Outdrawn

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Hey, hey, hey, book lovers.
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Welcome to Hot on the Rock, the podcast where representation is crucial and it's always for the black.
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We got some hot tape, some spoilers, but don't worry, we'll always warn you, and deep combos on culture, identity, and everything in between.
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Grab your favorite drink, curl up with us, and let's talk books.
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The ones that move us, excite us, and keep us flipping pages way past our bedtime.
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So lower your expectations and let's get into the plot.
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Okay, we're on.
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Hey y'all.
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We back.
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Episode eight.
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What it do?
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Oh my god.
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Sorry, I'm sorry.
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I feel like it's that time of the day where it's like you're tired and you're delusional.
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Yeah.
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A little bit.
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So you're just pushing.
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Yeah.
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We're pushing through guys.
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So if y'all have it peeped already, yes.
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Yes.
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We're digging deep.
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We're digging deep.
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Did you ever do those workouts, those shanti workouts?
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Like T25?
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Yeah.
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And he could dig deeper.
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Dig deeper.
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That that word that phrase is traumatizing to me, honestly.
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Somebody said I was like, ugh for digging deeper.
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I used to let me a good workout video.
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Me too.
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I used to do um, what was that one?
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Um my mama used to do it, and I would do it with her sometimes.
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What is it called?
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Is it Tybo?
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Tybo, yes.
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Listen, they were the workouts on YouTube.
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I tried it a month ago.
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Did you like it?
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I liked it, but this it's not the same.
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I'm not I'm not the same person who was doing this back in like the 90s and 2000s.
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I'm like, how did I do this?
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Middle school me was struggling.
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So yeah, 35-year-old me is like, nah.
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Yeah.
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Immediately no.
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But I made it through and it was just, and then it was worse because it was the one with like the weights, and they had like two pound, three-pound weights.
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And at the time I didn't have two pound, three-pound weights.
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I had five.
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I was like, this is fine, I can do that.
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It's okay.
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No, no, it's a difference.
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Oh, oh, hold on now.
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Right.
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And he's still doing it.
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He's still he's still kicking, he's still doing his videos, Mr.
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Billy Blanks.
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I know that's shout out to Billy.
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So shit.
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Lord knows I can't keep up with that man.
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Well, y'all, welcome back to Plat on the Rock.
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Yes.
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Today we have a very cutesy, very sweet love story called Outdrawn by Deanna Gray.
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It was very nice.
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I liked it.
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It was cute.
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And this is like surprisingly enough.
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And let me make sure I'm not lying before I say it, I'm pretty sure.
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I think this is my first lesbian romance that I've ever read.
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Um I can't think of any others that I've read.
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But it was very cute.
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I can't think of any either.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So let's yeah, go ahead.
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No, you go ahead.
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Mm-mm, girl, because I was about to ramble.
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I feel it.
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I was like, and this one, it was like, of course, essentially they were like lesbian stuff like that, but it was very, I feel like that wasn't the center of the book.
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That wasn't all that it was about, which I really appreciated.
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Yes, yes.
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Well, see them actually build a relationship.
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I'm gonna correct you guys real quick because I feel like was the main point in the story.
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Sage is bisexual.
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Okay, and she does talk about feeling erased as a bisexual woman.
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Yes, we don't want to erase sage.
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This is true.
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Which there was, I will say there was one part where don't laugh at me.
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Like, I think was it a week ago?
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It was at the second sex scene.
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And granted, again, I've never read a sapphic romance.
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And I texted T and I was just like, please don't laugh at me.
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But I'm not understanding the position that they're in.
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Are they?
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And I was like, are they?
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I was like, are they sitting?
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That's what they were supposed to be doing.
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I was like sitting there, I'm like, wait, because she was like her thigh.
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I'm like, I I can't I can't ditch this in my head.
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I don't know.
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They weren't, audience.
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They weren't.
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I feel like that when I'm reading some other books where it's just like regular sex scenes, like boy and girl, because I'd be like, no, you said you live with the rings.
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How do you do that?
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What do we do?
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Right, and I kind of want to try it.
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Just write it down.
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You gotta do a little sketchy.
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No, because it's just like, oh, okay, because it's like you have to like you're wanting to enjoy the scene, but then you're also visualizing, you're just like, wait, uh-huh.
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Like you said, like, what's happening?
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And I also just I just felt embarrassed as like a 34-year-old person being like, I don't know what's happening.
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Like, please tell me that is funny.
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That is funny, hilarious.
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But you know, I really do I like the fact that um well, first, before we get it all into that, we always start talking, we never get we never start with the book.
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Y'all should know by now, but yeah, anyways, how many clings do we give the book, y'all?
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Oh, okay.
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Out of five, I'm gonna say I'm gonna give it a four.
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Yeah, I would do this in my little mine suck.
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I would give it I would give it a four.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna go four as well.
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Is this the first time we've all given a book the same rating?
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I think.
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I want to say maybe the second, the second time because we agreed on one earlier this season.
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Was it this season or last season?
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Because I feel like this season we've been on the struggle bus hard.
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No, I don't know about it.
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It was no, it was no, it was it was um I don't wish you well.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So yes, we this so this is our second agreement.
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You're all in agreement.
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I thought it was very cute, and and I really um I liked getting to know both of them as individuals before getting to see how they're interacting with each other.
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I like that about the book.
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Because I feel like a lot of romance books, um which again are usually heterosexual, I like they just kind of jump right into the relationship part and kind of rediscover them through the relationship, if that makes sense.
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Whereas for this one, this they were fleshed out whole people in my mind, yeah, and background stories and all this kind of stuff before they even got to the point where they were admitting that they have feelings for each other.
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I loved that, yeah, agreed, yes, okay, and I like that because like she didn't have to give a lot of explanation, like oh my god, I'm having uh a cider y'all, so I'm gonna be burping.
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I'm sorry.
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Okay.
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Where I had a burp attack where it's like you didn't have to have like a whole world-building buildup about who they were.
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Again, she just kind of jumped right into it.
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Where because there are moments where it's like, I don't need to know all this information about you.
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It's okay, it's fine.
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But it was like just enough for each one.
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But then you also invested in them.
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I'm mad for them with certain things, I'm giving them like their kudos when they're setting up for themselves.
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It was just it was really good.
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I like how it shined a lot, a lot on their craft as well.
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Like to be essentially black women in this type of creative space where they're they're creating comics.
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Like, I don't know a lot of black female comic writers.
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That's so cool to me.
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Black female comic writers in Florida.
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Yeah, that's that's a lot.
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I thought that was so cool.
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Yeah, and I learned a lot about the process, you know, the behind the scenes, I guess.
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Yeah, as somebody who likes comics, it's like, whoa, okay.
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I just never thought about the process that goes behind it, like the corporate part and the storyboards and the team and all that kind of stuff.
