WWE MITB FALLOUT, CARMELO HAYES JOINS 946, TNA FIRES MAX CASTER AFTER 1 DAY | TNT #168

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so very much for joining us right here on Tuesday night to this Tuesday night titans episode 168 for your Tuesday october 13 In 2006.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm your host JD from New York as always Join by the one and only the real De Nero and El Bunko Solomon's what's going on about Man, I wish I had a Haliburton that had firework shooting out the side of it that would be super cool
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[UNKNOWN]: And how much do you think WWE would charge for one of those on shop?
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, it's got to be at least 200 bucks right there.
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[UNKNOWN]: You kidding me?
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[UNKNOWN]: I added fireworks.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you got to do it in such a way where, you know, it's safe.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how you would do that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I just googled the briefcase just to see what was going on because I know they are selling two different versions of the briefcase, one regular, and then one with his signature, the one with his signature is $329.
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[UNKNOWN]: The first thing I typed in when I typed in money in the bank was money in the bank, Penta briefcase.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this thing must be sound like fucking crazy already.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm sure it is.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, it looks cool.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's got his logo on it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's in black, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Who doesn't like the dark briefcase with the red, the kind of highlight accent on it?
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[UNKNOWN]: You're gonna make a fortune on these things.
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[UNKNOWN]: I know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wonder if they went with Penta because they knew he was the most marquable money in the bank winner compared to Brownbreaker.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, this is what drives their decision making.
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[UNKNOWN]: So wouldn't shock me if that was part of it, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: How much?
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, we can make more money on Penta briefcases, and then we can broaden breaker briefcases.
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[UNKNOWN]: So let's go in that direction.
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[UNKNOWN]: Ah, that is, that is probably how they lean as far as their decision making.
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[UNKNOWN]: We know about the slambulence.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we'll talk about that with Javan Evans.
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[UNKNOWN]: the slambulants and then there were a lot of velle nightfans who were in the wambulants after money in the bank.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: On Saturday.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I was, I was disappointed.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't like fucking crying of him losing, but it's like, so can we now now that money in the bank is in the rear view.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we had many conversations here on this show about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I told you, you know, not to get your hopes up and
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[UNKNOWN]: And all that now you see the end result here and maybe you didn't honestly deep down believe that Roman was going to lose that title to L.A. and I, but you were optimistic that maybe just maybe there was a chance and I told you, hey, don't get your hopes up.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was laughable.
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[UNKNOWN]: The idea that they actually would have done that was laughable.
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[UNKNOWN]: I even thought.
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[UNKNOWN]: I even thought that when Javan Evans got taken out on the stretcher, I'm like, L.A. and I's going to come in and take a spot.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought that somebody might, I don't know that it was going to be LA night, but yeah now, LA night was, his night was over at that point, he was not coming back.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I think it is now confirmed, we can put it to rest, it's over, LA night is never going to be the world's heavyweight champion in WWE, we don't have to have any more of these discussions anymore, it's over.
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[UNKNOWN]: But we'll talk about his match.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about what's coming next.
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[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, everybody who did watch the show thought very similarly.
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[UNKNOWN]: We all thought that match was very good.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about what we what we collectively thought here on the show tonight.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about the money in the bank.
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[UNKNOWN]: Winner's Penta, Tiffany Stratton, the real reason why Tiffany won the money in the bank.
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[UNKNOWN]: We got news on Penta and what's happening with him.
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[UNKNOWN]: I saw some people in the community.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not going to name who who have chimed in saying, well, what if Penta catches in for the triple A mega title?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've seen that too.
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[UNKNOWN]: What a terrible idea that is a tragic idea.
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[UNKNOWN]: If I can wait, yeah, can we not put that out there, please, in the atmosphere, that would be horrendous.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we're not going to, I don't even know how that would work.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, he's going to cash in on the biggest baby face in AAA, like this isn't even making any sense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll discuss those, those happenings as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have Carmelo.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, joining 946, which I personally love, I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't watch Jason side of things yet on Monday night, but we'll get his view on that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I love the move.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it's going to be very good for him.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll even have fun with that because I know on this show, particularly.
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[UNKNOWN]: and he has kind of called me out on it because Royce Keys right now is the de facto leader of 946.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think he's kind of leaning into the role and I'm a little bit more open to it now, but is he still the leader?
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[UNKNOWN]: Is he still the boss of 946?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I had a discussion with a buddy of mine and I'm going to shoot a name at you.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's possibly could be in the group maybe.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll see what happens
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[UNKNOWN]: just a fucking unreal situation would happen to max castor at bountiful glory we'll talk about that we got some crown jewel news and re-odd uh... a lot of uh... news about that going around what's false what's true and we'll have some fun here on t and t so thank you guys very much for all your support this is episode one sixty eight make sure you guys go and find Jason wherever he may be on social media and on youtube you guys know what to find him everything will be linked down below in the description
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[UNKNOWN]: I did two count with the coach this morning.
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[UNKNOWN]: We had fun with that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anything on your end of the things, Jason, you want to plug in on Crown 1 up today, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: It is still not out.
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[UNKNOWN]: I did record it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was, it was done many hours ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess it's, it's kind of a stuck in queue.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's not up yet, but it is going up at some point.
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[UNKNOWN]: Probably while we are alive on the air, the show should push out.
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[UNKNOWN]: But yes, there, there should be a brand new one, crown wrestling show going up, imminently.
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[UNKNOWN]: eminently so uh... before bed after tnt you guys go listen to that or if you can take jason to work with the tomorrow or the gym or to the super market makes for easy listening so uh... make sure you guys look out for that club for the club yes take it to the strip club you can take me anywhere you want why not on judge why not it works so go check that out uh... also from uh... me and jason collectively and on behalf of the house of glory uh... we hit one hundred thousand subscribers
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[UNKNOWN]: for the YouTube channel.
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[UNKNOWN]: That is a tremendous achievement.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is not easy, especially in the YouTube landscape nowadays to do that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But ever since the company has done the live streaming whether it was on Triller or now with on YouTube, you guys have absolutely, and I mean, absolutely killed it with the support.
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[UNKNOWN]: So a congratulations is in order to read and Brian and everybody that's handles House of Glory.
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[UNKNOWN]: That is a tremendous feat that is not easy to come by.
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[UNKNOWN]: So sooner or later Jason, we're going to have a silver play button hanging up in Amazon somewhere or at one of the schools.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a great thing to just look at, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then you're next, apparently.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I still got a waste to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're not, we're not there yet.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're, we're on our way, but yeah, it was, it was very cool, though.
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[UNKNOWN]: They, they, Brian sent me the, the text when it was like 99,994.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we were kind of counting down and then we hit the 100K.
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[UNKNOWN]: And look, that last show, you know, from last week, last I checked.
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[UNKNOWN]: What was it?
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[UNKNOWN]: 150,000 plus.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think we're at 152 now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 150,000 views and counting, and some very good action on that show, you know, which we were on the call for, Tomaso Champa Charles Mason among other things, so a very cool night, very cool to see that kind of support, and long may it continue into 2027.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a lot of cool things coming.
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[UNKNOWN]: So make sure you guys keep an eye out for what H or G is doing dates will be announced for our upcoming shows going on through the following three months, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: It should be exciting.
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[UNKNOWN]: So go check that out and superchats.
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[UNKNOWN]: Most important superchats are open.
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[UNKNOWN]: Get them on and we will be hanging out with you guys at the end of the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's the best way to support what Jason and I do here on Tuesday night Titans.
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[UNKNOWN]: Without any further ado, I'm going to pass it off to my friend here and what do you want to talk about?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why don't we start with some TNA?
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I did not watch any, I didn't watch any mouthful glory.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I caught parts of bound for glory.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm aware of sort of the key things that happened on the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then before we get into the controversy coming out of the show, five title changes on this show.
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[UNKNOWN]: that I do heart well any heart well who we know very well is now the t and a knockout champion don't burn uh Zoe sarano and Shayna basler who made her t and a debut uh at bound for glory there the new knockouts tag team champions and also someone that we know very well the amazing way yeah i was surprised to see that actually
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think everybody was.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was supposed to be a six way for the vacant exhibition championship, because Leon Slater, when he invoked his options C to go after the world title, left behind the exhibition title.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it was vacant.
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[UNKNOWN]: Red went into the TNA Hall of Fame this past week and very well deserved a pioneer of that exhibition back in the days with AJ Styles and Samoa Joe and Jerry Linn and a lot of those guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so a very well deserved induction for him and he said, I'm going to be in this match tonight and he ended up winning and it's the first time that he's held that exhibition championship in 16 years.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that's pretty incredible, you know, and as far as like a gap between those two title reigns, that is that is pretty incredible stuff and still wrestling at a high level.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not like some token title.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's in there.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's doing his thing flying around kicking ass.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that was very cool to see and also a surprise for for me as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then speaking of Leon Slater, he is the new TNA World Heavyweight Champion, which I think is a very good move on their part.
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[UNKNOWN]: He beat Nick Nemeth who I think has been a great flag bear for the company.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I believe he's still one half of the tag team champion, so I think with his brother.
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[UNKNOWN]: so he still has gold but leon slater there's been a lot of talk about you know what's going to happen with leon what is this contract up and or is he going to go what's he going to do and i thought you know the outcome of that main event was really going to tell the tale of whether or not he's sticking around for a little while or if he is by the end of this year going to be out of this company i can't imagine they would put their world title on him if they thought he was out the door so that's a positive for tina because leon is fantastic
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[UNKNOWN]: And Leon is one of those young guys like Ricky Sosa that I feel like they really should build around.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the issue with TNA, of course, is that when you have these hot young stars who maybe you want to build around, can you really build around them because they need to be there, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: They need to stick around.
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[UNKNOWN]: Then you know there's going to be interests from WWE.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know there's going to be interests from AEW.
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[UNKNOWN]: and so a lot of it comes down to how long does he under contract for.
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[UNKNOWN]: But him winning that championship I think is a huge positive now they just have to be able to hold onto it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So a newsworthy show, but then also newsworthy for reasons that I'm sure TNA wishes that it was not newsworthy for because there was an open challenge on this show.
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[UNKNOWN]: involving moose.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we knew in advance who accepted the open challenge.
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[UNKNOWN]: This was the TNA debut of Max Caster, one half of the acclaimed.
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[UNKNOWN]: He enacted he bowens as of the beginning of this month, their contracts with a W were up.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so he made his debut here and wouldn't you know, he he said something that got himself in some hot water.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm shocked.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I know it's crazy.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is his gimmick, but it doesn't excuse stupidity.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just to go back and just briefly cover Leon slater.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was a news piece in the PWA side or on the elite side of things from Mike Johnson.
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[UNKNOWN]: They reported on Tuesday today that some within WWE in regards to Leon slater Jason, which has a partnership obviously with TNA, WWE have a partnership or waiting to see what happens with his deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, according to Fightful's contract page on its website, Slators Deal runs through Fall of 2026, which we have heard for a few weeks now, and PW and Satter reported that the belief in WWE is that his deal is up at the end of the year, and those WWE sources are reportedly curious if Slayer extended his deal by a few months to have a run with the TNA Championship, much like Mike Santana did.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... now known as cruise montana and w we they also reported that those within the company have expected slated to make the jump to nxt when that time does come so i mean i like the idea if he if he did extend his deal by a little bit to get some notoriety and get some kind of play at the top of the car to just get a feel for what that feels like to be a top got before he has to go back down to nxt maybe start from the bottom again so good
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but again, this just brings me back to the problem that TNA has where they need to be able to stand alone and build around some young talents and how are they able to do that if the minute that somebody either gets over or they try to elevate somebody to that spot, WWE is there to say, hey, you know what, we want you, you know, we want you and NXT because look, they have their own TV deal with AMC.
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[UNKNOWN]: they lost a lot of people and so they're trying to build around a core like a young core, a young nucleus, it's hard to do because they're just not going to be able to either match or unwilling to match the offers that some of these guys are going to get from a WWE or an AW.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they could, if they wanted to really match, you know, like a big offer, they could, but they're just not able to or willing to do so.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if let's say Leon Slater has a few months as the champion, let's say he does well, it's got to be demoralizing on some level to know that he's going to be out the door, and then you're going to have to rebuild all over again and find somebody else.
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[UNKNOWN]: So in many ways, it really does feel like they become a feeder system.
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[UNKNOWN]: you know for WWE, and maybe it was kind of always that way, but I think the partnership as much of a positive as it may be in some ways for TNA, this is also where I think it works against them because what WWE wants WWE gets.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think frankly that also had a lot to do with what we saw with the Max Castro stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm genuinely curious to know what the contract situation was with some of the T&A talent.
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[UNKNOWN]: Are they paid?
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[UNKNOWN]: Are they given like a six month or a year deal?
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe depends on who you are.
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[UNKNOWN]: Or are most of the people they're paid by appearance?
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[UNKNOWN]: Because I thought I read today somewhere that a lot of the talent there is paid by appearance.
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[UNKNOWN]: A lot of that's been a lot of the reporting that I want to say all of them, but like a lot of them are.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can't put a percentage on it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the exact number is, but yes, yes, many of them are.
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[UNKNOWN]: Or if let's say when Fabian Eichner, for example, when he signed with TNA, I think there were some reports.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he said it himself or they were just reports that he was signed through the summer.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, and then maybe at that point they would extend them, but it's like 90 days or something.
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[UNKNOWN]: These are not long-term deals unless you're like a top-top person.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the hearty's deal for example is.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure they're locked in for a bit of time.
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[UNKNOWN]: For most of these other people, it doesn't seem to be that way.
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[UNKNOWN]: These are very short-term, like even Max Caster, who we're going to talk about here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, it wasn't like he was signed to a contract.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, like he himself in his own video apology kind of that he posted earlier said it's not a good feeling to be fired technically he wasn't fired though because he wasn't under contract.
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[UNKNOWN]: They just made a decision not to use him anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm sure he's not the only one that has a similar type of deal like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're just not willing or able to make any sort of real long-term commitment to these people, which makes it easier for them to just leave and go somewhere else.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... at bountiful glory max caster answer the call for moose is open chounds like jason mentioned we found out a couple days before the show that max caster was going to answer the call there was a room that shameless was also in discussion for that but i'm sure with shameless that would uh... come a lot of money to bring him in so they went with you much cheaper option he wasn't good night i i know what to listen moose now
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[UNKNOWN]: So max castor shows up and if you guys know the acclaim that max castory comes out and he wraps the crowd and he sometimes makes controversial comments and you know that's what he does.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's what his gimmick is and he pushes the boundaries and he pushes the envelope of what he can and cannot say or should not say.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I have the I have the rap here and I'm going to read it verbatim.
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[UNKNOWN]: He says and I quote you to rap it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Never, never, platinum on the mic, and I am bound for the glory, bro.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm putting mousse on his knees like a glory hoe.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's the firing squad.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think he's a glory hoe.
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[UNKNOWN]: Glory hoe.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: What's a glory hoe?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: Glory whole whole.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like a glory whole.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: I miss transcribed.
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[UNKNOWN]: I apologize.
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[UNKNOWN]: Max gas to JD was very sheltered life.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so there's certain things like it's not aware of.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I have to clue.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to know anything about any glory holes.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is what God meant to trouble.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's the firing squad.
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[UNKNOWN]: I drop bombs.
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[UNKNOWN]: You don't even have to fly to
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[UNKNOWN]: You were grown as men and you talk with a list and with all that said the platinum machining brighter than that bald head and that was basically all he said.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean not one of his better rap spots, that's exactly what he said.
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[UNKNOWN]: The crowd didn't really seem to react too much either, so.
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[UNKNOWN]: not a fell flat.
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[UNKNOWN]: So the re-odd line is what got him into hot water obviously after the match and then the clip that went around on social media The very next 18 a deleted its ex post of max caster's bound for glory entrance rap, which obviously started to draw backlash from the online audience as of this writing Either TNA or cares to as commented publicly until today and max cares to put out an apology.
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[UNKNOWN]: I did watch the apology.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure Jason did as well
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, I know some in the community were not happy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Ali Al Marafi, chairman of the Qatar Pro Wrestling, criticized the line on X, he said, what occurred in this video, whether the company's knowledge or without is unacceptable and appalling.
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[UNKNOWN]: Then we had an update from PWInsider and they reported today that Max Caster is being caught from TNA and that was a Carlos Silva call, they're not bringing them back.
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[UNKNOWN]: Caster's believed to have signed the deal according to PWInsider, that would have paid Caster per appearance, which is what the majority of TNA deals are in 2026.
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[UNKNOWN]: The belief is that the company gave Caster creative freedom with his entrance and didn't know what was coming.
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[UNKNOWN]: few people within AEW noted that TNA should have known better, but also acknowledged part of the deal with Max's rap is he tries to create controversy by being as biting as possible.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I talked about this with coach today and it's very kind of, I don't know, it's very confusing as to why something like this even even happens to begin with.
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[UNKNOWN]: One, you know what you're getting with Max Caster and bringing him in and some of his controversial past and some of the things that he said that have been controversial.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know what you're getting when you're bringing him in.
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[UNKNOWN]: Number one, so you're bringing him in for what reason.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're bringing him in because he pushes the envelope and he pushes those buttons and it's good for engagement.
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[UNKNOWN]: But at the same time Jason, you bring in someone like Max Caster and his whole gimmick is to be that controversial.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if you kind of suppress him and kind of take that away from him, what is he exactly and who he's who is he?
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[UNKNOWN]: He's not really much in my personal opinion anyway.
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[UNKNOWN]: Number two.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't really understand why Max Castor came in and he knows where he is and he knows what the situation is.
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[UNKNOWN]: Obviously it's a sensitive topic with what he talked about here but you're walking into a company that is publicly known to have a relationship with WWE who has a relationship with the Saudis for the next
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[UNKNOWN]: seven eight years.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't really understand why he thought that was a good idea to do that on this show.
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[UNKNOWN]: When they are partnered with WWE who are partnered with the Saudi government.
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[UNKNOWN]: Number three, I don't know why TNA is running a sloppy shop like this because you would think that your biggest show with a year and you're bringing in someone like this.
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[UNKNOWN]: You would think that you would know what is going to be done on your show, what's not going to be done, what's going to be said, what's not going to be said.
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[UNKNOWN]: who allowed him to go out there with a free mic and go and say whatever he wants and who did not look over what he was going to say so that this did not happen publicly and now TNA and Max Casar have egg on their face.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't really understand how he even got there and how he was not looked at and said, all right man, let me let me look at your rap and see what's going on here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I proved this and you can go out there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Why didn't nobody look over what he was going to say?
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[UNKNOWN]: That's where I really draw the confusion.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, L-O-L-T-A, it's just another, another one of those moments.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know what you're getting when you bring Max Casterin.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is a man who at one point was suspended by AEW and Sense of Sensitivity training.
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[UNKNOWN]: Over a rap where he, among other things, talked about the duke LaCrosse, rape case and COVID and a whole bunch of other things.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I mean, this wasn't even close to the most offensive things he's ever said in a rap.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you know this.
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[UNKNOWN]: like you do your due diligence you with thinking you know kind of what you're getting here, um, I suspect that he didn't write anything down and show it to anybody nobody asked him about it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's funny to me that you know, and TNA put a statement out acknowledging, you know, and apologizing, but acknowledging what happened is saying they will no longer be working with him and they, they took responsibility for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So at least they did that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the fact is, they cannot fain like, oh my God, we can't believe this, this is so horrible and we apologize because they shared it out on all their channels.
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[UNKNOWN]: They shared it out on all their channels.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not like, oh my God, I can't believe what he just said.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like they're sitting in the back as he's saying it, and they realize how horrible it is.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they, as soon as he walks back through the curtain, get the hell out of here, wasn't anything like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: There wasn't an issue.
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[UNKNOWN]: until people on social media started to make it an issue.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they started to get heat for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Then they scrubbed it from YouTube and they scrubbed apparently on the TNA plus replay of the show, they cut the whole match out.
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[UNKNOWN]: So now they're just sort of scrubbing everything.
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[UNKNOWN]: They scrubbed all match out.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought I heard it was a decent match.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe so, but apparently, I guess I'm there.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't see it anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it just goes to show you like, at least they took quote-unquote took responsibility in their statement.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was a fine statement that they put out from a PR perspective.
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[UNKNOWN]: But they couldn't have been that bothered or offended by it themselves if they shared it out everywhere.
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[UNKNOWN]: Only when they started getting shit for it, did they realize, uh-oh, and then they pulled it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that's on TNA.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like you could say Max Caster was being stupid because this could have been a big opportunity for him and he blew it short.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he can help himself.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of his MO.
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[UNKNOWN]: He goes out there and he says stuff to shock people.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're like in the video that he put at he said, I'm an entertainer and I try to entertain people and even at a comment and there he goes, it was the most talked about thing on the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, yeah, but that's not necessarily a big flag since you just lost your gig.
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[UNKNOWN]: But that's how he thinks.
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[UNKNOWN]: I've got to entertain, I've got to shock people, I want them to be talking about me when this is over, and so you look at that and go, okay, he is who he is and TNA had to know that when they brought him in, I don't know who vouched for him or recommend it to bring him in.
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[UNKNOWN]: This more than anything is on TNA.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can't even put it mostly on Max, Max is who he is.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is on TNA.
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[UNKNOWN]: So any kind of blowback that they get, they deserve it 100% because like you said, how did they not know?
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[UNKNOWN]: How did they not go to him and say, look, you got to run this by us?
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you think?
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[UNKNOWN]: And what are you gonna talk about here?
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[UNKNOWN]: That's what happened with Tony Con, remember Tony Con?
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[UNKNOWN]: He was, what was it?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think he was writing dark at the time.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was doing everything.
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[UNKNOWN]: and caster said whatever it was that he said maybe it was the rap that I mentioned where he got suspended.
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[UNKNOWN]: But Tony took responsibility for it and said this should have been cleared and you know I should have known about this and this one never happened again.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so that was from that moment on I assume that you know he did any sort of rap they had to run it by Tony first.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so they learned a very valuable lesson because that really blew up in their face.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is the same thing here with T&A.
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[UNKNOWN]: But T&A had all of this past history to draw from and they still fucked up.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that's on them.
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[UNKNOWN]: I really don't have any sympathy for them in this because they should have known better.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, it goes to show you if T&A was all right with it when they aired it as the show was airing live and they retweeted it and put it all over their socials.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Big Bad WWE came breathing down their neck I'm assuming and they told them to pull
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know if it was WWE or they just realized once they saw the social media feedback, they said, you know what, this could become a thing with WWE and the more this becomes a thing on social media and if there's a hashtag and if we're trending and then it gets WWE's attention.
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[UNKNOWN]: we ought to take action here.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know, I don't know, WWE maybe said something or if they realized, oh shit, this is getting, this is getting out of hand here and this could become a problem for us.
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[UNKNOWN]: We need to get ahead of this.
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[UNKNOWN]: That maybe what happened here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's put a statement out, let's make it very clear that we don't condone this.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're not gonna work with this person anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so that way we don't ruffle any feathers.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, he did, like you said, he apologized, he apologized to Carlos Silva, he apologized to Moosey.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank Moose.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then he said, and then for anybody who's offended, I just want everyone to know that when I do these raps, it's never to offend people.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's only to entertain.
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[UNKNOWN]: So my mind is entertainment value first, and then if you're offended by it, that's your right.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I can't apologize for anyone being offended, but just know that it's not my intention to make people upset.
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[UNKNOWN]: If it gets a reaction, then I think I did my job.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was a very relevant part of the show and highly talked about, so I feel good about that, but the consequences of everything I'm accepting that, I can accept the facts of that.
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[UNKNOWN]: He certainly, certainly a relevant part of the show, yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's no way he seemed to double down on what he did and it really kind of like fully apologized, but uh, but look, again, this is he's doing what he feels this is what his his job is, you know, his job is to go out there and to wrap and to make people go, oh, make them uncomfortable, you know, with some of the comments that he makes, so it was one of these apologies where it's like, well, if you were offended by it, you know, I'm sorry, but, you know, that dot dot dot.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it was kind of like the apology, not apology, but I can't even put most of this on him, honestly.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, was it a stupid incentive thing to say, you know, a day or two after people were killed in missile attacks?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, it was.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you kind of know what you're going to get.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like you can't then pretend like, oh my God, we had no idea that, you know, we brought a snake in any bit us.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, no shit.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of on you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, what does this mean from Max Casino because he did this, it had a lot of blowback on social media.
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[UNKNOWN]: This could have been a great spot for him because he was a relevant name in that taking division.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was, I won't point.
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[UNKNOWN]: They were the hottest tag team in all the industry.
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[UNKNOWN]: And obviously Tony lost favor in the acclaim for one reason or another, nobody really knows.
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[UNKNOWN]: But then he leaves and he goes to TNA under this work per appearance deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he could have been a decent name in a much smaller pond than the overbladed A. W. Rosser.
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[UNKNOWN]: That could have been a good spot for him.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now what does this mean?
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[UNKNOWN]: They're clearly not going to bring him back.
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[UNKNOWN]: If they do, it's not going to be for a while.
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[UNKNOWN]: What happens to him now?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, is this going to be a huge thing about him and people are going to stay away from him?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, think about him.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, a W obviously didn't want to use him anymore because he hadn't wrestled a match for them since December, like he has, he did not wrestle a single match all year for a W. So Tony Khan obviously, you know, was going to let his contract expire.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're not bringing him back.
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[UNKNOWN]: TNA for the time being, they're not bringing him back.
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[UNKNOWN]: And given what he said here, I can't imagine the WWE is going to be all that interested in bringing him in either.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that really cuts out a lot of the options that he had available to him.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what that means for his immediate future, as far as if there's anybody out there that wants to sign him, he's just working dependence.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but he eliminated a few of his employment options by doing this.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, that sucks.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a talented guy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I hope things end up going right for him at some point.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, read the room, bro.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just read the room.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's something I shouldn't have been said two days after a missile attack hit the re-art airport.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... speaking reod there is news going around that uh... crown jewel obviously if you watch rock crown jewel is still are going on a schedule on november seventh uh... in reod Saudi Arabia they announced two matches confirm Chelsea green versus live morgan and roman renters and he's in will be taking place for the crown jewel championships
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[UNKNOWN]: Now there was a tweet that went out by Triple H Ron 8 a.m. this morning and he retweeted that the champion versus champion matches are going to be the two highlights of the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then there was a report from, I don't know who it was.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it was an extension of false finish, turn buckle, and apparently they said that there are plans to relocate crown jewel.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then I started seeing people, because I was live with coach, we're talking about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I saw a bedallipick it up and said, nothing's been confirmed, the show was still going on as scheduled in Saudi Arabia.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the travel advisory is still at a level three, and that is reconsider travel.
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[UNKNOWN]: The only other one, more serious than that is level four, and that is absolutely do not travel.
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[UNKNOWN]: Ryan Alvarez, a figure of the wrestling observer of the figure four weekly reported on Thursday that whether WWE holds crown jewel in re-odd was a big topic of conversation this week.
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[UNKNOWN]: Russell votes has reported that people at WWE who regularly travel to Saudi Arabia for the events have been asking whether
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[UNKNOWN]: Nikon even addressed Saudi Arabia's plans at one point, and a town hall in April, head of not-of-champions, were only going if it's safe or if we're allowed to be there.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was reported by Post-Rustling.
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[UNKNOWN]: If UFC citizens are allowed in at this time, it is declared deemed safe, and we are all going to be there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I know I heard you talk about this chase and you were very upfront with this on the sound off and you don't really make a huge deal about this except for cancel the fucking show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know what else to really say about fucking anything but just cancel the fucking show or move the show anyway.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, they're not going to cancel the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they move the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is very simple.
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[UNKNOWN]: Move the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I don't know if you saw the tweet that Turkey Alashique posted the other day.
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[UNKNOWN]: I did not see this.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he is the big power broker over there in Saudi Arabia.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's the one who I think broke or the WWE deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: And there's a big boxing fight coming up on it's either Halloween or the day before Halloween with Canelo Alvarez, big Mexican boxer, big star.
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[UNKNOWN]: Canelo Alvarez has come out and said, I'm going and I'm fight.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going no matter what.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, is it making like $40 million though?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, he's of course he's gonna get a big payday for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So of course he wants to go I don't know if he needs the money or what but he says he's going no matter what
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[UNKNOWN]: And so Turkey, Alashite posted a tweet the other day.
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[UNKNOWN]: Basically, and I don't have it in front of me, but basically he was saying, you know, how can Elow Alvarez has said he's gonna be coming over here to Saudi Arabia no matter what.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then he's talking about how here, you know, we have, you know, our people and our landmarks, and it's a great land that we have here, but it was the last line of the tweet, where he said something to the effect of
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[UNKNOWN]: Times like this really show you who your friends are and you you hear that and to me that is it's almost like a kind of ultimatum is the right word, but it's a message being sent.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a message being sent to the other people who maybe have events coming up there who might be considering the possibility of pulling out and moving the events somewhere else because it's not just WWE that hasn't event coming up in November, UFC has a fight night in December.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's coming to Saudi as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it sounded to me like a message to WWE and to Arya manual and them, like true friends will stick with you and they won't kind of pull out on you.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I don't doubt then, I think Melchers said this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't doubt that ultimately it's gonna be probably an Arya manual decision, even more so than Nick Kahn.
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[UNKNOWN]: I still feel like they're gonna wait as long as they possibly can.
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[UNKNOWN]: because they don't want to rock the boat.
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[UNKNOWN]: They don't want to offend his excellency.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they don't want to ruin potentially ruin this great relationship they have, which is a 50 or 60 million dollar windfall every single time they run there.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Mania, I'm sure it's going to be like 100 million.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're more.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's all about the money.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's about the money and it's about not upsetting Turkey Alashik, who was being very, it was very clear the message he was sending with that tweet.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I can understand maybe if they feel there's pressure on them, but there are certain situations where when people's lives are at risk, all of that goes out the window.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you can't tell me that if they pull out for this show, that they can't just add another event to the end of this deal and run a bonus Saudi event.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's of course I could, so they won't get their money in Q4 or Q1 or however long it takes for them to get their money after each Saudi show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And maybe they plan everything around the fact that they're going to have this money in this quarter and all that and I understand that, you know, it's business, but there are certain things that supersede that.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is not an isolated attack dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, I talked about this, I think, the week before.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was an attack on the airport in Rhea.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's one main commercial airport in Rhea.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it was attacked, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: The who the rebels, they have been firing rockets.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's just rockets or rockets and drones.
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[UNKNOWN]: This past weekend, it happened back to back days.
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[UNKNOWN]: There were back-to-back attacks on the airport.
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[UNKNOWN]: People died, multiple fatalities, people wounded, and they had put out a warning saying that this is gonna continue.
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[UNKNOWN]: No airport is safe, the air space is not safe.
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[UNKNOWN]: Or less than a month out from this show.
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[UNKNOWN]: The show is November 7th.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not as if there's gonna suddenly be some great resolution to this in the next few weeks.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they need time to plan if they're gonna move the show, right, logistically, you can't literally wait
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why they haven't already made this decision, why they haven't made this announcement.
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[UNKNOWN]: Certain things are just not worth it, the risk is not worth it, and I think it says a lot about where their priorities lie, that on RAW last night, they were still advertising this show for Riyadh.
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[UNKNOWN]: And like you said this morning in the tweet, they put the poster out, Triple H put it out, it says Riyadh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Why are we still talking about this show being in Riyadh?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why has this decision not already been made?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why are more wrestlers not speaking up about that was my next question to you is if this is this serious and I I put a tweet out yesterday, I mean, I don't want to speak for anybody, but I'm just speaking as a human being because I speak the way I would want to handle business if I'm a part of that roster.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to somebody, I can't, I can't go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Family man, a husband, a wife, yeah, you have kids at home.
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[UNKNOWN]: Why would you want to put yourself in a situation to go there?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why hasn't there been?
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[UNKNOWN]: And maybe there has been, we don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: But don't you think some of the bigger names should just bang together and say, hey, this is not something we want to do collectively as a team and we just don't want to be over there.
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[UNKNOWN]: If that does happen, do they actually change the location of the show?
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[UNKNOWN]: The only way that that happens is if you have multiple wrestlers including big names who come forward and say, we're not going.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because if they do that, you can't run the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Especially on a show like Crown Jewel where you have champion against champion.
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[UNKNOWN]: If the champions come out and say, we're not going, then that's it.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing WWE can do about it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they can hem and haunt right in and all that.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's why you can't have just one or two people who's saying, you know what?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't feel comfortable I'm not going to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is going to take a collective effort.
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[UNKNOWN]: And again, I don't want to speak for them like you said and I don't know what's going through their heads.
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[UNKNOWN]: Some wrestlers might be like Canelo Alvarez, where it's like, oh, you know, we're not going to be intimidated.
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[UNKNOWN]: Of course, we're going to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm willing to bet that there were a number of wrestlers though on that roster who were really hoping this show gets moved.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if they're not hoping that their families are.
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[UNKNOWN]: So at the end of the day, yes, if you have enough wrestlers who come out and say fuck this, why not go in?
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't force me to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: then they won't be able to do the show in re-ad.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're not, it's not like they have a group of, you know, backups that will just send in their play.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Roman Reigns doesn't want to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll send somebody else in his place.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how's that going to work?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know what it almost reminds me of, the argument for a union.
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[UNKNOWN]: This comes up every now and then I get questions about it, or I tell the story about hooking all those years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, if you really want to see a union in pro wrestling, all it would take is a good number of, when I say stars, I mean, people that have real, like big names in the wrestling industry to come forward and advocate for something like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the fact that it hasn't happened, means it tells you right there, when you're never going to see a pro wrestling union, it's just never going to happen, but it does speak
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[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, if you have enough of the roster who were supposed to fly over there, including the champions who are just not willing to do it, all they have to do is speak up.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's all they have to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then WWE will have no choice, but to move the show because you can't run the show of your top stars that wanna go.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's as simple as that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, average reports that there is an undisclosed U.S. city that they have as a potential alternative.
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[UNKNOWN]: But neither WWE nor TK was publicly named that location.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now Las Vegas obviously has been mentioned in speculation that there is no verify report confirming it as WWE shows and backup venue.
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[UNKNOWN]: The company has also not announced any change at all to this show whatsoever.
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[UNKNOWN]: So as far as we know, they're show is still going on on November 7th in Saudi Arabia.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and look, if anything is going to happen, I think it would happen in the next week or two, because if it's going to move, whether it's overseas in Europe or if it's somewhere here in the States, and I would have to think, I would like to think that they have
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[UNKNOWN]: like here domestically, a building that is kind of earmarked in the event that they have to move the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Otherwise, I mean, that would just be incredibly short sighted and stupid, but then you still have to sell tickets so you need time.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if there's going to be a decision made to me, it's going to be made in these next, you know, really in the next, like maybe 10 days or so.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, right now, it seems to be just business is usual, and I just
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[UNKNOWN]: I'd like to say that I can't believe it, but I guess in a way, I'm that really surprised at all, because I've said before, I think it would take an act of God for them to move this show and not run Saudi, even that or the government, like you said, upgrading the travel advisory and just that right saying, you know, you can't go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Short of something like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: At this point, I would be surprised if they even moved it and that's said, you know, because again, that tells you where their priorities are and that shouldn't just never be the case.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like again, people are getting killed here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you really want to take that risk?
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[UNKNOWN]: Can you even imagine that?
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're putting, they're legitimately putting a $50 million, $60 million price that I got on this and it's an entire roster's livelihood and life.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: For a wrestling show, this is not like some sort of fucking, you know, mission to save starving children, something like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like this is, this is all just so silly to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... but what's what's not silly is that people are being killed and there are threats that more of this is going to happen and there's no end in sight and so you you kind of way the pros and cons and the risks and the benefits and i just don't understand how the announcement hasn't already been made but it's all about the almighty dollar that's all comes down to well uh... will keep an eye on that like you said it's gonna fall in the lap of our Emmanuel uh...
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he's going to do or what he's going to say, but if he wants to come off like the hero here, then he knows what he has to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: If not, you're looking at Satan literally walking among Mungus, if that is the decision he decides to do and says, you know what, we're going to go and go on a schedule.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's awful.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, moving on from that, we have, let's see where my notes are here.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have news on the WWE ID program.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, this was a big talking point this week as Laney Lock.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... had left the program uh... she is or was the id champion for three hundred and twenty days there's a new w id champion in monica monro w w sources tell five full select at one point brok havoc was considered an even plan to win the id championship from when you look unfortunately havoc sustained an acl tear that will have a route likely for the next year
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[UNKNOWN]: Five full also was confirmed that at least five wrestlers from the recent trials for offered WWE ID deals, but we have not heard of any other full-time signings.
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[UNKNOWN]: Laney luck and Marcus matters.
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[UNKNOWN]: Marcus matters actually announced that he was leaving the program the day he competed at House of Glory on Friday.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I didn't know that or we didn't know that by the time he got the in the ring and competed against red.
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[UNKNOWN]: I found that when I got home.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he's no longer with the program as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: But then we find out Jason today, two more ID talent exit the program.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sam Holloway confirmed his departure and then my guy, Capuchino Jones is no longer part of the program.
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[UNKNOWN]: Scott Capuchino.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's gone.
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[UNKNOWN]: Santiago Rivera is also no longer part of the ID program.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not familiar with him, but Capuchino Jones, I am, and obviously Laney Luck and Marcus Mathers, we are as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: What is the point?
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[UNKNOWN]: I first of all, I don't know why they're leaving the program.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't really know what the reason would be outside of maybe they just wanted to soak up the knowledge and kind of get a feel for it and then go out there and make a name for themselves and then maybe venture back to WWE, but what do you think about when you read these stories Jason, is it something of
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[UNKNOWN]: The talent is walking away on their own, or WWE is not bringing them back.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if that is the case, you got someone like Laney Lock, who people are very high on.
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[UNKNOWN]: Mark is mad.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's we saw him first and I fucking good he is.
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[UNKNOWN]: Why would WWE allow that type of talent to walk and what is the point of the ID program if they're going to bring in talent like this and then just let them walk away and not bring them into NXT, which clearly I think most of these talents are ready for.
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[UNKNOWN]: These names are ready for.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, well, the whole idea of it, really, even the ID program or just developmental in general, I mean, not everybody is going to be called up to NXT or kind of be brought in on a full-time deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I get that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you look at a Marcus Mathers.
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[UNKNOWN]: You look at a Laney luck.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I've seen more of Mathers work than I have her work.
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[UNKNOWN]: But they're very good.
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[UNKNOWN]: And certainly, I think they would be deserving of an opportunity in NXT.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't know, the thing is we don't know if this was a situation where WWE maybe they had a deal for a certain period of time and it expired in WWE just wasn't interested in bringing him back or is this of their own doing where they're like, there's something about this program maybe it's sort of restrictive in some way and they made the decision themselves.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's the one thing that hasn't really been made clear from these reports, if it was their call or WWE call.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: But either way, it's a kind of a bad look, right, for the ID program.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because some of these people, you can't tell me that some of these people, especially someone like Mathers, is like, well, they're not WWE material, or they're not really that good.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like Mathers was personally handed his ID contract last year by William Riegel.
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[UNKNOWN]: and has really been high in a lot of people's lists and I think he would be a great fit in NXT and so did he make the decision himself was it a WWE thing we don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: but all of this happening at the same time.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's not the best look for the ID program.
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[UNKNOWN]: Remember what the ID program effectively is though?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's then basically getting first dibs on people that they want to sign and stopping anybody else from being able to sign them.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you could slap the ID designation on anybody you want to, really.
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[UNKNOWN]: and they'll probably accept it because, ooh, I get the WWE ID that is like the good house keeping seal of approval.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like Yellowstone Ranch and the Dutton family fucking brand and then you with their logo.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's exactly what everybody aspires for, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: And you can kind of hoard all of these different talents and let them still go out and work in these.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then if one day you decide, hey, you know what, we want to sign them full time, then you get first dibs on that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Why these people are suddenly departing or not being renewed or leaving or whatever is going on here doesn't speak very well to the ID program.
