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The fastest way to ruin your peace before Week 1 is to write down your NFL season predictions in ink, so that’s exactly what we do. We bring back our annual record-prediction game, complete with our “within one game” scoring and the chaos button: the steal, where you can challenge the other side’s win total and try to grab extra points.
We go division by division and force real choices. The NFC North turns into a tight fight between Lions confidence, Bears hope, Packers skepticism, and a Vikings slide. The AFC North gets spicy with a Browns collapse, a Bengals “revenge tour” vibe, and a real disagreement about what the Ravens look like with coaching changes and a new approach to Lamar. The South divisions are all about schedule math, roster turnover, and resisting the yearly Falcons “Madden roster” trap, while the AFC South hinges on one question: can Houston’s offense and CJ Stroud shake off the bad taste and win ugly when it matters?
Then the Easts arrive and the temperature rises. We talk Eagles control of the NFC East, argue about what a “successful” Giants season even is, and fight through Cowboys expectations. The AFC East turns into pure hate and strategy as we land on Bills and Patriots win totals, debate how many wins the Jets can accidentally steal, and ask how low Miami can go after major departures. We close with the West divisions, where the 49ers health roulette, Rams strength, and Seahawks ceiling set up a real NFC arms race, then we finish with award picks: MVP, OPOY, DPOY, rookies, Coach of the Year, and first coach fired.
If you love NFL record predictions, win totals, strength of schedule arguments, and takes you can quote back at us in December, hit play, subscribe, and leave a review. Which pick are we going to regret first?
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It's missing the point!
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The NFL season is right around the corner.
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Thank God.
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I mean, honestly, these summer days are really starting to drag without a uh 11 random men that I've never met before deciding my mood on a week-to-week basis.
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I I'm really listless and lost until that happens.
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We're doing our favorite thing, our downright favorite thing that we do here on the show.
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We're teaming up and we're gonna make some predictions.
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We've done it every year since we started the podcast, but obviously we have some new faces, new voices, so we've we've jumbled up the teams.
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We're starting fresh.
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Mike will probably talk a lot about his record in this game because he's only ever lost it once, but it's a different time now.
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It's a different time to be alive.
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Myself and Matt Wilcox are going to predict the records of the NFC.
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Mike and Zach are gonna predict the records of the AFC, and we're gonna name who we think the MVP is gonna be offensive player of the year, defensive player of the year, offensive rookie, defensive rookie, coach of the year, first coach fired, are all eligible to score us a point.
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The rules are the same.
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We've tweaked and and twaddled them over the years, but uh it's fairly simple.
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If you get within a game, if your if your prediction gets within a game, if you say the Lions are gonna be 10-7, and they're 11-6, you get the point.
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If they win 12 games, you don't get the point.
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You get the point.
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See what I did there?
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This is missing the point.
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That's a play on words.
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I don't know if we've checked in about that in a while.
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It's about sports.
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But we also make takes.
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Sometimes we miss the point.
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Just like in sports.
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Sometimes you miss the point, just like in this game, sometimes you miss the point.
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But the goal will be to not miss as many points as the team you're trying to beat.
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Everybody with me?
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Everybody caught up on the prediction game rules?
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It's not fucking rocket science, Zach looking at you.
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Uh does do the points matter here?
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Like, what do we get out of this?
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Yes, everything matters.
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What do you mean?
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What do you get out of this?
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Don't bring down the whole house of cards, Zach.
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You get the satisfaction of victory over your fellow man.
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I pick a trophy.
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Uh, yeah, we'll we'll we'll see if we can put something together.
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All right, moving right along.
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I think what we'll do is we'll go north, south, east, and west.
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Uh, since I'm kind of starting the show here, I'm gonna go first.
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Uh the NFC North.
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Let's talk about them.
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Why the hell not?
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We'll do the AFC North right after.
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Uh, you guys can obviously weigh in on what you think our our decided predictions um end up as.
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Yeah, we'll we'll we'll we'll talk we'll build in the uh the four predictions and you guys can react to like any big swings just so we can get you on record for the other the other conference.
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Um also sorry to do your job here, but just sorry, but I'm not I'm not I'm supposed to say that.
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Uh remind me about the steal.
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Oh, right, the steal.
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So if you want to play a steal, you don't have to necessarily, but if you really think another team has gotten their prediction way wrong, you can make a counter prediction for them.
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So basically, you get to predict one NFC team's record uh if you want.
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Um, both of our guesses will still be in play, um, but you have a chance to get two points instead of one by stealing.
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Um we usually do it just for the funsies.
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But uh yeah, it'll jump out at you as it as it comes.
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You'll be like, whoa, I think they're way off on that one.
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Let's try to let's try to get it.
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Even if it's just a one-game difference to see if you can sort of price as right the point.
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Um, it's a good idea.
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It's a good idea to try to win.
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I have has anyone ever successfully stolen one mic over the years?
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Have you didn't we last year?
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No, I think we try I think we had a really, really egregiously wrong steal last year.
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But anyway, it doesn't matter.
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Um moving right along.
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NFC North.
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No, I think no, I think we did see it.
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The Vikings, remember?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay, cool.
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Fun.
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Um, all right, NFC North.
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Matt, let's talk about the division that contains my beloved, well, toxic relationship I have with the Chicago Bears.
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Um, I think there's gonna be a lot of parody in this division, so it's gonna be a little difficult to choose.
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All four teams have been decent over the last three seasons.
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I think the Vikings are going to hell in a handbasket, and I think that they're gonna be last.
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Do I where what range would you say you put the Vikings in?
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If we're in agreement on the fact that they're gonna be the worst team in the NFC North, what range would you put them in?
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And let's try and see if we can civilly decide a decent record to start this thing off.
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I don't so I I I think they have the potential to get some easy wins because I think they have a pretty easy schedule coming up, but yeah, I don't see them being very good.
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I just it just you know I I don't like JJ McCarthy.
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I think he's got a stupid face.
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Um, they weren't very good last year, and I just don't see it picking up much this year.
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So I I put them in in an under 500 category for sure.
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All right.
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I I know you you probably were leaning for just because I saw your predictions before this, uh, for seven wins, but I do think they have a good coach.
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I do think they have a top three wide receiver.
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I'm willing to go five under 500, but I think we should just to cover ourselves, I think we should go eight and nine.
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That sounds fair.
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I'll do that.
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All right.
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Love that.
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Am I gonna be writing this down as we go?
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Yeah, everybody keep track of your own shit.
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All right.
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I'm gonna keep track of the NFC over here and where we end up.
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And you guys usually I just I just send it to you after.
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I I was planning on doing that again this year.
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You're gonna do both?
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You're gonna do both for us?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, you're such a nice guy.
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Like, couldn't be me.
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Could not be me.
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This is how he always this is how he always wins, you know.
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Who did you just first he wins our hearts?
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Um, we're we went eight and nine for the Minnesota Vikings.
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Yeah, okay.
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So did you take a notes?
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Can I also get a coffee or wow?
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He's doing a nice thing and you gotta be a dick about it.
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I'm sorry, I can't always just insane.
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I have a coffee actually next tier up, it's gonna be a dog fight at the top, I think, for for the three potential, I think, double-digit win teams, maybe not necessarily all three, but I'd like to put the Green Bay Packers next in third place in the NFC North, but I my my goggles be on.
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I don't know.
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I agree with you completely.
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I think after the the the collapse last year, they went from what the best team in the NFL to dying in front of the Bears in the funniest way I've ever seen.
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Um, I I still think they're gonna be a very competitive team.
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I do think their quarterbacks are better than you give them credit for, but I definitely have them as number three in the division.
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I think he's not that good.
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Um, I think that they lost Romeo Dobbs, they lost Ontavian Wicks, they lost some depth in the offensive line.
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Um I think Matthew Golden looked like a whiff to me last year.
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I don't know.
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Like there was a lot of talk about that guy, and then he caught like three balls.
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Um he caught less balls than you do on a Saturday night, and I just don't think that it's necessarily uh it's necessarily too one step too far to call him a bust already.
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Um, they have the third hardest schedule.
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I think they'll have a winning record, but I think it'll be barely it.
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Can we agree on nine and eight?
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Would that be fair?
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Because that covers us on eight wins, it covers us on ten wins.
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I think what the I'll you want to go eight and nine again, and we'll just they win the head to head because we can't put them any worse than that.
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I kind of see them as like a 10-win team, but I agree with I'll I'll go with you again just because I haven't played this game before.
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Mike scares me to death.
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I'm just gonna lean on your expertise in this in this category.
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Don't do something like that.
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So it's like I don't know.
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I'm uh my ass is the same.
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You've learned from the best.
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Um all right.
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Do not do not boost Mike's ego, please.
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I know.
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Honestly, in this game you can't.
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That's it's already sky high.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's because he plays the game, not the not the he doesn't play with his heart, you know.
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Um, anyway, uh next up, I I mean, I if I'm just being as honest as I can, I I don't really want to predict the Bears are gonna win the division.
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I think that 10 and 7 is uh already like a sky high, very uh pie in the sky prediction for me to make.
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I that's what I want to go with.
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I I predicted nine wins for them last year as an absolute ceiling.
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They won 11 games.
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That was fucking great.
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Um, you know, we lost a little bit of we're uh we're decidedly the number one regression candidate across the board.
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Like every single person has this as the number one regression candidate in the league, not just in the NFC.
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Um I believe in Caleb and Ben.
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I I think another year of development for the young guys like Luther Burden and Colston Loveland is great.
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I think it's gonna be really hard to defend offense again.
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Um we have the hardest schedule in the league on paper right now.
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It's number one most difficult.
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So I think 10 wins would be 10 hardfought wins.
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Um we play six games against the NFC West.
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That's tough.
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We got rid of DJ Moore, that's tough.
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Uh yeah, we like a lot of the draft picks, but we still have issues in the trenches.
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I say this every year about the Bears.
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We still have issues in the trenches.
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Um, I don't think we're gonna completely collapse, like a lot of people are predicting, but uh losing one more game than we did last year with the hardest schedule, but you know, potentially making the playoffs again and just seeing what happens when we get in there, I'd be pretty happy with.
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I'm I'm okay with 10 and 7, and I don't really want to like put some bad juju on the Bears by predicting that they're gonna win this division.
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Um you you're well you're welcome to talk me out of it.
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No, I have them at 11 and 6.
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I just I I think that the the I think you're right.
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I understand I understand the predictions that that they're gonna have a regression, but I think they get to see my uh Minnesota twice.
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They're gonna dogfight with the Packers.
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I think they're gonna get a lot of division wins here, and I think that Detroit going to Chicago never really goes well for Detroit.
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I don't really care about how talented their running core is.
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Um, I have met 11 and 6, and I I think I might be underestimating them.
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I think they love the fact that their quarterback, his weird fingernails get a bad reputation.
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I think he's got a lot of proof going into this year.
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I love them as an underdog.
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I love the Bears as a as a as a uh uh forgotten team.
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Nobody thought they were gonna do that last year.
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There what was their over-under?
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Seven and a half wins.
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I like the bears.
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I have been 11 and 6.
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And I know, I know you have this this relationship with them where you can't get your hopes up because they're gonna stomp your soul out again.
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But I just think that I think they're gonna have a very, very strong year.
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I just want everyone to have fun.
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Okay.
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I just want I just wanna I just want everyone to go out there and have a good time.
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I don't, I don't, I'm not asking for much here.
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Uh fine.
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We it we'll go with 11 wins.
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Uh that's you predicting that.
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So just tell this, tell the gods of the National Football League that I had nothing to do with that and uh ask for forgiveness.
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That's fine.
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We would listen, man.
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I have faith in this team.
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When your when your heterosexual life partner bleeds every single year and cries blood for this team, I love this team.
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I love watching them, and I think they've got a lot of talent.
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And the teams I root for win.
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So this is good.
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This is a good thing.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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But he should have teamed it too.
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I had uh I had the Lions winning the division um at 11 and 6.
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I they can still win the division at 11 and 6, probably, even if they're you know, we'll see how the head-to-head goes.
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But they they're lined up to bounce back.
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I think everybody has that them sort of penciled in to do that.
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Um, they have a really easy schedule, it turns out.
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Um, Goff isn't the second coming of Tom Brady by any stretch of the imagination, but he has elite weapons.
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Um, Aiden Hutchinson, you know, gives the defense something they can build around.
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Yeah, they lost Montgomery, and that two-headed snake at running back is is no more.
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But I mean, if we're really being honest, like Gibbs was the focal point of that.
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He was the he was the game changer.
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Um Taylor Decker's gone, Graham Glasgow's gone, uh, DJ Reeder, they've lost some guys.
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Um, but Brian Branch is coming back, Kirby Joseph.
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I will see.
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Um, I don't think that they're like have as much depth as they maybe did two years ago, but I think the way that that offense still operates, despite losing Ben Johnson, I still think that they they have a really talented offense, and I think that they can do a lot.
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And that schedule's so fucking easy.
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Like, if you actually go, which we we do resort to sometimes on this show, if we really can't agree, and you go through every single game, you can find, I think, 11 wins.
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Me and Mike had to do it on almost every single team last year, um, because we just couldn't agree, but we're agreeing here, so this is great.
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It's really easy to find 11 wins.
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I I could even be talked into 12, to be honest, but like, you know, they're always gonna lose a weird one or two.
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Um, they're gonna flame out in the playoffs, is my prediction, because it's the Detroit Lions, and like that's just written into their their uh DNA, into the into the code of what makes them them.
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But yeah, I could see them being an 11-win team.
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That 11-win team that nobody believes is gonna go very far in the playoffs, but you know, they sort of quietly get on with it and and win 11-12 games all season.
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Um, you could talk me out of it if you will.
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Oh, I went bold actually.
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I have them at 14 and 3.
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I looked over the schedule.
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I just think they're gonna I know, but here's the thing.
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I think Aiden Hutchinson is poised to have a potential uh defensive player of the year season.
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I think their front uh defensive line is is uh devastating.
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And I think they play a couple of teams, like the Packers and the Lions, who had the Packers and the Vikings, who have really bad defensive lines.
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So that's uh it's just a it's a perfect mix for them.
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They're gonna play teams with the worst offensive lines this year.
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That's their benefit.
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And why the fuck do they have such an easy schedule?
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It's bullshit that the Bears have to have to take that out their their uh uh uh stretch season and then pay for it in the long end.
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And then the Lions get this this easy fluff schedule, but I think they're gonna run wild with it.
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I know, but we drove industry out of Detroit, you know, and now everybody that used to work there works in Japan.
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So it's only fair.
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I think I uh let's just go through the season really fast and see if we can find 14 wins.
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I don't think we're gonna be able to, but I'll be really liberal with it.
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I'll be I'll be AOC about it.
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I'll be so liberal.
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I'll be Birdie fucking Sanders, and we'll see if we can do it, all right?
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Um, here's me Karl Marxing their season.
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Ready?
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Saints, that's a dub.
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Bills, that's an L.
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Okay.
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They're gonna lose to the Bills.
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It's if it's a it's a prime time game.
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We gotta give them, we gotta give them the all right, whatever.