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So it was very it was very fun.
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Wait, should we tell them what the story is even about?
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Oh, yes, yes, we're sure.
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Yeah, please please give the people a synopsis.
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Yeah, okay.
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So we have Sage and Noah.
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I love both of those names, honestly.
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I feel like they can go for a boy or a girl, and I just feel like they're so cute.
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So we have Sage, who is essentially like the star of the show because she's super popular, she has been talented since she was really young, and then I went on to college and then at that workspace, and then you have Noah, who's essentially like up and coming, rising, and they're basically kind of sold a dream.
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Like this big comic book production place is like, okay, well, you're gonna be the leader of this new comic, and it's like, well, actually, you're gonna be the leader, and of course they're rivals, so they're kind of duking it out to see who is going to be able to get the top spot.
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So we learn about their families, their likes and dislikes, and we kind of see them go from like enemies to friends to lovers, is what I grasp.
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And you know, I I know I'm always talking about how I don't like friends to lovers.
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I thought you like friends to lovers, but no, I mean not friends to lovers, enemies to lovers.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I like friends to lovers.
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I do like friends to lovers, but I don't usually like enemies to lovers.
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Because, and this is this is a good example because there was one part at the beginning of the story where Sage really disrespected Noah, and I was like, see, this is why I don't do this because I would have beat her up.
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I would have beat her up in the book.
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Like, what do you mean?
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Don't disrespect me, hoe.
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Right.
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And then we're supposed to be friends after this, and then you're supposed to try to get in my bed?
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Absolutely not.
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I just want, I just want, you know what?
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Because at first I thought I was gonna say, I I just need y'all to understand how my mind works.
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At first, I was starting this whole story off to say that I usually don't like enemies to lovers, but I like this one.
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But now I'm going back to I don't like enemies to lovers.
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Oh, because why would you do that to me?
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Why would you do that to me?
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Now I'm mad.
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It was because part of I think in full enemies to lovers, it was kind of like you know what it reminded me of?
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Remember Hey Arnold?
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Yes, yeah, it reminded me of Helga and Arnold, and Sadie Helga needs to be beat up.
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Yes, she needs to be beat up, but Sadie Lomette.
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Listen, listen, her daddy was a workout subject, her mama was a drunk.
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Her sister was I did not get it.
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I was like, her mama really wasn't that these kids was going through it, and I want to rewatch it with adult eyes because I used to love Hate Arnold, but like a lot of things I didn't really pick up on.
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Yeah, no, I want to rewatch it.
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Yeah, but she she reminded me of Helga, where it's like she really she liked Sage, but she didn't want to like Sage because of her own issues, and that's kind of like Helga, like Helga had her own shit, she had her own issues, clearly.
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But she but she but Sage loved Noah from afar and had all had a crush on her in college, so she was just being stubborn, she was being a child, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I don't I don't know.
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It it worked out, I'll say that.
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It worked out clearly, however, I was like, girl, you like this?
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Okay, I was one of those like uh you like it, I love it.
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I've told you before for me, Enemies to Lovers is kind of like it's like Mr.
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and Mrs.
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Smith.
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I like it.
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Mr.
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and Miss Smith was a good movie.
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Granted, if I was in that situation, no, absolutely not.
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But I like reading about it, I like watching it, but I would never be in that situation.
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Yeah, no, I cut people off too fast.
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I would have never seen Sage again.
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I would have never spoken.
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Dead to me.
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Dead to me.
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You can't put your job, you just got your job.
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Oh girl, I'm so good at ignoring people.
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I'm so good at it.
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Oh, because you were talking to me.
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She would have just seen the back of my head every day.
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Oh my god.
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But it did end up well.
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It ended up, you know, going well, it ended up cute or whatever.
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She it took me a second, but like I I just yeah, I just thought it was cute and their whole little um the evolution of their being able to communicate with each other, I guess.
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And I guess that will lead me into the first question, which is how do you think family dynamics show up in romantic relationships and how did it affect Noah and Sage?
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Do you mean romantic relationships in general or like in the story?
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I say both because their family dynamics showed up heavily in how they were reacting to each other and how they were communicating.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Like as a whole, it definitely is a thing.
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I mean, I know for me, I'm an oldest daughter.
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So I kind of immediately related to um Sage.
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I related to her.
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I grew up with three little brothers and a daddy who had drug issues, and a mama had to work a lot.
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So it was like, okay.
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Oh yeah, no, it was no room for mistakes, was no room for error.
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I had to come home, I had to do what I had to do, and then I had to live my life also as a teenager.
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So I got it, and I realized that what that showed up, kind of what happened with Sage in the story.
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So in the story, if if you guys, I mean y'all know we do spoilers, but just again, spoiler.
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Sage had one of the big plot points was Sage overcoming her shame around a mental episode that she had where she got extremely depressed, destroyed her own work, fell out with the company, and this is now stopping her from getting her own lead story.
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And this happened to her because she was so she was overextending herself.
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She was overextending herself to her family, didn't have enough energy for herself, didn't have enough energy for work, and she just she burnt out.
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And I've burnt out before.
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And in you know, in their relationship, I think it was kind of like okay, her first instinct is to overgive and not allow room to be supported, and they had to learn, you know.
00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:14.240
Yeah.
00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.679
I related to Noah a lot when it came to the criticism.
00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:31.360
I had love my I was have to preface it, let my love my parents down.
00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:33.919
Love my parents down.
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Let me let me say that as well.
00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.120
New listeners, new listeners, me and my daddy loved each other, me and my mama love each other.
00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:43.679
It was just, you know, stuff that happened, but yeah.
00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:54.639
And it was one of those things where it's like, okay, well, I'm giving you these things and I'm giving you these opportunities so you can be better than me.
00:16:55.519 --> 00:17:07.359
And there is this kind of like perfectionism that I have now because of that, and how that turns into like Noah how like she's overly critical of herself.
00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:12.880
Any little thing that Sage would say to her immediately spiral to like I'm not good enough.
00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:47.519
And there have been moments where it's like my husband and I are like we would get into little tips and it would be something so small, and my brain would skew it as like as like an immediate criticism, and then you just beat yourself down, and he's just like, I didn't say any of that, but it twists it in your head, and again, I love my parents, but but parents also aren't perfect when they do things and how that's gonna affect your psyche as a child, especially when like your brain is literally still developing and how that forms when your brain is fully developed.
00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:58.880
So I think in their relationship dynamic, you see that with Noah's family, like Sage's family like irritated me, but Noah's family, Noah's family.
00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:07.359
I was ready to fight when they came over to her house for her birthday, and then her sister called this place a piece like a piece of shit.
00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:08.319
Get out.
