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Yeah, brought that out because I
thought the the marketing is really interesting on
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these very yeah, yeah, black. Yeah, it's like kind of hard
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to read and you don't get two
five million friends without making a few enemies.
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It's like it doesn't even say the
social network. Yeah, this is
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the cover. Weird. No,
I will not make a single joke.
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You're not going to laugh. To
hold time now. This is very serious
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film. It's a fincher movie.
You're not supposed to allow you're not supposed
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to laugh in aventure movie. I
guess you could. This one's kind of
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funny, since a lot of his
movies are kind of funny. Yeah,
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like cold Ragon Tattoo. Oh well, I don't remember a lot of comedy
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in that one, but fight club
is like underratedly funny. No, it
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is. Yeah, you're right.
I think going girls kind of funny too.
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Yeah, just because it's been affleck, though it wasn't. Well,
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she's kind of funny too. Yeah, she did like a twisted, dark
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way like. So, anyway,
hello everyone. We're here to talk about
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the social network, written by Aaron
Sorkin, directed by David Fincher, starring
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Jesse Eisenberg as Mark Zuckerberg. Andrew
Garfield as a Wardo savereign and army hammer
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as cameron and Tyler winkled loss,
and I'm joined here with Riley. So,
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Riley, why don't you tell me
your relationship with this movie, I
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guess. Well, this is David
fincher's probably top five director for me.
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Yeah, all time on my list, and so this is my favorite fincher
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movie. I think it's the best
fincher movie by a mile. It's the
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best by a mile. Oh,
by mile. Okay, so, okay,
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for real. I love all of
his movies, but this is my
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favorite, favorite, favorite, favorite, and I think it's the best Aaron
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swork in script, which I agree. I'm not a hi on Sarki.
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People love sworkin but this is by
far the best that he's that he's done,
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and I think this movie is only
like become more and more relevant.
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Yeah, the decade kind of passed, the two thousand and ten, this
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became more of a more of a
like sacred text for for where we're at
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now. Yeah, and we're facebooks
at now too. But I think this
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movie is just great and I'm glad
that it was like somewhat rewarded at the
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Oscars, although the king speech,
yeah, we can go and jump right
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into that. I guess some notes
about those. Yeah, I find it
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interesting. It won three Oscars.
So adapted screenplay, well deserved, well
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deserved, and editing in music or
a score. Take those and I thought
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it deserved both of those for sure. Yeah, but I think one of
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the biggest mistakes of the Oscars the
last decade. Or is it? Was
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it two decades ago now? How
long ago is this movie? Ten Years?
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Not exactly ten right, it's twenty
and ten. Okay. Yeah,
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so of the last decade, one
of the biggest mistakes I think they made
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was the king's speech. HMM,
the king's speech. It one. I
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think the king speech is a fine
movie and a good movie, but it
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definitely doesn't hold the test of time
the way this one away. I still
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haven't even seen the king speech.
I'll be completely est so the king speech
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is like a great opening scene.
I like the movie a lot because I
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felt so bad for the character after
the opening scene and I was on his
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journey all the way. But I
feel like if they didn't nail that opening
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scene, that movies not very good. Like it's kind of like a strength
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of parts as opposed to the whole, the whole thing. Well, my
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favorite part of this movie is Andrew
Garfield, and you had the nominations,
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the ones that didn't win. Ide, he's not even I had just assumed
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he was nominated this whole time.
And it's just just the it's just as
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a there grafting, which also deserved, I guess, Callin firth one.
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I think callin firth deserved that one. Yeah, just, yeah, Colm
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first, really good, exactly,
an Oscar guy. Yeah, but I
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think directing and picture where the two
big big misses here. For me,
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I think David fidget. It's such
a better job than Tom Hooper. But
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Tom Very topper. Listen, Tom
Hooper is one of my public enemies as
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far as the directors go. But
was it because of the cats? It's
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because a cats, because it is, because it lame. Is it's because
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of every like La that. Well, I guess it's not his most flagrant
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violation of cinematic arts, but it's
fine. But he's no fincher. Oh
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yes, it is a shame,
but whatever. And then it lost.
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The other two was nominated for Word
Cinematography and sound mixing. Both went to
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inception, which fair enough, fair
enough, fair enough, I will take
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it. You know a lot of
competition. You know it's hard to win.
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Yeah, yeah, so I guess
you want to dive into the movie.
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We can start through. We can. It starts with introduces us to
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mark Zuckerberg and his current girlfriend,
played by Rooney Mara. Yeah, Erica
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all bright, which I think is
a fake name, is it? Yeah,
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I didn't. I've never actually looked
that up, but the deposition is
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real. I don't think the dialog
is real, but the the argument and
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stuff that happened is real. Yeah, fair enough, but what? It
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just starts with them at a bar. Mark Zuckerberg is just the worst.
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Yeah, it did. Really doesn't
paint him in any sort of good light
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this whole movie, but it starts
off very well. Okay, this will
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be fun as we go along.
Yes, I don't think it's as mean
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to him as people they really yeah, okay, I'm curious to hear why.
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I kind of like him. I
think we start off at a very
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low point, though. I think
for sure he's completely self and involved,
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like everything he's talking about is about
himself and finals club and he's having four
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different conversations at once. Poor Rooney
Mars is trying to keep up your anymore
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time. But I think the same
thing was sorkin and and the way fincher
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cuts it, or I don't know
if he edited it, but the way
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it's edited makes him seem like he's
very like he knows what he's talking about.
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The same time, yeah, it's
not a he's not a cool dude
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to hang out with, but he's
very smart. Yes, at the same
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time. I think that's why this
opening is so effective and how it in
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in it's script, but also just
the way it looks. Yeah, looks
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really good. One thing I found
out in my research doing this is they
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actually, when they were shooting the
scene, they had the extras in the
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bar like literally just talk and be
loud. So Erica and Mark Zuckerberg literally
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had a yell at each other like
overtop of people, which they never do,
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yeah, in movies, but it
works really well. I couldn't tell
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at all that the dialog wasn't super
clean. Yeah, but you mentioned the
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editor, so I'll bring them up
because I think it's frequent collaborators with him.
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HMM, it's Kirk Baxter and Angus
Wall okay, and I think they
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kind of just like peeback and jump
off scenes and then trade scenes off after
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when I'm some work. Yep,
deserve it. But one thing about this
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opening scene that I really liked is
the apparently they shot like a bunch of
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coverage and close ups and they only
use it once and it's when she says
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it's not because you're a nerd,
it's because you're an asshole or whatever.
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That one was about. That it
was very poignant to just like save the
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close up in the like an six
minute scene, a minut I don't know
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how long someone. Yeah, especially
when it's just like a dialog scene.
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Yeah, you would think you would
go back to close ups a lot,
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but it's a lot of mediums in
the wide. Yeah, I think about
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that. It's curious to because I
know fincher is a somebody who shoots a
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lot of coverage. Yeah, which
is they did ninety nine takes of this
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much. She's well, which I
saw. Jesse Eisenberg said it was his
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favorite day acting ever. Dudes weird. Yeah, Dude Weird. But you
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can see it like, I'm sure
like a lot of this where the later
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takes where they were just fed up
or yes, or anymorrow was fed up
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with it. Jesse Eisenberg, he's, I guess, completely in character the
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whole time. But that's really interesting
because, like a lot of directors,
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they shoot like I know that bonds, Juno and a couple other guys just
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shoot what they know they need.
Yeah, fincher's always one that shoots a
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lot and everything, and I think
it yeah, you know, it works
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for both kinds of style. But
yeah, I definitely think that this movie.
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I think it's because fincher's like a
big mold and clay like editor kind
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of guy. Yeah, like get
every twitch of the performance right, which
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I like to have like seventy versions
to pick from. Yeah, literally.
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Yeah. So from there, where
do we go? So we get the
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little like rudy leaves Pretty Las pissed
and then we get like a long wide
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shot of him running through Harvard and
which is actually John Hopkins, because they
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weren't allowed to shoot at Harvard.
I didn't know that. Yeah, this
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one wide shot is the one that
they shot, the only thing they shot
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at Harvard, and they're in a
building across the street with a camera and
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Jesse Hasenberg just runs through it.
So they like stole it right very smart.
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That's interesting. Is it just because
heart that's the way Harvard is?
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They didn't want Harvard and in that
light, I don't know. They just
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couldn't get the rights to shoot there
at all. Didn't didn't really hear the
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reasons why. Pretentious? Probably?
Yeah, how it's like we got to
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teach people to class and stuff.
We can have movies going on, but
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and then they go to basically,
Jesse Eisenberg is home, grabs a beer
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and starts blogging and doing the face
mash thing. Face Smash. Yes,
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yeah, we're at this point.
If you didn't hate him already after the
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opening scene, you kind of.
Yeah, definitely do hear blogging. He's
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the worst, he really is,
and they don't. I this is where
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this is like the beginning. Is
why I feel like they don't hold back
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at all. Yeah, I agree. I don't think they hold back.
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I just you just don't think as
bad as people say. I kind of
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have a feel for him by the
end of the movie. MMM, okay,
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yeah, I'm an interesting way.
I feel that we'll get there as
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we go. But this is where
we also are introduced Andrew Garfield. Right.
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Yeah, he comes in again because
mark can't figure out one part of
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the website or something. I think
it's the dres but I think it's the
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ranking system to, yeah, rank
the women after the people vote. Like
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how to categorize it and figure it
out? Yeah, some algorithm for something.
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Some it's a math thing, yes, not computer thing. So,
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oh, that's right, that's why
he needs the finance guy. Yes,
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okaymember him. I don't understand math
either. Any yeah, he writes it
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on the wall or on the window, which is just a cool shot,
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very cool shot. I don't know
how they got that. I guess the
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outside the window or something or two
fakes out, I don't know, but
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it's cool. It's very cool looking. And then this is cut with the
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kind of outrageous party at the Phoenix, yes finals club. Yes, there's
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not a lot to say about that
other than it just looks like they're kind
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of having fun. Yeah, and
then these guys are, you know,
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drinking alone in their dorm room.
And Guess is the incase? Yeah,
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it's the juxtaposition of the two.
I guess we're like marks a loser and
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everybody else is having a fun.
But there it. I really don't know,
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like it hinges on the rest of
the movie. Like, I feel
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like the scene doesn't work, if
you know, if like facebook doesn't happen
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and mark doesn't get rich Thannice,
scene is just kind of it doesn't have
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the same implications that it does in
the actual narrative. Yeah, you know.
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I mean. So, do you
think the farm animals line was funny
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or did mark go too far?
It's running theme throughout the movie. Yeah,
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yeah, I mean, I want
here. Were too far? It's
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yeah, probably, it's definitely a
sorkinism. Right, it's probably not,
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as Zuckerberg direct quote. I don't
know. Yeah, probably not, although
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it is from the blogs. Or
maybe maybe the blog might all be real.
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I don't know. I didn't do
enough research. I know a lot
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of the blood posts a real but
I don't know. You know, I
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try not to do my research and
stuff like this because I'm like, what
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if it's not? It's actually not. There's a lot of stuff that's like
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I know, which is fine,
but this movie is so good. Yeah,
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I don't think it hurts my my
feeling of the movie at all.
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Yeah, that they like twisted some
things, because I think it makes it
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a better piece of like work and
it's like fills their themes more. Yeah,
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definitely. And then so this,
so he gets in trouble with Harvard.
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Yeah, for the facemash website,
right, and every woman on campus
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hates him. Yeah, and then
so, go ahead. Well, in
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that montage, I wanted to say, right at the end of face mash,
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we cut back to runny Mara Finding
out, and I like this.
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I think it's important because I think
she makes a really big impact with like
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very little scene time. Yeah,
like in this scene she's very emotional and
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like very devastated, and I didn't
think the face mash thing was that bad
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until I got like are called bright's
like close up and the scene and I
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was like, Oh, yeah,
I see, I'm devastating. This really
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pulls it back. Yeah, the
individuality of it. I think, then
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is the first introduction to the court
after this. Yes, and that's when
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we are introduced to the winkle for
well, I think the first one is.
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Yeah, it's I think it's a
cross cut between we first learned that
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Andrew, I was going to say
Andrew Garfield, was the characters named Edward
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Ed Wardo is is suing him.
Yes, the first thing we learned.
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And then it cuts inner cuts the
same deposition, I guess, with the
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Winkle VI, the winkle vine.
So then we find out that the winkle
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by are suing him. Yeah,
I guess we could talk about how that
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whole bit works in the movie.
So it's how would you even describe it?
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It's not technically nonlinear, because the
whole story is linear. Yeah,
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the story goes through LINEAR, but
I felt like it's it may it kind
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of get lets them away with stuff
that they are cheating on too, like
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the might not be true. It's
kind of it makes the whole movie seemed
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like a flashback. Sure, yeah, that makes sense from the deaf of
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depositions. Yeah, so it's like, Oh, this is this perspective on
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these events. But I think that
what's we can talk about it later because
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I think it's more effective and in
later bits. But these cuts and like
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probably why the editing is so renowned. It's like you you follow you have
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a Sorkin line in the actual story
and then you follow it up with a
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cut to the deposition. I really
holds the gravity of it. Yeah,
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there's a lot of scenes that do
that. Yeah, and I don't know,
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I can't remember anything from this from
this early in the in the film
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that they're honestly, a lot of
the court stuff, I had a hard
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time like replaying it, like remembering
what happens in which scene. Yeah,
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but I think then we're introduced to
them, like just killing everybody on the
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crew, the winklevoss like on the
boat rowing thing with the yeah, Curtis
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like forty feet ahead of everybody else. Yes, we fisted like these guys
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are the best, which, like
we could like that that whole why to
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army hammers? Yeah, I think
it's I think it's brilliant, but it's
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better than which we should give a
big shout out to Josh Pennz, who
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plays Tyler for the majority of the
movie. So I found out the way
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they did this was every scene they
started as army as Cameron, Josh Pence
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as Tyler. Okay, and then
after they shot it they would flip and
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army hammer would have to do everything
that that Josh Pence did. So Josh
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pens made all the creative decisions for
Tyler and army would just recreate that,
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but I mean do his own facial
and voice thing, but like as far
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as body movement and all that ghost
that's very interesting. On twitter I've seen
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a lot of people, a lot
of people talk about this movie on twitter
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and there's one girl that I follow
always says that army hammer played one of
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the winklevied differently, and so that
explains it. Yeah, because it wasn't
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technically him, it was just somebody
else that he had to follow. Yeah,
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interesting, okay, cool. And
originally they were cast. He David
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Entre said it was down between those
two, like they'd both already been cast
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when his cameron on his time.
Really. Yeah, and then they were
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like trying to figure because they couldn't
find real twins, and then they were
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trying to figure out if they could
do FRA turnal twins, if that was
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too much, or if they could
do the face replace. Yeah, and
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then Josh Penn's lost out. So
he had the room lost out. Well,
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listen, I think it turned out
for the better. Yeah, because
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of the army hammers, the MEME. That fits it, you know.
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Yeah, I don't know if it
if that was the case in two thousand
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and ten, but certainly now I'm
like, oh, that's so. This
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movie was a lot of fresh faces
for me when I saw this movie.
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I saw this movie in like in
two thousand and ten. I saw this
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in theaters with my friends in high
school actually, but I'd never seen I
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think I'd seen Jesse Eisenberg before,
but I've never seen Andrew Garfield or Army
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Hammer before. Eddie Garfield was definitely
this was definitely his first big introductions to
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me from him. I thought they
were both really good. Yeah, yeah,
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I didn't have a facebook until probably
like two thousand and eighteen and I
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see this movie probably until two thousand
and fifteen, and so I don't know
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if it's one of my favorites because
of that time in between. Yeah,
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we're like Zuckerberg. History had actually
happened a little bit and this movie had
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a little more relevance. Yeah,
it was a lot bigger than it was
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what it was in two thousand and
ten. Yeah, yeah, that's that's
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funny. I don't know. Where
were we? So I think we go
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to the court next, yes,
and that tyler, the winkelvos six spell
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out their name and then they're like
tyler spelt the usual way. I don't
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know they're they're just watching their heads
move. And then Army Dude. That
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almost the same thing with the other
one. was really funny. Yeah,
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I get in tryed those two character
is. Yeah, okay. The next
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scene is there at breakfast the winklevoss
and we get introduced to let me pull
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up the guy's name, maxazine Gela. Yeah, yes, I don't know
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what claim is in the film,
but Devia Nearonda. I did not.
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So we should, we should talk
about this, because this guy's is an
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Indian guy that David fincher was like, I just couldn't find an Indian guy
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liked. We audition hundreds of them, so I cast this white guy.
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It's breathing Yaikes. So I didn't
know that. Yeah, but cool.
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That's funny because I don't think they
say his name very often in the movie.
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Yeah, might be why. Yeah, there might be trying to hide
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the fact that they whitewashed, whitewashed
it because they couldn't find one, because
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depotel wasn't out there. I guess
this tell wasn't out there yet. Ever,
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tell would have been perfect. But
yeah, so they're talking about face
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mash and they're like this is the
guy we need. Yeah, and there's
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not a lot of interesting that happens
there. EXCEP for more like character stuff.
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I think Jesse Eisenberg goes to or
Mark Zuckerberg goes to the Harvard Security
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Conference thing because after he got in
troubled and he's shut down a bunch of
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the yeah, whatever, cybersistervers,
servers. Yeah, I think the whole
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Internet crashed. He took down their
whole system. It sounded like intentionally.
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But I love the scene because it
starts with a shot of his flip flops.
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Yeah, and it's like, Oh, dude, this that dude does
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not give a fuck about authority at
all or anything like that. Yeah,
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and then it pulls up to him
and he's like, he says something about
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I apologize to all the women and
stuff and also for crashing your servers.
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I think I deserve like congratulations or
something like that. Thanks or something.
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Yeah, yeah, like you're welcome, basically. Yeah, which is just
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that, like, who knows that
that actually happened? I doubt it did.
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Feel like Mark Zarkerberg is a little
too timid for that kind of yeah,
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I think that's an Aaron Sorkin it's
so great. Yeah, that's yeah,
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Sorkin knows what he's doing and I
think that's what makes this movie so
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good. So this is that when
he's in class and he gets you Dick
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Paper, yeah, which apparently,
also, I found out in the research,
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was much worse. HMM. And
both David fincher and Aaron sorkiner very
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unhappy with the version they had because
of the MPA. It was the sea
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word originally. Oh, and they
said that had a much bigger impact.
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I bet so. They said the
you dick kind of felt like it still
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feels bad, like Oh, he's
got to get out of the room because
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he feels sad, but it doesn't. It's not as hard. Yeah,
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I agree, but you know MPA. You gotta get that. Yeah,
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listen, and they used their their
fucks. Well, we can talk about
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that later. Okay, I don't
actually remember them. Well, there's only
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one, I think. I don't
know what the MPA rules were back back
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in tonny two thousand and ten.
I know you can use it now.
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Yeah, maybe it was only one, because they only use one of the
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film, I think. But okay, then we go. This is when
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the winkle vy I was the JT
one. Yes, yeah, okay,
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yeah, I remember now. Yep, this is when the Winkel by first
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like narratively approach Mark Zuckerberg, right, yes, they're introduction like chronological order.
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Yeah, this is is where they
meet, and then just Aisenberg's like
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hero crew. I guess I'll come
with you. Yeah, which, sure,
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I mean, I guess that's how
it works at Harvard. Yeah,
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and so they invite it back to
the I don't understand the whole club.
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That's a finals club, like the
one that he's been like the things he's
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been talking about at the beginning that
he wants to get into. I've never
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understood how they exactly work. Is
it? Is it basically just a Harvard
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fraternity? So I it's a thing. It's a thing, and my extent
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of knowledge of Finals Club is what's
presented to me in this movie. Exactly.
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Okay, cool, that are on
the same page. I've just assumed
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it's like Frat. But yeah,
smart and you're rich. Maybe. Yeah,
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so they it's like harder to get
into, I guess. Yeah,
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which that's you just have to pay
and be subject to torture to get into
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a Frat. I never did that, not either. Not Weird to me,
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but well, I want to talk
about this scene because there's a couple
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little funny things I thought in the
scene. Yes, they ask him for
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a sandwich, if he wants to
sandwich, and they come back with this
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big ass. I mean these guys
are like athletes, so they're eating a
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lot of food and he just doesn't
know what to do with it and Jesse
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Eisenberger is like trying to put it
in his pocket. It doesn't fit.
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He's trying to figure out ways to
hold it. was listening to them,
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we just seems very awkward. Yeah, which is Great. Maximilla is here
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to actually yeah, and I think
that's when they meet as well, and
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he I've always taken I think I've
always assumed next, mean got like I
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don't think he needed to be in
the movie, but I think his inclusion
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is great because I think he has
some of the best lines, like I
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think the winkle fire also great.
Yeah, listen, everything is great,
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but I think it just brings like
a little little extra conflict between the three
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of them. Yeah, which is
which is because the crux of their store
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worry's basically like we got to get
cameron to decide to sue him, because
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the other two, tyler and I
forgot the guys. What's the actor's name?
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Maxi Mengela? Yeah, I don't
know who he has but um,
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but he's getting the movie, but
it's just like an extra voice. So
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it's not to tea like Army Hammer
on Army Hammer. Yeah, to the
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same people talking to each other and
every scene. Yeah, which I think
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it's smart. Yeah, and he's
a real person, so you know,
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he might certainly be there. You
know. Yeah, what is this?
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You've got bike room. Was I
don't remember what. Okay, so that's
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this is the they because they in
the finals club. They're like, you
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can't go past the bike room.
There's a bike. Okay, and Josh
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pennce decided to sit on a bike. So then Army Hammer to do it,
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and apparently army had a hammer to
do it forty times because he couldn't
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get it to like stay still the
bike the way that tyler, that Josh
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Pa Steven said. Yeah, that's
funny, I think. Yeah, that's
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and then we go back to the
court and then we go to the Caribbean
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party. Very good scene. Oh, yeah, very good scene. And
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you have a screen cat pulled up
of Edoardoh and wardo outside, very cold.
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I want to talk about the inside
first, though, okay, which
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is basically they're just there to hit
on Asian women's and it looks like a
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very not fun party. HMM,
like very what I was expect from Harvard.
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Yeah, not the cool people at
Harvard. Yeah, but what I
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like about it is Andrew Garfields a
little weird dance thing he does when just
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he hasberg comes up. Yeah,
I can't even describe it, but like
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I know exactly what you're talking yeah, I don't get it. I don't
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know why it's there, but it's
fun. That's something I was like this
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guy's it's guy's a little drunk,
because what my head is. But yeah,
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then they got outside, which is
like the crux of the scene.
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Yeah, which is where this is
where mark kind of first pitches. What
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happens here? Yeah, yeah,
he pitches in facebook. Yeah, basically,
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but it's post the the winkle vy
kind of pitching him a similar idea.
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Yeah, it's pretty similar. I
think there was a couple things you
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said that were different and now I
feel like I'm not qualified to talk about
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the movie because I don't remember what
those things were. I don't either,
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but it was it was slightly different. He's specifically mentioned not a dating service,
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which was what there's was. Yes, yeah, he wanted to want
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it to be purely social. Yeah, so it was like more open ended,
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a larger idea than the MINCHEL vosses. Yeah, but that's kind of
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where would you call the winkle Voss
has the main point of conflict in this
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movie? I think there's a lot. Yeah, same, I think.
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I think there's like two. There's
two movies going on. Yeah, the
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Edward Versus Mark Movie and there's The
winkle Voss versus mark movie. Well,
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this is where the winklevoss versus mark
movie kind of gets going. Yeah,
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right, and I think that's what
most of the first half of the movie
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is. Yeah, I think after
this, following that is a series of
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like court things and cutting back with
the talking about the emails and about how
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he was like leading them on,
yeah, but not actually doing anything for
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their company. Yeah, and I
guess we should note that like when we
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say court, there's two different courts
going. Well, not two different chords,
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but it's two different like deposition depictitions
going on to words. And the
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one we cut back to most in
the first half of the movies for the
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Winkel boss is, yes, at
Harvard. Correct, I think. I
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think they're at the same place.
Okay, they're both like happening at the
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same time. Okay, because he
references being into later on. I guess
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you're right, like I'm at too. So I think these are supposed to
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take place like basically at the same
time. Yes, I just always like
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the way they're framed. Yeah,
we can kind of talk about it right
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now, the way the the winklevoss
versus mark, when his frame, like
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the room is all would. It's
yeah, would, it's like dark,
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it's it looks like Harvard, and
I feel like that's what they were going
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for. Yeah, I see that. And then the second one is all
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las our field is brighter. I
never noticed that. Yeah, you're right,
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sleeker and I feel like that represents
like the second half of the movie
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more. It's very true. That's
just always like I just assume that's what
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they wanted us to get out of
that. Yeah, kind of connecting those
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two things, but I agree with
that. Then we go to okay,
405
00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:12.700
see very important news for it,
Ward Wardo. He gets invited to the
406
00:23:12.740 --> 00:23:15.819
Phoenix Club, which is one of
the finals clubs. Yeah, yeah,
407
00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:18.380
I think it's the one that we
see the party at the very beginning.
408
00:23:18.940 --> 00:23:22.819
Okay, so it's like that calling
back to that. Yeah, which makes
409
00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:27.890
sense. And Mark did not get
an invite. Yeah, it is important
410
00:23:27.930 --> 00:23:32.130
later on. It's cool. Marks, marks kind of Nice to him.
411
00:23:32.170 --> 00:23:33.569
Right, yeah, about it.
Yeah, he's excited for him. He's
412
00:23:33.569 --> 00:23:37.410
like he he's a good friend.
Yeah, in this moment, but I
413
00:23:37.450 --> 00:23:40.930
guess slightly downplays it a little bit. It's like a congratulations, but if
414
00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:42.799
you don't get it, you know
that's fine. You know it's lame anyway.
415
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:47.519
Yeah, that kind of thing.
And then, which is like,
416
00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.680
I guess, the first kind of
divide and their friendship. I guess like
417
00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:53.240
the First Little Block ID degree is
setting up the rest of the the second
418
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:57.349
half of the movie, I'd say. I think. After that is Jesse
419
00:23:57.430 --> 00:24:00.509
Eisenberg. So Jurassic Park Kid shows
up. Well, he's there a lot
420
00:24:00.710 --> 00:24:03.789
because he's there Jesse Eisenberg's roommate.
Yeah, he comes up to him in
421
00:24:03.829 --> 00:24:07.750
the library or something and is like
hey, is this person dating somebody?
422
00:24:08.029 --> 00:24:11.539
And then he comes up with the
relationship status. Basically, yes, Sprint
423
00:24:11.660 --> 00:24:17.460
home makes those changes. And then
now facebook is live for only Harvard.
424
00:24:17.460 --> 00:24:21.339
Yeah, for students. You have
to have a harvard to you email.
425
00:24:21.500 --> 00:24:23.569
Right. Yeah, is that how
they police? And then Edward Dough is
426
00:24:23.650 --> 00:24:26.890
there too, yes, at launch
and they get really excited. He says
427
00:24:26.930 --> 00:24:30.250
something about, like you don't know
what this will mean to my parents,
428
00:24:30.250 --> 00:24:32.650
which kind of set in like Oh, yeah, these guys are like kids.
429
00:24:32.730 --> 00:24:34.130
Yeah, like they're like nineteen years
old. Yeah, at this point
430
00:24:34.170 --> 00:24:37.650
I just all right like yeah,
that is a hard thing to remember.
431
00:24:37.650 --> 00:24:41.359
I don't think that fincher ever really
like he really well, there's a lot
432
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.400
of talk about them not ordering drinks
at places because they're under a show like
433
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.119
I can, we can drink here
because you know the Bart are, you're
434
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:49.880
sleeping with the bartender in the opening
scene. And then there's when they meet
435
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.789
Justin timber like later. Well,
spoilers, but they're like the apple teine's.
436
00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:56.470
Yeah, they're like, well,
I don't want to do it.
437
00:24:56.509 --> 00:24:57.990
What if we get carded? It'll
be embarrassing. But that's really like the
438
00:24:59.029 --> 00:25:02.589
only thing that like I never never
thought about that younger, that they are
439
00:25:02.589 --> 00:25:06.109
actually under, technically under twenty one
for most of it. Yeah, that's
440
00:25:06.150 --> 00:25:10.339
weird. That is really weird now
think about it like that, but I
441
00:25:10.380 --> 00:25:12.299
guess it makes like maybe it justifies
a lot of the movie. I don't
442
00:25:12.299 --> 00:25:15.099
know if that's what fincher trying to
do. Yeah, I think a lot
443
00:25:15.099 --> 00:25:17.059
of it is like, look at
these mistakes they made. His kids,
444
00:25:17.099 --> 00:25:19.700
like kid didn't know what they were
doing. Interesting. And then I think
445
00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:22.849
a lot of people are right in
this. Like I think I think it's
446
00:25:22.890 --> 00:25:27.450
true that facebook doesn't exist without the
winklevosses giving him that idea originally. But
447
00:25:27.609 --> 00:25:33.130
I also think that Harvard connection is
not facebook, like their idea is not
448
00:25:33.250 --> 00:25:34.920
what it became. Same. Yeah, it was like a yeah, a
449
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.720
cause and effect, but not directly
correlated. Yeah, kind of a thing.
450
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.920
But then the winklevoss is here about
the actual site that's been launched.
451
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.359
Yeah, Cuz the the fake Indian
Guy, yes, what I heard.
452
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.759
Yes, the white Indian guy finds
out on a laptop. And this is
453
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.349
one of the funny parts, Yeah, of this movie to me is where
454
00:25:52.349 --> 00:25:55.589
he like literally knocks over like four
chairs trying to run away and then runs
455
00:25:55.630 --> 00:25:57.349
with the laptop and has to go
back and the girl the laptop back.
456
00:25:57.630 --> 00:26:03.109
He's just not in the good space
right now. Well, I guess deservingly
457
00:26:03.190 --> 00:26:07.539
so. I always always wondered how, like he has any steak in the
458
00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:11.019
whole story. Yeah, it's not
really clear what each one of them did.
459
00:26:11.140 --> 00:26:15.779
But the winklevoss and him, he's
there, are the three that created
460
00:26:15.819 --> 00:26:19.170
Harvard connection. Yeah, but it's
not really you don't really have an idea
461
00:26:19.210 --> 00:26:22.490
of WHO's doing what job in creating
that. Ye, like you do with
462
00:26:22.569 --> 00:26:27.049
facebook. That's like Eduardo handling the
business, mark handling them the text.
463
00:26:27.490 --> 00:26:30.289
Yeah, and that. But in
there's you don't really know. You're just
464
00:26:30.329 --> 00:26:33.160
supposed to, I guess, know
that they're the entity. HMM, they're
465
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.160
equal partners. Supposedly. That makes
sense. But you know, two of
466
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:38.759
the people are six five, so
they're taking a lot of the attention.
467
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.559
Exide to twenty is two of him. That's funny. And then we go
468
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:48.750
to we cut back some residual court, the winkle Vye. Okay, we've
469
00:26:48.789 --> 00:26:51.309
gotten here, right. Why don't
you come to the WINKLEVOSS for money?
470
00:26:51.309 --> 00:26:53.589
Yeah, your facebook idea? Yeah, because we're loaded, you know.
471
00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:56.509
Yeah, that's an interesting point too
that we haven't mentioned. The wink of
472
00:26:56.549 --> 00:27:00.500
by art are loaded and Mark Zuckerberg
is not. Yeah, he's just there
473
00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:06.140
because he's smart, which is another
sort of divide between the two of them
474
00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:10.019
that I think fincher and Sorkin really
harp on, although it's not. Yeah,
475
00:27:10.420 --> 00:27:11.900
like obvious. Well, Wardo comes
from money to it. Whar did
476
00:27:11.940 --> 00:27:15.009
I come from? They're like bfs
at this point. Yeah, but I
477
00:27:15.089 --> 00:27:19.130
don't think like the way fincher has
a widow carry himself and how he how
478
00:27:19.170 --> 00:27:22.890
he has the winkle by carrying them. Yes, is, well, the
479
00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.970
winkelvoss different? Yeah, they come
off very entitled to me. Yes,
480
00:27:26.210 --> 00:27:30.720
yeah, privileged. Yeah, like, whereas our D Wardo's kind of still,
481
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.680
kind of Nerdy, you know.
Yeah, rich but not privileged,
482
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:34.920
which I'm sure that's the way it
was in real life. But I think
483
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.920
fincher does a good job. It
just differenting a differentiating those two, or
484
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.559
maybe it's working. I really couldn't
tell you who it is. Well,
485
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.230
it's a collective. Yeah, I
guess it's a brain trust kind of thing.