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I'm not doing that.
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You're slowing me down.
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Okay.
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Jets, that's a dub.
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Panthers, that's a dub.
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Cardinals, that's a dub.
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This is going well for them so far.
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Let's say they split with the Packers, so let's give them one here.
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Fine.
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I'll I think they can sweep the Vikings, so let's give them one here.
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That's six.
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Dolphins, everyone's beating the Dolphins next year.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about when you get over to the AFC side.
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That's seven.
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Pats, I'm gonna give them an L.
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That's that's a defending Super Bowl participant.
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Um that's uh still only seven wins.
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Bucks, yeah.
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Let's say they beat the Bucs.
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Yep.
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I'd say let's split with the Bears, that's nine.
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They beat the biggest.
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Titans, that's eleven.
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Vikings, we say they swept, so that's 12.
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Giants.
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Giants, that's a yep.
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The loss that well, we found 13 wins because then with the splits now with the Bears and the Packers to finish out the season.
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So 13.
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I think they can give them.
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I'm fine.
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I'm fine with 13.
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I'll take 13.
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Let's do it.
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All right, very cool.
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Um, that's the NFC North, done and dusted.
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Uh, now to the AFC North.
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Gentlemen, the floor is yours.
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All right, Zach, let you go first.
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You want me to go first?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You're the you're you're the rookie.
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So cocky.
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Uh I think the easy one is the Cleveland Browns, just the absolute I don't know if you want to call them the armpit or the asshole of the NFL.
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Uh, I have them down for two wins.
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Uh yep.
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Two wins.
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Uh one of those coming against the Jets in week five, and then the other one is going to be uh week 12 coming out of a bye home against uh the Raiders.
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Otherwise, uh yeah, I mean, you get rid of Miles Garrett, and who knows how Sanders is gonna be this season, too.
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So I could be completely wrong about Sanders and and the team as a whole.
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He didn't look great the preseason so far.
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I'll say I'll tell you that.
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The whole quarterback situation looks just as messy there as it has.
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Right.
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So I mean, I I don't think they took any steps forward in the offseason.
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So just I went game by game with them and I got two wins out of it.
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Yikes.
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Okay, so I do agree with you on a broad level here.
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Um, I had them at uh five and twelve because they do always just seem to figure out how to win a couple in November for no fucking reason.
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Uh but I I do think four gives us the ability to have three and five.
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Yep, I like that.
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So I'll take four and thirteen.
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Yeah.
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I don't I mean I'm gonna chip.
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I will say if they only win two games, I'm gonna be pretty pissed about this one.
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Yeah, you should be.
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Yeah, but I'll I can accept four.
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That's fine.
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Love that.
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All right, what do you got for the what do you got for the the Ravens?
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Uh Ravens, I feel like kind of have a hiccup year.
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I mean, not that they didn't last year, but you know, head coaching change, a lot of question marks about Lamar as well.
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I actually have them down for six and eleven.
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Um start off with two wins against the the Colts and the and the Saints.
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Uh then they have to take the trip down to Brazil.
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Uh I think Lamar, maybe some other people get really distracted by the big booty Brazilians or something.
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Cowboys, like I think they'll take care of business down there.
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Um trying to see any other like big losses.
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I mean, gets Atlanta and I have them down as a loss.
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Uh at Buffalo, a loss.
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Home against Jacksonville, I have a loss.
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Home against the Chargers too as well.
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I have as a loss.
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Uh yeah, I have like a four-game, actually a five-game losing streak right before they hit their buy, which then in turn keeps just sucking.
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So uh yeah, I have them down for uh six wins.
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Okay.
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So nobody on this show uh believes in uh Lamar Jackson less than I do.
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Uh so you don't need to really sell me on this.
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Uh they lost Harbaugh.
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They didn't.
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Wait, hold on a second.
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Can I ask you something, Mike?
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Is that is that true?
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Uh I thought your the entirety of your take around Lamar Jackson is that he's great in the regular season, and that's what we're talking about here.
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And he just flames out in the playoffs.
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Yeah, no, but that's belief in him as a player.
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That like he'll he'll prop up a team for a little while and then he'll flame out because that's what he does.
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So I think while being the the only period of the season we're discussing right now.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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But I'm just I'm I'm just setting the foundation for what's to come.
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Just being clear, because I'm just you just said this about him a lot, and it just seems like you're now expanding the takeout to say that he sucks in general, which would be great going into the season.
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I would love to just watch that get absolutely decimated for the entirety of the season.
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That would be great.
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I think that's what you're doing.
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He's yeah, he's just a you know, it's just a uh a paper tiger.
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However, I I don't see six wins.
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I had them at 10 and 7.
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I thought that they made some good additions uh in the offseason.
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I I think you know, Trey Hendrickson, Calais Campbell, uh they drafted Zion Young, who I wanted.
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Um I know Clayus Campbell's always been great, but he's also like a hundred years old.
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Yeah, but okay.
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What do I need to do to get you to agree to to nine?
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How do I get you in this car today?
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Uh the way you get the way you get me the nine is flip it upside down.
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No, I'm not doing it now.
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That's how you do it.
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Okay.
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Um okay.
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DK, can you pull up the schedule for me?
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Seeing angel of the house.
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I mean, I yeah, I have it here too, but um week one.
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Colts.
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I have that as a win.
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Win, yeah.
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Two week Saints.
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Win.
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Three in Brazil distraction distracted by the big booty uh Brazilians.
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Yep.
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That's a loss.
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Against who?
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Dallas.
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You're saying that that the Baltimore Ravens are more likely to get distracted by big booty Brazilians than Dag Prescott and the fucking Dallas Cowboys?
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I I think we live in a world where the the Ravens are three and oh that everyone's saying like this is the rebound year for the for the Ravens to go to the Super Bowl.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So we can the three and we can contest that one, I guess.
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That's sure.
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Um next week is home against the Titans.
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When?
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Fuck.
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In Atlanta the week after.
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When?
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I had a loss.
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Okay.
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Uh at uh Cleveland.
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Loss.
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So you think they won't be they always do.
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They always fucking split with Cleveland.
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They always do.
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Uh I had them losing against Cincinnati the week after.
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Loss.
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Five and two.
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Losing at Buffalo.
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Yep, five and three.
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Losing at home against Jacksonville.
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That's a Thursday night game, too.
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Yeah, I'll take that time and four.
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Uh then they play Monday night against uh Chargers at home.
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When Chargers and Herbert.
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Uh at Carolina.
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When uh at Houston.
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When uh then they have a bye, and then they are home against Tampa.
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When Pittsburgh Home Against Living.
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When at Cincinnati, Thursday night.
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Uh there is one of them.
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So and then finally home against uh Pittsburgh.
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I had that as a win.
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Yeah, so that's so that that's I I just have eleven right there.
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So I'm willing to I don't I'm willing to concede a few of those.
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But I'm not willing to concede fucking five of them.
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So how about eight?
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Okay, so do you think that it's more likely that they only win seven games or that they win ten games?
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Seven.
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Fine.
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This sucks.
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Eight.
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All right, put it for the Ravens down for eight then.
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Eight and nine.
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That's blows.
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Okay.
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Bengals, I'm gonna go first.
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I think this is a I think this is a rebound year, which actually is gonna contradict what I'm gonna say later in the show.
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Um I think uh healthy Joe Burrow.
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I think he's gonna stay healthy.
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I think they they did a lot over the uh offseason to add to their defense, which was the fucking worst I've ever seen the last couple of years.
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Um I have them at 11 and 6.
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I think this is I I think this is uh the Bengals revenge tour.
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I had him at 10 and 7, so I will take your 11 and 6 in.
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Yeah.
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Perfect.
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Love that.
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Love that for us.
00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:02.079
And me too.
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Okay, uh, Steelers.
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This is interesting.
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Uh I'm just gonna go out and say this.
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I fucking hate Aaron Rodgers.
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I think he's a little coward.
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I think he's a bitch for going on national television on the Pat McAfee show and and saying that they didn't spend any time talking about Diana Rossini and Mike Rabel, and they call fucking Dr.
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Fauci a coward when that network has made it a point to not cover the fact that he likes people of the same gender.
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Okay, so let's let's just get out of there.
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Fuck him.
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.079
That being said, I had them at seven and ten.
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I have them at five and twelve.
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Can we split the difference?
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Go six.
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Do you think it's more likely that they only win four games or that they could win eight?
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Uh four.
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Okay, no, we're not doing that again.
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.519
So we'll we'll I I I already I already conceded one for you.
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.359
Uh I conceded one for you.
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Yeah, but this is my show.
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.519
Uh we'll do seven and ten.
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Sure.
00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.240
Because that that's still six and eleven.
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:02.079
You really think five and twelve?
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:04.240
I went through every game, yeah.
00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:08.079
All right, six and eleven is our final.
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:09.680
Excellent.
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Thoughts on that, guys?
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How is Mike the the down tried heal and the champion at the same time?
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:22.240
This is a he's a man he wears a lot of hats.
00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:27.519
I think the one um the one kind of quibble I had was the the Ravens.
00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:40.079
I do there's such an unknown that it's it's it's tough to be because like what they've been calling for, in my opinion, in Baltimore is a little bit of a culture change as far as the personnel they have.
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.759
They should really be focusing a little bit more on the offensive side of the ball.
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:49.519
Um, I think the shakeup at coach might actually help them, unlike Pittsburgh, which I think you have it right.
00:24:49.599 --> 00:25:05.119
I I mean I know Mike McCarthy hasn't had a ton of losing seasons, but I, you know, putting him and Aaron Rodgers together at this point in Rodgers' career, he's obviously got severe CTE, so I I think it's finally time to put that team out of its misery and just have them really actually start fresh.
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:09.119
Um they're never gonna win shit with like a million-year-old Aaron Rodgers.
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It's just it's not gonna happen.
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.640
But I do think um, I like I think I'm just interested, I guess.
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:21.119
I don't I know it's hard to make a prediction, but I'm interested in the Baltimore Ravens this year because they did take the Bears offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle.
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:26.079
He took the job because he can now call plays in Baltimore, which he's obviously not doing under Ben Johnson.
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.759
But I think uh what's his name?
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:28.720
Jesse Minter.
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:33.119
I I think he's a real like pre-snap disguise, you know, overload personnel type guy.
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.200
I think that's really gonna benefit Lamar Jackson.
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:40.000
I think calling plays, the the guy calling plays, having learned under Ben Johnson.
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:47.440
Obviously, I'm a little biased, but having learned under Ben Johnson and giving him these weapons and like letting him cook, I think is gonna be really interesting to watch.
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:51.599
Um, I think he's a really good offensive mind, um, Declan Doyle.
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:53.279
So I, you know, I was sad to lose him.
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.200
I think that's a always a good indicator.
00:25:55.359 --> 00:26:03.200
Like if you get a new coach or a new player, go and look at what the fan base's reaction is they just lost him, and you'll see like what you have on your hands, I think.
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.519
And we're all really disappointed to lose Declan Doyle.
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:12.160
Despite the fact that he wasn't calling plays for us, I think he was really um a big part of Caleb Williams' development last year.
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:17.839
Um, and uh I think he really helped him become the quarterback he was by the end of the season.
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:28.559
I Lamar Jackson's never had a guy really develop his game, it's all been raw talent combined with, you know, let's play the kind of football that Harbaugh plays, right?
00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:30.720
And and it's it's tested and it's proven.
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:32.079
So he can't really say anything.
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:43.759
I think we're gonna see a team finally built completely around Lamar and like letting him cook, which is just regardless of whether it works or not, whether Mike's right, I really want to see it.
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:49.039
You know, I really want to see like a fully off the leash Lamar Jackson, at least in the regular season, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.480
Um, I I hope.
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:52.720
So the one kind of quibble I had was the Ravens.
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.319
I think you guys are a little bit more down on them than you should be.
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.440
Um otherwise, yeah, I overall sort of agree.
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.359
Like, I really uh they need to finally put that the Steelers experiment out of its misery.
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:10.400
Like the only reason, the only thing keeping them above 500 every year was the fact that that um Mike Tomlin refused to have a losing season.
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.319
He was just never ever gonna do it, I guess.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:13.920
Uh it's just not whatever.
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.000
But the worst place you can be in the in the National Football League is in the middle.
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:24.319
Um, you either want to be bad enough where you can make a franchise-changing draft pick in the following year.
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:30.480
Um, if you could, you know, go get a Caleb Williams, go get a Drake May, like whatever it is, or you want to be good enough to be contending.
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:35.359
When you're right in the middle at that, like just above 500 mark, it's it's it's torturous.
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:36.000
It really is.
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:37.599
You never really want to defeat that team.
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:39.119
Yeah, it absolutely is purgatory.
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:43.200
You either need to start over or you need to make a legitimate run.
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:55.440
And I don't think that the Steelers have enough pieces to make a legitimate run, which sad to say, I mean, my wife loves them, but um I think that about three to four seasons ago, they stopped being the Steelers that people are afraid to go play.
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:58.160
Um, and there's a little bit of a weakness now about them.
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:03.920
There's sort of um they've lost the aura of being like a terrifying franchise to play year in, year out.
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.920
This is the worst I've ever seen them, to be honest.
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:12.720
Like I know they've had down years, but like this is the worst I've ever seen them in like an overall holistic sort of state.
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:14.559
So they really go need to go.
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:20.640
You know, they could have done something if they just had a slightly above average quarterback during the era of the last five to seven years.
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.680
Like they could have really made a run with that like highest paid defense.
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:25.440
That defense was scary as hell.
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:35.599
If they could have kept them off the field for at least a few more minutes at a time, I really think they could have made a legitimate run, but they just never had the guy at quarterback ever to do that.
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.720
Um, Aaron Rodgers was obviously well past his prime.
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.480
Uh yeah, I mean, I I have to agree with your assessment of the rest of the teams.
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:45.039
It was just the Ravens, I think, that put me off a little bit.
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:47.759
Also, like exclamation point, fuck Aaron Rodgers.
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:48.960
Yeah, that guy sucks.
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:50.000
Yeah, worse.
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.759
Yeah, yeah, he's a fucking loser.
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.400
Dave and I actually bonded over that back in back in college.
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.640
It was just our our hate for Aaron Rodgers.
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.480
I mean, if you're still talking about Fauci, bro, like just shut the fuck up.
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:01.759
Shut the fuck up.
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:02.559
Like, come on.
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.079
You're talking about Fauci dogs?
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.160
Just take an actual picture with your wife, bro.
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:06.880
I know.
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:07.359
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:08.319
She lives in a different town.
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:08.880
You wouldn't know her.
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:09.519
You guys wouldn't know her.
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:11.200
Go to a different school.
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.240
Just the wildest thing that he's like, I got married in the off season.
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:17.759
Everyone's just like, oh, okay.
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:18.400
Yeah, sure.
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:20.480
It's like the marriage of the real girl.
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.200
You fumble Olivia Munn, you know, you're never gonna recover from that.
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:28.400
That's just it's not the girl.
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:31.440
What's his wife's name?
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.759
She looks like every girl you went to high school with, like in their 30s.
