060: Collision

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[SPEAKER_03]: What is full got more comics than on others first?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ready?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, and welcome to MCMF the comic group podcast where I try to give you dear listener into the wonderful world of comic books by making my friends read comics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My name is Marcus Mr. Summers if you are nasty and joining me making her try umphin return.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The official lesbian correspondent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, I missed Pride Month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like we can make up that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is a pride month adjacent title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's right after Pride Month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my sad bisexual boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's his birthday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's his birthday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to celebrate today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally today is his birthday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Birthday, Timothy Drake, bisexual king.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I say king.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: drown to cat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we were recording this on July nineteen the boy he he is at the peak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he's ever sat or then he is in the two thousand nine to twenty eleven series red robin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a meeting the most press anyone has ever had a comment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the only time he might have been more depressed than this is the issue where they literally put a, uh, uh, uh, helpline phone number in the back of the issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually, he might have been Saturn the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is my job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the longest he's sustained being this sad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there have been instances in the past where he's been this sad, but for like an issue or it's been like a team book like team titans and he only gets like some of the pages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy when I we're not starting an issue number one we're starting a little ways in but I read from issue one all the way through twelve because we're gonna end at twelve and when this book starts a issue one is he is going through it he is not just issue issue the first four issues are truly just like basically until time shows up
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, until the only reason that he stopped being suicidal is because something has so much to protect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like, oh shit, I can't let Tam die.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care what happens to me, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's just like, yeah, well, I could get stabbed a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He does get stabbed a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Spoiler alert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about this kid getting stabbed so many times and he is a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very explicitly in this book, which I think is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He shouldn't be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to start on on the hot foot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim should be eighteen in this book and I'll tell you why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So as I established earlier, July, Nineteenth is Tim's birthday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's established in issue one, sixteen of the original Robin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Tim turned sixteen on the page in that issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One year passes after this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know this because of the one year later time skip.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then when Stephanie comes back,
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[SPEAKER_02]: towards the end of that when Dixon pops back in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim and Steph are shown to be in high school together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then Stephanie's Batgirl book starts and she is in college in college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim's birthday is in the summer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's birthday is so far in the summer that it would not possibly have been while they were in school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Meaning, Tim should be eighteen years old during the time of this book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's because they wanted to do the thing that they do in the closing pages of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His big gotcha moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which we walked for a year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not illegal at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not illegal at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes, I've heard a lot of various discourse around like the ages of characters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am of the opinion that I don't give a shit what a character's age is unless you tell me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you tell me, I'm going to care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't tell me like for the first eleven issues of this book, I was just like, yeah, he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably late teens, maybe at the most early twenties, I don't really care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't matter to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't live, I understood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once you give me a number, I'm going to start giving a shit and save with like how long people are in school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason for this for me personally is because like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I under comic books take a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To finish, if you have a storyline to take a place over the course of one night, which this one does, this arc is like one fucking day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of it at least.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe the first issue takes place over a couple of days, but at least three or four of the issues we're going to be talking about take place over one crazy ass night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would take like five real-world months to come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like things just take a lot longer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, it's really comforting as like, I, so the reason that I love this character so much is because one of the very first comic books I ever read all the way through was the original run of Robin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the time, I was fourteen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was two thousand and nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was fourteen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was reading the Jeff John's Teen Titans, which whips by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is, is it any of the Jeff Johns written stuff?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the Jeff Johns ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember which one it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's not the future one, because I just saw that one there the other day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, with Future Tim and Tim's like, I'll kill myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't give me a reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Future Tim quick, quick sidebar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I mentioned like, oh, I don't know if he's ever been sadder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There have been individual moments that Tim has been
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is really, really excited in this book in a profound way, but it's not the first time you've ever been suicidal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the other times is that he meets a future version of himself who is Batman and uses guns and shoots people in the face and Tim is like the solution is that I will kill myself right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets the gun from his future self and puts it to his head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says, you don't get the fuck outta here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will kill myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you were me, you all do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I am in a weird place right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I will shoot myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're just like, ski-woah, Logan's a funny guy to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mom, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so that's a crazy arc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Jeff John's just a really good job with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I, this character was really important to me at the time, especially because like, it was an angstie team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was an angstie team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was also like a really hyper competent angsty teen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really, I, I viked with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked the depression of it for notes on the other character that I am printed on like a baby duck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go, listen to the first episode of this podcast I have appeared in the background rising episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that is episode seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See the seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four and a half hours long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We took Liberty's crazy on that episode because that was when we were still still doing twelve episode or twelve issue stories and it is also the last episode of the show I recorded while I was single so I didn't have shit else going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you look forward to it was still part of the pandemic where like shit was closed and like it was it wasn't like twenty twenty peak of pandemic, but like I didn't have a life right
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[SPEAKER_02]: The you can tell, like if you look through the length of episodes of this show, you can tell the exact point where I got a girlfriend and it became important that I wasn't spending four hours a week doing this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which I respect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we don't do that again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is Red Robin issue nine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where we're starting written by Chrissios.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This issue is the art is done by Ramon Box and Ray McCarty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I looked right at the cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The cover is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to talk to you about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely Marcus, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to talk about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Ramon Box.
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[SPEAKER_01]: remote box did the pencils up until issues sick issue six I believe because he starts with the spiders because okay yes that's right so he does issues one through six and then starting it's sorry
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[SPEAKER_01]: Up until six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he just, the first chunk of issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's, he's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have distinct memories of this book being drawn by Marcus Toe, one of my favorite comic books artists, for this reason, and now also for others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when I saw he was the reason I read Excalibur was not because I knew who anybody in that book was, but because I was picking up Xbox at the time, and Marcus Toe was drawing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is how I started reading Excalibur.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which we did nights of X, but not X gal, but we tried to different artists, but still like also Rogue is very hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He throws really hot women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The hair is always incredible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like Carlos, who's the artist to did um, uh, at extirminates Carlos Gomez?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I can picture it, but I can't remember it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but like he draws the most stacked up women I've ever seen in an X-Men comic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Bobo has tits that the gravity defines, but like in a fun way, not in an exploded away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she would, she would love it if you told her that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but no, but this issue of Red Robin is she nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it says on the cover that it's for Moonbox.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can guarantee that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I, I'm looking at it with a smart stick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She'll credit page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all the pages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It says is not just toe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, Dream McCarthy and Guy Major doing the colors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Guy Major, why does that name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That name sounds good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta say, this is a crazy mistake to make.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just to fully get the credits wrong on the cover is insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's not wrong on any of the other ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the other ones are correct, but this is just, it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The anchor is correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they got everybody else right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is just like oops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, other blasts to the past of other episodes that I've been on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The writer of this arc is Chris Yoast of Thailand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The ones who have created X- Twenty-Three, but who also wrote the Academy X, sorry, it's new X-Men, Cole and Academy X. He's the one that blew up all those kids on the last.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They also... Co-creat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they put that joke in there where...
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[SPEAKER_02]: or they're using one of their co-writers from X-Men Evolution as the name for a guy who is getting assassinated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are also the reason that, so one of my hottest comic book movie takes is that, Tyka Watts, you got a lot of extra credit for Thor Ragnarok being good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you look at the screenplay credits, it's like, oh, this is Kyle and Yoast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on that when I was looking up his I was like is this the same used and I googled him because I forgot because in my my this book was like I just I forgot who wrote it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember Marcus Chao and I forgot the writers the other his baby in this he is also crazy Very good at they're both very good at this, but I was looking up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo's to solve all of his movie credits and I was like Yeah, yeah, he wrote the right but he was also on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thor Dark World, but interestingly enough, not love and thunder, which was dog shit, you know, maybe maybe maybe they needed the combination of Takeaway T.D.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyle, you know, you can't really, I think people in this system, and the second you lose one of them, you can't make the good movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the thing that I was mad when I left that movie theater, it was angry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen the movie twice to make sure that I actually don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's real hate or behavior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like sleuth of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my last, that's my last Superman rep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to make sure that I wasn't just being a hater and I watched it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, wow, I don't like this movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's, there's obvious layups in that movie where that they don't take.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I was doing this movie and I have this infinite budget and we're going to spend a bunch of it on old rock songs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In the first scene where Jane is Thor and the hammer goes past Thor and lands in her hand, I would have spent however much money to license Jane by Jefferson airplane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh!
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[SPEAKER_02]: The hammer lands in her head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bam, pan, pan, pan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's, oh, that would be good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when it comes off, that's when you do the big moment where he yells, Jane and Thogos, Jane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you make your lady, you know what being silly anyway, you might as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did fucking immigrant song in, like, throwing a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how much money you wear?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was cheesy, but cheesy in a way that was so awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone will love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should just let me think of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you're going to pay Jimmy Page any amount of money, you might as well pay Jefferson Airplane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For talking about musical cues in Marvel movies, we hate just really really brief.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have beef with Captain Marvel because using I'm just a girl there instead of literally the spaceship fight scene and it's I I'm so I know that it's nineties and I know that it's the first female superhero movie that they did, but like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I really don't like it when every thing that has to do with women or like gay people or any kind of minority is like, oh, and it's the first female, just do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have put up a fucking movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You should have just put in a galactic in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or what did cherry bomb?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also thought cherry bomb, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cherry mom would have ruled that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, pick a piano artist and just do it, but don't have it be literally chanting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at me, I'm a woman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I would have put Sabbath music in there now, I think about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what musical, you will get people, get the people going every time the fucking baseline in sabotage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, they miss so many opportunities, but this is not even a Marvel Comics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are going to tell, I am going to find a excuse to talk about Carol's accent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is my crustaceous and he does a good job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This issue opens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is Tim's return to Gotham City.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So for the previous eight issues, Tim Drake and his new, let's say love interest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say the fact that let's call it what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tam Fox.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have been in the loses foxes and loses foxes daughter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: have been in the Middle East broadly, uh, Europe, uh, just, you know, not here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jet setting as it were because Tim is searching for proof that Bruce Wayne is alive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one believes it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the reason that nobody believes them we should probably mention this takes place after the crossover event final crisis which is a mess and you should not read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is only one good thing worth reading in that and that is the weird weird Superman interlude where he like goes to the edge of forever and it's written by Grant Morrison and it's basically about like the concept of fear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else is dog shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't read vinyl crisis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want a good crisis, read crisis on Infinite Earths or Infinite Crisis, but crisis on Infinite Earths is the best of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crisis on averse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Capital T Capital G, the good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Infinite Crisis because I'm a sucker for angst and they kill super boy in that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm mentioning that because it will be relevant later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like Infinite Crisis because Dick wears the blue and gold costume again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also, God, we were talking about it the other day of the turnaround of Connor dying from Connor and Cassie having sex in that barn to Connor dying in so fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the first example I can think of only in any media where like
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how in every single horror movie the second the girl has said that she died.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do that to Connor Kench.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Connell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like if I think hard enough about it, it's happening in Star Trek.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like he listens for Trinity in a barn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the next day he is dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did twenty four hours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That boy is dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And wonder girl, fucking a barn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She walks out in just his T-shirt, mock-head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't remember what this was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's how she meets them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've never won a week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've cast the.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's wearing the big black T-shirt with the S on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It barely covers her ass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why, I'm trying to remember why they were in the barn in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could look it up, but I'm not going into the barn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They fucking the barn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a particular member of the page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually really, it's a pretty, it's a really pretty page of that laying in the barn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they're like silhouetted and it's them taking their shirts off silhouetted and like they say they really like each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they tell each other that they love each other and it's very like
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're sixteen, seventeen having sex because it's the end of the world and life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You really think that you really love this girl because you're sixteen or seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how Stephanie Brown got pregnant, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not by anyone we know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to the way the last dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The two-steam is done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was not in the picture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait for DC to remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She has a daughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't mentioned it in like, fifteen years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're never going to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They brought content that shit too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, so super boy dies and infinite crisis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Time passes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's final crisis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Batman, right before final crisis, goes a little crazy because of that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he goes a little crazy and Stephanie Brown is revealed to be alive and Tim and her have a falling out because she kind of betrays him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's working for Batman at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they are not really talking at the moment because he's still mad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then during final crisis Bruce Wayne, big air quotes here dies because he has hit the omega beams of dark side, which do various, those do whatever the writer needs them to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't sometimes they kill you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They do what dark side wants them to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do what Darkside wants me to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at that moment, Darkside is also being shot with a bullet going through space and time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's his last thing that he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kills back bigger quotes, kills back into the process.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like a desiccated corpse in the costume.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's just bones laying there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: people are like Bruce's fucking dead Superman brings his body back like they bury something and but the thing is is that uh first way and we know this at the end of final crisis here's the thing the audience knows Tim is right yes you the reader know the Tim is correct no crisis no it's correct because at the very end of final crisis you see that first way and actually now is a cave man in meal lithic times drawing a bat symbol in a cave painting on a wall
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that is what leads to the comic book, Batman, the Return of Bruce Wayne, which is fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: RIP Hunter is involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for gold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He becomes a pilgrim at one point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He jumps forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which is how Tim figures out that Bruce is alive, is because Tim is this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's seen like the portrait.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess the implication is that Tim has seen the portrait before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it didn't always look exactly like Bruce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but it was my thought was either that happened or he sees a portrait realizes it just fully is Bruce Wayne and he's like, he's always thought it was like an ancestor and it was like, huh, it's funny how much this guy looks like Bruce and never gave him much thought and then he sits and looks at it and goes, holy shit, that's Bruce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, that is, that is Bruce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, that's, that's my, that's my dad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my dad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody thinks Batman's dead though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now Dick Grayson is Batman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: David Wayne, who at this point is not a brand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's only been around for three years at this point because he was introduced in O six and now it's oh nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, he, or these books start to know nine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a pretty new character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty new and he's the new Robin also because he's so new.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a little shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't figured him out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's just he's a hyper violent psychopath.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Laura sin is writing Batman and Robin at this time and they're figuring that they're figuring Damien out, but in every other book, Damien's just like this fucking shit heel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Damian shows up a couple times in back girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that was on the issues we covered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went back and checked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a little shit in that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he starts to come around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like people are figuring about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's the vibe is very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a serious Batman and a gritty Robin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not in a serious and joking, joking Batman and a gritty serious Robin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're flipping the dynamic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which of course now means Tim is not robbing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because it can't be robbing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim's past, Tim can't be robbing because if, if, if, if, if,
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[SPEAKER_01]: if Dick doesn't keep an eye on Damian at all times he's going to cut another person's head off that that was the thing is that if kept happening in Tim's Robin book and in Batman RIP and battle for the cow all that shit Damian is just loose he's just loose and got them he just lives and got them and so one time there was like a criminal the baton was trying to like fight or look after and Damian tracks him down cuts his head off
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then whenever they drink of his asses, it's just how he wants it in a bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And tosses the bag with the head in it into the back cave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it rolls to stop it like Tim's feet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I solved your problem for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tim's like, the fuck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And anytime someone tries to discipline Damian, they'll go, dude, you can't fucking do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's like, all right, I kind of read it's like a ton.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's like sucking his teeth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like Damian, stop fucking committing murder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, it's what I was born to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know who I am?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hallelujah, I'll go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my mother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She raised me in the league of assassins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was my worst with the right ghost who is an assassin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: God, I just ran a hush again the other day because I have the DC compact comics and so I was just like reading through that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The funniest thing about Talia, to me, is the period where she wasn't Talia, I'll go and she was instead Talia head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What a terrible name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's the demon head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the demon's head therefore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like sincerely like on the page just as tally ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, glad you mentioned hush.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that happens constantly in this book is that Chris used brings up deep Batman lore and does not explain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No editor's notes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You will never get one of those little asterisks like as teen and Robin number but no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't get it, but you don't get it, you don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are, I'm gonna point them out when we get to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Moments were Tim says things and I'm like, oh, that's a reference to something that like, if you've never read Rob, like the old Rob and stuff, you don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just catch that as like Tim sang something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's one that stuck out to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I laughed out loud and had to like stop in the screenshot because it's like, what's with the brick?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not the brick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you kissed the mentions of the brick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's what he says to a race when he's on the phone with him, I'll point it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Bruce is alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim is the only one that believes Bruce is alive because he saw this portrait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He went jet setting around the world to go figure out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: how to find Bruce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He finds the cave painting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why he's in vaguely the Middle East.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's why he's in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's in Afghanistan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he finds that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's in Afghanistan, which crazy in two thousand nine, he just flies to Afghanistan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So seven, junior old gets up and goes to Afghanistan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets off a plane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This fake ID gets noticed by the military.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets shot and he gets saved by fucking
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, see and prove and the other guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because racial school has racial school is like something has happened about man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the only person who was the only person who was the only person who was racial school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because racial school is like, I know that that is degrees into the bad costume.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't fool me because they're trying to pretend Batman didn't die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very few people know Batman died because they immediately replaced them with another Batman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they have a guy who looks exactly like Bruce Wayne, but is not Bruce Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hush.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about that either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to be coming Tommy Elliott.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, Tommy Elliott and he's like, hey, I need you to pretend to be Bruce Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy Elliott is spending all of their money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but unlike charity projects, he's trying to do good, but he's also bad at writing a business to the money he's going to run out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My favorite thing about hush is that whenever he's involved, when industries lose his shit ton of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, yeah, he's very good at spending all of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also like rehab centers and education and like he's like kissing babies and cutting ribbons and donating a shit ton of money and Lucius Fox is sitting with his head in his hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we fucking doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna go and solve it in hush.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The original story when the thing that brings Tommy in is that Bruce gets his fucking ass kicked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because someone cuts, he's chasing Catwoman who is just stolen like ten million dollars from Killer Croc because Killer Croc is holding someone for ransom, which is, Bruce is like, that's weird, Killer Croc doesn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: someone cuts his line like his, you know, his grapple line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bruce falls, cracks his shoulder and undergo severe head trauma.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This, he tells Alfred in Morse code because he can't even talk because Barbara sends the car.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They throw Bruce in it and they drive back to the cave Bruce tells Afro Alfred in Morse code to call Tommy because Tommy's like his is childhood best friend and a fucking brain surgeon now Tommy flies into Gotham from Philadelphia Here's the thing Gotham You Jesse is laughing because she knows what the fuck I'm about to say Gotham is his South Jersey
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you fly?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you fly?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you fly?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, dude, get on a fucking train.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get a car.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll take longer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll take longer to get to and through the airport.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it will for you to just drive from Philly to Gotham.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're so close together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gotham is so close to Philly that it's weird that Gotham has sports teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They should all just be rooting for the Philly sports teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bruce should be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bruce and Tim should be at a flyers game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is where I take on bridge with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If New York City can have two sports teams within the city.
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[SPEAKER_01]: both of the different sports and also being right next to Philly and Philly just their own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and also like, no, I will fight you on that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gotham, my populist and Philly being that close together and they're being major sports team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am of the opinion and this isn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am of the opinion of a traplist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're near any of this other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What traplists isn't Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have never liked that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have never liked that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's too many cities there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's too many.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can add one more and that's got them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd add one more that's got them in blue havens Atlantic city.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not really, but like what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's it's it's greasy and filled with crime bosses like this.
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[UNKNOWN]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause you know's probably or it's New or it's New work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I hate New work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been picked with New work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, is New work in Boston?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know how I always shit on the common wealth of Massachusetts, the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a real specific beef and I won't explain it on this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I a family from nearby New York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I family from if you go visit them, you're flying into the New York airport, which is a hell mouth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's the, it's the most, it's not the worst airport of everybody, but it's the evil airport of everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've ever flown into O'Hare.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have many times actually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in a hair like a couple weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, no hair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I spent when I had to go up to Chicago for my dad's funeral.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I I spent extra money to not go to her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I will spend more money to find him in a way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my family actually lives closer to midway, so we would usually do midway when I was a kid, if we flew, but now that I live in Seattle, Delta is the easiest way for me to go and Delta doesn't go to midway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I have to go to O'Hare, which is a, it's, no, but Newark is evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My, my gripe would do where it's specific.
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[SPEAKER_01]: O'Hare might be worse, but Newark is evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will not elaborate on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, that's all I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I've never liked the Metropolis is like too close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also because I like the idea of like Superman having all of his big world ending shit happening pretty far away from everything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've actually always really liked the idea that Metropolis is like on the Mississippi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Metropolis, I guess to like keep Metropolis and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Smallville like to make smallville feel like it's really fucking far That's why metropolis is in Delaware because it's as far east from Kansas as you can get Okay, oh by that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh by that That's the first time someone's given me a good argument for it because if you want it to feel like in smallville, you know everything is small all these people know each other It's this really close thing and you want to have it as this culture shock almost yeah metropolis has to be
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[SPEAKER_02]: a distance that for anyone else would be like fuck this is going to take all it would take forever for me to get home but for Clark there in an instant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In my defense, part of this is also very informative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I've seen all ten seasons of the show smallville in which they put Metropolis in Kansas because at the time, he can't fly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No flights and their tides, but he can run really fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the idea is that it would be something like a four or five hour drive, but he can run there in like third.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Superman is low.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think also puts, puts Metropolis in Kansas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they usually like the TV shows usually put them which I wouldn't call anything to do with Kansas a metropolis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, like words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's why I'm doing so Boston, but hey, hey, I spent two summers in Wichita because my dad moved to Kansas when I was a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, any who with thirty minutes in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're from you can talk shit about Ohio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're from.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can talk shit about Chicago, but like I live there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know what's like about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's dark and it's cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of this is a preamble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm aware that was a lot of details, but unfortunately all of it is super necessary because Chris, you know, the loves just telling you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Refreshing shit, bed life, you need to know all of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, oh, the League of Assassins, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The League of Assassins is for a while was taking orders from Tim because racial goal was like, that is not Batman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is not Bruce Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that man is not fucking Bruce Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where is he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim and Tim was like, I'm working on it, Rish, I'm working on it, and Rish was like, let me help you with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he gives him an assassin squad that follows all his orders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if Tim doesn't play along the assassin squad, he'll solve problems for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll kill other people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll just start shooting guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll just start shooting people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, no, stop shooting people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, okay, so then like give us orders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he started to play along and Rachel let's him into the, like, League of Spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I turned during tired worldwide computer network into a bomb and it's like that's not how it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not how it works, except for, I just started watching, to mention, twenty on drop out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just finished, never stop blowing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the first of the seasons that I've ever watched.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just finished it last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels very that about like, yeah, Tim just rolled some dice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got a really high skill check.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, actually, every computer that you own across across the world, it's a bomb now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim Drake is like a classic high intelligence low wisdom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And high wisdom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: High intelligence, high dexterity, high charisma, everything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So racial school is now very mad at Tim Drake, very mad because he's like, wow, I, the, the, the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: By before was kind of like, this is kind of my apprentice a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what we're going to get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now he now he hates him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's also starting calling him detective, which he before had only ever called Bruce detective, but Bruce isn't around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Rash needs a new nemesis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he, he, he needs the game like
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the interesting thing about Tim to me or one of the many things that I find fascinating about him is that Tim is the one who is the most like Bruce and is the most aware of the ways that he's like Bruce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hates it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He loves Bruce and Rob doesn't want to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of all the robins, he is the only Robin who is steadfast in his commitment to never being Batman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I will never do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't make me do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to put on the cowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even want to pretend to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the big thing about Batman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one time he pretended to be Batman, he merely beat Jason Todd's death with the crowbar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he got stabbed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just but got by Jason Todd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jason, hey, hey, hey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim and Jason are so funny to me because pre new fifty two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like they used to are constantly it's on site like they're just beat each other's asses for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are every time every time they're in the same room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're throwing punches and now they're just like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: New Fifty Two, Tim and Jason might as well just walk past each other, flip each other the bird and laugh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fuck you, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've gotten past it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're past the staffing, but for like, Tim almost died.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Jason almost killed Jason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jason breaks into the breaks in a Titans tower gets pissed off that there's no memorial to him there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then proceeds to whip Tim's ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: beats the shit out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then writes Jason Todd was here in Tim's blood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that team Titans run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all of this was super necessary back story because Tim just showed back up and got them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very beginning of issue now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Tim says, we're in the narration.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's how I know I should be seeing a therapist.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, one reason of many actually missed Gotham City despite overwhelming evidence that Gotham is the worst place on earth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are actually our reasons to stay here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Parks in the daytime, amazing architecture, the theater scene, business, but that's not what I missed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about nights like this, the sound of the rain pouring down the wine of squad cars, tearing through the streets, nights where everyone else runs the other way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When any, when any same person would pack it all up and get out of town for good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the big panel is Killer Moth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: pointing a gun at a guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just get up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to live through this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You do exactly as I say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Please, please don't kill me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't make me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, got them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just get to be back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rolls by on his motorcycle extends his death and just trips killer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the funny part is that he then starts like, isn't he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: His internal model is like, I think this is killer moth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the funny part about this killer moth is that it's just like a new design of a costume.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my understanding is that like, this is just some new dude that they don't care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's killer moth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, don't bother still learning anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, a father's to investigate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim's just like, yeah, the costume seems kind of like killer moth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who this guy is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna fight him though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, when you look this character up, this particular killer mouth, it just says killer mouth three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one knows who this is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's never matters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Tim fights him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks a little bit about him fighting him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that he's a self-aware enough to realize that he probably should be in therapy because he should be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's Wayne now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I made a doctor to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes after one year later, Bruce adopts him legally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually very sweet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say it's at the end of Hush.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not after hush because Jack is still alive after hush.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think it's after a two face story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cause I think it's after the story where two face goes back to being evil because he was good for a little while and that he poured acid on his face again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, again, which is also crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the connection with two face in the robins, by the way, like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim Jason and Dick all have this like history with two face if he can't fucking stand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's always one of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's like, what the fuck are you doing here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so Tim takes it takes him down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good to be back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He, um, there's this really funny book is there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's already smoking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, because I think bullets commissioner by this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, that's way they refer to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's later because they refer to Gordon is still commissioner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gordon has come back to being commissioner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I bullet flickerly walks out of a squad car and he has, like, Africa cigar in his mouth, which means his car must wreak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, I would hate to be both partner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's why Montoya had to get the fuck out of there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, I can't stand it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't fucking stand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta put this mask on the covers all of my facial features so that it filters all of your fucking stench.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The question now, Mitch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's this funny moment where killer moth throws flash grenades and Tim goes flash grenades because moth's like light that seems like a stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one is, uh, so he takes some killer mods and Harvey Bullock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in one panel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy is not important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He shows up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, this is both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got the bank per killer mod for maybe hard to tell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Dr. Midnight took him down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last piece.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at his face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just like, oh, uh, because everyone keeps saying he looks like Dr Midnight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A quick note about his costume because this is extremely important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's a metaphor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a metaphor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he, he adopted
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got rid of the coolest Robin costume, and he adopted the Red Robin costume, which Jason Todd wore when he was in a series called Countdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, listen, I cannot overstate that I need you to never read Countdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he's got it more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was no, no, it was after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fifty-two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take them down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fifty-two was a weekly book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were fifty-two issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I own all fifty-two of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Countdown to the exact same thing, but in reverse, they started with issue fifty-two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do in the count of down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was counting down to final crisis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I read some of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, it's a really misogynistic book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really, it hates women a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God, it's like him and Joker's daughter and shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's dual adent and Donas there and that's when Mary Marvel gets like corrupted into a weird BDSM sex slave and on Apocalypse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, no, it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Jason is hanging out with that monitor though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's pretty funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you just hang out with the monitors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fascinating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so Jason, where's the red Robin costume?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he gets that from an alternate universe Batman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and so Jason starts going by Red Robin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that costume gets stolen by the general?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets stolen by the general, including the Cape and Cowell, which they explicitly say more than once is made of leather.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not high-tech synthetic, crazy leather.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a cow full cow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's the mask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes over the head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks bald.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no ears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a big long black cape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks heavy as shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they do a good job making this thing look like it is weighing Tim down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he picked this costume because when he was going at his gloop-trotting adventure, he was like, I'm not robbing anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got kicked out of that position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd be kind of a bad boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't go back to the light until I've saved Bruce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of his, he's punishing himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, which Connor points out to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's an issue of adventure comics, which is the first time Tim sees Connor again after Connor comes back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, adventure comics number three or alternatively adventure comics number five hundred and six Connor is pointed out so means like look you're in this heavy ass costume you're brooding you're wearing costume with a cow which is very not you
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[SPEAKER_01]: He makes him take it off because it's weirding him out too much like they're walking through some sewers and he's so freaked out by like Tim wearing a cowl he's like dude, I think this is hard for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you please just take that fucking thing off and he's like fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah And so what this costume does also look like the costume of JSA member Dr. Midnight
45:40.396 --> 45:41.877
[SPEAKER_01]: It's exactly like Dr. Midnight is the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it looks identical to Dr. Midnight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so everybody thinks he's Dr. Midnight multiple times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim said, Dr. Midnight's probably gonna come find me and beat me up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can take him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, he says, I think I could take it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's a difference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I could take it, but it's really funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim rides into his, this is what's the name yet where he's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's just, it's, it's also, it's got a blow up later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's have a look at Warehouse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he comes in, he says, sorry, I got held up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Tam says, no problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not like anything bad has ever happened to me when he've left me alone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Except that one time when a thousand super assassins came to try and kill me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is in Tim's swirl era.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tim's like, Tim, if you just give me the number of times you want me to say, I'm sorry, I'll start now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was only seven super assassins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm really sorry about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The face she makes is so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's so sick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she got set to go find him when he was gloom trodde because Lucius Fox was like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big air quotes Bruce Wayne, because he doesn't actually know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just doesn't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lucius doesn't really know that's not Bruce, but he's like, that's not Bruce, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or like, that's Bruce, but something's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I, someone else needs to run this fucking company to cannot be that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So go find him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my Tim's Rick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he sends his youngest daughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She is nineteen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do mention that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he got to be a stickler about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He sends a nineteen year old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: glove trotting to go find this boy who's just like they don't they don't know what the fuck he is he might be on a bender like the slushes fox no they're super here as I don't think he does I think he does it does he I don't know I couldn't tell it's unclear um and I'm clear do you see changes the lore a lot about who doesn't doesn't know things at any given time and so
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy who used to, he was like, Bruce is like, repair guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, does this guy just know that Bruce's Batman?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's never explained.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, anyway, uh, Tam, this is going to be confusing with the Tam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim and Tam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have, we have no alternative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing else to call her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She finds him and gets mixed up around the time that all the assassins started attacking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he had to protect her from a bunch of spider assassins who are not relevant for this story, but they are very cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess Nash is just hanging out with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because she knows
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[SPEAKER_02]: their house bunker situation it's so that's the other thing is that like they they kiss a few times during those like pre-looting issues so it's like yeah they're kind of dating there it's unclear because to make sure with links in a few issues
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she kisses him because it's very much like the basis set to explode and he grapple hooks them out in there and then they land and she's like, I haven't been she kisses him and they're both just kind of like, Oh, yeah, which is this is also how Tim and Stephanie like the earliest parts of their relationship are oh my god, you saved my life and they make out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, well, why would we do that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim is like, a lot of people like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim is like me saying something insane and then going, damn, who said that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim has never had a good prelude to kissing someone for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think of one that isn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ari.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bernard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bernard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: True.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Bernard actually is the first time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Oriana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oriana and Bernard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's call those two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said two instances in his whole life where he's had like a good, prelude to kissing somebody because every other time he's been like, just almost died.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just was discovered attempting to clone your best friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're puts on this friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll talk about that later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't start now, but I will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Covered in clone juice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That sounded dirtier than it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like green goo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A mystery vet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cloning things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A supervillain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not covering the issue where he like walks in on Link's showering and he specifically turns on his like suit's body cams off in a bird's eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she throws a towel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should fuck ass naked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She throws a towel out of him and like beats his ass because he's like handicapping himself by refusing to look at a naked link.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a whiskey whoa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's literally like, I'm trying to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just like, she's a look at me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a look at me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She, well, or don't, that'll make this easier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's his ass?
