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Ladies and gentlemen, you know, I have a wonderful individual
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that's doing some great things.
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James Stroll, welcome to the Mitchell Point Leach podcast, my friend.
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You did it.
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Yeah.
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You just came off of the heels of doing an event.
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Speak to the event real quick, because I know you
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said that it took a lot out of you, but
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how's that feeling after the event and all that good stuff?
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The event was extraordinary. It's a very inspirational and also
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informational event. We bring together the top science in the
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world from all over the world on super longevity. Super longevity,
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just to give a short explanation, is a little bit
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different than just longevity. Super longevity is about reversing aging. And,
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of course, we have all the same modalities of wellness
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and maintaining health. But our focus is with scientists and
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doctors that are working on age reversal or slowing aging protocols.
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So it's very extraordinary. It's eye-opening for people because there
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are a lot of modalities and therapies right now that
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are on the table or in the lab that are
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waiting for human trials that can reverse aging. These great
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scientists like Ray Kurzweil, who you probably know, who is
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kind of the father of RADFEST and the Coalition for
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Radical Hypertension. And then there's Dr. Bill Andrews and and
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Aubrey de Grey, others that are on our team. And
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they're bringing, you know, great new therapies and innovations to
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the table that I think, I personally think within one
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to three years, we're going to see a age reversal
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innovation that will dramatically reverse human aging, which is exciting because,
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you know, we're in a world of survival, you know,
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and in that world of survival, We're always battling with
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ourselves and one another because death, per se, aging and
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death corrupt the human soul. They corrupt our growth. And
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so by making that breakthrough, it's going to give us
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a whole new world. And I call it, you know,
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in my book, which I think you probably heard about,
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The Gospel of Longevity that gets finished. I write about that,
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where we have an opportunity through this window to create change.
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what I call heaven here on earth. And heaven here
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on earth is where we can get out of survival
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into the era of creativity.
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Love that. I love that.
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So when you speak to this longevity, because I feel
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like there's going to be a lot of things folks
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are going to say.
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It's woo-woo. There is no such thing.
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How do we explain this as both you and I
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having this conversation?
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So It's palatable for folks to understand.
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Yes. I mean, that, that's pretty, uh, I understand that
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they don't understand because it's like anything, any other advancement.
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You know, people didn't embrace it until they saw it
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in their face, uh, or they learned more information about it.
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But what I, you know, whether it was flying, whether
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it was a break, you know, whether it was, uh,
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you know, breaking the four minute mile, people thought it
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was impossible. You know, scientists used to say then that
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a human body would explode. I just read a couple
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of days ago that there's a teenager that actually smashed
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that last record of breaking the form in a mile.
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He did it like 3.85 or something like that, you know,
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which just shows you what's possible when humans give themselves
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to it. And I would encourage people who say don't
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think it's woo-woo or not possible to to do some research.
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I mean, top companies in the world now, Google, Elon
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Musk now are embracing unlimited lifespans because, first of all,
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they feel that it's a way out of the survival
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that we're in that keeps us sabotaging our human existence.
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But it's inevitable because we're at the point in our
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humanity that we need to come up with something new
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that takes us out of this struggle all the time.
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And it can create a whole new world. I mean,
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when you're going to, for example, Elon Musk wants to
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go into space, you know, way to Mars. I mean,
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you know, we're going to need extended lifespans, not only
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to do things you want to do in space, for example,
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but to do things to discover who we really are
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as human beings. So already, though, there's a lot for
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folks who say are skeptical of this. They need to get,
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you know, learn, get educated. Nowadays, unlike, say, you know, 50,
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100 years ago where, you know, the automobile came, other
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things where there wasn't as much, you know, opportunity to
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study what's happening. You know, now we have internet, you know,
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now we have, you know, access to information, you know,
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go online, research it, go, you know, study the science.
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There's already a lot of science proven that's evident that
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we can conquer aging and death. It's just a matter
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of time. So some experts right now, like Greg, you know,
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our Edison of the day, Ray Kurzweil, one of the most,
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you know, smartest men on the planet, are saying that
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in 2032, we're going to reach what he calls singularity,
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which is the era of immortality, where, you know, it's
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going to be a whole new world. And what? That's just,
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in my calculation, that's four or six years away. So
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it's interesting, though, that, you know, A lot of people
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aren't privy to this because they're living their lives just
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on a daily by day experiences. And most people do
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not delve into researching things until it's in their face.
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But I would encourage people to do that because this
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is a real matter of their own existence for them,
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for their children, for their grandchildren. You know, this is
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a whole new world coming about and it's going to
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happen whether you believe it or not.
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So true.
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You know, and there's a lot of power with what
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you're talking about because I feel like there's the work
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aspect that we do. Then there's the content and building
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our businesses that we do as well. And I feel
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like a lot of people are now getting into this
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conversation piece. We work our nine to fives all the
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way up to the age of 60. And we spend
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majority of our time working instead of actually surviving, right?
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We work eight hours a day. You travel back and
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forth to work. You come home. You probably sleep six
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to eight. Where's the rest of your life going? Family, kids, relationships,
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maybe going on travel.
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You know what I mean? And things like that.
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So there's a lot of power within what you're speaking
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about and things like that, right?
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Yeah, you said it very well. I actually... you know,
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describe it that this work mode that we are, that
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we're in like worker bees, you know, serving the system
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is what we're doing, you know, like robots, right? We're
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not really serving the needs of our own as individuals
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and the people we love per se. Very, very small
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percentage of the time, you know, do we even have
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to do that. And that's why time, more time is
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so important. You know, ending age and death is so important.
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We need more time. We need to break it open,
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you know, so that we can have the time to
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really develop ourselves and who we really are and have
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the connections we need with ourselves and one another. And to,
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like I say, in this battle of survival, it's the
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survival that keeps us in these work modes. And by
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getting out of survival, then we're going to enter the
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era of creativity. And that's where we want to be, creators.
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And all of us have within us the power of creation.
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You know, we're divine bodies, whether we realize it or not.
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That's what I write about in my book, too, Gospel
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of Longevity. I've been in this field for 50 years. And,
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you know, speaking all over the world on longevity and
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unlimited lifespans. And so I've had a lot of experiences,
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and I write about this in my book, how, you know,
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people are actually crying out now, you know, in their
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own body. They don't know what it always is about,
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but there's a primal scream for life because they because
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now we have such great communication outlets, we find out
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things a lot faster. You know, we're seeing, more people
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are seeing that, oh, we're kind of repeating the same old,
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same old all the time. You know, people want to
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get out of the work mode, but they don't know how.
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They want to get out of it just being worker bees.
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You know, they want to be, they don't want to
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live in a world anymore that's filled with this kind
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of strife. You know, we have one war, then another war,
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and this continuous pressure on us of survival. So I'm
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excited about this because, This is going to give us
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an opportunity where we're going now to in aging and death.
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It's going to give us an opportunity to really break
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open and expand our lives like we never have before.
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Absolutely. Well said, James.
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Wow.
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Well said.
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You know, we are, I feel like we are in
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the era of creativity right now. Like AI alone, you know,
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there's so many implementations of AI.
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In the last.
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I say when we were in the pandemic, we started
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to hear it a little bit.
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Now it's sizzling.
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You know, AI is replacing the artistic side of creators
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or people that are wanting to be, you know, draw
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and do all this other stuff. But I look at
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it and I'm saying to people like, look, what we do, right,
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is just maybe on the pie graph, maybe 30% of
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what we do. And we have to keep ebbs and flowing. Like,
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you have family, you would love to go out and
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let's just use this hypothetical. Watch sports, travel, do it.
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you want to go do. But we spend more time
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on this miscellaneous stuff that we don't really get a
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chance to just live.
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You know what I mean?
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So it's hard for a lot of folks, right? Like myself,
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I still work, but some folks are like, well, how
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do you do this podcast thing? You must have some
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fancy team. You may have all these things. It's like
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I know how to delve out my time. I know
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how to simply sit here and to push the things
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that I need to push out and then give myself
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a thing called balance. I can't keep hamster wheeling because
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if I hamster wheel, what's going to happen?
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I burn out. When I burn out, what's going to happen?
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I get sick. And when I get sick, what's going
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to happen? I'm stagnant. What happens when you're stagnant?
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Well said. So for me, I had an experience about
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four and a half years ago and I write it
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in my book. I actually... had what I call a
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really physical reborn experience. Not a religious reborn experience. It's
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different from a longevity perspective. And since then, I've gotten
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really clear that myself as an individual, I want to
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travel light. And I think that's a lot what you're
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talking about here. Not not always being creating all kinds
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of stuff around me. But this is what we do
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as human beings. We collect stuff. We're consumers, you know,
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and we're programmed to buy, buy, buy, you know, all
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the commercials, everything online, you know, that you get. It's
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a commercial, basically. You get some information along with it
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as a commercial to buy this or buy that. And
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I was into that for a long time. I mean,
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that context, you know. I enjoy purchasing stuff many times
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I wouldn't even use. So my wife would say, what
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are you buying that for? I said, well, it's there.
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But anyway, we're programmed to do that. That's going to
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give us some type of security by buying this stuff.
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And we surround ourselves with, I'm all for nice houses
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and cars and all that, but but not for the
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purpose of just trying to find your security in it.
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Your home, your car, the things we buy out is
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not your security. Security is getting in touch with who
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you are as a human being and finding the divinity
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of your own body, as I put it, and the
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power of creation in your body and how you can
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create in this world. And our real purpose, I think,
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as human beings is to create here heaven on earth.
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I think that We have this power of creation within
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us and we're to use it for not just existing
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and buying stuff. So I'm downsizing everything, you know, not
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because I'm retiring or anything, but because I want to
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travel lighter. I want to do more work and messaging
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out here in the world of what's possible when we
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get into the era of creativity and what's possible when
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we experience our own divinity, what we can do with
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ourselves and each other. So I want to get that
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message out there more than ever. So I appreciate you
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having me on your show because that's what I'm doing now.