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:35.039
It's just not it's not ideal for me.
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:36.160
It's you've seen a picture.
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.759
Well is he married to the famous one, the Woodley girl?
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.720
No, no, no, no, no one knows that this girl's even real.
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:43.680
That's the whole thing.
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.839
Those are all they're they were all signed by the by the same talent agency as well.
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.119
So there's no sketchy there.
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:54.400
Well, Harvey Wiseman actually did okay.
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.039
Um, moving on to the NFC South.
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.279
Uh there's a little bit of a point of contention here.
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.839
The Saints have an over-under of seven and a half.
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.599
You have them at three wins.
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.440
So you have them at three wins.
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.519
Uh, let's start with them, I guess.
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:16.559
Um, my assessment of the Saints, and I guess you can tell me why I'm completely wrong here, is that they actually are a little bit of a sleeper.
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:19.680
They're maybe a little bit more competitive than people expect.
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.440
Um, they have the second easiest schedule.
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.359
I'm obviously weighing strength of schedule pretty hard.
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:24.720
That's becoming a theme.
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.480
Um, I think that Tyler Show, is it Show?
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:29.359
Show?
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:30.319
Show.
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:31.039
Show.
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.119
Um, gets a second year to develop.
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.160
Um, Travis Etienne I think needed to change the scenery.
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.519
That's good for that, good for them.
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.240
Uh, that guy Jordan Tyson's good.
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:44.000
Their defense was ninth last year, and they've added a bunch of guys.
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:54.160
Caden Ellis, um, Chris Olave, and Tyson uh both have injury histories, so I don't know if they're gonna really like do much.
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:59.279
So even not factoring them in, I can count, I can count higher than three on wins.
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.400
I really think so.
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:05.519
I I think they won six last year, and I think they're better than they were last year.
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:11.119
So could we do six so that we're covered on seven, but we're also covered on five?
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.640
Is that I mean they have an easy schedule, is the thing, and we can go through the schedule if you want.
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:15.599
It's a great way to think about it.
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:21.039
Given the champion, I've been thinking uh, you know, I was looking at my ratings, and I don't know how I came up with the three.
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.440
I think I was just being harsh on them because I think the quarterback sucks.
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.440
I think the coach is a fraud, and I I just hate New Orleans as a place in general.
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:32.000
But thinking about Mike's common, what is what is more likely?
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.559
This or where were you when the levees broke?
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:36.400
Can you account for your whereabouts?
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.640
Uh, I was in a place where that shit doesn't happen.
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.079
So sorry, sorry about that.
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:43.279
Sorry, New Orleans.
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.559
Uh no, I'll agree with you.
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:45.359
I'll I'll go with six.
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:46.640
I don't know why it was so harsh on them.
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.079
I just think their quarterback is garbage.
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.599
I just you have to score points.
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.079
And Travis Hitney is not going to carry the team.
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.680
And I think Chase Young's overrated.
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:58.000
I think Kool-Aid McKinsey is uh overrated, and I just don't buy it.
00:31:58.720 --> 00:31:59.920
All right, six it is.
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.039
I'll go with six.
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:01.680
Okay.
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.319
Um I you fucking hate New Orleans.
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:04.559
All right.
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:06.160
Oh, yeah, I don't like New Orleans.
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.640
Um the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:20.799
I'm a little suspicious of this team with the early kind of drama with Baker already sort of being like they're the I I would say I would give them the most watchable award for last season.
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.400
Like I really enjoyed watching them.
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.160
Uh like they were the best programming on TV week to week.
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:27.599
Um, the games were really fun.
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:29.200
Baker was really gritty.
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:34.880
He was grinding it out until the sort of wheels came off health-wise at the end of the season.
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.039
Um, they went eight and nine last year.
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.559
It looked for a good stretch, like they were gonna be a double-digit win team.
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:41.200
Yep.
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.920
Finishing eight and nine, but then combined with like a little bit of off-season drama.
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:47.839
I'm I'm comfortable fading them.
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:49.839
I mean, Mike Evans is in San Francisco now.
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:56.319
He was a big part of the reason they were A, fun to watch, and B, were able to get down the field in a pinch.
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.480
Um, Levante David retired.
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:03.359
Uh, they've lost Rashad White, Jamel Dean, Logan Hall, Hassan Reddick, they're all gone.
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.519
Um, yes, Ashawn Robertson and Alex Anzoloni are there.
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.519
They got a first-round pass rusher.
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:10.240
Cool.
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:15.920
I don't think that they replaced what walked out the door, and what walked out the door got them to eight and nine last year.
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.160
So I I don't know.
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.880
Seven and ten feels out on a push.
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.519
I I'm I'm I want to give him seven wins.
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:24.400
What do you think?
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.480
I think I I have him at nine and eight, and I think the other the only thing you didn't hit for me is that Baker gets hurt, man.
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.359
And if he does get hurt, this team is in deep, deep shit.
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:33.839
Yeah.
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:39.119
Um I guess by seven wins if he if he doesn't stay really consistently healthy.
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:40.559
It's probably nine wins if he does.
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.319
So, do you want to just call it eight wins?
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:43.200
Let's call it eight.
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:43.839
We're doing so well.
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:45.759
Yeah, we're covered on both.
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.960
I mean, until the season actually starts, and it's like, ah, the house is on.
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:50.559
Why were you thinking?
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:52.640
Um, great, awesome, love it.
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:53.759
Let's give him eight wins.
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:54.799
Uh again.
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:59.519
Um, it's gonna look different probably than last season's eight wins, but eight wins nonetheless.
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:00.799
I'm I'm cool with that.
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.599
Um, okay, so we did the Saints.
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:10.480
The two the two teams I want to talk about the least uh in the entire NFL, so let's just speed right through this, these next two.
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:19.840
Um I had both the Panthers and the Falcons in the sort of eight to nine win range, and I think maybe I was being really fair to them.
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:20.800
I don't know.
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:25.199
Um Stefansky, I think, raises the four at the floor of the Falcons.
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.280
Bijan's still really good.
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.639
He can run that offense that he likes to run through Bijan.
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.000
That's a real thing.
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:38.559
Penix, I I I to I don't but I don't know.
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:45.679
I I I think they're gonna win the least fucking fun team to watch or or their thereabouts this year.
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.079
Um Darnell Mooney being a centerpiece of your offense is not great.
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.119
Take it from me.
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.480
Um he this this they've got a pretty favorable schedule.
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.599
Again, that's the only sort of reason I'm I'm able to sort of count to eight on this.
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:05.760
I'm happy to go through both of these uh these seasons really fast if you want to, but tell me where you are and like we'll see if if we're very far away from each other.
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:10.719
I I don't think we need to do it for the Panthers, but I do think we should go through it for the Falcons because I do have them at 12 and 5.
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:12.000
And I didn't go through the full schedule.
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:12.880
I'll tell you what happened here.
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.039
12 wins for the Falcons.
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:23.599
I have I have here a problem with the Madden complex where you look at the roster and it's just the team that you'd want to pick in the year with the Falcons, though.
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.719
They had they that's every year the Falcons don't fall into this trap.
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:29.360
They always look like they should be better than they actually are.
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.880
It's every season with them, it's every season with them all the way back.
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:36.639
A lot of talent across the field, man.
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:37.920
They don't have a quarterback.
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:38.639
Yeah, they don't.
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.079
I don't think that that's necessarily true.
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.159
I think my skin ball a little bit.
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.199
Can we agree on eight wins for the Panthers if you had them at nine?
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:55.119
We'll just just just put them at eight, call it, and then we'll go through the Falcons schedule, and then we'll give them uh we'll give the AFC team back the reins after we do this.
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:56.480
All right, let's see how many wins we got.
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:57.280
Yes, he beats.
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.360
Come on, AJ Terrell, come on, bro.
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.840
I see they beat the Steelers opening week.
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:17.119
They beat the Panthers, they lose to the Packers, they beat the Saints, they lose to the Ravens, they lose to the Bears, fucking hopefully, or I'll be suicide with suicidal by October.
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:22.000
They lose to the 49ers, they beat the Buccaneers.
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.079
Do they beat the Bengals?
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:28.559
Mike thinks the Bengals are having a big season this season.
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.000
I'm not giving them that win.
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:30.320
No.
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.280
He thinks they lose Joey to the Chiefs, they lose.
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:34.480
I mean, I like Joe Burrow.
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:40.719
They lose to the Chiefs, they beat the Vikings, they lose to the Lions, they beat the Browns, where it's six wins.
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.159
I'll give him a win against the Commanders, sure.
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.559
Uh seven books, no.
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:48.960
Uh Saints, sure, that's eight.
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:50.559
Panthers, they should split.
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.880
I got to eight wins, but I'm sorry.
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:54.159
Eight wins on a push.
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.119
They're gonna beat, they're gonna beat uh Jordan Love.
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:58.719
They're gonna beat him for sure.
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:00.559
Okay, make a call then.
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.239
It's not 12, but make a call.
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:08.480
Okay, so using the champions' logic of is it more likely 13 or is it more likely I forget what he was saying.
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:13.119
He was talking about something, but um you got going on there.
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.800
I'll I'll come down to 10.
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:23.280
Okay, 10 wins for the Atlanta Falcons is pure suicide, but I think our their steel might be incoming right now, but let's see.
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:24.719
They're winning this division for sure.
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.039
I have them with nine wins for what it's worth.
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:28.719
Hey, oh my boy.
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.119
Oh, all right, so I can't even waste a steal on that.
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.480
I think you can you can all well, I can't convince them.
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.360
I think you can always pencil the Falcons in for seven.
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:38.480
Yeah.
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.639
And then I just don't know what's gonna happen for that.
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:48.320
So NFC South, you're up, unless you guys have any opinions on the rest of the uh NFC South.
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.679
I just can I just ask you a question, Dipshit.
00:37:51.840 --> 00:38:00.159
Why do you think that the Falcons are so much better than a proven commodity of Baker Mayfield?
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.440
Uh, because I just think Baker's prone to not play very well.
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:04.800
What's proven about him, though?
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.440
Like the down the stretch, the injuries, like you know what I mean?
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.039
He's already mad at the organization.
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:11.840
What's proven okay?
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:16.320
Highlight Michael Penix and/or two for me, please.
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.440
Okay, but that's a tough quarterback room.
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:20.480
That's a tough quarterback room.
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.079
I didn't want to give him I didn't want to give him 10 minutes.
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:23.519
He's essentially a rookie.
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:24.800
He's giving him a little bit of time.
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.000
33 years old.
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:27.519
He can be a rookie for that much longer.
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:28.480
He's 41.
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:29.840
He's 52 years old.
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.960
How is a 61-year-old quarterback supposed to do this at 71 years old in the National Football League?
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:36.159
He takes a lot of time.
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:37.280
He's torn both ACLs.
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:41.360
I just think that you're listening, you're your Falcons take this wild.
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:46.000
Um, I wish I think that their defense is gonna carry them a lot, and I think it's gonna give the offense a lot of time to work.
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:52.320
I think Drake London is better than both Amika and um uh what's the old guy's name, the French Drake London.
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:54.480
I love Drake London.
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.280
I think their defense is gonna really, really care for him.
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.559
I think Kyle Pitts is untapped as far as he can go.
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:02.480
I think he's gonna drunk.
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.679
There's suicidal fantasy parts out there.
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.239
Please don't do this to yourself, bro.
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.719
And uh yeah, I've made a couple mistakes with him.
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.480
He's left he's left me hanging a few times.
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.400
No one is happy when they draft him.
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:15.760
They're like, this is the year.
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.280
This is the year.
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:19.360
Just remember the Madden complex.
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.679
This team has a lot of talent across the field.
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:23.440
Listen, two left quarterback.
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:30.159
Two lefts don't make a right, so two lefty quarterbacks aren't gonna make the love that.
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.000
No, I mean that's all that's all I got.
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:33.280
They're not they're not gonna be that good.
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:33.920
Yeah, no.
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:35.920
All right, go ahead and get me the AFC South.
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:37.119
Your AFC South Zach.
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:38.480
My AFC South?
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:39.039
All right.
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.119
We'll start in the uh the gutter, the uh Tennessee Titans.
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.920
New uniforms and new logo will not save this franchise.
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.719
Um so the four wins like head give them are against the Jets.
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:52.719
We don't need to spend that much time on them.
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:53.519
I had them at three.
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:54.159
Great.
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.400
So do you think it's more likely to get five wins or two?
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:57.199
Uh two.
00:39:57.840 --> 00:39:58.079
Okay.
00:39:58.159 --> 00:39:59.760
So three and fourteen.
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:01.039
Sure.
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:01.599
Okay.
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:03.199
Continue.
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:03.840
All right.
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.360
Uh regression year for the Jaguars, I think.
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:15.199
Um, and that's only because I think having a uh obviously the schedule changes when depending on your strength.
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.360
The schedule depends on how you finished from last year.
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.599
So I think they get kind of challenged this year.
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.000
Uh I put them at 7 and 10.
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:29.920
And they also have back-to-back London games, which I gave them uh wins for both, but otherwise uh I think they get challenged this year.
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.559
Alright, so I had them at 9 and 8.
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:33.679
8 and 8.
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:34.320
Great.
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:35.199
Should we do 8 and 9?
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:36.159
Yeah, we can do 8-9.
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:37.119
Love that.
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:37.679
Look at this.
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:38.000
Yeah.
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.480
You guys should go to the next UN summit.
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:42.480
It's like I wouldn't go that far.
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:44.639
The Indianapolis Colts.
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:48.800
I have both the Colts and the Texans finishing 9-8.
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:49.840
All right.
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:51.679
I'm not gonna argue with you about the Colts.
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.679
I have them at 9-8-8 as well.
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.119
It's perfect, but I I have the Texans at 11-6.
00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:59.519
Talk me through that.
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.159
Okay, so they had one of the most like they had a perennial defense last year.
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:20.159
Uh, they bolstered their offensive line, and one of their one of their weaknesses was that they didn't have a good running back because Joe Nixon never fucking played, and they brought in David Montgomery, who I think will be the type of uh red zone rusher and point scorer that you need.
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:26.320
Uh I think this is a team, again, that was so good last year on one side of the ball.
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.159
Uh CJ Stroud had some questions.
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:33.599
I just don't think he's as bad as he played against the New England Patriots the last time we saw him.
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:38.559
Um so yeah, I had like I said, I had them at a at 11 11-6.
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.440
I'll I'm happy if they go 10 and 10 and 7.
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.159
Yeah, I mean, I'll go 10 and 7.
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.159
Uh split the difference.
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:52.159
I just think for the Texans that like you said, is CJ Stroud that bad?
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:53.599
Probably not.
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:55.760
But he can't be.
00:41:56.239 --> 00:42:11.119
But dude, those are the type of games that just really alter someone's career, and you're just like, dude, you are like you have to be a really top-tier player in this in any league, any sport, to have a bad performance in the playoffs like that and bounce back.
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:20.400
To be kind of a mid-tier, higher mid-tier player and have that terrible of a game at that stage?
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:22.000
Ah, man, I don't know.
