ANTHOLOGIES ATTACK! - Allegro Non Troppo

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Weird in Wade were welcome back midnight viewers to Anthologies Attack.
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I'm Father Alone and with me back from his exclusive
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three year tour of Europe, Scandinavia and the Subcontinent. My
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co host mister Antonio Lapour. How are you, Antonio?
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Yeah?
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You see I was in the Beds and Clay Drive
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big Hey, how are you? Wasn't that cartoon back in
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the from it was like the Hunters Club or whatever,
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and it was like the old British guy and he
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had the mustache.
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Yeah. Was that part of like Fractured Fairy Tales, the
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Bullwinkle and the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. It was a
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segment from that, right.
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Yeah, that's it. And he would always started, I was
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Abel Clongo. We're just kind of go.
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From that quite okay, tonight we are taking a look
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at another animated anthology. Our last one was Fantasia, and
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this one from director Bruno Bozetto could be seen as
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a direct response, a spoof the satire to that film
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from nineteen seventy six. We are discussing the cult classic
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Allegro non Tropo.
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Where are they all going into another world? Fantastic triple
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I will be filled with color. Laughter comes in all
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shapes and size too. With sociated music, expect the unexpected
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Legro non great Peachi.
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A Legro non Tropo released in March twelfth and nineteen
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seventy six. Not the first time I saw it? Was
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this the first time you saw it?
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Yeah?
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This was the very first time I've seen this picture,
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and I just watched it this afternoon.
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It was something else.
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Did you have HBO when you were a kid?
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I did?
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Was it on it a lot?
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No? However, if you remember, HBO was always sent by
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the hour, sometimes the half hour, but if they were
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starting a movie, it generally was on the hour.
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That's right. It would give you like twenty minutes of
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if like Star Wars entered at two twenty, you'd have
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ten minutes of like previews, commercials and like ePK really exactly.
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So if you had your movie ended at nine to
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thirty five, you had twenty five minutes to phill to
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get to ten o'clock to start the next feature. They
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would throw on little shorts and little videos, and they
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one of their animated shorts was the Balero sequence from
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this movie. So I had seen that sequence dozens upon
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dozens of times before I had seen this movie. In fact,
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I thought it was simply just another short film, like
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all of those Canadian board that the Board of Canada.
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I remember all of those short.
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Films, Oh, like the Snowman.
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The Big Snit, or the Back, the Cordell, Barker or Baker,
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all of those amazing shorts coming down from here.
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Snowman is the one I remember the most.
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Well, Yeah, it's that that haunting female over that equally
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haunting melancholic animation. Speaking of animation, when I first got
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to Los Angeles, I became a projectionist. My mentor named
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Chris Avanni, Projectionist Extraordinaire, who showed me this film on
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video tape, knowing how much I loved animation and the
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fact that I hadn't seen it, and he said, you're
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gonna love this. If you've seen Fantasica, it's a direct
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response to Fantasia. And the thing that the thing that
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I loved about the movie was that I was expecting
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a movie that just sort of gently pokes fun at Fantasia.
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This really is the lead character when he's introducing our
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film here basically calls it a Fantasia before he gets
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a call from the lawyers telling him he needs to
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knock that shit off because there's a Prisney or a
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Grisney on the phone.
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Yeah, which is it? Was that? What did you say
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about that guy? Is you gotta love that jacket?
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It is a fantastic jacket. It would make a fantastic jacket.
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Hell of a wallpaper.
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Yeah, it's just like it was funny, like a Hollywood calling.
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He apologizes, Hey, sorry, guys, it's it's Disney. I are
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Pisney or Wisney or whatever it is. But the way
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he's in, you know, Disney made me do this. And
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they go outside and the farmer like unpacks the old
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ladies from the chicken coop.
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Or whatever the hell that's the thing. So that sequence happens,
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The lawsuit threatened sequence happens, right, and my friend turns
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to me as if I'm going to be delighted at
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how they're taking the piss out of Disney here, and
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I'm like, okay. And then they go to get the orchestra, which,
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as you're saying, is a pen of like old Italian grannies.
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It was so weird.
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They're at the pound basically, and then they round up
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these old women, pack them up and bring them to
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the theater and they're the orchestra.
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And then they've got the artists chained up, like in
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the Dungeon artist.
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The animator, because it's that animated films are made on
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the fly by one human.
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With a magnimicent mustache.
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It's it's just so out there, and I'm like, is
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this Italian comedy? Is this what? Like? What what it is?
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Like?
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Oh?
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Yeah?
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Like everything. That's the thing about Italian cinema, like Italian cinema,
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that there's one unifying theme in Italian cinema.
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It's weird, is wacky. I don't know how I was
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to put it.
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Everything is very dream like basically, I think everything is
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a dream.
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There tends to be an absurdist quality to nearly every
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piece of entertainment I've seen coming out of it.
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Yeah, And I mean I took Italian cinema in school
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the way back when, and I got all my best
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you know. I like Fellini. I love eight and a Half,
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But eight and a half. I love eight and a
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half because it's a fever dream about a horning middle
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aged director. I kind of know what that's like, you know,
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but it doesn't making any sense, but it's really cool
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to watch, and every time you watch it, you're gonna
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get something new out of it, you know. But still
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they're weird. I remember there was way back in the
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nineties and I loved Cemetery.
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Man.
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It was an Italian picture and it was about oh
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and it was a great movie. And you watch it
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and by the end of it, it's just got this
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batshit crazy ending where he's sucking in a snow globe
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and the mentally challenged caretakers that it's like, what, I
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just Italian movies, man, Like, the most straightforward thing you
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can get is a horror.
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Dela more to de la mare is the actual title
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of the of the film and Italian.
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Yeah, but his name was like Oper de la morte
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or something like that too.
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In the movie, Yeah, de la Morte de la Moore.
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It's a great movie.
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Man, it is a fantastic movie. Wild we overlooked from
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nineteen ninety four. Yeah, because you know, in ninety four
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no one gives it shit about zombies a but.
