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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind.
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Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal... I'm proposing that
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the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that
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our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Welcome to the fire.
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Welcome to the fire. Today on Church and State, projects Meridian, Muse,
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and Mayhem. Hello, Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church and State,
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where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy.
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And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite
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and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always
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I don't blame them, Chris, but a lot of people
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You're not answering that.
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people could listen to this thing of beauty. Just realized
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at proton.me. And with that... I love propaganda, don't you?
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Don't you just love it? When you are presented with propaganda,
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don't you just get all giddy with anticipation and excitement?
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I know I do. I know I love it when
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I see a story and I'm like, that's clearly fake.
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And we should all be accustomed to this, used to this.
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I mean, we were sold this idea that media is fake.
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And you know what? It is. But if you agree
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that media is fake, don't you also have to agree
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that the current iteration of media is also fake? I
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would think so. And so what are we hearing today?
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The date of this is October 1st. That's when we're
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recording the show. And we have the fly Dubai incident
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that everybody is talking about, right? And what happened? What's
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the current status? What do we know as of October 1st?
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This will probably be outdated by the time the episode
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hits you, but this is what I know as of
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October 1st. He was flying from Dubai to Tel Aviv,
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was diverted to Saudi Arabia after the co-pilot allegedly stabbed
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the captain and tried to crash the plane, an act
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thwarted by passengers and off-duty crew. So what we know,
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the pilot was of Indian descent, and the co-pilot is
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a Muslim. And apparently during the course of the flight,
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the co-pilot stabs the pilot and then attempts to crash
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the plane, dropping it rather abruptly, like 16,000 feet in
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the air, at which point the captain is still alive,
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is able to open the cabin door and cry for help,
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at which point three Israelis that were passengers were able
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to rush the cockpit, put the co-pilot into a chokehold,
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and regain the control of the plane, and were able
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to land it successfully. Benjamin Netanyahu was saying that we
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just escaped another 9-11 type event. And Trump, what is
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Trump doing? He is, of course, suggesting that there might
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have been a tie to Iran. Isn't that just convenient?
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Isn't it though? Of course, the boogeyman, Iran, has to
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have their fingerprints all over this. The reality is, is
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we don't know. We don't know the intentions behind the co-pilot.
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We rushed to judgment. Could it be a terrorist, a
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planned terrorist attack? Certainly. Could it be that the pilot
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who is Indian, and I'm going to assume is Hindu,
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could he have had a disagreement with his Muslim co-pilot?
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And the unhinged co-pilot decides, Well, I'll show you who
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the true God is. Could have been. We don't know.
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But we got to stop rushing to judgment and then
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just believing these people who clearly have an agenda to sell. Netanyahu,
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Donald Trump, 9-11, right? The 9-11 comment. What's that going
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to do to us? We're going to rush back to
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that tragic event on September 11th of 2001. We can't
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ever allow a plane to crash into another building like that.
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I agree. Of course, I don't agree that that's the
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full story behind 9-11. You know, I'm a truth rover
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on this side. But it's going to get that emotional response.
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It's going to elicit that from you. And then we
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have Donald Trump rushing. Probably ties to Iran. Nobody's saying
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for sure, but it could be. Well, we can't allow that.
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If Iran is now trying to use planes as weapons,
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somebody ought to go do that and go in there
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and stop him. Right. You know, I mean, we already
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went in there to stop the nuclear arms, but now
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we got to go in there again. And what's it
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going to do? More and more war, more and more war.
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And of course. Higher gas prices as well. And we're
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moving to Zero Hedge, which has exactly that story right now.
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Oil soars as U.S. sending 10,000 more troops, third carrier,
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to Mideast after Donald Trump threatens post-midterm bombing. Here we
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go again. Look, Donald Trump and the Republican Party knows
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that the war in Iran is actually not very popular. Sure,
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you have the conservatives, you know, the MAGA crowd. They're like,
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you know, they're reiterating and just regurgitating the talking points
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of short-term pain for long-term gain. But the vast majority
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of us, once again, the James Carville, it's the economy, stupid.
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It was James Carville, wasn't it, Chris? I think it was. Probably.
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It was a Bill Clinton during that era. Anyway, we're
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not happy. Every time we go to the gas pump,
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every time we go to the grocery store, we're unhappy
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because the prices just keep going up and up and up.
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So they're pausing it, right? But of course, it takes
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a while to move these troops. These troops aren't going
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to arrive until November. So it's not going to happen.
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They're not going to have the troops necessary to mount
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another attack until post-midterm. But he's getting it all ready.
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They're getting sent in there. a bunch of my fellow
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Marines going in there, among other personnel. Of course, you
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know I love the Marine Corps the best. We're going
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to bomb them again. You think this war is over?
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It's not. You think, to the people that are like, well,
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I'm going to vote Democrat this time, you think that's
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going to stop that? You think voting for the pretend
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left wing of the Uniparty is going to stop this war?
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Did Biden stop wars? Did Obama stop wars? Of course
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they didn't. Because they're all part of the same mixture.
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Regardless of who you vote, whoever you put into office.
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or I should say whoever they put into office, because
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you got that illusion of choice, you're going to get
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more war. Isn't that exciting? Aren't you just thrilled? More wars,
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more endless wars. I got to tell you, at some point,
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the American public should have it up to here. We've
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seen boxes brought home, flag-draped coffins filled with our best
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and brightest. That's what's at stake. But we don't do
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anything about it. We complain. Complain, we moan. Then we
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vote for the other side. Because they're going to be
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different this time. Empty campaign promises. I so tire of them.
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And then from there, I want to bring something else up.
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This is really interesting. I want to talk about Project Meridian.
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This was just launched today, once again, October 1st. And
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people weren't paying attention at all to what this is.
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At all. They're talking about Pete Hegseth's speech. This dog
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whistle designed both for the left and the right. Let's
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go ahead and hear it. Go ahead, Chris.
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But it's worth saying again so that the fake news
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understands it. We are no longer the woke department or
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the weak department. Simple translation of that. No fatties, no trannies,
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no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals. Just warriors.
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Just tough, ready, committed troops. The war department, as you know,
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is colorblind, gender neutral, And.
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There it is. And you see what this does, right,
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to the to the MAGA crowd who got so tired
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of what was happening to our military. And look, I
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agree with you guys. When you got the army marching
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a mile in high heels so they can march a
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mile in her shoes. You got the PFTs, for example,
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in the Marine Corps, where we were required to do
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specific things, run three miles, do 20 pull-ups. They got lowered.