486
00:27:45.869 --> 00:27:48.109
To Brenda Song. Is that where
you're going? Who That is?
487
00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:52.789
Yes, listen, Brenda Song very
important to this movie, very important to
488
00:27:52.829 --> 00:27:56.470
me as a person. Brenda Song
was on what freaking Disney channel show a
489
00:27:56.509 --> 00:27:59.019
Sheh on. It's just funny that
she's in this movie because I grew up
490
00:27:59.019 --> 00:28:00.460
with Brenda Song. She's on the
sweet life Zagon. Cody okay, that's
491
00:28:00.460 --> 00:28:06.259
so us. We're going from that
to this is just legendary, but go
492
00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:08.299
ahead. Well, this is just
her introduction. Yeah, I think it's
493
00:28:08.339 --> 00:28:12.490
the the Bill Gates and personators up
there talking about something and then she's like
494
00:28:12.609 --> 00:28:17.049
hey, you did facebook, basically
something to along the lines of like I
495
00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:18.289
want to do you. Yeah,
to D Wardo told water I am.
496
00:28:18.369 --> 00:28:22.130
It's like much more. It's like
facebook me and then get drinks or something,
497
00:28:22.170 --> 00:28:26.930
but it's basically like yeah, think
you're hot. Yeah, it's like
498
00:28:26.009 --> 00:28:30.720
the introduction to how facebook is being
used, but it's directly from Edward's one
499
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.000
of the point of view. Yeah, which is cool. I think it's
500
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:38.119
a reactionary take on like how,
like facebook was dating goes to yeah,
501
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.950
as as we'll see with her character
later in the film. Interesting that she's
502
00:28:41.990 --> 00:28:45.990
included, but I'm very glad she's
there. Yeah, same time, like
503
00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:48.789
she's not too important, but it's
just it's just for I be wondering if
504
00:28:48.829 --> 00:28:51.710
she's real at all. I feel
like if I didn't do any research on
505
00:28:51.789 --> 00:28:53.269
this part, but I feel like
she might be made up, made up.
506
00:28:53.269 --> 00:28:56.180
Yeah, figment, just because,
I mean she's got such a strong
507
00:28:56.220 --> 00:28:59.619
presence in the burning of the fire. Well, I don't want to talk
508
00:28:59.660 --> 00:29:02.819
aboutout to look at it, I
think. Yeah, rent a song.
509
00:29:02.980 --> 00:29:04.700
Great, you don't care if she's
real or not. She's great. Yeah,
510
00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:10.529
legendary. Well, they're outside and
there's the funny joke about the next
511
00:29:10.569 --> 00:29:12.369
Bill Gates be in there. Oh, he's like drunk kids. Yea.
512
00:29:12.769 --> 00:29:15.730
Well, I don't know if they're
drunk, they're just kind of they're kind
513
00:29:15.730 --> 00:29:18.569
of star stuck, I guess,
because I get will get pression. Well,
514
00:29:18.569 --> 00:29:19.809
yeah, and also that it's Mark
Zuckerberg. Oh, like, the
515
00:29:19.890 --> 00:29:23.400
kid looks really nervous, like now
that facebook is launched, they kind of
516
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.640
have this like celebrity status a little
bit. Yeah, at least among like
517
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.160
these computer nerds here, I guess. HMM. Which I think is important
518
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.839
for like tracking their their ego as
we go. Yeah, it's a change
519
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.480
in their lives. I think it's
a big part of this movie. That,
520
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.269
like, it's basically what this is
about, right. Yeah, it's
521
00:29:40.269 --> 00:29:44.309
just the rise and fall. MM. Thing next is they go back to
522
00:29:44.349 --> 00:29:48.710
the apartment and Eduardo finds out that
they got the seas and assist letter from
523
00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:52.980
the winkelboss. So I think this
is Eduardo's first introduction to the winkelboss and
524
00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:56.259
didn't talk about it like that.
Not sure, maybe not. I remember.
525
00:29:56.339 --> 00:29:57.500
No, I think you're right because
I remember him asking mark, why
526
00:29:57.500 --> 00:30:00.539
didn't you tell me about this?
Yeah, because I think you're totally right,
527
00:30:00.579 --> 00:30:04.660
because because mark really it's like the
first, first part, where we
528
00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:07.730
see mark pushing and water to the
side, even though he's half the business.
529
00:30:07.769 --> 00:30:11.210
Are He's a hundred percent of the
business, half the cut half,
530
00:30:11.250 --> 00:30:12.970
the third of the can you call
it a company? Thirty three, he's
531
00:30:14.009 --> 00:30:15.250
thirty percent or whatever. Yeah,
but well, I don't know. Mark
532
00:30:15.289 --> 00:30:18.769
Zuckerberg in this movie keeps saying it's
not a business. Yet it right,
533
00:30:18.930 --> 00:30:22.160
and that's what I know. It's
hard for me, because I'm the business
534
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.319
person. It's hard to, yeah, gage that at all. But I
535
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.279
think the scene is interesting because Eduardo
seems very concerned, like they did steal
536
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.440
this idea clashing. That is Mark
Zuckerberg is not concerned at all, like
537
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.269
he he never seems to think that
he did anything wrong, like you can
538
00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:38.710
in these flashbacks, like he sees
like this. I think this is the
539
00:30:38.750 --> 00:30:42.630
analogy of the chair, which I
agree that the movie makes him come off
540
00:30:42.710 --> 00:30:45.829
like a Dick, but I think
it makes him come off like establishes his
541
00:30:45.910 --> 00:30:49.460
point of view really well. This
just because you built a chair doesn't mean
542
00:30:49.500 --> 00:30:53.460
you the everybody that builds a chair
owes you money. Like it's I built
543
00:30:53.460 --> 00:30:56.500
a better chair, different chair.
Yeah, like which I think it's at
544
00:30:56.539 --> 00:31:00.019
the same time, like you're it's
really smart on Sorkin and fincher's part that
545
00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:03.180
it kind of makes the audience question
like you're never on either of their sides
546
00:31:03.220 --> 00:31:07.730
a hundred percent. Yeah, because
you hate mark, but you also hate
547
00:31:07.730 --> 00:31:11.529
the winkelbosses, so you hate the
winkelbosses there. Oh Yeah, absolutely nice.
548
00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:14.450
I feel like Edward, throughout the
whole film, is the like the
549
00:31:14.569 --> 00:31:18.529
emotional tether for the audience, if
that makes sense. Like I feel like
550
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.200
if he's not there or if he's
not for trade the way he is,
551
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.400
it's just an alien movie. Yes, if you don't have anybody to a
552
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.079
relate to, this will be really
fun, because I have a had a
553
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.279
vastly I rewatched this the other day
or a couple days ago, and I
554
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.910
had a vastly different experience than I
did the first time. Okay, first,
555
00:31:33.029 --> 00:31:36.950
the first, probably few times I've
seen this movie, I was exactly
556
00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:40.029
like you're saying, Oh, like
as ward was my way in. Yeah,
557
00:31:40.349 --> 00:31:41.950
and then watching this movie again,
in a lot of ways I'm like
558
00:31:42.109 --> 00:31:45.869
he kind of deserved it and we'll
get to that when we get to those
559
00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:48.380
sure things where I think he like, yeah, it's not as black and
560
00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:52.380
white, but I think he's the
emotional as far as the like he's the
561
00:31:52.460 --> 00:31:56.900
most emotional character. Yes, Andrew
Garfield plays that like right on the surface,
562
00:31:56.140 --> 00:32:00.140
like he is very emotive in the
scenes. So, yeah, like
563
00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:04.089
when I'm supposed to feel sad for
him or feel his emotion, I do
564
00:32:04.329 --> 00:32:08.569
very well. Versus the winklevoss and
I think Mark Zuckerberger much more closed off,
565
00:32:08.809 --> 00:32:12.450
like we don't really see their emotions. Yeah, so it is.
566
00:32:12.690 --> 00:32:15.289
We see the Winkel Voss get mad, I guess Tyler Get mad, but
567
00:32:15.529 --> 00:32:19.240
we don't really see mark Zuckerberg's emotions
at all. Really. He's kind of
568
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.119
always a closed gate, yes,
which I feel like he that's how he
569
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.960
is in real life. I feel
like Jess Eisenberg really nailed that. Yeah,
570
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.880
I don't know if that's in even
in the script. If that,
571
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.349
if that's supposed to be how it
is, but I think he did nail
572
00:32:30.349 --> 00:32:34.470
it as far as that goes.
Yeah, I agree. The next scene
573
00:32:34.509 --> 00:32:37.109
is the the bathroom Blowie, I
think with I don't remember the sorry,
574
00:32:37.670 --> 00:32:40.390
I were remember you remember? Why? I don't remember. Why is it?
575
00:32:40.470 --> 00:32:43.750
Why isn't? Why is it important? Because I know it is.
576
00:32:43.910 --> 00:32:46.579
So it's important because it's it's right
after this. They just have this big
577
00:32:46.660 --> 00:32:50.740
fight. So then they're going out
to meet these one women for drinks.
578
00:32:50.779 --> 00:32:52.619
HMM. Takes Him in the in
the bathroom. They're both having a good
579
00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:55.859
time. You see Andrew Garfield,
but you hear Mark Zuckerberg laughs. Yes,
580
00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:59.970
assuming he's having fun too. Yeah, Um, and then we cut
581
00:33:00.009 --> 00:33:04.289
outside to Josh Pence, is actually
in the movie with a face. He
582
00:33:04.369 --> 00:33:07.170
has a little cameo go for him. He was just walks up to the
583
00:33:07.210 --> 00:33:12.410
bathroom and then there's girls in there
getting ready and he's like cool, yeah,
584
00:33:12.650 --> 00:33:15.680
or something. It's like one line. Yes, it's like very patronizing,
585
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.079
like here you're in the movie.
Then Guy, he's but I think
586
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.599
this seems important because it are call
bright the restaurant, yes, and that's
587
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.279
why that's where the rest room is. Okay, I do remember now,
588
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:30.470
and it's that cut and mark absolutely
embarrass him. Embarrasses himself. Yeah,
589
00:33:30.549 --> 00:33:32.910
and of her and her friends.
Yes, so he comes over like he's
590
00:33:34.029 --> 00:33:37.829
seems like he's trying to apologize,
but in classic Mark Fashion, he has
591
00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:40.819
to explain how well he's doing and
like what he's he has to talk about
592
00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:45.740
himself first before he gets to the
apology. Yeah, and obviously that doesn't
593
00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:49.779
work. That's happens. Yeah,
so she shuts him down and I don't
594
00:33:49.819 --> 00:33:52.859
think he ever even gets to apologize. But I think it's clear that's what
595
00:33:52.980 --> 00:33:54.890
he's walking up to do. Like
he feels kind of somber walking up to
596
00:33:54.930 --> 00:34:00.529
me, at least my reading,
and maybe it's viewing this recently, more
597
00:34:00.569 --> 00:34:02.809
sympathetic to mark than I used to
be. MMM. So maybe he is
598
00:34:02.809 --> 00:34:06.450
coming over there to just try and
win her back. I don't think so.
599
00:34:06.529 --> 00:34:08.570
I think you're right. I think
he does is genuinely feel bad about
600
00:34:08.570 --> 00:34:12.920
it. I don't know what he
was expecting. Yeah, I mean he
601
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.719
got what he deserved. Yeah,
exactly. I love in this at the
602
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.920
end when he walks away because obviously
he's not getting her alone to talk and
603
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.559
it's going to be it's weird in
front of the friends. He just leaves,
604
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:24.789
but she's like good luck with your
video game or whatever, like she
605
00:34:24.989 --> 00:34:30.110
was just wasn't listening to him at
all. Yeah, which, man,
606
00:34:30.590 --> 00:34:32.269
but I think this is important because
it's the at least in the course of
607
00:34:32.349 --> 00:34:37.190
the movie. It's what inspires the
we need to expand. Yeah, Harvard's
608
00:34:37.190 --> 00:34:39.539
not enough anymore. Yeah, so
they go to to other Ivy League schools.
609
00:34:39.539 --> 00:34:42.820
I forgot what they were, and
Andrew Garfield is like, and also
610
00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:45.940
Stanford, because that's a silicon valley
for him. Yeah, that's where the
611
00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:49.900
tech people are. So want to
get them to see it, which I
612
00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:53.289
think is what brings us to Oh, actually, before this is the introduction,
613
00:34:53.329 --> 00:34:55.849
to receive our owns as a speaking
character and not an extra. Yes,
614
00:34:55.929 --> 00:34:59.090
so she's been in this a lot
so far, but she's just been
615
00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.449
an extra. Never had a line. Yep, and I don't really remember
616
00:35:01.489 --> 00:35:04.889
what they talk about. I think
they just talked about face mash or something
617
00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:07.050
like, something old. Yeah,
because, I. E. comes right
618
00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:09.159
after they eric apart. Yeah,
so I'm pretty sure it's the direct like
619
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.159
the cut there is when we hear
what he feels about it later. Yeah,
620
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.039
and I like their chemistry together.
Say again another I think this is
621
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.400
like one of the few parts where
they actively try to humanize mark. Yeah,
622
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.150
which is they could have cast anybody
for the Rasheta Jones Roll. Yeah,
623
00:35:24.389 --> 00:35:28.469
she's not that important. Didn't really
take all that much, but the
624
00:35:28.590 --> 00:35:30.070
fact that they cast her. She's
a name. People know who she is.
625
00:35:30.190 --> 00:35:32.989
Yeah, I think it makes people
pay more attention to these scenes.
626
00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:36.900
I agree, and I think it's
great that they got her to be an
627
00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.139
extra for like twenty days. Yeah, like, I mean I would assume
628
00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:43.980
like almost more than three quarters of
the day she was there. She wasn't
629
00:35:44.019 --> 00:35:46.900
doing anything spar this like being an
extra real yeah, which, yeah,
630
00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:51.969
give her getting paid. Yeah,
but yeah, and then we go we
631
00:35:52.090 --> 00:35:55.489
get our Shaun Parker introduction, Parker
with a legendary Dakoda Johnson. Yeah,
632
00:35:55.530 --> 00:35:59.130
so I didn't know that was the
kode Johnson til this time watching it really
633
00:35:59.329 --> 00:36:01.570
and I always thought her performance is
kind of not that great in this movie.
634
00:36:01.730 --> 00:36:04.960
Yeah, then you learned it was
the Koude Johnson. You like?
635
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.199
Oh, okay, no, I
like a lot of her performance. There's
636
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.480
just one line reading at the end
that I don't really like when she's talking
637
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.440
about we had facebook for like a
week or so or some it's just comes
638
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.079
off very awkward. To me.
I think she's great up until that like
639
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.869
end, hm. But anyway,
maybe that's an editor's choice. Maybe I'm
640
00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:22.150
I don't like fincher's choice of clip
there, but that's fair. But the
641
00:36:22.349 --> 00:36:27.110
important party Sean Parker. Yeah,
obviously Justin timber like, which another great
642
00:36:27.150 --> 00:36:29.909
bit of casting. I don't think
people like Justin Timber Lake as an actor.
643
00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:31.429
Yeah, I'd never seen him Mac
prior to this. Like I knew
644
00:36:31.429 --> 00:36:34.980
who just Sam were. Like was
obviously yeah, and when I left the
645
00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:37.980
movie I wasn't the first time I
saw it, I wasn't as an enthralled
646
00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:39.699
with how good he was as I
would come later over the years, I
647
00:36:39.739 --> 00:36:44.300
think because I was still just stuck
behind this just in tern star really SONA.
648
00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:46.170
Yeah, but he's fantastic in this. He's very good in this movie
649
00:36:46.170 --> 00:36:50.489
and I think he plays it perfectly. You never really like him, but
650
00:36:50.610 --> 00:36:52.409
you're like, oh, he's useful. Yeah. At the same time you
651
00:36:52.489 --> 00:36:55.250
come from the Eduardo Perspective, so
do you feel the same way that?
652
00:36:55.570 --> 00:36:59.809
Oh, yeah, does hate hate? I don't like Justin timber like in
653
00:36:59.889 --> 00:37:01.840
movies. So you don't like anybody
at this movie except Everard water and everyone
654
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.960
who loves this movie. I mean
I love this, yeah, because it's
655
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.079
so great, because it alien needs
you so oh hard. But he's still
656
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.360
so humanizing for all of all of
the characters, even Seawan Parker. I
657
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.559
think it's humanizes him specifically in this
scene, because he's napster, failed,
658
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.309
you know, he's not really anything
important. Yeah, he's just I like
659
00:37:16.469 --> 00:37:20.349
this introduction to him because it shows
that he's a playboy, yeah, that
660
00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:22.949
he's confident, but also that he
pays attention to things and has a good
661
00:37:22.989 --> 00:37:25.750
memory and he knows people. Yeah, he's like, I know you,
662
00:37:27.150 --> 00:37:29.869
I learned all your information about you. Basically, yeah, I got this.
663
00:37:29.949 --> 00:37:30.980
I'm not, but it's great.
I think it's great. He didn't
664
00:37:30.980 --> 00:37:34.099
have a place to sleep that night, so he slept at the Koda Johnson's.
665
00:37:34.380 --> 00:37:37.219
Yeah, I think that's cool,
we'll take it. And then this
666
00:37:37.340 --> 00:37:39.179
is where he finds out about facebook. Yes, and you get this glint
667
00:37:39.219 --> 00:37:43.739
and his I like he just heard
bringing sexy back or something. Yeah,
668
00:37:44.690 --> 00:37:46.650
honestly, yeah, just pulling that
back around. I think fincher knows his
669
00:37:47.010 --> 00:37:51.570
actors and he knows their personas he
knows, Ben Affleck should have been the
670
00:37:51.570 --> 00:37:53.130
one and gone girl. Yeah,
and that's how it works and I think
671
00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:57.489
that's the same thing here with Justin
Timber Lake, which actually that's a good
672
00:37:57.489 --> 00:38:00.599
thing. I have some research from
fincher talking about the casting of this.
673
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.480
Apparently they auditioned pretty much everybody a
bunch of times with Justin Timberlake. Came
674
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.039
in like twenty times really, and
Dave ventcher said every time he was like
675
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.960
this is the guy and the studio
and everybody was like yeah, but no
676
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.670
one else is this famous. It's
big, and he's like okay, okay,
677
00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:16.190
all right, we'll spring more people
in, and then every time he's
678
00:38:16.230 --> 00:38:20.389
like this is the guy. That's
a lot like good on Justin Timberlake,
679
00:38:20.429 --> 00:38:22.949
I guess. I think that also
includes like video auditions or talks or meetings
680
00:38:22.989 --> 00:38:27.420
and stuff. I don't think it's
necessarily like twenty like in person. Yeah,
681
00:38:27.460 --> 00:38:30.460
in the room. Yeah, auditions, like acting auditions, but just
682
00:38:30.780 --> 00:38:35.219
like meetings and stuff. Yeah,
and then Jesse Eisenberg, they said he
683
00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:37.380
was like looking for a bunch of
people and he'd seen squid in the whale
684
00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:40.650
and something else. Forgot what he
said the other movie was, but he
685
00:38:40.769 --> 00:38:45.050
was like yeah, just he hasn'tburgs
is really like has this niceness to him.
686
00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:47.210
So he liked immediately. was like
I don't want Jesse Eisenberg really.
687
00:38:47.329 --> 00:38:50.969
Yeah, he was like I think
he's a really talented actor, but I
688
00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:52.809
don't want him. And then Jesse
Eisenberg sent in a tape and he was
689
00:38:52.889 --> 00:38:57.440
like, oh well, fuck.
Apparently they didn't make him audition a bunch
690
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.480
of times. After they saw the
tape they were like once you got the
691
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.079
part. Nice. That's interesting because
I feel like he in this and he
692
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:05.400
and squint in the whale are very
similar performances. Yeah, I don't like
693
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.480
him. In squitt in the Ohiale, I don't like him either, but
694
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.269
he's like kind of naive and fun. He's young. Yeah, which I
695
00:39:09.349 --> 00:39:14.349
guess plays into this too. Hey, sing, maybe fincher saw him.
696
00:39:14.429 --> 00:39:15.869
Is Like, Oh, like the
meanness is just kind of as a naive
697
00:39:15.909 --> 00:39:19.949
kid. Yeah, as opposed to
he wanted something a little more darker sinister.
698
00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:24.860
Yeah. Yeah, and Andrew Garfield
was originally up for the Mark Zuckerberg
699
00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:30.780
role. Bad. Yeah, and
then David fincher was like, why don't
700
00:39:30.820 --> 00:39:34.300
you read the script? And thing
about Edwardo, like well, you try
701
00:39:34.340 --> 00:39:37.730
this again. fincher knows. Yeah, what's Andrew Garfield is not Hispanic.
702
00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:42.250
We didn't talk about that one either. No, Bardo Sanchez, yeah,
703
00:39:42.449 --> 00:39:45.570
which he's had an interesting career because
he was in silence to which is about
704
00:39:45.570 --> 00:39:49.969
Portuguese. Yeah, Um, prettiest
YEP, didn't thing about that one.
705
00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:53.039
He's a little Tan. He's yeah, he has a good American accent.
706
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:57.239
I guess Dave fincher just likes to
cast white people and that's just what it
707
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.239
is. He's a white dude.
Yeah, wow, I don't know.
708
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.079
And then we go to the winkle
by great scene, Winkel by the Harvard
709
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.670
Dean. Yes, I love this. Say they lay out their case and
710
00:40:07.869 --> 00:40:10.989
the Dean basically says I don't care. Yeah, there's one line that the
711
00:40:12.070 --> 00:40:14.989
Dean says that I really love.
I think the Wikelbasso, like that doesn't
712
00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.349
make any sense to me or something. He just kind of goes. I'm
713
00:40:16.429 --> 00:40:21.070
devastated by that, just like in
this monotone like I don't care way.
714
00:40:21.190 --> 00:40:22.699
Yeah, that I was like,
Oh, well, apparently this guy's an
715
00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:27.340
agent. He's not an actor really, he's Gary Olman's agent and apparently the
716
00:40:28.099 --> 00:40:30.460
fits fincher is like really good friends
with Gary Olman, so he'd like met
717
00:40:30.500 --> 00:40:32.300
the agent before and he was like
hey, why don't you just do this?
718
00:40:34.059 --> 00:40:36.690
I like, I like when directors
do that. It's fun. Yeah,
719
00:40:36.769 --> 00:40:38.489
and I think that it really plays
well to this scene. Yeah,
720
00:40:38.489 --> 00:40:43.369
because that agent mentality apparently just playing
himself. Yeah, yeah, just,
721
00:40:43.530 --> 00:40:45.289
yeah, I don't care. He
doesn't suffer fools, and neither is the
722
00:40:45.329 --> 00:40:51.079
dean here. The Dean seems like
very upset that he's wasting his time.
723
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.079
Yeah, like, why are you
guys here? Valid is I'm sure there's
724
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:55.519
a nice joke looking back at this, though, when they're like this could
725
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:59.679
be worth millions of dollars and he's
like yeah, right, and it's like
726
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.199
I no, it's weird billy like
they were undershooting it by a lot,
727
00:41:04.429 --> 00:41:07.030
a lot. That's funny. And
then we go you have Aaron s working
728
00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.949
cameo written down. Yeah, yeah, ever seen that as that important?
729
00:41:10.429 --> 00:41:14.110
I just thought it was fun.
I also think it's fun. Well,
730
00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:16.349
it's plays in a larger context.
It's the we cut to the court room
731
00:41:16.349 --> 00:41:20.980
and it's now we're like getting deeper
into the Eduardo stuff, and I like
732
00:41:21.099 --> 00:41:23.739
what they do about the court is
they set up the fall before they show
733
00:41:23.780 --> 00:41:28.260
it. HM, so we know
Edwardo and him have a falling out and
734
00:41:28.340 --> 00:41:30.820
then, yeah, he's talking about
going to the agencies to try and get
735
00:41:30.820 --> 00:41:34.929
ad revenue. Yes, and Mark
Zuckerberg just like not paying attention at all
736
00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:37.690
or making word sounds. Hmmm.
And then Aaron swergin's in it, and
737
00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:39.170
that's I just thought that was fun. Yeah, yeah, he's not that
738
00:41:39.250 --> 00:41:40.889
good in it. I. Oh, mean he's one line. He's not
739
00:41:40.929 --> 00:41:44.489
bad at it. He's great,
he's fine. It's just like it's just
740
00:41:44.650 --> 00:41:47.599
like, oh, why Aaron?
But I think I wrote that down because
741
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.199
I thought it was funny that I
found out that apparently David fincher told Aaron
742
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.239
swork and you wanted him to do
it like forty days before they shot and
743
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.440
Aaron sworkin was on set like every
day. HMM. He's like that kind
744
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:00.550
of writer that's like on set there
all the time. Good for him.
745
00:42:00.630 --> 00:42:02.829
And apparently like every day he was
like, are you sure you don't want
746
00:42:02.829 --> 00:42:06.429
to find somebody else to do it? Like he really did not want to
747
00:42:06.469 --> 00:42:07.989
do it. That's funny. It
really isn't that big of a scene.
748
00:42:07.989 --> 00:42:10.510
No, no, it's what.
It's literally one line. It's like what
749
00:42:10.630 --> 00:42:14.590
sound is that or something, but
yeah, I saw something interesting as far
750
00:42:14.630 --> 00:42:16.460
as like the the scripts goes,
in the behind the scenes stuff and the
751
00:42:16.699 --> 00:42:20.179
opening scene. I guess we should
talked about it there, but I saw
752
00:42:20.219 --> 00:42:22.099
a clip where and Sorkin goes up
to Rooney Marn is, like you're saying
753
00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:24.739
or anybody, and you need to
be saying everybody, like he was like
754
00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:29.539
this level of like every word is
what I say. Yeah, yeah,
755
00:42:30.730 --> 00:42:34.650
which I thought was an interesting insight. Yeah, I sworking isn't my favorite
756
00:42:34.650 --> 00:42:37.250
writer. Yeah, by any means. I think he's very good at it,
757
00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:39.969
but I do think it's because he's
very anal about the way it comes
758
00:42:39.969 --> 00:42:45.000
across. Yeah, you know,
but everybody versus anybody's that a stick of
759
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:46.320
a difference. I don't know,
it's the sound. I don't know.
760
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.480
If it was anybody, they would
have won the Oscar. Yeah, yeah,
761
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.679
they there we go. This is
one of my favorite scenes. Yeah,
762
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.639
cut back to the narrative. We
this is when. Yeah, so
763
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.349
they go straight from the air and
sworkin thing to Justin timber like at the
764
00:43:00.630 --> 00:43:02.389
dinner and this is this all happens
in kyl for you, right, and
765
00:43:02.429 --> 00:43:06.750
that's why it's important, because they're
trying to expand. I don't know if
766
00:43:06.789 --> 00:43:08.909
they're in California or yeah, I
think they're in New York, as are
767
00:43:08.989 --> 00:43:13.300
not for ad revenues when I thought
they were, but it I don't know.
768
00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:15.059
It's important, though. It's definitely
not near Harvard. Yeah, they're
769
00:43:15.059 --> 00:43:19.500
not in Boston. Yes, but
this is this is their introduction to Sean
770
00:43:19.579 --> 00:43:23.579
Parker and it's Zuckerberg, Eduardo and
so don't know her name, but Burnda
771
00:43:23.659 --> 00:43:28.289
Song Character, read a song's character. Yeah, Eduardo's girlfriend. And this
772
00:43:28.369 --> 00:43:30.449
is when we were talking about the
APPLETINE's earlier. HMM. And it kind
773
00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:36.329
of introduces it's an introduction to Sean
Parker that we, as the audience,
774
00:43:36.449 --> 00:43:39.849
did not get. Yeah, it's
a very different Sean Parker that Zuckerberg and
775
00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:44.960
Eduardo are meeting for the first time, and I feel like that's why this
776
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.159
for relationship kind of happens. Yeah, it's like a performance, like we're
777
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:51.119
seeing him. We saw him kind
of just relaxed. Yeah, the first
778
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.199
scene and then this is like the
performance. This is the on. This
779
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:57.789
the yeah, the cellar. They
yeah, businessman or whatever. I don't
780
00:43:57.829 --> 00:44:00.750
know what Sean Parker does to B
I don't even I don't know I don't
781
00:44:00.750 --> 00:44:02.309
know what he does for facebook.
I don't know what he does for Heal.
782
00:44:02.349 --> 00:44:06.230
He wheeled himself in and I think
that's like the fact that they don't
783
00:44:06.230 --> 00:44:08.230
tell us what he does is kind
of important to he's here. He's not
784
00:44:08.349 --> 00:44:12.699
really important, but he's there.
He's like Mark Zuckerberg's hype man. Yeah,
785
00:44:12.820 --> 00:44:15.500
basically I like the scene a lot
because it sets up the friction right
786
00:44:15.539 --> 00:44:20.260
away between Andrew Garfield and Sean Parker, Shaan Parker, and I feel like
787
00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:22.780
it digs it even deeper with Zuckerberg. Yeah, to even in the scene.
788
00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:27.250
But yeah, and they have this
like weird little party montage where they're
789
00:44:27.409 --> 00:44:30.449
like drinking and the food and stuff
and it shows them talking but you're not
790
00:44:30.489 --> 00:44:32.250
hearing what they're saying. Yes,
is this where he says this is is
791
00:44:32.289 --> 00:44:36.250
this the Victoria secret story? No, that's later. They is later.
792
00:44:36.570 --> 00:44:39.320
Okay, at this one he's talking
at this is the first introduction of the
793
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.760
idea of you know what's cool what's
not. A million dollars isn't cool.
794
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.239
You know it's cool, billion dollars, billion, legendary line. This is
795
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.119
also where he says drop the though
right. Yeah, yeah, at the
796
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.880
very end of the great lines.
Thank you, Sorkin, for is those
797
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:58.150
live rent free in my head.
And then we go back this this a
798
00:44:58.829 --> 00:45:01.550
seemingly unimportant scene. Well, I
want to talk about the Shawn Parker thing.
799
00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:04.829
Just one okay, because one thing
I really liked about this was he
800
00:45:04.869 --> 00:45:07.219
kind of should when he first shows
up, he's kind of like friends with
801
00:45:07.340 --> 00:45:09.340
everybody. Yeah, and then it
seems like Sean Parker has realized, okay,
802
00:45:09.340 --> 00:45:14.539
facebook is Mark Zuckerberg. Yes,
and he so that. And I
803
00:45:14.579 --> 00:45:17.260
think Edwardo makes the biggest mistake he
makes in the whole thing, which is
804
00:45:17.340 --> 00:45:22.090
asking Sean Parker advertising, just asking
Sean Parker's opinion, like it's me versus
805
00:45:22.170 --> 00:45:25.329
mark here, because no matter what
Sean Parker believe, I think by this
806
00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:29.849
point of the narrative he's figured out
Mark Zuckerberger's facebook port one. Yeah,
807
00:45:29.849 --> 00:45:31.610
so I pick, like I choose
him. Yeah, and he starts it
808
00:45:31.650 --> 00:45:35.170
off like, well, neither of
you are right, but then he says
809
00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:38.559
Mark Zuckerberg's right and all his explanation
yeah. So he's like it's very suave.
810
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.199
Yeah, yeah, comes across a
very smooth, very suave, but
811
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:45.320
I think that was like the start. That's I think that was like the
812
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.150
key moment, at least in the
script, that let Sean Parker in even
813
00:45:50.190 --> 00:45:53.750
more and kind of pushed Eduardo Farther
to the side. Yeah, I agree.
814
00:45:53.869 --> 00:45:57.070
Then we go, I think,
then we go to court stuff and
815
00:45:57.110 --> 00:45:59.869
the animal cruelty stuff. It yet, because we kick off it introduces the
816
00:45:59.909 --> 00:46:01.150
Annal cruelty in the court room,
right. Yeah, then we learned what
817
00:46:01.190 --> 00:46:04.300
that means. It's kind of comes
out of nowhere, like he fed the
818
00:46:04.300 --> 00:46:07.739
chicken, chicken, yes, which
I just think this whole sequence is funny.