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[UNKNOWN]: The whole program to me, even to begin with, was very, kind of shady as the right word, but it was just very, like,
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was a way for them to cut corners because the NiL program wasn't developing talent the way that they wanted at the speed that they wanted.
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[UNKNOWN]: So they went back and basically did what they did in the original version of NXT and that is kind of fondly in these for talent, get them TV ready, give them the WWE style and the WWE production and get them on TV quicker than developing someone from college or a sports.
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[UNKNOWN]: outside pro wrestling, which may take four or five years for them to be ready at superstar level.
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[UNKNOWN]: WWE went back to doing what they used to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I heard today, I don't know who said it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Ibu of wrestling purist or self-made.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said that Triple H has been notoriously frustrated with the level of progression, especially on the male side from the WWE ID program.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, he said that on real.
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[UNKNOWN]: He made a mention that the women are progressing faster than the men.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I actually tend to believe Ebu when he says that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that they are frustrated by some of the talents and just cutting their weakest talents and just letting them go?
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[UNKNOWN]: Which I don't know why anybody will look at these talents this week.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, I don't buy that because again, how could you look at some of these names and say that they're weak talents?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like that blows my mind that anybody would even think that.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I can't imagine that's the case here.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know that I buy that necessarily.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I just, again, it's a bad look for the program when you have all the, it's kind of like when when there was a period of time this year where we heard about a lot of names who are asking for their release from TNA, it was like one right after the other after the other and when that happens, it's just a bad look and so now again, we don't know the circumstances if it was their call or the talents call, it's a bad look either way.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what's going on here.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying the program is ending or it's collapsing.
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[UNKNOWN]: It almost feels like it is in a way.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it's just very, very strange.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure you have had people who have left the program just voluntarily on their own.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think they get paid a small stipend.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe they do how much it is.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know and I don't know what some of the restrictions may be.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like I know there have been situations where they may have been booked for an independent show and then they get pulled by WWE to go do something else.
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[UNKNOWN]: So like there are situations like that that might kind of pop up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but what is the thought process behind some of these names, you know, departing or or, you know, kind of just not being renewed for lack of a better word.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: The whole situation is very bizarre to me, but they lost some very talented people and their loss is going to be somebody else's game because they're going to land somewhere.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, they're going to end up signing a contract with somebody even if it's not WWE.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's good, you don't want WWE to just snatch everybody up.
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[UNKNOWN]: You make a good point though, like we did go through this a number of years ago, where they were just signing all of these independent talents.
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[UNKNOWN]: We talk about the black and gold era of NXT.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, the time the black and gold era of NXT by and large, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: And there are some exceptions, whether it was a Tyler Breeze or a Bodala, but that black and gold era was populated by experience veterans from the independence scene.
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[UNKNOWN]: Johnny Gargano, Tomaso champ of Finn Baller, Kevin O and Sami Zane, Adrian Neville.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, on and on and on.
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[UNKNOWN]: Basically, they were, they were taking all this talent from like ring of honor and places like that and Triple H formed his own little super indie.
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[UNKNOWN]: And got all the credit for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Look at me.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, we got this great thing going on here in NXT.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you just get to a point where it's like, you got to start creating your own talents.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's what the PC is supposed to be for.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it has borne some fruit, whether it's Obofemi or Bianca Bellaire, Tiffany Stratton went through that system.
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[UNKNOWN]: Bron Braker, trick Williams, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: There are some success stories in there.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's what they need to do more of here.
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[UNKNOWN]: But with this ID stuff, yeah, it's kind of like, in a way, they may, like Marcus Mathers may not be a big name on the independency, yet the way that some of those guys were.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you need guys who have that independent experience, and girls who have that independent experience and they travel all over the world, you can't just create everybody out of a factory.
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[UNKNOWN]: You need some of these people from the independent scene.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's seem like they kind of have that realization here.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they're like, all right, we want first dibs on these people.
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[UNKNOWN]: But why they're all leaving right now?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just very strange to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know if it's a leadership thing, I don't know if Gabe Sapolsky down there is doing something that they don't like or or maybe they don't agree with the way he manages things.
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[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's evolved NXT.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, actually if you want to do evolve TNA, then NXT and LFG.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, LFG.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like, so there's several different ways you got to go in the WWE says them.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about the LF, a lot of the LFG winners too are no longer around.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, batting average with that hasn't been great.
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, keep an eye on that maybe maybe we'll get some cappuccino Jones in House of glory, man, that would be fucking great, you know who knows keep an eye on this cappuccino, sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Marcus Matt.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is fucking great.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's gonna.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's only 23 years old.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he'll find success.
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[UNKNOWN]: Laney luck is going to get picked up.
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[UNKNOWN]: So they always come back around.
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[UNKNOWN]: If WWE wants you, does certainly make it known.
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[UNKNOWN]: Moving on with the rest of what we have here, we're going to get into the money in the bank discussion.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll save whatever little AEW talk we have for the end of the show because they really isn't much.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll just go over what happened with the Grantsland France and NXT ratings and then we'll give you a little brief preview of what's to come on tomorrow's Dynamite.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it's going to be money in the bank from this point on until the end of the show because there was a lot that happened then obviously a Monday net rose.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, with Carmelo Hayes and that great match for Chad Gable and Ray Phoenix.
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[UNKNOWN]: largely, I struggle Jason with my initial opinion on this show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I watched and you know, you and I went live and it's difficult to really form a solid opinion on a show like this because you watch a show and you can instantly tell it's a great show or if it's a bad show, you know, it's going to be a it's going to be a fucking one of those reviews where it's going to be very ranty with this show, it's like,
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't necessarily dislike this show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of what happened on the show I genuinely liked.
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[UNKNOWN]: But man, this might have been one of the worst creatively book shows that Triple H has given us all year.
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[UNKNOWN]: The one thing I could see here and say is that they almost got everything wrong on that show come out of Saturday, creatively going into Monday.
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[UNKNOWN]: So at the end of the day, I think I gave it maybe a six out of 10.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that was being very fair because we got some memorable moments.
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[UNKNOWN]: We had a great opening match.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought the men's ladder match was largely very good.
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[UNKNOWN]: And everything in between kind of just was there.
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[UNKNOWN]: But creatively, man, I thought this was one huge botch.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was a very creatively frustrating show.
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[UNKNOWN]: It just seemed like the only, the only outcome to me that they really got right was the men's ladder match.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, and I had picked Kevin Owens.
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[UNKNOWN]: If Kevin Owens were to one, I would have been very happy and look, a brown breaker would have won.
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[UNKNOWN]: Fine.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Penta winning though, it surprised me in that, wow, they actually went with him.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I was very happy with the outcome and happy for him and everybody in the crowd was happy.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's good to give the fans something to cheer about because I've talked about how much of a heel gimmick money in the bank has turned into over the years.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was the first baby face men's winner since Big E. Five years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that was the only outcome where I was like, all right, they got it right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then I look at a lot of these other matches and not that I was surprised that Roman won or that they went back to Tiffany.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it was just, it was very deflating, you know?
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[UNKNOWN]: We talk about how they play it safe a lot.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes playing it safe makes sense and sometimes it's okay not to.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they had the chance to, you know, have some outcomes go a different way that I think would have made things a little more fun, a little more interesting.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I frankly am just bewildered by the outcome of the women's money in the bank match.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I saw there was a report I want to say it was from false finish today that said that Roxanne Perez was originally supposed to win money in the back.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know when that decision to have Tiffany when was made.
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[UNKNOWN]: How the process that came or why that was changed.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think they said the same thing about brown breaker.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think originally that they said brawn and rock sand at one point anyway were were tabbed to be the winners of the latter matches.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I got I got news on why they went with Tiffany.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you saw the article, but when you hear the reason why, first of all, you're not going to be shocked, but it may anger more people even more so than they are already angry that that's if anyone the money in the back.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I did not hear this.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I did not hear this.
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[UNKNOWN]: So why don't you just let's talk about this now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let later on me now because I did not see what the rationale was behind them doing that.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, Tiffany Schratten won the women's money in the bank for a second time.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's two out of the last three years.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we had Tiffany when it three years ago, Naomi and then Tiffany won it this year.
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[UNKNOWN]: So
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[UNKNOWN]: According to WrestleVotes, this is T.C.
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[UNKNOWN]: of WrestleVotes.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, Roxanne Perez had become such a popular pick heading into the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I picked Roxanne, Jason pick Roxanne, just looking at the lay of the land on Raw with Liv and the judgment day and the story that they told there, they told it, then they stopped it and then just kind of put it on hold for a little bit.
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[UNKNOWN]: Everyone's like, Roxanne is due.
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[UNKNOWN]: She doesn't have double digit wins this year.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's got to win something, give her something.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can already see where you're going with this.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm getting angry just thinking about it.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is going to be good.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want to see Solomon Monster angry.
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[UNKNOWN]: So she was such a popular pick heading into the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: That WWE decided to go the other way.
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[UNKNOWN]: According to TC, shout out to TC and Joey Vultz.
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[UNKNOWN]: Two good guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: According to him, the company had been putting a bigger emphasis on staying ahead of fan predictions.
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[UNKNOWN]: And once it became obvious that so many people expect a Roxanne Perez to win, Tiffany became the surprise option.
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[UNKNOWN]: He says, and like, well, the zig-zags come in.
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[UNKNOWN]: A lot of people started to get on the Roxanne Perez train and now more so than ever.
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[UNKNOWN]: WWE wants to stay one step ahead of everyone's predictions and thought process.
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[UNKNOWN]: It even goes so far as WWE radio on serious.
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[UNKNOWN]: A lot of the contributors on that program had those people picked as most likely to win.
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[UNKNOWN]: He then adds that Tiffany winning wasn't the outcome most people saw coming, which made her the perfect choice if the goal was to catch everyone off guard.
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[UNKNOWN]: He also noted that WWE already has a story waiting for her and Chelsea Green so the briefcase win wasn't just one or done for the sake of a shot finish.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's listen.
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[UNKNOWN]: not not a lot of people had Tiffany to come in and win the briefcase as TC.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was a doing different to be different situation.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, there is a story there with her and Chelsea Green, and I'm sure it will see that play out.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that lines up with the reactions after the show fans were expecting Roxanne Perez to have her breakout moment, but WWE won a completely different direction.
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[UNKNOWN]: The backlash was immediate across social media when Roxanne lost the briefcase and then live.
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[UNKNOWN]: One, the women's world championship began from Stephanie and Becky.
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[UNKNOWN]: So Jason, they had a beautiful story there laid out and because we all predicted it, Triple S said, you know what, fuck the fans in the right decision.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna give them something else.
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[UNKNOWN]: That doesn't need it in Tiffany Shradn.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you think of that?
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[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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[UNKNOWN]: all the potential outcomes to some of these matches on this PLE.
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[UNKNOWN]: There were multiple matches.
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[UNKNOWN]: The logic that you just talked about, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: If this is true, the logic that you just talked about could have been applied to the World Heavyweight Championship match, it could have been applied to Oberfemi and Bronson Reed.
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[UNKNOWN]: where the obvious winners would have been Roman and Oba.
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[UNKNOWN]: But if you think that most people just assume they're going to win, you can go the other way with it and have Bronson read, pick up a win, or have LA night when the World Heavyweight Championship.
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[UNKNOWN]: Instead of doing that, let's pick the outcome that people, while maybe it was predictable, people actually wanted to see.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll change that one to someone different,
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know too many people who really wanted to see Tiffany Stratton win for a second time.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's the one that will change.
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[UNKNOWN]: So of all the potential options to kind of throw people off and go with a bit of a swirl, they chose the one match that they should not have done that with.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is that what you're telling me?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's a very WWE way of doing things.
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess I shouldn't be shocked by this, but that just makes me, I mean, that just makes me even more angry than I was before about the outcome here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because I said coming in, the one person if you look at the lineup of women in this ladder match would have benefited the most from the win here, which Roxanne Perez.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was nobody else in this match that needed it in my opinion, or would have benefited from it as much as her.
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[UNKNOWN]: Lola is still new.
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[UNKNOWN]: So sure you could have given it to soul, but like, eh, again, I wouldn't have done that, uh, lash.
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then Jacy didn't really need it.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's got the US title.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like up and down the line.
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[UNKNOWN]: Tiffany doesn't need it.
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[UNKNOWN]: The story that you can do with her and Chelsea doesn't need the briefcase.
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[UNKNOWN]: Give it to Roxanne.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Roxanne has been so overlooked this entire year.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then looking at what they did in the women's world championship match later in the show,
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, dude, that made it even worse when I saw what they did with Live Morgan.
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[UNKNOWN]: I said, why the fuck did they not have Roxanne Perez walk out of here with that briefcase?
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[UNKNOWN]: So just, I'm blown away by that.
01:00:00.346 --> 01:00:04.627
[UNKNOWN]: Again, not that shock that you suppose, but blown away by that.
01:00:04.667 --> 01:00:08.227
[UNKNOWN]: If that is, you know, what was their thought process involved here?
01:00:08.867 --> 01:00:11.988
[UNKNOWN]: Because when Tiffany won, I was just like, again, that was my reaction.
01:00:12.008 --> 01:00:13.088
[UNKNOWN]: When she pulled the briefcase down.
01:00:13.568 --> 01:00:15.669
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, again, why?
01:00:15.689 --> 01:00:16.449
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I felt nothing.
01:00:18.366 --> 01:00:19.467
[UNKNOWN]: I was confused.
01:00:19.527 --> 01:00:21.968
[UNKNOWN]: I was disappointed and I was just like, why?
01:00:22.168 --> 01:00:23.669
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we doing this again?
01:00:23.769 --> 01:00:25.190
[UNKNOWN]: Why was this necessary?
01:00:25.870 --> 01:00:32.674
[UNKNOWN]: Unless they want to sell more be dazzled money in the bank briefcase to go to the point that we talked about before about them.
01:00:33.054 --> 01:00:35.636
[UNKNOWN]: The merch aspect factors into a lot of these decisions.
01:00:36.416 --> 01:00:42.780
[UNKNOWN]: But I just, again, it boggles the mind sometimes, you know, the thought process behind some of these decisions.
01:00:43.807 --> 01:00:50.090
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so yeah, I was very disappointed when I saw that outcome to the match, two minutes into the match.
01:00:50.291 --> 01:00:51.491
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we saw what happened with her.
01:00:52.031 --> 01:00:52.612
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, she's lucky.
01:00:52.632 --> 01:00:54.253
[UNKNOWN]: She was even able to finish that match.
01:00:55.193 --> 01:00:57.474
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but yeah, Roxanne gets the short end of the stick.
01:00:57.514 --> 01:00:59.355
[UNKNOWN]: And then I, and then we're kind of jumping ahead here.
01:00:59.375 --> 01:01:02.997
[UNKNOWN]: But they did do something on Raw last night with Roxanne where she actually want to match.
01:01:03.197 --> 01:01:04.458
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I thought that was damage controls.
01:01:04.478 --> 01:01:05.018
[UNKNOWN]: What I call it.
01:01:05.619 --> 01:01:11.202
[UNKNOWN]: Well, call it whatever you want to to me that was one of that was a bigger surprise than what we saw in the main event of the show.
01:01:11.302 --> 01:01:12.903
[UNKNOWN]: The fact that Roxanne Perez want to match.
01:01:13.683 --> 01:01:16.365
[UNKNOWN]: That was her second win, by the way, on Raw in 2026.
01:01:16.545 --> 01:01:17.866
[UNKNOWN]: That's fucking weird.
01:01:17.886 --> 01:01:19.467
[UNKNOWN]: We're here now in October.
01:01:19.587 --> 01:01:20.988
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she calls herself the prodigy.
01:01:21.288 --> 01:01:23.510
[UNKNOWN]: You would think that she would win matches if you call herself that.
01:01:24.010 --> 01:01:29.995
[UNKNOWN]: Well, she should call herself the computer of what that might be a more appropriate way to describe her.
01:01:30.535 --> 01:01:37.737
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, so now it looks like maybe this could potentially be there kind of work around here.
01:01:37.777 --> 01:01:46.299
[UNKNOWN]: We're like, okay, well, she got a win over the WWE Women's Champion on TV last night, and now she's probably going to get a title match realistically.
01:01:46.339 --> 01:01:48.820
[UNKNOWN]: I don't expect them to do a title change.
01:01:49.942 --> 01:01:59.125
[UNKNOWN]: But to me, through a way, what would have been just a great, it's not even just that old people like Roxanne, story wise, there was so much potential there.
01:01:59.165 --> 01:01:59.665
[UNKNOWN]: Was there not?
01:02:00.185 --> 01:02:01.886
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we seen it play out in real time.
01:02:01.926 --> 01:02:03.306
[UNKNOWN]: You saw Roxanne's frustration.
01:02:03.346 --> 01:02:09.268
[UNKNOWN]: She was like, a pushover, live was kind of overlooking her, and then they just dropped it.
01:02:10.608 --> 01:02:12.129
[UNKNOWN]: Then while they dropped it at the beginning of the year.
01:02:13.580 --> 01:02:17.021
[UNKNOWN]: Like it just, they were building tension between her and live.
01:02:17.581 --> 01:02:20.821
[UNKNOWN]: And then it's like the switch got flipped and they said, we're gonna go a different way with this.
01:02:21.821 --> 01:02:23.702
[UNKNOWN]: So I would love to know what happened there.
01:02:24.302 --> 01:02:26.202
[UNKNOWN]: It seemed like they had a plan and then they didn't.
01:02:26.562 --> 01:02:27.662
[UNKNOWN]: And that was at the beginning of the year.
01:02:28.603 --> 01:02:41.745
[UNKNOWN]: So now they had a chance of circle back around and maybe they still will, but they had a chance with the briefcase to really circle back around to it and build up some real tension, even if they didn't want her to cash in that night, which was like the idea that I pitched, but you didn't even have to do it that way.
01:02:42.473 --> 01:02:46.715
[UNKNOWN]: And they just threw it all the way for really no good reason at all.
01:02:47.016 --> 01:02:51.358
[UNKNOWN]: Like what you just described to me, that's not a good reason to be picking winners in these matches.
01:02:51.418 --> 01:02:52.218
[UNKNOWN]: No, of course not.
01:02:52.258 --> 01:02:59.382
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's completely, it's like what Vince did, you know, with with Christian all those years ago.
01:03:00.083 --> 01:03:03.585
[UNKNOWN]: I will always go back to that as an example because it's just it's just classic.
01:03:04.245 --> 01:03:08.090
[UNKNOWN]: You know, where Christian was going to come back and few would you have hearty over the championship?
01:03:08.710 --> 01:03:16.399
[UNKNOWN]: But too many people knew, so we'll have Matt Hardy turn on his brother and we'll throw a Christian in ECW, which gave us the infamous Todd Wishemov.
01:03:16.459 --> 01:03:22.806
[UNKNOWN]: I just go to show you that the company, in my opinion, and this is probably fact anyway, they hate their fanbase.
01:03:22.847 --> 01:03:23.708
[UNKNOWN]: They hate their fans.
01:03:23.728 --> 01:03:24.849
[UNKNOWN]: They hate the internet fan.
01:03:25.812 --> 01:03:33.499
[UNKNOWN]: I think there is something to the idea that because everybody is like a Monday morning quarterback, and it's no different with sports fans.
01:03:33.539 --> 01:03:46.791
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is this is sports talk radio right with wrestling, it's wrestling podcasting, but everybody, you know, they kind of they criticize certain ideas, and then they propose there are why why don't they do this or why didn't they do that?
01:03:47.711 --> 01:03:52.516
[UNKNOWN]: And I try sometimes as someone who does criticize some of these ideas to put myself in those shoes.
01:03:54.042 --> 01:04:06.213
[UNKNOWN]: And even with some of the stuff that maybe on a much smaller level, obviously, like with House of Glory and stuff, it's like you put yourself in that position where you have people who will second guess ideas that you come up with.
01:04:06.914 --> 01:04:12.539
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe you have an idea for like a longer term story and people don't like something that happen on one show, right?
01:04:13.680 --> 01:04:18.202
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure it's got to be frustrating for some of the writers and some of the people who were involved in this process.
01:04:18.623 --> 01:04:23.445
[UNKNOWN]: And they look at it and they probably do resent a good portion of their fanbase for it.
01:04:24.226 --> 01:04:28.808
[UNKNOWN]: And then there are times where they may be like, you know what, just to spite them, we're going to do this.
01:04:29.688 --> 01:04:30.849
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're not going to do that.
01:04:31.809 --> 01:04:33.670
[UNKNOWN]: And we're going to show that we know better.
01:04:33.871 --> 01:04:34.051
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04:35.011 --> 01:04:36.592
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm sure that does happen, actually.
01:04:37.452 --> 01:04:40.454
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how often it happens, but do I believe that sort of thing happens?
01:04:40.474 --> 01:04:41.074
[UNKNOWN]: 100%?
01:04:41.434 --> 01:04:41.955
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:04:42.732 --> 01:04:44.133
[UNKNOWN]: But we talk we talk it out.
01:04:44.173 --> 01:04:50.658
[UNKNOWN]: We go through what would work, what's best, what's not going to work and what's the worst decision out of them all.
01:04:51.219 --> 01:04:55.622
[UNKNOWN]: Tiffany Tiffany was not even the worst decision in that match creative.
01:04:55.682 --> 01:04:57.583
[UNKNOWN]: Lash legend in my opinion would have been the worst.
01:04:57.623 --> 01:05:04.909
[UNKNOWN]: And I know that there was people going around saying that the bookies and Las Vegas had her pencil in as the odds on favorite, the odds were in her favor.
01:05:05.189 --> 01:05:06.190
[UNKNOWN]: Thank god that didn't happen.
01:05:06.250 --> 01:05:08.172
[UNKNOWN]: But Tiffany was the second worst.
01:05:08.752 --> 01:05:19.999
[UNKNOWN]: And we talked about that Tiffany winning the money in the bank briefcase, you don't need her to win the briefcase to play out a possible heel turn against Chelsea Green and to get her to that spot.
01:05:20.600 --> 01:05:24.682
[UNKNOWN]: Now we're now we're discussing because we can't go back and change what happened on Saturday.
01:05:24.742 --> 01:05:29.906
[UNKNOWN]: Now we're looking at Tiffany with the money in the bank briefcase and I pitched on Saturday Jason when I was live on on my review.
01:05:29.986 --> 01:05:31.707
[UNKNOWN]: I said, well, now this is what I would do.
01:05:32.147 --> 01:05:41.050
[UNKNOWN]: And it's going to only exacerbate and bring to light how much worse of a decision it was to not give Roxanne Perez the briefcase because one of about to say is ultimately going to waste the briefcase.
01:05:41.650 --> 01:05:46.351
[UNKNOWN]: Tiffany cash is in and loses because I agree.
01:05:46.751 --> 01:05:53.533
[UNKNOWN]: I actually think if the plan if you want to turn Tiffany heel, it would be better to have her cash in a loop.
01:05:53.573 --> 01:05:53.793
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:05:54.713 --> 01:05:58.514
[UNKNOWN]: And because they've been harping on the fact that they have a 100% success rate with all the
01:06:00.795 --> 01:06:08.560
[UNKNOWN]: So to have her cash in, maybe in like a friendly way, instead of ambushing Chelsea with her shot, her briefcase.
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:15.902
[UNKNOWN]: because they're friends, say it to her face, cash in, it may be an advance, and then lose.
01:06:16.583 --> 01:06:18.103
[UNKNOWN]: And then that just sends her over the edge.
01:06:18.263 --> 01:06:19.724
[UNKNOWN]: Because she tried to be a nice person.
01:06:19.744 --> 01:06:22.065
[UNKNOWN]: She tried to be a good friend and a blew up in her face.
01:06:22.465 --> 01:06:24.605
[UNKNOWN]: And you can use that as the catalyst to a heel turn.
01:06:24.986 --> 01:06:28.307
[UNKNOWN]: And now that she won the briefcase, I'm kind of hoping that's what they do.
01:06:29.307 --> 01:06:34.869
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm just saying, to get to that point, if the goal would be to get to Tiffany and Chelsea, if that is the plan.
01:06:34.889 --> 01:06:36.510
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't need the briefcase to do it.
01:06:37.941 --> 01:06:41.423
[UNKNOWN]: This other person would have benefited far more from holding onto that thing.
01:06:41.824 --> 01:06:47.628
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't a gimmick or a prop that was needed in that story to make that story work.
01:06:48.128 --> 01:06:49.509
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what frustrated me.
01:06:50.090 --> 01:06:53.472
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like you gave it to this person when it wasn't needed in this situation.
01:06:53.770 --> 01:07:07.097
[UNKNOWN]: Well, then I think is WWE actually going to give Tiffany the championship because then I look at the lay of the land with crown jewel is Chelsea Green vs. Liv Morgan a match that people really interested in seeing at crown jewel.
01:07:07.498 --> 01:07:14.662
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to go and give us something like that, which to me, it sounds like more of a Monday night or Friday night matches that of a PLE match.
01:07:15.122 --> 01:07:18.784
[UNKNOWN]: Do they get for the championship and just do Tiffany and Liv at crown jewel?
01:07:20.823 --> 01:07:30.430
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they could, but again, I don't know, either way, it's not a match that it's not like a big marquee match that's been built up over this why I hate the fucking crown jewel matches.
01:07:30.450 --> 01:07:31.371
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's not awful.
01:07:31.391 --> 01:07:31.791
[UNKNOWN]: I hate this.
01:07:31.931 --> 01:07:35.534
[UNKNOWN]: I fucking hate this whole show, this whole gimmick.
01:07:36.335 --> 01:07:41.719
[UNKNOWN]: They ran raw versus smack that into the ground as survivors series years ago to the point where I just didn't want to see it anymore.
01:07:41.759 --> 01:07:47.503
[UNKNOWN]: I was actually elated when they brought war games in because at least it was not the stupid raw versus smack them bullsh way.
01:07:47.523 --> 01:07:49.465
[UNKNOWN]: We've got the red shirts and the blue shirts over here.
01:07:50.358 --> 01:07:52.359
[UNKNOWN]: And now with this, it's just so meaningless.
01:07:53.099 --> 01:07:57.961
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they have the big gaudy belts that they made and they have to do this now once, oh, it's crown jewel season.
01:07:58.001 --> 01:08:03.083
[UNKNOWN]: So we got to do Seth and Cody and we got to do, you know, we're gonna do Chelsea and fucking live.
01:08:03.123 --> 01:08:09.626
[UNKNOWN]: You made to tell me man, you're not over the moon excited about watching the two federal agents come with that huge fucking case.
01:08:10.046 --> 01:08:13.127
[UNKNOWN]: With the 1000 jewels in the title belt, you know, excited about that?
01:08:13.656 --> 01:08:17.077
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's usually, it's usually Paul, who's in a regular video.
01:08:17.957 --> 01:08:21.278
[UNKNOWN]: The ring, to have the ring, too, right there, to the ring, to let the crown jewel ring, yeah.
01:08:22.238 --> 01:08:23.999
[UNKNOWN]: But it's like, I fucking hate this.
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:25.299
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, it's so pointless.
01:08:25.859 --> 01:08:27.720
[UNKNOWN]: It's so pointless, it's so meaningless.
01:08:28.940 --> 01:08:30.100
[UNKNOWN]: But this is what they want to do.
01:08:30.140 --> 01:08:32.581
[UNKNOWN]: And so I don't know that there's any women's match right now.
01:08:32.641 --> 01:08:33.401
[UNKNOWN]: Rear Ripley's out.
01:08:33.421 --> 01:08:36.782
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe rea being super popular, rea was not injured.
01:08:37.562 --> 01:08:59.842
[UNKNOWN]: uh... maybe there's some matches you could have done what rea against somebody at the other side and people would have been excited for that but i don't know that there's any possible women's match right now that they could do when it comes to this crown jewel stuff with the time they have between now and then that would really get people terribly excited i don't think there's any one that you can do maybe they shocked the world in rocks and peres wins the smack down title to get rocks and verse live a crown jewel
01:09:02.586 --> 01:09:04.046
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, but how does that work them?
01:09:04.106 --> 01:09:07.147
[UNKNOWN]: Because if she wins that championship, then she would be on SmackDown now.
01:09:07.387 --> 01:09:07.527
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:09:07.547 --> 01:09:10.288
[UNKNOWN]: So you would do the mess that I'm just, I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
01:09:10.308 --> 01:09:11.268
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying they could do that.
01:09:11.288 --> 01:09:14.949
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm just saying, like if that was the goal here, because she's gonna get a title badge.
01:09:15.090 --> 01:09:15.510
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:09:15.590 --> 01:09:18.971
[UNKNOWN]: Adam Pierce told her, hey, if you want a title badge, go to SmackDown, talk to Nick Aldous.
01:09:19.991 --> 01:09:20.851
[UNKNOWN]: And she should get one.
01:09:21.391 --> 01:09:23.832
[UNKNOWN]: I believe that when you pin the champion, you should get a shot.
01:09:24.790 --> 01:09:29.014
[UNKNOWN]: So if we do get that match, I don't think she's going to win it, but let's say she does.
01:09:29.895 --> 01:09:41.725
[UNKNOWN]: Now you're in a situation where you're rushing into a live Morgan Roxanne Perez match, which you could have built up over a period of time heading into, I mean, if not WrestleMania at some point, maybe early in 2027.
01:09:42.446 --> 01:09:45.008
[UNKNOWN]: So you do the match at crown jewel, you blow it off there, and then what?
01:09:45.328 --> 01:09:46.409
[UNKNOWN]: Now she's on a different brand.
01:09:46.690 --> 01:09:47.931
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's all like they're going to feud.
01:09:49.053 --> 01:09:49.813
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't make any sense.
01:09:50.173 --> 01:09:51.274
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't make any sense.
01:09:51.494 --> 01:09:53.635
[UNKNOWN]: WWE made this a lot more difficult for themselves.
01:09:53.655 --> 01:09:55.856
[UNKNOWN]: They just should have gave Roxie the money in the bank.
01:09:56.116 --> 01:10:00.578
[UNKNOWN]: But then you get people who are coping and they go through these different stages of like cope.
01:10:00.978 --> 01:10:06.240
[UNKNOWN]: Well maybe, and all I heard on my, on my own was, maybe Roxie will win the Royal Rumble.
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:08.702
[UNKNOWN]: Like, are you fucking people out of your mind?
01:10:08.722 --> 01:10:12.405
[UNKNOWN]: Like, first of all, the Royal Rumble is not happening into February.
01:10:12.425 --> 01:10:14.047
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of people on Twitter.
01:10:14.807 --> 01:10:16.749
[UNKNOWN]: Rumble had happened until February 6, number one.
01:10:17.010 --> 01:10:22.915
[UNKNOWN]: Number two, re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re
01:10:23.015 --> 01:10:27.939
[UNKNOWN]: Rocks and Perez and L.A. No, you know, why don't we want to see this themselves?
01:10:28.739 --> 01:10:29.260
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:10:29.440 --> 01:10:31.121
[UNKNOWN]: Why did they torture themselves like this?
01:10:31.421 --> 01:10:31.782
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:10:32.142 --> 01:10:34.404
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, at the end of the day, they fucked up.
01:10:34.744 --> 01:10:37.206
[UNKNOWN]: That's all that, that all, that's all that really matters here.
01:10:37.226 --> 01:10:37.726
[UNKNOWN]: They fucked up.
01:10:38.447 --> 01:10:39.848
[UNKNOWN]: Um, the match itself.
01:10:40.792 --> 01:10:45.056
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I, I, I don't know what to think about the women's money, the bank loud matches.
01:10:45.076 --> 01:10:47.078
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like they all just kind of blend into each other.
01:10:47.098 --> 01:10:48.359
[UNKNOWN]: They're all kind of the same.
01:10:48.859 --> 01:10:51.402
[UNKNOWN]: This one to me, this was a mess.
01:10:51.862 --> 01:10:52.503
[UNKNOWN]: It was a mess.
01:10:52.803 --> 01:11:00.289
[UNKNOWN]: It was a car crash that, you know, you typically say it was so fucking car crashy and crazy that you couldn't look away from it.
01:11:00.930 --> 01:11:07.817
[UNKNOWN]: But at the end of the day Jason is like the one thing that I really did not like and I and I talked about this with coach today.
01:11:08.738 --> 01:11:21.189
[UNKNOWN]: Minus the the spots with with JC and Lola and the ladders fucking bumping on the on the ropes and they slide in downwards onto the concrete or what Tiffany jumping from the ladder and missing everybody because she set the ladder up wrong.
01:11:21.490 --> 01:11:23.111
[UNKNOWN]: The one thing I took away from the matches.
01:11:24.252 --> 01:11:27.638
[UNKNOWN]: WWE puts such an emphasis on these matches, being car crashes.
01:11:28.379 --> 01:11:34.608
[UNKNOWN]: There's no rhyme or reason, there's no build to even build up to an important spot like that.
01:11:34.708 --> 01:11:39.075
[UNKNOWN]: They went and had Tiffany jump off that ladder with the 90 seconds of the fucking match starting.
01:11:39.976 --> 01:11:48.022
[UNKNOWN]: But where's the build-up to actually leading to that spot, to make it feel important, to make it feel like a big deal, or a turning point in the match?
01:11:48.302 --> 01:11:53.565
[UNKNOWN]: They had her jump off the ladder, and she had the ladder facing the wrong way, which she gave herself no room to even jump.
01:11:53.966 --> 01:12:01.171
[UNKNOWN]: She felt like O'Cotta would jump off the top rope, doing one of his lazy elbow drops, and she didn't get any height on, and she's a fucking gymnast.
01:12:01.731 --> 01:12:10.835
[UNKNOWN]: And it just looked terrible and I called that out with coach today and it's like, they just immediately go to that stupid shit because it's a ladder match and we got to get people jumping off the fucking ladders.
01:12:11.295 --> 01:12:13.676
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really like anything about the layout of the whole match.
01:12:13.896 --> 01:12:14.276
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think?
01:12:15.778 --> 01:12:22.362
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it just felt like I, every time I watch these, I just, I fear for their, for their lives.
01:12:22.402 --> 01:12:22.622
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:12:23.103 --> 01:12:26.185
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, all these latter matches are dangerous.
01:12:26.205 --> 01:12:27.465
[UNKNOWN]: And so you hope nobody gets hurt.
01:12:27.485 --> 01:12:28.726
[UNKNOWN]: But like I was fearing.
01:12:28.786 --> 01:12:31.348
[UNKNOWN]: Like there were, there were some spots where it was like men.
01:12:31.368 --> 01:12:32.909
[UNKNOWN]: Someone's going to get fucking killed here.
01:12:33.909 --> 01:12:39.133
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and the one that we just talked about with Tiffany, that was like 90 seconds or two minutes, whatever it was into the match.
01:12:39.842 --> 01:12:57.835
[UNKNOWN]: And you heard that thud when her head hit the floor, not like, oh my god, and then so the match kind of grinded to a halt at that point and a letter back in and I would certainly hope they at least, you know, felt as if okay, she she may be heard, but she's not hurt like concussed although when the match was over, she said her head was hurting her.
01:12:58.555 --> 01:13:05.342
[UNKNOWN]: And then last night on Raw, I think, who made the comment about, you know, your friend Tiffany, she, she's out.
01:13:05.522 --> 01:13:05.702
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:13:05.882 --> 01:13:07.604
[UNKNOWN]: Wouldn't shock me if she was out for a few years.
01:13:07.624 --> 01:13:09.766
[UNKNOWN]: Well, she did seem a little loopy on the Potio.
01:13:09.826 --> 01:13:10.947
[UNKNOWN]: Media scroll.
01:13:10.967 --> 01:13:11.448
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:13:12.048 --> 01:13:12.268
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:13:12.288 --> 01:13:13.470
[UNKNOWN]: But they let her back into the match.
01:13:13.490 --> 01:13:14.891
[UNKNOWN]: And she wrestled the whole match.
01:13:14.911 --> 01:13:15.071
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:13:15.091 --> 01:13:16.412
[UNKNOWN]: Because that was at the beginning of the match.
01:13:16.573 --> 01:13:16.733
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:13:17.073 --> 01:13:18.174
[UNKNOWN]: But then then that's spot.
01:13:20.036 --> 01:13:22.038
[UNKNOWN]: The spot towards the end with Lola and JC.
01:13:23.346 --> 01:13:25.548
[UNKNOWN]: They have the jacies on the ladder.
01:13:25.568 --> 01:13:27.029
[UNKNOWN]: She's reaching up for the championship.
01:13:27.129 --> 01:13:29.111
[UNKNOWN]: Lowly gets on her back and she sinks in a choke.
01:13:29.611 --> 01:13:31.052
[UNKNOWN]: Down below is a ladder bridge.
01:13:32.093 --> 01:13:34.715
[UNKNOWN]: As Jacy fades, she falls backwards.
01:13:34.775 --> 01:13:40.079
[UNKNOWN]: They both fall onto the ladder bridge, which on its own is like a brutal spot, right?
01:13:40.160 --> 01:13:41.681
[UNKNOWN]: That landing can't feel too good.
01:13:42.862 --> 01:13:48.987
[UNKNOWN]: But they bounce and the momentum sends the ladder sliding out of the ring with them on top of it.
01:13:50.068 --> 01:13:52.449
[UNKNOWN]: And the both of them, they fall out of the ring.
01:13:53.265 --> 01:13:55.886
[UNKNOWN]: They don't, they're not able to grab onto anything.
01:13:56.006 --> 01:14:00.929
[UNKNOWN]: Lola, I think Lola hit every fucking step on the ladder, I just swayed back like a cartoon.
01:14:00.949 --> 01:14:02.450
[UNKNOWN]: And that wasn't even the worst of the two.
01:14:02.490 --> 01:14:04.091
[UNKNOWN]: I thought Jaycey took the worst of the two.
01:14:04.571 --> 01:14:07.833
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but somehow if you watch it back, they landed perfectly.
01:14:08.459 --> 01:14:13.584
[UNKNOWN]: where they didn't get hurt, but it's a miracle that at least one of them didn't get seriously injured.
01:14:13.884 --> 01:14:17.487
[UNKNOWN]: So visually, in a way, it kind of looked cool, but it was scary as hell.
01:14:17.507 --> 01:14:25.154
[UNKNOWN]: Like I've never seen a spot like that before, and hopefully I never have to see that again, because again, it was very, very dangerous, and I'm sure that's not what they intended to do there.
01:14:25.734 --> 01:14:28.917
[UNKNOWN]: But that to be is just a great kind of highlights the entire match in many ways.
01:14:29.057 --> 01:14:30.839
[UNKNOWN]: And we had a few spots that were like,
01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:40.464
[UNKNOWN]: And then you compound that with the finish, which I wasn't a fan of, and it's like, yeah, this was not this was not my favorite women's ladder match, not even close.
01:14:41.745 --> 01:14:52.630
[UNKNOWN]: So I just, when it was over, look, I always respect the effort they put in, you know, and it can't be easy to go in there and climb these ladders and fall on them and a lot of these women, they're not that big, you know, some of these women are tiny.
01:14:53.478 --> 01:14:57.699
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's why Roxanne was using it like the fucking steplatter sometime this she was using in there.
01:14:58.180 --> 01:15:11.724
[UNKNOWN]: These are not like big 275 pound guys that it's still sucks when they take these bumps and land on the ladder, but it's different than our Roxanne Perez or her soul Rooka being slammed onto a fucking ladder.
01:15:12.665 --> 01:15:21.848
[UNKNOWN]: So of course, I have the utmost respect for them going in there and putting their bodies through that, but I just thought like you said, the layout of the match, it was like a collection of
01:15:23.151 --> 01:15:26.220
[UNKNOWN]: Let's come up with just the wildest spots that we can do.
01:15:27.403 --> 01:15:33.328
[UNKNOWN]: And there's no real forethought given to what they mean or building to a specific moment.
01:15:33.408 --> 01:15:34.609
[UNKNOWN]: It's a collection of spots.
01:15:34.669 --> 01:15:37.031
[UNKNOWN]: But that's really what all these latter matches have turned into.