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The bar got lowered and lowered and lowered and lowered
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until you end up with a bunch of people who
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can't fight their way out of a paper bag. And
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if you have a military, yeah, it might be important
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to have the best, the toughest. I mean, it's the
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Marine Corps, guys. The few, the proud. But every other
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branch suffered from it. In fact, all the other branches...
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I suffer from it more than the Marine Corps, because
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the Marine Corps actually held firm on a lot of this.
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But the MAGA people are like, yes! No more fatties,
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no more beardos, no more weirdos. This is fantastic, just warriors.
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But the dog whistle on the other side is what?
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The left is going to beat their chest. Oh my gosh.
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Look at Trump, orange man, TDS. Pete Haig said he's
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such a war criminal. Look at how they're oppressing the
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minorities and the trans and the gays and all this.
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It's a dog whistle to both sides, guys, because you
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are fixated on that. You're paying attention to what he said,
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and the soundbite is traveling all over social media. Meanwhile,
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nobody's even asking what Project Meridian is. And that's what
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we should be paying attention to. I tell you all
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the time, stop looking at the magician's left hand. The
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trick is occurring over here. So what exactly is it?
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What exactly has come about with Project Meridian? Why is
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Elon Musk associated with it? Project Meridian is co-led. Elon Musk,
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Palmer Luckey, and Newt Gingrich, Newt Gingrich, Where did they
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pull him out of, Chris? How long has that guy
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been retired? Is he still around? I did not. I mean, actually,
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I did know that he was still around. But that
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guy's old. Now I'm going to be called an ageist.
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I mean, I don't know. That guy looks tired. I
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don't think he may not be the best person to
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co-lead this. But Pete Hegseth has announced the initiative. And
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it's during his State of Force. What are these names?
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The State of Force. We changed it from the Secretary
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of Defense to the Secretary of War. And now we
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have a speech about the State of the Force. I
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feel like we're in Star Wars. Do I have a
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Star Wars button, Chris? I need a Star Wars button,
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I think. I don't think we have one. Anyway, the
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State of Force at Marine Corps Base Quantico. The role,
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the trio will study future warfare domains and technologies for
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the Pentagon under the supervision of Chief Technology Officer Emile Michael.
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A 120-day study aims to identify weapons and systems needed
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for battlefields ranging from under the Earth to beyond the moon. Hmm.
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Hear that, Chris? We're going beyond the moon. Beyond the moon. Wow.
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I guess we broke through on the other side. I
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guess that happened. I wouldn't be so sure. Are you sure?
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It seems that we broke through the firmament, Chris. To
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the waters above. This announcement accompanied the creation of the
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new Autonomous Warfare Command focused on AI robotics and drone warfare. Oh,
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there we go. Not artificial intelligence. Chris, correct me. Super intelligence.
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I'm so glad that there was an executive order put
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out that we could change the name from artificial intelligence
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to super intelligence. Does that not concern you? Are you
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in trouble a little bit by this? Or should we
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go back and play Pete Hexeth's excellent speech so we
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can talk about beardos and weirdos, no trans, all that
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kind of stuff? Or should we maybe focus on the
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fact that Elon Musk, the guy who led Doge, Which
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we just did an episode. In fact, we're going to
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put these in order, Chris. I'm going to call an
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audible on that. But we just did the episode yesterday
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where we talked about America, right? Taking all of the
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bureaucracy and going to America.gov where everything is under one banner.
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It's sure convenient. But that was the purpose of Doge
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all along. And I chastised myself on that episode for
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not seeing it. Well, now we're doing what to the military?
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We're bringing Elon Musk to bring it all together. Under what?
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Under an AI banner. Sorry, SI. You know, SI in
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medical terms stands for suicidal ideations. That fits. I think
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it might have been appropriately named. I think now when
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we talk about, not AI anymore, but SI, I think
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we might have suicidal ideations, especially if we turn over
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the entire military... To it. To robotics. Is anybody else
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out there having visions of Skynet? Chris, when you hear
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about the AI robotics and drone warfare, are you having
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Skynet visions at all? Just a little bit. A little bit, yeah.
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We need that song. Do-do-do, do-do-do. Remember that from Terminator?
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You're not going to start singing, are you? I might.
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Gabe was the singer. I don't typically sing on these shows,
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but I'm terrified. I got a smile on my face
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because Christ is King, of course, but this is not good.
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This is not good whatsoever for the world as a whole.
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Are we going to stop this? Are we going to
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do anything about it? Are we going to focus on
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Hegsa's speech? Are we going to actually ask questions about
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Project Meridian? And that maybe, maybe, just maybe, this isn't
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a good idea. Gosh, I hope, I hope we do.
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I mean, just think about the future wars here. Think
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about the future wars and the expansion of it all.
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They talked about it under the earth, over the earth.
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They're not happy anymore to just bring a war upon
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the earth. They want to do it underground. They want
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to do it in the ocean. They want to do
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it in the air. They want to do it in space.
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These guys have a bloodlust like you wouldn't believe. And
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they're announcing it. And half the population is upset because
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it's not inclusive. And the other population, the other half
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of the population is rah, rah, rah, all the way
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to death. Why pick a team for that? Why would
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you possibly do that? Why? If you are more, look,
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I talked to a recent episode. I talked about the
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need for a warrior and a poet, right? In every society,
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we need both. So if you're more on that poet
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side of things, Why would you root for what is
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weak and wimpy? It just makes you want to pull
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your hair out. But if you're the warrior, don't you
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want to go home at night? Don't you want to
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see your family? Or are you just a viking? It
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believes that when I die, you know what? You know
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what heaven's going to be like? I'm going to give
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more war. We're just going to feast and fight each
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other and kill each other, and then we'll get resurrected
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to do it all over again. Is that your idea, heaven?
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This intentional divide just gets me going. Truly, it does.
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That we couldn't strive to have both. And every once
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in a while, that warrior poet emerges. A blending of both.
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And maybe that's the true leader. In fact, it is
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the true leader. King David was a warrior poet. Donald
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Trump is not a warrior poet. Pete Hegseth is not
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a warrior poet. None of our leaders have been. Not
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a very long time. Washington. Washington. That was a warrior poet.
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Those are the kind of people you want to follow.
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Because when pushed, they will do battle. But at the
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end of the day, they want peace. They want peace,
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not just for themselves, but for all of mankind. And
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we don't have it. We do not have it. From there,
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Let's talk about something else. Something else that can get
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us all angry and agitated and animated like your host.
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Maha Goes Digital. This one's coming from the New American.
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Maha Goes Digital. RFK Jr. 's Algorithmic Medical State. Oh.