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Like Italian cinema always has this, like you said, that
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absurdist the one I remember, the one I remember who
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was the one with Anthony Anthony Quinn and he's he's
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the circus strong man.
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Is that Lestrata?
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No?
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Right, yeah, I think it Istrata?
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Yeah, I liked that a lot.
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Name some more Italian directors.
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Well the other the other guys say, uh, and what's
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his name?
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Antonio Michelangelo Antonioni.
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Yeah, micg'langel Antonioni did.
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Blow up fucking a. Yeah, just in a class by itself,
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that film, and hard to quantify what's so good about it?
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You know? Di Palma basically remade that film.
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Yeah, that was where they go there. DiPalma remade that film.
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But de Palma remade that film. Obama took that original
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film and then made a movie. Yet it right, you know,
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that is logical, right, you know, and it's and it's
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a thriller and it's just blow up isn't that at.
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All, man, It's all mood.
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It's all mood, it's all style, it's all cool. It
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doesn't resolve itself. The end is like two minds playing
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invisible tennis like it's it doesn't make a lick of
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fucking sense, and it doesn't matter, because it's just twenty
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minutes of mid sixties cool with awesome suits and guys
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smoking cigarettes and girls of mini skirts and you're just like,
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you know what with the.
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How the kids put him in the vibe that movie.
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Pasolini, Pierre Paulo Posli did one of the coolest Jesus
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movies ever, The Gospel of Saint Matthew, and he shoots
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it like a documentary and it's also like a dream sequence.
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Everything is really floaty and this and that, and then
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he cuts those.
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Kind of handheld generate things and I like almost like
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interview shots and stuff like that, and you know it,
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Scorsese like, that's what made him want to do Last
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Temptation was that style. And I'm pretty sure his new
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one coming out with with Spider Man, with Spider Man.
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Andrew Garfield playing like a modern Jesus whatever.
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Of course he's been talking about that movie for one
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hundred years, and he wants to do Jesus with guys
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in business suits and stuff.
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But he's gonna shoot it.
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Just like that Passolini movie.
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I guarantee it.
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No mean all of your Italian choices are so high minded.
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That's what I saw in College Man, and then the
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other at the other end.
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You know you've got you, You've got the king of
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of all movies.
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You've got Dino de Larentis produce their extraordinaire, that is true.
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Who gave me just a bunch of schlock that I
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love to death When I was a kid. You know
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how many times I watched the The Hercules movies with Lufereigno.
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But of course the greatest Italian filmmaker of them all,
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he is one of the greatest film makers whoever walked
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the face of the earth. Then called Sergia Leoti, creator
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the greatest Western of all time, the Good, the bet
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and the Ugly, and the other two greatest Westerns of
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the of all time. Fist full of dollars and for
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a few dollars more, Sir Leoni is God.
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Once upon a time in the West.
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Once upon a time in the West.
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Fucking Harmonica, Hello, Yeah, and how do.
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You take and how do you take the quintessential bug guy,
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mister mister morality Hollywood, young Abraham Lincoln, Henry Fahnda, and
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then just make him the worst villain you ever fucking
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saw in your life. And it's magnificent. And somewhere Harrison
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Ford is smoking a big fat joint watching that movie
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on Turner classic movie going, Man, why did I ever
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get to do one of these things? Because the the equivalent,
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you know, that's every Fondo was that and just oh,
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I gotta go watch that against a few years since
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I was, since I since I've seen Once upon a
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Time in.
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The West, since since I said the title, all I
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can all I can picture are Henry Fonda's steely blue eyes,
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his his his once comforting, cloud like eyes now steely
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and psychotic.
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Yeah, and leathery, O, leathery.
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You know who co wrote that movie, mister Dario Argento.
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And that's the other big name in Italian cinema, The
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Suspiria Daria.
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Argento, The Seven Flies On on Gray Velvet, the Bird
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with the Crystal plumage. If there's a wacky title, Dario's
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he's gunning for it.
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And Sire of what's her name?
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Was Asia Argento.
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Rgento, big giant crush from two thousand and one of mine.
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Oh yeah, oh crush to this day since since late
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e on her she is something else entirely and yeah.
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So fine. She drove for him anymore, dame to death.
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Ah, I'm you cannot blame her for his troubled brain.
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God bless I know. I'm sorry, God bless him.
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But man, she's fine. Fuddy too though, absolutely nutty, but
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like has is really rich. It's fun to take a
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deep dive in because they have a really unique perspective
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on cinema. Everything, like you said, it's absurd, it's dreamlike,
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it's wacky, it's sexy, and and when the violence works,
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it's really fun.
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I often wonder with comedies from other countries. Now clearly
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visual gangs and slapstick just translate universally.
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it comes to slapstick, which we get a heap and
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help in here in a legoran On trip, I'm wondering
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Are they guffine? Are they Are they laughing out loud
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at this humor?
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Yeah? I don't know. In nineteen seventy six, maybe I
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don't like. I don't know. There's one thing I know
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about italiabovies, and ever think any of them are funny
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intentionally anyways.
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about most American sitcoms. Are people laughing at this, you know?
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think it's funny or they know that that's what the
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people think is funny. I don't know, because there are
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some jokes that work here. Obviously we're giggling about the
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premise more than the execution, which sure I wrote.
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Down one gag that works really well as the guy
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opening the bottle of champagne in the one of the
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live action sequence he pops of champagne, or and a
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not's a lady over in jenzl Bla hospitals.
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But the editing is good, and the gag works, and
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the gag plays.
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You know, now, when we watched Fantasia, we kind of
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bemoaned the deems tailorness of it all.
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Oh my god, I was missing deams tailor watching.
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This, you you wanted deems to come out and hit
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you to to the to the next piece and not
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just want to watch a ridiculous piece of comedy meant
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for nothing and nobody and not really linking anything at all.
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this film without the live action. There's there's a cut
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where they just have sort of clay lettering telling you
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the name of the next piece of music, and then
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it just goes right into it. It's ten minutes shorter.