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.519
It just it gives a giant question mark for the season for that offense.
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:36.880
I just think the best thing about them this year is that all the pressure is on Indianapolis because they have they have literally decided that they have to go all in the uh over the next two years with Daniel Jones and their entire offense.
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:41.360
So the entire focus of nationally is gonna be can Daniel Jones stay healthy?
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:42.239
Is this the year?
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.000
And they can fly under the radar.
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.840
Uh, and then maybe he has a catastrophic postseason, who knows?
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.639
But uh, I'm sure we'll talk about that in January.
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:59.599
It's also very just AFC South to just have division winners being like nine and eight or only ten wins, and then just the rest is just dog shit.
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.800
Just always ends up this way for the AFC South.
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.199
Yeah, Titans are gonna suck for a long time.
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:09.599
Anything, fellas?
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:17.920
I think that the uh Houston Texans defense is probably the most skilled defense in the league on paper.
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:23.280
Um, I think that they are only gonna get better, they're only gonna go from strength to strength.
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.559
I think your prediction on them, I agree with pretty much all the other teams.
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:34.719
I wouldn't mount any sort of big thing against them, but I think the the the thing you're really looking at with the Texans is CJ Stroud.
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.119
I think you kind of you landed there and he hit the nail on the head.
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:41.280
I think since that time he tried to sun Caleb Williams.
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:49.599
I don't know if you guys remember that when he was is coming out talking to Caleb Williams like he was a fucking 10 time MVP and Caleb Williams like just got to the fucking rodeo.
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.599
Um, since that moment, Caleb Williams, 27 touchdowns, five interceptions.
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.639
CJ Stroud, 19 touchdowns, 15 interceptions.
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.679
Don't ever talk to my guy like that again, and we'll be cool.
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.880
You know, I do believe you can bounce back, but don't ever, don't, don't ever.
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:06.000
And then we'll be cool.
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.519
You know, I think he can bounce back.
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.599
I do think that the Texans are gonna win that division.
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:15.199
If I was on your team, I would, I would I would probably go on the higher side with them.
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.639
12 13 wins seems about right to me.
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.719
They were 12-5 last year, they didn't get any worse.
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:25.440
So um if he can finally shake off the juju of Yeah, but their schedule got harder.
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.280
Yeah, but I mean, like, I think that they're a little tougher.
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:36.400
I think they've been together for a long enough time where like this is now we're in entering the window where it's it's do or die for them, and I think they know that.
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:47.440
Um, and I think that like maybe CJ Stroud in the offseason, like, you know, asked his lord and savior to take that juju off him and he'll he, you know, apologized to the gods for ever coming at the goat.
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:56.559
So it it is what it is, but like I I think he can get that off out out of his system and you know, just just make amends, right?
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:01.199
Realize that he'll never be the quarterback that Caleb Williams is, and then like he can be pretty good.
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:03.519
I think that I think that'll be fair.
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:08.880
Um, but yeah, I do like to bring that up because I hated that moment and so did Caleb Williams.
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:10.320
So here we are.
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.159
Um I didn't like it when it happened, and uh here we are.
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:14.559
Yeah.
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:18.719
I do I think the Texans are I've been kind of pulling for him in this era, to be honest with you.
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:22.079
I like how they built the team, I like the coach, um, uh their defense first.
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:22.880
I I like that.
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:26.400
CJ Stroud can't get any worse in the postseason, so we'll see how it goes.
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:28.719
But um, yeah, I think a fresh start for him.
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:29.599
We'll see how it goes.
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.119
So you're gonna steal it.
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:33.599
Where did you guys land on them?
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:35.039
10 and 7.
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:37.519
You want to take 12.
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:38.239
Yeah, you do.
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:42.559
You said 12 or 13, so you think four you think 14 is is possible.
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:44.400
Yeah, you want to save it.
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:45.199
You want to save it?
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:45.920
No.
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.119
No, no, I'm not gonna bet on CJ Strat.
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:50.159
Not after that whole kid.
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:51.039
I would that guy.
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:56.559
That would have I almost willed that into existence, just like the Aaron Rodgers for the Steelers, by the way.
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:58.960
I willed that into exactly for the Patriots.
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:00.400
All right.
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.159
Um, okay, cool.
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:06.079
Uh, we're into the Easts, the the consecutive Easts.
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:07.599
Um, I love to see it.
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.599
Um, sorry, I gotta scroll up here.
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:10.719
I started off with them.
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:11.519
Um, okay.
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.400
Philadelphia Eagles, we're both relatively high on them, Matt.
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.800
It seems like you're much higher on them than I am.
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.519
Um, so why don't you start and you talk me into it?
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:21.119
I didn't count when losses.
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:27.599
I just see a team that's very experienced that got rid of what for them was a headache, and for the Patriots will be a savior.
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:31.440
Um, I I see a lot of room for them to just run away with it here.
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.280
I think the commanders are kind of fraudish.
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.199
Um, not fully fraud, but I I think that they're gonna run away with their division.
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.079
So uh I think Cooper DeGin and Quinny Mitchell are are devastating out there.
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.880
I don't think Jalen Hurts is as bad as everyone says.
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:50.239
Um and you know, Devontae Smith is now gonna have a shot to really go for it out there.
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.119
So I have them as a Super Bowl contender for sure.
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:55.280
You're gonna have to.
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:02.079
You know, you kind of have to have them as a Super Bowl contender just because they do have such a talented roster and they were successful so recently.
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:13.039
Um, I do have a consistent year-on-year issue with the Philadelphia Eagles, and that is a young man named Nick Siriani, who I think is the dumbest.
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.159
He's the he's the Joe Mazzula of the NFL.
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:24.000
Like he is the least, he is the least intelligent person in a high intelligent person's job that the NFL has to offer.
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.199
I don't know how he keeps that train on the tracks every year.
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:35.199
Just just bubblegum and fucking tissue paper every year before that just drama pot is gonna explode at some point.
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.440
And it's gonna have to happen at some point.
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.880
It's gonna have to happen that they're not gonna be able to get the train back on the tracks.
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.519
That being said, it's so hard to argue against how weak their division is.
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.519
I really think that that division is such a fucking clown show.
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:58.480
Their biggest rivals being the Dallas Cowboys is something that any football fan would crave over the last 20 years, to be totally honest.
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.719
I think that we're gonna come on to talk about the Cowboys and the absolute mess that they are.
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:05.760
And I've actually believed in them a couple times over the last few years.
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:17.440
Um, I was trying to be a good friend, but it turns out you'd have to be absolutely off your rocker to believe that the Dallas Cowboys were gonna be a successful football team.
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:18.719
We should have seen the signs.
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:25.760
But I think that I think that the problem is um nobody is gonna compete with the Eagles this year.
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:38.400
So that whatever flaws I think they have and whatever sort of uh stupidity that that that the guy driving the bus um is really is really containing, no one's gonna be there to really find them out um over the course of the season.
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:43.679
So I I'd be willing to go as high as 12, but I'd be more comfortable with 11.
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.519
I'm way yeah, I'll go with 11.
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:46.079
I like that.
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:46.960
Okay, great.
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.440
11 wins for the Eagles.
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:50.239
I enjoyed that.
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.800
I also I also had 11 wins for the Eagles.
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:53.599
Hey, look at that.
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:54.639
You should have been on our team.
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:55.840
It should be everybody against Mike.
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.599
He's that confident, honestly.
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.719
Um, the uh maybe we'll do that next year.
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.559
Um, Commanders, let's see, Commanders, Giants, Eagles.
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:14.079
Let's go to the other end of the spectrum here and just talk about how the New York football giants are not going to improve as much as perhaps some of their uh fans might want to believe that they are.
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:19.280
I think John Harbaugh alone does make me feel better about the prospects of the New York Giants.
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.159
I'm more of a Harbaugh guy than others seem to be.
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:26.559
The thing about Harbaugh is you criticize him based on his success, right?
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:30.000
Like he's never a losing coach by any stretch.
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.559
It's just a can he get you over the line question, right?
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.480
So you can't confuse the two things.
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:40.719
You do have to remember that he is gonna make a football team better, especially when you he comes into a four and thirteen situation.
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:47.760
That being said, I think a six-win season for the Giants would be a success based on what that what they've looked like over the last few years.
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:49.599
I'm kind of high on Jackson Dart.
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.519
I'm I'm unsurprised uh to have learned about his politics over the offseason.
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:59.280
I I that didn't shock me by any stretch of the imagination, considering his path to the NFL.
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:03.360
Um but I do kind of have fun watching him play football.
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.760
I he's he's he's a fun QB to watch.
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:13.679
Um and I think that a smart head coach not putting his brain in a blender with every play that he runs is gonna be helpful to him, right?
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.920
So Dable basically looked like he uh Jackson Dart had slept with his wife or something the way he was drawing plays up for him.
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:24.239
So I, you know, I don't know what the fuck they were doing back then, but he was never gonna make it through the whole season.
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:28.239
Um they added Tremaine Edmonds, who was a former Chicago Bear.
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:29.760
I think if used correctly, he can be good.
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.920
He's a little bit slow to the line, but it's fine.
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.280
DJ Reeder, Darnell Mooney, uh Dexter Lawrence getting traded is bad for them, obviously.
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.320
I mean that, but I don't blame the guy wanting to get out of there.
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:42.880
Um, there's some big defensive questions.
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:48.960
I think that they had a pretty, pretty good front seven last year, and they went four and thirteen, but they have Brian Dable as their coach.
00:50:49.199 --> 00:51:04.320
Switching this around, if neighbors and Scattaboo can come back, Scatabo, Scataboo, um, Cam, um, if if they can come back and play meaningful minutes in the second half of the season, I can see them getting the six wins, but I I think that'll be good for them.
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:09.599
I think that would honestly be an improvement, and you're gonna start to see like what what the project actually looks like under Harbaugh.
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:17.519
To expect him to get seven, eight, nine, double, god forbid, double digit wins right away in a situation like that.
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:18.559
I don't think so.
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:19.840
Um, let me see.
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.000
You had them at four wins.
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:23.679
I have them at six.
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:26.880
I guess we could call it five and and just shake on them.
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:32.000
My only issue with with your assessment is that it's it's not gonna be Jackson Dart.
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.639
As he said, every time he gets touched, he ends up in the blue tent.
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:35.760
It's Jameis Winston.
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.199
And I love James, he's fun to watch, but he's gonna throw as many picks as he does touchdowns.
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:40.880
That's where I get my four wins.
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.039
Uh what do you mean it's not gonna be?
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:44.000
Oh, you think he's gonna get rid of it?
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:44.960
It's not gonna be Jackson Dart.
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:45.920
Yeah, he's gonna get hurt.
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.679
He just he just uh in an interview the other day said he's every time I get hit, I end up with the blue.
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.039
I think you can I think you can protect him a little bit better though than last season.
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.800
He was running headfirst into fucking giant men.
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.239
Like every play was called the Jackson Darts brain injury.
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.880
Like it was fucking all the shit they were asking him to do was absolutely borderline irresponsible.
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.840
Like asking Tua to play football.
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.400
Asking Tua did not bounce his head off the ground.
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:12.800
Don't be so good to Dable, though.
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:17.360
He was hungry a lot of the time, so he had to think about food and football at the same time.
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.239
Um, yeah, I I just I and you know what's funny?
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:21.519
Because I'll I'll I'll get to it.
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.039
I have them at four and thirteen.
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:24.000
I feel very strong about it.
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:25.280
I'm willing to go to five for you.
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.880
I also have Harbaugh as coach of the year because I think that's a dick soccer contest.
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.840
I don't think they actually picked the best coach, but I'll agree with you.
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.519
It's a five five win season.
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:35.679
Okay, let's call it five for them.
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:36.559
Let's call five.
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:37.840
Uh who's last?
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:39.360
Washington commanders.
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:41.440
I think they'll have a bounce.
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:42.880
What'd you pick for Dallas?
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.440
Oh, did we uh did we come to the house?
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.119
Oh, we haven't done oh, we haven't done Dallas yet.
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:47.440
Sorry.
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:49.199
Um, let's do the commanders really fast.
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.760
Um, I think that they'll bounce back.
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:53.679
I think Jaden Daniels is good.
00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:00.800
Um, I think he lost, I think he came down a couple of uh rankings in that in that QB class.
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:05.679
Um it's a really good QB class, don't get me wrong, but I I mean what are you laughing at, Mike?
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:11.039
You think you want to sit, you want to sit here and you you're the floor is yours if you want to tell me that Jaden Daniels is better than Caleb Williams.
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:13.599
So you're well you're welcome to please put that on record.
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.440
You just see everything through the prism of Caleb.
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:22.000
Same draft cops as you fucking guys.
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:23.760
It's I'm about to compliment your guy.
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.000
You don't need to, it's fine.
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:30.559
But I've never like thought that.
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:34.480
I know I don't need to sit here and compare Drake made to anyone else in the quarterback class.
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:36.239
It wouldn't be fair to compare him, he's better.
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:39.679
I I don't well, first off, the Pats went to a Super Bowl before.
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.400
Uh he had a generationally bad playoff run.
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:44.480
I mean, it was one of the worst I've ever seen.
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:44.800
Right.
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.199
It's like it's he's gonna get compared to them.
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:48.960
Whether you do it or not, it's gonna happen.
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.719
He's gonna be next to these guys in these comparisons for the remainder of his career.
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.719
It's it's good that he had a good that he had that he came out of a good quarterback class.
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:57.760
It's it's a good thing.
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:08.880
Ranking those guys, I mean, I I'm not gonna I I refuse to have listened to Caleb Williams is a bust, and these other three guys are really good for as long as I did.
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:17.440
And then when it's factual that Caleb Williams is not, I don't get to go on a little bit of a fucking like actually he's better than at least two of the guys that he came out of a draft class with.
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:18.400
That doesn't seem fair.
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.639
The comparisons exist, is my point.
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:23.760
I'm not making them exist, they just exist.
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.000
There, that's just how football works.
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:34.000
So it's I I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that that our two guys came out of a really strong quarterback draft class.
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:35.760
I think Jaden Daniels is good.
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.239
I I genuinely think he's still really good.
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.159
Um they added Austin Eckler, Debo Samuels, Zach Ertz.
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:44.159
They they obviously believe in him too.
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:49.679
They have a hundred-year-old, yeah, they have a hundred-year-old Bobby Wagner now on the other side of the on the other side of the ball.
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:53.440
I don't know how much he has to offer left, but there's a lot of leadership.
00:54:53.679 --> 00:55:00.880
Um I think investing heavily in the defensive front was obviously a good idea for them.
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.599
All that being said, they went five and twelve last year.
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:04.159
That's tough.
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:22.079
It's I it's tough for me to to turn to sit here and add that many games to despite the fact that they they switched some stuff up, and and you know, I think that they're I like Dan Quinn personally as a coach, and I think that uh I I can see the argument for why you have him as first coach fired, but I I do think he's a good football coach.
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.960
Seven's the max I can get to with these guys.
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:26.880
Okay, I understand.