01:15:37.071 --> 01:15:38.192
[UNKNOWN]: It's no different with the men.
01:15:38.873 --> 01:15:39.053
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:15:39.213 --> 01:15:41.095
[UNKNOWN]: Is there any real story in the men's?
01:15:41.435 --> 01:15:42.095
[UNKNOWN]: The latter matches.
01:15:42.115 --> 01:15:47.620
[UNKNOWN]: But at least they took the, at least they took the time building up the ladder and going up the ladder and building up to a big spot.
01:15:47.660 --> 01:15:49.382
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't go 90 seconds at the match.
01:15:49.402 --> 01:15:50.422
[UNKNOWN]: Dive it off the ladder.
01:15:50.903 --> 01:15:52.684
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, the story was with Javan.
01:15:52.704 --> 01:15:52.884
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:15:52.904 --> 01:15:54.346
[UNKNOWN]: And being taken out and coming back.
01:15:54.386 --> 01:15:55.166
[UNKNOWN]: That was the story.
01:15:56.047 --> 01:15:57.510
[UNKNOWN]: It's not that much different with the men.
01:15:57.870 --> 01:16:01.196
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's a collection of spots every single year that goes by.
01:16:01.637 --> 01:16:05.444
[UNKNOWN]: You're challenged to try to come up with stuff that has never been done before.
01:16:05.985 --> 01:16:08.950
[UNKNOWN]: And it's damn near impossible because everything's been done.
01:16:09.939 --> 01:16:17.724
[UNKNOWN]: So every year you now have the challenge of like, okay, this is 20 years, 21 years now of doing money in the bank matches and now we have two of them every year.
01:16:18.405 --> 01:16:20.066
[UNKNOWN]: And so we got to try something different.
01:16:20.086 --> 01:16:23.969
[UNKNOWN]: We got to climb a little bit higher, do something a little bit crazier.
01:16:24.789 --> 01:16:28.832
[UNKNOWN]: And this is in any company because we've just seen everything in these ladder matches.
01:16:29.933 --> 01:16:32.774
[UNKNOWN]: And that sort of feels like it's a collection of just crazy spots.
01:16:33.735 --> 01:16:41.838
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes it works and then sometimes it's just the fucking mess and it's like my god like this this was this was not good This was bad.
01:16:41.858 --> 01:16:44.299
[UNKNOWN]: This was terrible and VP in your opinion.
01:16:44.859 --> 01:17:02.046
[UNKNOWN]: I went with Sol Ruka I love that jump off the second turn bug with the lash legend through the lateral thought that was yeah Yeah, yeah, the frog splash onto the lateral bridge and then she had a soul snatch from a falatter too So yeah, I would say MVP and the women's was Sol Ruka MVP and the men's out that was brownbreaker
01:17:04.258 --> 01:17:05.619
[UNKNOWN]: Just a little side note here.
01:17:05.939 --> 01:17:12.023
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to jump all over the place, but I have to be that we're talking about the ladies and we talked about live Morgan and Chelsea Green.
01:17:12.723 --> 01:17:16.706
[UNKNOWN]: I found it so humorous that live in her promo last night.
01:17:17.786 --> 01:17:29.109
[UNKNOWN]: on four different occasions, and I'm sure she's speaking, you know, in the way WWE genuinely thinks about Chelsea being the women's champion because I mean, they look at her as a place older champion regardless.
01:17:29.529 --> 01:17:33.310
[UNKNOWN]: I want to read to you live Morgan's promo here because Chelsea wants to go shake lives hand.
01:17:34.471 --> 01:17:41.393
[UNKNOWN]: And Liv says, Chelsea, I'm not going to shake your pathetic little hand because handshakes are for equals.
01:17:42.073 --> 01:17:44.093
[UNKNOWN]: And you and I, we are not equal.
01:17:44.754 --> 01:17:44.934
[UNKNOWN]: That's
01:17:46.521 --> 01:17:48.962
[UNKNOWN]: No, no Chelsea, you're not even a fighting champion.
01:17:49.563 --> 01:17:50.403
[UNKNOWN]: That's strike number two.
01:17:51.004 --> 01:17:52.485
[UNKNOWN]: You're not even a real champion.
01:17:52.965 --> 01:17:54.786
[UNKNOWN]: But boy, you are certainly looking at one.
01:17:54.826 --> 01:17:55.766
[UNKNOWN]: That's strike number three.
01:17:56.407 --> 01:18:06.553
[UNKNOWN]: And then she goes on to say, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just a little bit hard for me to take you seriously right now because the only thing remotely threatening about you was your friend, Tiffany Shratt and becoming Miss Money in the bank.
01:18:06.893 --> 01:18:09.795
[UNKNOWN]: She went and got herself injured, didn't she all too bad?
01:18:10.055 --> 01:18:15.178
[UNKNOWN]: So I guess I really don't have much to worry about from a placeholder champion for strike four.
01:18:15.678 --> 01:18:19.048
[UNKNOWN]: So, G-Man, I-F. What does WWE think about Chelsea Greta?
01:18:19.068 --> 01:18:20.733
[UNKNOWN]: I think Liv Morgan pretty much laid it out.
01:18:20.773 --> 01:18:21.134
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, yeah.
01:18:23.879 --> 01:18:24.940
[UNKNOWN]: I wrote Robo J.D.
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:31.484
[UNKNOWN]: there, um, you said, you said like a robot and I, I don't know.
01:18:31.524 --> 01:18:35.726
[UNKNOWN]: It's, I don't maybe, maybe on your own right at the tail end, right at the tail end there.
01:18:35.746 --> 01:18:37.107
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I'm the only one who heard that.
01:18:37.727 --> 01:18:39.689
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, I mean, she's a heal.
01:18:40.229 --> 01:18:42.971
[UNKNOWN]: And if Chelsea actually goes in there and beats her, then it's, then it's fine.
01:18:43.571 --> 01:18:50.915
[UNKNOWN]: If she goes in there and loses improves that everything live said was was, was, was true, like Triple H did with Booker T at that one WrestleMania, then that's very bad.
01:18:52.076 --> 01:18:55.558
[UNKNOWN]: So this is one of those situations where it really does come down to who wins and who loses.
01:18:56.058 --> 01:19:01.521
[UNKNOWN]: If Liv talk shit between now and crown jewel, you're not deserving you're a paper champion, this and that, but then she loses.
01:19:02.261 --> 01:19:03.802
[UNKNOWN]: Which I think she very well might.
01:19:04.423 --> 01:19:09.605
[UNKNOWN]: You know, unless they just want to give her two years in a row, she's going to win the crown jewel title.
01:19:09.725 --> 01:19:14.228
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, maybe who knows how much influence the Saudi government has on the winners and losers.
01:19:16.337 --> 01:19:22.056
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let's assume that Chelsea would get the win, then it's all good, you know, because she's a heel saying heel things.
01:19:23.458 --> 01:19:28.440
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that was the women side of things for the money in the Bank Tiffany's rat and his miss money and the bank will see what happens on Friday.
01:19:28.460 --> 01:19:36.944
[UNKNOWN]: If she does anything with Chelsea in that briefcase or if she comes out with something that will be shield on www.shop.com, LA Night Roman Reigns.
01:19:36.964 --> 01:19:41.707
[UNKNOWN]: We won't spend too much time on this because the outcome was obviously Roman Reigns.
01:19:41.907 --> 01:19:43.027
[UNKNOWN]: He retained the championship.
01:19:43.467 --> 01:19:45.348
[UNKNOWN]: No nine four six inclusion here.
01:19:45.388 --> 01:19:47.069
[UNKNOWN]: They did not factor into the outcome.
01:19:47.749 --> 01:19:50.751
[UNKNOWN]: They did show up at the end of the match though and we got a big brawl with
01:19:53.472 --> 01:19:59.776
[UNKNOWN]: But as far as the matches and I know a lot of people wanted L.A. night to win this and a lot of people had the microscope out on L.A. night.
01:20:00.496 --> 01:20:07.260
[UNKNOWN]: Triple H even said at the end of the show with Jackie Redmond or or Kathy Kelly I believe it was he said that L.A. night.
01:20:07.280 --> 01:20:10.442
[UNKNOWN]: This is the second time he said this L.A. night one more than he lost.
01:20:10.662 --> 01:20:13.944
[UNKNOWN]: He said this same thing after he wrestled Roman Reigns three years ago in Saudi Arabia.
01:20:14.504 --> 01:20:16.025
[UNKNOWN]: And we're still right back to where we were.
01:20:16.105 --> 01:20:17.566
[UNKNOWN]: No progression all for L.A. night.
01:20:17.606 --> 01:20:18.846
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't really believe him at all.
01:20:19.667 --> 01:20:21.188
[UNKNOWN]: But at the end of the day,
01:20:22.358 --> 01:20:27.260
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what WWE has planned for LA night, but he should be very proud of himself.
01:20:27.340 --> 01:20:29.240
[UNKNOWN]: The fan base should be very proud of him.
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:31.461
[UNKNOWN]: He has nothing to be ashamed about.
01:20:32.061 --> 01:20:34.602
[UNKNOWN]: He wrestled the best match of his entire life.
01:20:35.182 --> 01:20:36.903
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing more that he could do.
01:20:36.943 --> 01:20:38.283
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing more he could say.
01:20:38.303 --> 01:20:39.964
[UNKNOWN]: And there's nothing more he could show these people.
01:20:39.984 --> 01:20:41.244
[UNKNOWN]: He wrestled like a World Champion.
01:20:41.264 --> 01:20:46.226
[UNKNOWN]: He proved that he is very capable and more deserving now than ever before.
01:20:46.286 --> 01:20:47.206
[UNKNOWN]: Two-be a World Champion.
01:20:47.226 --> 01:20:47.866
[UNKNOWN]: That's some point.
01:20:47.886 --> 01:20:49.967
[UNKNOWN]: Whether it comes against Roman Reigns or someone else.
01:20:50.647 --> 01:20:54.630
[UNKNOWN]: He proved to everybody that he certainly belongs at the top of that car in the main event scene.
01:20:55.231 --> 01:20:57.192
[UNKNOWN]: But at the end of the day, he wasn't beaten by Roman.
01:20:57.673 --> 01:21:00.555
[UNKNOWN]: He wasn't beaten by something that happened in the match.
01:21:00.575 --> 01:21:01.676
[UNKNOWN]: That just didn't go his way.
01:21:02.337 --> 01:21:03.337
[UNKNOWN]: He got beaten by politics.
01:21:03.818 --> 01:21:10.603
[UNKNOWN]: And at the end of the day, he has no body to blame at all for this, but the way WWE management just sees things currently in the landscape.
01:21:10.643 --> 01:21:12.745
[UNKNOWN]: He had nothing else going on for him.
01:21:12.925 --> 01:21:13.946
[UNKNOWN]: He should be very proud of himself.
01:21:15.227 --> 01:21:18.430
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was the best match of his career in WWE at least.
01:21:20.186 --> 01:21:20.366
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:21:21.107 --> 01:21:25.850
[UNKNOWN]: I would say so I would be match up against the only match Roman hat better was against punk.
01:21:25.870 --> 01:21:27.651
[UNKNOWN]: This was his second best match earlier in my opinion.
01:21:28.291 --> 01:21:29.472
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm talking about LA night.
01:21:29.592 --> 01:21:30.352
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
01:21:30.392 --> 01:21:30.873
[UNKNOWN]: I agree with you.
01:21:30.893 --> 01:21:31.093
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:21:31.533 --> 01:21:31.813
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:21:31.953 --> 01:21:34.675
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not that say this is the best match of Roman Reigns' career.
01:21:34.715 --> 01:21:34.835
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:21:36.056 --> 01:21:40.418
[UNKNOWN]: This is what I would consider the third truly great match that Roman has had this year.
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:42.740
[UNKNOWN]: Punk, Penta, and now LA night.
01:21:44.101 --> 01:21:45.542
[UNKNOWN]: Some people might say Seth Rollins.
01:21:45.562 --> 01:21:48.884
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was an excellent match too, but the crowd heat for this.
01:21:49.967 --> 01:21:56.229
[UNKNOWN]: Like from the moment the ringing shows were done and the bell rang to this felt like it felt like a fucking WrestleMania main event.
01:21:56.710 --> 01:22:06.213
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it made them opening the show with this, even though it was predictable, it actually kind of went away after we saw the crowd reaction, it was like, okay, now I see why they open the show with us.
01:22:06.533 --> 01:22:14.936
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I bet you, but the look, the minute they announced that this was opening the show, not that I thought Roman was losing, but that told you right there what the outcome of the match was going to be.
01:22:14.996 --> 01:22:15.156
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:22:15.396 --> 01:22:18.938
[UNKNOWN]: Roman Reigns was not going to lose the world heavyweight championship in the opening match of this show.
01:22:19.730 --> 01:22:29.575
[UNKNOWN]: So that took away maybe some of the drama, again, I wasn't really expecting the outcome to be any different, but man, these people, they believe they were hanging on to every near fall.
01:22:29.675 --> 01:22:39.321
[UNKNOWN]: They allowed L.A. night to kick out of a spear and I lost track of how many fucking Superman punches this guy through my god with the Superman punches man.
01:22:39.381 --> 01:22:39.781
[UNKNOWN]: Come on.
01:22:39.881 --> 01:22:40.061
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:22:40.881 --> 01:22:41.682
[UNKNOWN]: So many of them.
01:22:41.982 --> 01:22:45.704
[UNKNOWN]: And then there were some people who were harping on the the botched power bomb spot.
01:22:49.464 --> 01:22:53.907
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the he almost got dropped on his head and he can't be trusted in that spot.
01:22:53.967 --> 01:22:55.388
[UNKNOWN]: Roman Romans the top guy.
01:22:55.408 --> 01:22:56.269
[UNKNOWN]: You can't be doing that.
01:22:57.209 --> 01:22:59.431
[UNKNOWN]: To me, it was like he recovered well.
01:22:59.471 --> 01:23:01.832
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, he couldn't get him up the first time.
01:23:01.852 --> 01:23:06.996
[UNKNOWN]: So he reset and then he got him up and it was like a struggle and he got him up and then he put him to the table.
01:23:07.716 --> 01:23:14.320
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like elimination chamber where he slipped on the top rope when he went for his elbow or, you know, he does that leap to the top rope
01:23:16.410 --> 01:23:19.911
[UNKNOWN]: eight times at a 10, he'll do it five, but then sometimes he won't quite make it.
01:23:20.271 --> 01:23:25.732
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there have been moments like that in LA night matches and people who, you know, a botch night.
01:23:26.393 --> 01:23:28.373
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I added a dose of realism to the match.
01:23:28.393 --> 01:23:30.654
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was like 23 minutes in at that point.
01:23:30.674 --> 01:23:32.434
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, yeah, at that point you're blowing up.
01:23:32.454 --> 01:23:35.055
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to be lifting the 200 to 60 pound guy in the air with ease.
01:23:35.795 --> 01:23:45.339
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't think there was a moment there where I thought maybe he was going to turn it into a styles clash on the floor when he was like holding him upside down, but then he set him back down and put him to the table.
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:49.261
[UNKNOWN]: And people who even blame him Roman, like Roman sandbag, Delay Knight, I'm like, I didn't even think that.
01:23:49.321 --> 01:23:51.802
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know why you guys are coming up with these narratives, man.
01:23:53.201 --> 01:23:54.341
[UNKNOWN]: It was it was it was it was fine.
01:23:54.861 --> 01:23:58.362
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but yeah, I mean, so they gave him a lot.
01:23:58.602 --> 01:24:17.627
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he got to kick out of some shit and it's not like it was very one sided or anything like that, but it's like, you look at this and is there ever going to be another situation with a crowd like that, where LA night is going to be able to pull it off and and win the big one, the answer is no.
01:24:19.021 --> 01:24:21.602
[UNKNOWN]: because I agree with what he was saying coming into the show.
01:24:22.343 --> 01:24:27.245
[UNKNOWN]: It is promo even on TV he said this, where it feels like now or never.
01:24:27.766 --> 01:24:30.407
[UNKNOWN]: Or if I don't do it here, this may be my last shot.
01:24:31.688 --> 01:24:34.269
[UNKNOWN]: And that's honestly like legitimately what it felt like.
01:24:34.449 --> 01:24:36.630
[UNKNOWN]: It felt like, okay, he failed three years ago.
01:24:36.690 --> 01:24:38.411
[UNKNOWN]: The bloodline got involved, he didn't win.
01:24:38.671 --> 01:24:42.313
[UNKNOWN]: Here we are three years later, due to three years of gone by.
01:24:42.894 --> 01:24:44.314
[UNKNOWN]: And it's the same old song and dance.
01:24:44.875 --> 01:24:46.896
[UNKNOWN]: He goes in there, he can't beat Roman Reigns.
01:24:48.002 --> 01:24:59.647
[UNKNOWN]: And I sent on my end, I said, you know, in an alternate timeline, or maybe in an alternate dimension, where LA night was not on the same roster with Roman Reigns, he would have made a great world heavyweight champion.
01:25:00.768 --> 01:25:09.892
[UNKNOWN]: But he's on the problem as he's on the roster with Roman Reigns, and both of these times, both these title matches came during a period where Roman was in the middle of an extended title run.
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:13.921
[UNKNOWN]: Right, the first time was that big, what ended up being 1,300 plus days?
01:25:14.562 --> 01:25:18.684
[UNKNOWN]: Now I have no doubt Roman is holding on to this until Oba, a WrestleMania.
01:25:19.724 --> 01:25:21.825
[UNKNOWN]: And that was to the detriment of L.A.N.I.
01:25:21.885 --> 01:25:25.727
[UNKNOWN]: he's just collateral damage in the overall title reign of Roman reigns.
01:25:26.887 --> 01:25:32.690
[UNKNOWN]: But in a different era or a different time period where Roman is not here, he would have been a great world champion.
01:25:33.330 --> 01:25:34.831
[UNKNOWN]: It sucks that that's not gonna happen.
01:25:35.431 --> 01:25:36.632
[UNKNOWN]: So I understand L.A.N.I.
01:25:36.652 --> 01:25:37.932
[UNKNOWN]: fans being very deflated
01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:49.346
[UNKNOWN]: He could still turn heel and end up in a good spot on the show and doesn't really change his paycheck and whatever he's making, I'm sure he's making a good living form itself.
01:25:49.406 --> 01:25:57.712
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like it's the end of the world, but again, in the context of the show, when you fail again, where does that character go?
01:25:58.173 --> 01:25:59.554
[UNKNOWN]: You are putting a ceiling on him.
01:26:00.645 --> 01:26:00.825
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:26:00.885 --> 01:26:01.526
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's the thing.
01:26:01.546 --> 01:26:03.547
[UNKNOWN]: You're putting a ceiling on like what he can achieve.
01:26:03.807 --> 01:26:05.548
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's really what bothers people.
01:26:06.268 --> 01:26:08.930
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like he's not making a good living.
01:26:08.990 --> 01:26:10.451
[UNKNOWN]: He's he's getting TV time.
01:26:10.471 --> 01:26:11.952
[UNKNOWN]: He's in a decent spot on the show.
01:26:11.972 --> 01:26:13.993
[UNKNOWN]: He's not like curtain jerking or anything like that.
01:26:14.593 --> 01:26:21.278
[UNKNOWN]: But there is something to be said about wrestling for the title, getting that moment, winning the championship, defending the championship.
01:26:22.078 --> 01:26:26.281
[UNKNOWN]: And I think he would have done great in that role even for a short period of time.
01:26:27.341 --> 01:26:32.505
[UNKNOWN]: WWE does not want anybody to touch Roman until he gets to Oba.
01:26:33.826 --> 01:26:43.612
[UNKNOWN]: They want him to be the unbeatable one, so that when Oba beats him, you assume Oba beats him, well, let's do the Cody thing and he needs more adversity.
01:26:43.632 --> 01:26:44.833
[UNKNOWN]: You know, wait another year.
01:26:44.873 --> 01:26:46.134
[UNKNOWN]: No, can you believe in another man?
01:26:51.932 --> 01:26:53.472
[UNKNOWN]: And they barely know what to do with Oprah.
01:26:53.632 --> 01:27:00.354
[UNKNOWN]: At least point, like, how would you even get another year out of Obafemi doing what until he wins the world title?
01:27:00.374 --> 01:27:03.035
[UNKNOWN]: Like the idea of that is is crazy to me.
01:27:03.055 --> 01:27:06.376
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just I'm putting it out there though because they've done it before who's to say they don't do it again.
01:27:06.416 --> 01:27:08.737
[UNKNOWN]: Well, well, we'll feed Goon through to Obafemi at that point.
01:27:09.077 --> 01:27:09.397
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:09.697 --> 01:27:12.718
[UNKNOWN]: So let's assume Oba does win the belt in in Riyadh next year.
01:27:14.010 --> 01:27:19.256
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they want Roman looking weak or dropping the belt.
01:27:19.416 --> 01:27:21.038
[UNKNOWN]: They want him to be uninterrupted.
01:27:21.398 --> 01:27:27.084
[UNKNOWN]: The dominant world champion, the only man who can get the job done, is the guy that they're about to annoy.
01:27:27.164 --> 01:27:30.588
[UNKNOWN]: And that person was never going to be nor is it ever going to be L.A. Night.
01:27:31.851 --> 01:27:39.560
[UNKNOWN]: and you saw a great example of that on Saturday because it felt like there was a real opportunity with 946 lurking, right?
01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:45.667
[UNKNOWN]: If they wanted Roman to lose, they could have given him a built-in excuse, and that 946 comes out after the match.
01:27:46.607 --> 01:27:49.730
[UNKNOWN]: Like they they finished the match and then they cut to these guys.
01:27:49.770 --> 01:27:50.151
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:27:50.231 --> 01:27:53.294
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand it like like looking at it visually.
01:27:53.354 --> 01:27:54.675
[UNKNOWN]: It looks fucking stupid.
01:27:55.055 --> 01:27:55.236
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:55.576 --> 01:27:56.217
[UNKNOWN]: Where are you?
01:27:56.597 --> 01:27:57.158
[UNKNOWN]: You're there.
01:27:57.798 --> 01:27:57.998
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:58.098 --> 01:27:59.540
[UNKNOWN]: The main guy is in the ring.
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:02.683
[UNKNOWN]: Do something you want to send the message.
01:28:02.703 --> 01:28:07.107
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of a better way to send the message, but now they just stood there and they were pointing.
01:28:07.948 --> 01:28:08.930
[UNKNOWN]: We're coming for you.
01:28:09.290 --> 01:28:11.373
[UNKNOWN]: Really, we had a great opportunity right here.
01:28:11.393 --> 01:28:13.596
[UNKNOWN]: He's points to his imaginary watch, like, all right.
01:28:14.477 --> 01:28:15.899
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to do something about it.
01:28:16.179 --> 01:28:17.421
[UNKNOWN]: Go to point to my swatch.
01:28:17.461 --> 01:28:18.823
[UNKNOWN]: Here we go.
01:28:18.883 --> 01:28:20.124
[UNKNOWN]: Your time is coming, baby.
01:28:21.066 --> 01:28:22.007
[UNKNOWN]: Only a matter of time.
01:28:23.539 --> 01:28:27.621
[UNKNOWN]: And then Roman, I mean, you guys know he's got a reduced schedule.
01:28:27.641 --> 01:28:32.003
[UNKNOWN]: He's not on the fucking show that this group is running wild all over his fucking family.
01:28:32.143 --> 01:28:38.626
[UNKNOWN]: GTA, like Muggings and fucking vehicular manslaughter at time set, Jacob Fattu.
01:28:38.806 --> 01:28:39.707
[UNKNOWN]: He's no one to be found.
01:28:40.467 --> 01:28:41.708
[UNKNOWN]: He's nowhere to be found.
01:28:41.868 --> 01:28:47.113
[UNKNOWN]: How stupid and lazy does it look that all of this is happening without Roman on the show.
01:28:47.213 --> 01:28:49.335
[UNKNOWN]: He's L.A. Knight's more important.
01:28:49.355 --> 01:28:50.696
[UNKNOWN]: The world titles more important.
01:28:50.716 --> 01:28:59.444
[UNKNOWN]: Then he flies the Hollywood literally on Sunday to go to the Street Fighter premiere and then on Monday fucking Carmella Hays is coming out and beating his family with crowbars and like, where are you?
01:29:00.245 --> 01:29:02.087
[UNKNOWN]: He's got, well, he's got a red carpet premiere.
01:29:02.107 --> 01:29:02.327
[UNKNOWN]: Come on.
01:29:02.347 --> 01:29:03.568
[UNKNOWN]: He's got a movie coming up.
01:29:03.988 --> 01:29:04.269
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:29:04.869 --> 01:29:05.710
[UNKNOWN]: Priorities, man.
01:29:05.930 --> 01:29:06.410
[UNKNOWN]: Priorities.
01:29:06.430 --> 01:29:06.971
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to be on.
01:29:07.211 --> 01:29:07.571
[UNKNOWN]: Don't worry.
01:29:07.612 --> 01:29:10.594
[UNKNOWN]: We're getting another Roman Reigns return on the show next week.
01:29:10.634 --> 01:29:10.854
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:10.974 --> 01:29:11.195
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:11.215 --> 01:29:11.315
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:11.335 --> 01:29:11.435
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:11.455 --> 01:29:11.575
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:11.595 --> 01:29:11.755
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:11.775 --> 01:29:12.496
[UNKNOWN]: What was that?
01:29:12.516 --> 01:29:13.076
[UNKNOWN]: 19 times now?
01:29:13.116 --> 01:29:13.857
[UNKNOWN]: 20 times though.
01:29:13.877 --> 01:29:15.699
[UNKNOWN]: Roman Roman returns on wrong.
01:29:15.719 --> 01:29:15.859
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:29:15.879 --> 01:29:18.901
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be very upset when he shows up next week.
01:29:18.921 --> 01:29:19.862
[UNKNOWN]: Like I'll be mad itself.
01:29:19.902 --> 01:29:22.805
[UNKNOWN]: Roman returns on but then it wasn't what the fuck is he retired from?
01:29:24.215 --> 01:29:30.120
[UNKNOWN]: Um, LA night was on the show last night on Monday, not raw yet a little 30 second thing with Solosio.
01:29:30.420 --> 01:29:31.340
[UNKNOWN]: He was very depressed.
01:29:31.501 --> 01:29:31.761
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:31.821 --> 01:29:33.722
[UNKNOWN]: And this is now the depression arc.
01:29:33.942 --> 01:29:34.263
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:34.283 --> 01:29:34.663
[UNKNOWN]: Like not.
01:29:34.923 --> 01:29:42.549
[UNKNOWN]: It's a tournament to said, Corbyn now, um, he had a I think with with Solo and and Solos like don't be ashamed.
01:29:42.589 --> 01:29:45.871
[UNKNOWN]: You took it to the to the tribal chief and blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:29:45.891 --> 01:29:48.193
[UNKNOWN]: But then LA night says, it's a bloodline, huh?
01:29:48.893 --> 01:29:51.916
[UNKNOWN]: And then Solos like, yeah, it's not what it looks like.
01:29:52.892 --> 01:30:02.319
[UNKNOWN]: So, Ellen, I'd give him this passive aggressive attitude and solo at the end of it says a weak good, and then Ellen at walks away says, yeah, it will good.
01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:03.880
[UNKNOWN]: What would you make of that little interaction?
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:08.163
[UNKNOWN]: Is there something now brewing with a heel Ellen out on the horizon that you get that from that segment?
01:30:08.183 --> 01:30:12.426
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, of course, he said that last, oh yeah, we're good.
01:30:12.446 --> 01:30:19.671
[UNKNOWN]: He said that with the bad as much sincerity is, a guy cheating on his wife saying, oh yeah, I was just out for a run.
01:30:20.473 --> 01:30:22.746
[UNKNOWN]: And I wasn't, you know, boinking the neighbor next door.
01:30:23.598 --> 01:30:52.668
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that sounded very sincere, and so like my idea, everyone had their idea for what they were hoping to see of money in the bank and my idea was, hey, I'd like to see L.A. Knight win the title, but I'd love to see him go heal, and even if it wasn't like he's part of 946, maybe he was loosely associated with them, but there was like, there was a potentially fun idea there I think with him going into war games, which by the way, he could still be on their side in war games.
01:30:53.508 --> 01:30:54.769
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, because the bloodline.
01:30:55.069 --> 01:30:55.910
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, LA night.
01:30:56.510 --> 01:30:59.753
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm not going to force it because they're going to need a fifth person.
01:30:59.793 --> 01:31:00.774
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be five on five.
01:31:01.414 --> 01:31:06.078
[UNKNOWN]: So there is still the possibility he could be loosely associated with them.
01:31:06.098 --> 01:31:07.779
[UNKNOWN]: It's like Brock last year, right?
01:31:07.799 --> 01:31:08.359
[UNKNOWN]: With the vision.
01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:10.641
[UNKNOWN]: Brock wasn't part of the vision, but he teamed with them.
01:31:11.082 --> 01:31:17.667
[UNKNOWN]: And we could still see that with LA night war games because that segment last night was there for I believe was there for a reason.
01:31:18.407 --> 01:31:22.350
[UNKNOWN]: So it seems to me like he's looking at this going, man, I lost to Roman.
01:31:23.170 --> 01:31:30.555
[UNKNOWN]: And now this guy who I thought was my friend did exactly what I thought he was going to do, which is why I didn't want to be friends with him in the first place and went right back to the fucking bloodlines.
01:31:30.575 --> 01:31:31.476
[UNKNOWN]: So you know what fuck you?
01:31:32.216 --> 01:31:33.757
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to team with these other guys.
01:31:34.318 --> 01:31:36.739
[UNKNOWN]: I can totally see that happening.
01:31:36.799 --> 01:31:38.961
[UNKNOWN]: But man, if that's what they end up doing,
01:31:40.606 --> 01:31:44.888
[UNKNOWN]: all the more reason why it wouldn't have been such a bad thing to put the belt on him for a little bit.
01:31:45.089 --> 01:31:45.269
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:31:45.829 --> 01:31:46.089
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
01:31:46.329 --> 01:31:53.033
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there was an idea there that you could have done that would have made sense, and I think could have been a lot of fun.
01:31:53.113 --> 01:31:56.535
[UNKNOWN]: And I do think going heal is the only option at this point.
01:31:56.875 --> 01:32:00.877
[UNKNOWN]: I do what is their left for him to do as a baby face on this show.
01:32:01.498 --> 01:32:04.259
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to keep him as a baby face, you could move him to SmackDown.
01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:06.861
[UNKNOWN]: So either move him to SmackDown or turn him heal.
01:32:07.661 --> 01:32:08.762
[UNKNOWN]: Those are your two options right now.
01:32:10.349 --> 01:32:12.232
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would rather him go heal.
01:32:12.272 --> 01:32:13.453
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a fresh look on him.
01:32:13.493 --> 01:32:19.201
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's got enough promo to make that work more than enough to make that work.
01:32:19.442 --> 01:32:23.828
[UNKNOWN]: If he goes to have a lot of people already at the top of the card on SmackDown.
01:32:23.868 --> 01:32:26.391
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if he goes over there, he's going to be he's going to get lost in the shuffle.
01:32:27.537 --> 01:32:29.659
[UNKNOWN]: I I don't know where they go with him.
01:32:30.100 --> 01:32:33.583
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I can't see him in 946 right now.
01:32:33.743 --> 01:32:36.806
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but well, with them.
01:32:36.866 --> 01:32:39.868
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mean in he's not going to be coming out with a fucking bandana.
01:32:39.948 --> 01:32:40.989
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:32:41.069 --> 01:32:44.312
[UNKNOWN]: And even though I would just even that would be a good television, though.
01:32:44.773 --> 01:32:48.436
[UNKNOWN]: You imagine him coming out with red locks and you know, a fucking bandana over his face.
01:32:48.596 --> 01:32:49.357
[UNKNOWN]: A girl saying.
01:32:50.017 --> 01:32:50.197
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:32:50.538 --> 01:32:50.718
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:32:51.774 --> 01:32:52.174
[UNKNOWN]: And grill.
01:32:53.075 --> 01:33:09.687
[UNKNOWN]: And grill, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
01:33:20.860 --> 01:33:26.125
[UNKNOWN]: They, you don't have a fifth guy, and then L.A. Knight steps up and says, I'll be the fifth guy.
01:33:26.665 --> 01:33:28.567
[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't mean he's in 946.
01:33:28.627 --> 01:33:35.654
[UNKNOWN]: It just means for the purposes of a war games match, I could see him stepping in there and saying, OK, you guys are the enemy.
01:33:35.714 --> 01:33:38.337
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
01:33:38.357 --> 01:33:39.358
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be with these guys.
01:33:40.290 --> 01:33:44.557
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then coming out of Survivor Series, I don't know what what they would do with him.
01:33:44.578 --> 01:33:49.366
[UNKNOWN]: He wouldn't, he wouldn't still be with 946, but I do think there's a very good chance.
01:33:49.386 --> 01:33:51.189
[UNKNOWN]: He ends up in that fifth spot, I think.
01:33:51.269 --> 01:33:51.970
[UNKNOWN]: As a possibility.
01:33:53.928 --> 01:34:17.469
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to jump too far ahead here, but as far as 946, and I will mention Carmella Hayes in a little bit, do you see another member joining 946 as a fifth true member of the group or do you think that's going to be safe specifically for LNI to flesh at workings, because I was talking with a buddy of mine, and we were going over a couple of names that could realistically fit in 946.
01:34:17.529 --> 01:34:18.510
[UNKNOWN]: One of them was Damien Priest.
01:34:18.730 --> 01:34:20.172
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that is going to
01:34:21.212 --> 01:34:23.174
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like that move even the lowest on raw.
01:34:23.234 --> 01:34:24.415
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like that spot form.
01:34:24.755 --> 01:34:26.276
[UNKNOWN]: I think Damien Priest is better off on his own.
01:34:26.596 --> 01:34:27.977
[UNKNOWN]: Another name was Cruz Montana.
01:34:28.397 --> 01:34:31.940
[UNKNOWN]: Now I don't like that because I think Cruz Montana should come up as a baby face.
01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:36.523
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's a lot there to ride and then maybe kind of in the future to turn him heel and maybe venture that way.
01:34:36.743 --> 01:34:39.246
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but it's getting a little crowded now.
01:34:40.347 --> 01:34:42.149
[UNKNOWN]: So you did the big thing with Jada.
01:34:42.489 --> 01:34:43.310
[UNKNOWN]: That was big angle.
01:34:43.390 --> 01:34:43.570
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:34:43.810 --> 01:34:46.313
[UNKNOWN]: You had the big angle last night with with Carmelo Hayes.
01:34:47.574 --> 01:34:54.481
[UNKNOWN]: And I kind of feel like the makeup of the group right now is kind of perfect the way it is where you have voices the leader.
01:34:55.582 --> 01:34:58.546
[UNKNOWN]: And we may get a world title match at some point on a bit.
01:34:58.586 --> 01:35:01.610
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe the rumble or something on a PLA between Roman and Royce.
01:35:02.090 --> 01:35:06.716
[UNKNOWN]: You've got mellow who can very well win the IC title.
01:35:06.736 --> 01:35:10.020
[UNKNOWN]: He's kind of the midcard or upper midcard war course of the group.
01:35:10.060 --> 01:35:12.383
[UNKNOWN]: You have a tag team and you have a female member.
01:35:13.257 --> 01:35:15.399
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that you want to overload it with members.
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:22.006
[UNKNOWN]: Like it's one thing to kind of have a loose association with an L.A. night for one show, but adding another member.
01:35:22.547 --> 01:35:26.891
[UNKNOWN]: Now you're getting to the point where you, I don't want this to literally be the NWO.
01:35:27.932 --> 01:35:30.835
[UNKNOWN]: So what am I chat last night, they were like, it's the ghetto NWO.
01:35:30.875 --> 01:35:31.877
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay.
01:35:32.964 --> 01:35:35.505
[UNKNOWN]: what we don't need that we don't need this to turn into that.
01:35:35.945 --> 01:35:58.593
[UNKNOWN]: So I feel like it might be overkill of they just keep adding more members like it's going to dilute it a little bit it's going to hurt people like mellow who will get less of a spotlight if you throw more people in there like cruise Montana let's just say cruise Montana he joins right well then at like I feel like that hurts someone like a carmel of a
01:35:59.433 --> 01:36:06.519
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's another, I agree with you for the most part, but there's another name that made my buddy, we're talking about my buddy Keith.
01:36:07.259 --> 01:36:10.382
[UNKNOWN]: And he brought up this name to me and I'm like, holy shit, I didn't think of that.
01:36:10.982 --> 01:36:14.765
[UNKNOWN]: And I know a lot of people are looking at this potentially in the future for big singles run.
01:36:14.885 --> 01:36:19.509
[UNKNOWN]: What if Montez Ford ends up being the fifth guy in in 946?
01:36:19.529 --> 01:36:20.790
[UNKNOWN]: How do you think that'll work out?
01:36:22.053 --> 01:36:23.294
[UNKNOWN]: And that'll be the start of his heel run.
01:36:23.574 --> 01:36:31.159
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I don't know if he'd be the leader, or if he'd be like that the head guy, but Montez as a single in in nine four six, you don't think that'll work out?
01:36:31.819 --> 01:36:31.999
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:35.461
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's a good fit.
01:36:37.042 --> 01:36:39.163
[UNKNOWN]: I'm all for trying a singles push with him.
01:36:40.424 --> 01:36:44.306
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like that would not be the best way to go about doing it.
01:36:46.120 --> 01:36:51.463
[UNKNOWN]: I actually think that Royce Keys right now is growing into the role of just fine.
01:36:51.483 --> 01:36:54.285
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you need to look to someone else to be the quote on quote leader.
01:36:55.186 --> 01:36:56.066
[UNKNOWN]: It all started with him.
01:36:56.086 --> 01:36:58.388
[UNKNOWN]: Remember how this whole story started?
01:36:58.428 --> 01:37:02.350
[UNKNOWN]: He got taken out by the bloodline, blood coming out of his mouth, and everything.
01:37:02.370 --> 01:37:05.632
[UNKNOWN]: So he went out to go get some backup of his own.
01:37:06.513 --> 01:37:09.895
[UNKNOWN]: So the whole story of 946 really started with him.
01:37:11.248 --> 01:37:15.573
[UNKNOWN]: And I think he's taken this role here in these last several weeks, and I think he's done really well.
01:37:15.793 --> 01:37:20.958
[UNKNOWN]: There was a report out today, I can't remember who was out with the report.
01:37:21.238 --> 01:37:30.247
[UNKNOWN]: It was false finish or somebody else, but saying that internally in WWE, they've been very happy and very impressed with the job he's done so far.
01:37:31.246 --> 01:37:38.628
[UNKNOWN]: and I don't really see the need to bring somebody else in that's going to diminish him in any way.
01:37:38.708 --> 01:37:40.108
[UNKNOWN]: I say you keep building voice.
01:37:40.928 --> 01:37:42.909
[UNKNOWN]: He's he's in a great position right now.
01:37:43.909 --> 01:37:45.489
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really know what to expect.
01:37:45.509 --> 01:37:54.311
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when powerhouse Hobbes came over to WWE, I'm like, okay, in a w he never really ascended higher than a certain level.
01:37:55.555 --> 01:37:56.915
[UNKNOWN]: But in WWE, I didn't know.
01:37:56.995 --> 01:38:03.217
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know what kind of pushes he can again, is he going to be a mid-card guy, they're going to build him up as a monster, and look at where he is now.
01:38:03.997 --> 01:38:11.339
[UNKNOWN]: He's leading the top, really now, he'll group in this company, and he's going to be feuding with Roman Reigns in his family for a while.
01:38:11.719 --> 01:38:12.319
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah?
01:38:12.459 --> 01:38:13.979
[UNKNOWN]: Pretty good spot for him to be in.
01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:16.040
[UNKNOWN]: This is the biggest spot of his career.
01:38:17.240 --> 01:38:17.900
[UNKNOWN]: And he's doing well.