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There's only ten Yeah, can you believe that? No, because
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I believe there's there's still some of it, like the
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setup in the end, because there kind of has to
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be the ending with because that there's so much live
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action animation sort of interaction there at the end. Okay,
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you know, but I guess my point is, or what
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I'm wondering is, would do you think it would have
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played better without?
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of it is a little bit of it I think
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would would give it some flavor, But they just went
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overboard with it.
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It's just like these gags would just go alone and
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on and on and on. It was just like, you know,
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you can do one gag and then just move on
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and you're fine.
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You didn't need to go this whole thing. I like,
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there was like subplots with the waitress girl and the conductor,
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and I don't even think it was.
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I know it's meant to be stream of conscience, but
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like it was making Magical Mystery Tour look like, you know,
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thirty rocks, because that's how vegans.
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It's very unfocused and all over the place. But you know,
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those those tend to be strengths in Italian films, so
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I can't really fault them for that, and I don't
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fault them at all for even trying all of the
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sort of physical comedy that's going on. I just wish
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it was all edited by half. At least if each
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of the segments were half their current length, I think
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it would make the point and move on. Maybe that's
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a twenty twenty four sensibility that I just want to
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get to shit already. That attitude doesn't carry over to
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the shorts. By the way, I'm perfectly at ease letting
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them play out as long or as short as they
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want to be. They're they're each little pieces of wonder,
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but this linking device we The joke to me ended
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with We've rounded up these grannies and there are arts
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and I think.
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A lot of because my reaction to this was up
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and down and like that. The live action stuff takes
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away from it. It just kind of takes away from me.
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And it's just, man, this just reminds me of some
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college kid and you know his production three class. He's
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the weird one, you know, or never in the Doors
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movie where like you know Jim Morrison's film class. Yeah,
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and you know he just makes his wacky thing and
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just random stuff edited together and him reading poetry and
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Hitler and YadA, YadA, YadA.
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That's what I get from it. Here's some random stuff
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will be weird.
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And I didn't quite I agree with you about that.
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I don't think we I think we need it just
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a little bit, just just a smidge a scoche, as
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they say, because it.
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Wasn't even like verbal gag, like it wasn't even dialogue
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guys when they were all visual guys.
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Like okay, I will say because I said when when
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the movie began, and my friend said, it's this vicious
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takedown of Disney, and I was like, what the hell
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are you even talking about. Once they rounded the grannies up,
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the lead character does effectively turn to the camera and say,
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would Disney do this? And that made me, yeah, so
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fucking hard.
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Yeah, well they kid have a bunch of grannies.
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Yeah, but this is all just prelude. It as Fantasia
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as it is. It really is. I'm shocked at how
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how much it is. It's not necessarily in the same sequence.
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It isn't an analogue. Not all of them are one.
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For one sort of question.
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There are moments definitely, the the Bolero with.
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All that ballero, and the first segment definitely oh yeah, yeah,
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because the first segment is sent to Claude Debussa's prelude.
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Oh I'm not it's it's basically the Fawn. I'm not
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going to mangle the French here. But the story we're
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given is this one. It's it's not the right of Spring,
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that's the dinosaur sequence from Fantasia. It's the we know
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what it is. It's all the satyrs and the we
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talked about it. They're they're sort of very gentle back andal,
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but here we we get a satyr who is still
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lusty and full of virility in his mind, but he
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is an elderly one who can't find mate. And and
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that's basically it. It's him trying to trying to snare
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a woman, and every time he almost does so, he
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gets a look of such menace and and and fright,
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it's frightening. It's a frightening look.
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Yeah, it's bad because I'm just like, you know, I'm single.
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You know I'm not I'm not pretty chicken anymore. I'm like,
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maybe here's getting lighter, I can say with the eyes
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with this morning, little fucker. But I think he's his
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own worst enemy because maybe if he just be himself
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one of those hot nude Italian cartoons, ldies would would
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pay him mine. But instead he's constantly trying to change
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his appearance and do everything to like, you know, make
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himself look phony and younger. There's a point where he
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looked like like Rudy Giuliani, sweating down with like his
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hair dye sweating down his face, where he's you know,
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give him one of those stupid press conferences the last election.
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Yeah he has some helpful Woodland friends who jump in
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and fucking make him up and yeah, make him make
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him look attractive to the ladies and it's working. And
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then the dummy jumps into the fucking lake. Yeah you're
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doing SADR. I'm on you.
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I feel bad, but I was just like, I look boobs.
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Oh yes, let's let's talk about that. The Italians are
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not shy Italian He yeah, there's no there's no strategically
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placed hair cascading down a female satyr's breasts in this one.
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These are just nude human women running around and they're free,
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and they're hippies, and they're seen in some cases.
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And and he just get and by the end of
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a boob tree.
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And like yeah, is he completely wigging out?
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Uh? And all of a sudden it's like, oh, look,
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I've been walking around on a giant boom all along. Well.
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What's funny is with each dejection he gets smaller and
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smaller until he effectively is is is doomed to walk
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the geography of a woman's body. We've all been there, though,
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we've all been there. I think I think I might
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be there now. This was great. I loved this one.
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I mean it's cute, it's cute and bite and and
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and has that slight melancholic flavor that tends to come
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out of Europe, even what for especially for entertainment that
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was at least once considered just for children.
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I'd like to see a mastered, remastered version of it
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because like what you know, what you can? It's available
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just on YouTube and it looks awful, So like, I
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really like to see those colors pop and stuff, because
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I know that's gotta be brilliant because it because it's
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so drab in the black and white sequences, so.
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I'm imagining the color must be gorgeous and stuff.
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But man, it's not. You know, it doesn't. It doesn't
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their their transfer isn't great. So I love to see
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it new.
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I have myself have not seen a newer transfer of it,
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but but I didn't watch the YouTube version of it.
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I have a version of it that I digitally I
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got a long time ago. But I have seen this
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on the big screen with a thirty five millimeter print
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that was dubbed, so you it was unusual to hear
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the voice actor for the for the English language dubbed
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version is doing an Italian accent. It's very disconcerted.