819
00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:08.699
I don't really know what it has
to do with anything. Yeah,
820
00:46:08.739 --> 00:46:12.340
but I wouldn't, I would I
would say yeah, whether or not to
821
00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:14.500
talk about it now. We can
talk about it later and just set it
822
00:46:14.539 --> 00:46:16.380
up now. But this is when
Ed Wardo kind of gets in trouble with
823
00:46:16.380 --> 00:46:19.730
the finals club, or he gets
kicked out, or he doesn't get accepted
824
00:46:19.809 --> 00:46:22.170
or I don't know what the words
are. I have no idea. I
825
00:46:22.289 --> 00:46:24.570
but didn't know he didn't make the
funs club. Yes, I'm only saying
826
00:46:24.610 --> 00:46:30.610
stories kind of went away of a
little further on. Yeah, but the
827
00:46:30.690 --> 00:46:34.039
whole thing is a story came out
in the Harvard newspaper he fed a chicken
828
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.320
that you had to take care of
for the Finals Club. Yeah, I'm
829
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:42.239
chicken, the animal writes whatever at
Harvard got involved and basically stadded widow after
830
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.239
that. Yeah, so this is
the first deposition scene where we we actually
831
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.550
kind of see Rishta Jones do anything, and what she does is she laughs.
832
00:46:50.070 --> 00:46:52.750
And Yeah, that's my reaction to
this situation too. No, same.
833
00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:54.989
I don't know if it's real.
I don't know if it's real life,
834
00:46:55.070 --> 00:46:59.429
but I better probably is, just
because it's a crimson. I don't
835
00:46:59.469 --> 00:47:00.940
know if he would eat, if
he's if he goes so far or and
836
00:47:00.980 --> 00:47:04.659
so I can go so far as
to make up like things that are easily
837
00:47:04.699 --> 00:47:07.940
verifiable. Yeah, that's true.
I didn't know you couldn't feed chicken a
838
00:47:07.940 --> 00:47:09.940
chicken either, so I never thought
about it. Yeah, it's a chicken.
839
00:47:12.699 --> 00:47:15.699
This is when facebook is really in
big as a hundred thousand members and
840
00:47:15.170 --> 00:47:19.250
at the same time, yeah,
they do the I don't know what they're
841
00:47:19.250 --> 00:47:22.210
doing, but it's basically just the
competition find the new Oh, yes,
842
00:47:22.250 --> 00:47:24.690
so they this is so. Yeah, school's ending. Basically, this is
843
00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:28.849
like the end of the semester now. Yeah, so for the summer they're
844
00:47:28.849 --> 00:47:30.840
going to California. HMM. Sean
Parker said in the meeting, like you
845
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.880
got to come to California point.
Yeah, and so they're looking for interns.
846
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.239
They've found a house and they're looking
for intern so this the competition to
847
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.039
figure out who the interns are going
to be. Welcome to California. Yeah,
848
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.030
great scene. Love the scene.
Yeah, really not very important.
849
00:47:46.030 --> 00:47:49.389
It's just dope. Yeah, it's
it's a lot of extras in the room.
850
00:47:49.389 --> 00:47:52.070
It looks really fun. Yeah,
and and I think the shot and
851
00:47:52.269 --> 00:47:55.949
stuff is cool. Yeah, and
I think it really kind of mirrors how
852
00:47:57.230 --> 00:48:00.739
big Zuckerberg is at this point,
all these people in the room. Yeah,
853
00:48:00.980 --> 00:48:05.980
weird like coding competition and they're they're
they're willing to like get shit faced.
854
00:48:06.139 --> 00:48:08.019
Yeah, and and like go through
kind of this embarrass it. It
855
00:48:08.099 --> 00:48:10.500
seems like a little bit. I
mean it's also like if you win,
856
00:48:10.579 --> 00:48:15.289
you're cool and you're probably up.
But yeah, but they addly just want
857
00:48:15.289 --> 00:48:16.369
to be a part of facebook.
Yeah, and then that's when we go
858
00:48:16.449 --> 00:48:19.650
to California, right, they run
a hout? Yeah, I believe so.
859
00:48:19.849 --> 00:48:22.769
I think there's more. There's more
courts stuff and there's more course stuff,
860
00:48:22.809 --> 00:48:23.769
but I don't really remember what it
is. I think this is the
861
00:48:23.849 --> 00:48:27.159
one. Oh, no, number
mine. It's later. And then,
862
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.480
yeah, we go to La and
it seems like everybody's having fun at Mark
863
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:34.440
Zuckerberg's trying to like he's not smiling. You never smiles, but he's like
864
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.880
recording people having fun, Zip lining
off the chimney into the pool. It's
865
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.590
dope. It's very college. Yeah, which I think is another call back
866
00:48:40.630 --> 00:48:44.590
to how the young they are.
Yeah, well, exactly connect those two
867
00:48:44.590 --> 00:48:46.590
points until you said it. But
yeah, and then, yeah, Nahn
868
00:48:46.670 --> 00:48:51.630
Parker comes to visit. Yes,
so the chimney explodes. Yes, and
869
00:48:51.710 --> 00:48:53.829
then someone comes to the door and
it's Sean Parker, which is Chard Parker.
870
00:48:53.829 --> 00:48:57.260
Knew they were living there. Yeah, I had been at my mind.
871
00:48:57.539 --> 00:49:00.980
had been waiting for an excuse and
then was like fuck, he ass
872
00:49:00.059 --> 00:49:02.860
to soon as this explosion happened.
Yeah, like, that's why he's hanging
873
00:49:02.900 --> 00:49:06.300
out with this girl. We never
see this girl again. He was like
874
00:49:06.460 --> 00:49:07.900
out and think about that. He's
with she lives next door. I think
875
00:49:07.940 --> 00:49:10.889
he's hanging out because he knows marks
live in there. HMM, but maybe
876
00:49:10.969 --> 00:49:15.010
not. Maybe he's he's much less
a nefarious than I'm playing him to know.
877
00:49:15.130 --> 00:49:16.329
I think he is. I just
didn't connect all the dots that you're
878
00:49:16.650 --> 00:49:19.969
connecting right now, but I think
he totally right. I think he is.
879
00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:21.489
I don't know if that's how it
was in real life, but I
880
00:49:21.489 --> 00:49:23.090
think that's totally what Sorkin and Fitch
fincher are now. Yes, as far
881
00:49:23.090 --> 00:49:25.679
as real life, because I feel
like a lot of these like personalities and
882
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.960
characters are kind of creations based,
based around real people, but not like
883
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:31.840
trying to be the real person.
Yeah, definitely, but I think after
884
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.639
this, after he like Walks,
oh, actually, well, the girls
885
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.590
there. There's a part that I
really love, which is just Eisenberg tows
886
00:49:38.630 --> 00:49:42.469
the beer smashes on the wall.
Yes, and then he's like Oh,
887
00:49:42.550 --> 00:49:45.510
sorry about that, and he throw
us another one smashes against the camera.
888
00:49:45.550 --> 00:49:49.590
Yeah, yeah, it's reading social
situation. She clearly doesn't want to be
889
00:49:49.710 --> 00:49:52.860
thrown a beer. Yeah, it's
the ego to I think that you were
890
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:54.860
talking about earlier, and it's kind
of we're peeking, we're getting to the
891
00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:58.380
peak. Yeah, at least there. It's that that's what they're trying to
892
00:49:58.380 --> 00:50:00.380
say to the audience. And then
this is the club. Yes, love
893
00:50:00.500 --> 00:50:02.619
this scene. Okay, let's talk
about it. Let's talk about it.
894
00:50:04.019 --> 00:50:07.010
This is kind of when like it. It's very comparable to the beginning scene
895
00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:09.409
with R anymore, I think,
because it's very loud. Yeah, you
896
00:50:09.409 --> 00:50:13.210
can't really tell what they're saying,
and I'm assuming, since you told me
897
00:50:13.210 --> 00:50:15.409
that they were actually yelling at each
other in the first scene, they might
898
00:50:15.489 --> 00:50:16.730
be doing it here, because you're
yelling here too, but they're not recording
899
00:50:16.769 --> 00:50:20.570
music like they did in the last
one. Okay, fair enough. Why
900
00:50:20.570 --> 00:50:22.679
they chose to not do it here
but did it there? Maybe it just
901
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.320
would be too loud. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, the music's
902
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:28.599
probably just music. Probably harder than
people talking. Probably, oh, because
903
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.760
you'd have to get the music,
would have to be at the same line
904
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.840
every time. And they're saying when
I'm doing the takes. Yeah, yeah,
905
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.510
but this is Sean Parker kind of
laying it out to Jesse Eisenberg or
906
00:50:37.550 --> 00:50:42.829
to mark Zuckerberg. Yright like Zuckerberg
was already on board at the dinner scene.
907
00:50:42.869 --> 00:50:45.429
But this is really where I think
Parker Hooks in. Yeah, you
908
00:50:45.510 --> 00:50:49.829
tells them the Victoria Secret Story.
Yes, great story of like the Guy
909
00:50:50.139 --> 00:50:53.420
Selling too soon, and although I
do think it's good advice that shown park
910
00:50:53.500 --> 00:50:59.219
is giving him. I think it's
just trying to validate him being there with
911
00:50:59.300 --> 00:51:01.579
Mark Zuckerberg at the same time.
Yeah, he's like marks cheerleader. Yeah,
912
00:51:01.780 --> 00:51:05.050
but this is a lot of one
of the things I think is the
913
00:51:05.130 --> 00:51:08.489
difference between Sean Parker and Edwardo,
MMM, is I don't think Edwardo believes
914
00:51:08.530 --> 00:51:12.809
in facebook as much as Sean Parker
does. Like what Shohn Parker really brings
915
00:51:12.929 --> 00:51:15.530
is like this idea of a billion
dollar. This is the biggest thing thing
916
00:51:15.730 --> 00:51:20.199
that's like been invented in a long
time. Yeah, I mean maybe it
917
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.519
still hits the same heights, but
I think a lot of what I get
918
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.559
out of Sean Parker's inclusion is just
the aim higher idea. Interesting, I
919
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.239
see where you're kind of veering off
of Eduardo so here. Yeah, interesting,
920
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.550
okay, and it'll get more as
we go along. Yeah, but
921
00:51:34.590 --> 00:51:37.269
I still think he's the emotional core
of the story. I don't necessarily think
922
00:51:37.269 --> 00:51:40.110
that they're super wrong. Well,
I think they're wrong and what they do
923
00:51:40.230 --> 00:51:45.070
later, but I don't necessarily think
he deserved to be the CFO. HMM.
924
00:51:45.230 --> 00:51:47.739
Yeah, I seege sword, that's
your same next scene why is it
925
00:51:47.860 --> 00:51:51.300
here? We can talk about it. We cut to a boat race.
926
00:51:51.340 --> 00:51:53.099
Yeah, yeah, this is like, apparently, I found this out later,
927
00:51:53.139 --> 00:51:57.579
this is like the super bowl for
rowing of row. Yeah, so
928
00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:00.900
this was a big deal that they
lost this by like a couple inches or
929
00:52:00.940 --> 00:52:02.889
whatever. I just thought it was
a race. I saw I didn't understand.
930
00:52:02.929 --> 00:52:05.849
I mean they have the title card
that says what it is, but
931
00:52:06.409 --> 00:52:09.650
yeah, who knows? Yeah,
exactly. They follow up there like biggest,
932
00:52:10.369 --> 00:52:14.050
like this huge defeat, like you
just lost the Super Bowl by,
933
00:52:14.409 --> 00:52:16.840
you know, a point kind of
thing. Yeah, with Oh yeah,
934
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.000
facebook's here in England too. Yeah, by the way, which is huge
935
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:22.360
because whenever the first time I watched
this, I said, why are we
936
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.079
cutting back? Like I felt like
we had already moved past the winkl bosses
937
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:30.030
and storyliney. Yeah, and then
we cut back here to a very stylized
938
00:52:30.070 --> 00:52:31.429
much differently than the rest of the
film. At least the boat raises,
939
00:52:31.510 --> 00:52:35.909
yeah, I think, which they
are in. They cheated a lot of
940
00:52:35.989 --> 00:52:38.550
this and they shot the actual race. Oh, that's fair. So a
941
00:52:38.590 --> 00:52:42.230
lot of it is the real race
and then the close ups of the winkelbosses
942
00:52:42.269 --> 00:52:45.380
are cheated for a different I'm sure
they're not going as fast. Yeah,
943
00:52:45.940 --> 00:52:49.940
and then you cut to the party
or whatever, the gathering afterward, and
944
00:52:50.019 --> 00:52:52.860
that's when the real oh and a
boom and soundtrack on this race to yes,
945
00:52:53.380 --> 00:52:55.619
I don't know what the I don't
know what the instrumental is, but
946
00:52:55.699 --> 00:52:59.489
it is incredible. Yeah, it
just jazzes you up. Yeah, I
947
00:52:59.969 --> 00:53:01.210
don't care about racing, but this
is fun. This is no, yes,
948
00:53:01.530 --> 00:53:05.170
no, I love this scene.
But yeah, you already hit it.
949
00:53:05.449 --> 00:53:07.730
FACEBOOK's in England, at Oxford,
right. Yeah, yeah, I
950
00:53:07.769 --> 00:53:10.250
think I think so. Yeah,
I think that's where they are, but
951
00:53:10.329 --> 00:53:13.880
it's all old people talking about it, which is interesting. HMM, because
952
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:15.440
at this point where people don't use
facebook now, I mean later, it's
953
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.320
all old people now. I think
at this point it's still college campus.
954
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.480
Is Only right. I think that's
why. Yeah, I think it's it's
955
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:23.599
at Oxford, and I think that's
what the point is. It kind of
956
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.030
brings us back to the winklevosses story, because I really do think that they're
957
00:53:28.030 --> 00:53:30.510
not that important in the scene prior. Yeah, club with Sean Parker,
958
00:53:30.909 --> 00:53:34.829
but here they are again. They're
back in like the frame. They have
959
00:53:34.949 --> 00:53:38.150
their whole their own scene in a
different country. Yes, she's like why?
960
00:53:38.550 --> 00:53:42.460
Well, and also what happens here? The critical moment is like,
961
00:53:42.539 --> 00:53:45.139
up until this we haven't really talked
a lot about their scenes because it was
962
00:53:45.219 --> 00:53:47.139
hard to find stills and there's not
a lot that happens other than they just
963
00:53:47.219 --> 00:53:50.500
kind of repeat the same thing,
which is we need to sue him.
964
00:53:50.500 --> 00:53:52.900
There's our cameron saying no, yeah, and this is the scene where they
965
00:53:52.900 --> 00:53:57.530
finally flip and Cameron is like yeah, Yep, let's got this bastard.
966
00:53:57.570 --> 00:54:00.050
Yeah, they say something like that. Is this the one where that I'm
967
00:54:00.050 --> 00:54:02.250
six five to twenty in there's two
of me. No, that's earlier.
968
00:54:02.329 --> 00:54:07.210
That's earlier. Yeah, for Harvard
lost. It's so man that one another
969
00:54:07.289 --> 00:54:12.559
rent free line six twenty s to
a me man sorkin new we go back
970
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.400
to California, right, okay,
yes, and Sean Parker is given these
971
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.239
girls drinks and let him smoke weed
and stuff it. Warnto shows up,
972
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.199
yes, who doesn't look like he's
been having a very good day. Well,
973
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.829
he shows up and he's said that
he's been doing some sort of internship
974
00:54:24.829 --> 00:54:28.469
in New York. Right, yeah, so was not supposed to be here
975
00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:30.110
and we thought the whole time that
he was doing this internship in New York
976
00:54:30.110 --> 00:54:32.670
and he supposed to be looking for
ad revenue, which I think Sean Parker
977
00:54:32.710 --> 00:54:36.190
makes fun of him a little bit, like you really close to getting something,
978
00:54:36.269 --> 00:54:38.139
bagels or something. Yeah, like
he's talking about how small fish is
979
00:54:38.539 --> 00:54:42.099
advertisers, that he's getting our yeah, but we find out that he was
980
00:54:42.139 --> 00:54:45.340
supposed to get picked up by mark
like hours ago and mark missed it.
981
00:54:45.539 --> 00:54:46.380
He's wired in, wouldn't he?
Yeah, is, and that where we
982
00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:50.300
are. They getting a little fight. He's like super upset the Shaun Parker
983
00:54:50.380 --> 00:54:52.889
is here. Yeah, I mean
I would be too. I don't know
984
00:54:52.929 --> 00:54:55.090
how you feel, I would be
too. I would be super upset.
985
00:54:55.170 --> 00:54:58.849
But this is kind of again where
I fall on, like why aren't you
986
00:54:58.849 --> 00:55:01.449
on in California? Man, it's
interesting. Like that's true, it's right.
987
00:55:01.530 --> 00:55:04.929
This is a big company, man, if you want to be part
988
00:55:04.929 --> 00:55:07.920
of the billion dollar empire, like
you should be doing this instead of what
989
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.880
you're doing. Yeah, but we
find out in the next scene, they
990
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:15.039
cut to them in like the Hallway
talking quietly, that Eduardo quit is internship
991
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.039
the first day and he literally has
been working for ad revenue. But Mark
992
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.039
Zuckerberg doesn't seem to notice that or
care. It's just like you're not here.
993
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.230
So it feels like you're not really
helping. Like out a side,
994
00:55:23.269 --> 00:55:25.269
out of mind. Is kind of, I feel, like the head space
995
00:55:25.309 --> 00:55:29.510
we get in for Mark Zuckerberg.
Yeah, and I think that, even
996
00:55:29.550 --> 00:55:30.949
though we are supposed to, I
like, I still think we're supposed to
997
00:55:30.949 --> 00:55:34.989
feel for Duido. I think it's
kind of thing Sorkins, having the make
998
00:55:34.989 --> 00:55:37.380
valid points back to back and forth. Yeah, that's still what's keeping you
999
00:55:37.619 --> 00:55:42.980
like invested in this relationship, in
this argument. It's kind of ongoing.
1000
00:55:43.179 --> 00:55:45.900
Where is it widow end up after
this? Is this one? He so
1001
00:55:45.139 --> 00:55:50.170
he flies back because he seems like
I think he's pissed. I would be
1002
00:55:50.570 --> 00:55:52.849
to actually, I think what we
see right after this is him go freeze
1003
00:55:52.849 --> 00:55:55.690
the accounts because he finds out Justin
Timber Lake has been setting up meetings.
1004
00:55:55.809 --> 00:56:00.690
Yeah, which is his job.
Yeah, so why is a Sean Parker
1005
00:56:00.730 --> 00:56:02.369
and not just really guess? Why? Sean Parkerd doing my job? Yeah,
1006
00:56:02.449 --> 00:56:06.559
which fair, fair point, Bro. Why is he doing your job?
1007
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.239
Yeah, so then, yeah,
he freezes the account and then goes
1008
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:14.480
back and then I think the next
scene that we see is John Parker and
1009
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.389
Mark Zuckerberg like going in to talk
to the Hedge Fund that's gonna put up
1010
00:56:19.429 --> 00:56:23.030
some money? Yeah, which is
ridiculous if you think about like Eduardo put
1011
00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:27.750
in like what Nineteenzero and got thirty
percent of the company, and I think
1012
00:56:27.750 --> 00:56:30.230
they're putting in like five hundred million
for like eight percent or something. Yeah,
1013
00:56:30.710 --> 00:56:35.099
like, yeah, that's true.
But we get the the super famous
1014
00:56:35.219 --> 00:56:38.739
like line at the end before it
cuts, which is WHO's Edwardros avereign?
1015
00:56:39.500 --> 00:56:44.780
Yeah, and then it hard cut
out to Eduardo at his apartment. Yeah,
1016
00:56:44.860 --> 00:56:45.820
and I think at this point,
you know off fuck, he's fucked.
1017
00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:49.809
Yeah, because he's not there.
Yeah, basically. Yeah, and
1018
00:56:49.889 --> 00:56:52.329
then we cut. Is this when
Brenda Song comes back? Amazing. I
1019
00:56:52.489 --> 00:56:54.050
think this is just like Renaissan,
doesn't mean anything, like I said,
1020
00:56:54.050 --> 00:56:58.690
it's just a reactionary to what facebook
has become. Edwardo doesn't really know she
1021
00:56:58.889 --> 00:57:01.280
is. She lights stuff on fire, she's gone crazy. I think it's
1022
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.639
great. She's fucking scary in this. Oh yeah, it's so good.
1023
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:07.840
I don't know what she's like in
Zach and cody. I mean I've I
1024
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.039
watched that show as a kid,
but like I don't. Those things don't
1025
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:13.920
like stick in my mind. Now
that's girl. Yeah, that's fair.
1026
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:15.989
This the opposite. Yeah, so
I think it is like a big like
1027
00:57:16.110 --> 00:57:19.710
we're gonna get her and she's not
going to be what people expect. Yeah,
1028
00:57:19.710 --> 00:57:22.789
out of a thing, I think
I saw something worth. Fincher was
1029
00:57:22.829 --> 00:57:25.349
talking about casting her and he cast
her based on like the first Taypie saw
1030
00:57:25.510 --> 00:57:29.429
that she sent in Nice and he
was like, Oh wow, she's fierce,
1031
00:57:29.630 --> 00:57:31.820
she's scary, like she'll fit.
I think this scene is really good.
1032
00:57:31.940 --> 00:57:35.340
But yeah, she's terrifying in this
scene. Yeah, at the same
1033
00:57:35.380 --> 00:57:37.980
time, he liked buys her a
scarf and whatever, and she's like have
1034
00:57:38.059 --> 00:57:40.139
you ever seen me were a scarf, and he's like this is your first,
1035
00:57:40.300 --> 00:57:45.489
like you gotta really care. Whatever. was trying to be nice,
1036
00:57:45.530 --> 00:57:49.769
I don't know. But but yeah, the whole relationship status argument, which
1037
00:57:49.769 --> 00:57:52.449
I guess is what you're saying,
is a it's about facebook. Yeah,
1038
00:57:52.530 --> 00:57:54.849
I think so, but the facebook
group he's they don't care about their relationship
1039
00:57:54.889 --> 00:57:58.880
status. Right, the Silicon Valley
slots. That's what it is. That's
1040
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.760
what it is. Yeah, great, turn a phrase. Well, he's
1041
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.239
talking on the phone with mark at
the same time, which just adds to
1042
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:07.480
the craziness of this whole scene.
Yes, which I think at this point
1043
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.519
marks like hey, come to come
back. We he tells him about the
1044
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.510
Hedge Fund deal. Yeah, like
we got five hundred million, or whatever
1045
00:58:13.590 --> 00:58:15.429
the number is. The number is, yeah, it's gonna end up being
1046
00:58:15.469 --> 00:58:19.309
like five hundred thousand, and I'm
just like going, well, crazy work,
1047
00:58:19.349 --> 00:58:22.150
but it were. Yeah, it's
a lot more money than they have.
1048
00:58:22.389 --> 00:58:25.190
Yes, so he's like come back
to California, and then he's like,
1049
00:58:27.030 --> 00:58:30.260
and I like the the line when
he says and also I'm breaking up
1050
00:58:30.260 --> 00:58:32.179
with you at the very end,
because he seems very scared, like even
1051
00:58:32.219 --> 00:58:35.659
what he says that. Yeah,
like it's he's like it looks like he's
1052
00:58:35.860 --> 00:58:38.980
pretending to be confident, like but
don't hurt me. Yeah, but then
1053
00:58:39.019 --> 00:58:42.849
that's when, this is when we're
getting to like the movie. Yeah,
1054
00:58:42.969 --> 00:58:45.210
like this is when we're actually starting
to finish up some stuff, right,
1055
00:58:45.250 --> 00:58:46.769
because he does go out to California. Yeah, we're in the third act
1056
00:58:46.809 --> 00:58:50.650
now. Yes, or the resolution, yes, court room, where he's
1057
00:58:50.650 --> 00:58:52.769
like, I didn't know my company
was going to screw me here, whatever.
1058
00:58:52.849 --> 00:58:54.530
Yeah, I think it. We
get that he gets screwed before he
1059
00:58:54.530 --> 00:58:58.719
actually get screpped. Happens? Yeah, and then I think we get the
1060
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.559
Pajama curse line with yes number,
like I think that's this scene. Yeah,
1061
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.079
which is you said this was their
use of the F rod right.
1062
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:07.920
No, no, this is not
it. This wasn't what I was thinking.
1063
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.469
Is it here? I do they
do used to? Maybe they used
1064
00:59:10.469 --> 00:59:13.510
to, because I'm pretty sure they
use it here when he's like, oh,
1065
00:59:13.630 --> 00:59:15.590
go up and talk to whatever,
and then when you get in the
1066
00:59:15.670 --> 00:59:17.909
meeting, say, Sean Parker says
fuck you. Yeah, I do remember.
1067
00:59:19.349 --> 00:59:22.150
Yep, just in pajamas. Yes, so I guess he does it.
1068
00:59:22.309 --> 00:59:23.340
I mean we don't see it.
I think this is a good example
1069
00:59:23.380 --> 00:59:28.420
of showing like how kind of a
control Sean Parker has over Mark Zuckerberg.
1070
00:59:28.460 --> 00:59:30.019
Huse do it's like an older brother. Yeah, yeah, like, yeah,
1071
00:59:30.099 --> 00:59:31.820
well, he kind of enjoys it. Like, yeah, it's like
1072
00:59:31.900 --> 00:59:35.460
they both what they have in common, I think, is like anarchy,
1073
00:59:35.619 --> 00:59:37.460
like they both fuck the power.
Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg and Shawan part,
1074
00:59:37.500 --> 00:59:40.889
which I don't think Duardo has,
like he's very much like the record towers
1075
00:59:42.050 --> 00:59:45.090
one in the courts, like yeah, this is bad. Like, yes,
1076
00:59:45.530 --> 00:59:49.130
Edwardo is very like by the system. And Yeah, both of these
1077
00:59:49.170 --> 00:59:53.719
characters are like fuck the system,
Ye know. Essentially, then the best
1078
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.000
scene. Yeah, I'll let you
talk. Okay, run US through.
1079
00:59:58.039 --> 00:60:02.719
This is this is when. So
it's facebook has a headquarters now, right.
1080
00:60:02.719 --> 00:60:07.510
Yeah, more or less, and
Eduardo has just has come in to
1081
00:60:07.630 --> 00:60:10.949
sign some papers. I don't know
what exactly the papers are. I don't
1082
00:60:10.989 --> 00:60:15.949
know what the the like they're.
There's something just saying that he I don't
1083
00:60:15.949 --> 00:60:17.989
know exactly what it is, but
if he finds out that they've diluted his
1084
00:60:19.909 --> 00:60:24.460
stock shares down till yeah, oh, there's something. I forgot to preface
1085
00:60:24.500 --> 00:60:29.420
this. Another reason leading up to
this that I'm not proudwardo. No,
1086
00:60:29.539 --> 00:60:31.780
I'm still provide Wardo, but I
but because I don't think he deserved what
1087
00:60:31.820 --> 00:60:35.019
he got. Okay, but I
don't think he deserved to be see off
1088
00:60:35.059 --> 00:60:37.730
o the company. Okay, is
they've got this warehouse set up and Markus
1089
00:60:37.730 --> 00:60:42.289
Zarckerberg's leaving school and Edwardo is going
back to school. Yes, like he's
1090
00:60:42.329 --> 00:60:45.289
leaving. He's leaving facebook to go
back to school. I think that is
1091
00:60:45.289 --> 00:60:49.329
important, which I think shows like
a either a lack of belief, for
1092
00:60:49.409 --> 00:60:52.000
it's like we were talking about earlier, like following by the rules, yell
1093
00:60:52.079 --> 00:60:54.000
system. Yeah, but I think
he kind of fucked himself there. Yeah,
1094
00:60:54.039 --> 00:60:58.719
like not only freezing the money,
but also like leaving when they got
1095
00:60:58.840 --> 00:61:01.840
this. Yeah, but he finds
out that his basically his shares are just
1096
00:61:01.880 --> 00:61:06.269
diluted, it down to nothing.
Yeah, and so he walks out of
1097
00:61:06.309 --> 00:61:08.230
the point zero zero three percent.
Yeah, he walks out of the office,
1098
00:61:08.429 --> 00:61:13.510
he finds mark, Sean Parker is
there, of course, and they
1099
00:61:13.550 --> 00:61:17.309
have basically this confrontation and boy,
like why it happened. Oh, but
1100
00:61:17.739 --> 00:61:22.059
let's talk about mark being wired in
and how he gets from Oh yeah,
1101
00:61:22.300 --> 00:61:24.659
he he just smashes the laptop right
in front of him. It's great,
1102
00:61:24.900 --> 00:61:28.139
man, this is probably one of
my favorite scenes of the of the past
1103
00:61:28.179 --> 00:61:30.219
decade. Oh yeah, he's a
Lakery and then Wardo gives it here,
1104
00:61:30.260 --> 00:61:34.050
man, or Andrew gives it a
guess I should he does. Yeah,
1105
00:61:34.650 --> 00:61:37.010
but like we talked about chicken part
earlier, and I feel like this is
1106
00:61:37.090 --> 00:61:39.969
when it comes back around. I
feel like it's actually important to this.
1107
00:61:40.369 --> 00:61:44.610
Okay, yeah, because it it
were to out like questions whether or not
1108
00:61:44.650 --> 00:61:49.000
mark planted the story about the chicken
in the Harvard newspaper. Yeah, and
1109
00:61:49.480 --> 00:61:52.119
maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but it's puts that doubt in the
1110
00:61:52.199 --> 00:61:54.920
audience mind. I think reference that
later too. Yes, I feel like
1111
00:61:54.960 --> 00:61:59.360
that's the most important bit with mark. But then he also goes against Sean
1112
00:61:59.559 --> 00:62:01.510
the same time. Oh Yeah,
Andrew goes again. Sean, yes,
1113
00:62:01.550 --> 00:62:04.550
Edward, yeah, it, water
goes again, Shawn. He kind of
1114
00:62:04.590 --> 00:62:06.869
just goes again, like he just
kind of ends it with both of them
1115
00:62:06.909 --> 00:62:08.110
right here. Yeah, I think
it's great and he kind of gets it
1116
00:62:08.110 --> 00:62:12.190
all out and then we this is
all happening. John is a huge Dick
1117
00:62:12.269 --> 00:62:15.099
in this obvious scene. Totally they
mark's kind of handling it and his like
1118
00:62:15.260 --> 00:62:17.820
mark way of like not talking.
Yeah, I kind of see like a
1119
00:62:17.860 --> 00:62:21.539
little maybe I'm reading too much into
it, because I buy this point.
1120
00:62:21.579 --> 00:62:23.219
I kind of like mark a little
bit. Okay, reading in like he
1121
00:62:23.260 --> 00:62:25.300
kind of feels bad for what he's
doing. Yeah, so, like,
1122
00:62:25.780 --> 00:62:29.579
Hey, man, like you went
back to school. You know, you
1123
00:62:29.619 --> 00:62:32.369
you froze the money. You made
a lot of bad decisions this last month.
1124
00:62:32.409 --> 00:62:35.929
Yeah, yeah, and I feel
like during the scene to the editing
1125
00:62:36.010 --> 00:62:37.849
is very quick, very fast paced, and it cuts to everybody who's actually
1126
00:62:37.889 --> 00:62:40.369
talking, like nobody cut nobody talks
off screen. Yeah, I think.
1127
00:62:42.409 --> 00:62:45.159
And it cuts to like Sean Parker
is just kind of interjecting a lot of
1128
00:62:45.239 --> 00:62:47.519
it. Yeah, it cuts to
him every time and I'm like why is
1129
00:62:47.599 --> 00:62:51.880
this happening? But he's still like
a third of the of the third of
1130
00:62:51.920 --> 00:62:53.119
the scene. I think that's really
important. The same time, what makes
1131
00:62:53.119 --> 00:62:55.199
it feel like he's butting in?
Yes, it's a kind of like,
1132
00:62:55.320 --> 00:62:59.349
which is what he's been doing the
entire movie. Yes, just his role
1133
00:62:59.469 --> 00:63:00.789
and I feel like it bothered me
the first time I watched it, but
1134
00:63:00.909 --> 00:63:05.150
now I'm like, oh, that's
perfect, that's exactly who what it is.
1135
00:63:05.269 --> 00:63:07.590
Yeah, it's what this that it's
just a the whole movie and a
1136
00:63:07.710 --> 00:63:13.860
span of two minutes or whatever.
And then he, like Sean Parker,
1137
00:63:14.420 --> 00:63:15.780
it, acts like a Dick just
to be a dick. At this one
1138
00:63:15.860 --> 00:63:20.019
point, like he tries to give
him a check for the Nineteenzero back,
1139
00:63:20.460 --> 00:63:22.099
but he's like, but I don't
cash it because it's out of your account.