01:38:18.740 --> 01:38:22.701
[UNKNOWN]: So why have somebody else come in to be the quote on quote leader?
01:38:23.061 --> 01:38:23.582
[UNKNOWN]: He's the leader.
01:38:23.962 --> 01:38:24.142
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:38:26.537 --> 01:38:28.138
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's, uh, it's getting better.
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:28.879
[UNKNOWN]: It's good.
01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:38.928
[UNKNOWN]: And, uh, like I said, I wasn't really all in on Royce Keys being the guy to lead this group, but like Jason said he certainly, uh, kind of leaning into it and kind of taking the reins there.
01:38:39.349 --> 01:38:40.029
[UNKNOWN]: No pun intended.
01:38:40.290 --> 01:38:41.130
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I actually like it.
01:38:41.531 --> 01:38:42.291
[UNKNOWN]: It's, it's working out.
01:38:43.530 --> 01:38:46.093
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, like I said, we'll talk about Carmella Hayes and just a little bit.
01:38:46.113 --> 01:38:47.835
[UNKNOWN]: Let's run through the rest of this show here on Saturday.
01:38:47.855 --> 01:38:49.597
[UNKNOWN]: Bronson Reed over Femi largely.
01:38:49.777 --> 01:38:52.860
[UNKNOWN]: It was, it was good by a match standpoint.
01:38:52.880 --> 01:38:57.766
[UNKNOWN]: I, I, I, I'm a big Bronson Reed guy as his Jason, uh, Oberfemi is a made man.
01:38:57.786 --> 01:39:04.333
[UNKNOWN]: And I understand what they're going for with Ober, but at a point.
01:39:05.709 --> 01:39:13.111
[UNKNOWN]: I always appreciate when WWE adds a little dose of realism and a little bit of like making somebody feel human.
01:39:13.871 --> 01:39:17.392
[UNKNOWN]: That's what attracts me to a guy, right?
01:39:18.292 --> 01:39:21.232
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel with what they did here at the end of the match.
01:39:22.113 --> 01:39:28.754
[UNKNOWN]: And I kind of get a sense of what people want here as far as all of these got to be strong and he's got to go into the Russell made.
01:39:28.774 --> 01:39:32.555
[UNKNOWN]: He's got to be on beaten and he's got to be the bestie could be against Roman.
01:39:33.135 --> 01:39:42.481
[UNKNOWN]: But Bronson reges, and he hadn't rustled the singles match in his February, where it tours his bicep, and he was out for six months, seven months, and that was for an elimination chamber qualifier.
01:39:42.561 --> 01:39:44.783
[UNKNOWN]: His first match back was here.
01:39:45.543 --> 01:39:52.488
[UNKNOWN]: I don't necessarily look at that as a good thing when you have your first match back and you're losing it in your first match in after six months, seven months.
01:39:53.108 --> 01:39:54.069
[UNKNOWN]: And the way that they did it,
01:39:54.827 --> 01:40:00.010
[UNKNOWN]: Bronsoried two brass knuckle shots and then a tsunami and Obathemy kicks out.
01:40:00.110 --> 01:40:00.790
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry man.
01:40:00.830 --> 01:40:01.691
[UNKNOWN]: I can't get behind that.
01:40:02.091 --> 01:40:03.192
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that just looks ridiculous.
01:40:03.512 --> 01:40:12.597
[UNKNOWN]: And the one thing that we don't need is this super scene-of-like fucking Roman Reigns Vince McMahon era of Roman Reigns kicking out of everything because he's the biggest baby face to the combat.
01:40:12.617 --> 01:40:13.277
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to see that.
01:40:13.817 --> 01:40:15.538
[UNKNOWN]: I already saw the Obahogan combat.
01:40:15.598 --> 01:40:16.639
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's ridiculous.
01:40:16.799 --> 01:40:17.880
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's not that bad.
01:40:17.900 --> 01:40:18.780
[UNKNOWN]: But give me a break.
01:40:18.860 --> 01:40:22.622
[UNKNOWN]: No, but that's what people are going to, it's like, a Becky Hogan and Mercedes Hogan.
01:40:25.971 --> 01:40:37.704
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, to me, it just makes all of his future matches less dramatic because what you know it's going to take some herkulean effort to beat this guy.
01:40:38.025 --> 01:40:45.053
[UNKNOWN]: If you kicked out of two punches to the jaw with brass nucks and a tsunami splash, which they said nobody else had ever kicked out of the tsunami.
01:40:46.487 --> 01:40:50.550
[UNKNOWN]: and he kicked out of it like it was nothing, hit the fall from grace, won the match.
01:40:51.170 --> 01:41:01.617
[UNKNOWN]: All right, well then out between the time that he gets to Roman Reigns and where we are now, how am I supposed to buy into any match that this guy is in, that the other person is gonna even have a shot.
01:41:01.737 --> 01:41:04.939
[UNKNOWN]: It took seven F-5s for Brock to beat him in Italy.
01:41:06.200 --> 01:41:10.143
[UNKNOWN]: So I do think that you want like a little bit of vulnerability is not a bad thing.
01:41:11.153 --> 01:41:21.100
[UNKNOWN]: and they could have introduced it here because I mean, maybe physically Bronson Reed is not as big as, as, oh, but he used to be, but he slimmed down he's in great shape, but he's still a big guy.
01:41:21.940 --> 01:41:28.585
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like there's any harm, especially if he has help from the judgment day or another judgment day, the vision.
01:41:28.905 --> 01:41:32.207
[UNKNOWN]: No difference, two factions I could do without.
01:41:33.028 --> 01:41:34.149
[UNKNOWN]: But there's no harm in it.
01:41:34.289 --> 01:41:40.053
[UNKNOWN]: And then especially if it pisses him off and he comes back and just gets his revenge and fucking beats the shit out of this guy.
01:41:40.963 --> 01:41:43.565
[UNKNOWN]: I almost feel like they're going to try to go to this again for Crown Jewel.
01:41:44.506 --> 01:41:47.088
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we didn't see Bronson read on the show last night at all.
01:41:47.669 --> 01:42:01.200
[UNKNOWN]: We could very well see him next week and he could take Paul Hayman's advice and hit Sonami after Sonami after Sonami and we don't see Ober again until right before Crown Jewel and they just run it back but you know exactly what's going to happen though if they run it back again.
01:42:01.220 --> 01:42:02.140
[UNKNOWN]: He's just going to beat him again.
01:42:02.200 --> 01:42:07.405
[UNKNOWN]: Which begs the question why didn't they give the wind to Bronson read here for all would he get the wind back if that's the case at Crown Jewel?
01:42:07.994 --> 01:42:36.001
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and again, I'm not I don't know that they're going to run it back again in a way there's no need for them to run it back again because you beat them clean one two three, but I'm just saying if if they are going to do this again, all the more reason why there wouldn't have been any harm in having Bronson read with a little bit of help go over and beat Oberthemmy book to the point I made earlier, I think Roman and Ober art to be protected at all costs so that when they clash next year.
01:42:36.941 --> 01:42:48.086
[UNKNOWN]: Both of them have been unbeatable, both of them have been untouchable, and now we get the big battle that, you know, they've been building up for all this time for the World Championship or WrestleMania.
01:42:48.106 --> 01:42:50.207
[UNKNOWN]: I think in their mind, that's probably what they're thinking.
01:42:50.227 --> 01:42:51.328
[UNKNOWN]: We just got to protect them.
01:42:52.148 --> 01:42:52.929
[UNKNOWN]: at all costs.
01:42:53.390 --> 01:42:57.135
[UNKNOWN]: What was at that punk said in the interview with the Colt Cabana all those years ago, right?
01:42:57.555 --> 01:42:59.858
[UNKNOWN]: He was told about Roman.
01:43:00.619 --> 01:43:01.660
[UNKNOWN]: Make Roman look strong.
01:43:01.700 --> 01:43:02.341
[UNKNOWN]: Is that what it was?
01:43:02.441 --> 01:43:02.642
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:43:03.222 --> 01:43:04.924
[UNKNOWN]: Well, now we're in the phase of you got it.
01:43:04.985 --> 01:43:07.067
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I guess we're still making Roman look strong, but
01:43:07.828 --> 01:43:08.848
[UNKNOWN]: make Obo look strong.
01:43:09.528 --> 01:43:15.150
[UNKNOWN]: It's all within eye towards building him to be the guy to take the torch and run with it.
01:43:16.110 --> 01:43:21.071
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I just hope people like Bronton Reed don't get, you know, lost in the process.
01:43:21.231 --> 01:43:26.253
[UNKNOWN]: Like it shouldn't be lost on anybody that to me, Bronton Reed could be a world champion himself one day.
01:43:26.533 --> 01:43:26.753
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:43:27.533 --> 01:43:28.233
[UNKNOWN]: He's very good.
01:43:29.913 --> 01:43:35.155
[UNKNOWN]: So if it was just a one and done with Obo, that's unfortunate, but then okay, where do you go with Obo?
01:43:35.175 --> 01:43:36.235
[UNKNOWN]: And like who's next for Obo?
01:43:37.833 --> 01:43:39.475
[UNKNOWN]: like going back to him and brown breaker.
01:43:41.298 --> 01:43:43.020
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, never really resolved that.
01:43:43.380 --> 01:43:52.673
[UNKNOWN]: There was a report today again from the guys over at self made saying that talent is very hesitant on working with Obo because they know exactly what it means for them.
01:43:53.452 --> 01:43:54.693
[UNKNOWN]: That's the point we're at right now.
01:43:54.713 --> 01:43:57.494
[UNKNOWN]: And I say, but hey, yeah, well, we just talked about.
01:43:57.634 --> 01:43:58.634
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can believe that.
01:43:58.954 --> 01:44:02.936
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I think in that report, they said it's not anything personal against him.
01:44:03.016 --> 01:44:04.996
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's on safe for anything like that.
01:44:05.036 --> 01:44:07.797
[UNKNOWN]: It's just that they could see what you and I see.
01:44:07.817 --> 01:44:10.358
[UNKNOWN]: And what all the fans see, yeah, he's being protected.
01:44:11.599 --> 01:44:13.700
[UNKNOWN]: And he's this unstoppable force.
01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:17.461
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're in the ring with him before the bell even rings, you already know how it's going to end.
01:44:18.441 --> 01:44:20.482
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I'm sure there are people on the roster who will like,
01:44:23.055 --> 01:44:26.518
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and maybe they like, oh, but like, it's not so good for them.
01:44:26.918 --> 01:44:27.599
[UNKNOWN]: I could believe that.
01:44:28.559 --> 01:44:30.561
[UNKNOWN]: I could believe that was the case with people like Goldberg.
01:44:30.581 --> 01:44:32.562
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can go down in the list of wrestling history.
01:44:32.602 --> 01:44:37.886
[UNKNOWN]: Anybody who got hot and was getting the big push from certain other people in the roster who were like, fuck, I don't want to.
01:44:38.967 --> 01:44:41.449
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be in the ring with them if I'm just going to get fed to them.
01:44:41.469 --> 01:44:42.570
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:44:42.630 --> 01:44:42.950
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
01:44:42.970 --> 01:44:45.312
[UNKNOWN]: That's been wrestling for, for that case.
01:44:45.772 --> 01:44:49.736
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when the guy who gets hot and is getting the big push and getting the rocket strap to him,
01:44:51.012 --> 01:44:56.516
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, back in the day, if you were to work with Hogan, I mean, that was a coveted spot because you knew you were going to make more money.
01:44:57.617 --> 01:45:01.959
[UNKNOWN]: Today, though, I feel like it's very different where you're going to make the same amount of money no matter what, probably.
01:45:02.120 --> 01:45:09.524
[UNKNOWN]: And so is it good for you and your career and your character to go in there and get slaughtered by this guy?
01:45:10.565 --> 01:45:14.928
[UNKNOWN]: And then it's just sort of on to the next, I don't know if I would want to be that guy.
01:45:15.408 --> 01:45:19.031
[UNKNOWN]: chat saying Ricky Saints and Tony D'Angelo beat Obofemi.
01:45:19.251 --> 01:45:20.752
[UNKNOWN]: WWE does not want you to know that.
01:45:22.573 --> 01:45:24.034
[UNKNOWN]: We know that, but they don't want you to know that.
01:45:24.294 --> 01:45:28.497
[UNKNOWN]: You think they want you to remember that Ricky Saints beat him with like three tornado DD.
01:45:28.517 --> 01:45:28.717
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:45:28.938 --> 01:45:29.698
[UNKNOWN]: That's not gonna happen.
01:45:30.038 --> 01:45:30.699
[UNKNOWN]: It never happened.
01:45:30.759 --> 01:45:32.740
[UNKNOWN]: It's like men in black with the of the normalizer.
01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:33.361
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't happen.
01:45:34.181 --> 01:45:35.022
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't see anything.
01:45:35.735 --> 01:45:52.138
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, Matt was good, the Oberwinds, the promo last night on Raw where Paul Hayman came in and he explained what he had to to Oberfemi and Oberfemi ended the promo by saying, he stopped them and said, I'm an Oberfemi guy.
01:45:53.378 --> 01:46:07.212
[UNKNOWN]: What do you make of that with the Paul Hamon angle here because for weeks we've seen nothing but Paul Hamon just kind of losing his mind over losing his beast and he's watching the TV all by his lonesome and we don't know where he's going to go.
01:46:07.332 --> 01:46:16.281
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like at one point prom break was trying to prove to Paul Hamon that he is the future and that he's going to prove to Paul Hamon by any costs by any means that he's going to do what he has to do to beat Oberfemi.
01:46:17.062 --> 01:46:23.548
[UNKNOWN]: But after all, but told him that Jason, do you think that Paul Hamon now is going to be placed in a position to maybe get back at Oba and take down Oba?
01:46:23.568 --> 01:46:28.492
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe a lot himself with the Bronson Reed or a Brombraker or maybe he's find themselves back in the vision.
01:46:28.512 --> 01:46:29.093
[UNKNOWN]: What'd you make of that?
01:46:30.914 --> 01:46:34.417
[UNKNOWN]: Or, or, uh, back in Romans, good graces and time for wrestle, many of them.
01:46:34.437 --> 01:46:35.318
[UNKNOWN]: Man, man, Roman.
01:46:35.358 --> 01:46:37.640
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, in Paul Hamon, I would not be surprised.
01:46:38.761 --> 01:46:40.783
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, this has to be leading somewhere.
01:46:40.823 --> 01:46:43.745
[UNKNOWN]: Otherwise, what the hell is the point of all these segments?
01:46:46.187 --> 01:46:50.637
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I'm in back with, you know, the vision, Yongeg snore.
01:46:52.001 --> 01:46:53.143
[UNKNOWN]: Does that really excite you?
01:46:53.303 --> 01:46:54.326
[UNKNOWN]: No, let me be honest.
01:46:54.546 --> 01:46:54.687
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:46:55.428 --> 01:46:55.909
[UNKNOWN]: Who cares?
01:46:57.212 --> 01:46:59.954
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was a good look the one thing I have to say about these oba promos.
01:46:59.994 --> 01:47:00.654
[UNKNOWN]: He's very good.
01:47:00.814 --> 01:47:01.334
[UNKNOWN]: He is very good.
01:47:01.995 --> 01:47:08.859
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe before this show, you know, before money in the bank that last promo he cut on bronze and read where he was like, how was the line?
01:47:08.879 --> 01:47:14.022
[UNKNOWN]: It was like, um, they may, they may own this, but I'm going to own your ass or whatever was.
01:47:14.822 --> 01:47:19.905
[UNKNOWN]: And even the promo last night where it's like, you know, Brock Lesnar was a Paul Hayman guy, Roman Reigns.
01:47:20.185 --> 01:47:21.466
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not anything like him.
01:47:21.906 --> 01:47:22.106
[UNKNOWN]: Those
01:47:25.862 --> 01:47:28.704
[UNKNOWN]: So he's very good at delivering these, these promos.
01:47:31.647 --> 01:47:37.652
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe Hayman is going to win list the services of certain people to try to humble him and take him out.
01:47:38.493 --> 01:47:48.942
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but it's obviously leading to Hayman against Oba in some way, which is better than putting Hayman with him because he doesn't need Hayman.
01:47:50.070 --> 01:47:57.896
[UNKNOWN]: I just, I don't know who those people are going to be for him to just go back to the vision and be with Reed and, and, and, and, and, Bron Braker, I don't know.
01:47:58.056 --> 01:47:58.677
[UNKNOWN]: It boars me.
01:47:59.618 --> 01:48:00.438
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't excite me.
01:48:00.799 --> 01:48:01.559
[UNKNOWN]: Now Paul, him is who.
01:48:01.599 --> 01:48:02.280
[UNKNOWN]: And they're done that.
01:48:02.300 --> 01:48:02.500
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.242
[UNKNOWN]: Paul, him is way too valuable to put him in a nothing group like that.
01:48:05.362 --> 01:48:05.883
[UNKNOWN]: I, I don't know.
01:48:06.663 --> 01:48:11.928
[UNKNOWN]: He's probably going to attach himself to the next big name and whoever that may be against all of a family.
01:48:13.089 --> 01:48:17.512
[UNKNOWN]: It would have been, it seems to me that it would have been wiser to take someone like a big
01:48:19.086 --> 01:48:21.149
[UNKNOWN]: who doesn't really seem to be doing anything right now.
01:48:21.709 --> 01:48:25.254
[UNKNOWN]: On Mondays, except losing the last three matches that he's been in.
01:48:26.195 --> 01:48:27.517
[UNKNOWN]: And he's a big guy, right?
01:48:27.998 --> 01:48:34.586
[UNKNOWN]: Why not build him up and feed him to Obofemi, but build him up enough where you could have gotten maybe like a PLE match out of it.
01:48:34.727 --> 01:48:34.927
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:48:36.065 --> 01:48:38.106
[UNKNOWN]: At least then he would have had some sense of direction.
01:48:38.686 --> 01:48:41.807
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, ultimately he would have been fed to Obo, of course.
01:48:41.867 --> 01:48:54.871
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know, like I was watching Raw last night and I didn't freak out last week the way some people did when he lost to Dragon League because I thought it was a really good match and it was kind of a flukey finish and it's like, all right, second loss, right, not a big deal.
01:48:56.031 --> 01:48:58.572
[UNKNOWN]: And then last night he goes in there when he loses to Ray Mysterio.
01:48:59.612 --> 01:49:01.613
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay, on a victory roll.
01:49:03.098 --> 01:49:10.383
[UNKNOWN]: after his partner helped cheat and interfered to help him what a great baby face he is.
01:49:10.703 --> 01:49:13.485
[UNKNOWN]: It took Dragon League getting involved to help Ramesh stereo win this match.
01:49:13.905 --> 01:49:18.608
[UNKNOWN]: But like, how does, look, what is the point of having 50 year old Ramesh stereo?
01:49:18.628 --> 01:49:19.709
[UNKNOWN]: We got to give Raya win.
01:49:20.489 --> 01:49:21.710
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll have him beat Big Cat.
01:49:21.730 --> 01:49:23.331
[UNKNOWN]: Like, Dragon Lee, I can understand.
01:49:23.871 --> 01:49:26.313
[UNKNOWN]: Trying to get Dragon Lee over and he is getting over.
01:49:26.893 --> 01:49:30.016
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck did Ray Mysterio need to beat Big Cass for?
01:49:30.596 --> 01:49:34.820
[UNKNOWN]: Why not build Cass up when you brought him in for an eventual match with Oba?
01:49:35.781 --> 01:49:41.846
[UNKNOWN]: And then Oba could kind of, you know, beat him and have somebody more on his left-size-wise, more on his level.
01:49:43.099 --> 01:50:07.951
[UNKNOWN]: that that's one that puzzles me that could have been an opponent for me could have gotten a match out of it right now it's all about killing time until we get to the rumble and I'm like man you're just you completely wasted this guy when you could have at least used them for that one match now you can't even do that begs the question why the fuck did they even bring them in what was his point of what the hell for people over the no I think what's going on here is we're seeing the reason why they brought him back and why they brought Corbin back
01:50:08.691 --> 01:50:10.453
[UNKNOWN]: and it wasn't to push either one of them.
01:50:11.094 --> 01:50:13.396
[UNKNOWN]: Even though they put the U.S. title on Corbyn, it doesn't matter.
01:50:13.777 --> 01:50:14.858
[UNKNOWN]: That's not why they brought them back.
01:50:14.878 --> 01:50:20.184
[UNKNOWN]: They brought them back to help elevate the younger or newer guys, drag and lead, trick Williams.
01:50:20.825 --> 01:50:21.525
[UNKNOWN]: That's their role.
01:50:21.906 --> 01:50:22.967
[UNKNOWN]: That's why they brought them back.
01:50:24.420 --> 01:50:25.000
[UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
01:50:25.741 --> 01:50:29.462
[UNKNOWN]: I've no problem with that, but the point is now that they've done that, right?
01:50:29.502 --> 01:50:31.283
[UNKNOWN]: That the program with him and trick is over.
01:50:32.023 --> 01:50:36.865
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that they're sitting around the board room with their white board saying, okay, we need ideas for Baron Corbin now?
01:50:37.005 --> 01:50:37.165
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:50:37.806 --> 01:50:38.066
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:50:39.086 --> 01:50:40.867
[UNKNOWN]: He came in, he did what he was supposed to do.
01:50:41.487 --> 01:50:45.309
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what his future is, but I think that was the role that they had in mind for him.
01:50:46.189 --> 01:50:48.431
[UNKNOWN]: And with big cast, I think it's probably the same thing.
01:50:48.451 --> 01:50:49.872
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're seeing it play out that way.
01:50:49.932 --> 01:50:51.633
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, but it's over dragonly.
01:50:52.634 --> 01:50:58.297
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't understand the logic though, we need Ray Mysterio to get a win over him in this match.
01:50:58.337 --> 01:50:59.979
[UNKNOWN]: That one, that one baffles me.
01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:02.180
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's, uh, it's all but over for cast.
01:51:02.240 --> 01:51:04.041
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I don't give them much credit all there.
01:51:04.201 --> 01:51:06.043
[UNKNOWN]: That's, that's ridiculous.
01:51:07.157 --> 01:51:30.476
[UNKNOWN]: uh... back in lunch live Morgan stuff in the care this was for the women's world championship worst match of the night in my opinion here uh... i expected a lot more out of this being that uh... all three ladies are super talented i don't know man seventy minutes live more than one the championship there wasn't anything that really stuck out to me here i felt like the match was kind of clunky kind of sloppy and it's it's said because
01:51:31.136 --> 01:51:34.137
[UNKNOWN]: Stephanie wrestled live and largely that was very good.
01:51:34.157 --> 01:51:36.777
[UNKNOWN]: They went like 18 minutes in the main event of a month and a row of few weeks back.
01:51:37.738 --> 01:51:42.799
[UNKNOWN]: We had Becky and live on Monday night raw last week and that was largely pretty good.
01:51:43.059 --> 01:51:47.420
[UNKNOWN]: But getting them all three together in the ring here seemingly didn't make for a good recipe.
01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:49.780
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought it would.
01:51:50.781 --> 01:51:52.901
[UNKNOWN]: I thought the triple threat was the right way to go.
01:51:53.401 --> 01:51:58.022
[UNKNOWN]: There was a moment in here where Stephanie and Becky were trying
01:52:01.045 --> 01:52:18.591
[UNKNOWN]: uh... they were in on the ropes but they were kind of towards the corner and uh... i i think maybe one was going for a suplex and the other one was they were in on the same page i think staff in a try to kick up on live in the dd t backy which they eventually did but but i don't think backy got the memo that i don't want you yeah yeah they were
01:52:20.307 --> 01:52:22.908
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't even that they were on, they were not on the same page.
01:52:22.928 --> 01:52:25.109
[UNKNOWN]: They weren't even reading the same book.
01:52:25.950 --> 01:52:28.611
[UNKNOWN]: So that is one moment that stands out to me.
01:52:29.712 --> 01:52:31.032
[UNKNOWN]: And then nothing else really does.
01:52:31.693 --> 01:52:32.393
[UNKNOWN]: Except the finish.
01:52:33.254 --> 01:52:43.038
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh boy, okay, so we're back to this and then I realized shit, like Roxanne didn't win and now I was even more aggravated because, you know, that at least would have made more sense to me.
01:52:43.179 --> 01:52:44.739
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, they put the belt back on live.
01:52:45.260 --> 01:52:46.660
[UNKNOWN]: Roxanne's got the briefcase.
01:52:51.178 --> 01:53:01.169
[UNKNOWN]: They put the belt back on live, and I honestly, I thought the for one of the first thoughts I had was Roman has a movie coming up, live has a movie coming up.
01:53:01.929 --> 01:53:05.193
[UNKNOWN]: She's in that bad lieutenant Tokyo movie, it's coming out in the next couple of weeks.
01:53:05.874 --> 01:53:10.759
[UNKNOWN]: They wanted the belts on the people who have movies to promote in the next few weeks.
01:53:13.028 --> 01:53:13.548
[UNKNOWN]: You probably.
01:53:13.568 --> 01:53:14.549
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:53:14.729 --> 01:53:18.091
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I, I don't know how much of that leads into Saudi Arabia as well.
01:53:18.211 --> 01:53:19.432
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know.
01:53:20.253 --> 01:53:27.277
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think we should be booking champions and matches and making people champions based on what fucking Hollywood red carpet appearance they're going to be making.
01:53:27.617 --> 01:53:28.578
[UNKNOWN]: But I think that's ridiculous.
01:53:29.258 --> 01:53:34.501
[UNKNOWN]: Well, maybe maybe so, but like these are things I'm sure that sometimes do factor into these decisions.
01:53:34.561 --> 01:53:36.263
[UNKNOWN]: And we're going to talk about the men's money in the bank
01:53:41.736 --> 01:53:43.338
[UNKNOWN]: these things factor into these decisions.
01:53:43.558 --> 01:53:43.778
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:53:44.539 --> 01:53:44.739
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:53:45.379 --> 01:53:46.240
[UNKNOWN]: And we'll jump into that.
01:53:46.300 --> 01:53:51.145
[UNKNOWN]: The men's money in the bank ladder match a punk breaker, Williams, Juvan Evans, Kevin Owens, and Penta.
01:53:51.645 --> 01:53:53.287
[UNKNOWN]: This was the main event of the show.
01:53:54.748 --> 01:53:57.511
[UNKNOWN]: I, this one like 30 minutes or so, 30 plus minutes.
01:53:57.531 --> 01:53:58.151
[UNKNOWN]: This, this was,
01:53:59.113 --> 01:54:01.134
[UNKNOWN]: a car crash in every sense of the word.
01:54:01.954 --> 01:54:03.474
[UNKNOWN]: I thought this was entertaining.
01:54:04.575 --> 01:54:13.578
[UNKNOWN]: As far as ranking it in in the annals of men's money in the bank, a lot of matches, I really can't say I'd have to go back and just kind of really do a deep dive on 20 plus years of history here.
01:54:13.618 --> 01:54:20.280
[UNKNOWN]: But as far as recent ones, I would say that this was one of the more memorable ones in the last five or six years.
01:54:21.435 --> 01:54:29.139
[UNKNOWN]: But everyone's talking about the Jvon Evans spot, and it was with the ambulance, and we'll build up to it here.
01:54:29.219 --> 01:54:33.141
[UNKNOWN]: But as far as the match itself, Jason, we'll start here the layout of the match.
01:54:33.161 --> 01:54:40.265
[UNKNOWN]: What did you think of before we got to the the gurney and Jvon Evans getting taken out, and then the ambulance spot, and how fucking ridiculous that was to set it up?
01:54:40.845 --> 01:54:44.827
[UNKNOWN]: As far as the match itself, before we got to that craziness, what did you think of the match up until that point?
01:54:46.980 --> 01:54:49.801
[UNKNOWN]: I I thought it was a a very good match.
01:54:49.881 --> 01:54:55.564
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I I thought it was actually an excellent money in the bank match as far as money in the bank matches go.
01:54:56.544 --> 01:55:03.107
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I was enjoying the brown breaker streak that he went on of just destroying everybody.
01:55:04.127 --> 01:55:08.309
[UNKNOWN]: I I look at this match as rehab for brown breaker.
01:55:09.229 --> 01:55:10.230
[UNKNOWN]: He's not had a great year.
01:55:11.362 --> 01:55:12.962
[UNKNOWN]: His stock has fallen this here.
01:55:12.982 --> 01:55:15.303
[UNKNOWN]: It has not risen, which is not what you want.
01:55:15.323 --> 01:55:17.464
[UNKNOWN]: You want your stock to rise with each year, right?
01:55:17.524 --> 01:55:18.964
[UNKNOWN]: In his case, it actually fell.
01:55:19.884 --> 01:55:27.426
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that in one night, even though he didn't win, they did a really good job of kind of rehabbing him in many ways.
01:55:27.446 --> 01:55:28.867
[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of that doesn't have to do with him.
01:55:29.027 --> 01:55:32.408
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he got hurt and then Oba, I mean, a lot of things he can't really control.
01:55:32.488 --> 01:55:34.588
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying I blame him.
01:55:35.188 --> 01:55:40.730
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying you could objectively, you can't look at that and tell me that his star has only risen this
01:55:42.834 --> 01:55:43.474
[UNKNOWN]: I don't believe that.
01:55:43.574 --> 01:55:46.876
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, it is definitely like you said it has gone downwards.
01:55:47.497 --> 01:55:51.519
[UNKNOWN]: And you can only mention the, uh, the hernia.
01:55:51.959 --> 01:55:54.060
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like he had a hernia earlier this year.
01:55:54.120 --> 01:55:57.182
[UNKNOWN]: So why he was backed by WrestleMania, right?
01:55:57.322 --> 01:56:02.205
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, so maybe it's said him back in the early part of the year, but that doesn't explain his booking for the next six months.
01:56:02.265 --> 01:56:06.347
[UNKNOWN]: I would say Rollins getting injured at Crown Jewelish here actually hurt Brombrake more than the hernia did.
01:56:07.657 --> 01:56:13.741
[UNKNOWN]: Well I mean maybe so but again we're going back to late last year the beginning of this year that doesn't explain his booking for May, June, July and August.
01:56:14.482 --> 01:56:23.608
[UNKNOWN]: So it has not been a great year for Brombraker but in this match he's going around he's suplexing two people at once he's spirit I mean he murdered that spear to Giovanna evidence outside the ring.
01:56:24.428 --> 01:56:28.213
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, he fucking murdered this man with that spear.
01:56:28.674 --> 01:56:33.120
[UNKNOWN]: He's jumping on top of the barricades and jumping onto the desk and leaping off of close lines.
01:56:33.721 --> 01:56:36.324
[UNKNOWN]: So he was going crazy in this man.
01:56:36.345 --> 01:56:37.166
[UNKNOWN]: That's why I said earlier.
01:56:37.226 --> 01:56:38.047
[UNKNOWN]: He was the MVP.
01:56:39.228 --> 01:56:40.791
[UNKNOWN]: The second one would be Javan Evans.
01:56:42.060 --> 01:56:48.185
[UNKNOWN]: Giovanna Evans, he eats the spear and the officials come out, the medics come out, Matt just still going on.
01:56:48.205 --> 01:56:50.267
[UNKNOWN]: They load him up on the stretcher and they take him out.
01:56:50.907 --> 01:56:54.490
[UNKNOWN]: And my first thought is okay, someone is going to come in here and replace him.
01:56:54.870 --> 01:56:55.971
[UNKNOWN]: And that person is going to win.
01:56:56.432 --> 01:57:02.236
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be Brock Lesnar in 2019 or whatever it was all over again, you know, boombox Brock.
01:57:02.376 --> 01:57:04.558
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yelling at fans, we have hope there's a little bit of
01:57:06.588 --> 01:57:20.918
[UNKNOWN]: It's a WWE specialty where you've got to give the LA night fans hope and then kick them in the nuts, so they take them out in an ambulance and he eventually reemerges when the ambulance comes back and they drive the ambulance right up to the ring.
01:57:21.859 --> 01:57:30.705
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not thinking it's driven evidence in there at this point, because I just don't think he's a big enough name yet to like, this feels like a spot for like a big reveal.
01:57:31.505 --> 01:57:33.387
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm like, who the hell, who the hell could this be?
01:57:34.425 --> 01:57:36.146
[UNKNOWN]: Then he opens the door and it's Javan.
01:57:36.186 --> 01:57:39.709
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh, okay, they're giving him a big moment here.
01:57:40.050 --> 01:57:42.692
[UNKNOWN]: It's like Stone Cold Javan Evans and he's running wild.
01:57:42.752 --> 01:57:46.795
[UNKNOWN]: I'm Bron Braker and he's hitting trick Williams with the OG cutter and he's going nuts in there.
01:57:48.717 --> 01:57:53.521
[UNKNOWN]: And I guess I'm kind of surprised that they did a big spot like that with him and he didn't win.
01:57:54.726 --> 01:58:07.478
[UNKNOWN]: Like if you did a spot like that where someone is driving an ambulance back to the arena and down to the ring and making this big heroic comeback, it's kind of weird that that person isn't booked till like go on to win the match.
01:58:08.419 --> 01:58:09.700
[UNKNOWN]: So that surprised me a little bit.
01:58:10.791 --> 01:58:18.213
[UNKNOWN]: But then we get to the big memorable spot, the big memorable moment of this match, which didn't start off great.
01:58:19.014 --> 01:58:23.055
[UNKNOWN]: Because he went to the tallest ladder, but there were these other ladders in the ring.
01:58:23.075 --> 01:58:27.396
[UNKNOWN]: And I think what happened is the referees were communicating to him, like, you gotta get these other ladders out of the ring.
01:58:27.496 --> 01:58:27.656
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:58:27.996 --> 01:58:29.057
[UNKNOWN]: And Trebleshoon, I want them in there.
01:58:29.797 --> 01:58:30.557
[UNKNOWN]: It took forever.
01:58:30.597 --> 01:58:32.278
[UNKNOWN]: It was like he was rearranging the furniture.
01:58:32.298 --> 01:58:34.939
[UNKNOWN]: He wanted that one singular shot of the big ladder in Javada.
01:58:34.979 --> 01:58:36.640
[UNKNOWN]: It's no other obstructions in view.
01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:40.021
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we can't have anything else smudging up the background here.
01:58:40.061 --> 01:58:41.782
[UNKNOWN]: Meanwhile, like the fans were going crazy.
01:58:41.802 --> 01:58:44.683
[UNKNOWN]: And then they, you know, now it's like, okay, he's got to remove this ladder.
01:58:44.703 --> 01:58:45.944
[UNKNOWN]: He's got to remove that ladder.
01:58:46.504 --> 01:58:47.725
[UNKNOWN]: Then he sets up this tall.
01:58:47.825 --> 01:58:49.225
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how fucking tall this ladder.
01:58:49.245 --> 01:58:50.286
[UNKNOWN]: It had to be 15 feet tall.
01:58:50.306 --> 01:58:52.087
[UNKNOWN]: Was that the biggest ladder you've seen in a lot of matches?
01:58:52.107 --> 01:58:52.987
[UNKNOWN]: Was there something bigger than that?
01:58:53.423 --> 01:59:09.998
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure that I've seen bigger, but this was, this was, this was, this was pretty damn tall, but he sets it up and I'm watching him set it up by the ropes and like, why the fuck would you set the ladder up so far away from the briefcase?
01:59:10.018 --> 01:59:12.921
[UNKNOWN]: Of course he set it up by the ropes where the ambulance was parked.
01:59:13.988 --> 01:59:20.071
[UNKNOWN]: Now I understand that even Javan Evans is athletic as he may be if you set that ladder up in the middle of the ring.
01:59:20.091 --> 01:59:24.974
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going to be able to fly and land dead center and you know the fucking roof of the ambulance.
01:59:25.014 --> 01:59:25.754
[UNKNOWN]: That's why they did it.
01:59:26.675 --> 01:59:33.819
[UNKNOWN]: But you would think that like when they were going over this they would have thought boy, this is going to look weird if he's intentionally setting the ladder up so far away from the briefcase.
01:59:33.839 --> 01:59:37.801
[UNKNOWN]: So it was very contrived and just very very goofy in that way.
01:59:39.023 --> 01:59:48.346
[UNKNOWN]: And he climbs, and I don't know what his plan was, but there's Braun Breaker now down below with a big smile on his face, and now it's like, okay, at first I thought he was going through the windshield.
01:59:48.766 --> 01:59:49.886
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was going to be the spot.
01:59:50.986 --> 01:59:55.467
[UNKNOWN]: And he starts to tip the ladder over very slowly, and he flies through the air.
01:59:55.667 --> 01:59:57.408
[UNKNOWN]: It visually, I thought it actually looked great.
01:59:58.437 --> 02:00:08.620
[UNKNOWN]: And he crashes through the apparently paper mache roof of this ambulance and he goes right through it and they replayed a whole bunch of times and he was dead.
02:00:08.660 --> 02:00:09.040
[UNKNOWN]: That was it.
02:00:09.060 --> 02:00:10.641
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't see him again for the rest of the match.
02:00:11.161 --> 02:00:11.861
[UNKNOWN]: If it was elbow.
02:00:11.881 --> 02:00:14.082
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure he would have just crawled out of the hole and no sold it.
02:00:15.355 --> 02:00:20.078
[UNKNOWN]: So that was the big, memorable viral moment of the match.
02:00:20.258 --> 02:00:24.520
[UNKNOWN]: And Kudos to him because I would have been shit in a brick up there if I went flying like that.
02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:27.162
[UNKNOWN]: It takes brass balls, I think, to do a spot like that.
02:00:27.282 --> 02:00:29.703
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care what kind of precautions you take.
02:00:30.584 --> 02:00:31.444
[UNKNOWN]: I don't give a shit.
02:00:31.564 --> 02:00:32.505
[UNKNOWN]: Like when you're up there,
02:00:33.597 --> 02:00:34.197
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, come on.
02:00:34.217 --> 02:00:35.558
[UNKNOWN]: How could you do it?
02:00:35.618 --> 02:00:37.299
[UNKNOWN]: I'm my palms are getting sweaty.
02:00:37.319 --> 02:00:38.860
[UNKNOWN]: Just think it about like being up there.
02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:40.141
[UNKNOWN]: I'm afraid of heights to begin with.
02:00:40.241 --> 02:00:46.404
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's got a, I mean, he had a nice little indicator, like the little red cross in the middle of the roof of the ambulance.
02:00:46.905 --> 02:00:49.106
[UNKNOWN]: I know I still flying through the air.
02:00:49.306 --> 02:00:50.547
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you know, it's got a lamp perfectly.
02:00:50.587 --> 02:00:51.267
[UNKNOWN]: What's down below?
02:00:51.287 --> 02:00:52.548
[UNKNOWN]: How many crash pads are down there?
02:00:52.568 --> 02:00:53.468
[UNKNOWN]: What is he landing on?
02:00:53.969 --> 02:00:54.269
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:00:54.289 --> 02:00:57.891
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the margin for error is it's not that it's not that great.
02:00:58.855 --> 02:01:00.981
[UNKNOWN]: So visually, I thought it looked great.
02:01:01.041 --> 02:01:03.567
[UNKNOWN]: I thought the setup for it was incredibly stupid.
02:01:04.488 --> 02:01:13.715
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it was made stupid because he set it up by the ropes and they reached it for the fucking briefcase and like you would need like four jive on evidence to go grab the briefcase Like don't have them reach for the briefcase.
02:01:14.236 --> 02:01:15.036
[UNKNOWN]: I don't I don't know.
02:01:15.296 --> 02:01:15.657
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:01:16.137 --> 02:01:16.477
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:01:16.978 --> 02:01:17.978
[UNKNOWN]: It's fucking stupid.
02:01:18.259 --> 02:01:24.543
[UNKNOWN]: If there was somebody in the ring and he was setting up for like a Splash or moon salt or something and then bronze reemerges.
02:01:24.563 --> 02:01:25.784
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, at least then it's like, okay.
02:01:25.804 --> 02:01:27.726
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't look like such a such an idiot.