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Hey, hello, welcome.
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It's like that about like that, like what why why
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don't do that. So that's the version I saw initially. Whatever,
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when we're talking about let's move on to divortion and
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to then divorce acts Slavonic dance number seven, Opus forty six.
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This one is very brief and I okay, it's look,
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it's very impressionistic. It's like a caveman who or a
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cave dweller rather, because it's not really a man. It's
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more of this weirdo creature who everyone in his community
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just copies everything he does, right, Yeah, and so he
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starts doing more and more Atlandish things than they do
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more and more Atlantish things. I'm sure there's some socio
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political commentary going on here, because sure.
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Because it ends up being being all fascists.
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By the end of it, which they know a thing
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or two about. In Italy, Yes, they know a thing
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or two about that.
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He even had an Italian red skull. At one point,
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Duce No one run around calling him old duche.
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They did quietly.
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What did you say, Duce, Yes, it looked like a
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sesame street cartoon.
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A little bit. What was the guy of the cup
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that was like animal on the glass and like the
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glass when we're on you can see the little guy
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run around the glass.
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I don't know the character's name, but I do know
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the character you're talking about.
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Yeah, that's what it kind of reminded me of a
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little bit.
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Yeah, we should point out, like Fantasia, the styles of
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animation change wildly from Peace to Pece, and that's very welcome,
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but in no way copying any of the Disney style.
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Like I say that Disney style changes from piece to piece,
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but did it really It just got either more realistic
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or more impressionistic or more sort of cartoony, but it
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was still that beautiful painted style. This feels like different animators.
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Yeah, and it's real and it's real, like it's not
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super complicated or anything like that.
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And you can definitely see they don't have Disney money animated.
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But then you know, neither the Yellow Submarine and they
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made that in six months and for like for three
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books in England, and that thing is a masterpiece.
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So I don't know, I think, well, I'm in no
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way comparing the quality of the animation between them and Disney.
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I think this is just as good as Disney. It's
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a whole other thing, the whole other thing charming.
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But it doesn't have that production value.
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That Disney has right it. All of this animation feels
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like Disney would have done one more pass on everything.
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They have one more layer to make it beautiful. But
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part of its charm is it's sort of rough hun quality,
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I think, although.
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The animation really takes a good nicely turned the bolo sequence.
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Though, Oh it's it's unparalleled there, you.
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Know, it's really nice in the bolo sequence.
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And in a lot of the effects. We'll get to that. Yeah, okay,
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so the Slavonic dance, Yes, they do become fascist basically.
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So he starts abusing himself and they start abusing themselves,
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which is pretty funny because everyone loves somebody smacking themselves
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in the head. But everyone he gets. He's getting angry
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and angrier that they're becoming more and more like him.
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But then here's the thing. So then they effectively turn
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into the army, some fascist army, and he tries to
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lead them by jumping off a cliff, hoping they'll they will,
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like lemmings, follow him over, but then they don't. He
491
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.440
comes back up and then they moon him. That's the end.
492
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.160
What's the.
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Commentary I think is that like, yeah, people will follow
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the lunatic to a point. You know, they're gonna always
495
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come to the point where where the guys like, all right,
496
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:16.359
we've had this guy.
497
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:19.440
Yeah, I can see that. So is that a turning
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point for society? Hopefully they'll stop their fascistic ways, even
499
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though they're all mooning in Unison.
500
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.759
And then and the Italy elected like was Loudi's granddaughter, so.
501
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:31.400
This one was.
502
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.279
All fairness. When I was in high school or something,
503
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they had a porn star on their in their.
504
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.319
Parliament, so I remember her. She was, she was magnificent. Yes,
505
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proud of Italy at that time. I'm also proud of Italy.
506
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.279
For our next segment, as you mentioned, Maurice Ravel's or
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00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.440
is it Morris, we used the English name English version Morris,
508
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:57.160
It's Revel's Balro. This is the literal centerpiece of the movie.
509
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:01.000
I remembered it for some reason being the closing segment
510
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.039
of the movie, but that just maybe because of my
511
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:08.359
familiarity with this. This is the tale of a astronaut
512
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.480
and a bottle of Coca Cola. It begins with an
513
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.160
astronaut throwing a bottle of coke that still has a
514
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.160
bit at the bottom, and then they blast off, leaving
515
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.160
it there, and then we watch as the little speck
516
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.480
of coca cola becomes animate and then sentient and then
517
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.599
crawls out, and then we watch as life evolves in
518
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:35.480
many varied forms from this initial bottle of coke. And
519
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.519
because Balero is a march, you can imagine this is
520
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.680
a progression forward of evolution. Just this is just like
521
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.720
the right of spring from Fantasia. It just they keep
522
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:49.640
going though, yes exactly, and they go in wackier ways.
523
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:54.839
None of these creatures, these are not dinosaurs. This isn't
524
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:55.839
Earth until it is.
525
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:01.079
Yeah, Like they're not dinosaurs until they are, and eventually
526
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.079
like their wonder and then there's a building.
527
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.240
It's pretty pretty, it's pretty magnificent.
528
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.640
It's really nice. It was the best part of the movie.
529
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:13.279
The the you mentioned the animation, like it's so free,
530
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:19.599
it's so fluid and a morphous and still to the beat.
531
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:23.680
This must have been a fucking nightmare to have animated.
532
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.279
Well, the stuff has a use of it's kind of
533
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:33.079
liquidy too, you know, it's very Disney stuff is very precise.
534
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.119
This is more impressionistic. This is more a little flowy.
535
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.119
Even splashes in a Disney movie or geometric. This feels
536
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.359
like a formless, massive.
537
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.599
Liquid I feel like again when I, when I, when I,
538
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.440
when I, when I recall the animated sequences, I'm like, oh,
539
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:51.960
these are pretty good, but that live.
540
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.680
Action just yeah right, it deadens your your enjoyment of
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00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.799
the film, right because.