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Here we go again. You know, all these people that
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we once had faith in. Like Donald Trump. Trump. Like RFK.
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RFK hits harder for me. I never trusted Donald Trump.
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But RFK I wanted to believe in. I really did.
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And I told you the story before about being his
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bodyguard at an event in Olympia, Washington. I met him.
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Talked with him. I believed that he wanted what was
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best for medical freedom. And how many times do I
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bring in medical freedom doctors on this show? Because it's
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a Honestly, it's a passion of mine. This matters so
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much to me, and that's why I devote so much
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time talking about it. Why I got banned off of YouTube.
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I won't mention why, Chris, because I want to put
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this episode on YouTube. Do you think I still can?
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Shh.
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Okay, I'll be quiet. I can't be quiet. Health and
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Human Services, HHS. Secretary Robert F. Kennedy headlined this week's
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Maha Summit in Washington... Where officials, physicians, entrepreneurs, insurers, health
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tech executives discuss chronic disease, health care costs, nutrition, early detection, psychedelics,
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artificial intelligence. Oh, sorry, super intelligence. We got to start
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writing that. We got to correct that. Donald Trump told
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us to. And the growing use of health data. Kennedy
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used the event to push two ideas in particular. giving
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AI a much larger role in personal health care and
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linking vast stores of Americans' health data so researchers and
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machines can search them for answers. Oh, the betrayal. It
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cuts like a knife. How could we possibly view this
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as a good thing? How could we possibly view RFK Jr.
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with nothing but suspicion at this point forward? He's partnering
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with the tech oligarchs. They all are. Every single one
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of them. Every time I see Donald Trump and RFK Jr.
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as of late, they're surrounded by the tech oligarchs. Elon
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Musk is all over it. Mark Zuckerberg is all over it.
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Peter Thiel is all over it. Because that's who's really
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leading the country. And I was just talking about Skynet
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and Terminator. How do you put these puzzle pieces together? Well,
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let's do it. We're already going to have warfare with SI,
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I'm going to get this right, suicidal ideations, which is
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also in the medical thing. I'll talk about that in
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a second here. Drones and robots. And now all of
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our health data is going to be given over to superintelligence.
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Your healthcare is going to be, yeah, sure, we'll have
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a doctor initially, but eventually it's just going to go
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over to AI or SI. You think made in Canada
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is a fluke? You think human beings, even with the
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limited conscience that some of these people have, you think
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AI is going to be better than that? You think
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the machine, the cold, calculated machine, is not going to
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examine everything and come to the conclusion that this individual
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isn't worth saving? Could we do it?
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Sure.
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We've got the technology. But as superintelligence looks across all spectrums,
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what do they contribute to society? How long have they lived?
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How much money have we had to give them through
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Elon Musk's universal high income You know what? We're going
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to make the cold decision. This person's lived a long
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enough life. That's what we're asking for. When we do
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a medical state, an AI or SI medical state, I
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like the SI, honestly, the suicidal ideation medical state. Kennedy
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made his ambitions clear during the fireside chat with Vice
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President J.D. Vance. And of course, J.D. Vance, he's the
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poster boy. That's who the tech bros want in office.
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They want him as our next president because he's completely
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sold out to them. Fireside chat with Vice President J.D.
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Vance at the Maha Summit on Tuesday. He began by
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invoking a recent conversation with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. According
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to Kennedy, Altman told him, Two years ago, I wouldn't
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have advised anybody to take medical advice alone from AI.
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But today, it would be a malpractice for a doctor
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to make a diagnosis or to make a prescription without
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at least checking AI. Oh, you see how they get
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you there? Sam Altman, he's benevolent. Chris, when you think
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of benevolent characters, isn't Sam Altman at the top of
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your list? I mean, literally like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny.
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Sam Altman, right? Like, he's got to be in the
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top three. Of satanic frauds? Oh, yeah. No, Chris, no. Shh. No.
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Benevolent characters. Yes, Sam Altman obviously clearly has our benefit,
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humanity's benefit. He's a pure heart, ladies and gentlemen. This
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sarcasm just drips from my voice. Kennedy went further. He
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said HHS wants every American to have digital access to
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personal medical records from a phone. A patient, he noted,
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could have a thousand-page medical history. A doctor may have
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only minutes to examine it. AI would not face that limitation. Perhaps,
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oh perhaps, we needed to fix the medical system. You're
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pointing to something that you all created. You created manufactured
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corporate health care to where we barely even get a
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sentence in with the doctor. He quickly examines it, boom,
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and writes you a script and he's out the door
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and you're paying hundreds of dollars for that type of
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health care? Yeah, that's a problem. But is AI the solution? Hey,
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need some donations to fund the web developer to.
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Do that one.
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Stop me having crazy ideas. Stop Chris having to do
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more work. Just hit the donate button. It's that simple.
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I like that. All right. Let's go back into the
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conversation at hand. I'm talking about the failed medical system
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because they're pointing to it. They do this so often.
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It's so predictable. I'm blown away that more people can't
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see it. That's what you have me for, I suppose.
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They failed. They failed the medicine or the medical community.
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You talk to any nurse, any doctor, and they're going
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to tell you corporate health care is just awful. They
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all hate it. They're being worked to the bone. The
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corporations are all about making more money, more money, more money.
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They're working these people. I mean, most of them work
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12-hour shifts anyway in the ER and things. And what
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do they get? A pizza party. Didn't you love it
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when they do this, Chris? Like, hey, we know we
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worked you for like two weeks straight with no breaks
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and like You had way too many patients. In fact,
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it was probably unsafe according to the standards that the
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state has set. But to thank you for all of that,
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there's pizza in the break room.
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Yeah, nothing says we appreciate you like cardboard crust and
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fake cheese.
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Yeah, I know. They figured this out a long time.
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Just give them a little bit of free food. Yeah,
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a little bit of free food. Yeah, that'll work. They're
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probably taking it out of their paychecks too to pay
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for the pizza party. It sucks. I get it, okay?
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But this isn't the answer. Remember crisis solution? Talk about
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it all the time on the show. Here's your solution.
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The solution is AI or SI. They can get you
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to where the computer looks at everything. Like that. A
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blink of an eye. And then gives a treatment or
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a prescription. The AI can distill it. is what Kennedy said.
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He adds, it can give you a second opinion that
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is much better informed than any doctor in the country. Oh,
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if you trust it. If you trust it. Where's the
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AI getting their information from? This isn't godlike, okay? We
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all recognize that. Artificial intelligence, super intelligence, whatever you want
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to call it, what does it have access to? Everything
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on the internet. And everything on the internet is going
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to actually go against what Robert F. Kennedy supposedly stood for.
