Unlearning Scarcity & Hustle: Loneliness, Authentic Connection & Somatic Healing

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All right. Yeah.
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Isn't it funny how we lie to each other? You know,
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it took me about 33 years to figure out that
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when people asked, how are you? It was just them
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saying hello. They didn't actually want you to tell them
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how they are. And so for the long, my entire life,
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people would be like, hey, Savannah, how are you? And
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I'd be like, well, you know. And just start going
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into like this or that. And then they would just
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glaze over and like walk away or just not listen.
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And so I did finally condition myself to just say, oh,
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I'm doing great. How are you? Everybody else, even though
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it's not always true. And then now here we are
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still doing it.
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Very true. Very true. I actually had that happen the
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other day. I ran into a young woman who went
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to school with my son and we were talking and
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then she said, so how are you guys? And I,
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I didn't, I didn't couch it. I said, well, you know,
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things have been, things have been chaotic, but we're good.
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Like we're here. And she was like, oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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And I think maybe it's in how we, how we
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present that, right? Like we can say what is true
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for us without needing somebody to feel like they need
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to make it better.
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Yeah. I think that is the problem is that we
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don't know, other people don't know how to address it
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when we do, when we are honest. But when we're honest,
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it gives everybody else permission to be honest as well.
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Very true.
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But in a society that is vastly, I don't want
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to say broken, unhealed, needs a lot of healing, right?
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Human communication and connection is a huge part of that healing,
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but people who don't have their needs met and need
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a lot of healing and human connection and communication also
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aren't very good at being brief and matter of factly
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with what they have going on. So a lot of
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people are afraid of, you know, opening a can of
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worms and I get it. Like I'm there on both
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ends for a long time. I was the one that
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was starved for that human connection and that communication. And
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so given the opportunity when somebody, and it didn't start
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out that way, it didn't start out with me. As
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soon as someone asked me how I was, I just
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went into a whole spiel. But it came... Everything's a teeter-totter,
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and we overcorrect when we learn things before we balance out.
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And I think we're... It's so funny that I hear
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so many people talk about how kids these days don't
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know how to communicate because of phones or technology or
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texting or whatever. But I'm finding that... All generations, like
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across all generations, we've had a really hard time learning
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how to properly communicate with one another for a while.
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You know, I'm very close with my I've always been
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very close with my grandparents. They. They really had a
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big impact on my life when I was growing up,
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and I'm just now noticing that in their 70s, they're
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not super great communicators.
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Right.
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I think it's just our culture. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I think we can only know what
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we know. Like that's, that's just how it is. And
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if we're not taught certain things, we, we can't know,
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we can't know how to do them. We can't know them.
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And I know like in the communication space, I noticed
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a real shift probably maybe about like 10, 15 years ago.
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I thought it was really interesting when, when, for, for
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me and the group of people that I grew up with,
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when you would meet somebody, you would talk about what
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you did. Like, that was like, what do you do?
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Or where do you live? And those were the, like,
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that was like the conversation starter. And about 10, maybe
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10 years ago, somehow that shifted. And to talk about
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what you did seemed like it was like really wrong.
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And I was like, oh, that's interesting. You know, but
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I think if, if, um, So generationally, I think there
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are different ways that people communicate with about what's acceptable,
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what is real. A lot of people don't want to
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share who they really are or they don't know who
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they really are. I think one of the biggest things
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that I've seen in the communication space is just that
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people aren't listening to have a conversation. They're listening... like
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they're already thinking like, what am I saying next? Like
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they're kind of like up here in their head space. Um,
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but I find like with, with younger kids today, even
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though they're always on their phone and, and whatever they're doing, um,
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I find that their communication is really clear and direct
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a lot, which I really like, you know, there's not
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a lot of pretense or, um, obfuscation to what it
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is that they're saying. They're just direct about it. You know,
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they might not be great about getting on the phone
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to ask, like to call a doctor, which I understand.
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But when there is a true conversation, I find it
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to be very, very clear and kind of insightful in
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a way that I haven't experienced. But yeah, I mean,
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learning to communicate is, is, learning. It's not like, I
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think we've just sort of taken it for granted that,
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you know, we talk, but talking is not necessarily communicating.
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It's not.
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And I really had to figure it out. I had,
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I didn't understand the point of small talk for a
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really long time, but now that I have connections and
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people in my life that, you know, I've built relationships with,
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I can look back and see that, oh, I didn't
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understand the point of small talk because I needed that
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deeper connection that wasn't being met. So small talk just
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seemed mundane and irritating and a waste of time because
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we needed to address the real things, you know? And
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now that I have those connections and relationships, I can
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look and be like, oh, now I see that the
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point of small talk is to... Connect with people that you,
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because I saw something the other day that said we
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only have the capacity to maintain five deep connections with people,
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like five relationships that are deep and meaningful. So then
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we get into the bandwidth problem and how everybody's stretched thin.
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So small talk gives us that. gives us a tool
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to connect with people without going, without going into our
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deeper bandwidth that we don't have.
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Well, you know, you said, you mentioned about like sort
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of the pendulum swing or the teeter totter. I've called
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it a pendulum swing where we go to one extreme
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and then we go to the other and hopefully we
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find the balance in between. You know, but I, I
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think we've, we've gone to, because of technology, we've gone
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to kind of a, like a, you know, turtling, um,
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and isolation because everything is kind of like up in
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our mental body space and the, and the, those connections
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aren't the way that, that they have been in the past.
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And then we're seeing a lot of loneliness, um, coming
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up for people and, um, searching for connection and not
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really knowing how to, how to find it. And, you know,
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for me, like many years ago, I was looking at like,
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what is loneliness? Cause that's what I do. I look
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at things energetically. So what is the root of loneliness?
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And the thing that I got was that loneliness, because
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anything that we're feeling is telling us that there's something
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there to be healed or there's something there to be learned.
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And so in looking at loneliness, I got that what
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was really being asked of ourselves was to fill ourselves
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with ourself first and then move outward from there. And
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so I think that coming back to communication, it is
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a process that lets us really kind of explore who
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we are in relationship to other people And what is
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it that we're seeking from other people that maybe we
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can be giving to ourselves or need to be giving
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to ourselves first rather than it coming externally? So I think,
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I mean, there's so much in communication in terms of
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what we're working on and how we work on it.
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I find it really fascinating.
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Absolutely. Yeah, I do too in a lot of different ways.
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I came across this thing. That's how I lead into
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new topics a lot. I came across this thing.
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The thing being.
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I was just cleaning my camper and listening to music.
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That's all I was doing. That's how I meditate. Cleaning
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and mundane gardening and listening to music. Because sometimes my
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brain's just thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts. Like most people's are.
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And that's how I give my thoughts space to exist
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if I do have things that I need to work
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through emotionally, mentally, whatever, whatever, problem solving. And I came
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to the conclusion that we, and this isn't like newfound
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information or anything, it's just kind of like an aha moment,
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like things clicked in my head, is that we need
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the person that we are by ourselves to be the
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same person that we are with other people and that's
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a really hard bridge to move through and we think
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that a lot of times because we a lot of
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times we think that we heal the thing that's been
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bothering us you know we we finally got over our
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confidence problems we finally got over our um I don't
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know self-esteem is the same thing as confidence more or
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less but Whatever it is that we've been trying to heal,
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whatever we've been trying to get past, and then something happens,
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and then everything comes crashing down, and it's like, oh, actually,
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we didn't heal it completely. We just made the gap smaller.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah, I mean, I would say we found a layer
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to it, and we peeled it off, right?
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Yeah.
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When we have a wound that we want to heal
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in an unaware space, what we end up doing is going,
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going back to that situation over and over again, trying
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to heal it, but we just compound it. We just
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get another layer and another layer because, because we're, we
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don't like, we don't know yet what it is that
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we're trying to heal or release or clear, you know,
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whatever it is that's going on there. So when we
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start the process of, of having that awareness, like we
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take a layer off and then, and then we move
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through our days in a different concept of ourselves, right? Like,
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like we feel different and we, we experience differently. And
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then as you said, something happens and it's like, you know,
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it's like all of a sudden it's like, Oh, that's
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the thing again. And it's here. And, a lot of
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times people think that they've gone backwards and you haven't
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gone backwards. You've just hit a deeper layer of it.
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And now it's time to get rid of that layer.
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So when we can move from that unaware space of
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that stuff happening into the awareness of like, Oh, this
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is just how healing and growth happens. It gets so
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much easier because instead of feeling like we failed, or
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like I said, we've gone backwards and, we realize like,
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oh yeah, like I hit another layer. So let me
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just dig myself through this and get to the other
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side of it. And eventually you do get to the
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root of whatever that wound is and you clear it.
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And then it's kind of like an echo that sits
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out here where you realize like, oh, I used to
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react and respond this way. I can still feel it
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out there, but I'm not. And that's really like a
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cool place to get to. And you're like, yeah, I
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don't have to do that anymore.
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Yeah. And our mind lies to us and it tries
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to make things better that, you know, we tell ourselves, oh,
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we're just being dramatic. It's not that big of a deal. Oh,
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I should just get over it. It's really not that
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it's it's not that deep. But there's this book who
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wrote it. It's called The Body Keeps Score. Have you
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ever heard of it?
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No.
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Well, let me see.
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I'm getting echoes of Candice Peart's Molecules of Emotion, though.
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Yes, I've read half of that one. I got bored
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and distracted. I am at world's worst about starting books
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and then putting them down and then picking them back
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up and then putting them down. So at any given time,
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I'm reading like five.
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I went to Naropa and saw Candice in person. And
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the first five minutes, my brain was just going, like,
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I couldn't understand anything that she was saying. My brain
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was just like, what? Like, is she actually speaking? Like,
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I can't understand. I kept looking around at everybody in
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the audience. I was like, is it just me? And
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then something happened and my brain, like, shifted. And then, like,
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everything changed. was able to kind of come in and process,
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but you know, her level of communication was so, um,
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like just at such a level of, of complexity that
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it just took my brain that amount of time to
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actually click into where she, like the love, like where
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she was speaking from, but it was amazing. Um, I
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always loved her information and I love that book, like
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the whole idea that that our, you know, emotions live
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in the, in the cellular, in every cell of our being, right?
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Cellular memory, which makes total sense, right? When you, cause you're,
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we're not like a thing, we're the whole thing. So
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when we have an experience that lives in us in
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this deeper way, which, you know, is really, I think,
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you know, why I love to look at things from
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the energetic perspective, because I'm really like digging in and
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looking at like, what is this and why is it
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showing up this way? And how is it impacting this
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person this way? And then why does it show up
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in everybody else's life in similar ways, but not exactly
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the same way? You know, that just fascinates me. I
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love to just dig in and find those answers. And
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I just, it's fun, right? Like it's when your work
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gets to be fun, it's fun.
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a one size fits all. So every little thing has
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to be individualized to the depths of infinity and beyond. Yeah.
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culture and society has taught us to individualize everything. You know,
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it's the individualism versus collectivism in cultures and And that's
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why Eastern cultures are more collectivists. So they're more focused
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on harmony and balance between all of the systems. And
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that's why they're, we can, I don't pretend to know
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how they experience life. You know, I've always lived over
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here in the Western culture. So the grass is always
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greener on the other side, you know? We are more
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individualists over here. Our culture is more individualistic. And you
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can see that in all of the layers of what
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we've built between our relationships and between our systems and
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how they work and our medical system. For example, the
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podiatrist doesn't talk to the neurologist. Oh, I know.
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It drives me crazy. But they used to.
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They used to before, before it became capitalistic, right? Like
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medicine used to be more holistic in a sense, like
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still working on the Western concept of medicine, treating the
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symptom and not the whole being. But you know, you
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go to your, your GP and they could talk to
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you about anything, right? They weren't like, Oh, you got
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to go see the cardiologist. You got to go do this.
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You got to go do that. And, and now they're,
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you know, everything is so separate that I, you know,
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I think they, they miss a lot because they're not
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working with the whole body. They're working with you as a,
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as a subset of conditions or symptoms within, within your,
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your being. Um, But it's interesting. I think that the
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Eastern philosophies are more... I'm trying to find new words
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for all of this, but I haven't found them yet.
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So I'm going to use the words that I have.
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The Eastern philosophies are more feminine in nature. They're more collaborative, communicative, holistic, um, whole,
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like whole where, you know, the Western dynamic is much
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more masculine in its nature of individual and linear and, and, um, uh,
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you know, this power structure, right? Like And I think
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that's what we're really, as a collective, we're trying to
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find this place where we can find the balance of
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these two dynamics. And people will say the feminine is rising.
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And it is. It's never not been there. It is
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taking more of a lead and asking to create this
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balance between these two dynamics. And that's where I was
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looking at this over the summer, trying to find the
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right words for it, because I don't like feminine and masculine.
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And I was looking at the yin-yang and how that
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just is so perfect in an illustration of the energies
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in general, with yin being receptive and bringing it in
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and processing. But within the yin is the yang, because
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you need that energy to move forward. And then, you know,
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the young is about action and movement and, and getting
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things done. But again, within the young is the yin because,
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because it all has to keep coming back around and
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around into the cycle. And I think that as a
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collective is where we're trying to get to and what
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so much of this, uh, you know, these energy dynamics
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are really all about right now is, um, trying to
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find that balance and of course what is happening physically
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is that that masculine energy dynamic feels threatened and like
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it's something's being taken away from it rather than seeing
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it as an opportunity to create balance and harmony which
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is i think a word that you.
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Just used yeah you know once we lay it all
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out like that it's so simple right just make everything
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more balanced right?
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Just balance it.
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But you know, these, these layers are so deep. We've
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got a lot of scar tissue built around our belief
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systems and our operating systems and just everything. Like something
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I come back to often is that, or not so
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much anymore, but used to, there was a period of
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few years at least in my life where I was like,
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oh my epiphany. So I always thought that I was
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a tomboy because I was raised around boys and men.