02:01:27.766 --> 02:01:31.169
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so that's what I mean It was very contrived and it just it looks silly
02:01:31.949 --> 02:01:37.012
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but then, you know, breaker gets taken out with a Mexican destroyer onto a ladder bridge.
02:01:38.133 --> 02:01:45.258
[UNKNOWN]: And then there's there's pent that punk and Owens have already been taken out, you know, they basically cancel each other out on the outside.
02:01:45.930 --> 02:01:49.811
[UNKNOWN]: And there's Penta all by his lonesome and the fans are with it.
02:01:49.871 --> 02:01:51.191
[UNKNOWN]: The fans are super excited.
02:01:51.211 --> 02:01:59.193
[UNKNOWN]: They want him to reach up and grab the briefcase and I'm looking around like, okay, somebody going to knock him off and no, he climbs up.
02:01:59.593 --> 02:02:02.474
[UNKNOWN]: He unhooks the briefcase and everybody celebrates.
02:02:02.774 --> 02:02:07.055
[UNKNOWN]: And Penta is the men's money in the bank winner for 2026 coming off.
02:02:07.095 --> 02:02:11.136
[UNKNOWN]: This incredible match he had less than a month ago with Roman Reigns.
02:02:12.191 --> 02:02:17.322
[UNKNOWN]: where he didn't win the championship, but it felt like, okay, unlike Braun Breaker, his stock really soared.
02:02:17.342 --> 02:02:19.046
[UNKNOWN]: His stock went up with that match.
02:02:19.926 --> 02:02:31.936
[UNKNOWN]: now he's got the briefcase and it's not like the women where it's a hundred percent that he's going to win the title but now he's in a position where he's I think he's going to be a world heavyweight champion either on Rars Macta.
02:02:32.236 --> 02:02:33.077
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:02:33.137 --> 02:02:39.763
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like for him to cash in and fail, I mean, would be very short-sighted.
02:02:40.063 --> 02:02:41.885
[UNKNOWN]: I think if that's how it works out.
02:02:42.580 --> 02:02:48.805
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's a lot more likely he cashes in for the WWE title on SmackDown than for the world title on Raw.
02:02:48.926 --> 02:02:52.569
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see any path to him winning the world heavyweight title on Raw.
02:02:53.189 --> 02:02:53.289
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:02:53.349 --> 02:02:55.792
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody even mentioned anything about Roman Reigns getting cashed in on.
02:02:55.812 --> 02:02:59.455
[UNKNOWN]: It was always Sami Zayn, pants are showed up on SmackDown to say I'm going to cash in on Sami Zayn.
02:02:59.875 --> 02:03:01.376
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody's going to cash in on Sami Zayn.
02:03:01.396 --> 02:03:02.858
[UNKNOWN]: So Roman absolutely is out of the question.
02:03:03.688 --> 02:03:05.269
[UNKNOWN]: Um, his brother can just roam in.
02:03:05.309 --> 02:03:14.773
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying like he's got 12 months, like if Roman loses it to Oba, like he's not beating Oba, like I don't see any path for him to win that title on Raw.
02:03:15.114 --> 02:03:22.057
[UNKNOWN]: So I feel like the only way for him to be a world champion is for him to eventually cash in on Smackdown.
02:03:22.117 --> 02:03:24.098
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't see that being until sometime next year.
02:03:25.287 --> 02:03:30.712
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Henta one, I know I was low key polling for, we're not really okay, I made it very publicly.
02:03:30.752 --> 02:03:38.558
[UNKNOWN]: No, and that was pulling for Brahm Braker because I think that would be the best rehabilitation for Brahm Braker, Jason wanted to Kevin Owens.
02:03:38.578 --> 02:03:39.479
[UNKNOWN]: He was going Kevin Owens.
02:03:39.639 --> 02:03:41.281
[UNKNOWN]: I would have been all right while I won those guys.
02:03:41.821 --> 02:03:43.523
[UNKNOWN]: Anybody but punk, because we've been there.
02:03:44.243 --> 02:03:46.525
[UNKNOWN]: Javon Evans had zeroes presented chance winning this match.
02:03:47.706 --> 02:03:49.148
[UNKNOWN]: No, I wouldn't say it zero.
02:03:50.249 --> 02:03:51.309
[UNKNOWN]: I said he had non-zero.
02:03:52.280 --> 02:03:56.851
[UNKNOWN]: So not zero, but very low, trick Williams of the one who I said has zero.
02:03:57.232 --> 02:03:57.472
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:03:58.074 --> 02:03:59.918
[UNKNOWN]: And punk would have been the worst choice of all six.
02:04:00.159 --> 02:04:01.261
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that would have been the most boring.
02:04:01.995 --> 02:04:27.605
[UNKNOWN]: uh... for anybody looking for a change that would have been the most boring uh... right now for us mentioned on ex that pentest money to make briefcase is apparently back ordered through February so he's selling a ton of merch w we clearly is gonna ride the hot hand in penta and i don't know why anybody even though we both went with anybody but penta here i feel like penta winning can't be looked at as a bed thing
02:04:28.365 --> 02:04:43.235
[UNKNOWN]: because if you if you're a fan of Penta you know from watching his days in lucha on the ground and you see him working on the indies and you go and watch his stuff in TNA with L.A. ex antenna and Ortiz him and right Phoenix that brutal match is wars.
02:04:43.896 --> 02:04:54.523
[UNKNOWN]: His stuff in a w for the first five years he was in OG and then he gets the w w. The one thing I said on my Monday night raw reviewed json after his opening segment on raw last night is
02:04:55.684 --> 02:05:10.936
[UNKNOWN]: I am so proud of the fact that he came to WWE where a lot of people like him because of his background and that he's Lucha and that he doesn't really speak English language fluently, even though he's very good at what he does.
02:05:11.216 --> 02:05:14.479
[UNKNOWN]: He can speak a promo no problem, but sometime that's
02:05:18.942 --> 02:05:19.603
[UNKNOWN]: by being him.
02:05:20.043 --> 02:05:25.130
[UNKNOWN]: He hasn't changed the fucking thing about what he's done and what he is since his days in lucha on the ground.
02:05:25.190 --> 02:05:27.853
[UNKNOWN]: He's penta and he's gotten over with his orders by being penta.
02:05:28.467 --> 02:05:28.927
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:05:28.947 --> 02:05:31.788
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the only thing that's different, it's not, it's not Pentagon dark.
02:05:32.068 --> 02:05:32.248
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:05:32.348 --> 02:05:32.528
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:05:32.548 --> 02:05:36.589
[UNKNOWN]: So we haven't seen the heel dark version of him and we're not going to in WWE.
02:05:37.409 --> 02:05:39.170
[UNKNOWN]: Although there were a lot of people making the joke.
02:05:39.230 --> 02:05:40.570
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even realize it at first.
02:05:41.230 --> 02:05:45.511
[UNKNOWN]: But like he's got the money in the bank briefcase at a time when Chelsea Green is champion.
02:05:45.871 --> 02:05:49.752
[UNKNOWN]: And he and Chelsea had a great match once in Lucha Underground.
02:05:49.792 --> 02:05:51.573
[UNKNOWN]: So that would be kind of funny if he cashed in on her.
02:05:52.756 --> 02:05:55.378
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, this is not anybody who watched Luke Chandagram.
02:05:55.398 --> 02:05:57.860
[UNKNOWN]: This is not that version of Penta.
02:05:57.900 --> 02:06:07.368
[UNKNOWN]: However It is it is authentic pentates the pentat we saw in a w and somebody in the chat set is just a little while ago, and it's a hundred percent true like
02:06:08.326 --> 02:06:14.449
[UNKNOWN]: The idea of Penta as a World Champion WWE would have been unthinkable in the Vince McMahon era.
02:06:14.629 --> 02:06:15.190
[UNKNOWN]: 100%.
02:06:15.970 --> 02:06:16.831
[UNKNOWN]: Never would have seen it.
02:06:17.611 --> 02:06:35.861
[UNKNOWN]: Because there was a stigma in that company where, yeah, I mean, even just a guy in a mask, unless you're someone like Kane, Kane Kane might, is Kane the only person, I guess Ramistirio was a champion, but like how many people have won a World Championship in WWE, like a masked superstar, have held world titles in WWE.
02:06:37.041 --> 02:06:39.262
[UNKNOWN]: Are those the only two, or am I missing somebody else?
02:06:40.123 --> 02:06:43.405
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I'm going to look at a, let's see if, yeah, very, very few.
02:06:43.425 --> 02:06:56.313
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's two or three, maybe at the most, uh, but this, this guy, like you said, English is not his first language, and he's, you know, this Lucha Libre guy, like, he never would have been given a chance, never would have happened.
02:06:57.068 --> 02:07:00.449
[UNKNOWN]: The thing would pen to though is it's so what, English is not his first language.
02:07:00.469 --> 02:07:02.971
[UNKNOWN]: He could still cut promos, but he's got a charisma about him.
02:07:03.431 --> 02:07:11.654
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the thing, like, if you have charisma, I think more than any other attribute, even big muscles in a great physique.
02:07:11.754 --> 02:07:17.717
[UNKNOWN]: The number one thing that will take you the furthest, especially in this company, is charisma, like a natural charisma.
02:07:18.557 --> 02:07:23.599
[UNKNOWN]: And if you have that, you could probably talk, that is going to get you a hell of a long way.
02:07:23.699 --> 02:07:24.960
[UNKNOWN]: And he's got that in spades.
02:07:25.000 --> 02:07:36.245
[UNKNOWN]: He has a connection with the audience that you can't manufacture and believe me, Vince and WWE, they've tried to, they tried for years with Roman to manufacture some sort of connection with him in the fans and it just didn't work.
02:07:37.205 --> 02:07:50.173
[UNKNOWN]: for Penta it just comes naturally and the fans have connected with him from day one really from the moment he came onto Monday night raw so it's just great to see him rewarded in that way and for the fans to reward him with that kind of reaction.
02:07:50.653 --> 02:07:55.536
[UNKNOWN]: So it's one of the chance that Mr. America won the one that you have achieved.
02:07:55.976 --> 02:07:56.436
[UNKNOWN]: No he didn't.
02:07:56.897 --> 02:07:58.637
[UNKNOWN]: That's some of the chance that I didn't say that.
02:07:58.818 --> 02:08:01.459
[UNKNOWN]: What title the oh no he didn't.
02:08:01.619 --> 02:08:02.880
[UNKNOWN]: Mr. American every one at a time.
02:08:03.180 --> 02:08:18.450
[UNKNOWN]: Well, anyway, this four main wrestlers in WWE history is a alter ego four main wrestlers in WWE history of one the world Tell you which championship well wearing a mass cane number one man kind Ramesh stereo and bright Wyatt has the fiend.
02:08:19.211 --> 02:08:19.771
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow.
02:08:19.811 --> 02:08:23.494
[UNKNOWN]: It was the universal champion Okay, so four in like 60 years.
02:08:23.674 --> 02:08:25.695
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the point is my points still stand.
02:08:25.715 --> 02:08:27.716
[UNKNOWN]: You're not gonna find very many mass men
02:08:28.775 --> 02:08:41.508
[UNKNOWN]: uh... who have held a world championship in this company and penta is just he's someone who he just supersedes all of them and like if if if you have it you have it and if you don't you don't
02:08:42.290 --> 02:08:43.030
[UNKNOWN]: And he's got it.
02:08:43.950 --> 02:08:57.814
[UNKNOWN]: So again, I hope he cashes in successfully when the time comes and hopefully he stays healthy and all that and he can just have all the success because he deserves it and the other thing is if you make the company a lot of money with your merch, that'll go a long way too.
02:08:58.434 --> 02:09:00.594
[UNKNOWN]: So he's a great merch seller and he's got charisma.
02:09:01.274 --> 02:09:01.775
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
02:09:02.135 --> 02:09:02.855
[UNKNOWN]: He's a made guy.
02:09:03.694 --> 02:09:07.535
[UNKNOWN]: Now, this is largely a healer gimmick the morning in the bag.
02:09:07.575 --> 02:09:10.236
[UNKNOWN]: Now, Penta has it, Tiffany has it, they're both baby faces.
02:09:10.997 --> 02:09:21.721
[UNKNOWN]: Does Penta cash in honorably like RVD going into the 2006 ECW one night stand or does he take Sami Zayn at his lowest and sneaks in a victory for the WWE that be taught.
02:09:21.741 --> 02:09:22.501
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think is going to happen?
02:09:22.661 --> 02:09:25.002
[UNKNOWN]: I think he cashes, I think he calls his shot.
02:09:25.902 --> 02:09:27.203
[UNKNOWN]: I think he does it honorably.
02:09:27.623 --> 02:09:27.843
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:09:29.202 --> 02:09:39.469
[UNKNOWN]: I think it would just it fits better, I think, if he does it that way, do we see that happen before crown jewel and we get pent and Roman crown jewel or do we wait till maybe rumble time to do that?
02:09:40.610 --> 02:09:42.231
[UNKNOWN]: Roman, I don't think it happens until next year.
02:09:42.491 --> 02:09:42.651
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:09:43.531 --> 02:09:44.352
[UNKNOWN]: That's my prediction.
02:09:44.392 --> 02:09:53.718
[UNKNOWN]: I and when next year is it after WrestleMania is it's sometime before Mania for his sake probably better to wait until, you know, after Mania, but
02:09:54.675 --> 02:09:56.118
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just don't see it happening this year.
02:09:57.301 --> 02:10:01.409
[UNKNOWN]: I just, I don't know, I don't get the sense that it's something that happens in the next few weeks.
02:10:01.429 --> 02:10:03.353
[UNKNOWN]: We're less than a month away now from Crown Jewel.
02:10:03.413 --> 02:10:04.876
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't see that happening.
02:10:05.532 --> 02:10:06.873
[UNKNOWN]: So it's probably going to be against Sammy.
02:10:07.594 --> 02:10:11.777
[UNKNOWN]: We've talked in Austin about how Romans probably not losing that championship.
02:10:11.977 --> 02:10:23.687
[UNKNOWN]: Do you give them any at all, anything at all to have penta cash and call a shot against Roman beat Roman, only for them Roman to beat Penta again for the title before Russell Manie.
02:10:24.287 --> 02:10:24.427
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:10:24.868 --> 02:10:24.988
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:10:25.128 --> 02:10:25.328
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:10:25.989 --> 02:10:27.169
[UNKNOWN]: It's not being intended again.
02:10:27.390 --> 02:10:30.692
[UNKNOWN]: We just talked about this with him and O, but everything.
02:10:30.832 --> 02:10:34.716
[UNKNOWN]: If it didn't happen with LA tonight, I just don't think they want anybody beating Roman until we get to
02:10:35.642 --> 02:10:39.224
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I don't know why they would make an exception for Penta in that.
02:10:39.324 --> 02:10:43.827
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, well, the only reason I brought her up is because I think the whole idea was that they wanted to do that match again.
02:10:44.367 --> 02:10:48.790
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe they don't, maybe they realize that it's just going to be a lose-loose situation.
02:10:48.810 --> 02:10:53.032
[UNKNOWN]: They want Penta at a top level, but if they put him against Roman, he'll never be the check being.
02:10:53.793 --> 02:11:00.477
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'll say this much, if that is the case, and I'm wrong, and they have him call his shot.
02:11:01.161 --> 02:11:04.965
[UNKNOWN]: against Roman and say, I want one more shot and they do that match, he's got a win.
02:11:05.105 --> 02:11:05.585
[UNKNOWN]: He has to win.
02:11:06.066 --> 02:11:07.347
[UNKNOWN]: He has to win.
02:11:07.387 --> 02:11:11.952
[UNKNOWN]: 100% he has to win anything else is just fucking booking malpractice.
02:11:11.992 --> 02:11:18.438
[UNKNOWN]: If he goes in there and loses again to Roman reigns, these people are out of their fucking minds and they should all be relieved of their duty.
02:11:19.199 --> 02:11:20.140
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's it.
02:11:20.180 --> 02:11:21.061
[UNKNOWN]: Period end of story.
02:11:21.601 --> 02:11:24.965
[UNKNOWN]: They should be given their walking papers and they should get a kick in the ass and out the door they go.
02:11:27.092 --> 02:11:29.113
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, uh, you got to bring up all the variables.
02:11:29.253 --> 02:11:31.334
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, it's probably going to be in Sammy.
02:11:31.434 --> 02:11:31.995
[UNKNOWN]: I agree.
02:11:32.035 --> 02:11:34.536
[UNKNOWN]: I think, uh, an honorable cash in is the way to go.
02:11:34.556 --> 02:11:37.018
[UNKNOWN]: We will see what happens with that.
02:11:37.138 --> 02:11:40.940
[UNKNOWN]: But that was money in the bank largely a, uh, entertaining show.
02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:48.586
[UNKNOWN]: But the creative, one of the worst shows in my opinion, that Triple H is creatively booked all year.
02:11:48.686 --> 02:11:51.149
[UNKNOWN]: Monday and at Raw, we won't spend too much time on this.
02:11:51.189 --> 02:11:52.350
[UNKNOWN]: We talked about Penta.
02:11:52.370 --> 02:11:54.452
[UNKNOWN]: We talked about Chelsea Green and Liv Morgan.
02:11:54.472 --> 02:12:02.799
[UNKNOWN]: We talked about Oba and Paul Hamon, quick thought Jason on chat Gable and Ray Phoenix, the match that they had and when we may see.
02:12:03.440 --> 02:12:15.912
[UNKNOWN]: because it certainly looks like it's going to be set up imminently because the Chad Gable apology tour right right through Ray Mysterio, Ray Phoenix, Stregan Lee, Penta, it seems like Ethan Page is the final destination.
02:12:15.932 --> 02:12:16.733
[UNKNOWN]: When does that match happen?
02:12:18.157 --> 02:12:20.159
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it seems like it's going to be happening very soon.
02:12:20.179 --> 02:12:23.382
[UNKNOWN]: I thought the match last night was fucking fantastic.
02:12:23.783 --> 02:12:31.150
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was honestly as a wrestling match, it didn't have the crowd heat that the opening match had on Saturday, but this was better than anything on the money in the bank show.
02:12:31.751 --> 02:12:35.915
[UNKNOWN]: Like these guys went out there, what I hadn't even clocked it as far as how much time they got.
02:12:35.935 --> 02:12:37.317
[UNKNOWN]: I think they got a good amount of time.
02:12:37.397 --> 02:12:39.159
[UNKNOWN]: I think they went around 17 minutes, 18 minutes.
02:12:39.359 --> 02:12:40.820
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was close to 20 minutes.
02:12:41.881 --> 02:13:09.741
[UNKNOWN]: And there was a moment in this match where he had, I think he had Phoenix in an ankle lock, and Phoenix was trying to kick his way free, and he was kicking him in the fucking... Like he was as hard as he could do, he was kicking him in the fucking face, like three or four times, and I'm like, there's no way that Gable's not coming up with some blood on his face, and sure enough he had blood on his nose, and then I saw he posted something on social media saying that his face looked like hamburger meat today, and of course his wife had scheduled them for like family photos.
02:13:11.162 --> 02:13:26.341
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so, yeah, this was, this is, this is Chad Gable in his element, but this is the Chad Gable that many of us wanted to see, giving him great opponents, giving him time to go out there and have great wrestling matches.
02:13:26.962 --> 02:13:27.483
[UNKNOWN]: And it worked.
02:13:27.663 --> 02:13:29.525
[UNKNOWN]: Like you heard the crowd reaction last night.
02:13:30.124 --> 02:13:55.833
[UNKNOWN]: All right, this is awesome and they were hanging on to every near fall, like it was it was great now they do have to do some work to try to like story wise he doesn't have a whole lot going I know the Ethan page stuff they've been teasing that for a while, but there's not a whole lot of like to very thin story right now and I'm not going to lie as a character on the show as compared to like when he was doing some of the heel stuff he was doing.
02:13:57.518 --> 02:14:00.540
[UNKNOWN]: character wise, there could be more there.
02:14:01.481 --> 02:14:08.427
[UNKNOWN]: Right now it's just the baby face guy who comes out and has great matches and that's great for now, but that's going to have to, you know, evolve at some point.
02:14:09.207 --> 02:14:20.596
[UNKNOWN]: But these matches that he's been having, whether it's Ray Mysterio or whether it's Dragon Lee or whether it's Ray Phoenix, like he's the best wrestler in the company, right?
02:14:21.036 --> 02:14:24.219
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, period end of story, he's he's fucking great.
02:14:24.299 --> 02:14:26.281
[UNKNOWN]: Now he finally has a chance to go out there and show it.
02:14:27.083 --> 02:14:31.045
[UNKNOWN]: So I loved it and I wouldn't mind them if they wanted to run it back again.
02:14:31.065 --> 02:14:38.530
[UNKNOWN]: I know Phoenix was saying that after the match, but when Ethan Page gets his shot, it feels like he's going to win.
02:14:39.351 --> 02:14:43.533
[UNKNOWN]: It feels like that's been something they've been kind of holding off on for a while.
02:14:44.133 --> 02:14:47.676
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, again, unless they want 946, we'll see where this 946 push goes.
02:14:50.137 --> 02:14:59.817
[UNKNOWN]: If it kind of ends at Survivor Series, or if it really continues on from there, because if they want them to win some gold, I could see them getting the IC title on someone like Melo.
02:15:01.005 --> 02:15:04.489
[UNKNOWN]: so that's the only thing that makes me wonder if maybe they don't want to put the belt on Ethan.
02:15:05.049 --> 02:15:08.673
[UNKNOWN]: But that match has to be happening soon, like within the next month I would think that could be a crown jewel.
02:15:09.013 --> 02:15:21.145
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I said last night, I figured that would be a crown jewel, but yeah, the rehabilitation of Phoenix to ever since I would say Summer's Lamb on, he's been fucking on a nice string of momentum, he's getting hot.
02:15:21.846 --> 02:15:29.951
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully that continues on a pentast, he's like bypassed his brother as far as popularity and just kind of the way the company looks at both of them together.
02:15:30.791 --> 02:15:34.113
[UNKNOWN]: Ray Phoenix to see him come along finally is great, you know?
02:15:34.253 --> 02:15:35.854
[UNKNOWN]: That's all, but that's always been the case though.
02:15:35.954 --> 02:15:36.154
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:15:36.654 --> 02:15:40.997
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there was ever a period of time where Ray Phoenix was more popular than pentast.
02:15:42.923 --> 02:15:45.744
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, just on sheer charisma alone.
02:15:45.804 --> 02:15:45.985
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:15:46.305 --> 02:15:46.825
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:15:46.845 --> 02:15:47.265
[UNKNOWN]: So many.
02:15:48.066 --> 02:15:52.088
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, even in a debut, I mean, Penta was always the more the more probably, or even a luch on the ground.
02:15:52.108 --> 02:15:54.369
[UNKNOWN]: Penta was always the more popular of the two.
02:15:55.649 --> 02:16:05.334
[UNKNOWN]: Talent-wise, I mean, they're both fucking great, but Penta just again, Penta has a certain intangible and a certain charisma to him that Ray Phoenix doesn't have.
02:16:05.514 --> 02:16:06.455
[UNKNOWN]: No, even on promos.
02:16:07.433 --> 02:16:09.774
[UNKNOWN]: Go watch a pentopromo and go watch a Ray Phoenix program.
02:16:09.814 --> 02:16:11.034
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like there's no comparison.
02:16:11.054 --> 02:16:13.695
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a connection to the audience that Ray Phoenix is the pentopromo.
02:16:13.715 --> 02:16:17.697
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it's not, it's not past or blood.
02:16:18.097 --> 02:16:18.697
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
02:16:18.717 --> 02:16:21.618
[UNKNOWN]: Like it's not just because their brothers doesn't mean they both have it.
02:16:22.518 --> 02:16:24.859
[UNKNOWN]: Phoenix is great, but pentah has something that he doesn't.
02:16:26.199 --> 02:16:27.200
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we got my guy.
02:16:27.280 --> 02:16:28.760
[UNKNOWN]: Isaac in the chat, what's up, brother?
02:16:28.780 --> 02:16:30.861
[UNKNOWN]: Much love boys, congrats to H.O.G.
02:16:30.941 --> 02:16:31.841
[UNKNOWN]: on 100K.
02:16:32.021 --> 02:16:32.782
[UNKNOWN]: Hope you're well, brother.
02:16:33.262 --> 02:16:34.162
[UNKNOWN]: Please be safe out there.
02:16:36.967 --> 02:16:42.951
[UNKNOWN]: Carmelo Hase, this was the last thing that we'll touch upon before we just briefly talk about some A, W stuff.
02:16:43.011 --> 02:16:50.157
[UNKNOWN]: Carmelo Hase is now the newest member of nine four six, this six-man-take team match starter off pretty wild.
02:16:50.217 --> 02:16:56.021
[UNKNOWN]: It was Texas tornado rules kind of, but then it kind of settled into a regular six-man-take team.
02:16:56.521 --> 02:16:59.764
[UNKNOWN]: Adam Pierce appointed Shatt Patton as the referee here.
02:16:59.784 --> 02:17:03.106
[UNKNOWN]: He wanted a senior official early on the show to take this spot here.
02:17:05.448 --> 02:17:19.591
[UNKNOWN]: so uh... he's like the uh... you show you want me there and at and pierce is like i just want you to count a pinfall or submission that's uh... i'd be these not wrong it's like you're you're sending this poor bastard out there with these six got seven people if you want to count jayda
02:17:20.480 --> 02:17:21.580
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, I'm watching this.
02:17:21.600 --> 02:17:28.503
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going, if you really want to make sure they keep the piece, why wouldn't you assign a second referee to be outside the ring?
02:17:28.743 --> 02:17:29.124
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:17:29.664 --> 02:17:31.424
[UNKNOWN]: Why would you just send this guy out to the wolves?
02:17:31.805 --> 02:17:32.725
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:17:32.845 --> 02:17:36.947
[UNKNOWN]: Which if you watch what happened, he got pulled out of the ring and Jayda Parker, he threw him into the crowd.
02:17:37.127 --> 02:17:37.627
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like.
02:17:37.867 --> 02:17:40.788
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, solo, solo nailed keys with a spinning solo.
02:17:41.349 --> 02:17:46.070
[UNKNOWN]: And then Parker pulled the referee out of the ring and then dumped this poor guy over the barricade in the front row.
02:17:47.531 --> 02:17:49.052
[UNKNOWN]: So then that's when the match broke down.
02:17:49.092 --> 02:18:04.017
[UNKNOWN]: We had the Usos and OTM kind of brawling it to the crowd and they're going to one of the kind of one of the entrances in the crowd and we see the Uso J. Uso in particular jump off on top of OTM and then shade a Parker goes up there and she's in the Mezzanine level.
02:18:04.057 --> 02:18:07.998
[UNKNOWN]: She jumps down and she's like pulling out her inner Darby Allen.
02:18:08.018 --> 02:18:10.859
[UNKNOWN]: He had jumps on to the Usos and everybody down below.
02:18:11.479 --> 02:18:15.641
[UNKNOWN]: And then Solo is in the ring with Royce Keys
02:18:16.501 --> 02:18:23.426
[UNKNOWN]: So there was a spot where both of them went through the announced table, and that happened late in the match.
02:18:23.466 --> 02:18:26.728
[UNKNOWN]: A Simone dropped into the announce table with Solo then rolls keys back into the ring.
02:18:26.748 --> 02:18:31.071
[UNKNOWN]: He lands a flying splash, and he's about to prepare to go for the Simone spike.
02:18:31.091 --> 02:18:35.173
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm saying there's no fucking referees like pretending like he's going to hit the spike and then win the matches.
02:18:35.213 --> 02:18:36.134
[UNKNOWN]: No referee out there.
02:18:36.935 --> 02:18:39.056
[UNKNOWN]: So all of a sudden Carmelo Hayes runs down.
02:18:39.276 --> 02:18:42.878
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know who it is at first, but a match in the visual runs down.
02:18:42.919 --> 02:18:44.740
[UNKNOWN]: He attacks Solo in the knee with a crowbar.
02:18:45.568 --> 02:18:48.250
[UNKNOWN]: Hayes helps Kees get back to his feet.
02:18:48.351 --> 02:18:51.573
[UNKNOWN]: He unmasked himself and we see exactly what happened here.
02:18:51.593 --> 02:18:53.835
[UNKNOWN]: Carmella Hayes is the newest member of 946.
02:18:54.296 --> 02:19:00.622
[UNKNOWN]: Kees hit a big spine buster and then they all put the boots to the Usos Hayes with more crowbar shots to the Usos.
02:19:01.182 --> 02:19:05.306
[UNKNOWN]: OTM then gets their finish, which is a double-sumo and drop on the Usos.
02:19:05.326 --> 02:19:06.006
[UNKNOWN]: This is a heaven name.
02:19:06.787 --> 02:19:07.508
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it has a name.
02:19:07.528 --> 02:19:08.789
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it does, but I don't know what it does.
02:19:09.329 --> 02:19:09.930
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:19:10.550 --> 02:19:12.072
[UNKNOWN]: But he probably should be in the mud.
02:19:12.558 --> 02:19:15.653
[UNKNOWN]: right if they were if they were called out the mud then their finish could be in the mud.
02:19:16.507 --> 02:19:16.867
[UNKNOWN]: It works.
02:19:17.287 --> 02:19:18.868
[UNKNOWN]: That may be that actually may be it.
02:19:18.968 --> 02:19:19.328
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly.
02:19:19.348 --> 02:19:19.728
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:19:19.828 --> 02:19:20.148
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:19:20.168 --> 02:19:20.548
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:19:20.568 --> 02:19:20.788
[UNKNOWN]: I should.
02:19:20.808 --> 02:19:21.448
[UNKNOWN]: I should have was.
02:19:21.468 --> 02:19:21.808
[UNKNOWN]: I look at it.
02:19:21.828 --> 02:19:25.029
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe you guys can find out because, uh, I mean, they were in X.
02:19:25.629 --> 02:19:28.069
[UNKNOWN]: So, um, at that point, they took everybody out.
02:19:28.129 --> 02:19:33.191
[UNKNOWN]: Keys then picks up Jay and wanted Jay to inform Roma Reigns, the tell him that nobody's safe.
02:19:33.651 --> 02:19:35.471
[UNKNOWN]: He sets up a chair in the middle of the ring.
02:19:35.551 --> 02:19:38.052
[UNKNOWN]: And we see key sitting in the chair with Jay to next to him.
02:19:38.092 --> 02:19:38.832
[UNKNOWN]: Oteam in the back.
02:19:38.852 --> 02:19:40.752
[UNKNOWN]: And then, then it was member Carmella Hayes.
02:19:40.772 --> 02:19:44.213
[UNKNOWN]: And that one shot of the group was really great to close Monday and
02:19:45.866 --> 02:20:03.144
[UNKNOWN]: Jason Carmella has blacked out his social media and apparently fans ran with this as if he's getting released or his contract is up people were making wild speculations mjf even posted an Instagram real with him and Carmella has on the indies kind of playing into it.
02:20:03.504 --> 02:20:07.868
[UNKNOWN]: Which mjf trolls everybody saw him assuming he kind of knew what was going on and just kind of wanted to fuck the fans.
02:20:08.609 --> 02:20:21.120
[UNKNOWN]: But he blacked out his social media and they made wild speculations, only for us to find out that this was the plan since he lost the barren Corbin in his last match on SmackDown back.
02:20:21.160 --> 02:20:24.182
[UNKNOWN]: I believe in August when he wrestled for the United States Championship.
02:20:24.242 --> 02:20:26.024
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't make another TV appearance since then.
02:20:26.524 --> 02:20:27.805
[UNKNOWN]: People were like, where is he?
02:20:28.406 --> 02:20:29.747
[UNKNOWN]: Is his standing in the company good?
02:20:29.767 --> 02:20:30.607
[UNKNOWN]: Is he going to get released?
02:20:30.627 --> 02:20:31.448
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to let him go?
02:20:31.488 --> 02:20:32.449
[UNKNOWN]: Is this contract up?
02:20:32.549 --> 02:20:34.230
[UNKNOWN]: Is he maybe getting ready for his wedding?
02:20:35.053 --> 02:20:37.835
[UNKNOWN]: But he shows up, new look, looks refreshed.
02:20:38.055 --> 02:20:39.316
[UNKNOWN]: He fits in like a glove.
02:20:39.916 --> 02:20:42.498
[UNKNOWN]: And there's so many more pros to this than our cons.
02:20:43.179 --> 02:20:46.021
[UNKNOWN]: And one of them is, it gets him away from Smackdown.
02:20:46.461 --> 02:20:48.402
[UNKNOWN]: And it gets him away from the midcard.
02:20:48.783 --> 02:20:52.785
[UNKNOWN]: And he's automatically thrust into the main event scene on Monday night in the biggest angle in the company.
02:20:53.166 --> 02:20:57.669
[UNKNOWN]: And he's probably going to be in war games next to Roma Reigns in the U-Sos and Jacob Fathom and Solosico.
02:20:58.109 --> 02:20:58.709
[UNKNOWN]: So that's number one.
02:20:59.070 --> 02:20:59.530
[UNKNOWN]: Number two.
02:21:00.010 --> 02:21:01.972
[UNKNOWN]: And I said this one pretty defiantly on my end.
02:21:02.572 --> 02:21:11.514
[UNKNOWN]: trick Williams and Carmella Hayes were so heavily linked in NXT that when Carmella Hayes spent all those years on the main roster and didn't really do much of anything.
02:21:11.594 --> 02:21:14.594
[UNKNOWN]: Outside of a token, you're not a state's title run, open challenge is really good stuff.
02:21:15.354 --> 02:21:18.995
[UNKNOWN]: But trick comes in and he steals almost all of Carmella's thunder.
02:21:19.275 --> 02:21:20.895
[UNKNOWN]: And nobody's talking about mellow anymore.
02:21:20.915 --> 02:21:21.956
[UNKNOWN]: It's like trick trick trick.
02:21:22.296 --> 02:21:25.796
[UNKNOWN]: Tricks got the entrance, tricks got the catchphrases, he's a future world champion.
02:21:26.096 --> 02:21:29.037
[UNKNOWN]: Six months in, he did more than Carmella Hayes did in two years on the main roster.
02:21:29.657 --> 02:21:38.440
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, it is so good to get Carmella away from that huge shadow that trick Williams cast over him because I don't think that was something he was going to be able to combat.
02:21:39.081 --> 02:21:42.822
[UNKNOWN]: So getting him over to Monday and at Raw in this group refresh new role.
02:21:43.502 --> 02:21:44.683
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's fucking perfect man.
02:21:44.703 --> 02:21:47.304
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was one of the better creative decisions Triple H did all year.
02:21:49.046 --> 02:22:09.107
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it was, it was really, it made a lot of sense for him to be a part of this group, which, again, I know Royce Keys is not necessarily the youngest, the member of the roster, but it does feel like without TM and Jayda and everything, these are younger stars where there's a spotlight being shined on them.
02:22:09.908 --> 02:22:15.892
[UNKNOWN]: And for mellow to come into this spot, not only does it put him in a higher position than the one he would have been in on Smackdown.
02:22:15.932 --> 02:22:19.154
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say if he would have beaten trick for the US title, if they turned him heel.
02:22:19.714 --> 02:22:25.178
[UNKNOWN]: This is a better spot for him to be in, but also he's going to be the worst course of that group.
02:22:25.518 --> 02:22:28.320
[UNKNOWN]: He's automatically the best wrestler out of everybody in that crew.
02:22:28.460 --> 02:22:28.680
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:22:29.320 --> 02:22:31.442
[UNKNOWN]: So I feel like you needed somebody like that.
02:22:32.596 --> 02:22:42.242
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know where all this nonsense came from where, oh, his social media got black that and so that means he's leaving and going to aid, like, there have been wrestlers that have done this before.
02:22:42.262 --> 02:22:49.266
[UNKNOWN]: Didn't Johnny Gargano do this at one point or like, it's like, so, but when did that become more like, okay, dinner and I believe, too?
02:22:50.046 --> 02:22:52.988
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like multiple wrestlers have done this and then they don't know where.
02:22:53.048 --> 02:22:56.290
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know why people thought that this was some indication of him leaving.
02:22:57.407 --> 02:23:04.539
[UNKNOWN]: I could understand if people thought maybe he was upset about his booking and was just sort of, you know, sending a message that way.
02:23:05.742 --> 02:23:29.587
[UNKNOWN]: But I like I didn't even know that he had done that to his social media until people made such a big deal about it So to me that all that is just noise when I saw him I was like man I didn't see it coming and it was one of those surprises where it was like fuck that's that's perfect It's perfect and it now puts him square in the middle of the top program the top feud
02:23:30.447 --> 02:23:53.038
[UNKNOWN]: anywhere in the company raw or smack down right he's in this mix now he's going to be part of a war games match of the men's war games match most likely uh at survivor series and it also moves into raw he's been on smack down this entire time so i think this is the perfect move for him and it's great and i think he he will do very well for himself
02:23:54.030 --> 02:23:55.431
[UNKNOWN]: So I loved everything about it.
02:23:55.691 --> 02:24:00.533
[UNKNOWN]: I love that closing shot, a voice sitting in the chair, flanked by everybody else standing behind them.
02:24:01.294 --> 02:24:03.815
[UNKNOWN]: I think this group has really come together very well.
02:24:04.415 --> 02:24:09.658
[UNKNOWN]: Some of the stuff they've done, like the fucking arson, and all that, you could say that's very silly.
02:24:10.587 --> 02:24:15.831
[UNKNOWN]: But one thing you can't say is that they're not really putting their full creative muscle behind this group, right?
02:24:15.911 --> 02:24:17.953
[UNKNOWN]: Everything is built around them right now.
02:24:18.173 --> 02:24:20.034
[UNKNOWN]: And they're running people over with cars.
02:24:20.054 --> 02:24:21.195
[UNKNOWN]: They're doing all this stuff.
02:24:22.076 --> 02:24:24.538
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to get this this crew over.
02:24:24.818 --> 02:24:29.882
[UNKNOWN]: And I think working with Roman and those guys is going to go a long way towards doing that.
02:24:30.403 --> 02:24:36.287
[UNKNOWN]: And I like it in this way also because when it was very clear, they were just going to be going back to the bloodline stuff.
02:24:37.348 --> 02:24:38.529
[UNKNOWN]: And you were probably the same way.
02:24:40.686 --> 02:24:47.708
[UNKNOWN]: You know, been there done that, how are they going to do it any differently this time to make it at least a little bit different a little bit interesting?
02:24:48.649 --> 02:24:49.829
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is one way to do it.
02:24:49.989 --> 02:24:54.830
[UNKNOWN]: You're introducing a completely different crew and trying to elevate some new stars on the show.
02:24:55.351 --> 02:24:57.231
[UNKNOWN]: That's the right way to use the bloodline.
02:24:57.571 --> 02:25:02.673
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because before you were elevating the different members of the bloodline, but now they're elevated.
02:25:03.923 --> 02:25:06.524
[UNKNOWN]: Right, if already accomplished that, main event J.U.
02:25:06.564 --> 02:25:10.925
[UNKNOWN]: So you may not like it, but like he's obviously, he's in a better position than he was five years ago.
02:25:11.745 --> 02:25:13.345
[UNKNOWN]: So now you don't have to elevate them.
02:25:13.425 --> 02:25:15.206
[UNKNOWN]: You can use them to elevate others.
02:25:16.166 --> 02:25:16.906
[UNKNOWN]: So I like that.
02:25:17.786 --> 02:25:22.647
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought from the Chad Gable Ray Phoenix match on through the end of the show was great.
02:25:22.687 --> 02:25:24.688
[UNKNOWN]: Everything before that I thought was a bore fest.
02:25:24.808 --> 02:25:25.888
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:25:25.968 --> 02:25:28.469
[UNKNOWN]: But that was like the first two hours plus of the show.
02:25:29.129 --> 02:25:32.450
[UNKNOWN]: But from that intercontinental match onto the end of the show, I thought that was great.