1140
00:63:22.139 --> 00:63:25.380
Yeah, so it's not even the
check. It's it seems like a
1141
00:63:25.460 --> 00:63:29.530
smart like a Boston if he's got
six percent of the company he's got nineteen
1142
00:63:29.530 --> 00:63:31.730
Thos, like yeah, it's still
would have been a Duche move, but
1143
00:63:31.769 --> 00:63:36.170
a little more commendable of a Douche
move if it was actually nineteenzero from his
1144
00:63:36.210 --> 00:63:37.250
account. Yeah, like sure,
and here you go. Yeah, I
1145
00:63:37.369 --> 00:63:40.840
know you got lost, but it's
still like a fuck you in the millions
1146
00:63:40.880 --> 00:63:45.440
of for money he could have made, for sure, but it's just it
1147
00:63:45.559 --> 00:63:46.960
seems it seems a little overboard to
me. I was like, AH,
1148
00:63:47.000 --> 00:63:51.719
come on, Sean. Yeah,
while this is all happening to it's they're
1149
00:63:51.760 --> 00:63:55.429
celebrating their millionth account to isn't it? Yeah, which is a big time.
1150
00:63:55.590 --> 00:63:58.829
Now. Yes, and I don't
know if that's exactly the way it
1151
00:63:58.869 --> 00:64:02.070
happened, but it's perfect timing,
you know, for a big milestone and
1152
00:64:02.269 --> 00:64:05.230
partisans, I says. That's why
he's come and there's a business meeting and
1153
00:64:05.389 --> 00:64:09.429
then a party afterwards. Yes,
because they expect to hit a million.
1154
00:64:09.550 --> 00:64:12.179
Yeah, they're right, and obviously
the business meeting didn't go very well,
1155
00:64:12.300 --> 00:64:15.260
not very well, not very well, and that's a great shot. To
1156
00:64:15.539 --> 00:64:18.579
like it, it is it during
the scene, he's right out there.
1157
00:64:18.619 --> 00:64:21.539
They could this is a position,
this is a yeah, I think is
1158
00:64:21.579 --> 00:64:25.289
inter cut throughout. It's before this
and it's after and it's after. I
1159
00:64:25.329 --> 00:64:28.570
don't think they cut during any of
the conflict. Yes, it, but
1160
00:64:28.650 --> 00:64:30.969
it cuts to that shot that you
had earlier, a little bit of Bit
1161
00:64:30.969 --> 00:64:34.010
Bardo and facing the window, facing
away from Mark, saying how like it's
1162
00:64:34.210 --> 00:64:38.639
the the whoever's in charge, his
lawyer, I guess. Yeah, asks
1163
00:64:38.719 --> 00:64:43.239
how how much each marks diluted,
and then how much seans was diluted in
1164
00:64:43.239 --> 00:64:45.760
their both zero, and then asked. I think this is actually chronologically.
1165
00:64:45.760 --> 00:64:48.800
I think which I thought was interesting
is that it plays before. I think
1166
00:64:48.880 --> 00:64:51.239
does it? I think it plays
before. I think we know that there's
1167
00:64:51.360 --> 00:64:54.590
there's isn't diluted, but we don't
hear his numbers. You're right. In
1168
00:64:54.590 --> 00:64:58.110
then N it comes in. Yeah, and I was your best friend.
1169
00:64:58.150 --> 00:65:00.670
I don't know if that's it's the
same courtroom part. I don't know if
1170
00:65:00.710 --> 00:65:03.429
it's cut later or cut at before. Yeah, I really like I was
1171
00:65:03.469 --> 00:65:06.539
really order. I was your only
friend. Yeah, and I love that
1172
00:65:06.619 --> 00:65:10.619
line too. That's a great one. Totally. It's a very simple line,
1173
00:65:10.619 --> 00:65:12.860
but I think I just love the
way it's performed and at this part
1174
00:65:12.900 --> 00:65:15.659
I'm like God, Andrew Man,
he's so good. Yeah, he's so
1175
00:65:15.860 --> 00:65:19.300
good. And then we go cook
main party. Right. Yeah, surprisingly
1176
00:65:19.340 --> 00:65:23.730
the scene goes on a lot longer
after Edward leaves. HMM, Sean and
1177
00:65:23.769 --> 00:65:28.409
marking about I'm CEO Bitch Business Card
to yeah, but then he talks about
1178
00:65:28.409 --> 00:65:31.329
the party. And then we go
to the party, which is the cocaine
1179
00:65:31.369 --> 00:65:34.489
party, cocaine party which, of
course gets busted by the COPS. Yep,
1180
00:65:34.530 --> 00:65:41.440
John Parkins in trouble. Yes,
there and we get everything. We
1181
00:65:41.559 --> 00:65:44.639
get an example of everything that Edwardo
had said in, I think in the
1182
00:65:44.679 --> 00:65:46.880
court room, yeah, the deposition
when we first, not one our first
1183
00:65:46.880 --> 00:65:49.829
introduced Sean Parker, but when their
first introduced to Seohn Parker. Yeah,
1184
00:65:50.110 --> 00:65:54.110
like to set up that business meeting. He talks about how he's paranoid and
1185
00:65:54.869 --> 00:65:58.949
he thinks people are sending them up
and he's does drugs and is with underage
1186
00:65:58.989 --> 00:66:02.710
women. Yeah, and so all
of that plays out right here and I
1187
00:66:02.829 --> 00:66:05.860
think you kind of when he's on
the phone with well, I guess we'll
1188
00:66:05.860 --> 00:66:10.340
talk about the actual thing. It
smart dude. He rubs the cocaine away
1189
00:66:10.739 --> 00:66:14.139
and tries to rub it in his
hair. Still like doesn't get it all
1190
00:66:14.179 --> 00:66:15.579
out of his hand. Yeah,
that's I thought that was interested. It
1191
00:66:15.699 --> 00:66:17.730
is. Yeah, it's like,
Oh, this guy's try to hide this
1192
00:66:17.809 --> 00:66:23.769
Bene W. Yeah, and then
they're all like one twenty one, which
1193
00:66:24.010 --> 00:66:27.610
how the fuck did one of them
not say twenty two just to like give
1194
00:66:27.809 --> 00:66:30.769
someone all over rock it? Yeah, but then they get caught for underage
1195
00:66:30.809 --> 00:66:34.599
and he gets arrested. But I
think in this phone call that Shawn has
1196
00:66:34.679 --> 00:66:40.079
to mark Zuckerberg, we get this
kind of realization and mark that he has
1197
00:66:40.119 --> 00:66:43.920
all these things that Andrew said yeah
or that Edwardo said yeah, which it
1198
00:66:44.039 --> 00:66:46.349
kind of plays like to me is
like the death of their relationship. Put
1199
00:66:46.389 --> 00:66:49.230
it's not, because he still owns
seven percent of facebook. We find out
1200
00:66:49.269 --> 00:66:53.750
of and shown Parker's relationship. Yeah, but I think from this point on
1201
00:66:53.829 --> 00:66:57.190
they're not bfs anymore. Is what
the H he's kind of intending like it's
1202
00:66:57.230 --> 00:67:00.389
still part of facebook, but then
he's not. He'd not as powerful as
1203
00:67:00.429 --> 00:67:02.539
he was before this event. You're
right. Yeah, and then we cut
1204
00:67:02.619 --> 00:67:05.300
to the present day, right,
which kind of where we end up to
1205
00:67:05.380 --> 00:67:08.940
note that it's like he's twenty five
at this point. Yeah, paired to
1206
00:67:08.980 --> 00:67:11.300
nineteen, so this is quite a
few years later. You don't really get
1207
00:67:11.300 --> 00:67:14.579
it because people don't age that much
as teenagers to yeah, it's twenty five.
1208
00:67:14.619 --> 00:67:16.889
Yeah, but this is kind of
where like, I feel like what
1209
00:67:16.929 --> 00:67:20.730
you're talking about earlier with Rascheta Jones. Yeah, that's really where it comes
1210
00:67:20.769 --> 00:67:26.130
around, and I could see like
this is where David fincher and Aaron Sorkin
1211
00:67:26.170 --> 00:67:29.409
are kind of being optimistic about Mark
Zuckerberg. Yeah, so I think there's
1212
00:67:29.409 --> 00:67:32.199
two things going on here. From
my research, I think that Aaron Sworkin
1213
00:67:32.239 --> 00:67:35.400
doesn't like Bark Zuckerberg, okay,
and I think David fincher's a big fan
1214
00:67:35.480 --> 00:67:39.920
of Mark Zuckerberg. I'd agree.
So we get these like lines that are
1215
00:67:40.079 --> 00:67:43.599
playing opposite, but we get this
direction that's kind of like yeah, but
1216
00:67:44.079 --> 00:67:45.590
in opposition of, I think,
of his perspective. But I don't think
1217
00:67:45.590 --> 00:67:49.550
so far it's just kind of more
trying to play gray hey versus. The
1218
00:67:49.630 --> 00:67:54.429
script is is more black and white. Yeah, more, I guess,
1219
00:67:54.630 --> 00:67:57.230
negative towards him. Yes, I'd
agree, but I think that's where it
1220
00:67:57.230 --> 00:68:00.420
ends off for the most part.
And then we find out that, I
1221
00:68:00.500 --> 00:68:01.940
think, yeah, this where everybody
ends up the end. Yeah, pretty
1222
00:68:01.940 --> 00:68:06.099
much, which is I forgot what
they're talking about this just kind of summary
1223
00:68:06.099 --> 00:68:09.340
of the movie. They just have
a conversation. Oh, it's like why
1224
00:68:09.380 --> 00:68:12.380
do you hate the winklevosses? Yeah, I think that might happen earlier,
1225
00:68:12.380 --> 00:68:14.769
but either way he's like I don't
hate them, which is another thing that
1226
00:68:14.849 --> 00:68:16.369
I like, I believe, when
he says that, which is kind of
1227
00:68:16.489 --> 00:68:20.449
more why this turn this time around? I liked the way Mark Zuckerberg more.
1228
00:68:20.890 --> 00:68:24.770
Okay, that's because he's like,
I don't hate the winkelboss has I?
1229
00:68:25.050 --> 00:68:27.720
He's like, I hate the fact
that I'm wasting my time here and
1230
00:68:27.800 --> 00:68:30.319
not at facebook. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, and he doesn't.
1231
00:68:30.760 --> 00:68:33.439
I think he's wrong in the fact
that he doesn't see how they contributed
1232
00:68:33.520 --> 00:68:38.760
to facebook. MMM, but I
think he just sees it that way.
1233
00:68:38.760 --> 00:68:41.470
I don't think he's trying to be
a dick. Yes, like, I
1234
00:68:41.590 --> 00:68:44.109
agree. I think he's just just
the way it is his yeah, in
1235
00:68:44.229 --> 00:68:47.710
his brain they didn't contribute to facebook. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, this
1236
00:68:47.869 --> 00:68:51.430
movie is brilliant. Yeah, I
think because it's truly just people talking for
1237
00:68:51.510 --> 00:68:56.380
two hours, which isn't something we
get very often anymore. Yeah, and
1238
00:68:56.420 --> 00:69:00.579
especially not like something that's as popular
as this or is timely is this,
1239
00:69:00.699 --> 00:69:03.899
I guess. Do you think they'll
ever make a social network to like covering
1240
00:69:04.020 --> 00:69:08.020
the event what's happened since, because
I feel like it's I don't think that's
1241
00:69:08.020 --> 00:69:11.369
stuff is interesting. Really. Okay? Yeah, is the creation, I
1242
00:69:11.489 --> 00:69:14.810
think, like what facebook's become is
interesting, I guess. But this is
1243
00:69:14.930 --> 00:69:18.090
like a story about people. Yeah, more so than what they invented.
1244
00:69:18.130 --> 00:69:23.090
Yeah, right, what they invented
is important. Yeah, but it's I
1245
00:69:23.210 --> 00:69:26.439
think a lot of it is like
the betrayal of a best friend. Is
1246
00:69:26.680 --> 00:69:31.760
this success of this movie? It's
like the influence of celebrity, I guess,
1247
00:69:31.840 --> 00:69:35.319
like Sean Parker's yeah, truly.
Yeah, like there's I think there's
1248
00:69:35.359 --> 00:69:39.869
a lot in this movie that a
sequel probably wouldn't have, I guess.
1249
00:69:39.949 --> 00:69:43.069
Yeah, yeah, Soda. I
don't know, because they've already succeed.
1250
00:69:43.109 --> 00:69:45.909
It's already a giant business. What
is the different between like social network two
1251
00:69:45.949 --> 00:69:48.949
in Wall Street or something? That's
true. That's true. What. Okay,
1252
00:69:48.989 --> 00:69:51.350
so what do you think? So
you see, you I'd agree with
1253
00:69:51.430 --> 00:69:57.260
you that Sorkin hate Suckerberg and fincher
likes him, or maybe respects him as
1254
00:69:57.300 --> 00:70:00.060
a better word. Yeah, how
do you think that? How do you
1255
00:70:00.140 --> 00:70:01.579
think then this movie, like,
do you think so? Do you think
1256
00:70:01.579 --> 00:70:04.140
Sorkin and fincher talked about that are
do you think fincher just truly did his
1257
00:70:04.180 --> 00:70:06.649
own thing? No, I think
they talked about it. Actually found out
1258
00:70:06.970 --> 00:70:11.609
I did some research on like how
they got ready for this movie. Yeah,
1259
00:70:11.810 --> 00:70:14.729
and they had two weeks of rehearsal, which is like, but it
1260
00:70:14.810 --> 00:70:16.369
was basically just a table read in
a room and it was Aaron Sorkin,
1261
00:70:16.409 --> 00:70:19.130
David Fincher and then whoever was in
that scene, okay, and the actors
1262
00:70:19.210 --> 00:70:21.960
would read the scenes, but they
weren't rehearsing what the scenes were. David
1263
00:70:21.960 --> 00:70:25.640
fincher was like why is this and
here, why is this? And the
1264
00:70:25.760 --> 00:70:28.600
script? Yeah, yeah, it
was awesome. They literally talked about every
1265
00:70:29.720 --> 00:70:32.079
every word and every motivation. HM, he was like trying to figure out
1266
00:70:32.079 --> 00:70:34.680
every beat of the movie and he's
like, okay, so when he's saying
1267
00:70:34.710 --> 00:70:38.590
this, he's thinking this and this
is his l interest, going through the
1268
00:70:38.670 --> 00:70:42.630
subtext, and I thought that was
I like I heard Jesse Eisenberg talk about
1269
00:70:42.630 --> 00:70:44.149
and he was like yeah, we
had a lot of rehearsals, but it
1270
00:70:44.229 --> 00:70:45.710
didn't really I just would say the
lines and then sit there and wait as
1271
00:70:45.710 --> 00:70:48.630
they talked forever and then say the
lines again, like it wasn't really an
1272
00:70:48.630 --> 00:70:53.180
actress rehearsal. Yeah, it was
really just them figuring out what this movie
1273
00:70:53.260 --> 00:70:56.380
was going to be. So I
think they have a lot of discussions and
1274
00:70:56.579 --> 00:71:00.300
what I saw that of like him, be of David Fincher, being like
1275
00:71:00.460 --> 00:71:03.729
this is where I agree with with
mark here and I and this is why
1276
00:71:03.729 --> 00:71:05.810
I like this line the way it
is here, or this is why I
1277
00:71:05.850 --> 00:71:10.130
think the should slightly change or something
that makes sense. So I think they
1278
00:71:10.170 --> 00:71:13.130
had these conversations. I just think
they have slightly different views. Yeah,
1279
00:71:13.649 --> 00:71:16.090
I'd agree. I definitely I see
it. I think that another big part
1280
00:71:16.090 --> 00:71:18.600
that we completely left out was that
we talked about it in the awards.
1281
00:71:18.680 --> 00:71:21.439
But the score of this movie.
Oh, yeah, it's great. It's
1282
00:71:21.439 --> 00:71:27.000
so good and I think it really
plays into this, into the because it's
1283
00:71:27.039 --> 00:71:31.869
kind of it's not like your traditional
strings, yeah, and and and brass
1284
00:71:31.909 --> 00:71:35.430
score. It's very much it's a
lot of like piano. And look,
1285
00:71:35.510 --> 00:71:39.069
it's a lot of piano, a
lots are yeah, and it fits in
1286
00:71:39.189 --> 00:71:42.670
what's going on because it's never ever
that loud. It's never really I guess
1287
00:71:42.710 --> 00:71:45.470
it's evoking some sort of emotion during
the scene, but I feel like you
1288
00:71:45.510 --> 00:71:47.100
never really notice it. No,
it's kind of like an engine that's driving
1289
00:71:47.140 --> 00:71:51.060
in the background. Yeah, which
is just another part of why this is
1290
00:71:51.100 --> 00:71:55.500
so great. I don't know what
else. Do you have anything else?
1291
00:71:55.819 --> 00:71:58.380
Yeah, I think I have a
lot of thought. Well, I want
1292
00:71:58.380 --> 00:72:00.939
to talk about the courtroom stuff,
because it was hard to talk about it
1293
00:72:00.020 --> 00:72:02.529
as it when because I didn't know
where it went. Yeah, but there's
1294
00:72:02.529 --> 00:72:04.930
a lot of little stuff that Jesse
Eisenberg does that I really like. I
1295
00:72:05.050 --> 00:72:10.970
love that he's doodling, yes,
and it's pretty far into the movie,
1296
00:72:11.010 --> 00:72:13.569
I think, when he finally pulls
the page up and we see that he's
1297
00:72:13.609 --> 00:72:15.800
been doodling the whole time. But
he's been like drawing, yeah, a
1298
00:72:15.840 --> 00:72:20.039
lot throughout. And I like the
the attention part when he's like do I
1299
00:72:20.119 --> 00:72:24.560
have your complete attention? Oh,
and he says no, no, yeah,
1300
00:72:24.840 --> 00:72:27.640
I'm under oath, so I have
a legal obligation to say no,
1301
00:72:27.960 --> 00:72:30.430
yes, you have part of my
attention. Yeah, like the minimum out
1302
00:72:30.510 --> 00:72:35.270
required. Yeah, it's very and
it's very dickish and it's very rude,
1303
00:72:35.270 --> 00:72:39.149
but I think it also gives a
lot of insight into him and he's like
1304
00:72:39.270 --> 00:72:43.109
he's frustrated that he's here. Yeah, because he doesn't bullieve either these.
1305
00:72:43.390 --> 00:72:45.020
Well, I think more so this
one is in the Winkel boss one.
1306
00:72:45.100 --> 00:72:49.180
Yeah, I think the winklevoss ones, he he doesn't think they should be
1307
00:72:49.220 --> 00:72:53.060
here at all in this court should
exist. I think he's wrong. I
1308
00:72:53.300 --> 00:72:57.180
think they that, you know,
based be something. They should get compensated
1309
00:72:57.300 --> 00:73:00.170
someway. Yeah, just because he
let him on even less than the idea.
1310
00:73:00.369 --> 00:73:01.770
Sure, the emails he didn't like
back out right away like Ay,
1311
00:73:01.770 --> 00:73:06.449
I'm going to do my own thing. Yeah, but and then yeah,
1312
00:73:08.170 --> 00:73:11.050
right, but he's so he's very
frustrated and done with that. And then
1313
00:73:11.090 --> 00:73:15.319
the I think the tension in the
Edwardo ones which separates them is it's not
1314
00:73:15.399 --> 00:73:16.680
that he doesn't think it Wardo deserves
to be here and get money. I
1315
00:73:16.720 --> 00:73:21.119
think it's that he's just super upset
that his best friend and is now fighting
1316
00:73:21.159 --> 00:73:26.439
or whatever. Yeah, then even
I think he's slightly regrets that he fucked
1317
00:73:26.479 --> 00:73:29.149
his best friend. And Yeah,
I'd agree with you. I think I
1318
00:73:29.189 --> 00:73:30.869
read it in a lot of ways
is like because that other guy brings up
1319
00:73:30.869 --> 00:73:34.550
like hey, who's Edwardo saveragn and
it cuts. I think my idea of
1320
00:73:35.149 --> 00:73:40.550
like how this kind of played out
is like Mark Zuckerberg's like or they're like
1321
00:73:40.949 --> 00:73:43.699
hey, man, you can keep
doing this the indie grass roots way that
1322
00:73:44.659 --> 00:73:46.899
Edwardo's doing, or you can have
five hundred million dollars and yeah, we
1323
00:73:47.020 --> 00:73:49.539
can do this the big boy way. Yeah, and he's kind of like
1324
00:73:49.659 --> 00:73:53.340
put to the choice of would you
rather have your friend have, you know,
1325
00:73:53.579 --> 00:73:58.090
thirty percent of a little tiny company
or less of a bigger company?
1326
00:73:58.170 --> 00:74:00.970
Yeah, I think it's funny too
that we I don't think it's his idea.
1327
00:74:00.130 --> 00:74:02.569
No, I agree with you.
I think it's funny too that Edwardos
1328
00:74:02.649 --> 00:74:06.369
really doing like a what it Wardos
chasing for the most of the movie.
1329
00:74:06.409 --> 00:74:10.600
The add revenue is like where facebook
makes their money. Now. Oh yeah,
1330
00:74:11.760 --> 00:74:13.760
I don't know if that's the way
it in twenty twen. I really
1331
00:74:13.760 --> 00:74:15.760
don't know much about the site of
facebook. Yeah, I don't know how
1332
00:74:15.800 --> 00:74:18.920
it made its money. I mean
they have a really nice office, which
1333
00:74:18.920 --> 00:74:21.920
I guess could just be the donation
from the Hedge Fund, but it's also
1334
00:74:23.039 --> 00:74:27.149
like they might be a have gotten
ad revenue by this point. I don't
1335
00:74:27.149 --> 00:74:30.270
know, maybe, but I think
that's that's but yeah, Edwardo was right
1336
00:74:30.350 --> 00:74:33.750
as far as generating revenue. Yeah, which isn't something they ever really circle
1337
00:74:33.869 --> 00:74:39.100
back to because I maybe I don't
know if it's in two thousand and ten
1338
00:74:39.819 --> 00:74:44.779
people knew, yeah, but certainly
in twenty now and probably two thousand and
1339
00:74:44.779 --> 00:74:47.500
fifteen on. So the like that. One thing about the end is the
1340
00:74:47.539 --> 00:74:50.939
winkelvoss has got sixty five million dollars, which seems like a shit ton of
1341
00:74:51.020 --> 00:74:55.010
money. I think that has more
to do with like how valuable facebook is.
1342
00:74:55.170 --> 00:74:58.090
Yeah, to their contribution. Your
contribution was probably like a million dollar
1343
00:74:58.130 --> 00:75:00.090
contribution, you know. But yeah, facebooks were so much. Yeah,
1344
00:75:01.090 --> 00:75:06.720
and then Edwardo is a undisclosed so
I assume he's he's rolling. I feel
1345
00:75:06.760 --> 00:75:09.720
like I had looked up his net
worth and it was like, you know,
1346
00:75:09.840 --> 00:75:13.960
he's fine. Yeah, but yeah, I mean he definitely made more
1347
00:75:14.000 --> 00:75:15.880
than sixty five right. The assumption
got to be he is. He got
1348
00:75:15.920 --> 00:75:19.279
out way ahead, more than the
winkle losses. You got it. It's
1349
00:75:19.319 --> 00:75:21.310
the injury. Who Do you think
has the bigger claim? Like I the
1350
00:75:21.350 --> 00:75:26.310
winklevosses started it, but I feel
like Edwardo like helped build it up.
1351
00:75:26.310 --> 00:75:29.789
Yeah, I think he, I
mean much bigger claim. Yeah, I
1352
00:75:29.829 --> 00:75:32.149
don't know anything about law, but
I would certainly award Edwardo more. And
1353
00:75:32.229 --> 00:75:36.180
apparently he's back in the masthead or
whatever he's yeah, back as the founder
1354
00:75:36.220 --> 00:75:41.340
of Facebook, which they Sean Parker
said, we take you out, man.
1355
00:75:41.380 --> 00:75:43.779
There's another cross in the line.
Felt. I felt like, yeah,
1356
00:75:44.460 --> 00:75:47.899
his name should at least still be
there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1357
00:75:48.180 --> 00:75:50.210
so I think he gets done dirty, but I also feel like he
1358
00:75:50.289 --> 00:75:54.329
makes a lot of mistakes. I
guess is my good Warda. Yeah,
1359
00:75:54.329 --> 00:75:56.329
yeah, I agree. My opinion, I agree, at least in the
1360
00:75:56.489 --> 00:75:59.329
film. I don't know about real
life, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
1361
00:75:59.329 --> 00:76:00.770
I don't. I want to take
talk about these people as characters,
1362
00:76:00.970 --> 00:76:05.800
not because I don't the people.
Yeah, yeah, apparently mark Zuckerberg's kind
1363
00:76:05.840 --> 00:76:09.079
of different in real life. I
don't know. It looks like he smiles.
1364
00:76:09.079 --> 00:76:11.960
I've seen videos of him smiling.
I don't know. Jesse Eisenberg doesn't
1365
00:76:11.960 --> 00:76:15.399
smile. Dudes weird. Yeah,
dude is weird. I saw something where
1366
00:76:15.399 --> 00:76:17.039
Jesse Eisenberg was like, why don't
I like die my hair red? I
1367
00:76:17.079 --> 00:76:23.109
guess he's a little redheaded or something. Jesse Eisenberg, no, mark the
1368
00:76:23.189 --> 00:76:26.909
row in real life. Yeah,
he was like, why don't I die
1369
00:76:27.029 --> 00:76:29.510
my hair red and I'll look up
these court things and do this, and
1370
00:76:29.510 --> 00:76:30.869
David fincher was like, Hey,
man, just think of it as like
1371
00:76:31.470 --> 00:76:34.340
you're this kid that invented something.
Everyone's trying to take it away, and
1372
00:76:34.500 --> 00:76:38.340
just he was like just, he's
like, he was like basically like don't
1373
00:76:38.380 --> 00:76:41.539
play Mark Zuckerberg, play this character
that we've re at. Play the character
1374
00:76:41.819 --> 00:76:44.539
that's yeah, that's that's interesting.
I think that's why this, this is
1375
00:76:44.579 --> 00:76:46.140
such a great feat of directing too, because obviously what you said, like
1376
00:76:46.210 --> 00:76:49.649
the whole table read thing and figuring
out what it is beforehand, but at
1377
00:76:49.689 --> 00:76:55.090
the same time, like getting these
people to be these characters instead of actual
1378
00:76:55.649 --> 00:77:00.609
like because this is a biopic technically. Yeah, right, and those so
1379
00:77:00.729 --> 00:77:03.199
so easily, like you can even
look at it with the king speech fallen
1380
00:77:03.199 --> 00:77:06.199
until like yeah, categories of people
are just like, oh, that's boring
1381
00:77:06.399 --> 00:77:09.880
or oh, that doesn't really matter
anymore for me, like yeah, which
1382
00:77:09.960 --> 00:77:12.640
this is not. This is not. No, which is which is why
1383
00:77:12.680 --> 00:77:16.430
I think it's so interesting and why
it deserves all the recognition that it's gotten.
1384
00:77:16.470 --> 00:77:20.029
But so you think it's Sorkin's best
script? Oh, for sure.
1385
00:77:20.029 --> 00:77:24.750
Yeah, I would agree. I
think it's definitely Sorkin's best work. You
1386
00:77:24.829 --> 00:77:26.750
think this is a fincher movie or
sort and movie, if you had to
1387
00:77:26.750 --> 00:77:29.350
give it to one person? I
know it's a dumb question, but no,
1388
00:77:29.510 --> 00:77:31.060
but I understand the question because it's
I see what you're getting at.
1389
00:77:31.500 --> 00:77:34.539
Think is a SORC I think I
have more like similarities with other sorkin work
1390
00:77:34.579 --> 00:77:39.739
that I would agreeventure work. Yeah, because fincher work is often like this
1391
00:77:39.899 --> 00:77:42.300
is a dark movie, but I'd
say it's darker. Yeah, and he's
1392
00:77:42.340 --> 00:77:45.369
violent. He's also like generally more
like visually grand trying to do stuff this.
1393
00:77:45.689 --> 00:77:49.689
This movie is very simply shot,
like I know what it one or
1394
00:77:49.770 --> 00:77:54.090
got nominated for cinematography, but I
think that's like the simple lighting and they
1395
00:77:54.250 --> 00:77:58.800
the red camera and like the framing
for the story. But he doesn't do
1396
00:77:58.920 --> 00:78:01.840
anything fancy. There's not a lot
of like dollies or big weird time lapses
1397
00:78:01.920 --> 00:78:04.800
like a Zodiac or these other movies
that he's done. Yeah, I'd agree.
1398
00:78:05.000 --> 00:78:09.199
Think he's very much like trying to
shoot the sorkin movie. Yeah,
1399
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like he's coming to Sorkin as opposed
to sorkin going to fincher. Yes,
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I'm looking up SORKIN's other credits to
try to draw some similarities. But you
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mean I don't Love Sorkin? I'm
a Steve Jobs, I really like.
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That's obviously after this. Yeah,
or like there's a great script moneyball to
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money. But this falls in line
with I would say, yeah, similar
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like dialog and character. It's just
people in rooms trying to do something.
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Yeah, and their conflict. That's
like develops mean them. Yeah, it's
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the way it's shown. Yeah,
I mean he's the ultimate king of like
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Witty, woody dialog. Right,
like his story structure and stuff is good,
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but like the reason he's a household
writers because of his dialog. Yeah,
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I'd agree. But I think this
one is an example of where it's
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like it's not just the dialog.
The structure is like pinpoint per very important,
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when we cut to the court rooms, when we cut back when.
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Yeah, do you think that it
is that written in the screenplay? Do
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you know? I'd be willing about
it. Is I don't know for sure,
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interesting because a lot of it seems
like almost exact like they're finishing.
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There's some early on where it's like
they're almost finishing sentences. Yeah, when
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they cut and it's like that would
have been weird to have been, you're
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right, not together in the script
and you're right. I always think I
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gave a gave that credit to fincher
and the editors. I'm sure it's probably
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more like fine tuned because of that, but I think, yeah, probably
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the idea of cutting. There's there's
no way that. It was originally like
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all play chronologically and the court stuff
was at the end. Like that doesn't
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work. That doesn't work. So
the inner cuttings there. I just don't
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know how much inside of each scene
it is like the minutia of it is
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probably fincher and the two editors.
Yeah, interesting, but yeah, this
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is Jesse Eisenberg's best performance. I'm
going to say this. For me,
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definitely not American ultra or something that. So yeah, I'd have to say
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this. I that's go in the
whale adventure land. I've never seen a
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venture land, so I can't speak
on mention land. Trying to think of
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other Zombie Land, Zombie lands,
Big Land Fan. Yeah, it's probably
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my favorite of everybody in it.
That's what I was going to say.
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I think it's Jesse Andrew Army,
Andrew Garfield, I have some love for
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in some other things. I do
too. I think he's a great actor,
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but I just I feel maybe it's
because it's that's my introduction to him
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was this. Yeah, it's easy
do this arounder the silver lake, but
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they're very different. Oh, yeah, every I like this movie a lot
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more than I like under the silver
like, though, a lot. But
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yeah, I'd give it this.
I'll give him. What about Max,
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Max Miguela? Actually, I don't
started. Yes, tell starting. He's
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heat. Last year he directed this
movie called Teen Spirit. Oh, he's
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a director. Well, now he
is, I guess he. Wait,
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is that the L fanning? He's
dating Olfan? Okay, that's not at
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00:81:00.319 --> 00:81:01.920
all who I thought it was.
Oh, I thought it was the Elizabeth
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Moss movie. What's that one?
I don't even. Anyway, it doesn't
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matter. Yeah, I know why. I don't know why I thought she
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would be in a teen movie.
Stumble me, but he I'm trying to
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freaking find is. It would have
been fast if I just searched him.
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He's not. He's not too terribly
important in the overall okay, cool,
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like the social network is his top
credit. So I think this is a
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great performance for roadymorrow, but her
best would be fincher's next movie. Right.
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Is it fincher's next movie that they
work together again? I think so.
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I'm trying to think Sarah. Yeah, I was thinking about her,
1452
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but I feel like girl the Dragon
Tattoo is probably yeah, certainly more to
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do. It is. Yes,
the next year, very quick turn around.
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M finching has a weird career.