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I didn't have a whole lot of positive female role
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models in my life growing up. I just had my
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dad and my uncles and my cousins who were boys
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and then All of my dad's friends were boys. And
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so we went hunting and fishing and four wheelering and just,
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you know, we did all the outdoor mud things. And
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I was in sports and I was always kind of
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like they meant it. They didn't mean to be bullies
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about it. It's just the mentality of the age and whatnot.
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They were constantly, oh, you hit like a girl. Oh,
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you throw like a girl. Oh, you talk like a girl.
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I'm a girl, for one. Right. But when you experience that,
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a child is being constantly taught that being a girl
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isn't enough.
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Right. There's inferiority.
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Yeah, and that you should be more like the boys.
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So that's exactly the type of mentality I took on.
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I refused to wear pink. I did all the boy things, whatever, yada, yada, yada.
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And it wasn't until I had my daughter, which I
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went into actual medical shock when I found out she
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was a girl because I couldn't breathe. I got tunnel vision.
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I nearly passed out. It was right back.
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We got it on camera.
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That's huge.
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Gender reveal party.
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I assumed that me and her would not have a
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good relationship just because. There was nothing I could do.
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She was going to hate me. Period. When she was born,
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it ended up healing a lot of all of that
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for me. It turns out I'm actually quite feminine.
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You know, and I mean, like when you hear things
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like that over and over again, mine was that I
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was stupid, fat and ugly. You know, I thought if
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I look at pictures of myself when I was little,
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I was a twig. And in my mind, I was
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like so big, like, and I wasn't like, uh, you know, those,
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those it takes a while to find our way through that. And,
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you know, I think people who are on a journey
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of healing and discovery, you know, we do it, it
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shows up for us in, you know, the people that
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we meet and the things that we watch, the things
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that we read, you know, there's these moments that come
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to us that are, that give us the ahas, right?
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That give us the deeper healing, the release that we need.
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You know, children are definitely great at that. I know,
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you know, when my son was little, I was really
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angry about something. My mom was sort of like a
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rager and I was there. I tried not to go there,
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but it was there. And he was like three and
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I still can see where we were. And he just
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reached up with his little tiny hands and he put
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them on my face. And he just went, mommy, this
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isn't you. And I was like, yep, you're right. Sorry
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about that. You know, he could just see that, that
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like that energy that was there was just not who
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I truly was. And I, you know, they, I just
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love kids. So many moments with him when he was little.
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We were walking to the subway and somebody had asked
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me about doing a pilot for like a reality TV show.
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And I was going through the motions of doing it,
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but it didn't feel right. And I was just crying
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all the time because there was so much like fear
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coming up in my space about doing, because it wasn't right.
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It just was not the right thing. And we were
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walking into the subway. I hadn't said anything to him
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about anything. And we were, we always held hands and
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he just looked at me and he goes, mom, it's okay.
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People will be really happy to see you when they
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see you.
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Okay, little man, you know, like, you know, so I just,
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I think if we'd listen to kids, there's, there's so much,
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there's so much clarity in what they say. And I,
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I think, you know, sometimes people dismiss kids because they
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are young, but there's so much clarity in them. I
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love them so much.
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Yes. I didn't know I liked kids until I was 18.
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in my twenties. I'd never really been around kids other
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than kids my age. And those were a nightmare. So
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when I was in my twenties, I started having friends
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who had kids and I was like, okay. And I
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slowly started to figure out how to talk to them
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and how to be around them and how to redirect
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them and, you know, guide them away from this and
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towards that. And, uh, here we are years and years later.
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And it turns out I would rather be around a
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kid than an adult any day because adults are just
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a complete wreck and kids are honest and true and straightforward,
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like you said earlier. And it's just such a breath
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of fresh air to not have to jump through all
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the mental hoops and, uh, analyze like okay they said
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this but did they mean that because it kind of
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felt like the vibes were a little off and but
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kids just are straightforward and the more healing we do
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and this has been said a million million times by
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a million different people the more healing we do the
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more we find out that we actually are still that
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child that we were yeah under all the layers of
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trying to change ourselves and mask ourselves to be more
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appeasing to the outside world. You know, it's just that, again,
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it's that bridge of being who we are by ourselves
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versus who we are around other people. Yeah.
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Well, you know, for me, like the way, the way
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that I, I've come to understand it, which is more
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metaphysical is that, you know, We as spiritual entities are
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working to, like there's a reason for all of this, right?
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We are trying to get to the place where we
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can harness the power that we have as the spiritual
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entity in a physical body because out of the body,
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we can't do anything with it, right? It's just like,
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we just have it. We can't do anything with it.
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But once we have a physical body, then.
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We can do things. We can do really cool things.
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We can manifest. We can heal. You know, we can
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actually create really amazing things, but every time that we've
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tried to do it, we grossly messed it up because
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the ego and the mind, you know, and the unevolved
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aspects of, of who we can be, take hold. And
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so we end up being destructive and creating things that
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are not helpful and devastating. We just can't handle the
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ability to do what it is to have that power.
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So the journey that I see us on, every time
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that we incarnate, what we're doing is we're trying to
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see Can I get to this place where I can
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be a whole being and access this ability? And so
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we come in and we have these agreements with the
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people in our lives that I think at the spirit level,
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like make sense. But then when we finally get in,
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it's like the way that they manifest. We're like, what
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is this? Like, why am I in this family that
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completely diminishes me every turn that like every step that
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I take?
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Grabs in a bucket. Right.
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But so, you know, the reason is because what we
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wanted to learn was how to claim ourselves, like how
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to stand up to that, how to, but it never,
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once we get here, it like, it gets like, you know,
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it kind of rolls out of control and, and then,
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and then we forget and then, and then we've got
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to relearn it. And sometimes we go through our entire
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lifetime and we don't ever relearn it. We just like,
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you know, but on the spirit level, that lifetime is
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like a blink of an eye. It's not, it's like
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such a drop in the bucket to the entire whole.
479
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So we are doing our own stuff and the collective as,
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as a whole is working to evolve into that, into
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that space as well. So, I mean, I just, you know, again,
482
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I love, I love looking at things from this perspective
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because it's just, I don't know, it's fun and it's fascinating.
484
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.680
And I think when we can, move our healing into
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an aware space, it just makes it so much easier
486
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.750
because then we're like, oh, okay, like I get it.
487
00:32:02.859 --> 00:32:06.529
Like I'm working on how to validate myself. So now
488
00:32:06.589 --> 00:32:11.890
I'm being confronted with the situation where people aren't seeing
489
00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:15.170
me for who I am. And my opportunity is to
490
00:32:15.210 --> 00:32:17.960
be in a space of, I don't care, right? Like
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00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.000
I got to get to that place of, I don't
492
00:32:20.059 --> 00:32:21.940
need them to see me for who I am because
493
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.390
I know who I am. But as long as we're
494
00:32:24.410 --> 00:32:27.230
in that space of like, see me, tell me who
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00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:30.170
I am, then this person has power over us and
496
00:32:30.210 --> 00:32:35.789
this situation will control us. So I'll stop now.
497
00:32:35.970 --> 00:32:40.480
You're fine. Talk as much as you like. It gets
498
00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:46.480
really sticky though when we find some people are easier
499
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.980
to do that with than others, right? So we may
500
00:32:51.019 --> 00:32:55.549
find ourselves in a position where just on your regular
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00:32:55.750 --> 00:32:58.869
day-to-day basis, when you're out and about in the world,
502
00:32:59.049 --> 00:33:06.299
interacting at work, at school, in the community, whatever, you
503
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.819
feel pretty vibrant. You feel very like nobody really has
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00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.349
power over you because you're confident in yourself and you're
505
00:33:14.849 --> 00:33:18.410
If someone does have a problem, you recognize pretty easily
506
00:33:18.470 --> 00:33:20.710
that that's a them problem, not a you problem. And
507
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.059
you meet it with kindness and compassion because that's what
508
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.119
you have to do. But then you get over here
509
00:33:26.140 --> 00:33:32.180
in the more like family relationships and whatnot and things
510
00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:36.599
are completely different and everything falls apart. And then, you know,
511
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:40.710
in our heads, things get muddled. They get blurry and
512
00:33:40.730 --> 00:33:47.769
the lines are hard to... navigate because your truth doesn't
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00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.910
align with their truth and what you see as right
514
00:33:51.950 --> 00:33:56.890
and wrong, they see opposite, uh, you know, so because,
515
00:33:56.990 --> 00:33:59.130
you know, again, with the yin and yang, we all
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00:33:59.170 --> 00:34:04.210
have nothing. We're not all rainbows, light and sunshine. None
517
00:34:04.230 --> 00:34:06.880
of us, not a single one of us are all rainbows,
518
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:12.699
light and sunshine all the time. And, um, we have
519
00:34:12.739 --> 00:34:16.019
to come to terms with who we are in all
520
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:20.860
aspects around all people. Not anyway. Yeah. It's called. Yeah.
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00:34:21.940 --> 00:34:24.679
I mean, I think, you know, there's two things here.
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00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:29.389
I mean, one is the area of your life where
523
00:34:29.429 --> 00:34:32.789
you do the bulk of your work. Some people that's work, right?
524
00:34:32.849 --> 00:34:37.980
Like work relationships are like chaotic and stressful and, they're,
525
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.420
they're never, they never feel seen. They never feel valued. Um, they're,
526
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.679
they're always in some sort of, you know, drama in
527
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.010
the workspace. And then the family space is like, great.
528
00:34:50.389 --> 00:34:50.630
Right.
529
00:34:50.769 --> 00:34:53.170
Or for some people it's opposite for some people, they
530
00:34:53.210 --> 00:34:55.090
work on it in every aspect of their life.
531
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Right.
532
00:34:55.510 --> 00:34:58.969
Like I call those the fast trackers. They're like, they're like,
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just bring it to me everywhere and I'll just work
534
00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:06.650
on it. Um, But like with family, one of the
535
00:35:06.690 --> 00:35:09.869
biggest things that I see is that, you know, our
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00:35:09.909 --> 00:35:14.289
family typically will see us through a lens of who
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00:35:14.349 --> 00:35:18.050
we were at a particular point in our life. That's true.
538
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:22.000
They don't see us, you know, in any of the
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00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.480
growth or the evolution that we've had. And, you know,
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it may be that they see us as a seven-year-old.
541
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They may see us as a 14-year-old. They may see
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00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:31.380
us as a 23, like wherever they have kind of,
543
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:39.820
you know, stopped with, with whatever it is, you know,
544
00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:42.690
with who we are, that is the lens that they
545
00:35:42.750 --> 00:35:45.630
see us through. And so when we step into that environment,
546
00:35:47.449 --> 00:35:52.219
we're automatically putting our, like we go into the space
547
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.840
of trying to defend that we are not that person.
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00:35:55.900 --> 00:35:58.940
And as soon as we go into a defense mode,
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00:35:59.860 --> 00:36:00.960
our power is gone.
550
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Right?
551
00:36:01.550 --> 00:36:07.079
So we literally revert back to that age in trying
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to make them see. So again, when we can step
553
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.019
into that aware space of being like, oh, okay, you're
554
00:36:13.059 --> 00:36:16.250
just seeing me through this lens and you can see
555
00:36:16.269 --> 00:36:19.789
me through that lens. That's okay. But I know that's
556
00:36:19.829 --> 00:36:22.329
not who I am. I'm over here and I'm just
557
00:36:22.349 --> 00:36:26.949
going to function as I am. It changes everything. And
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I tell people, If you're going home for the holidays
559
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and this is what happens to you, pre-plan. Know that
560
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.960
this is what happens and know what your responses are,
561
00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:41.159
what you want your reaction to be. Don't go into
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00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:45.030
it just being like, ah, right? Because you know it's
563
00:36:45.070 --> 00:36:48.989
going to happen. So go with what you want to say.
564
00:36:49.010 --> 00:36:51.889
Go with how you want to hold your space and
565
00:36:51.909 --> 00:37:00.510
use it as an opportunity to to play with moving
566
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beyond that picture that they are projecting onto you of
567
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:06.840
who they see you as, because that's not who you
568
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:07.500
are anymore.
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00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.500
Yeah. Coming back to some points you made a little
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bit ago, zooming out. We, how did we all get
571
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here in the first place?
572
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:22.880
Right.
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Cause you know, we're individually working on these things. but
574
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we're also collectively working on these things because the fact
575
00:37:30.780 --> 00:37:34.059
that I'm dealing with X, Y, and Z or that
576
00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:36.500
you're dealing with X, Y, and Z just shows that
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00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.010
there are a lot of people dealing with X, Y,
578
00:37:39.019 --> 00:37:41.960
and Z or A, B, and C or whatever alphabetical
579
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soup you got. And that means that those issues are
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00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:51.519
ingrained into the society, into the culture. And every single
581
00:37:51.619 --> 00:37:54.960
one of us that heals those things within us are
582
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.260
healing the the greater perspective a little bit more so
583
00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:03.940
that the next generation doesn't have to do that too much. Yeah.