02:25:34.370 --> 02:25:49.241
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's a piece of news here from false finish on that white Carmelo Hayes was added to the 946 faction, apparently they are reporting that Royce Keys asked WWE to add Carmelo Hayes to the group at his personal request.
02:25:50.882 --> 02:25:52.804
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I set on my end on Monday.
02:25:54.366 --> 02:26:01.074
[UNKNOWN]: WWE usually waits, waits too long to give us an explanation as to why they do what they do or why someone joins a group.
02:26:01.495 --> 02:26:05.599
[UNKNOWN]: We have yet to hear Jay to park his explanation as to what her relationship is with OTM.
02:26:05.639 --> 02:26:12.568
[UNKNOWN]: If you don't watch NXT, you don't know why she there, why is she in the group, why did she show up, what is her affiliation with these people?
02:26:13.288 --> 02:26:14.370
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't get that done yet.
02:26:15.240 --> 02:26:16.941
[UNKNOWN]: Number two, Cranola Hayes.
02:26:17.741 --> 02:26:26.066
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not really expecting an explanation as of Monday, but coming next Monday, I think we pretty much are older and explanation as to why he's here.
02:26:26.627 --> 02:26:33.871
[UNKNOWN]: Like I would love for them to flush out that little detail or those little details before we actually get deeper into Survivor Series and war games.
02:26:34.371 --> 02:26:35.712
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like we need that, don't you think?
02:26:38.434 --> 02:26:39.975
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I mean, do we need it?
02:26:40.436 --> 02:26:42.217
[UNKNOWN]: Is the angle going to hinge upon it?
02:26:42.317 --> 02:26:42.617
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:26:42.637 --> 02:26:43.638
[UNKNOWN]: Would it be nice to have?
02:26:43.698 --> 02:26:43.978
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:26:44.699 --> 02:26:45.620
[UNKNOWN]: It would be nice to know.
02:26:46.620 --> 02:26:49.863
[UNKNOWN]: I think if you wanted to leave it to the imagination, it's not hard to see why.
02:26:51.659 --> 02:26:55.060
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, but he's built from Boston in their west coast group.
02:26:55.080 --> 02:26:55.360
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
02:26:55.880 --> 02:26:56.120
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
02:26:56.580 --> 02:26:56.920
[UNKNOWN]: So what?
02:26:57.900 --> 02:26:59.021
[UNKNOWN]: Now then I'm built from Boston.
02:26:59.521 --> 02:27:00.481
[UNKNOWN]: He's built from Boston.
02:27:00.661 --> 02:27:01.241
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I said.
02:27:01.281 --> 02:27:02.982
[UNKNOWN]: Carmelow his is built from Boston messages.
02:27:03.042 --> 02:27:03.282
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:27:03.822 --> 02:27:04.182
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:27:04.382 --> 02:27:07.023
[UNKNOWN]: But you know what, uh, it got his illusion price.
02:27:07.083 --> 02:27:08.043
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's Lucien price.
02:27:08.123 --> 02:27:08.543
[UNKNOWN]: One of them is.
02:27:08.583 --> 02:27:09.383
[UNKNOWN]: He's Delaware.
02:27:09.663 --> 02:27:09.843
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:27:10.063 --> 02:27:11.584
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's from Merrill and there's something.
02:27:12.424 --> 02:27:14.504
[UNKNOWN]: So they got people from all over the place.
02:27:14.564 --> 02:27:14.864
[UNKNOWN]: I guess.
02:27:14.884 --> 02:27:15.825
[UNKNOWN]: Where's Jay to Parker from?
02:27:15.845 --> 02:27:15.965
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:27:16.025 --> 02:27:18.105
[UNKNOWN]: East and west coast affiliations.
02:27:18.185 --> 02:27:18.425
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:27:18.445 --> 02:27:18.665
[UNKNOWN]: Fine.
02:27:18.925 --> 02:27:19.225
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
02:27:19.285 --> 02:27:19.546
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:27:19.566 --> 02:27:19.826
[UNKNOWN]: They got a
02:27:22.366 --> 02:27:30.451
[UNKNOWN]: So, no, I don't think that it's not like, well, if we don't get the explanation, then it's going to take something away from the angle.
02:27:31.452 --> 02:27:44.739
[UNKNOWN]: In this case, it would be nice for him because he could talk, he could cut a promo, put the mic in his hand, let him vent his frustrations and explain why, you know, why, mellow why, okay, well let him come out next week, let's say, and say, okay, here's why.
02:27:45.740 --> 02:27:46.821
[UNKNOWN]: Do I think we're going to get it?
02:27:46.921 --> 02:27:47.281
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:27:50.165 --> 02:28:01.754
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe they don't want you to know because maybe they also do plan on adding a new member and they want to keep it vague for the time being, although like I said before, I don't think they need to keep adding more and more people.
02:28:03.915 --> 02:28:10.840
[UNKNOWN]: But I think the angle's going to sink or swim, it's going to succeed or not, just based on how things go in war games.
02:28:11.701 --> 02:28:14.943
[UNKNOWN]: This in a way kind of reminds me of Summerslam in 2010.
02:28:16.642 --> 02:28:19.668
[UNKNOWN]: When the next is hit the scene, big angle.
02:28:19.688 --> 02:28:22.853
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of people make an NWO comparisons, right?
02:28:22.873 --> 02:28:24.256
[UNKNOWN]: Which is probably the first mistake.
02:28:24.972 --> 02:28:29.134
[UNKNOWN]: But they were very excited and it was a very well-done angle.
02:28:29.174 --> 02:28:32.655
[UNKNOWN]: They were trying to elevate this new group of young talents.
02:28:32.735 --> 02:28:39.938
[UNKNOWN]: Wade Barrett and Ryback and Michael Tarver and David O'Tongue and all these their heats later, all these different people.
02:28:41.018 --> 02:28:49.281
[UNKNOWN]: And then they got to Summerslam and this big tag team match and they ran into one very key problem.
02:28:49.441 --> 02:28:50.982
[UNKNOWN]: They ran into Supersina.
02:28:52.200 --> 02:28:55.081
[UNKNOWN]: and John Cena beat them, and that was it.
02:28:56.042 --> 02:28:58.323
[UNKNOWN]: And nobody ever looked at the Nexus the same way again.
02:28:59.503 --> 02:29:10.489
[UNKNOWN]: So my question to you, because I know how I feel about this, is war games a must win for 946.
02:29:10.529 --> 02:29:11.629
[UNKNOWN]: 100, I believe it is.
02:29:11.829 --> 02:29:13.770
[UNKNOWN]: 100% they cannot lose war games.
02:29:14.230 --> 02:29:19.193
[UNKNOWN]: And I, you know what, I'm gonna go as far as to say, I think Royce Key spins Roman Rins, one more games.
02:29:19.967 --> 02:29:21.807
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think that would make a lot of sense.
02:29:22.008 --> 02:29:32.190
[UNKNOWN]: If what I mentioned before is accurate, which is that he represents the guy in this crew who will go after Roman, yeah, like again, OTM's got the tag seen covered.
02:29:32.230 --> 02:29:35.271
[UNKNOWN]: Carmelo could have the the ICC covered at some point.
02:29:35.291 --> 02:29:42.653
[UNKNOWN]: The ICT title, if they want to do Roman and Royce for the title, maybe at the rumble, then I think he should pin Roman raids in Oregon.
02:29:43.433 --> 02:29:44.013
[UNKNOWN]: Makes sense to me.
02:29:45.567 --> 02:30:03.264
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, more excited about work games this year than I have been the previous couple of years with the bloodline being in there against Lesnar and the fucking Cody and punk, I mean, it's just got it's got boring, so like you said, I'm glad that they're offering something different and, you know, Carnolo Hayes a lot of that.
02:30:03.824 --> 02:30:05.805
[UNKNOWN]: was how was he going to be elevated?
02:30:05.825 --> 02:30:07.625
[UNKNOWN]: How was he going to grow as a performer?
02:30:08.045 --> 02:30:09.726
[UNKNOWN]: WWE did the best thing possible.
02:30:10.306 --> 02:30:16.328
[UNKNOWN]: Got him on Raw and put him in a role that I think he's going to absolutely kill it in and he's going to grow as a performer.
02:30:16.348 --> 02:30:27.811
[UNKNOWN]: I think if they kept him the way he was on smack that I don't think that'd be any room for growth and I honestly think he would probably lead to him getting stagnant and WWE losing interest and then one thing leads to another and then he's not with the company anymore.
02:30:28.192 --> 02:30:30.592
[UNKNOWN]: This is going to prolong his his run here and this is
02:30:33.133 --> 02:30:33.933
[UNKNOWN]: Fantastic stuff.
02:30:34.734 --> 02:30:36.934
[UNKNOWN]: So that was the WWE side of things.
02:30:37.875 --> 02:30:45.677
[UNKNOWN]: And we will obviously hopefully find out what happens with the war game stuff as we go into crown jewel season and beyond.
02:30:45.697 --> 02:30:47.478
[UNKNOWN]: So some good stuff there.
02:30:48.058 --> 02:30:48.558
[UNKNOWN]: Dynamite.
02:30:49.539 --> 02:30:53.280
[UNKNOWN]: There is a three hour dynamite slash collision show tomorrow.
02:30:54.000 --> 02:30:57.781
[UNKNOWN]: and we have a pay per view on Saturday and it's wrestle dream.
02:30:58.041 --> 02:31:02.982
[UNKNOWN]: It's being man-advented by clockwork carnage, which is their super gauntlet match.
02:31:03.002 --> 02:31:12.865
[UNKNOWN]: That's a that's a take on I would say iron survivor and a little mix of ass-take warfare and elimination chamber, you know.
02:31:12.885 --> 02:31:18.546
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, it's the casino gauntlet and an ironman match had a baby.
02:31:19.747 --> 02:31:20.767
[UNKNOWN]: This is what it would look like.
02:31:23.673 --> 02:31:28.418
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not really all that and throw the about that, but well, look, I've said this.
02:31:28.938 --> 02:31:31.401
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to judge it until I see it for the first time.
02:31:31.581 --> 02:31:37.987
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, because I remember being very skeptical about the iron survivor and NXT, and that ended up being a lot of fun.
02:31:38.408 --> 02:31:39.969
[UNKNOWN]: To me, this sounds like a clusterfuck.
02:31:40.697 --> 02:31:43.178
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm willing to wait and see how the match plays out.
02:31:43.298 --> 02:31:44.638
[UNKNOWN]: It may end up being a lot of fun.
02:31:44.658 --> 02:31:57.761
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't really change my opinion though that this is just throwing shit at the wall because they didn't have anybody lined up for Will Osprey because they only had take out the week where they did the pack tribute show.
02:31:58.622 --> 02:32:01.102
[UNKNOWN]: They had two weeks to promote this way.
02:32:01.122 --> 02:32:03.323
[UNKNOWN]: Well, two or three weeks, it would have made a difference anyway.
02:32:04.288 --> 02:32:12.035
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the extra we probably wouldn't have mattered that much, but for all intents and purposes, they had two weeks because that week wasn't about promoting wrestle dream or anything else.
02:32:12.956 --> 02:32:14.938
[UNKNOWN]: And so what are you going to do?
02:32:15.138 --> 02:32:16.680
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to try to come up with an idea.
02:32:16.700 --> 02:32:18.822
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to dump a bunch of people in one match.
02:32:19.945 --> 02:32:48.342
[UNKNOWN]: and that's what we've ended up with here because they didn't have anything else on the agenda and now the hope my hope anyway is that coming out of this they'll do something in the match where they can set up the next challenger for him for for full gear so at least the match could be productive in that way and as far as the match itself let's see how it plays out before you know we did decide whether or not it's worth doing again or they should bury it and never speak of it again whether it's clockwork carnage or clockwork garbage
02:32:49.139 --> 02:32:49.359
[UNKNOWN]: sure.
02:32:50.440 --> 02:32:51.821
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, basically.
02:32:52.021 --> 02:32:52.201
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:32:52.301 --> 02:32:53.262
[UNKNOWN]: You had the right idea.
02:32:53.282 --> 02:32:57.905
[UNKNOWN]: Last week when we talked about this, they should have did Ocada and Osprey on this show at the pay per view.
02:32:58.445 --> 02:33:04.870
[UNKNOWN]: But instead there their main problem is we go from all out into obviously we had the tragic loss of pack.
02:33:05.490 --> 02:33:07.592
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think a week would have made a difference.
02:33:07.612 --> 02:33:09.613
[UNKNOWN]: They would be TV, but they came out of all out.
02:33:10.233 --> 02:33:10.714
[UNKNOWN]: We had
02:33:14.217 --> 02:33:32.467
[UNKNOWN]: in the span of a month for four or five weeks it's like how how how how much will not have been not even that we have a main event for the eight we have a main event right now for the AW world championship where we're going to have eight people in this match including the champion right we only know if three people in the match right now.
02:33:33.793 --> 02:33:45.881
[UNKNOWN]: So three days before the pay per view, we're going to find out who the remaining five people are because they have to have qualifying matches tomorrow night to add five more names to this match.
02:33:45.981 --> 02:33:54.967
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's how last minute this all is as far as like we don't even have the full lineup for the main event of their show or less than a week out.
02:33:55.309 --> 02:33:57.811
[UNKNOWN]: And I I said less week on my dynamite review.
02:33:57.831 --> 02:34:00.012
[UNKNOWN]: I did it solo because Jesse had family obligations.
02:34:00.052 --> 02:34:14.421
[UNKNOWN]: I said don't you think that being the paper views going to be on Saturday that the next dynamite we get it's nothing but qualifying matches because we have five other guys to put into this match and low and behold, that's exactly what it is.
02:34:14.721 --> 02:34:16.583
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not even qualifying matches Jason.
02:34:16.683 --> 02:34:20.005
[UNKNOWN]: It is predictable qualifying matches.
02:34:20.045 --> 02:34:21.346
[UNKNOWN]: Let me read to you what Tony
02:34:23.507 --> 02:34:25.949
[UNKNOWN]: Kazuchka Okada is in a qualifying match.
02:34:26.009 --> 02:34:28.151
[UNKNOWN]: He will be going one-on-one with Miron Reed.
02:34:28.591 --> 02:34:31.053
[UNKNOWN]: And apparently this is for the international championship.
02:34:31.413 --> 02:34:40.520
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that's what I was going to point out where I could have bought into the idea that if you wanted to throw one wild card in there, it could have been Miron Reed.
02:34:40.540 --> 02:34:40.900
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe, right?
02:34:40.920 --> 02:34:42.402
[UNKNOWN]: It could have been Miron Reed.
02:34:42.422 --> 02:34:43.923
[UNKNOWN]: It could have been, because Miron Reed is great.
02:34:44.980 --> 02:34:47.043
[UNKNOWN]: But then I saw that it's for the International title.
02:34:47.524 --> 02:34:54.193
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, well, that just went out the fucking window, because my run read is not winning the International title from MoCata, so we already know.
02:34:54.434 --> 02:34:56.056
[UNKNOWN]: Like that one's already pre-ordained.
02:34:56.096 --> 02:34:57.278
[UNKNOWN]: We know how that one is going.
02:34:57.638 --> 02:35:00.623
[UNKNOWN]: And it's the same thing with the other title match, because there's two of them.
02:35:01.115 --> 02:35:06.779
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Darby Allen is going to be defending the TNT championship against head to Sarah.
02:35:06.799 --> 02:35:07.880
[UNKNOWN]: Head to Sarah, man.
02:35:07.900 --> 02:35:09.141
[UNKNOWN]: The what do they call them?
02:35:09.181 --> 02:35:11.423
[UNKNOWN]: The, uh, the magician of Luculee, right?
02:35:11.443 --> 02:35:12.004
[UNKNOWN]: Where do they call it?
02:35:12.024 --> 02:35:12.784
[UNKNOWN]: He does that little fight.
02:35:12.804 --> 02:35:14.425
[UNKNOWN]: Well, isn't he still, isn't he still the CMLL?
02:35:14.445 --> 02:35:15.246
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll say happy.
02:35:15.426 --> 02:35:15.867
[UNKNOWN]: I think so.
02:35:15.887 --> 02:35:15.987
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:35:16.127 --> 02:35:16.267
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:35:16.527 --> 02:35:16.707
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:35:17.308 --> 02:35:22.232
[UNKNOWN]: But again, so the title is on the line and to me that's dead giveaway about what the outcome is going to be.
02:35:22.952 --> 02:35:24.754
[UNKNOWN]: So that's, that's two of them right there.
02:35:25.517 --> 02:35:28.098
[UNKNOWN]: We, and then we, I was going to say, yeah, we have to go ahead.
02:35:28.138 --> 02:35:29.599
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's a festive item call.
02:35:29.759 --> 02:35:32.820
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, to catch the cash to catch the versus Brian Cage.
02:35:33.981 --> 02:35:34.501
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure.
02:35:34.561 --> 02:35:35.722
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's going to be that one.
02:35:35.742 --> 02:35:37.743
[UNKNOWN]: Brian Cage went on social media on Twitter yesterday.
02:35:37.783 --> 02:35:47.887
[UNKNOWN]: And he made a video promo saying that he's heard the murmurs and the whispers about how he doesn't stand the chance and all this other nonsense, bro, you're taking an L tomorrow.
02:35:47.927 --> 02:35:49.848
[UNKNOWN]: That's what that is.
02:35:50.068 --> 02:35:54.110
[UNKNOWN]: To cash to is going in Adam Colpin versus Josh Alexander.
02:35:55.965 --> 02:35:57.287
[UNKNOWN]: Gee, I wonder who's going to win that one.
02:35:57.448 --> 02:36:00.212
[UNKNOWN]: And then this, this one, they could surprise me, honestly.
02:36:00.934 --> 02:36:02.456
[UNKNOWN]: Ricochet versus Ace Austin.
02:36:03.338 --> 02:36:06.463
[UNKNOWN]: If Tony wants to do a surprise, enter into this in this thing.
02:36:06.503 --> 02:36:07.966
[UNKNOWN]: Ace Austin would be it, don't you think?
02:36:09.317 --> 02:36:27.362
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, we just had Osprey and Ricochet two weeks ago and A. Sauston is, he's not going to win the gauntlet, obviously, but to put him in there and have that one got that one surprise and then put that one guy in there who you think doesn't have a chance, but yeah, maybe he runs wild and racks up a bunch of falls and all that.
02:36:27.402 --> 02:36:30.203
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, I mean, I won't say that he's got no chance.
02:36:31.107 --> 02:36:37.737
[UNKNOWN]: But it does seem like when you look at all five of these matches, it's a pretty safe bet, you know, who's going over in each of these matches?
02:36:37.817 --> 02:36:38.599
[UNKNOWN]: Why does he do this?
02:36:39.160 --> 02:36:41.223
[UNKNOWN]: Why is it so blatantly predictable?
02:36:42.649 --> 02:36:43.670
[UNKNOWN]: Does he know how to have any fun?
02:36:43.690 --> 02:36:45.591
[UNKNOWN]: Or does he just not give it to you?
02:36:45.611 --> 02:36:48.652
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think he's looking at this paper view made of it.
02:36:48.672 --> 02:36:51.794
[UNKNOWN]: And he wants to load it up with as many big names in this match as possible.
02:36:51.894 --> 02:36:58.738
[UNKNOWN]: So it's very attractive to think of a match that has Ocata and Asprey and Darby and Copeland.
02:36:58.818 --> 02:37:01.459
[UNKNOWN]: And, right, all of these different people.
02:37:01.499 --> 02:37:04.581
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I get wanting to have big names in there.
02:37:04.801 --> 02:37:06.722
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you the biggest disappointment in this.
02:37:06.742 --> 02:37:07.863
[UNKNOWN]: This is what I said on my end.
02:37:09.192 --> 02:37:15.196
[UNKNOWN]: I was looking at these qualifying matches, and I'm looking at the names, and I'm like, where the fuck is Tomasso Champa?
02:37:15.396 --> 02:37:15.636
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:37:15.797 --> 02:37:17.598
[UNKNOWN]: He's on the show, but he's not in the qualifying match.
02:37:18.278 --> 02:37:20.099
[UNKNOWN]: Why is he not in the qualifying match?
02:37:20.119 --> 02:37:22.801
[UNKNOWN]: Why is he not a part of this match at the pay per view?
02:37:23.001 --> 02:37:23.382
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:37:23.462 --> 02:37:34.369
[UNKNOWN]: Because I'm looking at this, and I said this last week, I think you must, you must must, must, must have a spot in this match where Will Osprey gets picked.
02:37:35.686 --> 02:37:37.868
[UNKNOWN]: And so the question is, who do they give that spot to?
02:37:37.908 --> 02:37:41.510
[UNKNOWN]: Because whoever it is to me, that's gonna be your number one contender going into full gear.
02:37:42.271 --> 02:37:43.892
[UNKNOWN]: I would have given that spot to Champa.
02:37:44.312 --> 02:37:44.512
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah?
02:37:45.473 --> 02:37:49.696
[UNKNOWN]: But I think what they're doing here, this is my theory.
02:37:51.718 --> 02:37:54.580
[UNKNOWN]: He lost to John Moxley earlier this year at Dynastee.
02:37:55.761 --> 02:37:57.462
[UNKNOWN]: Finally, got his win back at all out.
02:37:58.722 --> 02:38:05.867
[UNKNOWN]: He beat Ocata in France last week and they really harped on how 11 of their 13 matches, Ocata beat his ass.
02:38:06.127 --> 02:38:08.309
[UNKNOWN]: And so he got a big win here over Ocata.
02:38:09.329 --> 02:38:13.092
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm looking at all of these names that are very likely going to qualify and get in.
02:38:14.053 --> 02:38:22.439
[UNKNOWN]: The one guy who I think is going to get in, who has never been beaten by Will Osprey, but he's got to win over him, is Darby Allen.
02:38:23.379 --> 02:38:26.482
[UNKNOWN]: Because Darby Allen beat him in the C2 a couple of years ago.
02:38:27.412 --> 02:38:37.597
[UNKNOWN]: And what I think is going to happen here, my prediction, my theory, Darby is going to be the one to pin him in this match, and it's going to be Osprey and Darby at full gear for the belt.
02:38:38.597 --> 02:38:39.758
[UNKNOWN]: That's where I think this is going.
02:38:41.119 --> 02:38:43.179
[UNKNOWN]: That doesn't sound interesting to me whatsoever.
02:38:43.199 --> 02:38:47.662
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, the Darby beat Will Osprey the last time they wrestled right.
02:38:47.722 --> 02:38:48.842
[UNKNOWN]: I think that, I think it was a year ago.
02:38:48.902 --> 02:38:51.183
[UNKNOWN]: On Donovan, right?
02:38:51.243 --> 02:38:52.784
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever, I think it would have to be that of my day.
02:38:52.804 --> 02:38:54.045
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was in the continental class.
02:38:54.065 --> 02:38:54.825
[UNKNOWN]: Again, Darby beat him.
02:38:56.187 --> 02:38:58.048
[UNKNOWN]: So I believe that was the only match they ever had.
02:38:58.528 --> 02:39:04.011
[UNKNOWN]: We're booking Will Osprey's World title run for him to get victories over everybody that has previously beat him.
02:39:04.051 --> 02:39:05.931
[UNKNOWN]: Is that the thing we're going?
02:39:06.132 --> 02:39:07.092
[UNKNOWN]: It seems that way.
02:39:07.352 --> 02:39:08.553
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it seems that way to me.
02:39:08.613 --> 02:39:13.375
[UNKNOWN]: But man, like the idea of doing as great as that match was with Champa and Okada, no Champa lost.
02:39:14.668 --> 02:39:33.385
[UNKNOWN]: Again, all he needs to do is pin Osprey once in that match on Saturday and you set it up for what would be a fantastic match at full gear with him and I know it doesn't fit the story of that is what's going on here where he's got to win over him in the past, but I mean, would you buy into an Osprey champ, a title match at full gear?
02:39:33.425 --> 02:39:34.066
[UNKNOWN]: Of course I would.
02:39:34.706 --> 02:39:35.227
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
02:39:35.907 --> 02:39:37.289
[UNKNOWN]: He's not even in the qualifiers.
02:39:38.091 --> 02:39:38.892
[UNKNOWN]: It blows my mind.
02:39:39.312 --> 02:39:41.914
[UNKNOWN]: Even if you don't do that with him, how is he not in this match?
02:39:42.415 --> 02:39:42.815
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:39:43.836 --> 02:39:45.777
[UNKNOWN]: Why does that of Copeland need to be in here?
02:39:45.877 --> 02:39:47.739
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't champ a qualifying being here?
02:39:47.919 --> 02:39:49.961
[UNKNOWN]: Well, champ is on the show tomorrow.
02:39:50.041 --> 02:39:55.846
[UNKNOWN]: It's Osprey and Andrade, the United Empire versus Samoa Joe and Tomasso Champ and it's a team match.
02:39:56.866 --> 02:39:59.909
[UNKNOWN]: I guess old school black and gold versus Will Osprey and Andrade.
02:40:00.109 --> 02:40:02.011
[UNKNOWN]: I'd three members of old school black and gold and not match.
02:40:02.271 --> 02:40:03.352
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why champ is not there.
02:40:04.083 --> 02:40:22.558
[UNKNOWN]: I at first glance, you know, I'd say Copeland wins the fucking the the gauntlet or the clockwork conjure we get Copeland versus versus Osprey, but then again, we want to see Adam Copeland and all the world championship match after what we had to endure him amongstly, no, or to cash to, maybe to cash to wins it, but he beat to cash to twice.
02:40:23.745 --> 02:40:25.688
[UNKNOWN]: but it's the best match at everything that's there.
02:40:25.988 --> 02:40:27.510
[UNKNOWN]: We can't do what we just did it.
02:40:27.930 --> 02:40:32.316
[UNKNOWN]: Darby is blah, Copeland blah, Ricochet, we just saw.
02:40:32.616 --> 02:40:34.118
[UNKNOWN]: Speedball, no thank you.
02:40:35.311 --> 02:40:37.312
[UNKNOWN]: So my would Joe we saw that double or nothing.
02:40:37.413 --> 02:40:39.594
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's not really a lot to go on here.
02:40:40.455 --> 02:40:48.080
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Joe shows in there and and Osprey beat Joe and the lead up to him, you know, ultimately winning the Owen and winning the title.
02:40:49.081 --> 02:40:51.102
[UNKNOWN]: But he's got two wins over to Keshaw already.
02:40:51.202 --> 02:40:52.963
[UNKNOWN]: So there's not a whole lot of drama there.
02:40:53.684 --> 02:40:55.545
[UNKNOWN]: To Keshaw hasn't even been around since Wembley.
02:40:55.565 --> 02:40:57.927
[UNKNOWN]: This is, I think, his first match since Wembley.
02:40:58.787 --> 02:41:01.910
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, let's say he, he gets a fall over Osprey and they do that match.
02:41:02.850 --> 02:41:06.772
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the baby face against baby face, the promos aren't going to be great.
02:41:07.973 --> 02:41:08.853
[UNKNOWN]: It'd be great match.
02:41:08.893 --> 02:41:09.494
[UNKNOWN]: Don't get me wrong.
02:41:09.534 --> 02:41:10.374
[UNKNOWN]: I like to catch them.
02:41:10.394 --> 02:41:14.676
[UNKNOWN]: But I just feel like you're going to get more mileage out of Champa and Osprey.
02:41:14.696 --> 02:41:15.857
[UNKNOWN]: If you would have gone in that direction.
02:41:17.741 --> 02:41:18.141
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:41:18.321 --> 02:41:23.823
[UNKNOWN]: Champa would have been really good, but he's in that tag team match with Joe Andrade and Osprey.
02:41:23.863 --> 02:41:28.185
[UNKNOWN]: Mercedes and divine dominion will team up again against the triangle of madness.
02:41:28.825 --> 02:41:32.446
[UNKNOWN]: That just builds Mercedes and Tecla for the full for the Russell Dream Pay Preview.
02:41:32.966 --> 02:41:35.627
[UNKNOWN]: Death Rogers versus Don Callis family again.
02:41:37.188 --> 02:41:40.529
[UNKNOWN]: Again, this is your blood and guts match more than likely.
02:41:41.449 --> 02:41:44.430
[UNKNOWN]: And then Brip Baker and Persephone team up against Danny Luna and
02:41:49.055 --> 02:41:56.181
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, because, yeah, because, um, oh gosh, uh, his daily looms getting a, uh, oh, she actually rushed.
02:41:56.201 --> 02:41:57.642
[UNKNOWN]: She rushed to Persephone at the paper of you, yeah.
02:41:58.224 --> 02:42:09.809
[UNKNOWN]: she did, but I was going to say usually it's high on in my a world might might as that hurt though, so that might be why Danny Luna is getting that spot, but yeah, so look, there's a lot going on right now.
02:42:09.829 --> 02:42:24.455
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you've noticed over the last few days, um, with new Japan and A. W. All of a sudden, it has exploded out of nowhere, and they have set up at least three or four different A. W. matches for the Tokyo dump.
02:42:25.660 --> 02:42:30.366
[UNKNOWN]: So they're already, I mean, they're already planning Russell Russell kingdom mages, huh?
02:42:30.847 --> 02:42:31.127
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:42:31.728 --> 02:42:33.590
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is around that time of year where they do.
02:42:33.610 --> 02:42:34.972
[UNKNOWN]: They just had to show this past week.
02:42:34.992 --> 02:42:37.916
[UNKNOWN]: They're building to their power struggle show on November 3rd.
02:42:37.936 --> 02:42:42.441
[UNKNOWN]: And that's where things are officially probably going to be set up for for Russell kingdom.
02:42:43.217 --> 02:42:45.539
[UNKNOWN]: But like they had their king of pro wrestling show this week.
02:42:46.099 --> 02:42:52.324
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, Will Osprey and Calam Numen were almost like at war with each other.
02:42:53.064 --> 02:42:54.666
[UNKNOWN]: Things are breaking down between those two.
02:42:54.686 --> 02:42:59.069
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably going to be a wrestle kingdom match for the AEW title if I had a venture guess.
02:42:59.950 --> 02:43:03.893
[UNKNOWN]: But they're going to be wrestling as partners in a tag team title match on November 3rd.
02:43:03.913 --> 02:43:07.395
[UNKNOWN]: And my guess is things go south and we get the announcement after that.
02:43:08.156 --> 02:43:09.257
[UNKNOWN]: Kenny Omega showed up.
02:43:10.327 --> 02:43:21.272
[UNKNOWN]: And Kenny Omega put down their world champion, Yota Suji, and said, I want to shout out the IWGP bill, but I understand I'm not really like the number one contender.
02:43:21.312 --> 02:43:22.513
[UNKNOWN]: So here's what I propose.
02:43:23.353 --> 02:43:28.056
[UNKNOWN]: And for November third, he proposed a triple threat with him, Suji, and one other person.
02:43:28.696 --> 02:43:31.917
[UNKNOWN]: And if he wins, then he would get a title match or wrestle kingdom.
02:43:31.937 --> 02:43:36.620
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably your wrestle kingdom made of Venetatokyo, don't Kenny Omega, good going for the IWGP belt.
02:43:38.239 --> 02:43:47.506
[UNKNOWN]: John Moxley sent a video in and he's going to be in a tag team match on November 3rd we're probably getting him in Schingo to Caggy at the Tokyo Dome.
02:43:48.667 --> 02:43:51.189
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and you're mentioning November 3rd.
02:43:51.269 --> 02:43:54.031
[UNKNOWN]: You just said Osprey is in a tag team match on November 3rd.
02:43:54.311 --> 02:43:55.993
[UNKNOWN]: With Calam Newman, you're also challenging.
02:43:56.393 --> 02:43:56.613
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:43:56.993 --> 02:43:58.274
[UNKNOWN]: Moxley's in a tag match as well.
02:43:58.334 --> 02:43:59.696
[UNKNOWN]: But blood and guts is November 4th.
02:44:00.693 --> 02:44:03.114
[UNKNOWN]: So you meet the tell me blood and guts with that show.
02:44:03.654 --> 02:44:04.494
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, let me see here.
02:44:04.514 --> 02:44:05.915
[UNKNOWN]: Powers where is Paris.
02:44:05.975 --> 02:44:09.556
[UNKNOWN]: So potentially blood and guts could be without will all spray and John Moxley.
02:44:10.876 --> 02:44:18.699
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let's see, because these matches were just made official power struggle, 2026 is in Hiroshima, November 3rd.
02:44:19.719 --> 02:44:26.201
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that is scheduling conflict for Tony Con that I don't know how the fuck that you're booking blood and guts in Jacksonville.
02:44:26.221 --> 02:44:28.222
[UNKNOWN]: And you don't have your two biggest stars on the fucking show.
02:44:29.800 --> 02:44:53.614
[UNKNOWN]: You don't John Moxley, a part of the death rotters in a blood and guts matching as the donk house family right right now on the power struggle show john moxley is wrestling teaming with wheeler you to uh... can you make it is wrestling will not sprays wrestling gave kid is wrestling yet those are the matches so far that are set up for no number third gave kid is on that show two yes so who's going to be a blood and got we have to watch a blood and guts match with fucking wheeler you to
02:44:54.672 --> 02:44:56.234
[UNKNOWN]: And Danny will use it on that show, too.
02:44:56.434 --> 02:44:57.535
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's teaming with Moxley.
02:44:57.555 --> 02:44:57.855
[UNKNOWN]: Moxley.
02:44:57.875 --> 02:44:58.876
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I got your match.
02:44:59.236 --> 02:45:00.558
[UNKNOWN]: Again, Shingo and Jeff Cobb.
02:45:00.678 --> 02:45:01.378
[UNKNOWN]: I don't fucking know.
02:45:01.819 --> 02:45:04.061
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they're going to be on the red eye back to the US.
02:45:04.121 --> 02:45:04.882
[UNKNOWN]: I don't fucking know.
02:45:05.002 --> 02:45:05.943
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to have to, right?
02:45:06.703 --> 02:45:08.025
[UNKNOWN]: They could probably make it back in time.
02:45:08.932 --> 02:45:09.853
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, man.
02:45:10.153 --> 02:45:10.634
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:45:10.794 --> 02:45:13.396
[UNKNOWN]: That's fucking a close, holy shit.
02:45:14.057 --> 02:45:19.522
[UNKNOWN]: So let me, let me ask you, what, why does this show feel more like a forbidden door than forbidden door feels like forbidden door?
02:45:19.562 --> 02:45:21.544
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's exactly what it feels like.
02:45:21.564 --> 02:45:24.147
[UNKNOWN]: It feels like this is really more of a forbidden door.
02:45:24.227 --> 02:45:27.970
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think what this is gonna end up being is, and by the way, I didn't even mention M.J.F.
02:45:28.110 --> 02:45:31.113
[UNKNOWN]: M.J.F is very likely wrestling on the Tokyo dome as well.
02:45:31.173 --> 02:45:32.194
[UNKNOWN]: He sent the video in.
02:45:33.035 --> 02:45:36.659
[UNKNOWN]: He's, uh, there's, there's, there's another wrestler there at Oywoa who's one of their young studs.
02:45:36.679 --> 02:45:37.599
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to build around.
02:45:37.619 --> 02:45:40.502
[UNKNOWN]: He's the guy who finishes people off with a headlock takeover.
02:45:41.103 --> 02:45:43.765
[UNKNOWN]: So the whole thing is MJF said, I'm going to beat you with a head.
02:45:43.845 --> 02:45:47.449
[UNKNOWN]: I got the better headlock takeover and I'm going to put my triple B on the line.
02:45:48.069 --> 02:45:50.952
[UNKNOWN]: I'll even put my triple B up for grabs here when we wrestle each other.
02:45:51.713 --> 02:45:54.555
[UNKNOWN]: And they have an announcement that's going to happen, but it stands to reason.
02:45:54.575 --> 02:45:56.077
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably a Tokyo don't match.
02:45:56.955 --> 02:46:01.976
[UNKNOWN]: And then I didn't even mention Adam Copeland because Copeland is talked about wanting to wrestle at the Tokyo dump.
02:46:02.096 --> 02:46:03.516
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like it's now or never.
02:46:03.737 --> 02:46:03.897
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:46:04.257 --> 02:46:06.197
[UNKNOWN]: So he may end up with a match on that show too.
02:46:06.237 --> 02:46:13.879
[UNKNOWN]: So it feels like the theme for this January 4th show is going to be AEW against New Japan.
02:46:14.039 --> 02:46:16.359
[UNKNOWN]: And this is going to be a way for a lot of the New Japan guys.
02:46:17.459 --> 02:46:23.841
[UNKNOWN]: You would hope for their sake to get some of those fucking wins back because this has been so one-sided.
02:46:24.775 --> 02:46:34.103
[UNKNOWN]: It has been so heavily weighted towards AEW, every time we have this, that at some point the new Japan guys have to get something, right?
02:46:34.283 --> 02:46:40.028
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's Suji would beat Kenny and MJF might lose his, like you got to give them something at some point.
02:46:40.809 --> 02:46:42.550
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even concerned about who wins and who loses.
02:46:42.610 --> 02:46:44.652
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just concerned about why we have for Bitendore.
02:46:45.433 --> 02:46:47.034
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he gets rid of it next year.
02:46:47.354 --> 02:46:47.915
[UNKNOWN]: What's the point?
02:46:49.514 --> 02:46:52.436
[UNKNOWN]: What why isn't this working like this here in America?
02:46:52.456 --> 02:46:57.380
[UNKNOWN]: Why do we have to go watch new Japan to see all this stuff play out for for for for the forbidden door?
02:46:58.601 --> 02:47:05.847
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you they don't you they would work better the opposite way of new Japan kind of piggybacks of AEW in the United States to get more traction for new Japan?
02:47:07.128 --> 02:47:12.772
[UNKNOWN]: What does AEW need to work for Russell kingdom for what the fuck did he Russell get they can sell because kingdom anyway regardless it's Russell kingdom
02:47:13.233 --> 02:47:15.634
[UNKNOWN]: Well, no, they're not it doesn't work that way.
02:47:15.775 --> 02:47:17.676
[UNKNOWN]: You need to have a you need to have a good card.
02:47:17.696 --> 02:47:21.638
[UNKNOWN]: There have been some wrestled kingdoms where they'll have a rock Paul called it in a match.
02:47:21.698 --> 02:47:24.300
[UNKNOWN]: It'll sell a couple of thousand tickets get MJF on the show.
02:47:24.320 --> 02:47:28.462
[UNKNOWN]: You don't need the fucking roster over there Well, you kind of do that.
02:47:28.482 --> 02:47:29.823
[UNKNOWN]: They're in a rebuilding mode right now.
02:47:29.863 --> 02:47:37.807
[UNKNOWN]: You wouldn't know, but I actually had it ton of how she had his retirement match with Ocata in January And they and they legitimately move like 50,000 plots.
02:47:37.868 --> 02:47:40.149
[UNKNOWN]: It was the biggest Tokyo dome crowd in the course.
02:47:40.209 --> 02:47:41.910
[UNKNOWN]: It's a memorable moment once in a lifetime, yeah
02:47:42.170 --> 02:47:44.153
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they don't have these guys anymore, dude.
02:47:44.193 --> 02:47:49.740
[UNKNOWN]: Like Tana Hashis retired, and Naito was gone, and he's aged out, and think of all the guys that A.W.
02:47:49.820 --> 02:47:56.268
[UNKNOWN]: signed from New Japan, because they were leaving New Japan, Osprey, David Finley, J.
02:47:56.348 --> 02:48:00.133
[UNKNOWN]: White, Okada, Ibushi, right, on and on.
02:48:00.874 --> 02:48:02.497
[UNKNOWN]: So they're in a rebuilding phase right now.
02:48:02.517 --> 02:48:04.480
[UNKNOWN]: These guys are not, they're not very yet.
02:48:05.121 --> 02:48:07.805
[UNKNOWN]: So I think they do need that extra support.
02:48:08.366 --> 02:48:12.632
[UNKNOWN]: And it's going to help getting Kenny and Moxley and MJF and all these people on the show.
