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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
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I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
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our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
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in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
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going over the same parenting topics over and over.
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So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
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we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
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thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
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if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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and let's all make like we're doing something important for
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our families.
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Each Tuesday we bring you our thoughts on a newer
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entertainment property, and for this week of March thirtieth, we
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are discussing Shrinking Season three, episode nine, Daddy Issues, a
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title which reminds us of our other weekly watch, Lost,
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which is colon Daddy Issues. But I think this may
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be the first time ever where I feel like I
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have understood what was happening on Lost this week more
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than I understood what was happening on Shrinking. I mean,
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some things in it were great but others were.
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Like, what the do people?
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How Sophie and Jimmy have barely been on one date
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and I don't think dinner at my house with my
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ex husband and kid counts as a date. And yet
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she's just around all the time and she's acted like
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they're a couple and they have a couple things.
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What the heck?
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And since when is is like Gabby Paul's everything. Weren't
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he and Jimmy like a thing at one point? How
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is she suddenly his legacy?
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Right?
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I mean, speaking of daddy issues, is Jimmy going to
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have issues with Yes, with her.
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Just being these it's for sure going to have daddy issues,
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but he could also have coworker issues like I looked
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away for a second and you swooped in and you
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grabbed the birthright what? And also, I guess Maya was
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just an incidental bump in the road and we're not
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supposed to care about what happened there at all, and
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there's gonna be no I mean, I was hugely not
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looking forward to the reckoning on that, but it looks
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like we're not going to have it at all. And
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then it's like, why did we even do it?
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Yeah, for Daddy to take a week off and have
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a small crisis of confidence that Paul has now turned around.
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Small nonspecific crisis of confidence of about which we got
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no particular details right. And also, since when has trauma
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been the dream of her life? Wasn't She's a couples
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she couldn't wait to teach. She wanted tea was what
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she wanted to do is so hugely important to her.
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It's like they realize there's only like two episodes left,
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and they're like, oh my gosh, we gotta get all
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this stuff. Let's just throw it all in. It'll be fine. No,
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I don't get it. However, Jeff Daniels's portrayal of that
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dad masterful, wow, just oh my gosh, what a horrible person,
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and the collective oof that you heard everybody watching the
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show make when he said, oh I like her even
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better than your dead wife. She seems like a good
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fit for you. Oh man, no no, and giving Alice
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a car when Jimmy had given her a car just masterful, passive, aggressive,
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aggressive assholary, which brought me back to my the first
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thing I think I saw Jeff Daniels in, which was
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terms of endearment in terms of endearmentist that before your.
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No I saw it.
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I mean, I haven't a young version of his character.
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It was just the worst to quote Parks and Wreck,
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but yeah, so.
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Yeah, there was so much in this episode that I
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was just like, what are we doing?
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I mean there was the Sophie stuff, like what why
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are you just hanging around?
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Like why is she there?
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All?
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She was there like that was all one day because
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she was wearing the same outfit, so I assumed it
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was all one day.
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And she's like walking around his house looking for him
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right going into I know it was that it was
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his bedroom or just a spare bedroom but still a bedroom,
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and lecturing him about how he should feel about his father.
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So are you gonna be like this all the time?
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Is this how you were with your wife? I don't
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she like brings up the wife and then says, I
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don't think you should be throwing your wife in my face?
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What? Yeah, that was extremely right. The whole thing was
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just like.
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Very coming into his workplace and it's I mean, if
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they had been dating for the entire season, yeah, absolutely,
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and she would be right to be concerned. But they
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had dinner once, right.
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They had dinner once and she came to the Tia
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birthday party, which was already super weird.
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Yeah, I and I also don't get why does Sean
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getting this job mean that the food truck just goes away?
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Same?
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Doesn't his dad still own the truck and Liz Orgees
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still work there.
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And Liz doesn't. Didn't Liz invest in it? Why can't
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we Liz?
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Liz sold out to Sean's Okay, so because she heard
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Sean and his dad talking about how they always wanted
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to do that together, and then she was in trouble
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because Sean and want to work with his dad, right,
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so his dad hasn't been around in But I mean
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Sean knows a lot of very rich people at this point,
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have one of them, Funnd Jorge to keep the truck exactly.