00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:29.599
Yeah, you're not gonna come over here on my birthday and then do that immediately, and that but I loved it when Sage was like, let her finish talking, and I was like, Okay, like I love that, but like, or it's like again, like she has this job that she loves, and they're just waiting for her to mess up because to them an artsy job isn't sustainable.
00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:41.440
And I know when I like really decided, like, you know, I don't really want to go back to corporate at all, I want to do something that I really like, and it was still just like, well, why don't you apply for this?
00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:43.039
Why don't you go back to teaching?
00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.519
Why and it's like I don't want to do it.
00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.000
If I wanted to do it, I would have done it.
00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.720
But I'm not stressed out.
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I go to work, I come home.
00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:53.759
That's it.
00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:55.440
But that's the life.
00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.559
Yeah, that is like you're enjoying it, yeah.
00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:00.319
Yeah, and like, well, granted, were they stressed out?
00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:01.359
They were stressed out too.
00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:04.319
The girl got carpal tunnel for Christ's sake.
00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:26.799
But I saw that to say you see those relationship dynamics play out, but again, again, love my parents, but your family are really are your first set of bullies, and they really put into perspective how you feel about yourself, and then you have to do the work to get out of that way of thinking.
00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.640
But Noah and Sage have each other to work that out together.
00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:38.160
But I also I think wasn't there like one point when Sage was like, you know, there are certain things I have to take care of on my own, like it's not your responsibility, or am I making that up?
00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:39.039
Yeah, I thought you were not a little bit more than that.
00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:45.599
There was one part they said that at some part, but yeah, I'm rambling now because obviously I'm treating this as a damn therapy session.
00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:47.119
That appointment's next week.
00:19:47.279 --> 00:20:01.759
So for kids, you you you know, I feel like I wholehearted believe that when people say you're not, granted, I'm not married, but like dating.
00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:04.400
When you're dating somebody, you're not only just dating them, you're dating your family.
00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:07.440
Essentially, when you get married, you're not just marrying them, you're marrying their family.
00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:15.759
And the way that people are brought up shapes the way that they do things, like little things.
00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:20.160
Like some people, you put ketchup in the refrigerator, or just ketchup go in the cabinet.
00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:22.240
Where do you put your syrup?
00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:24.079
Who pays for what?
00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:24.640
Who does it?
00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:35.279
All of those things that you see from your different family dynamics show up in your relationship, and then you essentially have to figure out what's going to work best for you all.
00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:44.799
So I feel like their biggest pain points again was that constant pushing, like whatever you may enjoy it, but we don't like it, so you don't need to do it on Noah's end.
00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:53.200
And then Sage, her constantly having to show up over and over again for people who I feel like didn't necessarily show up for her when she really needed it.
00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:58.240
And I feel like too, that was like the biggest thing because we got to see all of that.
00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:03.440
You see why they acted this way versus that way, and I really like that.
00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:10.079
Yeah, even in their communication style, too, because Sage's family was very like, we're not gonna talk about it, we're gonna sleep under the rug.
00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.000
So if something was bothering her, she was like, No, whatever.
00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:24.960
And then I think Noah was the one where it's like, no, we're gonna talk about this like now because her anxiety was so bad that it was like, No, we need to do this like right now, so I can feel better.
00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:28.160
I don't care if you're uncomfortable right now, but I need to feel better.
00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:36.000
And you see that how that plays out with how their families are, and I feel like they got better after they told their families off.
00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:37.119
Perspective.
00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.039
Yeah, yes.
00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:42.559
I think I think Deanna did uh Diana.
00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:43.359
I'm sorry.
00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:45.279
I I think I'm saying Diana.
00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:47.119
Um Diana, yeah.
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Um, I hope that's the right if you're listening.
00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:50.319
I'm sorry.
00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.000
We tried yes, Miss Gray.
00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:59.759
Miss Gray, I think Miss Gray did a great job of illustrating those dynamics and how they actually work.
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:22.319
Because I feel like a lot of times in romance books, especially, it is a it's a lot of focus on just the two, which I mean that's fine and everything, but we don't get to understand why it is that they're being drawn to each other, where the friction is coming from, if there is any.
00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:27.039
Sometimes it's just very like too zoomed in, I guess.
00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.079
I mean because I mean in real life, it is like this.
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:44.319
In real life, you're gonna be attracted to somebody who is probably going to be there to um maybe call attention to some things you might need to work on, um, who will, you know, help you because that's how you heal, right?
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.160
You gotta actually like work through it.
00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:52.480
You don't heal in a vacuum, you heal through basically being triggered and learning how to handle the triggers.
00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:57.519
So me yesterday is just oh lord.
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I mean, that's how it be.
00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.279
I miss whatever is happening right now.
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.599
No, you missed what happened yesterday.
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:18.880
Girl, I was I was a trigger, a tis and trigger, and I was like, wait, no, I'm working on listen therapy.
00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:20.079
Oh, yeah, you did do good.
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:21.039
You did do good.
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:25.839
I was like, we're saying I'm remembering.
00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:29.680
I was trying to wait for you to tell me what you were talking about.
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:33.839
Cause you was like, what happened yesterday?
00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:37.920
All of her memories are so bad.
00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.759
All of her memories are so bad, we would be amazing at committing crimes.
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:45.519
We never forget everything.
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What am I called because was telling me?
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:53.200
Yeah, she was just like, yeah, when I told when I told you guys yesterday, I'm just like, When what did you tell us yesterday?
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:54.240
Like, I don't know what's going on.
00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:55.839
And I was like, Oh, okay.
00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:01.839
That's like if I had to like calm myself down, I was like, Yeah, you heal through your triggers.
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.160
And I was triggered and I I did it.
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.039
I healed myself.
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:13.759
I mean it really be like that.
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.440
I I realized really early on.
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:23.119
I realized really early on that me and my husband was there, like we were supposed to be together.
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:24.720
Like there was no doubt about it that.
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:38.640
But like the way that we literally over the years, our growth has been through figuring out, like you said earlier, Rakia, what we're both bringing from our individual families and finding out what we're actually gonna keep for ours.
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:41.119
That's been the biggest thing.
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:48.559
And yeah, you gotta put them boundaries up with your original family to get to that point, you know.
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.680
So I thought that was beautifully illustrated.
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:58.160
And I I just I really liked the way that this book approached their relationship.
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:02.000
Like, I just don't think I've read a book that did it that well.
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:02.720
I really don't.
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:08.960
And it was still lighthearted, like it was still um a like you know what I'm saying?
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:10.400
Like it was still an easy read.
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:12.799
It didn't give you anxiety about it.
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:20.400
I didn't feel I don't know, you know, you read some romance books and you're just like, oh my god, what is gonna happen?
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:21.279
Like, what's next?
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.799
I didn't feel that it felt like a very nice, peaceful journey.
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:28.640
It's like a rom-com.