542
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.720
The minute you're really laking and I'm like, oh, it's over.
543
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.960
More animation here, I am. I'm gonna's been some blakes
544
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.480
now for you.
545
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.880
I'm like, yeah, it doesn't. It never pays to cut
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to vaudeville. This isn't Hell's the Poppin.
547
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.200
But that those live action sequences, you know what the
548
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:17.079
cliches of foreign films, he always you know, the American
549
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.839
cliches of what form films are like.
550
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.119
That's it right there, kind of laid out. Yeah yeah,
551
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.039
just wackiness and obtuseness. And at the.
552
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:27.000
Least they and they don't.
553
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.359
They can't even give me some feel a red look
554
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.319
alike to at least soften the blow.
555
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:35.039
No. Well, the villain here in the piece, it should
556
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:38.160
be said, shows uping about halfway through the through the movement,
557
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:44.240
a furry little gorilla who shows up separate from all
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the other evolution going on. Notice he's not all of
559
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.880
the creatures, like it or not have come from that
560
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.400
central Co Cola bottle. This other, this other hairy mammal
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00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.960
just shows up on his own and it's a fucking troublemaker.
562
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.839
He sure is, was it? By the end of it,
563
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.160
he like there's a man and he's like driving a
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00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:03.880
man suit.
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00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:09.720
It's super impressionistic. So the little ape as evolution is progressing,
566
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.319
we see him. Basically, this is so much better than
567
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:17.319
the Right of Spring Fantasia as far as first yeah,
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as a picture of actual evolution right and and the
569
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progression of time, because not only are we watching as
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00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.240
life in its varied forms sort of evolves, but we
571
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:33.799
get to watch what is effectively human civilization as it's occurring.
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00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:39.039
Because the little ape starts killing others for warmth. This
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one's furry, I'll take that fur. This one has a shell.
574
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.920
I can use that as a boat. Hey, lightning lit
575
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.000
this on fire? What can I do with this fire?
576
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.240
And that part is my favorite part of the of
577
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:54.359
the entire piece. When he's he's mesmerized by his flaming torch,
578
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:59.000
realizes its power that it can burn and just decimate
579
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.079
anything around him. And then you'll notice he leaves again.
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He all on his own. So while the rest of
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00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.839
the rest of these creatures are continuing to evolve past
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the pyramids, past the crucifixion cross as we get closer
583
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.440
and closer time. Then they run into a freeway in
584
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.960
a city and there's a giant man overseeing all of it.
585
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.000
But still in this evolves human being who has created
586
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.160
all this beautiful civilization. If you crack open that skull,
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00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:26.880
the fucking monkeys still in there.
588
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:27.319
Yep.
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00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.279
Now is the monkey is to say, monkey running around
590
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:31.799
the live action?
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00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:33.920
Why bring up the live action?
592
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:35.480
Yeah?
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00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.799
It looksten First of all, it's a terrible monkey suit.
594
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:40.759
It is an awful monkey suit.
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00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.039
Is it supposed to be a gorilla or is it
596
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.440
supposed to be a guy in a right?
597
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.240
Yeah, it's so poor that that's what we have to like.
598
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.759
Is this a bit they're doing or is that supposed
599
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:56.000
to be the monkey has escaped from the previous segment.
600
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.400
Well, somebody, if you notice some of the other animated
601
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.960
characters escape from the from the cartoon, but.
602
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.319
They remain animated, and remain animated and in color.
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00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.440
If there's that one little guy on the paper that
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00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:08.240
gets burned to.
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00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.599
Death, ah, I'm glad you brought him up. That is
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00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:15.000
a that is a senior Rossi. Bruno Bozzetto, when he
607
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.720
was twenty years old, created his short first film, which
608
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.200
was about it was the history of weapons. But soon
609
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.480
after created this character Senor Rossi, and he appeared in
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00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.960
a bunch of shorts and then start in three features.
611
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.160
The reason he was able to do a leground on
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00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.480
Tropos because he had so much success with that little character.
613
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.079
So that's actually a cameo.
614
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.240
Oh wow, and then he's burning him.
615
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:36.680
He burns him up. It's really weird.
616
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.119
Yeah, fucking blessed those Italians.
617
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.200
Man, bless the Italians.
618
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.960
He got something going on with that spaghetti.
619
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.240
And they want to make you cry, and they fucking succeed.
620
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.720
In our next segment, the is Jean Sibelius's Vals Trieste.
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00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.400
The play that the piece of music is from. Is
622
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:01.559
an elderly woman who rouses from late one night because
623
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:05.200
she hears music and dancing and it's this piece of music.
624
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.319
And the more she dances, the more these other figures
625
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.039
appear and dance with her, and we realize at the
626
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:14.680
end when she dances her way to the door and
627
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.480
opens the door, and death is waiting for her, that
628
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.480
those are ghosts all along and now it's her time
629
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.880
to go. So Brindo Bazano has taken that piece of
630
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.279
music with that history and said it in a demolished
631
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.319
house and the I'm gonna cry fucking talking about it
632
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.119
and the cat that is still haunting it even though
633
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.400
the family has gone. Could you just take it? I'm
634
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:35.880
gonna cry.
635
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.000
Oh yeah, it's that's what I notic is. I'm like, wow,
636
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.000
the the animationist is really nice. You can see the
637
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.240
rooms doing and all that stuff, and I'm just like,
638
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.640
this poor cat.
639
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.640
The cat is antioning and it's live action, Like.
640
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.599
Yeah, live action people walking through this cat's memory, and
641
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.559
it's just it's really heartbreaking. It's very sad. And at
642
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.720
the end of the demolished the whole fucking house, and
643
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:02.240
it's just like.
644
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.839
It's it's it's it's really heartbreaking because the cat is
645
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.159
living in these memories, these happy memories, and then we
646
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:15.000
keep coming back to the fucking hard meathook reality of
647
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.480
what's actually going on. And then before before the wrecking Ball,
648
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:24.880
beautifully animated wrecking Ball should be before that falls, the
649
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.079
cat itself fades and disappears. Now my question to you, Antonio,
650
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.360
given the previous thing that this is based on, was
651
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.360
the cat alive the whole time and we just saw
652
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.280
it die or was it a ghost the whole time?