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: She said, it's just kidding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously, like, it's, are you that shocked?
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[SPEAKER_01]: By tits, I know they're great, but like, get it together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be scared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's only pussy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I swear every time my one of these episodes, you bring that out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's one of my favorite lines and anything is fucking how high.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be scared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're in a weird situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, okay, I was sent to go like bring you to my dad when you fucking follow me for once.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yeah, I just went to go check for snipers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, oh.
51:29.786 --> 51:32.367
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, uh, it's not what he was doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She says, Tim Drake Wayne Draper, you really know how to make a girl feel special because he's been using the Alvin Draper code, uh, alias again, the most fake fucking name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alvin Draper is a faker name than matches him alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because at least I just ballooned you assume that's not a legal name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You assume that's a game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In Malone people call him matches don't what don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's always got a match taken as team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alvin Draper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not your name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, which is hysterical because he tried to tell young justice that Alvin Draper was his name because they go to a sleepover and they do true through dare and they dare have to take his mask off and underneath his mask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a second mask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says my name is Alvin Draper and he says it's a stable Draper and immediately coders like no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, what do you mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, because you wouldn't know my album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You would introduce yourself as either out or bitty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a fucking alias.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you've still don't trust us.
52:40.947 --> 52:42.667
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, guys, I can't tell you my name.
52:43.107 --> 52:45.628
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they don't learn his name for another like, fifty issues.
52:45.828 --> 52:49.969
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the most lex, Luther, like, that intelligence kicked in crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, no, he's fucking not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't lie to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have the super boys brain just activated with Lexler, they're being like, liar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they, Tim and Tim go to Wayne Tower.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... to go see what i do that well time go so it's out because uh... he's like she thinks he's right behind her because he was he what he says tam where's him he says are you kidding me he do you know what i've been through since he told me to and she turns her head and she's like well got him like he's just not there like he's just fully got he's he ducked out from behind her he was two feet away at him right away
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[SPEAKER_02]: That ninja shit is so funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love when they do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That shit is so funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of my favorite running bits.
53:38.362 --> 53:39.343
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, not running bits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite bits of it was in.
53:43.285 --> 53:53.772
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna get the run right, but it was definitely in this, like, battle for the cowl, post battle for the cowl era, right before the new fifty two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was tacked by Scott Snyder.
53:57.197 --> 54:01.280
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dick Grayson arrives to answer that signal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, it's very clear that, oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're not him, but I can't tell who you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not really talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's clear that he's like, yeah, I know you're not the regular Batman, but like you're working on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Gordon's relaying information about the case, and he keeps talking, and he turns around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not just Batman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it turns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Dick is still there as Batman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why'd you stop talking?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Gordon's like, you're still here.
54:29.506 --> 54:32.828
[SPEAKER_01]: That is like, you're still telling me details of the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Gordon's like, you're definitely not him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You always left by now.
54:37.752 --> 54:41.675
[SPEAKER_01]: And they just stand there for like three panels, not moving, eventually ditches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just leaves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's hysterical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they duck out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second people turn the backs all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and so Tim is thinking he's like Bruce Tutt trusts Lucius with the company.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to trust him with everything.
54:56.069 --> 54:59.891
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to assume that she's put it all together, even though we've never said the words out loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she's had to put it together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I can trust her after everything we went through and then dot dot dot
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[SPEAKER_02]: God, she's gorgeous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I said earlier, this is Tim's swirl era.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim, it's just notable to me that back to back, Tim has black girlfriends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because he dates so in, and then breaks up with her in one, eighty-three, and then he's with Tam here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, just trying new stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just trying new stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not enough new stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not enough new stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because he this wing story and he's monologing and He's like I should have gone to I should have told Dick when I saw him, but I didn't I always plan to go with Superman, but Alfred Alfred deserves to know Bruce was a son to him and he's alive And he says Bruce is alive and Tim starts to smile because it's like part is alive and so Connor and he is smiling ear to ear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's so happy to see Connor
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and he interrupts with your face is going to break if you keep that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, your face wasn't that great to be done with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause he's smiling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, uh, this is one of the only times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and crypto is also here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Being a much better dog than he is in the much more well behaved, but I just re-reportive adventure comics, not super well behaved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, um, Connor's costume.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, costume and big air quotes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is a t-shirt and jeans, but the tightest black tea he could find.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Three sizes too small.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A pair of what appears to be Pau's Wranglers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Big ass belt buckle like a regular belt with big gold buckle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just black boots.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like, does do just left the form.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a leather cuff for a bracelet and that's the only hint to his much cooler costume era.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is is that like the t-shirt works in some contexts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought it really worked in team titan specifically because one derger was also wearing the t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so they're matching each other.
57:15.895 --> 57:26.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were kind of matching each other and then like kid flash got to be looking like a flash and then problems that like I just it worked in that context, but it this book, it's just so funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this is his costume.
57:27.686 --> 57:30.709
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what he fights crime in, but it just looks like he's having a visit of friend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it looks like he just got done helping Paul with something on the farm and then took off a shirt that he was wearing over this shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's discarded flannel that's like covered in dust.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like still back on the farm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, Paul is dead right now, so he was helping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the other Superman thing where they're like, is Paul alive?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He might be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, every time they reboot the universe, they bring him back.
57:57.327 --> 58:10.617
[SPEAKER_02]: because like in the currents of pause alive, there's in, I think it's the summer of Superman special, like a big wind sweep spa away while he's trying to get everybody into the tornado cellar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you mean literally the thing that happens in this accident or Superman movie?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they save him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
58:18.484 --> 58:21.786
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cause that pocket's eaten by a tornado.
58:22.267 --> 58:24.088
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he just, Pod just gets thrown by it.
58:24.168 --> 58:25.729
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's just, he's like, ah!
58:27.904 --> 58:29.666
[SPEAKER_02]: He just looks like he's in distress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, somebody help him, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, he goes, ah!
58:36.231 --> 58:37.572
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, oh shit.
58:39.373 --> 58:40.014
[SPEAKER_02]: But they grab him.
58:41.054 --> 58:45.138
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Tim and Connor are catching up.
58:45.238 --> 58:50.762
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne, air quotes, is talking to Vicky Vale.
58:52.160 --> 58:56.082
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is like, you know, evading my questions is just gonna make me ask more questions.
58:56.242 --> 58:58.183
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm pretty sure I can drink you another table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We should get you that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a reporter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, uh, I'm pretty sure I can drink you another table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can quit with the endless refills.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to at least a hundred pounds on you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a journalist.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I ask questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I write in a drink.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now are you gonna answer the question?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was distracted by your dress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You look fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She looks great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Marcus to address the hot lady.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, she's like, okay, what happens when you run out of money?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you gonna bankrupt Wayne Enterprises?
59:28.822 --> 59:29.983
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, let's dance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you're not taking this seriously Bruce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is so funny because it's Tommy pretending to be Bruce.
59:38.369 --> 59:39.950
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy is a fucking brain surgeon.
59:41.391 --> 59:43.073
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's a very smart guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's pretending to be Bruce and just leaning into Bruce's public persona being a moron.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing a very good job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, you're not taking the seriously says, oh, I am.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just waiting for you to ask the questions you really want to ask.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, you've always been generous to Gotham over time.
01:00:01.873 --> 01:00:04.174
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it says over time years.
01:00:04.574 --> 01:00:06.355
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not right.
01:00:09.741 --> 01:00:11.803
[SPEAKER_02]: Which says you've always been shit.
01:00:11.823 --> 01:00:11.903
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
01:00:12.203 --> 01:00:13.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep over time.
01:00:13.164 --> 01:00:14.586
[SPEAKER_01]: It should say over the years.
01:00:14.746 --> 01:00:16.628
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but never like this.
01:00:16.868 --> 01:00:17.328
[SPEAKER_02]: Why now?
01:00:17.769 --> 01:00:18.209
[SPEAKER_02]: Why wait?
01:00:18.509 --> 01:00:19.090
[SPEAKER_02]: Life is short.
01:00:19.350 --> 01:00:20.331
[SPEAKER_02]: What else would I do with the money?
01:00:20.852 --> 01:00:22.894
[SPEAKER_02]: You tell me what else do you do with your money?
01:00:24.956 --> 01:00:26.037
[SPEAKER_02]: Ski wo, don't worry about it.
01:00:28.064 --> 01:00:30.425
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he doesn't do anything else with the money other people do.
01:00:30.485 --> 01:00:30.685
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:00:30.765 --> 01:00:32.565
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's hard to ask him about Tim Drake.
01:00:32.845 --> 01:00:35.206
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's like, uh, let's talk about your family.
01:00:35.366 --> 01:00:38.286
[SPEAKER_02]: You've never married since that's not a bitterness.
01:00:38.347 --> 01:00:39.327
[SPEAKER_02]: I detect this Adviki.
01:00:39.607 --> 01:00:40.407
[SPEAKER_02]: She's never married.
01:00:40.527 --> 01:00:41.707
[SPEAKER_02]: She stays right on track.
01:00:42.447 --> 01:00:43.368
[SPEAKER_02]: She stays right on track.
01:00:43.388 --> 01:00:45.508
[SPEAKER_02]: She says, mother fucker, you're not getting away from this.
01:00:45.528 --> 01:00:50.009
[SPEAKER_01]: She says, he is better at interviews than a lot of people are.
01:00:50.109 --> 01:00:52.450
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's very calm, cool and collected here.
01:00:52.950 --> 01:00:59.453
[SPEAKER_02]: She says, uh, uh, you've never married, you have two adopted sons and speaking of Tim Drake hasn't been seen in some time.
01:00:59.754 --> 01:01:00.414
[SPEAKER_02]: He studied hard.
01:01:00.994 --> 01:01:02.235
[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't been in school for weeks.
01:01:02.335 --> 01:01:02.815
[SPEAKER_02]: I called.
01:01:03.035 --> 01:01:03.496
[SPEAKER_02]: So where's he?
01:01:03.776 --> 01:01:04.016
[SPEAKER_02]: Huh?
01:01:06.297 --> 01:01:07.438
[SPEAKER_01]: He's literally like, go idea.
01:01:07.498 --> 01:01:09.159
[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't seen it for weeks as you say.
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:10.739
[SPEAKER_01]: He's hard to keep track of boys.
01:01:10.759 --> 01:01:12.660
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, people is how fucking nobody's doing.
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:13.461
[SPEAKER_02]: He's your son.
01:01:15.924 --> 01:01:24.688
[SPEAKER_01]: Seventeen rolls was legally your son, and I'm just telling you that he hasn't been in school, and you're very like, well, fuck, fuck's that gonna do with me?
01:01:26.249 --> 01:01:27.690
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not my problem.
01:01:28.230 --> 01:01:30.271
[SPEAKER_02]: Tam narrates and she's like, I can't believe this.
01:01:30.451 --> 01:01:31.512
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot believe this.
01:01:31.932 --> 01:01:33.533
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot believe this.
01:01:33.693 --> 01:01:35.874
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot believe I have to find Tim Drake again.
01:01:37.195 --> 01:01:39.976
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she gets in a cab and she's like, I hate Tim Drake.
01:01:40.536 --> 01:01:41.477
[SPEAKER_02]: God, he's cute though.
01:01:43.378 --> 01:01:44.038
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to Tim and Carl.
01:01:49.603 --> 01:01:55.612
[SPEAKER_01]: I walked into this book being like, I remember that their friends in this, actually, before we get into this, I didn't be so clear.
01:01:55.652 --> 01:02:00.600
[SPEAKER_01]: When I first read this book, and when I first read all those teen titans, runs and everything, I did not.
01:02:01.140 --> 01:02:02.001
[SPEAKER_01]: I was fourteen.
01:02:02.021 --> 01:02:04.763
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not know that I was queer.
01:02:04.783 --> 01:02:07.326
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not know any gay people in real life.
01:02:07.786 --> 01:02:09.507
[SPEAKER_01]: It had never been a topic of conversation.
01:02:09.567 --> 01:02:10.348
[SPEAKER_01]: It had just not come up.
01:02:10.528 --> 01:02:12.670
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like, oh, you can never speak about this.
01:02:12.710 --> 01:02:14.271
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was truly like, it had never come up.
01:02:14.372 --> 01:02:16.093
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't in any media I ever really saw.
01:02:16.113 --> 01:02:21.157
[SPEAKER_01]: I had not been introduced to the concept of queer people yet at that point in my life.
01:02:21.458 --> 01:02:23.860
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I did not read anything into their friendship.
01:02:23.900 --> 01:02:25.381
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my gosh, they're best friends.
01:02:25.441 --> 01:02:26.042
[SPEAKER_01]: What a tragedy.
01:02:26.867 --> 01:02:28.669
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that he lost his best friend, Needai.
01:02:28.729 --> 01:02:29.830
[SPEAKER_01]: No, how exciting it is.
01:02:29.850 --> 01:02:30.911
[SPEAKER_01]: The best friend is back.
01:02:31.351 --> 01:02:32.632
[SPEAKER_01]: And I haven't read this issue.
01:02:33.553 --> 01:02:36.135
[SPEAKER_01]: Not since that day necessarily, but like certainly since high school.
01:02:36.175 --> 01:02:38.177
[SPEAKER_01]: It has, it has been some time.
01:02:38.257 --> 01:02:38.637
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:02:38.777 --> 01:02:42.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, twelve, twelve plus years since I had read this issue.
01:02:43.121 --> 01:02:44.402
[SPEAKER_01]: These people are in love.
01:02:45.043 --> 01:02:48.766
[SPEAKER_01]: These two are in love.
01:02:48.786 --> 01:02:53.150
[SPEAKER_01]: Two drink is in love with Connor Kent.
01:02:53.745 --> 01:03:00.028
[SPEAKER_01]: he said he is such a crush on this guy he says.
01:03:01.029 --> 01:03:04.731
[SPEAKER_02]: Connor goes why why so happy let me guess sale and let it leather.
01:03:05.631 --> 01:03:08.653
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to get you to get matching chapter.
01:03:10.154 --> 01:03:14.496
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is he's like you're going to get matching chaps is that it that's insane.
01:03:16.457 --> 01:03:18.618
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tim just doesn't say anything and hugs him.
01:03:19.733 --> 01:03:24.019
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, uh, Tim, buddy, if you're trying to be all dark and grim now, this isn't gonna help.
01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:25.822
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, you're alive.
01:03:26.082 --> 01:03:27.124
[SPEAKER_02]: We covered this, I thought.
01:03:27.925 --> 01:03:31.791
[SPEAKER_02]: You're dead, Bart was dead, and you don't know what that was like, and now you're back.
01:03:32.508 --> 01:03:34.629
[SPEAKER_02]: says, I know, and so did you.
01:03:34.649 --> 01:03:40.611
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I knew that you were, you were back that Bart was back, but it happened so fast.
01:03:40.651 --> 01:03:42.812
[SPEAKER_02]: I never, I never let it soak in.
01:03:42.872 --> 01:03:45.553
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you found me in Paris, I was in a bad place.
01:03:45.954 --> 01:03:52.696
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim is all, listen, they're very few places where you know that Tim is not in a good spot, then Paris.
01:03:54.677 --> 01:03:56.358
[SPEAKER_02]: If Tim is in France, something is going wrong.
01:03:59.315 --> 01:04:02.798
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time he goes to France, every time it's because something is going wrong.
01:04:04.080 --> 01:04:06.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Something terrible happens to him every time he's embarrassed.
01:04:07.002 --> 01:04:12.428
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, and then con asks, and now when he says, now, now I'm in a good place.
01:04:12.988 --> 01:04:14.189
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like he fell and something didn't you.
01:04:14.790 --> 01:04:16.131
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just say I'm getting there.
01:04:18.353 --> 01:04:18.914
[SPEAKER_02]: How can I help?
01:04:19.254 --> 01:04:22.177
[SPEAKER_02]: I still got a couple of things to say, care of, and then then I'll be back.
01:04:23.228 --> 01:04:24.470
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good because we miss you.
01:04:24.730 --> 01:04:26.813
[SPEAKER_02]: Cassie, Bart, we all miss you, Tim.
01:04:27.574 --> 01:04:28.575
[SPEAKER_02]: If you need me, just yell.
01:04:28.875 --> 01:04:29.296
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll hear you.
01:04:29.837 --> 01:04:30.618
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you will, Connor.
01:04:31.038 --> 01:04:31.459
[SPEAKER_02]: And thanks.
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.281
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at the face that Tim is making.
01:04:33.301 --> 01:04:33.341
[SPEAKER_02]: No!
01:04:34.523 --> 01:04:37.286
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll take this apart.
01:04:37.326 --> 01:04:38.768
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just waiting for you to get down with the dial.
01:04:40.068 --> 01:04:40.588
[SPEAKER_02]: He says.
01:04:40.708 --> 01:04:43.330
[SPEAKER_01]: And thanks for what for believing in me.
01:04:44.550 --> 01:04:48.412
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he steers up at the sky with this big ass smile on his face.
01:04:48.873 --> 01:04:52.175
[SPEAKER_01]: It's I'm getting, I was getting when I read these pages.
01:04:52.235 --> 01:04:54.296
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, this is so good.
01:04:54.596 --> 01:05:00.799
[SPEAKER_01]: So to anybody who might be confused as to whether or not they thought Tim was bisexual.
01:05:01.219 --> 01:05:02.940
[SPEAKER_01]: They obviously never read this country.
01:05:03.140 --> 01:05:04.261
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:05:04.681 --> 01:05:05.842
[SPEAKER_01]: He is in love.
01:05:06.102 --> 01:05:06.882
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing is
01:05:08.263 --> 01:05:24.853
[SPEAKER_01]: Well actually the vibe I get here is that he's in love with Conner and Conner is not like Conner's like I am your friend Tim's like I My life was bad without you my life was wrong without you quick note I think that this scene is to patch up the timeline and consistencies.
01:05:24.913 --> 01:05:37.781
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because I was having a hard time with it Conner comes back like a according to cover dates like a year Maybe like eight months before this issue comes out, but my thought is is that like
01:05:38.797 --> 01:05:49.945
[SPEAKER_01]: The the first arc of this red Robin book was so dependent on Tim being alone and him being alone was also so dependent on like most of his friends being dead like
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Other than the back people, he has one living friend in that's Cassie.
01:05:55.282 --> 01:05:57.183
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one living super person friend.
01:05:58.004 --> 01:05:59.365
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, one living super person friend.
01:05:59.385 --> 01:06:00.045
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's Cassie.
01:06:00.085 --> 01:06:01.886
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm very beginning of this book.
01:06:01.946 --> 01:06:03.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just hanging out here in the same the weeks.
01:06:04.768 --> 01:06:06.109
[SPEAKER_01]: He shows him the background at one point.
01:06:06.569 --> 01:06:10.672
[SPEAKER_01]: But like he talks to Cassie in a cemetery in like issue three before he leaves.
01:06:11.312 --> 01:06:19.078
[SPEAKER_01]: and she's like trying to get him to process his grief and he's like, no, Cassie, um, Bruce is alive and she's like, no, no, Tim, you're doing this thing again.
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:19.959
[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing it again.
01:06:19.979 --> 01:06:21.060
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to like accept the people who have died.
01:06:21.080 --> 01:06:27.085
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
01:06:27.956 --> 01:06:28.697
[SPEAKER_01]: We can help you.
01:06:28.777 --> 01:06:31.120
[SPEAKER_01]: We can support you and he's just like, fuck you.
01:06:31.240 --> 01:06:32.101
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't believe me.
01:06:32.341 --> 01:06:33.022
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm leaving.
01:06:33.042 --> 01:06:34.363
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he fucking says.
01:06:34.744 --> 01:06:37.187
[SPEAKER_01]: And he, she's like, no, damn, come back.
01:06:37.207 --> 01:06:38.908
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, he calls Dick.
01:06:38.928 --> 01:06:39.729
[SPEAKER_02]: She calls Dick.
01:06:40.590 --> 01:06:43.574
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, you, please help him.
01:06:44.034 --> 01:06:45.176
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is go get your boy.
01:06:45.996 --> 01:06:52.461
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim has experienced so much grief in the last like four years of his life that to everyone else, it's like, oh, this is it.
01:06:52.521 --> 01:06:53.401
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the one that breaks him.
01:06:53.822 --> 01:06:55.162
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the one that just snapped.
01:06:55.383 --> 01:06:56.123
[SPEAKER_02]: He's lost his mind.
01:06:56.163 --> 01:06:57.264
[SPEAKER_01]: His mom died.
01:06:57.404 --> 01:06:58.585
[SPEAKER_01]: His dad died.
01:06:59.625 --> 01:07:01.387
[SPEAKER_02]: The city of blood haven was nuped.
01:07:02.045 --> 01:07:03.466
[SPEAKER_01]: The city of blood haven was nubbed.
01:07:04.007 --> 01:07:05.629
[SPEAKER_01]: Steph bigger quotes died.
01:07:05.669 --> 01:07:07.110
[SPEAKER_01]: She's back now, but they're fighting.
01:07:07.711 --> 01:07:11.935
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Bruce died of not in order, but the Bruce died, also bigger quotes.
01:07:12.315 --> 01:07:14.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Bart dies, Connor dies.
01:07:14.498 --> 01:07:16.980
[SPEAKER_01]: He attempts to clone Connor nine to eight times.
01:07:17.080 --> 01:07:18.482
[SPEAKER_01]: He fails every single time.
01:07:18.762 --> 01:07:20.644
[SPEAKER_01]: He does not succeed in bringing Connor back.
01:07:21.184 --> 01:07:25.509
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like he just snaps one of his classmates gets sniped in front of him.
01:07:26.395 --> 01:07:30.217
[SPEAKER_02]: to write next to him, like him and Darlah are having a conversation.
01:07:30.697 --> 01:07:33.058
[SPEAKER_01]: And she is on the ground.
01:07:33.439 --> 01:07:36.680
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she gets resurrected as a demon and tries to murder him.
01:07:37.501 --> 01:07:39.141
[SPEAKER_01]: He deceit you for like thirty minutes.
01:07:39.642 --> 01:07:40.082
[SPEAKER_01]: And she dies.
01:07:40.202 --> 01:07:41.282
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he doesn't.
01:07:41.323 --> 01:07:41.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:07:42.503 --> 01:07:45.064
[SPEAKER_02]: His dad dies and he cradles his dead body.
01:07:45.144 --> 01:07:50.047
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Tim has been through so much in such a short period of time that to everyone else, it's like, hey,
01:07:52.592 --> 01:08:00.512
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody like this guy is not okay and Absolutely crazy and so
01:08:01.610 --> 01:08:05.891
[SPEAKER_01]: But at some point, in the book, like, Tim is still from most of the book.
01:08:05.991 --> 01:08:11.413
[SPEAKER_01]: Tim is still acting like Connor is dead, but at the same time in publication history, Connor's like, back.
01:08:12.593 --> 01:08:16.414
[SPEAKER_01]: And, like, not just back, but like, the very first thing that Connor does.
01:08:16.554 --> 01:08:21.716
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't re-read this book in years, but I remember it when, because he gets resurrected in the future, so does Bart.
01:08:21.856 --> 01:08:22.396
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
01:08:22.416 --> 01:08:22.916
[SPEAKER_01]: They call kids.
01:08:22.936 --> 01:08:24.657
[SPEAKER_01]: They use superheroes.
01:08:25.077 --> 01:08:28.558
[SPEAKER_01]: And they both show up at the same time, and the very first thing they do, both of them go to Titans Tower.
01:08:29.278 --> 01:08:34.122
[SPEAKER_01]: The very first thing they're going to tell you, he says hi to in this order, I believe it's wonder girl and then Tim.
01:08:34.583 --> 01:08:40.648
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, hi, Cassie, my girlfriend who helped me while I died and also hi, Tim and Tim like, cannot handle it.
01:08:41.009 --> 01:08:42.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Tim cannot.
01:08:42.650 --> 01:08:44.272
[SPEAKER_02]: He just leaves, he's like, what the fuck?
01:08:44.352 --> 01:08:45.673
[SPEAKER_01]: He just leaves.
01:08:45.993 --> 01:08:48.916
[SPEAKER_01]: He hugs them and then he's gone and then he's doing things in this bucket.
01:08:48.936 --> 01:08:50.958
[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like the scene was to patch up the fact that like,
01:08:52.252 --> 01:08:55.254
[SPEAKER_01]: to explain why up until now he has not been acting like coders alive.
01:08:55.294 --> 01:08:58.536
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, logically, I knew you were around, but I need to look for the proof.
01:08:59.116 --> 01:09:01.237
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I'm going through a lot.
01:09:02.218 --> 01:09:02.478
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
01:09:02.938 --> 01:09:03.459
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go through it.
01:09:04.099 --> 01:09:09.122
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, key coders, the first person, other racial goal to just believe him.
01:09:10.903 --> 01:09:17.627
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't happen in this, well, it happens in this scene in this Robin book, but it mostly happens in that adventure comics issue, which comes out like,
01:09:18.608 --> 01:09:20.650
[SPEAKER_01]: four months before four or five months beforehand.
01:09:20.890 --> 01:09:21.750
[SPEAKER_01]: Also written by Jeff Johns.
01:09:23.552 --> 01:09:28.135
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the two of them talking in Paris catacombs.
01:09:28.155 --> 01:09:33.119
[SPEAKER_01]: They're looking for Lex Luthar lab and they find the lab and it's trash and there's nothing left.
01:09:33.480 --> 01:09:38.784
[SPEAKER_01]: And coders like, oh wow, he must have moved all his stuff and Tim's like, he didn't move all his stuff.
01:09:39.144 --> 01:09:39.845
[SPEAKER_01]: I stole it.
01:09:39.965 --> 01:09:43.768
[SPEAKER_01]: I took all his stuff and coders like, this all looked like cloning technology and Tim's like,
01:09:44.488 --> 01:09:45.309
[SPEAKER_01]: I got something to tell you.
01:09:45.329 --> 01:09:48.852
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really did not take that well.
01:09:49.392 --> 01:09:55.497
[SPEAKER_01]: So I tried to clone you and Conner's like, even if you had succeeded, it wouldn't have been me and Tim's like, that's what Cassie said.
01:09:55.517 --> 01:10:01.622
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they both just sit down and they both share their trauma a little bit more.
01:10:01.642 --> 01:10:03.223
[SPEAKER_01]: They talk about more stuff that's not relevant here.
01:10:03.824 --> 01:10:04.765
[SPEAKER_01]: Frances Maddie.
01:10:04.785 --> 01:10:05.805
[SPEAKER_02]: Frances Maddie.
01:10:05.845 --> 01:10:06.546
[SPEAKER_01]: She's great.
01:10:06.806 --> 01:10:11.370
[SPEAKER_01]: She's just sitting like wordlessly for many panels in a row.
01:10:11.490 --> 01:10:13.832
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Tim had to know where it just goes versus a left.
01:10:14.719 --> 01:10:17.721
[SPEAKER_01]: And the very next panel, Connor, goes, I believe you.
01:10:18.141 --> 01:10:18.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:10:18.521 --> 01:10:21.462
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the first time anyone has ever told him that.
01:10:21.823 --> 01:10:24.624
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're not crazy.
01:10:24.664 --> 01:10:28.626
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like it's like confirmation like you're not crazy.
01:10:29.306 --> 01:10:34.349
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's from the person I think he needed it most from anyone else.
01:10:34.789 --> 01:10:36.650
[SPEAKER_02]: He would have felt like they were patronizing him.
01:10:37.325 --> 01:10:47.173
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, but Connor is so genuine and he's just like, no, you say he's alive, I believe you because you're the one with the brains out of the woman, the brawn and the tactile telekinesis and that's how this friendship works.