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:33.039
It's like a snapshot of yeah, yeah, a traditional rom-com, yes.
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:38.640
And you said something a second ago, Tia, where you said that they were drawn to each other.
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:43.759
I feel like her drawn had two different meanings, like drawn, and then they were drawn to each other.
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.960
I was like, um, I like the play on words, yeah.
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:49.279
I love it.
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:51.759
And then honestly, too, like you're so cute.
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.400
But I love too, but especially the description of the two.
00:25:54.480 --> 00:26:14.400
I love that Noah was a bubbly black girl who had her pastels, who had her pink, who was like girly and bubbly, and like nobody because I think you sent me a video a while back where it's like bubbly black girls like intimidate people for some reason, or not intimidate people, it's like they're not taken seriously because they're so bubbly.
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:14.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:26.319
And I think there are moments where it's like her family underestimated her because of it, but her peers didn't, which I loved about that.
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.559
Yeah, so they knew her, you know, her potential immediately.
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:39.839
Yeah, and it is true, like I as a as a bubbly black girl, somebody who used to get you're always happy all the time.
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:41.119
Like I used to get that all the time.
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.200
Why are you so you're always so smiley in in an aggravated way?
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:58.400
I I've learned to appreciate that because what usually happens is because I am always bubbly and I know how to manage my emotions and kind of keep it like I'ma keep it light.
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.200
I don't care, you're not gonna really get me out of my square.
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:08.640
But people will take see that and assume you are one way, and so they'll be whoever they are.
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:21.119
And maybe certain personalities might try to take advantage or try to be a certain way, but then they don't realize just because I'm sweet, don't mean I won't cuss you out.
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.000
And it just like it brings like, yes, I love it.
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:30.400
Please show me that you want that you're that type of person because I can tell you what it is and get you out of my life real, real fast.
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:30.960
Exactly.
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:32.720
It's what she did with her sister.
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:34.960
Yeah, it's what she did with her sister.
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.559
Which I want to push you down the stairs.
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:40.960
I would have pushed her slower.
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.400
Like she bit she irritated me, like she always had a bad attitude.
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:45.920
You're complaining that it's homes.
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:51.599
And we're outside, and like blah blah blah, and like shut up.
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:52.559
Ugh.
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.799
Yeah, but we don't equal, I'ma take your bullshit.
00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.640
Right, you're not gonna talk to me any kind of way just because I'm a happy person.
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.640
I'm a happy person because I make sure I don't deal with bullshit.
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:07.759
Yes, at all.
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:11.440
What's the next question?
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:14.000
The next question.
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:19.119
How would you guys feel about working so closely with your significant other?
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.000
No, answer that very quickly.
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:40.480
No immediately, no, immediately no, no, if we if we were in like a large company with like 500 to a thousand employees and we were in two completely different departments, maybe, and I never I gotta see you for nine hours out of the day and then go home.
00:28:41.839 --> 00:29:04.799
Like, no, it was annoying when we were both working from home in two separate rooms, we were still in the same house, but like no, literally, I don't think I would like because even if like I still feel like in my head, separate buildings, you're still if you're on the same schedule, I still feel like it's oh we can have lunch, granted, sometimes that'd be nice, but we can carpal.
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:07.599
Actually, no, I want to listen to trap music on the way.
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:09.680
You might want to listen to your little motivational music on the way.
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:11.920
I don't want to do that on the way to work, okay?
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:18.240
And you might want to no, no, just no, no, space time together.
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.839
Yes, yes, yes, space is important.
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.440
I don't, I couldn't do it.
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.240
Oh my god, especially not that close, like they was working.
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:27.039
Oh, hell no.
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:28.000
No, I think turn it.
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:28.640
Jeremy don't mind.
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.240
We can't we don't even cook together.
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.079
We don't cook together.
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:33.839
I don't drive.
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:35.039
He driving it.
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:36.480
I just because I don't want to hear it.
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.720
I don't want to hear it like you know, he we just work too too differently.
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:46.559
I absolutely oh you're better than me because I I'm a backseat driver, it drives Jeremy insane.
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.440
Because he makes me nervous, he makes me nervous when he drives.
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:52.880
That's why I just don't drive.
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.519
He drives everywhere, but you don't get nervous.
00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:01.440
He takes too long to break, he's speeding up at certain moments, and it's like I I can't do this.
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:03.440
Like I'm not pushing on the imaginary.
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.359
Do you not see this person?
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.359
I don't know where you're going, you're going the wrong way.
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:10.799
And no, he's like, No, girl, that don't piss me down a lot.
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:11.200
I can't.
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.599
I know I do piss me at the time.
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.119
Oh, Terrence is so bad with it.
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.160
He's so bad with it.
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.839
Like, I mean, literally, the mo we don't mean Terrence don't argue a lot.
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.440
No, we don't really argue a lot.
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.839
We usually um can we know talk in you know, a little disagreement.
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.720
All right, maybe a little, okay, you're getting on my nerves a little, you know, every now and then, but we don't really argue like that.
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.400
But like driving, if I'm driving somewhere, oh no.
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:36.319
No, I'm about to cuss him out.
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:39.359
Cause like, why are you am I you ain't never seen me get a rain?
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:40.319
Shut up.
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:41.839
Shut the fuck out.
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.319
I'm trying to think of the solution is I do not drive.
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:47.200
He drives.
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:49.359
I'm trying to think if there's ever been a time.
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:54.799
Yeah, but I I don't know if I've ever really if we're both going somewhere together.
00:30:54.880 --> 00:31:07.519
I'm trying to think like if I've ever driven him anywhere, like where he's been in the passenger seat, or if it's just he always let me tell Jeremy to let you drive.
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.000
I have because you know I'm a control freak.
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:19.599
I gotta, I gotta, you know, like and he it drives him nuts whenever I tell him he's taking 12 break, or like if he's taking me to work, why did you go this way?
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.279
You have to go this way around this roundabout.
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.279
Mind you, it's gonna take us to the same destination.
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.039
I know it's gonna take us to the same destination.
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.279
But GPS said to go this way.
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:30.559
You mustn't.
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:31.759
Oh my god.
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:33.039
Let me give him a head.
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.039
Let me let me do my job.
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:36.880
It doesn't even matter.
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.799
My dog was like, let me give us my head, please.
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:41.440
Come on.
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:55.519
And then he messes with me when I when I get home, he like he like fusses at me, or like he'll he'll try to be like you know, cutesy and like sexy at like the worst times, and it's like, what makes you think it's this time that I'm okay with this?
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.519
So it balances itself out, yeah.
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:05.119
So yeah, we don't cook together either, too, because I get out of my space.
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.720
No, no, that is funny.
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:24.559
That is no, I mean Terrence worked together one time, a long, long time ago, but we were on two different teams, so like, and this is also when we first started dating, so we was like in that honeymoon thing.