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Thousand percent. And I, you know, when I, when I
585
00:38:07.190 --> 00:38:11.889
first started doing this work, it was, it was early on, um,
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two things. I got a spiritual edict, which was not
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to read anybody else's work and not to work with
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any more teachers. So I had my first set and
589
00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:25.909
that was it. And no matter how, like if I
590
00:38:25.969 --> 00:38:33.300
tried like, you know, just spirit universe, whatever source would
591
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.179
be like, Nope, not doing that. Can't do that. And
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I'd be like, all right. So what that gave me
593
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:44.159
was that when I would see things, so I would
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00:38:44.179 --> 00:38:47.179
see things in people and then I would look and
595
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.900
I would see them more broadly and I would, I
596
00:38:51.940 --> 00:38:54.019
would come up with an explanation. I would come up
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00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:56.710
with an understanding of what it was that I was seeing,
598
00:38:57.250 --> 00:39:02.730
put words to it, how to work with it, how
599
00:39:02.769 --> 00:39:05.349
to move through it, whatever it happened to be. And
600
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then as I moved through the years, I would be
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talking to somebody and they'd be, I would say something
602
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:16.679
and they'd be like, Oh, that's like this philosophy or
603
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:21.880
this practice or this person's like this, you know, leader,
604
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:26.530
thought leader said this. And what that gave me was
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00:39:26.590 --> 00:39:31.900
the understanding even more deeply that these are universal truths
606
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.400
right like they came into me like I saw them
607
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:40.139
but then they're being verified in all of these different
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00:39:40.739 --> 00:39:43.579
ways and places and I just you know to me
609
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.079
that was like that was just the coolest thing I
610
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:48.900
was like oh that like I get why I got
611
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.639
this edict now. Like I understand, like it was so
612
00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:55.260
that I could really anchor this in as a universal
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00:39:55.300 --> 00:39:57.989
truth and be like, Hey, like, you know, this showed up,
614
00:39:58.070 --> 00:39:59.989
like I saw it, but then it shows up in
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00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:03.190
all of these other, you know, philosophies and cultures and
616
00:40:03.230 --> 00:40:09.230
religions in whatever way they have seen it. Right. So that,
617
00:40:09.510 --> 00:40:14.019
you know, was fascinating in and of itself. And then again,
618
00:40:14.059 --> 00:40:16.659
like sort of early on, I was working with, with,
619
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women in different parts of the world in one-to-one sessions.
620
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And like one was in India and one was in
621
00:40:22.289 --> 00:40:25.260
China and one was in the Midwest and one was
622
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:29.599
in Canada. And I started to see, like I'm a
623
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.980
pattern seer. Like that's when I see patterns. So I
624
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.139
started to see these like threads of like, wait a minute,
625
00:40:36.179 --> 00:40:39.840
like they're working on the exact same thing, only they're
626
00:40:39.860 --> 00:40:43.630
working on it differently. Like So I started looking for
627
00:40:43.670 --> 00:40:46.769
those threads and I found three common threads that are
628
00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:51.809
across the board. Learning to validate ourselves, learning to own
629
00:40:51.849 --> 00:40:55.710
our truth, and learning to stand in our power. And everything,
630
00:40:56.469 --> 00:40:59.039
for me, I can look at anything that anybody's working
631
00:40:59.179 --> 00:41:01.820
on and I can draw it back to one of
632
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.400
those things as the primary and then how the other
633
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:08.659
two get fed into it. And so just across the board,
634
00:41:09.420 --> 00:41:13.500
collectively and individually, That's what we're working on. We just
635
00:41:13.539 --> 00:41:15.639
work on it in different ways and it shows up
636
00:41:15.699 --> 00:41:16.340
in different ways.
637
00:41:17.889 --> 00:41:21.289
Yeah, we're back to the communication is clunky.
638
00:41:22.409 --> 00:41:23.989
Communication is clunky.
639
00:41:25.449 --> 00:41:29.510
And, you know, we're under this impression that so we
640
00:41:29.610 --> 00:41:32.730
understand that there's thousands of different languages in the world.
641
00:41:33.250 --> 00:41:37.090
You know, we understand that if I don't speak German,
642
00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:41.340
me and someone who only speaks German cannot have a conversation.
643
00:41:42.019 --> 00:41:45.400
But we're under the false pretense that because you speak
644
00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:48.489
English and I speak English, we're speaking the same language.
645
00:41:49.110 --> 00:41:53.030
Mm hmm. And that's not true either. Yeah. Not only
646
00:41:53.050 --> 00:41:56.610
are there and like, you know, linguistics and whatnot, we
647
00:41:56.630 --> 00:42:02.340
can look at it from like stationing in the world.
648
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.099
For example, Great Britain speaks a certain type of English.
649
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:11.659
Mm hmm. uh, the, the Southern United States speaks a
650
00:42:11.699 --> 00:42:15.619
certain type of English and you've got, uh, Midwest English
651
00:42:15.699 --> 00:42:20.630
and you've got, you know, all of Louisiana English, completely different. Um,
652
00:42:21.550 --> 00:42:28.610
but even within the same communities and especially now, since like,
653
00:42:29.150 --> 00:42:32.190
we're getting all more and more mixed up, you know,
654
00:42:32.230 --> 00:42:36.260
there's people traveling all over the place and, um, So
655
00:42:36.409 --> 00:42:40.309
everywhere and everybody's just one big melting pot now from
656
00:42:40.710 --> 00:42:47.989
different cultures and dialects and all the things. So we
657
00:42:48.030 --> 00:42:50.449
have to learn how to be more open-minded in the
658
00:42:50.489 --> 00:42:57.699
sense of asking questions to understand more thoroughly rather than
659
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:02.000
just assuming we know what you mean when you say self-actualization.
660
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:08.780
My last podcast episode that I did, We spent about, gosh,
661
00:43:08.820 --> 00:43:15.619
what is time? Probably five minutes talking about self-actualization from
662
00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:18.320
completely different perspectives before I was like, wait a minute,
663
00:43:18.340 --> 00:43:23.400
wait a minute. What are you defining self-actualization by? And
664
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:28.070
we had, we had different definitions for self-actualization. And like
665
00:43:28.110 --> 00:43:30.449
you spoke earlier on, you know, we don't have the
666
00:43:30.510 --> 00:43:34.090
words for bridging the gap of where we're at right
667
00:43:34.130 --> 00:43:37.329
now and where we're trying to go. And I completely
668
00:43:37.409 --> 00:43:41.510
agree that, and a lot of people believe this right now,
669
00:43:41.570 --> 00:43:49.539
that we had so much knowledge around how to make
670
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.440
everything balanced and harmonized and work with the energies of
671
00:43:54.619 --> 00:43:58.679
our body and the community and the earth and nature
672
00:43:58.940 --> 00:44:02.949
and keep everybody healthy and sane. And, you know, there was,
673
00:44:04.050 --> 00:44:08.630
the theory is, because, you know, getting into ancient history,
674
00:44:09.190 --> 00:44:12.880
the timeline doesn't make sense. The established timeline of history
675
00:44:12.929 --> 00:44:16.840
doesn't make sense, and the more that we discover with...
676
00:44:17.940 --> 00:44:20.679
And a lot of people, this has gotten categorized into
677
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conspiracies and whatnot, but we don't know how the pyramids
678
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:31.280
were made. And there's rain, water erosion on the Sphinx,
679
00:44:32.309 --> 00:44:37.230
and there's just... millions of mysteries in this world. We
680
00:44:37.489 --> 00:44:40.639
know less than what we know to be fact, but
681
00:44:40.940 --> 00:44:44.320
we throw the word fact around like candy, like we
682
00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:49.039
know anything at all. And so the idea is that
683
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we did have these vast amounts of knowledge on how
684
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to do all of this. And then there was some
685
00:44:55.510 --> 00:44:58.210
great cataclysm that kind of wiped everything out. And the
686
00:44:58.269 --> 00:45:02.429
only thing that uh remained the only thing that survived
687
00:45:02.630 --> 00:45:05.269
were things that were made out of stone you know
688
00:45:05.449 --> 00:45:10.349
like the pyramids like the sphinx and stories people's stories
689
00:45:10.969 --> 00:45:14.869
but just like if the world was wiped clear tomorrow
690
00:45:14.909 --> 00:45:16.989
you know if we had an emp and knocked out
691
00:45:17.050 --> 00:45:21.300
all technology indefinitely we have to start from scratch we
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00:45:21.340 --> 00:45:24.199
no longer can communicate on top of that there was
693
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:30.340
um i don't know some earthquakes or some, you know,
694
00:45:30.860 --> 00:45:36.340
Yellowstone erupted, you know, whatever happens. And there's only a
695
00:45:37.090 --> 00:45:39.849
few thousand people left on the earth. We wouldn't know
696
00:45:39.889 --> 00:45:44.429
how to make a computer. We wouldn't know how to
697
00:45:44.449 --> 00:45:48.329
build a car. You know, somebody probably does, but you know,
698
00:45:48.349 --> 00:45:51.070
we would lose a lot of this information, but we
699
00:45:51.090 --> 00:45:56.789
would still have stories of, from the best of our knowledge, understanding,
700
00:45:56.849 --> 00:46:00.070
perspective of just being a single person, a couple of
701
00:46:00.130 --> 00:46:05.420
people who remember the things, trying to explain that to
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00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.400
a new generation who is living in a completely different
703
00:46:09.420 --> 00:46:12.000
world and has, like, what are you even talking about,
704
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:16.349
crazy lady? You know? And now we're aliens because, like, what?
705
00:46:16.369 --> 00:46:19.550
Yeah.
706
00:46:19.710 --> 00:46:24.949
And when you get to all these, like, ancient philosophies of, uh,
707
00:46:25.130 --> 00:46:31.460
different religions, for example, there are bait, there's basic things
708
00:46:31.619 --> 00:46:36.659
in there that are universal, you know, commonalities. Yeah. Be
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00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.780
kind to yourself and others because, uh, take care of
710
00:46:39.820 --> 00:46:43.010
your body, take care of each other. Don't kill people,
711
00:46:43.170 --> 00:46:44.809
you know, pretty simple stuff, honestly.
712
00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:52.039
Well, and, and I think too, that there's, um, You know,
713
00:46:52.059 --> 00:46:55.380
I like looking at the different healing modalities and seeing, again,
714
00:46:55.420 --> 00:47:02.489
like where the similarities are, but how each culture contextualizes
715
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it in their own language and understanding, right? Like, you know,
716
00:47:06.650 --> 00:47:09.150
we can look at traditional Chinese medicine. We can look at,
717
00:47:11.050 --> 00:47:15.420
you know, Native American healing. We can look at shamanism,
718
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:19.719
you know, and there's just all talk about energy.
719
00:47:21.530 --> 00:47:21.769
Right?
720
00:47:21.829 --> 00:47:24.329
How energy impacts us and how it moves through the
721
00:47:24.369 --> 00:47:30.199
body and, and the body is energy. Um, and then
722
00:47:30.260 --> 00:47:35.019
we have, you know, this other subset that wants to
723
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.139
just ignore it, right? That doesn't want to even consider
724
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:41.960
that there is energy and that it's just the symptom.
725
00:47:42.099 --> 00:47:46.440
Like I just, I, I, that is always, um, wild
726
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:51.289
to me how, how how things get to that place.
727
00:47:51.349 --> 00:47:55.980
How do you, how do you take something and extract
728
00:47:56.139 --> 00:48:00.239
a piece of it and make it the whole, right?
729
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.400
Like that is fascinating to me. Like how, what is the,
730
00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:10.019
what is the mindset? Um, which I know is, is very,
731
00:48:10.659 --> 00:48:15.550
you know, mental body. It's, it's, it's figure out how
732
00:48:15.630 --> 00:48:19.880
does this thing happen and then treat the the thing
733
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.320
that's happening, not why is it happening, right? And I
734
00:48:24.389 --> 00:48:28.289
think that we can look at our culture and see
735
00:48:28.349 --> 00:48:33.670
that that is the way that we approach pretty much everything, right?
736
00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:36.750
What is the symptom and what do I do to
737
00:48:36.929 --> 00:48:41.190
stop the symptom, but not why is the symptom happening
738
00:48:43.349 --> 00:48:49.469
versus the more holistic aspect of things, which is And
739
00:48:50.050 --> 00:48:54.110
there's this thing happening. What is leading into it? What
740
00:48:54.230 --> 00:48:59.400
do we do to fix it? I just went off
741
00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:00.159
on a tangent.
742
00:49:01.059 --> 00:49:05.099
No, it's wonderful. That's why I got into the chakra
743
00:49:05.139 --> 00:49:10.570
system like some odd years ago because it made sense
744
00:49:11.190 --> 00:49:15.349
to me from an energetic standpoint because– Coming back to
745
00:49:15.369 --> 00:49:19.210
the books that we were talking about, the Molecules of
746
00:49:19.269 --> 00:49:22.900
Emotion and... and the body keeps score, which is apparently
747
00:49:22.940 --> 00:49:27.639
by Bessel van der Kolk, which I wanted to argue.
748
00:49:27.739 --> 00:49:29.980
I spent too much time arguing with Google about a
749
00:49:30.019 --> 00:49:31.760
second ago when I was looking it up because I
750
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.000
was like, no, I've never heard of this person. It
751
00:49:34.019 --> 00:49:36.820
had to be somebody else, but no, it is. And
752
00:49:37.980 --> 00:49:43.179
essentially it's, you know, back to earlier, we'll lie to
753
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:47.699
ourselves and our mind will be like, it's not that
754
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.639
big of a deal. You're overreacting, especially when the, like,
755
00:49:52.340 --> 00:49:54.679
say you have some trauma that other people are involved
756
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.619
with and nobody wants to think that they were a
757
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.360
bad person, you know, and most people are not bad people.
758
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:07.820
Most people are a product of their own trauma and
759
00:50:07.860 --> 00:50:12.599
their own upbringing and environment and culture and yada yada
760
00:50:12.619 --> 00:50:15.860
whatever whatever and most people are just doing the best
761
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:18.159
that they can with what they have available and what
762
00:50:18.260 --> 00:50:23.570
knowledge they have to them and how they've been the
763
00:50:24.369 --> 00:50:26.789
world's been presented to them is how it works and
764
00:50:26.829 --> 00:50:30.510
whatnot and then we tend to forget that life is
765
00:50:30.610 --> 00:50:34.400
short and that we're only here for a blip in
766
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:39.110
time a very quick blip so everybody's scrambling to do
767
00:50:39.179 --> 00:50:42.159
all of the things that, honestly, do they even matter?
768
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.360
Probably not. Most of what we do, I feel, on
769
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:48.719
a day-to-day basis does not matter. We're all scrambling, trying
770
00:50:48.739 --> 00:50:50.760
to figure out how to be happy and peaceful when
771
00:50:50.780 --> 00:50:54.219
we could just be happy and peaceful instead of trying
772
00:50:54.260 --> 00:50:57.119
to gain X, Y, and Z that we hope will
773
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:02.960
eventually make us happy and peaceful. But anyway, in the book,
774
00:51:03.019 --> 00:51:07.880
The Body Keeps Score, they highlight that because I come
775
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.659
back to this book a lot, because my brain will
776
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:12.659
start lying to me. My brain will start, you know,
777
00:51:12.739 --> 00:51:16.070
it wasn't that big of a deal. You're being dramatic, yada, yada, whatever.