01:10:47.354 --> 01:10:54.760
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, because like from Connor, or yeah, from Connor's perspective, how often his team had believed something this firmly and been wrong about it.
01:10:56.844 --> 01:10:57.804
[SPEAKER_01]: None.
01:10:58.664 --> 01:11:04.026
[SPEAKER_01]: He believed he could clone Connor that but he was wrong about that, but Connor didn't see that.
01:11:04.306 --> 01:11:05.686
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:11:06.586 --> 01:11:08.166
[SPEAKER_02]: So Tim kind of smiles to himself.
01:11:08.186 --> 01:11:10.587
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, this right here, this moment, this is good.
01:11:10.847 --> 01:11:12.427
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna live in this moment just for a while.
01:11:13.688 --> 01:11:15.008
[SPEAKER_02]: And then race as he was here.
01:11:15.128 --> 01:11:15.888
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, Timothy.
01:11:15.908 --> 01:11:18.008
[SPEAKER_02]: This is how can I help you race?
01:11:18.909 --> 01:11:19.769
[SPEAKER_02]: How can I help you race?
01:11:19.789 --> 01:11:20.349
[SPEAKER_02]: Computer trouble.
01:11:22.090 --> 01:11:23.530
[SPEAKER_01]: And he also thinks moments over.
01:11:23.770 --> 01:11:24.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Ray Shoggle.
01:11:24.991 --> 01:11:28.751
[SPEAKER_02]: Since you should leave the humor to Richard Timothy, he's better at than you are.
01:11:29.311 --> 01:11:32.392
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm calling to make sure you are ready for what is about to happen.
01:11:32.772 --> 01:11:33.652
[SPEAKER_02]: And what's about to happen?
01:11:33.952 --> 01:11:35.233
[SPEAKER_02]: Your punishment, of course.
01:11:35.873 --> 01:11:40.093
[SPEAKER_02]: I told you there would be a price to pay for your actions against the league of assassins.
01:11:40.754 --> 01:11:42.534
[SPEAKER_02]: So what, pistols at dawn?
01:11:42.974 --> 01:11:44.654
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the line that I was telling you about earlier.
01:11:45.074 --> 01:11:47.395
[SPEAKER_02]: That is such a deep cut, Tim Joke.
01:11:50.026 --> 01:11:56.755
[SPEAKER_02]: So back in the era where Tim is like the loose and woods era like when Stephanie had the Bob.
01:11:56.775 --> 01:12:03.484
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim realizes that the elevator attendant in his building has a crush on Stephanie.
01:12:05.563 --> 01:12:16.268
[SPEAKER_02]: and he says his narration is oh he's got a crush on Steph meet and he says so what will it be pistols at dawn and the guy goes what is nothing
01:12:20.971 --> 01:12:35.449
[SPEAKER_01]: Like those to did his homework like that's such a threat like all hundred issues of this though You know what I think is more likely based on the books that you was was writing all through the two thousands he was probably just reading this as it was coming out.
01:12:35.549 --> 01:12:35.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
01:12:35.829 --> 01:12:39.591
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably just like reading Robin at the time because like he was for Marvel.
01:12:39.631 --> 01:12:41.012
[SPEAKER_01]: He was exclusive in Marvel at the time.
01:12:41.032 --> 01:12:43.414
[SPEAKER_01]: But he was writing the teen superhero book.
01:12:43.934 --> 01:12:48.077
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can understand why you would probably want to know what's going on and like all the other.
01:12:48.157 --> 01:12:49.237
[SPEAKER_01]: He was writing the book.
01:12:49.298 --> 01:12:51.219
[SPEAKER_02]: And like Robin was like to do.
01:12:51.899 --> 01:12:52.059
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:12:52.099 --> 01:12:52.700
[SPEAKER_01]: He was also writing.
01:12:52.740 --> 01:12:52.920
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:54.141
[SPEAKER_01]: He was writing X-Men Evolution.
01:12:55.902 --> 01:12:57.763
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah.
01:12:59.500 --> 01:13:07.265
[SPEAKER_01]: I am of the opinion that like teen superheroes as a genre has more cross appeal between DC and Marvel than any of the other.
01:13:07.705 --> 01:13:07.945
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:13:08.205 --> 01:13:08.565
[SPEAKER_01]: Things.
01:13:09.346 --> 01:13:11.547
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, most like is that's how I got into all of it.
01:13:11.607 --> 01:13:12.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that started reading all the teen heroes?
01:13:12.988 --> 01:13:15.149
[SPEAKER_02]: Super heroes are the perfect on ramp.
01:13:15.710 --> 01:13:16.950
[SPEAKER_02]: They are critically.
01:13:16.990 --> 01:13:17.711
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, critically.
01:13:17.731 --> 01:13:18.471
[SPEAKER_02]: To all this other shit.
01:13:19.152 --> 01:13:19.912
[SPEAKER_01]: They're so important.
01:13:21.153 --> 01:13:22.514
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not everyone's cup of tea.
01:13:22.594 --> 01:13:23.114
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fine.
01:13:23.154 --> 01:13:24.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Not everyone has to read them.
01:13:24.275 --> 01:13:25.716
[SPEAKER_01]: But like they have to exist.
01:13:25.736 --> 01:13:27.557
[SPEAKER_01]: They're always has to be an entry point of like
01:13:28.333 --> 01:13:42.957
[SPEAKER_01]: Something that I always really liked when I was a literal teenager reading all these comics was that some kind of people made really bad decisions and that's what drove the plot forward versus I felt like with the adult superheroes the adult superheroes were never allowed to just make mistakes or like be unreasonable like
01:13:45.098 --> 01:13:48.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I felt like it always meant that the plans, especially in Batman.
01:13:48.281 --> 01:13:53.885
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I felt like it meant that the villains' plans had all be so convoluted because Bruce could never make a mistake because he was Batman.
01:13:53.925 --> 01:13:56.287
[SPEAKER_01]: It would like ruin the power fantasy, but Robin could just make it.
01:13:56.307 --> 01:13:56.947
[SPEAKER_02]: Robin can fuck up.
01:13:56.967 --> 01:13:57.828
[SPEAKER_01]: Robin can fuck up.
01:13:57.848 --> 01:14:01.751
[SPEAKER_01]: He could just be like, um, I didn't want to look at the naked lady and so she kicked my ass.
01:14:02.611 --> 01:14:02.771
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:14:03.312 --> 01:14:03.872
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, like.
01:14:04.733 --> 01:14:09.917
[SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite things that ever happens in that book is at Carl Rank's funeral.
01:14:11.317 --> 01:14:17.731
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim sees Stephanie there and he's like looking at her because he's like why the fuck is Stephanie here?
01:14:19.148 --> 01:14:20.969
[SPEAKER_02]: because they don't, she doesn't know him yet.
01:14:21.189 --> 01:14:22.729
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not dating and he's still with Ariana.
01:14:23.070 --> 01:14:25.831
[SPEAKER_02]: He's looking at her and he's like, why the fuck is she here?
01:14:25.971 --> 01:14:27.031
[SPEAKER_02]: How did she know Carl?
01:14:27.291 --> 01:14:28.592
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's what he's trying to figure out.
01:14:29.692 --> 01:14:31.513
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's also like, does she recognize me?
01:14:32.593 --> 01:14:34.734
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, wow, this could go really sideways.
01:14:34.754 --> 01:14:36.155
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's just running over in his head.
01:14:36.775 --> 01:14:41.457
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Ariana looks at him and sees him looking at her and she's like, why are you looking at that girl?
01:14:42.177 --> 01:14:43.457
[SPEAKER_01]: And check it out another girl.
01:14:43.497 --> 01:14:44.638
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you checking out that blog?
01:14:44.818 --> 01:14:48.319
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tim's like, uh, I like, uh, you know, I, I'm embarrassed.
01:14:48.339 --> 01:14:48.859
[SPEAKER_02]: I was embarrassed.
01:14:48.899 --> 01:14:49.219
[SPEAKER_02]: I made it.
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:50.660
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, you know, I think she looks pretty.
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:51.220
[SPEAKER_02]: I like her hair.
01:14:52.060 --> 01:14:54.261
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's such a stupid lie.
01:14:55.321 --> 01:14:55.941
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so dumb.
01:14:56.822 --> 01:14:58.502
[SPEAKER_02]: But it works because he's fifteen.
01:14:59.422 --> 01:14:59.582
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:15:02.123 --> 01:15:03.004
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.
01:15:03.024 --> 01:15:07.245
[SPEAKER_02]: There's also the issue where a huntress is there because this is when hunters is like a school teacher.
01:15:10.734 --> 01:15:31.673
[SPEAKER_02]: and she's busted his balls lightly like she's like ah you know kid whatever because she started to kind of put together like oh that's Robin yeah and Ariana's like weirdly hostile she's like what's going on with her and it seems like she is a teacher because this is not that new X-Men run yes
01:15:33.202 --> 01:15:35.363
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not have teenagers and teachers together.
01:15:35.703 --> 01:15:40.144
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's like, she's a teacher and she was, she saw me in the woods.
01:15:40.944 --> 01:15:42.624
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, she's like, uh-huh.
01:15:42.884 --> 01:15:44.125
[SPEAKER_02]: What, it's like, aren't you on it?
01:15:44.145 --> 01:15:48.226
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that Tim is having an affair with this grown woman?
01:15:48.326 --> 01:15:48.566
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:15:49.486 --> 01:15:50.286
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she does.
01:15:55.022 --> 01:15:57.923
[SPEAKER_02]: The race says, the league of assassins is my legacy.
01:15:58.323 --> 01:16:04.664
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems only fair that I have everyone that Bruce Wayne ever loved, everything he ever built destroyed.
01:16:05.384 --> 01:16:07.864
[SPEAKER_02]: The Batman, have no legacy.
01:16:08.685 --> 01:16:09.985
[SPEAKER_02]: In terms of, I know you're in Gotham.
01:16:10.005 --> 01:16:12.805
[SPEAKER_02]: If you try to start a war, it is already begun.
01:16:13.346 --> 01:16:15.706
[SPEAKER_02]: The first casualty has already been chosen.
01:16:16.886 --> 01:16:17.966
[SPEAKER_02]: Good luck, detective.
01:16:18.787 --> 01:16:20.627
[SPEAKER_02]: In terms of the fuck, I'm toast.
01:16:22.516 --> 01:16:28.139
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that he thinks no time for ego hurt feelings, pay disagreements, it's all in the past as he drives towards the mansion.
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:29.080
[SPEAKER_01]: And he'd help.
01:16:29.180 --> 01:16:30.120
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do this by myself.
01:16:30.261 --> 01:16:31.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Ration is everything about us inside and out.
01:16:32.082 --> 01:16:33.743
[SPEAKER_01]: I need Batman, Robin, Oracle, Hunter.
01:16:33.763 --> 01:16:34.983
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't think of anyone's help.
01:16:35.063 --> 01:16:36.164
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't take right about me.
01:16:36.204 --> 01:16:37.064
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the top of the series.
01:16:37.084 --> 01:16:38.125
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:38.145 --> 01:16:39.106
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:39.126 --> 01:16:40.326
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:40.366 --> 01:16:41.427
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:41.467 --> 01:16:42.187
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:42.207 --> 01:16:43.148
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:43.488 --> 01:16:44.429
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:44.529 --> 01:16:45.609
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:45.629 --> 01:16:46.490
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:46.510 --> 01:16:48.011
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:48.031 --> 01:16:49.191
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:49.311 --> 01:16:50.392
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:50.412 --> 01:16:51.393
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is in the end of the game.
01:16:51.473 --> 01:16:51.853
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is
01:16:52.835 --> 01:17:01.319
[SPEAKER_01]: because Dick and Damian left to go be in the cool hallway underground bunker, looking situation that's totally, totally based off of the dark night.
01:17:01.459 --> 01:17:02.399
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:17:02.620 --> 01:17:04.881
[SPEAKER_02]: So then we go to issue ten.
01:17:04.961 --> 01:17:06.481
[SPEAKER_02]: This is probably my favorite cover here.
01:17:07.562 --> 01:17:16.166
[SPEAKER_02]: The Tim and Stephanie with the cross staffs, caves, and then you see the, like in the background is them as Robin and spoiler.
01:17:16.186 --> 01:17:17.466
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:17:18.167 --> 01:17:20.328
[SPEAKER_01]: In between, and we're not going to cover it.
01:17:20.408 --> 01:17:21.008
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we did.
01:17:22.317 --> 01:17:25.940
[SPEAKER_01]: In between, there's a crossover where they go to back girl issue number eight.
01:17:26.621 --> 01:17:37.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, go see that other episode in which they talk and have feelings that are exes and deodiodiod and they save Thompson's life because she's the first target.
01:17:38.030 --> 01:17:40.452
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that they can never decide how old Leslie is.
01:17:40.673 --> 01:17:43.015
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you want to talk about a character whose age fluctuates.
01:17:43.155 --> 01:17:46.477
[SPEAKER_02]: Leslie is either she's got a real Aunt Mazda bridge going on.
01:17:46.818 --> 01:17:49.420
[SPEAKER_02]: She's either ninety seven years old or forty.
01:17:50.892 --> 01:17:57.840
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it, I think I'm glad that they decided for like the character designed that even if you draw her young, you still have to give her gray hair.
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.804
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she just started going gray at thirty five and we just don't need to ask questions.
01:18:01.944 --> 01:18:02.104
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:18:02.845 --> 01:18:04.227
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the summary here.
01:18:04.447 --> 01:18:07.830
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Tim and Steph, the work Leslie's assassination.
01:18:10.845 --> 01:18:19.750
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love I do there are two things about this page that I really like one Tim's stance Yeah, it's good.
01:18:20.170 --> 01:18:24.672
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got this like old-time e-pugilist thing going on and step the fact
01:18:26.852 --> 01:18:30.414
[SPEAKER_02]: that Stephanie is wearing a completely different dress than when she is wearing a background.
01:18:30.814 --> 01:18:35.237
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know entirely different than the other problem is that the background one is better.
01:18:35.717 --> 01:18:35.957
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:18:36.677 --> 01:18:39.319
[SPEAKER_01]: Because this one just the background one is better.
01:18:39.339 --> 01:18:40.139
[SPEAKER_01]: The background one's better.
01:18:40.179 --> 01:18:43.381
[SPEAKER_01]: The background's like a blade on the cheek hair.
01:18:44.910 --> 01:18:54.814
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be able to move in so it's like rip and her titties are crazy and it's like her titties are crazy and it and this one's fine.
01:18:55.735 --> 01:18:57.336
[SPEAKER_02]: This one is giving high school dance.
01:18:58.456 --> 01:19:02.898
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, even as a literal child I read this and I was like oh, the other one was better.
01:19:03.378 --> 01:19:07.960
[SPEAKER_01]: My guess is that they simply just like had to make both books at the same time and it's different artists.
01:19:08.020 --> 01:19:08.180
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:19:08.820 --> 01:19:12.382
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah different artists and the only thing is like the dress is purple because it's deaf.
01:19:13.889 --> 01:19:15.510
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, both for said purple dress.
01:19:16.591 --> 01:19:26.338
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one thing I do appreciate about the various bat books is that they do understand the assignment with like you must color code or else you're screwed because all these boys look the same.
01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:34.364
[SPEAKER_01]: All of these guys look the same, especially when you get to like having multiple of the robins in one room, other than like Damian is short.
01:19:35.247 --> 01:19:45.574
[SPEAKER_01]: And Bruce is usually like very obviously like tall and big and everything other than that, you can get into a problem where like the other ones are hard to tell giving Jason the white stripe in his hair was crucial.
01:19:46.254 --> 01:19:52.498
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they decided to start alternating that if Tim's hair is long, Dix is short and if Dix hair is long, Tim's is short.
01:19:53.258 --> 01:19:57.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they can't have the same length hair at the same time because that gets confusing.
01:19:58.502 --> 01:20:00.483
[SPEAKER_01]: And thankfully, Steph is the only blonde.
01:20:02.392 --> 01:20:02.972
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, yes.
01:20:03.773 --> 01:20:06.814
[SPEAKER_01]: She's the only blonde in Gotham.
01:20:08.275 --> 01:20:14.358
[SPEAKER_02]: The second, the second that she and Cassie Sand's Mark and Carazole are all near each other.
01:20:14.398 --> 01:20:17.760
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like we need one of you is in red, one of you is in blue, one of you is in purple.
01:20:18.080 --> 01:20:18.780
[SPEAKER_02]: We cannot.
01:20:19.821 --> 01:20:22.102
[SPEAKER_02]: Then all this time differentiating the three of you.
01:20:23.162 --> 01:20:24.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, you got a color code.
01:20:24.884 --> 01:20:28.048
[SPEAKER_01]: So anytime she shows up and she's not in costume, they always put her in purple.
01:20:28.128 --> 01:20:29.470
[SPEAKER_01]: She has to be happy with her purple.
01:20:29.490 --> 01:20:31.273
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, eggplant, biggest purple would have been spicy.
01:20:31.293 --> 01:20:32.013
[SPEAKER_01]: Egg, put your correct.
01:20:32.054 --> 01:20:32.774
[SPEAKER_01]: No, your correct.
01:20:34.236 --> 01:20:34.897
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my favorite.
01:20:35.137 --> 01:20:38.282
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of my favorite Stephanie lines is Tim says something about her costume being purple.
01:20:38.302 --> 01:20:39.283
[SPEAKER_02]: And she says, it's eggplant.
01:20:39.563 --> 01:20:40.585
[SPEAKER_02]: Purple would have been stupid.
01:20:45.722 --> 01:21:14.198
[SPEAKER_01]: and in the final issue back row when they like watch the sun come up this sunrise is purple and they jokingly are just like no it's eggplant and then she like looks out and she's like babbs should I be concerned that the sunrise is eggplant and she can babbs is like it's probably just the sun reflecting off of the smog we live in Gotham it could be anything the sun the sunrise was purple over Gotham today which could mean nothing or it could mean a devastating joker attack
01:21:15.369 --> 01:21:16.010
[SPEAKER_01]: Fifty-fifty.
01:21:16.030 --> 01:21:22.775
[SPEAKER_02]: In other news, the Knights lost five to two last night.
01:21:23.256 --> 01:21:28.380
[SPEAKER_02]: Race is like, Race is talking to one of his ninjas, who he's definitely going to kill after this.
01:21:29.421 --> 01:21:29.721
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
01:21:29.982 --> 01:21:30.282
[SPEAKER_02]: He's this.
01:21:30.482 --> 01:21:30.862
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
01:21:32.083 --> 01:21:33.865
[SPEAKER_02]: Are the other assassinations to proceed?
01:21:34.525 --> 01:21:34.806
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:21:35.166 --> 01:21:36.047
[SPEAKER_02]: And what about Drake?
01:21:36.607 --> 01:21:37.808
[SPEAKER_02]: He will be dealt with.
01:21:38.689 --> 01:21:42.252
[SPEAKER_02]: Gentlemen, he turns his gentleman, your target is red robin.
01:21:42.812 --> 01:21:43.273
[SPEAKER_02]: Kill him.
01:21:44.260 --> 01:21:46.462
[SPEAKER_01]: They're definitely two women in that group, by the way.
01:21:46.582 --> 01:21:46.782
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:21:48.363 --> 01:21:50.685
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, there are female assassins in this group.
01:21:50.725 --> 01:22:04.075
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, again, very Star Trek, where like in Star Trek, they'll refer to a woman as Mr. Like Captain Kirk will call, he'll say, Mr. Savic is just a grown, Vulcan woman.
01:22:05.496 --> 01:22:06.037
[SPEAKER_00]: Fascinating.
01:22:06.717 --> 01:22:09.479
[SPEAKER_02]: So on a roof,
01:22:15.157 --> 01:22:16.317
[SPEAKER_02]: on a roof.
01:22:16.477 --> 01:22:18.758
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim is talking to prudence who has gotten her voice back.
01:22:18.858 --> 01:22:20.018
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember how she did that.
01:22:20.819 --> 01:22:23.560
[SPEAKER_02]: She just started talking and she got her larynx ripped out.
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:33.703
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then she only made like grunts and things and then at the end of the spiders are when she abandoned the league of assassins to like kick it with Tim.
01:22:34.483 --> 01:22:34.623
[SPEAKER_01]: She
01:22:36.623 --> 01:22:48.633
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I read it as it was implied that like she could talk, but she was so emotionally devastated from her partners dying, then she didn't.
01:22:49.173 --> 01:22:51.375
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, she got her lairings.
01:22:51.555 --> 01:22:52.456
[SPEAKER_01]: She got her throat slid.
01:22:55.722 --> 01:22:56.222
[SPEAKER_01]: She lived.
01:22:56.383 --> 01:22:57.063
[SPEAKER_01]: Her throat was caught.
01:22:57.123 --> 01:22:58.384
[SPEAKER_01]: Tip got stabbed.
01:22:58.664 --> 01:23:00.426
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the many times, Tim was stabbed in this book.
01:23:00.686 --> 01:23:05.490
[SPEAKER_01]: In the middle of the desert, he manages to like, bandage the wounds with his torn cape.
01:23:05.690 --> 01:23:06.771
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, made of leather.
01:23:06.791 --> 01:23:08.552
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be there.
01:23:09.112 --> 01:23:10.073
[SPEAKER_01]: Get into a homie.
01:23:11.254 --> 01:23:13.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Get the homie to a hotel.
01:23:14.036 --> 01:23:16.438
[SPEAKER_01]: And then climb up into the bed.
01:23:16.538 --> 01:23:17.499
[SPEAKER_01]: Throw her on the bed.
01:23:17.879 --> 01:23:19.140
[SPEAKER_01]: Think in his head.
01:23:19.340 --> 01:23:20.741
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to die.
01:23:21.182 --> 01:23:22.723
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'll get to see Connor.
01:23:24.274 --> 01:23:25.454
[SPEAKER_02]: Which could mean nothing.
01:23:25.974 --> 01:23:28.635
[SPEAKER_01]: Which could mean I told you I'd bring it up.
01:23:28.695 --> 01:23:30.255
[SPEAKER_02]: Which I would mean anything.
01:23:30.836 --> 01:23:41.398
[SPEAKER_01]: I took a photo of the page because I had the physical comics and so it wasn't pretty tragic a photo and I just hit the barcus and I was just like was he and Marcus immediately answered he thinks he was dead at the time and I was like, thank you.
01:23:41.778 --> 01:23:42.719
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I needed.
01:23:43.379 --> 01:23:45.159
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like a maybe Connor will come.
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:48.540
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying me it was like when I die I'm going to see Connor.
01:23:52.665 --> 01:23:53.546
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and so.
01:23:54.667 --> 01:23:55.548
[SPEAKER_01]: Proces.
01:23:55.708 --> 01:23:58.771
[SPEAKER_01]: She has a thick cockney accent and she's a bitch and she's bald.
01:23:59.031 --> 01:24:00.072
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for rules.
01:24:01.994 --> 01:24:02.414
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like.
01:24:02.434 --> 01:24:08.340
[SPEAKER_01]: She's bald, white lady with like cross earrings, big dangly cross earrings, but thick cockney accent and an attitude problem.
01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:11.161
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because she and Stephanie immediately get into it.
01:24:11.181 --> 01:24:13.263
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, you guys get the fuck outta here now.
01:24:13.283 --> 01:24:15.204
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, okay, who is this chick?
01:24:15.444 --> 01:24:18.646
[SPEAKER_02]: How does she know you and how does she know all this?
01:24:19.166 --> 01:24:23.749
[SPEAKER_02]: The combination of accents on this room has to sound insane because there's Stephanie Brown.
01:24:23.789 --> 01:24:25.310
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to talk about a Jersey girl.
01:24:26.611 --> 01:24:27.151
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
01:24:31.260 --> 01:24:34.163
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the combination of accents here has to sound nuts.
01:24:34.483 --> 01:24:43.031
[SPEAKER_02]: He's my name is Prudence and I know all this because I'm a killer for the League of Assassins and I was assigned to kill Stephanie Brown and she just pulls a gun.
01:24:44.672 --> 01:24:48.313
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is what she does prove is a very terrible assassin for the entire.
01:24:48.473 --> 01:24:50.333
[SPEAKER_02]: She is constantly in jealousy.
01:24:50.694 --> 01:24:59.016
[SPEAKER_01]: She was she was she was constantly just like pulling out like two SMGs and like opening fire on like anything that moved.
01:24:59.236 --> 01:24:59.436
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:24:59.496 --> 01:25:00.456
[SPEAKER_01]: That was her Emma.
01:25:02.776 --> 01:25:05.057
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Tim goes oh my god.
01:25:05.650 --> 01:25:08.611
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, uh, it's the old cliche coming to life.
01:25:09.052 --> 01:25:11.353
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything slows down, like time is freezing in front of me.
01:25:11.953 --> 01:25:14.334
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't throw fashion in prunes can squeeze or finger.
01:25:15.075 --> 01:25:15.955
[SPEAKER_02]: I just killed Stephanie.
01:25:16.455 --> 01:25:19.016
[SPEAKER_02]: This is my fault in every imaginable way.
01:25:20.257 --> 01:25:21.077
[SPEAKER_02]: I should have stopped her.
01:25:21.258 --> 01:25:24.979
[SPEAKER_02]: I tell myself, from day one, I knew I should have stopped her, but I didn't.
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:26.760
[SPEAKER_02]: I let the motion cloud my judgment.
01:25:27.020 --> 01:25:29.902
[SPEAKER_02]: And now she's gonna pay for her for my weakness with her life.
01:25:30.862 --> 01:25:34.464
[SPEAKER_02]: Prunes is a killer and the second I saw I should have took her down, but I didn't.
01:25:35.086 --> 01:25:38.708
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought after what we went through with the council spiders that maybe she had changed.
01:25:39.348 --> 01:25:41.349
[SPEAKER_02]: Working with the league, it turned everything upside down.
01:25:41.989 --> 01:25:43.730
[SPEAKER_02]: For a second, I thought of her like a partner.
01:25:44.270 --> 01:25:45.671
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, God, what if I don't?
01:25:46.211 --> 01:25:47.291
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Stephanie, then y'all.
01:25:49.732 --> 01:25:52.413
[SPEAKER_01]: Step y'all's gun and kick spurties in the face.
01:25:52.994 --> 01:26:00.257
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the look on her face with this gun is pointed directly at her nose is so unimpressed.
01:26:01.265 --> 01:26:02.946
[SPEAKER_01]: She does not give a shit.
01:26:03.126 --> 01:26:04.387
[SPEAKER_01]: She's just like, really?
01:26:04.787 --> 01:26:09.630
[SPEAKER_01]: And that she has gone and kicks prune the face, punches her a bunch of times, and finally kicks her in the nose.
01:26:09.770 --> 01:26:12.491
[SPEAKER_01]: A running joke is that prune is no sproking prune.
01:26:12.511 --> 01:26:14.012
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just nose like two or three times.
01:26:14.032 --> 01:26:15.653
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the third time her mind is broken.
01:26:16.334 --> 01:26:20.436
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in this call, this is issue ten, and she's had her nose broken three times in this book.
01:26:20.496 --> 01:26:21.757
[SPEAKER_01]: And this third time is by staff.
01:26:21.917 --> 01:26:27.380
[SPEAKER_01]: And she then takes the gun toss to sit at Tim and Tim looks so weak and surprised and she just goes, oh crap.
01:26:29.434 --> 01:26:32.056
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says Steph just looks like she had a gun.
01:26:33.638 --> 01:26:40.324
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's that's like or Tim's like Steph just took a part prudence a train member the league like she was nothing.
01:26:40.945 --> 01:26:41.865
[SPEAKER_02]: No, not Steph.
01:26:42.466 --> 01:26:42.926
[SPEAKER_02]: Pack girl.
01:26:44.068 --> 01:26:46.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that was not a high that's not a high bar.
01:26:46.630 --> 01:26:47.831
[SPEAKER_00]: It's prudence.
01:26:48.492 --> 01:26:55.278
[SPEAKER_02]: He says that was wow that was and then I feel it the way to the because the Tim catches the gun.
01:26:57.723 --> 01:27:00.345
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and he's like, hey, the gun wasn't loaded.
01:27:00.365 --> 01:27:03.267
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:27:03.487 --> 01:27:04.127
[SPEAKER_01]: And he holds it.
01:27:04.147 --> 01:27:05.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Who will pay him because he holds it?
01:27:06.029 --> 01:27:08.270
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the butt of it up and you can see there's literally no clip in it.
01:27:08.290 --> 01:27:08.550
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:27:09.711 --> 01:27:12.052
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, uh, Brugos came to help.
01:27:12.313 --> 01:27:13.453
[SPEAKER_02]: You literally just help me.
01:27:13.473 --> 01:27:14.634
[SPEAKER_02]: You put a gun in my face.
01:27:15.034 --> 01:27:16.115
[SPEAKER_02]: Not you him.
01:27:16.475 --> 01:27:19.938
[SPEAKER_02]: I came to help him just like he helped me when he led the legal assistant.
01:27:20.378 --> 01:27:22.119
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
01:27:26.313 --> 01:27:27.213
[SPEAKER_01]: I can explain that.
01:27:27.253 --> 01:27:34.477
[SPEAKER_01]: The number of times that Tim in this series needs to hold his hands up in front of Stephanie, like I can explain.
01:27:34.577 --> 01:27:36.658
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the running gag from SpongeBob.
01:27:37.738 --> 01:27:38.359
[SPEAKER_02]: I can explain.
01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:40.399
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my fault.
01:27:42.340 --> 01:27:45.802
[SPEAKER_01]: Next, we see Vicki Veil has shown up to Wayne Manor.
01:27:46.482 --> 01:27:52.225
[SPEAKER_01]: The only reason that Alfred lets her pass the gate is because she threatened to climb it if he did not let her in.
01:27:53.107 --> 01:27:59.450
[SPEAKER_01]: He answers the door and she's looking for Tim Drake and Alfred is like, no, he's not here.