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.640
Yeah, so meeting for lunch and stuff.
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.400
That would never fly today, much as I love him.
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:34.559
Would never go.
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.599
No, wouldn't do it.
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:43.119
Yeah, no, I've even thought about like having you kind of work together.
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:46.160
You kind of work together now because he does our stuff for our podcast.
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.559
Yeah, but you know what I do?
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.799
I text him the the numbers, uh, delete this, that, that, that.
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:54.400
Now you text me, he's right back.
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:55.599
I leave him alone.
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.839
Yes, yes, I text him and then I leave him to it.
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:01.680
Okay, okay.
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:03.279
I leave him to it, okay?
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.160
Okay, that means he's a perfectionist.
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.559
I can't he's a perfectionist.
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.000
And he won't if if I didn't, he would be like, Tia, come here.
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:12.960
Every five seconds.
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.559
Listen, it this will jump out.
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:17.440
No, no, nigga.
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.000
Dope, but let me just text Tia, I'm gonna text you everything.
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:20.640
Here you go.
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:21.359
This is what you need.
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.240
You need anything else?
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:22.799
All right.
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.519
No, oh my god.
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:36.480
Yeah, there's even been times where I've started like advice for like for this, and then I don't take it.
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.240
And then he's like, Well, why'd you ask me then?
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:42.240
You're asking me all, and it's like, well, I it didn't work, I don't know, I just didn't take it at the time.
00:33:42.319 --> 00:34:03.680
So if I if I'm already doing that, and are there things I think he can help with, yeah, but like also no well, I can I think this is a good next question.
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:17.360
In their working together, do you guys think that Noel was competing with Sage or was she competing with the version of Sage that she had created over the years?
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:32.000
I think who she created because I hadn't spoken for a long time, so that you evolve, you change, so she doesn't know who Sage is now.
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.039
She knows who she used to be.
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.719
And that's who he was trying, she was trying to beat this whole time.
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:42.559
I agree, yeah.
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:48.000
And I feel like too, even when they were in school, because you know people are like, oh, I know her.
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:49.519
I know of her.
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:54.320
I have no clue what that lady got going on or that man got going on in their life.
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:56.400
I know of them or I knew them.
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:57.280
I have no clue.
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.840
That's a 10, 15 years.
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.599
Please, I was going to the calf eating chicken on Wednesday and dancing on the booth.
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:11.199
Like, ah I mean, I still might do some of that now, but I mean, you know, it's it's it's a change in life.
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:12.320
No, no, no, no.
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:31.519
Yeah, I agree, I agree, and I think I think they were both kind of competing because although Sage was going into this as oh my gosh, I mean, Noah was going into this opportunity as like, oh my gosh, Sage is here.
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.920
I'm gonna have to be on my you know, P's and Q's, I'm gonna have to be perfect.
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.119
I can't I can't mess up at all, I have to be perfect kind of thing.
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.000
She didn't even realize that she was pressure to Sage.
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.760
Like she had her own paid, you know, pressure about her.
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:51.920
And she didn't even realize that she was so focused on her anxiety about her.
00:35:52.159 --> 00:36:16.719
And I think that was such a good lesson, honestly, because I think I think we all have like one person who we're like, oh my gosh, like wow, I wish I could do that, or I wish I could maybe be on that level here, or you know, and maybe not even and not even on a competition type level, just as a I don't know, like out of admiration type, yeah.
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.840
But you just never know what that other person is going through.
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.920
You just really can't compare.
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:34.159
You can't, because you just don't you don't know what people are going through, you don't know what they're dealing with, you don't know what they're thinking, what they've actually done to get to their position.
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:35.519
You don't know.
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:42.880
Cause even like with Sage, there were parts where she was competing with Noah, but then eventually she just kind of was just like, whatever.
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:55.119
And then when the other guy on the writing competition, I forgot his name, um, when he came in, beginning with a K or something like that, she was more worried about like this guy getting into their top spot.
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.719
So eventually, it really wasn't no was there like an issue after that.
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:08.159
Because I think also because Sage had her burnout um episode, she never really fully recovered from it.
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.360
I think she was still burnt out and still just kind of coasting because it's all she can give at the time.
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:20.400
I think she saw like a hunger and noah that she used to have, so she was like, Let me give you these tips to keep up with me.
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:21.920
But you're you're still really good.
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.000
Like you're you're better than you think you are.
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:29.920
And I think eventually she was almost like passing the baton to her, consciously or subconsciously.
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:30.880
I don't know.
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:37.679
Because once they stopped beeping, like they were really able to, like, okay, you're really good at this, I'm really good at this.
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.480
Take what's good for you, what's good for me, we can put it together.
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.119
Yeah, exactly.
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:52.320
And I thought that was um, I thought that was super sweet because they were, you know, I mean, working side by side.
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.880
That's crazy in and of itself.
00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:18.000
But then like they're both dealing with their family stuff, they both want to win this competition, they both want to, you know, get their their you know, own comics on at the company, and um the part where they actually offer to Noah, um, you know, her first inclination is fear.
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:23.280
She's like, oh no, like I hope Sage doesn't hate me for this.
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:27.119
I hope, you know, this doesn't ruin our you know relationship, etc.
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:27.519
etc.
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:33.599
And Sage is like, no, like I'm happy that this happened for you.
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.320
Like, do I wish it was me?
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:42.800
Maybe a little bit, but also I love you and you deserve it.
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:54.800
So it's like they there was a support there that she still, even though she knew, I guess she wasn't all the way sure about it until that moment.
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:03.440
Yeah, and even like what the hell was I gonna say?
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.960
That thought just went out of here.
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:14.559
That was just like I was so focused on the bird.
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.119
Yeah, was it something so insightful?
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.480
I don't even know.
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.280
Girl, I was talking about Sage.
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.199
Sage was doing, I don't know.
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:34.800
Oh when Sage When Sage finds out right afterwards that she didn't get it, I think that was another realization too, where it's like one.
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:41.119
I don't think she should have been so hard on herself because like, yeah, she shot herself in the foot, but you had a mental breakdown.
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:47.199
And is it fair that the company doesn't want to invest in you now because of it?
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:54.159
No, it's not fair, and it's also like at the end of the day, it's a corporation, they don't care about anything that you're going.
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.960
Nobody you messed up my money, you deleted all of this stuff.
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:11.840
Absolutely not, and it's kind of one again, it's one of those situations where like her her boss and her friend is like, I think you should pack there's nowhere else for you to go here, you need to go somewhere else.
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:23.360
And I wonder like if she was even staying at that job too, out of like financial stability because she was the one that was still putting money in that saving account with her family, which I'm again, I'm petty.
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:24.960
I wouldn't do, I wouldn't do that.
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:25.920
I wouldn't do that.
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:26.719
She did stop.