02:48:12.953 --> 02:48:13.513
[UNKNOWN]: And you know what?
02:48:13.734 --> 02:48:14.835
[UNKNOWN]: It's about fucking time.
02:48:15.860 --> 02:48:37.039
[UNKNOWN]: because it just feels like Tony Con always gets what he wants and it's always like more often than not it feels like the AW crew goes over and maybe it'll work that way again this time they'll put the belt on Kenny I don't know but like it just feels to me like this is a great opportunity for New Japan to be like okay you know what we're trying to get these guys over here we could really use some some some rub and some help
02:48:37.760 --> 02:48:38.701
[UNKNOWN]: and give them some wins.
02:48:39.022 --> 02:48:39.903
[UNKNOWN]: That's what this feels like.
02:48:40.363 --> 02:48:41.024
[UNKNOWN]: And you need that.
02:48:41.044 --> 02:48:48.874
[UNKNOWN]: If you're going to have a partnership with somebody, you can't be like WWE and TNA, NXT and TNA, or again, even there, it feels very one-sided.
02:48:49.815 --> 02:48:53.179
[UNKNOWN]: Tony did really raid them and just leave them with fucking nothing.
02:48:53.420 --> 02:48:53.640
[UNKNOWN]: So.
02:48:54.716 --> 02:48:55.136
[UNKNOWN]: It's time.
02:48:55.196 --> 02:48:55.416
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:48:55.777 --> 02:48:57.077
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why they have to rebuild.
02:48:57.117 --> 02:49:00.119
[UNKNOWN]: They have suji and oi one and these different people.
02:49:01.039 --> 02:49:02.420
[UNKNOWN]: They need to get them over.
02:49:02.560 --> 02:49:05.481
[UNKNOWN]: So they could be the next Hanashi and they could be the next Ocada.
02:49:05.962 --> 02:49:07.202
[UNKNOWN]: But they're in the middle of doing that.
02:49:07.222 --> 02:49:09.383
[UNKNOWN]: They're not, they're not like big draws yet.
02:49:09.864 --> 02:49:10.744
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully they'll get there.
02:49:10.784 --> 02:49:13.425
[UNKNOWN]: But like, it doesn't work that way.
02:49:13.586 --> 02:49:15.486
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's Russell King to know sell out the top.
02:49:15.527 --> 02:49:20.069
[UNKNOWN]: This is not arena Mexico where like CMLL puts 16,000 people and they're every single week.
02:49:20.649 --> 02:49:22.010
[UNKNOWN]: They need a good card or
02:49:25.757 --> 02:49:31.202
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's that's the development over in a w will we get any of that story bleeding over to dynamite.
02:49:31.282 --> 02:49:35.687
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know I don't know who's in the blood and guts match this year.
02:49:35.747 --> 02:49:36.548
[UNKNOWN]: I don't fucking know.
02:49:37.749 --> 02:49:40.992
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, it almost has to be the death writers because who else would it be?
02:49:41.152 --> 02:49:46.217
[UNKNOWN]: But they're they're going to have to haul ass, you know, back to the U.S. And hopefully there's no flight delays.
02:49:46.497 --> 02:49:49.140
[UNKNOWN]: No, but otherwise they're going to be screwed.
02:49:50.523 --> 02:49:52.305
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, Mark Davis and Wardlow.
02:49:52.345 --> 02:49:54.306
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the dark house family is more than loaded.
02:49:54.346 --> 02:49:57.929
[UNKNOWN]: But the death rod is moxley and Gabe Katerl over there and Danny Garcia.
02:49:58.009 --> 02:49:59.891
[UNKNOWN]: And you do those over, I mean, what the fuck?
02:49:59.931 --> 02:50:01.252
[UNKNOWN]: That's like half of the group.
02:50:01.272 --> 02:50:03.955
[UNKNOWN]: That's a party with Claudio and Garcia.
02:50:04.295 --> 02:50:04.695
[UNKNOWN]: And Marina.
02:50:05.936 --> 02:50:06.116
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:50:06.657 --> 02:50:08.619
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they'll add some new death roders in the next week.
02:50:08.639 --> 02:50:09.379
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe, I don't know.
02:50:09.439 --> 02:50:14.584
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe drag, and it becomes a death rider shameless becomes a death rider.
02:50:14.704 --> 02:50:15.104
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe.
02:50:15.925 --> 02:50:16.746
[UNKNOWN]: We could see that.
02:50:17.266 --> 02:50:18.087
[UNKNOWN]: Shameless and sassar.
02:50:18.994 --> 02:50:21.154
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys very much for all of your support here.
02:50:21.214 --> 02:50:27.236
[UNKNOWN]: We were upwards towards 2400 in here on a Tuesday and I thank you guys very much.
02:50:27.276 --> 02:50:28.676
[UNKNOWN]: We're sitting at 7050 likes.
02:50:28.756 --> 02:50:31.796
[UNKNOWN]: I'd love to get that to as close to a thousand as possible.
02:50:32.217 --> 02:50:37.458
[UNKNOWN]: So if you guys want to do that, it is always appreciated super chats are open.
02:50:37.478 --> 02:50:45.239
[UNKNOWN]: We're actually going to get into them right now and then we will bid you guys for a while on the Tuesday night.
02:50:46.517 --> 02:51:12.507
[UNKNOWN]: you guys want to follow Jason everything you you're going to need for him is going to be linked down below in the description and please make sure you guys go find him on crown should be up a have you been not a yes yes there was a a technical hangup on the um like the dedicated on crown feed the show is up right now on the aerial hellwani show feed and uh they're working on it on the other feed so yes the show has has gone up in the last hour or so
02:51:13.213 --> 02:51:13.553
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
02:51:13.874 --> 02:51:22.982
[UNKNOWN]: So after this go check that out and then as always House of Glory just hit a hundred thousand subscribers our last show Salvation up now
02:51:24.009 --> 02:51:25.590
[UNKNOWN]: On the YouTube channel, don't check that out.
02:51:25.651 --> 02:51:32.436
[UNKNOWN]: Champa Charles Mason and that great mixed egg team match with Shaatzi and Leo Rushvers is Alina and Tommy End.
02:51:32.897 --> 02:51:41.064
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and a great battle as well, that the motor city machine guns were involved in as well with Miracle Generation.
02:51:41.104 --> 02:51:43.206
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that mixed egg team match, by the way, is over.
02:51:43.426 --> 02:51:44.587
[UNKNOWN]: I believe 100,000 views now.
02:51:46.416 --> 02:51:48.521
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not surprised, I mean, it was a first.
02:51:48.762 --> 02:51:54.636
[UNKNOWN]: I believe again, it was the first time ever that Tommy Endon's Alina were together as a tag team.
02:51:55.676 --> 02:51:57.637
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, and it might be the same for Shotsi and Leo.
02:51:58.258 --> 02:52:07.383
[UNKNOWN]: So that was in many ways a first time ever in a lot of different ways and it's just too very Very dark very kind of bizarre teams.
02:52:07.663 --> 02:52:08.464
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's like each other.
02:52:08.664 --> 02:52:13.407
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, go check that stuff fuck guys good stuff over there I'm Michael Kraus, $2 super shadow T.S.
02:52:13.427 --> 02:52:15.528
[UNKNOWN]: Taproom T and T all gas no breaks with it.
02:52:15.768 --> 02:52:23.073
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah Nike Michael is always brother Tone with the two rock on my friend Darth
02:52:23.815 --> 02:52:33.621
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the one I deny we need the one who defeated the ruler, Dante Chen did Dante Chen have a victory over Albofemi.
02:52:33.941 --> 02:52:34.681
[UNKNOWN]: There's no way.
02:52:36.022 --> 02:52:36.603
[UNKNOWN]: No way.
02:52:36.743 --> 02:52:38.444
[UNKNOWN]: It's even with, I don't even think he's with the company.
02:52:38.504 --> 02:52:39.544
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's gone now.
02:52:39.564 --> 02:52:41.285
[UNKNOWN]: There's no way he ever beat Albofemi.
02:52:41.746 --> 02:52:42.326
[UNKNOWN]: Get out of here.
02:52:43.447 --> 02:52:48.850
[UNKNOWN]: Caden with the one I deny, just as Faroxy and Braumbreaker F the Dufus son and law triple it.
02:52:51.613 --> 02:52:54.534
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, he did beat over for me when was that?
02:52:54.554 --> 02:52:56.035
[UNKNOWN]: I had to be like three years ago, right?
02:52:56.455 --> 02:52:57.196
[UNKNOWN]: four years ago.
02:52:57.296 --> 02:53:02.198
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god Cage match only gave it a 3.5 rating.
02:53:02.438 --> 02:53:02.938
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
02:53:03.399 --> 02:53:04.079
[UNKNOWN]: I got it.
02:53:04.119 --> 02:53:08.021
[UNKNOWN]: You know, let me let me read some of this here Because they have some reviews.
02:53:08.241 --> 02:53:09.622
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah under the match.
02:53:09.642 --> 02:53:14.464
[UNKNOWN]: This will be interesting Let's see here this person gave the match a 3.0
02:53:18.188 --> 02:53:28.936
[UNKNOWN]: Obofemi became a real phenomenon, one of the best homegrown stars in recent times, so this was the worst match in his short career.
02:53:30.517 --> 02:53:37.702
[UNKNOWN]: And this person says I know this was one of Obo's first ever matches and he would evolve way more, but this squash was just squash.
02:53:39.203 --> 02:53:40.904
[UNKNOWN]: He got squash by Dante Chen.
02:53:42.300 --> 02:53:52.564
[UNKNOWN]: This squash was just bad, with all the in-ring work that both he and Shen mostly did was just a massive bear hug and Shen outsmarting him to get the win.
02:53:53.304 --> 02:53:59.567
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so maybe it was Obadominating and then he just got out outsmarted at the end, maybe I guess.
02:54:00.547 --> 02:54:10.931
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just blown away that he lost the fucking downtake Shen that I hit two matches You see the other match here Okay the other match was two years ago and in this one
02:54:12.520 --> 02:54:19.821
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, oh, but beat him so you got his revenge back On both matches on main event by the way.
02:54:20.422 --> 02:54:20.642
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:54:21.562 --> 02:54:24.882
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel like I need to go See what those are all about.
02:54:24.902 --> 02:54:32.444
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't I didn't know that whatsoever, but thank you for the fun fact there Hardcore Kevin with the fight-out see which I all right boys who should join nine for six next?
02:54:32.564 --> 02:54:38.485
[UNKNOWN]: Omas Otis and Sozawa or Denazen also a question of the day who goons the most?
02:54:41.288 --> 02:54:44.830
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I think this guy ruins the most over-over-staffin'y every week.
02:54:45.130 --> 02:54:46.570
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay, well... And Lola.
02:54:47.571 --> 02:54:48.431
[UNKNOWN]: Now Lola's alright.
02:54:48.451 --> 02:54:51.633
[UNKNOWN]: I... Alright.
02:54:52.053 --> 02:54:52.773
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's alright.
02:54:53.433 --> 02:54:54.974
[UNKNOWN]: You gotta see where she shakes her hips out there.
02:54:55.114 --> 02:54:55.955
[UNKNOWN]: I-I see it.
02:54:56.055 --> 02:54:56.535
[UNKNOWN]: She's just alright.
02:54:56.555 --> 02:54:57.555
[UNKNOWN]: She's just alright.
02:54:57.715 --> 02:54:58.336
[UNKNOWN]: Is she alright?
02:54:59.676 --> 02:55:00.877
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not gonna go over Lola.
02:55:01.417 --> 02:55:02.697
[UNKNOWN]: I do my gooning in private.
02:55:03.018 --> 02:55:03.358
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:55:05.059 --> 02:55:05.999
[UNKNOWN]: Blake Montrose and all the way.
02:55:06.938 --> 02:55:35.171
[UNKNOWN]: definite garner uh... uh... who joins nine four sex uh... nobody i think jason uh... said it best i think adding any more people even though it's fun to kind of think uh... anymore would just make it feel overcrowded uh... give me back shots solomots with one i did not jd would you let me hug you in public no no jump uh... fit a fist bump maybe hug now
02:55:36.865 --> 02:56:03.381
[UNKNOWN]: uh... boss more jacks if one i didn't i was reading earlier that roizki's lobbied from melt yet week we talked about that before uh... to be part of nine four six not sure if it's true what are your early rumble predictions not rocksy over all but for sure i think that's the end and then depending i guess when she comes back rea now you think she'll be back before us a pollusa or no i think it might be it might be cut in the close okay
02:56:04.742 --> 02:56:10.463
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we'll see Mike Santani with a 20 and Super Jack guys have a great fucking night.
02:56:10.483 --> 02:56:16.204
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for everything You do I'm at the Jonas Brothers concert drink in a 25-dollar beer out of a plastic cup.
02:56:16.684 --> 02:56:22.586
[UNKNOWN]: That sounds fucking awful Instead of my Evan Williams 1793 wish me luck everyone.
02:56:22.606 --> 02:56:25.986
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be listening to you guys So Mike is listening to us.
02:56:26.286 --> 02:56:34.488
[UNKNOWN]: This was at 737 the concert might be over now should be four hours later He hopefully was listening to us while the Jonas Brothers took the stage
02:56:36.809 --> 02:56:44.552
[UNKNOWN]: I think I lost a little respect for everybody involved here basically, but I hope you enjoyed it.
02:56:44.572 --> 02:56:45.972
[UNKNOWN]: I hope you enjoyed the concert.
02:56:46.733 --> 02:56:47.693
[UNKNOWN]: Twenty-futile beer man.
02:56:48.593 --> 02:56:49.934
[UNKNOWN]: Man those prices are getting ridiculous.
02:56:50.614 --> 02:56:52.055
[UNKNOWN]: For a Budweiser a course light.
02:56:52.575 --> 02:56:54.395
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully it was something decent like a Madelo.
02:56:56.596 --> 02:57:00.738
[UNKNOWN]: Michelle the Fatal Seabajad does 946 kind of remind you of the nation of domination.
02:57:01.745 --> 02:57:04.706
[UNKNOWN]: If so, who will take the spot that I want hard had in that group?
02:57:04.726 --> 02:57:05.446
[UNKNOWN]: Both he has for life.
02:57:06.926 --> 02:57:08.327
[UNKNOWN]: Does it remind me of the nation?
02:57:08.487 --> 02:57:08.647
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:57:09.267 --> 02:57:09.447
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:57:09.687 --> 02:57:10.087
[UNKNOWN]: It does not.
02:57:10.888 --> 02:57:11.868
[UNKNOWN]: Not it.
02:57:11.888 --> 02:57:13.448
[UNKNOWN]: The thought never even crossed my mind.
02:57:13.488 --> 02:57:13.648
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:57:15.229 --> 02:57:15.849
[UNKNOWN]: No, it can't really.
02:57:15.869 --> 02:57:16.689
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's good.
02:57:16.749 --> 02:57:19.750
[UNKNOWN]: Although, do we need PG13 back to sing their theme song?
02:57:20.290 --> 02:57:20.630
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
02:57:20.650 --> 02:57:20.830
[UNKNOWN]: I see.
02:57:20.910 --> 02:57:21.130
[UNKNOWN]: I see.
02:57:21.250 --> 02:57:22.351
[UNKNOWN]: Did C.I.son will feed you?
02:57:22.551 --> 02:57:23.311
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think so.
02:57:24.031 --> 02:57:25.452
[UNKNOWN]: They came out to know theme music last night.
02:57:25.532 --> 02:57:26.172
[UNKNOWN]: Which was great.
02:57:26.212 --> 02:57:27.352
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they didn't get dev rebel.
02:57:27.792 --> 02:57:28.212
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
02:57:28.472 --> 02:57:29.793
[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather they come out to silence.
02:57:29.833 --> 02:57:30.073
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:30.919 --> 02:57:31.680
[UNKNOWN]: No, over the five.
02:57:31.700 --> 02:57:36.208
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think Triple H and Shawn Michaels would have fit in the NWO?
02:57:37.931 --> 02:57:38.092
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:57:39.194 --> 02:57:39.474
[UNKNOWN]: I don't.
02:57:39.574 --> 02:57:44.543
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, Shawn Michaels would have Triple H.
02:57:47.224 --> 02:57:56.374
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Sean Michaels and WCW in general would have been a I mean my god the political fucking nightmare that would have been with him and hooking all those oh my god Oh
02:58:02.640 --> 02:58:24.938
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I lower my ashore on the 99 the 99 honestly JD you're theory on Roman not wanting to put anyone over as the travel chief As merits he only put Jay over and he didn't want to lose to Cody until 40 nobody got over or looked great accept him Well, to be fair my asshrote Bronson read owns a victory over Roman rent Is there really too much for Bronson read but
02:58:27.461 --> 02:58:29.642
[UNKNOWN]: You know, isn't he, isn't he like half Simone?
02:58:29.842 --> 02:58:30.082
[UNKNOWN]: I knew him.
02:58:30.783 --> 02:58:33.664
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so he's got that count, that counts, I guess.
02:58:33.684 --> 02:58:34.864
[UNKNOWN]: It's got some Bowen blood.
02:58:34.884 --> 02:58:36.705
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's got some of the triple tattoos, doesn't it?
02:58:36.725 --> 02:58:36.965
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:58:38.166 --> 02:58:38.826
[UNKNOWN]: Atlas, man.
02:58:38.866 --> 02:58:42.248
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they want to protect their hottest commodity.
02:58:42.988 --> 02:58:45.129
[UNKNOWN]: What are you gonna do?
02:58:45.429 --> 02:58:46.290
[UNKNOWN]: But let me ask you this.
02:58:47.410 --> 02:58:49.931
[UNKNOWN]: Has there ever been in the history of WWE?
02:58:50.411 --> 02:58:53.893
[UNKNOWN]: Anybody has protected over the years, is Roman Reigns.
02:58:55.155 --> 02:59:21.942
[UNKNOWN]: uh... any single uh... in in the modern era no no ever ever ever uh... i mean i mean i mean i mean i mean we we talking like he even even hallcogan yeah i'm saying ever in the history of i think i think i think i think i think hogan's much worse even though it was a shorter period of time yeah i think i think show michael's gives him a run for his money too that one one first turn show michael's baby face bride couldn't stand it i fucking hated it
02:59:23.020 --> 02:59:24.241
[UNKNOWN]: But here's the thing though.
02:59:25.041 --> 02:59:26.322
[UNKNOWN]: Hogan was naturally over.
02:59:27.242 --> 02:59:27.482
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:59:27.963 --> 02:59:29.764
[UNKNOWN]: So Hogan is protected as he was.
02:59:30.424 --> 02:59:37.728
[UNKNOWN]: He was the right person at the right time to be pushed because the fans genuinely like they Hogan was just a fucking phenomenon back then.
02:59:38.248 --> 02:59:40.209
[UNKNOWN]: And he was a huge draw.
02:59:41.169 --> 02:59:43.691
[UNKNOWN]: Roman for so many years was not that.
02:59:44.351 --> 02:59:46.132
[UNKNOWN]: But yet he was still protected and pushed.
02:59:47.502 --> 02:59:53.026
[UNKNOWN]: So I ask you again, has there ever been anybody in the history of this company has protected?
02:59:54.607 --> 02:59:56.489
[UNKNOWN]: Hathily pushed and protected is Roman Ritz.
02:59:57.069 --> 02:59:58.590
[UNKNOWN]: Well, not that he put it that way.
02:59:58.630 --> 03:00:00.612
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he might not shout Holden.
03:00:03.176 --> 03:00:06.059
[UNKNOWN]: I see some people in the chat saying taker, but that's a different type of protection.
03:00:06.079 --> 03:00:07.721
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they were protecting his character.
03:00:07.741 --> 03:00:09.162
[UNKNOWN]: It was the fucking dead man he couldn't lose.
03:00:09.763 --> 03:00:11.024
[UNKNOWN]: And it was a lot of time.
03:00:11.705 --> 03:00:11.945
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:00:11.965 --> 03:00:15.328
[UNKNOWN]: And there were a lot of times where he wasn't so protective, maybe when he should have been.
03:00:15.528 --> 03:00:15.709
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:00:16.309 --> 03:00:20.473
[UNKNOWN]: So no, that's that taker taker is a bad answer.
03:00:22.095 --> 03:00:23.036
[UNKNOWN]: I think the answer is Roman.
03:00:24.515 --> 03:00:45.710
[UNKNOWN]: it's certainly a a topic for discussion for sure uh... black wolf with a ten could the fifth man for nine four six out war games be rickie saints making it and pervy truce the same way drew macatyr and bronzer redad in the past war games match also pentacetion is on samia crown jewel at rickie saints in nine four six now
03:00:48.182 --> 03:00:51.564
[UNKNOWN]: But I feel like with mellow joining that just went out the window if there wasn't any chances.
03:00:51.665 --> 03:00:53.866
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Ricky says, there's no need for it.
03:00:54.547 --> 03:01:02.132
[UNKNOWN]: Penta cashing in on Sammy at crown jewel, no, that would mean that Sammy would have to go through a match with Roman and then Penta cashing kind of like a heel, no.
03:01:02.713 --> 03:01:09.217
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and again, if they stick to re-odd, Sammy's gonna be a huge baby face there, and so it almost makes Penta heel.
03:01:09.458 --> 03:01:12.680
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not gonna get the reaction that you would hope for.
03:01:14.000 --> 03:01:17.541
[UNKNOWN]: Michelle, the five, when do you see them putting the title back on Cody?
03:01:18.121 --> 03:01:19.982
[UNKNOWN]: How would you bring back Seth to Raw?
03:01:20.742 --> 03:01:24.643
[UNKNOWN]: And if they don't put Roman in war games, who takes his spot, a Roman will be in war games.
03:01:26.004 --> 03:01:28.384
[UNKNOWN]: He's already been announced for Survivor Series.
03:01:28.524 --> 03:01:29.925
[UNKNOWN]: How would you bring Seth back on Raw?
03:01:30.145 --> 03:01:30.485
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
03:01:30.865 --> 03:01:31.545
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good question.
03:01:32.926 --> 03:01:33.946
[UNKNOWN]: Does he even come back to Raw?
03:01:35.886 --> 03:01:38.668
[UNKNOWN]: I honestly, I don't even, I don't even care, bro.
03:01:38.748 --> 03:01:39.328
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even care.
03:01:39.408 --> 03:01:41.550
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't even given it a second thought, honestly.
03:01:41.830 --> 03:01:43.131
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't even noticed he's been gone.
03:01:43.611 --> 03:01:46.213
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's been missing from Monday Night Raw, man.
03:01:46.353 --> 03:01:49.255
[UNKNOWN]: Where Seth Rollins is like, has anybody asked that question?
03:01:49.455 --> 03:01:50.196
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's not like, no.
03:01:51.276 --> 03:01:53.058
[UNKNOWN]: When do you see them putting the title back on Cody?
03:01:53.938 --> 03:01:54.258
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
03:01:55.219 --> 03:01:56.400
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he needs another run.
03:01:56.600 --> 03:01:56.860
[UNKNOWN]: I don't.
03:01:57.961 --> 03:02:00.943
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he'll get one, but I don't think it's going to be for a while yet.
03:02:02.020 --> 03:02:02.720
[UNKNOWN]: There's no reason to it.
03:02:02.740 --> 03:02:03.981
[UNKNOWN]: There's no reason to rush back into it.
03:02:04.261 --> 03:02:06.982
[UNKNOWN]: I think Randy gets the title before we talk about Cody getting another title.
03:02:07.122 --> 03:02:09.544
[UNKNOWN]: I would put the belt back on Cody when the time finally comes.
03:02:09.564 --> 03:02:11.284
[UNKNOWN]: Are they ready to push the heel button on him?
03:02:11.464 --> 03:02:11.685
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
03:02:12.625 --> 03:02:13.285
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good answer.
03:02:14.026 --> 03:02:17.527
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Titus with a 1999 and Titus Dixon.
03:02:17.867 --> 03:02:18.668
[UNKNOWN]: What's up, J.D.
03:02:18.688 --> 03:02:21.429
[UNKNOWN]: and Solomon's are almost a big fan of bald y'all channels.
03:02:21.509 --> 03:02:23.270
[UNKNOWN]: Big love from New York.
03:02:23.930 --> 03:02:24.631
[UNKNOWN]: I have a question.
03:02:25.051 --> 03:02:26.091
[UNKNOWN]: I was at the H.O.G.
03:02:26.131 --> 03:02:26.832
[UNKNOWN]: show on Friday.
03:02:26.912 --> 03:02:30.834
[UNKNOWN]: Is there any update on the scam God?
03:02:32.655 --> 03:02:52.908
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, so Vick is, because doing well, he was taken to the hospital that night to be checked up on and he is on the mend, he's doing well, I got the update the next day and saw video and all that and he's up and moving around and he's doing well.
03:02:52.948 --> 03:03:01.553
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know when he'll be back in the ring, hopefully it won't be too long, but thankfully disaster was averted because we were, we were there watching it in real time and it looked
03:03:03.335 --> 03:03:11.072
[UNKNOWN]: And I even told you, it reminded me a lot of the Brock Lesnar shooting star WrestleMania where he just didn't quite get the rotation that he wanted on it.
03:03:12.052 --> 03:03:17.737
[UNKNOWN]: But Brock also was just a freak athlete with a thick neck that probably saved him from being paralyzed.
03:03:19.138 --> 03:03:22.241
[UNKNOWN]: So in this case, it could have been a lot worse.
03:03:23.221 --> 03:03:27.065
[UNKNOWN]: But he's moving around, he's walking around and doing very well.
03:03:27.145 --> 03:03:27.986
[UNKNOWN]: We're all thinking about him.
03:03:28.126 --> 03:03:28.626
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we are.
03:03:29.006 --> 03:03:33.190
[UNKNOWN]: He had a great showing and it's not going to be the last you see if him in H.O.G.
03:03:33.230 --> 03:03:34.251
[UNKNOWN]: So he's going to be back.
03:03:35.315 --> 03:04:02.837
[UNKNOWN]: uh... boss more jacks with a four nine nine in my opinion rock sea as one of the best finishes in the company as just the code red it's fine we've seen uh... different variations from different people i'm a huge fan i'd say the consolation president not winning the bank as her winning the rumble you guys are very hopeful yeah i i i don't see it meaning not impossible but if you were to ask me right now who's my favorite i still go at rear-riply yeah
03:04:04.268 --> 03:04:27.162
[UNKNOWN]: uh... being town with a nineteen ninety nine hey guys with comello joining nine four six and being on raw now do you think he could be thrown gable for the i c title uh... i think that is a possibility yes uh... or it yeah now it's a safe they if they wanted to do that where they get some gold in there they put the tag belts on o t m you have to get them off of uh... again i keep saying the judgment day
03:04:27.462 --> 03:04:32.712
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to get them off the vision first, and then get them onto OTM.
03:04:33.294 --> 03:04:37.442
[UNKNOWN]: But having him be the one to beat Gable, I mean, do you just imagine the match between them?
03:04:37.802 --> 03:04:38.003
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:04:39.822 --> 03:04:48.206
[UNKNOWN]: I'm fine with that when when the time is right you want to transition that belt to somebody else if it's not going to be Ethan Page Carmel, it would be the guy.
03:04:48.686 --> 03:04:51.488
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, being time mentions Ethan Page here or will it be Ethan Page?
03:04:51.568 --> 03:04:52.708
[UNKNOWN]: Ethan Page is going to get his.
03:04:52.728 --> 03:04:55.009
[UNKNOWN]: He's way too good and he's way too talented.
03:04:55.310 --> 03:04:56.230
[UNKNOWN]: He's a great heal.
03:04:57.211 --> 03:04:58.991
[UNKNOWN]: It's just the timing of things.
03:04:59.031 --> 03:05:05.975
[UNKNOWN]: They started off with him on the main roster and he already made his intentions known about the icy title and we're still waiting for that to happen, but
03:05:06.635 --> 03:05:11.237
[UNKNOWN]: It thinks happened and this is a a business where change and turn over happens very quickly.
03:05:11.377 --> 03:05:18.441
[UNKNOWN]: So he's going to get his and then also he says also you guys have commented in numerous atrogy matches which one has been your favorite match.
03:05:21.322 --> 03:05:23.704
[UNKNOWN]: Meet personally red centana.
03:05:24.984 --> 03:05:27.866
[UNKNOWN]: I probably go red gangone no ropes match.
03:05:31.047 --> 03:05:35.690
[UNKNOWN]: There's a third one in there but I always call back to
03:05:37.686 --> 03:05:45.433
[UNKNOWN]: There was a match with Sammy Callahan, and I think he teamed with Penta against L.A. X.
03:05:46.394 --> 03:05:47.435
[UNKNOWN]: It was Santana Ortiz.
03:05:47.455 --> 03:05:48.476
[UNKNOWN]: It was a great fucking match.
03:05:48.676 --> 03:05:49.937
[UNKNOWN]: It's on YouTube if you guys are going to watch.
03:05:49.957 --> 03:05:50.678
[UNKNOWN]: It was just tremendous.
03:05:52.353 --> 03:05:58.198
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, Red and Santana that first Puerto Rican weekend was God was what two years ago now.
03:05:58.238 --> 03:05:59.139
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
03:05:59.840 --> 03:06:03.463
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was the atmosphere in the building that night was just something else.
03:06:03.864 --> 03:06:07.067
[UNKNOWN]: So that was special even even Red and Ben Dito and Vegas this year.
03:06:07.087 --> 03:06:10.049
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was great.
03:06:10.069 --> 03:06:12.211
[UNKNOWN]: Amazing Joey Silver was right through recently this year.
03:06:12.392 --> 03:06:15.815
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, now now we've been we've been very fortunate has been a lot of good ones.
03:06:17.082 --> 03:06:23.045
[UNKNOWN]: Ross 51 93 with a 499 great show Friday night at H.O.G.
03:06:23.065 --> 03:06:23.705
[UNKNOWN]: It was a great.
03:06:23.865 --> 03:06:25.286
[UNKNOWN]: It was great to be there alive.
03:06:25.486 --> 03:06:26.606
[UNKNOWN]: How is Nick?
03:06:26.987 --> 03:06:28.387
[UNKNOWN]: He says Nick Vendetta.
03:06:28.467 --> 03:06:29.628
[UNKNOWN]: Vic Vendetta.
03:06:29.648 --> 03:06:30.708
[UNKNOWN]: Jason just gave the update.
03:06:31.028 --> 03:06:31.449
[UNKNOWN]: He's a brother.
03:06:31.469 --> 03:06:32.269
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:06:32.349 --> 03:06:33.209
[UNKNOWN]: He's doing very well.
03:06:33.289 --> 03:06:34.710
[UNKNOWN]: And hopefully we will see him back soon.
03:06:34.770 --> 03:06:37.771
[UNKNOWN]: So he is going to be a fixture for us.
03:06:37.791 --> 03:06:38.872
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully for many years to come.
03:06:40.092 --> 03:06:41.273
[UNKNOWN]: Boss, what jacks with the one on the night?
03:06:41.293 --> 03:06:43.754
[UNKNOWN]: You guys watching Street Fighter this weekend.
03:06:43.994 --> 03:06:44.534
[UNKNOWN]: I am not.
03:06:44.595 --> 03:06:45.535
[UNKNOWN]: I think this guy is though.
03:06:46.828 --> 03:06:47.588
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm not.
03:06:47.728 --> 03:06:51.790
[UNKNOWN]: No, I have no tickets this week to go to any movie.
03:06:51.870 --> 03:06:54.331
[UNKNOWN]: So I think I'm going to sit this week out.
03:06:54.471 --> 03:06:56.852
[UNKNOWN]: I got my tickets already for Clayface next week.
03:06:57.933 --> 03:06:59.713
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm looking forward to that.
03:06:59.893 --> 03:07:02.374
[UNKNOWN]: I've just, I've seen mixed reviews on Street Fighter.
03:07:02.654 --> 03:07:06.416
[UNKNOWN]: I probably will end up seeing it, but I think I'm just going to wait for it to hit streaming.
03:07:08.092 --> 03:07:09.052
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just not feeling.
03:07:09.833 --> 03:07:12.053
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they're mommy really kind of sad what you're on going to the movie.
03:07:12.073 --> 03:07:16.915
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, other mommy kind of ruined my movie going experience that he's a trash.
03:07:17.135 --> 03:07:19.556
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I'm going to take this week off.
03:07:20.857 --> 03:07:22.537
[UNKNOWN]: Aaron with a 99.9.9.
03:07:22.737 --> 03:07:26.359
[UNKNOWN]: I don't get the logic of writing money in the bank store line.
03:07:26.379 --> 03:07:33.201
[UNKNOWN]: Then changing it and punishing fans because they are paying close attention to following the story that you wanted to defense the follow-in the first place.
03:07:34.980 --> 03:07:37.982
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, when you put it that way out, I mean, it's a very good comment.
03:07:38.682 --> 03:07:38.962
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
03:07:40.563 --> 03:07:42.044
[UNKNOWN]: Triple H is the fucking, I don't know.
03:07:42.064 --> 03:07:42.564
[UNKNOWN]: He's loopy.
03:07:42.744 --> 03:07:43.085
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
03:07:44.145 --> 03:07:45.486
[UNKNOWN]: Just a ridiculous way to look at things.
03:07:45.506 --> 03:07:48.408
[UNKNOWN]: Just the fans don't know any better, and they're not supposed to know any better.
03:07:48.948 --> 03:07:49.628
[UNKNOWN]: We know all.
03:07:50.889 --> 03:07:52.470
[UNKNOWN]: Asai, moon salt with the one I did.
03:07:52.510 --> 03:07:54.411
[UNKNOWN]: I great work last week calling each other.
03:07:54.471 --> 03:07:54.891
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
03:07:55.512 --> 03:07:55.872
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
03:07:56.512 --> 03:07:57.793
[UNKNOWN]: We put a lot of work into that, man.
03:07:58.433 --> 03:07:59.374
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully you guys enjoy it.
03:08:00.853 --> 03:08:02.014
[UNKNOWN]: Boss, what's your accent with the one I'm doing?
03:08:02.054 --> 03:08:02.854
[UNKNOWN]: Who's the hottest?
03:08:03.094 --> 03:08:05.455
[UNKNOWN]: Lola, Roxy, Stephanie, or Jada?
03:08:05.776 --> 03:08:06.476
[UNKNOWN]: Jesus, man.
03:08:08.997 --> 03:08:11.178
[UNKNOWN]: I like all four for different reasons.
03:08:11.258 --> 03:08:12.539
[UNKNOWN]: I still gotta go Stephanie.
03:08:15.121 --> 03:08:17.762
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yes, Stephanie is a, she's a beautiful woman.
03:08:19.495 --> 03:08:20.116
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's funny.
03:08:20.136 --> 03:08:21.037
[UNKNOWN]: You see pictures of her.
03:08:21.077 --> 03:08:37.112
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so used to seeing her with that that face makeup on that she has That when I see regular photos of her without at all without any of that stuff on like she's even she's even more beautiful Yeah, she's just a naturally beautiful woman, but I mean they all are in their own way You force me to make a choice though.
03:08:37.132 --> 03:08:37.832
[UNKNOWN]: I'm probably with you.
03:08:37.852 --> 03:08:38.753
[UNKNOWN]: I'm probably going Stephanie.
03:08:39.514 --> 03:08:40.455
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, boss with the phone.
03:08:40.575 --> 03:08:42.557
[UNKNOWN]: I was born Fuck Becca
03:08:43.679 --> 03:08:45.140
[UNKNOWN]: Boss with a four night then I'm also.
03:08:45.820 --> 03:08:48.001
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, who would you rather help in a bar fight?
03:08:48.221 --> 03:08:54.605
[UNKNOWN]: A, the rock, B, Brock Lesnar, C, Old Buffet Me, D, Big Show.
03:08:55.165 --> 03:08:56.606
[UNKNOWN]: So, so what is the question?
03:08:57.066 --> 03:08:59.047
[UNKNOWN]: Who would you help or want help from?
03:08:59.127 --> 03:09:01.308
[UNKNOWN]: Who would you rather, oh, who would you, I'm sorry.
03:09:01.348 --> 03:09:02.108
[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather wrong, I'm sorry.
03:09:02.128 --> 03:09:11.173
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
03:09:12.629 --> 03:09:13.689
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I gotta go, Brock.
03:09:14.869 --> 03:09:16.810
[UNKNOWN]: Second one be Oberfemming, for sure.
03:09:17.370 --> 03:09:22.411
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, but while you're getting your ass kicked though, Ober's gonna be busy, you know, doing the Ober strut.
03:09:22.891 --> 03:09:24.471
[UNKNOWN]: And it'll take a while for him to get there.
03:09:24.511 --> 03:09:27.291
[UNKNOWN]: Brock, Brock is just, he's, he's quick man, he's fast.
03:09:27.331 --> 03:09:29.012
[UNKNOWN]: He'll be there in a, in a flash.
03:09:30.932 --> 03:09:35.373
[UNKNOWN]: Ryan Matthew Russo, the one I've done, what's Nash for Halloween?
03:09:36.353 --> 03:09:39.053
[UNKNOWN]: Big, daddy, ghoul, diesel.
03:09:44.073 --> 03:10:08.040
[UNKNOWN]: Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray
03:10:14.713 --> 03:10:19.915
[UNKNOWN]: I got to give a good mention to 95 95 actually had some really good matches.
03:10:20.696 --> 03:10:37.063
[UNKNOWN]: I think I think it was the opening survivors series match That had got you guys like Genetti and skip people like that, but like it was a really Really good one and the Brett diesel main event also from what I remember which is where diesel one heal at the end
03:10:37.702 --> 03:10:51.687
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the opening match in 93 was Ramon, it was Macho Man, it was Janetti and the 1-2-3 kid against Rick Martell, Adam Baum, Diesel, and who's the fourth guy on that team?
03:10:51.967 --> 03:10:52.368
[UNKNOWN]: IRS.
03:10:52.868 --> 03:10:53.608
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, IRS.
03:10:53.628 --> 03:10:54.648
[UNKNOWN]: That was a great fucking match.
03:10:55.089 --> 03:10:55.289
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:10:55.969 --> 03:10:57.630
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of all pairing, but that was a great match.
03:10:59.010 --> 03:11:01.551
[UNKNOWN]: Um, Black Wolf ain't with the 40, 41 months.
03:11:02.031 --> 03:11:03.512
[UNKNOWN]: That's Commissioner of H.O.G.
03:11:04.268 --> 03:11:08.150
[UNKNOWN]: Can you perhaps make a run at getting crown jewel at the NYC Arena Jacer?
03:11:08.390 --> 03:11:13.272
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure JD's beloved enough to make it to make it to make it happen.
03:11:13.292 --> 03:11:15.573
[UNKNOWN]: They'd be lucky to run the NYC Arena, man, that's a great venue.
03:11:17.013 --> 03:11:17.333
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
03:11:17.533 --> 03:11:19.734
[UNKNOWN]: We actually have our own crown jewel championship.
03:11:19.754 --> 03:11:20.875
[UNKNOWN]: They kind of copied our gimmick.
03:11:21.135 --> 03:11:21.355
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
03:11:23.276 --> 03:11:23.836
[UNKNOWN]: Tone!
03:11:24.056 --> 03:11:27.618
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the five went to a fight and a hockey game broke out.
03:11:36.040 --> 03:11:37.001
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not a big hockey guy.
03:11:39.042 --> 03:11:41.743
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad you're going to tell him that.
03:11:41.883 --> 03:11:44.385
[UNKNOWN]: And the Dodgers is down O2, by the way, to the Brewers.
03:11:44.445 --> 03:11:47.287
[UNKNOWN]: So I heard a conspiracy theory.
03:11:47.307 --> 03:11:48.267
[UNKNOWN]: I wonder what you think about this.
03:11:48.307 --> 03:12:01.055
[UNKNOWN]: Someone on Twitter, I saw someone today say, the Dodgers are going to intentionally blow the game with the series with the Brewers, so that they can parade around to the commission, saying like, look.
03:12:01.764 --> 03:12:06.626
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't win, but there's no need for a strike or or or whatever's going to happen next year.