I think this is Oh, there's
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a kid. The kid from Drassic
Park is in this movie too. I
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don't know if we talked about him, but I really like him in this
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movie. He's the roommate at the
beginning. Is that why you have seen
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drastic DASSIC Park Guy? Yeah,
I didn't know what that man was like.
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What is that little kid from Drassic
Park? Oh, and he's really
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funny at this, but it doesn't
have anything to do. I just he's
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in the background like spinning chairs,
and yet hang on the bed awkwardly,
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like I just noticed rewatching this,
like this guy is chewing up as much
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scenery out of focus as I've ever
seen anyone out of focused. You have
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00:82:17.500 --> 00:82:21.340
seen hers like he's not even he's
definitely not in focus, but that's money.
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Got Have to look to see him, but he's always doing something weird
1466
00:82:24.939 --> 00:82:28.539
in the background. That is funny
because like, yeah, he's there,
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so so why not? That's funny. All right. Any closing thoughts?
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Big Old with by the academy.
Yeah, they screwed that one up.
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Well, I think they got the
wins right, but this definitely should have
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been picture and directing for sure.
I don't know, Fitcher doesn't have one
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00:82:45.239 --> 00:82:48.880
right? No, I don't think
so. Yeah, we'll see. Maybe
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this here. Literally, why would
you got this year? Mank from Netflix?
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That's the most wells movie. Yeah, yeah, citizen Kane. We'll
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see. I'm assuming it'll be a
big deal. Yeah, who knows?
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All right, sweet sick, we'll
call it a day.
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Yeah, brought that out because I
thought the the marketing is really interesting on
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these very yeah, yeah, black. Yeah, it's like kind of hard
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to read and you don't get two
five million friends without making a few enemies.
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It's like it doesn't even say the
social network. Yeah, this is
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the cover. Weird. No,
I will not make a single joke.
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You're not going to laugh. To
hold time now. This is very serious
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film. It's a fincher movie.
You're not supposed to allow you're not supposed
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to laugh in aventure movie. I
guess you could. This one's kind of
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funny, since a lot of his
movies are kind of funny. Yeah,
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like cold Ragon Tattoo. Oh well, I don't remember a lot of comedy
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in that one, but fight club
is like underratedly funny. No, it
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is. Yeah, you're right.
I think going girls kind of funny too.
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Yeah, just because it's been affleck, though it wasn't. Well,
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she's kind of funny too. Yeah, she did like a twisted, dark
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way like. So, anyway,
hello everyone. We're here to talk about
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the social network, written by Aaron
Sorkin, directed by David Fincher, starring
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Jesse Eisenberg as Mark Zuckerberg. Andrew
Garfield as a Wardo savereign and army hammer
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as cameron and Tyler winkled loss,
and I'm joined here with Riley. So,
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Riley, why don't you tell me
your relationship with this movie, I
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guess. Well, this is David
fincher's probably top five director for me.
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Yeah, all time on my list, and so this is my favorite fincher
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movie. I think it's the best
fincher movie by a mile. It's the
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best by a mile. Oh,
by mile. Okay, so, okay,
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for real. I love all of
his movies, but this is my
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favorite, favorite, favorite, favorite, and I think it's the best Aaron
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swork in script, which I agree. I'm not a hi on Sarki.
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People love sworkin but this is by
far the best that he's that he's done,
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and I think this movie is only
like become more and more relevant.
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Yeah, the decade kind of passed, the two thousand and ten, this
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became more of a more of a
like sacred text for for where we're at
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now. Yeah, and we're facebooks
at now too. But I think this
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movie is just great and I'm glad
that it was like somewhat rewarded at the
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Oscars, although the king speech,
yeah, we can go and jump right
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into that. I guess some notes
about those. Yeah, I find it
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interesting. It won three Oscars.
So adapted screenplay, well deserved, well
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deserved, and editing in music or
a score. Take those and I thought
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it deserved both of those for sure. Yeah, but I think one of
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the biggest mistakes of the Oscars the
last decade. Or is it? Was
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it two decades ago now? How
long ago is this movie? Ten Years?
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Not exactly ten right, it's twenty
and ten. Okay. Yeah,
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so of the last decade, one
of the biggest mistakes I think they made
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was the king's speech. HMM,
the king's speech. It one. I
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think the king speech is a fine
movie and a good movie, but it
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definitely doesn't hold the test of time
the way this one away. I still
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haven't even seen the king speech.
I'll be completely est so the king speech
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is like a great opening scene.
I like the movie a lot because I
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felt so bad for the character after
the opening scene and I was on his
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journey all the way. But I
feel like if they didn't nail that opening
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scene, that movies not very good. Like it's kind of like a strength
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of parts as opposed to the whole, the whole thing. Well, my
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favorite part of this movie is Andrew
Garfield, and you had the nominations,
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the ones that didn't win. Ide, he's not even I had just assumed
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he was nominated this whole time.
And it's just just the it's just as
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a there grafting, which also deserved, I guess, Callin firth one.
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I think callin firth deserved that one. Yeah, just, yeah, Colm
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first, really good, exactly,
an Oscar guy. Yeah, but I
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think directing and picture where the two
big big misses here. For me,
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I think David fidget. It's such
a better job than Tom Hooper. But
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Tom Very topper. Listen, Tom
Hooper is one of my public enemies as
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far as the directors go. But
was it because of the cats? It's
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because a cats, because it is, because it lame. Is it's because
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of every like La that. Well, I guess it's not his most flagrant
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violation of cinematic arts, but it's
fine. But he's no fincher. Oh
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yes, it is a shame,
but whatever. And then it lost.
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The other two was nominated for Word
Cinematography and sound mixing. Both went to
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inception, which fair enough, fair
enough, fair enough, I will take
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it. You know a lot of
competition. You know it's hard to win.
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Yeah, yeah, so I guess
you want to dive into the movie.
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We can start through. We can. It starts with introduces us to
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mark Zuckerberg and his current girlfriend,
played by Rooney Mara. Yeah, Erica
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all bright, which I think is
a fake name, is it? Yeah,
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I didn't. I've never actually looked
that up, but the deposition is
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real. I don't think the dialog
is real, but the the argument and
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stuff that happened is real. Yeah, fair enough, but what? It
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just starts with them at a bar. Mark Zuckerberg is just the worst.
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Yeah, it did. Really doesn't
paint him in any sort of good light
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this whole movie, but it starts
off very well. Okay, this will
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be fun as we go along.
Yes, I don't think it's as mean
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to him as people they really yeah, okay, I'm curious to hear why.
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I kind of like him. I
think we start off at a very
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low point, though. I think
for sure he's completely self and involved,
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like everything he's talking about is about
himself and finals club and he's having four
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different conversations at once. Poor Rooney
Mars is trying to keep up your anymore
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time. But I think the same
thing was sorkin and and the way fincher
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cuts it, or I don't know
if he edited it, but the way
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it's edited makes him seem like he's
very like he knows what he's talking about.
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The same time, yeah, it's
not a he's not a cool dude
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to hang out with, but he's
very smart. Yes, at the same
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time. I think that's why this
opening is so effective and how it in
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in it's script, but also just
the way it looks. Yeah, looks
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really good. One thing I found
out in my research doing this is they
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actually, when they were shooting the
scene, they had the extras in the
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bar like literally just talk and be
loud. So Erica and Mark Zuckerberg literally
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had a yell at each other like
overtop of people, which they never do,
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yeah, in movies, but it
works really well. I couldn't tell
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at all that the dialog wasn't super
clean. Yeah, but you mentioned the
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editor, so I'll bring them up
because I think it's frequent collaborators with him.
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HMM, it's Kirk Baxter and Angus
Wall okay, and I think they
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kind of just like peeback and jump
off scenes and then trade scenes off after
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when I'm some work. Yep,
deserve it. But one thing about this
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opening scene that I really liked is
the apparently they shot like a bunch of
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coverage and close ups and they only
use it once and it's when she says
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it's not because you're a nerd,
it's because you're an asshole or whatever.
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That one was about. That it
was very poignant to just like save the
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close up in the like an six
minute scene, a minut I don't know
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how long someone. Yeah, especially
when it's just like a dialog scene.
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Yeah, you would think you would
go back to close ups a lot,
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but it's a lot of mediums in
the wide. Yeah, I think about
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that. It's curious to because I
know fincher is a somebody who shoots a
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lot of coverage. Yeah, which
is they did ninety nine takes of this
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much. She's well, which I
saw. Jesse Eisenberg said it was his
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favorite day acting ever. Dudes weird. Yeah, Dude Weird. But you
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can see it like, I'm sure
like a lot of this where the later
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takes where they were just fed up
or yes, or anymorrow was fed up
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with it. Jesse Eisenberg, he's, I guess, completely in character the
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whole time. But that's really interesting
because, like a lot of directors,
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they shoot like I know that bonds, Juno and a couple other guys just
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shoot what they know they need.
Yeah, fincher's always one that shoots a
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lot and everything, and I think
it yeah, you know, it works
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for both kinds of style. But
yeah, I definitely think that this movie.
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I think it's because fincher's like a
big mold and clay like editor kind
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of guy. Yeah, like get
every twitch of the performance right, which
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I like to have like seventy versions
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Yeah. So from there, where
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little like rudy leaves Pretty Las pissed
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shot of him running through Harvard and
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I didn't know that. Yeah, this
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one wide shot is the one that
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at Harvard, and they're in a
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Jesse Hasenberg just runs through it.
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reasons why. Pretentious? Probably?
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teach people to class and stuff.
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yeah, we're at this point.
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opening scene, you kind of.
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the worst, he really is,
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this is like the beginning. Is
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I just you just don't think as
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have a feel for him by the
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yeah, I'm an interesting way.
I feel that we'll get there as
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we go. But this is where
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ranking system to, yeah, rank
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how to categorize it and figure it
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oh, that's right, that's why
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okaymember him. I don't understand math
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on the wall or on the window, which is just a cool shot,
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very cool shot. I don't know
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outside the window or something or two
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it's cool. It's very cool looking. And then this is cut with the
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kind of outrageous party at the Phoenix, yes finals club. Yes, there's
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not a lot to say about that
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of having fun. Yeah, and
then these guys are, you know,
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drinking alone in their dorm room.
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it's the juxtaposition of the two.
I guess we're like marks a loser and
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everybody else is having a fun.
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like it hinges on the rest of
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like the scene doesn't work, if
you know, if like facebook doesn't happen
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and mark doesn't get rich Thannice,
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the same implications that it does in
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or did mark go too far?
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yeah, I mean, I want
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yeah, probably, it's definitely a
sorkinism. Right, it's probably not,
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as Zuckerberg direct quote. I don't
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it is from the blogs. Or
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I don't know. I didn't do
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of the blood posts a real but
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try not to do my research and
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if it's not? It's actually not. There's a lot of stuff that's like
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I know, which is fine,
but this movie is so good. Yeah,
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I don't think it hurts my my
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a better piece of like work and
it's like fills their themes more. Yeah,
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definitely. And then so this,
so he gets in trouble with Harvard.
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Yeah, for the facemash website,
right, and every woman on campus
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hates him. Yeah, and then
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that montage, I wanted to say, right at the end of face mash,
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we cut back to runny Mara Finding
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I think it's important because I think
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very little scene time. Yeah,
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like very devastated, and I didn't
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until I got like are called bright's
like close up and the scene and I
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was like, Oh, yeah,
I see, I'm devastating. This really
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pulls it back. Yeah, the
individuality of it. I think, then
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is the first introduction to the court
after this. Yes, and that's when
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we are introduced to the winkle for
well, I think the first one is.
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cross cut between we first learned that
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Andrew, I was going to say
Andrew Garfield, was the characters named Edward
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Ed Wardo is is suing him.
Yes, the first thing we learned.
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And then it cuts inner cuts the
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Winkle VI, the winkle vine.
So then we find out that the winkle
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by are suing him. Yeah,
I guess we could talk about how that
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whole bit works in the movie.
So it's how would you even describe it?
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It's not technically nonlinear, because the
whole story is linear. Yeah,
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the story goes through LINEAR, but
I felt like it's it may it kind
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of get lets them away with stuff
that they are cheating on too, like
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the might not be true. It's
kind of it makes the whole movie seemed
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like a flashback. Sure, yeah, that makes sense from the deaf of
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depositions. Yeah, so it's like, Oh, this is this perspective on
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these events. But I think that
what's we can talk about it later because
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I think it's more effective and in
later bits. But these cuts and like
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probably why the editing is so renowned. It's like you you follow you have
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a Sorkin line in the actual story
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cut to the deposition. I really
holds the gravity of it. Yeah,
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there's a lot of scenes that do
that. Yeah, and I don't know,
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I can't remember anything from this from
this early in the in the film
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that they're honestly, a lot of
the court stuff, I had a hard
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time like replaying it, like remembering
what happens in which scene. Yeah,
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but I think then we're introduced to
them, like just killing everybody on the
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crew, the winklevoss like on the
boat rowing thing with the yeah, Curtis
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like forty feet ahead of everybody else. Yes, we fisted like these guys
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are the best, which, like
we could like that that whole why to
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army hammers? Yeah, I think
it's I think it's brilliant, but it's
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better than which we should give a
big shout out to Josh Pennz, who
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plays Tyler for the majority of the
movie. So I found out the way
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they did this was every scene they
started as army as Cameron, Josh Pence
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as Tyler. Okay, and then
after they shot it they would flip and
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army hammer would have to do everything
that that Josh Pence did. So Josh
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pens made all the creative decisions for
Tyler and army would just recreate that,
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but I mean do his own facial
and voice thing, but like as far
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as body movement and all that ghost
that's very interesting. On twitter I've seen
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a lot of people, a lot
of people talk about this movie on twitter
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and there's one girl that I follow
always says that army hammer played one of
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the winklevied differently, and so that
explains it. Yeah, because it wasn't
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technically him, it was just somebody
else that he had to follow. Yeah,
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interesting, okay, cool. And
originally they were cast. He David
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Entre said it was down between those
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when his cameron on his time.
Really. Yeah, and then they were
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like trying to figure because they couldn't
find real twins, and then they were
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trying to figure out if they could
do FRA turnal twins, if that was
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too much, or if they could
do the face replace. Yeah, and
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then Josh Penn's lost out. So
he had the room lost out. Well,
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listen, I think it turned out
for the better. Yeah, because
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of the army hammers, the MEME. That fits it, you know.
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Yeah, I don't know if it
if that was the case in two thousand
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and ten, but certainly now I'm
like, oh, that's so. This
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movie was a lot of fresh faces
for me when I saw this movie.
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I saw this movie in like in
two thousand and ten. I saw this
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in theaters with my friends in high
school actually, but I'd never seen I
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think I'd seen Jesse Eisenberg before,
but I've never seen Andrew Garfield or Army
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Hammer before. Eddie Garfield was definitely
this was definitely his first big introductions to
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me from him. I thought they
were both really good. Yeah, yeah,
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I didn't have a facebook until probably
like two thousand and eighteen and I
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see this movie probably until two thousand
and fifteen, and so I don't know
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if it's one of my favorites because
of that time in between. Yeah,
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we're like Zuckerberg. History had actually
happened a little bit and this movie had
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a little more relevance. Yeah,
it was a lot bigger than it was
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what it was in two thousand and
ten. Yeah, yeah, that's that's
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funny. I don't know. Where
were we? So I think we go
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to the court next, yes,
and that tyler, the winkelvos six spell
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out their name and then they're like
tyler spelt the usual way. I don't
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know they're they're just watching their heads
move. And then Army Dude. That
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almost the same thing with the other
one. was really funny. Yeah,
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I get in tryed those two character
is. Yeah, okay. The next
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scene is there at breakfast the winklevoss
and we get introduced to let me pull
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up the guy's name, maxazine Gela. Yeah, yes, I don't know
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what claim is in the film,
but Devia Nearonda. I did not.
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So we should, we should talk
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Indian guy that David fincher was like, I just couldn't find an Indian guy
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liked. We audition hundreds of them, so I cast this white guy.
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It's breathing Yaikes. So I didn't
know that. Yeah, but cool.
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That's funny because I don't think they
say his name very often in the movie.
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the fact that they whitewashed, whitewashed
it because they couldn't find one, because
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depotel wasn't out there. I guess
this tell wasn't out there yet. Ever,
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tell would have been perfect. But
yeah, so they're talking about face
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mash and they're like this is the
guy we need. Yeah, and there's
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not a lot of interesting that happens
there. EXCEP for more like character stuff.
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I think Jesse Eisenberg goes to or
Mark Zuckerberg goes to the Harvard Security
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Conference thing because after he got in
troubled and he's shut down a bunch of
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the yeah, whatever, cybersistervers,
servers. Yeah, I think the whole
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Internet crashed. He took down their
whole system. It sounded like intentionally.
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starts with a shot of his flip flops.
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Yeah, and it's like, Oh, dude, this that dude does
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not give a fuck about authority at
all or anything like that. Yeah,
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and then it pulls up to him
and he's like, he says something about
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I apologize to all the women and
stuff and also for crashing your servers.
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I think I deserve like congratulations or
something like that. Thanks or something.
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Yeah, yeah, like you're welcome, basically. Yeah, which is just
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that, like, who knows that
that actually happened? I doubt it did.
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Feel like Mark Zarkerberg is a little
too timid for that kind of yeah,
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I think that's an Aaron Sorkin it's
so great. Yeah, that's yeah,
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Sorkin knows what he's doing and I
think that's what makes this movie so
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good. So this is that when
he's in class and he gets you Dick
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Paper, yeah, which apparently,
also, I found out in the research,
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was much worse. HMM. And
both David fincher and Aaron sorkiner very
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unhappy with the version they had because
of the MPA. It was the sea
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word originally. Oh, and they
said that had a much bigger impact.
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I bet so. They said the
you dick kind of felt like it still
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feels bad, like Oh, he's
got to get out of the room because
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he feels sad, but it doesn't. It's not as hard. Yeah,
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I agree, but you know MPA. You gotta get that. Yeah,
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listen, and they used their their
fucks. Well, we can talk about
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that later. Okay, I don't
actually remember them. Well, there's only
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one, I think. I don't
know what the MPA rules were back back
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in tonny two thousand and ten.
I know you can use it now.
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Yeah, maybe it was only one, because they only use one of the
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film, I think. But okay, then we go. This is when
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the winkle vy I was the JT
one. Yes, yeah, okay,
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yeah, I remember now. Yep, this is when the Winkel by first
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like narratively approach Mark Zuckerberg, right, yes, they're introduction like chronological order.
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Yeah, this is is where they
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hero crew. I guess I'll come
with you. Yeah, which, sure,
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I mean, I guess that's how
it works at Harvard. Yeah,
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and so they invite it back to
the I don't understand the whole club.
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That's a finals club, like the
one that he's been like the things he's
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been talking about at the beginning that
he wants to get into. I've never
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understood how they exactly work. Is
it? Is it basically just a Harvard
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fraternity? So I it's a thing. It's a thing, and my extent
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of knowledge of Finals Club is what's
presented to me in this movie. Exactly.
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the same page. I've just assumed
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it's like Frat. But yeah,
smart and you're rich. Maybe. Yeah,
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so they it's like harder to get
into, I guess. Yeah,
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which that's you just have to pay
and be subject to torture to get into
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a Frat. I never did that, not either. Not Weird to me,
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but well, I want to talk
about this scene because there's a couple
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little funny things I thought in the
scene. Yes, they ask him for
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a sandwich, if he wants to
sandwich, and they come back with this
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big ass. I mean these guys
are like athletes, so they're eating a
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lot of food and he just doesn't
know what to do with it and Jesse
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Eisenberger is like trying to put it
in his pocket. It doesn't fit.
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He's trying to figure out ways to
hold it. was listening to them,
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we just seems very awkward. Yeah, which is Great. Maximilla is here
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to actually yeah, and I think
that's when they meet as well, and
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he I've always taken I think I've
always assumed next, mean got like I
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don't think he needed to be in
the movie, but I think his inclusion
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is great because I think he has
some of the best lines, like I
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think the winkle fire also great.
Yeah, listen, everything is great,
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but I think it just brings like
a little little extra conflict between the three
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of them. Yeah, which is
which is because the crux of their store
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worry's basically like we got to get
cameron to decide to sue him, because
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the other two, tyler and I
forgot the guys. What's the actor's name?
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Maxi Mengela? Yeah, I don't
know who he has but um,
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but he's getting the movie, but
it's just like an extra voice. So
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it's not to tea like Army Hammer
on Army Hammer. Yeah, to the
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same people talking to each other and
every scene. Yeah, which I think
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it's smart. Yeah, and he's
a real person, so you know,
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he might certainly be there. You
know. Yeah, what is this?
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You've got bike room. Was I
don't remember what. Okay, so that's
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this is the they because they in
the finals club. They're like, you
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can't go past the bike room.
There's a bike. Okay, and Josh
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pennce decided to sit on a bike. So then Army Hammer to do it,
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and apparently army had a hammer to
do it forty times because he couldn't
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get it to like stay still the
bike the way that tyler, that Josh
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Pa Steven said. Yeah, that's
funny, I think. Yeah, that's
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and then we go back to the
court and then we go to the Caribbean
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party. Very good scene. Oh, yeah, very good scene. And
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you have a screen cat pulled up
of Edoardoh and wardo outside, very cold.
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I want to talk about the inside
first, though, okay, which
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is basically they're just there to hit
on Asian women's and it looks like a
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very not fun party. HMM,
like very what I was expect from Harvard.
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Yeah, not the cool people at
Harvard. Yeah, but what I
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like about it is Andrew Garfields a
little weird dance thing he does when just
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he hasberg comes up. Yeah,
I can't even describe it, but like
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I know exactly what you're talking yeah, I don't get it. I don't
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know why it's there, but it's
fun. That's something I was like this
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guy's it's guy's a little drunk,
because what my head is. But yeah,
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then they got outside, which is
like the crux of the scene.
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Yeah, which is where this is
where mark kind of first pitches. What
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happens here? Yeah, yeah,
he pitches in facebook. Yeah, basically,
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but it's post the the winkle vy
kind of pitching him a similar idea.
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Yeah, it's pretty similar. I
think there was a couple things you
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said that were different and now I
feel like I'm not qualified to talk about
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the movie because I don't remember what
those things were. I don't either,
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but it was it was slightly different. He's specifically mentioned not a dating service,
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which was what there's was. Yes, yeah, he wanted to want
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it to be purely social. Yeah, so it was like more open ended,
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a larger idea than the MINCHEL vosses. Yeah, but that's kind of
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where would you call the winkle Voss
has the main point of conflict in this
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movie? I think there's a lot. Yeah, same, I think.
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I think there's like two. There's
two movies going on. Yeah, the
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Edward Versus Mark Movie and there's The
winkle Voss versus mark movie. Well,
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this is where the winklevoss versus mark
movie kind of gets going. Yeah,
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right, and I think that's what
most of the first half of the movie
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is. Yeah, I think after
this, following that is a series of
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like court things and cutting back with
the talking about the emails and about how
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he was like leading them on,
yeah, but not actually doing anything for
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their company. Yeah, and I
guess we should note that like when we
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say court, there's two different courts
going. Well, not two different chords,
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but it's two different like deposition depictitions
going on to words. And the
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one we cut back to most in
the first half of the movies for the
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Winkel boss is, yes, at
Harvard. Correct, I think. I
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think they're at the same place.
Okay, they're both like happening at the
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same time. Okay, because he
references being into later on. I guess
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you're right, like I'm at too. So I think these are supposed to
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take place like basically at the same
time. Yes, I just always like
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the way they're framed. Yeah,
we can kind of talk about it right
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now, the way the the winklevoss
versus mark, when his frame, like
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the room is all would. It's
yeah, would, it's like dark,
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it's it looks like Harvard, and
I feel like that's what they were going
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for. Yeah, I see that. And then the second one is all
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las our field is brighter. I
never noticed that. Yeah, you're right,
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sleeker and I feel like that represents
like the second half of the movie
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more. It's very true. That's
just always like I just assume that's what
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they wanted us to get out of
that. Yeah, kind of connecting those
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two things, but I agree with
that. Then we go to okay,
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see very important news for it,
Ward Wardo. He gets invited to the
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Phoenix Club, which is one of
the finals clubs. Yeah, yeah,
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I think it's the one that we
see the party at the very beginning.
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Okay, so it's like that calling
back to that. Yeah, which makes
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sense. And Mark did not get
an invite. Yeah, it is important
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later on. It's cool. Marks, marks kind of Nice to him.
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Right, yeah, about it.
Yeah, he's excited for him. He's
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like he he's a good friend.
Yeah, in this moment, but I
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guess slightly downplays it a little bit. It's like a congratulations, but if
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you don't get it, you know
that's fine. You know it's lame anyway.
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Yeah, that kind of thing.
And then, which is like,
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I guess, the first kind of
divide and their friendship. I guess like
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the First Little Block ID degree is
setting up the rest of the the second
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half of the movie, I'd say. I think. After that is Jesse
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Eisenberg. So Jurassic Park Kid shows
up. Well, he's there a lot
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because he's there Jesse Eisenberg's roommate.
Yeah, he comes up to him in
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the library or something and is like
hey, is this person dating somebody?
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And then he comes up with the
relationship status. Basically, yes, Sprint
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home makes those changes. And then
now facebook is live for only Harvard.
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Yeah, for students. You have
to have a harvard to you email.
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Right. Yeah, is that how
they police? And then Edward Dough is
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there too, yes, at launch
and they get really excited. He says
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something about, like you don't know
what this will mean to my parents,
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which kind of set in like Oh, yeah, these guys are like kids.
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Yeah, like they're like nineteen years
old. Yeah, at this point
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I just all right like yeah,
that is a hard thing to remember.
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I don't think that fincher ever really
like he really well, there's a lot
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of talk about them not ordering drinks
at places because they're under a show like
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I can, we can drink here
because you know the Bart are, you're
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sleeping with the bartender in the opening
scene. And then there's when they meet
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Justin timber like later. Well,
spoilers, but they're like the apple teine's.
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Yeah, they're like, well,
I don't want to do it.
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What if we get carded? It'll
be embarrassing. But that's really like the
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only thing that like I never never
thought about that younger, that they are
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actually under, technically under twenty one
for most of it. Yeah, that's
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weird. That is really weird now
think about it like that, but I
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guess it makes like maybe it justifies
a lot of the movie. I don't
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know if that's what fincher trying to
do. Yeah, I think a lot
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of it is like, look at
these mistakes they made. His kids,
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like kid didn't know what they were
doing. Interesting. And then I think
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a lot of people are right in
this. Like I think I think it's
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true that facebook doesn't exist without the
winklevosses giving him that idea originally. But
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I also think that Harvard connection is
not facebook, like their idea is not
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what it became. Same. Yeah, it was like a yeah, a
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cause and effect, but not directly
correlated. Yeah, kind of a thing.
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But then the winklevoss is here about
the actual site that's been launched.
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Yeah, Cuz the the fake Indian
Guy, yes, what I heard.
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Yes, the white Indian guy finds
out on a laptop. And this is
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one of the funny parts, Yeah, of this movie to me is where
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he like literally knocks over like four
chairs trying to run away and then runs
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with the laptop and has to go
back and the girl the laptop back.
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He's just not in the good space
right now. Well, I guess deservingly
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so. I always always wondered how, like he has any steak in the
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whole story. Yeah, it's not
really clear what each one of them did.
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But the winklevoss and him, he's
there, are the three that created
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Harvard connection. Yeah, but it's
not really you don't really have an idea
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of WHO's doing what job in creating
that. Ye, like you do with
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facebook. That's like Eduardo handling the
business, mark handling them the text.
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Yeah, and that. But in
there's you don't really know. You're just
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supposed to, I guess, know
that they're the entity. HMM, they're
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equal partners. Supposedly. That makes
sense. But you know, two of
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the people are six five, so
they're taking a lot of the attention.
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Exide to twenty is two of him. That's funny. And then we go
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to we cut back some residual court, the winkle Vye. Okay, we've
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gotten here, right. Why don't
you come to the WINKLEVOSS for money?
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Yeah, your facebook idea? Yeah, because we're loaded, you know.
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Yeah, that's an interesting point too
that we haven't mentioned. The wink of
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by art are loaded and Mark Zuckerberg
is not. Yeah, he's just there
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because he's smart, which is another
sort of divide between the two of them
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that I think fincher and Sorkin really
harp on, although it's not. Yeah,
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like obvious. Well, Wardo comes
from money to it. Whar did
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I come from? They're like bfs
at this point. Yeah, but I
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don't think like the way fincher has
a widow carry himself and how he how
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he has the winkle by carrying them. Yes, is, well, the
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winkelvoss different? Yeah, they come
off very entitled to me. Yes,
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yeah, privileged. Yeah, like, whereas our D Wardo's kind of still,
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kind of Nerdy, you know.
Yeah, rich but not privileged,
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which I'm sure that's the way it
was in real life. But I think
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fincher does a good job. It
just differenting a differentiating those two, or
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maybe it's working. I really couldn't
tell you who it is. Well,
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it's a collective. Yeah, I
guess it's a brain trust kind of thing.
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To Brenda Song. Is that where
you're going? Who That is?
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Yes, listen, Brenda Song very
important to this movie, very important to
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me as a person. Brenda Song
was on what freaking Disney channel show a
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Sheh on. It's just funny that
she's in this movie because I grew up
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with Brenda Song. She's on the
sweet life Zagon. Cody okay, that's
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so us. We're going from that
to this is just legendary, but go
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ahead. Well, this is just
her introduction. Yeah, I think it's
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the the Bill Gates and personators up
there talking about something and then she's like
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hey, you did facebook, basically
something to along the lines of like I
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want to do you. Yeah,
to D Wardo told water I am.
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It's like much more. It's like
facebook me and then get drinks or something,
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but it's basically like yeah, think
you're hot. Yeah, it's like
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the introduction to how facebook is being
used, but it's directly from Edward's one
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of the point of view. Yeah, which is cool. I think it's
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a reactionary take on like how,
like facebook was dating goes to yeah,
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as as we'll see with her character
later in the film. Interesting that she's
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included, but I'm very glad she's
there. Yeah, same time, like
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she's not too important, but it's
just it's just for I be wondering if
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she's real at all. I feel
like if I didn't do any research on
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this part, but I feel like
she might be made up, made up.
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Yeah, figment, just because,
I mean she's got such a strong
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presence in the burning of the fire. Well, I don't want to talk
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aboutout to look at it, I
think. Yeah, rent a song.
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Great, you don't care if she's
real or not. She's great. Yeah,
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legendary. Well, they're outside and
there's the funny joke about the next
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Bill Gates be in there. Oh, he's like drunk kids. Yea.
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Well, I don't know if they're
drunk, they're just kind of they're kind
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of star stuck, I guess,
because I get will get pression. Well,
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yeah, and also that it's Mark
Zuckerberg. Oh, like, the
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kid looks really nervous, like now
that facebook is launched, they kind of
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have this like celebrity status a little
bit. Yeah, at least among like
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these computer nerds here, I guess. HMM. Which I think is important
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for like tracking their their ego as
we go. Yeah, it's a change
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in their lives. I think it's
a big part of this movie. That,
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like, it's basically what this is
about, right. Yeah, it's
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just the rise and fall. MM. Thing next is they go back to
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the apartment and Eduardo finds out that
they got the seas and assist letter from
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the winkelboss. So I think this
is Eduardo's first introduction to the winkelboss and
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didn't talk about it like that.
Not sure, maybe not. I remember.
525
00:29:56.339 --> 00:29:57.500
No, I think you're right because
I remember him asking mark, why
526
00:29:57.500 --> 00:30:00.539
didn't you tell me about this?
Yeah, because I think you're totally right,
527
00:30:00.579 --> 00:30:04.660
because because mark really it's like the
first, first part, where we
528
00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:07.730
see mark pushing and water to the
side, even though he's half the business.
529
00:30:07.769 --> 00:30:11.210
Are He's a hundred percent of the
business, half the cut half,
530
00:30:11.250 --> 00:30:12.970
the third of the can you call
it a company? Thirty three, he's
531
00:30:14.009 --> 00:30:15.250
thirty percent or whatever. Yeah,
but well, I don't know. Mark
532
00:30:15.289 --> 00:30:18.769
Zuckerberg in this movie keeps saying it's
not a business. Yet it right,
533
00:30:18.930 --> 00:30:22.160
and that's what I know. It's
hard for me, because I'm the business
534
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.319
person. It's hard to, yeah, gage that at all. But I
535
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.279
think the scene is interesting because Eduardo
seems very concerned, like they did steal
536
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.440
this idea clashing. That is Mark
Zuckerberg is not concerned at all, like
537
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.269
he he never seems to think that
he did anything wrong, like you can
538
00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:38.710
in these flashbacks, like he sees
like this. I think this is the
539
00:30:38.750 --> 00:30:42.630
analogy of the chair, which I
agree that the movie makes him come off
540
00:30:42.710 --> 00:30:45.829
like a Dick, but I think
it makes him come off like establishes his
541
00:30:45.910 --> 00:30:49.460
point of view really well. This
just because you built a chair doesn't mean
542
00:30:49.500 --> 00:30:53.460
you the everybody that builds a chair
owes you money. Like it's I built
543
00:30:53.460 --> 00:30:56.500
a better chair, different chair.