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.880
She did stop, she did stop it then.
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:29.519
She did stop.
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:36.800
Well, I got to the part where it's like she told she went to her brother and telling him that that she was gonna stop and he's like in the hospital and he's an asshole about it.
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.559
It's like you would you you're waiting to tell me this now while I'm in the hospital.
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.440
Well, there's never a good time to t to tell you about giving you any money anymore.
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:43.920
Right.
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:51.920
Yeah, but so don't treat me like the dickhead because I'm telling you put yourself in this situation, yeah.
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:52.480
First of all.
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.440
So I got to that part, but it's like I'm glad that she eventually like stopped.
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:03.039
But it was again, it was one of those things where it's like, damn, like I did all this stuff for you for years, for decades.
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.960
And now that I'm just like, you know what?
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.480
Yeah, um because I feel like I'm kicking you when you're down, but I gotta take care of myself.
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:13.360
Yeah.
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:19.119
And it's like, yeah, maybe she was staying at that job because she knew that stability for her family.
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:24.079
But now that she was like, you know what, no, I'm gonna do me, it's fine.
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.280
I think maybe she was just like, Yeah, okay.
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:29.679
I'm out.
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.800
I can move on, and you know, I was proud of her for that.
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:33.920
Yeah.
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.599
I was very proud of her for that.
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:45.519
Because it it does get to a point again, the oldest daughter syndrome is very hard to break.
00:41:46.159 --> 00:42:07.039
And I I have I realized that even in my friendships, um, especially when I was younger, I would always find myself in the position to be mothering my friends or being the responsible one of the group or taking care of everybody, but didn't really know how to let other people take care of me.
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.800
And that's so hard to break.
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.119
And it really does become like your identity.
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:21.599
So for her to get to that point where she's able to see her brother in active distress and still be able to go in there and say, Listen, I actually can't do this anymore.
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.079
Big growth, big growth.
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:25.679
Big growth.
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.159
Because that does not come naturally after that many years of being the caretaker.
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:56.960
And there's there's a quote I saw where it's like for I don't know if it was like for narcissists or someone like that, but for people that like kind of take advantage of you, boundaries look like selfishness to them because they just they've had access to you for so long, and now you're fine, like, no, it's like no, then it seemed like it seems like a selfish act to them.
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.840
And it's like no, it's kind of the way of the world.
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:06.400
It's like a freaking mother bird kicking her baby out of the nest.
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.639
You're either gonna flap your wings or you're gonna go splat.
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:09.920
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:11.119
They're not worried about it.
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:13.760
Oh well.
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:15.280
Because the bird is fine, yeah.
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.599
Yeah, and they are, they're gonna be alright, yeah.
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.920
So oh well.
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:26.480
Gotta give people the opportunity to do without you, which is basically what she said.
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:30.559
You know, they never had a reason to get it together because she was there to save them.
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:31.360
Yeah.
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:32.559
Exactly.
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.320
That includes her mother.
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.800
That was another thing, too.
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:46.320
When she's at home and she goes to see her mom, and her mom's doing all this stuff, and you have the men sitting in the living room just watching TV.
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:46.719
I don't care.
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.360
I don't care if you're saying, Oh, mom likes to do all this stuff on her.
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.599
No, what are you doing?
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:52.880
Get your ass.
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:55.039
Ain't no way.
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:57.599
I'm gonna flip everything over.
00:43:58.159 --> 00:43:58.719
What are y'all doing?
00:43:59.119 --> 00:43:59.519
Everything.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.639
Yeah.
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:03.519
Oh my god.
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:04.320
The mommy.
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:05.760
Yeah, that scene pissed me off.
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.280
But oh my god.
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.880
That scene pissed me off because I'm trying to I'm struggling to understand.
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:15.360
Like Florida now, Florida is very different than North Carolina.
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.320
I will I will attest to however it is the South.
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:24.639
And one thing, you know, we don't play that sitting around letting women do the heavy stuff.
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:26.159
Never in my life.
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.480
Now, one thing my daddy ain't played that.
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:29.920
My daddy and I played that.
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.360
My brothers did everything.
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:36.000
As a matter of fact, before me and Terrence got married, my brothers was coming to fill up my tank.
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:37.280
They was coming to clean my car.
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:38.480
They was doing, you know what I'm saying?
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:39.679
Like certain things.
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.159
As a man, like that's so weird to me.
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:42.880
That's nasty.
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:44.000
Of course.
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:46.880
Disgusting.
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:56.800
There are, and here's the thing that that was something that took me a while to get used to, too, because Jeremy mainly fills up the gas in the car.
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.360
So go get the car washed.
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:04.400
There are certain things that I don't know the cost of because he takes care of it.
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:16.159
But growing up again, growing up from New York back home, where everybody's grinding, both men and women, the hyper-independent person in me for the longest time was just like, no, I don't like not knowing things.
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.599
Because what do you mean?
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.280
Ask me how much gas is.
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:20.239
I don't know.
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.800
I don't know how much car thing is.
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:25.199
But even now, like I'll talk about that.
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.119
He's like, oh, did Jeremy take your car for a wash?
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:28.480
I was like, Yeah, he's gonna do it.
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.280
Or he'll wash it himself.
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.960
And then Florida, we'll talk about Florida in our next episode.
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.119
Because you already know how I feel about that place.
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.360
Um yeah, it was was whose family dynamic frustrated you more, Sage or Noah.
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.760
Noah, just because it was triggering for me.
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.519
Very triggering for me, made my eye twitch.
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.039
It's like sage for me.
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:09.280
I don't like lazy people.
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:16.639
And if it's something you can essentially do and you choose not to, same.
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.159
Same.
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.360
It irked me on a real bad level.
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.960
Like, oh, it was it was it was terrible.
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.679
Like, what do you mean I'm the only daughter?
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:36.079
And y'all niggas ain't trying to help me with these financials for your parents, and you can't even get up and help your mama with a box.
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.159
Nigga, everybody getting cussed out.
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:40.000
Everybody getting cussed out.
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:40.960
Like, what are you doing?
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:41.920
What's happening?
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:42.719
Yeah.
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:43.679
Yeah.
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:44.480
No way.
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:45.039
Yeah.
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.599
Like Sage, it's I feel like Sage, I mean, Noah's family.
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:50.639
I keep getting the mixed up.
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:58.000
Noah's family was annoying, but I feel like, oh, and again, this because that's not the dynamic I'm used to.
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.800
I would have been like, girl, what get the fuck out of my house if all you're gonna do is talk shit now.
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:03.519
Yeah.
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:05.519
And then that would just be solved.
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.280
But like on Sage's, that's like that's a whole dynamic.
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.199
That's a whole like, y'all need therapy.
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.519
We need we need to uh I don't know what we need to do.
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:14.480
Y'all gotta get out.