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:35.039
I I think what's gonna happen is is I think Dan Quinn's gonna fuck this all up because he's not gonna know how to use the uh old, old talent that he's added to his team.
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:36.800
Uh you have him at 10 wins though.
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.480
Where are they finding five wins?
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:43.360
Because you know, you can lose six games and then go on a run, and I think that that's what's gonna happen.
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:50.159
I think if Jaden Daniels can stay on the field and start competing with Drake May and your boy again, then they could get to 10 wins.
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:54.480
But in the interest of beating Mike, I'll just agree with you because you played this game a lot more than I have.
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.599
Well, all right well, I agree with you on the 10 wins, actually.
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.679
See Zach, we should have done this together.
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.000
We we have fuck you.
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.559
Me and you have almost agreed on most on most things.
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:09.039
They got a tough schedule.
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:12.239
Let's let's let's run the schedule real quick, see how many wins we can find.
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:18.880
Eagles, no, cowboys, yes, Seahawks, no, Colts, yes, yes.
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:19.840
Let's do it.
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.960
Giants, yes, 49ers, no, Eagles no.
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:25.199
You can see 49ers?
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:25.920
Yeah.
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:29.280
Nah, I don't see it.
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.840
I just I can't imagine it happening, but fine.
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:33.199
We'll give them that fourth win.
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:35.760
Uh Eagles, no, Rams, God no.
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.599
Um we come on to talk about the Rams.
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:39.760
You think they're gonna get swept by the Eagles?
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:40.639
Yes.
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:45.440
Um, it's not an automatic that you split with everyone in your division.
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:46.639
Sometimes you lose both games.
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:50.960
You know, um Rams, definitely not, Giants, sure, that's five.
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.639
Bengals, no, Cardinals, yes, Titans, yes.
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:55.920
Ooh, this is okay.
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:57.039
Texans, no.
00:56:58.239 --> 00:56:59.760
Falcons, yes.
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:01.199
Vikings, yes.
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:02.400
Oh shit.
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:04.960
Uh Jazz.
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:09.760
I love that David real time is like finding out about strength of schedule.
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.039
He's like, oh shit, they actually play like shit teams during the year.
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:13.760
They could win 10.
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.119
10 or 11, 10 or 11.
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:16.000
All right, fuck it, 10.
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:16.880
Let's let's go 10.
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:17.440
Yeah, you were right.
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:18.480
I'm so sorry.
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:19.119
Yeah.
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:27.920
Um, yeah, it's just, you know, it's funny because I what I did look at was like the strength of schedule grades of each team, like how everybody was grading them.
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:33.119
But then you start to get into the actual granular thing and you start to look at who they're playing, you're like, I think every team is dog shit.
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:37.519
Like, I only I only think like four teams are good, as it turns out.
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:38.159
And you know why?
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:40.719
And this is a theme that comes up every year when we do the NFL.
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:48.079
And I'm really excited to do the NFL with you guys because there's a real consistent theme that comes up, and that's that there's this many good quarterbacks.
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:53.840
There's this many in one hand, you can hold that, you can hold all the good quarterbacks in the NFL, especially over the last few years.
00:57:54.079 --> 00:58:04.639
So, unless you had uh, you know, Drake May last year, Pat Mahomes, one of these guys that you just have like I a guarantee of like he'll go out and find a way to win these games.
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:08.559
There's ways to to imagine that these teams lose.
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:09.920
Like it's just the way it is.
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:10.960
So fun.
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:11.679
Fun.
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:13.280
I had fun doing that.
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.519
10 wins for the Washington Commanders.
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:16.559
That's hilarious.
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:17.280
All right.
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:22.480
The Dallas Cowboys allowed 511 points last year.
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:28.320
Um, any, I think, prediction for them really comes down to whether the defensive overhaul is real.
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.920
Uh, I think Rashawn Gary gives them an actual pass rush.
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:38.800
Obviously, the theme of their their year last year was that they gave up the best one of the best pass rushers in the league for peanuts.
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:42.800
Um, first round safety, Caleb Downs, that's cool.
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:47.599
Dag Prescott, I mean, I just don't think he's the guy.
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.519
I don't necessarily think that that makes him a bad quarterback.
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:55.360
I don't think that he's a guy who's ever gonna bring a championship to Dallas.
00:58:55.519 --> 00:59:00.079
I think we decided that a few years ago on the show, based on you know, watching him play football.
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.320
Um, but importantly, he's not a bad QB.
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:09.599
We can't we can't we can't just suddenly decide he's not top seven at the minimum, right?
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:15.920
So if him and the offensive line stay healthy, there's enough offense to make a three-game improvement, I think.
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:17.119
They were seven, nine, and one.
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:19.599
Any team that draws is just like that's depressing.
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:20.800
There's seven, nine, and one.
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:25.199
I think I can find two more wins, and maybe the draw turns into a win.
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.599
So eight wins or nine wins were like in that range.
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:28.000
I don't know.
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:28.480
You tell me.
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:32.480
I had him at eight wins, and I thought I was being super generous because Dak sucks.
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:41.119
And uh no, he's Dak has all these these skill sets where he throws a tight pass.
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.119
Yes, he can get away from the sex.
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.360
Yes, he's he's fast, he's strong, he's tall.
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:52.000
But what's gonna have like a top he's had a top ten wide receiver every single year that he's played in the every single year of his career, and he's never done shit with it.
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:53.280
Yeah, so what are we talking about here?
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:54.880
Plus, Marquez Valdez Gantling.
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:56.079
How many last names did you get, pal?
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:57.119
Get out of here.
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.559
Leave some last names for someone else, buddy.
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.280
Okay, that's just greedy, fella.
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:04.480
Uh yeah, that's fine.
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:05.519
Yeah, I'm cool with eight wins.
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:06.159
I'm I'll fuck it.
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:07.039
I'd be cool with seven wins.
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:08.079
Whatever you want to do on the cowboys.
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:09.039
Let's go seven.
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:09.440
Fuck him.
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:10.239
Yeah, fuck him.
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:11.679
Seven wins again for the Cowboys.
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.719
You think that the black Kirk Cousins and his team are gonna do seven wins.
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:19.440
Seven wins.
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.159
Kirk Cousins was a great regular season QB.
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:23.280
All right, in his day.
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:24.960
That's just that's that's fact.
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.679
He was it was just when the lights were bright in the playoffs.
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:28.559
Yeah, exactly.
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:32.159
So seven wins feels kind of egregious, I'll be honest.
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:33.119
I think we should do eight.
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:34.400
I really should come back.
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:35.360
Eight wins final answer.
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:36.800
Mike, final answer, go.
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:38.639
Go ahead.
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:39.920
Uh any any of the things.
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.559
Well, just I have Dallas winning week one in New York.
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:50.000
I just I don't know, the vibes there just something aligns for me to say that Dallas could go into New York and win.
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:51.280
Just throwing that out there.
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:55.519
I agree with you completely, and I think it's a fun division where these teams always bash each other to death.
01:00:55.679 --> 01:01:00.239
I just don't think the Commanders, Cowboys, or Giants are very good.
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.079
Okay, so you listed the Giants at 5-12.
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.559
We're we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna steal them.
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:14.320
Uh, and we're gonna go with uh did we decide eight and nine is actually eight and nine, yes.
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:15.840
We both had them at eight and nine.
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:16.480
Yeah.
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:20.079
The Giants are gonna improve four games.
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.400
Yes, they're gonna win four more games just because of the game.
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:26.639
Yes, because yeah, because he will not design plays to get Jackson Dark killed, to your point.
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:28.559
They lost their best defensive player in the Austin.
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.440
Malik Neighbors is coming back, Scatterboo's coming back.
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:32.159
Oh, yeah, I know.
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:32.800
That's a good thing.
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:33.440
You can have that schedule.
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:34.880
And it's a bad schedule, too.
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.960
I mean, it's a now you guys have to spend the season believing in the New York football giants.
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.400
I know that's a bold position, boys.
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:45.679
DK, read their schedule.
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:46.480
It's bad.
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:47.039
No, it's bad.
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:47.440
It's bad.
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:48.239
It's very bad.
01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:49.119
But they're the giants.
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:50.400
They're very bad.
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:51.119
Sure.
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:52.480
Uh read it.
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:54.639
They're bad, but they're not very, very bad.
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:57.760
They're they're bottom, they're bottom third.
01:01:58.800 --> 01:01:59.679
Okay, let's see.
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:00.639
That's preseason.
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:04.559
All right, so they start with the cowboys, and I think you just said they were gonna lose that game, right?
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:05.679
Yep, lose that game.
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:06.800
Okay, all right.
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:08.719
I mean, he just said he just got done saying it.
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:09.679
I gotta say.
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.679
Uh the Rams, they're gonna lose.
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:12.880
The Titans.
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:15.920
Wait, I mean, that's I hope none of us have to watch that game.
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:17.119
I'll put that out there.
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:17.679
Oh my god.
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:18.079
Fine.
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:18.880
We'll give them that win.
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:20.079
Cardinals, fuck it.
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:20.960
I'll give them that win too.
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:22.320
Commanders, that's the loss.
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:22.800
Yep.
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:24.880
Saints, I think they're gonna lose that game.
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:27.360
Texans, I think they're gonna lose that game.
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:29.760
Eagles, they're gonna lose that game.
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.760
Commanders, they're gonna lose that game.
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.800
Jaguars, they're gonna lose that game.
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.280
Colts lost.
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.599
I think it's gonna be a dog play for shit.
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:40.400
Loss.
01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:42.400
Seahawks lost, Browns, fuck it.
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:43.039
You can give them that one.
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:43.840
They've now had three.
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.039
Lions lost, Cowboys lost, Eagles lost.
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:48.400
We found three wins, guys.
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:49.280
Good luck.
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:52.320
That was that was only up and up.
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:53.360
I'm happy with that steal.
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:54.239
All right, let's go.
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:56.079
Same AFC East.
01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:57.280
AFC's.
01:02:57.599 --> 01:02:58.480
Uh Zach.
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.079
Deal Patriots 6 and 0.
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:02.559
Sorry.
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:06.719
They're not gonna play their whole season.
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:09.440
Keep doing it.
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:13.199
I have the Patriots at 11 and 6.
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:23.119
Um, much tougher schedule, but I think this is where Mike Rabel may have gotten coach of the year last year, but I think this year is where it's really.
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:24.800
Didn't get a husband of the year, that's for sure.
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:25.119
Sorry.
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:26.079
No, that's the last one.
01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:26.480
Last one.
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:27.360
Hey, still married.
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:28.159
Who'd have thought?
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:29.199
Uh no pre-mediction.
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:30.079
That was Bill Clayton.
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:30.480
Right.
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:32.079
Guys, let's just all get it out there.
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:38.000
Diane Rossini, would 11 and 6.
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.920
Um, I think this is where Vrabel really shines as a head coach.
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:49.519
Last year was obviously easy schedule, injuries, luck, what have you.
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:55.519
But I think this is where we're really gonna see Mike Vrabel and this this team shine.
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.679
Um, it's gonna be tough.
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.920
There's definitely gonna be some obvious losses like in Miami.
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:04.320
Um fuck that.
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:04.880
Fuck that.
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:09.920
I'm just saying in Miami, home again or the opener against Seattle that might get destroyed again.
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:12.639
I'm sure they'll split against Buffalo again.
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.559
Uh in Kansas City on Monday nights, it's gonna be a tough game as well.
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:21.519
Uh, even though they have the Broncos at home, I still think that's a tough game, too.
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:24.719
Um, so I'm confident with 11 and 6.
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.599
Yeah, I had them 12 and 5.
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:38.639
Um for all the reasons that you just stated, but I think that we had he was listen, Drake May is not as bad as you as you saw in the postseason and and in the Super Bowl.
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:48.400
He's I think he came down to earth a little bit, but I don't think there was a quarterback in the league last year that that had a better passer rating uh on passes that were in the air for 25 yards or longer.
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:51.039
And now they have a really big target, an AJ Brown.
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:56.719
Um I I do I think that 10 wins is more likely than 13.
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.639
Yeah, so I I I can do 11 11 and six.
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:01.360
Excellent.
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:02.719
I love being right.
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:03.679
It's great.
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.079
Well, you you gotta watch the season first before you can make that prediction.
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:12.400
But listen, I I'm right, I'm right when it comes to having Michael agree with me.
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:13.679
That's really all it comes down to.
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.079
If I can get him to agree with me on something, that's a win in my book.
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.039
But just like I had 10 minutes for the Pats, also, so I don't want to steal this.
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:19.760
I don't know about you, man.
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:21.199
I had 17, but we'll good.
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:22.000
We'll let's put that.
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:24.800
I do think Super Bowl hangovers are real.
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.400
Uh I think losing the Super Bowl historically, like it is a real thing.
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:36.159
I think the way you lost the Super Bowl, I actually see more as all right, we got here a little too early.
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:36.559
Yeah.
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:45.039
You know, we're a little ahead of schedule and not the sort of way people want to frame it, which is wow, they got their fucking asses kicked, they got dog walked.
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:48.880
It's like, no, they just like met a better team in the in the championship game.
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:50.400
It's one game, it happens.
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:52.719
Um they have been there.
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:57.280
I you know, I mean, they were, you know, they they made it, they made it to the game, so it is what it is.
01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:58.800
Like, no, nobody fucking beat them.
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:06.320
So you Know you can say what you will about their strength of schedule last year, you can say what they would what you will about their strength of schedule in the in the postseason.
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.480
Um, I think Drake May's a good quarterback.
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:10.000
I think Mike Vrabel's a good coach.
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:11.440
I don't think any of that's changed.
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:25.519
Um, I think that Patriots hate based on the era of success that they went through is boring, and I think that it's I just I still I think they're about as good, if not a little bit better, and more experienced than they were last year.
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:29.920
And if you put a little bit better against the strength of schedule, I think 10 wins is like completely feasible.
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.480
So I I was I wanted to steal the pats from them, Matt, but I I just sort of agree with their take.
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:38.239
So I had 13, so I it doesn't feel like worthy of a steal.
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:40.320
I think 13's in play, you know.
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:41.440
I really genuinely do.
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:44.159
I think I think nine is in play, and I think 13 is in play.
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:52.320
So it's if you want to land where you land, that's but you would almost you you almost have to pick what 14 because if it's 12, then we we still have a point.
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.400
I think there's also some favorable things happening with your with your schedule.
01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:00.960
Like you play the Lions in Germany immediately, you get a bye week, and then you come back and play the Chargers.
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:06.480
I think that's that's a pretty crucial little uh area to to look at.
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.280
I think that you anyone that gets to play the Dolphins twice.
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:16.000
Um, I know you think you're gonna lose one of them, but anyone that gets to play the dolphins twice is is wonderful, especially one of those games is week 18.
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:21.519
And I don't know if you know about the dolphins in weeks that have two numbers in them, but it's not great.
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:22.800
Historically.
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:24.960
Um they're like, it's cold.
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:26.880
And they're it's like it's Miami.
01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:30.960
And they're like, it's still colder than it should be, and then they just fall apart.
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:32.320
Um, so there's that.