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I'm getting every podcast I can get on. I spoke
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this at this big event, this science event about the
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gospel of longevity. And I'm getting this message out that, look,
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when you speak of AI, I want to say something
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on that real quick. So look, AI is fantastic, a
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fantastic tool. But like we all know, it's been pointed
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out by some of the top experts in it, that also,
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you know, it can, there's a possibility that that it
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could completely destroy humanity also. It could take over, right?
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So why is that? It's because our technology is advancing
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faster than our humanity, right? So we have to get
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in touch with our humanity that we're able to use
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this tool for humanity and not use it just for
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greed or for power or for war, because that's what
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will happen unless humanity changes, because we're not as developed.
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as human beings, as we have developed our technology. I
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heard a talk from an astrophysicist the other day who
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said that there's a good chance that there were other
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planets in our near galaxies or whatever that actually were human.
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There was life on that planet. But that life, their
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technology exceeded their humanity, exceeded their ability to handle that technology,
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and they blew themselves up. There were planets that blew
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themselves up because they could not manage their own advancements.
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And so this is so important for us. That's why
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this humanity we're talking about, this connection with ourselves is
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so important that we don't use these tools to destroy ourselves.
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Lots of power with what you said there. You know,
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I feel like life is so challenging as it is.
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You know what I mean? And when... When I think
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what happens is a lot of folks.
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I love what you said. You said something about downsizing,
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being a minimalist. I'm with you on that for a
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lot of reasons. So many folks are about the money.
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We know we need that to operate, move around.
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But when you're sitting here and you're all about the cars,
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the houses.
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how much money I can make in like two to
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three months. I'm like, you're losing the plot. Like you're
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losing the plot because it's like, if you think money's
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gonna make you happy, in theory, you can't take that
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to the grave with you. So what are you really
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living for? Are you living for the money or the
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longevity of your last name? See how I spun that.
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Or the longevity of your kids, right? Or your offspring,
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or to see your kids have kids.
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That's the ultimate goal. You know what I mean?
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I feel like that's, for me, That's not preached a
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lot enough here in this world because we have all
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these different things that are going on. We have wars.
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And I feel like, and you probably would agree to this.
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need to scale back a lot of the things. I
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feel like social media is a great tool, but I
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think there should be a blackout effect at some point
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in time because there's too much overconsumption going on. Too
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many times we're on Instagram, we're on TikTok, we're on
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these apps.
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Doing shenanigans. We're watching shenanigans. Doomscrolling.
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We don't want to put in our ears conversations like
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this because it's going to force us to level up.
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They'll listen to Rory. They'll listen to James. And they'll say, oh, yeah,
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they're talking. They're just talking.
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Who are they? Who are they?
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What do they know? Well, this is the reason why
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we have platforms like this. It doesn't matter if it's
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300 listens to a million listens to get the message across.
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So folks that want to engage into it, what do
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they do?
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They just... hey, you know what? Let me tap in.
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Let me write my book. Let me see all the
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talking points that are coming and I do my own research.
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You know what I mean? And if I need to
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get more research, I go to James Stroll and I
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go to his book.
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You know what I mean? Yeah. In fact, there's a
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lot of people talking to this now, you know, and
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some of the top experts in the field realizing that
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I heard again this individual the other day who's one
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of the, you work for a big AI company. Now
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he's chairman of the board for a, organization that's moving
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to scale down AI to slow it up fundamentally so
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that we can get ourselves positioned to be able to
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handle the fast development of this technology. His challenge, he said,
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is the greed. The people who want to get it
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out real fast, do whatever, not thinking of all the repercussions,
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just want to make the money on these companies. Then
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there's other companies that are listening to this because they
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realize that they need to slow down a little bit,
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make sure that our humanity, our intellect is able to
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handle this development moving that fast. So they realize that
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the repercussions to even their own company, because if they
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sabotage the world with AI, their company is not even
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going to exist. It's not like put two and two together.
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I mean, how safe is your money if you're sabotaging
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the world around you? So we have to think of
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it all. I'm not against money, but by any means,
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it's energy. It's about what we need. But that's even
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going to change as we move along. But that's another topic.
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But yes, thank you for saying that because there needs
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to be a governing effect on these things, not based
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on just some type of trying to control technology by
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any means, but also saying, hey, we need to make
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sure This works in a way that's complimentary to the
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development and can ensure our prosperity and our existence without
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jeopardizing everything.
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What was the first.
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Book or article or resource you went to to start
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this journey?
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I feel like that's a big question as well, too.
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Well, I actually had an experience that started this for me.
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You know, I was 11 years old, that young. And
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I was very close to my grandmother. You know, she
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was like a mentor of mine, very beautiful woman. And
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she contracted cancer. And I saw her before my eyes
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deteriorate and pass away. It's my first experience, like we've
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all had, that traumatizes us, where they realize they're not
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our first experience of death. Okay, we all have one.
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It's like our first experience with a love, right? Or
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our first love. We also have our first experience with death.
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And we don't realize, I did, but some people don't
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realize how to impact had on them, you know. But
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so she died. So she deteriorates in front of my eyes, dies.
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I said, my mother felt me suffering, you know, from it.
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I was hurt. I was in pain. And she said, oh,
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you know, don't be concerned. I mean, she wanted to
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comfort me. I said, well, when will I see grandmother again?
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She said, well, when you die and go to heaven. Well,
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that didn't first of all sound good that I had
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to die to go see my grandmother myself. You're a kid.
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You're not yet indoctrinated with everything that we impose on
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each other in this world. I said, oh, I popped
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out of my mouth. Why can't we have heaven here
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on earth? Why do we have to die to go
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to heaven? She said, oh, that's a good thought. You
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should pursue that. She was a very progressive person. She
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encouraged me on that along the way And that was
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always in me. What would it take for us to
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end aging and death, that we could have heaven here
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on earth? And so I began to pursue that in
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so many ways. I wrote themes about it in school.
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My teachers would come to me. Some of them would
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praise me. Some of them would go, oh, what's this?
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But I got a lot of encouragement along the way.
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And then I met my partners that I worked with
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in 1968, who had been talking about, in 1968, we're
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talking about unlimited lifespans going around the world. or going
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around the United States talking about it. And that's when
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I was in college and I decided to do, I wasn't,
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there was no course I could take on that in college.
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So I decided to leave college. I'd already, my third
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year and joined with them and, you know, and help
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build this world. So that's how that started for me.
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And yeah, it was, it's been a wonderful adventure. Very challenging.
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You know, back when I was speaking on longevity, And 1971,
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when I started working with them, no one's even speaking
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of longevity. They're speaking of health. Much less unlimited lifespans.
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But I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the experience. And I've
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met a lot of wonderful people. And that's why I'm
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doing where I'm at today. And with this large network
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we have now, people all over the world that are
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embracing this new life.
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That's well said. And that speaks to... With great influence
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comes great responsibility, right? Because a lot of the information
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that you got to share, and I know that you
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probably have to go through so much teachings, so much
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negative comments. I could just imagine what James is talking
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about is just the most ludicrous things, you know, because
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you hear that. Because I just came out of a,
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prior to this, doing this recording, I just came out
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of a recording and we're just speaking about the same thing.
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The negativity online. You could just bake cupcakes and dress
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them up however you want. And somebody is going to
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have some issue with you. Oh, you icing it the
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wrong way. It's like two centimeters to the left.
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And you're just like, wait, what are we doing? You
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know what I mean? And things like that.
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So how do you explain for yourself, right? When it
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comes down to your teachings and if there's folks that
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are throwing a negative side to it, what do you
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do in that, in that part?
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Because I used to, before I had what I just
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described as a reborn experience, I used to wrestle with
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them and, you know, conflict and, you know, try to
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talk them out of it. And, you know, you name it,
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you name it, you know. That's kind of the, you know,
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the way we've all been kind of programmed to respond
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as activists, right? And I was an activist. And so
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I would argue the points, you know. But I found
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out to be pretty futile to do that. It wasn't
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changing that person. So now... It's like I express and
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I feel a new freedom in my person after having
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this reborn experience. I'm able to speak boldly what I feel, okay?
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But I don't try to impose it on anybody. And
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if somebody has a disagreement on it, I ask them,
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you know, well, what is that disagreement and what are
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you feeling and why? You know, getting to the core
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because I like these conversations. I like more conversations than
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trying to pound something into somebody. And so I'll tell them, Well,
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here's how I feel about it. And I'm not trying
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to convince you of something, but at the same time,
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I'd like to have a conversation with you. So interesting enough,
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it begins to open up a conversation. I've had a
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lot of experience of this recently where I've asked people
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because I have some new thoughts and ideas that I'm saying.
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And they say, hey, you know, I'm going to express these.
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I'm going to be patient, you know, with myself and
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you to have a conversation. And so it opens up
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a new door because people really You know, the first
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responses might be really negative, but they really want to talk.
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Most people really want to get into a discussion that
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they want to find out, but they don't know how.
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They feel insecure about the conversation. So I'm more or less,
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I have more of a compassion. I'll use that term
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for people who say, don't understand what I'm saying. Look,
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I mean, I'm going to use a good example here
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because I'm a big advocate of Jesus, okay? I think
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Jesus was the first real longevity enthusiast in the world.
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I think he was all about life, you know? I mean,
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he just was filled with life and giving life to everybody.
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But look how he was totally misunderstood of his time.
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I mean, look at the conversation. Not even his disciples
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understood him completely. And of course, sometimes he had to
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speak in parables or he would have been murdered a
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lot sooner than he was. All right. But, but, but, but, but,
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you know, but he had to, he was, you know,
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why was he misunderstood? Because he was speaking to people
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who had been programmed for thousands of years to think
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a certain way. And we have to have compassion for
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these people at the same time, but not hold back
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on our expressions, you know, because, and get them into
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a conversation. Because they've been programmed. They're victims of a system, really.
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That's why Jesus said, forgive them. They do not know
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what they do. Because they've been programmed to think this way.
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The institutions, the indoctrinations, the brainwashing of the programs they
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were born into. So I have more of a compassion
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today from that experience with people. Because they have been
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victims of a system. We all have been. And it's
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not their fault. It's about a system that we've been
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born into.