653
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.440
And say it was a ghost, because I'm gonna feel
654
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:40.440
really really awful.
655
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.960
Oh yeah, it's just an it's a psychic echo. That
656
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.760
cat is living in a farm in dustany Okay, Yeah,
657
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:49.960
he's having white pasta.
658
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.440
With having a good time. He's playing every day.
659
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.440
Yeah, Diane Lane moved there. She adopted the cat.
660
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.360
Right, That's what I have to believe now, because this
661
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.480
one tears my heart out. And here is the only
662
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:08.119
time where cutting back afterwards to the live action to
663
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.280
me was worth it, where he cuts to all the
664
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:16.800
old Italian grannies weeping and weeping and weeping, and suddenly
665
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.280
the first time I saw this, I was bawling like
666
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.440
an idiot. In fact, I was crying again here and
667
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.320
it feels like such a fuck you from Brazil, from
668
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.239
Bruno brosetto cutting back to these old women, like look
669
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.519
at you, you emotional fools. Look what we've done and
670
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.039
how we've manipulated you. I admire him and am mad
671
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:34.400
at him.
672
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.039
It's a very sweet sequence and it sucks it, so said.
673
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:43.119
Okay, I'm gonna move on to okay here, okay, this
674
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.599
is like, this is a New Yorker cartoon kind of
675
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.000
we go to Vivaldi's Concerto and see in C major
676
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.960
this one is. Here's the animation is the is the Star.
677
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.320
It's just a female bee trying to have a picnic,
678
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.920
trying to have the perfect meal, and these fucking cut
679
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.280
shows up in her field and they're all in love.
680
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.239
So they're rolling around and making shit fucking tense.
681
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:12.039
Yeah that was funny, but you know, like the animation
682
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:12.519
I liked.
683
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.320
I liked the animation of the bee lady though. That
684
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.559
was a nice design. That was probably the most disney
685
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.000
Esque looking piece in the whole thing.
686
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.280
And in contrast to it, what I took away from
687
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.039
it the couple. They're drawn. It's not watercolor, but they
688
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.760
are painted. But the remarkable feature there is there's no
689
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.199
outline on them. Yeah, there's not even a hint of
690
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.159
a black line there.
691
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.440
No, it's really just the But maybe that's the way
692
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.199
the B season.
693
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.079
It's startling that all the real world stuff doesn't have outlines.
694
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.280
And and then as you said, she's really cartoony with
695
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:46.760
a hard black line on her.
696
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:47.639
Yeah.
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00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.000
I like how the b escapes into the into the
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into the.
699
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.800
Live action, right, but but she remains animated. So we're
700
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.280
gonna close a book that that's just a fucking lunatic
701
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:06.239
in a really bad monkey costume chasing the Okay, this
702
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.639
is our final sequence, although it's not the final sequence
703
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.280
because we're gonna get a schmorgasboard of finales immediately afterwards.
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00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.519
Set to Igor Stravinsky's The Firebird. Interestingly that they used
705
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.199
it infantation in two thousand as well, not saying that
706
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.199
they've seen this movie, not that. Ward Kimball, one of
707
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.880
the original Walt Disney animators, after seeing this movie immediately
708
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.280
started showing it to his students in his animation class
709
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.760
as the Balero sequence, in particular, as an example of
710
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.199
how you should be animating these days. Okay, so what
711
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.880
we're given here is this one's really impressionistic. Kind of
712
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:46.599
it's it's the Book of Genesis, but kind of it's
713
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.320
very impressionistic. It's the serpent, but the serpent is there
714
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.760
to tempt Adam and Eve, but then the serpent himself
715
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.760
becomes tempted. It's like the last temptation of Lucifer, because
716
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.840
all of the demons show up to offer him all
717
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.239
these other things. Even though like he's doing his best
718
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.000
to get that fucking fruit with the tree from the
719
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.119
Tree of Knowledge into Adam and Eves's hands, they're just
720
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:13.280
not going for it. Then he eats it, and oh boy, and.
721
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.039
I'm just like, well, he's a carnivore. He shouldn't be
722
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.760
eating fruits and vegetables. He's gonna have a tony ache
723
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.199
and have nightmares about demons.
724
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.000
Maybe that's just what it was.
725
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:24.719
About having pants.
726
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.679
Yeah, because he grows arms and legs that eating from
727
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the Tree of Knowledge. I love this segment. Honestly.
728
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.880
I thought it was really it was like trying to
729
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.519
figure out what was going on, and you're like Evil Eye,
730
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.519
live Action hands Clan Nation and.
731
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:43.119
I don't know what.
732
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.440
A twist and the guy's dog, Yeah it.
733
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Did.
734
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.480
I'm just saying, I just say that's what it looked like.
735
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.719
I think that's just the that's the non offensive animator
736
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.440
way of drawing a dong. Just just just a little squiggle,
737
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.440
just a little squiggle upside hand.
738
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:08.199
So the the the snake gets all the temptations of man.
739
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.039
I guess like he goes through the whole human cycle.
740
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:18.719
Yet tempted by money and drugs and sex and violence
741
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.960
and you know, just material objects. Oh give me that
742
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.000
washing machine and by the anima.
743
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.079
He's like, oh, this isn't worth it. Fuck it, and
744
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:30.159
he like just leaves the movie, Like he gets up, slithers,
745
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:33.559
takes off the man's suit, slithers off into the live action.
746
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:37.039
Then on screen ntil he's like, fuck it, this movie,
747
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:41.800
this movie ends with meta. The devil ends the hero. Yeah,
748
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.800
figures out God's game sucks. He's one, don't want to
749
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:45.239
be part of it.
750
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.800
But I like the beta. Yeah, I like it. They're
751
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.519
not talking about it. I like it more the the
752
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.679
meta nature of the fuck this.