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:34.719
You get to play the Jets twice, so there's that.
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:36.800
Um I don't know.
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:45.199
I I I I it's it's a definitively more difficult on paper schedule, but I mean, we took we talked about the Steelers, you play them week two.
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:51.760
I don't think you're gonna beat the Seahawks week one, but you get a you have an immediate chance to bounce back with two wins in a row against the Jags and the Steelers, you know.
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:53.920
So you could be two and one going into that Bills game.
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:54.800
That's a divisional game.
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:55.840
You never know what could happen.
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:59.679
Then maybe you're three and one, maybe you beat the Raiders and the Jets, you're four, five, and one.
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:00.960
I mean, like this shit could happen.
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:02.320
Maybe they're 16 and one.
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:03.199
Who knows?
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.400
I hear I hear Super Bowl talk already starting here.
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:07.039
That's what I hear.
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:13.360
They I mean, as a team, and I don't I don't want to get totally bogged down to the Patriots, but I mean this is a New England centric show.
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:16.079
As a team, I think their goal should be the Super Bowl.
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:19.840
I I I mean I think that they should be coming in saying, we just made it there last year.
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.399
Like, let's see, you know, and I mean shit.
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:30.479
If you can come out and punch the Seahawks in the mouth, you know, based on the fact that they're they're on a little bit of a victory lap right now, maybe the context, week one, you need revenge game.
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.920
We'll see, you know, we're not that team anymore.
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:32.880
We had this offseason.
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:33.279
I don't know.
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:34.800
It's really a mentality thing.
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:36.479
Like it really depends on who they are.
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:44.720
If you honestly are out there thinking that the Diana Rossini, Mike Vabel thing is gonna affect their uh their ability to win football games.
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:50.720
I invite you to look at all of history over the last 20 years and how media scandals don't do shit anymore.
01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:52.239
They last about eight seconds now.
01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:54.239
Like this is not following him around.
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:56.079
People are already bored of talking about it.
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:57.760
Um, they didn't fire him.
01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:02.159
So, and you know, honestly, coaches and owners and players have all done worse.
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.039
And Deshaun Watson's still gonna make like a billion dollars this year.
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:06.479
So, like, I don't I don't know.
01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:07.439
It is it is what it is.
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:10.239
I I'm not a Patriots fan, but I think we can all happily move on.
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:10.880
It's boring now.
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:12.640
Yep, I agree.
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.119
Uh the Bills.
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.279
Uh I have the Bills at I had them at 11 and 6.
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:24.640
Um, I just think you know they are they are a really good regular season team.
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:32.960
Um, I I am intrigued to talk about them come playoff time, especially because of how they get rid of uh their their last head coach because he couldn't get to a Super Bowl.
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:38.239
So now you've almost said that any coach that doesn't get to the Super Bowl with Josh Allen might be fired the next year.
01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:43.199
I think getting uh DJ Moore is a is a is a really huge thing for them.
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.399
Um and they're just they're they're a good regular season team.
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.479
I don't see any reason why that's gonna stop.
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.439
Yeah, I am at 13 and four.
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:55.520
Um I can I don't know.
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.640
Not that I don't think it's like a dominant 13-4.
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:07.039
I think they get I think they get beat by some legitimate competition like the Rams, um, the Bears.
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.840
I got them down for a loss against the Bears, so there you go, Dave.
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:10.560
Yeah, Dave.
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:12.000
Yeah, you're welcome.
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:13.279
Um I don't know.
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:14.720
12 and 5.
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:16.239
We can do 12 and 5, sure.
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:18.560
All right, so this is I think these are gonna be interesting ones.
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.000
This is gonna be the most interesting.
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:20.800
Jets.
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:24.000
Oh, I had them down for 0 and 17.
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:24.720
No, you know.
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:26.960
I sort of I went through the schedule.
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:30.960
I'm like, Well, you can't put them down for that because then you they can't win negative one games.
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:36.159
Right, which would be kind of cool if they did, but uh so I if anyone could do it.
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:38.079
If they could do it, it'd be the Jets.
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:43.439
Uh for the sake of this game, I would say put them down for one win, but what do you have them at?
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:44.399
The Jets?
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:45.439
Yeah.
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.079
They suck, they're awful, terrible ass.
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:49.520
Booty cheeks.
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:52.239
I have them five and twelve.
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:54.159
Oh boy.
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:56.079
Who who do you have them beating?
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:57.439
Miami twice?
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:00.159
Twice?
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:00.960
Yes.
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:01.840
Come on.
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:06.560
I I I have the the Dolphins at 3 and 14.
01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:09.199
You think the Jets are gonna be better than the Dolphins?
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:18.479
Yes, I think they get exponentially better in every at in every aspect aside from uh from from really quarterback.
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:21.920
Uh but kind of an important position though.
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:25.840
It didn't seem to matter for you to for the Falcons going fucking 14-3 for you, dude.
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:26.560
So just sit sit down.
01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:27.920
Sit down for a second.
01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:29.600
Fine, fine, fine, fine.
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:35.039
I don't think Geno Smith is I think Geno Smith is one of the worst QBs we have, uh to be honest.
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:36.640
He's really bad.
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:37.920
Like he's really, really bad.
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:40.720
So like that was one of the worst seasons I've ever seen from a QB.
01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:41.840
So who all right?
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:44.000
So you see them beating the Dolphins twice.
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:45.279
Who else are they beating?
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:47.279
Let me put the schedule here.
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:50.159
I didn't, I didn't I didn't know if you'd be like to ask.
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:55.520
I'm sorry, I have them down for exactly zero wins.
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.880
So I was just kind of curious about your logic here.
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:03.680
All right, so they're overunder in Vegas is five and a half, just putting that out there if that helps anybody.
01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:05.760
So they open up the Titans.
01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:07.119
I have them beating the Titans.
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:38.079
No, losing yeah, losing to the Packers, losing to the Lions, losing to the Bears, uh, losing to the Browns, losing to the Patriots, beating the Dolphins, beating the Raiders, losing to the Chiefs, losing to the Bills, losing to the Chargers, beating the Dolphins, uh, losing to the Broncos, losing, uh, beating the Cardinals, losing to the Patriots, uh beat uh losing to the Vikings and beating the Bills because the Bills will be resting their shards at week 18.
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:40.640
I still think that's the first one.
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:46.960
I will give you the only ones I will accept are week eighteen because why not?
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:53.439
And then uh the Cardinals might be in competition for being just as bad.
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:55.680
Okay, so three and fourteen.
01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:57.279
I can do three.
01:12:57.520 --> 01:12:58.479
This sucks.
01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:00.000
Wait, what if you have the Bills?
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.479
Wait, hold on what Mike, what did you have the Bills finishing?
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:03.039
11.
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:04.800
Uh, we have them 12 and 5.
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:07.920
And they're resting their stars at 12 and 5 with the Patriots in their division?
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:08.720
I don't think so, pal.
01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:16.239
Yeah, I know the Patriots like the best team in the NFL of all time, but they're it's you know, I think they're 13 wins though.
01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:17.680
We have them at 11.
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:19.039
Oh, I'm sorry, never mind.
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:20.479
Somebody said 13.
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:22.239
I think we should steal this, Matt.
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:23.840
I just think we should too.
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:30.159
I think just from a for just from a strategy standpoint, I think there's a chance that just uh listening to him read that out.
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:37.199
I think that there's a small chance, despite the fact that I'm probably gonna push for Aaron Glen being first coach fired um in a few minutes.
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:40.399
I do think we can kind of hedge our bets here, just cover ourselves.
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:43.920
Like if we would you guys pick in the end, three and fourteen.
01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:45.760
So we can't pick four, right?
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.319
Because you have to pick five or one.
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:50.960
Five or zero.
01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:53.359
No, because we we can't pick five, right?
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:55.199
Because then if it's four, we both get the point.
01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:56.319
Yeah, no, yeah.
01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:57.840
So you have to pick six or zero.
01:13:58.000 --> 01:13:58.800
I think we go six.
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:00.800
Yeah, let's just steal and pick six.
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:01.600
Fuck it.
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:02.399
Um, cool.
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:04.159
We're gonna steal, we're gonna take the jets at six.
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:07.760
The jets are so annoying, they get these sneaky fucking wins out of nowhere.
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:08.800
I just I feel it coming.
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:11.359
And they're you know, your division's not that good.
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:13.600
Mostly because they're in it, but right.
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:15.920
Well, and this next team, the the dolphins.
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:16.560
Right.
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:18.079
So what'd you have them at?
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:20.800
Uh I I had them at three and fourteen.
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:22.560
I had them at seven and ten.
01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:25.119
Oh, maybe we should have saved our steal.
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:29.600
Who who is who's is it?
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:31.119
Where are you getting seven wins?
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:32.880
Where are you getting seven wins for the Miami Dolphins?
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:34.000
I had them.
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:36.880
I I think uh Hold on.
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:42.159
Before we go through this before before you do this, before I do it.
01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:45.600
Just know, I mean, they lost literally everybody.
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:46.079
Yep.
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:55.279
Uh that uh Jalen Jalen Waddle's gone, obviously Tyree Hill's gone, two is gone, Bradley Chubb, gone, Mika Fitzpatrick, gone.
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:56.079
Yep.
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:58.159
Mike McDaniel, gone.
01:14:58.399 --> 01:14:58.720
Yeah.
01:14:58.960 --> 01:14:59.199
Okay.
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:01.600
Mike McDaniel wasn't good, but okay.
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:03.039
I liked him.
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:04.000
Yeah.
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:05.279
It was fun.
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.159
I just think they could steal a few wins here.
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:09.600
Yeah, Malik Willis.
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:10.880
You again is just so good.
01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:14.000
But I've never said he was, but I said they could steal some wins.
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:14.800
Okay, go ahead.
01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:16.000
What wins would those be?
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.079
Yeah, you have seven of them, so go ahead.
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:22.800
I think week three against the Chiefs is uh sneaky uh steal.
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:30.079
Just gonna throw if you want to be a betting man and throw money on uh Miami to cover week three, you should do it.
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:32.079
Because Mahomes won't be back yet.
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:33.920
So if you want to go ahead and make some money.
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:40.319
Okay, okay.
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:44.319
I'll go with your prediction, Mike, just for the sake of winning.
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:45.760
Yeah, I think you should do that too.
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:50.079
So uh I had them at three and fourteen.
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:52.880
I'll I'll I'll I'll do four and thirteen.
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:55.119
No, I'll do three and thirteen or fourteen.
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:55.680
Okay.
01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:57.199
He didn't really believe it.
01:15:57.279 --> 01:15:58.239
He never really believed in it.
01:15:58.880 --> 01:15:59.600
And fourteen.
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:00.560
Perfect.
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:02.000
All right.
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:10.399
Uh so AFC East, we have bills 12 and 5, Paths 11 and 6, both the Jets at 3 and 14, and you stole the Jets for 6 and 11.
01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:11.760
Yep.
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:13.039
All right.
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:13.760
West.
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.399
Final direction in the Cardinal map here.
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:17.600
The West, the NFC West.
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:19.439
We can actually talk about some decent teams here.
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:20.239
Thank God.
01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:31.520
Um, despite the fact that there seems to be uh like a haunted power charging station in uh in San Francisco that's getting all their players injured all the time, and I don't think that's gonna stop anytime soon.
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:34.720
Um, I'm fully have my conspiracy tinfoil hat on for that, by the way.
01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:39.039
They really got to move that training field because that would that's making all their muscles explode.
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:44.319
But uh oh uh let's start with the Cardinals actually, just to get them out of the way because I think they're gonna lose this division.
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:46.800
Um, the Cardinals I have at five wins.
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:49.600
Yep, I had them at four.
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:50.800
Let's go with five.
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:51.359
All right.
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:52.079
Uh Cardinals.
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:53.359
Garbage, they suck.
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:54.960
Don't have to talk about them anymore.
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:56.800
At least they moved on from Kyler.
01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:57.520
It is what it is.
01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:58.000
Whatever.
01:16:58.079 --> 01:16:58.479
Moving on.
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:00.640
Don't want to talk about them for the rest of the season, hopefully.
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.039
Uh moving on to the San Francisco 49ers.
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:05.439
I think they're gonna come in third, but I think they're gonna come in third with 10 wins.
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:08.079
Um, I think that they this is a really tough division.
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:09.439
It's gonna be a dog fight.
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:14.000
I think that I still respect the sort of Shanahan of it all.
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:18.479
Um, I still respect a lot of what that organization does and how they run their team.
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.560
I think their roster is still really good.
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:21.840
It's very dependent.
01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:25.439
It's really dependent on how many of those guys they can actually get on the onto the field.
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:28.159
Um, I've always been a Brock Purdy believer.
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:29.920
I I think he's a pretty good QB.
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:37.039
I think he gets because of his style of play, I think he gets a uh a real kind of bad rap with this like system QB thing.
01:17:37.199 --> 01:17:41.920
You can be a system QB if the system's good, you know, and I think that they have a good offensive system.
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:56.560
So um I'm gonna I I think 10 wins, but I'm I'm willing to be talked out of it just because it's this is the biggest punt I think we have in our in our entire predictions because they it's really so health dependent, you know, like it's it's so availability dependent with the with the 49ers this year.
01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:59.119
So it's really just betting on who they can get on the field and who they can't.
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:08.000
But even even when guys go down there, they seem to be able to next man up a little bit and still sort of limp their way through these seasons, and and they're always a hard team to play.
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:09.760
So I don't know, you tell me.
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:15.840
I'm actually a little upset with myself because I have them at 98, but look, I mean, their roster, I have another Madden problem.
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:18.239
Like, there's just so much offensive talent on the field.
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:19.680
I do want to go up to 10.
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:23.279
I do want up to I do want to put them at 11, to be honest with you, but 10 sounds fair.
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:26.000
And they got Mike Evans now, that just seems like a great fit.
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:32.640
There's there's always like wow, yeah, Kittle's still good, McCaffrey's still good, but it's like, does McCaffrey stay on the field for the whole season?
01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:33.279
I don't know.
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:37.760
You know, like no, probably like more than likely if we're really making bets here.
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:44.960
Um, I do think that they have some young depth that hopefully can actually stay healthy, but that they're also in a really tough division.
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:46.880
I just think I'm safe at 10.
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:50.319
You know, I just I think I'm like they're their over-under is nine and a half.
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.479
So I think uh we just bet the over slightly.
01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:54.319
I think that's just to keep ourselves safe here.
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:56.720
Um it could go generationally bad, but who knows?
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:57.279
I know it's a crazy.
01:18:57.520 --> 01:18:58.960
This division's gonna be wild.
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:04.560
I I don't have just moving right along, I don't have the champions winning this division this year.
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:05.840
Uh I saw that.
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:09.680
I have the Seahawks at 11 and 6 and the Rams at 12 and 5.
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:12.239
We can talk about them in sort of a in a in a package here.
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:14.960
I just yeah, I think the I think the Rams are really good.
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:16.479
Like I think they're really fucking good.
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:17.199
I think they're scary.
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:18.159
Very talented.