778
00:51:17.030 --> 00:51:20.389
But if you pay attention to how your body reacts
779
00:51:20.670 --> 00:51:25.170
in those situations and circumstances, the body has no ulterior agenda.
780
00:51:25.409 --> 00:51:28.929
It has no motives. You know, it just wants to
781
00:51:28.969 --> 00:51:34.250
be healthy and function. And emotions and feelings are how
782
00:51:34.289 --> 00:51:40.690
the body communicates. with us. So your mind will try
783
00:51:40.750 --> 00:51:44.369
to reason away, but your body just goes, oh, nervous
784
00:51:44.389 --> 00:51:50.130
system activated. We've been here before. So in that sense,
785
00:51:50.190 --> 00:51:52.909
we can trust it a lot more. And then if
786
00:51:52.949 --> 00:51:54.789
we can learn how to trust our body, we can
787
00:51:54.829 --> 00:51:59.769
learn how to identify not only the things that actually
788
00:51:59.809 --> 00:52:03.909
matter and where we should focus and whatnot, but these
789
00:52:04.429 --> 00:52:09.179
traumas do get stuck in our body. And the way
790
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:13.679
I've explained it in the past to clients and students,
791
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:21.619
and I don't know how scientifically accurate this is, medically
792
00:52:21.659 --> 00:52:24.800
speaking and whatnot, but it's a really good way to
793
00:52:25.539 --> 00:52:31.380
explain it to people that emotions, trauma causes emotions. And
794
00:52:31.420 --> 00:52:35.579
then those emotions, what are emotions? They're just chemical reactions
795
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:38.960
in our body, right? And then those chemicals, instead of
796
00:52:39.019 --> 00:52:43.949
being processed out, go get stuck somewhere in our body.
797
00:52:44.809 --> 00:52:49.650
And the chakra system helps us to understand like why,
798
00:52:49.750 --> 00:52:56.409
where those certain emotions get stuck. You know, most of us,
799
00:52:58.030 --> 00:53:00.880
We can have stuck emotions anywhere in our body, but
800
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.019
they do tend to concentrate in like the hips and
801
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:09.960
the shoulders, the neck, those types of places. So sometimes
802
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:15.650
you've done everything physically and externally that you can to
803
00:53:15.670 --> 00:53:19.989
heal something and it's still not healing. But other times, like,
804
00:53:21.389 --> 00:53:27.860
it's amazing what you can heal by simple, I say simple, loosely,
805
00:53:29.329 --> 00:53:35.400

806
00:53:38.139 --> 00:53:40.659

807
00:53:41.699 --> 00:53:44.559

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809
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.710

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00:53:50.769 --> 00:53:53.989

811
00:53:54.030 --> 00:53:58.050
productivity
812
00:53:58.570 --> 00:54:01.590
hustle culture and whatnot of the western world all that
813
00:54:01.650 --> 00:54:07.880
yang masculine energy but also it's um the belief patterns
814
00:54:08.090 --> 00:54:10.440
that I held on to that I was only allowed
815
00:54:10.539 --> 00:54:14.500
to rest when I was sick so I would get
816
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:18.659
sick in order to rest And as soon as all
817
00:54:18.739 --> 00:54:22.420
I did was make the mental connection to that, the connect.
818
00:54:22.500 --> 00:54:25.940
And once I started getting tired and burnt out, I
819
00:54:26.099 --> 00:54:30.219
would allow myself to rest. And then before I got
820
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:33.239
sick and then all of a sudden I'm not getting
821
00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:36.590
sick near as much. Right. Right. Yeah.
822
00:54:36.969 --> 00:54:40.550
You know, I, I've seen that with people, um, again,
823
00:54:40.570 --> 00:54:44.809
going back to the, like how we validate ourselves, um,
824
00:54:45.269 --> 00:54:50.730
you know, Many people, the only time that they have
825
00:54:50.789 --> 00:54:59.639
gotten any kind of meaningful remembering, nurturing, and caring was
826
00:54:59.659 --> 00:55:04.699
when they were sick. And so they repeat the pattern of,
827
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.699
if I get sick, people will care for me, which
828
00:55:07.739 --> 00:55:12.559
is about validation. It's about being seen and valued and nurtured. Um,
829
00:55:12.980 --> 00:55:15.980
so I think that's such a big awareness. Uh, like
830
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.239
it doesn't matter if it's about validation or, or, um,
831
00:55:19.420 --> 00:55:23.420
you know, your, your capacity. Um, but it is like,
832
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:28.360
how do we, how have we fulfilled our needs in,
833
00:55:29.260 --> 00:55:33.389
in any way? And most importantly, in the ways that
834
00:55:33.429 --> 00:55:36.869
don't serve us. And then in recognizing that the shift
835
00:55:36.909 --> 00:55:40.250
that we can make to actually not do those things anymore.
836
00:55:40.789 --> 00:55:40.949
Right.
837
00:55:40.989 --> 00:55:45.780
That's like, And you say simple. I always say spiritual
838
00:55:45.820 --> 00:55:50.090
information is simple, but it's not easy. Healing work is simple,
839
00:55:50.179 --> 00:55:53.349
but it's not easy. It is. It's very simple. It's
840
00:55:53.429 --> 00:55:58.489
like one, two, three. But doing one, two, three is
841
00:55:59.050 --> 00:56:02.190
the work, right? That is where the depth of it
842
00:56:02.230 --> 00:56:09.349
comes in. Back in the late 60s, early 70s, it
843
00:56:09.389 --> 00:56:14.590
was Louise Hay that really started the connection between what
844
00:56:14.610 --> 00:56:18.530
was going on in the physical body and energetically and emotionally.
845
00:56:18.550 --> 00:56:22.510
And she wrote, you can heal yourself. And so she,
846
00:56:23.289 --> 00:56:25.710
she was the founder of Hay House, which of course
847
00:56:25.769 --> 00:56:29.260
is like the, you know, became the mega Mecca of,
848
00:56:29.500 --> 00:56:34.840
of new ageism. And she wrote that book. She had
849
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.320
a different title for it. It didn't, sell so well.
850
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:42.420
And then she self-published it. She was the beginning of self-publishing.
851
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:46.110
She was the beginning of putting new age stuff out
852
00:56:46.139 --> 00:56:54.309
there in that way. But she really brought in and
853
00:56:54.369 --> 00:56:57.510
made that connection between like, hey, your hip is bothering
854
00:56:57.550 --> 00:57:00.900
you or your back is bothering you. It's money issues.
855
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.929
It's mother issues. It's um, you know, use this affirmation,
856
00:57:05.150 --> 00:57:08.590
look at this piece, look at that piece. Um, so
857
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:10.980
I really, you know, I, I feel that, that she was,
858
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:14.039
she's probably not the founder of it, but a founder
859
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:18.460
of that connection between what is going on in our
860
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:23.190
body and, you know, what is, what it's telling us
861
00:57:23.670 --> 00:57:26.250
and how we can use it to, to do our
862
00:57:26.289 --> 00:57:30.559
deeper healing work. Um, And then the other thing you were, well,
863
00:57:30.579 --> 00:57:34.079
a couple of things you were talking about chakras. So
864
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.880
for me, like I start to, I get these nudges
865
00:57:38.219 --> 00:57:40.219
where I'm like, that's not right. That's not right. That
866
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:41.480
feels wrong. Oh, are you gone?
867
00:57:41.500 --> 00:57:44.119
Oh, can you not see me?
868
00:57:44.590 --> 00:57:44.699
No.
869
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:48.010
Yeah. I was just for people who are watching. So
870
00:57:48.050 --> 00:57:50.409
we have notes and stuff. Yes.
871
00:57:50.750 --> 00:57:51.909
Yeah.
872
00:57:53.469 --> 00:57:53.730
Yeah.
873
00:57:53.829 --> 00:57:56.510
She, she passed of, I think a few years ago,
874
00:57:57.469 --> 00:58:02.489
but really amazing lady. Um, but you know, with the chakras,
875
00:58:02.530 --> 00:58:07.860
I started getting these nudges that were like, anytime, like,
876
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:10.739
I mean, I've worked with them for years, so I
877
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:14.840
know them. Um, but anytime I would look up information
878
00:58:14.900 --> 00:58:17.800
and I'd be like, Oh, this just feels so stale
879
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:21.679
and out of date. And so the information that came
880
00:58:21.739 --> 00:58:25.789
into me was, was very different. It was looking at
881
00:58:25.829 --> 00:58:31.079
the chakras, excuse me, as unevolved and evolved aspects. So
882
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:35.940
if in one particular chakra, the energy is unevolved, this
883
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:39.159
is how it will show up for you. And the
884
00:58:39.219 --> 00:58:41.760
journey is to actually move it to the evolved space.
885
00:58:43.349 --> 00:58:46.869
So that like I, I took people through an entire
886
00:58:46.869 --> 00:58:52.969
13 chakras. So going from the core all the way
887
00:58:53.030 --> 00:58:59.780
up to the 12th to really clear out that unevolved,
888
00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:02.340
understand what it was, how it showed up in our life,
889
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:06.789
and then move it into that evolved dynamic. And again,
890
00:59:06.849 --> 00:59:14.360
like simple, uh, deep and intrinsic energy work. Like it just,
891
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.699
there's like a shift, which I just think is so
892
00:59:17.780 --> 00:59:20.800
cool to watch people be like, Oh, like as soon
893
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.679
as you see it, and this is what I say
894
00:59:23.739 --> 00:59:26.050
about energy a lot. As soon as you see it,
895
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:30.019
it can no longer be the same. Like you've already
896
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:35.460
changed it just by seeing it. And, and so if
897
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:38.199
you look at things from that perspective and you recognize
898
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.809
that you're already creating change in your life, you know,
899
00:59:42.929 --> 00:59:47.170
like you having that awareness, like you changed it as
900
00:59:47.210 --> 00:59:49.530
soon as you saw it, you're like, Oh, I don't
901
00:59:49.570 --> 00:59:53.349
need to get sick to rest. And actually that goes
902
00:59:53.409 --> 00:59:57.679
back to that, you know, the patriarchal encodement, um, that
903
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.300
just came in last year for me, which is this
904
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.889
operating system that runs under the surface that is basically
905
01:00:07.269 --> 01:00:12.309
conditioning us to do just that, work yourself to death,
906
01:00:13.010 --> 01:00:18.750
work yourself till you can't do it anymore. And all
907
01:00:18.949 --> 01:00:30.730
in the purpose of fueling this patriarchal energy, right? It's
908
01:00:30.769 --> 01:00:33.409
the guilt of like, I can't put myself first. I
909
01:00:33.449 --> 01:00:38.829
can't rest without having done all of this stuff first.
910
01:00:38.909 --> 01:00:42.690
I can't just sit and take a break. I can't
911
01:00:42.750 --> 01:00:45.710
watch TV. It's lazy. Like all of those things that
912
01:00:45.769 --> 01:00:51.820
come up, that's all encodement that's sitting in our space
913
01:00:52.500 --> 01:00:55.500
that just stops us from, I think, being who we
914
01:00:55.539 --> 01:00:59.389
truly are and living fully as our full essence, which
915
01:00:59.570 --> 01:01:03.150
of course is the purpose of the patriarchal energy. Cap
916
01:01:03.190 --> 01:01:03.650
you down.
917
01:01:05.630 --> 01:01:10.110
Yeah, it's crazy that as adults, we get to make
918
01:01:10.170 --> 01:01:16.250
our own rules, but that's a lot of responsibility. So
919
01:01:16.289 --> 01:01:17.369
people get frozen.
920
01:01:22.690 --> 01:01:27.309
Frozen in like, in that they don't know how to
921
01:01:27.349 --> 01:01:29.710
move forward or like, how do you see frozen?
922
01:01:30.630 --> 01:01:34.340
Lots of different ways. Um, they, it's easier just to
923
01:01:34.380 --> 01:01:39.059
take other people's rules and adopt them as your own
924
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:44.380
instead of, and try to formulate yourself into their system
925
01:01:44.579 --> 01:01:47.010
of rules than to try to figure out your own.
926
01:01:47.409 --> 01:01:51.389
Cause you know, again, our culture and society, how things
927
01:01:51.690 --> 01:01:58.260
are structured. There's a, set of milestones that you're expected
928
01:01:58.340 --> 01:02:02.920
to hit at certain points in time. For example, go
929
01:02:02.940 --> 01:02:06.139
to college and get a good degree, get a good
930
01:02:06.179 --> 01:02:11.869
paying job, buy a house, get married, have children, X, Y, Z.
931
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:15.320
You know, there's like a linear path laid out for you.
