect on those statements and say, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.
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This is what I said I was gonna do.
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I I have I haven't yet said, Oh my gosh.
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And I love that perspective, Corey, because you're not tied to a title at that point.
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Not at all.
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Because you're tied to who you're being and the impact that you're leaving, right?
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:50.720
So episodes, hundreds of episodes ago, which is so weird to say, we introduced our statement, uh our intention in all that we do, and we named it after the acronym people, placing everyone on positive levels every day.
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It was very inclusive, it's very intentional on a daily, moment-by-moment piece, and that includes placing ourselves on positive levels every day.
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What does that look like?
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And that's what I love because uh take the elevator.
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There were times when we said, you know, is it time to go to something else?
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But we knew that we were about people here, yeah, and it still had impact.
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And even after you and I leave this earth, it will still that's that's crazy to think that, right?
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Like right now, in the future, someone could be listening, and we may not be here anymore, but it's a message that someone needs to hear right now, years and years later.
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.480
And the great that's that's intense, yeah.
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:43.599
It's incredible, and the great part about it is that it didn't change.
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:57.119
Yes, you can hear episode one, and let's go back past the episode one, where you did the the first release of the commercial of what Take the Elevator was going to be about.
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You can go back to there to right now and know they didn't change.
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:19.920
Yeah, they didn't know people were gonna be listening to them in other countries, they had no clue that at some point 600 people in one day would download their and and that's not a a whole lot, but it's a whole lot to me.
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:20.640
Sure.
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:26.480
I mean, I don't I don't personally know 600 people that could have done that.
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Yeah.
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Um, and not could have done what we've done, but could have downloaded the the podcast.
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So, you know that that's when I know I'm using the tools correctly.
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Yeah, I'm not concerned.
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I sleep well at night when when a book sells because I knew what I was trying to do when I first started writing books.
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I knew we had kids, and then it dawned on me.
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There will always be kids.
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:01.440
You you don't have to just write books for your kids, you can write books for all the kids of the world, and guess what?
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People will continue to make kids until the end of time, so you're never gonna run out of a job writing books.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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I love that.
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:24.799
One of the things I definitely wanted to put out there, um, because I I mean I don't want to take away from people who do have title, right?
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Uh your title tells people what seat you're sitting in right now, but isn't it doesn't tell the whole story of who's sitting in it.
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:39.599
So what I mean by that is yes, your title can absolutely matter.
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There are people who have worked hard for those opportunities.
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They studied right, they sacrificed, they learned, they earned their credentials, they built businesses, they developed expertise.
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In no way, shape or form are we saying to minimize that.
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What we are saying is don't confuse that container, that title, with the contents of who you are.
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Your title is the place where your values get to be expressed, but it is not the source of your value.
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You are the source of your value.
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.559
Yeah, and can I simplify that?
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Yes, nobody came here a leader.
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Always remember the seat of the person next to you.
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You don't have to go sit in it, you don't have to go live in it, but just don't forget what it's like to be sitting in that seat.
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That's not a part of leadership.
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Totally.
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:36.159
Totally.
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.480
I want to end with this thought, Corey.
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Today, one of the things that made today great is if anyone knows me when I speak, I speak to the power of second chances without going into detail because of time, we gave something else a second chance.
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And in sitting in this place, I was just reminded about gratitude and how to be generous in that gratitude.
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So if you have titles and you have these wonderful relational values, or you maybe you have a professional value, market value, whatever that is, your generosity in those spaces really show your gratitude.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.159
That's a whole nother episode.
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:20.719
Yeah.
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.159
But man, there is so much to be grateful for.
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Um and maybe that's the invitation today.
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:36.719
But either way, I have so many thoughts for reflection and activities based on today's episode.
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And I'm gonna leave some activities on my Instagram throughout the week to keep this episode alive and to keep in partnership with you.
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So um please follow at Jen the Builder underscore elevate.
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Um, and you'll see the links there to our Take the Elevator Instagram and our Gen Co one.
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But um I'm just excited because some people started responding to my um little polls, and I just wanted to see if anyone would play with me.
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And there's a few people out there posting.
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I I for me that's gratitude.
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:24.400
And Corey, we've always said we'll take the elevator, the books that we write, the the speaking engagements.
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If it speaks to one person, if one person was inspired um and it lifted them up, that was more than enough for us.
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:36.320
Yeah.
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Um because one human being is one human value that has no price on it, like that that's huge to us.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know us to take the elevator.
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We say, look up and let's elevate.
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Enjoy everyone.
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Somebody up help from their way.
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Share put some joy to the day.
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Smile can make a difference.
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Come on, everybody happens to be home.