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:22.640
They're my pick for uh to at least go to the Super Bowl from the NFC this year.
01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:26.720
Um it's a really tough division, really, really talented Rams team.
01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:28.720
I've always really respected their head coach.
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:31.600
I I think he's really smart and good at his job.
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:35.119
Um the Seahawks are still really good, don't get me wrong.
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:44.079
I mean, it'd be it'll be tough to sleep on them, but I can't give away three triple-digit wins and have two teams be at 12.
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:45.840
And I think the Rams are gonna win 12.
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:49.600
So saying the Seahawks are gonna be at 11 is more than I'm more sure about the Rams.
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:50.640
Does that make sense?
01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:51.439
I understand.
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:56.640
Yep, and I also had the Rams at 12, but I had the Seahawks at 14, probably because I was so hard on San Francisco.
01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:58.319
That's probably where my San Francisco take came.
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:03.199
You want the Seahawks to be better than maybe they actually are because of the last game that we all watched competitively.
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:05.920
I don't I'm gonna be honest with you.
01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:15.279
I um it makes me physically ill to think about the Super Bowl because for some reason for me it hurt worse than the last Giants and Philly.
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:16.720
So let's just not do that.
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:18.319
Uh that has nothing to do with what I'm doing here.
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:20.239
So I so how dare you, first of all.
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:22.479
Second of all, I just don't think the Seahawks are done.
01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:23.840
I just don't think that defense is done.
01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:27.119
I think that they're still cooking and I think they're gonna be all over the place.
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:29.920
I think the coaching staff over there is unbelievable.
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:31.840
All right.
01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:34.720
So uh what do you want to do?
01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:38.960
I I okay, so we agree on 12 wins for the Rams.
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:39.840
Sure.
01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:43.520
You're at 11 for the Seahawks, yeah.
01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:45.039
But I mean, I I get it.
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:46.159
You know, I I do get it.
01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:49.439
I was just I just feel like I've given up three fucking wins, you know.
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:52.479
Like I look at my board, I'm like, the NFC is just gonna win every game.
01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:56.479
I don't I don't I don't know the NFC is considerably more talented.
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:57.600
You want let's break down the season?
01:20:57.680 --> 01:20:58.560
Let me pop their schedule.
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:04.159
Um, yeah, I mean I I do think the NFC has a lot of contenders right now, especially in the West.
01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:10.319
Um I mean, Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett on the same fucking line, and it's gonna be so stupid.
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:11.680
I know it's ridiculous.
01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.800
12 wins is conservative, honestly, for the Rams, to be honest.
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:19.600
But uh I can I could be talked into more wins for the Seahawks, and but let's just agree they split, right?
01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:23.520
So Seahawks, Patriots, Patriots, we've got a win, right?
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:27.439
We've got Cardinals, that's an easy win.
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:29.920
Commanders, I think they're gonna beat the commanders, chargers.
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:31.039
I think they're gonna beat the Chargers.
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:34.239
49ers, I'll give them I'll I'll say that they split with the 49ers.
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:36.479
Um so I'll count that one as the win.
01:21:36.560 --> 01:21:37.199
So that's five.
01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:39.680
Broncos, six, Chiefs.
01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:44.159
That's gonna be a dog fight, or it could be that the Chiefs are really all done and that one's over.
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:49.039
So I'll give them the loss there, but it it easily could be Bears.
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:52.800
Um I don't want to say it out loud.
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:55.920
I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I do I think they beat the Bears.
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:59.119
I think you're bears coming a fucking run for their money last season.
01:21:59.199 --> 01:21:59.600
I don't know.
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:00.399
Just put it out there.
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:02.800
It's like the craziest throw of the entire NFL season.
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:03.840
Well, let's break it down.
01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:07.680
It's a night, it's a night game in November, and you got the Bears traveling across country.
01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:10.640
So I'll give it to the Seahawks midway, you know.
01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:11.359
Right?
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:13.520
Well, wait, what do you mean?
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:18.800
If the Bears are scoring 40 points a game up until that point, maybe it'll change your tune by that.
01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:24.079
I don't know, maybe just put it fucking out there just like so we'll we'll split on that one.
01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:24.880
I'll we'll table that.
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:28.239
But Cardinals is a win, Raiders is a win, 49ers.
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:30.159
We said they'd split, so I'll give that one the loss.
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:34.000
Cowboys is a win, Giants is a win, Eagles probably a loss, Rams.
01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:35.920
I'll I think they're gonna split with the Rams.
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:40.640
Those teams are gonna dogfight all year long, and it's a Christmas game, and then Panthers is a win.
01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:42.800
So I I think we have them at 13.
01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:45.119
Okay, I'll go 12.
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:45.920
12.
01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:47.920
I don't want them to both be at 12.
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.720
That's we're gonna do it, means we're definitely gonna lose one of them, just like the math of those.
01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:52.239
Then it's a float, it's a float.
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:55.119
Then give it then call it 14, then call it fucking 14.
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:56.399
We're covered on both sides, honestly.
01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:58.079
Bring it all the way up to 14.
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:02.479
It's a 14's a smarter bet just based on the how the game works, you know what I mean?
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:08.319
Because like we had a we had a we had what four maybes in there, so you just pump the maybes up and you just say fuck it.
01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:10.880
What they win more than they lose in those maybes, and that's it.
01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:13.199
But they lose to the bears, right?
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:15.359
14 covers us on 13 and 15.
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:21.760
So 14 and 3 for the Seahawks and 12-5 for the 12 and 5 for the Rams.
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:23.760
I almost want to give the Rams 13.
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:24.720
It's fine, move on.
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:25.439
Wow.
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:29.359
Wow, anything anything to say on our predictions there, guys?
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:31.039
All right.
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:38.319
I think you guys are cute, though.
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:40.720
I think you love the 49ers.
01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:47.680
I I I I I do think you have so much respect, almost too much respect for for the head coach.
01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:58.319
Um, and I just think if there's any team like if that that is like injury prone in the league, it has been the Bengals or the 49ers.
01:23:58.479 --> 01:23:59.279
And that's just been going on.
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:04.239
The 49ers also went out and got a bunch of injury prone guys when they were already injury prone, which is was insane.
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:05.359
They're like, you know who we need?
01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:06.800
Christian McCaffrey.
01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:08.319
I was like, okay, yeah.
01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:09.520
I mean, you don't say no to that.
01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:12.800
I understand it, but like I'm just saying, yeah, they're injury prone as fuck.
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:18.000
But yeah, I mean, so you you finished just to be clear, you finished with them at nine and eight?
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:19.359
No, I think we had 10 wins.
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:20.159
No.
01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:21.119
Yeah.
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:21.680
Ten?
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:22.479
Yeah.
01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:22.960
Oh.
01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:24.000
Oh, nine.
01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:24.479
Okay.
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:25.279
All right, yeah.
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:26.479
That's the only thing I would say.
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:31.439
So I don't know if Mac Jones is is Mac Jones gonna make four or five of those wins again.
01:24:32.079 --> 01:24:32.399
No.
01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:34.000
He sucks.
01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:36.800
I told you a long time ago he sucked when he was on the Patriots.
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:42.960
I think my exact quote was uh Mike, he's gonna look great in a baseball cap with a clipboard on the sidelines.
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.119
He's gonna be one of the better backups.
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:47.600
And this is when he was playing relatively well for the Patriots.
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.880
Um, it was one of my favorite, uh it was one of my favorite all-time predictions.
01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:52.159
So thanks for thanks for bringing that up.
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:52.720
You're welcome.
01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:53.520
It's when we can find debate.
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:57.279
Uh all right, Zach.
01:24:57.760 --> 01:24:58.640
AFC West.
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:00.079
Alrighty.
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:00.960
AFC West.
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:02.399
Let's just start with Kansas City.
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:04.319
Let's just get this shit out of the way right now.
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:07.199
Well, can we get like the shit out of the way first?
01:25:07.439 --> 01:25:09.600
Yeah, because he's gonna start week one.
01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:10.159
Okay.
01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:11.199
Debatable.
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:12.960
I'm not debating it.
01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:15.600
So it's kind of the whole thing.
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:16.880
All right.
01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:20.399
Well, I I assume you have them at a very low win win total.
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:22.960
What would you consider to be very low?
01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:25.119
When did you think Mahomes was coming back?
01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:25.920
I don't know.
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.600
Like week five, six, six, seven.
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:32.720
So I have so you probably have them at eight wins?
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:35.119
Nah, I'm at nine.
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:36.800
Okay, well, I have them at ten.
01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:37.840
Okay.
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:39.920
Okay, so you you also think that he's coming back again.
01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:41.600
You guys just angrily agreed with each other.
01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:44.720
Yeah, so ten, so ten, so ten and seven for the Chiefs.
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:46.960
You just described our relationship to it, T.
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:49.359
We angrily agree with each other, yes.
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:51.520
All right, uh, the Raiders.
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.359
Oh, three and fourteen.
01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:55.760
Just hot garbage ass.
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:56.800
That's what they are.
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.239
Mendoza, like he looks shady.
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:04.159
I am very I don't know.
01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:04.640
Is he?
01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:05.279
Is he not?
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:07.279
No, that was it was Kirk Cousins.
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:31.439
Well, whenever they decide to throw him in, I'm just so curious to see how he's actually gonna perform because yes, like Indiana had a historic season and it was a great run and a great story and all that, but there's nothing like there's nothing you can look at in his college career where you're like, Yep, that guy is definitely the number one overall pick.
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:38.960
He just lucked into just a shit draft to a team that needed a quarterback, and they're like, let's take the guy that just won the national championship.
01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:42.880
Like, yeah, but dude, he can he takes control of the game.
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:43.840
You know what?
01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:50.880
That like combat's like that, um, and this is not shitting on you because like I've heard it about like Mendoza uh at in general.
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:54.399
Like, oh, he he's a game manager.
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:55.760
This guy wants to win.
01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:57.600
He talks about dying for his brothers.
01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.399
That sounds a lot like Tim Tebow.
01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:06.560
Well, I know but he beat the Pittsburgh Seals in the playoff game.
01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:07.439
Right.
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:08.479
So you know what?
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:15.760
Maybe a year or two when he's actually starting, the Raiders will beat some team in the playoffs and then get their dicks kicked in by the three and fourteen?
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:16.319
Yeah.
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:20.159
I had them at seven and ten.
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:22.960
So five and twelve?
01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:26.079
Sure, I can accept five and twelve.
01:27:26.720 --> 01:27:28.159
Thank you, Almighty King.
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:36.000
You know, you when you say when we uh emphasize the fact that Kirk Cousins is going to be the starting quarterback, five and twelve.
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:39.039
Five and twelve is very much Kirk Cousins like.
01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:46.960
That means that he's gonna throw at least 10 touchdowns to Brock Bowers within the first four weeks before he gets injured or cut or bench.
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:48.239
I'm I'm here for that.
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:48.720
Yes.
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:50.880
Uh okay.
01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:52.239
The Chargers.
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:58.960
I I think Justin Herbert is softer than fucking baby shit.
01:27:59.119 --> 01:27:59.680
I always have.
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:00.560
It's true.
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:02.399
You've always been down on him historically.
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:06.960
I just uh and I think it's the wrong harball out there.
01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:18.960
However, my biggest problem if we're trying to pick a record for the Chargers right now is I don't think they've done anything to build an offense around their star quarterback at all.
01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:24.000
Uh so I I have them at nine and eight.
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:26.399
I have them at eight and nine.
01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:32.399
Alright, so you think seven wins is more probable than ten?
01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:33.520
Yes.
01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:41.439
Otherwise, otherwise I wouldn't have taken them at eight and nine.
01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:43.760
I think I I I just I don't know.
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:46.960
I don't know if I don't believe that, but I'll I'll give that to you.
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:49.039
Now give me Denver.
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:51.439
Uh 13 and 4.
01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:55.920
Um do I we'll just put him down for 12 and 5.
01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:59.920
That's I had them at 11 and 6, and they're not winning 14 fucking games.
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:01.119
Fuck that coach.
01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:04.000
And I I still don't even like Bill Nick Bo Nicks.
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:04.880
I hate him actually.
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:06.399
No, I don't I don't think so either.
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:14.239
I think it's yeah, I think it's a mix of a somewhat favorable schedule and um killer defense.
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:15.039
Yeah.
01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:16.479
All right.
01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:19.520
It's not really an impressive 13-4 in my eyes.
01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:22.399
I mean, you always it's 12 and 5 now, so we're that's fine.
01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:25.359
Again, I'm giving you my reasoning for my pick, Michael.
01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:26.479
So, you know.
01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:31.680
I don't so now it's I I don't think we look at it as a strong 12 and five.
01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:32.560
So there we are.
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:33.199
No.
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:34.720
No, we don't.
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:35.359
You didn't?
01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:40.239
I think I think you're uh uh just uh just uh put in my two cents there on those predictions.
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:49.520
I think I think that the most talented person that has anything to do with the NFL over the last 25 years is Kirk Cousins' agent.
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:53.760
I don't understand how that man keeps getting the contracts that he's getting.
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:58.720
I don't I don't understand how he ever did, but the fact that he's still on a contract, I mean it's just nuts to me.
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:02.960
Um that being said, I agree with everything you said about the Raiders.
01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:04.560
Uh I I don't know.
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:08.720
I I think it's that I want that Chargers experiment to work out.
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:13.199
Like I just want it to work out, so I'm gonna say that it's gonna.
01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:16.079
And they have this really sneaky thing that I look at every year.
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:19.439
Who's the team that travels the least amount of miles?
01:30:19.600 --> 01:30:22.239
And this year it is the Chargers.
01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:28.640
Being a Southern California team and not having to really go anywhere is a huge advantage, I think.
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:34.880
Um, they're not gonna really be put through the ringer, and they start their season with the potential for like a good amount of momentum.
01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:40.640
So I would I would have aired more on the the 10-11 wins for the Chargers, to be honest.
01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:43.680
Um, but otherwise, I'm pretty much in agreement with you guys.
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:49.119
And I've never seen two people agree with each other um that aggressively before.
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:56.319
Like you didn't sound like you were agreeing with each other, but you agreed with each other every step of the way right there on the on that division.
01:30:56.479 --> 01:30:57.840
So that was fun to listen to.
01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:00.479
But otherwise, yeah, great, great work, everybody.
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:09.439
Um, do you guys want to rattle off just we'll go MVP for MVP, we'll go offensive player of the year for offensive player of the year.
01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:10.960
We'll just like run through these really fast.
01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:13.439
Um can we start seeing as you started with?
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:16.479
All right, so you want to start with MVP, Zach?
01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:17.359
Sure.
01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:18.960
I I had Joe Burrow.
01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:22.239
I had Matthew, I have Matthew Stafford.
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:32.239
I mean, and the best thing is like I so I actually think that the Rams like are gonna make a push for a perfect season.
01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:33.840
I think they'll finish 16-1.
01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:39.600
Uh and I think Stafford will win MVP despite the fact not being the best player on his team either.
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:44.880
It's just they always give it to a quarterback and they'll have a great team and all that.