Yeah, like which I think it's at
544
00:30:56.539 --> 00:31:00.019
the same time, like you're it's
really smart on Sorkin and fincher's part that
545
00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:03.180
it kind of makes the audience question
like you're never on either of their sides
546
00:31:03.220 --> 00:31:07.730
a hundred percent. Yeah, because
you hate mark, but you also hate
547
00:31:07.730 --> 00:31:11.529
the winkelbosses, so you hate the
winkelbosses there. Oh Yeah, absolutely nice.
548
00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:14.450
I feel like Edward, throughout the
whole film, is the like the
549
00:31:14.569 --> 00:31:18.529
emotional tether for the audience, if
that makes sense. Like I feel like
550
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.200
if he's not there or if he's
not for trade the way he is,
551
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.400
it's just an alien movie. Yes, if you don't have anybody to a
552
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.079
relate to, this will be really
fun, because I have a had a
553
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.279
vastly I rewatched this the other day
or a couple days ago, and I
554
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.910
had a vastly different experience than I
did the first time. Okay, first,
555
00:31:33.029 --> 00:31:36.950
the first, probably few times I've
seen this movie, I was exactly
556
00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:40.029
like you're saying, Oh, like
as ward was my way in. Yeah,
557
00:31:40.349 --> 00:31:41.950
and then watching this movie again,
in a lot of ways I'm like
558
00:31:42.109 --> 00:31:45.869
he kind of deserved it and we'll
get to that when we get to those
559
00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:48.380
sure things where I think he like, yeah, it's not as black and
560
00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:52.380
white, but I think he's the
emotional as far as the like he's the
561
00:31:52.460 --> 00:31:56.900
most emotional character. Yes, Andrew
Garfield plays that like right on the surface,
562
00:31:56.140 --> 00:32:00.140
like he is very emotive in the
scenes. So, yeah, like
563
00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:04.089
when I'm supposed to feel sad for
him or feel his emotion, I do
564
00:32:04.329 --> 00:32:08.569
very well. Versus the winklevoss and
I think Mark Zuckerberger much more closed off,
565
00:32:08.809 --> 00:32:12.450
like we don't really see their emotions. Yeah, so it is.
566
00:32:12.690 --> 00:32:15.289
We see the Winkel Voss get mad, I guess Tyler Get mad, but
567
00:32:15.529 --> 00:32:19.240
we don't really see mark Zuckerberg's emotions
at all. Really. He's kind of
568
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.119
always a closed gate, yes,
which I feel like he that's how he
569
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.960
is in real life. I feel
like Jess Eisenberg really nailed that. Yeah,
570
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.880
I don't know if that's in even
in the script. If that,
571
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.349
if that's supposed to be how it
is, but I think he did nail
572
00:32:30.349 --> 00:32:34.470
it as far as that goes.
Yeah, I agree. The next scene
573
00:32:34.509 --> 00:32:37.109
is the the bathroom Blowie, I
think with I don't remember the sorry,
574
00:32:37.670 --> 00:32:40.390
I were remember you remember? Why? I don't remember. Why is it?
575
00:32:40.470 --> 00:32:43.750
Why isn't? Why is it important? Because I know it is.
576
00:32:43.910 --> 00:32:46.579
So it's important because it's it's right
after this. They just have this big
577
00:32:46.660 --> 00:32:50.740
fight. So then they're going out
to meet these one women for drinks.
578
00:32:50.779 --> 00:32:52.619
HMM. Takes Him in the in
the bathroom. They're both having a good
579
00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:55.859
time. You see Andrew Garfield,
but you hear Mark Zuckerberg laughs. Yes,
580
00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:59.970
assuming he's having fun too. Yeah, Um, and then we cut
581
00:33:00.009 --> 00:33:04.289
outside to Josh Pence, is actually
in the movie with a face. He
582
00:33:04.369 --> 00:33:07.170
has a little cameo go for him. He was just walks up to the
583
00:33:07.210 --> 00:33:12.410
bathroom and then there's girls in there
getting ready and he's like cool, yeah,
584
00:33:12.650 --> 00:33:15.680
or something. It's like one line. Yes, it's like very patronizing,
585
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.079
like here you're in the movie.
Then Guy, he's but I think
586
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.599
this seems important because it are call
bright the restaurant, yes, and that's
587
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.279
why that's where the rest room is. Okay, I do remember now,
588
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:30.470
and it's that cut and mark absolutely
embarrass him. Embarrasses himself. Yeah,
589
00:33:30.549 --> 00:33:32.910
and of her and her friends.
Yes, so he comes over like he's
590
00:33:34.029 --> 00:33:37.829
seems like he's trying to apologize,
but in classic Mark Fashion, he has
591
00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:40.819
to explain how well he's doing and
like what he's he has to talk about
592
00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:45.740
himself first before he gets to the
apology. Yeah, and obviously that doesn't
593
00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:49.779
work. That's happens. Yeah,
so she shuts him down and I don't
594
00:33:49.819 --> 00:33:52.859
think he ever even gets to apologize. But I think it's clear that's what
595
00:33:52.980 --> 00:33:54.890
he's walking up to do. Like
he feels kind of somber walking up to
596
00:33:54.930 --> 00:34:00.529
me, at least my reading,
and maybe it's viewing this recently, more
597
00:34:00.569 --> 00:34:02.809
sympathetic to mark than I used to
be. MMM. So maybe he is
598
00:34:02.809 --> 00:34:06.450
coming over there to just try and
win her back. I don't think so.
599
00:34:06.529 --> 00:34:08.570
I think you're right. I think
he does is genuinely feel bad about
600
00:34:08.570 --> 00:34:12.920
it. I don't know what he
was expecting. Yeah, I mean he
601
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.719
got what he deserved. Yeah,
exactly. I love in this at the
602
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.920
end when he walks away because obviously
he's not getting her alone to talk and
603
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.559
it's going to be it's weird in
front of the friends. He just leaves,
604
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:24.789
but she's like good luck with your
video game or whatever, like she
605
00:34:24.989 --> 00:34:30.110
was just wasn't listening to him at
all. Yeah, which, man,
606
00:34:30.590 --> 00:34:32.269
but I think this is important because
it's the at least in the course of
607
00:34:32.349 --> 00:34:37.190
the movie. It's what inspires the
we need to expand. Yeah, Harvard's
608
00:34:37.190 --> 00:34:39.539
not enough anymore. Yeah, so
they go to to other Ivy League schools.
609
00:34:39.539 --> 00:34:42.820
I forgot what they were, and
Andrew Garfield is like, and also
610
00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:45.940
Stanford, because that's a silicon valley
for him. Yeah, that's where the
611
00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:49.900
tech people are. So want to
get them to see it, which I
612
00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:53.289
think is what brings us to Oh, actually, before this is the introduction,
613
00:34:53.329 --> 00:34:55.849
to receive our owns as a speaking
character and not an extra. Yes,
614
00:34:55.929 --> 00:34:59.090
so she's been in this a lot
so far, but she's just been
615
00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.449
an extra. Never had a line. Yep, and I don't really remember
616
00:35:01.489 --> 00:35:04.889
what they talk about. I think
they just talked about face mash or something
617
00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:07.050
like, something old. Yeah,
because, I. E. comes right
618
00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:09.159
after they eric apart. Yeah,
so I'm pretty sure it's the direct like
619
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.159
the cut there is when we hear
what he feels about it later. Yeah,
620
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.039
and I like their chemistry together.
Say again another I think this is
621
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.400
like one of the few parts where
they actively try to humanize mark. Yeah,
622
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.150
which is they could have cast anybody
for the Rasheta Jones Roll. Yeah,
623
00:35:24.389 --> 00:35:28.469
she's not that important. Didn't really
take all that much, but the
624
00:35:28.590 --> 00:35:30.070
fact that they cast her. She's
a name. People know who she is.
625
00:35:30.190 --> 00:35:32.989
Yeah, I think it makes people
pay more attention to these scenes.
626
00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:36.900
I agree, and I think it's
great that they got her to be an
627
00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.139
extra for like twenty days. Yeah, like, I mean I would assume
628
00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:43.980
like almost more than three quarters of
the day she was there. She wasn't
629
00:35:44.019 --> 00:35:46.900
doing anything spar this like being an
extra real yeah, which, yeah,
630
00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:51.969
give her getting paid. Yeah,
but yeah, and then we go we
631
00:35:52.090 --> 00:35:55.489
get our Shaun Parker introduction, Parker
with a legendary Dakoda Johnson. Yeah,
632
00:35:55.530 --> 00:35:59.130
so I didn't know that was the
kode Johnson til this time watching it really
633
00:35:59.329 --> 00:36:01.570
and I always thought her performance is
kind of not that great in this movie.
634
00:36:01.730 --> 00:36:04.960
Yeah, then you learned it was
the Koude Johnson. You like?
635
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.199
Oh, okay, no, I
like a lot of her performance. There's
636
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.480
just one line reading at the end
that I don't really like when she's talking
637
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.440
about we had facebook for like a
week or so or some it's just comes
638
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.079
off very awkward. To me.
I think she's great up until that like
639
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.869
end, hm. But anyway,
maybe that's an editor's choice. Maybe I'm
640
00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:22.150
I don't like fincher's choice of clip
there, but that's fair. But the
641
00:36:22.349 --> 00:36:27.110
important party Sean Parker. Yeah,
obviously Justin timber like, which another great
642
00:36:27.150 --> 00:36:29.909
bit of casting. I don't think
people like Justin Timber Lake as an actor.
643
00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:31.429
Yeah, I'd never seen him Mac
prior to this. Like I knew
644
00:36:31.429 --> 00:36:34.980
who just Sam were. Like was
obviously yeah, and when I left the
645
00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:37.980
movie I wasn't the first time I
saw it, I wasn't as an enthralled
646
00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:39.699
with how good he was as I
would come later over the years, I
647
00:36:39.739 --> 00:36:44.300
think because I was still just stuck
behind this just in tern star really SONA.
648
00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:46.170
Yeah, but he's fantastic in this. He's very good in this movie
649
00:36:46.170 --> 00:36:50.489
and I think he plays it perfectly. You never really like him, but
650
00:36:50.610 --> 00:36:52.409
you're like, oh, he's useful. Yeah. At the same time you
651
00:36:52.489 --> 00:36:55.250
come from the Eduardo Perspective, so
do you feel the same way that?
652
00:36:55.570 --> 00:36:59.809
Oh, yeah, does hate hate? I don't like Justin timber like in
653
00:36:59.889 --> 00:37:01.840
movies. So you don't like anybody
at this movie except Everard water and everyone
654
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.960
who loves this movie. I mean
I love this, yeah, because it's
655
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.079
so great, because it alien needs
you so oh hard. But he's still
656
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.360
so humanizing for all of all of
the characters, even Seawan Parker. I
657
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.559
think it's humanizes him specifically in this
scene, because he's napster, failed,
658
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.309
you know, he's not really anything
important. Yeah, he's just I like
659
00:37:16.469 --> 00:37:20.349
this introduction to him because it shows
that he's a playboy, yeah, that
660
00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:22.949
he's confident, but also that he
pays attention to things and has a good
661
00:37:22.989 --> 00:37:25.750
memory and he knows people. Yeah, he's like, I know you,
662
00:37:27.150 --> 00:37:29.869
I learned all your information about you. Basically, yeah, I got this.
663
00:37:29.949 --> 00:37:30.980
I'm not, but it's great.
I think it's great. He didn't
664
00:37:30.980 --> 00:37:34.099
have a place to sleep that night, so he slept at the Koda Johnson's.
665
00:37:34.380 --> 00:37:37.219
Yeah, I think that's cool,
we'll take it. And then this
666
00:37:37.340 --> 00:37:39.179
is where he finds out about facebook. Yes, and you get this glint
667
00:37:39.219 --> 00:37:43.739
and his I like he just heard
bringing sexy back or something. Yeah,
668
00:37:44.690 --> 00:37:46.650
honestly, yeah, just pulling that
back around. I think fincher knows his
669
00:37:47.010 --> 00:37:51.570
actors and he knows their personas he
knows, Ben Affleck should have been the
670
00:37:51.570 --> 00:37:53.130
one and gone girl. Yeah,
and that's how it works and I think
671
00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:57.489
that's the same thing here with Justin
Timber Lake, which actually that's a good
672
00:37:57.489 --> 00:38:00.599
thing. I have some research from
fincher talking about the casting of this.
673
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.480
Apparently they auditioned pretty much everybody a
bunch of times with Justin Timberlake. Came
674
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.039
in like twenty times really, and
Dave ventcher said every time he was like
675
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.960
this is the guy and the studio
and everybody was like yeah, but no
676
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.670
one else is this famous. It's
big, and he's like okay, okay,
677
00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:16.190
all right, we'll spring more people
in, and then every time he's
678
00:38:16.230 --> 00:38:20.389
like this is the guy. That's
a lot like good on Justin Timberlake,
679
00:38:20.429 --> 00:38:22.949
I guess. I think that also
includes like video auditions or talks or meetings
680
00:38:22.989 --> 00:38:27.420
and stuff. I don't think it's
necessarily like twenty like in person. Yeah,
681
00:38:27.460 --> 00:38:30.460
in the room. Yeah, auditions, like acting auditions, but just
682
00:38:30.780 --> 00:38:35.219
like meetings and stuff. Yeah,
and then Jesse Eisenberg, they said he
683
00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:37.380
was like looking for a bunch of
people and he'd seen squid in the whale
684
00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:40.650
and something else. Forgot what he
said the other movie was, but he
685
00:38:40.769 --> 00:38:45.050
was like yeah, just he hasn'tburgs
is really like has this niceness to him.
686
00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:47.210
So he liked immediately. was like
I don't want Jesse Eisenberg really.
687
00:38:47.329 --> 00:38:50.969
Yeah, he was like I think
he's a really talented actor, but I
688
00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:52.809
don't want him. And then Jesse
Eisenberg sent in a tape and he was
689
00:38:52.889 --> 00:38:57.440
like, oh well, fuck.
Apparently they didn't make him audition a bunch
690
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.480
of times. After they saw the
tape they were like once you got the
691
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.079
part. Nice. That's interesting because
I feel like he in this and he
692
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:05.400
and squint in the whale are very
similar performances. Yeah, I don't like
693
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.480
him. In squitt in the Ohiale, I don't like him either, but
694
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.269
he's like kind of naive and fun. He's young. Yeah, which I
695
00:39:09.349 --> 00:39:14.349
guess plays into this too. Hey, sing, maybe fincher saw him.
696
00:39:14.429 --> 00:39:15.869
Is Like, Oh, like the
meanness is just kind of as a naive
697
00:39:15.909 --> 00:39:19.949
kid. Yeah, as opposed to
he wanted something a little more darker sinister.
698
00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:24.860
Yeah. Yeah, and Andrew Garfield
was originally up for the Mark Zuckerberg
699
00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:30.780
role. Bad. Yeah, and
then David fincher was like, why don't
700
00:39:30.820 --> 00:39:34.300
you read the script? And thing
about Edwardo, like well, you try
701
00:39:34.340 --> 00:39:37.730
this again. fincher knows. Yeah, what's Andrew Garfield is not Hispanic.
702
00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:42.250
We didn't talk about that one either. No, Bardo Sanchez, yeah,
703
00:39:42.449 --> 00:39:45.570
which he's had an interesting career because
he was in silence to which is about
704
00:39:45.570 --> 00:39:49.969
Portuguese. Yeah, Um, prettiest
YEP, didn't thing about that one.
705
00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:53.039
He's a little Tan. He's yeah, he has a good American accent.
706
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:57.239
I guess Dave fincher just likes to
cast white people and that's just what it
707
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.239
is. He's a white dude.
Yeah, wow, I don't know.
708
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.079
And then we go to the winkle
by great scene, Winkel by the Harvard
709
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.670
Dean. Yes, I love this. Say they lay out their case and
710
00:40:07.869 --> 00:40:10.989
the Dean basically says I don't care. Yeah, there's one line that the
711
00:40:12.070 --> 00:40:14.989
Dean says that I really love.
I think the Wikelbasso, like that doesn't
712
00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.349
make any sense to me or something. He just kind of goes. I'm
713
00:40:16.429 --> 00:40:21.070
devastated by that, just like in
this monotone like I don't care way.
714
00:40:21.190 --> 00:40:22.699
Yeah, that I was like,
Oh, well, apparently this guy's an
715
00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:27.340
agent. He's not an actor really, he's Gary Olman's agent and apparently the
716
00:40:28.099 --> 00:40:30.460
fits fincher is like really good friends
with Gary Olman, so he'd like met
717
00:40:30.500 --> 00:40:32.300
the agent before and he was like
hey, why don't you just do this?
718
00:40:34.059 --> 00:40:36.690
I like, I like when directors
do that. It's fun. Yeah,
719
00:40:36.769 --> 00:40:38.489
and I think that it really plays
well to this scene. Yeah,
720
00:40:38.489 --> 00:40:43.369
because that agent mentality apparently just playing
himself. Yeah, yeah, just,
721
00:40:43.530 --> 00:40:45.289
yeah, I don't care. He
doesn't suffer fools, and neither is the
722
00:40:45.329 --> 00:40:51.079
dean here. The Dean seems like
very upset that he's wasting his time.
723
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.079
Yeah, like, why are you
guys here? Valid is I'm sure there's
724
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:55.519
a nice joke looking back at this, though, when they're like this could
725
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:59.679
be worth millions of dollars and he's
like yeah, right, and it's like
726
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.199
I no, it's weird billy like
they were undershooting it by a lot,
727
00:41:04.429 --> 00:41:07.030
a lot. That's funny. And
then we go you have Aaron s working
728
00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.949
cameo written down. Yeah, yeah, ever seen that as that important?
729
00:41:10.429 --> 00:41:14.110
I just thought it was fun.
I also think it's fun. Well,
730
00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:16.349
it's plays in a larger context.
It's the we cut to the court room
731
00:41:16.349 --> 00:41:20.980
and it's now we're like getting deeper
into the Eduardo stuff, and I like
732
00:41:21.099 --> 00:41:23.739
what they do about the court is
they set up the fall before they show
733
00:41:23.780 --> 00:41:28.260
it. HM, so we know
Edwardo and him have a falling out and
734
00:41:28.340 --> 00:41:30.820
then, yeah, he's talking about
going to the agencies to try and get
735
00:41:30.820 --> 00:41:34.929
ad revenue. Yes, and Mark
Zuckerberg just like not paying attention at all
736
00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:37.690
or making word sounds. Hmmm.
And then Aaron swergin's in it, and
737
00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:39.170
that's I just thought that was fun. Yeah, yeah, he's not that
738
00:41:39.250 --> 00:41:40.889
good in it. I. Oh, mean he's one line. He's not
739
00:41:40.929 --> 00:41:44.489
bad at it. He's great,
he's fine. It's just like it's just
740
00:41:44.650 --> 00:41:47.599
like, oh, why Aaron?
But I think I wrote that down because
741
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.199
I thought it was funny that I
found out that apparently David fincher told Aaron
742
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.239
swork and you wanted him to do
it like forty days before they shot and
743
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.440
Aaron sworkin was on set like every
day. HMM. He's like that kind
744
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:00.550
of writer that's like on set there
all the time. Good for him.
745
00:42:00.630 --> 00:42:02.829
And apparently like every day he was
like, are you sure you don't want
746
00:42:02.829 --> 00:42:06.429
to find somebody else to do it? Like he really did not want to
747
00:42:06.469 --> 00:42:07.989
do it. That's funny. It
really isn't that big of a scene.
748
00:42:07.989 --> 00:42:10.510
No, no, it's what.
It's literally one line. It's like what
749
00:42:10.630 --> 00:42:14.590
sound is that or something, but
yeah, I saw something interesting as far
750
00:42:14.630 --> 00:42:16.460
as like the the scripts goes,
in the behind the scenes stuff and the
751
00:42:16.699 --> 00:42:20.179
opening scene. I guess we should
talked about it there, but I saw
752
00:42:20.219 --> 00:42:22.099
a clip where and Sorkin goes up
to Rooney Marn is, like you're saying
753
00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:24.739
or anybody, and you need to
be saying everybody, like he was like
754
00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:29.539
this level of like every word is
what I say. Yeah, yeah,
755
00:42:30.730 --> 00:42:34.650
which I thought was an interesting insight. Yeah, I sworking isn't my favorite
756
00:42:34.650 --> 00:42:37.250
writer. Yeah, by any means. I think he's very good at it,
757
00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:39.969
but I do think it's because he's
very anal about the way it comes
758
00:42:39.969 --> 00:42:45.000
across. Yeah, you know,
but everybody versus anybody's that a stick of
759
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:46.320
a difference. I don't know,
it's the sound. I don't know.
760
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.480
If it was anybody, they would
have won the Oscar. Yeah, yeah,
761
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.679
they there we go. This is
one of my favorite scenes. Yeah,
762
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.639
cut back to the narrative. We
this is when. Yeah, so
763
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.349
they go straight from the air and
sworkin thing to Justin timber like at the
764
00:43:00.630 --> 00:43:02.389
dinner and this is this all happens
in kyl for you, right, and
765
00:43:02.429 --> 00:43:06.750
that's why it's important, because they're
trying to expand. I don't know if
766
00:43:06.789 --> 00:43:08.909
they're in California or yeah, I
think they're in New York, as are
767
00:43:08.989 --> 00:43:13.300
not for ad revenues when I thought
they were, but it I don't know.
768
00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:15.059
It's important, though. It's definitely
not near Harvard. Yeah, they're
769
00:43:15.059 --> 00:43:19.500
not in Boston. Yes, but
this is this is their introduction to Sean
770
00:43:19.579 --> 00:43:23.579
Parker and it's Zuckerberg, Eduardo and
so don't know her name, but Burnda
771
00:43:23.659 --> 00:43:28.289
Song Character, read a song's character. Yeah, Eduardo's girlfriend. And this
772
00:43:28.369 --> 00:43:30.449
is when we were talking about the
APPLETINE's earlier. HMM. And it kind
773
00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:36.329
of introduces it's an introduction to Sean
Parker that we, as the audience,
774
00:43:36.449 --> 00:43:39.849
did not get. Yeah, it's
a very different Sean Parker that Zuckerberg and
775
00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:44.960
Eduardo are meeting for the first time, and I feel like that's why this
776
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.159
for relationship kind of happens. Yeah, it's like a performance, like we're
777
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:51.119
seeing him. We saw him kind
of just relaxed. Yeah, the first
778
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.199
scene and then this is like the
performance. This is the on. This
779
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:57.789
the yeah, the cellar. They
yeah, businessman or whatever. I don't
780
00:43:57.829 --> 00:44:00.750
know what Sean Parker does to B
I don't even I don't know I don't
781
00:44:00.750 --> 00:44:02.309
know what he does for facebook.
I don't know what he does for Heal.
782
00:44:02.349 --> 00:44:06.230
He wheeled himself in and I think
that's like the fact that they don't
783
00:44:06.230 --> 00:44:08.230
tell us what he does is kind
of important to he's here. He's not
784
00:44:08.349 --> 00:44:12.699
really important, but he's there.
He's like Mark Zuckerberg's hype man. Yeah,
785
00:44:12.820 --> 00:44:15.500
basically I like the scene a lot
because it sets up the friction right
786
00:44:15.539 --> 00:44:20.260
away between Andrew Garfield and Sean Parker, Shaan Parker, and I feel like
787
00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:22.780
it digs it even deeper with Zuckerberg. Yeah, to even in the scene.
788
00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:27.250
But yeah, and they have this
like weird little party montage where they're
789
00:44:27.409 --> 00:44:30.449
like drinking and the food and stuff
and it shows them talking but you're not
790
00:44:30.489 --> 00:44:32.250
hearing what they're saying. Yes,
is this where he says this is is
791
00:44:32.289 --> 00:44:36.250
this the Victoria secret story? No, that's later. They is later.
792
00:44:36.570 --> 00:44:39.320
Okay, at this one he's talking
at this is the first introduction of the
793
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.760
idea of you know what's cool what's
not. A million dollars isn't cool.
794
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.239
You know it's cool, billion dollars, billion, legendary line. This is
795
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.119
also where he says drop the though
right. Yeah, yeah, at the
796
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.880
very end of the great lines.
Thank you, Sorkin, for is those
797
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:58.150
live rent free in my head.
And then we go back this this a
798
00:44:58.829 --> 00:45:01.550
seemingly unimportant scene. Well, I
want to talk about the Shawn Parker thing.
799
00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:04.829
Just one okay, because one thing
I really liked about this was he
800
00:45:04.869 --> 00:45:07.219
kind of should when he first shows
up, he's kind of like friends with
801
00:45:07.340 --> 00:45:09.340
everybody. Yeah, and then it
seems like Sean Parker has realized, okay,
802
00:45:09.340 --> 00:45:14.539
facebook is Mark Zuckerberg. Yes,
and he so that. And I
803
00:45:14.579 --> 00:45:17.260
think Edwardo makes the biggest mistake he
makes in the whole thing, which is
804
00:45:17.340 --> 00:45:22.090
asking Sean Parker advertising, just asking
Sean Parker's opinion, like it's me versus
805
00:45:22.170 --> 00:45:25.329
mark here, because no matter what
Sean Parker believe, I think by this
806
00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:29.849
point of the narrative he's figured out
Mark Zuckerberger's facebook port one. Yeah,
807
00:45:29.849 --> 00:45:31.610
so I pick, like I choose
him. Yeah, and he starts it
808
00:45:31.650 --> 00:45:35.170
off like, well, neither of
you are right, but then he says
809
00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:38.559
Mark Zuckerberg's right and all his explanation
yeah. So he's like it's very suave.
810
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.199
Yeah, yeah, comes across a
very smooth, very suave, but
811
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:45.320
I think that was like the start. That's I think that was like the
812
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.150
key moment, at least in the
script, that let Sean Parker in even
813
00:45:50.190 --> 00:45:53.750
more and kind of pushed Eduardo Farther
to the side. Yeah, I agree.
814
00:45:53.869 --> 00:45:57.070
Then we go, I think,
then we go to court stuff and
815
00:45:57.110 --> 00:45:59.869
the animal cruelty stuff. It yet, because we kick off it introduces the
816
00:45:59.909 --> 00:46:01.150
Annal cruelty in the court room,
right. Yeah, then we learned what
817
00:46:01.190 --> 00:46:04.300
that means. It's kind of comes
out of nowhere, like he fed the
818
00:46:04.300 --> 00:46:07.739
chicken, chicken, yes, which
I just think this whole sequence is funny.
819
00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:08.699
I don't really know what it has
to do with anything. Yeah,
820
00:46:08.739 --> 00:46:12.340
but I wouldn't, I would I
would say yeah, whether or not to
821
00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:14.500
talk about it now. We can
talk about it later and just set it
822
00:46:14.539 --> 00:46:16.380
up now. But this is when
Ed Wardo kind of gets in trouble with
823
00:46:16.380 --> 00:46:19.730
the finals club, or he gets
kicked out, or he doesn't get accepted
824
00:46:19.809 --> 00:46:22.170
or I don't know what the words
are. I have no idea. I
825
00:46:22.289 --> 00:46:24.570
but didn't know he didn't make the
funs club. Yes, I'm only saying
826
00:46:24.610 --> 00:46:30.610
stories kind of went away of a
little further on. Yeah, but the
827
00:46:30.690 --> 00:46:34.039
whole thing is a story came out
in the Harvard newspaper he fed a chicken
828
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.320
that you had to take care of
for the Finals Club. Yeah, I'm
829
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:42.239
chicken, the animal writes whatever at
Harvard got involved and basically stadded widow after
830
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.239
that. Yeah, so this is
the first deposition scene where we we actually
831
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.550
kind of see Rishta Jones do anything, and what she does is she laughs.
832
00:46:50.070 --> 00:46:52.750
And Yeah, that's my reaction to
this situation too. No, same.
833
00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:54.989
I don't know if it's real.
I don't know if it's real life,
834
00:46:55.070 --> 00:46:59.429
but I better probably is, just
because it's a crimson. I don't
835
00:46:59.469 --> 00:47:00.940
know if he would eat, if
he's if he goes so far or and
836
00:47:00.980 --> 00:47:04.659
so I can go so far as
to make up like things that are easily
837
00:47:04.699 --> 00:47:07.940
verifiable. Yeah, that's true.
I didn't know you couldn't feed chicken a
838
00:47:07.940 --> 00:47:09.940
chicken either, so I never thought
about it. Yeah, it's a chicken.
839
00:47:12.699 --> 00:47:15.699
This is when facebook is really in
big as a hundred thousand members and
840
00:47:15.170 --> 00:47:19.250
at the same time, yeah,
they do the I don't know what they're
841
00:47:19.250 --> 00:47:22.210
doing, but it's basically just the
competition find the new Oh, yes,
842
00:47:22.250 --> 00:47:24.690
so they this is so. Yeah, school's ending. Basically, this is
843
00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:28.849
like the end of the semester now. Yeah, so for the summer they're
844
00:47:28.849 --> 00:47:30.840
going to California. HMM. Sean
Parker said in the meeting, like you
845
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.880
got to come to California point.
Yeah, and so they're looking for interns.
846
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.239
They've found a house and they're looking
for intern so this the competition to
847
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.039
figure out who the interns are going
to be. Welcome to California. Yeah,
848
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.030
great scene. Love the scene.
Yeah, really not very important.
849
00:47:46.030 --> 00:47:49.389
It's just dope. Yeah, it's
it's a lot of extras in the room.
850
00:47:49.389 --> 00:47:52.070
It looks really fun. Yeah,
and and I think the shot and
851
00:47:52.269 --> 00:47:55.949
stuff is cool. Yeah, and
I think it really kind of mirrors how
852
00:47:57.230 --> 00:48:00.739
big Zuckerberg is at this point,
all these people in the room. Yeah,
853
00:48:00.980 --> 00:48:05.980
weird like coding competition and they're they're
they're willing to like get shit faced.
854
00:48:06.139 --> 00:48:08.019
Yeah, and and like go through
kind of this embarrass it. It
855
00:48:08.099 --> 00:48:10.500
seems like a little bit. I
mean it's also like if you win,
856
00:48:10.579 --> 00:48:15.289
you're cool and you're probably up.
But yeah, but they addly just want
857
00:48:15.289 --> 00:48:16.369
to be a part of facebook.
Yeah, and then that's when we go
858
00:48:16.449 --> 00:48:19.650
to California, right, they run
a hout? Yeah, I believe so.
859
00:48:19.849 --> 00:48:22.769
I think there's more. There's more
courts stuff and there's more course stuff,
860
00:48:22.809 --> 00:48:23.769
but I don't really remember what it
is. I think this is the
861
00:48:23.849 --> 00:48:27.159
one. Oh, no, number
mine. It's later. And then,
862
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.480
yeah, we go to La and
it seems like everybody's having fun at Mark
863
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:34.440
Zuckerberg's trying to like he's not smiling. You never smiles, but he's like
864
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.880
recording people having fun, Zip lining
off the chimney into the pool. It's
865
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.590
dope. It's very college. Yeah, which I think is another call back
866
00:48:40.630 --> 00:48:44.590
to how the young they are.
Yeah, well, exactly connect those two
867
00:48:44.590 --> 00:48:46.590
points until you said it. But
yeah, and then, yeah, Nahn
868
00:48:46.670 --> 00:48:51.630
Parker comes to visit. Yes,
so the chimney explodes. Yes, and
869
00:48:51.710 --> 00:48:53.829
then someone comes to the door and
it's Sean Parker, which is Chard Parker.
870
00:48:53.829 --> 00:48:57.260
Knew they were living there. Yeah, I had been at my mind.
871
00:48:57.539 --> 00:49:00.980
had been waiting for an excuse and
then was like fuck, he ass
872
00:49:00.059 --> 00:49:02.860
to soon as this explosion happened.