01:28:00.050 --> 01:28:01.331
[SPEAKER_01]: He must be in school and she's like, nope.
01:28:01.451 --> 01:28:05.493
[SPEAKER_01]: I already checked and he's like, well, maybe he's doing, and she's like, no, no.
01:28:05.913 --> 01:28:06.553
[SPEAKER_01]: Cut the bullshit.
01:28:06.913 --> 01:28:07.293
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me in.
01:28:07.313 --> 01:28:08.334
[SPEAKER_01]: Or tell me where he is.
01:28:08.454 --> 01:28:12.796
[SPEAKER_02]: Alfred does also say, Master Timothy is hard to young free.
01:28:14.336 --> 01:28:14.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I was good.
01:28:15.137 --> 01:28:15.697
[SPEAKER_01]: That was good.
01:28:15.717 --> 01:28:18.438
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, I'm looking for Tim Drake and he's just like you.
01:28:20.979 --> 01:28:22.120
[SPEAKER_02]: Should I call the people?
01:28:23.749 --> 01:28:26.150
[SPEAKER_01]: Should I, should I report this?
01:28:27.991 --> 01:28:34.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the hysterical part is that I do not remember why the fuck she cares about her.
01:28:34.415 --> 01:28:35.915
[SPEAKER_02]: Because she's no something is up.
01:28:36.036 --> 01:28:40.518
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, hey, I'm not getting any straight answers from Bruce about anything.
01:28:41.248 --> 01:28:44.312
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when I asked him about him, he was just like, oh, whoa, what the fuck?
01:28:44.552 --> 01:28:45.333
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where he's at.
01:28:45.814 --> 01:28:48.737
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she's like, as a reporter, there's something going on here.
01:28:48.757 --> 01:28:52.622
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to figure it out because there's something weird is going on.
01:28:52.942 --> 01:28:55.486
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, this sign of a billionaire just disappeared.
01:28:55.606 --> 01:28:55.846
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:28:58.169 --> 01:29:02.191
[SPEAKER_02]: A billionaire who is suddenly dumping all of his money into these public works things.
01:29:03.252 --> 01:29:05.054
[SPEAKER_02]: His son is disappeared.
01:29:05.574 --> 01:29:08.636
[SPEAKER_02]: His friends don't know where his son is.
01:29:08.856 --> 01:29:10.758
[SPEAKER_02]: She talks to so Ann, which is crazy.
01:29:11.278 --> 01:29:12.239
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she's so funny.
01:29:12.259 --> 01:29:14.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're both there.
01:29:15.301 --> 01:29:15.941
[SPEAKER_01]: Which, you know what?
01:29:15.982 --> 01:29:18.944
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that I think about it, it does kind of look like Bruce Wayne is like being blackmailed.
01:29:19.184 --> 01:29:23.227
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it looks like something weird happened, like Tim has been kidnapped and just being held for ransom us.
01:29:23.247 --> 01:29:23.427
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:29:25.255 --> 01:29:27.115
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, you know, that makes sense.
01:29:27.175 --> 01:29:33.137
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, they don't explicitly, because it's just, it's like a back-to-back plot beat in this book.
01:29:33.177 --> 01:29:34.877
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the one thing I do find a little repetitive.
01:29:34.937 --> 01:29:37.518
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, Tam goes out of her way to look for Tim.
01:29:37.618 --> 01:29:39.559
[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, Vicki Vale is doing it.
01:29:39.579 --> 01:29:40.499
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, we just did this.
01:29:41.499 --> 01:29:44.480
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's just different because it's for different reasons.
01:29:44.660 --> 01:29:49.421
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, Vicki is looking for Tim as a reporter with no personal interest.
01:29:49.441 --> 01:29:50.761
[SPEAKER_02]: She's just trying to figure out what's going on.
01:29:51.562 --> 01:29:52.662
[SPEAKER_02]: Tam is looking for him.
01:29:53.222 --> 01:29:55.384
[SPEAKER_02]: as an agent of the family, essentially.
01:29:55.604 --> 01:29:55.824
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:29:56.945 --> 01:30:02.069
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's, it's just, it's a repetitive beat in this book is like, where the fuck is Tim Drake?
01:30:02.709 --> 01:30:03.010
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:30:03.590 --> 01:30:04.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's asking.
01:30:04.451 --> 01:30:05.111
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants to know.
01:30:05.492 --> 01:30:09.414
[SPEAKER_02]: Whenever Tim isn't on screen, we should be asking, where's Tim?
01:30:11.956 --> 01:30:17.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so then we got to uh, the like Wayne corporate offices in downtown Gotham.
01:30:20.493 --> 01:30:30.843
[SPEAKER_02]: And race is standing there with a bunch of ninjas these ninjas are one of these ninjas is so fucking tall Yeah, these they're just they're ninja.
01:30:31.504 --> 01:30:32.725
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to explain them any further.
01:30:32.865 --> 01:30:41.894
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're very they're very Linquay and I think is this katana that's that's laid out down here
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:45.700
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I'm guessing she's on the outsiders.
01:30:45.740 --> 01:30:45.960
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.381
[SPEAKER_01]: He literally says the outsider put a quite a fight.
01:30:48.401 --> 01:30:49.941
[SPEAKER_01]: I was impressed.
01:30:50.001 --> 01:30:51.342
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm guessing she's one of the outsider.
01:30:51.362 --> 01:30:52.082
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be Katana.
01:30:52.202 --> 01:30:52.642
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:30:52.662 --> 01:30:54.383
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the outsiders.
01:30:54.403 --> 01:30:56.123
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't leave her that book very, very briefly.
01:30:58.444 --> 01:31:00.845
[SPEAKER_02]: But Rach says to quote unquote Bruce.
01:31:00.865 --> 01:31:03.146
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, but I need to speak with you privately.
01:31:03.786 --> 01:31:04.766
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Elliott.
01:31:05.827 --> 01:31:07.367
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing.
01:31:07.427 --> 01:31:09.708
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy should remind him that's doctor to you.
01:31:11.790 --> 01:31:13.291
[SPEAKER_02]: that, please put some respect on that.
01:31:14.212 --> 01:31:15.854
[SPEAKER_02]: I went to medical school.
01:31:15.914 --> 01:31:17.295
[SPEAKER_02]: I died eight years of school, brother.
01:31:17.315 --> 01:31:17.995
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you.
01:31:18.296 --> 01:31:19.116
[SPEAKER_01]: That's residency.
01:31:19.817 --> 01:31:20.097
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
01:31:20.277 --> 01:31:21.318
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a brain surgeon.
01:31:21.338 --> 01:31:27.083
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Stephanie goes, hey, have you lost your fucking mind?
01:31:28.406 --> 01:31:29.287
[SPEAKER_01]: Incredible panel.
01:31:29.327 --> 01:31:31.588
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like have lost your hands on her hips.
01:31:31.628 --> 01:31:32.929
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you lost your mind?
01:31:33.610 --> 01:31:38.553
[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, all the crap you gave me about not being ready to wear a costume, about not being able to trust me.
01:31:38.813 --> 01:31:43.217
[SPEAKER_02]: At least when I was going behind your back, you know, I was working for Batman, but this is a stuff.
01:31:44.057 --> 01:31:45.798
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you've lost it, Steph.
01:31:46.318 --> 01:31:54.443
[SPEAKER_02]: All you're all dark and brooding, and won't even mention kicking me in the stomach, which really hurt, but you take off for weeks without anyone knowing where you are, who are you?
01:31:54.803 --> 01:31:56.303
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was worried about you.
01:31:56.644 --> 01:32:00.185
[SPEAKER_02]: We all were, and now this, for real, you're working with the League of Assassins.
01:32:00.266 --> 01:32:01.226
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who are you?
01:32:01.266 --> 01:32:04.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I sure don't know, and brood goes to, she ever shot up.
01:32:05.068 --> 01:32:08.210
[SPEAKER_01]: She just goes, you're right.
01:32:08.510 --> 01:32:09.750
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I got another thing.
01:32:09.871 --> 01:32:10.251
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what?
01:32:10.571 --> 01:32:11.992
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
01:32:13.258 --> 01:32:14.679
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right about everything.
01:32:14.719 --> 01:32:15.439
[SPEAKER_02]: I lost my way.
01:32:15.539 --> 01:32:17.480
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in a bad place and I made bad decisions.
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:18.560
[SPEAKER_02]: People got hurt.
01:32:19.160 --> 01:32:19.921
[SPEAKER_02]: People got killed.
01:32:20.261 --> 01:32:20.841
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's on me.
01:32:21.461 --> 01:32:22.142
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm better now.
01:32:22.342 --> 01:32:23.142
[SPEAKER_02]: I know who I am.
01:32:23.162 --> 01:32:24.102
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to set things right.
01:32:24.803 --> 01:32:25.963
[SPEAKER_02]: I treated you horribly.
01:32:26.423 --> 01:32:26.763
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
01:32:27.544 --> 01:32:28.284
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sorry.
01:32:28.424 --> 01:32:29.384
[SPEAKER_02]: We both made mistakes.
01:32:29.464 --> 01:32:31.605
[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe we can both have a second chance.
01:32:31.845 --> 01:32:33.426
[SPEAKER_02]: But not right now.
01:32:33.946 --> 01:32:35.707
[SPEAKER_02]: People we love are in danger.
01:32:36.407 --> 01:32:37.908
[SPEAKER_02]: And I need your help to save them.
01:32:39.276 --> 01:32:57.304
[SPEAKER_02]: Will you help me and she's like, uh, yeah, but now I really don't know who you are because Tim and Throughout the relationship the amount of times Tim has told Stephanie that she is right is I could probably count on one hand Yeah, it's so he doesn't
01:32:58.320 --> 01:33:00.984
[SPEAKER_01]: Apologize to Steph really ever at all.
01:33:01.024 --> 01:33:01.525
[SPEAKER_01]: No, yes.
01:33:01.565 --> 01:33:04.730
[SPEAKER_01]: He's always telling her she's he's always telling her she's wrong.
01:33:05.011 --> 01:33:10.639
[SPEAKER_01]: He's always telling her that like she's not being responsible enough or not trustworthy like it's only one of the things that I've
01:33:11.707 --> 01:33:38.369
[SPEAKER_01]: always found interesting about the relationship in a good way and like a very character defining ways that like Tim fox up a lot and he's pretty neat to staff like all the time and Tim is kind of a good person yeah and if he's kind of a good person even when they're in a good place even when they're like in a good relationship he's really patronizing to her and this is the first time that he's just like you're right I shouldn't have done that I fucked up I'm sorry I'm not doing well I'm sorry
01:33:40.333 --> 01:33:41.533
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm trying to be better.
01:33:41.994 --> 01:33:45.255
[SPEAKER_01]: Will you help me be better now and save some lives?
01:33:45.295 --> 01:33:48.155
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, oh, fascinating.
01:33:48.215 --> 01:33:55.838
[SPEAKER_02]: My favorite case of mean Tim is in Robin issue one when Carl gets a car jacked by the speed boys.
01:33:57.778 --> 01:34:02.080
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tim saves him, like in all this, like he dives and helps him not get shot.
01:34:03.120 --> 01:34:09.982
[SPEAKER_02]: And Carl says, Drake, you idiot, they took my car and Tim looks at him and says, wow, Carl.
01:34:10.820 --> 01:34:12.841
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I should have let him blow your brains out.
01:34:13.001 --> 01:34:14.101
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you would have noticed.
01:34:17.363 --> 01:34:19.064
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a, I don't think you would have noticed.
01:34:20.084 --> 01:34:22.305
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is crazy foreshadow week.
01:34:25.246 --> 01:34:25.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
01:34:26.907 --> 01:34:29.688
[SPEAKER_01]: No, Tim Drake can be kind of a dick edge.
01:34:30.008 --> 01:34:31.849
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, it can be kind of a dickhead when he wants to be.
01:34:32.049 --> 01:34:38.432
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I actually also, one of the other reasons that I'm gonna start mentioning this now because it's important to the vibe of this arc.
01:34:39.396 --> 01:34:43.537
[SPEAKER_01]: A huge part of this book is basically just like even when
01:34:44.333 --> 01:34:46.873
[SPEAKER_01]: his remaining friends and family try to reach out.
01:34:47.193 --> 01:34:51.034
[SPEAKER_01]: He is shutting them down immediately and rudely.
01:34:51.314 --> 01:34:53.215
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he can't step into stomach.
01:34:53.455 --> 01:34:57.255
[SPEAKER_02]: And told her he's like, when I see you again, you shouldn't be what you better not be wearing that costume.
01:34:57.595 --> 01:34:58.695
[SPEAKER_02]: It just leaves it.
01:34:59.336 --> 01:35:02.356
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and referring to the spoiler costume, which is why she doesn't just be a girl.
01:35:02.496 --> 01:35:02.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:35:02.756 --> 01:35:09.817
[SPEAKER_02]: He has been ignoring Ives and so and like he just he's just kind of being like he's a character.
01:35:09.937 --> 01:35:10.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
01:35:10.897 --> 01:35:13.698
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a character kind of defined by being like a moody asshole.
01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:18.541
[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing his best.
01:35:18.841 --> 01:35:20.762
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just like a moody asshole sometimes.
01:35:21.842 --> 01:35:23.383
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't mean to be, he just is.
01:35:24.383 --> 01:35:25.604
[SPEAKER_02]: It's another way he's like Bruce.
01:35:26.844 --> 01:35:27.044
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:35:28.405 --> 01:35:30.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he's the most like Bruce.
01:35:30.105 --> 01:35:34.627
[SPEAKER_01]: The other one's very much or not, but he knows, and he knows he hates it.
01:35:34.767 --> 01:35:35.387
[SPEAKER_01]: He hates it.
01:35:35.547 --> 01:35:37.168
[SPEAKER_01]: He hates it.
01:35:37.448 --> 01:35:42.930
[SPEAKER_01]: The entire personal arc of Tim's arc in a
01:35:44.102 --> 01:35:54.266
[SPEAKER_01]: the rebirth detective comics, the tinian, or tinian, I don't know how to pronounce his name, tinian, James, tinian, the fourth, the fourth, that guy of J.T.
01:35:54.406 --> 01:35:58.048
[SPEAKER_01]: Four rules, by the way, that book rules, it's really good.
01:35:59.408 --> 01:36:02.510
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are a lot of issues of it, because they would publish you twice a month for a while, it was crazy.
01:36:03.390 --> 01:36:10.253
[SPEAKER_01]: But his entire arc in that book is like, I cannot be that man, I cannot become that man, but you not want to become that man.
01:36:10.686 --> 01:36:15.531
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Bruce and I don't want to be like Bruce and I can do everything I can not be like Bruce and that things happen.
01:36:16.072 --> 01:36:16.953
[SPEAKER_02]: He quits at the end of that.
01:36:17.073 --> 01:36:19.575
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it looks like he's quitting at the end of that art too.
01:36:19.615 --> 01:36:23.299
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like he's quitting and then he being your quotes dies.
01:36:24.080 --> 01:36:27.043
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he comes back and him and stuff get in a car and leave.
01:36:28.931 --> 01:36:35.819
[SPEAKER_02]: And they leave directly into the relaunch yang just in which he immediately puts costume back.
01:36:35.839 --> 01:36:43.387
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they think about it for a while in the relaunch yang justice book he's just like I said I wasn't going to do this and they're like okay, but like
01:36:44.473 --> 01:36:45.693
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to go do it.
01:36:45.913 --> 01:36:47.154
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget what they got.
01:36:47.594 --> 01:36:48.894
[SPEAKER_01]: He ends the world.
01:36:48.914 --> 01:36:53.155
[SPEAKER_01]: It gets re divided with Connor because Connor managed to skip the new fifty.
01:36:53.475 --> 01:37:04.397
[SPEAKER_01]: They explained that Connor doesn't get right on the way in the new fifty two because he gets teleported to Jim world right before the new fifty two starts and they don't rescue him from Jim world until after the new fifty two ends.
01:37:04.557 --> 01:37:06.358
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he just was on Jim world.
01:37:06.398 --> 01:37:06.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:37:08.156 --> 01:37:27.859
[SPEAKER_01]: His general the whole time he had fake wife and fake baby the baby was real but it wasn't his he had the stubble he wasn't really buried in that woman and And yeah, he had stubble and he was really hot and all of his friends I see someone is like how are you growing a beard How is that's not what how is that possible?
01:37:28.622 --> 01:37:32.487
[SPEAKER_01]: They see him on a farm and his, like, air quotes wife and child.
01:37:32.567 --> 01:37:37.294
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because the lady's actual husband died and like the society was being a big, fairly mean to her.
01:37:37.314 --> 01:37:41.179
[SPEAKER_02]: So Connor, Mary's her so that she does, she can like, keep her shit.
01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:41.640
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
01:37:42.247 --> 01:37:45.429
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he has a place to lay up and he works on her phone.
01:37:45.469 --> 01:37:49.973
[SPEAKER_01]: But everyone walks up and everyone's like, because she doesn't know that these people know him.
01:37:50.033 --> 01:37:52.795
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, yeah, that's my friend and they're like, excuse me.
01:37:52.815 --> 01:37:53.215
[SPEAKER_02]: You, I bet.
01:37:53.315 --> 01:37:55.176
[SPEAKER_01]: All of his friends, because there's a baby.
01:37:55.537 --> 01:37:58.939
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, do you have something you would like to tell us?
01:37:59.179 --> 01:37:59.900
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what do you mean?
01:38:00.060 --> 01:38:01.741
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, that's not my kids.
01:38:02.322 --> 01:38:03.362
[SPEAKER_01]: Not my child.
01:38:04.543 --> 01:38:06.084
[SPEAKER_02]: Not guilty, not even a suspect.
01:38:08.346 --> 01:38:09.407
[SPEAKER_01]: What a crazy way.
01:38:11.071 --> 01:38:12.092
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what a great line.
01:38:12.172 --> 01:38:12.873
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that one.
01:38:12.913 --> 01:38:13.694
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
01:38:15.015 --> 01:38:16.816
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, hey, my Barbara, my friend is pregnant.
01:38:16.836 --> 01:38:19.439
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes to the malls classes.
01:38:23.354 --> 01:38:29.556
[SPEAKER_02]: That issue's like that particular one where she tells him that she's pregnant is so funny because Tim is sitting on the edge of the bed.
01:38:30.076 --> 01:38:32.677
[SPEAKER_02]: Hands folded, head dropped and she's like Tim.
01:38:33.357 --> 01:38:36.598
[SPEAKER_02]: We've made out a few times, but that does not obey.
01:38:36.739 --> 01:38:39.700
[SPEAKER_02]: If you make out sessions, it's not a baby make.
01:38:42.120 --> 01:38:42.741
[SPEAKER_01]: I love her.
01:38:44.401 --> 01:38:45.642
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm speaking of.
01:38:45.902 --> 01:38:47.002
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:38:47.262 --> 01:38:49.703
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim is at the warehouse.
01:38:50.694 --> 01:38:53.615
[SPEAKER_02]: Calling out is like hello, Tim, are you in there?
01:38:55.636 --> 01:38:58.897
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the ninjas is watching and he's like, uh, there's a girl.
01:38:59.037 --> 01:38:59.818
[SPEAKER_02]: Should I kill her?
01:39:00.358 --> 01:39:02.559
[SPEAKER_02]: African-American late teens early twenties?
01:39:02.939 --> 01:39:04.219
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I wouldn't call her a threat.
01:39:04.419 --> 01:39:07.540
[SPEAKER_02]: She's got this bomb ass trench coat on because it's awesome.
01:39:08.081 --> 01:39:09.481
[SPEAKER_02]: It is autumn in Gotham.
01:39:09.661 --> 01:39:10.261
[SPEAKER_02]: It is cold.
01:39:11.142 --> 01:39:11.302
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:39:13.263 --> 01:39:16.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and her taxi, though she gets in the taxi and waves.
01:39:18.403 --> 01:39:20.364
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the assassins goes commencing.
01:39:21.425 --> 01:39:24.526
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Hush is being held at sword point.
01:39:27.067 --> 01:39:29.489
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just like a ninja sword right up to his throat.
01:39:30.029 --> 01:39:32.390
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, I'm open to negotiation.
01:39:33.050 --> 01:39:35.251
[SPEAKER_02]: That assumes you have something to bargain with.
01:39:35.652 --> 01:39:36.172
[SPEAKER_02]: You do not.
01:39:36.912 --> 01:39:38.793
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm well aware of who you are, Mr. Elliot.
01:39:39.133 --> 01:39:40.454
[SPEAKER_02]: And you do not amuse me.
01:39:40.994 --> 01:39:42.455
[SPEAKER_02]: But you can be useful to me.
01:39:43.175 --> 01:39:46.897
[SPEAKER_02]: I need you to do one very simple thing for me or you die.
01:39:48.783 --> 01:39:51.246
[SPEAKER_02]: and Tommy thinks he goes, how can I help?
01:39:52.086 --> 01:39:53.587
[SPEAKER_02]: As I said, it's very simple.
01:39:54.488 --> 01:39:58.091
[SPEAKER_02]: All I want is everything Bruce Wayne has.
01:40:01.134 --> 01:40:02.095
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good way.
01:40:02.155 --> 01:40:03.095
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good way.
01:40:03.135 --> 01:40:03.916
[SPEAKER_01]: Like to be honest.
01:40:04.056 --> 01:40:05.517
[SPEAKER_02]: All told, really good idea.
01:40:05.638 --> 01:40:08.980
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a good idea that Vandal Savage will later do his own.
01:40:09.541 --> 01:40:10.382
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you read?
01:40:10.442 --> 01:40:11.603
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you said you've been out for a while.
01:40:11.623 --> 01:40:15.686
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know that Vandal Savage became Gotham's police commissioner?
01:40:17.668 --> 01:40:20.495
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, but wait man.
01:40:20.776 --> 01:40:25.467
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I, as Marcus said, I've been out of the game for
01:40:26.110 --> 01:40:30.133
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a year and a half at this point, I haven't bought really any comics in that time.
01:40:30.493 --> 01:40:36.298
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm very much on what happened was that Krakow ended and I, all my momentum fell off a cliff.
01:40:36.358 --> 01:40:40.041
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, all right, time for some new hobbies for a little while.
01:40:40.441 --> 01:40:41.482
[SPEAKER_01]: This happened to me all the time.
01:40:41.522 --> 01:40:51.230
[SPEAKER_01]: I go through phases of like four-ish years where I'm like religiously reading a lot of comics and then I'll replace it with like a slightly slower period than I'll ramp back up and catch up on what I missed.
01:40:51.330 --> 01:40:53.291
[SPEAKER_01]: But so you know, I don't know what's going on.
01:40:53.311 --> 01:40:53.852
[SPEAKER_01]: I got them right now.
01:40:53.892 --> 01:40:55.033
[SPEAKER_01]: But that is hysterical.
01:40:56.917 --> 01:40:57.597
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:41:01.739 --> 01:41:07.801
[SPEAKER_02]: So Tim is gone to a Wayne enterprise gone back to the warehouse after Tam has left.
01:41:09.962 --> 01:41:13.023
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephanie is on a normal motorcycle here instead of a ricochet and I think that's weird.
01:41:13.883 --> 01:41:17.585
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no way she has that.
01:41:18.025 --> 01:41:22.686
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where she got that because she's in the ricochet later.
01:41:22.726 --> 01:41:24.007
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, oh wait, what the fuck?
01:41:24.842 --> 01:41:26.483
[SPEAKER_01]: because the ricochet has to show up to them.
01:41:26.663 --> 01:41:27.404
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, call it.
01:41:27.944 --> 01:41:30.666
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, why isn't she just in the Jeep with proof?
01:41:30.826 --> 01:41:35.069
[SPEAKER_01]: There's Jeep and proof is I'm assuming, but the answer is probably that they would kill each other.
01:41:35.996 --> 01:41:41.119
[SPEAKER_01]: This year, this year to Jeep without Tim in it to mediate, I think someone would die.
01:41:41.559 --> 01:41:45.161
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Tim tells us, he's like, we have to assume their simultaneous hits.
01:41:46.421 --> 01:41:47.262
[SPEAKER_02]: Call the Rikashay back.
01:41:47.322 --> 01:41:47.982
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to meet it.
01:41:48.142 --> 01:41:50.803
[SPEAKER_02]: Call Oracle and arrange and Tim just keeps saying arrange.
01:41:51.824 --> 01:41:55.686
[SPEAKER_02]: And he thinks for a second.
01:41:56.486 --> 01:42:03.870
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he just responds with question marks in the speech bubble and staff looks.
01:42:04.530 --> 01:42:06.431
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Tim, are you still with us?
01:42:07.132 --> 01:42:07.452
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, hush.
01:42:07.472 --> 01:42:08.273
[SPEAKER_02]: And she is, that's just rude.
01:42:08.293 --> 01:42:09.573
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, I have to find Lucius.
01:42:09.594 --> 01:42:10.914
[SPEAKER_02]: He, the hysterical part is that he doesn't even explain this.
01:42:10.934 --> 01:42:11.435
[SPEAKER_02]: He does not explain this.
01:42:11.455 --> 01:42:11.875
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:11.895 --> 01:42:13.696
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:13.716 --> 01:42:14.156
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:14.176 --> 01:42:14.597
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:14.617 --> 01:42:15.097
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:15.117 --> 01:42:15.537
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:15.557 --> 01:42:16.038
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:16.058 --> 01:42:16.578
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:16.618 --> 01:42:17.078
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:17.098 --> 01:42:17.559
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:17.599 --> 01:42:18.439
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:18.459 --> 01:42:20.060
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:20.080 --> 01:42:20.661
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:20.681 --> 01:42:21.141
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:21.161 --> 01:42:21.621
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:21.641 --> 01:42:22.121
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:22.141 --> 01:42:22.582
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:22.602 --> 01:42:23.082
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:23.382 --> 01:42:23.823
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:23.843 --> 01:42:24.383
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:24.403 --> 01:42:25.444
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:25.464 --> 01:42:26.444
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:26.464 --> 01:42:27.005
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:27.025 --> 01:42:28.445
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:28.465 --> 01:42:29.026
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:29.046 --> 01:42:29.926
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:29.966 --> 01:42:30.387
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't explain it.
01:42:30.407 --> 01:42:30.827
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't explain it
01:42:32.085 --> 01:42:33.186
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:42:33.626 --> 01:42:34.106
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:42:34.146 --> 01:42:40.390
[SPEAKER_01]: They noticed that his stuff has been tampered with and then the entire place, it's a good explosion.
01:42:40.410 --> 01:42:41.311
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great explosion.
01:42:41.391 --> 01:42:41.631
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:42:41.811 --> 01:42:42.952
[SPEAKER_02]: I would just assume it.
01:42:43.432 --> 01:42:45.033
[SPEAKER_02]: If I was the assassin, we're like, oh, got him.
01:42:45.633 --> 01:42:46.254
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:42:46.534 --> 01:42:46.834
[SPEAKER_02]: God.
01:42:46.974 --> 01:42:47.474
[SPEAKER_02]: Done and thus.
01:42:47.494 --> 01:42:48.295
[SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't so hard.
01:42:49.416 --> 01:42:52.037
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tim had booby trapped his safe house.
01:42:53.578 --> 01:43:01.123
[SPEAKER_01]: So the second explosion goes off just before and a perfectly circular hole gets cut in the floor and they all fall down and do it and they all collapse into a heap of the
01:43:01.727 --> 01:43:03.347
[SPEAKER_01]: bottom of like some big basement.
01:43:03.627 --> 01:43:03.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:43:04.388 --> 01:43:08.329
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and so stuff like what?
01:43:08.669 --> 01:43:09.049
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
01:43:09.069 --> 01:43:09.629
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm deaf.
01:43:09.649 --> 01:43:10.189
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just great.
01:43:11.089 --> 01:43:13.090
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, in terms like I'm not sure sure.
01:43:13.190 --> 01:43:13.890
[SPEAKER_02]: I save those.
01:43:15.030 --> 01:43:21.412
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, well, these people are the important.
01:43:21.452 --> 01:43:22.032
[SPEAKER_01]: Have they showed up before?
01:43:22.052 --> 01:43:22.572
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:22.592 --> 01:43:23.172
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:23.192 --> 01:43:23.692
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:23.712 --> 01:43:24.252
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:24.292 --> 01:43:24.852
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:24.872 --> 01:43:25.653
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:25.673 --> 01:43:26.233
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:26.273 --> 01:43:26.773
[SPEAKER_01]: They have shown up before.
01:43:27.250 --> 01:43:28.711
[SPEAKER_02]: They're the seven men of death.
01:43:29.731 --> 01:43:32.033
[SPEAKER_02]: Their first appearance was a couple years before this.
01:43:33.213 --> 01:43:33.814
[SPEAKER_02]: They were confused.
01:43:33.834 --> 01:43:35.895
[SPEAKER_02]: These, these sort of for Talia, basically.
01:43:37.115 --> 01:43:40.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because the front girl looks like Talia, but she's not.
01:43:41.017 --> 01:43:43.279
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they're League of Assassins, guys.
01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:46.000
[SPEAKER_02]: They, they're not important.
01:43:46.961 --> 01:43:51.363
[SPEAKER_01]: No, and is this, I gotta say, as assassins go, I think these are
01:43:52.872 --> 01:43:54.253
[SPEAKER_01]: some boring character designs.
01:43:54.373 --> 01:43:58.376
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Marcus Toe could do way better and I know that can because he did with the spiders.
01:43:58.656 --> 01:43:59.857
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he didn't design guys.
01:44:01.038 --> 01:44:01.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
01:44:01.558 --> 01:44:01.938
[SPEAKER_01]: It's my point.
01:44:01.978 --> 01:44:03.539
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's obviously, he drew that.
01:44:03.559 --> 01:44:04.900
[SPEAKER_01]: But he didn't design these guys.