932
01:02:16.099 --> 01:02:21.929
And so, but that linear path is not so easily
933
01:02:23.349 --> 01:02:27.750
succeeded in these days you know and um you know
934
01:02:27.769 --> 01:02:31.269
we can always discuss the varying degrees of what makes
935
01:02:31.309 --> 01:02:34.349
it more difficult or less difficult and how people have
936
01:02:34.409 --> 01:02:38.949
changed and how uh the world's changed and just you
937
01:02:38.989 --> 01:02:43.760
know we didn't we didn't update things as everything was
938
01:02:43.820 --> 01:02:49.460
changing because the only constant is change but people don't
939
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:54.880
like change so we get stuck in those patterns, but
940
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:59.239
then we also get stuck in overwhelm. So there's so
941
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:04.050
many things that we should be doing, could be, you know,
942
01:03:04.090 --> 01:03:07.789
quotation marks should be doing, could be doing. How do
943
01:03:07.829 --> 01:03:12.550
we delegate our time and our energy to the multitude
944
01:03:12.650 --> 01:03:16.809
of things that in all honesty, every single one of
945
01:03:16.889 --> 01:03:22.980
us has enough on our to-do list to keep probably
946
01:03:23.019 --> 01:03:27.309
at least three people busy 24-7. So a lot of
947
01:03:27.369 --> 01:03:31.110
us shut down. And then instead of, you know, just
948
01:03:31.150 --> 01:03:33.989
focusing on one thing at a time, just focusing on
949
01:03:34.570 --> 01:03:39.550
this goal or that goal, allowing what doesn't truly matter
950
01:03:39.610 --> 01:03:41.329
to fall over a little bit. You know, we feel
951
01:03:41.349 --> 01:03:44.400
like we have to keep our houses clean and spotless
952
01:03:44.500 --> 01:03:49.340
like the Home and Garden magazines. And we have to
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01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.219
make sure that we're reaching out to all of our
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01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:54.400
friends and family so that they know that we care
955
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:57.179
and love them. And we need to take on this
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01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:00.550
leadership role and that leadership role in the community so
957
01:04:00.610 --> 01:04:10.309
that the kids get fed and properly coached or, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever.
958
01:04:10.329 --> 01:04:14.170
The list could go on of possibilities forever. A lot
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01:04:14.250 --> 01:04:20.710
of us shut down and just disassociate and find distraction
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01:04:20.789 --> 01:04:26.269
with scrolling and watching endless TV shows. So, you know,
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there's a thousand different ways that people cope.
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01:04:30.010 --> 01:04:34.320
Yeah. Well, I mean, I think, you know, what, what
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01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:38.019
I'm hearing or seeing is that, you know, what this
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is really about, you know, people finding, finding what is
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01:04:45.260 --> 01:04:53.090
true for them, And I think that the energies coming
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01:04:53.130 --> 01:05:04.949
from multiple different places, planetarily, culturally, just awareness-wise, like things
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01:05:04.989 --> 01:05:11.010
that are surfacing, is leading people more and more to
968
01:05:11.030 --> 01:05:15.710
this place of looking at what really matters to me
969
01:05:15.909 --> 01:05:18.849
and what is true for me. And like, we're obviously,
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01:05:18.889 --> 01:05:21.570
we're not all going to get to the same place
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at the same time, but the things that happen in
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01:05:24.809 --> 01:05:29.780
our life lead us to that where sometimes we're forced
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01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:34.420
into it. Sometimes we're forced to maybe because we lose
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01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.139
a job or because somebody gets sick or we get
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01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:41.739
sick or whatever it happens to be like we're, we're forced,
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01:05:41.780 --> 01:05:44.199
I call that cosmic corrections, right? Where we're just like
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01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.980
the pressure gets so intense that we have to make
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01:05:47.019 --> 01:05:50.440
a change. But I just see like, if I look
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at young, like the younger generations, I just see them
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01:05:53.090 --> 01:05:57.179
not buying into the stuff that older generations bought into.
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01:05:57.219 --> 01:05:59.070
And I love that for them. You know, I love
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01:05:59.090 --> 01:06:04.630
that they're recognizing that they don't have to give everything
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01:06:04.769 --> 01:06:09.050
to their job, right? They don't, it's not who they are,
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01:06:09.269 --> 01:06:15.070
it's what they do. where I think older generations, what
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01:06:15.110 --> 01:06:18.429
they did was who they were. And then at some point,
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01:06:18.449 --> 01:06:21.429
they might get to the point where they recognize, oh, actually,
987
01:06:21.489 --> 01:06:23.829
maybe what I do is not who I am. And
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01:06:23.869 --> 01:06:26.949
then they go through an identity crisis of, I don't
989
01:06:26.969 --> 01:06:29.750
know who I am, right? Because I'm not what I do.
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01:06:31.510 --> 01:06:34.460
And then we see people who are actually merging what
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01:06:34.500 --> 01:06:36.610
they do with who they are, which I think is
992
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:40.150
that again, going back to that wholeness piece of a
993
01:06:40.210 --> 01:06:43.230
feeling full and complete with, with who we are. So,
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01:06:43.250 --> 01:06:46.570
I mean, I think when we reach that point of,
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01:06:47.070 --> 01:06:54.800
of paralysis, we don't always, we don't always see it,
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01:06:55.099 --> 01:06:59.019
but I think that is when people often see there's
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01:06:59.059 --> 01:07:01.340
something not right here. Like I need to make a change.
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01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:03.480
And what is that change? Like, how do I make
999
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:06.730
that change? And so for me, like it always just
1000
01:07:06.769 --> 01:07:09.010
goes back to what are we working on? How are
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01:07:09.030 --> 01:07:10.909
we working on it? How is it showing up in
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01:07:10.949 --> 01:07:13.929
our life? And I think, you know, if people if
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01:07:13.980 --> 01:07:18.139
they can take anything away from from from my part
1004
01:07:18.179 --> 01:07:21.280
of this conversation today, like I really I really would
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01:07:21.300 --> 01:07:28.219
like it to be this this pause in what we're
1006
01:07:28.260 --> 01:07:32.130
experiencing to look at it and say, what am I
1007
01:07:32.170 --> 01:07:34.940
working on here? Like, what, what is it? What, why
1008
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.440
is this coming up? What is this piece of information?
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01:07:37.500 --> 01:07:39.000
What is it trying to show me? What is it
1010
01:07:39.019 --> 01:07:43.659
trying to tell me? Um, how can I, how can
1011
01:07:43.699 --> 01:07:47.510
I use it to, to grow or to evolve, um,
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01:07:48.110 --> 01:07:51.409
or deepen my connection to myself? Because I think that comes,
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01:07:51.449 --> 01:07:54.530
like you were talking about communication. I think, you know, that,
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01:07:55.389 --> 01:07:58.110
that connection to ourselves comes before we can have that
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01:07:58.150 --> 01:08:02.530
connection externally. Like if we don't, if we don't know
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01:08:02.610 --> 01:08:04.650
who we are, if we're not fully connected to who
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01:08:04.690 --> 01:08:07.420
we are, it's, I think it's difficult to really see
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01:08:08.940 --> 01:08:12.320
people for who they are because we're always kind of
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01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:17.140
a step ahead trying to figure out like, you know,
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01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:19.270
where am I fitting into this picture or who am
1021
01:08:19.369 --> 01:08:21.850
I in this conversation or whatever it happens to be.
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01:08:21.890 --> 01:08:25.529
And I think, I think once we have a deeper
1023
01:08:25.569 --> 01:08:28.470
understanding of who we are, then we can better understand
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01:08:28.649 --> 01:08:31.819
obviously who other people are. And I did want to mention,
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01:08:31.859 --> 01:08:35.899
you were talking before about like the different ways that
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01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:38.739
people think. And the one thing that has really shifted
1027
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:44.909
my relationship with people is, is the rising awareness of
1028
01:08:44.930 --> 01:08:54.210
neurodivergence because we all react and respond and, and communicate
1029
01:08:55.369 --> 01:09:00.800
in very different ways. And so we're, I might have
1030
01:09:00.819 --> 01:09:05.220
been out in the past and encountered somebody at a
1031
01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:09.840
checkout and thought like, oh, they're like so rude. You know,
1032
01:09:10.380 --> 01:09:13.199
I don't go there anymore. I just go like, well.
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01:09:13.430 --> 01:09:13.779
I don't know.
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01:09:13.810 --> 01:09:19.229
Like maybe they're just super direct. I don't know. And
1035
01:09:19.270 --> 01:09:22.750
it just changes the way that I move through the
1036
01:09:22.789 --> 01:09:26.510
world because I don't know. I don't know. I don't
1037
01:09:26.569 --> 01:09:29.100
know what your communication style is. I don't know what
1038
01:09:29.109 --> 01:09:34.880
your thought process is. I don't know. You know, I
1039
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:38.600
don't know anything about who you are and what you
1040
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.720
bring to a conversation. So if I just take it
1041
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:47.439
for what it is and have that communication, it just
1042
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:48.010
works better.
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01:09:48.770 --> 01:09:54.989
I agree you can always um you can always and
1044
01:09:55.020 --> 01:09:57.439
you can always ask clarifying questions you know we have
1045
01:09:57.460 --> 01:10:00.880
to get more curious with each other uh we've lost
1046
01:10:00.899 --> 01:10:05.319
the art of conversation you know because it is an
1047
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:08.920
art and it's a it's like a dance it's a
1048
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.199
give and take it's a ebb and flow and it's
1049
01:10:13.069 --> 01:10:15.390
obviously it's something I study a lot being in the
1050
01:10:15.409 --> 01:10:19.319
podcast world and whatnot. And just, uh, historically I've had
1051
01:10:19.899 --> 01:10:24.539
not easy times communicating with people in real life, um,
1052
01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:27.300
which was one of the reasons, one of the things
1053
01:10:27.340 --> 01:10:31.659
that led into the podcast and whatnot, but I've had
1054
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:36.060
to learn how to be okay with not over explaining
1055
01:10:36.100 --> 01:10:40.350
myself too. And just being okay with, well, maybe they
1056
01:10:40.430 --> 01:10:43.810
understood and the message got through or maybe it didn't
1057
01:10:43.909 --> 01:10:47.689
and they completely took it differently from what I meant it.
1058
01:10:47.850 --> 01:10:52.270
But either way, oh, well, you know, just having grace
1059
01:10:52.449 --> 01:10:57.859
for yourself and others and finding humility, you know, you
1060
01:10:57.899 --> 01:11:00.340
got to figure out how to just, it humbles you
1061
01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:02.140
on a daily basis.
1062
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:06.279
Yeah. And I think, you know, just knowing, knowing what
1063
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.750
your intentions are, is and was, you know, in any
1064
01:11:09.789 --> 01:11:14.229
given situation. Um, and.
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01:11:17.090 --> 01:11:17.350
Yeah.
1066
01:11:17.729 --> 01:11:19.729
And I mean, I do think like the biggest, the,
1067
01:11:20.109 --> 01:11:26.550
one of the biggest things is people not listening to
1068
01:11:26.590 --> 01:11:31.800
have a conversation, but listening to have a response, right?
1069
01:11:31.810 --> 01:11:37.600
Like those are two very different things. Um, and I
1070
01:11:37.619 --> 01:11:42.010
think we meet people differently when, when we're not in that,
1071
01:11:42.670 --> 01:11:47.770
what's my response going to be right. Rather than what
1072
01:11:47.789 --> 01:11:52.350
am I contributing to this conversation? Yeah.
1073
01:11:52.390 --> 01:11:57.260
Most people are not comfortable with, uh, pause and silent stillness.
1074
01:11:57.939 --> 01:12:01.260
And that's, that's another thing with our culture and society. So,
1075
01:12:01.739 --> 01:12:04.960
and I say it a million times in every episode, um,
1076
01:12:07.310 --> 01:12:11.000
But we feel like we have to constantly fill that space.
1077
01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:15.840
And we did a lot of episodes in a row
1078
01:12:16.020 --> 01:12:21.760
about death and mourning. Sometimes I don't spend a whole
1079
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:23.539
lot of time reaching out to people because I just
1080
01:12:23.579 --> 01:12:26.579
don't have time. I'm a busy mom with a lot
1081
01:12:26.619 --> 01:12:29.760
going on. And so people reach out to me for
1082
01:12:29.779 --> 01:12:33.500
the most part. And every now and then the SEO...
1083
01:12:35.020 --> 01:12:38.260
Google gods, whatever's going on on the back end of
1084
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:42.220
the data and whatnot, the show will get flagged for
1085
01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:46.069
specific topics. So all of a sudden out of nowhere,
1086
01:12:46.109 --> 01:12:49.329
I have 15 people in my inbox wanting to come
1087
01:12:49.390 --> 01:12:52.029
on the show and talk about death, you know, or
1088
01:12:52.770 --> 01:12:55.750
some other topic. But so death was one of those
1089
01:12:55.930 --> 01:13:00.619
for a while. And something that really came out of
1090
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:05.560
those episodes was they're, know we don't know how to
1091
01:13:05.619 --> 01:13:08.880
help people who are having a hard time and we
1092
01:13:09.380 --> 01:13:14.239
so we attend we tend to avoid it and divert
1093
01:13:14.810 --> 01:13:18.609
and whatnot and the truth of the matter is is
1094
01:13:18.630 --> 01:13:21.390
that there's nothing we could do there's nothing we could
1095
01:13:21.470 --> 01:13:25.010
say to make it better but there's a million things
1096
01:13:25.029 --> 01:13:29.289
we could say to make it worse so the best
1097
01:13:29.350 --> 01:13:33.930
thing that we can do for other people is just
1098
01:13:33.949 --> 01:13:37.930
be the silent witness. Just learn how to be okay
1099
01:13:37.989 --> 01:13:42.340
with pausing and taking a breath and holding space.
1100
01:13:42.460 --> 01:13:44.939
Holding space, yeah. Just existing.
1101
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:49.760
And we can take that and apply it to everything,
1102
01:13:49.979 --> 01:13:53.670
every single day. It always throws me for a loop because,
1103
01:13:53.689 --> 01:13:55.130
you know, most of the time all of us are
1104
01:13:55.270 --> 01:14:01.789
on– most people are on autopilot– I'm not really on autopilot,
1105
01:14:01.909 --> 01:14:06.409
but I do understand that most people aren't interested in
1106
01:14:06.449 --> 01:14:10.649
getting into like super in-depth conversations right off the bat.
1107
01:14:11.810 --> 01:14:15.539
I used to exhaust people and I've become very self-aware
1108
01:14:15.619 --> 01:14:19.859
of how I exhausted people. And so if I'm just
1109
01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:25.640
in my everyday mask, I guess, just going about and
1110
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:28.720
interacting with it always throws me for a loop when
1111
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.479
I have somebody that asks me how I'm doing. I'm like, Oh,
1112
01:14:31.500 --> 01:14:33.520
we're doing good. How are you? You know? And they
1113
01:14:33.539 --> 01:14:36.930
just pause and stare at me. Like look me in
1114
01:14:36.970 --> 01:14:41.329
the eye and they're like, just waiting, just creating space.