Yeah, like, that's why he's hanging
873
00:49:02.900 --> 00:49:06.300
out with this girl. We never
see this girl again. He was like
874
00:49:06.460 --> 00:49:07.900
out and think about that. He's
with she lives next door. I think
875
00:49:07.940 --> 00:49:10.889
he's hanging out because he knows marks
live in there. HMM, but maybe
876
00:49:10.969 --> 00:49:15.010
not. Maybe he's he's much less
a nefarious than I'm playing him to know.
877
00:49:15.130 --> 00:49:16.329
I think he is. I just
didn't connect all the dots that you're
878
00:49:16.650 --> 00:49:19.969
connecting right now, but I think
he totally right. I think he is.
879
00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:21.489
I don't know if that's how it
was in real life, but I
880
00:49:21.489 --> 00:49:23.090
think that's totally what Sorkin and Fitch
fincher are now. Yes, as far
881
00:49:23.090 --> 00:49:25.679
as real life, because I feel
like a lot of these like personalities and
882
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.960
characters are kind of creations based,
based around real people, but not like
883
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:31.840
trying to be the real person.
Yeah, definitely, but I think after
884
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.639
this, after he like Walks,
oh, actually, well, the girls
885
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.590
there. There's a part that I
really love, which is just Eisenberg tows
886
00:49:38.630 --> 00:49:42.469
the beer smashes on the wall.
Yes, and then he's like Oh,
887
00:49:42.550 --> 00:49:45.510
sorry about that, and he throw
us another one smashes against the camera.
888
00:49:45.550 --> 00:49:49.590
Yeah, yeah, it's reading social
situation. She clearly doesn't want to be
889
00:49:49.710 --> 00:49:52.860
thrown a beer. Yeah, it's
the ego to I think that you were
890
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:54.860
talking about earlier, and it's kind
of we're peeking, we're getting to the
891
00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:58.380
peak. Yeah, at least there. It's that that's what they're trying to
892
00:49:58.380 --> 00:50:00.380
say to the audience. And then
this is the club. Yes, love
893
00:50:00.500 --> 00:50:02.619
this scene. Okay, let's talk
about it. Let's talk about it.
894
00:50:04.019 --> 00:50:07.010
This is kind of when like it. It's very comparable to the beginning scene
895
00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:09.409
with R anymore, I think,
because it's very loud. Yeah, you
896
00:50:09.409 --> 00:50:13.210
can't really tell what they're saying,
and I'm assuming, since you told me
897
00:50:13.210 --> 00:50:15.409
that they were actually yelling at each
other in the first scene, they might
898
00:50:15.489 --> 00:50:16.730
be doing it here, because you're
yelling here too, but they're not recording
899
00:50:16.769 --> 00:50:20.570
music like they did in the last
one. Okay, fair enough. Why
900
00:50:20.570 --> 00:50:22.679
they chose to not do it here
but did it there? Maybe it just
901
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.320
would be too loud. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, the music's
902
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:28.599
probably just music. Probably harder than
people talking. Probably, oh, because
903
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.760
you'd have to get the music,
would have to be at the same line
904
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.840
every time. And they're saying when
I'm doing the takes. Yeah, yeah,
905
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.510
but this is Sean Parker kind of
laying it out to Jesse Eisenberg or
906
00:50:37.550 --> 00:50:42.829
to mark Zuckerberg. Yright like Zuckerberg
was already on board at the dinner scene.
907
00:50:42.869 --> 00:50:45.429
But this is really where I think
Parker Hooks in. Yeah, you
908
00:50:45.510 --> 00:50:49.829
tells them the Victoria Secret Story.
Yes, great story of like the Guy
909
00:50:50.139 --> 00:50:53.420
Selling too soon, and although I
do think it's good advice that shown park
910
00:50:53.500 --> 00:50:59.219
is giving him. I think it's
just trying to validate him being there with
911
00:50:59.300 --> 00:51:01.579
Mark Zuckerberg at the same time.
Yeah, he's like marks cheerleader. Yeah,
912
00:51:01.780 --> 00:51:05.050
but this is a lot of one
of the things I think is the
913
00:51:05.130 --> 00:51:08.489
difference between Sean Parker and Edwardo,
MMM, is I don't think Edwardo believes
914
00:51:08.530 --> 00:51:12.809
in facebook as much as Sean Parker
does. Like what Shohn Parker really brings
915
00:51:12.929 --> 00:51:15.530
is like this idea of a billion
dollar. This is the biggest thing thing
916
00:51:15.730 --> 00:51:20.199
that's like been invented in a long
time. Yeah, I mean maybe it
917
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.519
still hits the same heights, but
I think a lot of what I get
918
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.559
out of Sean Parker's inclusion is just
the aim higher idea. Interesting, I
919
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.239
see where you're kind of veering off
of Eduardo so here. Yeah, interesting,
920
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.550
okay, and it'll get more as
we go along. Yeah, but
921
00:51:34.590 --> 00:51:37.269
I still think he's the emotional core
of the story. I don't necessarily think
922
00:51:37.269 --> 00:51:40.110
that they're super wrong. Well,
I think they're wrong and what they do
923
00:51:40.230 --> 00:51:45.070
later, but I don't necessarily think
he deserved to be the CFO. HMM.
924
00:51:45.230 --> 00:51:47.739
Yeah, I seege sword, that's
your same next scene why is it
925
00:51:47.860 --> 00:51:51.300
here? We can talk about it. We cut to a boat race.
926
00:51:51.340 --> 00:51:53.099
Yeah, yeah, this is like, apparently, I found this out later,
927
00:51:53.139 --> 00:51:57.579
this is like the super bowl for
rowing of row. Yeah, so
928
00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:00.900
this was a big deal that they
lost this by like a couple inches or
929
00:52:00.940 --> 00:52:02.889
whatever. I just thought it was
a race. I saw I didn't understand.
930
00:52:02.929 --> 00:52:05.849
I mean they have the title card
that says what it is, but
931
00:52:06.409 --> 00:52:09.650
yeah, who knows? Yeah,
exactly. They follow up there like biggest,
932
00:52:10.369 --> 00:52:14.050
like this huge defeat, like you
just lost the Super Bowl by,
933
00:52:14.409 --> 00:52:16.840
you know, a point kind of
thing. Yeah, with Oh yeah,
934
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.000
facebook's here in England too. Yeah, by the way, which is huge
935
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:22.360
because whenever the first time I watched
this, I said, why are we
936
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.079
cutting back? Like I felt like
we had already moved past the winkl bosses
937
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:30.030
and storyliney. Yeah, and then
we cut back here to a very stylized
938
00:52:30.070 --> 00:52:31.429
much differently than the rest of the
film. At least the boat raises,
939
00:52:31.510 --> 00:52:35.909
yeah, I think, which they
are in. They cheated a lot of
940
00:52:35.989 --> 00:52:38.550
this and they shot the actual race. Oh, that's fair. So a
941
00:52:38.590 --> 00:52:42.230
lot of it is the real race
and then the close ups of the winkelbosses
942
00:52:42.269 --> 00:52:45.380
are cheated for a different I'm sure
they're not going as fast. Yeah,
943
00:52:45.940 --> 00:52:49.940
and then you cut to the party
or whatever, the gathering afterward, and
944
00:52:50.019 --> 00:52:52.860
that's when the real oh and a
boom and soundtrack on this race to yes,
945
00:52:53.380 --> 00:52:55.619
I don't know what the I don't
know what the instrumental is, but
946
00:52:55.699 --> 00:52:59.489
it is incredible. Yeah, it
just jazzes you up. Yeah, I
947
00:52:59.969 --> 00:53:01.210
don't care about racing, but this
is fun. This is no, yes,
948
00:53:01.530 --> 00:53:05.170
no, I love this scene.
But yeah, you already hit it.
949
00:53:05.449 --> 00:53:07.730
FACEBOOK's in England, at Oxford,
right. Yeah, yeah, I
950
00:53:07.769 --> 00:53:10.250
think I think so. Yeah,
I think that's where they are, but
951
00:53:10.329 --> 00:53:13.880
it's all old people talking about it, which is interesting. HMM, because
952
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:15.440
at this point where people don't use
facebook now, I mean later, it's
953
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.320
all old people now. I think
at this point it's still college campus.
954
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.480
Is Only right. I think that's
why. Yeah, I think it's it's
955
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:23.599
at Oxford, and I think that's
what the point is. It kind of
956
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.030
brings us back to the winklevosses story, because I really do think that they're
957
00:53:28.030 --> 00:53:30.510
not that important in the scene prior. Yeah, club with Sean Parker,
958
00:53:30.909 --> 00:53:34.829
but here they are again. They're
back in like the frame. They have
959
00:53:34.949 --> 00:53:38.150
their whole their own scene in a
different country. Yes, she's like why?
960
00:53:38.550 --> 00:53:42.460
Well, and also what happens here? The critical moment is like,
961
00:53:42.539 --> 00:53:45.139
up until this we haven't really talked
a lot about their scenes because it was
962
00:53:45.219 --> 00:53:47.139
hard to find stills and there's not
a lot that happens other than they just
963
00:53:47.219 --> 00:53:50.500
kind of repeat the same thing,
which is we need to sue him.
964
00:53:50.500 --> 00:53:52.900
There's our cameron saying no, yeah, and this is the scene where they
965
00:53:52.900 --> 00:53:57.530
finally flip and Cameron is like yeah, Yep, let's got this bastard.
966
00:53:57.570 --> 00:54:00.050
Yeah, they say something like that. Is this the one where that I'm
967
00:54:00.050 --> 00:54:02.250
six five to twenty in there's two
of me. No, that's earlier.
968
00:54:02.329 --> 00:54:07.210
That's earlier. Yeah, for Harvard
lost. It's so man that one another
969
00:54:07.289 --> 00:54:12.559
rent free line six twenty s to
a me man sorkin new we go back
970
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.400
to California, right, okay,
yes, and Sean Parker is given these
971
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.239
girls drinks and let him smoke weed
and stuff it. Warnto shows up,
972
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.199
yes, who doesn't look like he's
been having a very good day. Well,
973
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.829
he shows up and he's said that
he's been doing some sort of internship
974
00:54:24.829 --> 00:54:28.469
in New York. Right, yeah, so was not supposed to be here
975
00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:30.110
and we thought the whole time that
he was doing this internship in New York
976
00:54:30.110 --> 00:54:32.670
and he supposed to be looking for
ad revenue, which I think Sean Parker
977
00:54:32.710 --> 00:54:36.190
makes fun of him a little bit, like you really close to getting something,
978
00:54:36.269 --> 00:54:38.139
bagels or something. Yeah, like
he's talking about how small fish is
979
00:54:38.539 --> 00:54:42.099
advertisers, that he's getting our yeah, but we find out that he was
980
00:54:42.139 --> 00:54:45.340
supposed to get picked up by mark
like hours ago and mark missed it.
981
00:54:45.539 --> 00:54:46.380
He's wired in, wouldn't he?
Yeah, is, and that where we
982
00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:50.300
are. They getting a little fight. He's like super upset the Shaun Parker
983
00:54:50.380 --> 00:54:52.889
is here. Yeah, I mean
I would be too. I don't know
984
00:54:52.929 --> 00:54:55.090
how you feel, I would be
too. I would be super upset.
985
00:54:55.170 --> 00:54:58.849
But this is kind of again where
I fall on, like why aren't you
986
00:54:58.849 --> 00:55:01.449
on in California? Man, it's
interesting. Like that's true, it's right.
987
00:55:01.530 --> 00:55:04.929
This is a big company, man, if you want to be part
988
00:55:04.929 --> 00:55:07.920
of the billion dollar empire, like
you should be doing this instead of what
989
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.880
you're doing. Yeah, but we
find out in the next scene, they
990
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:15.039
cut to them in like the Hallway
talking quietly, that Eduardo quit is internship
991
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.039
the first day and he literally has
been working for ad revenue. But Mark
992
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.039
Zuckerberg doesn't seem to notice that or
care. It's just like you're not here.
993
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.230
So it feels like you're not really
helping. Like out a side,
994
00:55:23.269 --> 00:55:25.269
out of mind. Is kind of, I feel, like the head space
995
00:55:25.309 --> 00:55:29.510
we get in for Mark Zuckerberg.
Yeah, and I think that, even
996
00:55:29.550 --> 00:55:30.949
though we are supposed to, I
like, I still think we're supposed to
997
00:55:30.949 --> 00:55:34.989
feel for Duido. I think it's
kind of thing Sorkins, having the make
998
00:55:34.989 --> 00:55:37.380
valid points back to back and forth. Yeah, that's still what's keeping you
999
00:55:37.619 --> 00:55:42.980
like invested in this relationship, in
this argument. It's kind of ongoing.
1000
00:55:43.179 --> 00:55:45.900
Where is it widow end up after
this? Is this one? He so
1001
00:55:45.139 --> 00:55:50.170
he flies back because he seems like
I think he's pissed. I would be
1002
00:55:50.570 --> 00:55:52.849
to actually, I think what we
see right after this is him go freeze
1003
00:55:52.849 --> 00:55:55.690
the accounts because he finds out Justin
Timber Lake has been setting up meetings.
1004
00:55:55.809 --> 00:56:00.690
Yeah, which is his job.
Yeah, so why is a Sean Parker
1005
00:56:00.730 --> 00:56:02.369
and not just really guess? Why? Sean Parkerd doing my job? Yeah,
1006
00:56:02.449 --> 00:56:06.559
which fair, fair point, Bro. Why is he doing your job?
1007
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.239
Yeah, so then, yeah,
he freezes the account and then goes
1008
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:14.480
back and then I think the next
scene that we see is John Parker and
1009
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.389
Mark Zuckerberg like going in to talk
to the Hedge Fund that's gonna put up
1010
00:56:19.429 --> 00:56:23.030
some money? Yeah, which is
ridiculous if you think about like Eduardo put
1011
00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:27.750
in like what Nineteenzero and got thirty
percent of the company, and I think
1012
00:56:27.750 --> 00:56:30.230
they're putting in like five hundred million
for like eight percent or something. Yeah,
1013
00:56:30.710 --> 00:56:35.099
like, yeah, that's true.
But we get the the super famous
1014
00:56:35.219 --> 00:56:38.739
like line at the end before it
cuts, which is WHO's Edwardros avereign?
1015
00:56:39.500 --> 00:56:44.780
Yeah, and then it hard cut
out to Eduardo at his apartment. Yeah,
1016
00:56:44.860 --> 00:56:45.820
and I think at this point,
you know off fuck, he's fucked.
1017
00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:49.809
Yeah, because he's not there.
Yeah, basically. Yeah, and
1018
00:56:49.889 --> 00:56:52.329
then we cut. Is this when
Brenda Song comes back? Amazing. I
1019
00:56:52.489 --> 00:56:54.050
think this is just like Renaissan,
doesn't mean anything, like I said,
1020
00:56:54.050 --> 00:56:58.690
it's just a reactionary to what facebook
has become. Edwardo doesn't really know she
1021
00:56:58.889 --> 00:57:01.280
is. She lights stuff on fire, she's gone crazy. I think it's
1022
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.639
great. She's fucking scary in this. Oh yeah, it's so good.
1023
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:07.840
I don't know what she's like in
Zach and cody. I mean I've I
1024
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.039
watched that show as a kid,
but like I don't. Those things don't
1025
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:13.920
like stick in my mind. Now
that's girl. Yeah, that's fair.
1026
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:15.989
This the opposite. Yeah, so
I think it is like a big like
1027
00:57:16.110 --> 00:57:19.710
we're gonna get her and she's not
going to be what people expect. Yeah,
1028
00:57:19.710 --> 00:57:22.789
out of a thing, I think
I saw something worth. Fincher was
1029
00:57:22.829 --> 00:57:25.349
talking about casting her and he cast
her based on like the first Taypie saw
1030
00:57:25.510 --> 00:57:29.429
that she sent in Nice and he
was like, Oh wow, she's fierce,
1031
00:57:29.630 --> 00:57:31.820
she's scary, like she'll fit.
I think this scene is really good.
1032
00:57:31.940 --> 00:57:35.340
But yeah, she's terrifying in this
scene. Yeah, at the same
1033
00:57:35.380 --> 00:57:37.980
time, he liked buys her a
scarf and whatever, and she's like have
1034
00:57:38.059 --> 00:57:40.139
you ever seen me were a scarf, and he's like this is your first,
1035
00:57:40.300 --> 00:57:45.489
like you gotta really care. Whatever. was trying to be nice,
1036
00:57:45.530 --> 00:57:49.769
I don't know. But but yeah, the whole relationship status argument, which
1037
00:57:49.769 --> 00:57:52.449
I guess is what you're saying,
is a it's about facebook. Yeah,
1038
00:57:52.530 --> 00:57:54.849
I think so, but the facebook
group he's they don't care about their relationship
1039
00:57:54.889 --> 00:57:58.880
status. Right, the Silicon Valley
slots. That's what it is. That's
1040
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.760
what it is. Yeah, great, turn a phrase. Well, he's
1041
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.239
talking on the phone with mark at
the same time, which just adds to
1042
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:07.480
the craziness of this whole scene.
Yes, which I think at this point
1043
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.519
marks like hey, come to come
back. We he tells him about the
1044
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.510
Hedge Fund deal. Yeah, like
we got five hundred million, or whatever
1045
00:58:13.590 --> 00:58:15.429
the number is. The number is, yeah, it's gonna end up being
1046
00:58:15.469 --> 00:58:19.309
like five hundred thousand, and I'm
just like going, well, crazy work,
1047
00:58:19.349 --> 00:58:22.150
but it were. Yeah, it's
a lot more money than they have.
1048
00:58:22.389 --> 00:58:25.190
Yes, so he's like come back
to California, and then he's like,
1049
00:58:27.030 --> 00:58:30.260
and I like the the line when
he says and also I'm breaking up
1050
00:58:30.260 --> 00:58:32.179
with you at the very end,
because he seems very scared, like even
1051
00:58:32.219 --> 00:58:35.659
what he says that. Yeah,
like it's he's like it looks like he's
1052
00:58:35.860 --> 00:58:38.980
pretending to be confident, like but
don't hurt me. Yeah, but then
1053
00:58:39.019 --> 00:58:42.849
that's when, this is when we're
getting to like the movie. Yeah,
1054
00:58:42.969 --> 00:58:45.210
like this is when we're actually starting
to finish up some stuff, right,
1055
00:58:45.250 --> 00:58:46.769
because he does go out to California. Yeah, we're in the third act
1056
00:58:46.809 --> 00:58:50.650
now. Yes, or the resolution, yes, court room, where he's
1057
00:58:50.650 --> 00:58:52.769
like, I didn't know my company
was going to screw me here, whatever.
1058
00:58:52.849 --> 00:58:54.530
Yeah, I think it. We
get that he gets screwed before he
1059
00:58:54.530 --> 00:58:58.719
actually get screpped. Happens? Yeah, and then I think we get the
1060
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.559
Pajama curse line with yes number,
like I think that's this scene. Yeah,
1061
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.079
which is you said this was their
use of the F rod right.
1062
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:07.920
No, no, this is not
it. This wasn't what I was thinking.
1063
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.469
Is it here? I do they
do used to? Maybe they used
1064
00:59:10.469 --> 00:59:13.510
to, because I'm pretty sure they
use it here when he's like, oh,
1065
00:59:13.630 --> 00:59:15.590
go up and talk to whatever,
and then when you get in the
1066
00:59:15.670 --> 00:59:17.909
meeting, say, Sean Parker says
fuck you. Yeah, I do remember.
1067
00:59:19.349 --> 00:59:22.150
Yep, just in pajamas. Yes, so I guess he does it.
1068
00:59:22.309 --> 00:59:23.340
I mean we don't see it.
I think this is a good example
1069
00:59:23.380 --> 00:59:28.420
of showing like how kind of a
control Sean Parker has over Mark Zuckerberg.
1070
00:59:28.460 --> 00:59:30.019
Huse do it's like an older brother. Yeah, yeah, like, yeah,
1071
00:59:30.099 --> 00:59:31.820
well, he kind of enjoys it. Like, yeah, it's like
1072
00:59:31.900 --> 00:59:35.460
they both what they have in common, I think, is like anarchy,
1073
00:59:35.619 --> 00:59:37.460
like they both fuck the power.
Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg and Shawan part,
1074
00:59:37.500 --> 00:59:40.889
which I don't think Duardo has,
like he's very much like the record towers
1075
00:59:42.050 --> 00:59:45.090
one in the courts, like yeah, this is bad. Like, yes,
1076
00:59:45.530 --> 00:59:49.130
Edwardo is very like by the system. And Yeah, both of these
1077
00:59:49.170 --> 00:59:53.719
characters are like fuck the system,
Ye know. Essentially, then the best
1078
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.000
scene. Yeah, I'll let you
talk. Okay, run US through.
1079
00:59:58.039 --> 00:60:02.719
This is this is when. So
it's facebook has a headquarters now, right.
1080
00:60:02.719 --> 00:60:07.510
Yeah, more or less, and
Eduardo has just has come in to
1081
00:60:07.630 --> 00:60:10.949
sign some papers. I don't know
what exactly the papers are. I don't
1082
00:60:10.989 --> 00:60:15.949
know what the the like they're.
There's something just saying that he I don't
1083
00:60:15.949 --> 00:60:17.989
know exactly what it is, but
if he finds out that they've diluted his
1084
00:60:19.909 --> 00:60:24.460
stock shares down till yeah, oh, there's something. I forgot to preface
1085
00:60:24.500 --> 00:60:29.420
this. Another reason leading up to
this that I'm not proudwardo. No,
1086
00:60:29.539 --> 00:60:31.780
I'm still provide Wardo, but I
but because I don't think he deserved what
1087
00:60:31.820 --> 00:60:35.019
he got. Okay, but I
don't think he deserved to be see off
1088
00:60:35.059 --> 00:60:37.730
o the company. Okay, is
they've got this warehouse set up and Markus
1089
00:60:37.730 --> 00:60:42.289
Zarckerberg's leaving school and Edwardo is going
back to school. Yes, like he's
1090
00:60:42.329 --> 00:60:45.289
leaving. He's leaving facebook to go
back to school. I think that is
1091
00:60:45.289 --> 00:60:49.329
important, which I think shows like
a either a lack of belief, for
1092
00:60:49.409 --> 00:60:52.000
it's like we were talking about earlier, like following by the rules, yell
1093
00:60:52.079 --> 00:60:54.000
system. Yeah, but I think
he kind of fucked himself there. Yeah,
1094
00:60:54.039 --> 00:60:58.719
like not only freezing the money,
but also like leaving when they got
1095
00:60:58.840 --> 00:61:01.840
this. Yeah, but he finds
out that his basically his shares are just
1096
00:61:01.880 --> 00:61:06.269
diluted, it down to nothing.
Yeah, and so he walks out of
1097
00:61:06.309 --> 00:61:08.230
the point zero zero three percent.
Yeah, he walks out of the office,
1098
00:61:08.429 --> 00:61:13.510
he finds mark, Sean Parker is
there, of course, and they
1099
00:61:13.550 --> 00:61:17.309
have basically this confrontation and boy,
like why it happened. Oh, but
1100
00:61:17.739 --> 00:61:22.059
let's talk about mark being wired in
and how he gets from Oh yeah,
1101
00:61:22.300 --> 00:61:24.659
he he just smashes the laptop right
in front of him. It's great,
1102
00:61:24.900 --> 00:61:28.139
man, this is probably one of
my favorite scenes of the of the past
1103
00:61:28.179 --> 00:61:30.219
decade. Oh yeah, he's a
Lakery and then Wardo gives it here,
1104
00:61:30.260 --> 00:61:34.050
man, or Andrew gives it a
guess I should he does. Yeah,
1105
00:61:34.650 --> 00:61:37.010
but like we talked about chicken part
earlier, and I feel like this is
1106
00:61:37.090 --> 00:61:39.969
when it comes back around. I
feel like it's actually important to this.
1107
00:61:40.369 --> 00:61:44.610
Okay, yeah, because it it
were to out like questions whether or not
1108
00:61:44.650 --> 00:61:49.000
mark planted the story about the chicken
in the Harvard newspaper. Yeah, and
1109
00:61:49.480 --> 00:61:52.119
maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but it's puts that doubt in the
1110
00:61:52.199 --> 00:61:54.920
audience mind. I think reference that
later too. Yes, I feel like
1111
00:61:54.960 --> 00:61:59.360
that's the most important bit with mark. But then he also goes against Sean
1112
00:61:59.559 --> 00:62:01.510
the same time. Oh Yeah,
Andrew goes again. Sean, yes,
1113
00:62:01.550 --> 00:62:04.550
Edward, yeah, it, water
goes again, Shawn. He kind of
1114
00:62:04.590 --> 00:62:06.869
just goes again, like he just
kind of ends it with both of them
1115
00:62:06.909 --> 00:62:08.110
right here. Yeah, I think
it's great and he kind of gets it
1116
00:62:08.110 --> 00:62:12.190
all out and then we this is
all happening. John is a huge Dick
1117
00:62:12.269 --> 00:62:15.099
in this obvious scene. Totally they
mark's kind of handling it and his like
1118
00:62:15.260 --> 00:62:17.820
mark way of like not talking.
Yeah, I kind of see like a
1119
00:62:17.860 --> 00:62:21.539
little maybe I'm reading too much into
it, because I buy this point.
1120
00:62:21.579 --> 00:62:23.219
I kind of like mark a little
bit. Okay, reading in like he
1121
00:62:23.260 --> 00:62:25.300
kind of feels bad for what he's
doing. Yeah, so, like,
1122
00:62:25.780 --> 00:62:29.579
Hey, man, like you went
back to school. You know, you
1123
00:62:29.619 --> 00:62:32.369
you froze the money. You made
a lot of bad decisions this last month.
1124
00:62:32.409 --> 00:62:35.929
Yeah, yeah, and I feel
like during the scene to the editing
1125
00:62:36.010 --> 00:62:37.849
is very quick, very fast paced, and it cuts to everybody who's actually
1126
00:62:37.889 --> 00:62:40.369
talking, like nobody cut nobody talks
off screen. Yeah, I think.
1127
00:62:42.409 --> 00:62:45.159
And it cuts to like Sean Parker
is just kind of interjecting a lot of
1128
00:62:45.239 --> 00:62:47.519
it. Yeah, it cuts to
him every time and I'm like why is
1129
00:62:47.599 --> 00:62:51.880
this happening? But he's still like
a third of the of the third of
1130
00:62:51.920 --> 00:62:53.119
the scene. I think that's really
important. The same time, what makes
1131
00:62:53.119 --> 00:62:55.199
it feel like he's butting in?
Yes, it's a kind of like,
1132
00:62:55.320 --> 00:62:59.349
which is what he's been doing the
entire movie. Yes, just his role
1133
00:62:59.469 --> 00:63:00.789
and I feel like it bothered me
the first time I watched it, but
1134
00:63:00.909 --> 00:63:05.150
now I'm like, oh, that's
perfect, that's exactly who what it is.
1135
00:63:05.269 --> 00:63:07.590
Yeah, it's what this that it's
just a the whole movie and a
1136
00:63:07.710 --> 00:63:13.860
span of two minutes or whatever.
And then he, like Sean Parker,
1137
00:63:14.420 --> 00:63:15.780
it, acts like a Dick just
to be a dick. At this one
1138
00:63:15.860 --> 00:63:20.019
point, like he tries to give
him a check for the Nineteenzero back,
1139
00:63:20.460 --> 00:63:22.099
but he's like, but I don't
cash it because it's out of your account.
1140
00:63:22.139 --> 00:63:25.380
Yeah, so it's not even the
check. It's it seems like a
1141
00:63:25.460 --> 00:63:29.530
smart like a Boston if he's got
six percent of the company he's got nineteen
1142
00:63:29.530 --> 00:63:31.730
Thos, like yeah, it's still
would have been a Duche move, but
1143
00:63:31.769 --> 00:63:36.170
a little more commendable of a Douche
move if it was actually nineteenzero from his
1144
00:63:36.210 --> 00:63:37.250
account. Yeah, like sure,
and here you go. Yeah, I
1145
00:63:37.369 --> 00:63:40.840
know you got lost, but it's
still like a fuck you in the millions
1146
00:63:40.880 --> 00:63:45.440
of for money he could have made, for sure, but it's just it
1147
00:63:45.559 --> 00:63:46.960
seems it seems a little overboard to
me. I was like, AH,
1148
00:63:47.000 --> 00:63:51.719
come on, Sean. Yeah,
while this is all happening to it's they're
1149
00:63:51.760 --> 00:63:55.429
celebrating their millionth account to isn't it? Yeah, which is a big time.
1150
00:63:55.590 --> 00:63:58.829
Now. Yes, and I don't
know if that's exactly the way it
1151
00:63:58.869 --> 00:64:02.070
happened, but it's perfect timing,
you know, for a big milestone and
1152
00:64:02.269 --> 00:64:05.230
partisans, I says. That's why
he's come and there's a business meeting and
1153
00:64:05.389 --> 00:64:09.429
then a party afterwards. Yes,
because they expect to hit a million.
1154
00:64:09.550 --> 00:64:12.179
Yeah, they're right, and obviously
the business meeting didn't go very well,
1155
00:64:12.300 --> 00:64:15.260
not very well, not very well, and that's a great shot. To
1156
00:64:15.539 --> 00:64:18.579
like it, it is it during
the scene, he's right out there.
1157
00:64:18.619 --> 00:64:21.539
They could this is a position,
this is a yeah, I think is
1158
00:64:21.579 --> 00:64:25.289
inter cut throughout. It's before this
and it's after and it's after. I
1159
00:64:25.329 --> 00:64:28.570
don't think they cut during any of
the conflict. Yes, it, but
1160
00:64:28.650 --> 00:64:30.969
it cuts to that shot that you
had earlier, a little bit of Bit
1161
00:64:30.969 --> 00:64:34.010
Bardo and facing the window, facing
away from Mark, saying how like it's
1162
00:64:34.210 --> 00:64:38.639
the the whoever's in charge, his
lawyer, I guess. Yeah, asks
1163
00:64:38.719 --> 00:64:43.239
how how much each marks diluted,
and then how much seans was diluted in
1164
00:64:43.239 --> 00:64:45.760
their both zero, and then asked. I think this is actually chronologically.
1165
00:64:45.760 --> 00:64:48.800
I think which I thought was interesting
is that it plays before. I think
1166
00:64:48.880 --> 00:64:51.239
does it? I think it plays
before. I think we know that there's
1167
00:64:51.360 --> 00:64:54.590
there's isn't diluted, but we don't
hear his numbers. You're right. In
1168
00:64:54.590 --> 00:64:58.110
then N it comes in. Yeah, and I was your best friend.