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:15.119
I don't know.
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:28.079
Like a lot of leave the home, like it was a lot, but I will say, like, from somebody who grew up like Noah, like going to private school and having like families that had uh expectations of you.
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:32.159
I think with her dynamic, it was all of these voices coming at her at once.
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.719
That it's like her voice is like it gets smaller.
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:38.639
And that makes sense.
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.360
Even now, like at this age, I'm still very much working on it.
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:46.960
Like, I get very triggered if I feel like I'm not being heard or listened to.
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:58.480
Like the the dumbest thing to somebody else, where it's like, okay, with my PCOS, I have inflammatory PCOS, so gluten and dairy irritate my stomach.
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.840
With my dad, you've had gluten and dairy all your life.
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:04.000
Now all of a sudden it's it's not real.
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.880
So but I'm telling you that something I'm feeling is bothering, but you're not hearing me.
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:10.960
So it's like if it takes you back to feeling like a kid.
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:22.880
So there were moments where she was where her family was doing that, where I could feel her getting smaller because it's like there's no point of arguing back because you're not gonna hear me, you're not gonna listen to me, you're not gonna hear what I'm saying.
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:37.199
Yeah, and on top of that, yes, and then with her too, I think you had reposted something on on TikTok to you, or it was like or Facebook something where it was like, which we all know, like jobs are modern-day slavery.
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:48.880
Yes, we know that, but jobs are also a way your job title is the initial introduction of how someone is gonna choose how they're gonna respect you.
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.920
So you saw how her mom talked about her little artsy job.
00:48:54.079 --> 00:49:07.679
You just get to draw all day, you don't have a hard time doing anything, and it's like, okay, like I'm not out here doing a heart surgery, but what I'm doing is still work, but you're not taking it seriously because it's not important to you.
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:14.960
Yes, and on top of that, she felt like you know, I think the moments were like, I just felt like you're still making good money.
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:29.519
Like, and to me, people all over the world know who I am mom, dad, sister, what people want my autograph, people want my autograph.
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.360
Yes, I'm famous, inspiring the children.
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:39.280
Literally, like, what what what are they scientists or like a botanist or like some shit?
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:41.679
Like, okay, go with your plants.
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.159
Literally, I'd be like, I'm famous.
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.159
That's all she had to say.
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.559
Google me now, right?
00:49:51.039 --> 00:50:02.400
Literally, Google me, please, please, but yeah, Noah's family was just like ugh, and then say, and now I was opposite with sages, I would fight every single one of them.
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.880
Not the mom, not the mom.
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.079
The mom is fine, the mom was okay.
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:13.760
But the brothers, the minute Ash took that money out of the out of the savings account, you're not answering my phone.
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:17.280
I'm taking PTO from work, and I'm finding you.
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:18.719
Please.
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:21.119
Exactly.
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.519
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:26.880
Yeah, I agree.
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:28.639
It was a good book.
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:29.519
It was a really good book.
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:30.159
It was cute.
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.360
I um I think I'm gonna read some more about her.
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.000
Yeah, because that was different.
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:38.079
That was different, and I liked it.
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.239
It was because I feel like a lot of the romance mix we read too are like they have more.
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:47.519
I don't want to say this didn't have substance because it did have substance, substance.
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:50.239
They have heavy substance to it.
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.000
Yeah, whereas like you said, like this this was very hard to be.
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:55.599
Yeah, like it was so cute.
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:56.480
Hold on, let me see.
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:58.079
This will make a cute movie.
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.119
I agree, like this will make a cute little YA movie.
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.079
I don't girl, this is not a YA book.
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:05.119
What are you talking about?
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:06.079
I know, I'm just saying.
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No, I I agree with what, but I mean like movie-wise.
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.719
Okay, like movie-wise, this would be cute.
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.800
Like a I don't know, I'm trying to think of a movie to compare it to.
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:19.920
I'm gonna pause.
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.920
I'm I'm looking up, I'm looking up for other her other stories, Tia.
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:26.800
I'm trying to think.
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:28.559
But I feel like she has one.
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:34.320
If DeGrassi can be a kid's show, I feel like Al drawn can be a kid's show.
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.480
I gotta put but Degrassi didn't show full-on hunching, though.
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.400
I mean, they're not gonna be like, no, they definitely implied it.
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:43.280
I mean, they're pretty good.
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:44.719
JT had a whole baby.
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.039
Yeah, but they didn't show the knocking boots.
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.559
So also speaking of hunching, this is this is just maybe for me.
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:52.480
There was a lot of talking in their sex scene.
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.079
Their first sex scene, they were doing too much talking.
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:56.239
I'm trying to I'm literally reading, I'm like, do I talk too much?
00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:58.400
They're having falling conversations.
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.800
I was like, yeah, this is not sexy right now.
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:07.440
They're talking about some talking, but I'm trying to have full dialogue with me.
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:12.719
No, and then there was one thing where she was talking about her like her areolas.
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:17.679
I don't like my areolas, they're weird, like, this is this is not what is this?
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:18.960
Is it sexy dog?
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:24.320
Yeah, they was having wrap-up talk during the settings.
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.719
Like we probably have these kind of conversations afterwards, like hello talking.
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:30.159
Yeah, I agree.
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.559
Maybe that's why I was confused by the moves too, because it was a whole bunch of dialogue, and then they were just also doing stuff.
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.039
I was like, wait, hold on.
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:41.599
I was gonna say I don't think the first one better than the second one for that reason.
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:46.719
Wasn't the first wasn't the first one where she was talking about like how her like nipples were weird looking?
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:50.559
Maybe it was the second one then, because one of them didn't have as much dialogue.
00:52:50.800 --> 00:53:00.960
I think it was the first one that had a lot because that was when they were first having sex and they were like hee hee hee, giggling and getting oil and toys and stuff.
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.360
Maybe it must have been the second one then.
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:08.079
Yeah, because the second one was when that was when Noah's family came over the next day.
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:08.960
Yes, okay.
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:09.920
That was another thing, too.
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:11.360
You're gonna talk shit about me.
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:14.719
You have a I have a guest in the house, you have no decorum.
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.599
Did you talk about me with this lady right here?
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:29.119
But I was gonna say, I don't know if you're if you're gonna like her other books, because she has one other because I feel like we all have issues with this.
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:40.239
She has one other sapphic romance where both the main characters are black, but her heterosexual romances, only the female main character is black.
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:43.119
I'm looking at the covers.
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:45.760
Yeah, I don't know.
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.239
Which is always heterosexual romances anyway.
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:49.760
Oh, you're done.
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.119
To be honest, you're just going full on.
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:53.440
Okay.
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.199
To be honest, I got enough of those on my list.
00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:58.719
This this is true.
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:01.920
But I do think I do just think it is odd where like I don't know.