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Well said, because you see that. Wow. You went biblical
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on us. And I love that you went there because
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it happened. Look at the old movie that came out
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when Not to, holy, people are going to be like,
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how do you know about that movie and how old
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are you, Rory? But the Ten Commandments.
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We saw that.
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Yes.
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Moses.
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Yes. Rod. Yes.
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Staff.
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In the actual sea. He splits the sea. He takes them.
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He walks with them. He goes up to the mountains
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to go get the tablets. What does he come back
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to see? Them praying to the golden calf. The frivolous
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things that I feel like has ruined a little bit
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of civilization a little bit because that's what people pray to.
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the frivolous things, but not knowing that weight. To get
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those things, you got to work hard for those things.
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Nothing's given to us in this world.
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You know what I mean?
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God gives us, or whatever your spiritual or universal belief says,
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he gives us the breath below.
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But we all have a destination, right? What is our destination?
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What's our purpose? And I feel like that's what we're
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speaking about now. We're speaking about purpose. You know what
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I mean?
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Because there's just so much things we can do with purpose.
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You speak about the book, the gospel longevity, that's a purpose. Now,
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my question to you, you have that in a book form.
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Is it an audio book as well?
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00:27:46.309 --> 00:27:48.930
Well, it's a book has just been published by Mark
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Victor Hanson publishing. He's the guy who wrote a chicken
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soup for the soul, you know, and he asked, yeah, yeah.
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And he actually lives here in Scottsdale. So I met
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him and then he read my book and loved it.
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And so I wanted to publish it. So, uh, But
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now we just got it in print. And the next
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thing I'm going to do is get an audio version
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of it. Because a lot of people like to listen
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to audio versions today.
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Oh, listen.
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Audiobooks is, listen, I do a lot of commuting, right?
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Even I find myself now going back now once we
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get into, what is it, mid-September. In October, I got
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to get back into audiobooks in the gym. Some people
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00:28:22.829 --> 00:28:25.109
are like, no music, no audiobooks. Because I feel like
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consuming words helps with either if you're reading it, but
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00:28:29.589 --> 00:28:32.029
for me, When you can consume words audio based on
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what I do with our podcast, you get to hear
527
00:28:35.109 --> 00:28:36.410
how wording and verbiage is.
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You know what I mean?
529
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So that's like a hidden talent that I look for.
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It's like patterns of how people talk and how they
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explain things.
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00:28:44.630 --> 00:28:47.950
Yeah, you know, thank you for saying that because, you know,
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I am going to get that audio book done here soon.
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00:28:51.529 --> 00:28:54.619
And because I know people, I like to listen to,
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you know, and I like to read too, but But
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like you say, we're always on the move so much
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00:29:01.299 --> 00:29:03.940
in the cars and flying or whatever. So audio books
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00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.400
are really great. Having said that, I wrote this book.
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00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.039
If you notice, it's actually not very thick. It's a
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total of about 197 pages. But it's very condensed. I
541
00:29:17.180 --> 00:29:19.640
didn't put fluff in it. I wrote this from my heart.
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00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:21.480
I wrote it from an anointing. And I think it
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00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:25.619
will really help people who, even if they're not into longevity,
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which it might help them get the sense of why
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00:29:29.849 --> 00:29:32.339
it's so important. But even if they're not into longevity,
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it'll help them understand or I'll say, bring a light
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to their own soul. You know, because that was the
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00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:43.059
experience that i that i had and speaking of moses
549
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:44.759
by the way when you said that thank you for
550
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saying that you know when he went up on the
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mount and he came down you know and saw this
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going on and worshiping the calf you know he threw
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the tablet at them you know he threw it at
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him he broke it you know And after that, you know,
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00:29:59.299 --> 00:30:02.599
of course, then supposedly God punished him and he didn't
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enter into the promised land because of that, because of
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his anger. Why? Because he realized that instead of writing,
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he said, that tablet on his piece of stone, he said,
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I should have written it in the tablets of their heart.
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You know, and that's what I'm talking about here. All
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the All the anguish, all the arguing, all the debating
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is not going to get us where we need to go.
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We need to write this message in the tablets of
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each other's hearts. And how is that done? It's by
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deeper communion with each other. It's by deeper conversations of
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the depths of our soul and touching the soul, not
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just touching the intellect. And so that's what this book
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is given to. And that's what I'm giving myself to now.
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And that's why I'm traveling lighter, I'll say, you know.
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to be able to give myself to that in more
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of a depth, and for my own self and for
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everyone that wants to partake.
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Let me ask you a question, because I always say
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you learn new things every day. Why do you think
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there's so much division right now in society?
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It's been there, okay? If you look back, in fact,
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I just was watching, I love Abraham Lincoln. As a kid,
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I used to read every book I could get my
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hands on. many other great people who have done things
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for humanity per se, Nelson Mandela, many others. But I
581
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:40.759
was watching this Netflix doctor drama about Lincoln recently, and
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everything that he experienced that was going on then is
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00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:48.660
going on now. We're repeating ourselves all the time. And
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the difference is now, is that we have social media,
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and so it's in our face more. Everything's in our
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00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.799
face more. Back with Lincoln, and when Lincoln was alive
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00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.240
and moving, it took a while for messages to get anywhere, right?
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But the same stuff is going on. And to me,
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it all has to do with, again, that we are traumatized.
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00:32:09.269 --> 00:32:11.789
We're in survival. We're born into a world of death,
591
00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:14.990
all right? That's why the reborn experience is so important.
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Jesus was asked, why are you here? By Nicodemus. He said,
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I'm here to bring a kingdom here on earth now. Whoa. Now,
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he said, not later. Now, he said. And he said,
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so Nicodemus says, well, how do I get there? He said, well,
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00:32:32.390 --> 00:32:35.430
you have to be reborn. And Nicodemus said, oh, I
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00:32:35.450 --> 00:32:37.309
can't go back in my mother's womb. And he's an
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00:32:37.349 --> 00:32:41.109
intelligent man, but see, that's indoctrination. I can't go back
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00:32:41.170 --> 00:32:43.079
in my mother's womb and be reborn. And Jesus said,
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I'm not talking about that kind of rebirth. I'm talking
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about the rebirth of your soul. And that's how you
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00:32:47.940 --> 00:32:54.039
enter the kingdom. Yeah. And so, you know, yes, we're
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00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.279
sick in our soul. Not because we're bad or good,
604
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.920
but because the system we're born into beats us up.
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And we're sick in our soul. And that's going to
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00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:06.519
continue until we get in touch with that awakening of
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00:33:06.579 --> 00:33:08.609
our soul. And that's why we need more time. That's
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why we also need longevity.
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00:33:12.789 --> 00:33:18.940
Seasoning. Seasoning, my friend. You know, I'll say this. I,
610
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:19.740
where I.
611
00:33:19.700 --> 00:33:22.539
Sit at age, I never really disclosed that age on this,
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just for purposes on the podcast and stuff like that.
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00:33:24.779 --> 00:33:28.720
But I sit back and I look at the pandemic,
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00:33:29.609 --> 00:33:32.930
whatever reservations people have. But the thing that I took
615
00:33:32.950 --> 00:33:37.329
from the pandemic was it drew a line in the sand.
616
00:33:38.609 --> 00:33:41.710
And it made folks have to make a choice. And
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00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:44.950
when they made that choice, I was the first person
618
00:33:44.970 --> 00:33:46.990
to come out. I'm not going to coin I was
619
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the first person.
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00:33:47.549 --> 00:33:48.049
I just say this.
621
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In my social groups where I said is once this
622
00:33:50.750 --> 00:33:52.950
is over, we will find out who was working the
623
00:33:52.990 --> 00:33:57.880
hardest in whatever lane and whatever area you're in. Because
624
00:33:57.910 --> 00:34:03.539
I think what happened is intentional listening communication was null
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and voided.
626
00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:07.980
We knew that it was a thing, but now it's.
627
00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:10.920
Like even more like you can't even get in contact
628
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.150
with certain people because they'll take like days to months
629
00:34:14.210 --> 00:34:16.269
to almost years to respond back. Cause they like, Oh,
630
00:34:16.289 --> 00:34:19.389
I didn't see the message. Yes, you did see the message.
631
00:34:19.769 --> 00:34:23.429
But it's like the distractions of where they said social distancing.
632
00:34:23.650 --> 00:34:25.309
People actually took it upon themselves and say, yo, I'm
633
00:34:25.349 --> 00:34:29.360
socially distancing. And that's the reason why friendships ended, relationships ended,
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00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:30.480
everything ended because the.
635
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.159
Whole world stopped. The whole world stopped.
636
00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:35.400
We were confined in our houses for a long period
637
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of time over here in Canada, Toronto. That lockdown was ridiculous.
638
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:45.469
But we had to improvise. FaceTime, phone calls, late night,
639
00:34:45.769 --> 00:34:47.090
like there was times I was up to like four
640
00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:48.489
or five o'clock in the morning, talking.
641
00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:51.090
To friends, gaming. Those were the moments.
642
00:34:52.510 --> 00:34:54.570
And that was good because you could build community, you
643
00:34:54.590 --> 00:34:57.809
could build brotherhood, sisterhood, whatever. But then there's some folks
644
00:34:57.829 --> 00:35:02.349
that just, they said, no, I'm socially distancing from everybody.
645
00:35:03.409 --> 00:35:06.110
And you have to wonder, it's like, wait, y'all let
646
00:35:06.369 --> 00:35:10.690
one thing change your whole entire perspective. Social distancing was
647
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Stepping six feet of distance from people, not removing yourself entirely.
648
00:35:16.139 --> 00:35:17.880
So I think what happens is some folks get caught
649
00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:21.039
up in the wordplay and the verbiage now. They hear
650
00:35:21.099 --> 00:35:26.090
things and they're misinformed with what's being said.
651
00:35:26.829 --> 00:35:29.849
That's so true. Yes, I do. Yeah, well said.