753
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.480
I'm leaving the movie. And he gets a really very
754
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:58.760
very Warner Brothers.
755
00:39:59.199 --> 00:39:59.920
It's very texting.
756
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.360
So it's really like leaning into the tradition of cartoon
757
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.519
absurdity when it really plays here, Yeah, there's one of
758
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:08.800
the more interesting sequences.
759
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.360
But then they double down because they have to we
760
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.199
go back to our live action. They don't have enough
761
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.800
finale now because the fucking snake took off, and so
762
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:21.519
they call down to this igor like character, what's his name? Franciscini.
763
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.360
It's basically like a Frankenstein igor tech who is who's
764
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:28.559
tasked with going and finding a finale, which I love
765
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.519
because he has to go down into the pavement where
766
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.920
there's like a tiny stack stack of tiny prosceniums, and
767
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:36.199
then he.
768
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.719
Starts watching them and he's like and I'm just like, okay,
769
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.239
he's making fun of the audience now, yeah.
770
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:47.000
So you know, okay, which he dispenses with a few
771
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:48.760
of them, and then he ends up on one where
772
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:53.559
it's this like series of escalating fucking tragedies ending with
773
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:58.480
the nineteen seventies go to for animated shorts Nuclear War,
774
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.760
there was a lot of you know, what's so funny
775
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.800
like watching it now, the casual nature and it's just
776
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:11.639
the sort of inevitability of nuclear war as a viable
777
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.280
ending to your piece. This isn't the first short film
778
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.280
I've seen that ends with missiles flying.
779
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.159
Yeah, well, I mean it's like, they're not the first
780
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:23.400
seventies movie with that just dystopian downer ending. That's like,
781
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.760
that's what made a lot of those movies, seventies movies,
782
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.960
that parallax view ending, you know, or was there's that Simpsons?
783
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.880
What are you doing No. I'm watching the science fiction
784
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.159
movie from the seventies and it ends with the guy
785
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.599
like ripping his He's like, oh baby, I love you,
786
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.280
and he takes his face off, and it's a robot.
787
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:44.239
It's like down pulls away. It's dystopia and it's awful.
788
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.800
Like seventies movies.
789
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.559
Well, it ends with the guy being trapped in a
790
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:50.239
little model presidium, the live action guy.
791
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.079
That's true because then we pull back even further to
792
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:54.400
find that that's the case.
793
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.800
What yeah, and and frand Justini the OAF is.
794
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.480
Watching it were And the ending is effectively given to Satan,
795
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.000
who pomps back up to just say goodbye. He returns
796
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.440
to the movie at the end, literally the end. It
797
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.320
says happy end. It doesn't say.
798
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.800
Yeah, that was a happy end.
799
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.119
That was just like, huh, this is what the Americans say, Yes, okay,
800
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:16.760
happy end.
801
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.639
It's this is such an Italian movie.
802
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.360
It is so Italian. It is so Italian.
803
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:26.920
This is as Italian, as as fantastic plant as French.
804
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.760
Yes, yes, and this one this is from I don't
805
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:33.400
know if this reminds me of that at all. I
806
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.760
don't think it does. Other than that kind of.
807
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.079
This is distinctly a movie that only we could have
808
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.880
made in this country, right, England is the only country
809
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:44.360
that could have made The Plague.
810
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.679
Dogs or what was that when the wind blows that
811
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.159
fucking that animated couple living in a in the aftermath
812
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.039
of a nuclear war?
813
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.880
Oh yeah, have you ever seen The Plague Dogs?
814
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:58.599
No? I haven't, and now I kind of don't want.
815
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:03.079
To play dogs is no, you shouldn't watch the Plane Dogs,
816
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:05.360
not after your reaction to the cat part.
817
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.199
Okay, yeah, man.
818
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.519
It's it's a it's an animated film about dogs and
819
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:12.920
escape a testing facility.
820
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.000
Jesus, no, no, thank.
821
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.920
You, And and it is the saddest movie in the
822
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:23.360
history of mankind. Makes Water Shipped Down look like you know,
823
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.239
Disney Romp, you know, makes a Secret and Nim look
824
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.559
like American Tale, like it's I don't know, like it's
825
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.039
it's the president to watch it. It's like, what's the
826
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.039
one that it was a Grave of the butter but
827
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.679
Grave of the Fireflies or Barefoot gen.
828
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.000
The Aftermath of Her Broach?
829
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:42.639
Yeah?
830
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.800
Oh yeah, I remember both of both of them.
831
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.280
They're both of them about that.
832
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.840
Yeah, man, but that's good though.
833
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.280
Eric the weekend, do we we don't go that sad
834
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.880
on on on on animation over here.
835
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.719
But yeah, we don't go really on adult animation at all.
836
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.760
No, we don't, although we also make Coco, so you
837
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.079
know what I mean. Like for all the false American
838
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.159
animation has, like and Disney has, they still make Cocoa.
839
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.920
But yeah, no, not complaining about the what we're what
840
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.880
we're good at, but maybe we can be good at
841
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:16.559
other things too.
842
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.360
We can be good at other things though, I'd like
843
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.239
I'd really like to see hand drawn two D animation again.
844
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.000
You know it's sad that, like when now, even when
845
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:28.079
it's done, you can tell how cheap it is. You
846
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:28.960
can't afford it.
847
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.519
Jesson, this movie was precient. Now it really is just
848
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:32.880
one guy chained to a desk.
849
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:37.480
Yeah. Really, what did I just watch which was pretty good?
850
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:44.440
Was that Zack Snyder's Norse. Yeah, God, it's very Zack snydery.
851
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.880
His craziness works better than animation. But the animation, while
852
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.760
stylistic and pretty and all that stuff, you can tell that,
853
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.840
oh this is done now and after effects, they're not
854
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:55.360
doing this.
855
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.400
Oh yeah, you.