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:03.519
Oh, it's also a sports romance.
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:05.039
That always gets me, like now.
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:05.679
Never mind.
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:10.159
Oh, I in this the one of the ones you're talking about, people were eating this up.
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:10.960
This sunny romance.
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:11.599
Which one?
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:15.840
Sunny, what is this disposition?
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:17.199
Oh sunny disposition.
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:22.639
Every I when this first came out, I feel like a lot of people were talking about this in like a good life.
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:27.280
And my thing is, why are all of the sports romances that are out hockey?
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:29.920
Like they're all hockey.
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:35.199
And I don't understand, like, why?
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.760
Because my thing is okay, there's two shows like it.
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.079
We have the heated rivalry and the off-campus show.
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:47.280
Hockey there makes sense because the writers are Canadian, and that's like their main sport over there is hockey.
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:48.880
So, what else are they gonna write about?
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:53.840
But I feel like every other sports romance I see is all hockey.
00:54:56.639 --> 00:55:02.719
It's very little like football, basketball, even soccer, baseball.
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:05.840
Give me a football romance.
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:07.039
I might be into it.
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:09.599
I might be into it.
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:12.639
I know nothing about sports, basketball meant, you know.
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:14.159
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:15.360
But football, yeah.
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:53.119
Um, what's there was one there was one football romance I was gonna read, and it wasn't where it was like the the it was a black female main character and then like a white male main character, and the only reason why I didn't read it is because and I know this is like controversial, I think somebody talked about this on Black Girls Read 2, is that the author was a white woman, and I I do uh I know not everybody cares, but I can literally insert insert no if we get that audio, Beyonce's gonna get us for royalties right there.
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:53.920
No, for real.
00:55:55.360 --> 00:56:01.519
But like, so that's like that's the only reason why I didn't, and the concept was good, but I was just like that's weird to me.
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:03.840
I know, yeah, I know.
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:10.079
But maybe I'll maybe I might give this I like I like a grumpy sunshine romance.
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.159
I do like when the guy is grumpy.
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.639
So maybe maybe I'll do it.
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:22.880
But yeah, I was just looking for that one to your football, all in by Z Renee.
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.440
That's an urban romance, but it's around football.
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:26.320
All in.
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.280
Baby, it's gonna take you through some changes, but it was good.
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.039
It was really good.
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:32.960
Z Money?
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.599
Uh-uh, Z Renee Renee.
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:36.320
I think I've really.
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.000
Ooh, there is there was one by J.S.
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:42.480
Jasper.
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:44.239
There's one by J.S.
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:46.239
Jasper called Spring Awakening.
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:53.199
That's I think it's I think it's football in the British sense, like soccer, but both of the characters are black.
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:54.719
Both of the characters are black.
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:56.159
So this is cute.
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.079
She has purple hair, right?
00:56:59.360 --> 00:56:59.679
Okay.
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:01.119
Is it soccer?
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:01.760
It's not so.
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:03.440
Oh, it says rugby.
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:04.960
Yeah, if it's British, oh rugby.
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:05.519
Oh, I love it.
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:09.679
I love I love watching rugby.
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.400
I love watching a rugby training session.
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:18.480
Let me save this one.
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.320
I might save that one.
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:22.800
We got some options.
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:24.000
We got some options.
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.360
Ooh, it's called training seasons.
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.800
We can have options too.
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:35.840
We got some new books we're about to start reading too, right?
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:38.000
Yes, yes.
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.360
Should we talk about the next next episode?
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:44.719
The next episode.
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.480
The next two episodes, actually, they're they're gonna be a little bit heavy.
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:50.159
Really heavy.
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:56.159
We're gonna be reading The Reformatory by Miss Tenanereve Dew.
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:57.119
I love that name.
00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:58.079
My fave.
00:57:58.400 --> 00:57:59.199
Tananareve do.
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.119
I'm so uh I love her so much.
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:03.760
I I already uh I already finished.
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.440
Miss Dew, if you're listening, I follow you on threads, girly.
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.239
I like you as a personality if you think we should be friends.
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:12.480
Not as a personality, just a person.
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:16.400
I mean, you know what I'm trying to say, girl.
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:19.119
You know what I mean.
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:20.960
We friends, you get it.
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:22.320
I know.
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:24.400
I love her, I love everything like this.
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.119
I finished this in a week.
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.599
Like, if I didn't have work, I probably would have finished this sooner.
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.000
But we're gonna be reading the reformatory.
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.519
If you haven't read it, get your tissues ready.
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.679
Like, ugly crying s not coming on your nose.
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.360
For me, that was that was me.
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.440
Like, what's that Fantasia meme where she's like walking on the stage and she's crying and like shaking her head?
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:51.599
That was literally me at one point.
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:56.000
Like, I was just like, and I was telling Rick, Jeremy was like, Are you okay?
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:56.800
Is everything good?
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:58.639
I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.599
I was like, no, but yes, it's just it's just the book.
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:03.760
It's the book, the book app.
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:05.039
It's just the book.
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:19.119
But for the synopsis for next week, uh the reformatory is a story about a boy in 1950s, Florida, um, a black child in 1950s, Florida, so I feel like you guys know where this is gonna go.
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:39.119
Um, he ends up kicking the son of the man that pretty much owns the whole entire town, and he gets sent to a reform school, uh, and he can see haints and ghosts, and he gets haunted by different ghosts in the reformatory.
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:45.519
And yeah, I don't want to spoil too much because we're gonna spoil it for you next time.
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:46.079
Yeah.
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:47.840
But thank you guys so much for listening.
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.320
And again, this one's gonna be a heavy one.
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.199
There's probably not gonna be a lot of laughing.
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.159
I don't think we're gonna try.
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:57.760
I'm gonna try real hard.
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:00.960
A little joy, a little joy.
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:04.079
That's the funny about this book.
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:06.480
Um honestly, I'll probably cry during that episode.
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:08.079
Oh chat.
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:16.159
It it definitely felt like that when I started it, but it'll be you know, read it with us if you haven't already read it.
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:28.320
Um and make sure you follow us on our socials Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, all that, Instagram, threads, we we everywhere.
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:29.760
Yeah, talk to us on there.
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:35.920
I'm gonna try and get better at responding to people because I'm not good at that.
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:38.159
Yeah, we worked.
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:47.440
Listen, the way I see it, like, if we get a lot of comments on something, I get overwhelmed and I'm just like, ah, I don't want to do it anymore.
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:48.880
Like, it's too much.
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.239
We need a social media manager who wants to be our social media manager for free.
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:53.440
Like, we can pay you.
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:57.119
Oh my god.
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:01.840
All right, well, thank you guys for listening, and we will see you guys.
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:03.599
Or no, we're not.
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.360
You will see us, you will hear us next time.
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:09.199
Bye bye.