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00:35:30.730 --> 00:35:30.969
Yeah.
653
00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:35.050
Before we get out of here, though, my friend, with
654
00:35:35.070 --> 00:35:38.139
your plight and your wording, you travel all over the world.
655
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.639
Where is places right now you really want to put
656
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.360
your message out to? Is there one particular place? Maybe
657
00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:45.000
Canada again?
658
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:45.360
I don't know.
659
00:35:48.139 --> 00:35:51.860
Are you in Canada? I'm in Canada, Toronto, my friend.
660
00:35:52.179 --> 00:35:52.909
All right, all right.
661
00:35:52.969 --> 00:35:54.130
That's great. Where about in Canada?
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Toronto.
663
00:35:58.989 --> 00:36:05.269
So, look, I've been all over the world and had
664
00:36:05.409 --> 00:36:09.809
many wonderful experiences. What I'm excited about now is that
665
00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:14.730
at Radfest, there's a company there called Praxis. And they're
666
00:36:14.769 --> 00:36:18.309
an AI company. And they made, as a gift to me,
667
00:36:19.409 --> 00:36:22.320
a digital twin. Okay, I'm going to send it to you.
668
00:36:22.340 --> 00:36:26.880
It's a digital twin of me. Yes, yes. They uploaded
669
00:36:26.980 --> 00:36:29.400
all my books into it. They uploaded all my information,
670
00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:31.579
all my files. And it can talk to you just
671
00:36:31.619 --> 00:36:33.960
like I'm talking to you now. You can ask questions.
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00:36:33.980 --> 00:36:37.550
In fact, it's so quick. And it looks like me, okay?
673
00:36:38.329 --> 00:36:43.489
And it has all the mannerisms and it will, in fact,
674
00:36:43.510 --> 00:36:45.769
you might be having fun having it on your show sometime,
675
00:36:46.179 --> 00:36:47.260
you know, and I can be on with it. I
676
00:36:47.300 --> 00:36:48.340
don't know. We can talk about that.
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00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:48.679
Why not?
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00:36:48.739 --> 00:36:52.039
Let's do it. Let's do it all. Yeah. Well, it
679
00:36:52.059 --> 00:36:53.880
could be a big draw because people haven't seen this
680
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.440
like this before. And it's so advanced that it can
681
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.199
take most thoughts that we're putting together here and put
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00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:06.650
it together so fast that, you know, and it speaks
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00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:13.820
any language. language to it. We demoed it at RadFest
684
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:19.079
and Russian Girl, for example, came up and she said, oh, well,
685
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.670
I speak Russian. I said, yeah, you can speak to her.
686
00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:24.059
He speaks Russian. So she started speaking Russian to her.
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00:37:24.070 --> 00:37:25.820
She got just a kick out of speaking Russian to her.
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00:37:25.829 --> 00:37:30.070
She kept laughing the whole time. So it speaks like
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00:37:30.130 --> 00:37:32.670
right now 10 different languages, but they're programmed at all
690
00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:35.769
times to speak any language across the world. So I'm
691
00:37:35.789 --> 00:37:39.420
saying all that to say that now I'm going to send,
692
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.469
he's called James Unlimited. I'm James and he's James Unlimited.
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00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:45.349
So I'm going to send him around the world, right?
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00:37:45.409 --> 00:37:49.130
To people and they can have this conversation with me,
695
00:37:49.170 --> 00:37:52.269
my twin, you know, ask questions that normally they might
696
00:37:52.309 --> 00:37:54.769
not in person ask me because they feel uncomfortable with
697
00:37:54.789 --> 00:37:58.070
some people, you know, and they can take it in
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00:37:58.090 --> 00:38:00.630
their home and talk to me and talk to me
699
00:38:00.670 --> 00:38:03.360
about my book or whatever and get answers they want
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00:38:03.380 --> 00:38:07.469
to get. So this way I'm multiplying myself. to be
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00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:09.909
able to get this message out. Now, I'll still travel
702
00:38:09.949 --> 00:38:13.360
in invitations to places to speak personally because it can't
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00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.920
replace any of us as individuals because even though it
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00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:20.699
has the information, it doesn't have the spirit, right? It
705
00:38:20.739 --> 00:38:24.619
doesn't have the soul. That's something for us to be
706
00:38:24.659 --> 00:38:27.840
so in touch with. So it's never going to replace me,
707
00:38:28.420 --> 00:38:30.780
but it's a great tool. And so when you ask
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00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.159
me what I'm going to do as far as travel
709
00:38:33.179 --> 00:38:34.360
or anything, I'm going to send it out.
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00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:35.820
I love that.
711
00:38:36.630 --> 00:38:38.449
Yeah, and then it will get, yeah, it will cover
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00:38:38.489 --> 00:38:41.659
more ground. That's what's important right now to me is
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00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.599
getting the message out. It's not about me, okay? And
714
00:38:44.619 --> 00:38:47.059
yet it is, but it's about, it includes me because
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I'm a human being that needs this also. But it's
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about the message for everybody to awaken the soul.
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Well said.
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And listen, you have an open invite. to bring James unlimited.
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Cause I love to have a conversation with James unlimited.
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Let's see what James limit is all about.
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You know, let's do it. Let's do it sometime. You know,
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you know what I, what I'll do. Yeah. What I'll
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do is I'll send you a, and if I don't
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send it, send me a reminder. I'm having to do a,
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I mean, it kind of overwhelmed at the rat fest
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with a lot of people responding to them, but I
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want to send it. I sent it to you for
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a trial basis. You'll get an email and you can
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go on there. I think what they set it up
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for is like a three week period where you can
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just try it, you know, and then, you know, see
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for yourself. And then if you want to have me
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and James Unlimited on the show together, we can interact.
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It might be fun.
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I think that would be interactive. You know what I mean?
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I think like I'm up to so many things when
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it comes to podcasting. So I think it'd be a
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cool experience of the new greatest technology of what we
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have going on.
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You know what I mean?
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So... You get quite a bit of attendance. Yeah, you
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probably get quite a bit of attendance that say, hey,
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I got an AI, you know, version. I got a identical...
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They call it a digital twin of James Stroh.
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You're giving me some ideas. I'm like, wait, do I
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make a digital twin Mitchell, Borden, Leach, Rory host? Go host, maybe?
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It's available for anybody who wants to... I think right now,
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don't quote me on this, but I think there actually
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will set people up.
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It's in.
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Right now, they're a new company. And so they're in
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developmental stages. But I think they're charging around $ 5, 000 for
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it to create somebody's digital twin. But, oh, my God,
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it's so worth it. I mean, it's such a great value,
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you know. But anyway, so.
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No, James, I appreciate you for doing this. And definitely you, yourself,
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your team, let's keep in touch, you know, set that
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up and stuff like that. But before we get out
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of here, how do we become 1% better in just–
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mindset in the world, things like that.
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You know, get in the conversation like we're getting in now.
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These are more than just conversations. You know, where we've
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gone together is a deep corner of the deep, I
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call it. And whether we realize it or not, it
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changes us. Probably more than 1%. Who knows, though? But
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there's changes that happen. And when you move to touch
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the soul, when you move to go deeper than you've
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ever gone before with an individual or individuals, And that's
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one issue that is a problem in the world that
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most people like to stay in a superficial level of
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communication because it's their comfort zone. But go past your
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comfort zone. Say things that are in your heart. Begin
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to express what do you really envision for yourself? Why
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were you born in this world? Was it just to
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exist and collect things and then die? There's got to
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be more than that. Get in that conversation. Even if
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you've got a friend, bring it up. I remember in college,
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I was known for that with my friends. And although
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they'd make fun of me sometimes because of it, because
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they would maybe be stoned and I'd be just high
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in my life. And they'd go, what are you on?
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And I said, I'm on the spirit of my body.
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And so I would express to them, and they loved
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it overall. But don't be afraid to say what's in
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your heart. This is so important. And this is where
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the growth is, really. The growth happens when you allow
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that primal... that primal thoughts, those thoughts that you have
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suppressed in your body to come out.
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Man, seasoning.
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Seasoning for the soul, ladies and gentlemen. James, plug all
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your information, plug your book, your website, all that good stuff.
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It's going to be in the show notes as well, everyone,
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but by all means, please.
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The Gospel of Longevity. I've written four books. This is
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the one that I wrote about my experience in this
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soul awakening. It's so important. I'm not just trying to
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sell books because I'm trying to Just get this information out.
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I think it's so vital for every human being. You
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can get this on Amazon. It's a softcover or hardcover.
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I think they're about $ 15 on Amazon. And it will
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come in three or four days, depending where you're at,
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and read it. And then get in this discussion. Talk
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about this. Talk about it with other people. It's going
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to spread. And if people want to come also, we
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have a company here in town called People Unlimited. They
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can just Google People Unlimited. It's very simple. And we
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have events twice a week here. And no matter where
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you're at, you can come online and get in the
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same discussion live with a lot of people, usually 60,
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80 people who are in person once a week and
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then online once a week. So there's that variation. So
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I invite you, Rory, to even come in town. Come online.
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Come on town. Disgustia, visit me sometime. Come here on
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the event. Do a podcast from here maybe, whatever you feel. Yeah, definitely.
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But anyway, I'd like to keep up the communication, and
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thank you for having me on.
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Hey, I appreciate you too, and definitely I'll be, like
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I said, in communication with yourself, your team, and let's
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set something up, definitely.
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Ladies and gentlemen, you know, I have a wonderful individual
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that's doing some great things.
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James Stroll, welcome to the Mitchell Point Leach podcast, my friend.
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You did it.
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Yeah.
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You just came off of the heels of doing an event.
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Speak to the event real quick, because I know you
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said that it took a lot out of you, but
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how's that feeling after the event and all that good stuff?
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The event was extraordinary. It's a very inspirational and also
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informational event. We bring together the top science in the
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world from all over the world on super longevity. Super longevity,
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just to give a short explanation, is a little bit
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different than just longevity. Super longevity is about reversing aging. And,
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of course, we have all the same modalities of wellness
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and maintaining health. But our focus is with scientists and
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doctors that are working on age reversal or slowing aging protocols.
