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Mental compulsions can be invisible, exhausting, and easy to miss- even for clinicians. In this episode, Jess and Laura sit down with Jess Marriner (creator of Breaking the Loop) to unpack what mental compulsions and rumination actually look like, how they differ from ordinary thinking, and why "just doing the exposure" doesn't always shift underlying beliefs.
They cover Pure O, whether OCD can exist without the "O," how to spot invisible compulsions in the therapy room, and what ERP and CBT look like when the compulsions are all happening inside someone's head.
Plus: attention training, planned vs unplanned exposure, stress management and OCD, and a Jess M discount code you won't want to miss.
Perfect for anyone with OCD, clinicians working with OCD clients, or anyone who's ever wondered "is this rumination or just... thinking?”
Podcast by:
Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist
and
Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist
Featuring Jess Marriner, BABCP Accred OCD and anxiety specialist therapist
Follow Jess Marriner at @jessmarrinertherapy and access her Break the Loop at: Break The Loop
Use the discount code: justchecking20 at checkout for 20% discount
Time Stamps:
00:38 Episode overview
01:50 Introductions and catch up
06:50 Brain Spam
10:20 Overview of Jess M and Break the Loop
15:40 What do mental compulsions look like?
18:42 What rumination looks like
21:00 Thoughts vs thinking
25:50 Why doing the thing doesn't change beliefs sometimes
28:40 How can clinicians ask about mental compulsions
31:10 What is pure O?
32:40 Can we have OCD without the 'O'?
36:40 Jess H book sidebar
41:05 How does ERP or CBT look for invisible compulsions?
45:00 Attention training first
46:30 Unplanned and deliberate ERP
53:00 Stress management and OCD
57:35 The OCD game
58:00 Jess M discount code
1:00:00 Weekly Win
1:01:04 Exposure Lab
1:05:20 Goodbyes
Get in Touch:
Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us:
Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com
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Content Warnings:
We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.
Disclaimer:
This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.