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I didn't understand that at all, Like there's no reason
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that Horge can't keep doing it.
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he has to ask this thing has to completely go away?
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I did not get that. And it just seems like
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they're shutting down storylines to do new things next season,
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and it's I don't get it. Yeah, I just don't.
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I don't get it. And I don't like that because
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I really enjoy this show and I don't want to
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afterwards go what the heck was that? But it does
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explain a lot about Jimmy.
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Yes, now that we've met.
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And oh my gosh, what you know he's he's gonna
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just sneak out on graduation like it's no big deal.
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And and you know Jimmy was like trying to protect
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Alice from this and uh, it won't work.
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No. Yeah, just awful, awful, awful, awful, and and just
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so such a good portrayal of that, that kind of awful.
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Seems like a fun guy.
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Everybody likes him.
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Fixes up this old car for his granddaughter. What a guy,
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and everybody likes him. And it's only if you have
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been wounded by him for your entire childhood do you
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recognize what he's doing? And nobody believes you?
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Right A yeah, and we did, I mean we had.
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I had wondered the previous episode where he was on,
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like why wasn't he around when Tia died, which.
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I mean, oh my gosh, she gave this big speech
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at the funeral about how he was going to be
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there for them, and then you just just just boy,
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that's like a psychological portrait of a certain kind of personality.
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And uh, but now Jimmy's going to betrayed by his
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work dad too, so.
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It'll be fine.
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Man. They're setting up for a very unpleasant ending to
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the ass. Where are we going with this?
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You guys?
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Where are we going with this?
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Huh? And the only like comedy was Brian giving it
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to head talk to Derek.
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A piece of advice for Brian there, Man, if you
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don't want to be an old maybe don't hang out
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with high school girls. He's just saying, you hang out
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with Paul. You are the youth.
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Are the young one. Even Liz and Derek are definitely.
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Listen Derek, but you hang out with Summer and Alice,
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you're the crypt keeper. Okay, so just pick your company carefully,
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That's all I'm saying. I just.
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So weird. But and also so Paul is leaving like
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this week.
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Yeah, He's like he's leaving in a week.
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He's like, this is my last week in the office. Gabby,
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you have to come in like.
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What, Oh my gosh, there's two weeks left of this
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season and then another one after that. So yeah, I'm
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still thinking they're all moving to Connecticut or there's gonna
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be something.
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Why he doesn't.
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Go, doesn't go like, I don't know. Julie has a job,
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Yeah right, I would like to keep it.
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Meg decides she's going to move to LA so.
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That yeah, Jimmy is going through a crisis and you
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can't leave him. I don't know. I don't know anyway,
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but parenting wise, parenting tips from this episode, did we
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get some like watch this with your with your children's
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grandparent and say all of these things, no, no, no, no,
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no no for one thing and this is this is
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like this happens all the time, but everybody should know this.
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Ask before you give your grandchild a big gift, don't
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just spring it on them. Possibly the parent has already
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given it. Possibly the parent does not want them to
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have it. Ask first, don't go in there be the hero,
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get the kid all excited, and then the parent has
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to be the one that says, actually.
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No, that is that is horrible.
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That is grandparenting one oh one, That is basic Bay sick.
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This is the dude who does that? Do not be
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this dude. Okay, I think we can all agree, don't
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be that guy. Also, if a kid, whether it's your
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child or your grandchild or a child you have become
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friends with, if they want you very badly to be
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someplace and see them, do something, do it. Do whatever
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you have to do to make it, because those are
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the things that they may not remember whether you were
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there or but they will remember if you weren't. So
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do it. If that child means anything to you, and
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even if they don't, and you just want to be
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a halfway decent person, go to the Dan graduation. They
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are boring, right, I agree with you. They're not fun
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to go to. There is the one second when the
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person you love is having their name called, and the
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rest of it is just god awful boring unless they're
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giving a speech, and even then their speech is probably boring.
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But you gotta go. That's what love is. Yeah, And
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sitting on a bleacher for three hours and that is
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that's what you do. Yeah, that's what you signed up for.
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Get your butt there. And you know it is also
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a once in a lifetime opportunity. Bozo, he's not going
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to graduate high school again.
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I think you could go fishing at other times in
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your life.