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So it's very extraordinary. It's eye-opening for people because there
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are a lot of modalities and therapies right now that
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are on the table or in the lab that are
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waiting for human trials that can reverse aging. These great
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scientists like Ray Kurzweil, who you probably know, who is
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kind of the father of RADFEST and the Coalition for
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Radical Hypertension. And then there's Dr. Bill Andrews and and
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Aubrey de Grey, others that are on our team. And
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they're bringing, you know, great new therapies and innovations to
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the table that I think, I personally think within one
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to three years, we're going to see a age reversal
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innovation that will dramatically reverse human aging, which is exciting because,
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you know, we're in a world of survival, you know,
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and in that world of survival, We're always battling with
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ourselves and one another because death, per se, aging and
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death corrupt the human soul. They corrupt our growth. And
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so by making that breakthrough, it's going to give us
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a whole new world. And I call it, you know,
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in my book, which I think you probably heard about,
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The Gospel of Longevity that gets finished. I write about that,
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where we have an opportunity through this window to create change.
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what I call heaven here on earth. And heaven here
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on earth is where we can get out of survival
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into the era of creativity.
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Love that. I love that.
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So when you speak to this longevity, because I feel
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like there's going to be a lot of things folks
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are going to say.
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It's woo-woo. There is no such thing.
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How do we explain this as both you and I
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having this conversation?
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So It's palatable for folks to understand.
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Yes. I mean, that, that's pretty, uh, I understand that
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they don't understand because it's like anything, any other advancement.
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You know, people didn't embrace it until they saw it
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in their face, uh, or they learned more information about it.
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But what I, you know, whether it was flying, whether
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it was a break, you know, whether it was, uh,
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you know, breaking the four minute mile, people thought it
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was impossible. You know, scientists used to say then that
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a human body would explode. I just read a couple
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of days ago that there's a teenager that actually smashed
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that last record of breaking the form in a mile.
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He did it like 3.85 or something like that, you know,
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which just shows you what's possible when humans give themselves
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to it. And I would encourage people who say don't
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think it's woo-woo or not possible to to do some research.
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I mean, top companies in the world now, Google, Elon
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Musk now are embracing unlimited lifespans because, first of all,
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they feel that it's a way out of the survival
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that we're in that keeps us sabotaging our human existence.
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But it's inevitable because we're at the point in our
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humanity that we need to come up with something new
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that takes us out of this struggle all the time.
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And it can create a whole new world. I mean,
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when you're going to, for example, Elon Musk wants to
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go into space, you know, way to Mars. I mean,
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you know, we're going to need extended lifespans, not only
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to do things you want to do in space, for example,
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but to do things to discover who we really are
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as human beings. So already, though, there's a lot for
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folks who say are skeptical of this. They need to get,
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you know, learn, get educated. Nowadays, unlike, say, you know, 50,
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100 years ago where, you know, the automobile came, other
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things where there wasn't as much, you know, opportunity to
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study what's happening. You know, now we have internet, you know,
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now we have, you know, access to information, you know,
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go online, research it, go, you know, study the science.
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There's already a lot of science proven that's evident that
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we can conquer aging and death. It's just a matter
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of time. So some experts right now, like Greg, you know,
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our Edison of the day, Ray Kurzweil, one of the most,
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you know, smartest men on the planet, are saying that
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in 2032, we're going to reach what he calls singularity,
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which is the era of immortality, where, you know, it's
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going to be a whole new world. And what? That's just,
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in my calculation, that's four or six years away. So
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it's interesting, though, that, you know, A lot of people
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aren't privy to this because they're living their lives just
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on a daily by day experiences. And most people do
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not delve into researching things until it's in their face.
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But I would encourage people to do that because this
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is a real matter of their own existence for them,
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for their children, for their grandchildren. You know, this is
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a whole new world coming about and it's going to
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happen whether you believe it or not.
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So true.
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You know, and there's a lot of power with what
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you're talking about because I feel like there's the work
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aspect that we do. Then there's the content and building
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our businesses that we do as well. And I feel
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like a lot of people are now getting into this
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conversation piece. We work our nine to fives all the
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way up to the age of 60. And we spend
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majority of our time working instead of actually surviving, right?
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We work eight hours a day. You travel back and
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forth to work. You come home. You probably sleep six
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to eight. Where's the rest of your life going? Family, kids, relationships,
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maybe going on travel.
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You know what I mean? And things like that.
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So there's a lot of power within what you're speaking
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about and things like that, right?
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Yeah, you said it very well. I actually... you know,
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describe it that this work mode that we are, that
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we're in like worker bees, you know, serving the system
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is what we're doing, you know, like robots, right? We're
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not really serving the needs of our own as individuals
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and the people we love per se. Very, very small
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percentage of the time, you know, do we even have
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to do that. And that's why time, more time is
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so important. You know, ending age and death is so important.
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We need more time. We need to break it open,
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you know, so that we can have the time to
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really develop ourselves and who we really are and have
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the connections we need with ourselves and one another. And to,
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like I say, in this battle of survival, it's the
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survival that keeps us in these work modes. And by
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getting out of survival, then we're going to enter the
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era of creativity. And that's where we want to be, creators.
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That's what I write about in my book, too, Gospel
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of Longevity. I've been in this field for 50 years. And,
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you know, speaking all over the world on longevity and
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unlimited lifespans. And so I've had a lot of experiences,
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and I write about this in my book, how, you know,
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people are actually crying out now, you know, in their
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own body. They don't know what it always is about,
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but there's a primal scream for life because they because
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now we have such great communication outlets, we find out
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things a lot faster. You know, we're seeing, more people
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are seeing that, oh, we're kind of repeating the same old,
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same old all the time. You know, people want to
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get out of the work mode, but they don't know how.
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They want to get out of it just being worker bees.
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live in a world anymore that's filled with this kind
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of strife. You know, we have one war, then another war,
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and this continuous pressure on us of survival. So I'm
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excited about this because, This is going to give us
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an opportunity where we're going now to in aging and death.
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open and expand our lives like we never have before.
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Absolutely. Well said, James.
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Well said.
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You know, we are, I feel like we are in
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the era of creativity right now. Like AI alone, you know,
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there's so many implementations of AI.
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I say when we were in the pandemic, we started
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to hear it a little bit.
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Now it's sizzling.
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or people that are wanting to be, you know, draw
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and do all this other stuff. But I look at
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it and I'm saying to people like, look, what we do, right,
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is just maybe on the pie graph, maybe 30% of
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what we do. And we have to keep ebbs and flowing. Like,
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you have family, you would love to go out and
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let's just use this hypothetical. Watch sports, travel, do it.
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you want to go do. But we spend more time
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on this miscellaneous stuff that we don't really get a
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chance to just live.
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You know what I mean?
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So it's hard for a lot of folks, right? Like myself,
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I still work, but some folks are like, well, how
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do you do this podcast thing? You must have some
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fancy team. You may have all these things. It's like
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I know how to delve out my time. I know
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how to simply sit here and to push the things
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that I need to push out and then give myself
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a thing called balance. I can't keep hamster wheeling because
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if I hamster wheel, what's going to happen?
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I burn out. When I burn out, what's going to happen?
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I get sick. And when I get sick, what's going
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to happen? I'm stagnant. What happens when you're stagnant?
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Well said. So for me, I had an experience about
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four and a half years ago and I write it
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in my book. I actually... had what I call a
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really physical reborn experience. Not a religious reborn experience. It's
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different from a longevity perspective. And since then, I've gotten
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really clear that myself as an individual, I want to
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travel light. And I think that's a lot what you're
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talking about here. Not not always being creating all kinds
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of stuff around me. But this is what we do
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as human beings. We collect stuff. We're consumers, you know,
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and we're programmed to buy, buy, buy, you know, all
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the commercials, everything online, you know, that you get. It's
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a commercial, basically. You get some information along with it
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as a commercial to buy this or buy that. And
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that context, you know. I enjoy purchasing stuff many times
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I wouldn't even use. So my wife would say, what
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are you buying that for? I said, well, it's there.
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give us some type of security by buying this stuff.
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and cars and all that, but but not for the
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purpose of just trying to find your security in it.
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not your security. Security is getting in touch with who
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you are as a human being and finding the divinity
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of your own body, as I put it, and the
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power of creation in your body and how you can
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create in this world. And our real purpose, I think,
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as human beings is to create here heaven on earth.
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I think that We have this power of creation within
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us and we're to use it for not just existing
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and buying stuff. So I'm downsizing everything, you know, not
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because I'm retiring or anything, but because I want to
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travel lighter. I want to do more work and messaging
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out here in the world of what's possible when we
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get into the era of creativity and what's possible when
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we experience our own divinity, what we can do with
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ourselves and each other. So I want to get that
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message out there more than ever. So I appreciate you
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having me on your show because that's what I'm doing now.
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I'm getting every podcast I can get on. I spoke
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this at this big event, this science event about the
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gospel of longevity. And I'm getting this message out that, look,
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when you speak of AI, I want to say something
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on that real quick. So look, AI is fantastic, a
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fantastic tool. But like we all know, it's been pointed
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out by some of the top experts in it, that also,
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you know, it can, there's a possibility that that it
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could completely destroy humanity also. It could take over, right?
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So why is that? It's because our technology is advancing
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faster than our humanity, right? So we have to get
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in touch with our humanity that we're able to use
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this tool for humanity and not use it just for
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greed or for power or for war, because that's what
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will happen unless humanity changes, because we're not as developed.
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as human beings, as we have developed our technology. I
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heard a talk from an astrophysicist the other day who
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said that there's a good chance that there were other
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planets in our near galaxies or whatever that actually were human.
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There was life on that planet. But that life, their
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technology exceeded their humanity, exceeded their ability to handle that technology,
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and they blew themselves up. There were planets that blew
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themselves up because they could not manage their own advancements.
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this humanity we're talking about, this connection with ourselves is
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so important that we don't use these tools to destroy ourselves.