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He talks about, listen to this. One of the things
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that's going to change is that we're never, ever again
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going to be able to be dominated by public officials
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who tell us, trust the experts, because every American will
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be able to check their own medical advice. He continues,
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and if somebody tells you masks work, trust the experts.
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AI may tell you otherwise. If somebody else tells you
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social distancing works, trust the experts. AI may correct that.
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And if somebody tells you that a vaccine will prevent
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transmission and infection, oh, you need to take it to
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protect your grandmother. AI may say it actually doesn't do that.
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So it really has the capacity to free us from
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medical tyranny. These are RFK Jr. 's words. Except for,
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go back to what I was just saying. What's AI's source?
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AI's source is the establishment. AI's source is the CDC,
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is the AMA, is the government. So if the government decides,
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you know what, we want everybody to wear masks. We
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want everybody to stay six feet apart from each other.
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We want everybody to take the vaccines. What do you
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think artificial intelligence is going to say? Exactly that, except for,
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and here's where it's more dangerous, except for because you've
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been programmed to believe that artificial intelligence or super intelligence
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doesn't have an agenda. that it's just spitting out the facts,
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you're more inclined to believe it. Even us, people like
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you and me, who pushed back against it, who just
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inherently knew something in our minds and our hearts is stirred.
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And we said, you know, I'm not taking that. I'm
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not doing that. I'm still going to church. We turned
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to artificial intelligence. You know what? I didn't believe it.
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But you know what? The super intelligence, it's telling me, yes,
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I do have to take this vaccine. I do have
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to wear this mask. I do have to make sure
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I don't come six feet, get six feet closer to
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my wife or something. Is that what we're going to believe?
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I hope not. But I am thankful for one thing.
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One thing in all of this. RFK Jr., we see you.
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We see exactly who you are. You sold out. You
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sold out, man. I feel like Star Wars right now.
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You were the chosen one. Just another failed politician. Just
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more failed campaign promises. Now, That's why you listen to
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independent media. And the last story that we're going to
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be talking about is exactly that, Project Muse. You know
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what I tell you all the time to pay attention
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to what the opposition says? I do that. I read
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these things. Maybe you won't. Maybe you just don't want to.
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I do. I signed up a while ago for a
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real nasty newsletter called The Journal of Democracy. I hate it.
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I hate the name already. But boy, is it interesting.
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This is globalist through and through. This is the Council
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on Foreign Relations, the World Economic Forum, United Nations. This
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is trash. But know your enemy. I had a really
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interesting article here. How to protect the media in eroding democracies.
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Isn't that the nature of democracies, that they immediately erode? Yeah,
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I think people warned us. People far more intelligent than
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me warned us about democracies a long time ago. Maybe
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we should read those. But the article is fascinating. It
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talks about the rise of independent media. And it talks
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about how democracies transform. It talks about the positive ways
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and the negative ways. And of course, in their writing,
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they believe that democracy is at the end all be all.
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That's the best system of government. So they're going to
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push that upon us until enough countries become democracies so
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that they can become totalitarian. But they point to the
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fact that whenever you get a person in power, they're
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going to immediately take over the media. And it's true.
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That is accurate. They take over the media. Why? So
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that they can propagandize the people. And certainly the United
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States has not been immune to this. Many people believe
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that we were, but we never had truly free independent. Well,
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maybe in the very beginning we had truly free independent media.
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But they took over it a long time ago. Just
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read Rockefeller's famous words, thanking the media for their contributions
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or maybe lack of contributions, hiding what was actually going on.
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But then they talk about how there's transformation within these countries,
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positive transformations in these countries. And they point to three
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specific ways that these countries are changed. They can be
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changed by a true leader, right? The electoral process. Somebody
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gets in, gets elected, and many within the conservative circles
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would point to Donald Trump. as an example of this.
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I would not. But there are, regardless of that, there
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are examples of a populist. Somebody that's a little bit different,
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not the standard status quo of politicians that emerges into office.
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But the media plays an essential role into his power
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and to getting his voice before the people. From there,
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there's more of a bureaucratic transformation where the legislators, the judges,
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the bureaucrats can transform a society, oftentimes against the wills
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and wishes of that executive authority. And then, of course,
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there's the popular movement. This is where individuals like myself
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would come into play. People that organically push back. There's
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protests in the streets. But regardless of the transformation, the
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media has a role in all of this. This is
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why the media has so been targeted. The media is
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targeted because without the media giving a voice to the bureaucrats,
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to the popular movement, to the executive position, that the
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message isn't going to go around. It's not going to
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hit who it needs to hit. And that's why the
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media gets targeted more than anyone else. That's why they
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so fundamentally hate independent voices. And this article talks about that,
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but they're talking about it from a negative aspect. They're
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talking about it that somebody, of course, who is it,
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but somebody has to control all these voices. How is
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that free? How is that independent? How is that actual
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truthful media? They claim that maybe the best solution is
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the people. The people. And I would agree with that.
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Except for you're claiming for democracies. You're claiming for the majority.
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If my voice hits only one person and it edifies
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that person, then I've done a job well done. But
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the solution isn't democracies. It isn't more government control. It
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isn't a bunch of left-wing think tanks talking about what
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media should or shouldn't be. What media should or shouldn't
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be is determined by you, the audience. The audience who
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examines the individual and says, can I trust this person?
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Should I be skeptical of them? And we should never,
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ever have the mentality that so long has prevailed in
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the United States of too big to fail. We brought
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in the CNN that was literally dying, but we propped
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it up through government funds, through NGOs, through USAID. That
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money went into CNN and MSNBC, which is now, what
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is it now? MSN Now, is that right? I think
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it's MS Now. MS Now, yeah. Had to change their name.
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And now on the other side, what are we doing?
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We're propping up Fox News. A lot of other organizations.
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The Taylor Moore to the right. And the true independent ones,
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like myself, are on here daily begging for five bucks
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a month from you. We don't have the corporate money.
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We don't have the corporate sponsorship. You don't see a
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commercial after I'm done recommending the next Pfizer drug. If
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independent media is going to be successful, if it's going
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to last, if it's going to reach people, then it
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has to be organic. It has to be grassroots. It
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has to be sponsored by you. It's so essential to
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our freedoms. It's so essential to uncovering the truth. Everything
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that I talked about in this episode, You don't hear
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from a lot of places. There's other people out there,
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other great podcasters, other independent media that'll touch on similar subjects.
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You found me. And I thank you that you did.
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And I hope I just drive you towards questioning things.