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Yeah, we know, it's pathological with you mans. But still,
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you know, let's take this as a parenting tip. Don't
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do that. Nope, you know you shouldn't do that.
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Well, I don't know if he does. I think that
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might be part of the problem.
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But you know what, maybe he does. Yeah, maybe he's like,
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I have the happiness of these people in my hands,
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what shall I do? I don't know. He's a pretty
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he's a pretty manipulative doud covering over with a like
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a gloss of.
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Cool Grandpa.
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Yikes. Another thing, parenting wise, is the weight of a legacy. Yeah,
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and do you make your kids carry on your legacy?
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Is it their job and their responsibility to carry on
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your legacy? Is it yours? And they get to have theirs?
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Think about before? You know, in this case, both Paul
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was dumping this on Gabby who maybe did or did
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not want it, but also then she's making him change
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what that is, which is also you know, not fair.
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I bet Jimmy would have been happy to do it
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exactly the way he wanted and he wouldn't have to
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buy Sushiet or anything. But no, but no, it's why
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is that going to be a Jimmy's been leaped around
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by his dad, and now Paul is going to be
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choosing the other child over him. Gets messy, You guys,
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when you get over involved in the lives of your employees,
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this is the kind of thing that happens. But yeah,
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when you're considering your children and what you want to
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burden them with, you know, think about what you need,
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but also what they need. And maybe they don't want
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to go into the family business, maybe they don't want
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to own the home or the items that you lovingly
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pass on to them. It's fraught. It's really fraught. And
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then a final parenting bit of wisdom, which we can
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get probably from every TV show that exists, is the
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things you say can mess your kid up when they're
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that way, and even if you figure out, they'll just
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older kids remember, adult kids remember. And the most ineffectual
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feeling in the world is saying something awful and then
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trying to take it back. Something I have recently this
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week had need to do and it doesn't come back.
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then it's just the same problem. Maybe they're going to
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mess you up, is what's going to happen. But it's
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we have a lot of power as parents. Use it
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for good, yeah, because if you use it for evil, man,
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it can. Jimmy is just right back to being an
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insecure child, just in the very presence of his day
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grown up with a child of his own, with the
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successful business. Right back to the kid whose dad didn't
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come to something so or who wasn't there. Yikes. It's
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a lot of responsibility for me.
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of this, Like I'm so mad at you for doing
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this to my me and for doing it to my kid.
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this is going to affect his child so right, and
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he tried to protect her from it.
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the day they were going to go buy stuff for
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her college dorm room, which is a fun father daughter
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thing to do. He gets for a car which kind
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of supersedes the car Jimmy gave her, and then he
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creates the situation where she's going to be upset and
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Jimmy's the one who's gonna have to deal, right, just
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what a bleep? What a piece of ye Yeah, well
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that's a work is a nice thing to say. I
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have another word in my just And you know there
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are people like that out there, and they exist and
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they're screwing people up right now, don't be that parenting tip.
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Don't be that person. No, no, you know what you
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know what you're doing, you know, stop it. And do
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you think he's gonna Do you think you should tell uh,
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tell Alice ahead of time or just good question? Oh,
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I don't know. If something must have come up, he must.
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Have Yeah, I don't know.
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I mean either way, it's awful. But maybe you don't
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want to save it for her special day or else
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maybe her We'll be distracting enough that it would be better.
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He needs to tell Summer and then Summer can both
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find a way to break it to Alice and also
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set up some sort of sting where the grandpa's going
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to get arrested for being with underage.
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I trust Summer could find a way. Yeah, I think
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so too, to cause some trouble for this too. You go,
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they need to deploy Summer more. Oh well that was
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you know.
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One of the only sources of amusement once again was
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Summer talking about how and Cheeran travels with the fraternity
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test guy because of redheads like her.
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I guess it works with the age of the characters.
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But Rachel Stubbington is only nine years younger than Ed Sheeran,
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so that must have been but I know she's playing much.
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Oh well. Next Tuesday we will continue with season three,
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episode ten of Shrinking, which we hope will make more
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sense than this one.
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But the title is not promised.