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Lots of power with what you said there. You know,
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I feel like life is so challenging as it is.
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what happens is a lot of folks.
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I love what you said. You said something about downsizing,
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being a minimalist. I'm with you on that for a
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lot of reasons. So many folks are about the money.
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the houses.
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how much money I can make in like two to
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three months. I'm like, you're losing the plot. Like you're
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losing the plot because it's like, if you think money's
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gonna make you happy, in theory, you can't take that
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to the grave with you. So what are you really
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living for? Are you living for the money or the
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longevity of your last name? See how I spun that.
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Or the longevity of your kids, right? Or your offspring,
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or to see your kids have kids.
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That's the ultimate goal. You know what I mean?
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I feel like that's, for me, That's not preached a
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lot enough here in this world because we have all
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these different things that are going on. We have wars.
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need to scale back a lot of the things. I
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feel like social media is a great tool, but I
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think there should be a blackout effect at some point
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in time because there's too much overconsumption going on. Too
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many times we're on Instagram, we're on TikTok, we're on
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these apps.
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Doing shenanigans. We're watching shenanigans. Doomscrolling.
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We don't want to put in our ears conversations like
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this because it's going to force us to level up.
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They'll listen to Rory. They'll listen to James. And they'll say, oh, yeah,
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they're talking. They're just talking.
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Who are they? Who are they?
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What do they know? Well, this is the reason why
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we have platforms like this. It doesn't matter if it's
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300 listens to a million listens to get the message across.
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So folks that want to engage into it, what do
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they do?
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They just... hey, you know what? Let me tap in.
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Let me write my book. Let me see all the
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talking points that are coming and I do my own research.
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You know what I mean? And if I need to
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get more research, I go to James Stroll and I
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go to his book.
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lot of people talking to this now, you know, and
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some of the top experts in the field realizing that
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I heard again this individual the other day who's one
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of the, you work for a big AI company. Now
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he's chairman of the board for a, organization that's moving
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to scale down AI to slow it up fundamentally so
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that we can get ourselves positioned to be able to
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handle the fast development of this technology. His challenge, he said,
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is the greed. The people who want to get it
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out real fast, do whatever, not thinking of all the repercussions,
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just want to make the money on these companies. Then
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there's other companies that are listening to this because they
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realize that they need to slow down a little bit,
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make sure that our humanity, our intellect is able to
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handle this development moving that fast. So they realize that
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the repercussions to even their own company, because if they
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sabotage the world with AI, their company is not even
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going to exist. It's not like put two and two together.
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I mean, how safe is your money if you're sabotaging
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the world around you? So we have to think of
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it all. I'm not against money, but by any means,
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it's energy. It's about what we need. But that's even
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going to change as we move along. But that's another topic.
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But yes, thank you for saying that because there needs
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to be a governing effect on these things, not based
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on just some type of trying to control technology by
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any means, but also saying, hey, we need to make
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sure This works in a way that's complimentary to the
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development and can ensure our prosperity and our existence without
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jeopardizing everything.
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What was the first.
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Book or article or resource you went to to start
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this journey?
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Well, I actually had an experience that started this for me.
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I was very close to my grandmother. You know, she
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was like a mentor of mine, very beautiful woman. And
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she contracted cancer. And I saw her before my eyes
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deteriorate and pass away. It's my first experience, like we've
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all had, that traumatizes us, where they realize they're not
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our first experience of death. Okay, we all have one.
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It's like our first experience with a love, right? Or
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our first love. We also have our first experience with death.
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realize how to impact had on them, you know. But
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so she died. So she deteriorates in front of my eyes, dies.
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I said, my mother felt me suffering, you know, from it.
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I was hurt. I was in pain. And she said, oh,
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you know, don't be concerned. I mean, she wanted to
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comfort me. I said, well, when will I see grandmother again?
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She said, well, when you die and go to heaven. Well,
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that didn't first of all sound good that I had
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to die to go see my grandmother myself. You're a kid.
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each other in this world. I said, oh, I popped
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out of my mouth. Why can't we have heaven here
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on earth? Why do we have to die to go
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to heaven? She said, oh, that's a good thought. You
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should pursue that. She was a very progressive person. She
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encouraged me on that along the way And that was
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always in me. What would it take for us to
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end aging and death, that we could have heaven here
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on earth? And so I began to pursue that in
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so many ways. I wrote themes about it in school.
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My teachers would come to me. Some of them would
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praise me. Some of them would go, oh, what's this?
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But I got a lot of encouragement along the way.
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And then I met my partners that I worked with
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in 1968, who had been talking about, in 1968, we're
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talking about unlimited lifespans going around the world. or going
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around the United States talking about it. And that's when
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I was in college and I decided to do, I wasn't,
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there was no course I could take on that in college.
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So I decided to leave college. I'd already, my third
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year and joined with them and, you know, and help
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build this world. So that's how that started for me.
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And yeah, it was, it's been a wonderful adventure. Very challenging.
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You know, back when I was speaking on longevity, And 1971,
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when I started working with them, no one's even speaking
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of longevity. They're speaking of health. Much less unlimited lifespans.
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But I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the experience. And I've
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met a lot of wonderful people. And that's why I'm
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doing where I'm at today. And with this large network
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we have now, people all over the world that are
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embracing this new life.
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That's well said. And that speaks to... With great influence
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comes great responsibility, right? Because a lot of the information
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that you got to share, and I know that you
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probably have to go through so much teachings, so much
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negative comments. I could just imagine what James is talking
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about is just the most ludicrous things, you know, because
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you hear that. Because I just came out of a,
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prior to this, doing this recording, I just came out
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of a recording and we're just speaking about the same thing.
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The negativity online. You could just bake cupcakes and dress
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them up however you want. And somebody is going to
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have some issue with you. Oh, you icing it the
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wrong way. It's like two centimeters to the left.
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And you're just like, wait, what are we doing? You
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know what I mean? And things like that.
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So how do you explain for yourself, right? When it
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comes down to your teachings and if there's folks that
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are throwing a negative side to it, what do you
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do in that, in that part?
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Because I used to, before I had what I just
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described as a reborn experience, I used to wrestle with
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them and, you know, conflict and, you know, try to
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talk them out of it. And, you know, you name it,
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you name it, you know. That's kind of the, you know,
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the way we've all been kind of programmed to respond
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as activists, right? And I was an activist. And so
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I would argue the points, you know. But I found
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out to be pretty futile to do that. It wasn't
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changing that person. So now... It's like I express and
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I feel a new freedom in my person after having
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this reborn experience. I'm able to speak boldly what I feel, okay?
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But I don't try to impose it on anybody. And
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if somebody has a disagreement on it, I ask them,
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you know, well, what is that disagreement and what are
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you feeling and why? You know, getting to the core
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because I like these conversations. I like more conversations than
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trying to pound something into somebody. And so I'll tell them, Well,
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here's how I feel about it. And I'm not trying
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to convince you of something, but at the same time,
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I'd like to have a conversation with you. So interesting enough,
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it begins to open up a conversation. I've had a
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lot of experience of this recently where I've asked people
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because I have some new thoughts and ideas that I'm saying.
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And they say, hey, you know, I'm going to express these.
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I'm going to be patient, you know, with myself and
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you to have a conversation. And so it opens up
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a new door because people really You know, the first
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responses might be really negative, but they really want to talk.
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Most people really want to get into a discussion that
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they want to find out, but they don't know how.
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They feel insecure about the conversation. So I'm more or less,
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I have more of a compassion. I'll use that term
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for people who say, don't understand what I'm saying. Look,
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I mean, I'm going to use a good example here
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because I'm a big advocate of Jesus, okay? I think
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Jesus was the first real longevity enthusiast in the world.
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I think he was all about life, you know? I mean,
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he just was filled with life and giving life to everybody.
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But look how he was totally misunderstood of his time.
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I mean, look at the conversation. Not even his disciples
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understood him completely. And of course, sometimes he had to
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speak in parables or he would have been murdered a
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lot sooner than he was. All right. But, but, but, but, but,
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you know, but he had to, he was, you know,
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why was he misunderstood? Because he was speaking to people
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who had been programmed for thousands of years to think
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a certain way. And we have to have compassion for
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these people at the same time, but not hold back
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on our expressions, you know, because, and get them into
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a conversation. Because they've been programmed. They're victims of a system, really.
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That's why Jesus said, forgive them. They do not know
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what they do. Because they've been programmed to think this way.
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The institutions, the indoctrinations, the brainwashing of the programs they
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were born into. So I have more of a compassion
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today from that experience with people. Because they have been
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victims of a system. We all have been. And it's
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not their fault. It's about a system that we've been
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born into.
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Well said, because you see that. Wow. You went biblical
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on us. And I love that you went there because
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it happened. Look at the old movie that came out
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when Not to, holy, people are going to be like,
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how do you know about that movie and how old
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are you, Rory? But the Ten Commandments.
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We saw that.
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Yes.
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Moses.
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Yes. Rod. Yes.
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Staff.
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In the actual sea. He splits the sea. He takes them.
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He walks with them. He goes up to the mountains
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to go get the tablets. What does he come back
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to see? Them praying to the golden calf. The frivolous
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things that I feel like has ruined a little bit
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of civilization a little bit because that's what people pray to.
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the frivolous things, but not knowing that weight. To get
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those things, you got to work hard for those things.
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Nothing's given to us in this world.
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You know what I mean?
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God gives us, or whatever your spiritual or universal belief says,
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he gives us the breath below.
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But we all have a destination, right? What is our destination?
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What's our purpose? And I feel like that's what we're
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speaking about now. We're speaking about purpose. You know what
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I mean?
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Because there's just so much things we can do with purpose.
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You speak about the book, the gospel longevity, that's a purpose. Now,
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my question to you, you have that in a book form.
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Is it an audio book as well?
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Well, it's a book has just been published by Mark
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Victor Hanson publishing. He's the guy who wrote a chicken
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soup for the soul, you know, and he asked, yeah, yeah.
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And he actually lives here in Scottsdale. So I met
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him and then he read my book and loved it.