01:44:05.821 --> 01:44:10.945
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just the reason I say they're weird is truly just because they're so boring.
01:44:11.545 --> 01:44:13.847
[SPEAKER_01]: None of them have like consistent enough themes.
01:44:14.087 --> 01:44:21.572
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just either like three clothes and combinations of like makeup and masks that kind of doesn't really make any sense or it's just very generic like
01:44:23.065 --> 01:44:26.988
[SPEAKER_01]: Rambo, Esk, Tony, Danny, these guys.
01:44:29.631 --> 01:44:32.633
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy who has giant cars kind of like Lady Death Strike.
01:44:33.214 --> 01:44:36.356
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do like this guy in the front.
01:44:37.137 --> 01:44:40.640
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a guy in the front with a hook for a hand and a gun in a holster.
01:44:41.301 --> 01:44:44.163
[SPEAKER_02]: Sun glasses at night like a real Freakazoid.
01:44:44.564 --> 01:44:48.067
[SPEAKER_02]: The Lady Death Strike guy looks like Claudio Sanchez from Coiden, Cambria.
01:44:50.678 --> 01:44:55.521
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, there's a dude who's wearing a jacket that kind of makes him look like Bash the stampede and a domino mask.
01:44:55.561 --> 01:44:57.942
[SPEAKER_02]: He looks like a rejected Tim design.
01:44:59.363 --> 01:44:59.923
[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit.
01:45:00.544 --> 01:45:02.125
[SPEAKER_01]: But that code is Bash the stampede.
01:45:02.145 --> 01:45:02.845
[SPEAKER_02]: The white boots.
01:45:02.965 --> 01:45:04.766
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's very very very stampede.
01:45:04.786 --> 01:45:05.567
[SPEAKER_02]: The white boots are cool.
01:45:06.107 --> 01:45:07.047
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't hold you.
01:45:07.168 --> 01:45:07.928
[SPEAKER_02]: The white boots.
01:45:08.688 --> 01:45:09.329
[SPEAKER_01]: The white boots are cool.
01:45:10.009 --> 01:45:11.290
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, there's a dude in the referee shirt.
01:45:11.310 --> 01:45:12.311
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a sign out of all.
01:45:12.931 --> 01:45:14.552
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a clown in a referee shirt.
01:45:15.692 --> 01:45:15.933
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:45:16.213 --> 01:45:16.333
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
01:45:17.844 --> 01:45:20.425
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's there's a guy with a skull.
01:45:20.685 --> 01:45:22.586
[SPEAKER_02]: There's palis whoop Jason on the list.
01:45:23.987 --> 01:45:24.187
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
01:45:24.947 --> 01:45:26.248
[SPEAKER_01]: This is these people are not.
01:45:26.808 --> 01:45:30.830
[SPEAKER_01]: The lady in the front is just wearing like a spandex suit.
01:45:32.871 --> 01:45:35.232
[SPEAKER_02]: She looks like Talia and Viper mixed into one person.
01:45:36.032 --> 01:45:36.612
[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a whip.
01:45:37.353 --> 01:45:39.054
[SPEAKER_01]: Very long Indian Jones bowl whip.
01:45:40.774 --> 01:45:43.816
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Tam has a rise.
01:45:44.056 --> 01:45:45.696
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tam has arrived at Wayne Manor.
01:45:47.863 --> 01:45:50.224
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, hello, Tim, is anyone here?
01:45:50.244 --> 01:45:52.144
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I thought there's just about a butler.
01:45:52.964 --> 01:45:54.945
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, Vicki Vail goes, oh, they do.
01:45:54.985 --> 01:45:55.865
[SPEAKER_02]: He just left for the city.
01:45:55.945 --> 01:45:57.866
[SPEAKER_02]: She says, hi, I'm, I'm Ms.
01:45:57.906 --> 01:45:58.166
[SPEAKER_02]: Fox.
01:45:58.386 --> 01:46:00.306
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Vicki Vail, a reporter for the Gotham Gazette.
01:46:00.706 --> 01:46:05.108
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I was wondering if you wouldn't find mine answering a few questions about Tim Drake.
01:46:05.748 --> 01:46:10.209
[SPEAKER_02]: And this issue ends with them in a sniper's sights.
01:46:11.229 --> 01:46:14.450
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a, uh, Tam goes, um, what do you want to know?
01:46:16.303 --> 01:46:22.265
[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't know which of the two they're targeting yet because we know that they're going to be simultaneous hits, but we don't know anything else.
01:46:23.305 --> 01:46:27.407
[SPEAKER_02]: And on to issue eleven, which has Batman, Robin, and Red Robin on the cover.
01:46:27.607 --> 01:46:39.751
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to notice, I do want to note like one thing that I love about the Red Robin logo is that it's still the same font that Robin, the Robin logo was in.
01:46:39.811 --> 01:46:42.252
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it still Tim's stylized arm.
01:46:42.292 --> 01:46:42.632
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:46:43.532 --> 01:46:46.493
[SPEAKER_02]: And the O now is the red Robin emblem.
01:46:48.154 --> 01:46:58.418
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the point where they start to like Tim and Damian have different ours and I love that and then when like they started retroactively all the robins have their own are.
01:47:00.821 --> 01:47:01.261
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
01:47:01.341 --> 01:47:02.161
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that a lot.
01:47:02.181 --> 01:47:07.564
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a really good handy way to differentiate all of them except for Dick and Jason who wear the same costume.
01:47:08.284 --> 01:47:15.388
[SPEAKER_02]: But like Tim's R is different than Dick's R, which is different than Damien's.
01:47:15.628 --> 01:47:16.068
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
01:47:17.169 --> 01:47:18.149
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:47:18.349 --> 01:47:20.610
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really do.
01:47:20.630 --> 01:47:23.272
[SPEAKER_01]: And doesn't the red Robin motor kind of look like the Phoenix?
01:47:23.863 --> 01:47:24.223
[SPEAKER_02]: It does.
01:47:24.523 --> 01:47:25.284
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking that earlier.
01:47:25.624 --> 01:47:27.845
[SPEAKER_02]: It does look like the Phoenix Raptor.
01:47:29.926 --> 01:47:30.787
[SPEAKER_02]: Back to the bad cave.
01:47:31.127 --> 01:47:34.289
[SPEAKER_02]: Dick or Barbara calls Dick and is like, hey, something's going down.
01:47:34.549 --> 01:47:35.249
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim's in Gotham.
01:47:35.289 --> 01:47:37.791
[SPEAKER_02]: He and the Stephanie are in the middle of something and he goes, hey, what the hell?
01:47:38.491 --> 01:47:41.193
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone hacked into the system here and then tried to cover it up.
01:47:42.033 --> 01:47:43.814
[SPEAKER_02]: No, a few days ago, wow, they're good.
01:47:45.475 --> 01:47:47.776
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me, oh God, it's Tim.
01:47:48.557 --> 01:47:52.139
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to reset all the user permissions when I said I'm sharp here, but why would he?
01:47:53.172 --> 01:47:56.893
[SPEAKER_02]: and then the ricochet takes off on its own, and she's like, hey, what the fuck?
01:47:57.753 --> 01:47:58.314
[SPEAKER_02]: What's happening?
01:47:58.394 --> 01:47:59.674
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the power goes out.
01:47:59.694 --> 01:48:02.035
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, uh-oh.
01:48:02.695 --> 01:48:02.955
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:48:03.375 --> 01:48:08.097
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so two assassins are going into the cave to deal with Barbara.
01:48:08.617 --> 01:48:09.657
[SPEAKER_02]: They should have sent more.
01:48:11.818 --> 01:48:12.898
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, they should have sent.
01:48:13.579 --> 01:48:15.819
[SPEAKER_02]: I should have sent at least four more.
01:48:16.840 --> 01:48:17.640
[SPEAKER_01]: Barbara Gordon.
01:48:19.516 --> 01:48:20.736
[SPEAKER_01]: I love her as Oracle.
01:48:21.317 --> 01:48:21.817
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't much.
01:48:22.117 --> 01:48:26.659
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so against when they put her back.
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:39.103
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, actually, here's my big unified theory about when they did the new fifty two when they put Barbara Gordon like in the cooler outfit is that they just it was Stephanie Brown.
01:48:40.095 --> 01:48:41.115
[SPEAKER_01]: but they gave her red hair.
01:48:41.636 --> 01:48:42.436
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what it was.
01:48:42.936 --> 01:48:43.176
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:48:43.236 --> 01:48:45.977
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, back on the porn side is very stuff.
01:48:46.217 --> 01:48:50.459
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, yeah, it's, it's got the, they should, she stole her signature color.
01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:52.460
[SPEAKER_01]: She stole the kind of whole vibe of it.
01:48:52.560 --> 01:48:54.461
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, the, and not for nothing.
01:48:54.521 --> 01:48:55.201
[SPEAKER_01]: Not for nothing.
01:48:55.821 --> 01:48:56.401
[SPEAKER_02]: Not for nothing.
01:48:56.441 --> 01:49:00.003
[SPEAKER_02]: Babstaur did put her whole fucking foot into that design.
01:49:00.662 --> 01:49:01.142
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she did.
01:49:01.202 --> 01:49:03.384
[SPEAKER_01]: That design kicks ass.
01:49:03.404 --> 01:49:04.845
[SPEAKER_01]: That was wonderful.
01:49:05.705 --> 01:49:08.046
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not for Barbara.
01:49:08.127 --> 01:49:09.367
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a Stephanie costume.
01:49:09.828 --> 01:49:11.048
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be a Stephanie costume.
01:49:11.068 --> 01:49:12.469
[SPEAKER_01]: It should not be a Barbara Gordon costume.
01:49:13.089 --> 01:49:20.774
[SPEAKER_01]: And Barbara Gordon should I. I. I don't agree with the decision to like do what the killing joke did in the first place.
01:49:20.834 --> 01:49:24.176
[SPEAKER_02]: But but after you've been doing it with for twenty years, you might as well stick with it.
01:49:24.196 --> 01:49:25.557
[SPEAKER_01]: I already.
01:49:26.417 --> 01:49:28.679
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, at the time, it was it was twenty something.
01:49:29.430 --> 01:49:29.790
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right.
01:49:29.830 --> 01:49:30.191
[SPEAKER_01]: It was funny.
01:49:30.551 --> 01:49:34.073
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but still, it was, they, they should have stuck with it.
01:49:34.213 --> 01:49:35.334
[SPEAKER_01]: They should have given us work.
01:49:35.394 --> 01:49:36.735
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's so much cooler.
01:49:36.995 --> 01:49:41.038
[SPEAKER_02]: If they were going to make her back early again, they should have given her a mix suit like when her dad becomes Batman.
01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:44.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:49:44.461 --> 01:49:47.783
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually really like what they do in the back girls book.
01:49:48.343 --> 01:49:55.128
[SPEAKER_01]: of a couple years ago, and I think it was the twenty-twenty-two book, Back Girls Plural, which is that she doesn't need the wheelchair all the time.
01:49:55.188 --> 01:50:01.773
[SPEAKER_01]: She can walk some days, but like, because she's like the implant and her spine or something, but she basically has like, good pain days and bad pain days.
01:50:01.813 --> 01:50:07.077
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are some days where like, she could put on the costume, and she can go do her thing, and she can go be back girl.
01:50:07.097 --> 01:50:09.239
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are other days where she's like, oh, no.
01:50:10.540 --> 01:50:11.281
[SPEAKER_01]: We're sitting in the chair.
01:50:12.061 --> 01:50:13.202
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not jumping off rooftops.
01:50:13.883 --> 01:50:15.624
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's just, it's not in the cards.
01:50:16.154 --> 01:50:21.158
[SPEAKER_01]: And I liked that a lot, actually, because I think it kind of best of both worlds the situation.
01:50:21.218 --> 01:50:24.501
[SPEAKER_01]: And it means that she can't just like come say people.
01:50:25.201 --> 01:50:25.441
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:50:25.501 --> 01:50:28.263
[SPEAKER_01]: On a rooftop, she used to use the tech skills and things.
01:50:28.303 --> 01:50:30.485
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they should have said more than just these two fuckers.
01:50:30.545 --> 01:50:33.147
[SPEAKER_01]: These two fuckers are, they don't know what they're walking into.
01:50:34.188 --> 01:50:39.272
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I do have a note here about Tam, which is I think it's interesting that Tam has straight here.
01:50:41.920 --> 01:51:00.691
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's generally because artists don't want to draw black hair usually, but also it makes sense for Tam to be a character who is either like wearing a wig or pressing her hair, using a round brush, getting a soap press, something like that.
01:51:02.632 --> 01:51:08.176
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I, because like when Tiffany comes around, Tiffany has like a, has like an Afro.
01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:13.723
[SPEAKER_01]: And isn't she like a high school teacher or a nurse or something?
01:51:14.584 --> 01:51:15.104
[SPEAKER_01]: Tiffany?
01:51:15.905 --> 01:51:24.691
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, isn't Tiffany like, um, they mentioned that in one of the earlier issues because Lucius is talking about two daughters.
01:51:25.392 --> 01:51:37.201
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, she does some kind of like that service job, but like, um, good people helping job because if you're like a nurse or a teacher or something and she's she's not like a business executive.
01:51:38.908 --> 01:51:43.113
[SPEAKER_02]: She works for the drug rehab program for Wayne enterprise.
01:51:43.614 --> 01:51:44.034
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
01:51:46.577 --> 01:51:52.745
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but not as like executive lady was my understanding of it.
01:51:53.025 --> 01:51:54.067
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:51:54.778 --> 01:51:57.379
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, it would, it would make sense, I guess.
01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:10.546
[SPEAKER_02]: But she's like pressing her, like, you know, at the time, hey, I want to look whatever people's association of, yeah, twenty ten, whatever people's association of professional looks like.
01:52:11.327 --> 01:52:14.548
[SPEAKER_02]: If they brought this character back, I would want her wearing her, her curls.
01:52:15.669 --> 01:52:16.870
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.
01:52:17.230 --> 01:52:18.210
[SPEAKER_02]: Protect your crown queen.
01:52:18.290 --> 01:52:19.091
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't put all that heat in it.
01:52:23.053 --> 01:52:24.495
[SPEAKER_02]: Vicki asks Tam.
01:52:25.115 --> 01:52:25.756
[SPEAKER_02]: What do I want to know?
01:52:25.816 --> 01:52:26.217
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
01:52:26.577 --> 01:52:27.478
[SPEAKER_02]: Where do I begin?
01:52:27.918 --> 01:52:29.039
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, how do you know Tim Drake?
01:52:29.180 --> 01:52:33.864
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, well, he, uh, he's Tim Drake Wayne.
01:52:33.924 --> 01:52:36.747
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm, you know, my dad works with Mr. Wayne.
01:52:36.867 --> 01:52:37.728
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
01:52:38.409 --> 01:52:40.391
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, and you're here now to say what?
01:52:40.971 --> 01:52:41.292
[SPEAKER_02]: Hi.
01:52:41.312 --> 01:52:41.372
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:52:46.078 --> 01:52:50.120
[SPEAKER_01]: You do such a good job of making it seem like she's she's really bomb in this interview.
01:52:50.140 --> 01:52:51.060
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not going well.
01:52:51.280 --> 01:52:54.121
[SPEAKER_02]: Tam is nineteen and was woefully unprepared for this.
01:52:54.801 --> 01:52:55.482
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh she's handled.
01:52:55.502 --> 01:53:01.604
[SPEAKER_01]: Tam has been thrown into the deep at the last month of Tam's life has been the craziest shit.
01:53:02.985 --> 01:53:04.065
[SPEAKER_01]: She's overwhelmed.
01:53:04.085 --> 01:53:04.986
[SPEAKER_01]: She's been shot at.
01:53:05.326 --> 01:53:06.827
[SPEAKER_01]: She's been tried to be assassinated.
01:53:06.847 --> 01:53:08.028
[SPEAKER_01]: She's avoiding explosions.
01:53:08.068 --> 01:53:09.608
[SPEAKER_01]: And now she's going to go find this dude.
01:53:09.628 --> 01:53:11.149
[SPEAKER_01]: She can't once again.
01:53:11.229 --> 01:53:13.291
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, because he ran off.
01:53:13.311 --> 01:53:14.571
[SPEAKER_01]: She got him all the way back to Gotham.
01:53:14.952 --> 01:53:16.473
[SPEAKER_01]: She followed two African kids.
01:53:16.493 --> 01:53:19.614
[SPEAKER_02]: She got this boy back from Afghanistan to New Jersey.
01:53:19.635 --> 01:53:22.816
[SPEAKER_01]: She went up in a cave that got a balloon up.
01:53:29.992 --> 01:53:33.294
[SPEAKER_01]: And now she's got this nosey ass reporter who's like, why are you here?
01:53:33.334 --> 01:53:38.997
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, can I just, I can't give me a fucking break dude.
01:53:39.917 --> 01:53:41.758
[SPEAKER_01]: I can I just, I picture her.
01:53:41.818 --> 01:53:46.281
[SPEAKER_01]: She just needs to sit down on like the curb and just put her head in her hands and just like have one single tear.
01:53:46.301 --> 01:53:47.361
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know face for a moment.
01:53:47.381 --> 01:53:50.263
[SPEAKER_01]: Just be like, I need a moment to be overwhelmed.
01:53:51.280 --> 01:53:52.602
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:53:53.964 --> 01:53:57.309
[SPEAKER_02]: So Vicki goes, how well do you know him?
01:53:57.810 --> 01:53:59.672
[SPEAKER_02]: How would you characterize his relationship with Bruce Wayne?
01:53:59.693 --> 01:54:01.315
[SPEAKER_02]: Just father and son?
01:54:01.715 --> 01:54:04.540
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know where a misrake or Tim Drake is misfox?
01:54:04.700 --> 01:54:05.361
[SPEAKER_02]: No, actually.
01:54:05.421 --> 01:54:06.643
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know where he's been last few months?
01:54:07.184 --> 01:54:07.424
[SPEAKER_02]: Europe.
01:54:07.983 --> 01:54:08.663
[SPEAKER_02]: really with you?
01:54:08.864 --> 01:54:09.124
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:54:09.784 --> 01:54:10.525
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no.
01:54:11.065 --> 01:54:11.685
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that on your?
01:54:12.126 --> 01:54:12.586
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
01:54:12.706 --> 01:54:24.954
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she notices the laser sight and dives to help her in Tim thinks I should have stayed with Tam because whatever she's doing, it's got to be better than this.
01:54:25.534 --> 01:54:26.115
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is.
01:54:26.275 --> 01:54:27.716
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good page turn.
01:54:27.816 --> 01:54:32.479
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tim, Steph, and Prue in a three on seven handicap match.
01:54:35.400 --> 01:54:35.861
[SPEAKER_01]: Fighting.
01:54:35.881 --> 01:54:37.482
[SPEAKER_01]: The League of Assassins.
01:54:39.195 --> 01:54:46.498
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Tim thinks a thousand thoughts run through my mind, but first and foremost, don't let, please, God, don't let Merlin be here.
01:54:47.518 --> 01:54:51.019
[SPEAKER_02]: And uh, he tells, bro, no killing.
01:54:51.259 --> 01:54:52.080
[SPEAKER_02]: You hear me?
01:54:52.120 --> 01:54:53.220
[SPEAKER_02]: She's, you're insane.
01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:54.340
[SPEAKER_02]: She's probably right.
01:54:55.761 --> 01:54:59.122
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the seven men of death of the deadliest killers to League of Assassins have.
01:54:59.282 --> 01:55:00.943
[SPEAKER_02]: They worked for the Sensei directly.
01:55:02.223 --> 01:55:05.084
[SPEAKER_02]: The Sensei being Rayshelgul's father, we think.
01:55:06.110 --> 01:55:09.753
[SPEAKER_01]: Safe to assume that no one remembers things about the League of Assassins.
01:55:09.893 --> 01:55:12.335
[SPEAKER_01]: Even at this time, that's my favorite thing about.
01:55:12.415 --> 01:55:14.236
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim was leading the League of Assassins.
01:55:14.256 --> 01:55:15.537
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I don't know shit about these guys.
01:55:16.217 --> 01:55:17.278
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in their computers.
01:55:17.318 --> 01:55:17.798
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:22.522
[SPEAKER_01]: Richard Bull is maybe he's two hundred, maybe he's eight hundred, who the fuck knows.
01:55:22.662 --> 01:55:32.509
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I love I also love that because it's really good for this kind of storytelling because I am of the opinion that when you try to answer too many questions in these sorts of things, you're going to have the thing you're just going to do.
01:55:32.529 --> 01:55:32.609
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:55:33.990 --> 01:55:37.253
[SPEAKER_01]: It's either going to get refuted or you're like boxing something into a court.
01:55:37.313 --> 01:55:38.674
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it when it's a lot more vibes based.
01:55:38.714 --> 01:55:40.355
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's just like, yeah, we think that's his dad.
01:55:42.677 --> 01:55:44.538
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucking out before you continue.
01:55:44.578 --> 01:55:48.261
[SPEAKER_01]: I must interrupt you though because I have been jumped scared because once again, I'm reading this physically.
01:55:48.281 --> 01:55:56.347
[SPEAKER_01]: This ad just celebrate National Library Day featuring the honorary chairman of National Library Day.
01:56:01.207 --> 01:56:03.068
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a fucking meal came in.
01:56:03.248 --> 01:56:05.910
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
01:56:05.990 --> 01:56:07.211
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm staring at this page.
01:56:07.251 --> 01:56:08.972
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, hello there.
01:56:09.072 --> 01:56:10.013
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see you.
01:56:10.053 --> 01:56:10.973
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see you.
01:56:10.993 --> 01:56:12.394
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see you looking at me.
01:56:12.414 --> 01:56:12.534
[SPEAKER_02]: Me.
01:56:12.594 --> 01:56:12.735
[SPEAKER_02]: Me.
01:56:12.795 --> 01:56:12.935
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:56:13.135 --> 01:56:14.135
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be perceived by Mr. Gaming.
01:56:24.801 --> 01:56:27.682
[SPEAKER_01]: I want him as far away from me as physically possible.
01:56:29.102 --> 01:56:30.103
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to jail.
01:56:30.463 --> 01:56:31.623
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to jail.
01:56:31.643 --> 01:56:33.084
[SPEAKER_01]: I should.
01:56:33.484 --> 01:56:34.164
[SPEAKER_01]: She's Christ.
01:56:34.304 --> 01:56:34.764
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, sorry.
01:56:34.804 --> 01:56:35.284
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to.
01:56:36.505 --> 01:56:42.447
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes the ads and comic books are a wonderful fascinating blast from past and sometimes.
01:56:44.347 --> 01:57:00.692
[SPEAKER_02]: Microcosm of there is always ads for like really shitty looking you be soft video because you be soft as publish a fucking anything in twenty ten anything we got to get back to that we got to get back to win publishers were just like fucking green like that I don't give a shit
01:57:02.820 --> 01:57:04.661
[SPEAKER_01]: double a title double a title.
01:57:05.001 --> 01:57:29.396
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to get back because I watched Kpop Demon Hunters a couple weeks ago and I thought to myself damn if this shit came out like two thousand eight there had been there had been a game based on this that would have shipped on every fucking console there would have been a PS two one a PS a better PS three one a much better three sixty one a real a surprisingly good we title
01:57:31.360 --> 01:57:34.662
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know this is a tangent, but I actually do know a lot about this.
01:57:34.842 --> 01:57:44.468
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do listen, or I work in the video game industry, I'm a software engineer for video game engines, and so I have a lot of co-workers who worked on a lot of games over the course of their careers.
01:57:44.528 --> 01:57:45.469
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just what happens.
01:57:45.869 --> 01:57:49.111
[SPEAKER_01]: You have co-workers, they've had careers, and usually you've heard of these things.
01:57:49.591 --> 01:57:59.858
[SPEAKER_01]: And for a long time, I had a large chunk of my co-workers came from two different companies, both are now defunct, but their bread and butter was doing those tie-in games.
01:58:00.855 --> 01:58:02.735
[SPEAKER_01]: for basically just any platform.
01:58:03.036 --> 01:58:08.837
[SPEAKER_01]: So, for example, one of the people on my team worked on the Nintendo DS Chronicles of Nardie game.
01:58:08.937 --> 01:58:10.497
[SPEAKER_01]: It was his very first game credit ever.
01:58:10.718 --> 01:58:11.598
[SPEAKER_01]: I played that shit.
01:58:11.798 --> 01:58:13.178
[SPEAKER_01]: When I was a kid, I owned that.
01:58:13.478 --> 01:58:17.839
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Diablo clone, but I didn't know what Diablo was, so I thought it was very fresh and they'll.
01:58:18.259 --> 01:58:20.980
[SPEAKER_01]: But like their whole job was literally like a gameist.
01:58:21.160 --> 01:58:22.400
[SPEAKER_01]: A movie is coming out.
01:58:22.420 --> 01:58:23.421
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the shift date.
01:58:23.481 --> 01:58:24.521
[SPEAKER_01]: You have nine months.
01:58:25.561 --> 01:58:27.262
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't really care what the mechanics are.
01:58:27.342 --> 01:58:28.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's some vague
01:58:29.390 --> 01:58:30.951
[SPEAKER_01]: plot points of what the movie's going to be.
01:58:31.011 --> 01:58:32.171
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't tell you the whole thing.
01:58:32.511 --> 01:58:35.813
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's some, like, here's what the costumes look like, go.
01:58:36.333 --> 01:58:37.333
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, that's it.
01:58:37.713 --> 01:58:40.835
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, like, they had really tight turnaround.
01:58:41.115 --> 01:58:43.096
[SPEAKER_01]: They were really cheap, like, to make.
01:58:43.216 --> 01:58:46.917
[SPEAKER_01]: And also because they had their teams had, like, less than twenty people on them.
01:58:47.578 --> 01:58:49.899
[SPEAKER_01]: Every single time for everything, art code, all of it.
01:58:50.259 --> 01:58:55.201
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was literally just like, hey, because here, come do this.
01:58:55.341 --> 01:58:55.441
[SPEAKER_01]: And
01:58:56.380 --> 01:59:10.346
[SPEAKER_01]: I also refact that their companies did the X-Men origins Wolverine giant games, and apparently, when they asked for reference material for things, Marvel, they were like, hey, can we have some comics for the reference?
01:59:10.786 --> 01:59:14.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Marvel sent them this gigantic zip file that just contained a bunch of pirated PDF.
01:59:16.308 --> 01:59:18.689
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, twenty years worth of Wolverine comics?
01:59:20.410 --> 01:59:22.591
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, hey, we pirated our own shit, here you go.
01:59:26.478 --> 01:59:30.201
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, as an industry, those don't really exist anymore.
01:59:30.622 --> 01:59:38.549
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot of those places went belly up, unfortunately, because it's just not the people are buying that stuff anymore.
01:59:40.831 --> 01:59:42.212
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
01:59:42.312 --> 01:59:45.415
[SPEAKER_02]: Looking at what do you be soft was publishing in twenty-ten?
01:59:46.716 --> 01:59:52.221
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a iOS port of Assassin's Creed II or a spin-off of Assassin's Creed II.
01:59:53.504 --> 01:59:53.925
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a port.
01:59:54.165 --> 01:59:54.625
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a iOS.
01:59:54.685 --> 01:59:55.026
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:59:55.126 --> 01:59:56.227
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:59:56.287 --> 02:00:00.530
[SPEAKER_02]: The PC port of Assassin's Creed II came out in March of that year.
02:00:01.110 --> 02:00:03.632
[SPEAKER_02]: No more heroes too, which I forgot they published.
02:00:06.034 --> 02:00:09.417
[SPEAKER_02]: Red steel to splinter cell conviction.
02:00:11.099 --> 02:00:18.645
[SPEAKER_02]: Prince of Persia, the forgotten sands, which I think they put out four Prince of Persia games a year or they put out.
02:00:18.685 --> 02:00:21.067
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that time of the Drake Gillen home movie?
02:00:21.087 --> 02:00:22.648
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the Jake Gillen home Prince of Persia.
02:00:23.401 --> 02:00:24.342
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:00:24.382 --> 02:00:28.124
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, wasn't that the sands of time or the sands of time and then forgotten sands.
02:00:28.164 --> 02:00:40.893
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Scott Pilgrim versus the world, the game, which released on the PS three on August tenth, but then released on the three sixty two weeks later, which that feels like something didn't pass, sir.
02:00:44.079 --> 02:00:57.385
[SPEAKER_02]: That problem, you know what, you're right, it probably didn't pass or because the same thing happens with Hawks to or Tom Plansy's Hawks to comes out on September third on the three sixty but then on September tenth on the PS three.
02:00:59.006 --> 02:01:01.747
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's too tight to be like an exclusivity release window.
02:01:01.767 --> 02:01:08.330
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you listen to our passing cert means there's this like series of automated tests that happen before you can put a game on a console.
02:01:08.350 --> 02:01:12.272
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how they make sure that it's not like fucking spyware and that you're not trying to like
02:01:12.690 --> 02:01:15.711
[SPEAKER_01]: pack the Xbox or PlayStation or whichever it is.
02:01:16.992 --> 02:01:20.674
[SPEAKER_01]: And the console manufacturers before you're allowed to have a game that will run.
02:01:20.694 --> 02:01:26.876
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you don't have the right like stamp in your executable, it won't launch and you absolutely need it.
02:01:27.036 --> 02:01:32.139
[SPEAKER_01]: And passing certain means you have to give your game executable or your goal master copy.
02:01:32.339 --> 02:01:34.840
[SPEAKER_01]: It was called goal master because they'd literally printed them on disks with
02:01:35.372 --> 02:01:42.816
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be super heavyability, and they would send them to Microsoft and Sony, and they would have their own internal people do these big series of play tests.
02:01:42.896 --> 02:01:48.119
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes they got really, but like, fantastic about things.