1115
01:14:41.390 --> 01:14:45.210
It's like, Oh. And then like, for one, it kind
1116
01:14:45.229 --> 01:14:47.909
of feels like I hit a brick wall, but cause
1117
01:14:47.930 --> 01:14:49.949
you know, you're, you're in this momentum of just going
1118
01:14:50.010 --> 01:14:51.989
and doing and getting the things done and going through
1119
01:14:52.029 --> 01:14:54.729
your day and hitting the tasks. And then you hit
1120
01:14:54.770 --> 01:14:57.800
this brick wall of someone who actually, is giving you
1121
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:02.619
space to connect with them and share with them. And
1122
01:15:03.140 --> 01:15:06.000
if we could all just slow down a little bit.
1123
01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:09.460
Because we have a thousand different things that we are
1124
01:15:09.539 --> 01:15:17.869
prioritizing and putting or labeling as a priority that probably
1125
01:15:17.989 --> 01:15:21.069
don't even actually matter. And we're too busy to And
1126
01:15:21.090 --> 01:15:22.989
we don't have time to sit and chat. We don't
1127
01:15:23.029 --> 01:15:26.159
have time to make space and talk. But on a
1128
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.760
day-to-day basis, the most important thing that any of us
1129
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:34.779
can do for both ourselves and our community, our world,
1130
01:15:34.819 --> 01:15:38.619
our culture, our society, is to make space to connect
1131
01:15:39.300 --> 01:15:44.819
with people who just need a friendly smile. Like a genuine, real,
1132
01:15:45.539 --> 01:15:50.060
like we're starved for that authenticity. Yes. Connection. Yeah.
1133
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.800
As you were talking, the word that kept coming and
1134
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:57.699
cycling through my head was connection, connection, connection. So I
1135
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:03.770
just think people need connection. And it's interesting because we
1136
01:16:06.050 --> 01:16:12.029
can say that technology and dynamics have disconnected us, but
1137
01:16:12.090 --> 01:16:15.670
they also are the things that can connect us, right?
1138
01:16:15.770 --> 01:16:19.189
Like in ways that we never could be connected, which
1139
01:16:20.229 --> 01:16:22.210
I love. And I think that goes back to like
1140
01:16:22.310 --> 01:16:26.590
the dichotomy, right? There's the, there's the, this is really bad.
1141
01:16:26.670 --> 01:16:28.640
And this is how it, you know, if we use
1142
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:32.500
it this way, it doesn't, you know, it, it, it's
1143
01:16:32.579 --> 01:16:34.779
bad for us. And then there's this side of it
1144
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:36.359
where it's like, well, if we use it this way,
1145
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:39.979
it actually is a really powerful tool, right? It can
1146
01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:43.520
really make it, it could deepen our our relationships and
1147
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.069
our understandings of each other, you know, the ability to
1148
01:16:47.149 --> 01:16:49.329
know what's going on all the way around the world
1149
01:16:51.130 --> 01:16:58.449
is instantly right. Is amazing. So, yeah, but I think
1150
01:16:58.500 --> 01:17:02.859
connection seems to be the word.
1151
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:08.760
Everything, everything has a yin and yang to it. Everything
1152
01:17:08.819 --> 01:17:12.470
has the good and the bad, you know, there's, Nothing
1153
01:17:12.489 --> 01:17:17.250
is universally good and nothing is universally bad. I have
1154
01:17:17.270 --> 01:17:22.529
a friend who... I have a couple of friends. They're siblings.
1155
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:28.939
Their grandmother died because she drank too much water. Oh, wow. Yeah.
1156
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:33.720
Isn't that crazy? She had something with her throat that
1157
01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:37.520
bothered her. And drinking water was the only thing that
1158
01:17:37.699 --> 01:17:41.899
calmed it. So she was just constantly... sipping water and,
1159
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:48.020
you know, too much of anything is bad. So it's
1160
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:51.579
just finding the balance in it all. Yes.
1161
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:55.470
I think that is the, that is the journey is
1162
01:17:55.550 --> 01:17:57.470
to find the balance.
1163
01:17:58.739 --> 01:18:01.029
And the point is always moving. The point of balance
1164
01:18:01.109 --> 01:18:04.470
is always moving. So, you know, that's why I tell my,
1165
01:18:04.609 --> 01:18:06.770
my yoga students, some days we wake up and we
1166
01:18:06.789 --> 01:18:11.810
need that extra, um, yang energy, you know, sometimes we
1167
01:18:11.850 --> 01:18:14.119
need to do the hard workout and we need to
1168
01:18:14.220 --> 01:18:18.979
burn the, the energy. And then some days we need
1169
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:21.020
to rest. And some days we need to like do
1170
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:25.779
the lower impact stretches instead of the hard yang exercise.
1171
01:18:25.899 --> 01:18:26.979
And yeah.
1172
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:29.369
And I think in, you know, in Western culture, like
1173
01:18:29.710 --> 01:18:33.989
we're programmed to just push, push through it, push through it.
1174
01:18:34.010 --> 01:18:35.890
It's like, you know, I remember being in a yoga
1175
01:18:35.930 --> 01:18:40.109
class and I have my certification in And I used
1176
01:18:40.149 --> 01:18:42.550
to teach. I had my own studio. I taught a lot.
1177
01:18:42.550 --> 01:18:46.680
And then I had something physically happen. And I couldn't
1178
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:49.399
I couldn't do it anymore. And I was trying to
1179
01:18:49.460 --> 01:18:51.399
get back into it. And I was in this yoga
1180
01:18:51.460 --> 01:18:56.539
class and this, this guy was teaching and I was like,
1181
01:18:56.579 --> 01:18:59.359
you know, I just wasn't like, my body just was
1182
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:01.680
not there. Like I was like, I can't, I, whatever
1183
01:19:01.739 --> 01:19:04.109
he was asking us to do, I was like modifying
1184
01:19:04.189 --> 01:19:07.130
it and doing it the way that it felt right
1185
01:19:07.170 --> 01:19:09.430
for my body. And he walked up to me and
1186
01:19:09.470 --> 01:19:10.890
he goes, if you're not going to do it, just
1187
01:19:10.930 --> 01:19:13.529
get out of the class. And I was like, dude,
1188
01:19:13.829 --> 01:19:18.689
like you're so not yoga. Like, what are you talking about?
1189
01:19:19.970 --> 01:19:23.789
Totally floored me. I was like, okay, I won't come
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01:19:23.829 --> 01:19:24.890
back to this class.
1191
01:19:26.270 --> 01:19:31.720
I am so incredibly exasperated with yoga teachers, you know,
1192
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:35.100
like I'm a yoga teacher and, uh, But I came
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01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:39.039
in through, I came in it backwards. I came in
1194
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:44.390
it from the Eastern philosophy first. And honestly, like I was,
1195
01:19:45.369 --> 01:19:48.890
my body's lazy. That's okay. Everybody's body is lazy. I
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01:19:48.970 --> 01:19:53.180
always contributed to, I explained it to people as, you know,
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01:19:53.220 --> 01:19:57.739
historically speaking, we had to work very hard every single
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01:19:57.779 --> 01:20:00.750
day for our food, water, shelter, right? That's what our
1199
01:20:00.829 --> 01:20:04.390
ancestors grew up in. They worked from dusk till dawn,
1200
01:20:04.470 --> 01:20:07.770
dripping sweat, food, water, shelter, just your basic needs to
1201
01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:13.060
be met. So our body evolved to if you have
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01:20:13.100 --> 01:20:17.319
a moment that you can rest, rest. So it's really
1203
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:20.659
hard to go against that now since most of our
1204
01:20:20.819 --> 01:20:27.140
lifestyles are sedentary and slow paced in the movement area.
1205
01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:30.239
We don't have to work really hard every day for food, water, shelter.
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01:20:31.779 --> 01:20:35.229
resting is more of an option. So when we need
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01:20:35.310 --> 01:20:39.569
to exercise, you know, our body, it's against everything that
1208
01:20:40.029 --> 01:20:43.529
we're built for. Because what do you, why are you
1209
01:20:43.569 --> 01:20:50.069
burning unnecessary calories? Like, just because. I don't understand. There
1210
01:20:50.109 --> 01:20:53.260
may be a famine this winter. You need to store
1211
01:20:53.500 --> 01:20:56.380
all of that energy. You need to put some, like,
1212
01:20:56.420 --> 01:20:58.720
keep the meat on the bones. What are you doing?
1213
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.350
My body lifts that up. Like we're, we're, we've been
1214
01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:04.270
planning for a famine for like years.
1215
01:21:06.430 --> 01:21:09.789
Us too. We know what famine is like.
1216
01:21:10.170 --> 01:21:17.949
Oh my gosh. Yeah. I, I, um, I, have you
1217
01:21:17.989 --> 01:21:21.250
ever noticed that, uh, it's like one of those things
1218
01:21:21.270 --> 01:21:23.399
that I, that I just have that awareness of.
1219
01:21:23.430 --> 01:21:23.760
Yeah.
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01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:28.439
Like I yawn, you yawn, right? Like it's like this
1221
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:31.130
sort of zeitgeist. Have you ever noticed that if your
1222
01:21:31.149 --> 01:21:33.489
stomach grumbles, somebody else's stomach will grumble?
1223
01:21:33.510 --> 01:21:34.310
I have not.
1224
01:21:34.369 --> 01:21:36.390
I don't know if you've ever noticed that. And I
1225
01:21:36.489 --> 01:21:41.770
really believe that it is like a primitive, no language,
1226
01:21:43.069 --> 01:21:48.789
physical body dynamic that when we would be nomadic and moving,
1227
01:21:48.810 --> 01:21:52.050
I yawn, you yawn, we all know like, okay, it's
1228
01:21:52.090 --> 01:21:54.310
time to take a break, right? It's time to like,
1229
01:21:54.340 --> 01:21:57.640
we're getting tired. Let's take a break. my stomach rumbles,
1230
01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.260
your stomach rumbles. Oh, it's time to stop and eat.
1231
01:22:00.420 --> 01:22:00.619
Right.
1232
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.840
Like I am convinced that that is what it's about.
1233
01:22:03.899 --> 01:22:07.840
I have no proof, but I'm totally convinced that that's
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01:22:07.859 --> 01:22:08.659
what it's all about.
1235
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:12.060
That makes sense to me. We're, we're much more connected
1236
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:14.220
than we feel like we are. Well, you know, we're,
1237
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:21.069
we're so individualized because it's an illusion. It is. None
1238
01:22:21.130 --> 01:22:21.729
of us.
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01:22:21.810 --> 01:22:24.050
I mean, don't you think it's an, it's an illusion to,
1240
01:22:27.770 --> 01:22:32.489
like for a group to have control, like it's, you know,
1241
01:22:32.510 --> 01:22:34.810
to say that we are separate, we are, we are
1242
01:22:35.029 --> 01:22:40.609
all like individuate individual and we're not connected. I feel
1243
01:22:40.630 --> 01:22:44.369
like it's a way for there to be like this
1244
01:22:44.470 --> 01:22:49.630
overarching control of humanity, right. To be like, no, you're like,
1245
01:22:50.510 --> 01:22:53.439
you don't know. Cause when we're, when we're connected, when
1246
01:22:53.479 --> 01:23:02.430
we actually recognize how much we can build together, we're powerful, right?
1247
01:23:02.470 --> 01:23:06.300
We as a whole are super powerful. So I really
1248
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:10.380
think that it's this like, you know, layer of, of
1249
01:23:10.579 --> 01:23:14.840
whether it's energetic or actual control or both that, right.
1250
01:23:14.960 --> 01:23:18.960
Or both, right. That's saying, um, no, you, you're not,
1251
01:23:19.100 --> 01:23:21.619
there's no connection here. You're like, and then, and then
1252
01:23:21.649 --> 01:23:25.630
what's been happening more and more is like hammering the division, right.
1253
01:23:25.729 --> 01:23:30.010
Hammering it in that we are, we, we are not connected.
1254
01:23:30.630 --> 01:23:33.430
And then I see like all of us down here going,
1255
01:23:33.529 --> 01:23:37.029
but we are, We know we are. So we're not
1256
01:23:37.140 --> 01:23:39.960
buying into it. I don't think we're wholly buying into
1257
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:42.500
this energy that's being thrown at us because I see
1258
01:23:42.579 --> 01:23:47.720
so much conversation and awareness of like, no, actually, I
1259
01:23:47.739 --> 01:23:50.439
think we're more connected than what this is telling us.
1260
01:23:50.470 --> 01:23:51.390
We're connected.
1261
01:23:52.369 --> 01:23:55.069
Well, unfortunately, a lot of people do buy into it.
1262
01:23:55.789 --> 01:23:56.829
But yes.
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01:23:56.949 --> 01:24:01.149
I don't think it's that many, though. I think that
1264
01:24:01.289 --> 01:24:04.890
everything shows us that it's that many. But I don't
1265
01:24:04.949 --> 01:24:07.270
actually think it's that many. I think it's a smaller
1266
01:24:07.449 --> 01:24:11.250
amount than what they want us to believe it is.