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And so I wanted to publish it. So, uh, But
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now we just got it in print. And the next
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thing I'm going to do is get an audio version
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of it. Because a lot of people like to listen
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to audio versions today.
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Oh, listen.
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Audiobooks is, listen, I do a lot of commuting, right?
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Even I find myself now going back now once we
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get into, what is it, mid-September. In October, I got
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to get back into audiobooks in the gym. Some people
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are like, no music, no audiobooks. Because I feel like
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consuming words helps with either if you're reading it, but
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for me, When you can consume words audio based on
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what I do with our podcast, you get to hear
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how wording and verbiage is.
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You know what I mean?
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So that's like a hidden talent that I look for.
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It's like patterns of how people talk and how they
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explain things.
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Yeah, you know, thank you for saying that because, you know,
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I am going to get that audio book done here soon.
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And because I know people, I like to listen to,
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you know, and I like to read too, but But
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like you say, we're always on the move so much
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in the cars and flying or whatever. So audio books
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are really great. Having said that, I wrote this book.
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If you notice, it's actually not very thick. It's a
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total of about 197 pages. But it's very condensed. I
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didn't put fluff in it. I wrote this from my heart.
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I wrote it from an anointing. And I think it
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will really help people who, even if they're not into longevity,
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which it might help them get the sense of why
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it's so important. But even if they're not into longevity,
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it'll help them understand or I'll say, bring a light
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to their own soul. You know, because that was the
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experience that i that i had and speaking of moses
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by the way when you said that thank you for
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saying that you know when he went up on the
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mount and he came down you know and saw this
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going on and worshiping the calf you know he threw
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the tablet at them you know he threw it at
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him he broke it you know And after that, you know,
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of course, then supposedly God punished him and he didn't
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enter into the promised land because of that, because of
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his anger. Why? Because he realized that instead of writing,
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he said, that tablet on his piece of stone, he said,
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I should have written it in the tablets of their heart.
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You know, and that's what I'm talking about here. All
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the All the anguish, all the arguing, all the debating
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is not going to get us where we need to go.
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We need to write this message in the tablets of
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each other's hearts. And how is that done? It's by
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deeper communion with each other. It's by deeper conversations of
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the depths of our soul and touching the soul, not
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just touching the intellect. And so that's what this book
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is given to. And that's what I'm giving myself to now.
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And that's why I'm traveling lighter, I'll say, you know.
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to be able to give myself to that in more
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of a depth, and for my own self and for
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everyone that wants to partake.
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Let me ask you a question, because I always say
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you learn new things every day. Why do you think
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there's so much division right now in society?
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It's been there, okay? If you look back, in fact,
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I just was watching, I love Abraham Lincoln. As a kid,
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I used to read every book I could get my
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hands on. many other great people who have done things
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for humanity per se, Nelson Mandela, many others. But I
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was watching this Netflix doctor drama about Lincoln recently, and
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everything that he experienced that was going on then is
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going on now. We're repeating ourselves all the time. And
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the difference is now, is that we have social media,
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and so it's in our face more. Everything's in our
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face more. Back with Lincoln, and when Lincoln was alive
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and moving, it took a while for messages to get anywhere, right?
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But the same stuff is going on. And to me,
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it all has to do with, again, that we are traumatized.
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We're in survival. We're born into a world of death,
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all right? That's why the reborn experience is so important.
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Jesus was asked, why are you here? By Nicodemus. He said,
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I'm here to bring a kingdom here on earth now. Whoa. Now,
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he said, not later. Now, he said. And he said,
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so Nicodemus says, well, how do I get there? He said, well,
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you have to be reborn. And Nicodemus said, oh, I
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can't go back in my mother's womb. And he's an
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intelligent man, but see, that's indoctrination. I can't go back
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in my mother's womb and be reborn. And Jesus said,
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I'm not talking about that kind of rebirth. I'm talking
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about the rebirth of your soul. And that's how you
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enter the kingdom. Yeah. And so, you know, yes, we're
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sick in our soul. Not because we're bad or good,
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but because the system we're born into beats us up.
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And we're sick in our soul. And that's going to
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continue until we get in touch with that awakening of
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our soul. And that's why we need more time. That's
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why we also need longevity.
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Seasoning. Seasoning, my friend. You know, I'll say this. I,
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where I.
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Sit at age, I never really disclosed that age on this,
612
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just for purposes on the podcast and stuff like that.
613
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But I sit back and I look at the pandemic,
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whatever reservations people have. But the thing that I took
615
00:33:32.950 --> 00:33:37.329
from the pandemic was it drew a line in the sand.
616
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And it made folks have to make a choice. And
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00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:44.950
when they made that choice, I was the first person
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to come out. I'm not going to coin I was
619
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the first person.
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I just say this.
621
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In my social groups where I said is once this
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is over, we will find out who was working the
623
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hardest in whatever lane and whatever area you're in. Because
624
00:33:57.910 --> 00:34:03.539
I think what happened is intentional listening communication was null
625
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and voided.
626
00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:07.980
We knew that it was a thing, but now it's.
627
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Like even more like you can't even get in contact
628
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.150
with certain people because they'll take like days to months
629
00:34:14.210 --> 00:34:16.269
to almost years to respond back. Cause they like, Oh,
630
00:34:16.289 --> 00:34:19.389
I didn't see the message. Yes, you did see the message.
631
00:34:19.769 --> 00:34:23.429
But it's like the distractions of where they said social distancing.
632
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People actually took it upon themselves and say, yo, I'm
633
00:34:25.349 --> 00:34:29.360
socially distancing. And that's the reason why friendships ended, relationships ended,
634
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:30.480
everything ended because the.
635
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.159
Whole world stopped. The whole world stopped.
636
00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:35.400
We were confined in our houses for a long period
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of time over here in Canada, Toronto. That lockdown was ridiculous.
638
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:45.469
But we had to improvise. FaceTime, phone calls, late night,
639
00:34:45.769 --> 00:34:47.090
like there was times I was up to like four
640
00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:48.489
or five o'clock in the morning, talking.
641
00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:51.090
To friends, gaming. Those were the moments.
642
00:34:52.510 --> 00:34:54.570
And that was good because you could build community, you
643
00:34:54.590 --> 00:34:57.809
could build brotherhood, sisterhood, whatever. But then there's some folks
644
00:34:57.829 --> 00:35:02.349
that just, they said, no, I'm socially distancing from everybody.
645
00:35:03.409 --> 00:35:06.110
And you have to wonder, it's like, wait, y'all let
646
00:35:06.369 --> 00:35:10.690
one thing change your whole entire perspective. Social distancing was
647
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Stepping six feet of distance from people, not removing yourself entirely.
648
00:35:16.139 --> 00:35:17.880
So I think what happens is some folks get caught
649
00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:21.039
up in the wordplay and the verbiage now. They hear
650
00:35:21.099 --> 00:35:26.090
things and they're misinformed with what's being said.
651
00:35:26.829 --> 00:35:29.849
That's so true. Yes, I do. Yeah, well said.
652
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Yeah.
653
00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:35.050
Before we get out of here, though, my friend, with
654
00:35:35.070 --> 00:35:38.139
your plight and your wording, you travel all over the world.
655
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.639
Where is places right now you really want to put
656
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.360
your message out to? Is there one particular place? Maybe
657
00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:45.000
Canada again?
658
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:45.360
I don't know.
659
00:35:48.139 --> 00:35:51.860
Are you in Canada? I'm in Canada, Toronto, my friend.
660
00:35:52.179 --> 00:35:52.909
All right, all right.
661
00:35:52.969 --> 00:35:54.130
That's great. Where about in Canada?
662
00:35:54.929 --> 00:35:57.630
Toronto.
663
00:35:58.989 --> 00:36:05.269
So, look, I've been all over the world and had
664
00:36:05.409 --> 00:36:09.809
many wonderful experiences. What I'm excited about now is that
665
00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:14.730
at Radfest, there's a company there called Praxis. And they're
666
00:36:14.769 --> 00:36:18.309
an AI company. And they made, as a gift to me,
667
00:36:19.409 --> 00:36:22.320
a digital twin. Okay, I'm going to send it to you.
668
00:36:22.340 --> 00:36:26.880
It's a digital twin of me. Yes, yes. They uploaded
669
00:36:26.980 --> 00:36:29.400
all my books into it. They uploaded all my information,
670
00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:31.579
all my files. And it can talk to you just
671
00:36:31.619 --> 00:36:33.960
like I'm talking to you now. You can ask questions.
672
00:36:33.980 --> 00:36:37.550
In fact, it's so quick. And it looks like me, okay?
673
00:36:38.329 --> 00:36:43.489
And it has all the mannerisms and it will, in fact,
674
00:36:43.510 --> 00:36:45.769
you might be having fun having it on your show sometime,
675
00:36:46.179 --> 00:36:47.260
you know, and I can be on with it. I
676
00:36:47.300 --> 00:36:48.340
don't know. We can talk about that.
677
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:48.679
Why not?
678
00:36:48.739 --> 00:36:52.039
Let's do it. Let's do it all. Yeah. Well, it
679
00:36:52.059 --> 00:36:53.880
could be a big draw because people haven't seen this
680
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.440
like this before. And it's so advanced that it can
681
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.199
take most thoughts that we're putting together here and put
682
00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:06.650
it together so fast that, you know, and it speaks
683
00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:13.820
any language. language to it. We demoed it at RadFest
684
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:19.079
and Russian Girl, for example, came up and she said, oh, well,
685
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.670
I speak Russian. I said, yeah, you can speak to her.
686
00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:24.059
He speaks Russian. So she started speaking Russian to her.
687
00:37:24.070 --> 00:37:25.820
She got just a kick out of speaking Russian to her.
688
00:37:25.829 --> 00:37:30.070
She kept laughing the whole time. So it speaks like
689
00:37:30.130 --> 00:37:32.670
right now 10 different languages, but they're programmed at all
690
00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:35.769
times to speak any language across the world. So I'm
691
00:37:35.789 --> 00:37:39.420
saying all that to say that now I'm going to send,
692
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.469
he's called James Unlimited. I'm James and he's James Unlimited.