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I'm controversial, but I make you think good. That's all
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I want. is to make you think. Look, you treasure freedom.
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Maybe we should look into that. Trump's golden age, donate now.
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It could work. The big, beautiful donate button. Yes, the big,
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to you from China. We need help, ladies and gentlemen, okay? Otherwise,
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at proton.me. And with that... I love propaganda, don't you?
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Don't you just love it? When you are presented with propaganda,
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don't you just get all giddy with anticipation and excitement?
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I see a story and I'm like, that's clearly fake.
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that media is fake, don't you also have to agree
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that the current iteration of media is also fake? I
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would think so. And so what are we hearing today?
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recording the show. And we have the fly Dubai incident
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that everybody is talking about, right? And what happened? What's
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October 1st. He was flying from Dubai to Tel Aviv,
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was diverted to Saudi Arabia after the co-pilot allegedly stabbed
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the captain and tried to crash the plane, an act
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thwarted by passengers and off-duty crew. So what we know,
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the pilot was of Indian descent, and the co-pilot is
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a Muslim. And apparently during the course of the flight,
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the co-pilot stabs the pilot and then attempts to crash
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the plane, dropping it rather abruptly, like 16,000 feet in
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the air, at which point the captain is still alive,
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is able to open the cabin door and cry for help,
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at which point three Israelis that were passengers were able
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to rush the cockpit, put the co-pilot into a chokehold,
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and regain the control of the plane, and were able
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to land it successfully. Benjamin Netanyahu was saying that we
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just escaped another 9-11 type event. And Trump, what is
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Trump doing? He is, of course, suggesting that there might
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have been a tie to Iran. Isn't that just convenient?
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Isn't it though? Of course, the boogeyman, Iran, has to
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have their fingerprints all over this. The reality is, is
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we don't know. We don't know the intentions behind the co-pilot.
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We rushed to judgment. Could it be a terrorist, a
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planned terrorist attack? Certainly. Could it be that the pilot
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who is Indian, and I'm going to assume is Hindu,
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could he have had a disagreement with his Muslim co-pilot?
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And the unhinged co-pilot decides, Well, I'll show you who
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the true God is. Could have been. We don't know.
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But we got to stop rushing to judgment and then
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just believing these people who clearly have an agenda to sell. Netanyahu,
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Donald Trump, 9-11, right? The 9-11 comment. What's that going
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to do to us? We're going to rush back to
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that tragic event on September 11th of 2001. We can't
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ever allow a plane to crash into another building like that.
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I agree. Of course, I don't agree that that's the
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full story behind 9-11. You know, I'm a truth rover
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on this side. But it's going to get that emotional response.
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It's going to elicit that from you. And then we
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have Donald Trump rushing. Probably ties to Iran. Nobody's saying
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for sure, but it could be. Well, we can't allow that.
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If Iran is now trying to use planes as weapons,
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somebody ought to go do that and go in there
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and stop him. Right. You know, I mean, we already
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went in there to stop the nuclear arms, but now
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we got to go in there again. And what's it
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going to do? More and more war, more and more war.
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And of course. Higher gas prices as well. And we're
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moving to Zero Hedge, which has exactly that story right now.
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Oil soars as U.S. sending 10,000 more troops, third carrier,
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to Mideast after Donald Trump threatens post-midterm bombing. Here we
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go again. Look, Donald Trump and the Republican Party knows
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that the war in Iran is actually not very popular. Sure,
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you have the conservatives, you know, the MAGA crowd. They're like,
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you know, they're reiterating and just regurgitating the talking points
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of short-term pain for long-term gain. But the vast majority
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of us, once again, the James Carville, it's the economy, stupid.
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It was James Carville, wasn't it, Chris? I think it was. Probably.
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It was a Bill Clinton during that era. Anyway, we're
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not happy. Every time we go to the gas pump,
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every time we go to the grocery store, we're unhappy
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because the prices just keep going up and up and up.
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So they're pausing it, right? But of course, it takes
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a while to move these troops. These troops aren't going
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to arrive until November. So it's not going to happen.
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They're not going to have the troops necessary to mount
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another attack until post-midterm. But he's getting it all ready.
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They're getting sent in there. a bunch of my fellow
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Marines going in there, among other personnel. Of course, you
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know I love the Marine Corps the best. We're going
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to bomb them again. You think this war is over?
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It's not. You think, to the people that are like, well,
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I'm going to vote Democrat this time, you think that's
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going to stop that? You think voting for the pretend
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left wing of the Uniparty is going to stop this war?
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Did Biden stop wars? Did Obama stop wars? Of course
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they didn't. Because they're all part of the same mixture.
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Regardless of who you vote, whoever you put into office.
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or I should say whoever they put into office, because
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you got that illusion of choice, you're going to get
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more war. Isn't that exciting? Aren't you just thrilled? More wars,
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more endless wars. I got to tell you, at some point,
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the American public should have it up to here. We've
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seen boxes brought home, flag-draped coffins filled with our best
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and brightest. That's what's at stake. But we don't do
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anything about it. We complain. Complain, we moan. Then we
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vote for the other side. Because they're going to be
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different this time. Empty campaign promises. I so tire of them.
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This is really interesting. I want to talk about Project Meridian.
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This was just launched today, once again, October 1st. And
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people weren't paying attention at all to what this is.
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At all. They're talking about Pete Hegseth's speech. This dog
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whistle designed both for the left and the right. Let's
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go ahead and hear it. Go ahead, Chris.
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But it's worth saying again so that the fake news
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understands it. We are no longer the woke department or
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the weak department. Simple translation of that. No fatties, no trannies,
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no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals. Just warriors.
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Just tough, ready, committed troops. The war department, as you know,
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is colorblind, gender neutral, And.
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There it is. And you see what this does, right,
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to the to the MAGA crowd who got so tired
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of what was happening to our military. And look, I
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agree with you guys. When you got the army marching
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a mile in high heels so they can march a
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mile in her shoes. You got the PFTs, for example,
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in the Marine Corps, where we were required to do
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specific things, run three miles, do 20 pull-ups. They got lowered.
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The bar got lowered and lowered and lowered and lowered
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until you end up with a bunch of people who
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can't fight their way out of a paper bag. And
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if you have a military, yeah, it might be important
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to have the best, the toughest. I mean, it's the
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Marine Corps, guys. The few, the proud. But every other
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branch suffered from it. In fact, all the other branches...
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I suffer from it more than the Marine Corps, because
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the Marine Corps actually held firm on a lot of this.
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But the MAGA people are like, yes! No more fatties,
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no more beardos, no more weirdos. This is fantastic, just warriors.