1267
01:24:11.789 --> 01:24:14.609
Well, there's for sure a lot of bot farms. Those
1268
01:24:14.630 --> 01:24:19.050
are real. And for people who are unfamiliar, bot farms
1269
01:24:19.350 --> 01:24:23.989
are essentially just warehouses of people, or now it's a
1270
01:24:24.029 --> 01:24:29.449
lot of AI bots. with fake social media accounts that
1271
01:24:29.550 --> 01:24:33.369
their primary job is to push this agenda or that
1272
01:24:33.430 --> 01:24:38.760
agenda and create fights on the internet so we seem
1273
01:24:38.819 --> 01:24:48.180
a whole lot more uh devised yes we actually are
1274
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:51.029
but if you get off of the internet and you
1275
01:24:51.069 --> 01:24:53.449
just exist in real life which is a hard balance
1276
01:24:53.470 --> 01:24:57.529
that we're learning right now where you kind of have
1277
01:24:57.569 --> 01:25:03.659
to be connected to function in modern society. If you
1278
01:25:03.699 --> 01:25:07.600
don't have a smartphone or a bank account or a
1279
01:25:08.380 --> 01:25:11.520
credit card or, you know, whatever else it is that
1280
01:25:11.539 --> 01:25:14.739
you need to function in society, you can't do a
1281
01:25:14.779 --> 01:25:18.510
whole lot of things. You know, there's just for me
1282
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:23.689
to help my children be in school. I have like,
1283
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:28.359
three or four different apps on my phone that I
1284
01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:34.550
use to navigate communication with their teacher, communication with their
1285
01:25:34.890 --> 01:25:38.149
sports coach, which is a separate app. And then you
1286
01:25:38.170 --> 01:25:43.250
have your email where you're navigating their work assignments and
1287
01:25:43.289 --> 01:25:46.449
then the platform. Like you have to be connected to
1288
01:25:46.489 --> 01:25:53.399
a certain extent. But man, it isn't more. And a
1289
01:25:53.470 --> 01:25:56.270
lot of people are just ditching as much as they can,
1290
01:25:57.069 --> 01:25:59.550
like as we go forward. And a lot of people
1291
01:25:59.569 --> 01:26:02.390
were moving away from social media. It's so funny that
1292
01:26:02.430 --> 01:26:06.090
I do so much online like this right here, but
1293
01:26:06.390 --> 01:26:09.989
the vast majority of people that I actually interact with
1294
01:26:10.050 --> 01:26:13.069
on a day-to-day basis don't even have any social media.
1295
01:26:13.090 --> 01:26:15.270
And that's a breath of fresh air.
1296
01:26:15.289 --> 01:26:16.890
Yeah. Yeah.
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01:26:17.189 --> 01:26:17.550
Yeah.
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01:26:17.869 --> 01:26:23.260
I'm not a fan of social media. Like I, I like,
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01:26:23.439 --> 01:26:27.199
I always loved every social media platform, like the major
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01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:31.979
ones when they first started. And then as they evolved
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01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:34.920
or devolved as like, like this is, and you know,
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01:26:34.939 --> 01:26:40.180
like years ago, um, if I stepped into Facebook, my
1303
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:45.890
whole crown would just get totally buzzy. And I, and again,
1304
01:26:45.949 --> 01:26:47.689
I'd be like, okay, what is this? Like, you know,
1305
01:26:48.050 --> 01:26:50.069
for me, it was like, okay, something's going on here.
1306
01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:51.939
And I looked at it and I was like, it's
1307
01:26:52.020 --> 01:26:56.060
creating like its own collective consciousness, like a false layer
1308
01:26:56.100 --> 01:27:00.159
of collective consciousness. And so I started like saying to people, like,
1309
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:02.720
you need to get off of, like, this is not
1310
01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:05.520
a place to be, like, don't be here. And of course,
1311
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:10.560
nobody would listen to me. And I started seeing the
1312
01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:17.920
beginning of the disinformation where somebody would post like this
1313
01:27:18.020 --> 01:27:21.090
quote and it would be attributed to Buddha. And I'd
1314
01:27:21.109 --> 01:27:23.609
be like, in the comments, I'd go, well, Buddha didn't
1315
01:27:23.689 --> 01:27:26.270
say this. Like, I don't know who said it. And
1316
01:27:26.289 --> 01:27:30.460
their response was, I don't care. I like it. And
1317
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:34.600
I was like, no, you need to care. Because it's
1318
01:27:34.659 --> 01:27:39.939
bending our ability to know what is true. And that's
1319
01:27:40.010 --> 01:27:44.810
going to have long-term repercussions. And so that goalpost kept
1320
01:27:44.890 --> 01:27:48.270
moving of what we would accept, of what was true,
1321
01:27:48.529 --> 01:27:50.890
of what And I was just like, oh my God,
1322
01:27:50.930 --> 01:27:54.630
like this has to stop, right? You know, but every
1323
01:27:54.770 --> 01:27:58.829
social media, like I loved, I loved Twitter when it started.
1324
01:27:58.869 --> 01:28:00.789
It was so much fun. And it was like ability
1325
01:28:00.810 --> 01:28:03.989
to connect with people and have conversations. And then it
1326
01:28:04.069 --> 01:28:08.279
devolved and then threads came and I was like, yay.
1327
01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.680
And then it became Twitter. And I was like, oh,
1328
01:28:14.270 --> 01:28:18.270
We just can't have it. And I think primarily because
1329
01:28:18.310 --> 01:28:24.600
there's those bots. The whole thing is about creating. They
1330
01:28:24.659 --> 01:28:30.689
proved that if they present a negative something, that it
1331
01:28:30.729 --> 01:28:36.609
will engage people to feed. I was like, what are
1332
01:28:36.630 --> 01:28:38.949
we doing? Why are we doing this? Can we stop
1333
01:28:38.989 --> 01:28:41.180
doing this? i just want to stop.
1334
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:45.560
Doing it yep because you're a commodity you know because
1335
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:49.140
the longer you scroll on the platform the more ads
1336
01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:51.199
that they can show you and the more money that
1337
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:51.939
they make.
1338
01:28:52.199 --> 01:28:55.449
Yeah i just watched the audacity on netflix it's like
1339
01:28:55.510 --> 01:29:00.880
i think it's eight episodes um And it just came
1340
01:29:01.020 --> 01:29:05.939
out and it's, it's so gross to just see like
1341
01:29:08.010 --> 01:29:12.130
these companies are not selling anything. What they're actually doing
1342
01:29:12.609 --> 01:29:15.210
is gobbling up our data and then selling our data.
1343
01:29:16.390 --> 01:29:19.090
It doesn't matter what it is. It's really the money
1344
01:29:19.229 --> 01:29:23.399
is in the data. That is, that's where they're making
1345
01:29:23.420 --> 01:29:27.220
their money. And I was like, Oh God, that's so gross. So,
1346
01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:27.779
so gross.
1347
01:29:28.390 --> 01:29:28.609
Yeah.
1348
01:29:28.750 --> 01:29:31.970
It's a, I, I, I liked it. It was a, um,
1349
01:29:33.029 --> 01:29:33.729
it was a good show.
1350
01:29:35.619 --> 01:29:39.140
Yeah. That's exactly what's going on though. And so, you know,
1351
01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.060
money is the root of all evil. It's not money's
1352
01:29:42.100 --> 01:29:44.500
a tool, but yeah, I like money.
1353
01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:46.779
I like money. It can let, it can help us
1354
01:29:46.829 --> 01:29:50.819
do so many things. And I think, you know, if
1355
01:29:50.859 --> 01:29:52.779
we sit in that space of feeling like it's the
1356
01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:55.680
root of all evil, it just limits who like it
1357
01:29:55.819 --> 01:30:01.939
limits us. I think we need to recognize that, you know, some,
1358
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:09.289
some people, um, misuse, basically they misuse their power. So
1359
01:30:09.329 --> 01:30:11.789
however it shows up, whether it's through money or, um,
1360
01:30:13.850 --> 01:30:18.989
the position that they hold or whatever, uh, Yeah. And again,
1361
01:30:19.069 --> 01:30:20.909
we've got that dichotomy again, right?
1362
01:30:21.890 --> 01:30:28.460
How many people keep themselves unconsciously, subconsciously poor because they
1363
01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:30.399
believe money is the root of all evil?
1364
01:30:30.420 --> 01:30:31.779
Many, many.
1365
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:35.760
So many that don't even realize it. Most of them
1366
01:30:36.020 --> 01:30:38.390
have no idea that they're doing it because they think
1367
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.710
that they want money. Of course, I want money. Of course,
1368
01:30:40.770 --> 01:30:44.029
I want stability and my bills paid and space and
1369
01:30:44.449 --> 01:30:46.649
space to breathe and do the things and buy a
1370
01:30:46.670 --> 01:30:49.720
boat and take the family out on the pontoon and
1371
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:53.119
go tubing and, you know, but they're holding themselves back
1372
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:56.239
because they've grown up with the money is the root
1373
01:30:56.260 --> 01:30:58.090
of all evil. And we don't want to be evil.
1374
01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:00.170
I don't want to be a bad person. Yeah.
1375
01:31:00.250 --> 01:31:02.029
Or money doesn't grow on trees and you have to
1376
01:31:02.069 --> 01:31:04.229
work really hard. And so if they don't believe that
1377
01:31:04.250 --> 01:31:06.529
they're working hard enough, I mean, there's so much conditioning.
1378
01:31:07.310 --> 01:31:09.489
you know, around money, which again, I think goes back
1379
01:31:09.590 --> 01:31:13.689
to control, right. Controlling us in, in ways that we
1380
01:31:13.729 --> 01:31:20.739
don't even recognize that we're, you know, energetically, emotionally, psychologically
1381
01:31:20.939 --> 01:31:24.680
being controlled to be less, to be less than who
1382
01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:28.159
we truly can be, which takes me back to that's
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01:31:28.180 --> 01:31:30.920
the whole journey. Can you break through that? Can you
1384
01:31:30.979 --> 01:31:32.930
see it? Can you, can you move beyond it?
1385
01:31:33.810 --> 01:31:37.829
And it's a scarcity thing. thing like the dynamics because
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01:31:38.010 --> 01:31:43.439
uh you know we know that energy is expansive so
1387
01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:49.960
there's there's not a scarcity of energy um but that's
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01:31:50.140 --> 01:31:52.520
that's one of the problem with the dynamics is that
1389
01:31:52.859 --> 01:31:57.000
we don't it's a them versus us thing in the
1390
01:31:57.020 --> 01:31:59.479
sense of if let's see how am i trying to
1391
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:04.270
explain this savannah find the words um The CEO and
1392
01:32:04.289 --> 01:32:07.430
the people at the top of the company are afraid that,
1393
01:32:08.949 --> 01:32:12.100
you know, they make, say, we're just going to throw
1394
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:16.420
a random number out there, $ 10 million a year. Whereas
1395
01:32:16.659 --> 01:32:22.560
the bottom employees are bringing home, what, $ 40, 000? Mm-hmm. And
1396
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:29.789
so there's scarcity of resources in that whole dynamic system
1397
01:32:29.949 --> 01:32:35.029
where the $ 10 million... CEO or whoever is afraid that
1398
01:32:35.069 --> 01:32:40.479
if they give the bottom employees, like, will it cut
1399
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:44.579
down from 10 million to 5 million? Like you could
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01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:50.319
do that, but also what does that mean for sacrifice
1401
01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:53.439
for you? Probably not a whole lot. Honestly, we, um,
1402
01:32:54.220 --> 01:32:57.720
we're stuck in this whole, you know, again, our ancestors
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01:32:58.180 --> 01:33:01.260
worked from dawn to dusk for food, water, shelter, woke
1404
01:33:01.300 --> 01:33:03.890
up every single day, Didn't know where food was coming
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01:33:03.930 --> 01:33:06.029
from that day. Had to go figure it out. Had
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01:33:06.050 --> 01:33:12.130
to go find it. Like real strife and struggle. And
1407
01:33:13.090 --> 01:33:16.010
now we're in this position where most of us have
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01:33:16.050 --> 01:33:19.020
our food, water, shelter met. Not everybody by any means,
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01:33:19.140 --> 01:33:22.920
but most of us. And we still wake up every
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01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:28.779
morning as if we're in this strife and struggle. And
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01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:32.420
I feel like we squander time. a lot of our
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01:33:33.020 --> 01:33:38.550
time and resources, you know, um, I had a friend
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01:33:39.149 --> 01:33:43.210
that her and her son fell on some hard times
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01:33:43.270 --> 01:33:47.090
and they moved in with us for about two years
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01:33:47.109 --> 01:33:54.010
and somebody that I know had a lot of problems
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01:33:54.069 --> 01:33:59.210
with this. And one of their reasonings were, um, Do
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01:33:59.229 --> 01:34:02.310
you understand how much more wear and tear on your
1418
01:34:02.329 --> 01:34:08.939
washer and dryer that's going to be? I'm like, they
1419
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:13.420
are living in their car. Okay. A single mother with her.
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01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:17.920
Let's see how old he was like nine at the time.
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01:34:17.979 --> 01:34:20.939
Her nine year old son were living in her car.
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01:34:22.029 --> 01:34:26.060
We had extra space. And people actively tried to get
1423
01:34:26.100 --> 01:34:28.569
me not to do that because of the wear and
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01:34:28.609 --> 01:34:30.779
tear on my washer and dryer. Are you kidding me
1425
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:31.640
right now? Yeah.
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01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:33.220
I don't know. Priorities, right?
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01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:33.800
Yeah.