856
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:01.000
Know, they're rigging an attuny model and animating that rather
857
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.159
than drawing twenty four frames a second and stuff. So,
858
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.880
and like some of the recent DC animated films are
859
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.239
done in that same kind of rigged animated, you know,
860
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.679
rigged after Finn style.
861
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.960
So it's not quite three D, but it's not to
862
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:19.159
those off.
863
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.719
Yeah, but it worked the the rigged the they used
864
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.239
three D models and cell shaded on that blue eyed
865
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:28.599
Samurai and that looks beautiful cartoon.
866
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.719
I have to watch that. People to watch that, but
867
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.760
it's in the it's in my queue, dude, there's so much.
868
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:36.840
To watch it, and we're gonna go, you know. But
869
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:41.039
this movie I'm you know, get through, and I think
870
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.119
most of it had to do with that live action
871
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:44.199
just takes you out of it.
872
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.320
Man, literally takes you out of it. It's yeah, it's
873
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:51.039
really distracting. So I mean, I do want them to
874
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.400
restore this film and put it out in the best
875
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:55.840
possible way, but I also want both versions.
876
00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:00.239
Yeah, there's one thing can be said about about Fantasia
877
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.639
is that, Yeah, the dems, Taylor and guy this stuff
878
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.280
in there. But their cutter he cut that movie. They
879
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.519
or she cut that movie. They cut that movie and
880
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.000
they kept the pace going. Yeah, the guys came out
881
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.239
and talked, but that thing was never you know, Demes
882
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.239
was never on screen for more than thirty seconds.
883
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.719
I was never bored by Dames. I was annoyed that
884
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.880
we weren't just flowing into the next animation.
885
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.519
Yeah, but I wasn't bored by him.
886
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:26.480
No, this true god wackiness was just like I should
887
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.599
have left it, should have left it on the should
888
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.119
have left it at home. Man. But it's neat to
889
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:34.280
see animation from other countries and see how they interpret stuff.
890
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:38.480
You know, Italian comics are really nice, really pretty too,
891
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.320
like Italian comic books.
892
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.960
Yeah, and what's the other that draws all the sexy women?
893
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:48.880
Oh manara Ah, you draw those really sexy books. And
894
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:52.519
there was all Dylan Dogg there's another comic. And there's
895
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.800
a lot of cool comics from Italy that I just
896
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:57.079
think the art is just well Man's spectacular.
897
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:58.760
A couple of years ago I read all of the
898
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:04.920
Diabolic comp for me. Yeah, man, so good. Those those
899
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:10.760
were those comics. He's really amoral in those those early yeah. Yeah,
900
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.320
before he becomes mister Robinhood, he's he's just wasting people
901
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:15.039
for no reason.
902
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:17.639
Hollywood hasn't jumped on that.
903
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.519
I hope they don't, because there's no way you can
904
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:26.320
recreate the gorgeous cinematic triumph that is danger Diabolic, directed
905
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.239
by Mario Baba, my favorite Italian filmmaker by the way.
906
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.000
Oh yeah, I've never seen it.
907
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.559
Ah no, I've never seen it.
908
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.119
Oh my god, you're in for a fucking treaty.
909
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:39.199
I liked.
910
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:40.719
Oh my god, that's a good one too.
911
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:44.079
Yeah, recommended me to watch me that. Yeah, I'll watch it.
912
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:45.400
I'll find it.
913
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.440
Yeah, if you can't, I will, I will provide it.
914
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.679
I know. I am that movie. I mean, that's it's
915
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.480
one of my really cool Oh my god, he's so
916
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:57.320
good in it, fucking John Phillip law Now I'm gonna
917
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:58.519
watch I gotta go watch that now.
918
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.280
Okay, Well this was a good one. This was a
919
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.880
unique a unique picture, man, definitely was and it's a
920
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:06.400
nice counterpoint to the Fantasia.
921
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:08.519
It was. And yeah, I'm glad we did it. I
922
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:10.760
was gonna skip it. And then you were like insistent.
923
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.159
I'm glad you were because you mentioned it.
924
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:14.719
I'm like, well, there's an Italian vantation.
925
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:15.639
I watch it.
926
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:20.039
Hell yeah, this was had a nice you know blapasta
927
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.559
with me. Yeah, this one, this one flows along, you
928
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.880
know what I mean. I highly recommend this movie. You're
929
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.840
going to be annoyed by the by the comedy bits, but.
930
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.079
Yeah, and you can find it on YouTube.
931
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.639
You can just skip through those guys exactly. Even if
932
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.599
you had a physical disc, the fast forward button is there.
933
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.679
So we want to thank you all for joining us
934
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.119
here on midnight viewing anthologiess attack. Until next time. Where
935
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:44.679
can people find you if they're looking for you, mister Lapoor.
936
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.039
Well, you can find us at Space detectivemovie dot com
937
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.360
and Swamp dot com and keep an eye out for
938
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.400
a local film festival or a new movie at Living
939
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:58.519
Ben has just entered. The film festival runs and we'll
940
00:48:58.559 --> 00:48:59.599
be having a preson.
941
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.880
Yeah, we'll be keeping you updated on all of that.
942
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:05.480
If you want to find me, well, you're listening to
943
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.599
the show that I mainly do. I'm all I sometimes
944
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.320
guest over on culture Cast. Did that a lot this
945
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.280
past month. Go check out those I programmed the month. Actually,
946
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.159
Also you can hear me over on night mister Walter
947
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.599
is the Taxi podcast I do with co host HP
948
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.440
who does the music for this show. If you want
949
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.559
to support us, head on over to Patreon dot com
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00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.239
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00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:33.119
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953
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.920
So check that out. And if money's tight, and god
954
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.800
knows it is for all of us, you can do
955
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.079
us a massive favor by just giving us a five
956
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.639
star review on Apple Podcasts, or at the very least,
957
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.400
just tell your friends until next time. I still haven't
958
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:49.840
figured out a line here.
959
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.039
Yeah, until next time. You know, keep your anthologies attacking,
960
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:56.159
you know what, no.
961
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:52.239
Exist sis sis sis s