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It's called The Bodyguard of Sadness, and one of the
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things it says on Apple TV as the description. Part
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of the description for this episode is that Liz and
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Derek disagree about their future plans or something like that
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one of them wants to move to Connecticut. I would
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I would donate money to Bill Lawrence's favorite charity if
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he would just pick up the entire show and transfer
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to Connecticut, just because he can, just to be goofy,
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just to be silly. Every single character.
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Somemmer's Summer's mother hooks up with some guy in Connecticut
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and she goes there with her, and you know, we.
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Can leave Jeff Daniels back in California. That's right, I mean,
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not Jeff Daniels himself.
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He's fine.
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We bear Jeff Daniels nobles. He's a very good actor.
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He is it particularly good at playing dirt bags. Sleeping,
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so we will be back tomorrow to discuss Lost, which
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had like a linear storyline and everything.
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
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I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
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our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
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in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
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going over the same parenting topics over and over.
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So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
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we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
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thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
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if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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and let's all make like we're doing something important for
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our families.
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Each Tuesday we bring you our thoughts on a newer
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entertainment property, and for this week of March thirtieth, we
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are discussing Shrinking Season three, episode nine, Daddy Issues, a
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title which reminds us of our other weekly watch, Lost,
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which is colon Daddy Issues. But I think this may
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be the first time ever where I feel like I
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have understood what was happening on Lost this week more
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than I understood what was happening on Shrinking. I mean,
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some things in it were great but others were.
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Like, what the do people?
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How Sophie and Jimmy have barely been on one date
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and I don't think dinner at my house with my
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ex husband and kid counts as a date. And yet
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she's just around all the time and she's acted like
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they're a couple and they have a couple things.
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What the heck?
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And since when is is like Gabby Paul's everything. Weren't
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he and Jimmy like a thing at one point? How
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is she suddenly his legacy?
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I mean, speaking of daddy issues, is Jimmy going to
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have issues with Yes, with her.
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Just being these it's for sure going to have daddy issues,
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but he could also have coworker issues like I looked
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away for a second and you swooped in and you
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grabbed the birthright what? And also, I guess Maya was
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just an incidental bump in the road and we're not
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supposed to care about what happened there at all, and
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there's gonna be no I mean, I was hugely not
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looking forward to the reckoning on that, but it looks
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like we're not going to have it at all. And
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then it's like, why did we even do it?
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a small crisis of confidence that Paul has now turned around.
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no particular details right. And also, since when has trauma
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been the dream of her life? Wasn't She's a couples
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she couldn't wait to teach. She wanted tea was what
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she wanted to do is so hugely important to her.
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and they're like, oh my gosh, we gotta get all
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this stuff. Let's just throw it all in. It'll be fine. No,
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I don't get it. However, Jeff Daniels's portrayal of that
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dad masterful, wow, just oh my gosh, what a horrible person,
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and the collective oof that you heard everybody watching the
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better than your dead wife. She seems like a good
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fit for you. Oh man, no no, and giving Alice
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a car when Jimmy had given her a car just masterful, passive, aggressive,
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aggressive assholary, which brought me back to my the first
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thing I think I saw Jeff Daniels in, which was
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terms of endearment in terms of endearmentist that before your.
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I mean, I haven't a young version of his character.
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It was just the worst to quote Parks and Wreck,
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was just like, what are we doing?
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are you just hanging around?
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she was wearing the same outfit, so I assumed it
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was all one day.
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right going into I know it was that it was
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his bedroom or just a spare bedroom but still a bedroom,
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and lecturing him about how he should feel about his father.
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she like brings up the wife and then says, I
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don't think you should be throwing your wife in my face?
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What? Yeah, that was extremely right. The whole thing was
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just like.
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they had been dating for the entire season, yeah, absolutely,
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and she would be right to be concerned. But they
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had dinner once, right.
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They had dinner once and she came to the Tia
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birthday party, which was already super weird.
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getting this job mean that the food truck just goes away?
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Doesn't his dad still own the truck and Liz Orgees
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still work there.
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we Liz?
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Liz sold out to Sean's Okay, so because she heard
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Sean and his dad talking about how they always wanted
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to do that together, and then she was in trouble
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because Sean and want to work with his dad, right,
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so his dad hasn't been around in But I mean
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Sean knows a lot of very rich people at this point,
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have one of them, Funnd Jorge to keep the truck exactly.