1169
00:64:58.150 --> 00:65:00.670
I don't know if that's it's the
same courtroom part. I don't know if
1170
00:65:00.710 --> 00:65:03.429
it's cut later or cut at before. Yeah, I really like I was
1171
00:65:03.469 --> 00:65:06.539
really order. I was your only
friend. Yeah, and I love that
1172
00:65:06.619 --> 00:65:10.619
line too. That's a great one. Totally. It's a very simple line,
1173
00:65:10.619 --> 00:65:12.860
but I think I just love the
way it's performed and at this part
1174
00:65:12.900 --> 00:65:15.659
I'm like God, Andrew Man,
he's so good. Yeah, he's so
1175
00:65:15.860 --> 00:65:19.300
good. And then we go cook
main party. Right. Yeah, surprisingly
1176
00:65:19.340 --> 00:65:23.730
the scene goes on a lot longer
after Edward leaves. HMM, Sean and
1177
00:65:23.769 --> 00:65:28.409
marking about I'm CEO Bitch Business Card
to yeah, but then he talks about
1178
00:65:28.409 --> 00:65:31.329
the party. And then we go
to the party, which is the cocaine
1179
00:65:31.369 --> 00:65:34.489
party, cocaine party which, of
course gets busted by the COPS. Yep,
1180
00:65:34.530 --> 00:65:41.440
John Parkins in trouble. Yes,
there and we get everything. We
1181
00:65:41.559 --> 00:65:44.639
get an example of everything that Edwardo
had said in, I think in the
1182
00:65:44.679 --> 00:65:46.880
court room, yeah, the deposition
when we first, not one our first
1183
00:65:46.880 --> 00:65:49.829
introduced Sean Parker, but when their
first introduced to Seohn Parker. Yeah,
1184
00:65:50.110 --> 00:65:54.110
like to set up that business meeting. He talks about how he's paranoid and
1185
00:65:54.869 --> 00:65:58.949
he thinks people are sending them up
and he's does drugs and is with underage
1186
00:65:58.989 --> 00:66:02.710
women. Yeah, and so all
of that plays out right here and I
1187
00:66:02.829 --> 00:66:05.860
think you kind of when he's on
the phone with well, I guess we'll
1188
00:66:05.860 --> 00:66:10.340
talk about the actual thing. It
smart dude. He rubs the cocaine away
1189
00:66:10.739 --> 00:66:14.139
and tries to rub it in his
hair. Still like doesn't get it all
1190
00:66:14.179 --> 00:66:15.579
out of his hand. Yeah,
that's I thought that was interested. It
1191
00:66:15.699 --> 00:66:17.730
is. Yeah, it's like,
Oh, this guy's try to hide this
1192
00:66:17.809 --> 00:66:23.769
Bene W. Yeah, and then
they're all like one twenty one, which
1193
00:66:24.010 --> 00:66:27.610
how the fuck did one of them
not say twenty two just to like give
1194
00:66:27.809 --> 00:66:30.769
someone all over rock it? Yeah, but then they get caught for underage
1195
00:66:30.809 --> 00:66:34.599
and he gets arrested. But I
think in this phone call that Shawn has
1196
00:66:34.679 --> 00:66:40.079
to mark Zuckerberg, we get this
kind of realization and mark that he has
1197
00:66:40.119 --> 00:66:43.920
all these things that Andrew said yeah
or that Edwardo said yeah, which it
1198
00:66:44.039 --> 00:66:46.349
kind of plays like to me is
like the death of their relationship. Put
1199
00:66:46.389 --> 00:66:49.230
it's not, because he still owns
seven percent of facebook. We find out
1200
00:66:49.269 --> 00:66:53.750
of and shown Parker's relationship. Yeah, but I think from this point on
1201
00:66:53.829 --> 00:66:57.190
they're not bfs anymore. Is what
the H he's kind of intending like it's
1202
00:66:57.230 --> 00:67:00.389
still part of facebook, but then
he's not. He'd not as powerful as
1203
00:67:00.429 --> 00:67:02.539
he was before this event. You're
right. Yeah, and then we cut
1204
00:67:02.619 --> 00:67:05.300
to the present day, right,
which kind of where we end up to
1205
00:67:05.380 --> 00:67:08.940
note that it's like he's twenty five
at this point. Yeah, paired to
1206
00:67:08.980 --> 00:67:11.300
nineteen, so this is quite a
few years later. You don't really get
1207
00:67:11.300 --> 00:67:14.579
it because people don't age that much
as teenagers to yeah, it's twenty five.
1208
00:67:14.619 --> 00:67:16.889
Yeah, but this is kind of
where like, I feel like what
1209
00:67:16.929 --> 00:67:20.730
you're talking about earlier with Rascheta Jones. Yeah, that's really where it comes
1210
00:67:20.769 --> 00:67:26.130
around, and I could see like
this is where David fincher and Aaron Sorkin
1211
00:67:26.170 --> 00:67:29.409
are kind of being optimistic about Mark
Zuckerberg. Yeah, so I think there's
1212
00:67:29.409 --> 00:67:32.199
two things going on here. From
my research, I think that Aaron Sworkin
1213
00:67:32.239 --> 00:67:35.400
doesn't like Bark Zuckerberg, okay,
and I think David fincher's a big fan
1214
00:67:35.480 --> 00:67:39.920
of Mark Zuckerberg. I'd agree.
So we get these like lines that are
1215
00:67:40.079 --> 00:67:43.599
playing opposite, but we get this
direction that's kind of like yeah, but
1216
00:67:44.079 --> 00:67:45.590
in opposition of, I think,
of his perspective. But I don't think
1217
00:67:45.590 --> 00:67:49.550
so far it's just kind of more
trying to play gray hey versus. The
1218
00:67:49.630 --> 00:67:54.429
script is is more black and white. Yeah, more, I guess,
1219
00:67:54.630 --> 00:67:57.230
negative towards him. Yes, I'd
agree, but I think that's where it
1220
00:67:57.230 --> 00:68:00.420
ends off for the most part.
And then we find out that, I
1221
00:68:00.500 --> 00:68:01.940
think, yeah, this where everybody
ends up the end. Yeah, pretty
1222
00:68:01.940 --> 00:68:06.099
much, which is I forgot what
they're talking about this just kind of summary
1223
00:68:06.099 --> 00:68:09.340
of the movie. They just have
a conversation. Oh, it's like why
1224
00:68:09.380 --> 00:68:12.380
do you hate the winklevosses? Yeah, I think that might happen earlier,
1225
00:68:12.380 --> 00:68:14.769
but either way he's like I don't
hate them, which is another thing that
1226
00:68:14.849 --> 00:68:16.369
I like, I believe, when
he says that, which is kind of
1227
00:68:16.489 --> 00:68:20.449
more why this turn this time around? I liked the way Mark Zuckerberg more.
1228
00:68:20.890 --> 00:68:24.770
Okay, that's because he's like,
I don't hate the winkelboss has I?
1229
00:68:25.050 --> 00:68:27.720
He's like, I hate the fact
that I'm wasting my time here and
1230
00:68:27.800 --> 00:68:30.319
not at facebook. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, and he doesn't.
1231
00:68:30.760 --> 00:68:33.439
I think he's wrong in the fact
that he doesn't see how they contributed
1232
00:68:33.520 --> 00:68:38.760
to facebook. MMM, but I
think he just sees it that way.
1233
00:68:38.760 --> 00:68:41.470
I don't think he's trying to be
a dick. Yes, like, I
1234
00:68:41.590 --> 00:68:44.109
agree. I think he's just just
the way it is his yeah, in
1235
00:68:44.229 --> 00:68:47.710
his brain they didn't contribute to facebook. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, this
1236
00:68:47.869 --> 00:68:51.430
movie is brilliant. Yeah, I
think because it's truly just people talking for
1237
00:68:51.510 --> 00:68:56.380
two hours, which isn't something we
get very often anymore. Yeah, and
1238
00:68:56.420 --> 00:69:00.579
especially not like something that's as popular
as this or is timely is this,
1239
00:69:00.699 --> 00:69:03.899
I guess. Do you think they'll
ever make a social network to like covering
1240
00:69:04.020 --> 00:69:08.020
the event what's happened since, because
I feel like it's I don't think that's
1241
00:69:08.020 --> 00:69:11.369
stuff is interesting. Really. Okay? Yeah, is the creation, I
1242
00:69:11.489 --> 00:69:14.810
think, like what facebook's become is
interesting, I guess. But this is
1243
00:69:14.930 --> 00:69:18.090
like a story about people. Yeah, more so than what they invented.
1244
00:69:18.130 --> 00:69:23.090
Yeah, right, what they invented
is important. Yeah, but it's I
1245
00:69:23.210 --> 00:69:26.439
think a lot of it is like
the betrayal of a best friend. Is
1246
00:69:26.680 --> 00:69:31.760
this success of this movie? It's
like the influence of celebrity, I guess,
1247
00:69:31.840 --> 00:69:35.319
like Sean Parker's yeah, truly.
Yeah, like there's I think there's
1248
00:69:35.359 --> 00:69:39.869
a lot in this movie that a
sequel probably wouldn't have, I guess.
1249
00:69:39.949 --> 00:69:43.069
Yeah, yeah, Soda. I
don't know, because they've already succeed.
1250
00:69:43.109 --> 00:69:45.909
It's already a giant business. What
is the different between like social network two
1251
00:69:45.949 --> 00:69:48.949
in Wall Street or something? That's
true. That's true. What. Okay,
1252
00:69:48.989 --> 00:69:51.350
so what do you think? So
you see, you I'd agree with
1253
00:69:51.430 --> 00:69:57.260
you that Sorkin hate Suckerberg and fincher
likes him, or maybe respects him as
1254
00:69:57.300 --> 00:70:00.060
a better word. Yeah, how
do you think that? How do you
1255
00:70:00.140 --> 00:70:01.579
think then this movie, like,
do you think so? Do you think
1256
00:70:01.579 --> 00:70:04.140
Sorkin and fincher talked about that are
do you think fincher just truly did his
1257
00:70:04.180 --> 00:70:06.649
own thing? No, I think
they talked about it. Actually found out
1258
00:70:06.970 --> 00:70:11.609
I did some research on like how
they got ready for this movie. Yeah,
1259
00:70:11.810 --> 00:70:14.729
and they had two weeks of rehearsal, which is like, but it
1260
00:70:14.810 --> 00:70:16.369
was basically just a table read in
a room and it was Aaron Sorkin,
1261
00:70:16.409 --> 00:70:19.130
David Fincher and then whoever was in
that scene, okay, and the actors
1262
00:70:19.210 --> 00:70:21.960
would read the scenes, but they
weren't rehearsing what the scenes were. David
1263
00:70:21.960 --> 00:70:25.640
fincher was like why is this and
here, why is this? And the
1264
00:70:25.760 --> 00:70:28.600
script? Yeah, yeah, it
was awesome. They literally talked about every
1265
00:70:29.720 --> 00:70:32.079
every word and every motivation. HM, he was like trying to figure out
1266
00:70:32.079 --> 00:70:34.680
every beat of the movie and he's
like, okay, so when he's saying
1267
00:70:34.710 --> 00:70:38.590
this, he's thinking this and this
is his l interest, going through the
1268
00:70:38.670 --> 00:70:42.630
subtext, and I thought that was
I like I heard Jesse Eisenberg talk about
1269
00:70:42.630 --> 00:70:44.149
and he was like yeah, we
had a lot of rehearsals, but it
1270
00:70:44.229 --> 00:70:45.710
didn't really I just would say the
lines and then sit there and wait as
1271
00:70:45.710 --> 00:70:48.630
they talked forever and then say the
lines again, like it wasn't really an
1272
00:70:48.630 --> 00:70:53.180
actress rehearsal. Yeah, it was
really just them figuring out what this movie
1273
00:70:53.260 --> 00:70:56.380
was going to be. So I
think they have a lot of discussions and
1274
00:70:56.579 --> 00:71:00.300
what I saw that of like him, be of David Fincher, being like
1275
00:71:00.460 --> 00:71:03.729
this is where I agree with with
mark here and I and this is why
1276
00:71:03.729 --> 00:71:05.810
I like this line the way it
is here, or this is why I
1277
00:71:05.850 --> 00:71:10.130
think the should slightly change or something
that makes sense. So I think they
1278
00:71:10.170 --> 00:71:13.130
had these conversations. I just think
they have slightly different views. Yeah,
1279
00:71:13.649 --> 00:71:16.090
I'd agree. I definitely I see
it. I think that another big part
1280
00:71:16.090 --> 00:71:18.600
that we completely left out was that
we talked about it in the awards.
1281
00:71:18.680 --> 00:71:21.439
But the score of this movie.
Oh, yeah, it's great. It's
1282
00:71:21.439 --> 00:71:27.000
so good and I think it really
plays into this, into the because it's
1283
00:71:27.039 --> 00:71:31.869
kind of it's not like your traditional
strings, yeah, and and and brass
1284
00:71:31.909 --> 00:71:35.430
score. It's very much it's a
lot of like piano. And look,
1285
00:71:35.510 --> 00:71:39.069
it's a lot of piano, a
lots are yeah, and it fits in
1286
00:71:39.189 --> 00:71:42.670
what's going on because it's never ever
that loud. It's never really I guess
1287
00:71:42.710 --> 00:71:45.470
it's evoking some sort of emotion during
the scene, but I feel like you
1288
00:71:45.510 --> 00:71:47.100
never really notice it. No,
it's kind of like an engine that's driving
1289
00:71:47.140 --> 00:71:51.060
in the background. Yeah, which
is just another part of why this is
1290
00:71:51.100 --> 00:71:55.500
so great. I don't know what
else. Do you have anything else?
1291
00:71:55.819 --> 00:71:58.380
Yeah, I think I have a
lot of thought. Well, I want
1292
00:71:58.380 --> 00:72:00.939
to talk about the courtroom stuff,
because it was hard to talk about it
1293
00:72:00.020 --> 00:72:02.529
as it when because I didn't know
where it went. Yeah, but there's
1294
00:72:02.529 --> 00:72:04.930
a lot of little stuff that Jesse
Eisenberg does that I really like. I
1295
00:72:05.050 --> 00:72:10.970
love that he's doodling, yes,
and it's pretty far into the movie,
1296
00:72:11.010 --> 00:72:13.569
I think, when he finally pulls
the page up and we see that he's
1297
00:72:13.609 --> 00:72:15.800
been doodling the whole time. But
he's been like drawing, yeah, a
1298
00:72:15.840 --> 00:72:20.039
lot throughout. And I like the
the attention part when he's like do I
1299
00:72:20.119 --> 00:72:24.560
have your complete attention? Oh,
and he says no, no, yeah,
1300
00:72:24.840 --> 00:72:27.640
I'm under oath, so I have
a legal obligation to say no,
1301
00:72:27.960 --> 00:72:30.430
yes, you have part of my
attention. Yeah, like the minimum out
1302
00:72:30.510 --> 00:72:35.270
required. Yeah, it's very and
it's very dickish and it's very rude,
1303
00:72:35.270 --> 00:72:39.149
but I think it also gives a
lot of insight into him and he's like
1304
00:72:39.270 --> 00:72:43.109
he's frustrated that he's here. Yeah, because he doesn't bullieve either these.
1305
00:72:43.390 --> 00:72:45.020
Well, I think more so this
one is in the Winkel boss one.
1306
00:72:45.100 --> 00:72:49.180
Yeah, I think the winklevoss ones, he he doesn't think they should be
1307
00:72:49.220 --> 00:72:53.060
here at all in this court should
exist. I think he's wrong. I
1308
00:72:53.300 --> 00:72:57.180
think they that, you know,
based be something. They should get compensated
1309
00:72:57.300 --> 00:73:00.170
someway. Yeah, just because he
let him on even less than the idea.
1310
00:73:00.369 --> 00:73:01.770
Sure, the emails he didn't like
back out right away like Ay,
1311
00:73:01.770 --> 00:73:06.449
I'm going to do my own thing. Yeah, but and then yeah,
1312
00:73:08.170 --> 00:73:11.050
right, but he's so he's very
frustrated and done with that. And then
1313
00:73:11.090 --> 00:73:15.319
the I think the tension in the
Edwardo ones which separates them is it's not
1314
00:73:15.399 --> 00:73:16.680
that he doesn't think it Wardo deserves
to be here and get money. I
1315
00:73:16.720 --> 00:73:21.119
think it's that he's just super upset
that his best friend and is now fighting
1316
00:73:21.159 --> 00:73:26.439
or whatever. Yeah, then even
I think he's slightly regrets that he fucked
1317
00:73:26.479 --> 00:73:29.149
his best friend. And Yeah,
I'd agree with you. I think I
1318
00:73:29.189 --> 00:73:30.869
read it in a lot of ways
is like because that other guy brings up
1319
00:73:30.869 --> 00:73:34.550
like hey, who's Edwardo saveragn and
it cuts. I think my idea of
1320
00:73:35.149 --> 00:73:40.550
like how this kind of played out
is like Mark Zuckerberg's like or they're like
1321
00:73:40.949 --> 00:73:43.699
hey, man, you can keep
doing this the indie grass roots way that
1322
00:73:44.659 --> 00:73:46.899
Edwardo's doing, or you can have
five hundred million dollars and yeah, we
1323
00:73:47.020 --> 00:73:49.539
can do this the big boy way. Yeah, and he's kind of like
1324
00:73:49.659 --> 00:73:53.340
put to the choice of would you
rather have your friend have, you know,
1325
00:73:53.579 --> 00:73:58.090
thirty percent of a little tiny company
or less of a bigger company?
1326
00:73:58.170 --> 00:74:00.970
Yeah, I think it's funny too
that we I don't think it's his idea.
1327
00:74:00.130 --> 00:74:02.569
No, I agree with you.
I think it's funny too that Edwardos
1328
00:74:02.649 --> 00:74:06.369
really doing like a what it Wardos
chasing for the most of the movie.
1329
00:74:06.409 --> 00:74:10.600
The add revenue is like where facebook
makes their money. Now. Oh yeah,
1330
00:74:11.760 --> 00:74:13.760
I don't know if that's the way
it in twenty twen. I really
1331
00:74:13.760 --> 00:74:15.760
don't know much about the site of
facebook. Yeah, I don't know how
1332
00:74:15.800 --> 00:74:18.920
it made its money. I mean
they have a really nice office, which
1333
00:74:18.920 --> 00:74:21.920
I guess could just be the donation
from the Hedge Fund, but it's also
1334
00:74:23.039 --> 00:74:27.149
like they might be a have gotten
ad revenue by this point. I don't
1335
00:74:27.149 --> 00:74:30.270
know, maybe, but I think
that's that's but yeah, Edwardo was right
1336
00:74:30.350 --> 00:74:33.750
as far as generating revenue. Yeah, which isn't something they ever really circle
1337
00:74:33.869 --> 00:74:39.100
back to because I maybe I don't
know if it's in two thousand and ten
1338
00:74:39.819 --> 00:74:44.779
people knew, yeah, but certainly
in twenty now and probably two thousand and
1339
00:74:44.779 --> 00:74:47.500
fifteen on. So the like that. One thing about the end is the
1340
00:74:47.539 --> 00:74:50.939
winkelvoss has got sixty five million dollars, which seems like a shit ton of
1341
00:74:51.020 --> 00:74:55.010
money. I think that has more
to do with like how valuable facebook is.
1342
00:74:55.170 --> 00:74:58.090
Yeah, to their contribution. Your
contribution was probably like a million dollar
1343
00:74:58.130 --> 00:75:00.090
contribution, you know. But yeah, facebooks were so much. Yeah,
1344
00:75:01.090 --> 00:75:06.720
and then Edwardo is a undisclosed so
I assume he's he's rolling. I feel
1345
00:75:06.760 --> 00:75:09.720
like I had looked up his net
worth and it was like, you know,
1346
00:75:09.840 --> 00:75:13.960
he's fine. Yeah, but yeah, I mean he definitely made more
1347
00:75:14.000 --> 00:75:15.880
than sixty five right. The assumption
got to be he is. He got
1348
00:75:15.920 --> 00:75:19.279
out way ahead, more than the
winkle losses. You got it. It's
1349
00:75:19.319 --> 00:75:21.310
the injury. Who Do you think
has the bigger claim? Like I the
1350
00:75:21.350 --> 00:75:26.310
winklevosses started it, but I feel
like Edwardo like helped build it up.
1351
00:75:26.310 --> 00:75:29.789
Yeah, I think he, I
mean much bigger claim. Yeah, I
1352
00:75:29.829 --> 00:75:32.149
don't know anything about law, but
I would certainly award Edwardo more. And
1353
00:75:32.229 --> 00:75:36.180
apparently he's back in the masthead or
whatever he's yeah, back as the founder
1354
00:75:36.220 --> 00:75:41.340
of Facebook, which they Sean Parker
said, we take you out, man.
1355
00:75:41.380 --> 00:75:43.779
There's another cross in the line.
Felt. I felt like, yeah,
1356
00:75:44.460 --> 00:75:47.899
his name should at least still be
there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1357
00:75:48.180 --> 00:75:50.210
so I think he gets done dirty, but I also feel like he
1358
00:75:50.289 --> 00:75:54.329
makes a lot of mistakes. I
guess is my good Warda. Yeah,
1359
00:75:54.329 --> 00:75:56.329
yeah, I agree. My opinion, I agree, at least in the
1360
00:75:56.489 --> 00:75:59.329
film. I don't know about real
life, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
1361
00:75:59.329 --> 00:76:00.770
I don't. I want to take
talk about these people as characters,
1362
00:76:00.970 --> 00:76:05.800
not because I don't the people.
Yeah, yeah, apparently mark Zuckerberg's kind
1363
00:76:05.840 --> 00:76:09.079
of different in real life. I
don't know. It looks like he smiles.
1364
00:76:09.079 --> 00:76:11.960
I've seen videos of him smiling.
I don't know. Jesse Eisenberg doesn't
1365
00:76:11.960 --> 00:76:15.399
smile. Dudes weird. Yeah,
dude is weird. I saw something where
1366
00:76:15.399 --> 00:76:17.039
Jesse Eisenberg was like, why don't
I like die my hair red? I
1367
00:76:17.079 --> 00:76:23.109
guess he's a little redheaded or something. Jesse Eisenberg, no, mark the
1368
00:76:23.189 --> 00:76:26.909
row in real life. Yeah,
he was like, why don't I die
1369
00:76:27.029 --> 00:76:29.510
my hair red and I'll look up
these court things and do this, and
1370
00:76:29.510 --> 00:76:30.869
David fincher was like, Hey,
man, just think of it as like
1371
00:76:31.470 --> 00:76:34.340
you're this kid that invented something.
Everyone's trying to take it away, and
1372
00:76:34.500 --> 00:76:38.340
just he was like just, he's
like, he was like basically like don't
1373
00:76:38.380 --> 00:76:41.539
play Mark Zuckerberg, play this character
that we've re at. Play the character
1374
00:76:41.819 --> 00:76:44.539
that's yeah, that's that's interesting.
I think that's why this, this is
1375
00:76:44.579 --> 00:76:46.140
such a great feat of directing too, because obviously what you said, like
1376
00:76:46.210 --> 00:76:49.649
the whole table read thing and figuring
out what it is beforehand, but at
1377
00:76:49.689 --> 00:76:55.090
the same time, like getting these
people to be these characters instead of actual
1378
00:76:55.649 --> 00:77:00.609
like because this is a biopic technically. Yeah, right, and those so
1379
00:77:00.729 --> 00:77:03.199
so easily, like you can even
look at it with the king speech fallen
1380
00:77:03.199 --> 00:77:06.199
until like yeah, categories of people
are just like, oh, that's boring
1381
00:77:06.399 --> 00:77:09.880
or oh, that doesn't really matter
anymore for me, like yeah, which
1382
00:77:09.960 --> 00:77:12.640
this is not. This is not. No, which is which is why
1383
00:77:12.680 --> 00:77:16.430
I think it's so interesting and why
it deserves all the recognition that it's gotten.
1384
00:77:16.470 --> 00:77:20.029
But so you think it's Sorkin's best
script? Oh, for sure.
1385
00:77:20.029 --> 00:77:24.750
Yeah, I would agree. I
think it's definitely Sorkin's best work. You
1386
00:77:24.829 --> 00:77:26.750
think this is a fincher movie or
sort and movie, if you had to
1387
00:77:26.750 --> 00:77:29.350
give it to one person? I
know it's a dumb question, but no,
1388
00:77:29.510 --> 00:77:31.060
but I understand the question because it's
I see what you're getting at.
1389
00:77:31.500 --> 00:77:34.539
Think is a SORC I think I
have more like similarities with other sorkin work
1390
00:77:34.579 --> 00:77:39.739
that I would agreeventure work. Yeah, because fincher work is often like this
1391
00:77:39.899 --> 00:77:42.300
is a dark movie, but I'd
say it's darker. Yeah, and he's
1392
00:77:42.340 --> 00:77:45.369
violent. He's also like generally more
like visually grand trying to do stuff this.
1393
00:77:45.689 --> 00:77:49.689
This movie is very simply shot,
like I know what it one or
1394
00:77:49.770 --> 00:77:54.090
got nominated for cinematography, but I
think that's like the simple lighting and they
1395
00:77:54.250 --> 00:77:58.800
the red camera and like the framing
for the story. But he doesn't do
1396
00:77:58.920 --> 00:78:01.840
anything fancy. There's not a lot
of like dollies or big weird time lapses
1397
00:78:01.920 --> 00:78:04.800
like a Zodiac or these other movies
that he's done. Yeah, I'd agree.
1398
00:78:05.000 --> 00:78:09.199
Think he's very much like trying to
shoot the sorkin movie. Yeah,
1399
00:78:09.319 --> 00:78:12.439
like he's coming to Sorkin as opposed
to sorkin going to fincher. Yes,
1400
00:78:12.600 --> 00:78:15.989
I'm looking up SORKIN's other credits to
try to draw some similarities. But you
1401
00:78:16.149 --> 00:78:21.229
mean I don't Love Sorkin? I'm
a Steve Jobs, I really like.
1402
00:78:21.989 --> 00:78:29.020
That's obviously after this. Yeah,
or like there's a great script moneyball to
1403
00:78:29.579 --> 00:78:32.340
money. But this falls in line
with I would say, yeah, similar
1404
00:78:32.539 --> 00:78:36.180
like dialog and character. It's just
people in rooms trying to do something.
1405
00:78:36.260 --> 00:78:41.180
Yeah, and their conflict. That's
like develops mean them. Yeah, it's
1406
00:78:41.300 --> 00:78:44.170
the way it's shown. Yeah,
I mean he's the ultimate king of like
1407
00:78:44.250 --> 00:78:47.289
Witty, woody dialog. Right,
like his story structure and stuff is good,
1408
00:78:47.409 --> 00:78:50.930
but like the reason he's a household
writers because of his dialog. Yeah,
1409
00:78:51.050 --> 00:78:56.279
I'd agree. But I think this
one is an example of where it's
1410
00:78:56.279 --> 00:79:00.119
like it's not just the dialog.
The structure is like pinpoint per very important,
1411
00:79:00.119 --> 00:79:01.279
when we cut to the court rooms, when we cut back when.
1412
00:79:01.319 --> 00:79:04.239
Yeah, do you think that it
is that written in the screenplay? Do
1413
00:79:04.359 --> 00:79:08.159
you know? I'd be willing about
it. Is I don't know for sure,
1414
00:79:08.159 --> 00:79:13.149
interesting because a lot of it seems
like almost exact like they're finishing.
1415
00:79:13.310 --> 00:79:16.430
There's some early on where it's like
they're almost finishing sentences. Yeah, when
1416
00:79:16.430 --> 00:79:18.949
they cut and it's like that would
have been weird to have been, you're
1417
00:79:18.949 --> 00:79:21.750
right, not together in the script
and you're right. I always think I
1418
00:79:21.829 --> 00:79:26.380
gave a gave that credit to fincher
and the editors. I'm sure it's probably
1419
00:79:26.579 --> 00:79:30.539
more like fine tuned because of that, but I think, yeah, probably
1420
00:79:30.579 --> 00:79:33.779
the idea of cutting. There's there's
no way that. It was originally like
1421
00:79:34.340 --> 00:79:38.649
all play chronologically and the court stuff
was at the end. Like that doesn't
1422
00:79:38.689 --> 00:79:40.850
work. That doesn't work. So
the inner cuttings there. I just don't
1423
00:79:40.850 --> 00:79:44.170
know how much inside of each scene
it is like the minutia of it is
1424
00:79:44.210 --> 00:79:53.039
probably fincher and the two editors.
Yeah, interesting, but yeah, this
1425
00:79:53.159 --> 00:79:57.800
is Jesse Eisenberg's best performance. I'm
going to say this. For me,
1426
00:79:58.640 --> 00:80:01.479
definitely not American ultra or something that. So yeah, I'd have to say
1427
00:80:01.520 --> 00:80:06.869
this. I that's go in the
whale adventure land. I've never seen a
1428
00:80:06.909 --> 00:80:10.109
venture land, so I can't speak
on mention land. Trying to think of
1429
00:80:10.189 --> 00:80:16.109
other Zombie Land, Zombie lands,
Big Land Fan. Yeah, it's probably
1430
00:80:16.229 --> 00:80:20.779
my favorite of everybody in it.
That's what I was going to say.
1431
00:80:20.779 --> 00:80:26.579
I think it's Jesse Andrew Army,
Andrew Garfield, I have some love for
1432
00:80:26.899 --> 00:80:30.420
in some other things. I do
too. I think he's a great actor,
1433
00:80:30.579 --> 00:80:32.579
but I just I feel maybe it's
because it's that's my introduction to him
1434
00:80:33.100 --> 00:80:36.449
was this. Yeah, it's easy
do this arounder the silver lake, but
1435
00:80:36.529 --> 00:80:40.649
they're very different. Oh, yeah, every I like this movie a lot
1436
00:80:40.689 --> 00:80:43.770
more than I like under the silver
like, though, a lot. But
1437
00:80:44.050 --> 00:80:46.210
yeah, I'd give it this.
I'll give him. What about Max,
1438
00:80:46.449 --> 00:80:49.560
Max Miguela? Actually, I don't
started. Yes, tell starting. He's
1439
00:80:50.199 --> 00:80:54.119
heat. Last year he directed this
movie called Teen Spirit. Oh, he's
1440
00:80:54.119 --> 00:80:56.640
a director. Well, now he
is, I guess he. Wait,
1441
00:80:56.800 --> 00:81:00.319
is that the L fanning? He's
dating Olfan? Okay, that's not at
1442
00:81:00.319 --> 00:81:01.920
all who I thought it was.
Oh, I thought it was the Elizabeth
1443
00:81:02.000 --> 00:81:04.909
Moss movie. What's that one?
I don't even. Anyway, it doesn't
1444
00:81:04.909 --> 00:81:08.590
matter. Yeah, I know why. I don't know why I thought she
1445
00:81:08.630 --> 00:81:13.109
would be in a teen movie.
Stumble me, but he I'm trying to
1446
00:81:13.189 --> 00:81:15.390
freaking find is. It would have
been fast if I just searched him.
1447
00:81:16.109 --> 00:81:20.100
He's not. He's not too terribly
important in the overall okay, cool,
1448
00:81:20.500 --> 00:81:24.899
like the social network is his top
credit. So I think this is a
1449
00:81:24.939 --> 00:81:29.779
great performance for roadymorrow, but her
best would be fincher's next movie. Right.
1450
00:81:30.220 --> 00:81:33.489
Is it fincher's next movie that they
work together again? I think so.
1451
00:81:33.569 --> 00:81:35.649
I'm trying to think Sarah. Yeah, I was thinking about her,
1452
00:81:36.329 --> 00:81:42.010
but I feel like girl the Dragon
Tattoo is probably yeah, certainly more to
1453
00:81:42.050 --> 00:81:45.649
do. It is. Yes,
the next year, very quick turn around.
1454
00:81:45.890 --> 00:81:50.359
M finching has a weird career.
I think this is Oh, there's
1455
00:81:50.359 --> 00:81:54.159
a kid. The kid from Drassic
Park is in this movie too. I
1456
00:81:54.199 --> 00:81:56.319
don't know if we talked about him, but I really like him in this
1457
00:81:56.399 --> 00:81:59.399
movie. He's the roommate at the
beginning. Is that why you have seen
1458
00:81:59.439 --> 00:82:01.229
drastic DASSIC Park Guy? Yeah,
I didn't know what that man was like.
1459
00:82:01.270 --> 00:82:04.189
What is that little kid from Drassic
Park? Oh, and he's really
1460
00:82:04.189 --> 00:82:06.670
funny at this, but it doesn't
have anything to do. I just he's
1461
00:82:06.710 --> 00:82:10.630
in the background like spinning chairs,
and yet hang on the bed awkwardly,
1462
00:82:10.750 --> 00:82:15.029
like I just noticed rewatching this,
like this guy is chewing up as much
1463
00:82:15.029 --> 00:82:17.420
scenery out of focus as I've ever
seen anyone out of focused. You have
1464
00:82:17.500 --> 00:82:21.340
seen hers like he's not even he's
definitely not in focus, but that's money.
1465
00:82:21.380 --> 00:82:24.899
Got Have to look to see him, but he's always doing something weird
1466
00:82:24.939 --> 00:82:28.539
in the background. That is funny
because like, yeah, he's there,
1467
00:82:28.739 --> 00:82:33.289
so so why not? That's funny. All right. Any closing thoughts?
1468
00:82:33.529 --> 00:82:38.529
Big Old with by the academy.
Yeah, they screwed that one up.
1469
00:82:38.689 --> 00:82:41.810
Well, I think they got the
wins right, but this definitely should have
1470
00:82:41.850 --> 00:82:45.159
been picture and directing for sure.
I don't know, Fitcher doesn't have one
1471
00:82:45.239 --> 00:82:48.880
right? No, I don't think
so. Yeah, we'll see. Maybe
1472
00:82:48.920 --> 00:82:53.279
this here. Literally, why would
you got this year? Mank from Netflix?
1473
00:82:53.960 --> 00:82:57.800
That's the most wells movie. Yeah, yeah, citizen Kane. We'll
1474
00:82:57.800 --> 00:83:00.069
see. I'm assuming it'll be a
big deal. Yeah, who knows?
1475
00:83:02.710 --> 00:83:05.229
All right, sweet sick, we'll
call it a day.