03:12:06.926 --> 03:12:09.367
[UNKNOWN]: Look at the lower end teams won the world series this year.
03:12:09.387 --> 03:12:10.848
[UNKNOWN]: There's no need for us to go on strike.
03:12:11.929 --> 03:12:13.409
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that's possible?
03:12:13.489 --> 03:12:15.390
[UNKNOWN]: That's certainly that's certainly a theory.
03:12:15.410 --> 03:12:16.871
[UNKNOWN]: I heard that.
03:12:16.891 --> 03:12:17.391
[UNKNOWN]: Now that you've told me.
03:12:17.611 --> 03:12:17.851
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
03:12:18.532 --> 03:12:22.694
[UNKNOWN]: I think the issues that are at play here go far beyond that though.
03:12:23.074 --> 03:12:25.415
[UNKNOWN]: So I think a strike is inevitable.
03:12:26.219 --> 03:12:52.681
[UNKNOWN]: only question is how long is again isn't going to last longer than the first one ninety nine was a ninety four nine five nine five uh... chrono of the final super jet solo jd can you both read this in oba's voice uh... do you want to you want to read the super chat in oba's voice i can't i can't be oba's voice what's the update on hybrid theory uh... it's still in my desk favorite holiday
03:12:56.270 --> 03:12:56.951
[UNKNOWN]: favorite holiday.
03:12:57.251 --> 03:12:59.073
[UNKNOWN]: It's covered up in a few weeks Halloween here.
03:13:00.595 --> 03:13:04.519
[UNKNOWN]: Um, finally most random fact you know cheers guys.
03:13:06.982 --> 03:13:08.603
[UNKNOWN]: And you ran them fact you want to shoot out.
03:13:11.426 --> 03:13:14.249
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know.
03:13:14.330 --> 03:13:16.512
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what would be the most random one that I know.
03:13:19.325 --> 03:13:19.645
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
03:13:20.266 --> 03:13:20.866
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you know what?
03:13:21.467 --> 03:13:22.047
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know anything.
03:13:22.888 --> 03:13:23.708
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it comes to you for it.
03:13:23.728 --> 03:13:24.128
[UNKNOWN]: It's true.
03:13:24.709 --> 03:13:25.129
[UNKNOWN]: That's true.
03:13:27.211 --> 03:13:28.692
[UNKNOWN]: Tell them what you think about that.
03:13:28.712 --> 03:13:30.913
[UNKNOWN]: Tell them what the fight I'll see for you.
03:13:32.574 --> 03:13:33.295
[UNKNOWN]: I just read that.
03:13:34.756 --> 03:13:35.977
[UNKNOWN]: Jay Patterson, the fight I'll see for you.
03:13:35.997 --> 03:13:38.739
[UNKNOWN]: I can someone explain to me how the group is called 9-Fo-6.
03:13:39.259 --> 03:13:41.100
[UNKNOWN]: When three members aren't even from California.
03:13:41.721 --> 03:13:43.662
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they got connections all over the United States.
03:13:45.323 --> 03:13:47.205
[UNKNOWN]: East Coast, West Coast, up and down left, right?
03:13:47.305 --> 03:13:47.725
[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't matter.
03:13:49.758 --> 03:14:11.245
[UNKNOWN]: uh... endless boredom with a one ninety nine the hearts in the get our being wasted by tony bruh yeah don't have that contract run out they are getting a payday every week and uh... they're just happy to be there well i mean look i mean you you need to hurt syndicate to be willing to lose some matches i i i would guess that might be part of the problem there yeah
03:14:13.018 --> 03:14:36.725
[UNKNOWN]: uh... Vincent Tarantini with 53 months does anyone think pantable cash in successfully yes might do such as hoping he does that we're putting too much hope into the same people and feel that is never going to change i think pantoshood and i think tiffin is should lose uh... some of you see the thought i'll see which i saw what was your story about type
03:14:37.706 --> 03:14:43.514
[UNKNOWN]: type of negative and can the or type of negative and can't seem being too dark.
03:14:43.654 --> 03:14:49.983
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be me is a jam, by the way, as a story, but type on negative and can.
03:14:51.100 --> 03:14:53.821
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, they did a version of Cain's theme.
03:14:54.281 --> 03:15:00.323
[UNKNOWN]: I think the God was at the lead singer who I think is since passed away, I believe.
03:15:01.143 --> 03:15:07.445
[UNKNOWN]: But anyway, they had put together this theme for Cain that was kind of on the dark side.
03:15:07.646 --> 03:15:09.946
[UNKNOWN]: It sounded very just very dark and sinister.
03:15:11.107 --> 03:15:16.228
[UNKNOWN]: And they ended up not WWE ended up not using it because they just felt like it really didn't fit the character.
03:15:16.248 --> 03:15:18.749
[UNKNOWN]: And they went to totally different direction with it.
03:15:21.270 --> 03:15:47.123
[UNKNOWN]: The directive to not have any lyrics, and then of course they ended up going with the finger 11 song which had lyrics But what I heard the music I heard the song and it is I will say I think the WWE we made the right decision with what they went with Because that's a great song that he came back to But yeah, there's a version of his music that they had worked on and it really bothered apparently the the lead guy that
03:15:47.895 --> 03:16:00.182
[UNKNOWN]: He he put his all into this and was excited about it and then they ended up not using it apparently up until the day he died It just it kind of Not a way at him, but I think that version's on YouTube you want to check it out.
03:16:00.202 --> 03:16:04.845
[UNKNOWN]: It is It does have a very dark sort of vibe to it.
03:16:05.325 --> 03:16:06.226
[UNKNOWN]: I'll see if I can look that up.
03:16:06.266 --> 03:16:09.087
[UNKNOWN]: It sounds interesting I'm not a fan of the band, but being that it's can.
03:16:09.107 --> 03:16:14.410
[UNKNOWN]: I got to look it up I've also want Jackson one line down and so WWE shows Tiffany a purpose to piss off the fans.
03:16:14.430 --> 03:16:15.611
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes
03:16:16.852 --> 03:16:44.092
[UNKNOWN]: uh... William Lopez with a 99 out on the ambulance about maybe javon wanted to go through the front windshield but since it's real glass the empung gotten for since we don't do that here always a possibility man uh... and will the four ninety nine uh... there was a follow-up report that we've expected the fan reaction to get heat on tiphany and underdog sympathy for rocks and
03:16:48.762 --> 03:16:51.463
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's always a possibility, but I'm not seeing it right now.
03:16:53.204 --> 03:16:53.985
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully, that's the case.
03:16:56.146 --> 03:16:57.146
[UNKNOWN]: They gotta tell that story.
03:16:57.426 --> 03:16:58.247
[UNKNOWN]: They move the way from it.
03:16:59.767 --> 03:17:07.931
[UNKNOWN]: Johnny Boy with a 10, did you notice, WWE would do a picture and picture of fucking door dash instead of picture and picture of 946 and Bloodline Brawl.
03:17:08.631 --> 03:17:15.855
[UNKNOWN]: We could not see Keys, Fatu, or Key Solo Brawl because of the crowd brawl of Usos and OTM.
03:17:18.052 --> 03:17:20.875
[UNKNOWN]: We got a picture in picture of DoorDash?
03:17:20.955 --> 03:17:22.036
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I didn't get it.
03:17:22.657 --> 03:17:23.198
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember.
03:17:23.218 --> 03:17:27.422
[UNKNOWN]: They're being a picture in picture of DoorDash, but I didn't do remember during that match last night.
03:17:27.442 --> 03:17:31.567
[UNKNOWN]: There was a moment where keys and maybe it was solo.
03:17:31.967 --> 03:17:34.190
[UNKNOWN]: They were fighting by the announcers and jokes as a tour.
03:17:34.610 --> 03:17:36.372
[UNKNOWN]: I think he hit solo with the steps.
03:17:37.093 --> 03:17:41.435
[UNKNOWN]: And I hear him narrating this and talking about this, but they never cut to actually show us.
03:17:41.455 --> 03:17:45.056
[UNKNOWN]: They're just showing us new shows and OTM by the entrance tunnel.
03:17:45.096 --> 03:17:48.237
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay, it's like Radio WWF here.
03:17:48.257 --> 03:17:49.998
[UNKNOWN]: Why don't you just show us what just happened?
03:17:50.038 --> 03:17:51.678
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was a light camera transition there.
03:17:51.899 --> 03:17:56.780
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, by the time they cut back, solo was already on the ground.
03:17:56.840 --> 03:18:03.523
[UNKNOWN]: Johnny Boyle 5, I guess Roxy would have been granted the case if Tiffany left the match with a concussion.
03:18:04.810 --> 03:18:06.131
[UNKNOWN]: Wish we all thought was going to happen.
03:18:06.151 --> 03:18:07.832
[UNKNOWN]: We're surprised that she finished the match.
03:18:09.513 --> 03:18:10.854
[UNKNOWN]: Kid named Frank for the 499.
03:18:10.874 --> 03:18:12.516
[UNKNOWN]: I left Tiffany Cajun at Crown Jewel.
03:18:12.636 --> 03:18:14.517
[UNKNOWN]: Live Beach, Chelsea, Tiffany comes out.
03:18:14.537 --> 03:18:16.278
[UNKNOWN]: Stairs down live, then starts stomping out.
03:18:16.298 --> 03:18:17.159
[UNKNOWN]: Chelsea turns you.
03:18:17.799 --> 03:18:18.100
[UNKNOWN]: Nah.
03:18:19.461 --> 03:18:20.922
[UNKNOWN]: I would rather her lose and then turn you.
03:18:23.844 --> 03:18:26.946
[UNKNOWN]: Marcus with a $50 super chat.
03:18:27.246 --> 03:18:27.646
[UNKNOWN]: Boys.
03:18:28.650 --> 03:18:30.012
[UNKNOWN]: JD is my guy.
03:18:30.032 --> 03:18:32.334
[UNKNOWN]: He got me to find solo.
03:18:32.975 --> 03:18:34.937
[UNKNOWN]: Now you two are the best in the game.
03:18:35.118 --> 03:18:36.339
[UNKNOWN]: This show is incredible.
03:18:36.739 --> 03:18:39.262
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys for being honest positive and loud.
03:18:40.424 --> 03:18:41.245
[UNKNOWN]: I love hearing that.
03:18:42.226 --> 03:18:43.107
[UNKNOWN]: I love hearing that.
03:18:43.347 --> 03:18:44.028
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you Marcus.
03:18:44.208 --> 03:18:45.009
[UNKNOWN]: Appreciate your brother.
03:18:46.030 --> 03:18:47.572
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for being here on Tuesday night, man.
03:18:49.899 --> 03:19:17.832
[UNKNOWN]: uh... Vulcan to uh... to eight zero with a ten-hour series that do you think ablinking was a good promo promo worker when he wrestled and i did it did he wrestle i don't know um... i thought he was actually uh... kind of boring about his uh... promos were very vanilla and dry not one of the better workers in addition to you think the meds will win once bobby bony is contract and and thank you and make god bless both of you in your houses
03:19:20.087 --> 03:19:24.510
[UNKNOWN]: I don't I don't think much is going to change I'll be going anywhere.
03:19:24.911 --> 03:19:27.532
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be boonies contract like a curse easy money man.
03:19:27.673 --> 03:19:33.497
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, one trip to the mailbox every July first I believe it is million plus man.
03:19:33.517 --> 03:19:34.257
[UNKNOWN]: What a what a life.
03:19:34.357 --> 03:19:45.285
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm like well for the five remember gentlemen the Shavo Guerrero and Horn Swaggle had a multi week feud where Shavo spent the entire time being embarrassed and a chump and
03:19:47.548 --> 03:20:05.011
[UNKNOWN]: and then black will fall for this show uh... jade solo or the greatest part of his duo of on not doing it this time all time and i did it to the point where i have to like mute might find you know it's bad it's uh... it's right i mean i get that to the point but it's just it's awful it's just it's so bad
03:20:06.653 --> 03:20:25.071
[UNKNOWN]: uh... we got a one-on-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-
03:20:31.203 --> 03:20:35.393
[UNKNOWN]: who's meaner than to meaner, I think she might be.
03:20:36.094 --> 03:20:37.698
[UNKNOWN]: I think she still might be employed.
03:20:39.273 --> 03:20:43.875
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure, I mean, she's still, I think, is she, I think she's listed on the roster page?
03:20:44.296 --> 03:20:45.316
[UNKNOWN]: The active roster page?
03:20:45.516 --> 03:20:46.537
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even think she's in the audience.
03:20:46.577 --> 03:20:52.640
[UNKNOWN]: I just watched an NXT episode where she wrestled, who the Kishu-Wrestle Katelyn.
03:20:52.680 --> 03:20:55.301
[UNKNOWN]: NXT back in 2012, I just watched her red divvista.
03:20:55.761 --> 03:20:56.622
[UNKNOWN]: Why were you watching that?
03:20:57.022 --> 03:21:02.805
[UNKNOWN]: I watch it, I watch it with some of my people on Patreon, I do some NXT old school, and I see watch along.
03:21:03.472 --> 03:21:05.633
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I thought you were others were watching main event too.
03:21:05.873 --> 03:21:06.634
[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
03:21:06.834 --> 03:21:15.839
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to watch them random main event episodes for fucking 13 years ago What roster was she on the last time she was active?
03:21:16.440 --> 03:21:17.460
[UNKNOWN]: She's like a smack that.
03:21:18.021 --> 03:21:18.381
[UNKNOWN]: What's she okay?
03:21:18.501 --> 03:21:25.405
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see her on the smack that roster You look at raw Maybe they finally took her off
03:21:26.853 --> 03:21:36.639
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've heard, I don't know over the last few years, I've, like, read conflicting things about whether or not she actually is secretly kind of still with them, but yeah, I don't know.
03:21:36.779 --> 03:21:37.940
[UNKNOWN]: We haven't seen her all the time.
03:21:38.020 --> 03:21:40.581
[UNKNOWN]: Russell Vesas, to me, does got a Bobby Bonilla contract?
03:21:42.442 --> 03:21:43.363
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, backloaded.
03:21:43.983 --> 03:21:44.563
[UNKNOWN]: Probably.
03:21:45.984 --> 03:21:46.885
[UNKNOWN]: Henry with it too.
03:21:47.105 --> 03:21:48.646
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing TKO could do about it.
03:21:48.686 --> 03:21:49.546
[UNKNOWN]: It's ironclad.
03:21:49.686 --> 03:21:53.088
[UNKNOWN]: That rock rock is, yeah, you put that one in the vault and seal it shut.
03:21:54.221 --> 03:21:58.163
[UNKNOWN]: Henry with the Tidal Sea, which at MLW you got a deal on Amazon Prime today.
03:21:58.363 --> 03:21:59.024
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I saw that.
03:21:59.664 --> 03:22:00.084
[UNKNOWN]: Good for them.
03:22:02.025 --> 03:22:04.907
[UNKNOWN]: Sean Waters, would a Fatal Superjet?
03:22:04.927 --> 03:22:09.529
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think L.A. Knight joins Team Bloodline at Survivor Series if Jacob ends up joining 946?
03:22:09.849 --> 03:22:10.009
[UNKNOWN]: No.
03:22:12.030 --> 03:22:14.051
[UNKNOWN]: Jacob got run down by 946.
03:22:14.091 --> 03:22:15.192
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going to team with them.
03:22:15.232 --> 03:22:18.274
[UNKNOWN]: If anything, it's going to be L.A. Knight as a heel on the 946 side.
03:22:20.997 --> 03:22:24.881
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, we got JD from Tiffany's Barbie house to 06.
03:22:25.622 --> 03:22:28.825
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, other JD and Ken pretending to be a monster.
03:22:28.945 --> 03:22:31.047
[UNKNOWN]: Aren't you happy that our Queen Tiffany Shratton?
03:22:31.827 --> 03:22:33.749
[UNKNOWN]: One, I can't sleep.
03:22:33.949 --> 03:22:36.492
[UNKNOWN]: I hope Sinna wrestles at WrestleMania.
03:22:38.619 --> 03:22:52.293
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I sent a who was sent front roll the shreamer You know, I thought they were saying like sinna like they misspelled cina No, no, sinna a c-i-n-n-a Sinna who it okay, because she's a female streamer on twitch.
03:22:52.813 --> 03:22:53.734
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I don't know who that is.
03:22:53.935 --> 03:22:58.259
[UNKNOWN]: Okay Yes, it's like a popular like she's like yeah, she's like besties with Tiffany's ratin.
03:22:58.279 --> 03:23:02.263
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I see Which is another reason why they probably gave her the briefcase
03:23:04.114 --> 03:23:06.777
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what type of content she makes, but she's that she was there.
03:23:06.817 --> 03:23:15.868
[UNKNOWN]: She was live streaming like live reactions to money the bank sitting front row Supreme well the one on the 9th Naomi isn't ready would you be fine with Naya Jackson?
03:23:15.908 --> 03:23:21.214
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I would not Naomi is going to be joining the 946 angle.
03:23:21.474 --> 03:23:22.536
[UNKNOWN]: It's not in higher jacks
03:23:24.288 --> 03:23:25.789
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, be money with a seven months.
03:23:26.049 --> 03:23:32.133
[UNKNOWN]: So if we give an up on L.A. night winning the world title, should we give up on JD finally watching a session.
03:23:32.654 --> 03:23:33.554
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, nothing.
03:23:33.594 --> 03:23:35.636
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's going to happen.
03:23:35.976 --> 03:23:38.918
[UNKNOWN]: L.A. night will win the world championship before that ever happens.
03:23:40.559 --> 03:23:42.260
[UNKNOWN]: Joe can decide and join the show is always.
03:23:42.280 --> 03:23:42.601
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
03:23:42.621 --> 03:23:42.921
[UNKNOWN]: Be money.
03:23:44.362 --> 03:23:46.843
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, we got one here from.
03:23:54.814 --> 03:24:19.425
[UNKNOWN]: two-hour super chat here to say Charles shakes shakes he says oh god here's to say Charles Mason is money I'm a fan he is money he's very good at what he does he's a prick I saw that interview that they finally uploaded I thought he was going to drew you out of yeah I thought he was going to do more than that I was backing up a little bit
03:24:20.630 --> 03:24:44.250
[UNKNOWN]: uh... thank you man uh... daniel to all super jetuzi and my favorite day to count and tented thank you daniel highly would guy with a five since carmel hoes is in nine four six will he be to be taking the pins no i don't think so they don't less than i mean i was that first match in stage as they've formed as a faction their first official match last night
03:24:45.837 --> 03:24:52.084
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, entertainment, too, I'll see you guys, Jason, seeing Jay these video doing the live Morgan all time gimmick.
03:24:52.104 --> 03:24:54.747
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, maybe he has.
03:24:55.568 --> 03:24:58.352
[UNKNOWN]: It was all over, it was all over TikTok.
03:24:58.392 --> 03:25:00.574
[UNKNOWN]: I call, I call, I call to the worst champion of all time.
03:25:01.315 --> 03:25:04.138
[UNKNOWN]: And I did the whole, the way live Morgan does it.
03:25:05.160 --> 03:25:06.281
[UNKNOWN]: With the echo on the roadcast.
03:25:08.542 --> 03:25:10.162
[UNKNOWN]: It's on tick-tock.
03:25:10.502 --> 03:25:12.183
[UNKNOWN]: It went pretty decently on there.
03:25:12.983 --> 03:25:14.483
[UNKNOWN]: It would fend all the lives stand up.
03:25:14.543 --> 03:25:15.583
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like live.
03:25:15.623 --> 03:25:16.904
[UNKNOWN]: I just didn't want her to win.
03:25:16.944 --> 03:25:19.484
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want her winning that much.
03:25:19.524 --> 03:25:21.124
[UNKNOWN]: Furious with a 99, what's up, J.D.
03:25:21.144 --> 03:25:21.544
[UNKNOWN]: Solo?
03:25:21.844 --> 03:25:35.067
[UNKNOWN]: So ACW, mischief night 2, this Saturday in Poccipsy, they're advertising Matt Rovers Kill Across and the righteous versus the now, with Matt Hardy as the ref should be fun.
03:25:35.087 --> 03:25:35.947
[UNKNOWN]: Sounds like a cool night.
03:25:37.586 --> 03:25:39.910
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they see W doing some good things.
03:25:39.950 --> 03:25:41.953
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're taking that show on the road finally, too.
03:25:42.153 --> 03:25:42.774
[UNKNOWN]: That's good to see.
03:25:43.896 --> 03:25:48.223
[UNKNOWN]: And those boredom with the one I did on the y'all think it's worth it going back to WWE now.
03:25:50.381 --> 03:25:55.423
[UNKNOWN]: I can't say I mean we're we're watching through the eyes of a content creator I I've said repeatedly.
03:25:55.463 --> 03:26:01.325
[UNKNOWN]: I think Jason said it to me I mean when it's gotten bad sometimes if we didn't have our channel I probably won't watch it on a weekly basis.
03:26:01.365 --> 03:26:15.270
[UNKNOWN]: I probably should be doing it on highlights He's talking about people like talent that leave and come back or Well, he didn't say I think he's the way I took it is like if you're a fan Is it worth going back to WWE now to watch if you've kind of stopped watching?
03:26:16.327 --> 03:26:16.587
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
03:26:16.688 --> 03:26:19.791
[UNKNOWN]: I took that to me as a worth it to go back to WWE.
03:26:19.871 --> 03:26:25.218
[UNKNOWN]: Like if you were somebody who was there previously comes back like a Corbin or a big cast or a Matt Cardona.
03:26:26.179 --> 03:26:26.739
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's a no.
03:26:27.455 --> 03:26:28.616
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it depends.
03:26:28.656 --> 03:26:29.676
[UNKNOWN]: I mean like for some of them.
03:26:29.736 --> 03:26:36.300
[UNKNOWN]: No, the answer is no, but then again like even a card down or somebody like we don't know I mean it could be making really good money and maybe in their mind.
03:26:36.340 --> 03:26:38.962
[UNKNOWN]: It's like hey, it's still it's still at the end of the day.
03:26:39.002 --> 03:26:48.868
[UNKNOWN]: It's still a job And so financially maybe it's it's something that makes sense for them But then you also have like a dramatic entire who got fired and came back and
03:26:50.000 --> 03:27:10.791
[UNKNOWN]: right look at him he got he got a big push when he came back so front and read same thing so it all depends on the person really whether or not you find success or if you end up getting slotted right back where you were before and it kind of depends on the individual uh... big bucket with a thought i'll see what you had this right feet except the u.s. title of trick no
03:27:12.189 --> 03:27:20.312
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's gonna be right Phoenix though that would be that would be great I'd love to see them all hold the title on the main roster That's not the triple eight cruise away title also the booking.
03:27:20.332 --> 03:27:38.059
[UNKNOWN]: May double talent who go to WWE without fail previous WWE runs has been great Hey WWE talent who go to WWE without fail previous WWE runs
03:27:39.781 --> 03:27:40.401
[UNKNOWN]: has been great.
03:27:41.442 --> 03:27:42.823
[UNKNOWN]: Well, keys is one.
03:27:43.043 --> 03:27:44.063
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, keys, pentah.
03:27:45.004 --> 03:27:45.484
[UNKNOWN]: Starks.
03:27:46.184 --> 03:27:46.745
[UNKNOWN]: Not so much.
03:27:46.965 --> 03:27:47.285
[UNKNOWN]: Jade.
03:27:47.565 --> 03:27:50.807
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Jade was in the Russell Mania championship match.
03:27:50.827 --> 03:27:50.927
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:27:50.987 --> 03:27:51.387
[UNKNOWN]: Champion.
03:27:51.787 --> 03:27:52.087
[UNKNOWN]: Jade.
03:27:52.507 --> 03:27:55.329
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever you think about Jade, she's gotten a good push for herself.
03:27:55.409 --> 03:27:55.589
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:27:57.570 --> 03:27:58.810
[UNKNOWN]: It won't be the last though.
03:27:58.850 --> 03:28:01.371
[UNKNOWN]: There'll be some back-of-forth, I believe, you know.
03:28:01.391 --> 03:28:07.013
[UNKNOWN]: Well, remember, I mean, Alvaro has had said that there's a lot of contracts around this month.
03:28:07.073 --> 03:28:08.033
[UNKNOWN]: I go around this period.
03:28:08.073 --> 03:28:09.834
[UNKNOWN]: I think in both companies that were coming due.
03:28:10.134 --> 03:28:11.754
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
03:28:11.774 --> 03:28:13.375
[UNKNOWN]: So we still haven't seen drag and off.
03:28:13.395 --> 03:28:18.076
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know where Shamus is going to land, but there could be other people as well that we're not even thinking of.
03:28:18.596 --> 03:28:20.737
[UNKNOWN]: Who have deals that are either up or coming up and...
03:28:21.642 --> 03:28:23.443
[UNKNOWN]: You're probably gonna see some people going back and forth.
03:28:23.643 --> 03:28:23.803
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:28:24.603 --> 03:28:26.544
[UNKNOWN]: Changes scenery isn't necessarily a bad thing.
03:28:26.644 --> 03:28:27.585
[UNKNOWN]: And it's phone for the fans?
03:28:28.145 --> 03:28:28.305
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:28:28.325 --> 03:28:36.049
[UNKNOWN]: If you're ready for the phone I did on it, if we do five on five war games, do we have LA Night, Jacob Fattu, or Drew McIntyre on 946's team?
03:28:37.830 --> 03:28:39.811
[UNKNOWN]: Also, glad Melo is in 946.
03:28:40.071 --> 03:28:41.591
[UNKNOWN]: He would have been lost in AEW.
03:28:41.952 --> 03:28:42.852
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that was never gonna happen.
03:28:44.973 --> 03:28:47.194
[UNKNOWN]: I, Jacob Fattu's the only one.
03:28:47.734 --> 03:28:49.935
[UNKNOWN]: I know we talked about LA Night, that's the possibility as well.
03:28:49.955 --> 03:28:50.876
[UNKNOWN]: Drew McIntyre, no.
03:28:52.917 --> 03:28:54.082
[UNKNOWN]: I would like to see him on Raw.
03:28:55.169 --> 03:28:57.030
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he fits into the 946 thing.
03:28:57.050 --> 03:28:58.530
[UNKNOWN]: Do you see him fitting into that?
03:28:58.550 --> 03:28:59.311
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
03:28:59.351 --> 03:29:07.674
[UNKNOWN]: Only if the idea is, again, he's coming back with the idea of like, I don't like Roman, right?
03:29:07.694 --> 03:29:10.455
[UNKNOWN]: Remember he was going to be the bloodline hunter that will period.
03:29:11.355 --> 03:29:14.596
[UNKNOWN]: And the last time we saw him, he lost the Jacob, and WrestleMania.
03:29:15.236 --> 03:29:17.557
[UNKNOWN]: So again, I could see it potentially.
03:29:18.358 --> 03:29:21.859
[UNKNOWN]: He's got issues with the blood, let's say like L.A. Nite L.A. Nite has issues with the bloodline
03:29:26.201 --> 03:29:26.702
[UNKNOWN]: I could see it.
03:29:27.402 --> 03:29:28.243
[UNKNOWN]: Not joining them.
03:29:28.624 --> 03:29:30.746
[UNKNOWN]: No.
03:29:30.866 --> 03:29:31.647
[UNKNOWN]: David Rice.
03:29:31.947 --> 03:29:33.149
[UNKNOWN]: What's up, brother?
03:29:33.189 --> 03:29:43.039
[UNKNOWN]: I've been on record before and saying that there has been a noticeable effort post-summerslam in WWE to give us better television matches, Gabel Penta Phoenix regularly, and others have been killing it lately.
03:29:43.059 --> 03:29:43.279
[UNKNOWN]: Yes?
03:29:43.880 --> 03:29:45.021
[UNKNOWN]: It is very noticeable.
03:29:46.029 --> 03:29:47.530
[UNKNOWN]: very noticeable.
03:29:47.610 --> 03:29:51.072
[UNKNOWN]: I think post-Summer Sun has been better than WrestleMania season, be quite honest with you.
03:29:51.612 --> 03:30:03.558
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think the overall vibe and I mean, nothing is ever perfect, but there's down weeks, but I think the overall vibe is that it's mostly better than the WrestleMania.
03:30:03.678 --> 03:30:07.240
[UNKNOWN]: Big Bolivian cock.
03:30:08.161 --> 03:30:08.401
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the
03:30:12.528 --> 03:30:19.011
[UNKNOWN]: the description dropped wrestling because of how bad the currents have it.
03:30:19.051 --> 03:30:19.931
[UNKNOWN]: It's quite the description.
03:30:20.151 --> 03:30:25.793
[UNKNOWN]: Drop wrestling because of how bad current things are got a new girlfriend and she is into it.
03:30:26.274 --> 03:30:28.134
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm back into this hell.
03:30:28.254 --> 03:30:30.035
[UNKNOWN]: Need to catch up on the last nine months.
03:30:31.996 --> 03:30:32.896
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to.
03:30:34.317 --> 03:30:38.499
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can just, I mean, just anything post-summer slim.
03:30:38.619 --> 03:30:40.159
[UNKNOWN]: Don't even go back to going into
03:30:43.080 --> 03:30:47.363
[UNKNOWN]: Start before summer slam going to the summer slam and then just catch up now nine months is way too long.
03:30:47.383 --> 03:30:58.872
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't really miss much of anything Zach reclon with a 20 being in L. A night fans like being a Charlie Brown fan about to kick the football just for Lucy Triple H to pull it away at the last second.
03:30:58.892 --> 03:31:01.274
[UNKNOWN]: And then we end up falling right on our ass.
03:31:01.554 --> 03:31:02.135
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, to us for life.
03:31:02.155 --> 03:31:07.559
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's certainly way to put it What would you what would you attribute to being an L. A night fan?
03:31:07.579 --> 03:31:08.560
[UNKNOWN]: What would be the comparison there?
03:31:10.517 --> 03:31:12.178
[UNKNOWN]: I'm being a mess man.
03:31:12.438 --> 03:31:13.939
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, kind of being a mess man.
03:31:14.099 --> 03:31:15.139
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly in some ways.
03:31:15.619 --> 03:31:27.485
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god Russell West with a lot of 99 ran the fact Daryl Strawberry is the only player for all All-for-New York play.
03:31:27.505 --> 03:31:34.588
[UNKNOWN]: I guess playing on all the original teams Yankees met Dodgers and Giants What five men would you book for a main roster iron survivor match?
03:31:35.949 --> 03:31:37.369
[UNKNOWN]: I Did not know that about Dallas rubber.
03:31:38.330 --> 03:31:38.790
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't either
03:31:39.048 --> 03:31:45.733
[UNKNOWN]: He played for the Yankees met Dodgers and giants and he was one of my favorite players as a kid It was him and Gary Carter.
03:31:45.914 --> 03:31:53.640
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, he had that yeah that that it factor What five men would you book for the iron survivor main roster?
03:31:55.328 --> 03:32:05.171
[UNKNOWN]: I think that you could, again, I pitch that idea weeks ago, like if they wanted to change things up with war games, you could always do Sammy and the people at the top card on Smackdown.
03:32:05.591 --> 03:32:07.092
[UNKNOWN]: You could do an Irish survivor match, too.
03:32:07.492 --> 03:32:14.834
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy, punk Owens, and then almost doesn't even matter who else you plug in there.
03:32:14.854 --> 03:32:15.874
[UNKNOWN]: Go through Valor, yeah.
03:32:16.054 --> 03:32:16.334
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:32:16.835 --> 03:32:17.555
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, you're Randy.
03:32:17.575 --> 03:32:18.355
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah.
03:32:18.515 --> 03:32:19.515
[UNKNOWN]: Take those guys and put them in.
03:32:19.535 --> 03:32:20.136
[UNKNOWN]: That sounds fun.
03:32:20.576 --> 03:32:21.196
[UNKNOWN]: I'd like to see that.
03:32:22.002 --> 03:32:23.043
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Holly, we got a five.
03:32:23.183 --> 03:32:27.228
[UNKNOWN]: You know that the Chelsea and Tiffany rivalry is the same as Naya and Tiffany.
03:32:27.288 --> 03:32:29.190
[UNKNOWN]: Chelsea is Tiffany and Tiffany is nine.
03:32:30.512 --> 03:32:32.554
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we are very aware.
03:32:32.994 --> 03:32:34.957
[UNKNOWN]: I've pointed this out many times before.
03:32:34.997 --> 03:32:36.779
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, which is why I didn't want to see them do this.
03:32:36.839 --> 03:32:40.823
[UNKNOWN]: No, uh, Supreme with one eye to nine does Naya jacks take now.
03:32:43.995 --> 03:32:45.055
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a jack's take now.
03:32:45.075 --> 03:32:56.377
[UNKNOWN]: We spot if she isn't ready bro enough enough please nobody wants to see it I think you made me the only person to do that wants to see it MGM ball and one ninety nine.
03:32:56.397 --> 03:32:58.358
[UNKNOWN]: Should we give up on J.D.
03:32:58.398 --> 03:32:59.318
[UNKNOWN]: watching sopranos?
03:32:59.698 --> 03:33:01.898
[UNKNOWN]: No It'll happen.
03:33:02.499 --> 03:33:08.500
[UNKNOWN]: No, let's guys give it up on me I'm giving up on you the way that I've given up on L.A. That becoming a world champion.
03:33:09.260 --> 03:33:09.460
[UNKNOWN]: WWE.
03:33:09.520 --> 03:33:09.840
[UNKNOWN]: There you go
03:33:10.757 --> 03:33:36.215
[UNKNOWN]: out furious for the four nine and so apparently i just seen that sr s blocked nicklopic low on x after calling sap out said that sap just can't take any criticism to be on a lesson and i stay at it i stay at it nick is uh... is vicious you don't want to you don't make enemies when don't stony with a five-hour super chat shout out to don't tell me rustling soups people media and as always rest in peace given castle stony thank you brother hope you are well my friend
03:33:37.572 --> 03:33:42.293
[UNKNOWN]: If you're ready for the 499 also, what do you thought on Sherling Guerrero following in her father's footsteps?
03:33:42.993 --> 03:33:45.234
[UNKNOWN]: Wouldn't be shocked if we see her in WWE soon.
03:33:46.594 --> 03:33:48.814
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're hearing about a lot of this lately.
03:33:50.155 --> 03:33:53.075
[UNKNOWN]: Dom's sister just started at the PC as well.
03:33:53.475 --> 03:33:53.635
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:33:54.336 --> 03:33:58.356
[UNKNOWN]: So a lot of second and third generation blood coursing through the Performance Center.
03:34:00.017 --> 03:34:00.377
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
03:34:00.737 --> 03:34:01.157
[UNKNOWN]: I like that.
03:34:03.417 --> 03:34:30.638
[UNKNOWN]: uh... but what does that mean for the future though how many how many more uh... neppo baby problems were going to be getting in the next week wait to wait till we get a j's out in there uh... all you matter time that's all he better time uh... michael crowds of the two nine jacks and lash in the bloodline thought she'd be no i don't know michael i think you're following in supreme foot steps don't do that spanish goddess well the four ninety-one
03:34:31.531 --> 03:34:34.232
[UNKNOWN]: God, the whole bloodline and unforeseen true storyline is a snore.
03:34:34.993 --> 03:34:39.195
[UNKNOWN]: I rather watch the other mommy horror movie than keep watching this boring storyline.
03:34:40.155 --> 03:34:41.896
[UNKNOWN]: And then he also falls up with a one-nine denying it.
03:34:41.916 --> 03:34:42.516
[UNKNOWN]: You'll like this one.
03:34:42.556 --> 03:34:45.258
[UNKNOWN]: Solomon's really goat of wrestling podcasts.
03:34:46.698 --> 03:34:49.099
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Spanish goddess.
03:34:49.480 --> 03:34:50.460
[UNKNOWN]: He's always supporting it.
03:34:50.540 --> 03:34:53.562
[UNKNOWN]: If you had seen other mommy, you wouldn't be making that comment.
03:34:55.462 --> 03:34:55.763
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
03:34:57.403 --> 03:34:58.564
[UNKNOWN]: I'll wait for it to hit peacock.
03:35:00.435 --> 03:35:26.516
[UNKNOWN]: furious for the four night and I know you out no no no hold on a second now you are not waiting for it to hit peacock when obsession is on peacock and you still haven't watched I know I know so if you have if you watch other mommy on peacock before you watch obsession then then then then the show is over that's it all right all right if you're as dead for the four night so I mentioned aced w earlier have you ever heard of this heel tag team called sent to slaughter of danym
03:35:29.719 --> 03:35:56.943
[UNKNOWN]: with Josh shernoff no uh... well i mean a dead moth i know dead moth but we call the match of his and how to go here yeah that's them off your your talking about as far as the team though i'm not i'm not familiar with the team no uh... supreme one i didn't sorry but she is a bloodline member technically yes she is nobody wants to see her on that television never mind the bloodline so
03:35:57.911 --> 03:35:58.751
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, please.
03:35:59.572 --> 03:36:03.593
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's everything we got for the super chats.
03:36:04.294 --> 03:36:05.074
[UNKNOWN]: I think that is it.
03:36:05.834 --> 03:36:06.755
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys very much, man.
03:36:06.775 --> 03:36:07.535
[UNKNOWN]: You guys killed the tonight.
03:36:08.935 --> 03:36:14.758
[UNKNOWN]: I don't leave it to this guy to sound us off for another great week here on Tuesday night Titans.
03:36:15.484 --> 03:36:29.790
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, for all the surprises that we saw this week, we saw one last night with Carmelo Hayes, the biggest surprise came earlier this past week with the Facebook post, did you see this from Neckro Butcher?
03:36:30.210 --> 03:36:30.890
[UNKNOWN]: I did see this.
03:36:31.191 --> 03:36:36.633
[UNKNOWN]: And that he has signed a WWE Legends contract, even though he never wrestled for WWE.
03:36:37.433 --> 03:36:38.654
[UNKNOWN]: He's a big death match guy.
03:36:38.674 --> 03:36:40.696
[UNKNOWN]: He was just on the dark side of the ring this season.
03:36:41.037 --> 03:36:44.540
[UNKNOWN]: Talking about his match with Samoa Job, he showed the screenshot.
03:36:44.560 --> 03:36:46.262
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently this was a Nick content.
03:36:47.263 --> 03:36:51.127
[UNKNOWN]: And the reason behind it has to do with being able to get him in the video game.
03:36:51.987 --> 03:36:54.370
[UNKNOWN]: Because they did this with new jack a few years ago.
03:36:54.390 --> 03:36:56.612
[UNKNOWN]: That was something that Nick Con was responsible for.
03:36:57.072 --> 03:36:58.534
[UNKNOWN]: And I guess it did well enough that
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[UNKNOWN]: They wanted Necro in there, so now he is under a WWE legend's deal, and I guess for 2K 27 you'll be able to play his Necro butcher.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how many of the new generation I'm going to know who he is, but let me find out that Nick Khan's a gamer, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe a gay?
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[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he's sitting there playing the DLC packs, you think?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think so, with his son, yeah, I could see that.
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[UNKNOWN]: On his on the flight to Riyadh?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, on the Switch too, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can see it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Francis Lu and with this fight all see which I what do you call a four on four match and survivor series and eight man tag elimination hint hint bloodline verse nine four six the reason why Carmella and Jada join nine four six because they move to Oakland Carmella didn't move to Oakland.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know about Jada.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Carmella moved to Oakland.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, guys, thank you very much for all your support.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll be back next Tuesday with more here on Tuesday night Titans.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you guys need anything, you know what to find Jason will be live for dynamite tomorrow only the dynamite portion, not the collision portion, but if you guys want to go for three more three more hour.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, go follow Jason on social media on YouTube and then you're going live for Russell Dremont Saturday or no, I'm not planning on it right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: I keep an eye on me, I don't know what I'm doing either, so thank you guys again, hit that thumbs up, leave a comment down below, always love seeing your comments after the show posts and we'll see you next week right here for more on Tuesday night times, we'll see you guys later.