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I didn't understand that at all, Like there's no reason
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that Horge can't keep doing it.
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he has to ask this thing has to completely go away?
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I did not get that. And it just seems like
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they're shutting down storylines to do new things next season,
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and it's I don't get it. Yeah, I just don't.
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I don't get it. And I don't like that because
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I really enjoy this show and I don't want to
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afterwards go what the heck was that? But it does
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explain a lot about Jimmy.
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Yes, now that we've met.
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just sneak out on graduation like it's no big deal.
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Alice from this and uh, it won't work.
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No. Yeah, just awful, awful, awful, awful, and and just
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so such a good portrayal of that, that kind of awful.
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Everybody likes him.
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Fixes up this old car for his granddaughter. What a guy,
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and everybody likes him. And it's only if you have
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recognize what he's doing? And nobody believes you?
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there for them, and then you just just just boy,
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Man. They're setting up for a very unpleasant ending to
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the ass. Where are we going with this?
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Where are we going with this?
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Huh? And the only like comedy was Brian giving it
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to head talk to Derek.
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with high school girls. He's just saying, you hang out
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with Paul. You are the youth.
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Are the young one. Even Liz and Derek are definitely.
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Listen Derek, but you hang out with Summer and Alice,
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He's like, this is my last week in the office. Gabby,
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you have to come in like.
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season and then another one after that. So yeah, I'm
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still thinking they're all moving to Connecticut or there's gonna
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Go, doesn't go like, I don't know. Julie has a job,
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Meg decides she's going to move to LA so.
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can't leave him. I don't know. I don't know anyway,
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but parenting wise, parenting tips from this episode, did we
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get some like watch this with your with your children's
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grandparent and say all of these things, no, no, no, no,
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no no for one thing and this is this is
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like this happens all the time, but everybody should know this.
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just spring it on them. Possibly the parent has already
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given it. Possibly the parent does not want them to
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have it. Ask first, don't go in there be the hero,
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get the kid all excited, and then the parent has
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to be the one that says, actually.
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That is grandparenting one oh one, That is basic Bay sick.
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This is the dude who does that? Do not be
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this dude. Okay, I think we can all agree, don't
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be that guy. Also, if a kid, whether it's your
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child or your grandchild or a child you have become
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friends with, if they want you very badly to be
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someplace and see them, do something, do it. Do whatever
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you have to do to make it, because those are
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the things that they may not remember whether you were
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there or but they will remember if you weren't. So
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do it. If that child means anything to you, and
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even if they don't, and you just want to be
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a halfway decent person, go to the Dan graduation. They
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are boring, right, I agree with you. They're not fun
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to go to. There is the one second when the
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person you love is having their name called, and the
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rest of it is just god awful boring unless they're
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giving a speech, and even then their speech is probably boring.
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But you gotta go. That's what love is. Yeah, And
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sitting on a bleacher for three hours and that is
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that's what you do. Yeah, that's what you signed up for.
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Get your butt there. And you know it is also
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a once in a lifetime opportunity. Bozo, he's not going
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to graduate high school again.
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I think you could go fishing at other times in
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your life.
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you know, let's take this as a parenting tip. Don't
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do that. Nope, you know you shouldn't do that.
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I have the happiness of these people in my hands,
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what shall I do? I don't know. He's a pretty
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he's a pretty manipulative doud covering over with a like
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Cool Grandpa.
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and do you make your kids carry on your legacy?
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your legacy? Is it yours? And they get to have theirs?
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Think about before? You know, in this case, both Paul
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was dumping this on Gabby who maybe did or did
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not want it, but also then she's making him change
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what that is, which is also you know, not fair.
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exactly the way he wanted and he wouldn't have to
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buy Sushiet or anything. But no, but no, it's why
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is that going to be a Jimmy's been leaped around
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by his dad, and now Paul is going to be
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choosing the other child over him. Gets messy, You guys,
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when you get over involved in the lives of your employees,
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this is the kind of thing that happens. But yeah,
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when you're considering your children and what you want to
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burden them with, you know, think about what you need,
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to go into the family business, maybe they don't want
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to own the home or the items that you lovingly
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pass on to them. It's fraught. It's really fraught. And
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then a final parenting bit of wisdom, which we can
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get probably from every TV show that exists, is the
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things you say can mess your kid up when they're
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a child, when they're an adult, think about what you
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are saying, because those are weapons that are coming out
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of your mind. And even if you don't mean it
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that way, and even if you figure out, they'll just
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forget it. They don't remember these things. Little kids remember,
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older kids remember, adult kids remember. And the most ineffectual
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feeling in the world is saying something awful and then
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trying to take it back. Something I have recently this
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week had need to do and it doesn't come back.