02:01:48.159 --> 02:01:53.442
[SPEAKER_01]: So first of all, it would not crash if you pulled the memory card out of a PS to while it was running.
02:01:53.642 --> 02:01:56.904
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, for example, with things like that, you had to be doing a lot of things.
02:01:56.944 --> 02:02:01.727
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes if your game was really buggy, you would have a hard time passing search
02:02:02.304 --> 02:02:06.565
[SPEAKER_01]: And you would like, they would deny you and it doesn't matter how much you spend on your marketing.
02:02:06.765 --> 02:02:08.905
[SPEAKER_01]: If they say no, you've got to fix it.
02:02:08.945 --> 02:02:12.086
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to have your version of it ready to be put on the disks and everything.
02:02:13.146 --> 02:02:16.347
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a faster process now because you don't actually need to put things on physical disks anymore.
02:02:16.367 --> 02:02:20.008
[SPEAKER_01]: You could send the sort of executable and just be like, this is the executable.
02:02:20.048 --> 02:02:20.488
[SPEAKER_01]: Here you go.
02:02:20.528 --> 02:02:21.468
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they test it.
02:02:21.588 --> 02:02:23.309
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's easier to patch things nowadays.
02:02:23.529 --> 02:02:24.289
[SPEAKER_01]: So that also helps.
02:02:24.329 --> 02:02:26.589
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's super fucking important.
02:02:27.990 --> 02:02:30.050
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you miss that,
02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:32.081
[SPEAKER_01]: You might not make your deadline.
02:02:33.483 --> 02:02:37.446
[SPEAKER_02]: And it'll just, it'll just fuck up the release date.
02:02:37.466 --> 02:02:37.667
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
02:02:39.168 --> 02:02:44.453
[SPEAKER_02]: And so now your game that was supposed to come out across all skews on, let's say October first.
02:02:44.953 --> 02:02:53.622
[SPEAKER_02]: Now is going to inexplicably come out on one skew that day and then all the other ones on the ninth or whatever.
02:02:54.345 --> 02:03:08.649
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or something like that, which is different than sometimes there's like a deal where it's like, oh, this will be a Sony exclusive for three months and they have this window and then it'll come out on the other ones and that's more of like a. Yes, we bought a deal with this to get it first.
02:03:08.989 --> 02:03:10.070
[SPEAKER_01]: They do that with Tomb Raider.
02:03:10.330 --> 02:03:15.591
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they did it with a was a rise of the Tomb Raider came out on the Xbox one.
02:03:16.391 --> 02:03:18.072
[SPEAKER_02]: It came out Xbox first.
02:03:18.692 --> 02:03:24.416
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it came out like almost like a game of the year edition on the PlayStation.
02:03:25.197 --> 02:03:25.377
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:03:25.857 --> 02:03:27.479
[SPEAKER_02]: With all the like DLC stuff in it.
02:03:28.760 --> 02:03:29.920
[SPEAKER_02]: Anywho.
02:03:29.981 --> 02:03:30.861
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was marketing thing.
02:03:31.041 --> 02:03:31.241
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:03:31.722 --> 02:03:38.247
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, sorry, I this all came because I interrupted with the ads that you find in comic books.
02:03:38.747 --> 02:03:46.973
[SPEAKER_01]: I was telling Marcus earlier, I bought these issues off of people last from past the bitter racket my grocery store, my local grocery store and Ohio
02:03:47.664 --> 02:03:57.078
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and after this series was over, when they started and moved to the new fifty two, they did not pick up any of the new fifty two, and they stopped carrying comic books entirely at that grocery store.
02:03:58.860 --> 02:04:02.705
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a, however, we can get comic books back into the grocery stores.
02:04:02.786 --> 02:04:04.208
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how we fixed things.
02:04:05.146 --> 02:04:05.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
02:04:05.907 --> 02:04:10.893
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, even to the big ones, just get like, get into the target, get into Superman.
02:04:10.933 --> 02:04:15.338
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Wonder Woman and X-Men, both a Spider-Man book and Avengers book.
02:04:15.419 --> 02:04:16.800
[SPEAKER_01]: Just get just those six.
02:04:17.021 --> 02:04:18.863
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just get those.
02:04:19.504 --> 02:04:20.585
[SPEAKER_01]: Check out of Target.
02:04:20.845 --> 02:04:31.231
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I think the compact comics format rules because it's like, hey, ten dollars and you get like I think across what the ones I have looking at myself.
02:04:31.251 --> 02:04:48.881
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got Watchmen Wonder Woman Earth one all star Superman and Hush I got all those for a grand total of forty dollars That's good Like that's where that's where manga really eight comic books lunch was truly just the like yeah, the talkable like purchase
02:04:50.319 --> 02:05:11.098
[SPEAKER_01]: Easy purchase cheap and also that like I recently read somebody post something up loose guy about it and they were like what comics need is to be disposable again because like a manga like that if a child can throw it in the backpack and not be worried about bending the page like being precious about keeping this thing nice is harming the ability to just fucking read them
02:05:11.353 --> 02:05:19.077
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have a friend who has all these comics that she got from her ex husband, and she's like, I get antsy about it.
02:05:19.097 --> 02:05:27.862
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to open them because I'm like, that's what, it's funny because like the speculators market is what like fucked comics in the nine views.
02:05:27.922 --> 02:05:29.303
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what the story comics, I know.
02:05:29.323 --> 02:05:34.646
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like people destroying Marvel by like five and sadly it was a lot of debt.
02:05:34.986 --> 02:05:35.406
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
02:05:37.007 --> 02:05:37.267
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoops.
02:05:38.953 --> 02:05:41.519
[SPEAKER_01]: of any who absolutely and suspicious dumb.
02:05:41.860 --> 02:05:42.141
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I
02:05:43.030 --> 02:05:44.991
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you all know, which you clicked on the app.
02:05:45.031 --> 02:05:46.792
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so you saw my name.
02:05:46.812 --> 02:05:52.755
[SPEAKER_01]: You said, yeah, even if you didn't see the name, you saw this was a Robin related episode.
02:05:53.375 --> 02:05:57.317
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that you could probably guess as to what they're showing up for this one.
02:05:57.337 --> 02:05:59.318
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're fighting ninjas.
02:05:59.498 --> 02:06:01.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're fighting the, what is it?
02:06:01.819 --> 02:06:02.819
[SPEAKER_01]: The seven men of death.
02:06:03.239 --> 02:06:04.260
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven men of death.
02:06:05.080 --> 02:06:10.583
[SPEAKER_02]: Steph throws a guy off with the, she throws off a shooter with a battering.
02:06:12.094 --> 02:06:16.896
[SPEAKER_02]: and Tim stops to note how good Steph is now and how much she's been working.
02:06:17.837 --> 02:06:20.558
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, she's like, we got seven minutes for the Rikisha gets here.
02:06:20.598 --> 02:06:22.019
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, that's about six minutes too long.
02:06:22.039 --> 02:06:25.601
[SPEAKER_02]: It was good as Batgirl and Perkins are, this is a different level.
02:06:25.781 --> 02:06:28.022
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't win this fight in a minute or so.
02:06:28.182 --> 02:06:29.823
[SPEAKER_02]: One of us will slip and that'll be the end of it.
02:06:30.323 --> 02:06:33.345
[SPEAKER_02]: And the worst part of it all is this is all just a distraction.
02:06:33.605 --> 02:06:37.767
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a Tim phrase I like to with the worst part of it is because he says that a lot.
02:06:38.580 --> 02:06:41.261
[SPEAKER_02]: When things are going bad, he's like in the worst part of it.
02:06:42.021 --> 02:06:44.301
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I haven't even gotten to where this is really bad yet.
02:06:45.082 --> 02:06:46.522
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I've listened five bad things.
02:06:46.722 --> 02:06:47.502
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even know.
02:06:47.702 --> 02:07:07.267
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he says that in one, eighty three when he, when he breaks up as a win, he calls her because he says, uh, you calls a win, Wilkins, the girl who is supposed to be your girlfriend who you haven't been able to make time for and never will.
02:07:07.387 --> 02:07:08.347
[SPEAKER_02]: And the worst part of it,
02:07:08.667 --> 02:07:12.490
[SPEAKER_02]: is that you've let her down so many times, you don't even know if she cares anymore.
02:07:12.931 --> 02:07:13.631
[SPEAKER_02]: And she cares a lot.
02:07:13.851 --> 02:07:15.012
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she cares a lot.
02:07:15.052 --> 02:07:15.813
[SPEAKER_02]: She starts crying.
02:07:15.833 --> 02:07:18.775
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's brutal.
02:07:19.916 --> 02:07:25.320
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, people love Tim Drake and he's just really bad at being in relationships with him.
02:07:25.500 --> 02:07:28.263
[SPEAKER_02]: He's kitty bride kind of.
02:07:28.723 --> 02:07:29.844
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
02:07:29.984 --> 02:07:32.366
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to talk about two characters who I would love to.
02:07:32.386 --> 02:07:33.227
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to.
02:07:33.687 --> 02:07:34.408
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I would love to.
02:07:38.465 --> 02:07:38.925
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
02:07:38.965 --> 02:07:40.265
[SPEAKER_02]: Constantly backsliding.
02:07:42.526 --> 02:07:43.666
[SPEAKER_01]: She gets to age though.
02:07:43.866 --> 02:07:44.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:07:44.346 --> 02:07:44.846
[SPEAKER_01]: He does not.
02:07:44.866 --> 02:07:50.727
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, really the X-Men character that Tim is most like as Jubilee, which is very funny.
02:07:51.988 --> 02:07:55.288
[SPEAKER_01]: That tracks because of the very, very specific nineties vibe.
02:07:55.828 --> 02:07:57.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Very specific nineties cool vibe.
02:07:58.009 --> 02:08:03.950
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Jubilee is Marvel's equivalent of Robin in the nineties because Wolverine is Batman.
02:08:04.790 --> 02:08:05.010
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:08:06.404 --> 02:08:10.206
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Tim realizes that Prudence isn't trying to kill these guys.
02:08:10.246 --> 02:08:11.927
[SPEAKER_02]: She's just like shooting to wound.
02:08:11.947 --> 02:08:17.430
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is good because he's been trying to prevent her from shooting people in the face for the entire comic.
02:08:17.550 --> 02:08:17.731
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:08:17.831 --> 02:08:21.773
[SPEAKER_01]: Every single time she goes for it, he like knocks her gun out of the way and she's always like, fuck you.
02:08:22.593 --> 02:08:22.853
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
02:08:22.873 --> 02:08:23.274
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:08:23.354 --> 02:08:24.694
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, we don't kill.
02:08:24.734 --> 02:08:26.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I'm an assassin.
02:08:27.496 --> 02:08:28.517
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also English.
02:08:30.298 --> 02:08:31.298
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a assassin.
02:08:32.019 --> 02:08:34.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, a really bad accent.
02:08:35.054 --> 02:08:35.879
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:08:36.845 --> 02:08:37.872
[SPEAKER_02]: Eat a dick team tonight.
02:08:40.452 --> 02:09:05.951
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... she uh... pru gets a slash across the face by not lady death strike uh... staff gets shot in the leg tim takes uh... shirk into the shoulder and uh... the guy with the hook hand goes you didn't do too badly kid just not good enough any last words yeah seven minutes is up and the ricochet comes through and plows this guy over like a like a bowling pin
02:09:06.942 --> 02:09:07.903
[SPEAKER_02]: He says back to her.
02:09:07.923 --> 02:09:12.308
[SPEAKER_01]: She is basically the motorcycle from the dark night.
02:09:12.428 --> 02:09:14.170
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what it is.
02:09:14.851 --> 02:09:15.432
[SPEAKER_02]: It just purple.
02:09:16.413 --> 02:09:17.394
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course.
02:09:17.755 --> 02:09:20.117
[SPEAKER_02]: Backer came up with the actual plan of run like hell.
02:09:20.358 --> 02:09:20.958
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good one.
02:09:21.038 --> 02:09:25.063
[SPEAKER_02]: And I died before I ever told her this, but that ricochet of hers is pretty great.
02:09:29.435 --> 02:09:34.539
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim and Peru grab onto his bike and just get the fuck out of there.
02:09:34.559 --> 02:09:38.101
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, if I'm survive this, I'm getting new cycle, one that flies.
02:09:38.421 --> 02:09:43.825
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, Tim grapple hooks in the dude with the hook and they just drag him.
02:09:44.946 --> 02:09:45.946
[SPEAKER_01]: He just kicked out his panties.
02:09:45.966 --> 02:09:47.688
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, and you're coming with me.
02:09:48.708 --> 02:09:53.672
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim and Tam, or Tam and Vicki are running to Wayne Manor while Bullets are being fired at him.
02:09:54.352 --> 02:09:55.093
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tam says.
02:09:55.113 --> 02:09:56.374
[SPEAKER_01]: They jump a very tall wall.
02:09:56.414 --> 02:09:56.574
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:09:57.662 --> 02:10:00.082
[SPEAKER_02]: Vicki is wearing out not small heel, too.
02:10:01.183 --> 02:10:03.903
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like in Jurassic Park, Jurassic World.
02:10:04.023 --> 02:10:07.004
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like in Jurassic World, and she wears those heels the whole time.
02:10:07.524 --> 02:10:08.864
[SPEAKER_02]: Vicki said, I'm not taking my shoes off.
02:10:09.804 --> 02:10:10.864
[SPEAKER_02]: She probably should have.
02:10:11.285 --> 02:10:16.165
[SPEAKER_02]: But see, lowest wouldn't have been in this situation because lowest wears a sensible shoe.
02:10:17.586 --> 02:10:18.826
[SPEAKER_01]: Lowest wears incredible clothes.
02:10:18.946 --> 02:10:19.906
[SPEAKER_01]: I want all of lowest.
02:10:21.186 --> 02:10:23.867
[SPEAKER_02]: But lowest is putting on a sensible shoe in case she's got a run.
02:10:25.429 --> 02:10:31.233
[SPEAKER_01]: I promised I wouldn't say any spoilers, but Superman and this is not a spoiler, but I didn't think she had that shit on.
02:10:31.693 --> 02:10:35.015
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything she wore in that whole movie, I was like, I want that.
02:10:35.555 --> 02:10:36.996
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, this is a not a spoiler.
02:10:37.056 --> 02:10:38.217
[SPEAKER_02]: Jimmy Olsen has Hose.
02:10:39.698 --> 02:10:41.599
[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy Olsen, Fox.
02:10:42.900 --> 02:10:45.201
[SPEAKER_01]: She has Hose in different areas.
02:10:45.221 --> 02:10:45.602
[SPEAKER_01]: There he goes.
02:10:45.662 --> 02:10:47.443
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say this is the abominable home man.
02:10:48.538 --> 02:10:53.382
[SPEAKER_01]: She may also, that was maybe the best interpretation of Jimmy Olson they ever could have given up.
02:10:53.442 --> 02:10:55.124
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he's Mr. Bitches.
02:10:55.965 --> 02:11:00.749
[SPEAKER_01]: And he uses the power of being a man with how is to save the dick.
02:11:00.769 --> 02:11:01.389
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
02:11:02.450 --> 02:11:06.334
[SPEAKER_01]: The plot relies on him getting bitches.
02:11:07.895 --> 02:11:09.877
[SPEAKER_02]: No Jimmy Olson, you're bitches too bad.
02:11:09.977 --> 02:11:10.898
[SPEAKER_02]: You smoke too tough.
02:11:15.409 --> 02:11:19.051
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Tam is like recounting everything that's happened since she met Tim.
02:11:19.111 --> 02:11:24.994
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, since I met him, I've been knocked out, held captive, chased by murderer, shot at, stabbed at, blown up and interrogated.
02:11:25.494 --> 02:11:26.675
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm back to being shot at.
02:11:26.695 --> 02:11:29.636
[SPEAKER_02]: This veil lady was asking all kinds of questions about Tim.
02:11:29.676 --> 02:11:33.638
[SPEAKER_02]: What his deal is, what I know about him, and then I realized I don't know anything about him.
02:11:34.418 --> 02:11:38.640
[SPEAKER_02]: And even though I'm gonna die because I met him, I can't help but feel he's special.
02:11:39.221 --> 02:11:42.262
[SPEAKER_02]: He's important and he'd better get here right freaking now.
02:11:42.362 --> 02:11:43.683
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe this is happening again.
02:11:45.660 --> 02:11:46.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Love her.
02:11:47.141 --> 02:11:48.662
[SPEAKER_01]: She's so, she's so good.
02:11:48.782 --> 02:11:53.466
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish that like she could show up more, but my understanding is that she never really shows up again.
02:11:53.546 --> 02:11:54.847
[SPEAKER_02]: No, she's in this and then that's it.
02:11:55.367 --> 02:11:58.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Because what has she's in this book and then it's new fifty two and then she's, it's reverse.
02:11:58.910 --> 02:12:00.671
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say she's a character that Chrissy else was writing.
02:12:01.512 --> 02:12:05.075
[SPEAKER_02]: And once they were like, okay, we're rebooting this stuff.
02:12:05.095 --> 02:12:08.337
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not continuing these storylines and a lot of these writers are not staying on.
02:12:10.419 --> 02:12:14.802
[SPEAKER_02]: Tam is a character who is totally superfluous, especially if Tim does not have a solo title.
02:12:16.049 --> 02:12:16.309
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
02:12:16.369 --> 02:12:17.449
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I've just tears.
02:12:17.790 --> 02:12:24.091
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the, like, Tim, after this book ends, Tim does not have a solo title again until twenty twenty three.
02:12:25.772 --> 02:12:26.632
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just okay.
02:12:26.832 --> 02:12:29.733
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just all right.
02:12:30.813 --> 02:12:32.994
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're like, what do you think?
02:12:33.054 --> 02:12:34.234
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking it's him Drake book.
02:12:34.275 --> 02:12:37.355
[SPEAKER_01]: You think in the most recent one and I was like, okay, here's the thing.
02:12:38.396 --> 02:12:39.336
[SPEAKER_02]: That book is just fine.
02:12:40.356 --> 02:12:41.517
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, it's really hard to follow.
02:12:41.637 --> 02:12:43.757
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very, like, you know what?
02:12:43.777 --> 02:12:44.057
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
02:12:44.117 --> 02:12:44.298
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
02:12:44.318 --> 02:12:44.658
[SPEAKER_01]: Writing's good.
02:12:44.738 --> 02:12:45.278
[SPEAKER_01]: Writing's good.
02:12:46.222 --> 02:12:47.523
[SPEAKER_02]: It reminds me of Tokyo Ghoul.
02:12:47.783 --> 02:12:50.965
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Tokyo Ghoul is great as long as there's not action going on.
02:12:51.105 --> 02:12:53.066
[SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as action is going on, it's like who the fuck is this?
02:12:53.326 --> 02:12:55.267
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't follow what I'm looking at here.
02:12:56.088 --> 02:13:00.450
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the flow of panels and pages and speech bubbles was just
02:13:01.193 --> 02:13:03.434
[SPEAKER_01]: very, like I've read a lot of comics.
02:13:03.574 --> 02:13:04.615
[SPEAKER_01]: I can usually put you together.
02:13:04.735 --> 02:13:09.818
[SPEAKER_01]: I was reading speech bubbles in the wrong order because it was the ordering was really crazy.
02:13:09.878 --> 02:13:10.758
[SPEAKER_01]: The like flow of action.
02:13:10.818 --> 02:13:12.759
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't make sense for my item of across the page.
02:13:12.799 --> 02:13:14.460
[SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea what was going on in a given time.
02:13:14.500 --> 02:13:16.241
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to like read and then read it.
02:13:16.261 --> 02:13:16.882
[SPEAKER_01]: And then me.
02:13:17.442 --> 02:13:18.363
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was.
02:13:18.803 --> 02:13:19.083
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:13:19.323 --> 02:13:22.185
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, this is much more clear because Marcus toe is good to stop.
02:13:22.225 --> 02:13:22.385
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:13:24.326 --> 02:13:26.947
[SPEAKER_02]: So Stephanie tells him, she's like, are you sure?
02:13:26.967 --> 02:13:28.888
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels wrong leaving you behind.
02:13:28.908 --> 02:13:29.549
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just trust me.
02:13:29.669 --> 02:13:30.990
[SPEAKER_02]: It's better that you're not here.
02:13:31.470 --> 02:13:35.012
[SPEAKER_02]: And Prudence is beating the shit out of this guy.
02:13:35.772 --> 02:13:39.635
[SPEAKER_01]: She punches his pool sunglasses at night explode.
02:13:41.035 --> 02:13:43.036
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tim says, when is it happening?
02:13:43.257 --> 02:13:45.338
[SPEAKER_02]: I want all of our coolest targets and I want them now.
02:13:46.037 --> 02:13:53.542
[SPEAKER_02]: He told us, told us to tell you, or the guy's like, he told us to tell you, once you know, wanted to see what you do to get it.
02:13:53.882 --> 02:13:54.102
[SPEAKER_02]: Who?
02:13:55.443 --> 02:14:05.429
[SPEAKER_02]: The Butler, the cop in his daughter, the first love, the whole thief, the son, the doctor, the replacement, the reporter, the steward, the girl apprentice.
02:14:05.669 --> 02:14:05.889
[SPEAKER_02]: When?
02:14:07.410 --> 02:14:25.664
[SPEAKER_02]: Already started can't stop him all and Tim says he wants me to know Ration he's playing with me something else is going on here since that's all I need and Oh Prue knocks guy out are Dick and Damian Batman and Robin.
02:14:26.045 --> 02:14:28.026
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Dick's Batman costume.
02:14:28.186 --> 02:14:29.347
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very good.
02:14:30.328 --> 02:14:30.848
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good one.
02:14:30.888 --> 02:14:32.870
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got the big bat shaped belt buckle
02:14:34.326 --> 02:14:34.586
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
02:14:34.786 --> 02:14:38.508
[SPEAKER_01]: And instead of pouches, it's got like metal compartments, so it's like a smoother thing.
02:14:38.888 --> 02:14:40.609
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love this Damian outfit.
02:14:40.709 --> 02:14:41.770
[SPEAKER_01]: I always love this.
02:14:42.070 --> 02:14:50.394
[SPEAKER_01]: The tunic, the tunic, the yellow cape with the black hood, the green boots and gloves, the green domino mask.
02:14:50.494 --> 02:14:52.795
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, it works really well for him.
02:14:53.016 --> 02:14:53.276
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:14:54.136 --> 02:14:55.697
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and so.
02:14:58.678 --> 02:14:59.659
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty immediately is like,
02:15:01.245 --> 02:15:02.366
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, I'm freaking hate this kid.
02:15:03.727 --> 02:15:08.311
[SPEAKER_01]: I can hate this little twerp, but he knows who I am, so she tries to hide behind him a little bit.
02:15:08.331 --> 02:15:09.672
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like stand behind him.
02:15:10.173 --> 02:15:15.397
[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't work because David is immediately like, assassins.
02:15:16.298 --> 02:15:16.698
[SPEAKER_01]: I know her.
02:15:17.419 --> 02:15:19.961
[SPEAKER_01]: But first, he's about to insult Steph, but then he stopped.
02:15:20.301 --> 02:15:23.484
[SPEAKER_02]: He was gonna go more like fat girl or something like that.
02:15:23.624 --> 02:15:24.164
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
02:15:24.545 --> 02:15:29.028
[SPEAKER_01]: He later in this series, he'll be like, since when did you start stuffing your bra?
02:15:30.888 --> 02:15:34.030
[SPEAKER_01]: I need you to stop.
02:15:34.991 --> 02:15:36.092
[SPEAKER_01]: You're such a little twerp.
02:15:36.893 --> 02:15:38.974
[SPEAKER_01]: He launches himself.
02:15:39.114 --> 02:15:44.459
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes to kick her Tim grabs him by the arm and throws him at the wall.
02:15:45.159 --> 02:15:50.043
[SPEAKER_02]: Damien rebounds, dives back at him and Tim grabs him up.
02:15:50.723 --> 02:15:52.325
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I don't have time for this.
02:15:53.506 --> 02:15:54.667
[SPEAKER_01]: He slams him on the ground.
02:15:56.908 --> 02:15:57.509
[SPEAKER_01]: And so you hear me?
02:15:59.798 --> 02:16:00.418
[SPEAKER_02]: in the business.
02:16:00.458 --> 02:16:02.419
[SPEAKER_01]: The last time they saw each other, they fought.
02:16:02.819 --> 02:16:04.379
[SPEAKER_01]: They're always fighting.
02:16:04.679 --> 02:16:07.640
[SPEAKER_01]: These two in this moment in time are also, it's on site.
02:16:07.840 --> 02:16:09.161
[SPEAKER_01]: Him and Jason, it's on site.
02:16:09.421 --> 02:16:11.521
[SPEAKER_01]: Him and Damian, it's also on site.
02:16:12.522 --> 02:16:15.503
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Damian coming around made him a middle child.
02:16:15.943 --> 02:16:18.343
[SPEAKER_02]: And so he's like, wow, I really don't know how to deal with this.
02:16:22.225 --> 02:16:25.091
[SPEAKER_01]: at least he couldn't make Jason a middle child because Jason was dead.
02:16:25.111 --> 02:16:29.700
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so when Jason comes back, he's lashing out at Tim because what do you mean I'm a middle child now?
02:16:29.760 --> 02:16:30.121
[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck you.
02:16:30.462 --> 02:16:32.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what do you mean you have all them dad's attention?
02:16:34.473 --> 02:16:43.921
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so Tommy, uh, as Bruce is in a vet or in a limo talking to some ninjas, uh, at Bruce's lawyer.
02:16:45.222 --> 02:16:47.203
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like this is going to be suspicious enough.
02:16:47.424 --> 02:16:48.865
[SPEAKER_02]: I really recommend you stay here.
02:16:49.385 --> 02:16:51.807
[SPEAKER_02]: Rachel, Google trusts you, Mr Wayne.
02:16:52.267 --> 02:16:55.410
[SPEAKER_02]: He trusts you to remember what will happen to you if you disobey him.
02:16:56.042 --> 02:16:58.903
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, whatever race wants, I'm his faithful servant.
02:16:59.744 --> 02:17:07.187
[SPEAKER_02]: Tam is hiding from an ninja at Wayne Manor, which Wayne Manor, you gotta, I gotta imagine play hide and seek at Wayne Manor, go super crazy.
02:17:08.167 --> 02:17:10.108
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be insane, this place is huge.
02:17:11.448 --> 02:17:12.609
[SPEAKER_02]: Damien's just on the roof.
02:17:14.230 --> 02:17:18.551
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely, if they're like hiding in a bell tower, why they have a bell tower, who knows, but they do.
02:17:19.632 --> 02:17:20.372
[SPEAKER_01]: She's hiding in a bush.
02:17:21.233 --> 02:17:21.773
[SPEAKER_01]: Not very well.
02:17:22.837 --> 02:17:24.278
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, oh, God, please don't kill me.
02:17:24.318 --> 02:17:25.019
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to die.
02:17:25.319 --> 02:17:26.940
[SPEAKER_02]: Where is the reporter?
02:17:26.980 --> 02:17:33.084
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me, and your death will be swift, and Vicki comes out of nowhere with a shovel and knocks this dude out.
02:17:33.985 --> 02:17:36.387
[SPEAKER_01]: Vicki with the steel chair.
02:17:37.407 --> 02:17:38.488
[SPEAKER_01]: She just absolutely bodies.
02:17:38.728 --> 02:17:41.010
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, across the head, this man is probably dead.
02:17:41.230 --> 02:17:41.390
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:17:41.771 --> 02:17:43.452
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, she killed that niche.
02:17:43.852 --> 02:17:45.113
[SPEAKER_02]: She smoked this guy.
02:17:46.054 --> 02:17:49.037
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and Vicki goes pretty good with the act back there.
02:17:49.057 --> 02:17:49.717
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what I act.
02:17:49.778 --> 02:17:50.939
[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't want to tie.
02:17:51.199 --> 02:17:51.959
[SPEAKER_02]: What's this all about?
02:17:52.100 --> 02:17:53.200
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you tell me, Tam?
02:17:53.481 --> 02:17:53.961
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you know?
02:17:54.101 --> 02:17:54.542
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
02:17:54.862 --> 02:17:55.923
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to die here, Tam.
02:17:56.223 --> 02:17:57.704
[SPEAKER_02]: What is Tim Drake's big secret?
02:17:57.845 --> 02:17:58.145
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
02:17:58.585 --> 02:17:58.925
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't.
02:17:59.046 --> 02:17:59.986
[SPEAKER_02]: If you tell me, I can help.
02:18:00.387 --> 02:18:01.548
[SPEAKER_02]: He's weird.
02:18:01.888 --> 02:18:02.208
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me.
02:18:02.469 --> 02:18:03.209
[SPEAKER_02]: We're engaged.
02:18:03.650 --> 02:18:03.890
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
02:18:04.310 --> 02:18:04.430
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
02:18:05.811 --> 02:18:30.572
[SPEAKER_01]: And she thinks firstly the popped into my head and then another ninja comes out and nowhere and holds a knife up to Vicki's throat and it's just damn panics because in her head she's like I actually do know that he is a superhero and if she pushes me too far like I'm gonna let that's I can't let that slip so she lies and she's like we're engaged and So then the ninja holds a knife up to Vicki Ville's throat and then is immediately hit the face with a fat ring back of the heads here
02:18:32.240 --> 02:18:34.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Steph, Steph is like, is everybody okay?
02:18:34.602 --> 02:18:38.204
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, did I hear what she said a minute ago correctly, Miss?
02:18:38.524 --> 02:18:51.753
[SPEAKER_02]: The funniest thing about this is that Tim, it was just, I don't know if it's in this or if it's in her book, where Tim is like openly trying to get back with Stephanie.