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But the dog whistle on the other side is what?
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The left is going to beat their chest. Oh my gosh.
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Look at Trump, orange man, TDS. Pete Haig said he's
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such a war criminal. Look at how they're oppressing the
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minorities and the trans and the gays and all this.
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It's a dog whistle to both sides, guys, because you
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are fixated on that. You're paying attention to what he said,
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and the soundbite is traveling all over social media. Meanwhile,
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nobody's even asking what Project Meridian is. And that's what
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we should be paying attention to. I tell you all
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the time, stop looking at the magician's left hand. The
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trick is occurring over here. So what exactly is it?
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What exactly has come about with Project Meridian? Why is
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Elon Musk associated with it? Project Meridian is co-led. Elon Musk,
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Palmer Luckey, and Newt Gingrich, Newt Gingrich, Where did they
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pull him out of, Chris? How long has that guy
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been retired? Is he still around? I did not. I mean, actually,
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I did know that he was still around. But that
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guy's old. Now I'm going to be called an ageist.
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I mean, I don't know. That guy looks tired. I
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don't think he may not be the best person to
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co-lead this. But Pete Hegseth has announced the initiative. And
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it's during his State of Force. What are these names?
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The State of Force. We changed it from the Secretary
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of Defense to the Secretary of War. And now we
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have a speech about the State of the Force. I
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feel like we're in Star Wars. Do I have a
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Star Wars button, Chris? I need a Star Wars button,
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I think. I don't think we have one. Anyway, the
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State of Force at Marine Corps Base Quantico. The role,
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the trio will study future warfare domains and technologies for
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the Pentagon under the supervision of Chief Technology Officer Emile Michael.
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A 120-day study aims to identify weapons and systems needed
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for battlefields ranging from under the Earth to beyond the moon. Hmm.
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Hear that, Chris? We're going beyond the moon. Beyond the moon. Wow.
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I guess we broke through on the other side. I
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guess that happened. I wouldn't be so sure. Are you sure?
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It seems that we broke through the firmament, Chris. To
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the waters above. This announcement accompanied the creation of the
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new Autonomous Warfare Command focused on AI robotics and drone warfare. Oh,
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there we go. Not artificial intelligence. Chris, correct me. Super intelligence.
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I'm so glad that there was an executive order put
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out that we could change the name from artificial intelligence
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to super intelligence. Does that not concern you? Are you
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in trouble a little bit by this? Or should we
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go back and play Pete Hexeth's excellent speech so we
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can talk about beardos and weirdos, no trans, all that
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kind of stuff? Or should we maybe focus on the
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fact that Elon Musk, the guy who led Doge, Which
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we just did an episode. In fact, we're going to
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put these in order, Chris. I'm going to call an
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audible on that. But we just did the episode yesterday
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where we talked about America, right? Taking all of the
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bureaucracy and going to America.gov where everything is under one banner.
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It's sure convenient. But that was the purpose of Doge
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all along. And I chastised myself on that episode for
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not seeing it. Well, now we're doing what to the military?
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We're bringing Elon Musk to bring it all together. Under what?
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Under an AI banner. Sorry, SI. You know, SI in
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medical terms stands for suicidal ideations. That fits. I think
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it might have been appropriately named. I think now when
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we talk about, not AI anymore, but SI, I think
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we might have suicidal ideations, especially if we turn over
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the entire military... To it. To robotics. Is anybody else
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out there having visions of Skynet? Chris, when you hear
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about the AI robotics and drone warfare, are you having
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Skynet visions at all? Just a little bit. A little bit, yeah.
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We need that song. Do-do-do, do-do-do. Remember that from Terminator?
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You're not going to start singing, are you? I might.
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Gabe was the singer. I don't typically sing on these shows,
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but I'm terrified. I got a smile on my face
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because Christ is King, of course, but this is not good.
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This is not good whatsoever for the world as a whole.
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Are we going to stop this? Are we going to
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do anything about it? Are we going to focus on
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Hegsa's speech? Are we going to actually ask questions about
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Project Meridian? And that maybe, maybe, just maybe, this isn't
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a good idea. Gosh, I hope, I hope we do.
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I mean, just think about the future wars here. Think
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about the future wars and the expansion of it all.
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They talked about it under the earth, over the earth.
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They're not happy anymore to just bring a war upon
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the earth. They want to do it underground. They want
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to do it in the ocean. They want to do
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it in the air. They want to do it in space.
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These guys have a bloodlust like you wouldn't believe. And
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they're announcing it. And half the population is upset because
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it's not inclusive. And the other population, the other half
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of the population is rah, rah, rah, all the way
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to death. Why pick a team for that? Why would
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you possibly do that? Why? If you are more, look,
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I talked to a recent episode. I talked about the
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need for a warrior and a poet, right? In every society,
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we need both. So if you're more on that poet
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side of things, Why would you root for what is
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weak and wimpy? It just makes you want to pull
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your hair out. But if you're the warrior, don't you
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want to go home at night? Don't you want to
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see your family? Or are you just a viking? It
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believes that when I die, you know what? You know
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what heaven's going to be like? I'm going to give
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more war. We're just going to feast and fight each
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other and kill each other, and then we'll get resurrected
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to do it all over again. Is that your idea, heaven?
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This intentional divide just gets me going. Truly, it does.
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That we couldn't strive to have both. And every once
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in a while, that warrior poet emerges. A blending of both.
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And maybe that's the true leader. In fact, it is
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the true leader. King David was a warrior poet. Donald
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Trump is not a warrior poet. Pete Hegseth is not
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a warrior poet. None of our leaders have been. Not
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a very long time. Washington. Washington. That was a warrior poet.
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Those are the kind of people you want to follow.
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Because when pushed, they will do battle. But at the
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end of the day, they want peace. They want peace,
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not just for themselves, but for all of mankind. And
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we don't have it. We do not have it. From there,
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Let's talk about something else. Something else that can get
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us all angry and agitated and animated like your host.
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Maha Goes Digital. This one's coming from the New American.
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Maha Goes Digital. RFK Jr. 's Algorithmic Medical State. Oh.
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Here we go again. You know, all these people that
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we once had faith in. Like Donald Trump. Trump. Like RFK.
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RFK hits harder for me. I never trusted Donald Trump.
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But RFK I wanted to believe in. I really did.
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And I told you the story before about being his
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bodyguard at an event in Olympia, Washington. I met him.
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Talked with him. I believed that he wanted what was
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best for medical freedom. And how many times do I
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bring in medical freedom doctors on this show? Because it's
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a Honestly, it's a passion of mine. This matters so
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much to me, and that's why I devote so much
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time talking about it. Why I got banned off of YouTube.