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:48.960
I just don't see Burrow getting MVP votes or becoming MVP.
01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:51.920
Like they're gonna have to really play out of their mind.
01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:55.760
And just they can't do it, especially under that coach, too.
01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:03.119
Okay, so if I give you this one, will you give me the offensive uh player of the year?
01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:04.159
Yeah, sure.
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:05.680
Okay, okay.
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:08.479
Wow, you guys pronounce Drake May funny, but go ahead.
01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:13.760
Matt, who do you want to be the MVP?
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:15.119
Drake May.
01:32:16.479 --> 01:32:18.720
Can I offer an alternative?
01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:20.239
Who you got?
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:21.920
Oh yeah?
01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:22.960
Come on, buddy.
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:24.079
Come on, buddy.
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.079
He's on the cover of the game, friend.
01:32:26.319 --> 01:32:27.199
Let's see it happen.
01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:29.279
He's already got a signature throw.
01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:31.680
He's already got a signature throw, Matt.
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:32.239
Come on.
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:32.800
Let's do it.
01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:33.520
Let's do it for real.
01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:34.479
You got a quarter or something?
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:36.399
Let's flip a coin and we'll go with it.
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.920
I don't, I don't, I don't want Caleb Williams to be to be my named MVP.
01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:41.039
Oh, you already did.
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:41.680
Yeah, you do.
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:42.720
Yeah, you do.
01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:43.439
Yeah.
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:45.199
Tails never failed, baby.
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:46.960
Hence it's Caleb.
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:48.159
Tails, it's Drake.
01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:48.640
Guess what?
01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:49.760
It's Drake May.
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:52.239
Um he threw the coin away.
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:54.800
He had me the whole way.
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:55.359
That's fine.
01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:56.399
Make it Drake May.
01:32:56.479 --> 01:32:56.720
That's cool.
01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:57.359
I'm good with it.
01:32:57.760 --> 01:32:59.119
Um, we don't need those points.
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:00.880
Uh, we'll be fine.
01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:02.560
Um, offensive player of the year.
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:03.199
Go ahead, guys.
01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:04.159
Jameer Gibbs.
01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:05.760
Mike gets the pick.
01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:07.760
Jameer Gibbs.
01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:08.560
That's it.
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:09.279
Good pick.
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:10.159
Yeah, that's it.
01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:11.439
That's all I need to say.
01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:15.199
No, I I love the pick.
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:16.720
I think it's great.
01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:21.920
All the production that he's had over the last three years, and now he's not splitting with David Montgomery anymore.
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:24.079
Like, he is he's he's just gonna.
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:26.640
I think his touchdowns are gonna go up.
01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:27.279
I love it.
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:28.000
I'm here for it.
01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:31.199
He's also the uh betting favorite for um offensive player of the year.
01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:34.000
By like a lot, yeah, very much.
01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:42.880
I'm down to just take the next man up and take Bijan, or if you want to try to like shoot the gap, maybe Jackson Smith and Jigba.
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:43.760
I I don't know.
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:44.560
What do you think?
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:49.119
So I I I understand why you wouldn't say AJ Brown, but I'm gonna say AJ Brown.
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:51.600
Um, no, honestly God, uh I'm sorry.
01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:58.319
I I think honestly, if we want to take an outside shot here because they have the clear favorite, I think Jamar Chase could have a big, big season this year.
01:33:58.560 --> 01:33:59.600
Okay, that's fine.
01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:00.079
Let's do it.
01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:00.479
Let's do it.
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:02.560
I I'd like to support that happening.
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:03.279
That would be fun for me.
01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:04.640
So let's let's call it Jamar Chase.
01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:06.560
I think they're gonna beat us, but that's fine.
01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:07.279
That's fine.
01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:08.479
Um okay.
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:09.920
Uh go ahead, guys.
01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:11.920
Miles Garrett.
01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:12.720
Zach Garrett.
01:34:13.359 --> 01:34:14.000
Any objection there?
01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:14.560
Yeah, nope no.
01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:17.600
We're just getting scooped here.
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:18.159
Yeah, dude.
01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:19.680
Why would we let him pick first on this one?
01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:20.640
We should have alternated.
01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:21.680
Doesn't matter.
01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:24.159
It's so much harder to get these points, to be honest.
01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.760
Like it's it's actually kind of rare that that we get these.
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:28.720
Um, we'll see.
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:29.840
Who are you thinking?
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:31.119
Say it on the country.
01:34:31.279 --> 01:34:33.199
One, two, three, Aiden Hutchinson.
01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:36.800
I guess that's probably the best next best.
01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:38.560
Uh hear me out.
01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:39.199
Hear me out.
01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:40.479
His line is stacked.
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:43.039
He's gonna get much more free this year than he did last year.
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:46.960
That I think they're gonna run away with their with a lot of wins uh in a bad schedule.
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:50.000
I I bad schedules mean bad offensive lines.
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:50.800
That's what that means.
01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:54.239
So I think Aiden's got a real shot at doing something special this year.
01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:55.760
Okay, fine.
01:34:57.039 --> 01:35:00.720
I don't really have any any other anyone to like mount a defense against you.
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:02.399
I think it's probably gonna be Miles Garrett.
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.479
Um, what about Will Anderson?
01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:05.840
Texans.
01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:12.960
He made a case for it last year, and that Texans defense is in in good is in good nick, I think.
01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:15.760
So I I mean there's Max Crosby.
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:16.800
I'm down to do that.
01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.680
I'm down, I'm down to do no, I don't think Crosby this year.
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:21.119
I think he's gotten too much on social media.
01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:22.800
I don't like that from defensive players.
01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:31.039
Um, but I'm down to do Anderson because I think that CJ Stroud's gonna get that offense off the field a lot, and more plays means more points towards that vote.
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:32.159
All right, fuck it.
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:33.359
We'll take Will Anderson then.
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:36.000
He's the next betting favorite, so I'll take it.
01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:37.760
Um, all right, go ahead.
01:35:38.239 --> 01:35:39.520
Uh wait, who's next?
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:39.840
Sorry.
01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.399
Uh offensive rookie of the year.
01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:45.439
So I I picked uh Carnell Tate.
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:50.800
I just think it's it's it's usually uh that this happens.
01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:52.720
It's a good player on a bad team.
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:56.640
I don't think there are gonna be many teams that are worse than the Tennessee Titans.
01:35:56.800 --> 01:35:58.640
Um so I'm here for that.
01:35:58.800 --> 01:35:59.119
Zach?
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:01.039
Yep, completely agree.
01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:02.239
That's good.
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:03.920
I wanted Jeremiah Love, to be honest.
01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:05.840
Um, I'll I'll give Jeremiah Love.
01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:09.680
The only other thing I was gonna say isn't he out of those first four weeks?
01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:12.640
He's got like a high ankle sprain, I think.
01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:16.560
I think I don't think that that's gonna take him out for that long, right?
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:17.439
Yes, I doubt it.
01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:19.520
First four weeks are food gazing anyway.
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:20.079
Yeah, it's fine.
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:20.800
It's true.
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.079
Having said that, then Dozo's not a bad option.
01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:26.800
He's like not a starter though.
01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:29.279
Like he can't he's going to be though.
01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:32.000
I know, but like you're doing a lot of predicting there.
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:34.880
I I don't think he's gonna win I don't think he's gonna win rookie of the year.
01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:35.359
Sorry.
01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:36.159
All right.
01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:40.960
Um pretty sure Jeremiah Love's out until like October.
01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:43.760
Yeah, so is my ankle.
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:44.399
No.
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:47.199
Uh I mean that's fine.
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:49.199
I still think he's gonna win rookie of the year.
01:36:49.439 --> 01:36:52.319
Um okay, we'll take Jeremiah Love.
01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:53.359
All right, moving right along.
01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:54.880
Defensive rookie of the year.
01:36:55.199 --> 01:36:57.279
Zach, Arvell Reese, any objection?
01:36:57.439 --> 01:36:57.920
None at all.
01:36:58.079 --> 01:36:58.640
Love that talk.
01:36:59.279 --> 01:37:00.239
Want to tell us why?
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:01.680
Do you want me to tell you why?
01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:02.399
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:03.439
No, I don't want to.
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:03.840
Great.
01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:05.680
We'll talk yes, so please do.
01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:10.079
Uh being paste, sent.
01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:15.680
I think he's just he he's just the the the bona fide defensive uh draft pack.
01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:23.840
Like we we all uh everyone saw him, and we're like, okay, he's like I guess just gonna be a fucking killer, and I don't see any reason why that that's not gonna play out.
01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:26.239
Thanks, Zack.
01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:29.520
Just be happy, I'm agree with you.
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:33.520
The Bears safety.
01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:44.720
I well, I mean, I think like the betting money goes to the white safety, he's either gonna be a complete bust or he's gonna be the best fucking player in the league next year.
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:48.079
It's boomer bust time, baby.
01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:51.920
He's a white safety until we get DEI out of football.
01:37:52.079 --> 01:37:52.479
I'm just kidding.
01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:52.880
I'm sorry.
01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:55.680
My only thing is Ruben Bain Jr.
01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:58.239
is gonna be an animal down there in Tampa.
01:37:58.319 --> 01:37:59.520
He's a beast.
01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:00.399
All right.
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:02.399
I mean, I'm willing to go with you.
01:38:02.479 --> 01:38:03.520
You went with me for drink, Bane.
01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:04.399
I'm riding with you.
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:05.520
All right, great.
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:06.560
Fuck it.
01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:07.039
Let's do it.
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:07.760
These are fun points.
01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:08.880
Dylan Feynman.
01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:11.039
Um take Bane Jr.
01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:13.359
Coach of the Year.
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:16.640
You guys are up.
01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:19.039
John Harbaugh is my pick.
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:22.000
But I don't know about Zach.
01:38:22.479 --> 01:38:29.680
I uh so see, I think the Cowboys are gonna win their division, and so I think it's gonna be Schottenheimer.
01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:51.279
You I'm not saying that necessarily he's gonna be like a great coach or anything, but like I think they'll somehow win the division, sneak past the Eagles somehow, some way, and the voting committee will be like, oh wow, like yeah, and then and then Jerry Jones will sit there and be like, see, like, look, I made the right hiring choice.
01:38:52.880 --> 01:38:54.960
Okay, that's good logic.
01:38:55.279 --> 01:39:02.319
I mean, like the the Harbor picks, obviously, very I think that's the most logical one, of course.
01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:05.279
But so why the fuck would we pick it when we have first choice?
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:05.840
You're right.
01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:07.199
Let's just give them the point.
01:39:07.439 --> 01:39:08.079
Good on you.
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:10.000
Yeah, let's go with Schottenheimer.
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:10.640
I guess let's go.
01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:18.239
I was gonna make a case for Jesse Minter, but we'll take Harbaugh.
01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:19.439
If you guys are gonna take him, it's fine.
01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:20.560
Yeah, excellent.
01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:23.920
You know, the point is to fucking win here, Zach.
01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:25.439
Okay, now we did it!
01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:27.520
No, first coach fired.
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:28.399
Oh right.
01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:32.000
I have Zach Taylor, and I'm overruling your picks.
01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:33.119
I'm overruling your picks.
01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:35.840
Dude, I had the Vikings going one and sixteen.
01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:37.359
I was gonna say Kevin O'Connell.
01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:37.920
Nope.
01:39:38.079 --> 01:39:38.399
Nope.
01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:39.840
Fucking Zach Taylor.
01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:50.000
Uh because if Burrow does get hurt, or if they if they start off their usual one and three and everybody's healthy, I think that they'll fire them and they'll let Burrow go on the run.
01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:52.319
Right, but like you're also you have Burrow.
01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:54.319
You were gonna have Burrow as your MVP.
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:55.760
Yeah, but I didn't take that to that.
01:39:56.079 --> 01:39:56.960
But you were going to.
01:39:57.119 --> 01:39:58.000
Yeah, but I didn't.
01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:00.159
So I'm just here with the facts.
01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:03.199
Uh I think Burrow could play the entire year.
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:11.199
And if they start slow, and he still plays well, but their defense can't stop anybody, they're gonna fire the head coach because this is what he does four years in a row.
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:15.279
I can see the logic, just putting it out there.
01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:18.800
Yeah, it's the same logic that I use, Dave, for arguing for Dan Quinn.
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:22.319
I think if they start slow, he was a placeholder to begin with, they're gonna get him out of there.
01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:24.000
Somebody less bald, the more attractive.
01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:25.680
It's not, it's not gonna be Dan Quinn.
01:40:25.840 --> 01:40:28.479
It's they're not, it's it's you gotta think about the ownership structure.
01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:29.680
They're not, they love him over there.
01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:30.560
They're not gonna fire him first.
01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:31.279
They're not gonna fire him.
01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:32.880
He was just a placeholder for them.
01:40:33.039 --> 01:40:35.920
You can pick, you can pick between Todd Bowles and Aaron Glenn.
01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:40.000
Um I I have to refuse on on uh on Dan Quinn.
01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:43.840
Todd Bowles.
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Great.
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Settled.
01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:48.640
God really hope Dan Quinn's not the first one fired next time.
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.039
If it's Dan Quinn, I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:53.279
It's not gonna be, don't worry.
01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:56.239
Um right when we get off this podcast.
01:40:56.399 --> 01:41:02.720
Breaking news! Dan Quinn caught sleeping with Diana Rossini.
01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:06.319
Um, fired by the gets promoted.
01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:09.920
Oh boy.
01:41:10.079 --> 01:41:10.960
All right, well, we did it.
01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:11.359
We did it.
01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:13.680
We we we predicted, we came, we saw, we predicted.
01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:19.199
Um, we are recording this, I think, a week before it's actually gonna get released.
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:22.159
So if anything really crazy happens, uh sorry.
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:26.880
Um, we're gonna release this week last year's prediction show just to show how right or wrong we were.
01:41:27.039 --> 01:41:34.479
Uh, then next week, um, in our timeline, just to keep up with the Doctor Who of it all, in our timeline, you'll be listening to this a week from now.
01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:38.000
And then uh we got a special interview to kick the season off, I think.
01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:42.640
And um, then we're gonna be fucking neck deep, gentlemen, in football season.
01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:45.199
And I gotta tell you, there's no place I'd rather be.
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.520
I cannot wait to mainline football this coming uh two Sundays from now.
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:52.079
It's gonna be absolutely unbelievable.
01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:56.800
Well, two two two I'm gonna you don't mainline on Wednesdays, you get one game.
01:41:56.960 --> 01:42:01.600
You in order to really do the heroine of football, it has to be Sunday.
01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:04.560
Um, but yeah, I'm very excited.
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:08.640
Um, apparently we play football every single fucking day of the week now, which I don't know, it's hard to argue with.
01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:09.600
I kind of love it.
01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:12.960
Um, the NFL season is on the horizon.
01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:14.000
We predicted.
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:16.640
We're married to these predictions now, for better or worse.
01:42:16.720 --> 01:42:18.239
They're our old ball and chain.
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:21.840
And uh I can't wait to talk to you guys about football all season long.
01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:23.279
Thank you guys so much for listening.
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This has been this.