02:18:52.574 --> 02:18:58.578
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this issue where the previous issue where he was saying, it might have been the last issue where he was like saying, oh, I'm
02:18:59.558 --> 02:19:25.820
[SPEAKER_01]: can you will you help me and he's like maybe we could be partners again like he was trying it wasn't about like let's get back together true but like he's turning over new leaf she's really impressed she's just kind of like maybe I should get back together with my ex and then she shows up and this bitch is like I'm engaged to Tim Drake and she's like backborn I think it's in an issue of Steph's book where Tim's like putting his hand on her face and telling her how proud of her he is and she's like oh we cannot do this
02:19:28.494 --> 02:19:29.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right.
02:19:29.034 --> 02:19:29.375
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
02:19:29.395 --> 02:19:30.415
[SPEAKER_01]: That does happen in her book.
02:19:30.475 --> 02:19:34.878
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is a good moment for her, too, because she's like, actually, I'm over you.
02:19:34.898 --> 02:19:34.978
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:19:35.919 --> 02:19:36.979
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a good realization.
02:19:36.999 --> 02:19:39.961
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, actually, I don't need to be with you to think I'm a good hero.
02:19:40.021 --> 02:19:42.263
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming in my own and I'm like, do my own thing and I'm
02:19:43.146 --> 02:19:44.247
[SPEAKER_01]: figure in my own shit out.
02:19:44.307 --> 02:19:45.609
[SPEAKER_01]: And that, that is wonderful.
02:19:45.729 --> 02:19:46.470
[SPEAKER_01]: I should really like that.
02:19:46.550 --> 02:19:49.193
[SPEAKER_01]: But in this, that's not where she is in this moment in this moment.
02:19:49.213 --> 02:19:52.057
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, my ex-boyfriend's like turning over a new leap.
02:19:52.077 --> 02:19:54.440
[SPEAKER_01]: He's apologizing to me in ways that he's never apologised before.
02:19:54.480 --> 02:19:55.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this will work out.
02:19:55.321 --> 02:19:57.523
[SPEAKER_01]: If we can get back together, he's engaged.
02:19:57.764 --> 02:19:58.705
[SPEAKER_02]: You did what?
02:19:59.846 --> 02:20:00.447
[SPEAKER_03]: You what?
02:20:01.960 --> 02:20:02.600
[SPEAKER_01]: It gaged.
02:20:03.641 --> 02:20:05.922
[SPEAKER_01]: It's down to come back and Jamie is pissed off.
02:20:05.942 --> 02:20:09.103
[SPEAKER_01]: Jamie is basically doing the, he's like the, let me out of, let me out of it.
02:20:09.123 --> 02:20:09.984
[SPEAKER_02]: Hold me back, hold me back.
02:20:12.085 --> 02:20:16.167
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Tim is like putting together, he's like, what is it that race is wants me to see?
02:20:16.707 --> 02:20:18.228
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dick's like, hey, will you talk to me?
02:20:18.288 --> 02:20:19.348
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to give me something here.
02:20:19.448 --> 02:20:22.390
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, you're a target, so is Robin, but right now I have to get to Lucius Fox.
02:20:23.130 --> 02:20:25.231
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, they have to stop this.
02:20:25.391 --> 02:20:26.272
[SPEAKER_02]: You sound like you're crazy.
02:20:26.292 --> 02:20:26.692
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to explain.
02:20:26.712 --> 02:20:27.712
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I don't have time.
02:20:28.173 --> 02:20:30.214
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, Batman, and you should trust me.
02:20:31.474 --> 02:20:33.235
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, what can I do to help?
02:20:34.276 --> 02:20:37.137
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a beat though where like you don't know if that man is gonna grace.
02:20:37.177 --> 02:20:42.159
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like because this is also the first time that like Dick has actually trusted him because up until now.
02:20:42.559 --> 02:20:44.300
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim has been acting like a crazy person.
02:20:45.161 --> 02:20:53.064
[SPEAKER_01]: But also up until now Tim has been like will you fucking trust me and Dick is like no we should talk about the fact that Bruce is dead and Tim is like my god shot up.
02:20:54.165 --> 02:20:58.907
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean and to be fair from Dick's perspective, hey my little brother is acting super crazy after our dad died.
02:20:59.992 --> 02:21:07.955
[SPEAKER_01]: from everyone, that's why this is such a tragedy, is that from everyone's perspective, other than Tim, he's losing it.
02:21:08.495 --> 02:21:22.401
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the straw that's breaking the camel's back, and he's not hit the, he's in the denial phase of grief, like he, but he's not, he's correct, it's crazy.
02:21:22.681 --> 02:21:25.262
[SPEAKER_02]: So Tim or Dick's like, what can I do to help?
02:21:25.302 --> 02:21:28.383
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, you stay alive, keep Robin alive, and I'll call you with the details.
02:21:31.652 --> 02:21:45.190
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's this funny moment where he asks prudence our name and he says do you have a name girl and Damian goes dead girl prudence and keep your healthy bastard away from me
02:21:48.951 --> 02:21:53.714
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love there's there's a running joke because if you turn the page then the next thing Batman says is prudent, huh?
02:21:53.954 --> 02:21:56.336
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think your parents may have missed the mark on that one.
02:21:56.677 --> 02:22:06.384
[SPEAKER_01]: That is this second or third time in this book that's been said like that's I think that's what Tim learned what he she introduces herself as prou and he's thinking to himself he's like prou short for prudence.
02:22:06.724 --> 02:22:07.305
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh gosh.
02:22:07.525 --> 02:22:09.467
[SPEAKER_01]: I think his parents were wrong on that.
02:22:11.828 --> 02:22:14.591
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very tip it's very Stephen Barbra.
02:22:15.912 --> 02:22:16.152
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
02:22:17.815 --> 02:22:19.876
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's a good, it's a good beat.
02:22:20.656 --> 02:22:25.819
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we turn the page and we see that there's an assassin that has Damian in the scope of a sniper rifle.
02:22:26.879 --> 02:22:35.943
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we see all the people that are the targets and that's Damian Dick Barbara Alfred Julie Madison, who is a hilariously deep cut.
02:22:37.204 --> 02:22:39.285
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I believe she's the first love.
02:22:39.305 --> 02:22:44.067
[SPEAKER_02]: The first love because she's Bruce's original love interest from the thirties.
02:22:45.224 --> 02:22:45.564
[SPEAKER_01]: crazy.
02:22:45.944 --> 02:22:47.905
[SPEAKER_01]: She, by the way, has nothing to do with any of this.
02:22:47.925 --> 02:22:48.865
[SPEAKER_01]: She's just in a bubble bath.
02:22:48.985 --> 02:22:49.125
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:22:49.145 --> 02:22:49.626
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hanging out.
02:22:49.646 --> 02:22:50.606
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not looking at it through a window.
02:22:50.926 --> 02:22:51.286
[SPEAKER_01]: Tanging there.
02:22:51.306 --> 02:22:51.966
[SPEAKER_01]: She's in a bubble bath.
02:22:52.807 --> 02:22:53.547
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Stephanie.
02:22:53.567 --> 02:22:53.787
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
02:22:53.807 --> 02:22:54.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
02:22:54.067 --> 02:22:55.428
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Tim.
02:22:55.768 --> 02:22:56.788
[SPEAKER_02]: Or no, Tim's not on the list.
02:22:56.828 --> 02:22:57.588
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Stephanie and Vicki.
02:22:57.729 --> 02:23:00.890
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not on the list because they confirm that earlier.
02:23:01.090 --> 02:23:03.991
[SPEAKER_02]: Lucius Salina and Commissioner Gordon.
02:23:09.169 --> 02:23:37.131
[SPEAKER_01]: racist like go wait for me as we discussed the pieces are all in place what now you ask that is entirely up to young Timothy Drake also racial school is in a high-rise office building that is like directly across from the gigantic Wayne corporate enterprises building like he could see it he's looking out of his big window also he's never turning his lights on he's always in the dark so we can look out the city skyline and he's just looking at the Wayne building
02:23:38.052 --> 02:23:38.512
[SPEAKER_01]: See you then.
02:23:39.553 --> 02:23:42.716
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Rash, you've got too much money to be worried about your light bill.
02:23:43.976 --> 02:23:45.578
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's worried about it.
02:23:45.598 --> 02:23:46.618
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he doesn't want the glare.
02:23:46.638 --> 02:23:47.719
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he wants to be able to look out.
02:23:48.280 --> 02:23:48.900
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a pervert.
02:23:48.920 --> 02:23:52.083
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes to want the little with it.
02:23:52.103 --> 02:23:54.424
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, based on how this next issue ends.
02:23:55.425 --> 02:23:55.785
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:23:57.226 --> 02:23:57.527
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:23:58.067 --> 02:23:59.708
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so issued to us.
02:23:59.748 --> 02:24:01.910
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been doing sex crimes for like six hundred years.
02:24:01.990 --> 02:24:04.492
[SPEAKER_02]: Before we knew what crimes were.
02:24:05.356 --> 02:24:05.796
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
02:24:06.676 --> 02:24:08.137
[SPEAKER_01]: The cover of Issue Twelve.
02:24:09.177 --> 02:24:18.138
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'll say Issue Twelve has a very sick cover, which is the Batman logo drawn in blood and dripping.
02:24:19.099 --> 02:24:24.820
[SPEAKER_02]: Rage holding a sword up and holding Tim with the other arm about to stab him to death.
02:24:26.040 --> 02:24:26.860
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good.
02:24:28.360 --> 02:24:29.400
[SPEAKER_02]: Rage gives the kill order.
02:24:30.301 --> 02:24:31.261
[SPEAKER_02]: He says kill them all.
02:24:31.401 --> 02:24:31.881
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that clear?
02:24:32.724 --> 02:24:33.965
[SPEAKER_02]: that that respond.
02:24:34.885 --> 02:24:36.186
[SPEAKER_02]: All operatives respond.
02:24:37.706 --> 02:24:38.507
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tim is behind him.
02:24:38.707 --> 02:24:39.247
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, Rish.
02:24:40.728 --> 02:24:43.509
[SPEAKER_01]: In the shadows, I'll creep you like it's good.
02:24:43.629 --> 02:24:45.831
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he looks like Batman here, which is awesome.
02:24:46.171 --> 02:24:46.651
[SPEAKER_01]: He does.
02:24:46.811 --> 02:24:47.391
[SPEAKER_01]: He does.
02:24:47.571 --> 02:24:49.632
[SPEAKER_02]: Your game is over because I'm ending it.
02:24:50.873 --> 02:24:51.834
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm impressed, Timothy.
02:24:52.134 --> 02:24:54.155
[SPEAKER_02]: You found me, but was it worth it?
02:24:55.215 --> 02:24:57.016
[SPEAKER_02]: Rish, I'll Google saw Batman as someone worthy.
02:24:57.236 --> 02:24:58.377
[SPEAKER_02]: He saw him as something of an air.
02:24:59.037 --> 02:25:01.159
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's never stopped race from trying to kill him.
02:25:01.940 --> 02:25:07.304
[SPEAKER_02]: Was coming here to foolishly confront me with sacrificing the lives of all those your mentor held dear?
02:25:07.985 --> 02:25:11.447
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if the more accomplished targets survive, the others will die.
02:25:12.088 --> 02:25:13.489
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it worth the compromise?
02:25:14.430 --> 02:25:20.135
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, race is targeting Batman's world, his family, his loved ones, all in retaliation for my actions he says.
02:25:21.016 --> 02:25:22.156
[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's where you're wrong.
02:25:22.417 --> 02:25:23.517
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm done compromising.
02:25:23.937 --> 02:25:24.297
[SPEAKER_02]: Report.
02:25:25.358 --> 02:25:26.398
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to walk you talking.
02:25:26.438 --> 02:25:26.738
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:25:28.119 --> 02:25:30.359
[SPEAKER_02]: And Connor goes, hey, Ray, she has a gun.
02:25:32.580 --> 02:25:34.381
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm from anywhere at this blind, by the way.
02:25:34.581 --> 02:25:35.101
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice drive.
02:25:35.261 --> 02:25:40.823
[SPEAKER_01]: And you turn the page and it's super boy is there holding a ninja and Alfred's adjusting his drive.
02:25:42.864 --> 02:25:43.464
[SPEAKER_01]: Totally fine.
02:25:44.164 --> 02:25:46.525
[SPEAKER_01]: But I love Connor in this.
02:25:46.565 --> 02:25:48.366
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, hey, hey, these follow.
02:25:50.052 --> 02:25:53.356
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love the people that they sent in for this whole book.
02:25:54.317 --> 02:26:01.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but like the whole book, everyone, even when Tim was being a dick, everyone was like, listen, if you call me for help, I will fucking be there.
02:26:01.964 --> 02:26:02.165
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
02:26:02.285 --> 02:26:03.486
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, I need you.
02:26:04.127 --> 02:26:05.148
[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's actually like,
02:26:05.868 --> 02:26:06.328
[SPEAKER_01]: They need you.
02:26:06.408 --> 02:26:09.230
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you be here and low and behold who shows up?
02:26:09.750 --> 02:26:11.091
[SPEAKER_01]: But first we got Superboy.
02:26:11.431 --> 02:26:16.454
[SPEAKER_02]: Then Bart runs into Save Selena and he says Selena Kyle is super fine.
02:26:16.554 --> 02:26:18.656
[SPEAKER_02]: This might be the best day of my life.
02:26:19.596 --> 02:26:24.399
[SPEAKER_02]: Man Hunter, not Martian Man Hunter, the man hunter, a different character.
02:26:24.419 --> 02:26:26.901
[SPEAKER_02]: It helped Commissioner Gordon.
02:26:28.722 --> 02:26:32.544
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephanie helped Vicki and Tam and she's like, Vicki Vale is safe and sound.
02:26:32.764 --> 02:26:33.625
[SPEAKER_02]: So am I, by the way.
02:26:34.766 --> 02:26:36.147
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, huntress shot via.
02:26:36.168 --> 02:26:36.828
[SPEAKER_02]: I love her.
02:26:37.589 --> 02:26:40.872
[SPEAKER_02]: Undershot and assassin through the shoulder with an arrow.
02:26:41.633 --> 02:26:42.373
[SPEAKER_01]: Both shoulders.
02:26:42.554 --> 02:26:45.497
[SPEAKER_01]: He is pinned to the wall and she says, Lucius Fox is alive.
02:26:45.617 --> 02:26:47.959
[SPEAKER_01]: The two assassins are more or less alive.
02:26:48.579 --> 02:26:49.220
[SPEAKER_02]: Manbat.
02:26:49.701 --> 02:26:51.963
[SPEAKER_02]: The Madison girl is alive.
02:26:53.032 --> 02:26:54.934
[SPEAKER_01]: And she is freaking out.
02:26:54.954 --> 02:26:55.855
[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you say that?
02:26:56.876 --> 02:26:59.798
[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you say man back to the girl who is not a superhero?
02:27:00.098 --> 02:27:04.422
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you have not said man back to Alfred and said honors.
02:27:07.383 --> 02:27:21.469
[SPEAKER_01]: This girl was just taking a bubble bath and now man that is in her bathroom Barbara handle these ninjas by herself before Cassie gets there.
02:27:21.489 --> 02:27:31.633
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like Barbara Gordon is well, she kind of saved herself and then Damian is insulted that they said ninjas to deal with Batman really grandfather ninja.
02:27:31.993 --> 02:27:32.754
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm insulted
02:27:34.651 --> 02:27:35.452
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's so mad.
02:27:35.652 --> 02:27:36.612
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so mad.
02:27:36.852 --> 02:27:37.293
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so mad.
02:27:37.333 --> 02:27:38.594
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, you know I've got it in this.
02:27:38.734 --> 02:27:39.094
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
02:27:39.174 --> 02:27:41.175
[SPEAKER_02]: I used to beat these guys as a baby.
02:27:41.195 --> 02:27:44.897
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been training against them from the womb.
02:27:45.198 --> 02:27:49.180
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're talking about, uh, Vrishko's you.
02:27:49.900 --> 02:27:51.061
[SPEAKER_02]: What have you done?
02:27:51.081 --> 02:27:55.043
[SPEAKER_02]: Now realize that you were playing with me, but this is me refusing to play.
02:27:55.544 --> 02:27:59.386
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you think I was going to run around the city desperately trying to save everyone by myself?
02:27:59.886 --> 02:28:00.807
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not Batman.
02:28:00.867 --> 02:28:01.447
[SPEAKER_02]: I have friends.
02:28:03.465 --> 02:28:18.915
[SPEAKER_01]: that this is the moment that this book really clicked for me when I first read it and like really some I feel like this is like the thesis of the character is like as sad boy as he is as depressed as he is as much like Batman as he is he is it Batman because
02:28:20.377 --> 02:28:44.960
[SPEAKER_01]: even goes back to like when he introduced himself to Bruce the very first time when he was when he like forced himself into the whole Batman situation he showed up not because he wanted to be Robin but because he saw that Batman wasn't reaching out to his support system and he was going through it and he's like Batman needs a Robin you should go the friend you should go like make nice with Dick Grayson and Dick Grayson was like fuck no I'm mad at my dad right now I'm in New York City living it up
02:28:46.078 --> 02:28:50.580
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm fucking my hot space girlfriend and I'm having a good time.
02:28:50.600 --> 02:28:52.340
[SPEAKER_02]: I got this cool ass costume on.
02:28:52.860 --> 02:28:54.281
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going out and I'm porting.
02:28:55.361 --> 02:28:57.142
[SPEAKER_01]: My girlfriend is taller than me.
02:28:59.963 --> 02:29:02.044
[SPEAKER_02]: I get this fucking Olympian in my room.
02:29:02.064 --> 02:29:04.105
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not fucking going home.
02:29:04.345 --> 02:29:05.085
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you see her?
02:29:06.122 --> 02:29:06.963
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not coming back.
02:29:07.383 --> 02:29:10.786
[SPEAKER_01]: Also mad at my dad and then Tim is like, I guess I'll be Robin fine.
02:29:10.826 --> 02:29:15.991
[SPEAKER_01]: But like his initial thing is always trying to urge Batman to like reach for his connections.
02:29:16.511 --> 02:29:17.172
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his whole thing.
02:29:17.292 --> 02:29:18.233
[SPEAKER_01]: It's his whole stick.
02:29:18.753 --> 02:29:23.938
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now he's finally like, Rish, did you think I wouldn't call people?
02:29:24.588 --> 02:29:26.490
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to be in twelve places at once.
02:29:26.590 --> 02:29:29.393
[SPEAKER_02]: I have X. Don't you know who I think I am?
02:29:29.413 --> 02:29:36.279
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he says, did you think that when I had access to your systems, I wouldn't use it to find you?
02:29:36.679 --> 02:29:40.102
[SPEAKER_02]: I memorized every shell company and facade the League of Zasans has.
02:29:40.483 --> 02:29:43.486
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you think I wouldn't look up League real estate, holdings, and Gotham?
02:29:43.726 --> 02:29:46.068
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been checking them out since before I even got back.
02:29:46.648 --> 02:29:48.210
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had your assassins taken down.
02:29:48.410 --> 02:29:49.291
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's your turn.
02:29:50.425 --> 02:29:51.746
[SPEAKER_02]: And racially looks at him.
02:29:52.727 --> 02:29:54.128
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim watches him.
02:29:55.049 --> 02:29:57.551
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like he's waiting like is expecting something else.
02:29:58.272 --> 02:29:59.653
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't give it give it to him.
02:29:59.893 --> 02:30:00.273
[SPEAKER_02]: Not yet.
02:30:00.754 --> 02:30:03.336
[SPEAKER_02]: Racie takes his fucking cloak off pulls out a sword.
02:30:03.356 --> 02:30:08.000
[SPEAKER_02]: How you know his real cloak discarded sword out.
02:30:08.220 --> 02:30:11.403
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a cool as like I love when they give racially
02:30:12.667 --> 02:30:13.167
[SPEAKER_01]: Simitar.
02:30:13.627 --> 02:30:17.389
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, Simitar's like when they're like, hey, this dude is, this dude is Asian.
02:30:17.429 --> 02:30:21.671
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's give him some like reminds you that this dude is an Arab, like.
02:30:22.432 --> 02:30:22.612
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:30:23.812 --> 02:30:24.272
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
02:30:24.633 --> 02:30:28.574
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this, this dude's from like, he probably has an empire.
02:30:28.754 --> 02:30:32.976
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, like he, he probably grew up with this exact sword in his hand.
02:30:34.397 --> 02:30:35.638
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
02:30:36.118 --> 02:30:40.600
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, Tim thinks with that I've got racial cool exactly where I want him.
02:30:41.234 --> 02:30:45.256
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, having him exactly where I want, it means there's a very real chance that I'm going to die tonight.
02:30:46.217 --> 02:30:46.837
[SPEAKER_02]: We think.
02:30:46.917 --> 02:30:48.298
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where we return.
02:30:48.478 --> 02:30:54.942
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where we return to the Tim Drake is like, I have a plan that will fix this situation.
02:30:55.282 --> 02:31:01.025
[SPEAKER_01]: There isn't non-zero chance that plan ends in me dying, and that does not change whether or not I've do it the plan.
02:31:01.286 --> 02:31:04.788
[SPEAKER_01]: This is him talking to his future self and holding a gun on to his own head.
02:31:04.848 --> 02:31:05.488
[SPEAKER_01]: This is him.
02:31:05.508 --> 02:31:08.650
[SPEAKER_02]: Planning all day to poison Shiva.
02:31:10.736 --> 02:31:15.199
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is this is him fighting Lady Shiva and like not dying miraculously.
02:31:15.279 --> 02:31:20.384
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is this is him doing crazy shit and just being like, I might die.
02:31:20.464 --> 02:31:20.884
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
02:31:20.904 --> 02:31:22.666
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that I made my piece with that?
02:31:23.346 --> 02:31:25.568
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw my dead parents like yesterday.
02:31:25.708 --> 02:31:26.168
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
02:31:27.169 --> 02:31:27.369
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:31:27.409 --> 02:31:28.851
[SPEAKER_01]: Black is night happened like right before this.
02:31:28.871 --> 02:31:29.291
[SPEAKER_01]: Right before this.
02:31:29.331 --> 02:31:29.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Right before this.
02:31:29.831 --> 02:31:30.312
[SPEAKER_02]: Right before this.
02:31:31.113 --> 02:31:31.653
[SPEAKER_01]: Right before this.
02:31:31.673 --> 02:31:34.896
[SPEAKER_01]: They mentioned it in some of the earlier issues and that what he.
02:31:34.996 --> 02:31:37.438
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his Jack Drake was there.
02:31:38.539 --> 02:31:39.040
[SPEAKER_01]: talking to him.
02:31:39.600 --> 02:31:40.040
[SPEAKER_01]: Hang it out.
02:31:40.060 --> 02:31:43.523
[SPEAKER_01]: I also didn't.
02:31:43.543 --> 02:31:43.703
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
02:31:43.743 --> 02:31:46.906
[SPEAKER_01]: He also saw that like the free animated corpse captain who were I. I think.
02:31:47.146 --> 02:31:48.387
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
02:31:48.547 --> 02:31:50.268
[SPEAKER_02]: Dick saw his parents doing the trapeze again.
02:31:51.509 --> 02:31:52.790
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
02:31:52.810 --> 02:31:54.612
[SPEAKER_01]: Blackness night is actually a really good book.
02:31:55.152 --> 02:31:55.853
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that it like.
02:31:56.537 --> 02:32:26.283
[SPEAKER_01]: came out at a time where zombies were cool and the grim dark thing was super cool, but like actually black as night is really fantastic and I think it's because it had like sixty five issues of incredible Jeff John's green lantern run presenting it and then there are millions of times you read the Jeff John's green lantern run and you read about the rainbow lantern core and they introduce each one one by one and it's a really good book and then black as night is like the capstone of it and the tie ends are really good because they're basically like we're just going to pull the trauma of every
02:32:26.903 --> 02:32:49.910
[SPEAKER_02]: Donna Troy holds the solidified corpse of her dead baby who they have read content have been alive during that by the way alive during what during they they recognized so that uh Granny goodness actually took her son Jesus Christ Leave Donna Troy alone that
02:32:52.640 --> 02:32:56.843
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like so many bad things always happen to her specifically in a way that's just brutal.
02:32:57.003 --> 02:32:58.384
[SPEAKER_01]: She never gets a win.
02:32:58.404 --> 02:32:59.665
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
02:33:00.086 --> 02:33:01.827
[SPEAKER_01]: But that titan's book rolled.
02:33:02.788 --> 02:33:04.249
[SPEAKER_01]: The titan's book, but it's night.
02:33:05.069 --> 02:33:08.312
[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is when, at this point, there's a teen titan's book and there's also a titan's book.
02:33:08.792 --> 02:33:09.032
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
02:33:09.393 --> 02:33:10.133
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were different.
02:33:10.153 --> 02:33:12.135
[SPEAKER_01]: And the titan's book itself was not great.
02:33:12.235 --> 02:33:15.817
[SPEAKER_01]: But the blackest night, time, really, really rocked.
02:33:16.878 --> 02:33:17.979
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there was a zombie baby.
02:33:18.279 --> 02:33:18.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:33:19.700 --> 02:33:19.880
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:33:19.960 --> 02:33:20.321
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:33:20.341 --> 02:33:21.682
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a canvas like, I'm getting back.
02:33:22.808 --> 02:33:24.709
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's a flash, seven, ninety nine.
02:33:24.769 --> 02:33:31.514
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, granny goodness had kidnapped him and replaced him, I guess, with some other child.
02:33:32.715 --> 02:33:38.039
[SPEAKER_02]: And Granny tells Robert and the other boys that they were taken, that they were orphans.
02:33:38.840 --> 02:33:44.904
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she's starting up her own private army separate from dark side.
02:33:48.100 --> 02:33:50.642
[SPEAKER_01]: The new God stuff.
02:33:51.582 --> 02:33:53.103
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't ask me what's going on over there.
02:33:53.183 --> 02:33:53.564
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
02:33:53.584 --> 02:33:55.345
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I'm gonna be honest.
02:33:55.725 --> 02:33:56.226
[SPEAKER_01]: I, okay.
02:33:56.566 --> 02:33:58.087
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't ask me what to deal with with Orion.
02:33:58.107 --> 02:33:58.867
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
02:33:58.887 --> 02:34:00.208
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it.
02:34:00.268 --> 02:34:01.729
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I, I know.
02:34:05.437 --> 02:34:18.347
[SPEAKER_01]: I know the dark side is actually very scary mother fucker and I like what he specifically shows up not anybody else like I like him as a villain usually I think he's good as like a cosmic kind of fantasy person but a little more scary in my opinion.
02:34:19.188 --> 02:34:27.435
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that I want big burden call me and I know that and this is my most controversial take actually.
02:34:27.455 --> 02:34:30.017
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Tom King is a writer.
02:34:30.527 --> 02:34:31.588
[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people hate him.
02:34:31.848 --> 02:34:33.210
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of I know he's.
02:34:33.690 --> 02:34:40.797
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like like a lot of people don't like his Batman because of his characterization of Selena, but I'm like, look, Selena's fucking weird.
02:34:40.837 --> 02:34:42.659
[SPEAKER_02]: She lives and she's living Gotham her whole life.
02:34:42.799 --> 02:34:43.339
[SPEAKER_02]: She's weird.
02:34:44.380 --> 02:34:47.504
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I like this Batman.
02:34:47.604 --> 02:34:48.705
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this writing style with it.
02:34:48.745 --> 02:34:52.168
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked what he did with Bane, but also I really like this Mr. Miracle.
02:34:53.069 --> 02:34:53.890
[SPEAKER_01]: His Mr. Miracle.
02:34:54.508 --> 02:35:14.613
[SPEAKER_01]: rules as like a twelve the thing okay in my opinion the thing about Tom King is that he works better when you can strain them to twelve issues when you yes when you allow him to structure out the book um the way he did with his Batman what was like look which is what he he made twelve issue arcs he was like I'm good at twelve issues I'm just going to do a series of twelve issue arcs and all one arc
02:35:15.583 --> 02:35:18.365
[SPEAKER_02]: in totality, but it's all these twelve issue pieces filled up.
02:35:18.385 --> 02:35:21.166
[SPEAKER_01]: You can sit down and read the more of jokes and riddles.
02:35:21.306 --> 02:35:21.486
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:35:21.746 --> 02:35:23.027
[SPEAKER_01]: And like that's its own tip.
02:35:23.107 --> 02:35:24.708
[SPEAKER_01]: In the way the caution is known.
02:35:26.046 --> 02:35:33.633
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, but I really like his Mr. Miracle, but I don't know what's going on with the new guns that I didn't even give in time other than Big Bird at Callway.
02:35:33.653 --> 02:35:35.795
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, true, and that's pretty true.
02:35:38.237 --> 02:35:42.281
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Tim's like, we think Race is the hundreds of years old.
02:35:42.621 --> 02:35:48.106
[SPEAKER_02]: He, the idea that I can fight him and beat him is arrogant.
02:35:48.517 --> 02:36:13.394
[SPEAKER_02]: ludicrous of course that's why I was sure he'd go for it he couldn't say no to such enough front to his honor but it's everything I can do here to just survive and everything I've got isn't enough I just have to hold out race dislocation shoulder slash across the chest yeah him head butts the shit out of him like he had butts him so hard that rashes blood is on the back of his cow oh it is
02:36:15.652 --> 02:36:19.575
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, I'm not, I'm not fighting to win because I've already done that.
02:36:20.255 --> 02:36:22.697
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, that all, is that all you've got?
02:36:23.477 --> 02:36:24.638
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing, Timothy?
02:36:25.078 --> 02:36:25.779
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it obvious?
02:36:26.539 --> 02:36:28.601
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm giving Lucius Fox enough time to file paperwork.
02:36:29.742 --> 02:36:31.843
[SPEAKER_02]: Two things happened today, Raysh.
02:36:32.564 --> 02:36:35.325
[SPEAKER_02]: The first is that I became an impantimate, emancipated minor.