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I won't mention why, Chris, because I want to put
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this episode on YouTube. Do you think I still can?
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Shh.
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Okay, I'll be quiet. I can't be quiet. Health and
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Human Services, HHS. Secretary Robert F. Kennedy headlined this week's
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Maha Summit in Washington... Where officials, physicians, entrepreneurs, insurers, health
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tech executives discuss chronic disease, health care costs, nutrition, early detection, psychedelics,
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artificial intelligence. Oh, sorry, super intelligence. We got to start
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writing that. We got to correct that. Donald Trump told
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us to. And the growing use of health data. Kennedy
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used the event to push two ideas in particular. giving
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AI a much larger role in personal health care and
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linking vast stores of Americans' health data so researchers and
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machines can search them for answers. Oh, the betrayal. It
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cuts like a knife. How could we possibly view this
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as a good thing? How could we possibly view RFK Jr.
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with nothing but suspicion at this point forward? He's partnering
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with the tech oligarchs. They all are. Every single one
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of them. Every time I see Donald Trump and RFK Jr.
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as of late, they're surrounded by the tech oligarchs. Elon
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Musk is all over it. Mark Zuckerberg is all over it.
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Peter Thiel is all over it. Because that's who's really
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leading the country. And I was just talking about Skynet
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and Terminator. How do you put these puzzle pieces together? Well,
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let's do it. We're already going to have warfare with SI,
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I'm going to get this right, suicidal ideations, which is
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also in the medical thing. I'll talk about that in
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a second here. Drones and robots. And now all of
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our health data is going to be given over to superintelligence.
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Your healthcare is going to be, yeah, sure, we'll have
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a doctor initially, but eventually it's just going to go
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over to AI or SI. You think made in Canada
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is a fluke? You think human beings, even with the
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limited conscience that some of these people have, you think
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AI is going to be better than that? You think
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the machine, the cold, calculated machine, is not going to
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examine everything and come to the conclusion that this individual
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isn't worth saving? Could we do it?
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Sure.
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We've got the technology. But as superintelligence looks across all spectrums,
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what do they contribute to society? How long have they lived?
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How much money have we had to give them through
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Elon Musk's universal high income You know what? We're going
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to make the cold decision. This person's lived a long
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enough life. That's what we're asking for. When we do
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a medical state, an AI or SI medical state, I
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like the SI, honestly, the suicidal ideation medical state. Kennedy
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made his ambitions clear during the fireside chat with Vice
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President J.D. Vance. And of course, J.D. Vance, he's the
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poster boy. That's who the tech bros want in office.
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They want him as our next president because he's completely
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sold out to them. Fireside chat with Vice President J.D.
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Vance at the Maha Summit on Tuesday. He began by
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invoking a recent conversation with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. According
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to Kennedy, Altman told him, Two years ago, I wouldn't
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have advised anybody to take medical advice alone from AI.
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But today, it would be a malpractice for a doctor
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to make a diagnosis or to make a prescription without
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at least checking AI. Oh, you see how they get
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you there? Sam Altman, he's benevolent. Chris, when you think
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of benevolent characters, isn't Sam Altman at the top of
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your list? I mean, literally like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny.
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Sam Altman, right? Like, he's got to be in the
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top three. Of satanic frauds? Oh, yeah. No, Chris, no. Shh. No.
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Benevolent characters. Yes, Sam Altman obviously clearly has our benefit,
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humanity's benefit. He's a pure heart, ladies and gentlemen. This
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sarcasm just drips from my voice. Kennedy went further. He
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said HHS wants every American to have digital access to
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personal medical records from a phone. A patient, he noted,
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could have a thousand-page medical history. A doctor may have
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only minutes to examine it. AI would not face that limitation. Perhaps,
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oh perhaps, we needed to fix the medical system. You're
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pointing to something that you all created. You created manufactured
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corporate health care to where we barely even get a
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sentence in with the doctor. He quickly examines it, boom,
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and writes you a script and he's out the door
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and you're paying hundreds of dollars for that type of
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health care? Yeah, that's a problem. But is AI the solution? Hey,
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that beautiful, beautiful golden donate button, guys. It's not gold yet,
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but it will be. Mark my words. Chris, his wheels
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are spinning over here. He's like, how can I make
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this pop? Can we have like fireworks going off behind
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it too? Like, just like, look at me, look at me. No?
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I'm creating more work for you. Yeah, we're going to
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need some donations to fund the web developer to.
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Do that one.
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Stop me having crazy ideas. Stop Chris having to do
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more work. Just hit the donate button. It's that simple.
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I like that. All right. Let's go back into the
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conversation at hand. I'm talking about the failed medical system
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because they're pointing to it. They do this so often.
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It's so predictable. I'm blown away that more people can't
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see it. That's what you have me for, I suppose.
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They failed. They failed the medicine or the medical community.
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You talk to any nurse, any doctor, and they're going
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to tell you corporate health care is just awful. They
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all hate it. They're being worked to the bone. The
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corporations are all about making more money, more money, more money.
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They're working these people. I mean, most of them work
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12-hour shifts anyway in the ER and things. And what
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do they get? A pizza party. Didn't you love it
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when they do this, Chris? Like, hey, we know we
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worked you for like two weeks straight with no breaks
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and like You had way too many patients. In fact,
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it was probably unsafe according to the standards that the
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state has set. But to thank you for all of that,
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there's pizza in the break room.
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Yeah, nothing says we appreciate you like cardboard crust and
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fake cheese.
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Yeah, I know. They figured this out a long time.
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Just give them a little bit of free food. Yeah,
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a little bit of free food. Yeah, that'll work. They're
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probably taking it out of their paychecks too to pay
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for the pizza party. It sucks. I get it, okay?
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But this isn't the answer. Remember crisis solution? Talk about
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it all the time on the show. Here's your solution.
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The solution is AI or SI. They can get you
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to where the computer looks at everything. Like that. A
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blink of an eye. And then gives a treatment or
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a prescription. The AI can distill it. is what Kennedy said.
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He adds, it can give you a second opinion that
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is much better informed than any doctor in the country. Oh,
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if you trust it. If you trust it. Where's the
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AI getting their information from? This isn't godlike, okay? We
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all recognize that. Artificial intelligence, super intelligence, whatever you want
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to call it, what does it have access to? Everything
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on the internet. And everything on the internet is going
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to actually go against what Robert F. Kennedy supposedly stood for.