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01:34:34.340 --> 01:34:38.880
Yeah. I mean, I just want to take a step
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01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.460
back because I think, you know, when we talk about
1430
01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:45.979
our ability, like the abilities that we have to create
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01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:51.460
and manifest for ourselves, I know that when people are
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01:34:51.619 --> 01:34:59.890
in a certain... place within this, um, this, this, this
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01:35:00.090 --> 01:35:03.539
learning structure that I can feel like it's blame, like
1434
01:35:03.699 --> 01:35:06.779
that some, like, you know, so I created this and
1435
01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:10.220
that's not what anybody is saying, right. There's no, that,
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01:35:10.479 --> 01:35:14.310
that is not, um, like when you find yourself in a,
1437
01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:21.069
in a situation, um, And somebody is saying like, you
1438
01:35:21.090 --> 01:35:24.800
have the ability to create what you want. Nobody is
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01:35:24.859 --> 01:35:33.020
saying you created this, but they are saying your mindset,
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01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:37.930
you know, where you put your focus, how you see things,
1441
01:35:38.010 --> 01:35:41.390
how you move through the world, all of that contributes
1442
01:35:41.529 --> 01:35:46.079
to what you can create for yourself. And if, if
1443
01:35:46.119 --> 01:35:50.399
you feel like you don't have any power, then you
1444
01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:55.159
don't have any power. If you feel like everything is,
1445
01:35:56.199 --> 01:36:01.279
is limited, then everything is limited. And those are the,
1446
01:36:01.420 --> 01:36:04.159
those are actually the things that are part of the
1447
01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:06.770
healing journey to get rid of is to, is to
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01:36:06.930 --> 01:36:10.390
shift the mindset, to shift the energy, to move it
1449
01:36:10.529 --> 01:36:16.600
out of that emotional encodement of, I grew up with hearing,
1450
01:36:16.619 --> 01:36:20.649
you know, money doesn't grow on trees or what do
1451
01:36:20.670 --> 01:36:23.689
you think I'm made of money or, you know, everything
1452
01:36:23.750 --> 01:36:29.069
being about money or everything being conditional, right? Like you
1453
01:36:29.109 --> 01:36:32.609
can't have this if you don't do this, all of
1454
01:36:32.689 --> 01:36:37.920
that feeds into what we're able to have in our life. And, um,
1455
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:44.119
when you're walking a path that is unaware, none of
1456
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:48.279
this makes sense, right? It just doesn't make sense. And
1457
01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:49.960
you look at it and you go, so what am
1458
01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:53.300
I the problem? Like, it's my fault. It's, and that's
1459
01:36:53.340 --> 01:36:55.859
not what's being said. If you can step over here
1460
01:36:56.270 --> 01:36:58.970
and look at it and be on, like, see it
1461
01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:01.449
and be like, oh, okay, there's more to this. And
1462
01:37:01.470 --> 01:37:03.670
I think that's a good way to put it. There's
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01:37:03.729 --> 01:37:07.890
more to what we experience than just what we experience.
1464
01:37:08.619 --> 01:37:12.000
There are all these layers underneath it. There are all
1465
01:37:12.020 --> 01:37:23.390
of these conditionings and wounding and cultural, social, religious programming
1466
01:37:23.510 --> 01:37:26.390
that impacts who we are and what we can have.
1467
01:37:26.510 --> 01:37:31.819
And if you want it to change, it's just taking
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01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:34.500
that step into that place of looking at it and
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01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:37.850
going like, okay, there's more here. I think that I
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01:37:37.909 --> 01:37:40.810
think if we boil it down into something really simple,
1471
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:44.439
that's what it is. Yeah.
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01:37:44.539 --> 01:37:49.920
Perspective is everything. And we get really stuck on playing
1473
01:37:49.939 --> 01:37:53.289
the blame game. We blame ourselves for X, Y, Z.
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01:37:53.300 --> 01:37:56.149
We blame the CEOs. They could just share the wealth.
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01:37:56.710 --> 01:37:59.329
We blame our parents. Why didn't they do better? We
1476
01:37:59.369 --> 01:38:04.569
blame everything, everybody, uh, But the truth is that it's
1477
01:38:04.649 --> 01:38:07.369
not a my problem or your problem. It's an everybody problem.
1478
01:38:07.569 --> 01:38:12.460
Everything's an everybody problem. And that means that no one
1479
01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:16.979
person can fix anything. And again, we're back to collectivism
1480
01:38:17.260 --> 01:38:24.149
and how we have to balance the self-awareness of where
1481
01:38:24.250 --> 01:38:29.970
we are truthfully in any given moment in time, what capacity,
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01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:37.319
that we have for ourselves and other people. And, you know, sometimes,
1483
01:38:39.699 --> 01:38:42.399
sometimes when we feel like we don't have the capacity
1484
01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:45.319
to reach out and ask somebody else how they're doing,
1485
01:38:46.899 --> 01:38:50.000
that is the most beneficial thing that we could do
1486
01:38:50.100 --> 01:38:54.000
for ourselves to create the capacity. If that makes sense.
1487
01:38:54.859 --> 01:38:59.819
Because again, it's that human connection and together we are capable.
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01:38:59.890 --> 01:39:03.489
Together we are powerful and we can do amazing things.
1489
01:39:04.069 --> 01:39:08.229
But if we're trying to change things by ourselves, that's
1490
01:39:08.250 --> 01:39:10.750
the long route. That's the slow route. That's the hard route.
1491
01:39:10.869 --> 01:39:14.609
It's the damn near impossible route. We can't hardly do
1492
01:39:14.810 --> 01:39:19.649
anything by ourselves. Because we're not meant to. We're communal creatures.
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01:39:20.130 --> 01:39:25.109
We're meant to do everything together. So if you're like yesterday,
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01:39:25.130 --> 01:39:27.829
I was having a really hard day yesterday and I
1495
01:39:27.869 --> 01:39:30.670
was just so stressed out about a thousand things that
1496
01:39:30.729 --> 01:39:32.329
I had on my to-do list and I just had
1497
01:39:32.430 --> 01:39:37.310
zero capacity to anything. And the most beneficial thing I
1498
01:39:37.350 --> 01:39:39.710
could do was I reached out to my friend and
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01:39:39.989 --> 01:39:40.930
asked her how she was.
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01:39:40.949 --> 01:39:41.829
Mm-hmm.
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01:39:42.390 --> 01:39:45.510
And she gave me like two or three paragraphs because
1502
01:39:45.529 --> 01:39:48.010
she always does. And she went, how are you? And
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01:39:48.029 --> 01:39:50.189
I just ignored the question because I didn't even have
1504
01:39:50.229 --> 01:39:52.409
the capacity to tell her how I was, which was
1505
01:39:52.609 --> 01:39:57.060
not good. And then after a few minutes, she texted
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01:39:57.100 --> 01:40:00.340
me again and she was like, do you have anything formal?
1507
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:02.399
Because we're about the same size and we can wear
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01:40:02.439 --> 01:40:03.720
each other's clothes. And she was like, do you have
1509
01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:06.220
anything formal? Because I have this thing that I got
1510
01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:08.119
to go to. And I was like, how formal are
1511
01:40:08.140 --> 01:40:11.449
we talking about? And she was like, her husband has
1512
01:40:11.470 --> 01:40:14.159
to wear a tux. I was like, all right. So
1513
01:40:14.340 --> 01:40:17.020
instead of just telling, even though I had zero time
1514
01:40:17.550 --> 01:40:20.170
in my life and I was stressed to the max,
1515
01:40:20.890 --> 01:40:24.069
I dug out all of my formal wear, which was
1516
01:40:24.130 --> 01:40:26.390
at the back of the bottom of my closet. So
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01:40:26.409 --> 01:40:27.850
I had to make a huge mess to get it out.
1518
01:40:28.409 --> 01:40:30.140
And then instead of just laying it out on the
1519
01:40:30.149 --> 01:40:33.460
bed and taking a picture, this, this, this, and this,
1520
01:40:34.260 --> 01:40:38.539
I put on every single article and fully modeled it
1521
01:40:39.220 --> 01:40:41.699
in the mirror with a little video. I did like
1522
01:40:42.090 --> 01:40:44.430
little selfie video like of the front. And then I
1523
01:40:44.449 --> 01:40:46.609
did a little selfie video of the back and told
1524
01:40:46.649 --> 01:40:50.170
her about the different articles. And it took me like 30,
1525
01:40:50.170 --> 01:40:52.729
45 minutes that I did not have time for, but
1526
01:40:52.750 --> 01:40:59.100
I felt so much better afterwards because, you know, productivity
1527
01:40:59.260 --> 01:41:01.859
is endless. You know, the house is never going to
1528
01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:07.460
be perfect. There's always dishes to do. There's always laundry
1529
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:10.199
to do. No matter how much money you make, the
1530
01:41:10.220 --> 01:41:13.180
toilet still needs to be cleaned. You know, it's just,
1531
01:41:14.460 --> 01:41:22.060
but making time for nonsensical whimsy, you know, and so
1532
01:41:22.100 --> 01:41:24.239
I took 30 minutes out of my day to get
1533
01:41:24.279 --> 01:41:26.369
dressed up and feel like a princess and twirl around
1534
01:41:26.430 --> 01:41:30.069
in my super fancy dresses that I haven't touched in
1535
01:41:30.090 --> 01:41:32.869
a year, you know, and that just made all the
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01:41:32.909 --> 01:41:35.149
difference in the world. I love that.
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01:41:35.390 --> 01:41:38.470
I love that. There's a guy, like, there's some really
1538
01:41:38.550 --> 01:41:43.819
positive things to Instagram, like, there's a guy that just like,
1539
01:41:45.979 --> 01:41:50.739
he finds these, these videos and he calls them whimsy.
1540
01:41:50.979 --> 01:41:55.680
So he's like, like, they're just, you know, people like dance,
1541
01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:58.859
like doing funny dances. And I don't know. It's just
1542
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:01.220
the word whimsy is such a good word.
1543
01:42:01.239 --> 01:42:01.319
Yeah.
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01:42:02.380 --> 01:42:07.739
It's what we need more of.
1545
01:42:07.899 --> 01:42:13.289
And, you know, we've, again, our culture and society, historically,
1546
01:42:13.970 --> 01:42:16.729
and we touched on this earlier today, we historically kind
1547
01:42:16.869 --> 01:42:21.060
of shooed kids away because, you know, oh, they don't
1548
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:24.140
have the life experience. What they're saying couldn't possibly be
1549
01:42:24.199 --> 01:42:28.279
any kind of importance and yada, yada, whatever. I could
1550
01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:30.979
talk about kids and parenting and all of that for
1551
01:42:31.010 --> 01:42:36.600
a whole nother two hours. But getting back to the whimsy,
1552
01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:43.010
the nonsensical, the doing things just because it's fun, that's
1553
01:42:43.770 --> 01:42:48.210
a huge shift that we don't find, we don't put
1554
01:42:48.630 --> 01:42:51.449
on a pedestal of importance anymore. It's like, oh, grow up.
1555
01:42:52.520 --> 01:42:55.300
Right, right, right. Everything's serious, yeah.
1556
01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:56.460
Everything's so serious.
1557
01:42:57.479 --> 01:43:03.899
So energetically, amusements... is one of the most shifting energies
1558
01:43:04.220 --> 01:43:07.479
that you can bring in, like just fill in with
1559
01:43:07.539 --> 01:43:13.739
amusement and it changes like space changes. So that's, you know,
1560
01:43:13.979 --> 01:43:19.659
another nice, we understand it here, but also on an
1561
01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:23.619
energetic level, it actually is right. It's like a higher vibration.
1562
01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:28.229
It creates change. It lightens things up. It loosens things up.
1563
01:43:29.159 --> 01:43:31.819
And it's, it allows things to move. I think that's
1564
01:43:31.859 --> 01:43:34.539
the biggest piece of it is that amusement allows things
1565
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:37.520
to move, which, you know, again, like going, going through
1566
01:43:37.619 --> 01:43:40.810
different parts of what we, what we hear and what
1567
01:43:40.829 --> 01:43:43.310
we understand, like laughter is the best medicine.
1568
01:43:44.069 --> 01:43:44.449
It is.
1569
01:43:44.649 --> 01:43:49.449
And that's one of the, like why energetically it moves things,
1570
01:43:49.649 --> 01:43:53.699
it lightens things, it shifts things. So kind of interesting.
1571
01:43:54.579 --> 01:44:00.380
Yeah. It's the tension and tightness of, of stress versus
1572
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:06.939
the loose, relaxed state that is where healing occurs. Yeah. Yeah.
1573
01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:07.899
Yeah.
1574
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:16.149
So I loved this. I could go on forever and
1575
01:44:16.210 --> 01:44:19.470
ever and ever more, but I have another meeting coming
1576
01:44:19.550 --> 01:44:21.409
up here in just a little bit. And I'd like
1577
01:44:21.430 --> 01:44:23.050
to get up and walk around and stretch a little
1578
01:44:23.069 --> 01:44:24.029
bit before.
1579
01:44:24.050 --> 01:44:27.369
That's good to me. I really loved the conversation.
1580
01:44:27.430 --> 01:44:29.890
Thank you. Thank you for coming on. It was a
1581
01:44:29.930 --> 01:44:32.550
lot of fun. Anytime you want to come back and
1582
01:44:32.569 --> 01:44:35.729
do another one, just let me know and we'll, I
1583
01:44:35.750 --> 01:44:37.609
won't make you fill out any more forms. You've done.
1584
01:44:40.109 --> 01:44:41.800
You made it to the next level of, Hey, you
1585
01:44:41.810 --> 01:44:42.479
want to do an episode?
1586
01:44:42.500 --> 01:44:46.189
Yeah, let's go. That's awesome. Great. Thank you. I appreciate it.
1587
01:44:46.199 --> 01:44:48.579
If there's anything, you know, that comes up for you
1588
01:44:48.619 --> 01:44:51.659
and you're like, Hey, maybe Christine could help me with this.
1589
01:44:51.699 --> 01:44:54.399
Just let me know. I'm always happy to jump into things.
1590
01:44:54.479 --> 01:44:58.039
So. Cool. Thank you. Um, Do you want to tell,
1591
01:44:58.060 --> 01:45:00.060
you want to plug anything, tell people where to find you?
1592
01:45:00.140 --> 01:45:04.020
I'll of course link your website below. So anybody, everybody
1593
01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:05.380
can get to you easily.
1594
01:45:05.399 --> 01:45:10.819
Yeah. Just, you know, christinagra.com. You know, if you're interested
1595
01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:16.899
in exploring more deeply your, what comes up in your life.
1596
01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:20.689
That's my, that's my area. That's my focus. Looking at
1597
01:45:20.729 --> 01:45:24.310
it from an energetic perspective and finding the root of
1598
01:45:24.369 --> 01:45:26.470
things and then helping you clear it. So it's not
1599
01:45:26.489 --> 01:45:32.100
just knowing it. It's actually moving it. That's the main stuff.
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01:45:33.979 --> 01:45:34.939
All right. So much fun.
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01:45:35.119 --> 01:45:35.340
Thank you.
1602
01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:35.569
Thank you.
1603
01:45:35.579 --> 01:45:36.729
Thank you. Thank you.