693
00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:45.349
So I'm going to send him around the world, right?
694
00:37:45.409 --> 00:37:49.130
To people and they can have this conversation with me,
695
00:37:49.170 --> 00:37:52.269
my twin, you know, ask questions that normally they might
696
00:37:52.309 --> 00:37:54.769
not in person ask me because they feel uncomfortable with
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00:37:54.789 --> 00:37:58.070
some people, you know, and they can take it in
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00:37:58.090 --> 00:38:00.630
their home and talk to me and talk to me
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00:38:00.670 --> 00:38:03.360
about my book or whatever and get answers they want
700
00:38:03.380 --> 00:38:07.469
to get. So this way I'm multiplying myself. to be
701
00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:09.909
able to get this message out. Now, I'll still travel
702
00:38:09.949 --> 00:38:13.360
in invitations to places to speak personally because it can't
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00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.920
replace any of us as individuals because even though it
704
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:20.699
has the information, it doesn't have the spirit, right? It
705
00:38:20.739 --> 00:38:24.619
doesn't have the soul. That's something for us to be
706
00:38:24.659 --> 00:38:27.840
so in touch with. So it's never going to replace me,
707
00:38:28.420 --> 00:38:30.780
but it's a great tool. And so when you ask
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00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.159
me what I'm going to do as far as travel
709
00:38:33.179 --> 00:38:34.360
or anything, I'm going to send it out.
710
00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:35.820
I love that.
711
00:38:36.630 --> 00:38:38.449
Yeah, and then it will get, yeah, it will cover
712
00:38:38.489 --> 00:38:41.659
more ground. That's what's important right now to me is
713
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.599
getting the message out. It's not about me, okay? And
714
00:38:44.619 --> 00:38:47.059
yet it is, but it's about, it includes me because
715
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:50.960
I'm a human being that needs this also. But it's
716
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.320
about the message for everybody to awaken the soul.
717
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:55.449
Well said.
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00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.969
And listen, you have an open invite. to bring James unlimited.
719
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Cause I love to have a conversation with James unlimited.
720
00:39:03.369 --> 00:39:04.989
Let's see what James limit is all about.
721
00:39:05.010 --> 00:39:07.179
You know, let's do it. Let's do it sometime. You know,
722
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:09.340
you know what I, what I'll do. Yeah. What I'll
723
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.980
do is I'll send you a, and if I don't
724
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.980
send it, send me a reminder. I'm having to do a,
725
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:16.780
I mean, it kind of overwhelmed at the rat fest
726
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.110
with a lot of people responding to them, but I
727
00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:22.809
want to send it. I sent it to you for
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00:39:22.829 --> 00:39:25.449
a trial basis. You'll get an email and you can
729
00:39:25.469 --> 00:39:27.699
go on there. I think what they set it up
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00:39:27.739 --> 00:39:29.300
for is like a three week period where you can
731
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:33.699
just try it, you know, and then, you know, see
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00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:35.780
for yourself. And then if you want to have me
733
00:39:35.860 --> 00:39:38.119
and James Unlimited on the show together, we can interact.
734
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:38.679
It might be fun.
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00:39:39.539 --> 00:39:41.440
I think that would be interactive. You know what I mean?
736
00:39:41.460 --> 00:39:43.599
I think like I'm up to so many things when
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00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.320
it comes to podcasting. So I think it'd be a
738
00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:48.840
cool experience of the new greatest technology of what we
739
00:39:48.860 --> 00:39:49.480
have going on.
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00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:50.519
You know what I mean?
741
00:39:51.019 --> 00:39:53.159
So... You get quite a bit of attendance. Yeah, you
742
00:39:53.179 --> 00:39:54.599
probably get quite a bit of attendance that say, hey,
743
00:39:54.619 --> 00:39:58.840
I got an AI, you know, version. I got a identical...
744
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.119
They call it a digital twin of James Stroh.
745
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.119
You're giving me some ideas. I'm like, wait, do I
746
00:40:03.139 --> 00:40:08.000
make a digital twin Mitchell, Borden, Leach, Rory host? Go host, maybe?
747
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.500
It's available for anybody who wants to... I think right now,
748
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.059
don't quote me on this, but I think there actually
749
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:15.820
will set people up.
750
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:16.079
It's in.
751
00:40:17.769 --> 00:40:21.849
Right now, they're a new company. And so they're in
752
00:40:21.869 --> 00:40:24.820
developmental stages. But I think they're charging around $ 5, 000 for
753
00:40:24.889 --> 00:40:29.159
it to create somebody's digital twin. But, oh, my God,
754
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.320
it's so worth it. I mean, it's such a great value,
755
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:34.039
you know. But anyway, so.
756
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.780
No, James, I appreciate you for doing this. And definitely you, yourself,
757
00:40:38.820 --> 00:40:41.070
your team, let's keep in touch, you know, set that
758
00:40:41.130 --> 00:40:42.610
up and stuff like that. But before we get out
759
00:40:42.630 --> 00:40:46.059
of here, how do we become 1% better in just–
760
00:40:46.949 --> 00:40:48.789
mindset in the world, things like that.
761
00:40:51.469 --> 00:40:54.170
You know, get in the conversation like we're getting in now.
762
00:40:54.809 --> 00:40:59.670
These are more than just conversations. You know, where we've
763
00:40:59.710 --> 00:41:01.550
gone together is a deep corner of the deep, I
764
00:41:01.590 --> 00:41:03.750
call it. And whether we realize it or not, it
765
00:41:03.809 --> 00:41:08.809
changes us. Probably more than 1%. Who knows, though? But
766
00:41:08.849 --> 00:41:11.530
there's changes that happen. And when you move to touch
767
00:41:11.570 --> 00:41:13.280
the soul, when you move to go deeper than you've
768
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:18.090
ever gone before with an individual or individuals, And that's
769
00:41:18.329 --> 00:41:22.420
one issue that is a problem in the world that
770
00:41:22.659 --> 00:41:26.000
most people like to stay in a superficial level of
771
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.519
communication because it's their comfort zone. But go past your
772
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.380
comfort zone. Say things that are in your heart. Begin
773
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.969
to express what do you really envision for yourself? Why
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00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:38.670
were you born in this world? Was it just to
775
00:41:38.730 --> 00:41:41.369
exist and collect things and then die? There's got to
776
00:41:41.409 --> 00:41:44.269
be more than that. Get in that conversation. Even if
777
00:41:44.289 --> 00:41:47.250
you've got a friend, bring it up. I remember in college,
778
00:41:47.630 --> 00:41:49.889
I was known for that with my friends. And although
779
00:41:49.909 --> 00:41:52.670
they'd make fun of me sometimes because of it, because
780
00:41:52.690 --> 00:41:55.739
they would maybe be stoned and I'd be just high
781
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.800
in my life. And they'd go, what are you on?
782
00:41:57.960 --> 00:41:59.940
And I said, I'm on the spirit of my body.
783
00:42:01.019 --> 00:42:02.960
And so I would express to them, and they loved
784
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.320
it overall. But don't be afraid to say what's in
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00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.179
your heart. This is so important. And this is where
786
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:11.730
the growth is, really. The growth happens when you allow
787
00:42:11.789 --> 00:42:15.480
that primal... that primal thoughts, those thoughts that you have
788
00:42:15.539 --> 00:42:17.679
suppressed in your body to come out.
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Man, seasoning.
790
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.699
Seasoning for the soul, ladies and gentlemen. James, plug all
791
00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:26.489
your information, plug your book, your website, all that good stuff.
792
00:42:26.530 --> 00:42:28.110
It's going to be in the show notes as well, everyone,
793
00:42:28.409 --> 00:42:29.489
but by all means, please.
794
00:42:31.530 --> 00:42:34.809
The Gospel of Longevity. I've written four books. This is
795
00:42:34.849 --> 00:42:37.250
the one that I wrote about my experience in this
796
00:42:37.289 --> 00:42:40.710
soul awakening. It's so important. I'm not just trying to
797
00:42:40.750 --> 00:42:44.039
sell books because I'm trying to Just get this information out.
798
00:42:44.139 --> 00:42:45.860
I think it's so vital for every human being. You
799
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:51.659
can get this on Amazon. It's a softcover or hardcover.
800
00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:55.320
I think they're about $ 15 on Amazon. And it will
801
00:42:55.340 --> 00:42:57.449
come in three or four days, depending where you're at,
802
00:42:58.219 --> 00:43:00.909
and read it. And then get in this discussion. Talk
803
00:43:00.949 --> 00:43:03.429
about this. Talk about it with other people. It's going
804
00:43:03.449 --> 00:43:06.650
to spread. And if people want to come also, we
805
00:43:06.829 --> 00:43:09.710
have a company here in town called People Unlimited. They
806
00:43:09.730 --> 00:43:12.530
can just Google People Unlimited. It's very simple. And we
807
00:43:12.590 --> 00:43:17.010
have events twice a week here. And no matter where
808
00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:19.050
you're at, you can come online and get in the
809
00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:22.309
same discussion live with a lot of people, usually 60,
810
00:43:22.309 --> 00:43:25.190
80 people who are in person once a week and
811
00:43:25.210 --> 00:43:29.429
then online once a week. So there's that variation. So
812
00:43:29.449 --> 00:43:32.309
I invite you, Rory, to even come in town. Come online.
813
00:43:32.349 --> 00:43:36.429
Come on town. Disgustia, visit me sometime. Come here on
814
00:43:36.449 --> 00:43:41.230
the event. Do a podcast from here maybe, whatever you feel. Yeah, definitely.
815
00:43:41.530 --> 00:43:44.019
But anyway, I'd like to keep up the communication, and
816
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:44.880
thank you for having me on.
817
00:43:45.579 --> 00:43:47.800
Hey, I appreciate you too, and definitely I'll be, like
818
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.269
I said, in communication with yourself, your team, and let's
819
00:43:50.289 --> 00:43:51.309
set something up, definitely.