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He talks about, listen to this. One of the things
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that's going to change is that we're never, ever again
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going to be able to be dominated by public officials
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who tell us, trust the experts, because every American will
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be able to check their own medical advice. He continues,
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and if somebody tells you masks work, trust the experts.
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AI may tell you otherwise. If somebody else tells you
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social distancing works, trust the experts. AI may correct that.
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And if somebody tells you that a vaccine will prevent
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transmission and infection, oh, you need to take it to
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protect your grandmother. AI may say it actually doesn't do that.
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So it really has the capacity to free us from
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medical tyranny. These are RFK Jr. 's words. Except for,
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go back to what I was just saying. What's AI's source?
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AI's source is the establishment. AI's source is the CDC,
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is the AMA, is the government. So if the government decides,
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you know what, we want everybody to wear masks. We
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want everybody to stay six feet apart from each other.
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We want everybody to take the vaccines. What do you
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think artificial intelligence is going to say? Exactly that, except for,
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and here's where it's more dangerous, except for because you've
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been programmed to believe that artificial intelligence or super intelligence
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doesn't have an agenda. that it's just spitting out the facts,
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you're more inclined to believe it. Even us, people like
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you and me, who pushed back against it, who just
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inherently knew something in our minds and our hearts is stirred.
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And we said, you know, I'm not taking that. I'm
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not doing that. I'm still going to church. We turned
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to artificial intelligence. You know what? I didn't believe it.
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But you know what? The super intelligence, it's telling me, yes,
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I do have to take this vaccine. I do have
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to wear this mask. I do have to make sure
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I don't come six feet, get six feet closer to
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my wife or something. Is that what we're going to believe?
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I hope not. But I am thankful for one thing.
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One thing in all of this. RFK Jr., we see you.
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We see exactly who you are. You sold out. You
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sold out, man. I feel like Star Wars right now.
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You were the chosen one. Just another failed politician. Just
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more failed campaign promises. Now, That's why you listen to
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independent media. And the last story that we're going to
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be talking about is exactly that, Project Muse. You know
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what I tell you all the time to pay attention
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to what the opposition says? I do that. I read
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these things. Maybe you won't. Maybe you just don't want to.
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I do. I signed up a while ago for a
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real nasty newsletter called The Journal of Democracy. I hate it.
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I hate the name already. But boy, is it interesting.
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This is globalist through and through. This is the Council
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on Foreign Relations, the World Economic Forum, United Nations. This
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is trash. But know your enemy. I had a really
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interesting article here. How to protect the media in eroding democracies.
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Isn't that the nature of democracies, that they immediately erode? Yeah,
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I think people warned us. People far more intelligent than
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me warned us about democracies a long time ago. Maybe
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we should read those. But the article is fascinating. It
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talks about the rise of independent media. And it talks
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about how democracies transform. It talks about the positive ways
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and the negative ways. And of course, in their writing,
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they believe that democracy is at the end all be all.
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That's the best system of government. So they're going to
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push that upon us until enough countries become democracies so
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that they can become totalitarian. But they point to the
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fact that whenever you get a person in power, they're
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going to immediately take over the media. And it's true.
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That is accurate. They take over the media. Why? So
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that they can propagandize the people. And certainly the United
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States has not been immune to this. Many people believe
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that we were, but we never had truly free independent. Well,
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maybe in the very beginning we had truly free independent media.
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But they took over it a long time ago. Just
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read Rockefeller's famous words, thanking the media for their contributions
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or maybe lack of contributions, hiding what was actually going on.
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But then they talk about how there's transformation within these countries,
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positive transformations in these countries. And they point to three
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specific ways that these countries are changed. They can be
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changed by a true leader, right? The electoral process. Somebody
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gets in, gets elected, and many within the conservative circles
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would point to Donald Trump. as an example of this.
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I would not. But there are, regardless of that, there
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are examples of a populist. Somebody that's a little bit different,
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not the standard status quo of politicians that emerges into office.
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But the media plays an essential role into his power
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and to getting his voice before the people. From there,
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there's more of a bureaucratic transformation where the legislators, the judges,
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the bureaucrats can transform a society, oftentimes against the wills
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and wishes of that executive authority. And then, of course,
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there's the popular movement. This is where individuals like myself
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would come into play. People that organically push back. There's
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protests in the streets. But regardless of the transformation, the
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media has a role in all of this. This is
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why the media has so been targeted. The media is
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targeted because without the media giving a voice to the bureaucrats,
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to the popular movement, to the executive position, that the
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message isn't going to go around. It's not going to
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hit who it needs to hit. And that's why the
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media gets targeted more than anyone else. That's why they
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so fundamentally hate independent voices. And this article talks about that,
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but they're talking about it from a negative aspect. They're
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talking about it that somebody, of course, who is it,
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but somebody has to control all these voices. How is
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that free? How is that independent? How is that actual
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truthful media? They claim that maybe the best solution is
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the people. The people. And I would agree with that.
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Except for you're claiming for democracies. You're claiming for the majority.
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If my voice hits only one person and it edifies
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that person, then I've done a job well done. But
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the solution isn't democracies. It isn't more government control. It
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isn't a bunch of left-wing think tanks talking about what
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media should or shouldn't be. What media should or shouldn't
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be is determined by you, the audience. The audience who
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examines the individual and says, can I trust this person?
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Should I be skeptical of them? And we should never,
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ever have the mentality that so long has prevailed in
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the United States of too big to fail. We brought
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in the CNN that was literally dying, but we propped
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it up through government funds, through NGOs, through USAID. That
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money went into CNN and MSNBC, which is now, what
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is it now? MSN Now, is that right? I think
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it's MS Now. MS Now, yeah. Had to change their name.
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And now on the other side, what are we doing?
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We're propping up Fox News. A lot of other organizations.
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The Taylor Moore to the right. And the true independent ones,
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like myself, are on here daily begging for five bucks
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a month from you. We don't have the corporate money.
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We don't have the corporate sponsorship. You don't see a
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commercial after I'm done recommending the next Pfizer drug. If
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independent media is going to be successful, if it's going
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to last, if it's going to reach people, then it
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has to be organic. It has to be grassroots. It
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has to be sponsored by you. It's so essential to
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our freedoms. It's so essential to uncovering the truth. Everything
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that I talked about in this episode, You don't hear
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from a lot of places. There's other people out there,
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other great podcasters, other independent media that'll touch on similar subjects.
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You found me. And I thank you that you did.
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And I hope I just drive you towards questioning things.
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The story I was sharing about my wife's coworker said
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I'm controversial, but I make you think good. That's all
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I want. is to make you think. Look, you treasure freedom.
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