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It's always out there, you know, it never goes away.
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then it's just the same problem. Maybe they're going to
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mess you up, is what's going to happen. But it's
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we have a lot of power as parents. Use it
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for good, yeah, because if you use it for evil, man,
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it can. Jimmy is just right back to being an
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insecure child, just in the very presence of his day
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grown up with a child of his own, with the
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successful business. Right back to the kid whose dad didn't
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come to something so or who wasn't there. Yikes. It's
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a lot of responsibility for me.
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I don't know, for I don't know certain people. Jeff
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telling him, oh, I'm going fishing, it's you.
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Excellent face work by Jason siegel Man, because you could
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just boy the moment he said that about Sophie too,
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you just knew it was all over it. Yeah, just
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just it's not like he's getting mad. It's not like
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he's doing anything. It was all face.
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Work, right, and he he knows, you know, I'm gonna
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have to I'm the one who's dealing with the fallout
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of this, Like I'm so mad at you for doing
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this to my me and for doing it to my kid.
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Like that's how you know he's actually a good dad, right.
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Because he's because he's you know, he's looking at how
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this is going to affect his child so right, and
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he tried to protect her from it.
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He tried, yes, and it didn't work.
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So this guy comes in, you know, he takes away
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the day they were going to go buy stuff for
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her college dorm room, which is a fun father daughter
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thing to do. He gets for a car which kind
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of supersedes the car Jimmy gave her, and then he
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creates the situation where she's going to be upset and
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Jimmy's the one who's gonna have to deal, right, just
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what a bleep? What a piece of ye Yeah, well
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that's a work is a nice thing to say. I
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have another word in my just And you know there
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are people like that out there, and they exist and
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they're screwing people up right now, don't be that parenting tip.
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Don't be that person. No, no, you know what you
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know what you're doing, you know, stop it. And do
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you think he's gonna Do you think you should tell uh,
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tell Alice ahead of time or just good question? Oh,
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I don't know. If something must have come up, he must.
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Have Yeah, I don't know.
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I mean either way, it's awful. But maybe you don't
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want to save it for her special day or else
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maybe her We'll be distracting enough that it would be better.
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He needs to tell Summer and then Summer can both
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find a way to break it to Alice and also
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set up some sort of sting where the grandpa's going
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to get arrested for being with underage.
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There we go.
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I trust Summer could find a way. Yeah, I think
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so too, to cause some trouble for this too. You go,
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they need to deploy Summer more. Oh well that was
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you know.
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One of the only sources of amusement once again was
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Summer talking about how and Cheeran travels with the fraternity
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test guy because of redheads like her.
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I guess it works with the age of the characters.
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But Rachel Stubbington is only nine years younger than Ed Sheeran,
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so that must have been but I know she's playing much.
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Oh well. Next Tuesday we will continue with season three,
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episode ten of Shrinking, which we hope will make more
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sense than this one.
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But the title is not promised.
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It's called The Bodyguard of Sadness, and one of the
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things it says on Apple TV as the description. Part
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of the description for this episode is that Liz and
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Derek disagree about their future plans or something like that
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one of them wants to move to Connecticut. I would
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I would donate money to Bill Lawrence's favorite charity if
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he would just pick up the entire show and transfer
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to Connecticut, just because he can, just to be goofy,
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just to be silly. Every single character.
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Right, find some reason to find a reason.
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Somemmer's Summer's mother hooks up with some guy in Connecticut
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and she goes there with her, and you know, we.
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Can leave Jeff Daniels back in California. That's right, I mean,
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not Jeff Daniels himself.
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He's fine.
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We bear Jeff Daniels nobles. He's a very good actor.
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He is it particularly good at playing dirt bags. Sleeping,
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so we will be back tomorrow to discuss Lost, which
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had like a linear storyline and everything.
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