02:36:35.385 --> 02:36:37.027
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the first time they mentioned the two and seventeen.
02:36:37.387 --> 02:36:38.528
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's fucking nuts.
02:36:39.409 --> 02:36:51.615
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is when he's, yeah, he's not so petite, but they have to immediately be like, uh, yeah, my, maybe that was like a note from editorial, maybe he was writing this as though he was like actually like, twenty two or something.
02:36:51.635 --> 02:36:51.735
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:36:51.755 --> 02:36:54.837
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they're like, um, this kid can't own a company.
02:36:54.957 --> 02:36:56.718
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a minor and he's like,
02:36:57.954 --> 02:36:59.716
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm picture he used to be like he is.
02:37:00.236 --> 02:37:01.037
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really okay.
02:37:01.057 --> 02:37:02.558
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what I've been writing.
02:37:02.598 --> 02:37:05.981
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like he's doing the math the same way I did he said no he's a team he was sixteen here.
02:37:06.001 --> 02:37:06.221
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:37:06.682 --> 02:37:08.063
[SPEAKER_02]: You do a year pass.
02:37:09.004 --> 02:37:12.267
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's an emancipated minor which means congratulations to basically indulge.
02:37:12.847 --> 02:37:18.993
[SPEAKER_02]: He says the second is that as of right about now I'm also the controlling shareholder of Wayne Enterprises.
02:37:20.674 --> 02:37:24.877
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, you, I'm in charge of Bruce Wayne's legacy now, not Hush.
02:37:25.658 --> 02:37:26.959
[SPEAKER_02]: Bruce knew something was coming.
02:37:27.119 --> 02:37:28.760
[SPEAKER_02]: He knew that he wasn't always going to be around.
02:37:28.860 --> 02:37:30.061
[SPEAKER_02]: So he made up a will.
02:37:30.582 --> 02:37:38.468
[SPEAKER_02]: He had paperwork drawn up to transfer shares in the company as well as his position as CEO to me if something should happen.
02:37:39.208 --> 02:37:43.732
[SPEAKER_02]: And he gave Lucius full authority to make that, make that happen if need be.
02:37:44.522 --> 02:37:47.124
[SPEAKER_02]: and it goes without saying that Lucius saw a need.
02:37:47.544 --> 02:37:52.188
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was the thing that Lucius when Hush started to throw in the money where he said, ah, okay.
02:37:52.989 --> 02:37:53.589
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to put that.
02:37:53.609 --> 02:37:56.352
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like, I need to miss you.
02:37:56.932 --> 02:38:00.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and for this is the first time this is revealed.
02:38:00.375 --> 02:38:04.998
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but this is why Lucius even sent Tam after him and that, like, this is the whole plot.
02:38:05.099 --> 02:38:10.343
[SPEAKER_01]: And like we know that that's what Rash was like going after, but it's the first time that we understand that that's what Lucius is doing.
02:38:11.501 --> 02:38:30.441
[SPEAKER_02]: god Lucius this panel Lucius is so crazy he looks like he's he looks like Louis Faracon he looks like he's he looks like he's he looks like he's part of the nation is love it's not great he's got his little bow ties little glasses
02:38:34.073 --> 02:38:37.574
[SPEAKER_02]: So your target day from day one was Wayne Enterprise is not the people.
02:38:37.834 --> 02:38:39.354
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not a blunt instrument, Raish.
02:38:39.514 --> 02:38:41.555
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd never attacked us like this before.
02:38:42.035 --> 02:38:42.715
[SPEAKER_02]: So why now?
02:38:43.535 --> 02:38:45.356
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Hush made it so easy.
02:38:45.956 --> 02:38:49.357
[SPEAKER_02]: He would have signed over everything to the league of assassins with simple threat.
02:38:49.657 --> 02:38:51.137
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he knows by now that he can't.
02:38:51.697 --> 02:38:55.758
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if you kill me now, I've made sure he won't be able to transfer anything to you.
02:38:56.359 --> 02:38:57.259
[SPEAKER_02]: You've lost, Raish.
02:38:58.259 --> 02:39:00.119
[SPEAKER_01]: And he... And then the best part.
02:39:01.260 --> 02:39:01.820
[SPEAKER_01]: Come with me.
02:39:03.501 --> 02:39:08.863
[SPEAKER_02]: Well done detective and then he kicks him hard his fuck through this window.
02:39:09.444 --> 02:39:11.104
[SPEAKER_01]: Look a plate glass window.
02:39:11.124 --> 02:39:17.868
[SPEAKER_01]: He kicks him on the sword injury on his abdomen like foot directly over the injury.
02:39:18.288 --> 02:39:20.049
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, his shoulder is still dislocated.
02:39:21.770 --> 02:39:28.393
[SPEAKER_01]: The shatters with a crash and like he just kicks that man and he's
02:39:29.310 --> 02:39:30.251
[SPEAKER_01]: Being kicked out of a skyscraper.
02:39:30.271 --> 02:39:30.431
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:39:30.451 --> 02:39:31.472
[SPEAKER_01]: He's very tall.
02:39:31.853 --> 02:39:32.593
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus, I did it.
02:39:33.234 --> 02:39:34.335
[SPEAKER_02]: I saved the people he loved.
02:39:35.196 --> 02:39:37.038
[SPEAKER_02]: I saved everything he worked so hard to build.
02:39:37.838 --> 02:39:38.679
[SPEAKER_02]: No compromises.
02:39:39.980 --> 02:39:40.821
[SPEAKER_02]: He won't say anything.
02:39:41.502 --> 02:39:42.082
[SPEAKER_02]: He never does.
02:39:42.823 --> 02:39:43.264
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know.
02:39:44.405 --> 02:39:45.606
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that Bruce will be proud of me.
02:39:46.812 --> 02:39:47.532
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a bad day.
02:39:47.793 --> 02:39:53.096
[SPEAKER_02]: And as Tim is falling out of the window, like a tear, the wind is forcing tears out of his eyes.
02:39:53.656 --> 02:39:55.617
[SPEAKER_01]: His eyes are rolling back at his hands.
02:39:55.718 --> 02:39:55.838
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:39:56.358 --> 02:39:59.360
[SPEAKER_02]: His eyes completely, completely bruised.
02:40:00.200 --> 02:40:01.761
[SPEAKER_01]: And his mask is half torn off.
02:40:01.781 --> 02:40:03.322
[SPEAKER_01]: So his hair is like flapping in the wind.
02:40:03.362 --> 02:40:04.503
[SPEAKER_01]: He's covered in glass.
02:40:04.903 --> 02:40:07.445
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he's black and out.
02:40:07.465 --> 02:40:08.285
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he blacks out.
02:40:08.325 --> 02:40:09.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he blacks out.
02:40:09.866 --> 02:40:11.087
[SPEAKER_01]: He's black on the last panel of his page.
02:40:11.698 --> 02:40:12.858
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, uh, brute.
02:40:12.898 --> 02:40:14.359
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is him accepting death.
02:40:14.619 --> 02:40:15.679
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, well, I'm going to die.
02:40:15.699 --> 02:40:17.660
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then Dick saves him.
02:40:18.860 --> 02:40:19.040
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
02:40:19.540 --> 02:40:21.401
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Tim wakes up in the cave.
02:40:22.381 --> 02:40:23.601
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone says he's waking up.
02:40:24.122 --> 02:40:24.682
[SPEAKER_02]: It deviates.
02:40:24.702 --> 02:40:25.282
[SPEAKER_02]: That's too bad.
02:40:25.302 --> 02:40:26.302
[SPEAKER_02]: You'll probably start talking.
02:40:26.542 --> 02:40:30.523
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, this is what it says.
02:40:30.663 --> 02:40:31.864
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you so horrible?
02:40:32.084 --> 02:40:33.244
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you start talking?
02:40:33.264 --> 02:40:34.304
[SPEAKER_01]: You're causing your costume.
02:40:35.625 --> 02:40:36.105
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim sits up.
02:40:39.395 --> 02:40:40.816
[SPEAKER_02]: And stuff's like, Tim, it's okay.
02:40:40.916 --> 02:40:41.436
[SPEAKER_02]: You're okay.
02:40:41.456 --> 02:40:42.257
[SPEAKER_02]: You're in the bad cave.
02:40:43.118 --> 02:40:48.101
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tim is like, and your team titans or riff raf is upstairs going through my father's kitchen drink.
02:40:48.681 --> 02:40:49.522
[SPEAKER_02]: Do something about it.
02:40:50.503 --> 02:40:57.467
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just picturing art like speed running through the way in kitchen eating every because you know Alfred keeps that shit.
02:40:57.527 --> 02:40:57.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop.
02:40:57.988 --> 02:40:59.949
[SPEAKER_01]: He's eating everything.
02:41:00.009 --> 02:41:02.951
[SPEAKER_02]: Parts metabolism is going into triple overdrive.
02:41:04.132 --> 02:41:04.412
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:41:04.936 --> 02:41:08.840
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Tim sees Alfred for the first time in months.
02:41:09.300 --> 02:41:11.442
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, hello, Master Tim of the year.
02:41:11.542 --> 02:41:14.245
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very pleased to see you again, although you could have said goodbye.
02:41:15.046 --> 02:41:16.888
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dick puts his hand on Tim's shoulder.
02:41:17.248 --> 02:41:18.329
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim, welcome home.
02:41:18.349 --> 02:41:20.491
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, race gone.
02:41:20.671 --> 02:41:21.792
[SPEAKER_02]: We slept the place and got nothing.
02:41:22.133 --> 02:41:23.274
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to tell me what that was all about?
02:41:23.994 --> 02:41:26.557
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little complicated, but I think we're good for a while.
02:41:27.300 --> 02:41:30.102
[SPEAKER_02]: So how'd you know, how'd you know I'd be there to save you?
02:41:30.903 --> 02:41:31.804
[SPEAKER_02]: You're my brother, Dick.
02:41:32.865 --> 02:41:33.966
[SPEAKER_02]: You'll always be there for me.
02:41:35.267 --> 02:41:37.629
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my, this is my favorite panel of the two of them.
02:41:38.129 --> 02:41:40.291
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's your, you're my brother.
02:41:40.751 --> 02:41:42.553
[SPEAKER_02]: You have been there for me since day one.
02:41:42.573 --> 02:41:44.494
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you've got me.
02:41:44.514 --> 02:41:46.636
[SPEAKER_02]: He just bruises alive.
02:41:46.836 --> 02:41:48.257
[SPEAKER_02]: He's lost in time and I can prove it.
02:41:48.377 --> 02:41:49.698
[SPEAKER_02]: I have evidence and there's something upstairs.
02:41:49.718 --> 02:41:50.399
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys need to see.
02:41:50.979 --> 02:41:53.081
[SPEAKER_02]: Dick offered, I know I'm not crazy.
02:41:53.522 --> 02:41:56.304
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that's hard to hear, but please believe in me.
02:41:58.071 --> 02:42:00.935
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dick and Alfred look at each other there they go.
02:42:00.955 --> 02:42:01.476
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
02:42:02.116 --> 02:42:03.057
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a lot to talk about.
02:42:03.078 --> 02:42:10.887
[SPEAKER_02]: And Davey and Gus and don't think you're a little powerful at the Wayne Enterprise is going to stand either.
02:42:11.228 --> 02:42:15.233
[SPEAKER_02]: I've already filed seven team motions with the board for a no-gotten's vote.
02:42:15.693 --> 02:42:16.214
[SPEAKER_02]: You are ten.
02:42:18.403 --> 02:42:19.464
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's literally ten.
02:42:19.484 --> 02:42:34.397
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing is they say Damien's age a lot because it's important that he's ten because once again, he's a twarp Yes, he's a little shit the I the whole point is like what if you met the meanest ten year old on the planet and also he had a sword and he'd really like to captivating and also he's your brother now
02:42:35.218 --> 02:42:38.840
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll see you're brother now, congratulations, brother by adoption.
02:42:38.860 --> 02:42:43.201
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's obsessed with his father's legacy, and that was Dad's gone.
02:42:44.042 --> 02:42:46.463
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're the only other one with the last name Wayne.
02:42:46.543 --> 02:42:48.384
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tim goes, that's great, Damian, thanks.
02:42:50.585 --> 02:42:53.646
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, Steph, you're glaring at me, are you okay?
02:42:53.686 --> 02:42:55.147
[SPEAKER_01]: And she says, I don't know.
02:42:55.447 --> 02:42:58.288
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anything that maybe just maybe you might have mentioned to me?
02:42:58.548 --> 02:43:02.730
[SPEAKER_01]: And you slip your mind as I was saving your life even after you yelled at me a lot.
02:43:04.126 --> 02:43:06.027
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jamie and Hans is a new favorite.
02:43:06.227 --> 02:43:08.328
[SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations, you dog.
02:43:08.348 --> 02:43:10.529
[SPEAKER_01]: And he looks as a new favorite.
02:43:10.869 --> 02:43:12.610
[SPEAKER_01]: And the headline says, engaged.
02:43:12.850 --> 02:43:15.412
[SPEAKER_01]: Team Wayne, air, team Drake to wed older women.
02:43:17.453 --> 02:43:18.653
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so fucking funny.
02:43:18.733 --> 02:43:21.895
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim and Tim are like a year and a half apart at most.
02:43:22.015 --> 02:43:23.235
[SPEAKER_01]: She's nineteen.
02:43:24.816 --> 02:43:25.837
[SPEAKER_01]: Not even twenty.
02:43:25.957 --> 02:43:27.737
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't legally drink.
02:43:28.298 --> 02:43:32.760
[SPEAKER_02]: These two are close enough at age that they wouldn't have been classmates.
02:43:33.997 --> 02:43:35.858
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because we're a bit of high school together.
02:43:35.999 --> 02:43:38.360
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephanie is eighteen nineteen here.
02:43:39.141 --> 02:43:40.802
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim and Steph dated for years.
02:43:42.383 --> 02:43:45.346
[SPEAKER_01]: Steph is so mad too because she doesn't know that he doesn't know.
02:43:45.526 --> 02:43:45.746
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:43:45.866 --> 02:43:48.688
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, listen, these people are turns around and goes, how long was I up for?
02:43:48.708 --> 02:43:53.632
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then Tim gets his own Tim.
02:43:53.892 --> 02:43:57.475
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the next page is Tim gets the better version of this costume.
02:43:58.593 --> 02:44:00.054
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's lighter looking.
02:44:00.194 --> 02:44:00.574
[SPEAKER_02]: It's lighter.
02:44:00.594 --> 02:44:01.214
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks lighter.
02:44:01.295 --> 02:44:04.256
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more streamlined because it's not like the tunic design.
02:44:04.476 --> 02:44:04.876
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all.
02:44:04.916 --> 02:44:06.157
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like it's all one piece.
02:44:07.137 --> 02:44:07.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:44:07.738 --> 02:44:09.318
[SPEAKER_01]: The pouches are better shaped.
02:44:09.499 --> 02:44:11.119
[SPEAKER_01]: He still has the cowl.
02:44:11.199 --> 02:44:15.521
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like to personally believe that this isn't made of leather anymore.
02:44:15.561 --> 02:44:18.983
[SPEAKER_01]: And it made out of a lighter material because of all the jokes about the.
02:44:19.784 --> 02:44:21.865
[SPEAKER_01]: I still can't believe that they have super boy make.
02:44:22.025 --> 02:44:25.006
[SPEAKER_01]: A like I can't very buying matching leather chat.
02:44:25.026 --> 02:44:26.067
[SPEAKER_01]: He said you buy in chat.
02:44:28.608 --> 02:44:29.228
[SPEAKER_01]: This is so fun.
02:44:29.248 --> 02:44:30.809
[SPEAKER_02]: Any change, perhaps?
02:44:32.430 --> 02:44:35.192
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you need a guy who doesn't put spikes on leather jackets?
02:44:35.212 --> 02:44:36.433
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I know what that is.
02:44:36.513 --> 02:44:36.993
[SPEAKER_01]: I know a guy.
02:44:37.273 --> 02:44:37.994
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a white guy.
02:44:38.014 --> 02:44:38.934
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know a couple guys.
02:44:39.595 --> 02:44:40.375
[SPEAKER_01]: I can fly you there.
02:44:40.816 --> 02:44:41.476
[SPEAKER_01]: We can hang out.
02:44:41.496 --> 02:44:42.757
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll hold you the whole time.
02:44:42.777 --> 02:44:43.758
[SPEAKER_01]: Say yes.
02:44:45.298 --> 02:44:48.300
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where things go from here, but this is me now.
02:44:48.400 --> 02:44:50.522
[SPEAKER_02]: No matter what I'm wearing, I'm my own man.
02:44:50.942 --> 02:44:51.562
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm red robbing.
02:44:52.983 --> 02:44:54.004
[SPEAKER_02]: I should probably go find Tim.
02:44:56.408 --> 02:44:58.470
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they had not spoken.
02:44:58.710 --> 02:44:59.992
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she announced this engagement.
02:45:00.172 --> 02:45:02.574
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and that was on the front page of the news.
02:45:02.614 --> 02:45:04.296
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say, Tim has been in a coma this whole time.
02:45:05.317 --> 02:45:20.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we get to racial goals, sex crimes, which is he's sitting shirtless in front of a roaring fiery brazier on the ground and he says, we exceeded expectations, the lead, the council, sorry, he exceeded expectations.
02:45:21.184 --> 02:45:33.495
[SPEAKER_01]: the league, the council, the men of death, even the plot against Wayne, Timothy Drake, passed each and every one of my tests, and then a woman's, I'm a serious woman's hand, the lands on his shoulder, and he says he will produce a worthy heir.
02:45:33.836 --> 02:45:35.197
[SPEAKER_01]: And some mystery hot lady.
02:45:36.258 --> 02:45:36.698
[SPEAKER_02]: Did he die?
02:45:36.718 --> 02:45:37.239
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he die?
02:45:37.939 --> 02:45:42.503
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, her titties out, head, covered in a cloak, and she's like, okay, right on that.
02:45:42.804 --> 02:45:44.946
[SPEAKER_01]: And the implication is like, she's gonna fuck him.
02:45:46.095 --> 02:45:48.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the application is like, Damian isn't a good air.
02:45:48.317 --> 02:45:50.259
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get that.
02:45:50.859 --> 02:45:51.159
[SPEAKER_02]: Damn.
02:45:51.199 --> 02:45:53.001
[SPEAKER_01]: Damian, come back to this.
02:45:54.402 --> 02:45:57.545
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we get the flashback back to, this is an issue one.
02:45:57.585 --> 02:45:58.205
[SPEAKER_02]: This happens, right?
02:45:58.225 --> 02:45:59.346
[SPEAKER_02]: Though this is not happening.
02:45:59.366 --> 02:45:59.447
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:45:59.747 --> 02:46:03.130
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they don't reveal how he's so confident.
02:46:03.510 --> 02:46:03.730
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:46:04.111 --> 02:46:07.353
[SPEAKER_01]: And for us being alive that you just know something happened in Wayne Manorini.
02:46:07.393 --> 02:46:08.194
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something upstairs.
02:46:08.254 --> 02:46:09.055
[SPEAKER_01]: And he needs to show people.
02:46:09.075 --> 02:46:10.316
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't know what it is until now.
02:46:11.190 --> 02:46:15.174
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he threw a tantrum after Damien was a piece of shit to him and kicked him out of the cave.
02:46:15.294 --> 02:46:15.494
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:46:15.795 --> 02:46:16.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, he threw a bunch of shit.
02:46:17.036 --> 02:46:27.686
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, Tim is sitting on the floor and he's looking at this portrait of Bruce's ancestor, Mordecai Wayne, and goes, holy shit that's Bruce.
02:46:28.933 --> 02:46:30.574
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just looks at his like, he's alive.
02:46:30.975 --> 02:46:36.018
[SPEAKER_01]: And then next Red Robin second year begins with the hit list, which we will not be covering.
02:46:36.159 --> 02:46:37.580
[SPEAKER_02]: No, this is the end of what we're covering.
02:46:37.600 --> 02:46:40.662
[SPEAKER_02]: There's also Wayne and sister named Darious, which is crazy.
02:46:40.822 --> 02:46:44.645
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a white Darious is.
02:46:44.985 --> 02:46:45.346
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
02:46:45.366 --> 02:46:46.807
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like with a white Jerome.
02:46:49.629 --> 02:46:53.792
[SPEAKER_01]: There's also a Joshua and a I can't see the last one.
02:46:56.028 --> 02:46:58.389
[SPEAKER_01]: Darius looks like he fought in the revolutionary work.
02:46:58.549 --> 02:46:58.769
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:46:59.209 --> 02:47:00.189
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got one of those hats.
02:47:00.449 --> 02:47:01.030
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like it.
02:47:02.230 --> 02:47:04.010
[SPEAKER_02]: So Mourka is like some manner of pilgrim.
02:47:04.271 --> 02:47:05.631
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Bruce as Mourka.
02:47:05.651 --> 02:47:08.512
[SPEAKER_02]: But he looks also like some manner of warlock.
02:47:11.333 --> 02:47:12.513
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, the crucible.
02:47:12.713 --> 02:47:12.933
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
02:47:14.834 --> 02:47:17.315
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, I saw a gritty guy saw a goody proctor with the devil.
02:47:18.895 --> 02:47:21.676
[SPEAKER_01]: Why could you see goody proctor at the devil's sacrament, bitch?
02:47:22.056 --> 02:47:22.916
[SPEAKER_01]: Why were you?
02:47:23.196 --> 02:47:24.617
[SPEAKER_02]: Why were you at the devil's sacrament?
02:47:27.767 --> 02:47:29.948
[SPEAKER_02]: Why were you on everyone hates me island?
02:47:34.610 --> 02:47:37.991
[SPEAKER_02]: But this has been collision is the name of this story.
02:47:39.691 --> 02:47:51.796
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see you talk about our guy because it's his birthday and this is happy birthday Tim happy birthday Tim today happy seventy birthday again
02:47:52.964 --> 02:47:54.225
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus Christ, he's older than that.
02:47:54.245 --> 02:47:55.466
[SPEAKER_02]: No, Tim's got to be twenty one now.
02:47:55.807 --> 02:47:57.408
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, because Damien is, here's the thing.
02:47:57.428 --> 02:47:58.789
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I use it in sevens.
02:47:59.170 --> 02:48:00.251
[SPEAKER_02]: Damien is fourteen.
02:48:00.291 --> 02:48:00.871
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim is twenty one.
02:48:02.072 --> 02:48:02.713
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm cool with that.
02:48:03.394 --> 02:48:04.094
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm cool with that.
02:48:04.795 --> 02:48:07.738
[SPEAKER_01]: They need to show Tim drinking on panel and then we've confirmed it.
02:48:07.858 --> 02:48:18.027
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, uh, like I think of Tim as like twenty one Stephanie as like twenty two Cassandra and Jason twenty four ish.
02:48:19.440 --> 02:48:23.543
[SPEAKER_02]: Dick about twenty eight twenty nine Barbara thirty.
02:48:26.405 --> 02:48:26.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool with that.
02:48:26.906 --> 02:48:30.849
[SPEAKER_01]: So I always want people to be like I'm turning thirty very soon.
02:48:30.869 --> 02:48:34.772
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm turning thirty in a couple of months and I am very much like I'm cool with people being thirty.
02:48:34.912 --> 02:48:37.334
[SPEAKER_01]: I need some of these people to be thirty.
02:48:37.654 --> 02:48:44.059
[SPEAKER_01]: But also I get that you can't from like a physical perspective.
02:48:44.539 --> 02:48:47.781
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have people being like sixty and ripped in that way.
02:48:50.031 --> 02:48:50.371
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wow.
02:48:50.391 --> 02:48:50.491
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
02:48:50.511 --> 02:48:50.672
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
02:48:50.692 --> 02:48:51.332
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a million.
02:48:53.233 --> 02:48:54.234
[SPEAKER_01]: But he also says, Lazarus pets.
02:48:56.256 --> 02:48:59.878
[SPEAKER_02]: Race is waking up every day and hitting the weights, which is nuts.
02:49:00.819 --> 02:49:01.139
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's.
02:49:01.339 --> 02:49:04.482
[SPEAKER_02]: What does the weight look like in the cradle?
02:49:05.995 --> 02:49:13.280
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think he's doing more of like an uncle, I wrote a situation where he's just doing a lot of push-ups and pull-ups and like very Spartan in a cave.
02:49:13.320 --> 02:49:14.801
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's like machines.
02:49:14.841 --> 02:49:15.841
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a weight room.
02:49:15.901 --> 02:49:17.903
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's, I think he's just doing that shit.
02:49:17.923 --> 02:49:20.024
[SPEAKER_01]: Bratial rule, not doing preachers or something.
02:49:20.044 --> 02:49:21.165
[SPEAKER_01]: We clap in between.
02:49:21.725 --> 02:49:25.167
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like launch in the clap and then go back down and I think he's doing that shit.
02:49:25.227 --> 02:49:27.328
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's just fighting ninjas all day.
02:49:28.089 --> 02:49:28.809
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that too.
02:49:29.310 --> 02:49:29.750
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously.
02:49:29.770 --> 02:49:30.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
02:49:30.410 --> 02:49:31.331
[SPEAKER_01]: He kills the ninjas.
02:49:31.371 --> 02:49:34.273
[SPEAKER_01]: That means that they were not a worthwhile ninja to have around.
02:49:34.353 --> 02:49:34.453
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
02:49:35.844 --> 02:49:57.502
[SPEAKER_01]: your first test or your last test before you are a full-flediment pledged member of the last sixty-second survival counter comes up in the in the corner survive I love it when that happens in video games by the way whenever you're at a level where usually there's like once you kill the last enemy you move on and something I love it instead they just put a timer and they're like survive until extraction and you're just like
02:49:58.633 --> 02:50:05.798
[SPEAKER_02]: The best version of that will always be Jedi fallen order what you fight Darth Vader.
02:50:05.818 --> 02:50:08.099
[SPEAKER_02]: It is just like run away.
02:50:09.220 --> 02:50:12.843
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's not the one where he either doesn't get a health bar, the health bar goes all the way.
02:50:13.463 --> 02:50:14.824
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he doesn't have health bar.
02:50:15.064 --> 02:50:17.686
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he doesn't have health and you try to fight him.
02:50:17.826 --> 02:50:19.287
[SPEAKER_01]: The game has a health bar and kill that one.
02:50:19.692 --> 02:50:22.855
[SPEAKER_02]: you try to fight him and he doesn't work and it's just run.
02:50:23.776 --> 02:50:24.016
[SPEAKER_01]: Run.
02:50:24.076 --> 02:50:25.697
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:50:25.918 --> 02:50:29.020
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a wonderful finale to that game and it's also a really good vibe too.
02:50:29.281 --> 02:50:29.961
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not running.
02:50:29.981 --> 02:50:30.982
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so fucking scary.
02:50:31.182 --> 02:50:38.489
[SPEAKER_01]: He's walking and he's just very lonely walking after you and you're sprinting because you're a child because you're Calcastist.
02:50:38.729 --> 02:50:39.550
[SPEAKER_01]: I fucking love those.
02:50:39.710 --> 02:50:41.752
[SPEAKER_01]: I love those games and obsessed with
02:50:42.791 --> 02:50:43.891
[SPEAKER_02]: I might replay them, actually.
02:50:44.291 --> 02:50:48.412
[SPEAKER_02]: Anywho, thank all of you for joining us on this ride.
02:50:48.452 --> 02:50:49.593
[SPEAKER_02]: We got it under three hours.
02:50:49.653 --> 02:50:50.053
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take it.
02:50:51.593 --> 02:50:52.413
[SPEAKER_02]: Two hours fifty.
02:50:53.534 --> 02:50:54.174
[SPEAKER_02]: A real one.
02:50:55.814 --> 02:50:59.415
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can follow me on blue sky at bulk hussler.
02:51:00.456 --> 02:51:01.596
[SPEAKER_02]: The beast guy, soldier, whatever.
02:51:01.616 --> 02:51:03.236
[SPEAKER_02]: You can follow that Jesse.
02:51:03.476 --> 02:51:05.577
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'll Jesse add on most things at Zahili.
02:51:06.495 --> 02:51:09.739
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yes, uh, but blue sky because I've abandoned Twitter.
02:51:09.999 --> 02:51:11.321
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I deleted my Twitter.
02:51:11.461 --> 02:51:16.687
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not I downloaded my archive and was like, I'm done with this.
02:51:16.707 --> 02:51:17.788
[SPEAKER_01]: I also downloaded my archive.
02:51:18.128 --> 02:51:18.529
[SPEAKER_01]: I stopped.
02:51:18.609 --> 02:51:19.770
[SPEAKER_01]: I deleted it off my phone.
02:51:19.790 --> 02:51:20.391
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not looking at it.
02:51:20.431 --> 02:51:21.612
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also on Tumblr now.
02:51:21.693 --> 02:51:24.175
[SPEAKER_01]: I went back to Tumblr and I like it over there.
02:51:24.396 --> 02:51:25.317
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it's fun.
02:51:26.457 --> 02:51:27.137
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm a blue sky.
02:51:27.337 --> 02:51:28.297
[SPEAKER_02]: Just doing bits over there.
02:51:30.698 --> 02:51:32.018
[SPEAKER_02]: When will the next episode come out?
02:51:33.039 --> 02:51:35.359
[SPEAKER_02]: Your guess is as good as mine, friends and neighbors.
02:51:35.959 --> 02:51:36.760
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't fucking know.
02:51:37.740 --> 02:51:40.041
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna lie to you and say that I do.
02:51:40.621 --> 02:51:43.101
[SPEAKER_02]: But until next time, take care.
02:51:43.461 --> 02:51:47.523
[SPEAKER_02]: Stay safe and we'll catch you in the next episode.
02:51:49.003 --> 02:51:49.203
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.